fierce kayak
@neon mural we don't have to rush to ascend in this game vs other game. Unless you hit level cap and need to ascend someone to pass the stages.
If cant wait.. Hogan is fine. You will get more of his copies later and ascend him to L+. Then feed him to other Lights later.
neon mural
I guess I'll wait for now then, I'm kinda used to other games which you should always ascend asap. Also it's the first time I can reset heroes, which is a great feature tbh. Thanks for all advices, I'll take note on those!
stone geode
any advice for 11-12? 
twin crypt
Anyone got any pointers on how to beat this Boss Athalia? So many painful heroes here on 23-24 😔
outer tinsel
I shouldnt ascend shemira probably right. Should save these heroes. :/ stuck on 12-4 but idk if grezhul or thoran are worth saving, or isabella
fierce kayak
@stone geode first off, you focus you ascension on mostly wrong heroes. Fodders wasted. You should seek advise or read up before ascending. The right ones only Sav and Belinda.
From now on only level Sav till he 160.
Try:
Sav
Hendrick
Fawkes/belinda
Estilda
Belinda/fawkes
Belinda always behind Estilda.
@outer tinsel your Shem is 160 or? Some ppl use thogan Isabelle as fodders.... but I advise not.
What other heroes you using?
flint fable
Can someone give me an idea on what hero’s to use I been winging it so far bout now I’m kinda stuck. Still fairly new to the game
fierce kayak
Basic game tips:
Early game is all about focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Shemira replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.
Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest... then level tank next, last 3 supports last.
Spend diamonds on scrolls and 5 elite shards.
Lab heroes really only Shemira and Nemora is crucial. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. So in my opinion, you can get one nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again.
Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder 4 skills hero.
Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.
Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list
@flint fable
outer tinsel
@fierce kayak
fierce kayak
@flint fable
thane more of late game hero
Estlida situational and mainly in light team. Cos she is a dps/support tank which can't really tank.
Eziz is alright it hard to ascend as f2p
Thogan is a love/hate hero.. but mostly for late game.
Wareak for late game.
Gorvork I not sure.. seems ok.
Savaes as explained above.
stone geode
@fierce kayak at the time i ascended them it was my only option cuz i had no1 else to get them past lvl cap in resonating crystal :1
flint fable
Kk ty
tacit cave
Anyone got advice on how i can beat this one?
steep cape
@tacit cave who else you have
stone geode
assuming u were referring to eironn and baden, estrilda and hendrick are the only tanks i have that i found worth using from who i've pulled so far 🤷
fierce kayak
@outer tinsel you seems to have a tank issue. Mythic Shemira can last you quite long at least chap 16 so don't have to rush to ascend her to M+. Just level continue focus level her to 180.
tacit cave
@steep cape
outer tinsel
Yeah i figured. Guess ill just jeep leveling fodder then and level her
Ty for the help
fierce kayak
Welcome. Hope it works for u. Have fun
frank scarab
holy shit i literally JUST got mythic belinda just now and my biggest problem now is i dont know if i should be focusing on saveas, shemira or belinda 
im thinking about resetting shemira and just making her 120 instead, pouring the exp into belinda/sav instead, but im not sure if thats a good idea or not
also if i do, do i put it in saveas or belinda?
twin crypt
@frank scarab Shem will start carrying you at 161
thorny gyro
Struggling on 10-4, I can get it down to Saveas vs Saveas, but enemy Sav wins each time. Any tweaks I could make to top favour?
neon mural
is it easier to get hero essences later on? cause if not, it should take a long time to upgrade higher lvl heroes
thorny gyro
@neon mural it doesn't get easier, and dust is actually the harder thing to aquire, hoard as much of it as you can.
neon mural
damn
fluid oasis
Lmao I can’t upload screenshots because it’s bigger then 8mb
neon mural
I was looking some random guides on reddit, just found out it costs 12k dust to 160>161 a hero
rancid bison
need help on this stage!
sour fjord
I am stuck at 8-24 and Floor 100 i can’t nearly pass them any tips ??
thorny gyro
@sour fjord max out and cap your saveas first, then slowly raise your tank, then the rest of your party and see if that pushes you past
thorny gyro
with what you have, and that level? I'd say Hogan. Ogi is going to get eaten by the maulers
dark tundra
@rancid bison buy dust and make your heroes to 101
thorny gyro
or Estrilda, since she is legendary, but she is more of a off tank.
rancid bison
@dark tundra in what order do you think?
dark tundra
@rancid bison your carry first then tank . Might be mirael or Belinda then lucius. About leveling the heroes might u want to try the 20/40gap rule. 120 to your main dps/carry and 80+ the rest. But it's up to u if u want to try it. It's quite effective to beat stage if u overlevel your carry
rancid bison
mhm aite then
quiet spire
What do you mean with carry? I’ve been playing for a bit but now I’m starting to really push my game up.
gilded fractal
any help? ferael and silvina are very threatening haha
o wait jk lmfao just beat it
hasty night
Any help on 11-36?
faint quest
Haven't gotten to that level yet but maybe try charming ferael to get his terrify on his own allies, id use
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi/arden(more preferably arden whichever works better)
@gilded fractal
Try baiting silv with tasi and keep retrying until nem charms ferael and hopefully rng will be on ur side 👌
grizzled solar
gilded fractal
@faint quest i did that exact lineup and beat it before you sent the message hehe but thank you : D great minds think alike
faint quest
Oh wow well now I know how to beat that stage xD what's the exact stage#? @gilded fractal
thorny gyro
Trying again, any tweaks I could do here? I get down to Sav vs Sav, but enemy Sav beats me each time
lean flower
16-40 what do I do
grizzled solar
Most pointless channel
faint quest
I'd use
Saveas
Lucius
Tasi
Hogan
Belinda
@thorny gyro
gilded fractal
@grizzled solar hmm. i am trying to come up with a good team that maintains faction bonus but i cant seem to come up with anything. perhaps try
arden
brutus
belinda
tasi (or silvina)
estrilda
if tasi can survive to tp away. if she can, then try out runs where she tps to a ally. if not, silvina is useful as a distractor for a while.
thorny gyro
@faint quest thanks will give that a go
grizzled solar
Oh I wasn't complaining about me not getting an answer was looking up
gilded fractal
@faint quest 17-24 !!
@grizzled solar haha i was just trying to help, dw about it. sorry if u dont succeed still tho x(
faint quest
Belinda to cast that area damage on ankhira and the hypogean guy tasi to vanish sav and hogan for that cc to kill ankhira asap for her cocoon ability to not get off gl! :) @thorny gyro
dark tundra
Then be nice. We r not paid to answer questions here we r helping so be patient
faint quest
Ty alice
hidden mirage
Any help? 8-4
grizzled solar
Thanks
frigid dagger
Suggestions? Full wilders team are always a painnn in my azz
gilded fractal
@grizzled solar lemme know how things go!!
upper wraith
@grizzled solar thing is that u didnt even ask a question
u just posted two pictures saying this is a pointless channel
faint quest
Haven't got there yet but I'm thinking
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
Arden @lean flower
grizzled solar
@gilded fractal your amazing
lean flower
Aight I'll try it
faint quest
gl should take some retries but you'll get there
gilded fractal
@grizzled solar it worked? : D
grizzled solar
Silv didn't work then tried tasi and she kept tping and got a ult off easy
gilded fractal
yay!!! its good to experiment
hasty night
Can anyone help me?
grizzled solar
Ty
lean flower
Shem gets absolutely melted by the kaz
faint quest
Arden has to at least root kaz and arden for shem to survive
pale kettle
@faint quest help me pls
lean flower
Yeah
pale kettle
faint quest
Maybe use
Fawkes
Lucius
Silvina
Brutus
Belinda @pale kettleive only beaten that stage with 141+ shem so idk if it'll work >. <
hasty night
Guess I'll post again, I got buried
faint quest
Try switching arden and tasis placement
pale kettle
@faint quest my problem is is that fawkes get killed
faint quest
Before he gets his coffin off?
lean flower
It worked @faint quest thankyou
faint quest
The only best thing is switching fawkes to a safer position where he doesnt get rushed and Ko'd by estrilda @pale kettle
hasty night
Nope with my old comp if I get good crits I can usually get estrilda and either Angelo or morvus remaining. Switching has 4 enemies alive
faint quest
Np glad to help dude @lean flower
pale kettle
@faint quest I know what happining my brutus is getting stunned and doesn't use his invincibility for some reason
dark tundra
@hasty night why don't u try charm their saveas
faint quest
Yep hogan is just extremely annoying when he goes against him:/
hasty night
Ok, so who to kick for nemora
dark tundra
Arden. He's not good if he's not 141
faint quest
Prob arden since he only root 2
hasty night
Strange...she does her heart animation but no one gets charmed
frank scarab
Who do i focus on/how should i redistribute my exp? Focus on sav? belinda? reset shemira or keep her as is?
proven gyro
@frank scarab I have my favourite, in my case nemora a bit higher, but my other 4 levelers distributed evenly.
I do that because I constantly change my comp to make use of faction advantage.
scarlet trail
Hello - could someone help me avoid noob mistakes? What should I do next?
frank scarab
@proven gyro wdym
cursive summit
Any help for a good team setup for Secrets of the forest with this? I can reset anything
proven gyro
@frank scarab
Keep the hero you use in most comps a bit higher, but try and keep the other 4 about the same because your crystal heroes base off our 5th lowest lvl.
cursive summit
I'm also stuck on 8-32
dark tundra
I think u will be able to beat secret forest if your heroes range 140+ something
So don't sweat too much
frank scarab
I know, but im also asking which carry i should main and invest in the most...
belinda and saveas are both god and shemira is also good and a late investment
proven gyro
bel, I'd say saveas but hes pretty much at his limit.
cursive summit
My power using Silv, namora, tasi, ulmus and ogi is 130,000
And almost cleared secrets, but I'm still fairly new
dark tundra
@frank scarab your carry will be either saveas(need Brutus for this) or Belinda(full packs of lb) but soon it will be good if u change to shem
cursive summit
?
proven gyro
@cursive summit try nemora, ulmus, tasi, saveas, and ankhira
dark tundra
@cursive summit I mean to get the artifact in there . Try to go #545929173471068170 the type .potguide for further infos how to beat secretforest
proven gyro
Id reccomend bel but 8-32 is full of graveborn.
cursive summit
I tried bel, Lucian, namora, Hendrix, Raine for 8-32 and got destroyed
proven gyro
that's because graveborn have faction advantage against lightbearers.
cursive summit
Oops I am tired af, my issue was all my tank are lightbearer
proven gyro
I should note with the comp i reccomended that sav was taking the role of a tank.
only because of the 3-2 bonus.
hidden mirage
Can anyone help me clear this?
cursive summit
Yes alternatively I tried safiya, ulmus, namora, Sav, ogi for fail on 8-32 also
proven gyro
Avoid using the lightbearer tanks.
What other tanks do you have @hidden mirage
I've never had good experiences with ogi @cursive summit , but thats just me.
hidden mirage
@proven gyro golus warek vedan skreg
cursive summit
What might replace him in my roster successfully as a tank or protecter for namora and tasi using sav as well. I like those 3 together
proven gyro
try warek and skreg @hidden mirage that way you get the faction bonus for 3-2 and dont have a faction disadvantage.
cursive summit
Silv has been doing me well, but I'm lacking in good graveborns
pale kettle
@hidden mirage if you use tasi she has to be a high level or she won’t to very well, if you have mahira,kaz, Isabella,
They’ll do well if u have those on those people
proven gyro
The ideal for the trio you mentioned @cursive summit is probably ulmus.
cursive summit
Tasi, ulmus, namora, Sav, and Silv perhaps?
pale kettle
Yeah they have to be high level though
cursive summit
I can get them all evenly to 105s :/
pale kettle
Tbh if it was campaign I’d use all my ascended
cursive summit
I appreciate the help all :) thanks
pale kettle
Cause ascended always does the most if you choose the right people
proven gyro
@hidden mirage Since you have a number of lightbearers I will note that at 121 Angelo becomes pretty decent in lighbearer comps.
due to the added benefit to his ult.
clear saddle
Bruh
hidden mirage
@proven gyro ic, was planning to use angelo as fodder to ascend thane or belinda
proven gyro
its like 5-10 secs of reduced enemy attacks, can be really helpful, paired with lucius its works pretty well for sustain.
lapis sand
proven gyro
swap ur wilders for bel, hogan, and athalia @lapis sand
lapis sand
@proven gyro why do my belinda and athalia feel so weak?
Like they do no damage
Only my saveos and brutus do damage
dark tundra
Cos u put all your power to sav
proven gyro
Have you optimized their armor? not all peices work wit all heros, ex nemoras ult is based off her max hp so she doesnt really need a good wand or hat.
that too, I recommend keeping ur main only about 10 lvls above the rest.,
hidden mirage
Didnt work niru is too OP
proven gyro
Did you try shifting them around?
I cant count the number of times simply switching my tanks has won me a battle.
If that doesn't do it sometimes you need to just AFK for a bit. take the opportunity to focus on tower or lab.
pale kettle
Or, you could wait till you get 2 more shem and then get M shem
desert basin
I personally like M Shem option better ^^^
She is a fantastic late game hero in my opinion
shrewd hull
Sure, i can stave off using L+ vedan to wait for M shem. But should i use E+ vedan and E+ silvina to make L+ grez/thoran then?
pale kettle
Do u use grezhul and thoran? They are good late game but you could save the fodder for shem again if you need. To get from M to M+ shem needs another L+. I probably should have saved some fodder for her
desert basin
I think a good way of thinking is to look at your current lineup and what it may need. All of these ones have specific abilities that could benefit you in many different ways (tank/support/backliner).
shrewd hull
Tbf, by the time i get a M Shem, I'll probably have another L+ fodder anyway given how common easy it is to get niru, vedan, and silvina. I do use both grez and thoran, I use grez a bit more. I prefer having good stregth heroes in each faction to tank if i go full-faction team.
fierce kayak
Actually depends.. sometimes we just don't pull that specific faction.
desert basin
True, sometimes you just get too many commons or not even the specific faction you want at all...
fierce kayak
Lol... ya.. sadz.. can't even get rares..
shrewd hull
Sure, but it's going to take me a lot longer to get 2 E Shems than it is to get enough of 1 L+ ved, silv, or niru imo
Unless I'm mega lucky
pale kettle
^ yea u might get lucky. 2 E shem from the laby shop is maybe 2 months of constant labyrinth? (Around 3k per laby run)
fierce kayak
Up to you bud. For me.. it like takes forever to get even a E+ GB fodder...
L+ Grezhul and L+ Thogan doesn't brings much to the table too unless really lack of tank.
shrewd hull
Aye, I got 28K laby coins atm. I'll be able to buy the first E shem possibly sometime in the next 2 weeks. My graveborn team does need another decent tank.
desert basin
That's why I mentioned if the lineup needed something specific such as a tank or damage output 😃
fierce kayak
I L+ Grezhul when my Shem is M. Grezhul is doing ok but I regret a little. Now my Shem stuck at M cos no L+ fodder..
@shrewd hull you pure GB team? Gb team don't think is good until late game.
faint quest
Any advice?, those mages are ticking me off
shrewd hull
Nah man, I just have a GB team for when i need it. I have a full team for each faction
Sec lemme screenie my full list
fierce kayak
@faint quest
shrewd hull
Thinking of advancing my Estrilda to mythic as well but not sure if i should use hogan now or wait to make the old bearded dude L+
fierce kayak
@faint quest think we can be buddy and progress together.. lol. That line-up beasts the stage
faint quest
O: Lmao sure ig 16-20 is our big wall for now though 
fierce kayak
Beats
faint quest
Thx man will try👌
fierce kayak
I am not really pusing now.. if u get stuck again we can try together..
faint quest
Got past it thx
fierce kayak
Erm.. that's fast. I have to try a few times then past
faint quest
Yea def, we'll help each other out along the way
Wanna add each other on the game? @fierce kayak,I got a slot open if u want
lean trench
8-32 some help would be good thanks
sly sparrow
@faint quest @fierce kayak wow im proud of you guys ♥ 😄
sly sparrow
could i add you too guys? D:
fierce kayak
But my list is sort of quite full right now. Maybe later ;)
sly sparrow
D:
faint quest
If you're active and send hearts everyday then sure :) @sly sparrow
sly sparrow
omg i legit do all the time
faint quest
Alright cool will pm u
hearty current
stuck here for a while.. any advice?
faint quest
I don't exactly remember but it was either
Arden
Shemira on top or
Shemira
Arden on bottom with tasi middle and lyca being opposite of arden and brutus being opposite of shemira @hearty current
muted stream
Any suggestions?
faint quest
Do u have lyca? @edgy surge
edgy surge
Yes I do only Elite
I saw a saveas lyca lineup for this stage but my saveas is underleveled since I went for shemira carry
faint quest
Alright I'd try using
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden @edgy surge
leaden pelican
@muted stream hi , do u remember what formation u used for 20-26?
muted stream
Send me the stage pic pls @leaden pelican
zinc wren
Any advice on this one?
restive yoke
Still stuck on this stage...I have one open slot in my Resonating Crystal. Would any of my heroes help?
restive yoke
@faint quest Got any advice for me?
edgy surge
@faint quest did it on first try omg ty so much
leaden pelican
@muted stream
muted stream
@restive yoke you dont have a proper frontline, work on strength heros
faint quest
Try using
Belinda
Hogan
Saveas
Lucius
Lyca
Im not used to not working a shemira in a team so prob expect failure but worth a shot @restive yoke
woeful timber
I juat got tasi and i know she is very good , what should i do? Put her in the resonating crystal or to use her and replace insted of someone in my current team?
muted stream
Im not sure but try
Tasi
Shem
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
@leaden pelican
leaden pelican
ok, thank you
muted stream
I think i got 215 shem at that point tho
leaden pelican
my shemila cant survive either top or btm
guess i need to afk for couple of days more
muted stream
Silv jumps at arden right?
leaden pelican
ya, 1 hit
muted stream
Blade on shem call on tasi?
leaden pelican
ok
old isle
Hey guys, any suggestions on what direction I should take the team on? This the trash boi’s currently
pale kettle
@old isle invest literally everything you have into saveas. Overlevel him because he’s a great carry and is op
manic kayak
ivory swan
Any suggestions?
pale kettle
@old isle Lyca and Arden are always solid choices. Maybe add 2 people to complete faction bonus, or a tank if saveas is too squishy for you now.
^ You can put saveas on the frontline because he heals so much
manic kayak
@ivory swan have you tried using athalia? Or saifya she reduces backline damage for brief seconds
sly sparrow
i feel like safiya is weak tho
old isle
Thanks!
ivory swan
@manic kayak I can try, lineup position?
manic kayak
@ivory swan yeah change up with lyca arden or athalia. You need some cc against Shem and silvina
woeful timber
No one answered my last quiestion ill try again , this is my lineup is it good? I got tasi and she is very good so i should replace her with someone?🤔
sly sparrow
Need help too... been stuck here for a while, Brutus-Vedan-Niru combo is nuts :/
manic kayak
@woeful timber you can go with lyca and tasi
@sly sparrow change lvls with brutus and mirael
sly sparrow
tbh mirael is the one dealing most dmg in this combat
manic kayak
Cause she’s the highest lvl atm as well gears
woeful timber
I played with lyca she died to quickly and did barely dmg like i want tasi but i dont who to replace with cuz they are all good , or maybe put sgemira at front line insted of thane or hendrik?
manic kayak
@woeful timber Shem doesn’t have that skill yet to self heal rapidly to be a tank. Try out the one you have or add in lyca instead of Shem to help out with thanes barrage
woeful timber
Hmm ok thx
manic kayak
@woeful timber Nvm keep Shem but she must have high gears for her ult to go off
sly sparrow
Ye Shem pre-161 isnt really tanky but after it she is nuts
woeful timber
Yea im always trying to enchance her gear firsr
pale kettle
Help please
lament kernel
Advice on this? Cant win at all
humble zenith
any suggestions? 7-36
pale kettle
@tidal moth I recommend getting shem to mythic and use that ogi as fodder somewhere
near crane
Any suggestions to beat? I've tried
manic kayak
@near crane have you tried using lyca arden nemora with brutus and Shem?
near crane
I'll give it a go
mild flare
Anyone?
near crane
Yeah still getting crushed. I'll run bit more
mild flare
+athalia, i just got her.
pale kettle
@mild flare ascend and overlevel that saveas, and use Arden
pale kettle
Then get a 3rd one later and ascend. He should be on your checklist
silver delta
@slender blade place brutus and lucius at front row
near crane
@manic kayak thankyou haha it took 3 combinations of then but it worked!
sly sparrow
congrats! ♥
slender blade
@silver delta thanks, i’ll give that a try (:
manic kayak
@near crane what did you use? Congrats!
silver delta
@slender blade NP
near crane
@manic kayak this combination
manic kayak
Oh yeah just wait for fodders or farm guild points on those character. Even at elite they’re still useful
silver delta
@near crane maybe use tasi?
mild flare
So noone will help me lol
humble zenith
if u think that everyone must help u that's stupid, srry
pale kettle
And I gave you a suggestion already hehe
manic kayak
See with that line up.. you just have to wait for rng
silver delta
@mild flare focus and lev up brutus,lyca,saveas
pale kettle
And arden
silver delta
And arden
mild flare
Is athalia helpful? I just got her
tawny jewel
Any help?
silver delta
She is but better on high lev
mild flare
Ok, nothing i can do now
silver delta
@tawny jewel use lucius,shemira,belinda and maybe mehira @mild flare whys that?
fierce kayak
@mild flare hi bud, we won't know the stage enemies unless you post them. Cos there are like hundreds of stages
silver delta
Agreed
tawny jewel
Lucius dies in like 2 seconds @silver delta
silver delta
Eh then lev up him or better gear @tawny jewel
atomic nymph
mild flare
atomic nymph
Any suggstions for this stage?
fierce kayak
Basic game tips:
Early game is all about focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Shemira replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.
Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest... then level tank next, last 3 supports last.
Spend diamonds on scrolls and 5 elite shards.
Lab heroes really only Shemira and Nemora is crucial. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. So in my opinion, you can get one nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again.
Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder 4 skills hero.
Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.
Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list
silver delta
@atomic nymph dont use baden his abut weak when stilwas ELITE
slender blade
It still doesn’t work with lucius and brutus at the front
silver delta
@slender blade lev up them @fierce kayak thx for explaining 😮
atomic nymph
Yes figured that just tried him because of the faction bonus
mild flare
@silver delta so?
silver delta
@mild flare so?
mild flare
I sent the pic
slender blade
@silver delta brutus is not mine (from the labyrinth) and lucius is in the crystal so i’d have to level five heroes and i don’t have enough hero experience for that
silver delta
@mild flare I already give u some tips didn't i? @slender blade then mostly just get more stuff to level them up don't need to rush
pale kettle
The game is all about waiting
slender blade
Yes, but it’s in the labyrinth 🙈
silver delta
Patience is the key to victory trust me it sounds lame but its the truth
slender blade
Does that mean i just can’t complete it this time?
atomic nymph
silver delta
@slender blade damm son XD and yea pretty much
pale kettle
For the labyrinth, it’s pretty much all about choosing good relics
atomic nymph
Did it and you hav 30 hours time a lot can happen
fierce kayak
@mild flare for now.. you can also place the hero which silv hops onto behind Brutus.. so that Brutus will kill Silv.
silver delta
@atomic nymph yup @pale kettleand heroes but more in relic
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel I can't see your full roster but Sav always behind Brutus for Brutus roar. So Sav should be back bottom. Focus fire on Vedan first and kill him before he ulti.
You can try:
Lucius
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Savaes
slender blade
@silver delta okay then i gotta wait. That sucks cause i’d only need this one battle to have enough coins to buy a hero. Thanks though (:
silver delta
@slender blade np bro anytime
fierce kayak
@slender blade I dunno your roster too but I am sure you can beat it. Use Brutus Lucius savaea Arden and maybe shenira/silv. Drop ferael he is more for late game.
silver delta
@pale kettle buy them
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak thanks for the tips. But idk why i found most success from having lyca and saveas atk the same target. The lineup you recommended is good but my lucius dies 2 quickly and lyca gets legit 2 shot
pale kettle
@tawny jewel try having Lyca frontline to take some hits from Lucius. She doesn’t need to survive to be useful, only her haste
slender blade
@fierce kayak thanks, i’ll try that
silver delta
Hehehe
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel then just use gorvus top lyca back. Whichever tank works better.
Rest the same. Continue only level Sav till he max before moving to others. You guys will realised levelling only carry like Savaes will win he game even if rest of 4 heroes level is not high.
tawny jewel
I think its just not possible at my current level
I dont have dust to get him to 121 : / @fierce kayak
Do i save exp for sav or do i level other characters
pale kettle
Maybe reset other characters to get dust back
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel normally I will suggest reset but maybe you can wait.. think not difficult to wait for dust for your level.
cloud coral
Hey there. Been stuck at 14-38 for the longest time now. Any advice?
pale kettle
Always buy dust from shop @tawny jewel
faint quest
Def gotta get a brutus up and running at least at 141 @cloud coral
cloud coral
Yeah been waiting for him but I never get him 😭😭
faint quest
U can try using that E brutus but idk if he'll deal enough damage to get the bottom half down a bit lol
cloud coral
My brutus is too squishy atm. Dies instantly
exotic zephyr
Help me, I'm stuck at 1-1 and can't pass it
sly sparrow
i have L Brutus
pale kettle
I have no Brutus
silver delta
Mine L+
faint quest
Ez just buy brutus for 100$ @exotic zephyr
exotic zephyr
Okay thanks
pale kettle
silver delta
😂 🤔 
sly sparrow
Should I overlevel Brutus or Saveas
pale kettle
Saveas
faint quest
Np
sly sparrow
u sure saveas
faint quest
Brutus if u got shem tbh, even prior 161 shem is useful ngl
sly sparrow
i do but she is only lvl 103... she isnt really strong at this point
faint quest
Can I see your heroes?
sly sparrow
like reset Kaz and put exp on shem?
faint quest
Hmm nope but as your current lineup since resetting won't make a difference, try to keep using faction scrolls on gb for shem and her only
tawny jewel
@fierce kayak @pale kettle i just reset my characters and leveled them up again.do u think i should keep going with saveas and w8 for exp or get my other characters to 101?
sly sparrow
i dont really have faction scrolls tho :/
faint quest
In the future
sly sparrow
so for now should I overlevel someone or keep it as it is?
faint quest
I'm pretty sure I cleared most of early-game without using saveas once and instead used
Lucius and brutus as frontline with shem, belinda and nemora lol
sly sparrow
oh i got all of those heroes 😄 but idk havent tried that comp
faint quest
Def try it, carries u all the way until chapter 10
sly sparrow
But will it work against this? And should I change Nemora's items with Isabella's when i dont use her at all?
pale kettle
Help please
faint quest
Since u have saveas I'd replace belinda with shemira and keep it like that, maybe replace mirael for nemora for her charm see ehat works
sly sparrow
ok and should i change my Nemora items with Isabella? cuz she has better ones and i dont use isabella much
sly sparrow
oh so should i change mirael and shem items too? cuz mirael has the best ones atm
faint quest
Yea u can try thag
If shem dies use mirael instead bmand switch items back to her but try either shem first
sly sparrow
alright so switch belinda with shem and mirael with nemora?
faint quest
Yep
Nemora
Brutus
Shemira/mirael
Lucius
Saveas
sly sparrow
i hope it will work but i dont have high expectation since Vedan + Brutus + Niru thats pain
faint quest
Yea they're such an annoying trio
sly sparrow
welp i lost pretty quickly
faint quest
Hmm is lucius instant dying?
sly sparrow
ye pretty quickly didnt even get to his ult
faint quest
Dang hmm...
sly sparrow
then brutus died then nemora and then others
faint quest
Try to figure out new formations for the most part im just too tired and not thinking straight xD
If ur still stuck pm me in about 4 hours I'll see what I can do to help unless someone helps u before
sly sparrow
ill try something ty tho ♥
faint quest
gl man! You'll get through it eventually
fierce kayak
@tawny jewel keep going with Sav
bleak nacelle
Should I do this?
sly sparrow
yep
frank scarab
I mean i dont see why not but i usually like waiting for another elite+ of the hero im trying to ascend so i can skip from elite+ straight to leg+
@bleak nacelle Vedan is fodder anyway so i dont see it being too bad but if we're assuming you have other good graveborns you use regularly, wait until you get another elite+ of shemira
Being stuck at Leg and having bad rng not letting you find the heroes you need feels very, very bad
proven mulch
reset all to 141 and lvlup shemira, try shem lyca luc nemora and tazi
pale kettle
Any tips? Or should I just afk more
bleak nacelle
Changed the shem to leg now im trying to figure my lineup up
sly sparrow
congrats
charred eagle
@pale kettle put lycara on mid and remove nemora
fierce kayak
@pale kettle need to see your roster for Others to advise.
umbral badger
Still stuck at 11-32. Enemy Golus takes out my Brutus in under five seconds then walks right through my formation. Not having enough tanks has really hit me hard, and no formation changes let me last more than 40 seconds against that brute.
pale kettle
umbral badger
I think I'm down to AFK (keep xp farming and running the lab) or resetting my heroes to further boost Saveas.
For me 11-32, Tower 141, and Peaks Ancient Ruins are completely impassable.
indigo jolt
Show 11-32, and ancient ruins is which one?
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Will do! Peaks of Time Ancient Ruins.
indigo jolt
Yeah, i meant the map, can't remember which one it is.
umbral badger
proven mulch
160 saveas and u clear this ez, reset someone
indigo jolt
@umbral badger do you have any spots in crystal?
proven mulch
@Fennore S169 (11-32) brutus saveas lyca ardren tazi
umbral badger
@proven mulch OK, I figured I was down to that. Unfortunate since I bet that doesn't help with Legends Challenger, but campaign progress is more important. I have ONE open spot, yes, but nothing higher than E to add. Had been hoping to ladder another to L for the spot but it's available
humble zenith
7-36 help please
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Add Lyca. Next slot add Nemora. Also, you're better off not making to many Heroes L, as you'll run into fodder issues and they'll get stuck if ascended tier heroes waiting for duplicates.
proven mulch
@umbral badger reset estra its bullshit hero> lvl up arden 141, saveas 160
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Good idea. I have been slow making L because I won't burn ascended-capable heroes for that exact reason.
@proven mulch Estrilda down to 121, boost Saveas, then Arden?
indigo jolt
Arden to 141, rest on Sav. Personally.
sage anvil
Hi everyone
proven mulch
y line up => saveas (u lvlup him 1st to 160) brutus, adren (141 need), lyca, tazi(nemora)
humble zenith
guuys
sage anvil
Can someone tell me if my team is good ?
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Ah, Ok. So he becomes more root worthy and less squishy at 141? Cool.
indigo jolt
he gets 3 roots at 141, so losing 2/3 levels on sav is worth it in my opinion.
umbral badger
I'll add Lyca to the crystal and swap in some decent gear.
proven mulch
@umbral badger lyca only for buff> so if she died fast its ok
fierce kayak
Basic game tips:
Early game is all about focusing on Carry hero like Savaes to L+ 160, Shemira replace him when she is M 161. Build Arden to L+ 141 too and can be use till around chap 22.
Overlevel carry hero at least 20 to 40 level from the rest... then level tank next, last 3 supports last.
Spend diamonds on scrolls and 5 elite shards.
Lab heroes really only Shemira and Nemora is crucial. 1st month of play should be able to buy 2 heroes. So in my opinion, you can get one nemora and Shemira each on 1st month. Then buy Shemira all the way till she L+, then buy nemora till she L+, then buy Shemira again.
Try to only enhance Mythic gear.
Try to buy daily dust from store.
Try not to fodder 4 skills hero.
Generally try to ascend straight to E+/L+. Focus on one hero per faction (except wilders) to ascend cos you will need lots of fodders from L+ to M/M+, etc. Do plan before ascend.
Meta team: Wilders CC back, Shemira Brutus
Do read up to Glourious Tier list
@sage anvil
sage anvil
Omg the ignorance
umbral badger
@proven mulch Thanks for the explanation. I was worried a regular E would go splat pretty quick.
sage anvil
I retire that
fierce kayak
@sage anvil I think your starting roster is great. Focus on Savaes first. Try to ascend straight to L+ or seek advise before ascending above E+. I think you will have fun with these heroes.
indigo jolt
@humble zenith
Try running this, will work well if Tasi survives to tp away then ult.
Shemira/Lyca
Tasi
Arden
Brutus
Sav
fierce kayak
@sage anvil retire?
sage anvil
Withdraw* I’m french lol sorry for the bad English, cuz I thought I got ignored
olive thorn
Baby shark tudulududu
fierce kayak
I still don't get what you mean buddy.. 😂
sage anvil
But the thing is like you told me apparently my heroes are not that bad and I have rare+/epic gear and I can’t get past chap 6
indigo jolt
@sage anvil How long you been playing?
sage anvil
Forget it lol
olive thorn
Ui il faut que tu focus ton saveas early c'est un très bon solo carry
sage anvil
A week maybe , haven’t bought any packs tho @indigo jolt
fierce kayak
@sage anvil it's normal to hit wall for this game. It's afk game afterall.
@olive thorn wow... 
indigo jolt
^ Yeah, progression will always slow down at points while you wait for afk loot and experience.
sage anvil
Fuck this 30second timeout lol it’s annoying
lament kernel
Need help with this
sage anvil
Lol
olive thorn
dark tundra
Heyo help ya peeps
sly sparrow
omg i just realized if you complete chapter 8 you get 10 scrolls
proven mulch
@dark tundra if u have arden try swap with tazi
dark tundra
@sly sparrow nice ready for green now 
@proven mulch will try it ty
umbral badger
sly sparrow
@dark tundra xDDDD true tho i barely get purple and when i do its frickin Seirus that is useless af
umbral badger
I almost have Saveas to 160. Maybe if I reset Fawkes or Belinda
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Just try the stage as you are?
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Sure! Doesn't cost anything.
lament kernel
Can anyone help me?
proven mulch
@lament kernel use saveas , shema usefull only after 161
indigo jolt
@lament kernel Do you have any open crystal spots?
lament kernel
Yeah I do @indigo jolt @proven mulch my tank dies before saveas can do dmg
sly sparrow
omg i finally passes 8-28
indigo jolt
Serius isn't the best tank early, and hes also vs an all mauler team, so no wonder.
dark tundra
@lament kernel it's maulers try full set of lightbearers and pray for Belinda kill those mofo
Use estrilda
lament kernel
I tried a full set of lightbearers but they die faster than my current set
sly sparrow
i figured nara is such a huge counter to vedan im happy
umbral badger
I did better but still murdered. Reset to 121 Belinda or Fawkes? I am guessing,Fawkes since he does little damage (debuffs and coffin are good)
dark tundra
@sly sparrow Nara is good to silvina too u know
indigo jolt
Maybe try
Nemora (to charm sav)
Estrilda
Tasi
Hogan
Belinda
sly sparrow
@dark tundra ye but to vedan too. she made him so he didnt attack my frontline and they could attack other threats and lucius could finally activate his ulti
dark tundra
Nemora can't charm she's low level
dark tundra
My bad thats r wrong reply
umbral badger
@indigo jolt My Nem is L1 and no crystal spots but will try moving Lyca to back center
indigo jolt
Tasi instead of Nemora then.
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Will try 🙃
dark tundra
Wanna see the stage too want too help
indigo jolt
@dark tundra Save you scrolling https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/599551324694118410/Screenshot_20190713-064225_AFK_Arena.jpg
umbral badger
@indigo jolt
Bolus (my nickname for him) made Tasi cry with one hit. I think he is on roids.
indigo jolt
Tasi doesnt tp away in time in a few tries?
sly sparrow
Could this work?
fresh spade
I won't use nara imo
sly sparrow
she turned out to be really strong tho... she hooked vedan so he couldnt attack lucius and his shield is really precious... and i heard she counters silvina too
indigo jolt
If your top half can win, but i think silviana will jsut block most of nara's damage then ult away after a while.
dark tundra
full set of maulers including safiya so your back can't kill easily when estrilda strike might do the trick plus Arden too on your pic @indigo jolt
sly sparrow
who should i put in her place then?
steep cape
Nara 100% counters silv
dark tundra
maulers is powerful in early stages I use them in my alt
steep cape
Nara is a freaking goddess if you know how to utilize her properly
indigo jolt
SHe counters her teleport, doesnt mean she will do much else though. Silv will just be stuck on nara.
steep cape
When you have an intelligent hero who you need to get skills off with. That’s her purpose @indigo jolt
Maulers are good until around ch.15-16
indigo jolt
Yeah, i know. I'll stop the debate.
sly sparrow
but now i dont know who to put in her place
indigo jolt
Try with nara, tell us how it goes. @sly sparrow
fresh spade
I haven't tried nara since I don't have copies of her
dark tundra
@sly sparrow 4 maulers + your mirael carry.
Akhira(silvina bait)
Brutus (silvina 2nd target)
Mirael
Golus
Another mauler
Let your mirael carry + the faction bonus
I use that trick on chap 8 in my alt but instead of mirael I use Shem. Shem+ maulers
sly sparrow
problem is i dont have golus
indigo jolt
Lucius would work fine.
sly sparrow
nor ankhira... only other mauler i have is saveas
dark tundra
@sly sparrow may I see your roster
sly sparrow
umbral badger
Success after several tries, with only Saveas and Arden left standing. Will now tackle 11-33 and wait for two more diamomds so I can buy a ten pull.
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Nice. Keep going.
sly sparrow
@umbral badger congratulations ♥
umbral badger
@lostdenarian#8364 Thanks 11-33 is proving to not be a filler stage but I'll crack it somehow.
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Yeah, im stuck on 14-11 like that. Just tough as they melt my sav.
umbral badger
I very much need some second copies of several Elite heroes to toughen them up and ladder them to L.
indigo jolt
Don't unless you can get them to L+, basically only focus on ascensions for the top 5.
You need to plan out ascensions in advance now.
umbral badger
@lostdenarian#8364 Good advice! Also why I am hanging onto any dupes of my L/L+ class heroes.
sly sparrow
tbh im stuck om 8-32 too... like Nara does wonders but she only hooks silvina out of Lucius and doesnt later continue to stop her which sucks...
umbral badger
Example: Mirael became the heir of ash and fire when I fed my L+ copy to Estrilda (why not? I can make another Mirael anytime).
I needed one Mythic so I could dispatch quests.
humble zenith
aww i need one more belinda to do her l+
indigo jolt
Estrilda is at least a shop hero, so you can easily get the extra copies if you stick with her for ascended.
pale kettle
Helppp
sly sparrow
ugh i hate Niru so much i cant do the stage
umbral badger
@lostdenarian#8364 Very true! I keep a close eye on advice here and the tier list, building up fodder to E+ in order to support the right pulls when I get them. IIRC I have 2x E+ Wilder fodder in reserve for the copy of Nemora I'll get at the end of chapter 11.
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Show rest of roster, and who does silv jump to.
umbral badger
I will then E+ Nemora and ladder her to L with E+ Ogi/Ira/Arden food.
pale kettle
Nemora always or any squishy
sly sparrow
ughhh why is this stage so hard
umbral badger
@Pettro33#6141 I hate Niru. He cuts down everyone at that stage.
indigo jolt
Arden
Sav
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
@pale kettle Try for nemora to charm Saveas.
sly sparrow
i cant do anything... every time i change formation they still get me ugh
tired dove
Just got everyone to 100 min. Line-up advise?
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow We all get walled at some point.
sly sparrow
YES I WON FINALLY
pale kettle
Ty @indigo jolt
umbral badger
@Pettro33#6141 WOOT! Isn't this channel great?
pale kettle
What do I do 🤔
indigo jolt
@sly sparrow Nice what setup?
sly sparrow
lmao 😄 no but i just tried to change formation and it worked! i mean it was a tough match between golus and saveas in the end but saveas won
brutus lucius front, then nara mirael and saveas at back idk what place tho
pale kettle
Fawkes takes vedan btw
sly sparrow
omg i got my first legendary gear
And another boss stage... thank god there is no Vedan though
tired agate
Pog
sly sparrow
alright i take it back its even worser than with vedan 😂
pale kettle
@sly sparrow for you i think you are just falling behind in levels and you can easily beat the stage from afking and collecting the reward constantly
hybrid zinc
6-24, keep focusing on Saveas or rank up tanks now?
umbral badger
As for ascension, I picked Estrilda to keep laddering because the game kept throwing copies at me from the start with "buy 1st anything get Estrilda free", etc.
hybrid zinc
I don’t have Belinda, still waiting for the free one lol
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Drop belinda for Nara, Backline changes to. Fawkes, Sav,Nara.
Might work, unsure how fast sav will work only at 120 for that stage.
sly sparrow
i have Belinda but i rarely use her now
pale kettle
So frontline same, fawkes top back, sav mid back, and nara bottom back
indigo jolt
yeah
umbral badger
I leaned on Belindaa lot because I focused on LB and Maulers
pale kettle
@indigo jolt lost.. nara just didnt do damage to nemora and even when shemira walked over and helped by the time the charm spam ended the rest of my team was dead and they were collapsed on
umbral badger
Belinda needs a lot of support though so it has been tough with no Lucius. I still pray to RNGesus for a 2nd Hendrik. Him i could definitely use big time.
charred eagle
Mirael it's what I tell you yesterday no? Xd
sly sparrow
idk i always forget 😄 like im trying to level all heroes at once so i get all of em to 121 then i will focus on carries
pale kettle
I mean do you have enough dust for that?
sly sparrow
nope thats why im waiting... but rn all heroes are at 105 or higher so no worries
umbral badger
It took until this morning for me to see the value of Arden first hand, and I am near the end of chapter 11. To me he was a squishy old man, because I didn't level him higher than my ~130ish group AND because I didn't have the tank support to keep the enemy away long enough for him to be useful. Now with him at 141 and Saveas for the carry to help turn anyone who gets too close into a pincushion, Arden is finally earning his keep. (On topic to help explain why the squishy old guy gets so much love yet dishes out so little damage 🦊)
@Pettro33#6141 Congrats! I practically fell out of my chair when that happened, and coined a new term: the GEAR GENIE was generous!!! 👌
mild flare
What would u lineup?
sly sparrow
oh youre talking bout the legendary gear... ye it was slayer image and i have it on saveas now... he turns out to be a good carry but my frontline sucks at 8-36 im at rn
pale kettle
@indigo jolt this can work but it is very RNG rn.. it depends on who charms who, when they are charmed, when they are tangled etc but if it is perfect it is winnable
umbral badger
@Pettro33#6141 I know all about sucky front lines. I have had to run Estrilda as frontline and though she is quick and does damage, to use boxer terms for an STR based hero she has a glass jaw >__<
mild flare
Anyone can help me about line up
pale kettle
I almost had it too but nemora charmed shemira instead of my living nemora which stopped shemira from using ultimate sooner which meant she died RIGHT before her ultimate should have naturally ended aka not saving her and the nemora died anyways without doing anything while shemira was not charmed
sly sparrow
@umbral badger like against this im not surprised i lost so auick
pale kettle
Who does silv jump to
sly sparrow
Mirael mostly
umbral badger
I didn't want to, but before I reset my team to 160 Saveas / 141 Arden / 3x 121 I wasn't able to last 35 seconds in stage 11-32.
vernal berry
And advices?
sly sparrow
but thats because she is mage, but then Nara hooks her so mirael only get stunned
pale kettle
Put mirael in lucius position, replace nara with pink hair lady, and out lucius where mirael was
sly sparrow
wait mirael in front? isnt that kinda risky?
pale kettle
Ya but it puts silvina in front and then the other two collapse so 3 on her with the horse guy
sly sparrow
alright will try and see how it goes
pale kettle
With silvina sometimes forcing her to a certain position so your team can collapse on her helps
sly sparrow
well that was a quick loss... mirael died first just as i expected
pale kettle
Hmm ya i usually just watch it and move stuff around to make it work
sly sparrow
i feel like raine is useless tho... she doesnt do dmg at all
vernal berry
Raine is good
pale kettle
I havent used her.. was just tryna get a light peep to have the faction advantage over horse
Try the black wilder lady instead of pink hair @sly sparrow
sly sparrow
you mean Kaz?
pale kettle
I suck with names but i think so yes
sly sparrow
ok will try
vernal berry
She is very useful with damage dealers like Mirael because she deals high damage and normally kills at least one hero so she recovers energy because that's mostly what Raine ultimate deals so Mirael just keep using her ultimate over and over
pale kettle
Mirael is bait rn
vernal berry
Back in day when I was using Mirael that was hoe I flown through staget
sly sparrow
welp i lost again
pale kettle
I dont even like mirael.. so weak after early game.. falls off as hard as vedan. Op early and thats it
vernal berry
Yep
sly sparrow
idk she feels good to me... probs just me
vernal berry
I switched to shemira rn
pale kettle
Her highest tier is L+ .. in the end her real purpose is to be fodder
sly sparrow
😦
pale kettle
Ya same.. shemira op asf if you get her ult off.. just constant spam
vernal berry
Yep today I used her to feed my Fawkes to M
sly sparrow
but shemira pre 161 is so weak... after that ye but before mirael is better imo
pale kettle
I am getting so unlucky with rolls man
umbral badger
@sly sparrow I want Mirael as waifu, not as a fighter 😇
vernal berry
Ditto
sly sparrow
well... i guess its time i switch to Shemira
pale kettle
I have shemira 140 and i find it op asf. But like my rolls are literally all commons so im slowly SLOWLY buying rares
mild flare
Any advice about lineup??
vernal berry
pale kettle
@mild flare what are you fighting tho 🤔🤔🤔
sly sparrow
but maybe i should reset Mirael first and put the exp on Shemira
vernal berry
Nah u can use crystal
quiet onyx
Guys, I have been stuck at this stage for a week now. Could anyone give me a hand?
sly sparrow
i have her on crystal but since lowest hero lvl is 105 everyone is 105
pale kettle
Level your highest ascension tier and the rest on crystal cuz level caps
umbral badger
@sly sparrow By far my fave combo of sound and animation is Khasos' axes, but he like Gorvo is of limited value frontline because he insists on leaping away, which can leave your backline dangerously exposed.
mild flare
@pale kettle
sly sparrow
and i dont even have Khasos so thats not happening
vernal berry
@quiet onyx athalia on saves Hogan instead of lycra and Ezizh instead of nemor
umbral badger
@sly sparrow Yeah. Khasos is great so long as he either murders whoever is facing him and/or isn't desperately needed to block enemy advance from bulldozing your backline.
sly sparrow
ye but i dont have him so i have to build my matchup differently... maybe i could start using Shemira instead of Mirael and reset Mirael and put all exp to Shem
pale kettle
What tier is shemira
sly sparrow
Elite
pale kettle
Her max is 100 I think
vernal berry
My team is literally 250k power lower
...this is what being stuck means
umbral badger
Like Nara, Khasos is best as 3rd str-based hero i.e. someone to target the enemy backline
sly sparrow
i have her on resonating crystal atm
ember bane
Need advice plz ty
umbral badger
It's not a commandment though, since like sometimes using certain agility heroes in front, Khasos and Nara can also win as tanks.
pale kettle
Nara is a tank i thought
loud dagger
Nara isnt
quiet onyx
@vernal berry sorry, where should I put Athalia? And thanks for responding
amber arrow
Nata isnt agility
umbral badger
@pale kettle Yes but so is Estrilda on paper at least
loud dagger
@pale kettle nara is focused CC unit
pale kettle
She wears strength hero gear and my god i hate the timer xD
vernal berry
In mirror position of Saveas
amber arrow
@quiet onyx Top left
charred eagle
Mirael over boosted is insane in early mid game xd
quiet onyx
Ah, Saveas, apologies
loud dagger
Oh a silvina niru stage
umbral badger
Nara is STR. So are Khasos and Estrilda, but their usefulness is different.
loud dagger
Just place that nemora in front of niru then your main dps behind that nemora
Since silvina targets the mage
dark tundra
Heyo
umbral badger
Example: in certain cases, over leveled Shemira or Saveas can be used frontline like tanks.
umbral badger
@loud dagger Hence my disclaimer
quiet onyx
Didn’t work. Silvina kills Ezhiz in a flash 😦
loud dagger
Remember saveas insnt that tanky enough to defend himself
dark tundra
@ember bane
Tasi
Shem
Athalia
Lyca
Arden
loud dagger
Also add that all skills of saveas chunks a portion of his hp
amber arrow
@quiet onyx I always try to put another mage in as "fodder" for silvina to kill if I dont want her killing my belinda for example
quiet onyx
I could put my low level Belinda for her
loud dagger
@amber arrow nope . . . . I dont recommend that on
Silvina, niru stage
amber arrow
Try putting your Shemira somewhere so she doesnt kill any other mage that you want to survive
umbral badger
@loud dagger Absolutely, yet as a workaround in limited cases he can withstand the onslaught long enough to, say, run Nara in a corner opposite enemy dps or healer mage to take then out.
quiet onyx
But that means losing another spot. Also, Hogan is so freaking weak that he can’t handle the fight for 2 seconds
loud dagger
Hogan has downsides on graveborn ye know
amber arrow
Works for me
quiet onyx
He’s dying to maulers before the graveborns even get a chance to reach him lol
umbral badger
@quiet onyx Had that problem in 11-32 with enemy Golus walking through four of my heroes like they were cardboard cutouts >___<
loud dagger
I feel that
quiet onyx
@umbral badger exactly
quiet onyx
Yes
dark tundra
Sometimes u need to afk more to pass the stage
fierce kayak
Golus be more and more tanky as we progress... it's almost like he is same as Brutus.. immue.. lol
umbral badger
I was all like "SRSLY?! Not even FIFTEEN seconds in and you're ALL REKD?!"
dark tundra
@fierce kayak I hate golus
He always cancel my shemira
fierce kayak
@dark tundra ya... everytime I see him.. I feel he should be a S tier tank in early stage too.. lol..
Ya.. later on I also feel like a lot of heroes also cancel Shemira like Estilda....
Miss the old days where Mythic Shemira can sweep the floor easily...
umbral badger
Bolus (what I call him since as an ally he's not better than cat food) is like Jekyll and Hyde. As enemy he is a four hooved self propelled stompfest 🤔
dark tundra
Late game is really about luck . Good rng to passed
eager raft
How can I improve my team ?
olive panther
Can’t get past this stage it recks me so bad please help thanks
frank scarab
Classic 9-20
olive panther
Yep pretty rough
frank scarab
One thing im sure of though: sticking saveas in front is a death wish and he will immediately die right there before he gets to get his fat damage off
I recommend putting him in the back of someone else, maybe to where he hits niru, you wanna take that guy out asap bc he will fuck ya over real hard if you dknt immediately kill him
olive panther
Oh I was just trying different things
frank scarab
And id rather put athalia on either isabella or ira to distract them instead, the biggest problem with this level ive noticed was that isabella and ira do way too much and kill your entire frontline while you take forever to burst theirs down
dark tundra
My alt is also stucked at 9-20
9-20 the first big wall in this game
frank scarab
It wouldve been really nice if you had some cc to distract them all, or a fawkes but ive never had a hero spread like yours before, so im not really sure whatll help beat it :[
frank scarab
First time i tried it i had a fawkes to take isabella out while brutus was on iras side iirc
And saveas to kill niru asap
Second time it was basically just the classic wilder trio with brutus and saveas/shemira
suicide lyca in front of niru while saveas or shemira kill asap and it kinda just succeeded from there
pale kettle
Suggestion for clear this stage in tower?
nova siren
Any idea to help out here? Been trying to move chars around but no luck
tight swallow
Should I upgrade my Belinda to Legendary or my Hogan to L+?(I have shemira Elite plus btw)
wide gull
Belinda has a killer AoE
olive panther
This has actually gotten me really close
elfin scroll
Hey guys what heroes should be my main lineup in general or should I focus on from this hero pool
I shouldn't feed an ascended into another ascended otherwise I'd make Belinda or estrilda mythic
tired dove
What should I do until I pull another Estrilda?
faint quest
Pull another saveas
tired dove
Sure thanks. not really since my Saveas pull is ass on this account
dark tundra
9-20 is the first meme
outer orchid
Stuck on 8-32 what line up should i use?
Enemy Team an My Heroes can be seen here: https://imgur.com/gallery/Lh5iJgv
dry smelt
9-20
frank scarab
Send list of all your heroes
dark tundra
Charming nemora and hitting IRA with athalia will be good strategy on that
pale kettle
Uh maybe try brutus and the guy that looks like legolas in front line with shemira bottom right, and whoever you want in the other two spots.. i dont even own half the peeps you have so like 🤔🤷♂️ idk how useful they are/synergies
dry smelt
i tried the guy that looks like legolas in frontline to pull them in, but he is agility based so he got one-shotted
mystic barn
Should I feed Angelo to Belinda or Estrilda?
frank scarab
@dry smelt i think he means blondie lucius
dry smelt
but eironn looks more like legolas than lucius
frank scarab
@mystic barn belinda, estrilda kinda blows compared to other lightbearers
If i were you id just keep estrilda forever at leg+
Idk maybe it was easy for him to mix up
wow thats really rough, you dont even have an arden or fawkes or tas or anything to help w u
outer orchid
Any idea what i can do to pass 8-32?
clear saddle
show the enemy as well pls ty
frank scarab
Caan you check if you can ascend arden to leg+? His cc will help very much if you can get him to 141 @dry smelt
outer orchid
clear saddle
their formation -.-
fickle tiger
Any suggestions for 15-12?
outer orchid
I can put him to leg but not leg+
But what team comp do you suggest?
frank scarab
@outer orchid show something like this
clear saddle
@fickle tiger i think try shemira facing estrilda with arden at the bottom to root her and see if that works. keep tasi top so she doesnt die to the charge
dry smelt
i'll see later if i can get arden to L+
clear saddle
Right now your shemira is just going to melt to the lyca @fickle tiger
tacit kayak
tried switching nemora for tasi but havent had much luck, any advice? only saveas survives but gets screwed over
humble zenith
brisk tapir
void dock
@brisk tapir
Lyca
Shemira (with call/eyes/blade)
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Try to adjust tasi ulti with shemira
fickle tiger
@clear saddle ok ill try that
clear saddle
let me know how it goes
void dock
@tacit kayak try to put nemo face 2 face with saveas...
brisk tapir
Ill have a try ty
void dock
@brisk tapir no worries 
tacit kayak
like this? @void dock
void dock
Yeah.. if u can ascend your hero to 161.. pls ascen shem first @tacit kayak
outer orchid
void dock
Once shem reach 161 she can tank... give her dura call and she can wreck the enemy
clear saddle
I prefer to use call on tasi with eye on shem but call works too i guess
frank scarab
Call can work on frontline shemiras
void dock
@clear saddle yep.. depend on the situation.. up till chapter 16 i put call on shem..
Later on i adjust depend on the situation
clear saddle
void dock
On chap 20-?? I put chalice on shem... 🤣🤣
void dock
@clear saddle
Tasi
Lyca
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Try that
clear saddle
will give it a shot, but that silvina will destroy anything it touches lol
void dock
@tranquil garden oh man... arden with lyca... 🤣
Have u try a lot? Maybe RNGesus will help u.. 😂😂
clear saddle
The silvina hits the backline and then isabella zaps and they're dead. also my lyca dies immediatley
void dock
@clear saddle who silvi target?
clear saddle
arden
void dock
Have u try switching equipment so silvi change the target? @clear saddle
tranquil garden
Yeah, I've tried swapping Athalia for nemora so she disables the enemy arden but by the time shem ulti, everyone else is dead
clear saddle
i can change it so nemora gets targeted but otherwise whoever gets targeted just dies immediatley
void dock
Maybe u can replace arden with athalia and put nemo face 2 face with shem... @tranquil garden
clear saddle
guess im hard stuck here for a while then :/
dark tundra
@clear saddle not if u 200 Shem and Brutus first and 141+ wilders. 
clear saddle
Gotta get reso crystal to 160 (or is it 161?) to level shem up to 200
gray bone
160
clear saddle
ok im close i guess, a few days to 160. then a long time to 200 xd
also more gear might help
gray bone
after that it would be hard to get that much heroe essence that u need than
fickle tiger
@clear saddle no luck. I guess I need to wait for more levels :c
tired dove
Any suggestions?
abstract shuttle
Any help with 14-35
clear saddle
I guess so @fickle tiger your brutus probably needs to be a bit higher
fickle tiger
@clear saddle ok nvm just as I mentioned that I got it xd
abstract shuttle
clear saddle
@fickle tiger nice! which setup?
sly sparrow
congrats... i have yet to defeat my stage D:
fickle tiger
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
clear saddle
@abstract shuttle have you tried swapping nemora out for tasi and swapping positions with arden? you could also try have shemira face kaz and hope for root on lyca and kaz
edgy surge
dark tundra
@sly sparrow sorry ma friend can't help ya
sly sparrow
its okay... i probs just have to farm for a while then lvl up my heroes and then it will go
edgy surge
Swapping shemira front doesnt work either, any tips?
outer orchid
Any suggestions? Been stuck for Days.
faint quest
Keep getting those heroes up and higher ascension for now @sly sparrow
dark tundra
@edgy surge
Tasi/Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shem
Lyca
Just swap the position for Shem to lyca if she die fast
The trick is to charm ferael
next quiver
@outer orchid Don't level your heroes evenly. Overlevel a carry hero - in your case probably Belinda. You will progress faster that way.
outer orchid
Ok, how manny levels are a good idea?
Is my team good or shoul I change something?
placid hawk
So I pulled a few new characters can anyone help me with a lineup
dark tundra
@abstract shuttle
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shem
Just swap the position of tasi and arden if can't pass
sly sparrow
@faint quest what heroes tho
faint quest
Shemira, nemora, arden, tasi
clear saddle
@pseudo ice k ill try that later, thanks
sly sparrow
@faint quest i only have shemira and nemora from these tho
chilly prism
Would you guys go Arden to 141 first for crazy CC upgrade or brutus for some tank upgrade? The extra root or 2 extra seconds of invincibility
steep cape
@chilly prism Brutus gains extra 3 sec and makes a huge difference. That being said Arden’s roots for cc are pretty badass. Based on your team I would do brutus though. And get your sav to 141 ASAP. Then run Brutus sav shem fer and Baden
@soft igloo id run Brutus sav shem Baden athalia. Or Brutus sav nemora Arden athalia unless you have amazing equip for tasi
Hammy my guess is you need to level more. Not the greatest heroes in bag so just need to level what you have. I’d try thoran ghetz hogan Belinda and your dude with the gun. @tawny reef
empty plinth
Last stage of chapter 14. I get ALL enemies to between 25-50% health from Shemira’s ultimate. I could make Shemira Mythic+ but it would involve foddering Kelthur to make a Leg+ Silvina, but idk if it’s really worth it or not. Any other hero combinations I could try?
steep cape
@pale kettle id run shem ghetz brutus athalia and fer or athalia and khaos. Put Brutus by shem so that he falls back to help her kill Silv. Put best equip on Brut
@empty plinth show me rest of your heroes and sure as hell dont fodder
mortal oak
Please help
steep cape
@mortal oak who else you have
empty plinth
@steep cape all my heroes
steep cape
@empty plinth damn no athalia eh :(. I’d run shem Baden Kelth ez and Arden maybe? Could also try a full graveborn team of shem Thor kelth fer and Baden.
empty plinth
Thanks I’ll try
mortal oak
Can I do something with me? @steep cape
pale kettle
And me 😭
steep cape
@mortal oak so I have a few recommendations. 1) remove golus ankhia ogi and sav from resonator. Put in Baden Nara Kelth and eirron
mortal oak
@pale kettle try
Tasi---belinda---Nemora backwards and
Estrilda lucius
empty plinth
@steep cape I tried the full graveborn team and I managed to take down Mirael and Estrilda. The only problem is that Baden dies early on from Estrilda and Ferael is too weak and gets killed early too. I tried Silvina in place of Ferael and I also still killed Mirael and Estrilda, but Belinda Angelo and Hogan still remain alive and on around 50%+ health
mortal oak
tranquil garden
@pseudo ice I love you, your solution did the trick 😄
empty plinth
Okayyy I beat 14-40 hell yeah
steep cape
@mortal oak then run a 5 wilder or 5 graveborn team or a 4/1
radiant topaz
Should I keep focusing on these main heros. Or are there others that are good for early game I should use instead
faint quest
@sly sparrowmainly just get those 2 up and arden too
steep cape
How you end up doing it @empty plinth
empty plinth
@steep cape I replaced Ferael with Ira in position 3 and put Seirus in position 4. Ira made Estrilda bleed out and Seirus used his ability that knocked 3 enemies over so I was able to build up Thoran Kelthur and Shemira’s ultimates and they managed to finish off the rest
twilit jungle
Can anyone help me with 21-4?
still oar
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi @twilit jungle
pale kettle
my M estrilda is so squishy and always dies fast in ch. 13, despite L gear. i want to reset her, who’s a good graveborn to replace her with so i get max faction bonus?
still oar
Wrong @twilit jungle wait I thought 20 04 let me check SS
pale kettle
i also just got an E warek from soul stones but i don’t wanna rely on pulling him again
twilit jungle
@pale kettle thoran would be good. He can tank pretty hard with his ability
pale kettle
too bad he’s only E 😢
still oar
@twilit jungle
If you use shemira + wilder, use brutus to buy time @pale kettle no need 15%
pale kettle
my brutus is only E 😦
still oar
It's okay as long as he has 7s to but time
twilit jungle
Swap Brutus for Lucius @pale kettle
dark tundra
@twilit jungle someone beat 21-4 full set of mauler with safiya and mighty brutus
still oar
Who's silvina's target? Tasi?
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Charm grezhul. You might actually want to reset your crystal to 141 and make shemira higher @pale kettle
pale kettle
@pale kettle i just beat 14-16 with lvl 150 wilders in back line, and shemira front top and estrilda front bottom
my shem is also 181 and she’s a hard carry through ch 12-14. what helped me whats using lyca to take out one of the vedans quickly and letting my nemora and arden get their ult off
fierce kayak
Am I strong enough to beat this stage? 16-20.
faint quest
Honestly^ farthest I got to was niru, grezhul and vedan still alive
fierce kayak
Lol.. just wanna know anyone get pass this with just a Mythic Shem.
This formation should work.. if my Shem is at least M+ I think
pale kettle
@still oar
still oar
Try replace silvina'a target with level 1 so niru won't get huge buff if tasi can't survive
Yes now try it @pale kettle
pale kettle
Ok
still oar
Remember cc grezhul
fierce kayak
Bean, any insight? :)
still oar
Try replace silvina'a target with level 1 so niru won't get huge buff if tasi can't survive @fierce kayak
fierce kayak
O.. tahts for me. Ok tks.
Nemora for lyca?
still oar
If the cc not enough add nemora
Since no lyca in the oppo
Yea
Grezhul steal and niru buff probably make it harder
fierce kayak
Ya.. I came across a something that left out lyca beat this stage I think
steep cape
@empty plinth nice man congrats
dark tundra
Old times 15-40
still oar
@pale kettle keep trying he did it with this team and yours is higher
pale kettle
Silvina is attacking tasi 1st not nemora
still oar
He did it with the comp I recommend
pale kettle
@still oar ok thanks ❤️
dark tundra
@fierce kayak that's my level team in 16 I think u can beat 16. I just found it in my gallery
still oar
What kind of magic is that
fierce kayak
@dark tundra Thanks bud. But... ..... lol...
dark tundra
Oohhh I am a estrilda user too huh
desert ledge
Need lineup for soren and the other guild boss
fierce kayak
@dark tundra I can only guess Brutus top Shem bot. Mythic is nemora? Other 2 I not sure
dark tundra
I think that's lyca and it's estrilda
faint quest
I don't find myself beating 16-20 anytime soon T_T
dark tundra
I should ss it all argh
pale kettle
@still oar 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
still oar
Gz 😁 👍
dark tundra
I feel like I have lots of bugs on 16 huh
pale kettle
@plucky flint thanks for the advice that lineup made a lot of difference. Any ideas for new lineup?
lapis sand
humble zenith
8-8
sly sparrow
oh ye welcome to chapter 8 where it gets all hard
sly sparrow
actually no worries youre at the easier part of chapter 8... after 8-20 or so it starts to mess up
rancid bison
anyone help me with a team for soren?
ember bane
Need a way to kill Silvana fast
lapis sand
next quiver
@ember bane Does Silvina have the highest attack rating? Fawkes could put her in a coffin. Otherwise, put a low-defense mage in the front line with DPS behind so Silvina jumps to the front-line and your DPS targets her.
grizzled grotto
Hey I’m stuck on 14-34 any help would be appreciated ^^ ty
sand rune
Hey hey. I’ve been stuck on 12-32 this whole week. Any help is appreciated!
sly sparrow
Please need help with 8-36... im stuck nothing works D:
turbid fern
Hey Guys, I'm stuck at 9-35, any idea for a comp please ?
sand rune
@turbid fern If you can, get your Saveas ascended to L+ and overlevel him. He's a beast through 9, 10, and 11. You've got some good CC with Tasi and Nemora, which will freeze stuff for Saveas to rip through.
sly sparrow
and 8
turbid fern
@sand rune thank you for the tip but I truly can't, I'm short of Maulers fodders big time
frigid spruce
Here's what i'm currently running in chapter 9. Any changes that can be suggested? i'm doing pretty decent but if there's a better comp i'm all ears
sand rune
@turbid fern In the meantime, try:
Tasi
Estrilda
Nemora
Brutus
Saveas
You want to take out the Vedan immediately.
And if you have another Wilder or Mauler to replace Estrilda, it might help for the faction bonus.
turbid fern
@sand rune I'm getting nuked much faster with this setup. I do have Vurk, Safiya, Khasos & varek(in crystal) and then Eironn or Lyca (but too squishy) none of these heroes are Elite+ though
uneven parcel
Those Hypogean mages do both double shimera dmg O.O
Need some help here
Already tried
Fwakes instead of tasi
Arden instead of nemora
Arden fwakes instead of lyca nemora
Nara instead of tasi to pull in shimera then directly put her in coffin but still lost
Note: 20 tries with each expect arden tasi did 50 before moving on
sand rune
@turbid fern Have you tried swapping in Khasos? His life-leech assist may help.
turbid fern
@sand rune I was thinking about giving him a shot as I have one slot in my crystal. Who would I swap though ?
sand rune
@turbid fern Swap out Estrilda, so you can get the faction bonus. It might not work because she's pulling her weight as a 131, but the faction bonus + life leech may give you an edge.
uneven parcel
@turbid fern
Try
Saveas
Brutus
Eironn
Athalia
Ulmus
Eironn pull 3 in for brutus spin bucket and ghen saveas finishes rest and ulmus for totems to win time
uneven parcel
@turbid fern yea oops
turbid fern
@uneven parcel & @sand rune Ok, I'll give both ideas a try
humble zenith
its 8-12
uneven parcel
@humble zenith
Try
Saveas
Brutus
Mirael
Thane
Belinda
sand rune
I'm stuck on 12-36 if anyone can assist. Thank you very much. Posted above.
uneven parcel
@sand rune put mage silv jumps on in front line saveas behind him/her to kill silv fast
turbid fern
@sand rune holy smokes, that worked like a charm ! life leech is so powerful even if khasos dies it still worked xD @uneven parcel That didn't worked out
sand rune
@uneven parcel Assuming the mage will be sacrificial 😃
pale kettle
@silent wraith
sand rune
@turbid fern Nice! I'm glad it worked. Faction bonus is pretty sweet too. 😃
uneven parcel
@sand rune don't worry the mage won't even know what happend the end will come quick for him :p so yes
faint quest
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca, try arden to root arden and kaz and get lucky with kaz's crits and pray to kill before ira destroys u @pale kettle
turbid fern
And I could beat 9-36 too with a good rng, that's cool 😮
sand rune
@turbid fern Sweet xD
umbral badger
Still getting murdered by 11-33, but glad I beat 11-32. I need to figure out how to effectively counter enemy Bolus 'cause he's OP at the end of Chapter 11.
I beat 11-33! Did it with Brutus and Estrilda still in front, but the big change was swapping out Fawkes in back to make Saveas, Nara to curb stomp Mirael, and Arden tucked in the corner.
zinc wren
Any advice for this level? 17-32
restive yoke
Last stage of Chapter 8, Silvina jumps Mehira and half my team is dead before Lucius can even ult. What can I do?
uneven parcel
@zinc wren have you tried lucius fweakes and belinda (with shimera in back) instead of the 3 wilders?
@restive yoke try this: put mehira in front ans saveas behind to kill silv fast after her jump
restive yoke
Up top or at the bottom?
zinc wren
@uneven parcel thanks, I’ll give that a shot!
restive yoke
Mehira dies too fast...Lucius gets interrupted too @uneven parcel
uneven parcel
@restive yoke your saveas can't kill silvina?
restive yoke
Nope, he doesn't get his ult up fast enough without Lyca & doesn't do enough damage
uneven parcel
@uneven parcel try
Saveas
Mehira
Kelthur
Vedan
Silvina
Enemy silv jumps on arden yours will jump on niru or isabella(best is niru so that he doesn't get stronger)
And you are mot disadvantaged against their garveborn so maybe that will make a difference
restive yoke
Arden...?
uneven parcel
@umbral badger try same team but with belinda/safiya/khasos instead of arden to get bonus
umbral badger
Tried putting Nara opposite Morvus and he blew her away with two shots.
@uneven parcel I'll give that a try
restive yoke
Also, I don't have 4 sets of agility equipment XD
uneven parcel
-_-'
restive yoke
My Silvina jumps Isabella...Who should I gear up?
umbral badger
@uneven parcel Decent results but defeat, and neither mage lived long enough to fire off an ult
Gonna Try Fawkes / Belinda / Saveas
restive yoke
Oh, should probably mention I have 3 sets of agility equipment: strongest, subpar & trash
uneven parcel
@restive yoke uhhh trying to find some comp that works for you maybe return to 3 lightbearers and always saveas and this time added with arden in the mixbto compensate lack of equipement
restive yoke
So no Mehira?
indigo jolt
@umbral badger Show roster again.
umbral badger
@indigo jolt Sure!
zinc surge
umbral badger
zinc surge
Can someone help me with this fken stage please ?
past hull
I’ve hit a roadblock on 6-36, been stuck here for like 2 days 😭 can anyone suggest anything?
thorny gyro
@zinc surge you've been eating your Ardens, haven't you? I would try to use Fawkes instead of Lyca. Lyca isn't amazing until 121
indigo jolt
@umbral badger
Sav
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
If its not close after a few, i have another setup in mind.
thorny gyro
@past hull, reset all your heroes and push Saveas to 100 if he is elite, or 101 if elite+
past hull
Oh really?
thorny gyro
Ya, my advice should work. It's always better to over level your carry, who is Saveas in this case. So get him to 100 first, and then raise everyone else evenly, then until Sav is elite +, raise Brutus. Drop Shemira or Belinda for Arden
past hull
I'll give that a try, thanks!
frigid spruce
Here's what i'm currently running in chapter 9. Any changes that can be suggested? i'm doing pretty decent but if there's a better comp i'm all ears
autumn shoal
tidal moth
craggy reef
regal heron
haughty plover
soft igloo
tawny reef
