#lineup-help
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Did you try putting lyca on bottom back to focus niru? Arden still has higher def than tasi?
I tried that and yeah arden has 37 more def than tasi
Try swapping out Arden for nemora and lemme know what happens
9-40?
@south herald you're doing it wrong cuz assuming tasi gets dove by silvina shemira will have to face niru and silvina after tasi teleports, swap shemira and brutus also if silvina doesn't dive tasi make arden have more defense then her
@pale kettle arden gets dove
Give him items that tasi have
Ok
And show me your artifacts
@pale kettle and btw Shem dies cuz grezhul op š
Wdym swap shemira back
Shemira vs niru and tasi behind Brutus
Ok
Who should I use as team
Can anyone help me make a lineup?
@worthy nimbus you need to provide a screenshot of the enemy team positions otherwise no one knows what youāre dealing with
@nocturne frigate depends who youāre fighting
@opal gulch try Arden instead of khasos for crowd control
Just a core team to start pushing camp
Ok I'll try
@magic cape
@nocturne frigate try hogan, vedan, Nara, tasi, nemora
My tanks can't survive long enuf without the faction buff
I'm stuck 2 days now help
20-8 need help
@pale kettle what level are you on?
@leaden pelican you have your lineup for 19-28 handy?
u mean how i pass 19-28?
she/bru/lyca/arden/tasi
sil jump on tasi
@idle fossil forgot to tag
No worries, I appreciate it! Is that a top to bottom line up @leaden pelican
1 2 3 4 5 accordingly
Ok ty
@opal gulch Iād recommend investing in silvina. She got me to chap 16
Gotcha, thank you
Ooo okay
Not sure how Iām going to get tasiās defense low enough to have silv jump her but Iāll figure it out lol
my tasi still E+,i switch one of my shemila eq to tasi sometimes
but my she is already white, so her damage is enough even without 3star eq
@charred brook try moving saveas to bottom back, tasi to middle, and Belinda top
oh u mean make her def lower than arden, just put the cloak artifact on him
See I thought that but my tasis base defense is 2700, Arden canāt even scratch 2400 lol
0_0 ur tasi must be high ascended
And thatās without gear on tasi and full gear on Arden. Sheās M so Iāll have to get creative, maybe reset her to 160 lol
My biggest advice for anyone is to use silvina if you arenāt up to chap 16 yet. I guarantee that she will carry with a team to support her
my tasi is 2519def e+ 167lv haha
Hold on, I actually think I have an e+ tasi laying around
u can give tasi some gold colour eq,but mythic boot, she just need to survive the first hit by SIL
you can try switch armor to lower tier armor,cuz armor provides most def if not mitaken
I've been stuck on this level for a few days
Wth silv is still targeting Arden even though he has higher defense now
hmm š® how is that possible
@idle fossil Iām not in the loop, whatās goin on?
18-14
@red patio you can try brutus/lyca/shemila/arden/nemora
@pale kettle try swapping positions with Arden and Belinda
but u need really good rng, like perfect cc
@leaden pelican yeh rng is a bitch i tried arden but he dies before the root comes out
try put excatly like brutus/lyca/shemila/arden/nemora
see if he can root first or not
and also youneed lyca to dodge like super crazy thats the hardest part
welp my lyca aint dodging shit and arden is pretty much rooting at the same time
hmm,my arden can root before the opponent if i arrange the placement like that
@red patio arden can't root when u against full wilders team if u put him in front ogi, try top down lyca brutus top down arden shemira tasi
Idk why that happen but i use the same comp u use but with Lucius instead brutus
hmm its showing worse result compare to lovespin my arden dies instantly and shemira is rooted @frigid dagger
I thought so, it works for me cuz Lucius shield :/
@leaden pelican @frigid dagger thanks for the help! got past it
@red patio np,gratz
save this formation,u need it for 3 more stages later,with same enemy comp @red patio
gotcha thanks again š
@faint quest well first, why is lyca in front of vedan? His stabbies hurt. She should at least be in front of grezhul. Who has lowest defense? Iām guessing tasi.
@magic cape the line up still doesn't work
@leaden pelican it worked, but now Iām on 19-36 which is basically identical but that switched golus and grez so itās even harder lol
@idle fossil what do u mean switched golus and grez?
Just switched positions. Grez is on top now, golus on bottom. Canāt mirror the lineup because Isabelle one shots tasi if sheās in the 3rd position
can show me the ss? haha
@pale kettle have you tried vedan instead of Arden? You might be lacking damage. Also whoās got the better equipment between hogan and hendrik?
@leaden pelican
It tried vedan instead of saveas
@idle fossil shemila/brutus/nemora/arden/tasi , sil jump on nemora
i remember my nemora can take 2 hit from sil
Man youāre making this so hard lol, time to try and get my nem to lowest defense. Youāve been right so far though so I trust ya lol
@idle fossil 20-4, why?
I was seeking advice on stage 19, love helped me with with one but now Iām stuck on 19-36, Iām trying the lineup he suggested but itās not performing as well as Iād hoped. Iāll keep trucking though
Tricky thing is Iāve seen the win condition, but only once out of my hundreds of tries. Tasi has to survive the silvina jump, teleport behind isabella, ghost her twice, and ult just before someone even scratches her because silvina jumping her leaves her with 1 hp. All this assuming shemira survived this long and Brutus ulted, while Arden is rooting the right people
Reset thane and ferael lvl and use the xp on tasi too, just 100 gems if u want the xp back, 40 if u don't want to
I have extra xp, enough to 180 tasi, but she has to have lower defense than Arden
What if u switch arden with lyca, then use nemora instead arden in tasi's position and use tasi in the top
Mmmm fuck yeah rng got me through. Appreciate the help though, Iāll probably be back at 19-40 lol
Oh that's nice
I tried that too, Isabelle one shots slot 3 almost immediately. It was a tricky level for sure
19-38 its hard 19-40 its easy
Help pls
Shemira where tasi is, lyca where lucius is, lucius where shemira, nemora where lyca (pref Arden over nemora btw)
@pale kettle
Idk what you doing on that stage with shemira on 200 :p
Hey, I could use some help with 8-40
Replace numisu for Saveas and seirus for lucius try that @lapis mason
canāt beat this one
@faint quest do you mean in the crystal? I was asking for a lineup for this specific chapter. I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean
hi lads im stuck at 9-20 again 
@frank scarab Say yes to Saveas and no to Shemira. I didnāt get to really see Shemiraās effectiveness during the pre-161 days, but Iāve heard that she wasnāt too sustainable yet. I would ascend Saveas and overlvl him.
@pale kettle sheās just not doing it for me man idk. 4mythics on her too
@pale kettle Your team is very similar to mine. Yours might be a bit better power wise. That level is really about attack instead of defense.
What should I do then? @still path
@pale kettle I would try two different team setups.
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Oh... even elite Arden? Elite Arden is enough to do the job in scenarios like this where you need to stall enough for Shemira to ult.
Try that same lineup but with Nemora in replacement for Arden. If you lose, tell me who in the opposite team is giving the most trouble.
Alright Iāll give it a try
Took a couple tries but got it thanks. Arden was causing issues
@still path i dont have anything to ascend saveas with, hes stuck at 120 for now and he definitely wont be enough to carry me at the state hes in
Honestly shemira isnt that bad rn and she does a decent chunk of damage. This stage is just too much because everything dies way too fast before they can do anything
@pale kettle You really need to save up for at least an elite Arden. That little old man will take you to the top!
Ive tried my standard comp of brutus lucius fawkes belinda saveas and it dies even faster than this one tbh
This is the farthest progress ive gotten but its still practically nothing
@frank scarab The problem in that level is killing Niru quickly. A quick change of something like this might help:
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
YO
IT ACTUALLY WORKED
NICE
The change to brut from lucius was also a really big factor ive noticed bc lucius dies way too fast to ult and brutus being a fat undying meatshield was way more useful
Thanks man!
No problem! Always glad to help š
Estrilda or Hogan? who's he better tank?
Yeah Iāll try to remember to not just feed him into something lol.
@polar moon I canāt really call Estrilda a tank. Sheās very squishy and deals a lot of damage. Hogan does a better job staying alive and āstallingā for your other heroes.In terms of better hero, Estrilda by far. Her buffs are insane and her ult makes an enemy useless for a few seconds.
@frank scarab āFat, Undying meatshieldā is now my new favorite way to describe Brutus 
LMAO
I mean at elite/elite+ where he doesnt do much damage yet thats pretty much what he is
@polar moon estrilda and hogan serve very different purposes. As a frontline tank whose role is to just stay alive hogan is better because hes a big ol fat bag of HP and takes a long ass time to die, but kinda sucks in everything else; doesnt do much damage once you reach the 100+s, cc is meh compared to what everything else has, etc.
Estrilda, on the other hand; yeah she just dies kinda fast vs other tanks. But like sue said, BIG damage especially when ascended more. A lightbearer team will definitely appreciate the energy regen + atk rating/atk speed support from her for sure.
I definitely value estrilda over hogan more. However if you lack any big tanks, its better to keep hogan around first till you find a better replacement.
im currently @ the 140+ lvls
i oly have hogan + brutus available as my frontline
with Belinda+ Fawkes+Numisu on the backlines
3 Light+2Maulers comp....
I was just wondering if i could replace Hogan with Estrilda
@polar moon go estrilda is better than Hogan but u can use Hogan in situational purposes
Hello ! I don't know what Can I take , I'm beginner š Can you help me ?
I have this :')
@green hollow use ezizh and your Nara there is a lot of silvina there so your belinda will not be target by silvina
8-16
@dark tundra im actually gonna use him so i can ascend my Belinda further....
Okay and at backline ?
@green hollow advice that don't ascend heroes too much focus on 5 heroes to ascend only so u will not having problem later on use resonating crystal u should use that thing.
Try to 140 your Belinda and 100 others she might carry u
Okay thanks !
Belinda + Raine is a sick combo @green hollow ...3 or more consecutive ultimate is goooooooooooood
@polar moon i use brutus estrilda but before i got other decent tanks i kept hogan just in case i needed him
Also depends on ascension levels too, elite estrilda is definitely not gonna survive but elite+ might work
Also, why would you run numisu over saveas oof
@frank scarab cuz i got no saveas š¦ RNG not going in my favor on having him
wait what
thats actually really sad RIP
that lad is clutch af
id imagine saveas being a likelier pull as a rare hero over numisu though
well actually there was a time when i used him to ascend my brutus to legedary...
@polar moon u can use nemora instead if u want a healer
that
does not sound too worth
especially if you couldnt ascend straight to leg+
rip in peace
its ok maybe youll get lucky and pull 2 brutuses in one day
or 10 shemira and get her straight to asc
Numisu is prety good actually...his wards are pretty good distraction....his heals are kinda meh though
yeah numisus totems are exceptionally annoying as someone that runs saveas belinda
yeah saveas get distracted by random totem time as the enemy team melts your team
haha belinda get rekt aim at the totem a thousand feet away from the middle of the enemy team
Should i ascend Tasi to M or Nemora to M+? MY lineup is usually Tasi, Nemora, Arden/Lyca, Shemira + 1 tank
@cedar oar nemora, tasi is fine even at a not so high ascension level and nemora being at a higher asc means more hp = fatter heals
Why would you crystal ogi and niru but not lyca
Also id much have rather crystalled ezizh than leveled him up, it takes WAY too long to pull hypogean heroes that he'll be stuck at elite for practically forever
@green hollow nope choose a 5 heroes that have high Ascension so u will not always reset it. May I see your stage?
@green hollow try it. If not use grezhul Nara ezizh Belinda toran so u could have bonus faction
I'm not blocked but I want to advance and not being blocked After
I don't unedrstand what's raine ulti ?
Gives enemies a bounty debuff which makes your teammates do more damage to the enemies
Anyone have a decent wrizz lineup for me? Iām fine changing out crystal slots. Currently running Estrilda, sav, vaden, lyca, nemora
My first question is why 3 rare Morvus aren't ascended lmao
I dun use it
Having a bit of trouble with this one, Mythic Saveas just isn't fair. Any advice?
@pallid sphinx reset all your heroes make vedan lvl 80 for now then full set of graveborn. Btw what chapter is that
3-36
@pallid sphinx in general don't level up your legendary tier heroes.. I know you're early on but still
You always want your top 5 leveled heroes to be your highest ascension ranks
@willow moon run nemora opposite sav. Get her to charm him and murder his own team. If she charms someone else, restart
Then how abt vedan lyca and thoran so do i reset all my other heroes
Hi, any advices for 11-38 ?
@plucky flint Tried that, the charm doesn't last long enough to make much of a difference unfortunately. Every game ends in a stalemate with the two Saveas dueling forever.
Help me plz. Pm me!
Every. Single. Time.
If there wasn't a stupid timer I'd beat this level already.
@willow moon who else are you running? I beat that stage with levels right around yours. If youāre getting close enough to get a sav vs sav stalemate, youāre real close. Just need some rng luck to have one cc hero alive with you at the end...
Any tips for 19-36?
Help me plz. Pm me!
@willow moon another option is Brutus and sav up top, nemora at the bottom charming spiderwoman (who then cocoons her own team).
@plucky flint Yeah I'm using
Nem
Brut
Numisu
Lucius
Saveas
She gets her charm off too late for Ankhira to cocoon her own team
Get rid of numisu imo. The faction bonus isnāt worth it. If you really need the faction bonus, then go sav and brut up top, lyca tasi and nem, and wait till the rng shines
Maybe when the Numisu patch kicks in :')
Oh, I think my nem charms her before the cocoon because I always run her with lyca
Can someone help me with 12-36?
I want to clear chapter 12 today and summon some graveborn heroes
Stuck on this for 4 days now any ideas?
@plucky flint
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Nemora
Nice
I wish i could go back and watch that battle again. I wasn't paying attention, looked down and that Mythic+ Saveas was dead. I have no idea how.
@pure kiln Brutus tank Skreg Tank Lucius Belinda Thane
@pale kettle i will gibt IT a try thanks
Yw
@pure kiln oof you really messed up with those ascensions imo. You should have at least one more mythic.
Nvm I cleared it
@willow moon If i Had some food š
@pure kiln u on 13-20 ?
@odd crag 13-24
Its usually shem leftover with just not enough sustain to finish the rest of.
Any tips on this?
@night gorge screen ur heroes
Shemira Brutus tank Nemora Lyca Arden
Wont silvania just kill the backline? Ill try though
Same if Silvina kill ur backlane Shemira can ultimate ?
One ult isnt enough, shem and brutus are basically the only ones doing discernible damage
Yes u neew two ultimate of Shemira for win
So nemora dies basically isntantly, while the rest piles on the bot and then comes to gangbang shem as soon as brutus falls
I need help agn
Got it after a few good rng rolls š
@loud dagger nice upgrade
Yo yo my friends. Any ideas how i can best this?
@dusky sage i Got 80k more power then you still cant beat it š
@warm mauve i just beat it
Help me plz. Pm me!
Try leveling your saveas
@blissful comet what heroes do you usually use?
@fair sky what did you use for 12-36 im stuck there
any ideas?
have you tried putting nemore in the frontline,so she can heal faster
My tip would be switching nemora and saveas
@versed canopy lucius lyca front Arden tasi saveas back
Where to use faction scrolls and exchange token?
How shld I change it? 4-24
So you should use shemira lucius and 3 wilders ig, try to go for them
@torpid stirrup
Or faweks belinda lucius shemira and 1 wilder
@torpid stirrup focus on Shem level first to 180. Brutus at L+ is useful too as am option between him and Lucius.
Best line up? Also, should I replace Saveas already?
But i mean where should i put my scrolls?
@fierce kayak saveas to 180 
Lol.. typo.. if Sav is Mythic then maybe...
Yeah maybe in afk arena 2
Hahahaha

@torpid stirrup I will go for Wilders scrolls and token for tasi.
@pale kettle chap 15
Lol..
@pale kettle can ask u?
- 181 Shemira or 161 Brutus?
- M Nemora, E+ Lyca or L+ Nemora, L+ Lyca?
@full vigil saveas lucius tasi, Arden ulmus
Hey my nara alaways die first , what Can I do ??
Probably shemira and mythic nemora @fierce kayak
Thatās what I was running doesnāt seem to work ulmus always dies in two seconds
And nara for me Always die
Thane will die too, thoran maybe could last longer but it will destroy fraction bonus
Yeah I have level 120 thoran.he IS very good @pale kettle
@full vigil what about lucius hogan mirael saveas tasi
Could try that. Iāve been running luscious Thoran Saveas Silvina and Nora just seems lackluster
@pale kettle nara Always die for me , and she can't ulti .. idk how to change that š š
@pale kettle ok tks bud
Iām stuck on 6-39 by the way
Can I beat 11-40 if so how?
Any suggestions? Stuck on a non boss stageš
@loud osprey tasi in, saveas out
Nemora/arden
Brutus
Arden/nemora
Lyca
Saveas
@fair sky
Primarily running Hogan, Brutus, Belinda Fawkes & Saveas, but thinking of switching to Brutus, Shemira, Arden, Nemora & Lyca. Only I'm worried that they're not high enough level yet to properly work (particularly Lyca and Shemira). Should I stick with my current line-up?
stuck at this stage for almost a week now
@still oar thx :)
@atomic coral brut sav arden nem khasos
Lol
@vale kraken thanks i got to 12-4 nowā¤ļø
Good stuff man
@atomic coral why u dont use shemira and Brutus they are op , especaly shemira after 161 she can carry hard
I can't get Shemira to 161 yet @warm mauve I'm 2 shemira copies short of making her mythic
Just saying hogan isnt pretty good tank
I know, he's the weak link, but taking him out does mess with my faction bonus
I do have Fawkes for CC
If ur arden cant survivr khasos axe throw, u cant win that stage
Which graveborn to go for?
I would give it a go u need cc
hmm, so far that does seem correct. I did get it down to just Saveas once with my old comp, I'll give Arden a try
Try few Times its just Luck sometimes
I only suggested khasos coz faction bonus and also, life leech for saveas
I can get to this point, and then run out of time
@atomic coral level up gear?
lol, luck was not wrong, I just got it :D (and yeah, I did level up saveas gear some more)
Uwu nice
RNG is factor sometimes :)
thanks for the advice, lucky brutus dodge helped a lot :P
how about putting in Ahtalia over Hogan? I think I can get her to Epic+ in the near future
Hmm , you need 2 tank unless u have hard CC
I'm really lacking a second front liner until I can Mythic Shemira, aren't I
Who would be my best setup for wrizz, the guild version, lucius, Sav, nemora, anthalia, and shemira?
I need another shemira to ascend her, then I'll take her past 100
@atomic coral is it pretty easy for u to get brutus?
I have L+ brutus, I can make him Mythic if I sacrifice L+ Saveas
@atomic coral what is ur vip level?
low, I'm free2play. I just closed the game, but I think it's 4 or 5
Can anyone help me š
Any tips? Thank u
Help would be appreciated thanks
Do u mind showing us ur whole list of heroes @lean trench
I'll add Belinda instead of morvus
who should i ascend? š
Hey, can Lyca be used as a front line? I could legendary her but I don't know if she fits or if she's good enough (especially as a front line)
help needed and would be appreciated
@fervent coyote Shemira is too OP you managed to get to Chapter 14... I think?
@noble flume Not a very durable tank. But replace Grezhul with Warek. He works better with Brutus. And activate a faction buff. 3+2 one. It's gonna be useful
What's my best bet here for a new team
@heady leaf Yea, I kept swaping Warek/Khasos but they literally die from 1 hit from enemy Saveas so I was looking for other options. I guess I should just wait until I level up some more
@autumn whale try switching Shemira with saveas. You need a DPS. The removal of one person is cool for Fawkes and Nemora is a good charmer, good thing you placed her in front of brutus
where to use exchange token? GB, wilder or mauler?
Could I get some help on my team
@proper hinge I'd simply go with Belinda, Lucius, Nemora, Lyca and Ulmus
@proper hinge if you get silvina to 141, then go replace with graveborns(silvina and ferael) add. Fawkes. Removal of one is cool for Fawkes. He activates faction buff as well
@torpid stirrup Depends on the heroes you're using
@heady leaf atm im using shemira, lucius. saveas, brutus fawkes
@torpid stirrup can't blame you for using Shemira, she's op and mythic. As for me, you need faction buffs and better equipment. Do you have mythic gear?
Why not sacrifice Vurk and Saveas, make Khasos legendary, then add the elite+, and enjoy with a legendary+ Khasos?
Any tips for lineup? Newbie here, about to get elite hogan
Hey , is there a problem on the Line or on my compo ? š Thanks !
Could anyone give me advice on 19-38? Stage is really tough
Can't help 0_0 never been in Chapter 19
@green hollow Id go with Ira, Estrilda, Belinda, Raine and Thane.
Estrilda would make a good tank for early game. But in late game, don't expect her to do anything
she's more of a support tank rather than a main tank
@carmine vapor Replace Hogan and Mirael with Vurk and Warek and keep saveas. And also, retire your green heroes.
Yeah. What she does is buff and cc. Is she Tasi? š¤
@idle girder
Did it with
Shemira 200 A
Lyca 172 e+
Nemora 172 m+
Brutus 200 A
Tasi 172 l
Gibraltor did it with One 200, 4 160's, only full mythic on Shemira, 3 mythic on Lyca, 2 on Tasi, 3 on Brutus, L+ every other slot.
The trick is to have Nemora steal their Arden to root their Kaz lol
If you did it you will probably stuck at 20 08
Can some one help me with chapter 7-24 and floor 93? I've been stuck here for a few days.
estrilda works well if you have a specific combo of heroes who buff other stuff
@still oar will try that out
Raine will do well with Estrilda
@still oar STEALING ARDEN THEN ROOTING KAZ. THAT TACTIC BLEW MY MIND AWAY š
sweet thanks, and should i reset my hogan and mirael or is it not worth?
@still oar it actually works.getting close to pass it
16-16 help?
Call @heady leaf or eye.
This time doesn't works. Lyca and the like can one touch my heroes. Blink and poof. For my level I need my tasi and shemira to cast their Ults in 15s. Either by rooting ogi, niru and lyca with my Arden or my nemora charms niru, niru slaps lyca and flinches her at the same time I need my tasi to blink to my shemira w/o oppo shemira ChaĆn kills my shemira and the next seconds they both should cast their ultimates. So rng. Lol
@idle girder just beat it yesterday finally. Put Nemora in Tasi slot then just keep retrying over and over. There are 2 win conditions, you need lots of RNG with charm on Kaz and roots on Arden + Kaz then second root has to hit both again.
Also lineup help for king tower 176 please
@sage lichen itās ok I passed it.the way @still oar told me
Grats!
@runic mesa
Tasi
Brutus
Nem
Shemira
Lyca
For the king tower or the level
And also officially done with chapter 19.last 2 stages were the easiest..
Stage 12-40
Any suggestions?
For the King's tower stage @runic mesa
@cyan garnet drop Estrilda's level to 147 and make Saveas 160, you need his level to be as high as possible, then try
Arden
Brutus
Tasi
Khasos
Saveas
@runic mesa get your crystal to 141, that's much more important than 1 level on your Shemira, also work on getting an Arden upgraded for your level
Itās not the xp itās the dust. But thanks for the recommendation @rugged marten
Ahh okay, well 141 grants 7 seconds to Brutus's last grasp ability and 3 targets fro Arden's root, so definitely worth investing in to get when you can š @runic mesa
@rugged marten
Worked. Thank you!!
@opal gulch here
oh wait arden is good? o.o

should stop using him as fodder then š¤£
Get him L+, then once he starts getting 1 shot constantly, you can simply swap him to a Rare Arden and it'll do exactly the same job @silk hawk
And use thr L+ one as food
Any tips for a good pvp formation tho, my saveas gets destroyed by a charm nemora or ccād by fawkes
@silk hawk whatās your pvp form now
It varies depending on the opponent but saveas as dps with lucius and skreg as tanks, then i use nemora or tasi and another dps or even both supports
Do you have a faction boost
got faction boost for lightbearer and wilders combo
@wide python
@Moutzaheadin
Did it with
Shemira 200 A
Lyca 172 e+
Nemora 172 m+
Brutus 200 A
Tasi 172 l
Gibraltor did it with One 200, 4 160's, only full mythic on Shemira, 3 mythic on Lyca, 2 on Tasi, 3 on Brutus, L+ every other slot.
The trick is to have Nemora steal their Arden to root their Kaz lol
Disregard the level it's for 19 38
@wide python keep trying and I am sure you will past with some RNG. I pass it with lower levels than you, only Brutus is L+ tho. But same as you Wilders back shem Brutus tank. G luck.
@surreal flame try not to bud
@still oar thanks a ton, it did the trick
Help 4-32
@pallid sphinx use mailers or something other than graveborns
Stuck on 4-4 :/
Get another physical attacker @normal torrent you're fairly squishy rn
@normal torrent or just afk a little and pull more.. no worries bud. Still early game ;) else just level Shemira till she max. Early game she should still be good I think
It always ends up with my saveas vs enemy saveas + mage...can't do anything
Oke me need help now
@pallid sphinx you dps aka carry should be highest level you can go. about 20 levels higher than the rest
I guess vedan or mirael
Can someone please help me with chapter 7-24, and floor 93? I been stuck here for a couple of days now.
Anything thoughts on who would be a good 5th if I have brutus, Saveas, Lucius, Belinda? Level is around 100.
he has life rejin in higher level@pallid sphinx
What formation for 11-28 š
@neat oxide shemira would be a good 5th
Ohh I have her but that would make me lose faction bonus? Is faction bonus not that strong at level 100ish?
@split cove well first off your running 4 tank classes witch is bad so have 2 tanks 1 heal and 2 dps
@neat oxide the bonus is not as important as a heal and she is op at high level.also 1 of the best in game
Awesome. Thank you for your help!
@neat oxide np
I'd appreciate any kinda help to finish this chapter š¬
@loud halo I'm not sure about that chapter but if I was you I would start thinking about making all of my legendaries my main characters that I level so that the characters you use past their Max level
need some help on this one
@lime swan aim for 3 of the same faction at least for the bonus and you need more levels to beat that
Hey , i'm blocked what Can I do ? :) Thanks !
@wintry bloom swap Numisu for Nemora, frontline Shem and charm Sav or Vurk
Any suggested lineups would be much appreciated
@green hollow aim for 3 of the same faction, it helps a lot
Okay thanks :) @rugged marten
@green hollow aim for 3 of the same faction
I tried but it not working .. š @pale kettle @rugged marten
Then level up more @green hollow
Okay np
You'll be surprised what 2-3 level can do for your team @green hollow
Any tips?
@wild gorge why you don't use shemira ?
In stuck at 12-8
I dont feel she does burst enough than Belinda. And I like to use Hendrick + lucius
@wild gorge yah shemira is like the best in the game
Yeah
Lol she is worse than my other cast dps with same gear
Looking to optimize my wrizz team. Currently running sav, vedan, lyca, estrilda, nemora. Happy to reslot crystal as needed.
@wild gorge get her pass 121 and let me know what you think
I had her 140. Trust me i tried her and i know the tier list.
i seen a 121 solo me and a lot more
@wild gorge she doesnāt start to shine till 161 is the common wisdom
Exactly. And i cant ascend her yet
What level is your shemira? Shes much better at 141+ and god at 161
Once she gets her ult off the entire enemy team drops, it takes a while to ramp up which is prob why u dont see her deal as much damage vs one big fat belinda ult
Imo belinda is only really good for burst via her ult. Shemira does a bit more consistent damage from what ive experienced
Max 140 untill i get another shemira
Depends on your team too and if you can afford to run her without breaking fac bonus. One big reason ive leaned towards saveas more than shemira
Shemira isnt too bad at 140 with the right team support from what ive tried
I run lucius shemira tasi lyca arden/nemora on my 3rd alt and its going pretty well
A big lack of fat dps via saveas spears but i really appreciate the aoe damage just chipping and burning away at everybody simultaneously once wilders cc stall long enough for shem to charge ult + lucius ult to protect whole team
This is my current. I tried so Many
Combos and managed from 11 to chaptrr 12
@wild gorge don't know if many people know this if you have her on the resonating Crystalhigh-level as the people you have as your main charactersso if all of your main characters your leveling is 160 when you add her to the thing she will be just like a 160 level
Wait why are you running safiyah instead of skmething like tasi
wutface
As you see the blue lvl 140. I know š its just on cooldown. But i tried shemira before i could lvl Up a Hero to 160
Wait why is your safiyah a higher asc and level over saveas
@wild gorge looks like you can now all of your characters are a very high level of your legendary Rarity
Tower 219.. any advice?
Cuz she does like 2x dmg than my Belinda. And a nice backline Buff/debuff.
Yes but i need a second shemira to get her to 160
After Ulmus buff that tower level is so hard
@wild gorge when you have them on the resonating Crystal it doesn't matter if they're a blue they will be the same level with all of her skills
What are u talking about zombie. I need 5 heros to 160. Before i can get the other ones in there to 160
š¤ hmm
Any suggestions on heroes to focus on? Also legendary+ arden or only legendary nemora
It always ends saveas vs. saveas+mage...
help needed and would be appreciated
@restive tangle level Up š
@wild gorge all?
@restive tangle Belinda and shemira i guess
@wild gorge so even though his Rarity does not go that high of a level he will still be a high level and have all of the skills of a level that high
@pale kettle yes i know. But i dont have any to get to legendary + to share the lvl to like shemira
@restive tangle swap raine for saveas?
@pale kettle i still need 4 legendary+ heroes
@wild gorge it look like you had 2 legendary plus already and also look like you could be able to make another one right now
@lament birch try brutus at front top and saveas at top back. golus might be stalling your saveas's damage way too much that your entire team dies and golus is still tanking everything
it's too bad you made two legendary Belinda's you could have a legendary Plus@wild gorge
and a legendary plus Hogan
Yeah 2 L Belinda is a huge mistake
The only way you can use that second Belinda is food, but you'll need another 2 Belinda to even be able to do that with her
@pale kettle yes that was noob mistake. I was very tired and thought i needed 2 legendary to make legendary+ LOL š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
Then i realized that after. And i had to take a big pile of dump of anger in the toilet
@wild gorge it happens sometimes but when you're doing the stuff you have to really pay attention and be awake
Haha yes.
@gusty stirrup take out the lamb and put in shamera
Then my tanks lose heal tho ?_?
she heals too and is more op
ok ill try it out
@gusty stirrup also I would take out the guy with the wings on his arm and replace them with fawes and have shamera in frunt
fawkes
https://imgur.com/gallery/wiFQkpQ stalling on 8-36 think it should be farther with my heroes and levels any suggestions would be great
@toxic compass Level heroes more, the silvinia will just destroy Nemora/Arden
shemira just gets destroyed instantly and lucius dies since he gets no heal
@gusty stirrup this is what I'm running and it got me very far all the way to 8-20 without any problems wish I had a Samira to replace the horse person
@muted cairn thanks I appreciate it
Is henrik worth building for a lighbearer lineup, or is lucius/brutus a stronger matchup?
@pale kettle use kaz maybe? To dps backline
I tried brutus.lucius lineup and lucius.hendrik lineup and hendrick.brutus setup. Hendrick Carried me 2-3 chapters. Brutus starts to Shine at 141 and Up. Hendrick got MAD CC. He stuns All the time and can prevent a boss to do anything for a whole fight. Hendrick should not be underestimaded. @median nexus now i run lucius and Hendrick. Since i have No Brutus at 141 and i get 3x lightbearer Buff. I felt unkillable for a whole bunch of chapters and i could manage through a peaks of time focusing on lightbearers. ;) Try It. IT doesnt Hurt experimenting. Im pretty far Vs my overall Hero lvl. But yes. Get a Hendrick for situations
Alright. If I can scrounge up some copies of him looks like Iāll be in business
I would still run Brutus. Lucius if i were a the higher level Range. Of end game. But Also according to tier list. Hendrick is S rank too
@warm mauve managed to pass it already but thanks i guess for the tip
#lineup-help me plz Iām stuck
Best Line up?
Good morning everyone! I have Brutus and have enough lab tokens to purchase shemira or nemora, any ideas on which to get...any input is much appreciated
@autumn cosmos who else do you have?
Help with 15-12!
okay so I did a lot of research and the most Op characters that are endgame are Belinda, lucius , brutus, shemira, tasi, lyca, vurk, thane, namora, kaz and athalia! it's up to you how you want to put them together but that's what I know are the best endgame !
I can't get a cc hero to save my life
@autumn cosmos Arden is a cc hero
Yea, I had a full damage lineup for 9-20 that didn't work very well. So I swapped out two for Lyca and Tasi (both were still at elite so ascension didn't matter) and I beat it within 5 tries.
Arden has a significant amount of CC that can really help in the stage
Show your full roster
yea, go to heroes and send that instead of scrolling line by line
So what can I do with this
Lyca
Iād try some combo of sav brutus arden lyca and either eironn or safiya. Sav behind Brutus, lyca on front line
Ok
@plucky flint okay so I did a lot of research and the most Op characters that are endgame are Belinda, lucius , brutus, shemira, tasi, lyca, vurk, thane, namora, kaz and athalia! it's up to you how you want to put them together but that's what I know are the best endgame !
@pale kettle ? What is this in reference to?
the best in the game
Pretty sure that by the time you get to endgame, team comps/synergy starts to become a lot more important. So who is āOPā will really depend on who you luck into pulling enough copies of to ascend and what teams you can create where what you have complements each other
aside from brutus.. brutus is always the answer
(And athalia and shemira)
@night gorge look agin
i stand corrected!
id agree generally, but as was already pointed out thats probably end endgame pvp.
@night gorge me personal i think the best pvp, pve end game is Belinda, lucius , brutus, shemira and athalia!
Anyone perhaps help me with my team?
pve is a different game oftentimes

I'm currently running Luciius (Mythic), Estrila (L+), Shemira (M), Belinda (L+), and Saveas (L+). Is it worth switching to either Isabella (L+, for the Full House Bonus) or Numisu (Mythic)?
I felt that ^ššš
@old shadow screen your box that will be easier for see all oppurtinities
me plz Iām stuck
@olive thorn @blissful gust you should read her level 4 skills!
i read so what ?
i trust @olive thorn 's judgement about heroes. got me through quite a few pve nodes

I mean her skills wont mean anything if she gets nuked
imo at this game u really can't say who is good and who is not good just on looking the skills
u really need to test before saying anything
or looking for advanced players in pvp if u speak about pvp
at this case, i don't see any belinda carrying in pvp
sure see a lot of shem and brutus though
i stuck on 11-28 any help what should i try? or no chance rn?
Shem is nearly immortal if you build her right
imo your best way with this kit is to play without bonus @old shadow
show me your actual enemies in pve
i'll give u a placement for an exemple
@olive thorn @blissful gust me personal i think the best pvp, pve end game is Belinda, lucius , brutus, shemira and athalia!
and u are false
Youāre stuck on 11-28 with a 3star acesnded, I have one mythic and stuck on 13-39
sorry you feel that way
I'm really more worried about peaks of time than pve
isnt peaks pve as well?
stuck on 11-28
Iām stuck on the divine realm in pot, I know what to do itās just I donāt have the heroes for it
Yeah, but it's like... Not about beating one specific team
Iām on 11-24 with this roster... im sure you can figure 11-28 out with yours
Can you explain why? Like what makes that work?
try it and i'll explain u why it's working if it work
@plucky flint it was not hard until this 11-28 but now i loose instant 3-4 secs and everything is dead
Any help on 10-8 pls?
y agree with these placement, u'll just need some lvl imo @hasty night
Yea I'm slowly grinding like 1 sav level a day
But when the new hypogean is out I'll roll 20 and maybe I can get some mats to boost Brutus to be a bit more tanky
how can I beat this one?
@olive thorn @blissful gust you might know some what what you're talking about but I've only been playing three days and made it to 8-20 without any problems and without spending any money on the game I only commented in here to try and help people if you think my opinion is false then don't listen to it
@pale kettle u can't say things for people if u are not sure about it, that will not help them if u are wrong
Wtf 8-20 in 3 days, no money. Jesus, must be the biggest luksac in the worl
@olive thorn thanks man i dont know how but it worked š® can u explain me so i can learn todo that for myself? š
Im probably underlevelled right now but any thoughts on lineup here? Full roster posted above a bit
"don't listen me" wtf okay everyone pls do your runs with playing dreaf team it's op believe on me, if u disagree don't listen me !
@pale kettle youāve only been playing 3 days and youāre saying whats best endgame?

@gray bone saveas is a really hard carry so if u charm him with your nemora u will gain a lot of dps on enemy team
@olive thorn @blissful gust like i said i did mo. of research before I started the game of people they've been playing it since it came out
what
If you admit inexperience then you shouldnt have a problem accepting an experienced players opinion imo. Nothing wrong with wanting to give advice and im sure its appreciated but gotta admit when someone has more ground to stand on.
That being said he was trying to give advice and thats a positive thing so lets not pile on here.
golus is really slow tank so u can put a hero like tasi front to him, cause she have time to replace before he will deal more damage
lucius is not really hard tank early, so if u have opportunity to put him on back lane early u will save him some time for shielding
and saveas is the best early dps that's why i putted him
did u understand all ?
yeah nice didnt thinked on the nemora charm that this change it so much ^^
Thanks for the tips i try around with it @olive thorn
@tired agate try to swap lyca and khasos, your shem can't face front akhasos
u welcome, gl on grinding š
Not sure what to change up, have tried a few variations
show me all your box
first as usual against silv, lower defense of belinda, u did it ?
yes silv jumps on belinda
ok so try this placement
Belinda
Brutus
Lucius
Shem
Arden
u don't have any lyca mate ?
i can't see it
@olive thorn Lyca and khasos?
@pale kettle like you, im pretty new, but I'm pretty sure that late game in any gamemode in afkarena is all about crowd control. Big damage dealers like Belinda are worthless if they die in seconds.
no lyca, she never dropped for me sadly.
With this setup lucius and shem die before they can ult.
okok thx
interesting, without lyca that will be prob hard to put shem front
let's try an other thing
ironically arden is last man standing ^^'
@night gorge if you switch out the wiz for athalia it would give you a faction bonus
Arden so short all the bullets fly over him š
Hey dolly, how does Fawkes do as a damage dealer? I know his main role is anti Brutus and Lucius, but he has damage boost passive....so is he an alright DPS?
not that bad but not that good
@pale kettle tried that but ath dies instantly atm, will have her leg soon then shell probably be more use.
@olive thorn works better, shem survives till the end but cant carry. Gets off 1 ult and thats it. Lucius dies before doing anything
So hes won't be a detriment to the team
it's like lyca, u don't play him for damage but he can do some additional damage
maybe without lyca i just have to power up a bit for this node
yeah w/ lyca instead of lucius that will be really easier but unlucky
try to swap brutus and lucius but tbh imo that will be weaker
fawkes mane use is to get one of the people out of the picture so it's 6 vs 5 in your faver@hasty night
and arden is just mendatory on him comp he can't kick him
I...dont think zombieice knows what hes talking about
works a little better since lucius sometimes gets off an ult which stalls enough for shem to do some damage, but still not enough
6v5 
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Tasi has a similar ability to Fawkes coffin, her banish, but people use her mainly for her aoe sleep, the banish is a nice addition. Fawkes is used for his debuff wave, the coffin is a nice add on. If people didnt need the wave, they would use Tasi lol
Or faction bonus I guess
tasi is really more use than fawkes for 3 reasons
the one, u are true, it's for faction bonus
the second is the tasi ult, it's an other control
the third is tasi replace, skill permit to tasi to dodge a lot of damages
sometimes shem almost comes through, definitely the best version so far. Will try to run it some more and just power up naturally.
u forgot reason 4, shes cuter
gl mate š
U forgot reason 5, she an anime girl
it worked thanks

@tired agate š
now Iām stuck on 15-32 lol
joue ta shem en front uniquement quand c'estr du low damage de son cotƩ

c'est pas un trĆØs bon tank globalement
@olive thorn Any suggestion on a wrizz lineup for me? Been using sav, vedan, lyca, estrilda, nemora
elle peut être placée front uniquement si elle a le temps de sustain
@plucky flint probably put belinda and mirael on your cristal and play mirael belinda estrilda saveas nemora imo
faction weakness works aswell against wrizz
@olive thorn thx will do. Appreciate all your advice btw, I learn a lot from you
š
Du coup comment je pourrais battre celui la?
Ik kaz good against labyrinth wrizz, but what about regular wrizz?
@pale kettle np sry for late reply
kaz is good for lab only cause u take poison relic
Oof
without she's not a good choice
@tired agate là c'est une silvina c'est légèrement différent à gérer
Wait does the poison relic and the poison kaz relic stack and make it even better
yeah but poison relic don't do a lot of damage
just kaz relic is efficient for ruining wrizz on lab
essaie Ƨa dango
Arden
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Ok ty, ran my first lab wrizz yesterday and got destroyed. But remember I could have recruited a kaz and the kaz relic on the way there
il te faut moins de dƩfense sur ta nem
j'vais essayer merci
j'vois l'idƩe
comparé à l'arden
pour que silvina dash dessus
yeah without this relic it's wrizz is unbeattable for me to ahah
but my wrizz is lvl 34x so... oof
ah c'est pas important silvina saute dƩja sur elle
I see the 3 rewards by it, if we win do we get to choose 1 of the 3? Also, is wrizz appearance guaranteed in hard lab?
oh ic ty
@old shadow is this worked ?
d'ailleurs je peux maxer mon gear mythique ou pas vu qu'ils ont ajoutƩ un moyen de les passer en M+?
parce que pour l'instant le 15-32 me semble trop dur
Stuck at 9-20 can someone help me out
yes c'est même recommandé de le faire
je suis amy
c'est quoi les piĆØces les plus importante Ć max, pour l'instant j'ai arme+bottes sur brutus et arme+chapeau sur shemira
sachant que seules les bottes de brutus ont le bon bonus de faction
ok merci
l'arme pour shem faut les dƩgats
pour brutus vaut mieux les hp
ah oui
focus le bonus de faction en first
How to deal with that stage? The two at the bottom kick my butt super hard. Itās 100 btw
@pale kettle yah im stuck on same
Please help
@lapis sand if you acend it right you can make L+ hogan and L blenda right now
but why would u want a L+ hogan
food for later and to have as the main leveling person to make the better characters in The resonating Crystal high level
Any suggestion for pass this level ?
Iām getting annihilated here. Any suggestions?
@plucky flint have you try switching the wiz for nemora?
or maby switch sav for the heal
heals go a long way with brutus
This is where i am stuck... Can't get past it. Any ideas?
@pale kettle fawkes for the win! Thank you š
@drowsy trellis np
@pale kettle no, i meant in that specific level. With 3 graveborn a subpar tank like hogan wont do anything. Also, he doesnt need an L+ fodder rn when he only has a single L, and its in a different faction. Neither does the resonating crystal thing apply cuz his levels arent maxed
Anything I should ascend outta those? Currently at 10-4
Thoughts?
jesus patsy just write something already!!! xD
@pale kettle taking out sav is a total nonstarter. Heās my carry. Any combo of the wilders in the other 4 slots are just getting ripped through. I def need more levels but still trying to find the lineup that makes most sense
you been at it for ages š
@night gorge lol. I had written something earlier then deleted it
hows your vedan holding up in that fight @plucky flint ?
Breaks my aura and donāt know who Iād put him in for
but have you tried him? hes got the sweet faction advantage
Stuck at 11-20 thoughts? Thinking about getting legendary Belinda or swtiching to lightbearer setup
@frank cosmos I just cleared that. Sav behind Brutus at bottom. Lyca front line up top. Tasi opposite mirael, Arden in middle. It took a lot of tries
Just tried, feels like i have tried every different combo. Team dies in seconds
Key is tasi + Brutus both need to survive till her first ultimate, and even then itās not guaranteed. Took a lot of luck.
What level is your party? @plucky flint
Any ideas?
@frank cosmos try
brut tasi
arden lyca sav
@frank cosmos my sav is 140 everyone else was 124
I could drop sav to 141, and level the rest a bit
Do you have the dust to bring your floor above 120? If so, I think thatās probably the difference
Tasi and Atden are only Elite + so not does, i really want arden at 141 for the 3 roots
You have five L heroes which is all you need to raise your floor. But if your crystal is full, youāll have to wait a day after resetting tasi and nemora to get them in your crystal
Yeah i was thinking that route aswell, but keeping it as it is for now since new wilder here dropping next week, so saving currency for all out wilder heros. So hoping to get Tasi and Nemora or Arden to atleast legendary
@frank cosmos I see. Well, good luck. Iād consider resetting if you open any new crystal spots
Current line up any suggestions?
what would you guys recommend for me stuck8-20
Seveas does somepretty gnarly dps afaik
i tryed sav he died right away even at 100
Brutus for hogan saveas for Esmeralda khasos for belinda ?
Basically try to avoid all lightbearer against graveborn
@topaz wadi i got walk all over in sec
Trying to determine best course of action here. I have that fodder L+ Morvus. But the conundrum is, who to sac him to?
Hey all, Iāve been stuck on 10-32 for three days now. Any suggestions? Thank you!
I'd try at least throwing Lucius and Belinda in there somewhere, lucius' heal would help and Belinda's ult could help burn down that Saveas.
Thanks. Iām waiting for enough fodder to get my Saveas to L+, but havenāt been lucky.
I need help!!
@sand rune try athila in middle to push saveas into your side. if arden dies instantly try to replace him with lucius
@fresh star lyca and brutus frontline shemira tasi nemora backline
@fresh star front shemira Brutus back tasi nemora and Lyca. Try the charm fareal strategy
@fresh star try playing with shemira in frontline, or maybe behind a lyca. combo with tasi, brutus and arden, or maybe nemora
Yeah he is crazy strong and shemira silence is super annoying
im at the same stage + my shemira ult only does 1/2 of their hp. tasi doesnt survive yet
Brutus shemira Lyca tasi nemora/Arden has carried me through to chapter 20. Sometimes shemira behind Lyca she just has to get her haste off
@ashen dew thanks. Iāve been experimenting with Athalia for this level, seems like a decent way to go.
I have a couple questions: Should I ascend tasi or nemora to mythic? i use tasi in every stage but not every one needs nemora. granted i can get more copies of nemora later easily though. Also, at chapter 15-40, should i feed saveas into my brutus to get brutus to M? my levels are 180 shemira, 160 brutus, 144 rest
What is my strongest lineup ? I'm at ch10-7
@wind shoal better focus tasi, nem is used as a bait for silvina in a lot of situation, if u ascend her u will not be able to use her at bet anymore
@tacit zephyr don't let your vedan tank this saveas imo, your objective si to tempo when both lucius and saveas work
so try it
Arden
Hogan
Lucius
Vedan
Saveas
@glossy rune Saveas Estrilda Brutus Belinda Mirael imo, replace mirael by arden when u get 141 on arden
Looking for help with my lineup Iām still new thank you
@cloud ermine u can ascend a mirael to e+ then play it
Saveas mirael Belinda Hogan Estrilda
focus your ascends on mireal and saveas
and prepare a leg+ arden as fast as possible
without food the ascend tier heroes
all of them will be use ase fooders later but they are really strong units for early
So this is what I have now how would I place them I know hogan would be more tanks so front line but the others seems squishy
Stuck on 14-38. Any ideas??
@pale kettle shemira brutus up front. lyca tasi arden back. put the crit gives haste item on arden and he will root the enemy arden
@pale kettle if shemira dies too fast put her top left behind lyca
What about 14-40? šš @wind shoal
lyca frontline and shemira behind her go vs estrilda whenever you see her. so
shemira
lyca
arden/tasi
brutus
arden/tasi
basically tasi needs to survive, arden has to get roots off, and shemira wants to generate ult asap so if she can tank she should. shemira also wants to avoid being cc'ed
@wind shoal youāre my hero š any tips for chapter 15? š
same tips should get you to 15-32, 38 or 40 depending how many tries you give it. 15-40 may be a wall for some time
sometimes nemora might be able to charm a single enemy and that can be better than arden (or maybe even lyca)
Sweeeet, it feels good to actually progress lol
stick with that team, ocasionally athalia too
I'm stuck any help?
Good Lord 9-20 kicking my ass
9-20 took me a while
@near crane you just need mythic shemira, can you get her soon?
Yeah need one more epic to make her leg + and should be able to mystic
I've got them down to top two with
Safiya
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Savass
Any suggestions? Stage 15-16
@lament matrix scroll up ~10 lines for my advice to jwill
likely move tasi topside at the back to avoid being one-shot by khasos
Can you look at mine?
@autumn cosmos Stop leveling up your other heroes and continue to overlvl Saveas. Saveas at 140 will help rid of problems like that Numisu. In terms of what you could try in this lvl at the moment, I would go for something like this
Saveas
Brutus
Fawkes (Tasi would be much better)
Lyca
Arden
The factional advantage would be gone, but early on it doesnāt quite make that much of a difference.
@autumn cosmos I found that a key to beating that stage is killing Numisu as fast as possible.Numisuās self-healing is a pain so getting rid of him early is best. It also helps that Isabella is right behind him , helping you kill the main dps of the squad.
Would an L estrilda or an e Lucius be better in that PvP comp? Both at lv 120
Ok thank you
@hasty night I found that Shemira at these lower stages canāt handle being in the frontline yet. A better balanced team that makes use of the factional advantage is something like:
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Tasi
@violet osprey I would say that you are in a weird island with Shemira at the moment. Getting her to Mythic and getting her to lvl 161 is definitely the move. Lvl. 161 makes her sustainability with an upgrade to her ult. If you wouldnāt mind, could you send a screenshot of the stage you are stuck on?
Whatās the best I can do with this early mess? Swap Hendrik for Warek? Do I swap in Belinda for someone?
Any suggestions for 22-44?
@still path
@violet osprey Itās a little hard when you donāt have Brutus though. Try this weird lineup I just thought of. Also, get Arden to at least Elite if you can.
Arden
Thoran
Tasi
Lyca
Shemira
Got it. Thanks a bunch
I just recently acquired Athalia how should I set this up now? Iām pretty sure sheās one of the more OP heroes
@sly swan
Just little tips:
- Focus on Saveas. I typically like to go by the main dps should be at least 20 lvls ahead of the rest of the squad.
- Donāt use Shemira so early on in the game.
- Focus on using having some sort of factional advantage in your teams.
-Swap Shemira out for Silvina. Wait for more pulls so that you could decide on who to keep on the resonating crystal.
@cloud ermine I like the way that your main 5 are set up so far. Also, great way to really get the most out of Saveas by overlvling him. Athalia, unless high in ascension tiers, is only used for certain enemies and situations where either Silvina is present or Arden.
Thank you š Iāll keep that in mind @still path
@runic mesa Your team is looking really nice! I would definitely try to get Arden up to at least an Elite. I would try this team with what you have at the moment.
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
That team wonāt work I donāt think but Iāll try. The problem is tasi gets one shot by Silvina if I donāt put Arden as bait
Who is the best to spend challeneger coins on?
My lineup is all mythic and I only have one purple of each legendary
Helpppp 4-32
@pallid sphinx Only advice i could really give for such an early stage is to switch Mirael for Arden. I would also stick with the theme of keeping Vedan 20 lvls ahead of everyone else.
@still path Shem has been doing fine, but I guess I can try your suggestion
Can someone help me with wrizz in the lab? I already tried a lot of things but nothing worked...
Help 4-36
Help 4-32
8-16 help me
changed my format and got through š
What should I do from here
@still path thanks for some feedback.. about Silv.. I just fed her to Shem to get him to Legendary.. š Wondering who I can get for the faction balance you suggest.
Any advice for 9-20 or just keep leveling? I tried the CC route but they're mostly just E so seems like they die too fast
@sly swan Not silvina š. But in all honestly, its alright. Could you resend your heroes again?
Best comp for me right now?
@humble skiff Do not sleep on the wilder trio. Even at Elite, they can do a lot of work. I do think that your Saveas could use some lvls and I suggest getting him to lvl 140 before lvling anyone else. I gave someone a similar squad and they said it worked.
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Lyca
Arden/Nemora
@still path
@sly swan I think some of the things I said before helps here. In the long run, I would still focus on overlvling Saveas and keeping him 20 lvls ahead.
A team composition of 3 of the same faction and two other faction typically works. So in your case, i would use Saveas, Hendrik, Hogan, Estrilda, and Shemira.
@still path u on 18-20?
Later on though, I would choose between Saveas or Shemira and surround one of them with good CC heroes and Stall.
@red patio Yes, this stage is quite hellish.
@still path ok, thanks. Also wondering how long I should hold off on buying gear, or if I should just save and save for later. (only think I've bought besides summons is Shem)
@still path How should I beat 4-32? Should I put shem in for someone?
@sly swan If you mean buying gear with the use of diamonds, NEVER. I hear a lot of people argue that buying Mythic gear is useful, and it can be, but diamonds for summons/elite soulstones are the only good uses for it. Also NEVER use gold to buy gear either.
If you are referencing the guild store, if you have the patience, wait until you have unlocked Mythic gear.
@red patio Do you remember the exact placement of these characters? I use the same team but still cant seem to break through.
yeah 1 brutus 2 shem 3 arden 4 lyca 5 tasi
@still path that's what I was wondering, I assumed never diamonds
and I'll wait... š also, will have to wait on Estrilda until I have gear for her, but will swap then
@carmine vapor Warek is completely destroying your team for you there. Warekās ability to throw his enemies back makes Nemora an easy target. Iād say to switch Seirus and Warekās placement. In early parts of the game like this, levels are the name of the game.
How can I brute force this, Any advice ?
@jovial oyster That stage seems like a very common question spot. Could you send me a screenshot of your heroes?
@still path alright I switched them, so Im guessing that shemira has no place in the team for now? will try to level up heroes in order to brute force this. Any recommendations on which hero to focus on?
It is 16-20 yeah, Iām stuck for a while now
@carmine vapor I think Shemira does have some use considering she is an elite but Saveas really outshines her most of the time during the early stages. Saveas! I canāt stress enough how important Saveas is to a team early on.
@still path Alright I will try to get more copies of saveas ASAP and focus on upping him, thanks a lot for the tip!
@still path so I guess I fell into the "end game" trap of Shem, and focused Shem way too early?
@jovial oyster Your team is very good and honestly set to push through to Chapter 18. Team that might work:
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora/Arden.
Oof thanks guess ill need to get more Brutus to ascend him, heās an absolute unit
@carmine vapor No problem! Donāt be afraid to @ later on if you ever need more help.
@sly swan Donāt worry, i fell for the āShemira will carryā mentality early on. Saveas is an easy hero to ascend so it shouldnāt be a problem for you to catch him up to Shemira.
@still path alright, Sav is my focus.. š
Stuck. Ideas?
Does anyone have an idea to beat this rn?
Iād replace Belinda with tasi
Ok
11-36 is beating me harder than a drunk dad, any help?
how much dust needed for 161? @prime vapor
I just need exp , I got 13k dust
probably just wait for the xp then
Anyone have any idea on what to do for mine?
@open mural
you're pretty close, but after 12-2 you can start to buy mythic gear easier which makes life so much easier going forward
Iām impossibly stuck on 16-20 as well
16-20 had me for a while, show your team maybe? @runic mesa
Have to put Arden in there to bait Silvina. Stand no chance without tasi ult and she gets one shot by silv
Shemira has gotten realllly close a few times but she cannot 1v1 vedan he wins every time
I see we re all meta abuser lol, great
you should be leveling evenly if you can't get nemora up to 161, first of all. I used
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
The thing is with that lineup tasi gets one shot. Someone suggested that earlier
grace and better gear on tasi maybe? or keep shem on the bottom front arden on the top back
š That stage is all about luck.
Vedan May or may not have caused me to throw my phone a few times. That stage is CANCER
yeah i had to M+ my shem to get passed it
Help with 15-12 please
Any help?
Maybe level yourself up a bit? You look severely under leveled to me but that might just be my noobness kicking in (joined not even a week ago)
@ebon ridge Yes, underlevelled. At the very least get Brutus to higher or equal to the opponents, I passed it with the same team except Grezhul instead of Shemira. Better if you can get the back to 160 all as well, but you might be able to finish. Replace Tasi with Nemora and repeat until you charm Ferael.
@sly cobalt How long does Warek and Brutus survive for you? Who does Silvina target first, is it Numisu and then Belinda?
You look very underlevelled too, honestly
Warek and Brutus last for 20 sec and silvina targets numisu first then Belinda
@sly cobalt 20 is long enough..
Warek Brutus front
Fawkes Belinda Raine back
Warek Brutus front
Shemira Vedan/Silvina Ferael (3-2 team bonus)/Fawkes (cc, no bonus) back
Work on Arden, Saveas will greatly benefit you if you plan to use Brutus and Warek.
@proud pelican I passed that with Shemira and Brutus in front, Lyca Arden and Nemora at the back. Nemora behind Shemira so she charms the enemy Kaz to kill the enemy Arden/Lyca asap. Also all my heroes were 200 then, except Arden.
@pale rover thanks š
You're welcome!
Been stuck on this level for awhile
@pale kettle Hero list?
@pale kettle Honestly your team formation seems pretty okay to me. Probably just a bit of a gear issue, have you upgraded them? If yes..
Try placing them like this:
Hogan bottom, Hendrik top front
Saveas top, Belinda/Mirael middle, Arden bottom
@pale rover thanks I've been on that level for awhile
@pale kettle You can totally do it, it's just gear or ascensions. You've levelled them well. Good luck, try moving them around and see what works best
Ok
Any1 got ideas that helped them pass 16-40?
@slate mason I passed that with my backline also having a Lyca and an Arden. He'll have an advantage over your team because of Lyca's haste, you'll be rooted and hit before you can attack. I also had a Nemora to charm the enemy Ogi into throwing and damaging whoever was behind him instead of me.
Guess i should probably work on getting my arden back after using him as fodder 50 times lol
Really struggling in 11-40 suggestionsm
Need some pve line up help
U can try Hogan and athalia on front, tasi, nemora and sav on back @olive panther
I'm stuck on this level now
Try to switch arden for sav tbh
@pale kettle Hey there friend ^^
Swap Arden for Saveas and give it another shot, it should be a relatively easy clear.
If that doesn't work but your Hogan survives long enough, place Numisu on Arden's position
And switch saveas and miraels place @pale kettle
@faint quest @wise merlin thanks
Welcome! Best of luck to you 
Any lineup advice for this one?
Tired Saveas upfront? (Instead of Lyca)
Also try to Arden as well .
You gonna need some luck with charm on Saveas and the right root
@pale rover do i need to wait out?
@crisp coral luck is the only way I made it this far. I try to find the one lineup combo that might possibly work then just brute force my way through. Good tip on sav up front. Donāt know if itāll work, but people are generally staying alive long enough to do stuff
@plucky flint try 121 others and 160 saveas if you want luck. Luck is only applicable if u have 1 overlevel hero
What do you guys think?
They just wreck me... Shemira barely gets to ult and when she does everyone already dead so they wipe her /:
@dark tundra I need dust. So unless I want to put half my team at 120, I canāt raise sav
@plucky flint then try it 120 or wait
Can u switch Lyca and shemiras place and switch brutus and Lycas place? @crisp coral
@dark tundra not sure what you mean about luck only applying to overleveled carry hero teams. I find cc to be tremendously luck based.
What tf exactly is "cc"?
@faint quest why? Lyca will basically gets one hit won't she?
Crowd control.
Crowd control
All i know is "crowd control" but wtf is crowd control
current team, Lucius and Hogan are both Elite+, I just pulled Fawkes and I want him in the team. If I want the 3 lightbearer faction boost, who do I replace?
@faint quest someone can change theway of the game like nemora charming enemy to be an ally and Arden that can stop 3 enemies in split of sec
disable skills
@faint quest heroes that have utility that arenāt strictly dealing direct damage. So any ability that stuns or slows or charms or generally ācontrolsā the other team
Ohhh so like the enemies to basically not damage your heroes for a period of time due to ur heroes stalling them and what not?
@faint quest yes.
current team, Lucius and Hogan are both Elite+, I just pulled Fawkes and I want him in the team. If I want the 3 lightbearer faction boost, who do I replace?
Mk thx
Maybe Hogan tbh but that team looks pretty fine to me just switch shems and hogans place @signal glen
oh yea its normally like that
Then yea if i were u i dont think id use fawkes for now since Hogan and lucius are pretty good Tanks and u already got tasi
howd u beat this level with those hero levels? thinking was cause of that 141 arden? @crisp coral
@faint quest u need a bait there to silvina and after silvina eats your bait be sure silvina next target is Brutus so your shemira can buy time to ult
@faint quest probably. And not sure how well geared your Shemira is.
Also some rng with silvinia ult brutus
Yep ive been trying to figure that out but rng is being a B and just never works when i bait Silvia either way
Tasi is the good bait there maybe she can still live
She has, i mostly keep dying due to vedans regenerating ult and isabellas ult
Your Arden can hold vedan there u just need a good rng
Yea realllly good rng
And is it better to keep tasi with duras call or place it on shem?


