#lineup-help
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@edgy seal Lucius 1 saveas 2
So quiet no one needs help I need to farm them ranks
@viscid hazel I moved Dura's Grace to Belinda and was able to barely get it. Thank you!
@wintry bough it was a pleasure to guide u adventurer 
@viscid hazel think I’ll have to forfeit this one lol he’s to overwhelming 😂 Thx anyway
Been stuck on this. Any help? Pm me
@edgy seal ooof Unlucky consider not always running hard mode cause labyrinth 3rd floor is essential to get copies of shemira. Is sometimes skip hard mode as well depends on the artifacts I get
can anybody offer help on 11-40? i think i’m close but can’t find the right lineup
Could use help. Been stuck on tower and campaign for a while now. Campaign 9-20 (DM if you have suggestions)
@restive tangle gb are strong vs wilders and Athalia on vedan is a waste.
Try
Atahlia
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
@viscid hazel i can defeat him, But need to waste 2 duras tear, worth it?
There you go, i can'r focus on their carry because they had 3 carries, and my shem isn't 161, so i can't had enough DPS to hit all of them at once @viscid hazel
@scarlet plank all those saveas users....
How about
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Tasi
Do you have lyca switch her out for Nemora
@delicate trout seems bearable tho
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Any mauler, khasos?
@viscid hazel i don’t have Lyca... but i’ll give that lineup a shot. i just did some pulls and got my Tasi to leg+ so may have some better luck now
Super stuck. Need help
@viscid hazel no khasos, the only maulers i had left is warek, is warek ok?
@burnt knot try this
Sav
Lyca
Nem
Brutus
Arden
Any suggestions to get me unstuck?
@delicate trout try it For faction bonus
Ok i'll try it
hi i’m new, any words will be extremely appreciated. thanks ❤
@hasty fjord same lvls seems beatable one sec
Ok
@hasty fjord your saveas is not 120 which makes ur crystal heroes not too great focus on leveling him to 120 so you have wider line up to swap around. My suggested line up would be
Ira
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Lyca
I am focusing on getting him to 120 right now that is where all my points are going now
I literally just got him the other day
@swift hound starting line up with shemira and Lucius is great
Go for a line up like this
Shemira
Lucius
Mirael
Hogan
Estrilda
Using mirael instead of saveas benefits ur line up more early game cause of faction buff
Just getting wiped, i also have Ezizh, Eironn, Nara and Golus (hes e+)
@hasty fjord I wouldnt go too hard on him with ascending and stuff since u already have shemira and u are reaching the max lvl for saveas. I would stick to shemira as your carry. I never played with saveas I started with lab store epic shemira and she’s solo carrying me since 😃
Soryy for bad photo attachment
I dont plan on ascending him much after this I know he will fall off for me soon. But shemira has carried Me since I got her as my first summon. I need 1 more shemira and I will have her legendary+
@viscid hazel awesome thanks, would i also go for nemora from lab shop? and if so, who should i replace? Thanks.
Literally my first pull when I bought the game and instantly leveled her when I got enough lab points. I am at about 30k lab points now to get another shemira to legend+ her. Suoer excited.
@hasty fjord I’m not too sure what the question was but it sounds like you’re debating between savaes and shemira.. shemira is not really a carry until 161+, she dies too quickly before then. I would recommend using savaes before then
@swift hound meh ppl keep telling me they wanna buy Nemora from lab store don’t get me wrong she’s great but for ascended shemira u need 2 for epic + fodder to l+ u need another 2 and from mythic + to ascended u need 4 which makes total of 8 for ascended and she’s a solo carry other than Nemora
Any ideas ??
@scarlet kraken 161 is huge for her she’s great beforehand tho
@viscid hazel it’s all opinion , I used both savaes and shemira before 161 and savaes is a much better carry before then imo
My team is Gold Tasi, elite + grezhul, elite + Isabella, thoran, and lyca and the other elites I have worth mentioning is elite + vurk, Nemora, Ezizh, and thane should I change it up
Any heeelp
@viscid hazel okay so are you saying that i should look into buying other shemiras to stock up for ascending
@scarlet kraken ya you got a point depends on the rest of line up also. I was running 4gb and Athalia which pretty much made my shemira shine

@swift hound ya because u get a guaranteed way from lab store to have a solo carry
alright, i didnt know if it was a concern that i didnt have a healer on my team.
@viscid hazel shemira is still a god tho and I’d recommend for anyone who can level her. She carries me now
11-24 help pls, Lightbearers too strong
Pls help
@swift hound Standard mid late game formation lyca Tasi Arden Brutus shemira has no healer, I use Nemora once on 20 stages for Arden but his cc is better if power difference gets to huge when u push to much 
@scarlet kraken that wasnt the debate. Thank you though.
@viscid hazel I tried your recommendation and it got me closer but without the levels, I feel i wont be able to get past that level with that lineup recommended.
@vocal saddle sorry Brother i don’t see a way to beat this with ur heroes propably grind some lvls
@vocal saddle try safiya instead of nemora
@hasty fjord wait till tmrw I’ll get saveas to 120 and ur crystal heroes will also be there and you will beat it pretty sure
Well @vocal saddle if you use Safiya you might want to also swap Athalia in which makes 4 maulers + Arden not sure tho
I doubt tomorrow's afk bonus will be able to get him to 120 lol. But I will wait. I am sure this team will work when it is leveled properly. Thank you @viscid hazel
@viscid hazel i switched in mirael for my saveas and i beat it, thx.
Best lineup?
@viscid hazel @scarlet kraken thanks ill try out the options
HELLLLPPPPP Lolol
@swift hound ooof im having a good day I guess. Gratz on progressing adventurer 
@tough salmon try
Ira
Shemira
Kaz
Seirus
Saveas
@tough salmon nvm I meant Nemora not kaz
Still fucked up, i really need a M heroes haha
But u can also try 4 wilders with kaz for saveas then
Worth sacrificing an Ulmus and Seirus to get an L+ Arden
@burnt knot don't
@burnt knot no don’t use ascended heroes for legendary ones
Getting all the wrong heroes, can't ascend anything cos theyre all ascended :/ How good is Mythic Belinda? Could sacrifice a Hogan for her but then would lose my3/2 faction bonus
I mean Arden is useful till 180 something but afterwards you’ll regret it
Best lineup? What should i focus on leveling up?
And i have buddy who use ulmus as his main tank, he was very balanced hero, damage, cc and healer
Bout to hit 101 on my lowest crystal. What’s the ideal lineup here? Also, who should get grace and who should get eye?
@sly swallow for now I guess mirael Lucius estrilda Brutus last one is up to you. Definitely look for shemira in lab store tho
Got some new things going on now that I didn’t have before and I just need opinions/suggestions 😅 I have room for three in the crystal.
@viscid hazel ty
Any lineup recommendations?
@plucky flint u can’t go suicide wilders vs Niru try Brutus for Nemora
Any tips? Been stuck for a few days
@viscid hazel yeah my Brutus gets creamed so fast any line up I put him in. I’ll try him again once I can get him over 100.
@stark oriole use 3-2 faction bonuses, replace that shem with saveas, and arden with fawkes, and put belinda in the middle, shemira is good, but if she wasn't 161 yet, i wouldn't recommend it, faction bonuses is matter
@stark oriole my tip is faction bonus maybe try
Fawkes / rain if her ult is of any use in fight
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Shemira
@gloomy haven look for an Arden e+ u can run wilders with shemira and Thoran
@delicate trout @viscid hazel I'll give these a try, I appreciate it y'all
Any lineup recommendations?
@lament birch please post ur stage as well line ups usually depend on your stage
@viscid hazel
@viscid hazel so I would take off Silvina? And replace with Arden?
@gloomy haven ya that’s what I would do silvina is great but not really 1v5 whereas shemira can with good support
@lament birch u tried
Ira
Shemira
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
And I guess the added healer would help she not die as much then? Cause unless it’s gear wise Shem sometimes seems to just be quickly deleted...
@viscid hazel I'll try👍🏽
Arden is for crowd control not healing enemies can’t attack well I guess kinda is the same 
Gotcha, lol I role assumes because of the flower staff made me thing Druid 😂
U should also focus on gear for shemira then. Maybe 1 or 2 leg items from guild shop wouldn’t recommend more tho better save up for mythic
@viscid hazel lé stupid me did sent the wrong accounts stage 🤦🏽♂️
That's the right one
LOL didn’t even notice level difference
@lament birch did u try
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Heeelp pls ))
@solemn cloud
Try
Arden
Saveas
Athalia
Seirus
Tasi
@viscid hazel I literally wanted to try the exact same but goous for Shem cause tankier😅
Nah get shemira in there

Current lineup is Saveas, Brutus, Lyca, Nemora and Tasi. Thinking about sacrificing most of my Lightbearers to get Belinda to M+ and changing Brutus for Lucius but unsure who else to fill out the lineup
@viscid hazelit seems to work but then estrilda fcks everyone
Tried using Tasi instead of Fawkes didn’t work. Any suggestions?
Could also level Belinda to 161 I think, I have 12k dust
I don’t have enough to do that
@burnt knot ur line up seems nice only thing u are missing is Arden for later stages just swap saveas for shemira an you’re good. I don’t see a spot for Belinda. I would rather use lb fodder for Lucius cause he’s useful in lab and peaks of time
@burnt knot and if you can get Shem to 161 she’s super huge race to lab and get copies of her 😃
@viscid hazel is L Shemira better than L+ Saveas at this point? Wouldn't be able to get her up past about where everyone is now due to her being on the crystal
@viscid hazel I wasted all my lab points on blue tokens when I had no idea how end game was 😂 21k to go and hoping shes on the list when the store resets
I think not for now but when u have her l+ and can make her 161 on her own then yes
I basically get down to Brutus and dude in top back with shemira left over
@viscid hazelwell put one lvl in for everyone and it worked, thanks
@burnt knot don’t worry she’s always there. If you can’t wait if you spend the gems to reset the store u can also buy her (best 1k gems I spend so far)

@solemn cloud gratz on progressing was a pleasure to guide u on your journey
What are the general ideal teams for soren/wrizz
For wrizz I use Lucius Belinda shemira Brutus Athalia. U want to have a faction buff and Lucius for heals and shields to make ur team survive. For Soren I use the same cause Lucius shield makes my heroes taunt immune
Currently running
Saveas
Lucius
Nemora
Hogan
Arden
Not using Brutus bc ch 7 has a lot of lightbearer. Wondering if I could change anything to make my team better. Stuck on 7-40
@late sluice why u no use wilders 
Arden
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Replay for charm on Brutus
@vale ingot if you post ur stage it’s easier to build a line up but against lbs I would recommend using shemira for faction bonus dmg
Ur here way too much @viscid hazel x) (always when I come here)
Stuck at 9-32 currently
Without seeing the stage line up as follows
Arden
Thoran
Baden
Shemira
Nemora
@vale ingot
@viscid hazelwhat about this one ?
@viscid hazel
@limber copper
Tasi
Brutus
Belinda
Estrilda
Arden
How come you don't have Nemora? From Lab store?
@viscid hazel in some need of guidance if you’d be so kind
Thanks @ancient hound for the formation, I’ll try it out and i just never bought her 🤷🏼♂️
@wanton spoke saveas dmg wasted on Brutus immunity who does Fawkes catch?
Fawkes catches Brutus
@ancient hound that happens when you’re stuck helping other ppl do what u can’t. Beating the stage lol 
@wanton spoke did u try Fawkes top Belinda middle saveas bot?
@viscid hazel 👀

Yeah they all get killed off very fast @viscid hazel . At least Brutus doesnt with current setup
Any way I can beat this ??
@wanton spoke Belinda bot saveas mid?
required help on 14-12 up here ^_^
@viscid hazel killed off even faster with that way
Haha @viscid hazel I'm also stuck atm, but that actually results in me being online less. When I know/ feel I can beat a stage I keep trying. But when I'm stuck I just AFK
Lol I afk from game and hop on discord tho
Any tips for a lineup plz
@limber copper you should definitely buy Nemora. Her charm works really well in chapter 7-10 for the enemy carry. After that focus on Shemira.
@wanton spoke guess you just have to afk and grind some levels
Ok. Thank you @viscid hazel
Ya i just beat 9-32 with your suggested formation hiker 🤙🏼
I’m sorry boys it’s getting late I’m going to bed have a good one @ancient hound is here for you tho 
Haha, yeah I'll help some then go sleep as well.
@solemn cloud you need a second 'carry' --> tank. One damage dealer alone isn't going to fix it at some point. Get Hogan 101.
anybody got a suggestion for 14-12
@shrewd bridge what is wrong with current setup? And what happens if you replace Lucius by Saveas (making sure that Nemora charms Ira)?
Geez I’m ready to get away from Silvina
@ancient hound sava insta dies and ira just shits on shem when she ults
@tough salmon
Shemira
Nemora (make sure silvina focus nemora)
Ira
Hogan
Arden (get Arden in crystal and also try get him E/E+ asap)
how do i beat 6-32? both top and bot just get demolished
hey! should i replace Khasos with L Golus or keep Khasos???
@shrewd bridge ok then:
Athalia (make sure Ira takes full combo, she could dodge)
Saveas
Arden
Shemira
Tasi (could replace with Nemora)
just for my lineup in general 😔
why saveas front line? hes pretty booty atm haha
Because you need to burst Ira or her ulti will fck you like you said
he insta dies unfortunately
also still just need 1 more to crystal everyone to 141 (6k dust TT)
I would try with Athalia on Ira, also keep using Arden and Shemira. Mix with others & switch positions
@pine folio you can replace them, but don't sacrifice Khasos or smth. But yea, L+ Golus can't hurt when you have no real tank
@tacit kayak
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
havent had much luck with lyca but ill give it a shot
Suggestion on best line up?
I need a lineup for 8-26
@worthy rain get Nemora asap from Labyrinth & ascend Arden to E+. Good units are: Lucius, Brutus (front). Shemira, Lyca, Arden, Nemora (back). Optional in some fights: Vedan, Silvina.
@ancient hound shemira cant tank long enough and saveas doesnt have enough time to get ultimate sadly
@tacit kayak even when your Nemora charms enemy Saveas? You might need some luck with Arden roots and Nemora charm
@ancient hound won’t have faction bonus though
@half terrace you should reset Nemora and get Saveas to 120. Nemora will be fine at 101.
ok
@half terrace please read this as well
@worthy rain you will, with 3 Wilder in back
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
Will be a while since I bought shemira
So i use my highest ascended heroes?
@ancient hound yes, golus and spidergirl kill shemira even while saveas is charmed, meanwhile my saveas can't finish off brutus even with good roots
@tacit kayak my bad, shouldnt put sav into brutus. Try with Shemira and Saveas switched
Just help me with a lineup plz
Can I get some help?
What's the best wrizz team I have?
Hey, Im New, can someone tell me the best team i can use with these?
Any suggestions for 8-28?
Whats the best team possible for me for now? Im using the first row. Just recently got Belinda as a reward, and Im not sure my team is the best it can be atm
that worked thanks @hearty grail
Who should I buy from challenger store
I can make either nemora or arden legendary, which one should i use and what should my new lineup be?
@open mural callum pls u need to help me xD
9-20 I really need some help
Any tips?
@lapis sand try switching Tasi and savaes position
@fallow drum can you help me as well pls? 😃
is nara good?
Need help on 10-8, what should my team be
@obsidian ember try to put saveas in the back, and a tanker in his place in front. give saveas the shield damage reduction artifact (forgot the name) as well
ok
give nemora CAll artifact and brutus Grace
Having a hard time on 6-36 and would love some help/input!
use your top 5, remove the topright one (dont know his name) and replace him for belinda
I'll go with Nemora @shy basalt , Arden is easier to get
@fallow drum nice, thank yuou
Upgrade your top 5 heroes and then put the rest in the resonating crystal because you’re wasting resources that could be put elsewhere. @rotund yarrow
@rotund yarrow reset 3 heroes. You're only supposed to upgradr 5 heroes
i need help with 8-36 now lol
Can someone help me tell me what the best setup is?
First 3 artifacts included, who needs what
I'll put the crit one on savaes, mana regen on the graveborn mage (forgot her name) and invincibility on ogi
@fallow drum and the setup?
The circled character keep ruining my life. Any tips for this stage?
Can't win at all, yet I have beaten higher power in the Tower. Is there anything I could change with my lineup to have a better chance.
guys these are my heroes, i have a question in my wilders heroes. who should i focus on ranking up to legend? can you pls rank in who to prioritize?
I would say Nemora - Arden - Tasi - Lyca - Kaz but that's because that's the order i would most likely use them.
I'd go with Arden - Nemora first, since he has so many copies of Arden and would most likely get him to L+ first
Any ideas?
i see
Well met comrades,
Currently stuck on 7-36 and I’ve maxed out my farael so I was thinking of using my eVedan and eNiru as fodder for an e+Silvina. I was saving vedan and Niru bc I didn’t know which I would need out of them.
Alternatively, should I just reset my Farael and sub with my Legendary Saveas and lose out on my 3/2 faction bonus?
btw @fallow drum is it okay to put arden to L+? is he still useful late game? maybe the resources will@just go to waste ascending him? sorry newbie
faction bonus doesn't do to much when at a low stage tbh.
Any suggestions appreciated
what kind of team should I aim for and which heroes should I prioritize leveling? I get the free Belinda tomorrow
Any suggestions for 11-40? I haven't had great luck getting the hero copies I need.
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@shy basalt I'd say arden since he's easier to L+ and spikes harder than nemora at L+
Should I feed grezhul and skreg or later on they will have use (chapter 14)
Both are good late game, better not to feed ascended tier heroes @near plover
Ty
I thought skreg is like the mythic tier angelo
Any tips? The character I circled keeps ruining me
@open mural what about raine and estrilda
Stuck on 8-12
@near plover both are good on full LB teams which you can use in guild wars
Ty again
@exotic falcon try Brutus at the top for the dodge negation, then drop saveas behind Brutus. I'd try getting another mauler in there for the faction bonus if you can. Either vurk or another like safiya if you have her
@open mural could you read mine?
I'm up just a bit
@frank whale saveas will be a hard carry for a while, trade him in for shemira
@open mural fuck yea ur here
Hell yeah I am
I upgraded nemora, but whata the lineup now? :D
so swap Shemira with Saveas instead of my lv 100 capped Farael?
Just looking for some general advice. I’ve got some new epic quality graveborn and was wondering if they might be slightly better. Current lineup is the top 5
Currently at 6-28 on the campaign
@shy basalt what did I say last time?
@open mural well i got saveas to 160, brutus and ogi front, saveas nemora arden back, but i used arden to get nemora to leg. Someone else said to do nemora first because arden was easier to get
i have him Rare+ i believe tho.
@open mural That did it. Thank you sir
@shy basalt I would've said nemora if your entire team was 141
@open mural but? 😢
any tipps?:o
@shy basalt arden is better at 141 and easier to ascend than nemora
fuck
@still oar would you mind taking a look at my lineup?
@twilit bobcat hes useful mid game. And in the late game you can just foddle him to your other wilder ascended heroes, so don't worry
This one has been killing me lately. Any advice on what I can do different/better?
Try putting nemora in middle and saveras in top back
Been stuck on 8-36 for a week. Tried shifting resources to get 121 belinda, and various team comps. Nothing working. Do I just need levels?
Nothing. Lucius just keeps dying before he can even get an ult
Brutus for Lucius? The invulnerability shield I think happens after LVL 100 which can make/break them
Put Lucius at bottom
there top person does lots of knockback so lucius wont have the time to get his energy bar up to use the shield.
I'm stumped at 10 40
Any tips on this level, like what Heroes I should use and formation?
Even then, Golus just too much damage and Brutus dies too quickly
Any help for 13-12 what team?
I need help for this Vedan, he slain my dudes several times
Use lightbearers @onyx basin Maulers are strong vs Wilders
they get extra 25% attack and 15% defense against your Wilders I believe.
He kept turning into bat then regain full health, impossible to kill him with my heroes
use Heroes what can stun bind or knockback.
Hey all, any main lineup advice? I'm not a fan of Arden being maxed at Legendary+ and I'm stuck at 140 with Lucius
Also I'm about to get a Legendary Belinda if that would help my lineup for 6-36?
So arden would be good estrilda, athalia would be good against vedan @vague coral
Is my team good?
yeh looks pretty strong vs maulers
@spring ether Lucius, Belinda, fawkes, estrilda ?
@vague coral post your whole roster and the pic with enemies positing not just vedan
Any suggestions accepted
There’s only Vedan left, I’m in Labirinth
@vague coral ic.. use Brutus n serius tank, tasi/lyca/arden eroin sav. Equip them your best gears.
Anyway your levelling system is wrong. Carry should be 20 levels ahead all at least.
Alright, let's try this one.. I lost to this labyrinth level, any advice?
Should i make a legendary belidina or estrelda?
@fierce kayak thanks for the level tips, I’ll level up my Saveas, but he can’t reach 121 anw 😒
@willow moon levelling system wrong too. Carry 20 levels ahead at least vs rest.
Brutus bottom. Lucius just let him tank Shem. Atalia top to kill nemora. Nemora mid
@vague coral you can reset the rest if you willing to, else just afk for now.
Example reset everyone to 80 then pump Sav till max you can. Spares just level your tank next.
Who should be 20 levels above the rest?
I can't beat 10 40 cause of vedan 
@willow moon carry heroes like Savaes or Shemira. Savaes is carry before level 160, after that Shemira.
@river gazelle all of you guys have levelling issue. That's why carry like Sav can kill Vedan in time
Oh
my carry is ulmus
This is an example. My Shem is carry. Rest not important. I will only level my last slot which is Sav to 141 if I have enough dust. Meanwhile I just keepnleveling Shem till 180
Any advice for grinding Hero EXP better then? Or just afk?
What should u lvl up then
@naive kelp carry is the ultimate dps that others just need to protect him/her until he/her kills all enemies.
For my case.. usually my team are all killed leaving maybe Shemira and 2 to 3 enemies or 5 enemies with their hp quite low. But doesn't matter.. once Shemira gets her ulti ready (protected by other teammates)... she can 1 v 5
yeah ulmus 1v5s easily
@naive kelp Oki.. if you really like Ulmus as your carry. Sure 
@fierce kayak how is thoran ? It’s he good to@build or I can feed him to my shemira ,?
with duras drape he’s literally immortal 😉
Any tips on team composition?
This is what I have now @fierce kayak
@proud pelican he is good, but some ppl hates him. Nonetheless.. never eat heroes with 4 skills
@river gazelle Sav is your carry
Ok
@fierce kayak any suggestion for me ?
@proud pelican lol.. You are experience already. Good example of good levelling system
@proud pelican Erm... I don't think I can give very good advise for u since we nearly same power. But I will be preparing Shem to Mythic now. Build a L+ GB. Else I think you have already quite good planning and heroes.. better than mine.. lol.
You should ask those chap 20s guys. Maybe those blue names like Sorrowin, bean, etc..
Just pulled brutes, what's the best lineup to capitalize on him.
@fierce kayak thanks , what floor are you ? In Campaign
@proud pelican but I prefer Grezhul, thogan only good at stalling
Brutus athalia
Sav lyca tasi
@proud pelican chap 13. But I taking things slowly.. everyday past few stages I happy already. Don't reply wanna rush and get stuck for weeks.. lol..
What ab8 me ? Any tips guys?
So dont go for the mauler bonus
@ancient beacon
brutus ogi
Arden sav nemora
I didnt see arden
I see ty
@primal torrent u still get bonus with that team
@ancient beacon still early for u, need more pulls for us to advise.
But for now, you can feel free ascend heroes to R+ or E+. After that need to plan carefully. For example ferel stops at E+, don't ascend him further and save GB fodders for Shemira.
For now use Brutus Hogan/ogi tank, Sav Nemora and last slot whichever u like.
Or just use Brutus ogi tank, ira sav nemora. For 3/2 bonus
Ill try to get shemira at store but takes time ty guys
@ancient beacon yes takes time. No worries
Should sav still be leveled to carry when I have brutus or should I swap to him
any tips for clearing 14-16? been basically relying on shimera for a while
@primal torrent still Sav for now. Brutus now is just a good tank.
what faction to pull from with tavern tokens and what to focus besides sav to L+ and shem to 161?
@spark canyon build a L+ GB to feed Shem later to M. Maybe Silv as I think she is useful till you feed her away.
I might go with maulers for Brutus to E+ but high risk, and fodders for Sav to L+.
Else go with Light hoping for Lucius (rest of lights as bonus to ascend your Lights heroes). Wilders always a good choice if you wanna play safe.
Sorry.. ignore the fodders part. Or token not scroll
Really stuck on this one. Do I just need to AFK it out until I have enough hero exp to overpower Saveas?
Or can I do something differently with my lineup?
@willow moon Ya again. Ideally is Sav 101, rest of heroes park at 80.
Also, Sav always behind Brutus to benefit his roar. Sav should be top as tough to kill Brutus. Remove serius as he is wilder. Throw in Arden or tasi.
Is there anything more I can do to grind hero exp better or just afk?
@willow moon afk. That's why usually we just spend some diamonds to reset.
Got it
Hey all any thoughts on what I should do with my maulers or in general?
@stone moat #classic-questions ^^
It may include a lineup question, but this channel specifically is made for lineups against campaign walls etc.
@wise merlin got it thanks
Help
@short canopy Prioritize levelling Isabella to 101, to unlock an ability buff for all of your Crystalized heroes.
Before then, swap Ferael for Numisu as a bait for Silvina.
Formation should look like this;
Belinda
Thoran
Saveas
Baden
Numisu
Tysm
@short canopy Welcome! ^^ best of luck 
Did a couple of pills and accension. Can anyone tell me what my best lineup would look like
I'm stuck here
Try to switch athalia with brutus position. Also try switching athalia with tasi, she is better backline
Athalia
Tasi
Lyca
Brutus
Sav
Or maybe try lyca front @primal torrent
maybe put sav front because of how overleveled he is? or need him for dps backline
Any help appreciated
@short canopy maybe try khasos instead of Belinda and put him in the front. Saveas top back behind thoran and then baden shemira over Ferael
@solemn cloud don't put saveas front, you can try thoran front with seirus and then arden tasi saveas back. Just kill Brutus first
are you able to choose who they foicus?
Not actively, but you can heavily influence who they will target by positioning them properly
Hey. I have one question. I got Belinda on 152 and Saveas on 160. I can reset Saveas and make him 151 and Belinda 161. Is it a good idea?

What's happening?
can someone help me make a team i recently got a bunch of epics and i dont know who to use no more
Keep up your saveas.
Saveas
Golus
Lyca
Khasos
Nemora
Until the won't do anymore
Should I swap my saveas to shemira ? I’m in floor 13
normally i use - nemora, lyca, raine,estrilda and lucius for wrizz
can you guys suggest a better lineup?
@wise merlin im tagging you buddy halp!
ogi or ulmus ?
@brisk pike Brutus , saveas , esterilda , raine , Lucius it’s my opinion
@brisk pike i use this setup
Thing u prefere ogi or ulmus and why ?
@ancient beacon Ulmus because of the heal
any help? 10-36
k ty
got a new lineup as shemira ferael grezhul ulmus and tasi its handling pretti good atm
pretty
@proud pelican your lineup spends all the 1:30?
@austere stag Lucius, estrilda , saveas , Belinda , Vedan and use saveas @ buttom
not even half but low lv all ab8 61
@brisk pike what do you mean ?
wrizz timer - that's wrizz raid btw
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@ember bane It's recommended that you don't use the same picture roster before changing it, as it shows false info.
In your roster, it shows that Hogan is in Crystal.
In the lineup itself, Hogan isn't.
@wise merlin i just LVL Hogan 141 to use his skill rest all same
I just got Belinda. Should I replace Mirael with her?
@ember bane I'll explain;
In my mindset, I was mindblocked by the fact you've had Hogan crystalized before.
So I was about to advice you on it, but once I realized that you did it already, I've lost my train of thought in helping you with your formation.
Need help 😦
@wise merlin should I change my saveas to shemira as a careers?
11-36 is really kicking my teeth in for the past week. Any suggestions regarding my lineup?
Are you sure, @olive thorn? I see her in a lot of formations
Well, guess that answers that. Thank you
@proud pelican Swap her for Belinda, as they're both Mages and Maulers are important to have for now.
Once your Shemira is 161 you can swap her for Saveas but for now he's one of the highest tier heroes you currently have.
Keep him in your main 5 until you'll have 5 Mythic tier heroes and slowly swap them all out until you've got a whole team of 5 Mythics.
@ionic iris show me your box
@olive thorn Belinda for Guild Raids if anything 😂 😂 😂
^
but that's the focus of everyone cause it's the free hero ascend u have
wrizz raid lineup please :3
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
Lucius
Shemira
try like this mate
Saveas
Shemira
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
for wrizz imo
@olive thorn Raine? ^
Just got steamrolled 😃 Maybe I’ll nuke everyone’s gear and start over
Current lineup is circled. Any suggestions?
@wise merlin on our tries raine is the weakest of the lb trio for doing wrizz but
Really?
Yeah you right. 
@olive thorn god bless your soul I did it with the team you said T.T
so...
Saveas
Shemira
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
^ this?
in term of value against wrizz for "supporting" we have
warek >>>>>>>>>>>> estrilda > belinda > raine
Any suggestion for me ?
y totally @brisk pike
aight thanks for the input, how about for soren?
u also can do tries with raine instead of belinda, tbh maybe it's not the same meta at your lvl
lemme pull out my stats
silvina can't?
@haughty hull imo athalia is really more valuable than numisu
Hmm, even fully geared I can’t use that team to beat 11-36. Everyone gets wiped out before any actives hit
I can't put crazy damage dealers vs Soren.. yikes
oh y don't saw the silvina on the same ascend tier
y play silvina
@proud pelican show me your lvl
silvina better than golus for soren?
at this lvl that really depend of enemy team
there is no universal team
yeah silvina is better
and for soren the god is
WAREK
XD
Hey guys, I currently have these set of heroes, I’ve been running
Nemora
Saveas
Arden
Warek
Tasi
But I’m wondering if there is a better team comp hiding within my set.
Thanks in advance!
@olive thorn level 63
@olive thorn floor 13
i actually semi-auto over wrizz so i can time wrizz explosion with lucius shield
imo u are fine with this @celest meadow , probably play athalia on some lvl if u have prob on one specific carry
yeah that's the plan with lucius
@olive thorn I’m I’m currently stuck on this level here, is it just level based?
do u have the dust for get 161 shem if u reset the saveas xp @proud pelican
1min @celest meadow , i finish to help thing and i'm looking for u
No problems at all!
think it can
@olive thorn yeah I can do it
do it then
let saveas 141
then try again your lvl like this
Shemira
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Nemora
try to kick of arden for athalia @celest meadow
then put her in mid
I got 45k for lab store. Which unit should I grab?
@merry raptor shem but u will not play her axtually
wait to ascend a bit before playing shem
Should I just save currency then?
@merry raptor next time #classic-questions
Oh wrong place? Figured it was lineup related
This channel is specifically line up help in campaign chapter walls, or unbeatable chapters
Ahhh sorry
^^ No worries
I ran with Lucius, Brutus, Tasi, Nemora, and Shemira against stage 11-36 and just got rocked. Anything I should tune, @olive thorn ?
show me the enemies
Here’s a grab
show me all your box then
imo brutus even in E have more value than estrilda
ok try this, idk if he can work tbh
Saveas
Brutus
Lucius
Hogan
Belinda
Someone the other day suggested Estril which is why she’s in that shot
Hard stuck for 2 days any advice new player
They’re not here now 😃
i saw a lot of dumg things on this chat so i'm not surprised
guess im switching my estrel with hogan then
calls like "food your arden"
^^
oh u have a 141 arden
and i don't put him in your line up
oof
@olive thorn estrilda is good for wrizz raid 
i'm terrible player
What lineup would you make with my team for arena?
well that's just it, estrel isn't tankier than hogan
I really like estrella, don't care about the others
Arden
Saveas
Lucius
Hogan
Belinda
well i also like estrel, but only up to a point
try like this it probably will be better
Dolly did u see my post
Holy cow, Dolly, that lineup worked. Thank you so much!
let me help one by one john i'm not a bot
Or are you 🤔
Need help clearing this one
u welcome @feral coral don't play that shitty female in horse again
Haha, no problem
show all your box @patent cliff
@hollow current who have the lowest defense into your shem and your tasi
Stuck on ch6, what would my best team be?
Them gems doe
Tasi def has the lower defense @olive thorn
imo your top 5 is fine @patent cliff , i have no magic spell for u, sorry 😦
So I jus need gear and lvls
Alright also should be doing this ?
Aw the server went down
Never burn your Ascended tier heroes
Ok ty
If anything it's the other way around where you'd feed the hogans into the raine
@olive thorn imo Estrilda is 3rd-best LB (after Lucius and Fawkes) ?
Probably should also note at levels, but at the level of @feral coral I think Estrilda can still win you games. In later levels Raine outscales Estrilda. Also I do agree that L+ 160 Hogan is better option for his line-up than L 140 Estrilda.
can someone help create a team for me
Thanks Hiker. I’m blown away by some of the deep lineups that get posted here, often by people with half my level. Gotta keep working at it!
Welcome. Oh and do note Estrilda is good for the CC, not for damage or smth. So imagine enemy having Khasos or Brutus front; estrilda can disrupt nicely. Including backline.
estrilda >> 🗑
@slim oak Focus on shemira/lucius/nemora i think. They can hard carry just by keeping shemira alive and letting her murder everything.
After that saveas/lyca/safiya/khasos are all good dps or support. not too sure since i dont use them
@slim oak I'd go with Saveas/ Lucius/ Nemora/Lyca/Ulmus for now. But it will depend on future pulls and Ulmus isn't that good, but just for union bonus.
Well i find belinda and estrilda extreme usefull in higher Levels (~181) ofc there are better ones but they are not trash either
@ancient hound good morning I’m back 
@tidal flume ya Belinda is just not shemira and estrilda is not as tanky as Brutus
nor are they as good as wilder backline that’s their biggest problem
Sure, but you will still need them for light tower- i would never swap them with a shem or a brutus - but in the right team they can do Well again some enemy comps
@hollow current if u pass that level keep me in mine, cause i'm stuck there too
Ya faction tower is pretty hard later stages cause u can’t play with ur main team
@pale kettle haha yeah it's wierd to hit a wall on a stage that isn't a boss
@pale kettle tasi lyca arden hogan saveas
you should have put arden to 141 and than lvl up saveas to 160
Hey :), just wondering if I should keep lvling up brutus, or from now on split the xp between my wilders? thx
Hi. I got belinda on 152, Saveas on 160, others on 143-145. Is it smart to reset saveas to 152 and Belinda do 161? Or should i just wait?
I am hard stuck for 3 days
how to pass?
see if putting saveas in front helps, he used to tank lots for me
darn was close, switched shem n sav for front and used mirael instead due to her shield. was down to kaz vs sav 1v1 i lost lol will try again hoping for better rng lol
darnit kaz with her dodge again
Stuck on 6-8, all help is appreciated
I tried so hard and got so far... In the end it doesnt even matter... help...
@worn forge a pic of the stage would help a lot xd
yay won it! 3rd times a charm
@south herald cant get into the game atm xD
@worn forge generally if you're stuck towards the 6s that just means you need to afk and level your heroes up more tbh. You're still very early gamewise so it's not as if you have a full box and crystal to really play around with
freaking sav carrying me, thanks for the tip @wary solar
lyca leg+, or tasi leg? can do only one of them
||say tasi||
Uhhh depending on whether you need dps or cc. @orchid yew
Lyca L+ usually the better option. But also depends on ur CC/dps units & whether you already have 5 L+ in crystal?
@tepid bison @ancient hound
I'd go Lyca L+ as you have some good dps and frontline to protect ur Tasi. As in, you don't need Tasi to be L. And your ascended units can profit from a Lyca in line-up
both lyca and tasi saved my ass several times, thats why decision is hard.
Tbh id probably do Tasi over Lyca with that box. I only use Lyca for initial haste and Tasi is good Silvina bait.
What would you guys do with my team in arena? Almost have enough puzzle pieces for either a second estrelda or a Shemira
Yeah, but Tasi usually doesn't carry you by being a hard-buffed high-dmg or high-armor unit. Plus Tasi has a dodge. So only risk for Tasi is Silvina one-shot
so it's 1-1 ... 😄
Lyca requires a lot of work to out-dps his Shemira, Brutus, or Belinda tho 🤷🏽 Tasi can up his total survivability and group dps before Lyca could perform better as a solo dps
Any tip?
Lyca doesn't need to out-dps Shemira/ Brutus, she buffs them. And I think Tasi is just as useful on E+ vs L. Lyca does profit from some sustain + dmg, whereas I feel like Tasi barely does. Only for HP buff & skill upgrade.
🤷🏽 all valid points. I might be biased bc I pulled 5 tasis before a single Lyca and I just cant stand looking at her now. Plus post 15 with silvinas destroying my backline Tasi is my decoy bae
well guys, you wont make easy to me this. both your arguments are true. I use them both
Think about how much both fit in your line-up I guess. Tasi/ Lyca/ Nemora is strong backline for Shemira & Brutus and personally I'd prefer my Lyca to be a bit tougher, as Tasi will survive (with some luck & retries)
@upper kernel
Nemora
Estrilda
Ira (put her in your main line-up)
Brutus
Arden (where is Arden... noo you dont have Arden, where is Arden)
Btw, also don't randomly ascend any hero to L
@upper kernel also Fawkes over Raine for campaign. His banish and strip is more useful than her buff imo
Anyone got a good idea as to how I can beat this? This level is absolute torture
@warm tree
Nemora
Saveas
Hogan
Brutus
Athalia
And you my friend could be in chapter 11 with those heroes. If you get Arden E+ / L+ too that is
Is that 15-40? @subtle peak
Bingo
Haha that bitch of a level. I ran Tasi Lyca Nemora backline Shemira Brutus frontline. If no Tasi, Arden. If that faild after 20 attempts, change out Lyca for Athalia and have her target ebemy Shemira from the start. Main goal is to cc their Shemira before she can Silence yours. Pair Brutus against Niru to make him waste ults.
Lightbearer teams just get melted on that level smh
@ancient hound thanks, will try that, trying to get an arden up, but made a mistake early and am not getting new ones :(
Holy shit, that worked on my first attempt
👍 congrats haha
I've had a combined 250 attempts on 15-40 so far, and then that comp works first try 😑
@subtle peak Ah I was still typing, congratz. But yeah you should definitely be able to pass after lvl 141+ skill unlock x5
Fyi 16-20 is like another version of that but now featuring Silvina 😕
Charming Isabella is way to go
I'm getting blasted.. What can i do ?
You have faction disadvantage right off the bat. 🤔
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Thoran
Nemora (charm sav)
Your team is kinda squishy vs. that Saveas tho. I guess that Saveas shreds ur team way quicker than your Nemora the enemies?
Yes that's it
Lucius is also a valid consideration depending on gear. He would get faction advantage over the maulers. It would throw off formation bonuses tho. 🤷🏽
E Lucius gets wiped by M Sav
Could place him backline and pray he gets an ult off haha
@placid willow Hey there! ^^
Take your Saveas out of the Crystal, and in his place, put Estrilda in Crystal.
Allowing a lvl 160 maximum cap for Crystal by having 5 L+ tier heroes.
I'd spend the 40 crystal to reset Shemira & Arden to 141/ 121 respectively and try to get tankier frontline. Not sure who that should be tho.
I suppose you tried Shemira frontline bottom @placid willow ?
I tried so hard and got so far... In the end it doesnt even matter... help...
He could also run Nara opposite Saveas to pull and stun depending on whether he can output dps in that time. That would enable him to run thoran Brutus frontline, Saveas shemira Nara backline. Although it would be a weird comp it would save his formation bonus and give him a tankier frontline.
@restive tangle tbh you need to level up some. 101 everything if possible. Move athalia to bottom left. Consider dropping Arden until he's 141 and run either Ulmus frontline and move Shemira back, or even running Belinda and adjusting fir formation bonuses. 🤔
Your main issue tbh is you're all over the place. Arden before 141 is an ok ccer but not great. Nemora at low levels will die before charming or healing, especially against a Silvina. Shemira really isnt viable frontline until she gets Ult heal or has advantage. Athalia is most useful when she's shutting down enemy ccers or mages
Hi everyone. I'm running with Brutus(M+)/Lyca(M+) - Tasi(M)/Nemora (L+) / Shemira (A). I have the possiblity to upgrade Either Tasi to M+ or Nemora to M. Which choice is the better one? Thanks!
And sugeestions? Ira melts through my Team. Was very close Match so far
Athalia is always first option to try when enemy mid melts you, already tried?
yes, but she interrupts ira for only a few seconds after that she dies. soon i can make her to mythic tier. maybe that helps
@mystic furnace I'd do Tasi but that's just because I think she's ultimately more useful than Nemora. There are valid reasons for both. Charm and heal are op but I like Banish, Sleep and Teleport more 🤷🏽
It's about Athalia accuracy and Ira dodge, probably Ira dodges Athalia secondary attack
Thanks man, I'm just wondering in general if a given team would benefit best from M-->M+ or L+->M
@whole bobcat what arsenal have you got?
since I already have a E+ maybe Tasi is the right choice indeed (still, 2 more Epic tasis to be able to ascend :p)
This is my main, just started should i focus on certain ones? And should i change something?
you see on picture. below are thane L+, Belinda L, Khasos, Numisu and Ferael L. Nara and Ezizh Elite +
If your Nemora dies before being useful, bring her up to at least on par with the rest of your team. From a pure utility standpoint, if you aren't just getting completely melted in the first 20 seconds of any given stage, Tasi is probably a better bet.
jup tasi -> nemora
@whole bobcat I have exactly the same team except that I put Nemora instead of Arden. Team level were a bit higher though in the backrow
and I am at 19-8 now, so you're not too far from owning chpter 18 entirely 😉
if i use nemora, it dont help. i just hope, that arden roots 3 enemies
yea, guess i have to get 2 more mythic heroes, that my other heroes can lvl up to 180.
@languid mauve lucius over Estrilda as a tank, and you should build your Baden over your Ira. Your Ezizh is going to drop out of being useful soon so consider a tank that would give you formation bonus
backlinf was lvl 175 though
soon i have athalia mythic and lyca or tasi to mythic.
and frontline = Lyca / Brutus
guess i have to wait then for lvl 180
@whole bobcat does Fawkes catch Ira if you get him in?
shemira in slot 5. Yeah afking and leveling slowly but surely 😃
You could run Lucius Estrilda frontline Vedan Baden Mirael backline for now. @languid mauve although you would have no CC and would eventually need to build wilders for that.
yes, he catch her. but who should i replace for him?
Could drop Lyca for Estrilda and Tasi for Fawkes. @whole bobcat Estrilda also has similar starting buffs although not as good. 🤷🏽
Maybe try:
Lucius
Brutus
Fawkes
Shemira
Estrilda
I don't have any familiarity with this comp, but just an idea
will try, but guess estrila get instantly killed in 0,5 seconds
🤞 it's like my Lucius against a graveborn team. I'm lucky if he even hits once sometimes haha
Maybe Lucius will support her idk. Could of course get a Wilder in, but then you miss union bonus
thx in advance, will tell u after i tried this things out
Good luck and goodnight friends. ❤
good night mate 😉
Should I bring Belinda to L and use her? Atm Im using only my first row. Any tips?
Someone tell me how to beat this cashgrab of a stage. Whoever did this is retarded gj lilith
@tepid bison @mystic furnace it worked with Fawkes , lyca , arden backline and brutus shemira frontline. Thx!
well done!
CC ftw
Which line up would you guys say is better out of these two?
14-28 stuck. Also should I be saving diamonds for star gazer now?
Any recommendations? They are always left with like 10% health
Maybe try mirael to get the 4 person faction bonus?
Newest line up: who to change or wait for others champs?
I have no clue what I'm doing. please provide clarity https://i.imgur.com/QJgNECz.jpg
@lucid grove @languid mauve @glossy rune read this
@dawn edge
Athalia
Nemora
Belinda
Lucius
Ira
@ancient hound ooooh so am I right in saying u can use the crystal to bypass level caps
Yea, for the heroes that don't have ascension tier yet, even though you would like to keep using them
@ancient hound yay i beat 15-40
so how do I know what the level cap is for each hero?
Nicee @viscid hazel
Basically 20 levels per ascension @lucid grove (E = 100, E+ 120, L 140 L+ 160 etc)
Im stuck on 6-36 and not so keen on my setup, any help please?
Don’t use shemira and saveas, use saveas, Arden, Athalia, Thoran & Hogan
@latent dune Order & rebuild your heroes according to this. Nemora is not a carry, so don't level her first.
shemira the carry
@ancient hound that makes sense thanks a lot!
Only at 161 + does she do better than saveas
Oh, i leveled her to 101 as shes + for the bonus skill..i normally dont level her like that but thanks for the tips!
Tricky crystal 👴
Did I do it correctly @ancient hound
Should I bring Belinda to L and use her? Atm Im using only my first row. Any tips?
I will try to level up everyone lvl 140 first
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@ancient hound I'm counting the number of times that's picture has been used 😂 👀
@ember bane I passed that chapter with this formation;
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
If you're missing some you could use Nemora instead
Got it ! But stuck here now lol
Which line up do you guys think is better?
@lucid grove show me the rest of your heroes
Any help?.?
Thanks again Ricey and Hiker, got past the level and gota nicer looking 5 in the crystal
@lucid grove why dont you try ulmust estrilda (or nemora) shemira baden fareal
Stucked at 10-27, any help?
Any tips?
@west merlin put shemira behind brutus tasi where lyca is and nemora as front
Help?
how can I beat this?
@violet pecan didnt work well. Maybe i just need to uppgrade
@wise merlin i tried this many times but didn't work
@west merlin swap position of top heroes and bottom heroes so brutus and shemira will be top and nemora and tasi bottom.... you can do this... you just need to reply and change formation you are strong enough... i have 100k weaker team and i am at position you are
you can either put lyca front
I have tried all with brutus, lycia and shemira in front about 20 times each, and brutus dies to quick i think. And tasi almost never ulti
@ember bane i would suggest
Nemora
Saveas
tasi
Lyca
Arden
@west merlin dont put shemira in front only wilder ones and brutus...
Do you have right artifacts on your heroes?
That i dont know. Lol. I have just put those who i think fit best
Suggests?
Hey folks, need some opinions please. I have l+ belinda, thane, and lucius and i have two l+ fodder for them. Looking for suggestions on who to ascend. I am f2p and my only other mythic is an m+ shemira for reference. Cheers ^^
no problem @west merlin pm me anytime you need help with lineup
@austere depot i would go for lucius and thane, belinda is good for silence and attack buff... i dont find her that good later in game (just mine opinion)
Cheers mate, i also have an l+ raine but she's probably not worth ascending while i don't have a strong team to go with her?
Do I get Belinda to L and start using her? Currently using the first row. What should I swap? (If I have to)
@austere depot i dont find her usefull in PVP 😄 so i wont ascend her further
She's good for bursting in Labyrinth and PoT though. But wouldn't ascend her as first L(+)
Full charged ulti + relic that gives bonus dmg in first 15 sec Belinda is rly good
@twin plank only if you want to swap it with shemira
Should I keep my comp as it is now?
focus on getting arden L+ and saveas L+ Brutus and khasos arent good before 141 lvl
I would recommend going Arden Lyca Nemora Saveas and 5th what you prefer
Who as my frontline tho?
Currently running (lyca+estrilda) front, (tasi+shemira+neomora) back. Should i let neomora take estrilda’s place and use belinda behind?
@pulsar root read this
Probably best replace Estrilda by Shemira or Saveas & run Lyca, Nemora, Tasi in the back. Shemira/ Saveas front, Saveas being highest level
Oh ok, i’ll def try that setup, thanks! Btw, which lineup can i use belinda in?
Any advice is appreciated.
@deep pelican Just curious. How long have you played this game?
Between 8 months to 14 months approximately
@deep pelican it's way above my level, so I'm not sure about damages etc, but I'd try:
Nemora (charm sav)
Brutus
Tasi (not sure if she survives long enough to dodge away?)
Lyca
Shemira
Ty for answer ^^
All g 👍 and @ancient hound I’ll give it a try thank u
I cant run saveas and shemira frontline, saveas just dies too quickly lol, now im trying neomora and shemira frontline, and lyca tasi and belinda back
I suppose those L+ are useless due to them being too squishy @deep pelican ?
Yeah I saw, it makes it hard to clear a stage when your main comp doesn't work. But I'd try Fawkes and maybe even Lucius. But I feel like you'd mostly need a burst damage/ assassin. I suppose even at that level Saveas is the main problem?
Yea cause the main problem I’m having is fawkes confining someone and Athalia being able to nearly 1 shot everything
Ascended Safya would solve problem of Athalia
Yea Saveas hurts a lot 😂 @ancient hound
Yea Saveas great carry till 160, but after that he falls off for us and keep carrying the enemy lol unfair
Try pulling Saveas with Nara, but otherwise idk. Enemy line-up so burst-heavy
@deep pelican your Athalia is only Elite+? what did you bought with Lab coins?
So I’ve bought 1 Athalia, I grezhul and 1 numisu
@deep pelican i know it would sound crazy but this kind of WIlder team dont work well against malaures.... it may be sound crazy but only thing i can think of right now is relly on dodge and faction bonus
Fawkes Thane Shemira Grezhul Fareal
So I need help I have so many units able to ascend I just don’t know which ones I should do
I don’t want to make the wrong decision but I’m almost at the 120 cap
Yo I'm kinda stuck atm, what would be the best line up for this level
@terse fog could you sort per faction and send me personal message? It's hard to visualize it like this
Yeah sure thing @ancient hound
someone 18-24?
@digital current try this:
Ira
Eironn
Ogi/ Nemora (see which works)
Hogan
Fawkes
Any ideas
Level up your heroes more
6-36, I guess I'm just underleveled?
make estrilda Legendary @pale kettle with your 2 elite+ hogans
and then use her against the legendary brutus
aight
Dont forget to equip her with good gear
@pale kettle nooo don't L Estrilda
@ancient hound lmao why?
I guess I should keep it for Lucius
Should i wait for better champs to switch or is this decent for a start
@languid mauve decent start but retire your green heroes
@pale kettle yes, save those fodders until you can L+ someone
he is underlevelled af.
And besides he is using 3 wilders agains all maulera which is a bad thing. Legendary estrilda is usefull against an all mauler
What level are you at?
how can I beat this?
Oh another all mauler situation.
@coarse flax don't advice people on such low levels to L their heroes. It's not gonna help them in the long run. They will get stuck at level 140, requiring 2 copies of the specific unit.
@ancient hound im not on 6-36
yeah I am on 6-36 not soulless
Yes, and on that level you don't need an L hero at all. Try:
Fawkes
Brutus
Belinda
Estrilda/ Hogan
Saveas
Put them in crystal if you haven't
also plausible
Always follow @ancient hound s advice 
@viscid hazel 😂 too much credit
Not enough
Got cooldowns on my crystal, but ill try as soon as i can 😃 thanks @ancient hound @coarse flax
What should I do or who should I switch out and put with who?
I understand it’s an over load of lightbarers but
got any wilders? arden maybe? it helps against those graveborn
Yea, and you wanna focus Niru. But how are we supposed to react if you don't show us your heroes @prisma kraken
I already did scroll up
@ancient hound he post his full roster above, think you miss it 
@ancient hound
Too many queries so we might miss then out @prisma kraken
Yes I understand @fierce kayak
It's better post one shot both pics.
Any advice on this? Think its possible?
Cannot figure out wich team is better for chapter 15, some tips would be appriciated
@prisma kraken you can try: Shemira/Niru/Kaz and Estilda tank. Back 3 use either Ira/Kaz/Niru/ Shem/Arden. Tank position swap around and try. Esltida maybe top or bottom. If Lucius is decent as tank here then can use him too, if u need healer can place Lucius at backline.
Thank you
@olive thorn ty, ill try that
Ive hit a wall here, does anyone have any tips on what to do?
@zenith violet lol you are in the exact stage as me, with the same setup. I feel your pain brother. To me they told me that i used too much wilders against an all mauler setup
Ye this one was hard haha. Did you get past it? I tried putting Lightbearers i n the back but got rect even harder
nah i'm still stuck too man 😃 i think i'm just underleveled. But i'm gonna try to put belinda and estrilda in my setup.
Help for 10-21?
and fawkes
I belive I am too I scrolled up and saw you and a few more levels on your heroes than me
Stuck on 8-40
i guess we just need to afk at this point.
@marsh rose Hey there ^^
Change your formation slightly to look like this:
Nemora (as bait for Silvina)
Thane
Ira
Estrilda
Belinda
Might work if your Nemora will survive several hits from Silvina.
If she instantly dies, swap her for Ankhira, see if her reach and cc can help you in any way.
@coral solar I would help, but I'm clueless. You might need to overpass level 141 for improved abilities..
@sleek hazel I am not very good with line-up but I think tasi and Shemira works together well. And if you don't have Savaes or prefer Shemir/Belinda as your carry.. You can consider reset everyone to 120 first then pump Shemira/Belind above 141? Chap 10 I not sure if L Shem/Belinda is good enough tho
@fierce kayak is that really a good choice tho
@sleek hazel or you post later again and we if others can help u. Do post your FULL roster like Summ above.
Stuck on 6-36. Any suggestions for best formation? Also, should I evenly level my heros or should I try to over level one such as Shemira or Saveas? https://imgur.com/a/Fjf3krd
What’s the 6-36 lineup again?
overleveling saveas is always a good idea, same as shemira
The lineup was :
Fawkes
Brutus
Belinda
Estrilda/ Hogan
Saveas
@pale kettle I dont have Fawkes, really want him though lol
@sleek hazel https://imgur.com/a/cWIJBVA
So I should replace Numisu with Athalia, @olive thorn? But I won't have any additional healing then
@winged bloom try for a full lightbearer team with athalia, would try to level Belinda for this stage
Current setup. I've been told to replace Numisu with Athalia, but does anyone have any other suggestions before I do that?
@winged bloom lmao that was my first pull. No shemira, lucius or any other good thing tho. Except maybe brutus
11-36. Khasos and Saveas kicking my a!!
@haughty hull in my experience, mirael is generally weak. So later on, replace her. Also, work on equpping gear and ascending. Personally, I'd also have Belinda at least in your Crystal. I do agree with replacing Numisu with Athalia
@sleek hazel common practice is to over level your carry. So it's up to you 
@fierce kayak sure thing
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@sleek hazel but the only concern I have is Shemira at this stage I felt is not that good. If it's a L+ Savaes then I think he is better. So not sure if you pump Shemira will she able to carry you far.
But some prefer Shemira and never use Savaes to carry them.
I can’t get any further with her anws
Guys, I'm done with everything. I've done quests and I've done my artifacts. I literally cannot do anything until I past this stage 😂
I can only boost my Belinda rn
I was stuck at I think and chap 10 or beginning chap 11 with Savaes 160 and the rest my team like 150. Then Bean advise me reset everyone to 140 and push Shem to Mythic.. I proceed till chap 13 now.
For your reference but I think you should ask those more experience guys @sleek hazel
Help
Hard stuck and not sure what to do
Another Wilder stage to cripple poor Shem. Should I reset her and bring up Khasos or is that overkill?
Any help appreciated
shem to 180
Then nem or luci?
I know i am a bit early sure, but What should i aim for? Lack all broken heroes. Should i just save for sheep och shemira with my labarynt. Right now viseas doesnt work at all. Should i swap my main dmg from spookygirl to something F2P
do i have any hope without a lot of afk
@cobalt lance Arden for Nemora and press replay over and over
yeah ive tried that two. the real problem is the double veden bats
Then propably not 300k diff is no joke 😃
Get Brutus to 161 the lifesteal is huge
Shem 180 Brutus 161 should be prio 1 for u
need a mythic brutus or all heros at 161 to get him to 161
i cant yet as im 1 brutus away from myrhic him and thats at the end of chap 14. only way to do it would be 4 other 161s which will be quite a while :/ @viscid hazel
ya mb
im wondering if i can reset shimera and do some saevas strat to get to the end of chap 14 then switch back to shimera brutus strats
Shemira 180 carried me to 16-1
oh nice! @narrow scarab what support did you give her? and what gear did you have?
would help if you can get some mythic equipment for her
i got a mythic staff but its mauler
The support varries depending on who you're fighting. But i have 3 mythic pieces at 4 stars
ahhh yeah so gear is my folly. i need a lucky drop as my firstt myrhic was 2 days ago from guild
generally would use dura's call on shemira, sometimes blade works too
i used duras call on tasi in hopes of getting her abliity. dont have blade yet
Yeah, all of my mythic gear is from guild purchase but my guild is top notch
i need a better guild i guess? how does that affect guild çoin income
combine call with mythic boots to increase speed to use skill earlier
45/45 people fightong every day and i do 10 mil damage to boss so i get a few thousand each day
1 new mythic piece once a week roughly
You get to soren muuuuuch faster, we fight himevery couple days
We beat him yesterday and we're already at 5000/9000
damn nice. i need to find a good guild then
oh with challenger coins should i save for the dark and celestial units or buy the other ones?
I buy the other ones for fodder personally. Dont make too many useable heroes legendary because you'll need fodder
Like right now my shemira is stuck at 180 because I don't want to sac thanos
Help!
for graveborn and mauler i just focus shimera and brutus. i have a faeral stuck at epic+ who could get legend+ but want more fodder for shimera mythic+. mauler is same with brutus but i have very little mauler pulls. lightbearer is just ascend blinda and then ascend whoever as lucius eludes me. wilder ive spread out cuz that backline is great
Would this formation work?
Tips for lineup? 9-32
Reaching out for help again
@flat flax either replace Lucius with a mauler or replace the two Maulers with Lightbearers. You need faction buff
im all out of ideas. but if i beat this it will be my 4th shem copy to ascend beyond m+
But lucy and savaes so good, worth changing them for faction biff??
E Shem or L Mirael at 101?
@flat flax just for this one level. this game isn't something where you rely on one team.
@faint adder you have no dedicated dps in there
Raine is a support/debuffer
Numisu is a support/healer
Brutus and Thoran are tanks
Ezizh is a support/CC hero
Which one of my not used characters have DPS
Use any hero with a decent damaging kit, Silvina, Ira, Mirael, Ferael are all carry-style heroes, Ferael is more focused on lock down though, similar with Silvina @faint adder
Idk any other heroes you have, as they're off screen
The other ones are just commons
Iam stuck at lvl 6-8 any team composition sugesstions?
help please. will be my 4th shem.copy for completing 15-40
@craggy coral depends on enemy team composition but I'd get Saveas upgraded, put Ira, Belinda (the Elite+ one) and your Vedan in your pentagram in place of your current last 3 on top row, 20 level cap lower than the 3 I mentioned due to ascension level
most common cc is tasi->farael and nemora charms grez
But as for an overall team, I'd probably use Lucius, Hogan, Belinda, Nemora and Ira @craggy coral until you can get Saveas to a decent ascension level
@wispy vine take Tasi out, you won't pass it without charming that Ferael and making him use his fear on his own team
Lyca
Brutus
Nem
Shem
Arden
kk
You'll also need rng luck to make sure the enemy Shem doesn't silence your Shem, she tends to target your Shem becuase AI are annoying lol
Shem
@rugged marten you mean to ascend saveas right?
Eye should be on Brutus, Grace on Lyca or Nemora @wispy vine
@craggy coral yes, but only use Golus and Ankhira to do it
So won't be able to get him Ascended up a lot yet
call on shem?
@rugged marten so i should ascend saveas right?
@wispy vine yeah, I said lol
@craggy coral yeah, but only use Golus and Ankhira to get him up
@rugged marten also whom all should i put in resonating crystal ?
@craggy coral any hero you consider using
It's different fro everyone
But if you know a hero is good, but their ascension isn't as high as others, they should go in
Help
@rugged marten this is what iam going against
@craggy coral well you're using a tank in the back and a mage in the front for a start 😅
@rugged marten and this is all i have
@craggy coral if you insist on using Vedan as your carry, make sure he is 20 levels at least above all your other heroes
Vedan needs to outlevel the enemy team to carry a team, or else he'll die too quickly
@rugged marten dont know what to do
@craggy coral try Lucius, Hogan, Belinda, Vedan and Raine
@fair sinew swap Tasi out, Nem in
Now this is gonna sound ridiculous but...
You're gonna need your Nemora to outspeed enemy Nemora, then that Nemora, to charm Ogi so it bides your Brutus more time to keep them busy for long enough for your Shemira to kill Kaz, who needs to be rooted by your Arden, as well as the enemy Arden or else your Shem won't kill the enemy team quick enough @fair sinew
Can some1 help me XD my post is a bit up there
@rugged marten I'll keep trying with that, thank you! Gonna take a lot of retries 🤣
Should I ascend shem and use her in place of arden ao I have a 3/2 faction bonus or should I wait ?
@fair sinew yeah, Wilder teams are super heavily reliant on RNG 😂😂 but basics, charm enemy Nemora, don't let Kaz kill Shem or Arden root Shem and you should be alright
@novel flume I feel like Arden is a lot better than Shemira at that point in the game
So wait I shall
yeah, Arden's CC w/ good RNG is really lifesaving
Shemira needs 161 to start to really shine
His ulti is great with raine's ulti too
Arden peaks at 141 as he gains his third target on his root, and turns him into extremely reliable CC
I'm desperate xD if u can't respond to me now pls send a msg I'm done with this levelllll
Honestly though, I'd wait for 1 more L tier GB and get Vedan to Legendary+ right away, that way he will have a 160 level cap for your pentagram/crystal and he can get Shemira from Legendary+ to Mythic when you no longer need him @novel flume
@last flicker do you have a Brutus to put down on the bottom to waste enemy Saveas' time while you wreck his top?
That's a good idea too
@last flicker swap Shem out, out Arden in, Lyca in over Tasi and try to get Nem to charm Estrilda out of her charge
Yeah, post all your heroes, not just the line up
Hes just epic still @rugged marten shoul I still put it?
So we can see what is the best
Yes lol
It's 4 seconds at level 140 of complete immunity to damage, which is probably longer than Lucius lasts vs him
Get a 141 crystal ASAP though, it's huge for heroes liek Brutus and Arden
7 seconds immunity for Brutus
Any help please ?
@last flicker honestly I'd just go Brutus, Saveas, Khasos, Lyca and Nemora
You have great team potential
141 also is big for Khasos, an extra 6% to all Maulers life leech