#lineup-help
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@coral solar just got pummeled. Who shud I lvl or evenly lvl?
Try to ascend otherwise @lapis sand and try to focus on factions bonuses
@pale kettle if you replace nemora and niru in your top 5 and put Lucius and nemora in crystal and put your top5 101+ for that extra ult lvl
I meant mirael and niru for Lucius and nemora mb @pale kettle
Hey all, I’m super new to the game. Would love any advice on my current lineup. Thanks!
why is everyone getting Shemira at early game and why don't I :(
I got shemira on my first pull lol
@steep flicker switch lyca with silvina
@pale kettle shemira not that good early game no stress 😉
I'll farm her in the lab store
I don’t even have her yet I’m lvl 90 @pale kettle
Well if Belinda and Arden can carry me till i get her i will be happy
Arden L+ op af lol
if i have one more arden in my pulls i can put him L
Use Lucius/estrilda @frail pulsar
I do, but they die really fast
Brutus otherwise he has immune
@coral solar i passed with luck, belinda ulted 0.1 sec before that Silvana was going to ult and kill her
Yea sometimes is rng
i only have 0 stars blue equipment for Arden thats why he's still a bit weak i think
So @coral solar, you're tellin me to use all 4 of them with Brutus/Estrilda/Lucius?
Brutus/Lucius estrilda/Lucius estrilda/Brutus
Okay...
Still at 15-40, any tips/suggestions? I hate all GB teams lol
@livid terrace
Arden
Shem
Nemora
Brut
Lyca
Need to charm ferael.
@livid terrace put nemore in the middle use arden instead of brutus and hope for a charm on ferael
formation would look like this:
arden
shemira
nemora
lyca
tasi
Probably underleveled but any tips ?
its 16-20 right?
saw a video where someone used
arden
shemira
lyca
brutus
tasi
any help on 11-36?
@fierce fjord Used your formation, got it. Tysm. Could you explain why I had to charm Ferael?
My guys are pretty underlvl for this chapter. Who should I I lvl
@livid terrace cause he does his fear on 3 enemys and give them the energy regen debuff
edit: idk why everyone beats it in ~5 trys it took me nrly 200 tries to finaly get it
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oh okay I'm done with progression xD got from 15-16 to 16-20 today xD bought 2 M gear for shem from lab
i finished 2 chapters this week and am now stuck at 16-20 too
I'm gigastucked at 10-22, tips?
@sharp escarp Have Nemora?
@indigo jolt nop
@sharp escarp get arden to 141 before ira. Why is tasi frontlining too. Brutus hogan frontline, Arden mirael ira backline
@sharp escarp can try swapping poisitions of hogan and Brutus, I think brutus can kill niru before he gets all his health back
Same question as before. How can i win agains that?!
@naive tide can’t see the full team u have.. u need some serious cc tho, Arden would be good, probably better than nimusu.
Why is Arden strong? he feels so weak and I have him at L+
You probably need either super strong CC to shit the Verdans or all tanks to negate the assasin chick
Rest of the champs
@hollow rune he can shut down two enemies at a time with an ability other than his ultimate, so he’s a consistent and continuous source of CC
@hollow rune he is so strong because he can root 3 people.. only 2 enemies will be attacking you
He caps at L+ but his CC is just so constant that I think that probably will only matter in late game. He’s my MVP honestly, even if I’m he’s not getting all the levels my DPS units are
@naive tide u can also try baiting the silv’s with a weaker hero in front that u don’t mind dying and putting tanks right behind to dominate the silv‘s and vedan
Need help forming a team
Hiya any help with 11-28
And idk if u know this, but if u know you’re going to lose the battle u can exit it quickly before it ends and it will reset your hero’s health
@hollow current thoran vedan frontline, Arden lyca tasi backline. If u get more copies of savaes max him out he can carry u
@weak fiber did u try having your savaes tank instead of lyca
@hollow current thanks dan
@scarlet kraken still shit maybe I'm too low
@weak fiber maybe, you could try Hogan brutus frontline, Belinda fawkes savaes backline if you want
Need help forming a team
I don’t think I will never beat 9-20 😒 https://imgur.com/gallery/eboSqCd
Why your legendary lvl 1....
Any help with 18-40? I tried Arden instead of nem but he doesnt ever get roots off, just gets rooted and dies. Also moved them around a bit without success
Try Lucias/brutas and Belinda/Arden/Shemira
is eirons pull faster than ardens root? if yes that could work or athalia so u dont get insta rooted @harsh spoke
@sour coral I am new to the game
Jack you and me are the same chapter lol
I can’t send pics it’s too many@mb to send 😦
Lol 8-16?
Need help forming team
Im@stuck on 5-28
11-32 suggestions?
@fierce fjord Eironn is suicide, ogi just destroys everything from the inside 😦 I'll give athalia a few tries to see if it looks promising thanks
Probably underleveled but any tips?. Private message me
Need help forming team
@harsh spoke gl got no other idea 😦
@lapis sand Try Ira, Tasi and Arden in the back with Warek and Hogan
Ok ty
Any lineup tips? I’ve been struggling with just Ogi frontline so I moved Shemira up too, the Kaz/Silvina backline felt awful so I put in Saveas and Lyca
I also am thinking of ascending Lucius to replace Ogi, but idk if that’s worth 0 faction bonus
help pls, stuck in 6-36, i seem to be completely rekt there
@fading notch
-Dont level green heros, when you get them usually you just put them in the rickety cart
-you only want to level 5 main hero's put others in the resonating crystal
i keep greens for bounties
I'd also level saveas to be your carry
arden is quite strong at 81 too with his 2 roots
I would say for now just use
Belinda
Nemora
Saveas
Lucius
Estrilda
so the faction bonuses aren't that good to be prioritized?
This comp will give you the 3 bonus
Hey guys, I’m hardstuck on 6-8 against a legendary Brutus, and can’t seem even get close to beating the level. Am I optimizing my leveling correctly?
I would say level saveas a little more like 2nd to shem but you should be fine
Stage 11-32 has been kicking my teeth in for a week. Assuming no good pulls in the Tavern over the next few days, is there anything I can do to get over this hump?
okay thanks for the input @pale kettle @reef zinc
Dont worry about it cheif
@pale kettle Sorry, I should’ve included this. Is this remotely close to a good lineup? Only using hogan Bc I don’t have a good secondary tank.
@feral coral
Savaes
Shem
Belinda
Estrilda
Hogan
Thank you, I'll give that a go
Also @feral coral if that doesnt work send me the picture of enemy line up
Would it be worthwhile for me to reset my brutus/Sav and make my shemira 161 and the rest 121? I'm stuck on 11-36 so got zero mythic gear and only 2 pieces of leg for shemira as well. I have enough hero essence to 161 shemira
For 161 I am pretty sure all heros need to be 140
can someone help me with 11-16? 😦
I would say put shem as you bottem frontline instead of Mirael and put Mirael in the middle
11-24, could use some help
Hey @pale kettle -- still getting rocked. Here's the opposition
@pale kettle still getting clapped even with that formation.
@pale kettle you might just have to wait to level and ascend, try to get better gear and level gear
that’s been the plan, stuck on this for a week now though. normally someone gives me a better lineup which i rearrange and beat the stage ez 😦
This is my line up, it got me all the way to 12-16
@feral coral Maybe replace Shem with Brutus
Thanks, will give it a go
Still not working out. Oh well, I'll hope to the RNG for some upgraded ascension. Thanks for the help
Any chance someone could help, posted a few back
@proper lodge reset the others to make them 121 then put all your exp to saveas then use
nemora
brutus
tasi
saveas
arden
try to make saveas 160 asap @proper lodge
Been stuck here a few days. Any suggestions or simply not strong enough yet?
Who tf created that hell of a stage ? Any help
Saveas should have estrilda lvls, faweks for raine @subtle frigate
In these two pics, who's priority to ascend to legendary. Can any of them a composition of Saveas Belinda Warek?
should i reset thoran to boost lucius?
Move your support away from brutus
@hasty night try running lucious Hogan Shem mirael Es. Run lucious and Hogan front line with Shem top right es middle and mirael back bottom
@rough sun just wait till you unlock resonating crystal
@robust snow ascend heroes which can allow you to epic+. None of the heroes you can currently ascend you will use
i have the crystal now but i am stuck lol
@pale kettle don’t run wilder against mauler squad. You will get wrecked. No idea who else you have but from what I can see run lucious belong es if you have a fawkes and a high damage
Stuck? @rough sun @subtle frigate saveas top back lucious front top athalia back middle Belinda back bottom and es front bottom
So just save them for when I get a good hero @steep cape sc?
@robust snow yessir get your heroes to epic+ and wait. You’re in no rush. If you had some legendaries already I’d say push another so you can prep for mythic but no point at your level. Vedan and niru are complete garbage . Silva is okay but I never liked her. Arden is great in a mauler comp for kinda mid game or late early game. Kaz again mixed reviews but I never liked
@steep cape nope I die even faster
Which guy is the one inflicting the mass damage @hasty night
Also who else do you have for heroes?
Its khaos with his twin axe throw. Thoran Arden Raine safiya
Thats it really. All the other rares too. And Isabella.
nvm on being stuck lucius is op even when a bit underleveled wrt resonating crystal
with regards to
@rough sun perfect 👌 @hasty night focus saveas on the side (he should be main focus in the upcoming days) that being said you’re gonna want satfiya in your team as a support. Mirael is your best chance at damage right now if you can keep her alive. Es is a crap tank that I only use in very specific circumstances. Lucious is fantastic but needs his ult to go off to be useful.shem can carry you to chapter 7 easily. Get her to lvl 101 as soon as you can. Nemora imo is completely useless early game so is the archer chick and raine. Tasi is great if you can keep her alive. You’re missing a couple key elements to make your teams aurora useful :/ that was my best guess to help based on what you have. I used my shem with mirael to get past that stage back in the day but my shem was over lvl 100 so was mirael and I had a fawkes to make Brutus disappear. May just have to wait for some better heroes to come along
@steep cape so level safitya and saveas, Lucius and Shem. Can i replace mirel with Belinda when I get her? Also, doesn't this team have no faction bonus?
Who should I ascend Lyca, Nemora or Tasi to Mythic first?
Sorry, the real 17-20. So tired of Kaz, Silv, and Ogi...
Any tips on my line up? I'm one shemira off of legendary+ :x
@hasty night like I said buddy you are missing a couple key pieces to have a faction bonus. Ideally you will get another decent light or mauler and you can run a 3-2. But for now those are by far your best chances. And yes Belinda to replace mirael
@burnt knot tasi or Lyca - leaning more towards tasi.
Can anyone help me find my best lineup and what heroes I should go for
What should my lineup be??
What lab relics you have?
Drop tasi for belinda.
@pale kettle I don't believe Tasi's ultimate or banish abilities work on Wrizz, so she is kinda useless
^
Yea, I used her on the fight before, I just hadn’t moved anyone around yet because I wasn’t 100% sure on what would be needed. Should I leave two tanks? Or put in like eironn or raine?
Can drop athalia for raine as well.
Can I fight wrizz with two teams?? I could always use a duras tear I suppose
@pale kettle The trick is to get in as much damage as fast as possible. Is seems that after a little while he just goes nuts and doesn't lose any health. I would keep athalia and go for a damage dealer to replace tasi
No, its one and done so be ready to pause and retry if youre about to lose.
Without waiting a while AFK for xp and such to lvl them up, I’m still stuck >.<
Also who should be put here and or removed 😂
Need some help on this one
Stuck at 7-36, assuming I just need to get my whole team to 101+ but would appreciate any input. Here's my main lineup, and my available heroes.
Considering swapping Baden for Niru but he falls apart so easily unless the stars align
@wanton spoke
Try
Sav
Lucius
Tasi or Arden
Hogan
Belinda
@steep hull
Enemy formation?
Help for 12-40?
@indigo jolt knew I forgot something, my bad.
@steep hull Try
Nara
Baden
Shemira
Estrilda
Belinda or Silvina (see who she jumps)
@indigo jolt I'll give it a go. Silvina will target Arden but it makes Ogi turn around and attack her every time I've used her. Maybe useful to buy time for Shemira and Belinda ults. Thank you 😁
Maybe then swap Nara and Silviana spots, to try get resets going.
Good idea, thank you again.
didn't work @indigo jolt. Any other ideas?
Try full Lb team.
Or
Lyca
Sav
Tasi
Hogan/Lucius
Arden
closest I've gotten was with Lyca, Hogan, Arden, Lucious, Belinda
Nemora in to charm ferael. @wispy vine
nemora in for who?
tasi gets her ultimate with call..so hard to leave her out @indigo jolt
arden
shemira
nemora
lyca
tasi
i think i just need to level up a bit. Thank you for your help @indigo jolt
any ideas ??
I need help who should I ascend or focus
This is everyone I have
I literally have got fucked by pulls
Any help?
Need some help with my lineup
Like usual, been skipped over. 17-20 anyone?
There's noone even giving advice... doesnt mean you were skipped lol
It does because I posted mine like an hour ago and everyone skipped me...
Almost 2 hours ago now, my bad...
Optimal crew with this group?
Two hours and one person gave advice to someone who they had been talking to for a bit, besides that I had seen No advice given, just people posting they need help. People have lives, they cant sit here and moniter and help every single little person, and sometimes people overlook someone, big deal.
Post it again and move on. I've been skipped many times too.
Dont be an idiot. You can easily go through everything here. At least 5 other people were talking. Takes 5 seconds to see the validity of my frustration
Oh now you're going to insulting, I wouldn't help anyone who sits there and whines about needing help then insults the first person that says something, wow, shows great maturity, getting mad over a game.
Anyway I'm done with this, I said my piece, people have lives, noones perfect, stop whining and move on.
Idk.. Feels like Gibraltor has a point. For the ones with enough knowledge to help it wouldnt take longer than a few secs after looking at the pics to say something. Imho its just the nature of Discord. Many joined but left the app runnig in background etc.
You should just look up some guides Gibraltor to help you decide. Thats what I'm doing.. or ask ingame. Faster.
there's also an issue of how far along people are: people might have more progression than others who have asked but not as much as you
well, just what im saying is that just cause a person answers a question, that does not mean they're ignoring the person above, just they may not be able to help that person, or be knowledgable enough to help everyone, but maybe even they were stuck on the same stage as someone, so they know how to help then and there.
i just dont agree with bashing the people who do sit here for a long time and help, if you're really that stuck and noones answering, you could also dm one of the supporters and ask for help if the chats that busy
Guys chill out
Drama quelled? Good lol any ideas on this 9-28 bs?
This is not a chat for discussion
Could someone give me a hand stuck on 6-12 and still not sure what my best lineup I have is
This is a chat for people to advise others, not argue amongst yourselves, definitely not the place to do that
Shem Hogan at front, Bel tasi Arden at back. Should be fine that early with that team imo @chrome ledge
Better than the heroes I had at that point 😅
And don’t use the undead tank guy?
Thoran? He's meh
Really ? Should I just de lvl him and spend more into Hogan then ?
Tbh I'd up shemira
Her damage is very nice thoughout the whole game so levels in her couldn't hurt
@chrome ledge Thoran isn't good until very late game
Cause hogan and shem just fall over so fast 😂
Did you transfer gear from thoran?
Any tips for 16-20? been stuck here for a minute
This isnt even a boss but is being a pain in my ass, any suggestion?
I have just drops 😢
@tough trail I clear that one with this
I feel you @chrome ledge maybe try thoran at the front instead of Shem and drop arden, put Shem in ardens place
Line-up ideas?
@frigid dagger thank you, damn i'm quite a few levels behind
I've got a free pick in the Tavern and 45K from the Lab, are there any heroes that would make my lineup kick more ass, or should I just get copies of the ones I already have?
Hey guys, I just want to confirm if it would be a good idea to sacrifice leg+ Arden to make a mythic Tasi? My other option is to give him to Lyca and make a mythic Lyca. However I seem to be using Tasi more often than Lyca, and already have two e+ Tasis waiting to go for future ascension.
Or should I wait and not kill off leg+ Arden yet? This last mythic would be my 5th 161 char and I am anxious to get it going >.< What I really want is one more Lucious to mythic my lucious and have him be the 5th, but it seems to not be happening, sigh..
Thanks in advance for any advice!
@tough trail Yeah, be patient that one is rly hard, I was lucky in one of more than 200 attempts
I Just got past 16-20. Was a huge pain. Did it with Ascend Brutus, Leg Athelia front line. Mythic+ Shemira, Ascended 2star Nemora, Leg+ Tasi..
is there a reason why naras ultimate never crits?
Yo any tips appreciated
Help pls.
@pale kettle use khasos instead of Belinda
@proud pelican I’m not even getting close though. Feel like I shouldn’t be struggling here. Idk
@pale kettle your team need a aura buff to do better
So what should I do then
Lucius, Belinda, shemira, lyca and Fawkes just an idea but might work plus getting that team boost Is always nice
What should i do? Is belinda someone that could replace another in my lineup?
Depends what stage you on and what’s your team like
I got 135k hero xp, what should I level up?
Floor 60 of human tower
Any suggestions guys? Stage 12-36
Shemira, lyca, Brutus, Fawkes and whatever horse woman is called again
@lament matrix Wilders CC help me past chap 12. You can use them too. Can try either Sav/Shem as offtank, else lyca offtank. My Shem is at Mythic in chap 12 tho.
Yea i’ve been using arden, lyca and nem sometimes
@remote depot I will focus levelling on Sav for now. And try not to spend on upgrading equips. Only upgrade mythic. Example, Carry like Sav level 81, rest of 4 60/61. Spare resources next goes to tank.
Need help on this level any suggestion?
Stuck on 9-20, second lineup. What doth thee suggest?
@lapis sand Hogan vs Brutus. And I usually place nemora vs Brutus lane hoping to charm him. You can try Arden too as he matches well with Lyca. Play around and see how. Lyca can even place as offtank.
@lapis sand in addition to what 9Kc said, in general, don't put Saveas in front of Brutus because he'll waste DPS shooting an invulnerable target; instead try to get him to pick off weaker characters to snowball in your favor
Help pls
@pale kettle do you wanna reset Arden to 141 and pump onto Sav instead? Seems like a waste on Arden to 155.
@sand rune reset Nemora and use Saveas as one of your main leveled characters so he can level past 120; also I beat 9-20 with heroes similar to yours, using Eironn to pull the backline, Nemora + Arden for CC (just gotta try over and over for favorable RNG), Brutus and Saveas
I don’t see much point in resetting Arden and pouring the exp into saveas just bc I tend to use Arden far more often
@pale kettle U can't ascend anyone to leg+? U rly need brutus 141
Can I have some advise on who to focus on?
Unfortunately not :/ @frigid dagger
@fierce kayak my Hogan does too fast idk what to do. I'm tried all these formation still getting screwed
@maiden quest thank you for the suggestion. I’ll give it a shot. I am about 80 Heroes Essence shy of pumping Saveas to 121, hence not resetting yet. But it seems like a good idea to go ahead and do it anyway.
@pale kettle Then wait, Ur team is pretty good, just need more lvl
nemora or seirus? :(
But brutus 7 sec passive is rly importante :( try lucius instead
@lapis sand did nemora charm? Cos Sav is at bot lane too so if they are not root/charm/ banish.. then whoever tanks there will still die.
Rip aight
@lapis sand Sav at level 81 makes a big difference if I not wrong. Spike in power
??😔
@native oasis doesn’t the silv jump onto your tasi? Put tasi infront instead if you’re gonna try that setup. If not I would use brutus frontline instead one of your wilders
@maiden quest like this? Obv Saveas isn’t yet 121, but he gets squashed by the back line Ira.
@fierce kayak my nemora charmed the enemy saveos most of the time
he'll do better at 121 and try and equip him with that one artifact that gives a shield on ult; I basically reset any time Vedan wasn't the first to die
@scarlet kraken tasi lives longer if i put her at the back. who do i replace for brutus
otherwise, my party was almost exactly like yours except that my Arden was legendary and my Saveas was like 125 or something
@lapis sand ic.. with Wilders CC.. You can keep trying for RNG luck/ change postion or afk till Sav is 81 then I think he be good. Else you can repost and see if others can help youm
can't remember where I positioned Eironn, but I think I had him lower down
just play with it and see which positions get you farther
Will do. I see Arden’s potential in this level.
Eironn has been in my top three heroes since ive had him.
don't forget to pull gear off your best heroes if they're not being used in the current formation and equip it to whoever you're using atm
@fierce kayak thank you so much!
Could I get any help with this?
What should my lineup be?
@remote depot I'd say Brutus and Hogan in front and Saveas, Arden, and Tasi in the backline
@maiden quest no shemira? Is she only better when legendary and higher
I think the consensus of players with more progression is that there are better options until Shemira hits 161
Line up is the first 5
I'm on 6-28 should i upgrade my belinda for anyone or nah
Tasi's survivability and CC is godmode, Saveas' DPS is beast, and Arden's CC is hugely helpful, although I guess he only roots 1 at your level iirc, so you might be able to swap him for someone else
What should my line up be? Who should I focus on?
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@ember bane maybe have Lucius instead of thoran, neither thorans level rarity aren't higher than the enemy.
Maybe Belinda instead of shemira(idk) so u can get a faction buff
@hasty night already tried Lucius and Belinda not work well
Still can’t beat 9-20. By far the most annoying yet. Nearly 2 full days now.
@ember bane Try Silvina instead nemora
@frigid dagger it worked well but stuck here
Any suggestions? 11-20, I feel like this chapter has been quite long. I spent like 5 days in 11-18 and now I’m stuck here again.
Any suggestions for this lineup? Kinda pwned by niru and vedan

@exotic falcon get used to it. You will be stuck for weeks and months
If I get stuck for weeks I’ll leave the game. I am not that patient
Suggests on positions and units for this? Ive been stuck here for a while...
Who should I focus on leveling?
I’m getting to the point where my Wilders team isn’t cutting it anymore. Who should I be using?
Stuck at 6-4
@remote depot #classic-questions
@rancid current Please add your formation vs the enemy, so the advice will be more specific and helpful. ^^
@urban egret ^, But also share your hero roster, for more specific advices!
my roster
@candid turtle Hello!
Have you received your answer / passed the stage yet? If not, let me know!
that L lyca and belinda lmfao
@urban egret Share your formation vs the enemy's so I can give out the best advice, as I forgot the enemies at that stage 😅
Got past it, but im stuck on 11-28 now.
@candid turtle (Same 😂 )
Yikes xD any tips for what I have?
@candid turtle Arden to 141, RNG match
Noted xD should I drop lyca back to 121?
@wise merlin I’m thinking I might just be at the point where my only choice is pushing for ascended or waiting until I have more mythic gear.
@urban egret Swap Athalia for Saveas
Swap Lucius and Hogan's positioning.
If that doesn't help, place Lyca instead of Estrilda and put Estrilda up against Brutus, and Lucius against Golus.
ok i’ll try
@rancid current Swap Lucius and Shemira's positioning.
Swap Lucius out with Lyca.
Hopefully Shemira won't die instantly by Khasos and Ankhira and I think you'd be fine by then :x
Any tips for 8-20 thanks
ayyy it worked thanks nicky
@subtle gull swap Thoran for Ogi, or Ulmus, to ensure faction advantage.
Swap Ferael for Athalia, guaranteeing a stun and interruptions onto Niru.
Swap Vedan for Saveas, to increase DPS
@urban egret Welcome 😁
Best of luck!
Everyone's melting within seconds, I think I might just have to spend a week or two leveling. :' D
@wise merlin sorry about that and thanks for your help! Here’s who I have and what I’m stuck on. I know my leveling is all over the place; I’m planning on resetting them and leveling saveas to 80 then 4 others to 61
@rancid current I wish you nothing but the best pulls!
May RNGesus be with you 🙏
@remote depot Hello!
Your formation should look like this:
Saveas
Hogan
Shemira
Ulmus
Athalia
@remote depot For future reference, never put your damage dealers against enemy heroes who can nullify it.
For example, Brutus, Khasos (later on in the game, his lifesteal is massive), Vedan, etc.
So I was wondering for a basic team comp to level and push til I need to worry about this stuff later.
@wise merlin thanks for the tip! I only put Vedan in the frontline because his ultimate is super fast for me and my tanks die super quick so vedan kinda stalls haha
@remote depot Do know that once Vedan uses his ultimate move, your backline is exposed and can be deleted if not taken with care, since Vedan is untargetable and ignored by enemies.
@wise merlin true, I usually just put a tank behind him haha. Beginner logic but I’m learning and I won’t do it again haha
@remote depot Just for future reference, the early game has many different tactics and has multiple ways to pull them off!
Your current tactic might help but not too far on!, PvE gets very unfair as it goes further on, so it's better to have a Plan B ^^
Also is athalia really worth using at this level?
Yes, to make sure Saveas won't instantly kill your underlevelled Ulmus*
True, thank you so much for your help!
Anytime, dear 
athalia gets better mid to late game so id save her
Any help on who to focus besides saveas? My backline is dying fairly quickly and my healer doesnt heal enough
@wise merlin I can almost clear it but I think I’m just undergeared imma have to afk for awhile lol thanks for the help 
@subtle gull Okay! Best of luck with passing it! 😁 
@sacred turret Hogan > Numisu > Vedan > Lyca
Next time, #classic-questions ^
Thank you, this is the recommended allocation of resources atm right? I saw some people place Ira over Lyca
@sacred turret Lyca isn't as useful when you don't have DPS, so you'd switch her out for a DPS hero (as you've mentioned, Ira.)
But if they have enough (about 3) DPS sources, Lyca can also be a Frontline to ensure haste and energy generation speed will increase to them all.
@sacred turret Lyca isn't as useful when you don't have DPS, so you'd switch her out for a DPS hero (as you've mentioned, Ira.)
But if they have enough (about 3) DPS sources, Lyca can also be a Frontline to ensure haste and energy generation speed will increase to them all.
And yes, it is the recommended priorities of resources investments. ^^
Hello, I am stuck on level 6-28, and it is so bad that none of my heros can even get their ultimates off before dying. Please help
Flew past 6-28, stuck on 6-32, Brutus 2 gud. Any suggestions?
@void depot nice heroes for start :p
@void depot Hey there! ^^
Allow me to introduce you to a 4 pages long guide that is included in Aerostati's message, within the pinned messages of this chatroom!
It will help you clear the entirety or chapter 6.
(Personal input: it sure did help me pass it all, after reading it thouroughly 😁 )
@pale kettle thx. All im missing is a good frontline
@wise merlin thanks ill read that. Im new here obviously so 
@void depot well dont make faweks highest lvl in team, he just makes cc donest carry
@void depot Of course! ^^
I’m kinda stuck here any advice would help. I have gems and a open spot on crystal
Looks to me like you need a tank lol
Ulumus has the heals for a tank and can get high damage for Nemo to heal with my current setup just need a new layout I guess
So the most powerful ones are my team ( i just started), which of the new ones should i replace and which ones should i keep in my team for now?
@languid mauve I'd replace Mirael for Hogan (Only once you've unlocked a feature called "The Resonating Crystal" as for when passing 4-36*)
4-36 actually is when you unlock it
Lol.
thank you @open mural
Focus on Nara or Baden? Can I use Isabella as food when time comes or is she too good?
i'd say nara cause baden is getting a nerf @mystic willow
I liked Baden’s graphics😅 ok Nara it is then
So I am deciding wether to 101 my units - the selections are Tasi, Lucian, Nemora, or Shemira
post your units and everything so it's better to see @open cairn
i'd say nemora for the better charm, and the fact that she can go up to 140 @open cairn
Ok ty
@pale kettle post your other heroes too
Do you guys suggest to bring units up to max solo or bring units up together (level them equally)?
Together
i got a question, i have saveas leg+, belinda leg, ogi leg+, isabella leg+ and estrila leg. but i just received nemora and ive read that shes a really good healer. for which one do i need to replace her? (nemora is just normal purple for now
how many lab tokens do you have? @pale kettle
@open cairn for your level i'd say one carry is best, then once you have them established go for evenly leveling.
@Zero.WnD#0002 if you post your full team it'd be better to help
Still somewhat new. This is my current lineup. Any suggestions?
And that one carry should be Brutus to max level right? Or should it be Lucian since he’s higher level cap?
87530 @open mural
@shy basalt i think for you it's best to use brutus ogi front with saveas arden tasi back, changing your entire lineup. Saveas is the best carry at lower levels and nemora ogi arden for the faction bonus
@haughty hull the saveas is reaaaaally good inna 1v2, 1v2 etc. give him the first artifact (a shield damage reduction or something). he is still my biggest winner as of now, 1v2/3 a lot of matches
@pale kettle who have you been buying with the tokens?
Serius
@open mural but my brutus dies in like 5 seconds of battle if he is in front, i tried him before
And then dust and crystals
@shy basalt do you not have enough dust to push him to 141?
@pale kettle don't buy anything other than shemira and nemora in the lab shop. You're close to 2 shemiras so i'd say get her next to start building her for the transition from early to mid game
help
@open mural well i will if i need to get rid of 2/3 people 😂
I don't have shemira, only nemora 
i mean like push the crystal past 141 for brutus
All right, @shy basalt
maybe put estrila in front as a tank, and lucius in her place since he is the best healer/shielder
So in terms of carrying my team. Should I pump Lucian or Brutus and to what level?
@haughty hull i have him at lvl 148 now i believe as an legendary plus, he still owns against 3 sometimes a complete mythic team
@urban egret put your 5 highest ascension heroes as your 5 to level up and throw everyone else in the crystal.
@open cairn use shemira as a carry. start building her in the lab store. Meanwhile i'd say get saveas up, as his damage is enough to carry you through the early stages
I guess I could focus leveling him up over the others
@open mural can you tell me again one more time what my new lineup should be?
I’m at stage 7-23 what level should I pump Semira to?
@haughty hull do you have the first artifact? the damage reduction shield. give that to him
firstly reset everyone to 120 and get saveas to 160. Don't bring anyone but him up if you can't reach a level milestone because of a dust cap. secondly, brutus ogi front, then saveas nemora arden would be the best bet @shy basalt
took a screenshot of that so its easier to look back at, thanks!
haha you're welcome
who should I ascend?
nemora @pale kettle then get another and ascend her to L+
ill hope for another one then 😂 is it worth it to get her from labyrinth or keep saving for shemira since I need 3 more for an ascended shemira
@open mural can i ask, whats good about arden?
3 roots at level 141 that prevent the enemies from moving, casting, attacking, and dodging. on three separate people
i personally like his root, being able to root 2-3 people and disabling them for that time can buy time for your peoples
@shy basalt put your highest ascension heroes as your top 5, so estrila and belinda can go past 100, but nemora and brutus can't. You put nemora and brutus in the resontating crystal to push them past skill barriers.
I've got a free pick in the Tavern and 45K from the Lab, are there any new heroes I should get or should I just get copies of the ones I already have?
Trying again.. Stuck here at 6-32, any recommendations? I already have the recommended Lucius Brutus lead, and I think my BL is as good as it can get..? What can I do from here?
The dream team. I'm not that far so 8 cant answer but that's a nice lineup
@open mural do i give org or brutus the ult speed artifact (10 points per second)
Ogi, give brutus the other ones.
Anyone got tips on how to beat this?
i have saveas with the shield artifact, nemora with the 10 energy per second and i have the third one (attack speed after crit) left
put saveas on the bottom @delicate pelican behind brutus, try to kill ankhira first.
@Zero.WnD#0002 i would give brutus grace, then give eye to saveas for more attacks per second
@delicate pelican put estrila top front instead of the knight guy, remove him so u get resources back and put those in saveas, maybe..
@open mural and call?
call on nemora is fine
That worked, thanks @open mural !!
you're welcome aha
Well i put estrilda instead of nemora but i tried different combinations too and just putting sav down there made it work lol
yeah basically have sav kill their damage and by the time he's through the rest of the enemies will be dead as well @delicate pelican
Need help for 8-32
help
:/
7-36
Need help forming team
@fleet heron @urban egret show your heroes too
@restive tangle i think brutus ogi/seirus then shem nemora athalia backline could work. focus isabella first
Ok but what about this now
these are my heroes
@open mural
Suffering.jpeg send help ;-;
maybe try brutus thoran then saveas safiya then shemira @fleet heron
Been stuck on 11-40 for a couple days now, any suggestions?
Crying lol okay I guess I'll just wait til I have more hero exp and level some boiz up and cross my fingers
Can anyone help me make a team ?
@stark coral how well does your shemira survive? i'd say either athalia + belinda + lucius (for lightbearer faction bonus) or athalia + nemora + arden (for wilders faction bonus), as nemora and lucius have similar roles. then def add in saveas because he's the best damage dealer at this level -> pick the last member depending on what fits
To everyone posting lineup questions- go to lineup help. This isn’t the chat for that.
the name of this channel is lineup help, though?
was about to ask for some advice, too, don't want to annoy anyone though
Release me of my plight. I wish to bask in the magic that is others doing my level for me
8-32 stuck any help?
@trim moat swap estrilda to khasos
Oh fuck haha I’m sorry I’m tired as fuck and must not have realized I was in this chat- I usually stay in questions chats my bad guys
@pine prism you’re good dude that’s on me
😂😂 well rip
@crystal dragon use eiron instead of estrilda and put him where belinda is
Niru and silvina are just to strong i can’t do anything even with khasos any other advices anyone?
@narrow thicket you gotta wait for Nicky no idea bout ascended power levels 😅
@trim moat put Belinda middle and swap mirael to athalia top
Might help with niru
When I have enough Labyrinth currency to buy Shamera again (45000) am I supposed to refresh the store at the cost of 1000 gems?
@open cairn go to #classic-questions
@lusty nimbus thanks that worked out lol
8-21 stuck any help? Pm me
Any suggestions?
What should I do with this lineup?
I’m on 5-32 and I’ve tried various different combinations of units and rotating them around a bit. That bottom right spear chucked dude always seems to eat my lunch as the last man standing whenever I find a setup that otherwise works optimally. Any ideas? I do have one free slot in RC.
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@ember bane u tried arden instead nemora already?
@frigid dagger need Nemora to heal
@ember bane
U tried
Tasi
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Nemora?
Do you have lyca maybe try her for nemora then
I've been stuck at this stage for like 3 days now, can someone pls help me
https://i.imgur.com/8MjYIn2.jpg
@deft nebula Read this and do what it says 😃
@ember bane I understand, what marcl12 said it's a very strong comp, try that one
Lol @ancient hound was just searching the screenshot lul
Haha ^^
how do i make the most of this?
@ancient hound How am I supposed to manually replace them.
@deft nebula Remove the L and one E+ hero from the crystal. Reset the E heroes & put them in crystal. Level up the L and E+ hero.
was that for me @ancient hound ?
@glossy rune if you go 4 lightbearer with Arden / saveas, faction bonus will get u far in early stages
Something like this
Saveas/Arden
Lucius
Mirael
Hogan
Thane
@viscid hazel thank you so much. going to reset and rebuild cause i was currently stuck at 5-20
Someone mind helping me? :3
@glossy rune keep in mind tho position 1 gets targeted by 3 so maybe switch Lucius and hogan around sometimes cause hogan is e+
@low bridge be so kind and post ur full heroes 
@frigid dagger it worked ty but not working on this
@low bridge
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Warek
Shemira
Suggestions based on whom I have? I’m doing my best to make sure everyone has at least E+ gear in every slot while slowly replacing with L gear.
Thanks for the help so far guys! :)
@low bridge or try this if previous doesnt work
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
@viscid hazel while im on the topic of resetting how should i distribute the levels to that line up you gave me
@ancient hound I will try, thank you!
@gloomy haven don't go full L gear. Save up for Mythic. Maybe get weapon on your carry L/L+ but no more.
@glossy rune savers and mirael ~10 lvls higher than rest I guess don’t known exactly look for skill lvls on your dps
At the moment my lineup is the 5 at the top. Considering the heroes I have, do you guys have any suggestions for improvements?
@ancient hound The latter worked out, tahnks a lot!
@ancient hound can i suggests me a team ty
@lucid grove consider running 3rd wilder for faction bonus instead of morvus. Maybe use ira for now
@ember bane
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Saveas
Nemora
You might have to try couple of times, make sure Nemora charms Saveas. Pretty sure u should make it.
Sidequest @ancient hound any ideas 
Any ideas? Getting rekt here
@shrewd shadow shemira up front and replace hogan with Tasi / Arden
@viscid hazel doesnt seem to help much. Lucius insta dying
@shrewd shadow don’t know if your shemira can tank saveas did u swap those 2
I feel you on that unascended lucius
@ancient hound i tried many times but didn't work
Saveas
Brutus
Athalia
Vedan
Arden
@crystal rapids
@viscid hazel seems like no1 is able to Tank him 😂 shemira also dies pretty Quick on top
My shemira dies near instantly when I have her in the front, so I hear ya lol
@shrewd shadow use Brutus then. Use the line up I told ya with Brutus for Lucius
@gloomy haven unlucky, overlevel her

Any ideas? 14-34
@ember bane what is the problem with the line-up?
I have her (Shemira) in crystal atm and was overleveling Silvina atm... should I switch that and have her my highest? I have 4 at 100 and Silvina at 133
@ancient hound Saveas Nemora dies quickly, need to kill enemy Saveas fast
@gloomy haven shemira is only epic do you can’t level her over 100 on her own. Only with the crystal 
Gotcha so she's fine where she's at then 😂
Any ideas? 8-40
@atomic thicket if you post a pic of the stage it’s a pleasure for me to suggest a line up
Stuck on 11-40 some tips are welcomed
@viscid hazel ofc, sorry
@atomic thicket
Nemora (replay few times to charm Brutus)
Brutus
Tasi
Thoran
Atahlia
Enemy silvina needs to go on Tasi tho give her lower gear than Nemora
@vivid stag consider running Fawkes instead of Nemora u will keep x3 faction buff with maulers
Hmmm havent considered that ima try it thx
@vivid stag Play around with his positioning tho cause trapped enemies spawn in front of him afterwards.
Ye but the only problem is that i don't have the items for him xD
@viscid hazel I'm impressed, first try. Thank you alot!
Who's better: Shemira or Bellinda?
@atomic thicket lol ofc no need to thank me, I’m here to help
@grizzled lodge i would go shemira 10 out of 10 times but some ppl like Belinda. I think she’s only good lategame ascended +
ok thx
Any suggestions?
@brittle summit Brutus instead of estrilda and Fawkes on top Belinda middle
U lack dmg in your line up
Try
Tasi/Arden
Hogan
Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
@viscid hazel thane not enough? Is he bad?
Thane is decent but Belinda has more dps
All my hero died in 20 seconds, i think need level up, right?
I can't beat this
@willow merlin what’s the problem?
@dusky sage I’d try shemira up front. Estrilda can’t really tank saveas.
Do you have a mauler hero for crystal khasos for example?
Estrilda
Shemira
Khasos!?
Brutus
Saveas
@mild bobcat Tasi for Nemora for cc ? If that doesn’t work
Athalia
Brutus
Lyca? Unsure
Shemira
Saveas
@viscid hazel https://streamable.com/47tei
@viscid hazel thanks!
@willow merlin yep that looks like u need to lvl up
unlucky, wait 1or 2 days and u will beat it
U are also close to 101s that’s pretty huge for a lot of heroes
@viscid hazel what do u prefer? Leveling up saveas till 120, or leveling other till 101?
Saveas 120
@viscid hazel thanks
Then others 101 Lucius 101 is huge cause he gets dmg reduction
Stuck at 10-36, this comp pretty much rushed through chapter 10 but Boss Niru makes me feel like im not dealing damages, I know I need legs and levels, im looking for comp advices
Can i actually beat this lol 😂
Getting wrecked. Need a way to manage Farrells ability
Charm ferael? That what I'd do
Use nemora
Help me get a good lineup from these? (having trouble against Graveborn mostly)
any ideas on how to push passed this? ive mixed it up with arden as well. brutus dies first along with anything else i throw in that slot. just trying to sneak passed this one to finish ch 15 so i will get my 4th shem copy to ascend passed m+
You really need rng. If you can charm ferael you might have the chance
I think I don’t have the level, but does anyone still have an idea ?
Need line-up to defeat them. Pm me
Any help here? Stuck for days no matter what I've tried
Whats a good lineup for this?
was stuck at this 1 hour ago, i was able to make it through with more levels, had 2 heroes on 100 and one 91
Try saveas tasi Belinda as your backline @delicate pelican
doesnt work, guess i'm too weak xD
yeah its a tough battle
@delicate pelican try tasi for saveas
just try to finish everything else, each day and collect the daily exp. You will make it through in a few days
So its like that, if estrilda doesn't push back niru he will cancel ardens root and their arden will root mine, any better ideas?
@delicate pelican Hello.
I would try this formation;
Saveas
Estrilda / Brutus (depends on who survives more)
Tasi
Hogan
Nemora
Refresh so the RNG will have Nemora charm Ankhira resulting in her cc'ing on her own allies, and Tasi not teleporting into enemy line.
Best of luck! 🙏 
oh wait thats actually the level before the golus/brutus stage.
why do i have such bad luck
@pale kettle You can ascend L Hogan using E+ Hogan to L+, and use it on Lucius 😶
hmmm but rly, my luck sucks alot
Lolno
you got lucius x5 times, I got one for free that was a bonus when i started
L Shem, L+ LB fodder ready, Athalia and Ezizh E+, another 2 Lucius and 2 Belinda Clones E+
@pale kettle what stage? you get shemira for peaks of times and for stage 14 complete
@pale kettle Which peaks of time?
@pale kettle 😶 I'm only at the Far Frontier
@wise merlin this are next ones if i read correctly, not sure cuz Im not on english game version
@pale kettle try using raine and timing her ult to go right before silvinas then turn auto on. Tell me how that goes ( put her on the crystal obvi )
6th peaks of time
I use that tactic all the time and it can knock out an entire team in like 10 seconds
yea 7th are the ones you're looking for @wise merlin
@pale kettle try replacing estrilda with ogi
@pale kettle Ok ty ^^
@pale kettle if you use saveas you gotta put him ahead on lvls to carry you, swap lucius and estrilda on spots at least or as the other guy said try ogi, you can even try mirael in middle back for 5 man bonus to lb
The fact is that every formation I use it gets one shotted, this is the best hp/dps formation that I have
I don't have gear for Mirael sadly
helpo XD
Hey guys quick question, is this the best line-up I can try 12-40 with? Tried at least a dozen times but I can't seem to kill brutus and vedan on any try
Been struggling here for 24 hours. Tried many combinations and just think I’m still too weak. Who should I level?
@livid gale just some quick thinking from me here, but maybe you could try to get lightborn faction bonus? maybe switch your arden and serius with belinda and estrilda? the 15% hp and attack is really huge
@wise merlin save me xD
Hit this stage more than a day ago and no luck even when saveas gets banished. Any insight into a switch out or change in lineup that might help? Nicky your lineup got me this far, swapping out shem when required :)
@trail gulch what stage is that?
Use shemira and Brutus ezpz @narrow thicket
Stuck on 16-40. In the past I've reset Shem and swung Khasos to 180 to clear difficult Wilder stages. Think I can get there without that?
@narrow thicket 11-16
I wish I had that pink girl -_-
Your much higher leveled so even with slightly different ascensions you should be fine
Oh no lyca? Sad :(
Yes haha - I am sad, she's the cutest
whats a good counter to ogi?
@azure kite anything that does more damage then he has hp
But if you cant do that then lucius and brutus are good substitutes
Basically anything that benefits from being put up against something that kills slowly
Estrilda.
^
Her push really naisu
Help
Now im stuck at 11-38
@narrow thicket :o?
Any help with 12-12?
@drowsy marlin To pass 12-12 you need level 141 to be your minimum for Crystal.
I'm afraid it's not doable until then
fawkes to legendary or raine to legendary?
Hey, I’ve been stuck on 11-8 for a week or so now and was just wondering if it was my lineup or if I just need to wait on power spikes? I try switching up the order and swapping Safiya for Nara as well but doesn’t seem to help at all
any tips for 17-40??
what's 17-40 @whole bobcat
Stuck here. Any help appreciated.
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Arden
thx
mh gollus knocks my shemira back to fast, so no ultimate use
worked with tasi instead of nemora
8-28 anyone ?
New to the game... can anyone give me some tips? What is my best line up?
I'm feeling that Saveas is reaching it's carry limit. How could I change my lineup ?
@violet igloo sadly you don’t have Tasi but u can try
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Give Arden lower gear so silvina focuses him then gets killed by Brutus
@steel moth I would recommend running 3 graveborns for now probably with hogan and nemora
@viscid hazel I'm really sad I don't have Tasi. I use all my faction scrolls on wilder hero's but no luck.
@steel moth but shemira should be highest level over tanks and supports propably shemira Nara +10 lvls and Thoran nemora hogan bit lower keep saveas around he’s a good carry early as well
@violet igloo sad

Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@ember bane what about
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Saveas / lucius if he gets his ult off
Arden
@viscid hazel should I put Shemira to level 180 or something?
@wise merlin you can pass 12-12 without 141 crystal o.o
My shemira is 180 rest 150-160 I’m running solo carry shemira with Brutus and wilders works quite well

I passed it with 120 crystal
180 or 181?
180 not enough gb fodder
And mythic is capped at 180
@violet igloo since u dont have tasi i dont know if it works that well tho
15-36
Feelsbadman. And I would need 2 tasi at least.
Any advice
@viscid hazel do you put Duran's call on Shemira?
@violet igloo i usually use the immunity or the crit
@robust magnet i beat 15-40 with brutus in place of lyca, then forced nemora to charm farael, i.e. reset whenever she doesn't
Just pulled athalia , include her or stick with the mailer bonus of top line?
@primal torrent why not put shemira instead of tasi u get x5 maulers
u can also run tasi lyca athalia + saveas and khasos
Thanks @viscid hazel
@steel moth did u beat ur stage?
What should I focus on? I got faction scrolls.
@narrow thicket SMH.
@wise merlin 
Nope @viscid hazel. But it’s good to know that u prioritize the damage dealer instead of the tanks and supports
was a pleasure to help u
I am stuck on floor 119 and campaign 9-20. Is it that my team is lacking levels or I am using the wrong guys?
Any help here? Stuck for days no matter what I've tried. Pm
@viscid hazel I just bought 120 elites stones and got 2 trash graveborn heroes and also 10x summon and didn't even get an epic. This game can be so frustrating
I expect that kind of stuff to happen. I used to play other afk games and it was the same. Even when I did get a good summon, I could never get duplicates of what I needed. I just learned to take a step back and make due with what I have.
I do t get why I cant beat this punk in lab, she just stomps my team no matter what I try
@primal torrent ya i heard theres a bug that she dodges everything
Try using yours against her lol
Haha. I might lol. Not looking like I'm gonna get a reward this lab
This lab I had to use 4 vials to best it.
WE NEED CALLUM
@viscid hazel does gb fodder mean garbage fodder?
@restive tangle definetly put shemira front and athalia vs niru
nemora
shemira
seirus or ulmus or ira w.e any wilder
brutus
athalia
@violet igloo gb means graveborn
Ty
The top 5 should still be the team I use, right? I wanna switch it up but they're probably still the best options, right?
I stuck (8-40), any help?
Mmm still stuck 11-16. Lucious seems to die right off the bat 50% and then athalia - any ideas?
@pale kettle hahaha yeah, that tasi lyca shemira is crazy good
@spring igloo maybe brutus shemira athalia arden nemora is better
What should my line up be
@pale kettle grezhul can also carry super hard with shemira
@trail gulch put athalia on top, and try shemira instead of saveas, tasi area sleep is good combination for area damage like shemira
Any changes?
@cerulean shore trying now
@cerulean shore no
Can anyone help with mine
what tank should i be using? (any other suggestions are also welcome)
@crisp helm that's kinda hard, that niru silvina with saveas
Also need help with the lineup for this server
Then my hero’s are at the bottom
@broken wedge try to find a way to save arden from silvina i guess
what do you recommend @cerulean shore
Ok
@broken horizon brutus is the best tank, period lol
@crisp helm you just need shemira and you get one of the best line up for now
brutus shemira nemora lyca tasi, tottally great till late game
Any suggestions?
@broken horizon idk if this good
but i prefer something like thoran shemira nemora nara and tasi
@digital hedge do you have athalia?
Yes
maybe athalia lucius belinda arden and tasi will be good
Nope they're dead
oh wait, do you have brutus?
brutus is saveas's counter
have you tried something like hogan lucius eironn arden and bellinda
@digital hedge
that is if eironn suck saveas though
@dull mirage im not sure, your team has a lot of cc but lack of damge i guess
saveas isn't area damage dealer, so even with a lot of cc the fight might be hard
and shemira isnt high level enough, shemira can really tank after level 161
Do me a favour guys and tell me the best 5 out of my pool to make a decent lineup
shemira and tasi is great in late game, but not very much in early.
i think seirus is great too, the damage is decent and the stun is just great.
arden is good, extremely good in level 141.
Ulmus, Seirus, Arden, Kaz, Ira
@dull mirage Hey there!
Have you received an answer and / or passed the level? If not, feel free to ping me! ^^
For right now, that's what I'd do @vague inlet
Arden is good all the way up until 160. Hell, 180 even if you don't get a replacement
Really not sure what to run here, tried multiple things like having double dps to kill vedan, but then niru just destroys the rest of my team. any suggestions? ty
@pale kettle thanks man I’ll give it a go
@young vigil Swap Mirael for Arden, you have enough DPS, not enough cc!
Hi @wise merlin, probably as what @cerulean shore said, my heroes lack for area dmg heroes, it's kinda hard for me to kill vedan and niru, my Belinda kinda weak
@dull mirage Okay, best of luck to you! ^^
Is there a better lineup I can use?
@fading cipher I'd say Nemora bottom, to charm Estrilda so you can stop her charging your team and steal her inspire
Tasi out
@fading cipher Best gear on Brutus, best gear on Shemira, upgrade them both as much as you can but prioritize mythic gear for more probable damage.
13 summons in 2 weeks = 2 elite card. afk sucks
@abstract belfry Better than 1 elite card. 😶
@abstract belfry 13? you should be summoning by 10's
yeah by 10
@abstract belfry this isn't the place to talk about your summons
Keep it clear for those that need help please
@broken horizon Means he summoned 130 heroes. 13 times
I see, new account then? I could never get enough to summon that much lol
🤷
@fading cipher 15-40 is waiting for you
I still have a ways to go
can i get some help here? all heroes that are level are shown in the pic, stuck on 7-36
tips?
Tipps?
Been stuck on this. Any help?
stuck here for a while. I just got Shemira up to Legend+, maybe she can replace Saveas? or work together with him?
@versed forge Shem before 161 can't replace Sav in most cases. I use the same team as you almost, with my Shem 161 and will be able to past these stages. Shem replacing Sav position.
I don't think Sav should be bottom, he will die in an instance I guess. Nemora can try be bottom to charm sav or golus
Thoughts? I get to like two enemies left with half health and then lose. I have run it a dozen or so times.
Lucius over Hogan is an obvious one imo
@exotic falcon need to see your full roster. Don't use Hogan.. he is like a snack to GB. Use your tasi. Can try tasi/nemora as offtank.
I’m only 8 days in. That pretty much is my roster. Lol
Tried some different combos still can’t seem to get it. Am I just really under powered? Any thoughts?
@exotic falcon wow.. You whale? Lol. Remove Belinda and Hogan. Use tasi. Another hero can try which works better? Lucius, hellborn, thogan, tasi, nemora.. anyone that won't die as quickly as Hogan.
I will try both your suggestions. What’s a whale in this context? Lol
Pay to play
I am fat if that’s what you mean. 🤷🏼♂️ lol
Everyone said to get Sav to 120 but not working I guess I should reset
@wanton spoke keep everyone else 100/101.. keep pumping Sav till you can't. Then level your tank next.
Try use Arden over tasi. Or use fawkes instead to trap Brutus?
Actually try use fawkes over tasi.
@wanton spoke don’t reset
Ok thanks guys! Will do! Appreciate the help
Use Hogan lucious Fawkes then use sav top back and khaos top mid. Hogan in front of Brutus lucious in front of centaur (cant remember name)
Sav does not do well when forced to face centaur first @wanton spoke
@wanton spoke nvm.. I just realised Siliva is there too...
But Sav top he can't kill Brutus too I think
He should have no issue killing Brutus with Hogan in front
Ok will try these suggestions now
Maybe.. just try @wanton spoke
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Have to play around.. sometimes I also dunno how I get past the stage.. lol..
@pale kettle reset Isabella and put resources to get sav to 160. Put mirael in resonator instead. Then run 3 graveborn sav and either Lyca or Hogan
Any help on 8-40 silvina is destroying my entire team ,niru can’t be killed and if I kill them issabella is cleaning up I tried with Arden \ khasos too
Put sav bottom front or back (try both)
^ @pale kettle
@trim moat run fawkes instead if mirael then switch sav to top back. If fawkes traps brutus then run athalia as well to bring Isabella closer
Brutus isn’t really a problem tbh, he’s trapping Niru, just niru and Isabella left on the ground
16-12, any suggestions?
@livid terrace you need Lyca's haste, try;
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Nem/tasi
(bait for Silvina, will die but you need Arden roots more)
17-24 help pls
@glass oracle Shem top, she should be able to tank Grez, Arden will be more use to you than Tasi for that stage
I fodder my Arden already 😭
You need an Arden ASAP honestly, he will save you so much hassle
I'm in chapter 22 and I still use mine @glass oracle
You definitely don't wanna fodder Arden
I guess rebuild
Yeah, then keep him
I get close to beating it just energy stops regen every time I get close to full
What relics you running?
Shem-call, luci-drape, nemo-grace, lyca-eye
Any ideas?
@glass oracle try frontline Shem and eye on her, the crit helps her out a bunch
And Call on Lucius/Nemora, Grace on the other
@grizzled lodge I'd say if you have a crystal spot, take Fawkes out and put Khasos in the team, it'll amp Saveas dps with the life leech
ok thx
Thanks for help @rugged marten I ll give that a try
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Best possible team (specially for campaign)? I'm currently trying to team Brutus and Saveas with Lucius, Belinda and Fawkes
Been stuck on this. Any help? Pm me
@restive tangle use Athalia to stun important heroes, not just random cannon fodder heroes
@pale kettle there's no single best team, but in general I'd say Brutus, Saveas, Lyca, Tasi, Arden, Belinda and Lucius are your current top heroes for progressing
Stuck on 13-12, any suggestions?
@pale kettle that's an awkward state because Golus and Sav bottom but Brutus up top so Shem will get shredded in either position, try eye on Shem and swap Tasi out for Nemora and try to charm either Vurk out of his poison vial throw so it lands on an enemy or charm enemy Sav so he can kill his team
Any solution for this?
@rugged marten you want me to use Nem/Tasi as bait?
Need serious help. Been stuck for weeks.
@livid terrace yes, Arden root will help you a lot more to suppress the enemy team to buy your Shem enough time to kill the enemy team
@pale kettle drop Saveas, use Brutus
Also put Shem up top, Ira bleed cuts healing by 50%
Any help with 11-32
@weak fiber what Maulers do you have, the ones off screen
Skreg and warek
Ahh nvm then
whatd be a good team for map 10, mostly hypogeans and maulers
141 crystal will be huge when you eventually reach it, turns Ardens root to 3 targets, and Brutus immunity to 7 seconds, you might just need levels honestly, you're running a pretty solid team there, but I'd definitely work on getting 1 Nem from the Lab store when you get the chance to buy 2 in the same month, her charm is super helpful to have access to @weak fiber
Help pls
Good lineup to have?
@obsidian ember Saveas, Brutus, Lyca and Nem would make a staple chunk of your team, then use the 5th slot to switch in heroes that would seem to be most suited to tackle each individual stage, Numisu, Kaz and Serius won't be bad options
@pale kettle tasi out, Nem in, charm Estrilda out of her charge and you can steal her inspire that way too
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Nem
Need help on level any suggestions?
@half terrace swap Lyca and Saveas, you're level capped because Lyca's max level is 100 due to her ascension level, then I'd recommend running mostly Maulers, something like Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, then Nem, Lyca and Belinda, depending on what suits the stage better
ok
@rugged marten u mind helping me out?
Was just waiting for second pic to load lol @lapis sand
Oh mb
If you can immune Brutus relatively early, put Saveas bottom, if not then you need levels or else you won't have the dps to clear the stage without getting overrun
@rugged marten who do I lvl? And swap saveos and nemora spots?
Yes, swap them and focus on getting Saveas to level 100 as he is your main carry, but I'd also try and get level 61 for your crystal so your ascended tier heroes unlock their 4th perk
@lapis sand
Okay thank you
help
@rugged marten wow dude! I really appreciate it. That worked like a charm.
@pale kettle awesome 👍
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@urban egret I'd use Lyca over Arden honestly, her haste is extremely strong, also there's a lot of CC at the bottom so keep your carry (Saveas) away from that, so swap Estrilda and him
You probably just need levels then honestly, unless you're capped on levels, afk to level up heroes is the safest bet to guarantee progress @urban egret
kk
Always worth to give it a bunch of tries to see how rng plays out for you
Also you maxed out your unions for the respective heroes that you are using? They have a great impact once you hit the third upgrade @urban egret
yeah i guess i steam rolled thru the other bosses on chapter 7 this one is just one shotting me cuz of the CC
Unions?
@rugged marten need suggestion
oh yeah i did that as much as i. could. how does that work anyway ?
The Saveas, Numisu and Vurk one grants dodge, 15% crit chance and 10% max health, which is huge for Saveas as his damage is amplified by is health @urban egret
Are there any suggestions for a line up? (Ignore the levels)
@placid dirge that 22-44?
Yes @rugged marten
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
Ask Kyree, cleared it a few hours ago, I'm yet to get to that stage aha 😅 @placid dirge
Any help would be appreciated
any advice on who to ascend to legendary
@rugged marten been working on my wilder and graveborns
The right one @urban egret
Belinda?
@ember bane try getting the faction bonus for your team, it'll help, Khasos has huge amounts of synergy with Saveas so definitely worth throwing him in, also I'd put Hogan in your pentagram, you wanna get that 141 crystal level, it's huge for a lot of heroes
@urban egret dont ascend any of them you need more fodder
ah okay
@wraith jungle tasi out, bait Silvina onto Nemora and out Arden in
Try this;
Lyca
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Nem (bait)
Okay, lemme' give that a shot.
Make sure Nemora has lower defence than Arden of course
I'm a newer player that keeps getting stuck early on, what team would you guys use from what I have to push through to mid game?
@rugged marten Yeah, she served as bait okay. The problem is that I can't seem to get to Vedan in time, and once he goes batty it's game over. He easily wipes everyone but Brutus, but he's left with so little HP that he can't recover.
What relics you running? @wraith jungle
Shem - Dura's Grace, Brutus - Dura's Blade, Lyca - Dura's Eye, Tasi - Dura's Call, Nem - Dura's Drape. That's all I have so far. I honestly haven't given much thought to them.... which I know is kinda' stupid.
@wraith jungle Blade on Shem, Eye on Brutus, Drape on Arden, Grace on Lyca and Call on Nem (if she survives initial Silv burst, if not, then try call on Shem)
But Brutus should almost exclusively have Eye on
Rock on. Let me give that a whirl. And thanks for the Brutus tip.
And Shem should only alternate between Blade and Call
If tasi is needed, call is prioritised on her, but otherwise, Shem is the most valuable hero for it
Hmmmm... that kinda' worked better in the sense that I lasted for more than 20 seconds, but I still got insta-wiped by Niru and Vedan.
Play around with your relics, see how much that changes things, also the Wilder trio is extremely reliant on rng so always worth trying 10 times before changing anything unless there is a problem staring you right in the face with a better alternative in sight @wraith jungle
Rock on. Thanks for the tips in general. I think I might just be underleveled for now, as well. But I'm stuck in getting my Shem and Brutus higher because my Nem, Tasi, and Lyca (the others on the resonating crystal) are only 153. Once they reach 160, I can start moving Shem up.
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But i had 200 Shem and 160 heroes and got into chapter 20 with it @wraith jungle
So you might be surprised what a little patience and a lot of luck gives lol
@rugged marten LOL Very nice! I'm hoping that once I get that trio to 160, I'll be able to really start moving up. But that's 21 levels between them, which feels like a lot. I guess that's why they call it AFK, eh?
Yeah haha pretty much
Ah, sumnabitch!!! I was ROLLING on that last run. Arden, Shem, and Brutus were almost all full health and Arden randomly hit them with a second rooting. Then Vedan and Niru both did their thing a the same time and wiped them all. Argh!
Unlucky, looks promising though, you got this 💪
I think I'm most disappointed in Shem on this level. She is basically useless. She barely even gets an ult off, if I'm lucky. How can graveborn enemies melt her so quickly?
Graveborn are pretty much all out offence
Wait until lyou come across frontline Kaz and have to put Shem vs her 😂😂
True. But you would think that the faction thing would at least go in my favor somewhat.
That's infuriating
Any tips for my smurf?
@lapis sand it might sound strange, but use Ogi instead of Hogan, better faction bonus
But ofc not gonna be as tanky vs Maulers
@rugged marten I think I'm going to give up for the time being and focus on leveling. I tried ~20 times and switched things around as much as I can, but I just can't get over the Vedan hurdle. I have yet to kill him, or to seemingly do any damage at all. He just insta-wipes everyone no matter what their health is.
Ahh fair enough, you'll get it with a few levels for sure though @wraith jungle
@rugged marten I'm going to reset hogan hes an elite plus. Is that okay?
And who else do I put in the front
@lapis sand it'd be ideal if you crystal for Ogi instead
@lapis sand I use Tasi on my alt account, her teleport serves enough purpose to keep her alive in most cases
Hey, would love suggestion, this line-up pushed me greatly from chap10, seems like it wont do it here... also, should I keep lvling Brutus? or from now on split the xp between those wilders? ty 😃
is there anything i can do in this situation?
Which one of my Lightbearers should I ascend to legendary?
So Belinda, Fawkes, Raine or horse lady
I've got two Elite+ Hogan's that I can use to ascend btw
which 3 of nemora, lyca, tasi, and arden should i run for my backline?
Who do I switch from my team and who should i try to get
@sonic scroll id say belinda
Any ideas?
@wheat patio thanks man
@sonic scroll np, belinda was my first legendary and i havent regretted it
Ahhh that's good to hear 😃
@wheat patio can u help me as well man
@fallow mauve id say switch athalia for someone else bc we arent gonna get many athalias compared other units
youre gonna hit a max level that u need to ascend to get past and any other unit would be easier to ascend
hogan has been doing wonders for me personally
I’m in desperate need of help
I’ve been stuck here for ages now and I just can’t beat it, i don’t know what to do
I’m at a loss 
Anyone have advice for this? Khasos teams are my worst matchup in Campaign/ tower.
anyone got tips? my topside just gets obliterated immediately
@iron dome try swapping the front two, put the arden in the middle and nemora on top with tasi at bottom
@naive kelp if Tasi can survive the silvina until she teleports, try
Belinda
Ulmus
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
And repeat until tasi gets her ult off with everyone surviving. Also, Arden helps a lot once you get him to root 2 people ( as seen in my picture, only problem is Khasos nuking In a line)
@fresh storm That was my first lineup, without the backline CC even Lucius wasn't surviving the Saveas. And the backline is getting annihilated by khasos immediately
Do you have any advice getting past this stage?
Can I get some help here?
Super stuck. Need help.
@iron dome i think its just a waiting game then, maybe until you level up a saveas/brutus
@fresh storm I could make a legendary Saveas right now if I use another E+ Saveas to make it
sav will carry until at least CH13
Been stuck on this. Any help? Pm me
@fresh storm Don't even know how to build a team around him. Been using Shem+ Tasi since the start
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Should i fodder my estrilda to lucius? I'm on 13-4 and seems like i can't pass it without a M heroes, it's been 2 weeks, so frustating
@wintry bough
Baden
Shemira
Ferael
Hogan
Belinda
got it, I'll give it a try. Any advice on who I should be focusing on?
any help? stuck at 6-36 what should i level/use
@delicate trout I’d say yes because u don’t need estrilda anyways (used mine for Lucius as well) but u are getting to the point where tanks other thank Brutus are bad cause they are under leveled and won’t survive without immunity so I don’t thin mythic Lucius will get u far.
No hope Here? Third time posting lol
@wintry bough I would recommend shemira that’s what I always do cause she’s shemira

@edgy seal ? Are u losing to 1 exizh?
@viscid hazel but as u see, if i had L+ brutus, i will fodder my L+ saveas to him asap, so is it better to get a M belinda for me? Or still lucius?
@viscid hazel lmao Yea the battle lasts like 40 sec with him having half HP left
Overestimated him lol, its hard mode in labyrinth
@delicate trout I use standard line up Brutus shemira wilders and I’m not a fan of Belinda. Yet I’m still using Lucius for peaks of time. Furthermore don’t fodder ur saveas into Brutus u will need maulers for the kings tower u will unlock faction towers soon
@viscid hazel thanks for advice, almost got it on first try. Saveas just barely got me :/
@edgy seal LOL try Tasi nemora Arden to cc him
@wintry bough replay few times If it doesn’t work u can try Arden for Belinda shemira has 1v5 potential with cc and buffs
@viscid hazel this is so sad dude, why they make this game soo harrdd 
But that's the fun part lul
Haha 
@viscid hazel who in front?
Seems like i need to make my shem M 1st before i fodder my estrilda, thanks dude @viscid hazel