#lineup-help
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I have not lost anyone yet
@obtuse basalt i would try making using 3 wilders in ur party so u get a faction buff
vedan and esti as tanks ... not sure if that will work depends on what ur fighting
Hello, so i'm about to make my first purchase on labyrinth for this account. Right now I'm running Brutus and Golus for frontline while my backline is Shemira Niru Saveas.
My question is should i go ahead and buy Nemora so i can run Arden Nemora to replace Shemira Niru or should i buy Shemira for the long run?
my personal preference is shemira mainly cause theres several fights where nemora is useless
shemira becomes a monster around legendary+ rank and u really only need 4 dupes for that
3 dupes + the 1 copy u have
I see, I can also get 2 more copies from regular campaign right?
Please help ))
@paper estuary u get one from chapter 15.. not sure if there another one from something else
@solemn cloud have u tried swapin the locations of tasi and bellinda
u want ur dmg to kill the guy on the top right i think hes root ability is annoying
So I tried using another wilder and it went well but the NPC Niru is legit OP in this one. Cause my team had 4 people standing against just him and he wouldn’t die, his wounds healed faster than I could make them
In other words... what the actual fuck?
@obtuse basalt yeah i remember that level.
Hey all, could I get some help on a good team build/character to focus on
@obtuse basalt What level and your lineup?
It may be worth focusing Niru down first.
There’s not really a focus fire option here...
Any advice?
@marsh rain don't know if you still need help but, i passed that stage with a significant amount of hero levels below yours by placing nemora in the back middle, and forcing her to charm farael, he was the main damage dealer and was constantly wiping my team, by charming him, he would cast his debuff on his own team, canceling some of their skills, the rest i left up to tasi and shem to RNG it out
@tough trail what other heroes did you use ?
This is the lineup i used to clear it, just replace arden with nemora
and keep reseting whenever nemora doesn't charm farael
will give it a try thanks 😃
Recommendations?
@tough trail Thanks worked very well 😃
np
which one should i ascend? or wait to get a lucius?
Any help 11-28?
Halp Idk what to do
Kind of stuck,just looking to experiment - any ideas to best this? Lucious gets killed right off the bat
Any advice welcome
#lineup-help 7-36
Any advice for this? Been hard stuck here for a while now
Have tried a ton of different lineups and am completely lost
Can someone help me with a lineup to beat 15-40? All I’ve tried so far got totally annihilated
Hey I was wondering whether anyone could help. I'm stuck on 12-40 and have tried the first 20 heroes with no luck :(.
Anyone have thoughts?
Asked 4 times today, let's see if I get any advice. Lol.
Stuck at 11-20. Any ideas on how to proceed?
Someone pleasseee help idk what to do for a lineup
@granite wigeon I'm far from an expert but I'd try
Tasi/nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
@fallen token not sure that's gonna work out lol
Any suggestions for me, oh mighty PabloJensen?
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9-12
I think this time around i rly hit a wall that i won't be able to beat and just have to wait for experience to level up, since im lacking that after only 9 days playing. Either way, if somebody still sees a potential comp that could beat it, i would appreciate it. I have some crystal slots free aswell
@lapis roost try this. Might take a couple of tries but it’s a comp I’d def use in that. Front: Brutus (top) Lucius (bottom) Back: Saveas (top) Arden (mid) Tasi (bottom)
Recommendations?
alright will try it a few times. thanks 😃
@serene sky i think you comp will work, but gotta wait for xp, both frontlines die instantly :D. Mostly brutus tho
Any tips are appreciated
Would it be better to get an elite+ golus or an elite saveas
saveas
Thanks
Stuck on 11-36 any help would be appreciated
Need help inb4 i delete this aids game
@peak stratus drop Shem and Fawkes, use Khasos and Belinda, Saveas bottom
👏
@urban trellis try Khasos instead of Nemora (see how that goes), Brutus vs enemy Saveas to delay his damage as much as possible
Go luke go !
@hasty night Thoran is a late game tank, he needs levels to be effective so I'd use Hogan instead of him, also, overlevel your carry in comparison to the rest of your team
is ira the carry
Ira is
Yes, the one that does the most damage
But situationally good
What faction should i opt for from the 100 summons?
Mauler for Brutus is a good choice
Wilder have a lot of super useful units in general so a very safe faction to pick
GB has some super good heroes, but are mostly late game heroes
LB I'd say are the lowest priority due to how the game tends to throw them at everyone anyways @wild skiff
Got aiiron is that guy any good?
@wild skiff yes but you have to use him tactfully, since he pulls enemy’s toward you, this can be very useful, it’s can also be dangerous if misplaces.
Ty god luke, ty you
@burnt ravine swap Tasi for Arden, put Arden up top and Nemora bottom or middle to charm Saveas or Vurk from his poison
Still not able to pass 9-20 any advise?
am i just underleveled for 4-32? nemora outheals like crazy
Can someone help me w my line up pls what should I be playing
your top 5 characters
@short pulsar lucius Brutus front line with Belinda tasi saveas looks good to me
@rough sun I don't think you're that underlevelled, just that you are at a faction disadvantage as you have 3 graveborn vs npc Wilders.
not sure why people would go for a lineup without atleast 3 man synergy unless its for a certain fight
@rough sun you may also need a ranged in the back line positioned in front of nemora that'll pick her off
Which 2 units would work better with Lucius, Fawkes and Belinda: Estrilda, Brutus, Ferael or Saveas?
I'm currently using Estrilda and Ferael but my new Brutus seems pretty good
@pale kettle I would say Saveas and Brutus.
@brave grove
Have you tried
Lyca
Saveas
Arden
Shemira
Tasi / Nemora
@robust snow should I. Use shemira instead of Belinda?
Any ideas how can I improve my lineup?
My current:
Nara
Eetrilda
Belinda
Lucius
Saveas
@rugged marten thanks
Shemira is really strong, @short pulsar , so maybe?
@robust snow can u check my line up to see and I don’t think shemira has a union buff right and she’s still that strong?
Is it worth it to get Belinda to legendary?
@indigo jolt didn't work :(
@robust snow @indigo jolt do you have any recommendations for me based on heroes i have?
@rough sun you stuck somewhere?
yes, see above stuck in 4-32
Change Hogan with baden
Trying to come up with a strong general purpose 5 wilder team for taking on GB teams (that can also be used for Secrets of the Forest). Any recommendations for team setup? I have 3 crystal slots open currently, but can change troops around if need be.
Not sure Ogi is worth using. Thinking of using Kaz instead as a dodge tank
@@rough sun Try this
Silvina
Grezhul
Mirael
Thoran
Baden
just to make sure i understand - reset hogan, level baden with the reset resources & try this formation
Yes
Stuck at 12-8 and Should i make nemora mythic?
@rough sun Rather than resetting, ascend mirael with the other rare+. Then use returned resources.
@brave grove Was it any closer?
@rough sun so ascend mirael using hogan and Angelo instead of resetting. That way you get all the resources from hogan back for free, and can then upgrade Baden
ohhh snap thanks everyone
I’m stuck here at 8-36, any suggestions?
@gloomy haven try Belinda instead of ira
I feel like his problem is more a lack of a strong frontline or a DPS carry that can kill fast enough to make up for not having one
What's a good general purpose 5x wilder formation? I'm missing Ulmus and Eironn.
@terse blaze u got Brutus? He works well with wilders
so a 4 wilder + 1 brutus?
@maiden quest the Angelo was the first guy I got when I started playing and all that seemed to be dropping for me from cards, think he was a elite+ when I got him.
I have Saveas Elite and Arden just at Rare. My drops/pulls of cards have been terrible...
@gloomy haven yeah, sounds rough; you might try a 4-Mauler formation with what you have: Khasos and Warek up front, and Safiya, Saveas, and Nemora/Tasi (maybe Athalia as a 5th)
or maybe ditch Warek and put Saveas up front with Khasos and use both Athalia and a healer or Nemora and Tasi at the same time
should i fodder my saveas to get brutus mythic? i primarily use shemira for damage now )lv180
Thank you for the info! I’ll give it all a go and see what works out!
hey. should i ascend one of those 3 or just wait for another lucius?
@sage siren Ascend Belinda (use the two morvus). Can someone please help me? I've tried so many things... and I just cant beat this
Who should I buy?
@crisp helm wait for another Estrilda or maybe if you get Shemira. Dont buy anything yet. For weekly quest you can just buy the 60 rare soulstones for 2.4k. Save for Estrilda/Shemira. @ebon tree You need to post a picture from the enemy line up as well so we can help
Thoughts on ascension?
I’ve been stuck on 13-4 for a while now, any suggestions on what I can do to hopefully progress?
Was thinking a mono graveborn team since I recently got Shemira and Baden but I’m not sure, also been stuck on 8-16 for a little while now. Any ideas?
Stuck on 5-20 :/ Any lineup/ascension/leveling advice?
Should I make Thoran, Grezhul, Vedan or Silv legendary first?
@willow moon use Brutus to tank Brutus and Saveas, you need to delay them as long as possible, Isabella isn't a good hero early game, pick up Numisu in place of her, he will buff Saveas and grant an extra tier for your team faction bonus
@tender wraith none, keep food for when you upgrade Shemira, Grez and Thoran are late game tanks, they need levels to shine
I need help with 11-38
I know that ogi shouldn’t be there- I made a mistake a while ago
@ancient pulsar Wilder and Mauler have the best early game heroes, GB have pretty much exclusively late game heroes (161+), for now though, I'd recommend Sav, Khasos, Belinda, Lucius and Estrilda as a basic team
Any ideas on this one ???
@dusk plinth Swap out Ogi for Brutus, Tasi for Saveas, if that doesn't work, use Lyca instead
@solemn cloud I'd just say levels honestly, there's not much you can really change in and out with your current roster
@rugged martenoh ok
I don’t have equipment for more than one of that type
@dusk plinth equipment doesn't make a huge difference, it helps for sure, join a guild and hunt Wrizz, that'll give a bit of equipment
How to win this?
Yeah
@frigid dagger why have you only got GB? I can see its selected on all? Wtf lol
@rugged martenwhat about this one ??
I'd advise against using mono-faction teams, mixing factions slightly are much easier to upgrade and you get the best of a few factions that way @frigid dagger
@solemn cloud that'll definitely take levels to beat, double Brutus you need a frontline that can survive his immune phase so your Sav can kill them
Yeah I know, but it is faction tower
@frigid dagger oooh gotcha
@frigid dagger I don't think you can honestly, Tasi will banish you Shem and then the rest of your team will get stomped by the enemy CC and faction advantage, I'd say give it a bunch of tries for the sake of RNG, but not saying you're quite strong enough just yet for it
You fully equipped them 5 with you absolute best stuff? Relics and gear? That might help a little
Any ideas??
Yeah using the best on them but happens exactly what u said
@rugged marten Wow that was an overwhelming victory. What a difference it made, thank you!
@willow moon nice, positioning makes a huge difference
@deep pelican I don't think I'm even that far yet 😂😂 but I'd say Shem bottom would be ideal, keep her away from Serius's AoE
Level 80s, Saveas or Baden
@rugged marten I literally tried that lineup of heroes, too. Just swapping Brutus and Lucius made a 0-4 loss flip to 4-0
Okay thank you!
Saveas still hits hard for guild boss etc. So has uses still
Current team in circles. Any changes I should make to try and pass campaign levels (stuck on 6-36)?
See how Khasos does, he synergises very well with Saveas @bleak olive
Been spamming retry on 13-4 hoping for some good rng but no luck. Using other hero lineups seem to do worse than my lightbearer team even though they have the factional disadvantage. Any suggestions on lineups I could try?
@vagrant dune Brutus, Sav, Numisu, Lyca and Lucius, see how that works for you
Sav
Lucius
Lyca
Brutus
Numisu
Numisu will die to Silvina but she'll get stuck on Brutus when he immunes, hopefully giving your Sav enough time to kill half the enemy team
Help me
@slate zodiac it’s tough to say with no context. Belinda probably
@tranquil mirage sure, what is your lineup?
@slate zodiac I'd say take that Saveas iut of your crystal and overlevel him
Khasos or Vurk ? Witch one better ?
I don't have the hero exp to rn
Reset athalia
Estrilda, Athalia and Nemora all have level cap of 100, reset them and put Elite+ and higher heroes in the pentagram instead (automatically put in once they are levelled up)
Ahhh okay
@proud pelican depends on what your team needs
@rugged marten
@rugged marten They had promise at the start but they all ended up dying too fast, think they might need to be a higher tier/level
Khasos, you can get him up easier, also same as I just said to Dex, use highest level ascended heroes in your pentagram, a 160 Saveas with 121 heroes will do better than a 141 Saveas and 140 heroes
@vagrant dune sometimes that's all you can do, just afk to level up
I’ll give it some more time then, thanks for the help anyways!
@rugged marten thanks
With your heroes, you should definitely be able to hit chapter 14
@proud pelican
I know because I was using pretty much exactly the same before I switched to Shemira and Wilder trio with Brutus
@rugged marten WhAts the best lineup for me ?
Before I go any farther, I have one spot open on the crystal now. So I keep leveling up E+ heroes and my L Mirael?
Overlevel Sav but keep Brutus at 141, the others level up after
Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, Lyca and Belinda/Lucius
@proud pelican
I’m stuck here
Khasos 141 is great too also but you can't get him without the pentagram being 141, he grants Maulers an additional 6% life leech @proud pelican
I can't reset Nemora until I get 20 crystals
I'd say try;
Saveas
Khasos
Lyca
Brutus
Numisu
Numisu will be bait for Silvina so she'll get stuck on Brutus, and your Sav needs to kill some heroes before your Brutus falls, Ankhira poison and web will be an issue though @proud pelican
@slate zodiac that's fine, you'll get 20 diamonds eventually, no rush 👍 just pointing you in the right direction
Help me
So keep going with leveling E+ and L Mirael? Or should I just over level Mirael since she has a good AOE
@tranquil mirage swap Thane for Saveas, also reset Thane and Estrilda, get Saveas in the pentagram to 160 with Estrilda's exp and get Estrilda up to 140
@slate zodiac Saveas should be your highest level, he can carry harder than Mirael
Ok
Having a wild problem here
@tranquil mirage 141 is huge for Brutus and great for Khasos so once you have a 141 crystal, I'd recommend having Sav, Brutus and Khasos as the main part of your team as well
I passed without resetting anything, lucky
Ahh okay, fair enough, nice @tranquil mirage
Thanks btw
@south herald keep Sav away from Ogi, unless you can interrupt his stuns with youd Saveas, he will stun him, which is a big issue, Lyca would definitely be worth trying, Fawkes isn't the best choice for that team, Estrilda would be another good choice too, you can keep your faction bonus for your team that way too
mythic Isabella before mythic Shem feels bad man
Yeah, should have saved the fodder for Shem tbh
To be fair i got my shems after my isabella got mythic (all of them)
You have no tanks, which isn't ideal at all 😅 @slate zodiac
Yeahhhhh. I just really want Brutus and Lucius. Would make everything easier
You have 4 mages and an agility hero, none of which can frontline too well, Saveas can act as a, psuedo-tank but not ideal
Yeah I'm really shafted with my pulls
Unfortunately we're all at the mercy of RNG
Help with this stage please!
@fading cipher use Wilder trio with Shem and Brutus, you do need to get a Nem ASAP tho
Basically I'll afk for a bit because I'm about to level up then I'll get the diamonds to reset Nemora and take Saveas to 100+
👍
Stuck on 15-8 lineup help, shemira cant out damage heals.
Too big a gap?
@exotic falcon use a third Mauler instead of Fawkes
@narrow scarab what's the enemy line up?
Nvm lol @rugged marten beat it with this but ty!
@narrow scarab haha fair enough
New player! Just pulled Brutus and Baden. Thinking they’d work well with Shemira and Saveas plus one other graveborn but unsure how focused I should be on faction bonuses early stage. Any input on lineup appreciated!
Hey guys, ive been wondering on who I should focus on and what the best team comp would be. Any help?
Stuck on 11-24, nothing I try seems to be working. Just got Arden to L+ and will break him to 141 asap
Any suggestions for who I should use on 11-33?
What is this ffs
What would you suggest for 9-24
This is good ? What’s your guys suggestion?
Any ideas?
@proud pelican Lucius shield is very useful in guild boss
I can win but my autistic skreg walks off and leaves shemira to ult and athalia swaps to estrilda
What should my gameplan be for this? 15-40 and I don’t think I know what to do for it. I got stuck on the lesser version of this stage for a while and this one is harder.
Hi what should I do with my heroes?
161 shem :)
For my heroes is it worth making Ira go to Lv141? Or should I save my esscence for when I eventually make Belinda or Lucius to L+?
Still dying by a lot
@upper path Swap Khasos for Kaz.
She has the lowest defense rating but will be able to dodge Silvina's blink attack, and maybe even prevent her shield by counterattacking, causing her to flinch.
Nope. Still dying. Shem just doesn't stay alive enough to get anything out of her ultimate. When she starts everyone is already dead.
Ant advice for 9-24
It might be necessary for you to get Saveas to 141 (or even 160) as it's an optional decision to do while you're still at the middle game.
(he ends up really weak at the late game, so he's being used up as fodder..)
Might as well make the most of him when he's still viable!
@upper path
Any advice? I don't die quick and I get close to winning
Thoughts on what to raise? New to the game and dont understand all the parts of the game tbh
12 36 help?
This is a nightmare oml
@upper path Shem and another guy tank, Wilders Back.
@upper path I cleared these range of stages with 4 Wilders (pick 3), Shem and either Grezhul, lucius. My Wilders other than Arden is purple and Brutus L not helping much.
Any advice welcome?
I feel like im going wayy too slow on chapter 13 would love some input on what A strong comp i could do would be to help me push through. PS key heros iv got that can go to mythic if i wanted to are belinda, estrilda, and shemira (i can prolly get shemira to ascended in a week or two)
Currently on 13-12 btw
Once I got shemira to 180, she just blew chap 13
Half way in 14 now, might need to get her to 181++
Any quick fixes to what i currently got rn tho? @slender crest
Team comp wise anyway
qny advice? i feel that this is my best bet but...
Hi I'm stuck.
smh u were just here
What 5 heroes should I be using to go through campaign
tips for beating this? or am iunderleveled
@patent cliff not really qualified here, but over level the hell out of shemira(as in like 20 above the others), then brutus. Have hogan and brutus in front with shemira, and 2 DPS in back
Replace a back line DPS with a cc or support like Arden Lyca Task or Nemora when u get one. Arden isnt a natural purple so u can get one a bit easier
Who should I use as my 5?
@rigid hamlet try
Tasi
Hogan
Lyca
Seveas
Arden
@rigid hamlet Hello there!
The optimal decision for your main 5 should be the highest Ascension tier heroes you currently have.
You're on a good route! Don't forget to take advantage of the Crystal and open new slots for it!
Thanks both. @mint burrow @wise merlin good to see you again Nicky. Hope you're well?
Ah I'm doing fantastic thank you for asking 😊 
How about you?
Yeah not bad thank you though Sumday is almost over haha
Ahh, mine's only started 😂
any tips ?
Any help with 11-28
Stuck at 15-40, any tips? Or do I just need more levels?
Swap Brutus and Shem, best boots on Nem so she can charm Ferael before he uses his spooky Bois @tranquil garden
Arden and Lyca swap too
help me pls 😦
What would you suggest for 9-24
Hi guys Saveas is like a god ! Just one shooting my tank.. what to do now ?
@pale kettle defenitely get belinda up over mirael, then instead of silvina in the frontline use skregg. So try
Ira
Skreg
Lyca
Brutus
Belinda
@placid willow I would say use brutus over ulmus in the top slot.
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Thoran
Shem
Keeping shem away from saveas, and hoping nemora charms the saveas and arden roots the ira and ogi/Saveas
hey cani get help with this ?
@ebon ridge show your heroes too for better help
I see that discord lacks on helpers :d
No one pays helpers to help. It is free will...
@ebon ridge what stage it is?
11-40 its so hard lol
@dark cedar they're all sleeping lol
@ebon ridge try putting tasi where saveas is and kill mirael first, so maybe
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Tasi
Nemora
Brutus is useless before 141
@open mural
That wont do
better 4s of invuln to try to get golus shut down, and there aren't a lot of better options
tasi gets popped and saveas targets the golus
@open mural it's better but i think i need to ascend some of my hereos.. thank you for the help !!
if you're getting close enough then maybe some rng will help you win. @placid willow
might be underleveled ?
@ebon ridge listen here
Arden
Tasi
Silvina
saveas
Nemora
If you had lyca or esteilda this would be easy
i have esteilda elite +
11-40 is a hella wall, maybe just good rng with saveas crits, I did this with saveas 160, then brutus estrilda and nemora belinda i believe, buffing saveas until golus finally died
the problem is silvina doesnt attack mireal
yeah cause ankhira is a mage technically
@ebon ridge try
Arden
Tasi
Nemor
Estrilda
Saveas
RnG is huge roll try a few times
If it doesnt work afk and try again
ok ty
@open mural not that much close unfortunatly..
Greetings, I recently got Saveas to 160 and am at 12-37. How long should I use him before he falls off?
Brutus is a God at 80 to 90
Lol i passed it ! Thank you again
Yo i literally don’t know what to do rn I’m currently using 4 light bearers and the thoran
@placid willow i was just saying how you could reroll for better rng lol but gzz
Any possibilities or just afk that
@livid stratus easy
Saveas
Hogan
Mirael
Skreg
Belinda
Thanks m8, u the best
@open mural thank you mate 😄 Did i keep my team like that for the otger lvl ?
@lilac lynx i've heard up to chapter 15, but i stopped at 12-38 when i got M shemira
@placid willow yeah haha, basically just keep rolling for saveas crits and pray for the best
Thank you
@hasty night show heroes too?
All the relevant ones r there. No other elites. I have the other blues too
@dark cedar
It is hard to make good combi with your squad...
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Estrilda
Fawkes...
Try it
@full arch i would say to use shemira over numisu for your damage with brutus. I used
Tasi
Lyca
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
for that one
@hasty night swap lucius and hogan position
If it aint work
Afk anf lvl up
@dark cedar
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Thoran
Tasi
This is my opinion
11-28 hardstuck
With this setup I can sometimes get brutus on his own, but never kill him
Would love to hear some advice
Dont use estrailda until post lv q
160
@pale kettle I'd say put arden to 141 over hogan and then put him middle.
Lyca
Hogan
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
or you could just put another mauler like golus there for the 3-0 faction bonus
ah okay, my other purples are a skreg, and a khasos. Should i replace her with one of them then?
@violet pecan i started destroying floors on the kings tower thanks
Doesnt work either
Who should I ascend?
try rolling for rng?
None of them dies
Current heroes
With rng khasos dies leaving 4 others at 95%health
This stage must be one of the hardest in the game
can i see your lineup right now?
Same lineup you posted
@pale kettle avoid focusing top... finish bottom 3 than prpceed for rest
@pale kettle
Arden
Tasi
Lyca
Hogan
Saveas
@silk dew ascend none. Waith to see who can get to L+ of ascended herory
I’m confused. So I am waiting for what exactly?
@violet pecan and go for #question chat room next time when you ask this
If you get another e+ belinda than go for ascending her
None of them die with your suggested setup
Stuck on 8-20 any suggestions?
@pale kettle i see now all of your other heroes are low lvl. With what you have you cant beat it unless you have full mythic gear on saveas and hard CC to help him out.
Time to Afk for week or 2
Should I submit 2x golus to get elite saveas? On chapter 6-25
If you have another tank to replace Golus, sure
@dark pecan always show your opponent line-up pls
Any idea any help pls
@ivory fable show all your heroes for bette rhelp
@ivory fable ira counters shemir
If you have athalia to pin her down it cpuld be better
@lapis sand Dear Hero,
You're too early into the game to decide such decisions.
Generally, it's recommended for you to put the current highest tier heroes available in your main 5 heroes.
You're on a good path currently. ^^

@lapis sand i would replace thor with hogan
Currently stuck on 5-20 should I get my vurk to 61? Then arden?
Hey guys I’m currently stuck on 9-20... any ideas on what I should do? I typically run Brutus, shemira, saveas, Arden, And Golus
@lapis sand i think that is for #classic-questions s ection not for lineup
Any suggestions?
Wait so replace thhoran with hogan?
@lapis sand As Vurk is your damage dealer for now, it'd be recommended for you to level him up as first priority.
His damage output isn't the best but it's your current best, some resources will help him no doubt!
@last rain if you had warek this would be GG
@wise merlin I thought my lyca would be my damage
I have him tho, elite....
Also I have an thoran should I replace him with elite Hogan?
@lapis sand Lyca's damage is nice and all at early game, but the more you play it she becomes a support, she's not the greatest damage output there, Vurk would deal more damage than her if geared properly and invested resources in.
@hollow sedge Hello there! ^^
May you share your formation vs the enemy's as well?
Thank you I'm advance!
Any help 😭😭 thank you!!
@wise merlin Also I have an thoran should I replace him with elite Hogan?
@lapis sand hogan is better early game than thoran
Lyca is dmg dealer after 161
@lapis sand I think you should!
Mostly due to the fact it's easier to receive duplicates of him than Thoran, and increase his level cap, managing your Crystal right for the mean time. ^^
@Wishi Wushi#6969
@wise merlin any luck 😭
Did I set this up right?
Switch hogan and tasi poz
Should I ascend Nara or Shemira?
@hollow sedge From my own experience, Saveas is Way better than Shemira all the way up to 160. She only now finally that she is 181 and mythic started to overtake him. So I would suggest you get your Saveas up to Leg+ asap and throw best stuff on him and Brutus. Those are your 2 hard carries til 160 at least. For the other 3 slots - you have a lot of good choices to play around with. For example, Lyca Arden and Athelia would made a nice dps team. I dont see you having a nemora or Lucious? Be sure to at least grab your first Nemora from lab if you haven't gotten either yet. Save all the rest of your lab coins for shemira at late game. For now you would have a great team with Brutus, Saveas, Nemora, Arden, Lyca. You can freely switch in Athelia for any Wilder and try out combos when you get stuck on something =)
Oh, and dont worry about using resources on Leg+ the saveas. You can feed him to your brutus when you get your guys to 180+ and on.
Ty for the advice!!!
=D
@hollow sedge Place Kaz up against Vedan
Put Athalia instead of Shemira.
Level up Arden to 121 if able to.
Should be enough! Kaz's dodges should provide her enough energy to backlash with her ultimate move, she'll also be able to distract enemy Ira and Vedan while Athalia peels the enemy Nemora off.
If that doesn't work, swap Athalia's position with Saveas. Should work! ^^
You’re amazing @wise merlin tysm!!
Any tips here:?
I’ll try all this out tomorrow
@wise merlin
This team worked like magic through chapter 12 
Any suggestion
?
I dont know how i put fawkes in.... it should be lucius XD
Lost 5 times in a row. Can anyone help?
@gleaming python show rest of your heroes
They’re all shit. These are my best ones.
More heroes means more options
@violet pecan Try this formation;
Arden
Brutus
Tasi / Lyca
Lucius
Saveas
I'm not sure about if you need further Ascending or not, but it might work with some RNG!
@violet pecan Put your best boots onto Arden, so he will root Silvina before she uses her shield!
@wise merlin ouh wow. I will try
@gleaming python you're puting damage in one side with brutus, try put Belinda and Hogan in the positions 3 and 5
@gleaming python show all heroes not just part
The rest are just lvl 1
@gleaming python What about your main 5?
All I see is the crystalized ones.
He had them in the first ss
help? floor 160
Try putting Shemira and Brutus in instead of Raine and that king guy
frontrow brutus ,right?
Yes
😰😰😰😰HALP
Brutus against Brutus
Any advice? I can mythic Khasos with my L+ Saveas.
Stuck again 😢 i guess i will need to wait now 😢
Stuck again
Anything i can do ? Or just wait and lvl
@violet pecan That's alot of RNG 😳
@violet pecan same shit unfortunatly but i keep trying my beeeeeest
@gleaming python ayye thanks ! haha
@wise merlin hey i got it from 5th try XD
Anything i can do ? Or just wait and lvl
Any ideas?
@grizzled lodge Level up a little, you're at a faction disadvantage.
Not to mention fighting an Estrilda L tier with level 101 ability buff... Hard match
Aim for level 95 and try again, same formation. ^^
Any ideas or just wait and lvl ??
@wise merlin ok thx
@solemn cloud your roster looks ok, play around with different heroes and formation. Raine + Belinda/Shemira is a good combo. Shemira before like chap 8 I think is still quite good. Meanwhile focus on pumping Savaes.
Help this brother out
Any ideas or just wait and lvl ?? Help!
Estrilda instead of hogan?
Estrilda is too squishy at that level
And use arden instead of athalia. You need cc.
@restive tangle use arden for athalia or even ezizh or make athalia attack arden not angelo, any of those are better
I keep getting destroyed for days. 😖
Do lucius saveas and 3 wilders backup
New player would love some advice on the best team out of my pool
@vale kraken i tried that over 100 times. Lyca-arden-nemora or tasi-arden-nemora
Tasi arden lyca
Let me try but they die instantly unless nem charms khasos
Also, get that arden to 141 for best results
First priority?
Hey @vale kraken could you take a look at my dudes further up and suggest the best team
@vague inlet it looks fine to me. Once ur heroes are level 81 tho, use arden
Will do man thanks
Hey, any advice on the 40 floor on Wilders? The 2 lucius there make kinda impossible to beat it
9-20 comp lvl 115 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OddN1DYXi_Y tell me if u thinks i'ts usefull to make vidéo for évery boss ? ^^
Help plz
Need help building a lineup, please
Me tooooo, if anyone actually helps xD
ye...
Im stuck on 6-8 amd i dont really care about arena :D
@half terrace
Hogan, estrilda, belinda, lyca nemora
Need help building a lineup, please stuck 7-36
ok
@delicate pelican estildaa hogan nemora tasi belinda
@delicate pelican Dear Adventurer,
Please share your formation vs the enemy's as showcased before engaging.
Thank you in advance! 
@restive tangle athalia in front of belinda hogan, estrilda arden nemora
Been using this up until this point, just got 3 new heroes so I thought I'd ask. Ill try what you said @violet pecan , thanks!!
Been stuck on this for probably 2 days. Need suggestions.
@delicate pelican After taking a quick glance at your team, your Brutus is highly over levelled and you have a decent lineup going on.
Try this;
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan
Nemora / Tasi
I would recommend to reset Tasi and later on put her in the Crystal, as you're only supposed to invest resources onto 5 heroes, split the resources between Belinda and Brutus.
@violet pecan like this?
which 5 would you suggest i put my resources in? 
also i got past the stage by replacing Saveas with Ferael, thanks :D
@fleet kernel Hello friend. ^^
I would suggest to swap positions of Saveas and Hogan, and instead of Hogan, put Lyca, as the haste she offers will make sure Saveas will peel Golus off faster, and retain more sustain and energy.
Not to mention, her defense rating reduction is really useful!
New formation should look like this;
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Hogan / Lyca
Lyca / Shemira
Lyca Frontline sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, depending on if your team just needed the haste or another Frontline tank to handle them.
Ah okay. I was hesitant using lyca since she's weak to the maulers but I will try this. Thanks Nicky.
It's a minor risk that works sometimes! (Not Everytime though 😅 )
Best of luck! 
how about me @wise merlin ?
@half terrace I thought that you've been helped by someone else 😅
Forgive me. 🙏
How may I help? 😋
Whats good my fam for a line up duh
@wise merlin Front line Lyca got shitted on so I tried the back line and it worked first time. Thanks again!
@fleet kernel Welcome!! Glad to hear it helped! I wish you best of luck further on 
what should i use
@half terrace I'll take a quick look and come back to you as soon as possible! ^^
@half terrace Okay, so;
It is a little urgent for you to get level 101 in a case like this, specifically because you're using mostly Lightbearers, and the enemy Isabella and Silvina will just plow through them all.
You could try with enough RNG but as for now it might not be possible to put up a fight, especially with an Assassin that will immediately make the fight a 4v5.
Suggestion for clear this stage?
@pale kettle Swap Brutus for Lucius
Swap Shemira for Brutus
Swap Ezizh for Shemira.
Swap Fawkes for Athalia.
Should work!
I’m stuck on 11-40. Any suggestions?
Stuck at 11-40. Any suggestions are welcome
@stoic aspen
Arden
Lucius
Fawkes
Estrilda
Saveas
@outer orchid i have luck with nemora arden lyca tasi saveas in chapter 12 and 13
Try it out and i am just over 300k
I don't know what to do now ! Have i to wait and level up my team to 140 ?
@placid willow go for arden 141
Shemira
Thoran
Nemora
Ulmus
Arden
And im stuck at 11-32
Dont have ulmus
@cursive sparrow
I wasnt refering to you
Send help pless ahhh
@violet pecan you’re a legend ❤️
thx for helping @violet pecan worked well 😄
@violet pecan so I level up shemira lvl 160 before Arden or should i go for him right now ? Thank you
idk what team to use. currently working on getting elite+ so i can ascend my elite past level 100.
tell me team would be best since im stuck 😔
@round quest try lyca nemora tasi athalia estrilda
@cursive sparrow send screenshot of your heroes
@native oasis arden lyca tasi hogan saveas
@cursive sparrow i cant find good combo for you
Try
Arden
Thoran
Nemira
Shemira
Athalia
Okay ty
Guys who do u think would look perfect in this team if u had to remove 1 thats already in
@short wagon remove brutus
He is useless before 141
But who would u put in instead of him
Saveas can hardcarry you for so long, I'd go for him
But hes not elite
@short wagon pls show us your heroes.
I cant magicly know who do you have
help please :')
@glad tusk screenshot vs what you are fighting and be more specific
Ok but i can choose 1 random hero for free so i wanted to know ur guys opinions
@short wagon go for wilders they are always needed
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Thoran
Baden
Like i just yesterday rickety chart lyca bcs someone told me to upgrade someone else
No no no... sorry @short wagon
You can not use belindaa and shemira in same squad for now it wont work later in PVE you have so many combos right now
I can or cant
@short wagon hogan mirael belinda lyca nemor
Shemira thoran baden hogan nemor
Ira kaz lyca nemora seirus
But some of them are lvl 1
I know. These are some combos.
1st and 2nd will work for you for now
Use crystal to bring other to max
Reset thor and lvl up lyca
Reset thane and lvl up hogan
Boy thoran is the reason i came this far
U sure serius isnt an better oprion than hogan
@short wagon i am telling you to reset bcs of elite + can go higher lvl than just elite
But i rly dont want hogan in my team
reset all elites and level up elite+ because then they can become over level 100
Need help building a lineup, please
@short wagon do note for this game, it's not that ascended tier or high tier heroes then it's good. It depends on situation. Just like a Rare Savaes is God until LVL 160. Rare heroes some are decent and easier to ascend. And Arden is even better than Sav as he is usable almost through the game.
Thx alot whoever told me to upgrade hogan my team died even faster
Nah im sick constantly changing n rickoty charting everything
It depends. We advise accordingly to your team and still have to try and error. If not, then don't ask for advise.
You can ask others too for 2nd opnion.
Thx for help but this game is a hard mess
Currently stuck at 12-32 could anyone help please?
On 11-24. Any ideas?
Help with line-up and which card i should focus on both acc
@short wagon welcome. But just a heads up, unlike other games.. this game why it's fun is we be changing, reset, using different setup. Not saying you need to complete change your team but might need to tweet a little and change positioning.
How can I beat this
Any advice for 9-38, i get wiped out pretty fast
use silvina?
Instead of raine?
Need help building a lineup, please
Got a bit of fodder wondering who to focus to try and ascend some
@restive tangle i cant see enemie line up
Estrilda arden Nemora athalia belinda
Belinda
Estrilda
Athalia
Nemora
Arden
@burnt knot go ti #quand try asking again
@short wagon just because you dont znderstnd the game it doesnt mean it is mess... if you cant win some stage afk and lvl up
Thats the point of the game
@violet pecan last time I asked about ascensions etc. there someone told me to come here 😂
@edgy seal belinda should lways bee behind estrilda for splash silence dmg
Nemora
Lucius
Saveas
Estrilda
Belinda
If it doesnt work retry
If still doesnt work
Afk amd lvlup
@dim wyvern against what?
@burnt knot save ascending for getting mythic hero
Sry posted late @violet pecan
Hey, any help for this stage?
@midnight crag if yoh put best boots on arden he can root silvana without being one shoted
@midnight crag ouh he is e+.....
Tasi nemora lyca arden lucius do wonder on that stage
@acoustic axle Maybe...
Tasi
Serius
Lyca
Brutus
Saveas
Also, focus on leveling saveas to 160
Need some advice for 11-40, usually run saveas, lyca, nemora, arden and estrilda
@violet pecan
@restive tangle i dont recommend using brutuy
He should be able to clear it, switch frontlane placings, and but athelia down so she flies into arden
Guys, I'm in 3rd lvl Lab and I can't even damage Wrizz. Do I miss something? Is always so hard to beat?
@sly viper yes it is hard
@orchid stirrup This isn't really for your team comp, but a general idea. Reset estrilda. Take belinda off the crystal and level her to 121 with estrilda's resources. Now your top-five level heroes are all L+, and you can focus on bringing them all up toward lvl 160
Yeah I know that, but seeing as I am not even close to 140 all I see no reason to do that right now
What is 11-40 against?
I have 10 Faction scrolls atm, is it worth saving them for another faction or should I try and get lucky with Brutus pulls on the Mauler day today?
This one @elder orchid
Maulers might be decent, aim for brutus and khasos using the wishlist. @burnt knot

Well you have no real frontline with your heroes obviously, but I'd say frontline estrilla, and maybe vedan or dual sword guy, granted that I personally consider him quite weak, then backline, saveas, arden and then try switching between nemora, vedan and lyca. @orchid stirrup But it really just comes down to your lack of strong front line heroes.
You can also try to use fawkes, even though he's only mythic, but he will remove khasos early game, leaving your saveas to kill atleast 1 of their dps heroes.
Reason for no frontline :(, shemira is only epic too, gonna try out the fawkes, not thought about him yet
My fawkes, even when he was only mythic and mythic + carried my trough a lot along with arden, since it's so much CC, leaving saveas to deal great damage.
This squad worked wonder till saveas came 1 shoting everyone
I'm still stuck on 11-36
Could someone help me maybe? :D
Well you are using 4 wilders into 3 dps maulers. @violet pecan, but you do have strong enough heroes to get past that.
@fair sky take out nemora and lyca, put saveas backline, put in shemira backline, and that mauler epic + tank as frotline, switch brutus to deal with estrilla, if other tank dies to fast to.
@violet pecan I mean just reset saveas, make shemira 161 and rush to 180, in place of lucius put brutus and shemira kicks nemora
Ye, I don't personally have Shemira, but that milf can solo carry so many levels from what I've seen in my guild.
aha shemira goes front ofc
@pale kettle will try later. Thanks for info... i am drovin rn... whats youe guild @pale kettle?
@pale kettle nice... strong guild
I am with Bitizen atm
@violet pecan yea I've seen. we have only 1 person on ch24 but on 20 or higher abour 30, we kinda have strong team overall and no super whales (I mean we have 2 ppl vip14 afaik). To not make it off top, you should give shemira duras grace too
Any tips here?
Any advice please?
Hey guys. Currently stack at 7-36 can some1 helpnas to what i need to change to progress further?
who should i ascend? already have a mythic estrilda
@pale kettle no one really, wait for fodder
Do i even have chance here in like 100k power vs 120k and can u suggest some lineup
20k difference isn't worth thinking about
Im at 9-28 and the difference is 100k but I'm pretty even with the enemies
Roadblocked at 8-36. Any ideas would be appreciated :)
@summer maple you might also wanna show your line-up vs enemies like above. Their positioning so that other can help u
@terse blaze I’m stuck here too 😦
I think this stage gets a lot of people
Laughs in 400k power difference*
@fierce kayak this is for now but i test many different atm
Stuck
@summer maple focus on Savaes. Either you reset the rest and push Sav to at least 20 levels higher then others or at least now keep pumping into Sav only. Always focus on the carry and the rest just keep it there. For example rest of 4 level 81. Sav level 101. You can try to use position 1 to 5 as follows for this stage:
- Hogan Brutus estilda Belinda Saveas
Or - Estilda Hogan
Nemora Belinda Savaes
Stack at 7- 36 cam some1 help
@violet pecan Thanks, still got wiped easily 😂
@fierce kayak im gonna reset and try now thanks
Current team I'm running, who should I use to upgrade Tasi? Is there a team I could produce from what I have in my box other than the team I'm running?
Sorry for the spam
@willow spruce I think you have a few issues here:
- Pack of tanks and you should focus on Shem rather than Grezh/ Isaalbelle. Actually Hellborn altho is only E but sometimes he still works at high level.. someone still using him as E in high levels PVE.
- your team levels all over the place. As stated above from me, for example carry 101, rest 81. Your Savaes should be your carry for now.
- CC is important, you should also include tasi in your squad. Keep trying and Just the right RNG with Wilders CC (sleep, root, charm) you will get past the stage.
You should start to get Shemira from.
Out of the heroes I have, would u guys say using the 5 heroes at the top is a good combination?
@lucid grove Dear Hero,
Do know that the heroes you'll be putting resources onto won't be the ones you'll be using mostly.
Rather, they will be the highest current ascension tier available on your hero roster, to manipulate and advance with the Resonating Crystal --> (Ping me for more details about it. ^^)
Dear Hero.. 😂
He is a hero 
hehe i am a hero!!
Lol.. 
Preventing future mistakes like these demand a heroic title @fierce kayak
also i dont really understand what you said :/
@wise merlin 👌
@lucid grove The Resonating Crystal..
Have you unlocked it yet?
@wise merlin no i havnt
@noble hearth #classic-questions .
It may be about lineup, but this chatroom is meant specifically for walls in chapters, not priorities, etcetera.
@lucid grove The Resonating Crystal is a unique Feature in this genre of games, it's logic goes like this;
The 5 highest heroes level-wise will be put onto a Pentagram.
The lowest of the 5 will be deciding the Crystal's transferring level. (For example, having 4 lvl 80 heroes, and 1 lvl 60 hero, meaning the transferred level will be 60, until levelled further.)
After then, you may unlock slots within the Crystal and manipulate the heroes you put there from level 1 to the 5th highest hero (don't invest in more than 5 heroes. 5 is enough)
What would be the best choice
@lucid grove You'll be able to know when a hero has his level transfered when it's blue colored, and you can't level the Crystalized hero manually, but only by levelling up your 5th highest hero.
@pale kettle #classic-questions
Just tag @wise merlin, he will help you with your worries even for your personal life
@fierce kayak 
ok, so am i right in saying that if you put your top 5 levelled heroes in the resonating crystal, then all of our heroes will be the same level as the lowest level from the resonating crystal
@lucid grove Ping me once you've unlocked it, send me a screenshot of it and I'll explain it to you again 
You're allowed to dm. ^^
Ok I will do 😛
@fierce kayak Wanna take my spot? I'm at army and it's pretty stressful 😅
@wise merlin I can't bud, I really not as knowledgeable as you. You just do your own things first

Stuck on 8-24. Any advice appreciated.
@novel adder Will take over you @wise merlin 
Hey i was stuck at 5-20 so i decided to use my crystals. Whats the best lime up?
@viscid hazel it's from #550491326479728650 find GloriouS
any advise Im stuck
@novel adder Nicky covered mostly.. but he said he in army so he can't help much any further.. he stress.. 😂
@proven pike could you ss the stage as well that would make it easier
@novel adder @wanton spoke and below not covered I think
Yeah I still need some help @fierce kayak
sorry i forgot
@novel adder
@wanton spoke you can flash your pics again and tag @novel adder, he is the master
Haha yes I need help from a master
@wanton spoke
You seem to be a bit underleveled. and with a faction disadvantage. You lack the damage.. try swapping luci and hogan position first, then swap lyca for nemora.
If that doesn't work, drop the wilder package and use maulers.. backline positioning saveas, khasos, belinda in that order.. but you definitely should need more levels here.
Probably get sav to 120 as soon as possible.
@sinful solstice
i think you'll have very few difficulties with this stage the moment you unlock the 5th 141. Thats crucial for arden and brutus.
Main problem if i recall is usually the morvus aoe.
Try
Bel
Luci
Estri/Khasos
Brut
Saveas
@novel adder just wanted to let you know your strategy you suggested worked. Truly a master haha thank you
Any tips for this 11-36?
@proven pike do u have extra reso crystal slots?
At the moment. u should ascend ur luci to E+ for immediate power with no drawbacks.
A bit too early to reset but you can consider resetting ulmus first for hogan.
Then try
Belinda
Luci
Isabella
Hogan
Saveas/ferael.
If you dont mind, reset isabella for saveas as well.. because for saveas best effect u need him overleveled.
If you don't do this power up lucius above the rest first.. if you do the reset power up saveas as much as u can.
With some time u should be good.
@novel adder yeah i really disliked isabella. I'm thinking about reseting her too. thanks 😄
she's late game hero.. not a priority early
Any tips are appreciated
Is there like an easy face roll team or do I need to pick and choose?
@wispy vine
Does arden root before khasos axe? If he does you can use him top side and rng to consecutively root khasos and brut.
It also might be worth to try swapping shem and brut position. Hogan is too disruptive for shem generally. And if arden roots can work hopefully that mitigates enough brut damage for shem to finish off. Put dura's call on shem. Also worth trying nemo in place of tasi.
@novel adder i ended up switching tasi and lyca. lyca does her buff then died but it allowed arden and tasi to live long enough to get the win.
damn 9-20 tempts me just give up...
@novel adder oops forgot to tag
Any tips ?
@novel adder TY!!! it worked
@wanton spoke you could try saveas,khasos, arden, tasi, lyca. Level your saveas as high as possible first
@novel adder stumped here now 👀
I just reset Vedan. Who do I level
@split gull
Hmm first off try not to ascend to mythic unnecessarily.. your goal should be to get 5 L+ characters first.. that is important to get your entire team level cap to 160.. you unnecessarily slow down ur progress.
Try
Shem
Golus
Ferael
Thoran
Saveas
If that doesnt work, try
Belinda
Golus
Vurk/khasos
Estrilda
Sav
@slim egret the game is much more complex then one team beats all.
Some simple combos is to build around saveas early-mid game.. pump all resource into him and build a decent support cast to get mauler formation bonus etc.
Midgame there is a famous team involving shem,brut, wilder trinity.. They are highly effective but still require a lot of positioning knowledge to work.. strategising and using a diverse cast of heroes is part of the most enjoyable aspects of the game.. i'd encourage you to embrace that.
@azure kite hang in there. Its a very common wall for a lot of ppl. When you do beat it you get a huge sense of accomplishment though
@novel adder right now it just feels like a money or get lucky free pulls wall
@azure kite They're editing the scaling of difficulty from chapters 6-16 to be smoother in tomorrow's update
Any advice, i’ve tried a bunch of formations and heroes..
@novel adder Yeah I thought so too. Discord shit the bed
Anyone done 12-32 and can help me
@novel adder All I saw as you saying that I had 6 leveled heroes so I reset Vedan
ohh my post was removed coz too long.. ill split it in 2
Ah alright
@slate zodiac why do u have 6 leveled characters? You seem to have a severe lack of tanks.. try not to sacrifice useful characters if ascensions are not necessary for powering up.. the more options the better.. i think u sacked the free E hogan and now u have almost 0 tanks haha. Hmm kinda difficult. Try this
Athalia
Grez
Saveas
Vedan/Thoran
Baden
If that doesnt work try
Belinda
Grez
Mirael
Vedan
Athalia/Sav
@slate zodiac part 2Its quite hard to work on incorporating your main dps (sav) and your better lb characters because u got no thank to get bonus.
Maybe even if you have the slots available.
Saveas
AThalia
Mirael
Skregg
Belinda
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@novel adder Thanks lol
Help please I'm stuck
@slate zodiac well will give it another day then. but i dont see how this can fix the problem of the game progression in the tsory being way too relient on the gacha
Anyone
@grim hatch is this 15-40?
Try this
Arden
Shem (dura's call)
Nemora
Brut/Thoran **try and see who buys more time most likely brut
Lyca
Keep trying until u get the charm on ferael. You probably need more levels though.
@azure kite you can in time just get shimera by doing labyrinth and get cions, arena of heroes each month you can get good units
If gacha is not on your side in time the game will just give you straight up S tier units
@coral solar i passed this with lyca nemora(lucius) tasi arden athilia
@violet pecan in that order?
@slim egret yep. try to overlevel him by a good 20 levels and you'll see some results.
@azure kite have you tried posting your formation here?
@coral solar yea
oh yeah i even followed the sticky advice @novel adder
i thought this stage was gonna be ez but i was a fool:( is this my best lineup
i feel with my lvls besides my carry this is my best bet
@violet pecan all L/L+?
@novel adder last chnace i see is saccing my ascendet heroes to upgrade some other ascendet ones... but that feels so bad
@edgy seal
try
Saveas
Hogan
Estrilda
Luci
Belinda
You might need some leveling because its gb against ur lb core. But you're close to quite a few big jump points so shouldnt be long til u break past
tips? can't really get past here
Grezhul thoran lyca Arden nemora @tacit kayak
Anyone?
@novel adder perhaps you can find a way if you want to take a look.
Any ideas?
@novel tusk formation seems fine. i think u just need levels on your shem.. she's ur highest leveled and on par with the entire opponent team.
You can opt to try nemora instead of tasi and try to charm saveas/isabella/vedan.. swap arden with lyca so he supports shem.. if he can root khasos before the axe thats good,otherwise drop him bottom position again. Use dura's call on shem.
Okay I'll try that thanks
cant get passed this one
@coral solar hmmm In the future try not to unnecessarily ascend ur characters to mythic before uve obtained 5 L+ characters.. you're kinda gated on lvl 140 right now which is bad.. and your closest to L+ are Luci and Bel which needs a huge amount of rng to pull. From now onward don't ascend any fancy ascended tier heroes.. focus just on fodder heroes to L+. You need to break that wall asap or you will suffer even more.
Seems quite clear youre underleveled.
But try swapping estri to luci's position and saveas to where estri currently is. I think its ur best bet.
@novel adder okay thanks will try that, yeah its 15-40
@gilded fractal swap shem and brut's position. As usual try the dura's call on shem or tasi..in this case my bet is on shem. Hogan is more disruptive than estrilda.. he has a lot of chain cc.
@novel adder ah ok, i just thought mirael and belinda would do too much dmg ;-;
Can I get some help with position and synergy. 💖
@azure kite try repositioning
Saveas
Shem
Lyca
Seirus
Arden/nemora
If seirus is dying too quickly try
Saveas
Shem
Numisu
Brut
Nemora
@novel adder both die too fast :( thx for the suggestions
is it a good idea to use both Belinda and Shemira in the same lineup?
@spiral cargo lol.. ic. Then depends on your roster. Chap 11 I use a Mythic Shemira as tank, and 3 Wilders back.
im at 11-37
@wispy vine you need to play with positioning a lot with this formation.. and sub between tasi and nemora to try things out.
Here i doubt shem can survive the brut spin. so swap with brut. Arden to top side so he doesn't get khasos axed and protects shem a bit more.
Tasi bottom so she blinks after khasos axe. If using nemo variation put nemo middle because lyca is more expendable to face tank the khasos axe.
i use Belinda Athalia and Nemora as backline
Any idea? Stuck for 2 days
Suggestions? 6 36. I cant put anybody on the front next to brutus top or bottom that lives. That entire side is demolished in .5srconds
@grizzled lodge you seem a bit underleveled. Just try swapping sav and fawkes position so he takes out priority targets first.. he's not overleveled enough to start with the easy ones. Otherwise it does seem like the best formation atm.
If you have reso slots try using khasos
Bel
Luci
Khasos
Brut
Sav
@sick creek swap numisu for fawkes and saveas for tasi. keep in mind you are incredibly underlvled. with these units you will pass when you are matching in lvl.
hm wait. perhaps you can give saveas lvl to belinda for now. saveas doesnt rlly start shining imo until ch 8 bc ch 7 is so lb heavy and ch 6 belinda is the best dps imo
@spiral cargo you might wanna show your whole roster here too cos need to know the their tiers too.
@ebon ridge hmmm
Sav frontline probably not good here
Try
Arden
Seirus
Nemora/tasi
Brut
Saveas
You need to rng crit so you can kill off khasos and morvus quick. also restart if ankhira cocoons saveas. hopefully wilder disruption is enough. Also i think it might be worth putting skregg on the cyrstal and use him instead of seirus.
ok ty !
@gilded fractal this is my usual power difference. Nothing you can suggest to help the front? Just afk a bit for levels?
@novel adder got it thanks
I can’t send pic of my line up 😦
@gilded fractal yeah mirael and bel dps is a concern.. but mirael's fireballs are rng scattered.. so there is hope haha
@dark pecan
Everytime u see niru u should try to snipe him first..
Try
Saveas
Shem
Khasos
Thoran
Safiya/Numisu.
Bel can't tank for her life especially against gb haha.
@sick creek yeah your front lines your best shot. all im saying if you got by so well bc u have a great lineup already so i dont think theres much to change except at least replacing numisu with fawkes since numisu is ass and fawkes is great in ch 6 heh
basically, if youre walled with the formation hogan/brutus/saveas/belinda/fawkes, afk for lvls.
@novel adder alright ill give it a shot ;; geez i really thought this would be easy with shem LOL
@novel adder Finally beat it with that third formation, much thanks
@spiral cargo @novel adder and others will be better person to advise u
@willow merlin could you show me your roster? in future post both ss so people can help you better. Also as much information as possible.. like how close u are, or if certain characters are instakilled. The more the info the better.
From what i can see
Try
Saveas
Hogan
Estrilda
Luci
Belinda/Nara
alright thanks
@spiral cargo and show your enemies pal.. lol
oh i meant in general, if its worth trading either nemora or athalia for a shemira
@gilded fractal why does everybody hate on nemisu? In case you're interested I fixed it by dropping everybody to 70. Leveling brutus to 100. Brutus estrilda front. Fawkes Belinda nemisu back.
@sick creek well....if he works for you i obviously wont tell you not to use him. for me at least his ult is useless, his totem being offensive or healing is too random and doesnt do enough of either, and theres better ppl who can haste (and also heal) hes too jack of all trades to be good.
@sick creek you are quite underleveled. Pump everything into saveas from now on.
Try swapping brut and hogan's position. Then also try a variation with tasi/fawkes in place of bel. But i suspect you are just underleveled. If you havent already try to max out the saveas union buffs. and pray for crits..
@spiral cargo whats the question again? haha is it a particular stage?
I'm #39 in my server for campaign progress I'm hugely underleveled. Everything into saveas generally goes horribly so far.
belinda is better in ch 6 imo yes youre underlvled. we know that, like i said earlier your lineup is solid so lvling WOULD let you pass these stages. there arent better heroes to use.
No xd, i was wondering if i should insert Shemira in my normal lineup to pair it with Belinda, just wondering if it was worth it, and if i should trade either Athalia or Nemora for it
my Shemira is only elite but so are Athalia and Nemora
@sick creek its normal.. you need him to hit a threshold when he will start murdering. max 160 L+ sav with level 120 support cast can bring u to late chapter 11 easy if you know what youre doing.
What level does saveas start to murder? I was just telling you how i beat that ridiculous power difference not arguing being the right level sir. I appreciate any and all input.
@spiral cargo Yeah shem for nemora is good in stages where u don't need the healing or the charm.. you should be flexible with your team. Swap them in and out.. have a core of 3 same faction (in your case Lb) to work around and just sub in and out when and where u need.
I'm on 6 39 now and think I just need to afk lol
Should I ascend belinda and vedan or just keep them to use as fodder on someone else?
alright thanks!
Any ideas ??
Level up
level up definitely
@sick creek honestly i don't recommend resetting so many times early game though.. those can rack up if you are just using it to beat stages.. chasing progress is overrated.. you gain more exp and coins.. those are the least important resources in the game. I only recommend resetting to optimise reso crystal. But yeah generally sav 10 to 20 levels above the competition usually should sweep.
I do like numisu haha.. after optimisation the totem placements make him pretty annoying to deal with.. best satisfaction comes when his totem baits an entire bel ult. He's good just not priority and exclusively used in a mauler setup
@novel flume for both cases wait for one more E+ fodder. Ascend Mirael and Vedan to L+ directly. Your priority right now is to get 5L+ characters.
Mirael not Belinda? i thought belinda was a better hero
Any tips for 9-20? Thanks! https://imgur.com/gallery/eboSqCd
This is my main lineup as a reference point
So uh... 100k difference to big a gap? Lmao
@solemn cloud
Try 2 things.
First swap athalia and hogan's place. I think it might help you snipe arden first if you get a nice crit.. Just retry til you get good crits. If you can't deal damage properly because of the arden root, try
Saveas
Hogan
Belinda
Athalia
Raine
or
Belinda
Saveas
Raine
Hogan
Athalia.
@sour coral I'd try Belinda/Arden/Lyca (top to bot) and Nemora/Lucius. Btw Lyca/Nemora/Arden is a stupid combo, you'll be safe with them later
Solid thanks !
@novel flume late game yes. early game debatable.. but the reason why u ascend legendary tier heroes early is so you don't get stuck at L (max level 140). For belinda you will need one more copy of her.. you are putting your future in the hands of your pulls... which the game can decide to screw u over. The mirael also doesnt go to waste later.. after you ascended her.. next lb character to L+ should be the first ascended hero you get 4 copies of. Say that's belinda.. so now u have belinda and mirael L+.. you can feed mirael to belinda to get her mythic. no waste, efficient and minimize the risk of rng messing ur progress.
Thanks
Some help here with formation ?
7-36 can some1 tell me how to pass it
Oh damn I still die so fast on 9-20 with nemora/Lucias and Belinda/Arden/lyca in the line up. 9-20 crazy!!!!!
@pale kettle swap brut and shem position
backline order use
Lyca, Nemora, Arden.. retry until u charm ferael. Use dura's call on shem
Saveas is at 87, everyone else at 61-63 including a lucius, should i keep pumping saveas?
@exotic falcon
try
Saveas
Brut
Vurk/belinda
Hogan
Fawkes/nemora
Otherwise just level saveas. U need him top to snipe niru and isabella asap.
@gentle remnant try this: lucius/shimera/belinda/brutus/saevas you shimera should survive long enough to get her ult off early
@timber fossil generally yes..
@sour coral Isabella and Niru are the problem here. If your heroes die before you kill niru, it's almost over. But wilders (at least Arden/Lyca/Nemora) are RNG based. Sometimes they'll cc the good heroes, sometimes they will not. Plus you need to look at the crits from the enemy team. Sometimes they crit, sometimes they don't, keep restarting so you know if it's a rng based problem or powerness. You can try to swap Lucius and Nemora if nemora dies too fast. And you can also try to focus Vedan first (Belinda backline bot then) and see how it goes
You have the level to pass it, but rng dependent
Aradar you are the greatest for giving me some help! I really appreciate it!!!
Any possible advice?
Any help on stage 9-20?
Azador ****** you are the greatest
@sour coral if it can help i sometimes put lyca in front to get past certain stages you can swap tasi with athi and try that too if nothing else works(athi will cc ira and will prevent her from attacking or even kill her if everything goes well)
@ashen mason swap hogan with arden put kaz in front and ardne in old place of kaz
Ahhhhhh I see I will try that too ! Thanks so much
Omg I won @uneven parcel tysm!
I'm stuck on 15 - 4
@sour coral @ashen mason yw ^^
Post stage picture :)
Help plez :) I also tried 5 LB team but they got ripped up by GBs
@soft sierra estril brutus, arden lyca tasi
@terse blaze Read part about skills unlock pls
Never have 3 champions hanging between those unlocks
Saveas
Lucius
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda/Nemora/Lyca/Estrilda
Then try this or mix this around
@tender nexus dude... you are killing us.... you really dont need helo. You can win this
Thank you for the encouragement but I actually am having a hard time
@tender nexus you can have many combinations point is only what works the best...
Saveas brutus baden (new gravrborn forgot name) tasi athalia
Saveas kaz tasi lucius nemora
Saveas brutus kaz tasi nemora
Tasi nemora arden saveas lucius
Just try it out... look for fanction bonus... look for faction bonus mg as well...i mean.. hoe kuch is power diff?
It's around 100k
@novel adder
9-20.. Any suggestions?
https://gyazo.com/af2d0a37416b0cb858b4f3c86f480fea
https://gyazo.com/aae469d9ce16d5851fdc8578040d3e0e
Thanks @ancient hound . I'll work on leveling belinda to 141. Too bad can't ascend anyone else. Also, not sure what you mean by "3 champions between unlocks"
@terse blaze you got level 113, 112, 112, 111 whereas it could be 121, 120, 101, 101 which is better
Oh... Ok. I thought it would've been better to keep them even so all my other heroes would be higher too. Ok. I'll reset a could and shift resources around. Thanks @ancient hound !
Any help ? I can only level up Lyca and Belinda, I’m at 8-12
How do you survive this saveas boss? He is so strong
What should my lineup be? ( I can reset a character to replace him with other lvl 1s )
Any help?
What's better elite Hogan or elite warek+ currently on 4-27
@regal bramble Vedan should be reaching his peak soon. You might wanna start building Savaes to replace Vedan, and build Shem to replace Sav when Shem reaches 161. Some people like a Belinda as their carry, Belinda is good but I not sure about her being your carry as it doesn't works for me. Belinda do works very well with Raine.
Meanwhile if you can lack of resourfes.. You can just focus on Vedan while building others. Vedan can feed to Shem later on to make her Mythic.
Wait how is his vedan a legendary? Mine is only a rare
you can ascend heroes
Mine is a blue
He’s level 64 at that level you have at least one legendary
#545929173471068170 .ascensionguide @lapis sand
But anyway What's better elite Hogan or elite warek+ currently on 4-27
How do u beat level 4-36 with Hogan, Grezhul, Mirael, Marvus and Ferael
I feel like I got a lucky pull, what heros would make the best team (also line locations please I'm new)
@spring estuary you can try Wilders CC heroes as they don't have to be high tier to be effective. Shem don't think can tank now and don't think she can be carry at your stage. You can try Brutus vs Ogi, Lucius vs golus, back 3 Wilders (Lyca Arden tasi). If you can get Arden to 141.. he will help a lot pm with Lyca haste. If tank die too fast can try park lyca in front of your tank.
You should know the best carry is still Sav until you get Shem to 161.
@ruby idol you should post your team vs enemies line-up for others to advise you. We won't rmb the stages 
Ah, 9-20, how I love thee... any advice? Thanks amigos.
@fierce kayak thank you!
@sand rune did u try to battle from top side to kill Niru first? Something like
Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Ezizh
Khasos
can anyone link me a battle log from 16-20 if available?stuck as hell on that yet
@primal torrent I think ur mauler line up is still best cause of faction buff
Something like this should work well
Saveas
Warek
Numisu
Khasos
Tasi/ lyca
I’m so stuck on this
Given my current heroes, should I stick to my current comp and just level them, or swap to shemira and thoran somewhere
What's better elite Hogan or elite warek+ currently on 4-27
@lapis sand this is lineup help
Thank marcel
Oh okay should I put elite warek+ or elite Rogan into my lineup? My lineup consist of tasi,isbella,arden, and IRA? @hasty night
@ruby idol first, carry always at least 20 levels above others. Sav usually is the carry at early to mid game but not sure if Belinda is doing better for you.
Can try:
Belinda
Estilda
Arden
Lucius
Sav
Or
Raine
Lucius
Belinda
Golus
Sav
Also, next time try to post both roster and stage together, hard to scroll up and down.. 😂
@fierce kayak thanks very much. Yeah sorry, first time posting. I wil try out the suggestions
@viscid hazel I’ll give that a shot. Niru is a nightmare.
@hasty night i would definitely recommend putting in shemira maybe for hogan cause she can tank pretty decent. Also consider putting nemora bottom to charm Brutus
Line up for this stage maybe
Ira
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
For future line up look out for graveborn pulls cause u could go for pretty stacked gb team mid game
Ty
@ruby idol np, not sure if they will work but something along that line or mix around with both teams I mentioned together.
@viscid hazel should I aim to get a lyca first since shes the last piece of the combo
Stuck at 7-36.can some1 help. Im currently unsure as to my 5th spot(saveas) thinking of swapping with elstrida for 3 lightbearer for bonus but even with elstrida i still couldnt pass it. Any1 has a better option?
@hasty night idk if my lineup is even good? Not sure who my best dmg dealer is and also 300 more gems for next 10 pull
Why is the warek in the back. Put your tanks up front. @lapis sand
@viscid hazel Ira tears through Ezizh is three hits and the rest crumples from there. Brutus has trouble against the Isabella in the back.
@hasty night only maybe u are pretty early into the game so wilder backline ain’t that great
Isabella isnt amazing with that team since she drains your own teams hp and u dont have a healer. Focus on IRA as your main DPS, put warek AND hogan up front. Try to over level your ira. Arden and Tasi dont need much leveling rn since they're support
@sand rune that’s a pretty hard stage I’m stuck on my smurf 9-20 as well
@lapis sand
@hasty night going I'm gonna reset Isabella then? And hopefully put couple levels into Hogan and warek
Imo get hogan and warek up to 41, along with task and Arden. Then dump the rest into ira
@viscid hazel it’s tough as they’ve got insane DPS
@ everyone here on early stages wilder backline is not so great in early game. If u wanna progress fast try to get faction bonuses
@gentle remnant did u consider running 3 graveborn? Like
Shemira
Brutus
Ferael
Thoran
Belinda / Lucius / Saveas / nemora
Any help?
Got some new ones, I'm at the end of chapter 6. Kind of debating on changing who I have on the resonating crystal for the buff too. In testing out a leveling thing, I also found that by collecting essence I ended up freeing a spot on the resonating crystal.
@hasty night Arcmy lineup is getting crushed en. Lvl 60 ira everyone else is like 43 average
Lineup suggestions ?
damn almost beat 16-20 :((( vedan vs my shem and i lost :////
@Sorrowin#7353 you’re right but ascending my estrilda change nothing to the fact of getting my others to L+ cause I don’t need these fodders to ascend my other to L+ I’m missing only a Belinda and Lucius to ascend en to L
Thanks😅
Any help on what to focus on?
Please help!
You need another tank, tan. Tasi isn’t a tank
8-12 help
@bronze dome any changes?
@coral solar if you kept the L+ fodder you would only need 1 more L+ to break level 140 cap. But now you need 2. Now u need to hope to draw 2 lucius and 1 belinda. I've played for >4 months.. only drew 1 belinda and 1 lucius. Do you see how risky that is? if you kept it.. drawing 1 belinda OR 2 lucius would solve ur problem
@pale kettle Arden instead of Brutus @pale kettle
Please help I'm struggling and dont kbow what to do
@novel adder yea I see
in the end yes its good to feed the L+ fodder. but wait for the right timing
@novel adder u mind helping me out?
But @novel adder having a mythic might have helped get throug some lvl having a hogan L+ wouldn’t have helped me
Any tips for 15-40?
Hi there, I am stuck at 11-40
Do you have any suggestions ? I tried to run saveas 160 but my team is getting absolutely shred when I do
@coral solar but with hogan you might have a level 160 whole team faster. You will understand when u hit the level cap. It will take too long if the game doesn't give you the exact drop u need. You can be stuck at a chapter for 3+ weeks because you cannot level anybody anymore.
Any advice on who to use
Right but I will have a 180 which can probably help a lot if I ever get there lol @novel adder
Help please I'm stuck. I’m new too the game
Thanks for Arden suggestion @coral solar it passed with luck
@novel adder I am stuck can u help me please who should I change
Np @pale kettle Arden is a must 😉
Also do you recommend resetting Brutus to upgrade Arden ?
Since he can go to lvl 120
Help, who should I upgrade to legendary Nemora or Lyca
Nemora
@lapis sand so your team is
Ira
Warek
Tasi
Hogan
Arden
something like that right
@pale kettle tbh I would easier to ascend Arden and he can carry at this lvl my opinion
@lapis sand you're basically quite underleveled. Its still early.. just afk and level your units. Probably better to run
Hogan, Ogi, Vurk, Lyca, Tasi. right now. just use ogi from the crystal.
I'd say none of them for now, you'd better wait for other hero to food because both of them are really useful
@hasty night yeah I'm playing two accs
@lapis sand your only other tank really is thoran so maybe try leveling him. Ogi isn’t bad but thoran will be better
Help please I'm stuck. I’m new too the game. pm me
(no one have a clue for my lineup question above?)
Alright I’ll do that @coral solar :) thanks I think that without you my phone would already be out by the window
@pale kettle everyone keep talking about savaes but I believe arden helps you more so yea
Lmaoo
@pale kettle personally Arden and lyca will get you far if you have em
@novel adder I have more than Lucius and Belinda that can get to L+ straight up so yea just waiting on any cards I need lol I doubt I’ll get stuck at 140 for weeks lol
@restive tangle put nemora ulmus and seirius in crystal and lvl up your L
And for the team I would use ulmus estrilda nemora arden Belinda @restive tangle
@coral solar well just a caution.. because ive seen it happen too many times in discord.. Its logical if you focus on too many units in the same faction it is not efficient because they all compete for the same fodder.
Anyone know what type of heroes I should go for and how to optimize my lineup?
Yea I know I got another account and I made atrocious mistakes lol @novel adder
9-28, should I just keep hitting begin until I eventually win? Lol
@random verge hogan ogi lyca nemora tasi
I'll try it but whenever I use ogi he insta dies lol
Na i mean lyca Arden and either nemora or tasi mb @random verge
Any advice? Can feed some to get some mythic heroes but not sure whats best atm
Use mirael infront then idk @random verge but lyca Arden tasi in the back will get you far
Alright I'll try again with Arden but silv goes after Arden or nemora when I use em so they never get an ult
Yea try using tasi instead of nemora
Tasi teleports and get always from her so she gets on someone else makes your team stay alive longer
Away * mybad autocorrect lol
Ye that's why I like tasi but silv targets either the lowest defense or lowest hp, I'm not entirely sure but i can't get her to target tasi regardless
@random verge lowest defence I think but just try different combinations youll see right away what works
Currently running Mirael/Ira/Fawkes with Lucius/Hogan frontline, was wondering if it'd be worth some resets to change my lineup over to some of the elite Graveborn I've pulled or just add some of the non-Lightbearer heroes into my current lineup.
@rough harness 1st off why do you have rare hogan in your top5 instead of elite hogan
I imagine it is the free one you get, but no point having both in, as you cant use them at same time.
Laziness + got elite Hogan after levelling blue Hogan.
And I would use estrilda over ira would give 5faction bonuses @rough harness
Stuck on 6-36, any suggestions for finishing out the chapter or is this one of those "Come back in 12" moments?
Also have one slot on the resonating open but idk who would be best to fill it.
Who shud I lvl my guys are underlvl against these bosses
@sand aspen I would recommend lvling up arden and using him instead of Numiso idk what his name is
@lapis sand I would reset lyca and lvl equally your team and put Arden in crystal and use thoran instead
@coral solar wait so my main 5 should be in the crystal right?
No whatever isnt on your top5 which is your best heroes should be in crystal
So who's my best heroes be? Lyca,thoran,vurk,tasi,and hogan?
Your elite heroes after would be elite+ etc if that makes sense
Also @coral solar can I replace Nemora with something else because she is basically a sitting duck doing no damages at all and always dies without using her healing even when she is under Lucius shield
@pale kettle replace her with tasi
@coral solar so instead of Arden in the middle thoran shud br in it?
Don’t have her :(
@pale kettle tasi arden lyca in the back
I mean just take out thoran of there and wait till arden is ascended to put it in crystal or top5
@pale kettle oh mybad then try to switch her in your back for her to get less damage so she can heal your team
She gets destroyed by Silvina no matters where I put her
What’s my optimal lineup disregarding level
@pale kettle switch her with estrilda
So Lucius estrilda Belinda Arden lyca
@coral solar this is what klmy lineup looks like now
Yep try that @lapis sand
Lost ;(
Okay will try