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Hogan isn't that bad if you lack an L brutus or lucius
Oh oof. Sorry I'm a little off xD
Meh ya my opinion of hogan and Belinda probably are worse than they actually are
Imma go try my luck in peaks of time feel free to tag me so i get the msg pop up
@viscid hazel Silvina just keep one shotting everything, I guess I’m just gonna have to wait till I can level everything up or get better people.
@tough salmon Nemora + Dura's grace or Tasi can work against Silvina. Is also about luck sometimes
Starting to doubt I can actually do this
Any improvements to be made?
@trail glade Read this & replace Morvus by a carry; probably Saveas, if you manage to ascend him or Arden
@stoic yoke
Eiron
Brutus
Nemora
Ulmus
Arden
Freewin
ulmus would be better?
Uhm yeah I have no idea I’ve tried so many things, help
I'd keep Hogan, @viscid hazel just isn't a fan of Hogan xD Also @stoic yoke you can always go for Nemora -> Saveas charm. Just keep trying until she charms him & you probably win. To achieve that she needs to be opposite of Saveas tho
@ancient hound only relevancy I can see to that is resetting morvus and boosting someone else to 100, right? Hes the only one who's not E+
Haha lol yes but for this stage if u wanna clear it the line up I recommended is pretty much save win tho
i was also stuck on that level, waited 24 hours and leveled enough to crush them
@trail glade true
sometimes you can just brute force it by collecting afk experience
@fallow maple Not all the time 😅
I've today encountered someone who was stuck at a level for 2 months, while actively collecting AFK Rewards, and doing daily + weekly objectives.
damn
All of that ^
Because he didn't reach above level 141
well its still early so iam sure this works out better at lower level
Agreed ^^
sometimes i won by just putting my nemora infront of a weaker tank and go all in on the bottom or top, soif youre facing an weak opponent hero damage wise this might work out
saveas and golus basically wreck my team by themselves
@stoic yoke what other heroes do you have
If you can put heroes on the crystal, put E Ogi on it. Then try:
Nemora
Ogi
Hogan
Brutus
Arden
And make sure Nemora charms Saveas
@wise merlin have you got some general tips vs Isabella? Usually still struggle against her
@ancient hound A level 121 Saveas does best work against her.
He peels off frontlines really quick and he can interrupt her several times, as her animations take time. Plus her energy Regen ability is time consuming too
ill try that out, thanks
Any tips are appreciated
@wise merlin Alrightz, already using Saveas yea, but sometimes my Saveas doesn't get through enemy frontline soon enough
U cant counter isabella haha
@ancient hound If enemy Frontline seems too strong, use a Fawkes to hold one for 7 seconds. Lots of valuable seconds where the game could be changed
Alrightz, I'll remember that ^^
Other peeps say charm ferael or sumthin
@tough trail I'd definitely want a Nemora charm in there. Each of those heroes can harm their own team really well 😃
erm, which hero should i make my second 81? hogan?
I hardly touch Vedan, but I just rocked
Tasi
Hogan
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
got the job done shrugs
@stoic yoke arden
Thiughts?
Maybe switch Nemora & Brutus so Brutus doesn't get disrupted as much by Ogi? What other heroes have you got?
hey guys, im currently using belinda saveas arden, lucius and brutus, i got my shemira to mythic now, should i bring her to 161 asap and whom should i replace her with? thanks!
Probably replace Belinda or Lucius with her, I think also depending on the stage
my belinda is 161 mythic, my strongest hero
@scenic knoll well you are 400k deficit...
Try out
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
To try and protect shemira until she cast spell
lucius brutus legendary, saveas arden legendary+
Keep shemira and drop saveas iv shes 161+
Saveas is still stronger than 180 shemira.... i would reset belinda and use shemira
Agreed, I think if you use her as dps replace Belinda, in some stages you might need more dps, less tank, then put her on front instead of Lucius
i see
I cant beat this stage.
@meager peak try to lufe vladimir to lucius by putting
Arden
Lucius
Shemira
Lyca
Tasi
@meager peak why don't you put Ferael in crystal and get all your heroes 161?
@ancient hound I need 6k more dust :)
@violet pecan I appreciate it. Was trying before but I'll keep retrying.
Ah alright, well I think you need a lot of CC here and damage on front. Tanks into Niru and Isabella usually doesn't help much. So try replace Lucius with Khasos or Brutus and get Nemora in backline for Lyca (more CC).
@ancient hound I like that idea too. Less tank more cc and dps
Nemora has to charm Isabella or Niru, otherwise you might as well restart immidiately 😃
Tips?
@oblique stone you don't have powder to get all 141?
no because not all are L+, only 2 are
They are, I see a Morvus, Silvina & Golus waiting. Throw those L+ in main 5 of crystal and get them 141. Then use your other toons who will be level 141 too
still dont have the essence to level up
Hmm, that isn't easy. I think you have positioned the best you can. Make sure Nemora charms Saveas & pray (?) Also try switching Lucius and Estrilda
ive tried switching, worse than keeping it like it is. And if i have nemora in a place where she can charm saveas she gets killed easy by khasos
She can charm Saveas from that position. Just need some luck
Best team lineup for wizz or Soren?
Currently using shemira Damage, belinda,Raine,estrilda and lucious or nemora (nemora let's people get more damage/lucious gives 4* bonus)
yeah but still she gets killed easy by khasos
@oblique stone Please do take your time while reading this ^^
You are hard capped at level 140, the only reason why it's so hard for you to progress
While you have 3 L+ tier heroes waiting to help you gain level 141 on all your 5 main, and Crystalized heroes.
Which are Golus, Silvina, and Morvus. ^^
@long jay wrizz id do lucius/shemira/belinda/raine/estrilda for sustain, or you could sub lucius out with thane IF you think your team could survive til the end without all dying without lucius. for soren id do lucius/thane/estrilda/shemira/belinda, qith thane distracting sorens charm.
@wise merlin did that when @ancient hound said to.
Okay, nice. ^^
@wise merlin can you help a person out please seems like I’m running to you for all the advice
Would Sylvania ( epic+ atm ) do better than shemira ( epic ) @wise merlin
Within the week I can get shemira legendary
@fading gull 😂 Guess it seems like it, it happens to be that way.
Yes, definitely, solely because her level cap would be higher.
Personally though, I'd replace Silvina with Thoran, since both Silvina and Shemira are easy to get (one from Tavern, the other from both tavern and Lab store. ^^)
@fading gull i would go for hogan, silvana, shemira grezhul nemora in your place
I don’t intend to use labyrinth coins for anything other than shemira copies and the barracks are only for that 1 free epic I’m trying to get
You could always put Thoran in the Crystal and he'll make a viable tank.
He’s on my 120 account and is tanking better than my epic luscious
You have a whale account?
No let me get both ss for you
Okay. ^^
@gilded fractal nice idea with Thane gotta try it, and ja Wizz thinking the same
Yes, but at E tier he's not the greatest.
Meanwhile, out of the 5 you have, Thoran is the most uncommon hero to receive duplicates of..
So it's your safest route.
@fading gull he only tank better because he is L while your orther tanks are Elite....
I’ve not gotten lucky with the summons unfortunately the game loves handing me graveborn heroes
And yes I’m very stonewalled in the main account
Swapping Silvina out with Thoran doesn't mean you won't use him anymore. He'll still be viable. Just through the crystal.
Not to mention, Silvina will be able to pull him level above 100 once you'll have all E+ tier heroes, making sure his current level cap and abilities increase ^^
@long jay i put duras call on lucius for at least soren btw. you wabt the shield up often to block charm
But this isn’t about that account it’s about my lvl 39 one I’ll try it out
@wise merlin Okay give me a detailed message on what to exactly do Cause my brain is fried atm
@fading gull Okay. ^^
Take Silvina out of the Crystal > Reset Thoran > Level up Silvina using Thoran's resources > Wait 24 hours to put Thoran in Crystal.
Anything I should be doing different ??
@spark pasture That's a very general question.. 
(Which belongs at #classic-questions btw)
@wise merlin also this was about replacing shemira not my tank....
Lol ight
Ulmus is much weaker than thoran at tanking hits atm
@fading gull As I said before, just because you reset him doesn't mean he won't be viable! You'll still be able to use him! The Crystal is a complicated future that helps you with resource management and priorities!
Hopefully those last 2 paragraphs help
@wise merlin so ummm what is my lineup exactly?
It'll stay as;
Shemira
Ulmus / Thoran
Nemora / Arden
Thoran / Ulmus
Arden / Nemora
Ok
@wise merlin i need feedback from you sir
@violet pecan Hello adventurer. ^^
Please specify so I'd know what exactly you may need 😋
Feedback on arena legend lineup. Can i improve it? And am i making some rookie mistakes @wise merlin
Nay possible lineups for this stage ? If not what to upgrade ?
@summer magnet do you have nore pixels?
@violet pecan Raine is not good in Arena.
I'd swap her for Tasi, and place Saveas in the first formation, to make sure a 3-2 Faction bonus of 15% HP and 15% ATK
I'd also swap Eironn out and put Baden instead, as his ghosts and spawns can make a rough day for those who don't know what he's about ;)
Additionally, placing Fawkes instead of Raine is optional as Raine isn't as effective in the Arena, more so in the Guild raids.
@violet pecan nope sry 😛
@novel adder thank you bro your line up suggestion about my 3 lb + switch between other factions for the 2 others worked well for me when i got stuck
@wise merlin
1st formation downgrades to 1/4 formation or 15% 20% from 25% 25%
2nd formation dont have viable option to put for faction bonus (khasos, vurk, warek)
3rd formations sometimes fawkes and tasi negates each other spells
Could someone help me with 11-32?
@fair sky swap brutus and saveas position. Pray for dodge from saveas and charm opponent saveas
@violet pecan
Saveas in 3rd formation.
Tasi in 2nd formation
And Fawkes in 3rd formation too
@violet pecan Also, sometimes it's better to put multiple factions, as you'll most likely be countered by a pre-edited formation of Graveborns vs your Lightbearers for example.
I'd put ones that don't go hard against each other (For example, a lineup of 5 heroes, 3 Maulers, and 3 Graveborns) so then the enemy will be countered by your other faction if they picked to counter faction
Stuck on 11-28. Tried a few different variations. Closest I can get is kill Sav and khasos or golus/spider. Do I just need levels?
Help me 7-20
Stuck on 11-32. Any comp recommendations?
@dry apex
Try
Tasi or Sav
Sav /Lyca
Lyca/Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Tried all those variations lol. Nemora gets 1 shotted by khasos on bottom. Tasi doesn't banish fast enough without lyca x( @indigo jolt
@wise merlin thank you for the tips... i swaped raine with shemira... will see what 2 silence can do 🏋️♂️
Tried athalia at all to allow for an initial delay but it might weaken you too much?
@pale kettle you need higher lvl... afk more. No help here man... even if i told you rivht squad... i have less ascended heroes but i reached higher stage than you...
Go for 141 on all heroes first... or lvl up brutus to 180 and pray for him to solo
Haha. Right!
Hello, any help please ? 15-40
Help me make a team again 12-30 stuck for a whale (get it) i have almost all heroes except the new ones
question - I got Lightbringer Lucius / The Demise Vedan on a reroll - is that good enough? for a start?
@onyx basin arden, tasi, lyca, lucius saveas.
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Lucius
Tasi
If silvana jump on tasi, swap the position with arden. Taee care of Vedan and silvana first by saveas o top
I can’t post pics from my iPhone in this chat smh
@violet pecan mvp thank you so much❤️
@pale kettle lyca arden nemora lucius shemira doesnt work?
Lucius is killed really fast :/
@pale kettle by who?
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Arden
Hope for nemora charm on grezhul and arden rooting bottom 3 while your shemira does the work
I will try that thank you, it seems to work better than my previous team
Need help, any suggestions? I also tried LUCIUS/TASI Front, BELINDA/LUCA/NEMORA back https://imgur.com/gallery/LRN7rC6
One silvina ok but two is overkill now
Stuck at 3-36. Advice on what to do? Started the game 2 days ago
try to get enough heroes leveled to get faction advantages
So just keep pulling at 2700 diamonds? Do i prioritize units from tier lists or just anything that gives me faction bonus
And make sure to ascend who you can! Looks like you can ascend the centaur guy (whose name i don't remember whoops)
Is there a point in ascending units that i dont use?
Yeah, to get from Rare+ to elite you need any two other Rare+ from the same faction
No point in leveling ones you don't use, but def ascend them
Can someone help me ?
Ideas?
Oh i thought i needed the same character
help plz
Anyone got a tip for 21-4?
@wispy cosmos you are too good to need help ahaha you should def help me
@wispy cosmos put your safiya on cristal
Since the next patch the zone will stay after her death
So the tasis are really slow
U don't care if she die
Tips for 16-20 ?
14-4 need some help I cant manage to kill the bat guy and Isabella( Bat guy as in the gb one)
Anyone got any ideas for 15-34? The struggle is real. 😔
Try replace tasi with nemora maybe
I passed that with Shem Bru nemora lyca Arden. But my brutus and shemira 180 while the rest are 160 . @pale kettle.
Maybe
Nemora
Shemira call( grace/drape if call on tasi
Lyca
Brutus eye
Arden or tasi
But I forgot about the artifact
I've tried swapping Mirael and Arden for vedan and ferael, I've tried using nemora instead of Arden and I've tried vedan instead of Hogan. None of those worked after several attempts. Any ideas?
Oh and it's 9-20, my bad
i don't know how to deal with Vedan...once he turn into bats he just wreck everything
Cant kill Vedan and Isabella ;-;
Thanks for the advice @still oar , that did it after a few tries even at my existing levels without resetting!
Bean saves the day again
Someone help my l
Is this a good comp for chapter 6? What should I change or replace? 1 free crystal slot. I'm on 6 8.
Just got an incredible spin giving me Brutus, and I was finally able to Ascend Saveas to Elite. I'm thinking Backline of Raine, Saveas, Nemora, and Frontline of Brutus and Lucius. Thoughts?
Swap any of those 5 heroes out for someone else? Switch the formation?
Should I go for nemora mythic + or shimera mythic
@willow moon don't need raine if you dont have belinda/shemira/Arden. You can either slot in one mauler or just break bonus and slot any heroes you prefer.
The only other Mauler I have (besides Saveas and Brutus) is Numisu, plus Raine is my only E+
@willow moon rank doesn't matter raine is useless like @fierce kayak said
Should elite athalia replace an elite+ vedan
@willow kelp thats unfortunate :/ so if I got Belinda/Shem/Arden then she'd be worth?
yes belinda will be shotgun
@fierce kayak @willow kelp I have an Arden+ that I could ascend to Elite. Would that have an impact on what I should do with my lineup?
nope
Anyone have any idea on how to improve cause im struggling real bad
So.. Lucius Brutus FL, Nemora Saveas Numisu?? Based on what I have
@burnt dust Try hogan in frontlane with Lucius and switch vedan with Athalia
I have a L Shemira, and an Elite+ Tasi, and an Elite Nemora. I have enough Lab coins to buy Nemora or Shemira, and I have enough to make a Wilder legendary. Should I legend Tasi and then just buy a shemira token or buy a nemora token and make her legend
@willow moon use mirael instead of numisu
I’m desperate at this point
shemira, tasi, nemora, arden, lyca if you have her otherwise serius @prime vapor
Tips for 11-8?
Hi all, should I sacrifice my e+ sayifa and khaos to get seveas to leg?
@willow kelp Sorry for the late reply. I thought Mirael was trash?
Def not @stone moat
Guess I'll just focus on leveling Belinda then
Really struggling on this level, anyone offer any help? I’ve been setting up in the fashion below, with Saveas being max level (I believe 96) and everyone else 81. Just can’t figure out what to do.
Any recommended changes?
Would feeding leg+ saveas to mythic a brutus be worth it?
am I playing the game right?
@inner trout that's pretty much what I used until like chapter 6, it's pretty easy with anything early game. Just takes some time to get through the early levels, that's my opinion at least
@inner trout dont worry too much. just play. you could always reroll anyway
Thanks, really happy to get any feedback, spent half the day rerolling for my waifu. I have no idea what I’m doing tho lol
@keen cedar usually if 5heroes in resonating crystal reach 161, saveas could be treated as mere material
Anyone know what I could do with this? Tried switching Mirael/Arden for ferael/vedan and also tried vedan instead of Lyca or Hogan but didn't work. I'm stuck lol also tried nemora instead of arden
@shut harness I feel your pain lol same stage
literally cannot do anything lol
Same :(
been stuck on this stage for a few days, since i don't progress i can't get gems which means i can't get more fodder or new heroes and that means that i can't do anyhting except afk more
Ima DM you lol this 30sec wait is counterproductive to a conversation lmao
All my advice for 9-20 I put in my pinned.👍🏻
You recommend seirus for frontlining, but my seirus gets bodied in mere seconds
@shut harness Yes, because he's Wilder so he's still at a faction advantage.. but tbh he's a last resort. He's kinda terrible, needs to be in full Wilder teams.
More like if there are no other tank options.😅 Also.. yours is just E, he's even worse at low ascensions.
Seirus is just for the CC from his ult from what I've seen and he's decent at that to an extent... But tasi is a thing so
i mean... i already made it clear that i haven't been getting duplicates to ascend my current ones
I get dupes all day... Of greens lmao
And I just said all the advice I can give for 9-20 is already in my pinned.
I'll try to work with your teams but it's very limited what I can work with, if ascensions are capped.
yes, and I looked at that advice, ive tried several different combinations with my line-up already and are trying yours right now
Lol
Wrong pic lmao, I'm stuck for a weekwhat should I do
@random verge
Golus Ogi/Lyca
Tasi/Arden Vedan Ferael
Can you try this out several times?
@pale rover I'll try it now
@shut harness You actually have good heroes, just not enough tanks..
Vedan Saveas
Khasos Numisu/Ira/Tasi Arden work?
@short axle Team's not bad. You're getting wrecked because there's an Arden powered by a Lyca, so he roots asap and gives your opponent the advantage. Have you tried Estrilda or Belinda out for Lyca?
Any recommended changes?
@crisp helm That's fine for early team!
Any ideas ??
I'm looking for some help on who to focus on. Ready to do some resets if needed. Also, I got 2 resonating crystal slots off cool down soon
@wintry bough
Golus Skreg
Baden/Isabella (replace with Shemira if you get her), Saveas (get him to E asap), Arden for the minimum team bonus
I don't have ira on my resonating crystal but currently the combinations aren't working
@solemn cloud Always check the faction advantages/disadvantages when building a team. If you put a Wilder in front of Maulers, he'll be decimated.
Hogan Saveas/Athalia
Tasi Belinda Saveas/Athalia
Cant manage to pass this stage :c
@shut harness The team I used to beat 9-20 iirc.. Ogi Grezhul front, Saveas Shemira Arden back. I hope you get more pulls and more drops, for now focus on gear and levelling them as far as you can first. If dustlocked, you may need to wait a bit.
@south herald Your team is okay, replace Estrilda with Fawkes and keep trying. Also move them around, sometimes weird positions work with good RNG.
Can anybody help me change my lineup for 6 8 and on? I have 1 free crystal and dont mind doing a reset or 2.
I’ve been stuck for sooo long
@sick creek
Brutus Hogan
Saveas Belinda Raine/Tasi
@pale rover Thank you for the advice you're giving to everyone! Went Golus, Skreg, Baden, Saveas, and Arden all the way to 61. Got any thoughts on who i should take to 81 first?
@pale rover thank you, would you keep them all same level or focus on 1 overleveled carry with rest same level?
@pale kettle Fawkes instead of Tasi. Level your Brutus as much as possible and replace Golus.
Thanks but Brutus is only 140 since that’s his max : (
@wintry bough You're welcome! Get Saveas to 141 asap, followed by Brutus, Skreg, Baden/Arden in that order.
@sick creek Saveas overlevel, then tanks, then dps/support.
@pale kettle Try Fawkes first instead of Tasi. At the very least that will give your team a bigger bonus, you might win because of it.
@pale rover so basically put Hogan and saveas on my main roster for now? I put them into the crystal because someone warned me about crystal levels. Sorry for all the follow up questions you are an amazing person ^^
@sick creek It doesn't matter if you don't use the ones you manually level on your main team, what matters is you manually level the ones you have that are most capable of ascending the furthest (i.e. units that are at L you can level further than ones at E, so you level the L ones manually then Resonating Crystal the lower ones). The ones in the crystal will take the levels of the manually levelled ones, so if you have a Lyca at 140 manually levelled, your E Tasi in crystal will also be 140 despite her ascension. Going to higher than 160 only works for ascended heroes, the Legendary+ tier ones get capped at 160 but follow the same rule.
@pale rover saveas and Hogan will be locked at L+ eventually is why i was asking but I guess I shouldn't care until I get there?
@pale rover Any advice one which faction I should use scrolls on? Thank you again, team already works much better!
@sick creek By then, if all your heroes are at L+ and you suddenly get one of your heroes to mythic you'll reset one of the 160 capped ones and place them in the Resonating Crystal.
@wintry bough Wilders are the best pull to get heroes from, then Graveborn. I suggest saving your faction scrolls first as they are hard to get, and focus on building up your library with normal scroll/diamond pulls. When you have more heroes you'll be better able to tell which faction to pull for.
sweet, thank you!
6-36 is my first wall here it seems. Top row is my team with Saveas instead of Thane.
@potent forge The pinned guide in this channel will help you for late ch6.
Estrilda and Hogan get destroyed so fast, faster than I can kill
Yeah that link says File is protected and I can't load 😞
Is this worth it?
@potent forge https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n1XLVnLswORV5pYRfnHtWhvNWAVUNIX0TNjZzzt_LaY
This one? Take the time to read it in case you are able to (maybe not on mobile), a lot of people said it helped them build their future teams too. It would be nice if you gained something from it!
Hogan Golus front
Belinda Saveas Arden back.
@weak fiber All ascension goes to #classic-questions. I'll answer you there.
@late sluice That's an okay team, replace Nemora for Arden/Tasi. Level more if you're getting killed too fast.
Thank you
Hello
Any tips to beat this boss? Or do I need to afk more
@pale rover definitely getting killed to fast but have had a few good rng with my first line up. Hmm. Idk who to level
I need help on 11-28
@weak fiber wilder against maulers?
Haaaalp, pls last gate to 21 😥 😥 😥
Can someone help with lineup/who to use getting molly whopped at 6-28
@unreal flare that what I was just trying at that moment and doesn't really matter everything gets one shotted I think I hit a power cap
@pale rover I tried Lyca in for Estrilda/Belinda with no luck. Guess I'm just stuck waiting for purple dust, thanks anyways!!
What do I do with this? What should my lineup be for max power (especially to do story)
Need tips for 16-20 😦
Should i leg+ my arden and feed him to mythic my nemora or leave for fodder?
What units should I focus on?
wheres pve tier list?
Lucian. Start getting sav ascended, he's a great carry for a long while. @open cairn
How do I ascend him
I don’t have copies
Also am I using the right team? Or should I swap someone else in
Right. When you get them focus on him over other maulers. Unless you get brutus.
Could someone help me with a good lineup stuck on 6-4 I’m out of ideas tried everything thanks in advance !
Hey, in stuck there too
@round verge i want your nara :(
I have a third copy too. One more and I can start ascending her. @quartz tree
is nara all that good?
Fighting Wrizz, my setup is
Saveas
Shemira
Raine
Lucius
Belinda
Who should I give what artifacts?
Any suggestions on what I should be using atm my five shown were doing rather well but I’m starting to hit a block again and I don’t know if its gear (trying to get all elite+ I see in shop or legendary gear I can but it’s not easy without $$$ spending). I’ve gotten a few new characters to pick from and I’m not wise on what’s the up and up right now.
@pale kettle she's strong situationally. Like for grabbing a Silvina off a mage. Or deleting a Brutus through his shield.
Hello everyone ! I'm stuck at this stage and i don't what to do.. have i to up shemira 160 then the rest of my team or something else ? I don't know...
@placid willow you rushed to much with lvl... but use arden instead of raine and nemora instead of estrilda and ulmus instead of lucius
You need good CC to achieve higher PVE stage with shemira as main ps...
Arden
Ulmus
Shemira
Thoran
Nemor
Ok thank you ! I will try this
Been stuck here a few days, can’t find a lineup that kills more than 3 of the other team. No Brutus or Shemira, and my Lucius feels very squishy. Any suggestions?
I also have an open slot on the crystal if you see anyone who should be in there.
I’ve been stuck for sooo long
what should i change?
Who should I start leveling up now until I can ascend shemira? Tasi?
Did you reset all your heroes? how high can you level a main team? You have some really good pulls for that early in the game. I would go:
Shemira
-----Brutus
Arden
-----Estrilda
Belinda or Nemora
You want your DPS to burn down Hogan and Lyca, and then it's pretty easy cleanup. @restive tangle
@steep wharf swap grezhul with saveas position... and pray to RNG God
@restive tangle everyonr is LVL1 mate... you are trolling?
@old coyote put saveas instead of rain... try it
@merry dagger try to get l+ saveas and relly on bim when you get L saveas swap it with shemira in your squad... he can carry you to ch16 with good squad
@restive tangle lvlup arden hogan estrilda belinda nemora
I refuse to use him. I just don't like him. I'm OK with the squad I have atm but I need help with who to level up next 🙂
Looking for suggestion for this lineup

@dull mirage dont use brutus before 141
Belinda
Saveas
Fawke
Lucius
Arden
@dull mirage
Tasi
Saveas
Arden
Lucius/Brutus
Nemora - Fawkes could also work if he grabs Niru
@violet pecan , sorry just wondering why no Brutus before 141? @ancient hound thanks!
@merry dagger than go to #classic-questions
2x101 3x85 @steep wharf
@restive tangle I explained you yesterday you don't go 3x 85 😃 focus on 1 hero next skillpoint
And nope Trolling, i just reset all
@dull mirage read his skills and read what he gets at 141 lvl. It should be self explained
I did @ancient hound
@restive tangle Then max Shemira and one of your frontliners and go for it
The heal and top, mid is op
@restive tangle it is not. Relax. You are not ascending heroes on right way.... you have 3 different lightbreanger food only as elite....
@ancient hound thanks for the suggestion, I got through 10-20 using the formation u suggested
Dont use potential-ascended heroes as fodder
Any suggestions?
@dull mirage welcome, you can use that combination of heroes for many levels in that chapter
Suggestions on a different line up? If I have anyone in the crystal that shouldn’t be and someone else should be so I can use them, yell at me too 😂
Any ideas?
Nemora (81)
Hogan (rest)
Arden (81)
Brutus (101)
Belinda (101)
@restive tangle try this setup, if the 2x 101 + 3x 85 was right you should be able to build this. Try at least 15 times.
@grizzled lodge remove Lucius, he get shred by that L Brutus. Put your Brutus vs enemy brutus. Get Arden in crystal & get him in. Also don't sub-level all your heroes. Get them from 81 to 101 per unit at once. Saveas first
@lusty totem something like:
Nemora
Saveas
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Focus on Saveas (1) and Brutus (2). You can swap Tasi/Lyca/Arden depending on stage requirements.
Who should I put in front of Golus?
Depends on stage. I usually put my tankiest frontline against their tankiest frontline. And focus all my damage into the other part of battle. (I think?)
Whats a good team comp
@gloomy haven Also Angelo is NOT good at all. I'd replace him by Tasi
@ancient hound Who do you think I should get legendary?
raine or estrilda
@restive tangle none. Raine and Estrilda are both ascended tier. Wait for another Hogan or Angelo. Also Thike, you can get VERY far with L Brutus & Arden & Nemora
Lucius got torn apart by Golus in 2seconds

lvl them up; since the enemies are high tiers and higher lvl
@dull mirage your setup is good, now just keep replacing Lucius with other heroes and try like 10 times (Nemora must charm Saveas). Try Skreg, Lucius, Shemira, Brutus, Grezhul, Estrilda
How do i do this
Okiee!
@round zenith @ancient hound thanks both for the suggestion ❤️
184K vs. 289K. wow.
@ancient hound ok thx
I've also done it with that kinda numbers actually. That chapter is just Wilder-luck reliant ^^
@round zenith do Arden and Nemora survive khasos axes?
lemme see; the khasos dont aim for arden and nemora he just hits lucious and then goes to kill my shemira; ok sure ill try that
Oh and I'd for sure reset Arden & get Saveas 157
Stuck on 9-28
Reset Arden to 141 and max saveas @round zenith. Put grace on saveas to outlive them
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@limber copper don't let your dps (sav, brut) go on enemy tank (ogi). Put them in bottom.
@ancient hound just pulled the Tasi a few ago, actually 😂 thanks! I knew with the new pulls I got someone was bound to be better then someone 🤐
ok so i die much much faster, the other saveas annd khasos eats my savaes
Keep trying and wait for Nemora charm on enemy Sav, tell us how it goes then
ok
Good morning people 😴 
Feel free to ping me if you seek help!
ok nemora doesnt even have enough time for charm to activate since she dies in like 3 secs; edit not even 3 secs like instantly
And if you put Grace on her and Eye on Sav? Best magic boots also on Nemora
doesnt matter savaes does a bit of dmg and gets demolished, so does nemora
campaign savaes is so op tf
Hmm yeah L+ into Ascended might be a bit underlevel xD maybe @wise merlin has got some inspiration?
my savaes only does like 9.6k dmg
@ancient hound so I should reset Angelo and put it all to Tasi? To confirm
Any tips on this one? 16-20
tasi better right?
You need to charm enemy saveas, otherwise it won't work anyway. Did you also put best boots on Nemora or does she not charm at all?
Uhm @gloomy haven wait. You need to replace angelo by tasi, but level up your carries max level, not tasi.
Idk what to do, my Lucius die so quick
lvl him up
swap front line maybe
@round zenith Hello 
After taking a quick look at your formation vs the enemy's it's obvious to me that you must reach level 141 as your minimum level on crystal.
Focus on getting more fodder, buy more Shemira's from the lab store, and hope for the best pulls possible since the enemy is above level 140, and their abilities are upgraded.
ok sure ty
@idle girder Nemora in bot & make sure to charm Isabella (depends on luck & better boots)
Lol @round verge and @idle girder you are both at same stage :p
Indeed
I'm stuck on 8-36. How can i pass this stage?
@round verge Ah well, maybe Nemora 161 isn't the best idea
Maybe try this:
Ferael
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora --> best boots & charm isabella
But I have to say it's problematic that Lucius is your (only) tank and you fight against Graveborn.
So I mainly use Lightbringers but after some summons I got a bunch of excess Wilders. Do I forgo 4-1 faction bonus to put in a Leg/Epic+ Wilder? If so which one?
Ya I don't know what hero would help at 161
@round verge I clear that lvl with this
Top down lyca lucius top down tasi shemira and nemora, Silvana have to Focus on tasi or u gonna lose, but I clear that on more than 200 attempts
@dusky parrot wow with those levels you should be able to be in chapter 10
Thanks Wiz. I may need a few more levels
Be pattient, that one is pretty hard
@round verge I updated an older message, so in case u missed it: (I actually don't know if you get pinged again in updated msg)
Maybe try this:
Ferael (so WizarD suggest Lyca instead Ferael, which is also good option ofc)
Shemira
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora --> best boots & charm isabella
But I have to say it's problematic that Lucius is your (only) tank and you fight against Graveborn.
@ancient hound Yes, you do get pinged again 😉
Thx hiker. I'll try that
@hollow patio get Arden to E+ then save the rest of your fodders. You don't need them on L yet
What can I do now?
@wise merlin ah thx, good to know!
@Hiker Yeah, I have a bit of fortune on my side. but I can't go on until my heroes are taken out immediately.
Shemira not enough to 1v2 the remaining Vedan and Niru. Kinda stuck since Vedan basically obliterates the rest of the team. Any way to get past this aside from waiting? xD
@dusky parrot specific help:
Belinda
Hogan
Ira
Lucius
Athalia
Try to swap Belinda for Nemora if it doesn't work out
@ancient hound thanks man, sounds like solid advice
@Hiker Ok.
@upper path Swap Fawkes for Belinda.
If that doesn't work, swap Fawkes for Athalia, preventing Silvina to blink towards an enemy.
Aim for more fodder to go above level 140!
Alright I'll see what I can do. Silvina moves faster than athalia tho
Oh she does? 
Help pls stuck
@buoyant jasper get your damage (Shemira) to top. Replace Ogi by Hogan/ Brutus or Estrilda. Also make sure Niru gets charmed by Nemora.
My trick is usually to put in a trio of a Mage at Frontline (Shemira in your case)
An Estrilda behind her (to cc) and a Fawkes to mark her for 7 seconds.
@upper path
Not good, entire team melts in 20 seconds still. Jesus Christ team looks better than mine so your luck must be insane.
Yeah... Enemy Brutus has 7 seconds immunity so he's nullifying your Saveas' damage, and Golus gets extremely tanky, also nullifying your damage...
Hard spot to be stuck at..
I feel like if I afk long enough the problem will go away but then I'll just face something else
@ancient hound Just tried, moving Shemira to top makes Vedan oneshot my backline. Ogi lasts longer than Hogan and about the same as Brutus because of the CC :S
@buoyant jasper Okay and if you then switch Shemira back? It might also be due to a too big gap between Shemira and the rest of your team though. If Shemira can carry it's fine to level her so far ahead, but if she can't you might want to get her back to 105-110 and get Brutus or Hogan to 101
@ancient hound It didn't work, I tried to use your instructions and I even tried to change Belinda with Nemora, but we are always on the same problem.
Yeah, she was basically a one woman army but she can't deal with those two regen so I may need to reset her and give some of the xp to brutus
@dusky parrot idk try this? And I suppose the problem is that Silvina oneshot you?
Khasos/Estrilda
Nemora + Dura's Grace
Ira
Hogan
Athalia
Hey, any help for this one? 16-12, I can't put arden in cause silvina one shots him
@midnight crag try swaping lyca and shemira positiom
@midnight crag Grezhul counters Shemira, so switch Brutus & Shemira. Switching Lyca & Shemira might work too, like @violet pecan says ^^ Also get Nemora to charm Isabella.
@ancient hound Yes, she is with Niru.
I tried the lyca front but shemira doesn't get the ult as fast as she did in front line
@dusky parrot I gave you as many tips as I could. Just keep trying and switching positions. You might simply need a better comp, including a Saveas, Brutus or Shemira
@midnight crag what problem you run into when Shemira bot front?
Switching shemira with Brutus doesn't help either, golus hard tanks shemira
And if nemora charms golus, Isabella just kills shemira after that
Nemora needs to charm Isabella
@ancient hound I'll try my best.
Yeah if nemora charms Isabella, golus/vurk kill shemira
I feel like my lineup is bad, shem and luci in front sometimes die fast. Any recommendations?
@midnight crag could also try to still get Arden in and lower Nemora (probably best) or Tasi defense enough to attract Silvina.
Maybe some other heroes can help?
Rushed through the first half of chapter 10 with this comp but this stage just destroys me no matter how lucky I get, any help ?
I can't get nemoras defence lower enough, I'm trying with tasi now. Hope it somehow works
Lyca
Shemira (+ Call)
Nemora
Eironn (+ Grace)
Brutus
@Mr.T#0181 Maybe Eironn just gets oneshotted, but it would be interesting to see what happens if pull goes through
Anyone able to help with a comp for 10-36? I keep getting smacked lmao
Any Help?
Any ideas,
Eironn gets oneshoted lol @ancient hound
Yeah okay, kinda expected that, was worth a shot. Stick to the tactic inbefore and if you still can't pass ping Nicky
Alright ty!
@sterile lotus try:
Lucius (+call)
Brutus (+grace)
Arden
Saveas (+eye)
Nemora --> must charm Saveas
@grizzled lodge you should really fix this levels first now
alright i got most that already ill try it rq
ok, thx. There's nothing I can do now?
Stucked again at this level. Any other way to avoid Silvina targeting nemora?
@dull mirage there is no way to prevent that.. because your nemora is e and tasi e+... you can try swaping gear
@ancient hound it will work but my arden keeps getting oneshot, so hopefully itll be all good once i level
unless i should make my arden leg but id have to sacrifice kaz
@dull mirage swap gear in a way that nemora has more armor than the others
@wise merlin hey, can you help me with this stage if possible? As @ancient hound suggested,i put in arden and lowered tasis defence so silvina jumps on her, but so far I can't even kill anyone. Thanks :)
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Anyone got some advice? Main problem is mainly that bottom takes to long to kill. Tried lyca as "meatshield", dies to fast, brutus dies too fast aswell. Same with ogi
8-32
@dull mirage you can swap Nemora & Saveas. You sacrifice Nemora but Saveas should then kill Silvina. Let me know
@lapis roost so try to kill their top fast and then go 5 vs 3. So:
Tasi
Saveas
Lyca
Estrilda
Arden
@midnight crag Greetings, Adventurer 
You may need to abuse some faction bonus in a lineup like this as the enemy shares the same, which will be extremely hard for you to deal with a Golus, Silvina, and Isabella who have 15% more HP and 15% more ATK rating.
Swap out Brutus for Nara, see if she could survive using the Grace artifact if not used on Shemira.
It'll trigger the 3-2 faction bonus and maybe will help you receive enough sustain to survive Isabella and Silvina's accumulative damage.
Make sure your Nemora charms are on point (Prioritize charm onto Isabella, Vurk, or Grezhul, all will work just fine.)
Your new formation should look like so;
Nara
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Tasi
As Lyca is only effective for her haste, her ult won't help you much here.
You put Shemira into Grezhul? I thought Grezhul counter her?
worst nightmare GG
@ancient hound ty, and reason for estrilda > lucius?
Estrilda is L and has some nice CC to keep the enemies busy, while you focus to kill the top enemies.
@ancient hound Graveborns have damage advantage over Lightbearers, Estrilda wouldn't survive at her current ascension tier and level against the enemy.
Any tips
for 10-20? My comp and heroes are available with a bit of scrolling up don't want to spam
@versed canopy show me ur heroes
Any Help?
@wise merlin that's why I suggested Arden too. And I think Estrilda should be able to get her charge off? Anyway, she used Lucius before, which is worse imo.
@ancient hound She'd be transfered as free energy for Isabella and slowly will peel off the rest of the team with her global ultimate move.
Risky play, doable but very risky, alot of dependency on RNG with a miniscule odd of winning.
Do you have a better suggestions with the given options and given that Brutus and Ogi also die 'too fast'? 🙈 I think if you are playing on the edge of what you can win, you gotta use that small RNG window to advance?
@wise merlin i will try that ty
@versed canopy u have to lvl up
need pentragram heroes 140
And compwise ?
well i finished brutus lucius saveas belinda raine
@ancient hound thanks man
@ancient hound your comp didn't work, but it showed me that estrilda can survive bottom, where brutus and so on failed. so i removed saevas and put lucius in.
And to kill niru faster i put lyca on 3. tasi 4, arden 5. and worked right away.
Brutus is still hiding from me in summons, just wanted to see if anybody had advices on how to counter them with my current heroes, to be honest people are telling me to level up since the beginning of chapter 9 and somehow there was always a way to win thanks to the pros in this chat
@lapis roost nice, I'm surprised you had enough damage with that comp. I guess the union bonus also helped you (3x wilder). You can remember that for next time 😉 gives you 15% more HP too
actually the damage was the same, but that was probably mainly because when i had saevas at bottom, since he was the only one capable of tanking it, he did super low dmg to golus.
no clue how, but that comp is wrecking the next 5 fights aswell
The three Wilder backline is quite strong, but usually people use more damage-based frontlines instead of a Lucian with it
@wise merlin that formation is worse than the one before :/
yeah it is indeed, but when i used brutus or anything it always felt like im dying to quickly, so lucian did the deal for me. Maybe with nemora or higher levels it will change dunno.
@midnight crag how does Nara do? Maybe if you switch Shemira & Nara and Nemora & Tasi?
@midnight crag Yeah, it's problematic when your enemies are level 181, granting ability buff while yours aren't... :x
Nara pulls silvina but not fast enough and tasi dies, I'm trying to lvl up the ones at 155 to 160 so I can unlock the 181 with shemira
Who shall I use
12-40 advice please
Any help pls
.
8-16 advice. Any help appreciated.
Lucius/arden/Tasi/Lyca/Nemora is a cc heavy defensive comp
it will carry you till chap10, then you´ll need a damage dealer
I’m stuck on the same level. No Lucius. Sav is my main damage. Silvina slices through my whole back line like butter. No combo of the wilder cc all stars makes a difference. Think I just need more levels/better gear
Should I sac a Fareal or Isa to make my shemira ascended?
for Silvina, you need to make her hit Tasi.
its not worth it
yes
Kinda stuck in 16 now, trying to find a way out
dump isabella, ferael gets good later on but not her
That’s enough Fareals to get him ascended right? Maybe worth holding onto I guess.
I’d wait and just use vedan. Think you’ll be grateful later
Stuck at 11-40. Any suggestions are welcome
Is sav, estrilda, lyca, nemora, Arden/tasi viable at 101?
Stuck here
@stoic aspen have you thought about resetting sav and getting shemira to 161?
@plucky flint ya except for estrilda she’s only decent not too great
@stoic aspen ya if you reset sav for Shem you’d go like this
Athalia
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
If not try
Saveas
Lucius
Arden
Shemira
Tasi / nemora
That's my next goal but I need to have all heroes on the crystal at lvl 140 first
That's what I heard at least, never bothered to check
any suggestions for a team comp? just pulled a few new heroes
@hasty dawn the five on top work well together from what I’ve seen. If you don’t pull xtra copies of your E heroes by the time everyone is ready for 101, you can reset them for 5 E+ heroes, get everyone to 101, then put the heroes you want to use in the crystal and they’ll be 101 too
Any tips on what I can/should do with my current heroes? (More general, I would like to do my own changes towards certain fights):
I would try swapping hogan and fire girl for Sav and Arden @agile gate
Golus almost 3 shots all of my guys, and I have equipment and everything
Guys, what can I do to get past this stage? Estrilda does so much damage.
All heroes I can offer. =.=“
decent, but i'd replace ferael or raine with saveas. saveas carries incredibly hard till 160
also ferael isn't really too good till 101+
Who shall I use
Should I use my Arden to ascend Nemora and replace Arden with Shemira? 🤔
Tips? I'm giga stucked at 10-22
Stuck here, any ideas ??
Thanks @pale kettle will give it try later. Need to add Arden to resonating crystal to use him. Appreciate the help
Help!
Wow coincidence?
Same bru stacked there
@hollow vortex shem. Try get her L+
not nemora @burnt ravine ? im uncomfortable with her being E
What about me?
@hollow vortex if you use nem often. Then yes go for nem. Good thing is you can always farm more token.
alright. and what do u think is my ideal lineup diz?
@pale kettle Try replace Belinda with silvina
i am running Brutus Shem Nem Arden Tasi mostly
but i keep reading that saveas is incredible at my level. so im wondering how i can include him
@hollow vortex ooh. Yes. Get nemora. And replace shem with saveas.
ouch. replace shem. i was afraid that should be the case lol
Belinda is my best one tbh.. Not sure
@hollow vortexshem only gets good at 161+
@hollow vortex haha good luck. Saveous is definately the right choice at us stage. Shem's time will come 
@pale kettle you can try swap estrilda/fawke for silvania. U need dps in ur team
Any ideas how can I win?
@spring igloo try to replace mara with brutus
Already tried.
@spring igloo did you try fawkes
Yes, I tried Favkes for Nara
@spring igloo you could also try to add nemora
My full team dies before anyone got ult
@haughty cloud Heya ^^
Could you share your formation vs the enemy's too? 😋
Not looking for a team for story, just in general
Brutus and Grezhul will make a fantastic frontline for you
You manage without faction bonus?
Oh well of 10%, yeah.
i mean, i feel like nemora brutus is probably a must
They do perform really well at that phase of the game
@haughty cloud I only use Grez or Shem, if I use both I remove Nem. But that means zero team bonus!
Yeah it's hard to choose my pref heroes+ getting faction bonus
@haughty cloud Just use either Shem or Grez, I got to 20 with no Shem so it's doable. If she's giving you a hard time in front, rely on Lyca dps?
@pale rover Lyca is there basically for the haste tbh
starting to consider: Grez Brutus, Shemira Ferael Nemora
although feral is only E+
Stuck in tower and campaign need help with my lineup. I currently am using the top row
Is it better to have all your champs the same lvel? Or should you pump 2...
I have been trying shem + saveas + either (nemora/seiras./eironn) or (Belinda / raine / hogan) or (khasos / safiya /(hogan or Belinda))
What's Phoenix rain
@patent cliff using Raine's ult, then Mirael's right after
Oh right awesome ty
@haughty cloud They're both RNG. sometimes one will clutch something the other will fail, and once they will fail and do a mistake costing the rest of the match
I would rely on less RNG heroes for Arena since it's just 1 time and that's about it.
Between those 2; Nemora.
Yeah i guess the heal provided by nemora is always something u can rely on
cant think of a better hero to put in there tbh, maybe another graveborn or a mauler for more faction bonus
Tasis banish secures wins tbh
tasi banish is so rng based tho, nemora heal isnt
^ My worst fear is that she'll banish someone, then teleport into enemy lines and get assassined in less than a second
It isn't rng. It traps enemys strongest
yeah but enemy strongest can be during brutus ult, denying damage, and so many things lke that
i cant get passed this, is there anything i can do?
Dunno man, my elite tasi is doing just fine tbh, its fun clearing up the small fries then when enemys strongest is out, theyre outnumbered
Yeah im not denying that tasi is strong, prob top 3 support heroes in the game. But she is more rng based than nemora imo
Ok so once again 9-20 lol are my heroes under levelled or are they ok for this point? Also this stage is a meme 😂
Stuck on 8:20 need help
Would appreciate any advice )))
I'm currently stuck on 7:32 any tips peeps be handy
Can anybody help me? I’m new too the game
Any advice?
i feel like this is my best formation, but what do yall think? currently drape is on shem and call is on tasi but whst call be better on shem
@high iron show enemy line up
@restive tangle focus your best heroes on enemy weakest side. You can take out top side pretty fast
@gilded fractal saveas ?
@high iron Rare+
How should I proceed for ascensions? I'm stuck on 11-20
Morningg guys, stuck at stage 12-32 any suggestions?
Any thoughts
Who are some good counters to use against silvinia? She keeps nuking my nemora and Tasi which kinda ruins my team lol
@junior condor idk the meta but I always use Nara to pull silvina where I want her and it works well
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8-40, anyone got some advice?
Nemora or a khasos could pull me through, but i got neither of them atm.
This lineup + lucius,saevas+lyca+arden+tasi had the best results
Any more possibilities or do i have to wait for more levels? Got some crystal slots free aswell
Any help on how I can get past this? Have been stuck for a while 
What's the best line-up against 1) wrizz and 2) soren?
and sitrtk, have you tried:
saveas
brutus
mirael
Lucius
belinda
?
idk it seems like you should be able to win that one
I'll give that a go now, and yeah I've seen many people further than myself with less powerful setups
@grizzled merlin Hello! ^^
It's a must to have Saveas in both Guild raids.
Lucius will be a good addition for both but sometimes dies too quick to Soren.
Lyca is always a good pick solely because of the haste.
Kaz is a good pick against both but dies to Soren much faster
Warek's armor reduction is really good against Wrizz.
Raine is good against both but dies really quick to Soren with no defensive / heal heroes.
Brutus works really good at both due to his durability, life steal, and defense reduction.
Thoran as a tank is a pretty good pick because of his resurrection, but he won't benefit you all that much.
Hey guys, really struggling on this one. Maybe I’m just underlevelled . I usually have Saveas at 96 and hogan at 81. But Saveas just gets mauled before I can progress. Any thoughts?
lucius dies fast vs soren? 😮 he or saevas is always my last man standing
@lapis roost At level 30 for Soren, he gets completely destroyed for me...
Then again, it depends on his ascension tier.. (Mine is E 😅 )
Also I’ve just unlocked Belinda as an Elite+. My problem is I want to run Tasi, Arden, nemora and Saveas. I have no front line if I run her too. It’s a struggle
why is everything at lvl 1 though
@grizzled merlin Probably removed from Crystal.
his saevas shouldn't be in the crystal in the first place
Hi guys, any advice ?
@grizzled merlin just removed levels whilst I make decisions, got all their xp and stuff sat. Saveas was 96 and hogan 81
lvl up the ones that are ascended most, put the rest in the crystal...
Wow cheers @grizzled merlin, passed it with ease. I must be big noob
yeeey I'm real glad it worked out 😃
That’s not my problem, I have just spent 40 crystals. to remove the levels because I couldn’t figure out what outside of the back three I wanted to run
I wouldnt run a heavily wilder based team there, I'd go for the lightbearers for the bonus against maulers
@celest meadow Dear Adventurer,
Have you unlocked a feature called "The Resonating Crystal"?
@wise merlin I have, why?
and make sure to get faction bonusses too
@celest meadow Please do take your time as to reading this (Specifically the last 2 paragraphs) patiently,
As it will solve most of your issues regarding the current stage you're stuck at! ^^
but then again, I change my team around a whole lot...
I appreciate the advice, but my characters haven’t hit their level caps yet, so I don’t understand how that’ll help.
@sour creek Hello!
I'd like to let you know you're not forgotten!
I'll be sure to ping you again once I'm available to help! 😁
it doesnt , its just future proof I guess. But Idk , I find it hard to give advice when so many are at lvl 1. If you use the crystal you can lvl so many more heroes at once
@wise merlin no problem, thank you !
so its much easier to pick, instead of resetting it every time you wanna change a little thing in the setup?
@celest meadow It will save the cooldown time on the Crystal as you will eventually do it.
Better do it* now and wait the cooldown while you haven't reached the cap, than reach the cap, then wait 24 hours and the precious time you could've saved by doing it earlier on.
this timer thing is VERY annoying btw lol
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8-40, anyone got some advice?
Nemora or a khasos could pull me through, but i got neither of them atm.
This lineup + lucius,saevas+lyca+arden+tasi had the best results
Any more possibilities or do i have to wait for more levels? Got some crystal slots free aswell
@grizzled merlin You could always cheat by editing your previous message 😋
There's no timer for that 😉
oh thanks, that's smart!
@lapis roost, to be fair your lineup seems quite fine to me, you can try changing lucius and estrilda around and see if that gives better results. But I'm kind of afraid you might just need to level them up some more...
But maybe there's a good strat that I'm missing 😉
waiting in an idle game? Noooooooooooooo 😦
Any heroes I should focus on leveling amd which should I use (if you dont pay attention to levels)
This is my main lineup for almost everything. I’ve been playing for about 2 weeks. Any other strats you guys see that I could be missing out on?
@lapis roost Helo, friend. How've you been today? ^^
I would place change the formation to look like so;
Estrilda
Arden / Tasi
Fawkes
Lyca
Tasi / Arden
(Formation depends on who has less defense rating to be targetted by Silvina, the one who has lower - Infront of Estrilda)
Guaranteeing a haste, 3-2 faction bonus providing 15%+ HP and 15%+ ATK
Considering Silvina will be targetting Arden, and later then Stunned by Estrilda's first attack, then she won't be able to dodge your Fawkes' 7 seconds mark, allowing further survivability for the Arden, and Tasi to gain energy for further .
@narrow ivy, you dont hav ethe crystal yet I'm betting? I'd just focus on upgrading 5 heroes and try to look for synergy. So you could upgrade your 2 maulers and 3 wilders for example, it does give you 2 nice frontline heroes (ulmus and brutus) and it gives you the faction bonus
brutus and saveas are both lovely
@wise merlin thanks man, will give it a try in a second
wait, you want me to not field lucius? 😮
Arden on frontline never works for me, but ey, that's me 😉
@grizzled merlin I shouldmt use Vedan and Mirael so that iam able to get the faction synergy?
Need tips,stuck on 14-35
@sour creek Hello! ^^
I would replace Ferael with Isabella, or Saveas, as Ferael not only deals less damage due to no faction advantage, he's also not that powerful early on in the game.
Try to receive some more duplicates of Saveas to ascend him further, he's a precious being!
Jokes aside, he's immensely powerful the more you invest into him! (Specifically 101, 121, and 141.)
Your new formation should look like so;
Isabella / Saveas
Thoran
Belinda
Niru
Shemira
@narrow ivy, personally I feel it's a waste of resources to upgrade more than 5 heroes. So although you have some really nice heroes in your setup, personally I'd just choose 5 that give you a faction bonus. Then get the crystal (at 4-something), and put other great heroes in the crystal...
@lapis roost He's not really useful unless he can pull his ult off before dying.. (Lucius)
like, try to give yourself a setup that can get you through the first stages...
he always gets it off, lucius is like a bro
Help
@wise merlin already tried this, so i guess i'll wait to get highers leveled heroes and ascend saveas, ty !
@lapis roost Then put him instead of Lyca if you feel like the Haste won't be helpful. it's worth the shot though. ^^
@sour creek Okay! I wish you best of luck further on! 
Brutus ends up killing Lucius, my Brutus doesn’t end up killing anyone
why dont you use belinda instead of estrilda
might be worth a try, belinda can do a lot of damage... who knows 😃
@zealous iron try to use wilders like Arden and u don't have a mage its quite waste to not to use mage in your team
Wilders have bad faction advantage against maulers
@zealous iron yes but u can't deny their crowd control is Godlike even maulers can't move cos of that
Sorry im new to discord, came on to ask for help regarding this level
I just got numisu and my current team is saveas khasos athalia skreg vurk do you think numisu is worth swapping for vurk? considering I don't have any intelligence based heroes idk how good he is though but I've never really been a fan of vurk
Kinda stuck here. Am I going to have to ascend a few heroes to get through?
have you tried silvina is place of lyca? she's really good at keeping your frontline alive for longer
- you'll get the graveborn faction bonus
Belinda or raine
who is fawks grabing cause i see a lot of dmg in their back line
@novel flume what's the rest of your team looking like bellinda will do more damage but raine is really good paired with heroes that have aoe ults
Atm it's belinda, raine, hogan, vedan and arden
I think Fawkes is trying to grab Silvina because no one's getting coffined
But my argument for Belinda here is that I think she is better later into the game so it's a better investment
so since you have another intelligence hero I'd say bellinda just because her 121 passive reduces their magic resist
Ahaa , that's cool arden is Legendary too
@novel flume actually id reccomend not using ur lightbearer fodder for any of these heroes
did you try the silvina for lyca thing @regal shoal ? how'd that go
Why?
Not...good. Seems like niru's murdering her too fast
@novel flume it seems tempting to get an easy legendary but if you are not hard stuck belinda nor raine are often used mid game. most of the time rather late game when all your heroes reach ascended tier
@regal shoal hmm have u tried replacing fawks so u get the faction bonus
try putting shemira in the top left and silvina in shemiras place, grezhul should put his shield on silvina to give her a bit more survivability which'll also give shemira more time in the backline to get her ult going
... i still use belinda... she buffs my shemeria
the best lightbearer is lucious which u dont have
How the hell do I beat this?
That will take me 10 million years to pull
@novel flume I mean waiting isn't a bad idea (I haven't made it to late game yet so I can't really say) but it is up to you and just based on those two I would go bellinda, plus by the time you do pull a "better" lightbearer I'm sure you'd be able to get fodder for it considering you'd have to pull it twice
Nope, silving's getting ganged up on by Niru, the bat, and Vedan, and their silvina keeps switching from Nemora to my Shemira right before the ult goes off
alright lets try putting lyca back and arden for fawkes since you said he doesn't seem to be pulling anyone maybe his cc will help shemira stay alive in front
Any advice ?
Still nope. No one's actually dying on their team...
hmm, try playing around with your team then and go for the rng I guess, shemira being legendary will help a lot though her 121 silence will lock down niru for longer since he's a pain in the ass to deal with
@.@
Yeah. By the end it's always a 3v1(nemora) or a 4v1
@regal shoal who dies first on ur team
Arden, obv
my best advice with your current team is to just try to get the faction bonus for wilders since they do more vs graveborn and mess around with the lineup until you get better results
or grezhul? that golus just won't die
I would go wilders, except the draws seem to only give me LB and GB
yea some times moving heros to different spots makes giant changes
if u had nara she would change this a lot
maybe grezhul golus shemira saveas silvina/baden idk how good baden is I haven't really used him but that way you have another frontline for your shemira so she doesn't have to tank and ya the rng is gonna be annoying cause you gotta get it to where the silvina wont ult your shemira
baden is broken but im think its late game...
At what level should I stop ascending characters and be more cautious ? Is it Elite +?
Baden feeds Niru
oh wait, summons don't feed Niru? Lemme try baden again then
I don't think his shadows would feed him
@hasty night try prioritizing leveling your damage heroes more it seems like you don't really have enough damage for them
when ur ascending crystal 5 is filled with elite+ then u should plot ahead a lot more
Oo
resonating crystal
So thoran or ira
read their ability they get at 81 and see which seems more useful for the fight
you have good cc though
Hey all, my lineup are the heroes in the first row
And I'm stuck at 6-36. What should I do?
have u tried taking nemora out and putting safia in? it will give u a faction buff
no, I could try
u could try putting khasos in too for lucius for the higher faction buff if the first change doesnt work
well shit, it worked! Thanks! So faction buffs only occur when there are 3 or more heroes on the battlefield?
if u tap on the top left it will tell u the combos for certain buffs
its that flower thing
damn, good to know
so I'd like some help designing/redesigning my line up
this is what I have for hero's
ur wasting a lil bit of resources on the grezhul
would you guys ascend Saveas or Brutus to legendary first? I'm one Elite+ away. Though it'd feel kinda bad to sacrifice an Elite+ Saveas to upgrade my brutus lol (the lvl 39, not 101)
agreed with khurzy, you're not using a lvl 50 grezul
@fleet nest you should 100% wait until you get extra fodder those are both extremely good but I'd prob say brutus first
Stuck on 11-20 advice?
any other idea's for my line up?
don't sac either for the other imo
oh yeah, that makes more sense, thanks
I'm stuck in stage 6-36 at the moment
@grave storm do you notice any specific weak points in your team? estrilda isn't really the best frontline early so you could try saccing the 5 faction bonus for 4 with a better tank to help your backline stay alive for longer
where would Estrilda better be used in?
I just think she's better replaced by a more durable frontline at that stage I'm pretty sure she does get better later though, unless she seems strong I can't say for sure since I haven't used her much
are there any other light hero's that would be good for the front line that I'm not using then?
https://imgur.com/a/9bK8tWS suggestions for a pve team?
@broken rune @grave storm I read somewhere that shes a really good support tank once she hits lv 160
yea just check on some tier list shes actually decent 160+
ah ok one thing I do know is that I'm trying not to spend too much actual money on the game ( past experiences with pay to win type games has made it troublesome )
2 of the best heros in the game are in the labrynth shop
yeah I'm not really a fan of spending money I just made like 2 other accounts when I got bored lol, idk just try different formations and see how it goes I was stuck there for a few days too on my first account it happens, sometimes you just gotta wait out the afk rewards for levels
Hi everyone ! I’m new to the game, can you please help me to build a line-up ? I don’t know if I should use Shemira or Saveas and who to use with them. Here are my heroes :
just focus on getting shemaria dupes in the shop and eventually ull have an unstopable monster
the hero with the two bladed sword is really annoying with his special ability rendering him immune to damage during that spin attack which gets stronger the lower health he is >__<
@uncut sapphire shemira vedan grezhul nemora ezizh sounds like a good team for faction bonus + his hypogean bonus
yeah brutus is really strong, you need to put your biggest damage dealer as far away from him so they can kill him after his immunity wears off
yeah
yea i was lucky and pulled nara... she fixes that problem
or you could try it the other way around to burst him down then have your second highest dps farther away
usually I manage to get Mirael to use her special and wreck him and some other hero's
@broken rune can you also see my message from before? I need help😣
what stage are you at @proud anvil
@broken rune Thanks ! Should I put Grezhul and Ezhiz front line ?
7-25
yeah @uncut sapphire and then just play around with the backline to see who works best, shemira is gonna carry the team if you can keep her alive
i could go further but i will be stuck at the next boss
Ok thank you 😃
your team seems pretty solid @proud anvil just looks like you gotta be patient with getting the resources to level them, you could try swapping fawkes and bellinda around since you don't have an intelligence based dps on your team or swapping out ulmus for bellinda and put estrilda in the front for the extra faction bonus but other than that it seems good to me
is Angelo any good for a hero?
I don't really like him but then again I've never really used him I just feel like there are better options
if I had him I'd use Lucius
@broken rune ty very much
anytime!
Help! any advice from anyone?
So I’m using the top 5 heroes atm for pretty much everything but I’m wondering since fawkes isn’t doing much for me atm and I can’t upgrade him should I reset him and boost Tasi or Saveas up?
oh thats not a bad idea so you can upgrade more (elite+ instaed of elite)
Also, I see no use for Angelo's existance 😛
Yeah Fawkes is just more for cc
I love fawkes, it has nothing to do with fawkes itself, just that tasi is upgraded more so the crystal gets more effective
So having some big dmg with saveas would help
tasi will give you a better faction bonus and she has good cc. saveas is a really strong dps if you're lacking on damage it just depends what you feel like your team is struggling with also @rigid dragon I can't really say much because I'm not that far into it but I'd just try playing around with faction bonus and RNG sorry man :\
What is my best lineup here? currently trying out eiron ezizh Belinda baden Lyca
I mean yeah I use Fawkes aswell, but he already have 2 that doesn't do any dmg. So some high dps would help
Yeah it’s just when I use Saveas Nemoras heal goes to him instead of one of the frontline which usually leads to enemy getting into beldina or Saveas if I do use him so that’s why I’m debating which one to use
@half idol I'd either try lyca for baden for faction bonus or if you want to keep baden vedan for ulmus and fereal for bellinda ezizh and eiron seem like solid choices based on who you have though
Any advice ??
@rigid dragon replace Baden with Belinda. Baden is not that great apart from guild bosses. And you could use an aura. Also try replacing Arden with Brutus if you have him and see if it helps (3+2 aura)
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Help?
@rigid dragon you should build you team around your main carry which is Saveas. Just make sure he survives as long as possible. While Arden has some great CC, Brutus could be more useful as a meatshield and the 3+2 aura helps a lot.
@rustic stream the thing is, I don't have a brutus. and my team I feel just isnt strong enough
@grave storm Angelo is ass no matter what
@unique hinge my exact team ❤️. Against Brutus and Saveas I would try Lucius if you have him.
@unique hinge I have the same problem. Waiting for 4th Lucius copy and he goes to M+ instantly. Been saving fodder. You also need M gear on him.
I have M gears only on shemira right now
alright
@unique hinge meanwhile try putting Tasi lower to the path of Khasos’s axes (if he doesnt oneshoot her)
She doesn't die in one hit but she can't pull the ult off most of the times , I got a couple times in a 1v1 shemira Brutus , but she loses
@unique hinge too bad you made Bel M. I resisted fortunatelly. You will be stuck here until you make Lucius M/M+ Im afraid
I needed a M Bel for bounties... Lol , Lucius is a long way to Mythic anywya
Shem isn’t strong enough yet
@unique hinge Your Brutus doesnt help there? He will last a bit longer than Lucius. Try putting him in s1 where Saveas fires.
I used her .. always , before 161 she is decent and after 161 she becomes a god ... Try with her in and wear the dura call on her
any ideas?
With Brutus , tasi dies in One hit because the team loses the 10% hp from formation bonus
Could be. I use a E+ Tasi, I know what you mean 🙈
I was thinking to get her Mythic but opted for lyca L
I'm gonna try to reset and put all levels on tasi and leave nemora at 141
Was that a good choice? Your Lyca looks like she is there just for the haste and energy and dies in 2 sec
It was , she gives the formation bonus and the haste is nice when kicks in some levels
Yea but she didnt need to go to L for that. The skills can be obtained in resonating crystal...
Oh I see now. You wanted to kill Lyca to make Tasi M 😳
Going to use her anyway in faction Kings tower
would you rather use a "worse" hero because he is legendary or a "good" hero which is epic only? ive never used lyca/tasi/nemore because they are only epic, not ive swapped them for saveas and belinda (leg+) and they rock shit because my shemira 161 is enough to do dmg, the rest is just supporting her
Ye that was the choice , opted to keep both
Is there any team comp that will help me out or do I just need to level up more? I get destroyed every time no matter who I use. Who should I focus on leveling up to beat this level?
@rustic stream level passed 👌 tasi at 158 did work
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Lyca
Shemira
In my opinion , but I'm not entirely sure
Can any help me?.
Hello! Currently only level40 Account - I usually go for a full faction comp ( 2 Tanks + Backline ) As far as i understand this always gives you the edge against other comp ( if they don't counter your faction ) or am I missing something? My Heroes for reference. Any Help appreciated since I'm stuck on the Campaign haha
Anyone have any ideas?
Hello i'm new on AFKarena and i have big problems with 5-32 I do not know what I'm doing wrong and how can I improve the efficiency of my team ... would anyone be nice enough to give me a moment and help me?
@exotic falcon lucious instead of Hogan and nomu instead of nemora maybe?
OOF i tried resetting shem but i think my hest bet is still her....sighs what do yall suggest
@steady shadow with the current hero’s you’re running about the best lineup. If you could get another graveborn I’d run Shem but currently I don’t mind your set up. Just need to level up
The 5 without exclamation points are my team. I am stuck at 13% in ancient ruins. It feels impossible currently. Time to afk?
I hve issues with 7-8. What should I upgrade next? Is it worth to upgrade Brutus to Legendary?
@steep cape thank you for the advice ... I was thinking about playing 4-1 with Shemira, maybe it will be a success
Who would you sac for Brutus @devout birch
Stuck at 9-20 not sure where to go from here https://imgur.com/a/2LbhcdO
@steady shadow is give it a go for sure
@steep cape those other tank maulers, not sure about the names but you can see them on screen
He'd be sacing Khasos and Warek
@summer trail you NEED to boost your satfiya. You might have luck with sat sav khaos and es lucious. No promises but sat is a must for leveling up
@slate zodiac I wouldn’t then this early on
That what I was thinking too. Probably it will be better to just wait and lvl up other guys
Yeah wait until you get E+ Vurk because him and Warek lose viability
Khasos and Brutus share a union sonif you have them both L+, you get all union buffs
Hello! Currently only level40 Account - I usually go for a full faction comp ( 2 Tanks + Backline ) As far as i understand this always gives you the edge against other comp ( if they don't counter your faction ) or am I missing something? My Heroes for reference. Any Help appreciated since I'm stuck on the Campaign. Amy help regarding what champ i should push as well. Thank you
@steep cape is satfiya that good? never thought about maulers due to no brutus
I think Safiya is fairly rare and I've heard she's around A or S tier in late game. I say she's rare because none of my guild members or friends have her set as a mercenary
S tier all the way through imo. Her buff is insanely good with high dps @slate zodiac @summer trail
Alright, need help. This is 11-20. Come on with the suggestions lol
Is this lineup any good?
@urban island try Lyra , Tasi , Nemora , Brutus and Sav
@steep cape @slate zodiac can i make use of any of these meanwhile thou? or all useless? https://imgur.com/a/fhHpSxO
@runic tundra thanks bro. I'll give it a try
Ayo, thats what im working with rn, should i wait for anything else or upp someone etc xd
@summer trail sat Norma and eirron
@urban island take a look at this
there are many strategy base on each wall type faction.
@runic tundra thanks for info
Any help would be amazing:)
Top 5 is my usual lineup, and I have duras grace on brutus, duras call on Belinda. Who should I put duras eye on?
Help?
@runic tundra nice infografik may I ask where you got that from?
Can anyone help me I’m struggling at this lvl 7-28
is there anyone 12+ that can help me with some team comp info, im kinda hardstuck at 11-16
@restive tangle level athalia ez Shem gretz then use Brutus. Put athalia across from mirael Brutus and gretz front with ez back top. Run Shem bottom
I need some assistance on 9-20
and im running this comp, feels pretty good, i think
Should I ascend Brutus? If so what should be my lineup? No faction boost if I go him..
@timber star
Saveas
Ezizh or Niru
Tasi
Brutus
Khasos
@pale kettle swap position of nemora and ezizh
Without lyca your eion have no time to casst pull
acually, he does pull them like 80% of fights
Since the khasos buff, I’m not even convinced 11-40 is possible. It’s the absolute most butt fuck of a level I’ve ever seen.
One of khasos axes wipes out my whole back line instantly
ugh thats my next boss battle after my current one... hopefully nara can nutralize khaos for me...
is your shemira getting stun locked... cause it might be better to have someone else tank that
I’ve tried every lineup conceivably possible
My back line gets wiped out literally in one khasos axe throw. It’s broken since last update
yea he was causing me trouble earlier nara good at neutralizing him but doesnt look like u have her
@hasty night
Nemora
Lucius
Tasi
Hogan
Ira
Any help on 11-40 guys
@runic mesa tasi should be able to stop him
i think she gets wiped from axe
Tasi dies within the first millisecond of the battle. She barely spawns in
The khasos axe literally takes out my back 3 within the spawning of the battle
dies shemira survive in the back row or she gets one shoted too
@runic mesa do you jave lyca?
Shemira gets one shorted. Everyone who’s not tanky gets one shotted. And nope. Been super unlucky with wilders
@runic mesa try lucius estrilda shemira arden raine
Dont forget to swap gear. If arden dies to quickly put him on top and shemira bottom
This level honestly makes me want to throw my phone. It’s not even close. The axe from khasos does 60k damage a pop instantly
If that doesnt work. Afk and lvl up
Guive can I have your babies
Honor me
lmao yay 10 more heros for u
Got all blues lol. Was trying for Lucius
ggs
is silvana ur main issue
Well yea... and 300k diff... wheen i am lucky only vedan remains
no nara... dang that would of just elimated silvana from fight
Any advice welcome
@burnt knot
It may be spund wird but try a few times
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Tasi
Nemora
Swap brutus for lucius if needed
@violet pecan cheers will give it a try
I tried the suggestion I got earlier but to no avail. Anyone else have an idea? Or should I just AFK and wait for reset to get levels
is ur nemora getting killed before she heals?
@violet pecan got it third time you're magic! thanks
@sharp dirge yes
hell u might just want to put lucious in her spot just so u get the faction buff
Some of these stages exist to make us suffer 😢
not sure if numisu would do better then lucios
Lol help on 12-4? @violet pecan. Silvina main issue
jameh does fawkes get ur further then saveas?
Any help would be appreciated :)
o god full gravborn team withs shemira
14-40 xD
@marsh rain shemira Lucius tasi Arden nemora
Getting ripped apart lol need to level heroes just gotta wait i guess
i mean isabella might be the best target for nemoras charm but ... that back line will shred through almost every tank
Any reason you aren’t using fawkes?
I don't have good equipment on him
Just as a general tip you should be focusing on two sets of gear per type (2 agi, 2str 2int) so you can free up your lineups
I need to improve my lineup a bit cause I’m stuck
Atm using Estrilda and Golus in the front, Vedan and Ardus are in back, and Tasi/Lyca take the final slot depending on whether I want more DPS via haste or more CC
@tough lantern have you tried putting him in even with mediocre gear? The whole point is the 1st turn coffin really
@chilly prism alright I will try that
It immediately turns it into a 4v5,
Run it once to@figure out whi he seals then load up that side with dps to burst down the tank
On a different note; any ideas?
What would be the best team for me
Anyone have any ideas for mine? Just bumping before I’m too buried
Would this group be okay to try the hard arcane lab?
whats ur relics