what i have right now
#lineup-help
worldly lion
cedar citrus
Okay, my main issue has been the fairy gimping my shem and then shem or silvana ko'ing by people
near sundial
@cedar citrus have you tried putting Shemira in the front? She will cast her ultimate faster, and if your rng is good she will soul siphon to stay alive long enough to do that
brittle summit
@near sundial
brittle summit
near sundial
Brutus and tasi.
pale rover
@crisp helm If that's ch 6, read pinned to better understand the campaign.
Brutus Golus
Arden/Tasi Belinda Saveas (get him to E asap) (formation bonus)
@velvet epoch 9-20? Read pinned to better understand the stage. A lot of your heroes need more ascensions as you're starting to deal with enemies that are mythic.
Thoran Grezhul
Tasi Shemira Saveas/Silvina (team bonus) but, really ascensions.
cedar citrus
NosFang for 25% LL or Whisper for 6% bonus atk rating per Graveborn.. I win the stage raine critted her way my victory
near sundial
@brittle summit Brutus/Lucius up front, tasi/Shem/Lyca in the back. You could also try putting Shemira in the front and Lucius directly behind her
fading cipher
Help with 13-24 please
crisp helm
@pale rover pinned?
pale rover
near sundial
Remove Estrada and put Shemira up there, then put Arden in the back @fading cipher
brittle summit
@near sundial for 11-32? Or Kings Tower Floor 141?
near sundial
I think both
It’s just a good combo of cc/dps decent synergy given the hero selection you have
summer pond
15-40 help?
velvet epoch
@near sundial did what u said, saveas damage just doubled but the whole team is paper now... Even harder atm...
cosmic yew
sick creek
I'm trying to build a good team comp for chap 5 and 6, I need to reset brutus still, can anybody help me make one out of what I have?
Been hard stuck on 5 20 all day today
pale kettle
@cosmic yew
Try this lineup
Fawkes
Lucius
Ferael
Ezizh
Tasi
@sick creek
It seems that you are still at very early stage, so while waiting for more heroes, you can try with Brutus, Belinda, Hogan, Raine, Numisu
random verge
Stuck at 9-8, wishing I had Lucius right about now :(
crisp helm
Which should I level up for a Wilder team
pale kettle
@crisp helm Nemora Tasi Kaz Brutus Belinda
sick creek
@pale kettle thanks I'll try it
pale rover
@cosmic yew Do Mauler/Graveborn or Mauler/Gb front while the back can be trio Wilders.
@sick creek
5-6 is Mauler-centric.
Hogan Brutus
Belinda, Raine/Estrilda/Tasi (pick 2 of these)
pale kettle
@random verge
Vedan can be a tank too, perhaps move Lyca to the back and let him take her place
sick creek
So far whenever I use estrilda she usually just dies in 2 hits, :(. I'll try yours and what Shaun suggested using resonance, thank you @pale rover
random verge
Who should I drop from the back? @pale kettle
pale rover
@sick creek Estrilda at the back, not front. Early on she's like paper.
pale kettle
@random verge Try this
Nemora
Hogan
Mirael
Vedan
Lyca
random verge
Alright I'll give it a go, thanks
grizzled grotto
who is good against saveas? the boss from 10-4 is just wrecking my entire team
sick creek
@pale rover I still have some exp to distribute but this is what's giving me nightmares lol
pale kettle
Try Brutus Hogan switch place
Backline Raine, Numisu, Belinda
pale rover
@random verge
Ogi Golus
Arden/Tasi Lyca Vurk (build up Saveas) for team faction bonus
If those units aren't ascended enough:
Hogan Golus
Mirael Fawkes Vedan (minimum team bonus)
pale kettle
Golus is a very good tank
pale rover
@sick creek Tasi, not Numisu. Make her banish Brutus/Saveas. Raine works with Belinda but you can also put Estrilda in her place at the back. You'll need to gear them up and level for this to work efficiently.
limber copper
110 tower stuck, i think im just too low
sick creek
@pale rover like this? Ty for your help
pale rover
@sick creek If that doesn't work then it's just levels, good luck!
pale kettle
All the best!~ ❤
blazing summit
Looking for feedback/help on my current lineup, (Top row) and if anyone can see any immediate changes i could make for the better?
pale kettle
@blazing summit Looks like the 1st 5 are already a good lineup for early game
blazing summit
aight thanks
sick creek
@pale rover @pale kettle first try.. how do you geniuses do it?
pale rover
@limber copper Ascensions matter greatly. Lineup is okay but those Khasos will shred your team while those Brutus will keep them safe. You'll need more ascensions especially on the tanks, levels won't hurt either.
pale kettle
I totally don't remember how I passed that stage
pale rover
@sick creek Experience. I've been playing a while and making lineups for 2-3 months. Congratulations!
@blazing summit Your team is fine, good choices. Level Saveas up as much as possible, then Lucius/Brutus, then the rest.
pale kettle
Does it work though? @sick creek If it works then good 😄
crisp helm
Seirus or Brutus on Wilder team?
pale rover
@crisp helm Either is fine depending on who you're up against. Seirus isn't used a lot though, Brutus is usually more favored.
arctic cradle
Need help! Any ideas?
crisp helm
@pale rover so a 5 Wilder team isn't really used
pale rover
Before asking for #lineup-help, please read the pinned posts in this channel. If you are still 100 percent sure your question isn't answered, then place
in one post: one SS of your stage AND one SS of your team.
Please be patient, we are doing this out of good will and gain nothing. If you post in the correct format, you will get answers faster.
solar plover
Any ideas
random verge
Ok so this team got me from 9-8 to 9-16 but now they are getting wrecked lol
slate zodiac
Got me all the way to 6-28 and floor 76 and now idk what to do
sick creek
@pale kettle it worked like a charm. Only reason I got stuck again is the level gap is huge. Time to wait. Thank you again ^^
sullen mauve
Hi guys i need help! Whats the best formation for this with these heroes
slate zodiac
@sullen mauve Putting Mirael in back center allows her to hit almost everyone with her flame burst
sick creek
In my opinion swap mirael and silvania and Hogan into the front. Take it with a grain of salt though
sullen mauve
Hi guys i tried ur suggestions already but still didnt work
junior parrot
sullen mauve
I have max equipments for my heroes x.x
junior parrot
need help stuck for 1 week
brittle summit
@near sundial tried the setup out, but my heroes get taken out too quickly.
strong basin
in case anyone needs it. it's what I used for 9-20
karmic elk
Any advice?, seem unbeatable
latent walrus
ahve you tried stacking only graveborn for the buff? and just keep trying until shemira gets her ult off
sleek salmon
maiden vector
I don’t have 2 of those sadly, but thank you
karmic elk
@manic salmon i dont have fawkes?, any alternative for him?
candid surge
@slate zodiac Lvl up some more, your characters have plenty of room to grow. Solid team too
slate zodiac
I just need to wait then because I don't have near enough hero exp
candid surge
Saveas and Arden are really good heroes to use. I would focus on then first because they're the easiest to ascend
manic salmon
@karmic elk Fawkes is CC. You could use Nemora/Arden but the problem there is that Silvina destroys clothies - hence why Fawkes is more useful In this fight.
Of those two, Nemora is more tanky and will help heal. Her CC isnt as good as Arden's but I'd imagine Arden would just die too fast.
Make sure your clothie armor is upgraded as much as possible!
@manic salmon I dont remember what artifacts you have at that point but Eye should be on Saveas and Horn on Lucius if you have it.
If you dont have Dura's Horn you also may try Dura's Eye on Lucius with his helmet upgraded for more crit chance - that way he will ult faster.
minor wedge
I dont even last 20 seconds in this fight. Silvina almost 1 shots the first person she hits and makes quick work of my team. Fawkes is almost useless because he grabs the hypogean(?) Mage and ignores the real threats. Do I just need to level?
open mural
@minor wedge try using tasi as bait for Belinda and swap tasi for fawkes
minor wedge
Ok cool, that goes the way I was leaning. I just wasnt sure if it would make sense to put her in if shes just going to insta die. Thanks @open mural
open mural
Better have her die than Belinda ya feel
open mural
@pure raft don't put saveas in front, and kill niru first then ira, use arden if you can to root ira and niru
pure raft
The only problem is that my Saveus tanks better than Lucius or Ezizh @open mural
open mural
Yeah but having him survive even a few more seconds in the back allows him to output more damage on niru
obtuse basalt
inland kite
obtuse basalt
Well that was bad timing for me, posting my hero choices to work on a lineup and immediately getting it buried by 4 images...
inland kite
People will scroll up and see these things, I just know if I post one or two, more would be asked
open mural
@obtuse basalt firstly keep your highest ascension heroes as your main 5 to level so you can push everyone past level barriers.
Secondly I would try either lyca in place of hogan just for the haste, that's what I do
inland kite
See, yours is easier to answer than mine lol
open mural
@inland kite any tears?
obtuse basalt
Well Hogan is legendary... so maybe I should swap the other frontline tank to keep his higher stats around. I’ll try it and see what happens
open mural
@obtuse basalt try both and do the better one, also keeping vedan maxed as far as he can go before leveling the rest of your team is better than having him near even
obtuse basalt
I’ve ended up keeping him much higher but the cost of each level is getting insane and I’m not far enough where the passive farming earns enough to keep up. Atm I need to farm for something like 5 hours a level
open mural
Yeah I'm farming for like 6 or 7 for 1 level atm
obtuse basalt
So I figure it’s better to level my frontline a bit to help keep Vedan alive, getting multiple levels each 8 hours, rather than bump his attack up a few points
The CC units can stay low though, they’re just there to stall
urban trellis
Stuck on 11-36, any help?
pale kettle
Try this @urban trellis :
Front: Thoran, Brutus
Back: Saveas, Nemora, Arden
Stuck on this badass Stage for 2 weeks now 😬
Please send help, im about to lose my will to live
ember nebula
Who to ascend?? D:
latent robin
Any ideas on who to switch out?
ancient nest
I’ve tried a lot but nothing seems to work what should I use
tepid stirrup
@ancient nest have Eironn use vortex to pull the bottom 2 heroes in, with the faction boost it should be easy
ancient nest
@tepid stirrup so like this?
tepid stirrup
I would think that will allow your bottom tank to work as well! Try it out
clever bison
open mural
@clever bison try running Kaz or lyca front 3 Wilders back. If you use Kaz run lyca nemora and tasi/arden backline. Otherwise reset everyone to 161 or 160 and get shem up to level 200
willow moon
Here's my current hero list. Could ascend Hogan up to L+, and have a few underleveled legendary heroes. Any recommendations on the optimal team composition and who's worth leveling?
pale kettle
@willow moon. Lucius raine and estrilda for lb and nemora and tasi when you get her but use isa till then
Isabella
brisk pike
don't rush building up Ls or you'll end up with limited heroes to use
willow moon
So Hogan isn't worth? I believe I could get him to Elite+ if I'm not mistaken
Also @pale kettle sorry what's lb?
pale kettle
True here is mine
Isabella is a e+ now and so is raine
Lightbearer and hogan is good but you need one more lightbearer r+ to e+ hogan
@willow moon once lucius is so much better than hogan and nemora is best healer in game i wpuld build around those two units and test out different heroes just focus on nemora and lucius as your high levels. Also savaes is the best early game unit he can carry teams by himself i would advise building him asap then you can play with rodom teams to suit your playstyle :)
Random teams*
quaint spruce
open mural
Mythic shem and brut stuck in chapter 9?
pale kettle
@open mural. Is that 9-20
quaint spruce
9-40
Last stage of cp 9
pale kettle
I literally got stuck around there and i was told to reset everyone and get savaes to l+ lvl 160 and he carried me to 11-28
open mural
your sav is L+ you should max him to carry @quaint spruce
pale kettle
Mine is l+160 @open mural i dont even have any mythics yet i never get the e pulls if i get them they usually just l+ tier which is annoying
foggy egret
Is a fucking week not enough for this lvl? Been stuck here since 1 and a half week... pls help me pls.... i started when i was lvl 48 now im 62 same stage
willow moon
@pale kettle If I spend 4800 lab coins on another Golus, I could get my Saveas to Legendary. Is that worth, or should I save the lab coins for Shemira or Seirus (I've heard both are good)
foggy egret
Shem
willow moon
Sorry for the late reply I had to take care of the kittens lol
foggy egret
Hogans trash
inland kite
@open mural im sorry! yes i do have one tear thats it
pale kettle
I would get savaes to L. You could always pull a shem. But she docent survive unless she is 161
open mural
oh yeah then you might just have to tear is after trying to fight it once
inland kite
would it be better if i just stockpile tears over the next few days and then attempt it?
open mural
you could always wait for your heroes to get stronger yeah @inland kite
inland kite
i have horrible luck with lab, like really bad luck, even if i win this fight, i might not win next few before even wrizz , but they arent going to get stronger unless i get lucky, about 2 months now and no good ascensions .-.
i cant even pass 12-12 cause of ascensions and nothings going for me, its green or verans
pale kettle
@inland kite i feel ya all purple pulls i get are l+ tiered
inland kite
i dont get purple pulls on my main account, only alt
pale kettle
Me too put im like every server is an alt xD
open mural
@inland kite don't do wrizz unless you have good relics. And don't do hard mode unless you can fight wrizz and win
inland kite
i did have good relics, thats why i went for it, according to someone i did..
open mural
which ones did you have? like legendary
inland kite
They said cause of eagle
willow moon
@pale kettle Alright so Lucius and Nemora for sure.. Between Raine, Isabella, Estrilda, and Saveas, who gets the boot? Last question 😅
pale kettle
Saveas over isabella until you can get her to l+ but use savaes for the time being
open mural
who said? lmao eagle isn't great against wrizz
willow moon
Oof, I lied, one more. Numisu is also a Mauler and would synergize well with my team, right? Especially combined with Saveas?
inland kite
dude idk i had been posting all day and thats the only answer i really got
just told to immediately go to lineup afterwards
willow moon
Yeah I've got some conflicting answers as well @inland kite i feel you
open mural
ah yeah tbh if you can't finish the lab better to just quit and retry the next one @inland kite wait for good relics then retry wrizz
inland kite
im either not answered or told to go to a different channel with no answers ... ive been asking what relics are good and no answer either, i do Not know
sorry im just slightly frustrated by lack of answers for real
open mural
thunderburst, unmounted heart, poison on hit, and blessed hammer are all good. Gonna have to wait for next patch to see how they get changed with wrizz
inland kite
so what about any of the minor ones
open mural
no those are for the other lab fights that aren't wrizz. Also dark wagon isn't worth it in the hard mode lab
inland kite
if i had to pick, what would i pick, anything to do with attack or faction bonus?
willow moon
@pale kettle sorry, last tag, Numisu is also a Mauler and would synergize well with my team, right? Especially combined with Saveas? Why do you keep Estrilda on the lineup, I hear she's not good from others?
open mural
anything that you can use to clear the lab, but if one of those 4 come up choose them. Atk rating is good, but depending on your team the faction ones can be better. like 6% atk per Graveborn is 30% on a full GB team
inland kite
alright so i keep going for lightbearer then.. most of my team is lightbearer with tasi and saveas
open mural
yeah so go for those ones that benefit your team
fierce kayak
I should start to build and ascend my Wilders CC right?
pale kettle
Estrilda is good as a backline mid especially behind two frontline tanks but i dont normally use her
open mural
@fierce kayak yes for sure, get nem up first and then lyca or tasi. Also use arden at 141 in place of tasi for your team
next osprey
Should I feed Isabella to make Shemira mythic?
open mural
no lol
willow moon
Soo.. No on the Numisu?
next osprey
I’ve tried to make Isabella work but I can’t
open mural
@next osprey you're close to an L+ Vedan to get her up to Mythic. Isabella is good late game, better than shem even
solid wadi
Do I do it? I also have a 120 elite+ hogan
willow moon
That's worth imo
fierce kayak
@open mural Ya tks. Actually just wanna ask about the ascend matter. The line-up I always play around.. lol..
solid wadi
Alright I'll do it
bitter hamlet
Any idea for 15-40 ?
open mural
@bitter hamlet run shem brut wilder trifecta, lyca, arden/tasi, nemora if nem doesn't charm fer in the middle just restart
burnt dust
Are my heroes just too low level? Cause i struggle really hard on this stage. Brutus just melts my frontline
whole bobcat
try to place athalia in front of brutus, so that she can interrupt him for a few seconds. also you can try to swap vedan/isabella with lyca to get more haste for shemira
scarlet kraken
@burnt dust put lucius infront of brutus not athalia imo. Swap athalia and Isabella positions. If that doesn’t work try swapping athalia for hogan
tired agate
@fringe warren maybe erionn 2 and belinda 5
burnt dust
Still doesnt work for me
fringe warren
Im just getting absolutely destroyed. I Think I Need to ascend and level up badly
spice dock
I did it with arden/tasi/fawkes constantly pulling him out of the fight @burnt dust
whole bobcat
CC is the key to victory
burnt dust
I think i need to ascend thou, im meeting a lot of legends and elite pluses
spice dock
i used those 3, thane and lucius at level 61~
fallow drum
Any suggestions for line up?
wicked lily
Anyone got an idea?
viscid hazel
@wicked lily
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Shemira
Lyca
If you need more cc put Fawkes for lyca
wicked lily
@viscid hazel still get stomped but thanks 😂
green adder
still oar
Make your vedan as your carry be focusing your level on him.you are too low for team building at your level or above I can remember I use 73 Thane and 41 lyca until I got stopped at 4 8 or something @green adder.
You can use
Luc
Warek
Vedan
Grezhul
Mirael
For the moment
Don't reset Mira just use her as fodder to get the resources back
lusty totem
Need help with team!! who the focus on
solemn cloud
Any ideas ??
still oar
Saveas @lusty totem
weak fiber
Heyo any tips with 11-20
still oar
Try Arden instead of shemira. 81 Arden will roots 2 if I remember it correctly. How did the battle go?. If flanking from top you cantry kill Brutus asap with saveas while Arden and other cc hold the other flank before he ult might help inst @solemn cloud
Try flanking with saveas while Brutus tanks golus. If you have nemora try
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Saveas
Might need several trying. If not swap Arden and saveas' position @weak fiber
upper kernel
Any tips on what to focus on?
Could make a Legendary our of Hogan/estrilda/Raine
They are all elite+
still oar
No you can't don't use ascendeds as fodders unless you know what are you doing @upper kernel
fallow drum
Any tips? Stuck at this stage
still oar
Might be your levels aretoo low. I am not sure. Might want to pick saveas out or charm him from backline. Can't really do line up rn tbh. I missed someone that already posted their heroes. Thought only posted his stage. So maybe
azure kite
I could use some help deciding what heroes to upgrade. I can buy one more hero from the Lab shop. I was thinking on trying to stick to one per faction plus one of any faction.
viscid hazel
@fallow drum
Arden
Shemira
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Maybe try Athalia or khasos for Nemora
fallow drum
Thanks all, will try it out
viscid hazel
@azure kite a good all around comp is Tasi Nemora Arden lyca Brutus shemira Lucius
@azure kite since u are pretty early (120s) Saveas is great on this lvl range
still oar
Good plan @azure kite. You already have nemora try to get shemira to l+ and follow with nemora l+
twilit spoke
azure kite
Yeah Nemora will be a very long term project i think. Serius is so much closer to legendary plus. Just as a baseline should i just use rare heroes to upgrade or can i use some of the natural elites to upgrade as well?
twilit spoke
Any advice would be appreciated:)
still oar
By elita you ascended @azure kite? Don't use ascendeds as fodder unless you familiar with them and know what are you doing. And for legendary at least spare l+ saveas and Arden
vast parcel
Hard stuck on 13-12,and I don’t own shemira,who seems to be a hard requirement at high stages
azure kite
ok thx
still oar
@twilit spoke
Nemora
Luc
Tasi
Lyca
Saveas
Call on tasi, eye on saveas and grace on whomever you need to survive
Not really @vast parcel. Thane also good kaz, but yeah shemira I sthe easiest to build. She is the heroes who bridges you to late game
twilit spoke
@still oar I will try that, thank you!
trim moat
A good lineup with these heroes / any changes / replacements ( I already tried to swap saveas with Fawkes & Arden cc)
vast parcel
sadly i cant take screenshots of my people because of discords fucked up 8mb ss limitation...my ss seem to be a lot bigger
still oar
Crop it @vast parcel. Or lower your SS quality
vast parcel
That’s what I can offer. Already tried several combinations and placements
Tasi arden lyca Brutus and saveas for instance get rekt
still oar
Maybe @trim moat
Saveas
Bait like Arden or lower level mage
Khasos
Luc
Belinda or fawkes. Not sure
Put grace on saveas and make him higher maybe try sword on luke
Can you make your saveas higher give him grace and use khasos and fawkes instead aof Belinda and estrilda @vast parcel
It seems the leech from khasos make brutus golus and saveas unkillable
vast parcel
Saveas is only 9lvl left to maximum. Belinda also is the only reason my lucien survives long enough to cast the shield,since she draws all the attention
And yeah,that high level Brutus as enemy is always nearly impossible to kill. Sometimes he alone takes out my whole teams
azure kite
I honestly thought getting my team to 120 would solve this level for me. but i just can't get passed it. any ideas?
vast parcel
Sorry not Belinda,I meant estrilda
still oar
Can you give call to him? Fawkes should buy time for you and you can manual his ult to counter saveas and golus buffs also Brutus immunity
9 20 @azure kite?
azure kite
yes
still oar
You can check pinned message for 9 20
The key is to focus. I think I passed that with my 140 l shemira+call on my alt
viscid hazel
@azure kite easy
Lyca
Shemira
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
- U can swap Nemora for Saveas if it doesn’t work
- And maybe switch Nemora and Arden placement
Give it few tries Arden roots are rng pray to that rngesus
azure kite
yeah my damage output is just not there. gues i will have to wait a bit longer
random verge
I've tried this a few times and even swapped vedan out for Lyca and they still win with 3 left, any ideas?
shut marsh
Is it time to reset saveas and make shemira my main dps?
still oar
Not yet @shut marsh. 161 is the key for shemira
shut marsh
Okey thanks.
viscid hazel
Im currently running Standard wilders + shemira Brutus 160 and Shem 180 do I level shemira to 181 or Brutus to 161?
white pier
Any ideas how i can kill this?
grizzled lodge
Any ideas?
wise merlin
@grizzled lodge Place Brutus in place of Estrilda, and Estrilda in place of Hogan.
New formation should look like so;
Khasos
Estrilda
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas
grizzled lodge
Thanks bro
wise merlin
Welcome 😇 I hope it helped!
grizzled lodge
yes, it helped :)
maiden cliff
Hi guys, can anyone help? Currently at the end of chapter 7, I'm not sure who to ascend and what my lineup should be after
wise merlin
@maiden cliff Hello! ^^
Could you also send your formation vs the enemy to calculate the might difference, and durability of each hero you currently have?
Also to tell the ascension difference, to see if indeed an ascension is required to continue. ^^
Thank you for your cooperation 
indigo jolt
Still stuck, no luck with pulling rare copies either. Suggestions? Or keep waiting for more levels?
wise merlin
@indigo jolt Getting Arden to level 121 is pretty urgent for you!
I'd prioritize that as it increases his ability break, granting more might and possibly surviving a little longer to root Ankhira, Vedan, or Niru in the run will benefit you enough.
Place Skreg up against Golus for the more cc, let brutus deal with Vedan and Ankhira if she comes topside
still oar
Sav
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Try @indigo jolt
maiden cliff
@wise merlin sure! Attached
wise merlin
@maiden cliff You don't need further ascending. ^^
Place Shemira instead of Mirael, as she does bonus damage to LB faction (Faction advantage will be your carry in this one)
And Arden instead of Saveas if he doesn't do the work he's supposed to (Since Saveas has a faction disadvantage over Lightbearers - they deal more damage to him, and his sustain isn't that good at that level)
scenic knoll
What to do?
willow kelp
no saveas GG
maiden cliff
Thanks @wise merlin - when I hit a wall should I ascend or wait for better options?
indigo jolt
@wise merlin Reluctant to use essence on an ult upgrade when he never survives that longto use. Brutus has to be bottom as Ankhira always goes down in each setup i tried.
@still oar Tried a few times again, similar problem as when i was lower, even if i kill vedan sav is then quickly 1 v 4 and dies inside web or stomp.
still oar
Well your problem is mainly level and power gap. Without leveling how do you expect survivability
wise merlin
^
indigo jolt
Ok, what level do you reckon is necessary then already gone up from 104 to 120 on everyone other than sav.
wise merlin
@maiden cliff It depends on the enemy's faction, level cap, and abilities.
If they have too much crowd control, all you need is for RNG to be on your side.
If they are level 121, per se, and you are level 120, you definitely need an ascension and level up if you've yet to reach L tier. (The difference between 120 and 121 is massive 😅 )
maiden cliff
Thanks again @wise merlin, I'll hold off for now then and may come back when I hit the next wall 😁
fading rain
should i keep leveling serius and numisu till 101 then get the others to 81 or should i get the other to 81 then serius and numisu to 101?
viscid hazel
@fading rain neither nor please don’t overlevel tank and support. I’d recommend DAmage dealer 10-15 lvls higher than tank and support.
I’d say
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
If silvina goes on Arden
@scenic knoll
trail gulch
@wise merlin check it out! 11-8 ;) kind of walled here though any ideas?
viscid hazel
@trail gulch where your wilders at?
upper kernel
Quick question
Which hero should I focus on?
fading rain
@viscid hazel but if i do so the tanks die really fast :0
trail gulch
@viscid hazel I don't have any l
fervent coyote
no shem before 161, use sav
put nemora opposite sav to charm him
grizzled lodge
Any ideas? i need help, again
wise merlin
@trail gulch Hello friend! 😁 How've you been today? 😋
As for your formation, I would swap out Nemora for Tasi in this one, her ult is quite necessary in a lineup like this, take Thoran out and put Tasi in if you're questioning as to who you should take out of the Crystal. ^^
Your future formastion should look like so:
Lucius / Saveas
Thane
Tasi
Saveas / Shemira
Athalia
If Lucius doesn't survive enough to use his ult, it'd be preferred to not use him at all and try the 2nd offered formation. ^^
I wish you best of luck!
edgy seal
Any advice for 9-32? Thanks!
trail gulch
@wise merlin happy Friday! In a meeting now, but ready for the weekend I'll try some changes when we get out of this!
wise merlin
@ember nebula #classic-questions ^^
ivory fable
This is not boss level and so fucking hard
restive tangle
Does anyone have a good lineup. To me
fading gull
@restive tangle Skreg Brtuus balinda Athalia and raine
viscid hazel
@ivory fable with shemira whole chap 14 boss fights are easy but grezhul fights are hard. I’m sorry but if u don’t have Brutus there’s no other frontliner to tank like shemira does. U need to lvl ur Lucius I guess
tranquil mirage
Nope, I know nothing about this
scenic knoll
@viscid hazel how do I keep Silvi off of arden?
grizzled lodge
Any ideas?
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll u dont u sacrifice him and let silvina attack Brutus afterwards
scenic knoll
@viscid hazel so shem should get it done? Should I shield hey?
viscid hazel
@grizzled lodge would u be as kind to post a screen of your heroes otherwise it’s hard to make an educated suggestion
scenic knoll
Her*
tranquil mirage
"Educated"
grizzled lodge
um, sorry
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll I like using the shield artifact on shemira
grizzled lodge
fading gull
Can I get some help with who to invest in from here on out I’m split between lightbearers maulers and graveborn heroes so far.
viscid hazel
Saveas
Brutus
Numisu
Khasos
Silvina
@grizzled lodge
grizzled lodge
ok, thanks
scenic knoll
Ty I hated that one lol
viscid hazel
@fading gull it all depends on your heroes all factions have s tier heroes
fading gull
Saveaus luscious raine besides shemira are epic+ and I’m wondering about who I should invest in the lightbearers side maulers or try for shemira again.
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll yw brother
dark tundra
For lb Lucius for gb shemira for wilders lyca for maulers brutus
fading gull
Pay no attention to that
grizzled lodge
It doesn't work :(
dark tundra
@grizzled lodgewhat chap is that
grizzled lodge
6-35
dark tundra
@grizzled lodge try a full lb on that so u get an advantage bonus
viscid hazel
@fading gull Thoran is not that great going into later stages; Belinda imo (really not a fan of her) is like other mages, every mage that’s not shemira is not shemira; Lucius is awesome best lightbearer imo; Saveas is a great carry till 170; Brutus always a beast with immunity; keep in mind that going into later stages wilders backline with Tasi Nemora Arden and lyca, depending on stage kinda is the best.
Please note that this is my personal opinion tho
severe current
Hello guys, what lineup is the best to have of my heroes? Here is my heroes https://imgur.com/a/voqbwXy thank you for help! 😃
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll FYI it’s possible to stun silvina with Lucius for example before she jumps on mage if u put him in front of her
grizzled lodge
@dark tundra what means lb?
lusty nimbus
@grizzled lodge swap Silvina to Belinda and put her middle Back line
dark tundra
@grizzled lodgelightbearer heroes. As I remembered I have a full lb units on early stage. They're good on early tbh
fading gull
@viscid hazel what is your investment after this point cause everyone is stone locked into the 120 lvl catagory Saveaus is JUST about to break through the barrier and I only RECENTLY got Brutus and he tanks WORSE than my luscious and he’s dieing just before his ult every time
lusty nimbus
@fading gull swap shemira to saveas and get him 121
fading gull
Again EVERYONE besides Thoran AND Balinda CANT become 121!
grizzled lodge
@dark tundra Ok, I will try
daring atlas
Hey! Did someone over there managed to get through the la Peak of Time (Burning Woods)? The boss are way too stong, I can't find a way to beat them... Did someone that managed to defeat the boss could send me the line-up they used?
lusty nimbus
Saveas is better before 141
near mist
@severe current first things first, reset those elites like saveas, Estri and shemira
Next give the xp to e+ hero such as vedan, arden, and hogan
Why? So everyone can to 101+
You can play Hogan, estri/gollus, saveas, numisu, belinda/shem/mirael/tasi
willow kelp
@fading gull is this 9-20 
ivory fable
@daring atlas get poisonus embrance or blessed hammer and you easyl defeat kane
fading gull
@willow kelp mhmmmm hehe
willow kelp
well quickly lvl up 140 specially saveass and belinda
viscid hazel
@fading gull I Know that, 120 is a huge wall in the game; keep playin and look for decent draws. Before ascending please have a look at https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
ivory fable
Sorry my bad i stwitched with rancid forest @daring atlas
fading gull
Again people I CANNOT get SAVEAUS to 121 he’s only epic+ not legendary
daring atlas
@ivory fable I have the poisonous one, but even with it, the best that I managed to do is kill Sylvina and mid life of Ezizh...
viscid hazel
@fading gull yet you can’t make other heroes legendary so there’s no other way than waiting for some more draws I’m sorry for u
fading gull
@viscid hazel as I thought its just time to let rng do its course
dim nymph
Which hero should be lvled to 81 first? Lucius gets AOE heal, arden gets to root 2 people which looks pretty nice.
ivory fable
@daring atlas try to get blessed hammer... If you can
viscid hazel
@dim nymph is say Saveas then Lucius
fading gull
But one last question WHO do I focus from here on out wilders maulers or lightbearers
dark tundra
Hey it's 16-12 close to dropping mythic but I can't seem to beat them. Any line up for this? Or should I just wait for xp heroes? Thanks
willow kelp
without saveas 140 9-20 is very hard
daring atlas
@ivory fable it's a legendary gear, isn't it? Because if it's the case I CAN'T LUL (only epic enemies)
fading gull
@willow kelp when I can get him to 140 what is my team going to be around him?
willow kelp
saveass lucius belinda raine brutus or any tank
fading gull
I’m literally so close to getting him legendary
dim nymph
@viscid hazel is thoran any good? K
Just pulled him, but don't know if he fits in my team (Lucius, Nemora, vedan, saveas, arden)
ivory fable
@daring atlas yea its legendary relic
fading gull
@willow kelp thank you very much
lusty nimbus
Id say swap raine to tasi after saveas 140
wise merlin
@dark tundra Hello friend, have you received an answer yet? If not, do ping me back! 😊
viscid hazel
@fading gull I’d suggest Maulers and wilders, and buy shemira from lab store, please don’t use ferael as fodder tho
daring atlas
@ivory fable ok, so I'm fucked up lul haha, can't do more :(
fading gull
@viscid hazel don’t intend to and yes I know about the legendary shemira
daring atlas
Never use a mythic to ascend anyway ^^
severe current
Please help me. Which lineup should i go for? https://imgur.com/a/voqbwXy
willow kelp
y do u use 120 shemira 
she even do nothing for the team @fading gull
dark tundra
@wise merlin nope really can u help me for this? Thanks
fleet kernel
Ugh should I wait for this one too....? I have been told to wait 2 times already
fading gull
@willow kelp faction bonus that is it
daring atlas
@severe current it's unanswerable! It depend for which game mode, there are no perfect team for every mode
dark tundra
@wise merlin btw what do u mean? Why chapter r on now?
fading gull
@fleet kernel yep wait
daring atlas
@fleet kernel never use a myth hero to ascend. Always use native blue
fading gull
That’s the copy you need for legendary+
daring atlas
And myht
And 1 star, 2 star...
wise merlin
@dark tundra Of course ^^
I would swap Estrilda out for Brutus, and if that still doesn't work, maybe swapping Shemira and Brutus' places in the frontline would help. ^^
@dark tundra I'm pretty well behind you, but I can tell that a level 161 Brutus will do better than Estrilda. solely depending on his immunity and life leech
daring atlas
+1 @wise merlin, brutus is way better than Estrilda
fading gull
@willow kelp that is the reason
severe current
@daring atlas okey, i did not knew that but thank you
daring atlas
(I don't like Estrilda x))
viscid hazel
@dim nymph i think he is good early game with power spike at 121 (fears enemys when ressurceted) but later game i dont think hes that great brutus lucius and grezhul are better choices 160+ imo
leaden olive
daring atlas
@severe current it's really important to save up the native mythic ^^
lusty nimbus
Estrilda is fine bl
scenic knoll
@viscid hazel any thoughts?
dark tundra
@wise merlin yeah I think I'll do that but in chap16 is must to have 181 shemira? Or I can passed it with all 161+ heroes
daring atlas
@lusty nimbus every heroes are great and useful (tier list are the most useless thing in this game). Everything is about the way you use them
ivory fable
Dreaf is the best
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
Brutus
Shemira
option 1. swith arden and shemira
option 2. switch brutus with shemira then brutus with arden
wise merlin
@dark tundra Level 181 Shemira ability buff is nice and all but it's not as good as all heroes at level 161+.. Prioritize your levelling like this;
Khasos to 167, Shemira to 177, Estrilda to 167, Nemora to 167, Lyca to 167.
fading gull
Anyways I’ll be back again after a few days of growth
ivory tide
Hogan or Lucius for front line?
ivory fable
Lucius...
viscid hazel
@ivory tide lucius 99/100 times
daring atlas
@wise merlin @dark tundra putting every ressources on Shemira is not the dumbest thing of the game, as far as she is the best solo carry in the game. Leveling up at a high level is really really interesting and will make you progress way more faster (mine is 220, 2 stars, she's doing pretty much everything in every modes haha)
wise merlin
@daring atlas Wrong.
Ferael, once reaching level 221 is far better than Shemira. with the highest attack rating available in the game.
He literally outperforms everyone ^
daring atlas
@ivory tide depend of the rest of your team, generally, Lucius is way better as a third tank / support, but can do the job too in front. Hogan is bad.
@wise merlin you're right, Ferael is insanely strong, but I still think that Shemira is better in solo carry because she can self heal like a dumb haha
viscid hazel
Ferael 181 and 221 is super Huge sadly his power spike is so damn late
wise merlin
I agree. ^^
dark tundra
@daring atlas omg really ferael I almost fodder him to Shem. But gonna save him now. But I'll try doing your suggestion @wise merlin cos of lack of resources at the moment.
daring atlas
@wise merlin but yes, Ferael is insane (but I personally don't have it lul)
wise merlin
@dark tundra I'm glad you haven't!
daring atlas
Haha @dark tundra, yes keep it, really stong :)
ivory fable
I used ferael as fodder for vedan long ago
dark tundra
Thanks guys hope I passed 16-12 now and I will peacefully afk for a while if I passed this one btw how about Isabella? Any thoughts for her?
viscid hazel
@ivory fable 
ivory fable
And warek for saveas im dumb guy i know
ivory tide
@daring atlas my current line up
ancient skiff
is warek better than saveas ?
daring atlas
@ivory fable worst idea in your game life?
@dark tundra great but not OP. Worst myth of the Undead list, it's not a must have. Gl for passing the 16-12
ivory fable
Yea....
daring atlas
@ivory tide Estrilda > Hogan (from far)
frosty magnet
Not always, Hogan is a better frontline tank
daring atlas
@wise merlin did you passed the burning woods forest?
ivory tide
Is there a list of heroes by tier?
ivory fable
And idea.. I dont have brutus
mighty sluice
I'm conflicted... Is it worth feeding a Skreg to Brutus in order to make him Mythic?... Or should I feed my only L+ Saveas instead?...
Will be a long time until I get an alternative option to either of those...
daring atlas
@frosty magnet Hogan is like... Useless haha. Ok, great stat, but bad synergy, bad capacities, bad name... And it's a native blue
@ivory tide yes and that is useless because every heroes are great. Depend on the way tou use them
mighty sluice
Been stuck in stage 13 for a while now, pretty sure I'll need Brutus up before I can really proceed
daring atlas
@mighty sluice easy answer : never feed a native myth. Always use native blue
ivory fable
random verge
Vedan wrecks my shit lol 9-19 btw
frosty magnet
Draziof I've found him to be not bad as a frontline as I said, of course Lucius is much better but I've used Hogan for a bunch of the campaign levels successfully when using Estrilda wouldn't have worked
viscid hazel
@mighty sluice do you have shemira as carry to hop in for saveas? then maybe yes if you dont have another carry rdy then no
small mural
Hey I’m new and don’t know which hero’s are good. Can one of y’all help me?
viscid hazel
@small mural https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
random verge
Great site
small mural
Thank you 👌
wise merlin
@small mural Next time, #classic-questions ^^
daring atlas
@ivory fable maybe try the child of the wild tank (forgot he's name) instead of Estrilda.
@frosty magnet but Estrilda is bad too hahaha. I'm half kidding, Hogan is not insane, and Estrilda too. Ok, at the start of the game Hogan can be great but not that much
@small mural Every myth heroes are great and you have to keep them (never feed them). You can also ask in PM :)
ivory fable
He's name is Ogi from McDonald's
daring atlas
@ivory fable thanks haha
random verge
The Wilders need a real tank
viscid hazel
@random verge i dont think so there are 4 S Tier wilder heroes already
daring atlas
@random verge best teams are mixed teams...
random verge
True lol but I hate ogi
viscid hazel
ham typing for 10 min straight i think he fell asleep on his keyboard
random verge
Lol
daring atlas
Lul
wise merlin
@viscid hazel 👀
@mighty sluice Before you send, make sure your paragraph doesn't go over 20 sentences! It'll be removed!
ivory fable
@random verge ulmus is a beast i need 30k challenger coins and i can ascend him to mhytic
viscid hazel
ooof
daring atlas
@viscid hazel German people here 👀
ivory fable
Groot*****
viscid hazel
🇩🇪
mighty sluice
Ah I see... Yeah, I'm currently using Shemira on my main squad as well. Saveas is just there for Guild Bosses + Legends Arena atm.
He seems to die really easily in campaign even though the general consensus is that he's op until stage 16?... Which is why I'm so conflicted lol @viscid hazel
frosty magnet
Is it just me or is the trial of the forest in the temple of time really hard?
random verge
Anyone know what I should do here?
mighty sluice
Ahaha I was just switching between apps/ afk for a bit :p
viscid hazel
@random verge u have lots of different options actually
random verge
Do tell
daring atlas
@random verge maybe Ogi > Hogan, and Ferael > Mirael... Can try lot of things
@mighty sluice hahahaha
scenic knoll
@viscid hazel so close
viscid hazel
arden
Lyca
Mirael
Hogan
Nemora
u can swap in vedan for hogan, u can try ferael for mirael
@random verge
@scenic knoll the next stage?
@scenic knoll
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
seems better tho me tho
gilded fractal
may i get some help ^-^ im open to the idea of resetting by the way.
pale kettle
Any ideas? 11-36
scenic knoll
@viscid hazel brute just eats my shem
viscid hazel
@scenic knoll
Nemora
Lyca
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
ur nemora has to be top to charm him
@random verge anything working?
gilded fractal
@ivory fable yeah ik its so sad ;-; i wish i had a better brutus. ill give it a shot. its just that kaz seems to rip through my shem
viscid hazel
@pale kettle kinda few options here as well
good one seems
saveas
shemira
lucius
brutus
arden
ivory fable
Try it 50 times if needed rng is rng
viscid hazel
@gilded fractal
maybe
Shemira
Lyca
arden
brutus
tasi
cant promise anything tho
dark tundra
@wise merlin I beat 16-12 now thanks I 172 Shem and 162 others cos of lacking resources and change estrilda to brutus thanks for the tips
random verge
@viscid hazel nope, I tried a bunch of combos with ferael and vedan but I think the issue is that their gear is sub par right now, Lyca has all my good agility gear
viscid hazel
@random verge ooff swap her gear with feral or vedan then and let her die u only need her for haste, is it close?
random verge
Not really, as soon as their Ults go off it goes downhill very fast
short wagon
Guys should i switch nemora with belinda
raven nebula
can someone help? been stuck for like a week
viscid hazel
@random verge
last suggestion but give lyca the bad gear
ferael
lyca
tasi
hogan
arden
ivory fable
Im the devil 👌
random verge
@viscid hazel appreciate the help, I'll try it now
viscid hazel
@raven nebula i think u focused a lot on kinda bad heroes with ascensions
frigid veldt
Suggestions on lineup for this? Tasi is getting one shot so she's more just there to draw Silvina to Brutus. Maybe a few more levels for the back row will get us there? Wondering if some moves in placement might get me there beforehand though.
loud halo
Pulled 2 new Graveborn dudes today, dunno what my Form should look like now. Any help is appreciated
viscid hazel
@frigid veldt
only other way is
arden
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
IF silvina goes on arden
FYI if you have a lucius its possible to block silvina from jumping straight into ur backline
@loud halo u can start out with a pretty beefy line up consisting of Brutus Khasos Lucius Saveas and Shemira
Grezhul is good in later game not so much early
depends on the stage but id go like this
Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Khasos
random verge
@viscid hazel it came down to a 1v2 which I lost lol I think I need a level or 2 on my heroes maybe
loud halo
Alright, thanks 
@viscid hazel
viscid hazel
@random verge ya u might find urself beating that stage tmrw if not fell free to tag me
random verge
Will do, thanks again :)
versed canopy
Hi ! Any advices for 9-40 ?
frigid veldt
@viscid hazel I do have a Luc but he's only elite. You think it's worth losing the faction bonus?
viscid hazel
@random verge another tip for ur line up; you pretty much always want to keep ur main dps around 10-15 lvls higher than tank and support
@frigid veldt you dont lose faction bonus you swap out lucius for brutus if that helps u but propably not if hes only elite and i dont know if it works if silvina is in the backline only sure of when shes frontline u can block her with lucius
@versed canopy
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Hogan
lyca
versed canopy
Thanks ! Why this comp particularly ? I dont play lyca so some infos would be great
viscid hazel
Arden roots enemies if he survives he can root over and over, shemira because its shemira (Life leach, DPS, 1v5 potential), Tasi for her amazing CC and haste, Hogan is actually not great but its ur highest hero as L+ so we better use him, Lyca has a haste ability that grants everyone on the team energy, with tasi and shemira on your team you want to get ur ult off asap. @versed canopy
wise merlin
@dark tundra Nice! 😁 You're welcome
wispy vine
any hope? or am i just not high enough ascend/level
novel adder
@gilded fractal
when fighting wilders, ideally shem should not be targeted by ira (bleed, slow and healing reduction.. her ult gets countered). Brut should tank that one.. Kaz shreds shem but its the lesser of 2 evils. With good arden RNG you can survive to ult and win. Try this formation
Arden
Shem
Lyca
Brut
Tasi/Nemora.
Arden doesn't quite support shem well down there because 1. Estrilda interrupts 2. All Ira needs is 1 effect auto attack to hit and shem is ruined.
gilded fractal
@novel adder oh true! i forgot that estrilda interrupts arden. thanks, this is probably the best formation i can roll with. is there a reason youd say nemora over tasi?
novel adder
@wispy vine does tasi survive? im guessing lucius explodes.. drop him
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden/Nemora
You can adjust your gear between arden/nemora and tasi to manipulate who silvi targets. The one who is targeted will probably not survive to do anything because there's a isabella sniping even if it lives the silvi stun. I think Arden can do more work here so try to get him not targeted. Put dura's call on shem. Or tasi if she doesn't die.
weak dawn
Should i take estrilda to mythic or wait for 2 more copies of lucias
wary solar
wait for lucius
wispy vine
@novel adder tasi does not survive. lucius does get shield off sometimes. rarely
novel adder
@gilded fractal I'm not sure because i don't know who tasi banishes. haha. I assume kaz or maybe Ira. With this positioning Ira is not priority because Brut is tanking that.. he'll get chunked by estri anyway so doesn't help him too much beyong his 7 sec immunity. And if Kaz, it sort of overlaps with arden root.. You'd want arden to root kaz (best case scenario) because it counters her dodge and shem can siphon her who is a bigger threat than grez and lyca.
Nem bottom side has a high chance of charming ira and estri.. both which will help in reducing ira's energy gen so she doesn't pull off an ult.
But it realy depends. If Tasi can pull off ult you win.. so try with her (dura's call on her) and if she is really far from ulting when she dies, nem might be better.. with nem variation use call on shem and see if it works.
runic robin
Stuck since 3 days 😦
gilded fractal
@supple notch the lineup worked!!!! thank you :D
somber hemlock
team recs i can reset sav to get 141 arden and 161 shem
novel adder
@runic robin hey man.
Try some repositioning.
Shem
Grez
Nemo
Luci
Arden
Ideally you want the bulk of your damage to be on niru first. So shem topside. Also grez will probably not live against ira's faction advantage. Luci is the better bet so he's on melee bot and grez melee top. Nemo centre and hopefully charm opponent nemo/ opp nemo doesn't charm a good target.
@gilded fractal nice XD try to remember the tips.. wilder stages like these happen all throughout the chapters unfortunately.. and its always the wall to this comp.
runic robin
@novel adder yea i think i need my shem higher im dealing like 0 damage because enemy heals
short wagon
Should i switch nemora with belinda is it more worth
spring quarry
Help me...
novel adder
@runic robin try to level the rest of your team to 120, then shem to 141 then rest to 121. This is sort of Shem's weakest period where she can't solo carry. Still great just not solo... so you need the rest of your team leveled to help her. At 141 she gets a great crit buff which is where she picks up again.. but 161 is am even bigger jump. Don't worry about being stuck too long.. its a valley phase.. but once you hit the breakpoint you will fly again.
@short wagon could you give more context? in some cases bel is better in some cases nemora is better... and what do you mean by switch..
runic robin
@novel adder yea thanks a lot nice words i just need to be more patient haha
spring quarry
What could i do
novel adder
@spring quarry be patient, lineup help takes a lot of time to handle each case. do you have any options other than baden,ogi and belinda? Preferably ss your hero roster too as it is stated in the pinned messages. The more information you give the more others can help you.
spring quarry
This is all of my heroes right now, i can make saveas a legy
lime bolt
What’s the best lineup?
grim hatch
Any tips ?
gilded fractal
i need tips for ditzys stage too with the exact same lineup haha
somber hemlock
need new lineup
drifting helm
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/589077790826037279/image0.png?width=264&height=468 so this is my lineup and I was wondering with who to replace Ira sooner or later
novel adder
@spring quarry hmmm, i think its better to wait and not ascend saveas.. its 100x better in the long run to wait to be able to build an E+ ankhira so you can ascend sav straight to L+.
Tbh Its a bit tough, you seem to lack a third faction unit for gb, lb and mauler.. If you have reso crystal slots you can try putting vurk/khasos there.
And run this
Saveas
Niru
Vurk/Khasos
Golus
Flex option (Belinda/Mirael/Tasi/Baden) try them all and see which works best.
That way your maulers get a boost. I'd guess baden/tasi might be better but try all..
buoyant jasper
Hard stuck here. Basically getting aoe oneshotted but its likely due to level. Either way, what would be a good lineup to get past this? And should I level the 8x's or Shemira? Thanks!
odd egret
Who better saveus or grezhul
thorny raptor
Does everyone put shimera on frontline
ancient hound
@odd egret definitely Saveas pre-160
gilded fractal
shemira post 161 is able to tank quite well, possibly even before then but she gets really viable after 161 as a tank. plus gets ult off faster which is nevessary if u build her as a carry. @thorny raptor
ancient hound
@buoyant jasper replace Ogi by Brutus
Additionally you could try:
Tasi
Shemira
Arden
Brutus/ Estrilda/ Hogan
Nemora --> make sure Nemora charms Niru
celest meadow
Hey guys, I have this set of heroes and am really struggling to get past 6/28. I’m pretty new here so if I get anything wrong let me know. I’ve been rocking Saveas for a long time but just can’t get past this level. Any suggestions
odd egret
@Hiker thanks a bunch
novel adder
@lime bolt depends on stage but you could run something like
Brut, Luci, Sav, Estri, khasos/fawkes/belinda (mauler/lb)
or
Brut, Luci, Sav, Khasos, Shem
Build around a 3 faction core that incorporates your highest leveled.
I have noticed that you have 2 lb units hardstuck on L, in future try to avoid that. Its good practice to wait for 4 copies so you know you can ascend to L+. To shorten your stuck period, don't build anymore fancy units.. focus on making L+ fodder units like Arden, Golus, Hogan.
celest meadow
That’s the level in question. I had Saveas at 91, warek/nemora at 81 and Arden/Tasi at 77
ancient hound
@celest meadow
Based on this I'd suggest:
Tasi
Saveas (max lvl)
Arden
Hogan
Nemora
Get the 4 non-saveas to a buffpoint (either 41/61/81) and then max Saveas ahead of them
You say you've been using Saveas as carry, did you try him on frontline?
celest meadow
Yeah I’ve tried him frontline and had success but on this particular level he just gets melted
ancient hound
By Brutus for sure, but probably not on top-front? Anyways, if this doesn't work, you might be underleveled
celest meadow
Maybe not, I think the whole team was just collapsing before anything could really take shape
Yeah maybe underlevelled, which I expect to happen as I’m F2P, just wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing anything majorly wrong. If it’s just time to chill, that’s cool.
strange lion
Im stuck at 15-16 any line up suggestion?
ancient hound
@celest meadow I think with those levels you should be able to pass. Try to make Nemora charm their bottom line-up & let Hogan disrupt Brutus. You could pass with luck, after trying 30 times sometimes. Anyways gl
novel adder
@gilded fractal @grim hatch
Erm, only thing i see right now is swap brut and shem's position. Shem needs to ult as fast as possible with as high health as possible (more crit chance passive) There is too much damage up top. Try dura's call on tasi. If she isn't close to ulting after trying your rng luck a few times, put call on shem instead. Also consider the following combinations
Arden top Nem bottom, Nem top arden bottom, and nem,tasi variations. Always restart if shem gets silenced. Nem charming grez, isabella, shem can lead to good stuff sometimes provided all other rng is good too.
celest meadow
@ancient hound appreciate the quick help mate, I’ll give it a try
hasty night
solemn minnow
@hasty night you need some damage dealer, its 2 tanks and 3 supports
ancient hound
@solemn minnow depends on your line-up. I've been stuck at it for like 1 day, but then another day on 9-22, one on 9-28, 9-32, 9-36 etc. Starting from 9-20 it simply becomes way harder and you'll need a true damage and/ or tank carry. Getting Saveas L+ got me past those stages.
celest meadow
@ancient hound final question, on that line up, who would you put Dura’s grace on?
hasty night
@solemn minnow Oh. But I dont really have any good dps tbh. Do I like put in estarilda and mirael in somewhere? But If i try without Tasi+Nemora I die really quick
ancient hound
@celest meadow If an assassin in the comp, on the assassin-target (Tasi/ Nemora) otherwise your main tank. Because of the HP & shield buff. I have it by default on Hogan, but sometimes switch to Nemora
solemn minnow
@hasty night imo mirael should be fine in that comp instead of your 55 lv support- i forgot her name lol
novel adder
@somber hemlock what are u running now?
I think 4 mauler plus shem is good for now. What i see is you need dust to get arden, vurk and hogan 141 asap. Make sure to buy those with gold in the store daily. 141 is big for Arden and Brutus especially.. triple root instead of 2 and 7 sec vs 4 sec immunity. Big Big jumps.
After that 161 shem as soon as possible when u have the dust.
Then you can run
Brut, Shem, Arden, Lyca, Nemora/saveas. slowly phase out saveas.
hasty night
ok, who should i sub out?
solemn minnow
Use Ira or Mirael instead of Raine
pale kettle
Hi what comp i can use to beat them ?
ancient hound
@hasty night Also level up your main carry & main tank ahead of your supports
hasty night
I dont really have a main carry. Does Lucius count?
ancient hound
@pale kettle Hard to say without seeing exact line-up, better post picture of enemy line-up. Suggest using Fawkes/ Estrilda/ Lucius/ Tasi/ Nemora
@hasty night As tank carry for sure. In your case I'm talking about Mirael & Lucius indeed
novel adder
@drifting helm As long as you haven't gotten 5 L+ units you will need her. So after that, you need to build an ascended tier L+ unit. Lyca, Tasi, Nemora are good options. Wait to ascend.. whichever you get 4 copies of first then you ascend that one.. don't wanna build one halfway and get the other one to 4 first. I personally prefer nemora because she is available from lab shop. Also she scales with ascensions better imo.
pale kettle
hasty night
Also, why Ira? Isnt she wilder? Do the faction weakness not matter that much?
daring atlas
Hey! Did someone over there managed to get through the la Peak of Time (Burning Woods)? The boss are way too stong, I can't find a way to beat them... Did someone that managed to defeat the boss could send me the line-up they used?
ancient hound
@hasty night Mirael is Lightbearer, so either way you have 3/2 bonus & Lightbearer have faction advantage against Maulers (your enemies)
drifting helm
@novel adder thanks for advice
ancient hound
@pale kettle you want to charm Niru with Nemora. Tasi will attract the enemy assassin, which is good if she dodges to the right place (need some luck).
Nemora
Estrilda
Tasi
Lucius
Fawkes
hasty night
dang
somber hemlock
@novel adder running nemora arden lyca brutus saveas
cursive sparrow
ancient hound
@daring atlas search on youtube. Gives walkthrough for all PoT
pale kettle
@ancient hound okay ty i.ll try this
cursive sparrow
any tips for my line up/ level?
twin plank
Any tips on who I should use? Are Grezhul or Lyca useful? I just pulled them
daring atlas
@ancient hound the issue is not the walk-through, the issue is THEM
pale kettle
tbh Idk what I'm doing half the time but I'd say but shemira in frontline, with lucious behind her or middle, and switch Belinda for like arden @cursive sparrow though if it doesn't work then uhhh sorry im not very good myself 😂
cursive sparrow
okay thanks
pale kettle
I got past all go chapter 11 and stuff using a lineup sorta like that
ancient hound
@daring atlas I haven't done this stage myself yet, but maybe the old trick of weakening them with 1-2 line-ups and kill with a next? Not sure if it works there.
daring atlas
@twin plank depend on the game mode. Both great, not OVERPOWERED but clearly usefull. Lyca for the energy boost at the start of the battle and Grezhul after lvl 161 for the summoning of 2 minions with is ult, his shield...
ancient hound
@twin plank In addition to what draziof said: don't rely on the crystal at your level. I'd focus on achieving buffpoints (lvl 21/41/61/81 etc). Get to those levels first with your damage carry, then your main tank, then the rest. (So don't equally level your heroes up by 1 level)
pale kettle
Unwinnable with my stuff need to afk farm for a day 😭
daring atlas
@ancient hound the issue is that if Sylvina or Athalia manage to proc, your heroes get one shouted ; so you have to use heroes that protect with barriers (nemo, lucius) but also heroes that unable them to proc (nemo, tasi, fawkes...). But if you protect and anti proc too much, you deal no damages, and when you end the battle, maybe one of them is dead, but the other one is still there... And if you don't protect too much, you get rekt :/
novel adder
@strange lion hmm interesting.. you kinda have a problem because your strongest leveled unit and damager is only eironn and he's wilder against a full mauler.. You need more damage.
Try
Nemo
Luci
Lyca/Tasi
Eironn
Belinda.
Eiron should pull the 3 together (pulling brut is a problem) and nicely into bel's aoe. I think Lyca might be better here because she does a bit of damage and helps eironn ult faster. I
daring atlas
@twin plank (I agree with what @ancient hound said)
ancient hound
@daring atlas Aha I get the problem. Well I have no idea about the damages at your stage, but usually Silvina doesn't one-shot me if I have low energy (her dmg is based on energy of her target & she targets highest energy). So maybe try full focus Athalia burst & keep low energy when Silvina is going to ulti? I wouldn't know otherwise 😒
grizzled lodge
I need help, any ideas?
daring atlas
@ancient hound thanks for the tip, didn't know that Sylvina's damges were based on energy! But anyway, lvl 300 Sylvina vs lvl 200/180 heroes, she's bullying me anyway ^^
ancient hound
@grizzled lodge you want to use your Lightbearers for the factional damage advantage. So get Hogan/ Estrilda/ Belinda + Brutus & Saveas in
@daring atlas well then I could help you at least about Silvina ^^ gl with the stages & with farming
daring atlas
@grizzled lodge maybe try belinda instead of Sylvina and place like this :
Nisu
Khasos
Belinda
Brutus
Salveas
In order to focus the "weak" side (always focus on the weak side)
@ancient hound you too!
celest meadow
@ancient hound ended up using
Tasi
Saveas
Nemora
Hogan
Arden
After about 15 tries it worked. Thanks man!!!!
grizzled lodge
@daring atlas should it looks like that?
ancient hound
@celest meadow nice nice, sometimes just switching & trying works (especially if you keep losing by very small margins)
pale kettle
@ancient hound unless you lose by a big margin and shemira just carries you 😂
daring atlas
Yes @grizzled lodge
Try like this, and with other changes, try to see what is effective against who, with switching heroes or positioning
grizzled lodge
ok
ancient hound
@grizzled lodge if it doesn't work, try using the Factional advantage (using your Lightbearer heroes) like I mentioned before 😉
oak raven
Should I be using faction scroll pulls on wilder or lightbearer?
novel adder
@daring atlas if you have a full charged tasi, if you spam click i think you can stop the first stun. Works best with full charged shem too. Don't give silv targets to kill so position such that someone like brut gets the aggro.. if you have your own ezizh.. maybe can abuse timed ults to stop silvi ult. I haven't bothered to try it coz im lazy haha but just some ideas to try.
athalia luci.. maybe tasi banish with some cc lock to kill them. Quite relic dependent though. If luci heals are a problem a safely position ira might help counter that.
spring quarry
Just got a question, is it better to have one much higher lvl and the rrst lower or have them all balanced?
grizzled lodge
I'm trying, but there's nothing I can do. Saveas is destroing me. He just 3-shot my heroes.
pale kettle
I always level up my damage dealer way higher than the rest, atleast 20 levels higher 😅 it used to be saveas now it's shemira
ancient hound
You might need Nemora to charm Saveas, or get Brutus strong enough to endure it then.
grizzled lodge
ok
daring atlas
@novel adder that's true for Tasi, already using that advice. Every heroes are full energy at the start of the battle and Ezizh (mine) is great for anti procking, but the energy is not going as fast as I would wish haha.
Fawkes is really good against Lucius by the way, neglecting shield and banishing for some time
pale kettle
Suggestion for clear this stage and for my team?
daring atlas
@spring quarry it depend. At the start of the game, up everyone to every 21, 41, 61 etc level. After level 161, it's better to have a constant team in term of level. Having a sol carry can also help (high level Shemi can do everything)
novel adder
@daring atlas oh yes forgot about fawkes XD. Estri for more energy gen? lol or maybe use everybody except brut ult when he's on immunity to bait it hhaha.. probably too hard to pull off though.
daring atlas
@novel adder too much energy / defence / enemy control buffer will low the damage delt, what is already an issue haha
slate zodiac
Any ideas on how to beat this
open mural
@pale kettle try getting shem to 180, putting brutus as high as he can go after. you don't have a good wilder trifecta, so maybe tasi ezizh luca backline? unless you have an arden or can get a nemora. so
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Ezizh
maybe?
@slate zodiac try mirael in the middle, and put estrilda in the front over athalia. Put nemora in the backline bottom slot to try to charm brutus
sick creek
Any ideas or am I just too low lvled? I have 1 crystal slot open soon. 6 5
open mural
@sick creek i think having saveas as your carry would be better than shem right now. Also using brutus estrilda front and then saveas belinda raine back would be better
sick creek
Estrilda and no healer when they kill my frontline so fast brutus next to never gets his ultimate off? I took estrilda off my crystal because I was sick of her instantly dying
grim hatch
Lol now I’m stuck here @novel adder, kaz is still using her skill evasive strike eventhough she’s rooted fml
open mural
her dodge is scripted, so she'll dodge out of anything every 10 seconds. Maybe try lyca front bottom and then arden nemora tasi in the back to try to charm kaz? @grim hatch
ancient nest
Aight I need help I’m still just getting started and I have no idea what to do
grim hatch
@open mural I’m not sure about this but even when she’s charm does she still dodge and hit me ? Lol
open mural
if you burn her first dodge with her 3rd skill you should be able to charm her. That's what i do vs Kaz
remote thunder
ancient nest
Help I can’t do this one
shut harness
narrow thicket
@wise merlin please help this man. He is level160 and still on chp12-12
ancient nest
No help me 😢
ancient hound
@inland kite let's see it here
wise merlin
@narrow thicket Who ?
inland kite
And this is an experimental formation, anything I do legit gets 1 shot, battle ends in like 4 seconds
ancient hound
@ancient nest what's the problem? Who gets targetted by Silvina? Does Silvina oneshot? Frontline die?
ancient nest
the fire woman instantly dies from the boss
inland kite
I'm so done with trying, like seriously, even all my main heroes have almost full legendary
crisp coral
Well your problem is that youre lacking Brutus ^^
fading jasper
@ancient nest keep only 5 units lvled up and put those extra exp on your lineup
ancient hound
@ancient nest dang you leveled 7 units. Reset 2 of them indeed & level up Mirael & Belinda
ancient nest
alright im working on it
fading jasper
@inland kite do you have raine? You can try silvina + raine instead of seavas or instad of nem and belinda
narrow thicket
@ancient nest Warek/Hogan/Arden/Tasi/Fereal. Ok first reset some of those units and level tasi to 61+ and the rest into Fereal and Hogan. Then use the lineup I just wrote. Only level 5 heroes at a time
solemn cloud
Would appreciate some help ))
stoic yoke
are there any tier lists I can look at or should I just post my heroes so you lovely people can help?
inland kite
No I don't have raine
ancient hound
@inland kite do you already have Legendary boots on Nemora? I think you should keep Nemora in to charm enemy Sav
ancient nest
Alright I lvled some of them a ton
inland kite
I can give some to her, I've been switching gear
ancient hound
It's actually something I got from @wise merlin I believe. Better boots on Nemora gives faster charm (?) seems to work for me at least
wise merlin
@ancient hound It is true! ^
ancient nest
it worked
inland kite
Nemora dies too quickly, silvina 1 shots her basically
stoic yoke
Keep getting rekted on 6-12
narrow thicket
@inland kite use this lineup Nemora/Thane/Lucius/Saveas/Arden and try reseting a few times. See where it gets you
fading jasper
@inland kite what a about mirael? She is lvl 160 no? If she doesnt work might aswell reset her an up silvina to 160 or if you have already enough dust for another 141 reset belinda and lvl up silvina
narrow thicket
Place them in thst order
solemn cloud
Would appreciate some help ))
narrow thicket
This was the lineup I used to beat 12-12
ancient hound
Mm I have to admit that level looks really heavy for you @inland kite ... Niru, Brutus, Saveas & Silvina quite some dmg and you lack a strong tank...
Next to that I would indeed reset one of the L, to get Silvina as L+ in the crystal to 160
ancient nest
Which of the 3 I circled is my worst? Because I’m tempted to replace one of them by that guy I circled
narrow thicket
@ancient nest belinda
inland kite
It gets nemora 1 shotted, legit 1 shot or like 1% health and stunned
narrow thicket
@inland kite that's the point
ancient hound
At level 60 I believe Ferael is worse, especially because of union bonus?
narrow thicket
Fereal actually does real dmg at 60
ancient nest
i mean belinda has like double the damage that ferael has
solemn cloud
You guys really like to ignore )
ancient hound
@solemn cloud 1 sec
inland kite
Dude if people dont respind right away they're probably looking, be patient
solemn cloud
@ancient houndty
stoic yoke
there's slow mode and multiple people needing help, woolfy
inland kite
Idk, I'll try resetting mirael for silvina
narrow thicket
@inland kite nemora is suppose to get sniped by silv and then silv will be on the frontlines where you can hit her. Saveas will start attacking her right away
ancient hound
Hmm I think your comp worked because Silvina targets Tasi, who can dodge away and stay alive @narrow thicket . Not sure if you wanna sacrifice Nemora right away. I would try to get Dura's grace also on Nemora to give her more sustain if you hadnt @inland kite
meager mason
Guys im hardstuck at 11-36. my lucius gettin rekt so hard... any tips?
narrow thicket
@ancient hound no it targets nemora which is why nemora is on the frontline
It was originally a green unit but there is a bug with silv ulti
Where if the person she dashes to dies before she hits them then her attack will go global and hit the next unit on her list
It is entirely stupid
Sorry not ulti, her starting dash*
ancient hound
@solemn cloud switch Athalia in for Shemira & make Athalia dive on Niru. Also could try to tank with Saveas on frontline
inland kite
narrow thicket
Yup that looks right
inland kite
Oh I thought that may replay, how do I get it to play
inland kite
Oh well silvina is level 160 but my 140s are keeping the crystal from going up
drowsy raptor
stoic yoke
oh, should i be posting my formation too?
narrow thicket
@inland kite oh you have tasi, didnt notice. If Arden doesnt work try tasi. It's unfortunate you dont have a good dps frontline like shemira but j hope thane can fill the role well enough
ancient hound
@meager mason switch Raine for Nemora. Put Nemora in bottom & make sure to charm saveas. Also make your Saveas go to top and Belinda to mid.
drowsy raptor
I get close with this. Nemora usually gets her ult, everybody actually, and I can kill brutus a good chunk of the time but never golus. Isabella is the big problem.
Obviously, saveas is 19 levels higher than estrilda and has a damage reduction passive, so he survives the entire fight against brutus unless silv cucks him, so estrilda top doesn't work. He can't kill golus.
ancient hound
@drowsy raptor I sometimes fit in Athalia, even though she's underleveled to stop Isabella from ravaging. Idk if you have her? I have been surprised myself how much Athalia can change a fight sometimes
drowsy raptor
I have her E+ actually, I think I tried that already, but I'll give it another go
stoic yoke
Usually this formation works but it doesn't seem to because the top enemy heroes
ancient nest
Oof now I’m completely stuck at this one, help
drowsy raptor
Alright this seems promising, silv gets low but Sav has adhd and stops hitting her
ancient hound
@ancient nest Is it possible to get all your 5 main heroes to 61? You got enough powder? Also, focus on 1 tank and 1 dps. Now you are levelling both Mirael & Belinda, focus on one of them. I'd say Belinda. Furthermore, you could try to switch Arden & Tasi and see which works best per level
Another tip would be to focus on the weaker side, which is top in this case. Put your strong units top, and CC (Arden/ Tasi) bottom.
ancient nest
i have like 1k powder i should be good, ill try it out
drowsy raptor
hm
inland kite
ive tried tasi... that doesnt work either
ancient hound
Ok, so reset Mirael once, then get your main heroes to 61 & put the rest in Belinda (to 81). Then Hogan to 81.@ancient nest
inland kite
im just beyond sick of this lol
ancient hound
@inland kite also tried Tasi with Duras Grace? Does Tasi get Silvina aggro?
drowsy raptor
got very close here
inland kite
yes, tasi grabs it
ancient hound
@drowsy raptor if you get close, just keep trying. You will make it within 50 times ^^
drowsy raptor
if sav crits three times spider bitch dies before silv gets there and that fixes his add
narrow thicket
@inland kite increase tasi defense or lower nemoras
She needs to attack nemora
Silv targets the lowest defense mage on the field
inland kite
what artifacts do i need to use on charries? i have up to divine realm beaten
drowsy raptor
ulmus is an oak not a cherry
narrow thicket
@inland kite eye on sav
inland kite
i have eye on saveas call on lucius grace on tasi and drape on nemora
drowsy raptor
drape on nemora? it's healing received, correct
narrow thicket
Put call on tasi
inland kite
shes still targeting tasi
narrow thicket
You need to remove drape from nemore
Her defense is too high
Silv targets the lowest defense mage on the field
Nemora must have less defense then tasi
inland kite
okay targeted silvina, thane dies next, tasi, lucius with no ult and then saveas
drowsy raptor
i think dura's grace is the best on nemora
ancient hound
But safiya are u saying Nemora should get one-shotted?
dim nymph
@ancient nest do u have union bonus for your characters?
narrow thicket
@ancient hound yes nemora is just a sacrifice
inland kite
yes hiker, thats exactly what they're saying
narrow thicket
So that saveas can target silv
wise merlin
@inland kite Hello, friend!
You seem to be going through a lot of many various advices, may you show what level you're stuck at? Maybe I could help? 😋
ancient hound
Okay, but then he can just remove basically 2 items right?
inland kite
12-12
narrow thicket
@wise merlin help this man nicky xD lineup gives me a headache
wise merlin
@narrow thicket Take a break hun, I got this ❤
inland kite
Andits actually woman but its aaight
wise merlin
@inland kite Do share your formation and your hero roster so I'll advice more specifically. ^^
ancient hound
Hah I'm curious @wise merlin I'll follow ur advice
inland kite
drowsy raptor
Think it might be worth it to reset saveas to like, 150 and give some levels to my frontlinerrs
ivory fable
Why did you make legendary saveas if you have legendary+ saveas
drowsy raptor
backup for divine realm 
wise merlin
@inland kite Okay, here's my idea. ^^
Firstly, make sure to read this and fix your 5 main accordingly! ^^ (The last 2 paragraphs matter the most.)
inland kite
because legit, why not? there wasnt anyone else worth ascending that could go higher, and no i cant get brutus
drowsy raptor
well L+ golus would probably be fine
anyway it's fine you need L+ units to feed to mythics to grow them
wise merlin
@inland kite As for your formation, I would use this formation;
Arden / Tasi
Nemora
Tasi / Arden
Thane / Lucius
Lucius / Thane
You're going to rely on a lot of RNG and proper durability from Nemora, roots might go better than before if Arden has the best shoes available!
inland kite
okay for that post, i should make sure my 5 are the highest level? so it'd be saveas silvina, arden, niru and... i dont have anyone else legendary plus
ancient hound
you have mirael L+
sullen lotus
Can anyone help me with 5-4 lineup? Stuck
wise merlin
@inland kite Mirael!
It'll allow you to receive a level 141 ability buff break!
inland kite
OH mirael i forgot about her lmao
ancient hound
You shouldve gotten enough powder in those 2 months to get the 141 buff indeed for your L units
drowsy raptor
god silvina is so fun with her 1360% damage ult which does about 160k at her level
inland kite
so im sorry, im not quiteee catching what i should do in this situation to get the break i need
wise merlin
@drowsy raptor That's not Silvina. that's PvE in a nutshell.
ivory fable
Raine ult+silvina ult
ancient hound
@sullen lotus post your roster & enemy line-up please. Also on that low stage you probably just need to level 1 or 2 good carries
inland kite
put my highest in the crystal, take the lowest out?
sullen lotus
Haven’t been able to get through this. Been levelling sav, got him recently
wise merlin
@inland kite Level up both Mirael and Niru to 141, and put Belinda in Lucius in Crystal.
Allowing Lucius to receive his level 141 ability break (which is for his ult, I believe)
ivory fable
Ult buffs are in lvl 161
ancient hound
@inland kite yes get all your 5 E+ into the crystal and get them all lvl 141. Then invest the rest in Sav etc again
wise merlin
@ivory fable Okay. thanks for the info ^^
glass rapids
Can someone help me with my line up
pale kettle
Hi, can you help me with lineup? I stuck here :/
ivory fable
ancient hound
@pale kettle for you also goes what @wise merlin said before: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587309016322146337/Screenshot_2019-06-06-10-18-54-989_com.discord.png
Practically: get Tasi out of crystal, Mirael in to 120 & Tasi can also get to 120
inland kite
Anyone I should just reset? I dont have enough to get mirael abd niru to 141
wise merlin
@inland kite Yes. Belinda and Lucius. of course. ^^ since you'll be putting them in Crystal and their level will bump anyways!
ancient hound
^Khasos --> Lucius
edgy seal
Any advice for 9-32, cheers
wise merlin
@inland kite That will grant you a whole team of level 141+, ensuring that ability pass, expanding might, and making a much more various decision pool for you!
@ancient hound Smh, thanks. xD
sick creek
Is this doable? Legendary brutus is a beast
inland kite
ugh my internet on my phone is flipping out
ancient hound
There's been non-stop work here for 2 hours, danggg. Gonna go for dinner xD
onyx basin
Can you help me build a team for one of these?
sullen lotus
So should I just level sav to make it through 5-4? Idk why I’m stuck so early
ancient hound
@sick creek Yes, you need some CC and burst down the other heroes in Brutus' team. Try Arden or Tasi if you have them and let your Brutus go against enemy Brutus. Also replace Numisu with Saveas
viscid hazel
@onyx basin it’s hard since u did not post ur heroes
sick creek
@ancient hound I will put tasi in my crystal asap just waiting on the timer. Just for reference my frontline so far is melting like butter on a hot day
onyx basin
@viscid hazel i pretty much have all of em except the new ones
inland kite
alright well i have a cd to wait for with crystal now to put belinda and lucius in
viscid hazel
@onyx basin the u can win with Arden Tasi Nemora lyca Brutus shemira as for all stages
stoic yoke
Reposting just in case
pale kettle
You mean about this? 🤭
wise merlin
@inland kite Do you have enough resources to get your minimum level of the top 5 to be 141? if not, try the formation I've proposed before! ^^
onyx basin
@viscid hazel that was my go to till lyca and tasi died
wise merlin
As for your formation, I would use this formation;
Arden / Tasi
Nemora
Tasi / Arden
Thane / Lucius
Lucius / Thane
You're going to rely on a lot of RNG and proper durability from Nemora, roots might go better than before if Arden has the best shoes available!
inland kite
yes my top 5 are 141
wise merlin
How high can you level them to?
inland kite
i dont have resources to level them anymore
wise merlin
Also good! now at least the advantage won't be as rough on you!
Think the formation proposed would work? with Nemora dying first, Tasi and Arden taking care of the rest?
Now that Tasi is level 141, for everytime she is hit, she teleports faster.
inland kite
i cant put belinda and lucius in crystal yet, i need 200 diamonds
wise merlin
Ah, then Instead of Lucius you can put Fawkes, if he can catch hold of any of them for 8 seconds it'd do you wonders. ^^
It'd also keep the faction bonus 15% hp and 15% atk
inland kite
im a little confused on your rotation, can you edit it to incorporate what i have ? i see you need tasi arden fawkes thane and nemora
wise merlin
Arden or Tasi here
Nemora
Tasi or Arden here (You could always swap to Tasi up there so she will teleport faster from being hit by Saveas)
Thane
Fawkes
inland kite
imma eat then continue
wise merlin
Okay! enjoy your food! ^^
drowsy raptor
won with this. I gave Nemora all of my best mage armor, then gave arden the drape so nemora would be the target, let her get her ult off. Then timed estrilda's ult so that silv's didn't do any damage.
golus isn't damagy enough to kill arden, so arden even got multiple roots off.
pale kettle
I did what @ancient hound told me and i progressed 2 levels. Now i stuck here. Any advices about lineup?
pale kettle
@ivory fable Brutus and Lucius frontline?
ivory fable
Yea.
slate zodiac
Should I add Ulmus or Thoran to a 3 LB team with Nemora
indigo jolt
Which LB? @slate zodiac
inland kite
lets go, time to get back to it @wise merlin
slate zodiac
Well it's 2LB and Athalia so it gets the 3 faction buff. Athalia, Mirael, and Estrilda
ivory fable
@pale kettle its working??
slate zodiac
@indigo jolt
inland kite
how many times should i try with one formation before i switch? @wise merlin
ivory fable
@inland kite min.10-15
inland kite
well this is like 4 tries
indigo jolt
I'd go with Thoran. But depends on you're level.
slate zodiac
90 Athalia. Everything else 72
inland kite
on my 6th
pale kettle
@ivory fable Isabell and Silvina kills my team. I'm able to kill 1-2 enemies
ivory fable
Put athalia on isabella maybe..
indigo jolt
Probably Thoran then.
slate zodiac
@indigo jolt I also have Seirus and Grezhul. I'm just wondering which to swap my gear to
Or to keep it on Thoran
pale kettle
Hey all, sorry to bug everyone Anyone else struggle with 9-20? Did you pass it and how so
indigo jolt
@pale kettle 9-20 is a fairly common wall, personally had 140 sav and bunch of cc wilders.
@slate zodiac Grezhul or Thoran are better at this stage of the game.
ivory fable
Stuck...
pale kettle
@indigo jolt this is my strongest huys what would you suggest
indigo jolt
Can you send another pic with the rest of heros?
pale kettle
@indigo jolt
wise merlin
@inland kite Oh, until you realize the RNG isn't good there, or if Arden or Tasi die before rooting / Tasi's ultimate move
@inland kite I'm praying for you! 🙏
inland kite
FUCK YOU NIRU AND BRUTUS
pale kettle
???
austere stag
any team comp suggestions? Can get Estrilda to Ascended whenever I get another l+ fodder. Still haven't gotten first purchase gift
inland kite
Sorry XD my bad lmao, been stuck at this for like 2 months and Finally best it
Oh and nicky I just got 250 diamonds
indigo jolt
@pale kettle
Maybe
Ira
Lyca
Tasi
Brutus
Silviana
If Lyca always dies before you kill niru replace her.
wise merlin
@inland kite YOU PASSED IT?!?!
pale kettle
I'll give it a go
inland kite
yeah now time to get stuck on the next thing for a while XD
wise merlin
We'll see 😆
You're welcome btw 😋
inland kite
Yas thank you
narrow thicket
@wise merlin congratz hun, your amazing!!
wise merlin
I'm actually so happy oml
narrow thicket
The King/Queen of #lineup-help
thanks 😘
narrow thicket
Np, you deserve it for saving a man's career. That was the hardest stuck I've seen xd
pale kettle
Hello everyone, I need help to get through the stage 6-36, I've Lucius Elite, Hogan Elite+, Nemora, Lyca, Nara Elite+, Saveas Elite+, Ira Elite, Silvina Elite+, Golus Elite+, Vurk Elite, Numisu Elite, Grezhul Elite +, Morvus Elite+, Raine Elite+, Arden Elite, Ogi Elite, Isabella Elite, Vedan Elite, Mirael Elite , Estrilda Elite, Warek Elite, Shemira Elite.
narrow thicket
Your tales shall go down in the annuals of #lineup-help history
ivory fable
Screenshot is gud thing use it
wise merlin
@pale kettle Hello Adventurer 
may you check the pinned messages of this chatroom!
One of which (the last) includes a 4 pages long guide showing specific heroes usage, their abilities, reasoning, and so on! ^^
narrow thicket
Also nice SS you have there for people who need help tweaking their crystal
inland kite
Oh gosh this looks fun
wise merlin
@inland kite Easy pass.. they have no CC. Arden and Tasi will carry you ;)
Make sure Arden roots Ankhira before she uses cobweb on anyone
inland kite
You ded
viscid hazel
160 arden Nicu
wise merlin
@viscid hazel He was stuck for 2 months at a level... Now that he's unstuck he's just plowing through 😂
pale kettle
Sry, i'm not really familiar with the english :/
restive tangle
Hi, can you help me with lineup? I stuck here :/
inland kite
ancient hound
gz @inland kite
viscid hazel
That’s the best feeling being stuck on a stage then suddenly making 10-15 or more stages in one run
inland kite
12-20 ded you done son
wise merlin
@ancient hound Ahhhhh 😂 can't believe I pulled it off
sick creek
What should I use to complete this lineup? I had Hogan there before but he literally dies in .5 seconds and gets 0 damage. If I put brutus vs brutus spider girl 1 shots entire backline after they kill Hogan almost as fast as brutus does. I checked and my brutus and Belinda basically do all of the damage
pale kettle
@indigo jolt dude you rock!!! Thanks I finally passed it
ancient hound
With Fawkes Arden and Thane lol :p didn't expect Fawkes there at once
sick creek
@inland kite gz
restive tangle
Hi, can you help me with lineup
ancient hound
Really gj @wise merlin ur solving the real projects here :p
indigo jolt
@pale kettle Yw. Gl going forward.
viscid hazel
@restive tangle Brutus Athalia shemira Ezizh Ferael is a line up I ran almost trough all of early stages. Until Athalia and Ezizh got stuck on E+ 
wise merlin
@ancient hound You're doing as good as I do as a helper. ^^
ancient hound
So many people level up all heroes by one level 😒 I should have a post like you to respond to people that have all heroes on level 90
wise merlin
@ancient hound 😂 you can always make one and screenshot
ancient hound
Gonna do that in a sec lol, and I'll check if there isn't one yet
wise merlin
Okay ^^
viscid hazel
@restive tangle listen to hiker 😃 it’s actually not that good to have all heroes on same lvl prio on dps then tank and support 10-15 lvls on early stages is a decent amount I think
restive tangle
Yeah okay
ancient hound
Focus on those level points. First get one damage dealer to the next point, then your main tank & then the rest.
ancient hound
So get all of them to 81, then up Belinda to 101, then Hogan or Estrilda
viscid hazel
Help I’m stuck on line-up help cause I can’t beat my own stage
hasty night
wise merlin
@restive tangle Dear Adventurer...
Please read this thouroughly and re-design your lineup!
(Include Brutus in your main 5, as he's L tier)
proven finch
Um any help on 11-40?
wise merlin
@viscid hazel I'll be happy to help you 😁
viscid hazel
@hasty night
I assume u tried ira for the wilders faction buff
The problem on this stage is Brutus and Saveas focus 1 of your tanks. Consider using Thoran on front bottom.
Line up could look like this
Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Thoran
Ira
Swap ira and Nemora around if u need to charm Brutus and Nemora
sweet crest
inland kite
420 blaze it, 12 30 dead
sweet crest
Any suggestions for 12 40
pale kettle
Hello, can you help me to go through?
sweet crest
!ranks
ancient hound
Basic Guide for levelling heroes:
- Heroes in the crystal:
Your top 5 should not include the heroes you play the most(!) It should include the heroes that have the current highest level cap: your highest-ascended heroes. How will that help?
For example, Tasi and Nemora are E and Belinda and Khasos are E+. Initially you put Tasi and Nemora in the top 5 on the crystal, even though they are capped at level 100. If you replace them by Belinda and Khasos (even if you don’t use them as much), you can level them up to level 120. If you then put Nemora and Tasi back in the crystal (not in the top 5 anymore), they will be level 120 thanks to Belinda and Khasos that are in the crystal now. (Credits to @wise merlin ) - Skill unlocks:
Certain levels unlock new skills or improve an existing one. Currently those levels are: 11/ 21/ 41/ 61/ 81/ 101/ 121/ 141/ 161/ 181/ 201 and 221. You should focus on getting those levels (especially early on) per champion. So, first get your main damage dealer to the next skill unlock, then your main tank, then the rest of your comp. Certain very strong carries could even be levelled further ahead of your comp (e.g. Saveas, Shemira).
What you think about this @wise merlin ?
sweet crest
!rank
gaunt kelpBOT
Iulian, this command is disabled in this channel
verbal orbit
Hello, I could use some help for 8-40. Thank you in advance
chilly marten
@sweet crest go to #levelup-channel
viscid hazel
Any ideas appreciated don’t put too much work in it tho only stuck for few days and I have ascension of Brutus Rdy if really needed
@ancient hound already screenshotted
pale kettle
Anyone?
chilly marten
@pale kettle Nara counters Brutus because she ignores his immunity
viscid hazel
@verbal orbit
Something like
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Tasi
chilly marten
Maybe build around her
verbal orbit
Thank you
ancient hound
@pale kettle first advice is the basic guide I just made. Another advice is to go Lucius/Hogan frontline & Nemora, Arden & Lyca in the back. Level up Lyca & Lucius first. Personally I don't find Nara as strong and with her you don't profit from union bonus.
verbal orbit
Worked like a charm @viscid hazel !thank you
viscid hazel
@pale kettle cause of dps yes but keep in mind u might lack some dps with this line up cause wilders backline kinda is best with Brutus and shemira 
cause they have enough dmg for 5
ancient hound
Yea, I'll be honest, I don't use Lyca myself, but I think she might be your best dps in combination with union boost. Otherwise you could still try Saveas as carry, but then you need a completely other comp. So let me know in that case
viscid hazel
@ancient hound no lyca 
ooof how do you even progress in stages lul
drowsy raptor
viscid hazel
@verbal orbit yw homeboy feel free to tag me if you need advice
pale kettle
should i keep leveling brutus to 180 or level the others up to 150 or 160 first, i feel like with brutus it doesnt make a big difference the next level while my backline dies too fast
viscid hazel
@pale kettle Brutus 180 ain’t that great neither is 181 for him and I guess u are aiming for Shem so I’d say lvl ur backline some you profit with all heroes and also have an easier time in peaks of time
ancient hound
@viscid hazel Brutus/Lucius/Tasi/Nemora/Arden
serene brook
strong basin
stuck at 9-40. any suggestions?
drowsy raptor
please help
viscid hazel
@drowsy raptor that’s super hard stage cause shemira is your dps and grezhul counters her. Also consider overleveling your dps 10-15 lvls over Tanks supports the further u progress the more of a gap there will / should be between dps and tank+sup
hasty night
ty @viscid hazel
ancient hound
@strong basin put your Saveas on front for sure, he can easily tank that. Then use Arden/ Belinda/Athalia in back & Silvina (?) as 2nd front? Honestly you don't have much to put on front
viscid hazel
@ancient hound no shemira? didn’t even consider that one I’ll give it a shot
ancient hound
@viscid hazel No been very unlucky with both Shemira & Lyca. They're E+. I'm pulling only Shemira from lab now
coarse seal
what do i do
viscid hazel
Damn I’m having a run today so many Ty’s
pale kettle
Saveas just go rampage and wipe my team :/
drowsy raptor
my main dps is saveas actually @viscid hazel
ancient hound
@pale kettle Nemora must charm Saveas, keep trying until that works. Make your dps focus the bottom of enemy line-up.
serene brook
Help pls
atomic juniper
please help me ive been stuck on this for so long ;///;
viscid hazel
@drowsy raptor not if he’s only 3 lvls up over everyone else shemira aoe can out dps him
ancient hound
@serene brook Khasos is weaker than Golus, so get Brutus & Saveas to the bottom. Although I'm not sure because of the ascension difference, but I feel like that should work better
viscid hazel
@atomic juniper would u be as kind to post ur full heroes roster so I can help u
atomic juniper
ancient hound
@atomic juniper Brutus to 141 definitely more important than Belinda to 140
serene brook
@Hiker khasos is canceled by fawkes, so i can't kill him at the beginning
pale kettle
@ancient hound Ty, i'll try hard x)
ancient hound
@serene brook try Arden instead of Fawkes then and try to focus on Khasos?
pale kettle
@ancient hound Victory, thx for the tips 😃
viscid hazel
@atomic juniper if you can make Arden epic + consider running him a good line up could look like this
Seirus
Shemira
Arden
Brutus
Athalia
proven finch
Any help?
atomic juniper
ok, thanks a bunch!!
pale kettle
Stuck
tough salmon
What can I do to counter Silvina here??
viscid hazel
@proven finch no lyca no win, jokes aside ur line up kinda is missing 3x faction bonus
Maybe
Arden
Shemira
Kaz
Brutus
Tasi
Could work
ancient hound
@proven finch I'd also get Silvina, Belinda & Arden to 141 and Saveas to 160. But obviously if you can do it without resetting, it's better!
proven finch
Oh thanks
viscid hazel
@pale kettle Tasi for Nemora and Switch Tasi and lyca
ancient hound
I think it would also be interesting to try
Arden
Shemira
Tasi
Saveas
Nemora
@proven finch ; but not sure at all whether it will do okay-ish
viscid hazel
@tough salmon basically nothing. U sacrifice a back line hero, if u have Tasi she can maybe jump away from her and survive.
Furthermore having shemira and hogan on same lvl is not that great I’d spend the 20 gems and reset hogan and get shemira to 120 if possible then ur line up could look like this
Nemora
Shemira
Seirus (unsure) maybe kaz
Hogan
Ira
Then u also have 3x wilders faction bonus
restive tangle
I stuck here :/
wise merlin
@ancient hound Wonderful ☺
karmic plover
Pls save me lineup gods
ancient hound
@restive tangle follow this & focus on leveling Brutus to 101
@karmic plover who does Fawkes catch? Athalia vs Vedan is a waste. Let Athalia take care of Niru.
viscid hazel
@karmic plover did u try
Athalia
Shemira
Tasi
Vedan
Nemora
?
ancient hound
Hahah lol
viscid hazel
Ooooof
wise merlin
😂 😂
viscid hazel
Why didn’t u tell him not to go for L+ hogan; kinda waste of fodder imo @wise merlin