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If it makes you feel better, this is they hell I get to deal with
This is 6-29 of course but i finally got through 6-28 with this team! Super happy, hope this can help others 
Need help with a starting lineup. On 13-20.
Shem brutus front nem arden/tasi lyca back @civic trail
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Whatโs the different here between red and purple? Witch one should I pick ?
@scenic knoll just win using this comp
@muted stream hi do you have a any suggestion?
You should ask in #classic-questions . Red is harder, if you have the right relic and high dps go for it.
Help?
any suggestions for this stage 6-28 pls
https://gyazo.com/2bf6321546c71a156777381836ca4ed1 anyone knwo how to beat this
@quartz scaffold show enemy formation
What team would you recommend me to have as a future plan? (keep in mind that i can easily make nemora mythic + , right now im running Shemira fawks ezizh backline, lucius and the girl in horse frontline
Any help on 11-8 would be appreciated
Started a few days ago, any advice for my best team comp atm and who to put in frontline?
@willow merlin pls help me pass this 6-28
10-20 ant help
Sorry 12-8 any help please
Send help. 8-28
can't get past this regular level. any smart idea? ๐
Numisa vs Nemora, which is better and by how much?
Can someone help me make a better lineup for arena of heroes or is my current lineup the best
Anyway for me to beat this?
@quaint spruce imo tasi is better than fawkes on the arena, coz we can't set fawks ults manually there, and replace ur shem with saveas, because even if she is mythic, she wasn't 161 yet, so, 121 saveas is better
Ok tks
Need help on this formation for 6-16 any thing to do??
@noble hatch easy
lvl up ur lucius to 81 the rest stay at 61
if u got more exp
up ur shemira to 81
use this line up
Lucius Hogan Shemira fakwes tasi
@old egret switch nemora and tasi position
let nemora charm the morvus
he will destroy his own team ๐
Labyrinth stage 3 , 3 more fights, which heroes should I use?
u can use saveas as a carry too
just let the rest stay at 61 and over lvl ur saveas @noble hatch
@noble hatch shemira
Kay Ty
@pale kettle ideally you wanna stick with one team the whole way through labyrinth, that way you can itemise better
@pale kettle are you leveling more than 5 heroes right now? or is brutus blue but im colourblind
Heโs levelling 8 heroes. Donโt think he has crystal unlocked yet
That's in labyrinth
Oh nvm first 2 are blue. Iโm colourblind
lol
hmm then use brut grezhul front with shem ferael nemora back
I can't kill this brutus without losing someone this peaks of time and its driving me insane, because there are about 5 more fights like this, suggestion?
Belinda one shots every single one of them except that piece of crap
try dropping brutus in place of lucius? then belinda in the back? @flint crescent but sometimes you just needa leave the PoT alone and come back later
How do I complete this stage?
@boreal hull kill saveas first
Do i just move saveas top?
yeah and then retry until he dies
should I try and use fawkes for faction and to trap someone?
i think having another wilder support for belinda is better
I can make hogan, Belinda, or Arden legendary. Any suggestions on team comp?
@silver pebble lol ur 5 main heroes already the best team at ur lvl
@pale kettle ok thks, Iโm just hitting the caps soon, so I wasnโt sure
@silver pebble just put them on reso
u can switch with belinda and arden to lvl up ur elite heroes
@pale kettle oh good point. Are the reso heroโs still capped to their current level tho? Like I canโt get Tasi past 100 until elite plus
@silver pebble The resonating Crystal is a unique Feature that allows you to cheat the system, hopefully this little info helps! ^^
@wise merlin oh thatโs awesome, great tip!
@pale kettle thanks for the advice
@silver pebble As you can see I have many E tier heroes in Crystal at level 130+ even though they usually need L tier for it โบ
@wise merlin how ur map progress ?
11-24 I think, let me check again
@wise merlin yah, very useful! U think I should make Arden, Belinda, or Hogan L? Or just keep going focusing on my main team?
Yes. 24
@silver pebble You can't make any of them L.
Arden is of the Wilders Faction.
Belinda and* Hogan are of the Lightbearers faction.
You need 2 E+ Wilders to ascend Arden.
And you need 2 Lightbearers fodder to ascend either Belinda or Hogan.
@wise merlin I think I have enough rares for fodder. Just wasnโt sure if I should save it for better heroes
Oh wait. Nvm. I'm dumb. I would say use Hogan to ascend Belinda if you don't use Hogan, she's a good carry at early-to-mid game
no
belinda suck
@pale kettle 
See this for example
I would honestly use the 6 Morvus to get 3 Rare+ heroes
And then ascend Hogan to E+, and probably use it all up for Belinda.
I would say Lucius if you've had him at E+..
@wise merlin and ascend Belinda? Or save the fodder for Lucius maybe
Getting a Lucius from Tavern is the same odds of a shot in the dark.. It's a pretty uncommon odd, but if you want to keep it that way you can. ^^
u will regret that ๐
from map 9 to 12
alot of crazy silvina
Heyo is this worth it?
@weak fiber Not at all. Keep the fodder for someone else.
Belinda M and Belinda L is no different
She just get an ult repeat and no additional damage, it'd be better to keep the fodder for an Estrilda, Fawkes, Lucius..
Any ideas ??
@wise merlin ty
@wise merlin ok thanks, n Iโll try a few more pulls n decide
@solemn cloud try lvl 100 saveas with the rest heroes lvl 61
@solemn cloud Place Raine instead of Shemira, and maybe Kaz instead of Seirus, since he's not that great early on.
@silver pebble Best of luck to you ^^
@wise merlin its worse than what i could do with the other team ๐
@solemn cloud If Shemira can not use her ult in that lineup then she won't be as useful, place her up against enemies with no immunity so she can gain more energy.
Look at your past formation, keep it that way, but switch Tasi with Shemira, it might help!
Also try several times, Tasi's RNG could clutch the game for you!
@wise merlin ty, will try
Should I reset Brutus and max saveas?
@weak fiber No :x
Instead, I would reset Lyca, and level up Belinda. Solely because of the difference of Ascension tier and current level cap.
@weak fiber yes
i do that and reach map 12 easily
The Resonating Crystal will make it so nothing changes*, and you'll be able to retain your current level cap, eventually, you'll need a 5 L+ tier heroes as main to continue.
lol
saveas lvl 160 with brutus and trio wilder better than belinda ๐
@wise merlin oh I know about that lol it's just at the moment I still haven't hit the level cap and don't want to waste diamonds maybe something will change before then
the rule is maxed out ur main carry
@weak fiber Fair, it's just there as an option for you, no need to rush ^^
Though I don't think resetting Brutus will be a good idea.. it's one of those ways to rush an AFK game and that will make you encounter almost impossible walls...
@pale kettle There's no such rule. It's a made up thing by the community.
The rule is to play, AFK, and grow stronger.
Some people do it by levelling evenly, some do it by whaling, some others do it by maxing* the carry.. many different strategies..
@pale kettlei dont know why but when i use saveas he doesnt shine as everyone says he should
Any idea how to beat this lvl?
@brave gyro
Nem
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca
You need to make sure Kaz gets hit by multiple CC or else she'll rip Shem apart
Best boots on Nemora so she can outspeed the enemy Arden and cause him to root his team
10-32 hardstuck help plz
And yes, you can use a R+ Arden, you need his skills, not levels @brave gyro
@pale kettle drop Vedan, Arden and Tasi, use Saveas, Brutus, Lyca, Numisu and Hogan
But this arden dies instantly:/
Saveas
Hogan
Lyca
Brutus
Numisu
Silvina will be baited onto Numisu as he's the only mage, then she'll be stuck on Brutus while your Saveas kills the enemies
Shemira get root and same story
You need Nemora to charm the enemy Arden or else you won't beat it @brave gyro
@pale kettle https://youtu.be/vw3KhoBXU9E
Wilders are pure rng to pass a lot of the time, you need to get lucky @brave gyro
Ok, but i see enemy arden use skill before nemora
Then put better boots on her @brave gyro
oops wrong link ๐
Not sure if it is my lineup or my levels that is making me fail this stage (13-15)
Help ferael destroys me - 15-40
@mint burrow tasi out, Nem in, you need to charm Ferael
Which relicts @rugged marten
What you got? @pale kettle
So Grace and Eye? @pale kettle
Not working, nemora never cc arden before root and arden dies on 1st attack before his skill
Grace eye and call
You need better boots then, simple @brave gyro
That's how mspd works in this game, and it's exactly how I use Nemora with her charm, worked for me up to chapter 22 so it's definitely correct @brave gyro
@pale kettle grace or Eye on Saveas, The other on Brutus and call doesn't really matter too much because you won't be using a hero that really takes advantage of its ability
But nemora always use it on Kaz
And what to use in arena then @rugged marten
@brave gyro it's rng, with her being up top, she will have a chance to charm either top or back top, just keep trying, that's all you can get
@pale kettle similar team
@rugged marten youre awesome btw, it went exactly the way you told me
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Any tips 11-16 I tried tysa+ardent before instead of Safi and musu
does anyone know how to win this?
@sullen lotus With faction scrolls or normal scrolls?
I was thinking gems, when I started accounts I didnt get any scrolls
As for gems, 10x pulls for 2.7k gems is as worth as it could get, due to both Wish list being active (which isn't as effective as you'd think it is)
And 300 gems less for purchasing 10x pulls while one pull cost 300 each, accumulating to 3,000
ok, thank you
any ideas for 16-40? I used M+ Brutus, M Shemira, L+ Arden, Nemora and Lyca. Soon i can ascend Shemira to Ascended.
@sullen lotus Next time, please do ask those type of questions at #classic-questions ๐ 
@whole bobcat Could you show the might difference and level difference too for a better advice? ^^
does anyone know how to win this?
Been playing a couple of days...which heroes should I be focusing on at the moment?
@livid gale Hello ^^
Before advising anything, could you tell me if you've passed 4-16 just yet, or not?
Thank you in advance ๐
Who can give some advice for new player? stuck at 5-12
Could anyone help Carnage? He asked twice, but idk about that stage
thats beyond my knowlegde ๐
Starting to get desperate. Was so happy beating 9-20 and now stuck on a normal level. Any suggestions?
@wise merlin Iโve just completed it, yes ๐
@wise merlin
@livid gale Well done! ๐
@whole bobcat Will placing Athalia instead of Nemora help? To keep the enemy Nemora busy, and not charming your team?
May i have some advice for this?
I feel like my lineup is starting to fall off. I've been kinda playing by the seat of my pants till now, and I've no idea who to replace (outside of Silvina and Hogan) and who to replace them with
I will try. I saw a video of someone who did it with same line up and positioning like me, but shemira was ascended. I need one elite Niru more and i can get shemira to ascended.
@rose ember get used to getting stuck on each level now ๐ from 9-20 on it becomes way harder. You might want to try Athalia vs Arden, since Arden CC is pain
I did try her against Any1 doesn't change much... Arden ccs... Little girl oneshots... I would need 2 athalia ๐
For PvE early-mid (lvl 100 area) game can eironn front line?
Yes, especially against 2 squishy high-damage carries in enemy backline it's very good
Can somebody help me with this? I seem to struggle to progress any further. Not sure which characters to use and in which line up. I can reset some if needed.
can someone help me for lineup?
@pale kettle check #545929173471068170
How to best counter Ferael? Iโm stuck at 20-12 and floor 207, heโs shutting me down on both. The energy drain is brutal.
Floor 217*
Halp
Stuck at 6-36, been there since yesterday. Any advice on units to use/team comp vs it?
My Frontline is figuratively melting
Im having the same problem on 6-20
Hi guys, what do you think my strongest comp should look like right now?
Also i am pretty close to ascending the sherima again.
Guys worth sacrificing saveas to upgrade brutus and using shemira as main dps? I would use brutus lucius shemira all mythic as my core team!
Stuck at 9-20 no idea what to do next
@steel dune get saveas instead of tasi to 140
Any recommendations?
raine @sonic scroll
Found myself a fun new wall -- of course it's Stage 16-12 so it's a wall from Mythic gear for AFK rewards as well. Any lineup or positioning I might be overlooking?
- Should eironn be played in the front or backline
- Lyca or Eironn in the following lineup: Nemora/Shemira/Tasi/Lucius
@old coyote Ok thanks
Do I have a chance here on 14-38? Iโve tried a handful of lineups but every time just seem to get insta-wiped. ๐ข
@pale kettle I'm basically in the same situation with much the same units. I've been able to coast through much of chapter 14 until I hit 14-38 (although 14-37 was also a pain in the butt).
Yeah, these last few have been a PITA. You still stuck there?
Yup.
Stuck on 12-8 please help
And for reference, here is my lineup for 14-38.
Your Shem is even higher than mine, probably still gets wrecked before she can do anything, right? No matter if I throw her in front of Kaz or Ogi, sheโs just shut down.
If I throw her in the backline and sacrifice Lyca, I can usually get Shem to do her ult. But it's not nearly enough damage to kill any of them and she usually dies within seconds afterwards even with the leeching.
Saaaaame ๐ and sheโs in mostly Mythic gear
I can make Estrilda, Thane or Raine legendary - opinions? This is my current stable of Heroes
Can I have a suggestion here ??
@pale kettle And even though maulers are supposed to be strong against the wilders, Brutus/Saveas/Safiya get WRECKED. They are absolutely no help. I'm at a complete loss with this level.
Yeah, same, like I said, Iโve tried a lot of lineups and no matter what, everyone just ends up dying before being able to do anything useful.
@muted forge It's tempting to level them, but in general you don't really want to sacrifice ascended heroes. It's always surprising when a random hero will be the key to making it through a level.
Howโd you get past 14-38 @pale kettle ? Your heroes arenโt any better than mine except your Shem.
@wraith jungle oh, to clarify I'm not sacrificing any of them, I have Hogan's and other non ascended to sacrifice, but only enough to make one legendary for now.
ok i just beat it ๐
@pale kettle I hear ya'. I've even tried bizarre combinations and put sacrificial lambs in the front line, but no success. I know there's a trick to getting through, but I'm at a loss.
@pale kettle @wraith jungle I am running same line ups but my heroes are way under yours -- you should be making sure Shem is 180 before everyone else comes up to 160 save maybe Brutus to 161. Shem will carry you hard if she's out leveling everything else on the board.
@pale kettle i used shemira brutu tasi arden lyca
@muted forge Ah, okay. In that case... Thane can be a force of nature if you get him past 141. Raine can be situationally useful, and Estrilda is damn good if you gear her right. I would say it all depends on what you need (DPS, debuffer, or "tank", respectively.) Again, just my two cents.
Oh.... I was trying to bring everyone to 160, to make my lineups for arena and legends tourney easier
I beathave 16-40 with this formation
I basically went from chapter 12 to 16 with a 180 Shem and a bunch of 141s
Daaaaamn, should I just reset all my 157โs then?
@frigid veldt Huh. Do you recommend that I resest my heroes then to get Shem to 180? I've been doing the same as @pale kettle and getting units to 160 to compliment my Shem at 175.
@wraith jungle I think 175 is fine. This is my heroes now -- stuck at 16-12
get shemira to 180 and use duras call on TAsi
@wraith jungle maybe I should hold off until I have a spare elite+ of one of them so I can take them straight to L+
use thoran not brutus.. cause thoran has a small CC after his reborn.. plus he does dmg while people are hitting him
Who should I ascend ?
Word, thanks for the advice guys. Gonna try to reset and see how far I can get Shem up with the rest at 141...
@pale kettle I'll give that a shot. Thank you. I'll probably have some juice leftover to at least get some of the units above 141 after I get Shem to 180.
@muted forge I'm not sure there's much value in waiting, to be honest. If you are sacrificing a Hogan, I say go for it. That dude has been absolutely useless to me, personally.
Now if anyone can help me with my lineup ๐
@pale kettle Doing the same thing. We'll have to compare notes afterwards. ๐
@wraith jungle it took a lot of tries so you know but put Duras call on Tasi for fast sleep... and get them at least 157
@sage sand shemira, nemora, and saveas
Tasi is basically getting one shot right now by Silv -- doesn't even get a chance to proc her teleport
@frigid veldt put Arden instead of nemora
@pale kettle And then pray for Tasi? Lol
@frigid veldt you can also tank with nemora and replace brutus with arden
Need recommandations please ! Stuck 8-8
@oblique stone it's ok to use the ones I have available as fodder?
@pale kettle @pale kettle @frigid veldt After resetting heroes, I got Shem to 180 and everyone else at 152 except for Tasi who is still at 161. I put Dura's call on Tasi. I definitely last longer now, but I'm still getting trounced. I'm lucky if I kill one of them before they run me over. I'll keep rearranging and will probably end up just mashing the hell out of "try again".
I need some help to make a decision here. I can use ogi and arden as fodder to make tasi L. I'm using arden atm but I can put nemora on the crystal. In that case I'd use hogan until I get another nice tank, possibly wilder too
@wraith jungle send me your line up in private
Currently using:
Arden
Ogi
Ulmus
Tasi
Shemira
Any ideas on how to beat this on the screenshots above
@dark lake try greazul istead of brutus !!
@polopipos thanks I can get grezul up to 200 now
@dark lake and istead of nemora put arden....or tank with nemora and replace brutus with arden in your back line.... but give gear to arden so Tasi has the lowest defence
How do I beat this team?
This is labyrinth and I just put top five in not saying thatโs my best team
Please help - stuck 8-8
Awesome, good to know. Let me know ASAP if you end up beating it @wraith jungle ๐ I still havenโt reset yet, had to get ready for work.
@pale kettle So @pale kettle just got me through! In a truly bizarre twist, Thoran was my secret weapon even though he's only E+. I had Thoran and Lyca front line, with Shem/Tasi/Arden in the back line. It was DAMN close, and I got a very lucky heal from Shem, but I ended up getting through. Woot woot!
Awesome, my Thoran is L+, but has shit gear. Will give that a try
@pale kettle My Thoran was in blue gear, so I don't think that matters much. I think it's just the fact that he dies and resurrects, so he's a double sacrificial lamb.
Need some suggestions on who to use for these stages (11-32 and Kings Tower Floor 141).
Here are my heroes.
@restive burrow Picture of relics?
Should I wait or use Ulmus as fodder?
Need some advice
@fleet kernel Ulmus is god tier at level 200+, depends if you're going to be playing that late in the game lol
I think I will be
@royal mirage thank you for giving me hope for Ulmus I really like him as a unit.
@indigo jolt
@restive burrow I meant the relics from within the labyrinth.
Itโs not so much a lineup help as itโs could I power through with shemira now to 100 with everyone at lvl 60?
Been stuck here for quite some time
@pale kettle And just for the record, once I got through 14-38, I was able to finish up chapter 14. Woot! Took a little rearranging of units, but wasn't a huge problem. With the free Brutus, I know have him mythic.
Oh that makes more sense ๐
How can I pass this stage? Iโm stuck here almost a month.
@fading gull early he's bad, but late him he's unkillable lol
Any tips?
@elfin cargo that stage is a wall
Iโll definitely build for him then
@spring quarry on what ? ๐
@royal mirage hard wall I think.
And I would think by that point you NEED faction boost all the time
@fleet kernel Wait, Ulmus is improved now.
@restive burrow Do you have Tasi?
@elfin cargo https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/bywr7o/you_thought_920_was_bad_i_present_you_214/
@royal mirage have been stuck here for some time so im wondering if i could do anything better in a line uo
@elfin cargo Brutus to 220, Brutus shemira and 3 wilders and you good
25 seconds of nothing from them Is Very good and banishing the strongest enemy is REALLY useful
@spring quarry I think you should just wait and upgrade your heroes, get a Fawkes if you can for that brutus
Ok, thx
No tasi, @indigo jolt this is my roster plus thoran and skreg from labyrinth
@royal mirage can you help me out please
sup ?
@restive burrow from early game experience so around this lvl thoran at Legendary is the most tankiest member I have on the team
Itโs not so much a lineup help as itโs could I power through with shemira now to 100 with everyone at lvl 60? @royal mirage NOT epic+
You want to rush Shemira to 100 ? Well I would suggest getting everyone up together, 20 levels each. So get everyone to level 81 one at a time, then everyone to 101 one at a time .. etc, while focusing on Shemira to upgrade first. Shemira > everyone else
Ok
Any tips for 11-36?
So atm itโs ill advised
Is this doable? I seem to lack something. Any suggestions? This is 15-40
@slim stone mythic lucius ๐ข lucky you
Iโm speechless
The team is now flowing so much better I put duras call on Ulmus and changed shemira and nemoras lvls
@slim stone Fairly sure others have mentioned you need nemora to charm fareal on that level.
@indigo jolt nice ty. Switch her for raine or fawkes?
Help? Can I even pass it with what I have?
@slim stone Try both, id drop raine first, as fawkes casket will be handy.
@olive thorn it worked,. thx! (16-40)
@indigo jolt doesnt seem to help me... everything just dies too fast
I even have 5 artefacts. And nemora only targets grezhul
Try nemora on bottom.
Iโm just looking for some basic lineup advice on who to build up so anything helps
Ascend Saveas, he's really good
@slim stone u need to charm ferael with nemo
and do'nt play a full lightbear against undead when u have possibility to play other
For you I'd probably use Brutus, Saveas, Seirus, Arden, Numiso
@nimble sentinel ^^^
Okay thanks
Who shall I use
@green adder Hello dear Adventurer.
You seem to be coming up really early into the game, right now, the current team you have will do best for you, keep on grinding, AFKing and levelling up until reaching the Resonating Crystal. (4-16/20)
Your current formation should look pretty basic;
Ira / Vedan
Lucius / Warek
Mirael
Warek / Lucius
Vedan / Ira.
Hope this helps!

Thank you
Hey can someone help me make a team? I just got shemira mythic thatโs why sheโs not highest
@slim stone well you are toast by graveborn... can you show me your heroes
@stiff kraken Hello! ^^
Your formation really depends on which faction you're going against and their defense stats, Dodge abilities, crowd control, and healing.
Shemira does best vs healer / shield heroes.
Nemora does best against high DPS heroes.
Arden does best against healthy tanks, and strong backlines..
@stiff kraken bcs of lvl differanve.. if i were you i would reset belinda back to 141 and lvl shemira up
@wise merlin this is what Iโm stuck on right now
@stiff kraken As for your default lineup, I'd put the following;
Saveas / Shemira / Athalia
Hogan / Brutus
Nemora / Fawkes / Arden / Athalia
Lucius / Brutus
Isabella / Numisu / Saveas
@stiff kraken Try one of the mentioned formations, prioritize Athalia (If you're placing her) up against Niru.
she will be dealt the least amount of damage that way and survive more.
@frank wigeon put brutus aside... he is not that good before 141. Use lucius, saveas, tasi, nemora, and try differenr combos for 5th..
Athalia will die in 2 seconds in that lvl... she works best after 161 ascended
Good info ^^
@wise merlin the first one just gets slapped not strong enough
You guys have it under control here
Brutus without haste at 141 and life leach is tank that last 7 seconds XD without dmg
@stiff kraken your last pic looks good.. but reset belinda lvl to 141 and lvl up shemira
@violet pecan will do
Shemira should solo everything at 180lvl
And if you have enough dust lvling up everyone to 141 should be your priority rn
Help
@next magnet shemira lyca arden tasi nemora.. is the best thing you can do for your shemira... but i think it wont work
@violet pecan all I want is a team with Lucius shemira and Fawkes my 3 fave
Recommendations?
use brutus
@stiff kraken i would relly on fawkes that much man... it is hard for me to make you better team with 3 of them.... you lack CC to help shemira.... i would use fawkes in PVE against brutus or PVP if enemie have single carry heroe highes lvl.... rn you can relly on shemira to carry you if you give her right equipment and support her with CC and shield until she can cast her ulty...
@violet pecan Iโve been doing this and itโs working so far
@obsidian cypress if you have enough dust but not enough exp.. reset hogan and ira to 141 and lvl everyone up to 141... than use Brutus with lucius
@stiff kraken yea.. it is good set up.. just put saveas in bottom fawkes mid and shemira top with lucius.. and hogan 2nd positio
@wise merlin what do you think?
@violet pecan Hm? What's that question regarded to? Sorry, I've lost track ๐
This is where Iโm stuck now @violet pecan
I made it 12 levels
@stiff kraken swap lucius and higan
They don't even take dmg wtf
They are just not strong enough I die too quick especially hogan @violet pecan
@grizzled lodge you shoul have used ulmus instead od brutus...
Ulmus estrilfa saveas thane estrilda nexr time... and use better artifacts... cant help you now....
ok thanks
How should I better lvl my heroes ??
You need HP regen in lab fights
@solemn cloud tasi arden saveas hogan and ira or athalia
@solemn cloud Max out Saveas first.
I need help again, I'm stuck
any ideas?
@hasty dawn looks good, doesnt work early game ๐
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It will work after 141 whem brutus get haste and life leach
@grizzled lodge swap brutus for hogan...
Damn Iโm always stuck at non boss fights chap 14 any ideas?
@violet pecan nothing i can do now except wait?
ok thanks
@viscid hazel
Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi
@hasty dawn pm me with all of your heroes
@viscid hazel 200k+ deficit... you must pray to RNG god
Lol ya Iโm progressing steadily by trying different formations and rngesus ๐ Iโll keep on praying kinda seems to work if I get in few tries ty
Been stuck here for a while now
Any ideas?
Got Ulmus today, should I replace someone with him?
@pale kettle If you're talking about resetting & putting resources into him, then no, keep it that way until you've unlocked the Resonating Crystal! ^^ (Level 4-16/4-20, I believe!)
Depends on level @pale kettle but Iโd go with Hagon
Hogan?
May i know what i lack or what i can improve on this lineup?
@burnt dust Definitely level increase.. level 66 is critically low to handle such levels, once you're at level 77-80, give it a few more several tries, hope for the best crits, and Lucius ult!
Okayy thank you very mucchhhhh ๐

any suggestions for this stage 6-28 pls
@quartz scaffold You're just giong to have to wait till you get stronger man. You're too low in attack rating and don't have the right characters for facing a 10k plus rating just ganna take time.
any suggestions? im at 9-20 https://gyazo.com/91a53d8aacf9ae234b0fb1250b318fdb https://gyazo.com/0dee2a18426c290befd6f6ca12bfac4b
should i use a warek elite+ and golus elite+ to level my brutus elite+??
@tropic hinge #classic-questions
Stage name:Trials of the Forest
Only allowed to use wilders heroes
Peak of time:Secrets of the Forest
@tropic hinge and no dont use warek to ascend brutus, warek is pretty useful later on
keep getting owned cuz the nemoras keep healing
thank you
@quaint spruce you can use other heroes to lower their health then use full wilder to finish the job it still counts
OHHHH @obsidian ember FK WHY I NEVER THINK OF THAT UR HOT I LOVE YOU I WOULD BLOW U THANKS SO MUCH I FINALLY CAN GET MY ARTIFACT IM SO DUMB
What can i do
cant seem to kill vedan. any ideas?
@burnt knot I was just about to post for help for this level lol. Let me know if you pass it
Alright, I'm building a Graveborn Team, out of
Shemira Elite
Grezhul Elite+
Saveas Elite
Thoran Elite
Nemora Elite
I've got Nara now, shall I use her instead of Saveas or shall I wait until I'll get Baden?
Or is Nara a better Tank than Thoran?
My Goal in the end is to have a full Graveborn Team to get the full bonus and they all have pretty good Selfsustain so I'm hoping I'm not in need of a Healer.
@shy galleon Hello! ^^
Have you received an answer yet? If not, do let me know by pinging!
@wise merlin you know what line up I should aim for?
@coral solar Greetings Adventurer. ^^
I would replace Nemora with Saveas as Mirael will be targetting Nemora and slowly peeling her off, preventing her charm and further team support.
If that doesn't work, I'm afraid you must break your level cap and ascend to 141! The global ability break to all of your Crystalized heroes will be a massive bump up! (Especially considering your enemies are above 141 and already HAVE that ability break and ascension advantage!)
Alright thanks
@hot holly I would start by doing a cleanup in your heroes by ascending the ones you can
Can't ascend anything of what I use atm. (don't have their elite counterparts to create e+)
I see that you can ascend hogan And lvling up your stronger heroes and putting the rest in crystal so you can get extra lvls
Like why do you have eirron L lvl 1 lol
@hot holly Please do be patient as you're reading this, nevermind the names, the last 2 paragraphs are the ones that matter. ^^ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587309016322146337/Screenshot_2019-06-06-10-18-54-989_com.discord.png
Recently removed from the crystal since I've been facing Brutus a lot lately. Using eiron against Brutus usually wrecked my team.
Thank you @wise merlin ,if I understand correctly you're suggesting to use different heros of e+ to bypass the level cap of the 100s?
@hot holly Yes, exactly! use your current highest level capped heroes, not the ones you use the most! It's a common mistake that happens so there's no blame here! ^^ You're doing great, keep going strong!!
@wise merlin Hi, not yet i havent.
@coral solar I have 3 lvl 1 Legendaries because I forgot thrice after every week of getting a graveborn legendary that I have to ascend a L+ shemira with a E+ instead of a L HAHAHA so I keep ascending graveborn heroes E+ to L without realising
@shy galleon Hello!
Allow me to redirect you to the Pinned messages, where there's about 4 pages of a Guide written solely by @pale rover , She's put alot of effort into it and it massively helped me when I was at that stage, give it a shot! ๐
Will do, thank you!
@quaint spruce that doesnโt matter it gives you good fodders for late game to ascend better heroes ๐
True
Itll be easier for you to get mythics etc
but the problem is I only can get graveborn mythics and the only good graveborn hero is Shemira ๐ญ
@quaint spruce Ferael is better than Shemira at the very late game (Ascended tier, level 220)
I donโt see any players using ferael tho
@quaint spruce PvE specifically, Ferael outperforms Shemira ๐ and by late-late game I'm talking about chapters 24+
oh wowww Iโm not even close Iโm only chapter 9 haha maybe in the future when I alr have good ascended tier heroes
๐ Same, I'm not that far ahead of you.. Just 11-24
Who should I use in my lineup?
I would take off golus and use either mirael or niru @drowsy cedar
Saveas would be a good option
Okay so Hogan and who else on front row?
@wise merlin can you check my deck and tell me what to do
@stiff wedge Very soon, no worries. ^^
okay thanks
@stiff wedge Okay, I'm ready now, Feel free to share your hero roster and your formation vs the enemy, and I'll be more than happy to assist you! ๐
@stiff wedge Swap Fawkes for Tasi, it'd help you much more!
Think you could get enough dust to level up Shemira to 161? Once you will, try and swap her in with Belinda, she could do better overall damage. ^^
hmm okay let me do that
Help me @wise merlin
@willow merlin Hello friend, how've you been doing today? 
Please do take your time on reading this as it'll help you in the future. (The only reason I'm putting it up now is because it will save you the cooldown, and help you with future level caps)
@wise merlin ahh i see need more level right?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/445938066360762368/588770338784149514/Screenshot_20190613-184220.jpg
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Need tips badly pls help or do i just level up again?
No ^^ you need to swap out your focused heroes currently and put ones that at a Higher ascension tier in the focus, that way you'll be able to put the Crystal into good use while utilizing it's cooldowns well! doing it this early in the game is recommended before you'll hit a massive wall due to a level cap on Crystal.
Iโll move over to here so youโre not having to speak in both channels
@fading gull Thank you for being considerative. ๐
I need a very important question answered with the summon I just end up getting.
Does this change everything? All of these units are JUST about epic+ except shemira. @wise merlin
Saveaus is ALMOST Legendary so he would ATM do more damage than balinda Right at the same tier?
@fading gull Yes, you're right, he would deal far more damage, especially once he's at level 121, his peak is then ^^
I can DEFINITELY get him to 121 RIGHT now also side note should I save my gems now or just spend them again? @wise merlin GEMS
How should i better keep my heroes lvl ???
@fading gull Gems? or Labyrinth coins?
Any suggestions for 16-4 ?
So the new line up will be Brutus Saveaus Thoran 121 shemira and Fereal 101 correct @wise merlin and yes ๐ Iโm forever Saving my coins for shemira
Best lineup what I have already? And what can I add or remove later?
@fading gull I would focus all of my gems at 10x pulls until I've reached 5 ascended tier heroes.
Buying Shemira from lab is optional however. ^^
@fading gull Ferael could be replaced with other heroes for now, he will always underperform other heroes until level 221+
Thoran... could always have a better replacement.
He might be useful due to his resurrection, but doesn't have good enough sustain to keep backline well supported as his kit in-of-itself isn't the greatest
@fading gull I don't understand what you've meant by the 160+ question, if you could specify, it'd help me alot. ^^
Iโll be back later today
Sorry if I asked over other people๐
@uneven kettle No problem! ๐ I'm currently trying my best to cope with both channels as one and it slowly seems to be working, Soon enough (hopefully) I'll be available to answer, thank you so much for being so patient! ๐
Ok so I switched around some people based on advice I got here, seems better. I think it's just ogi's level holding me back right now, time will tell
@uneven kettle Currently, the default lineup I can think of would be this;
Nara / Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
Estrilda / Thoran
Shemira / Nara
But you'll always have to face different factions and of different ascension tiers, sometimes, you'll going to have to rely on other heroes who might be lower to carry on further! (Happened to me countless of times. ๐ )
I would like to thank you again for not rushing me and patiently waiting ^^
It truly means a lot 
@wise merlin thank you so much, no worries at all! I was gonna replace the horseman with brutus when I get him and the other graveborn I have with the fairy one when I got her but wasnt sure if that would be a good lineup, just done basic studying
you seem smart lol any advice on my lineup @wise merlin
@random verge Try this formation;
Tasi
Hogan
Mirael
Lyca
Nemora
Allowing a 3-2 faction bonus, granting 15% bonus HP and 15% bonus ATK rating, thouroughly allowing Hogan and Mirael to survive further and deal more damage!
Try your best to get Vedan out of the picture. If Silvina kills Tasi too quickly, swap Tasi for Thane, granting a 3-2 LB - Wilder faction bonus, keeping the same bonus, but just relying on more DPS.
Ye I don't like vedan too much but need him for resonating :(
Try several times due to the fact that Nemora, and Tasi are RNG and sometimes the current result isn't the best!
Alright I will try, thank you very much :)
You're very much so welcome. โบ I wish you best of luck!
Unsure of what heroes I should use now. Been using Brutus - Lucius - Nemora - Shemira - Belinda so far. Should I replace any of them for Vedan/Saveas? Or someone else?
@wise merlin that lineup worked second try, thank you thank you :)
@random verge You're very much so welcome, Adventurer, best of luck further on! ๐
Is this my best shot or would replacing Tasi/fawkes help?
have you tried arden
16-16 is abusing me both emotionally and physically. Suggestions on lineup?
because your heroe lvl is very low... what is your gear like
Silvina kills arden straight away and tasi is random depending on where she teleports to. @verbal sierra
your lvl is good for the stage what is your gear like? try swapping some gear on arden see if he survives enough to cast tangle
if not then your best chance is to swap to silvina - also put belinda top side she has bonus damage vs maulers she is not hitting much bottom side
@frigid veldt Maybe if u reset khasos estrilda and lyca lvl and use that xp on brutus, i clear that level with the same back lane at lvl 141 and shemira Lucius 180
Best loadout for Soren?
@minor wedge put that in #classic-questions
Ok sorry, wasnt sure if it would fit in here or not. Thanks!
Hello, I am fairly new to this game and I am currently stuck at 8-40 - I have been testing out different tacts and champs and I can make a character 121 or several characters 101. what to choose? ๐ฎ
Make saveas 121
and nemora 121 is also good if you can later on
Get tasi-nemora-kaz-brutus-saveas and you are ready to go
Suggestions please
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi/Belinda
Grezhul
Nemora
@shrewd estuary make them 101
i actually like nemora up front, real taky and gets heal off more often
So Arden>Shemira?
early game
You need cc
Thanks for all the tips mates, I tried 121 savaes, my frontline wasnt strong enough to handle it (yet). I think Ill go with 101 most of them. Nemora tank sounds crazy(she is just a little horse) ๐ฎ
@dire radish give me SS from start positions
@lusty nimbus
Arden top bel mid saveas bot
Should I replace mirael with numisu(resetting khasos to upgrade him ) 8-24 stuck
Swap estrilda to khasos
@lusty nimbus
What should i focus on for now?
After swapping some gear and artifacts around and trying maybe 20 more times... got it without resetting @wraith jungle !!!
Thoughts on my current lineup, any heroes that I should ascend or level up from the ones that I got right now? Currently 8-16
Okay so hereโs the ss again and switching out fereal for Isabella or another mauler what would yโall suggest?
Iโll be back later today to see the reply Iโm at work
@coral solar lyca off estrilda front and saveas back
Or you can try to swap lyca to ezizh
@viscid ivy you are 121 lvl he is giving you the set up that wont work... 2 agility heri wont work... brutus is useless before 141... dont use it... use
Saveas
Thoran
Isabella
Grezhul
Belinda
Or if you need some CC swap belinda for Tasi
@loud halo saveas 61 and mirael 60
If someone could help a man out, that would be quite nice. I'm on 9-20
@fading gull for what purpose
Ok I made it so tasi gets targeted instead of nemora(cause she just teleports away) but still can't quite win. Any ideas?
@digital current Got through 9-20 yesterday with the team I posted a second ago. I'm stuck on 9-32 now. I basically had a lot of crowd control. Just had to repeat it until the right targets got hit at the right time.
Thank you @lusty nimbus
@loud halo and try to get saveas ascended further
Anyone have advice on how to beat the one I posted?
hey
Ill try, if rng is on my side @lusty nimbus
wonder if somone could give me a hand
Guys, I've been stuck here for more than a week now, any tip?
Swap brutus to warek or golus
can somone DM me to give me a little help please
@iron dome try swapping arden to Belinda you need more dps
@random verge swap lyca to golus or try with
Lyca
Golus
Tasi
Hogan
Nemora
I'll try that thanks @lusty nimbus
Stuck on 8-16 any help would be appreciated
@lusty nimbus Warek works better,but Grezhul gets destroyed so I still can't do it
Umm swap grezhul top and saveas top
Can someone help me with my line up
@fossil sonnet try Arden Brutus instead of Nemora and hogan go like this
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
Oneshot estrilda and Angelo and hope for the best @orchid delta
@viscid hazel thanks I'll give it a shot
@orchid compass i would kinda aim for Belinda Lucius Saveas for later game
I'll show u how I got my lineup here in a sec
@orchid compass for now Iโd go for something like
Belinda
Lucius
Mirael
Vedan
Saveas
U can also swap vedan for hogan for 4x light faction
@fossil sonnet give it few tries to and swap Arden around and hope for lucky roots
I need some help with updating my lineup.
@orchid compass why do you have multiple leveled Belindas o_o
@orchid compass yeah decent I guess but not really good for later
you can try to swap grezhul for brutus he at least survives 7 second ๐
Good lineup for this fight?
@lusty nimbus Brutus online carries cause of his immunity 
all your tanks blow up against khasos saveas atm @orchid delta
how can I beat this?
@viscid hazel yeah, thats the best bet at that point xD
I dont have anything I can use for a healer
@strange lion thatโs 15-16 right
can you not buy a Nemora from Labyrinth shop?
Yes lol how do u recognize that
@viscid hazel my Arden dies before he can root
@strange lion guess my stage pls only one try tho
Hahah
Help with 10โ36
@maiden quest that hero is called Nemora right 
Lol du bist deutsch. Genau nemora und shemira lohnen sich das solltest du ja wissen eig
Ooof trash panda hat gefragt ob man die kaufen kann
Hi, should I just wait for some more levels or do you guys think there is a way for me to pass it with what I have? I have tried this comp with diffรฉrent positioning. Also is it normal that Estrilda always seem really squishy?
@fossil sonnet did u try Nemora instead of Arden? And switch her around to get good charm
@pallid widget 1. why donโt u have shemira? 2. why is Tasi not leveled? 3. why is Fawkes not leveled? 4. U can pass it I guess if u use Tasi or Fawkes for his cc 5. I would not use Athalia on spider girl
@viscid hazel same problem, I guess I just need more levels to try it out again
Made the mistake of getting Nemora I suppose :/ they are not leveled because I don't have the compos
@fossil sonnet Can happen not everything beatable just by using different formations/heroes
@pallid widget donโt u habe more than ohne Spot in crystal?
@lusty nimbus Tried a lot of matches like this. Just too squishy now
Ah I do have two spots, but I thought they would get shredded at 76
@pallid widget Iโd try Tasi and swap out Nemora. Lots of people without shemira have dmg problems with support Backlines tho
hello hello, I need some uhh hopefully help with 11-40
@iron dome put bel in the middle and (swap shem top lucius bot not too sure if that goes horribly wrong or not ๐ )
OK thanks for the help @viscid hazel
@iron dome does Arden root 2 people on 101? Then use him instead of Belinda
@pale kettle post all ur heroes?
@lusty nimbus Basically whoever goes in front of Vedan gets shredded
@iron dome shemira too? Try
Arden
Lucius
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora
that was the starting lineup @viscid hazel
Ooof then I donโt think u win ๐
Haha trying the Belinda one now
oof
if frontline get one popped theres no hope and after they survive need more damage or niru + vedan will outlast that comp :/
What do you guys think is my best lineup?
@pale kettle only thing I see that could work
Nemora
Shemira
Arden
Thoran
Athalia
I'll try ๐
Any lineup suggestions?
@tough salmon I think u wasted heroes to get hogan and ira legendary
Yet best lineup
Nemora
Shemira
Isabella
Hogan
Silvina
Maybe ira for Nemora
@summer magnet depends on the stage u are fighting
12.7 atm
Can u post a pic?
^
sure gimme a sec
allways post a pic with stage enemies + your heroes when asking help ^^
@ all ppl in line up pls get this hero first in labyrinth store ty

@summer magnet put Shemira in front (near vedan) and swap Estrada for Lyca maybe for the haste
I guess
Estrilda
Shemira
Lyca
Lucius
Belinda
Can Lucius or shemira survive vedan Saveas?
not really my team kinda melts ^^
Maybe not at that level. Shemira not as great from 141-160 but after 161 she is way stronger
@viscid hazel well I think it's a lost cause for me ๐ 
@viscid hazel @lusty nimbus This actually seems to have potential
I would swap fareal for Raine
You will get faction bonus and her ultimate boosts shemiras dps a lot
@pale kettle Only thing I can say keep playing and heroes u should aim for: shemira, Brutus, Tasi, Nemora, lyca, Arden, lucius most important once imo
@near sundial I'll give that a shot, thanks!
@iron dome who does Fawkes cage?
Farael is basically my higher DPS Arden with the fear. And the energy drain somewhat helps
@viscid hazel Vedan. And tasi saved her ability for Vedan as well. Basically trying to keep him off the field
Arden is good when he roots 3 ppl can basically carry u to 2 times ur actual power
@viscid hazel short question is it worth to go for a Raine upgrade ? was thinking bout
Fawkes
Estrilda
Raine
Lucius
Belinda
Yeah every strategy I've had is 100% CC
@viscid hazel it's not like I'm not aiming for those heroes, I just never get them ๐ my past two purples I got from a x10 have been shemira though which is nice
Itโs all luck of the draw
@summer magnet Raine is no good Hero
I disagree. Raine is amazing boost
@near sundial @pale kettle keep playing youโll get them love this line up
Wich hero would be good in this comp or is my thought just not good at all ? Idk when my shemira will be 161+ need one more copy of her to go legendary+ and than yeah i need more xD
I have all those heroโs.
@viscid hazel I'll try that for a while
Only problem with putting Fawkes in the top spot is he puts Vedan in front of him after the cage ends, so Shem gets triple teamed
I use this settup more than anything else now
@near sundial kinda nice to have all those but kinda meh cause itโs like the best setup in game sometimes with Arden or Lucius
@near sundial I didnโt think Lyca had the survivability for front line?
She doesnโt. She only needs to be there for the haste then she can die. @plucky flint
@near sundial is it Worth it to sacrifice Saveas to make Brutus from mythic to ascended?
I've been beating my head against this. Trying equal levels, a couple higher leveled, bunch of different comps using diamonds at rickety. Am I just too under leveled or is there anything I can do to advance? Stage 4 36. If I level all my heroes equally they end up around lvl 45 to 50. My front line gets obliterated no matter which heroes I try to put there.
Ditch fire girl and use tasi for cc
@sick creek wtf is this lvl 1?
@viscid hazel keep Sav around till you have a 2nd one, he is a really usefull hero
I reset them. And tried different comps recommended with only 2 or 3 leveled. Normally they're all 45 to 50 like I said
I guess yet the only use for him I see is mauler kings tower
If you level him to 121 he can carry your team better than Brutus early on
@sick creek jproxy is Right best bet is Belinda hogan Angelo or mirael estrilda and Tasi
His auto attack damage scales absurdly fast for leveling
What I have vs. what I am up against. Any ideas to deal with assassin just killing my backline everytime? I have an open slot in my crystal to try stuff out
@near sundial fell in love with shemira since epic when I first bought her and now Iโm kinda reaching all 160s
saveas is best carry till 141
Shemira is ok before 161 but after 161 she gets a crit boost and itโs nuts OP
And Brutus unlocks hp regen at 161 iirc also super OP
@viscid hazel @near sundial so ditch fire girl and use tasi / level them all equally? Thank you very much for the reply
Ye I know my shemira is 171 and Iโm definitely not swapping for Saveas ๐ I guess I already passed the part to let Saveas Carry me

@sick creek I would level Belinda higher than the rest since she will be your main source of DPS for now
Any advice on lineup changes? Haven't been lucky with tank pulls
@sick creek either Angelo or mirael whatever works better and ya lvl ur main dps higher than Tanks supports kinda like 10 -15 lvls is my recommendation
@main rapids Saveas and Lucius can tank dank
Lucius dies pretty quick at the moment, hes only epic
No you should Keep Angelo for the CC and healing
how long does it usually take to beat 9-20?
Idk if my current lineup is optimized fully, other f2p players I know have gone further than me and I'm trying to figure if it's my lineup or what.
@maiden quest from start or when u reach it and get stuck
either I guess; I've been playing for about 2 weeks
I didnโt get hung up on 9-20 so I guess I was lucky, but a lot of people were there for over a week
I feel like dust comes so slowly so I haven't been able to break the 121 barrier very well :/
@near sundial like this? Little short of 5th 41. Edit forgot pic fuck
@sand aspen i would go Hogan, Estrilda up front with Arden, Nemora, tasi in the back imo
Any tips for 8-36 ?
@maiden quest just buy dust from shop daily and you'll get through that
Ya
Thanks @chilly prism I'll give it a shot
@remote thunder swap hogan for Brutus and swap kahsos with Arden
Any better lineup options here? Feel like Im stuck till i level up more
@remote thunder Brutus Brutus Brutus
U tried
Khasos
Baden
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
?
Khasos good for 3x faction bonus tho 
@near sundial I will be going afk for resources. Even with the comp you gave me I cant last any time at all I believe I am just outmatched. Thank you though I will try the comp out again later.
@plucky flint get rid of that graveborn tank he sucks, put Sav up front but put hogan in front of enemy Brutus. Add Arden to backline
Or tasi if she can survive long enough to ultimate
arden is better at those stages
Arden + RNGesus can get you through a lot of stages that don't have a backline assassin like Athalia or Silvina
Yeah I think your right
Any ideas?
any suggestions?
@dry seal Level up your carry (I'm a little unsure of who it is for you) to 145 first, levelling evenly isn't the best strategy in a game like this. :x
@wise merlin thank you. Any recommendation on a carry?
@strong basin don't use Thoran; brutus in front and then use Arden
Probably Brutus
@dry seal how u have both graveborns mythic
but Iโd use grezhul instead of Tasi
@strong basin Hello. ^^
Swap Brutus with Estrilda, and instead of Raine, put Arden, he'll be proven useful with his damage shield and roots, maybe being lucky enough to root Angelo twice.
oh, right, forgot faction advantage on a 5-man lightbringer
@dry seal I would say Nara since she's also your highest tier available, saving time of having to level her up to 200 on the way, prioritize next; Brutus, Isabella, Bedan, then Tasi.
Stuck at 11-40
@strong basin
Arden
Estrilda
Shemira
Brutus
Belinda
@wise merlin thanks again
@dry seal Anytime friend 
Any suggestion to clear 15-40?
@heavy lark I canโt see all ur heroes but with the ones I see
Fawkes
Estrilda
Tasi
Lucius
Saveas
Or swap Fawkes for Belinda
@near sundial that worked on the third try. Thank you!
๐
@viscid hazel posted all
@weary blade screenshot of the enemy in question please
@near sundial
@heavy lark still the same I guess u can swap out Tasi for lyca as well if u need more energy to get ult cycle off
LOOL 
@weary blade
@weary blade you need some wilders home boi :/
Yeah got really poor luck on wilder...

Move nemora around in lineup till she charm the right person I guess
I used tasi/Lyca/nemora(brutus/Shemira) for this stage
Like most stages lmao
what stage would you need to start having mythics?
@flat steppe i think i had my shemira at around 12 not sure those
I find myself stuck on 13-12 with 1 mythic but that's cos it's mythic fawkes which isn't the best. Rest of my team is legendary+ savaes, belinda and legendary brutus, lucius
Uhm
13 was a Hard chapter I think but 14 is easy if you use shemira cause a lot of light heroes
@flat steppe
I'm one lucius and brutus away from making them leg+ or even mythic, i'm 1 shemira away from mythic
@ancient nest Tasi is Support no need to lvl her first there is basically no use lvl ur carrys first Iโd say ferael and eiron and tanks and supports kinda like 10-15 lvls under ur carrys
@viscid hazel @lusty nimbus
@viscid hazel oh alright thanks
@ancient nest of you can make Arden elite itโs pretty nice for later game and u can go 3 wilders with hogan and ferael if u put eiron in front
@viscid hazel more like an hour and a half. I have the video, I record the replay of all of the extremely hard ones. This is probably the biggest RNG one I've had yet, though. Lucius had like 3 HP at one point
What I am now against vs what I have. Any ideas where to go from here?
@pale rover I was told that you're the person to ask about 9-20. I read the guide, but I don't have many of the heros. What do you think I should do with a team with these heros
@chilly prism pick one carry and use more CC. Arden/ Nemora
@chilly prism Please do take your time while reading this, in addition to what's mentioned above ^
Disregard the names of the heroes, the last 2 paragraphs are what you should focus at when reading ๐ 
Help
@wise merlin aaaand again u are a god Iโll take that pic for me ๐ officially stolen
@wise merlin yeah i started doing that (used Belinda like 2 times ever). @iron dome so Nemora / Arden / Saverus / Brutus / ???? I seriously have 3 wilders. Maybe Khasos or Vurk?
Should I go afk for a bit or swap some people? I don't quite understand the mechanics of placement :/
@viscid hazel It's not stolen if it's from a public area, friend, use it as willingly as you would! ๐
@chilly prism You have 2 L tiers in Crystal... why not replace Brutus and Shemira for them? (As they're the most unlikely heroes to receive duplicates of from Tavern...)
@sand aspen I think u lack dmg in your line up wilders backline kinda is strongest with shemira Brutus cause they deal enough dmg for 5 but with 2 Tanks kinda meh
@wise merlin I was planning on axeing shemira for a leg for sure. With Sav as a carry i was going to lvl brutus as my tank then the last three be filler basically.
@chilly prism Okay, but keep yourself open minded!
If things don't go as planned, going by a different strategy will definitely not hurt 
A game like this is meant for several strategies and ways of resource management, thank you for being good sport however! ^^
@chilly prism Maybe Brutus Khasos Saveas Arden Nemora? Someone more knowledgeable might have a better suggestion
@chilly prism I dont exactly know what u mean by โaxeingโ but if you mean using shemira as fodder do NOT do that
@viscid hazel I think he meant maxing. ๐
Iโd try the same as @iron dome but use shemira instead of Nemora and let her frontline bottom and place Arden top so silvina goes on Brutus after Arden
@viscid hazel @wise merlin i meant to put her in the crystal. And I am like 1 epic+ away from making Brutus or saveas leg
Stuck at 6-4
So close lol
@pale kettle Hello Adventurer 
Allow me to introduce you to this chatroom's Pinned messages, where there's a 4 pages long guide showing how to exactly pass the entirety of Chapter 6! Comfortably made with effort and love for newcomers like you.
Give it your best read and try it's advices! ^^
@chilly prism try this
Arden
Brutus
Khasos
Shemira
Saveas
Yo Nicky you seem quite good at this game. I read the guide for 9-20. But I really can't seem to get it with the heros that I own
@viscid hazel thanks I will try that
What do you think I should do?
@digital current I am only at 11-24 myself! ๐ I wouldn't say good, Just about decentish would do. ๐
I do have a strong sense of game-knowledge and I like to know a lot, though, hence my knowledge :p
@digital current On another note, may you please share your hero roster and formation? ๐
Normally I go
@digital current Okay, here's an idea for you;
This formation might work, I'll give reasoning too if you'd like me to! ^^
Fawkes
Hogan
Kaz
Lyca
Saveas
If that does not work, you'll need to pull alot of 10x pulls and overpass level 121 for both your last 2 heroes and Crystal, as level 121 ability pass is a massive difference from 120!
Do try the formation first, if it doesn't work, I have few more ideas ^^
Worth ?
@summer magnet #classic-questions
Estrilda and Fawkes no
That team got bodied, do you have a idea that doesn't use 4 agility
Cus my lyca will have really bad gear that way haha
@digital current 4 wilders + Saveas or fawkes
@digital current I've mentioned Lyca because of her haste, nothing else, but it seems like you need another tank for further durability, allow me to take another look at your roster please. ^^
Yeah her haste is quite good
Saveas
Seirus
Nemora
Kaz
Lyca
^ That's actually a better formation than mine ๐

help out new player what better build around baden or brutus?
I'll just wait til I can get that 121 with everyone
@digital current Then as been mentioned before, overpassing level 120 and reaching 121 is critical for you!
Focus your gems, and do try your best to receive as much soulstones as possible, pull Tavern Tokens for the faction of which you have the most E tier heroes of, and pray for the best, as I do for you! ๐ 
Did u try the other way around? Like
Lyca
Kaz
Nemora
Seirus
Saveas
Or tried switching Saveas with Fawkes?
That worked better yeah, hmmm. Just need better gear or higher levels
@vapid garden I am not exactly sure but they serve different purposes in line ups. Plus itโs kinda best to work with what u have and I donโt know what other heroes u have.
Worth it to get ira to legendary so I maybe could use her?
@viscid hazel brutus belinda nemora baden mirael hodan epics
just started to play ๐
@digital current Iโd say no wilder fodder is rare cause u need Tasi Nemora lyca fodder maybe even for Arden. Furthermore maybe u progress 2-10 stages yet you get stuck again and regret using all that valuable fodder.
Take it slow have fun chill in discord etc. my recommendation
Yeah good idea
@vapid garden Brutus Baden Nemora are great Belinda is decent (personally not a fan because every other mage than shemira is not shemira)

Mirael and hogan are decent early game
@digital current this game always forces u to decide progress now with โmehโ value or save it for later and be patient
20 33 anyone?
Would u be so kind to post ur heroes as well. Otherwise itโs hard to make suggestions
@viscid hazel You think I can adjust my line-up a certain way to push through chapter 6 or should I just wait it out?
I'm trying to form a team around the tier list in the afk arena guide thing, but I don't know if it's considered a standalone tier list or if it's considered through faction buffs.
Only other line up I see for you is:
Hogan estrilda mirael Saveas, then depending on stage Tasi or Nemora
Any better lineup for this stage?
@sand aspen AFAIK the tier list is a standalone tier list but hero tiers really depend on levels. My recommendation for you is buy shemira from lab store and work around her and Saveas as DD
Halp
Any tips? 2 silvina's is just... ๐ญ
@tough salmon hogan against Brutus to CC him, shemira away from spider lady
Shemira
Seirus
Nemora
Hogan
Ira
OR
Estrilda
Shemira
Nemora
Seirus
Ira
OR
IraSeirusEstrildaShemiraNemora
@pale kettle seems like u are unlucky with draws but lvling tank and support over dps is actually pretty useless
all I can really level is support, my only levellable DPS has only 12 left
try brutus/estrilda, lucius, nemora, shemira, silvina ?? @pale kettle
thereโs no faction bonus in that lineup, however it hypothetically should help nemora survive a tad bit longer
she survives the longest at the frontline ironically, she gets her heal off pretty quickly as Vedan isn't doing much damage
15-40... any suggestions?
I think I might just have to wait for draws, specifically shemira
On reddit was a post with this team that went to 16-20 for 15-40 he said he used
Tasi
Shemira
Nemora
Lyca
Arden
And hope for a charm on ferael and alot of praying xD @solemn crane
@fierce fjord Oh well. I tried shemira on top already and she just dies immediately. Iโll give it another 40 trie though lol.
Im also stuck at this stage with 10 more levels on ym wilders than u and so far i wasnt lucky enough. Best try was niru and shemira left
Uff that sucks
And im at 100 replays so far
I feel like wilders Level donโt make a difference at a power difference of like 400k. They get 1 shot anyways
Yeah feels like but perhaps the 10k hp and 400 dmg will do wonders xD
xD
Do you know which artifacts on which heroes the guy on reddit used? That makes a huge difference too
@crisp coral u could try tasi instead of arden cause i feel like arden isnt good enough before his 3 root
trying
I think he had blade on shemira, horn on tasi, cloak on nemora the shield thing on arden and the crit one on lyca. No idea how he got the blade though i am not even close to the boss fight that would alow me to pick it up
Getting the blade is actually quite simple with wilders trio and shemira
Just do the lightbearers teams and work your way up
By close i mean i need to do like 3-4 more fights and than beat the boss 2
My lightbearers suck though cause i get no duppes to leg+ and then mythic them
No I mean kill all the lightbearer teams on the map. Your shemira basically 1 shots them. Then lucius + belinda boss Is easy with all the wilders cc.
After that one just follow the right path up
@pale kettle i would use brutus shemira and wilder trio (lyca arden tasi)
I alrdy beat the lucius belinda one but lost all my wilders in that fight
Gonna try it tomorrow again though perhaps im lucky with relics ๐
@viscid hazel Will do friend. Thanks โค
Hard carry eh? @viscid hazel
Any ideas for a better line up my current is the top five
Any advice for me here? I cant kill the poison girl before she completely decimates my top side
@sick creek have you tried putting the mauler healer instead? Getting the 3/2 bonus?
@sick creek Swap Brutus with Hogan, Brutus should survive her and Golus better.
@chilly prism GZ was this the line up I recommended?
@viscid hazel yup
Nicu, it was a pleasure to be helpful
@chilly prism @wise merlin did both suggestions and first try lol.. ily. Why did that make such a huge difference? Tyty
Iโm goin to sleep tho have a good one feel free to link me if u post anything in line up help so I get the message pop up
Tasi out ๐
@sick creek Brutus has immunity, making sure to nullify Ankhira's (Spider lady) damage and sometimes even counter Golus' charging ability (which is his ultimate), he's definitely the better choice for you, also keeping Numisu (which I assume you replaced for Tasi) alive and actively damaging your enemies.
@wise merlin makes sense. I have a lot to learn. Thanks for the patience.
@sick creek Of course. ๐ do feel free to DM me if you'd like a direct advice, I usually don't offer this to people (Instead they just do it anyways ๐ )
@wise merlin I added you :).
@sick creek brutus and a few other units have a special ability on their auto attacks that make them AOE. This is especially good against spider girl cause she is pretty squishy and also melee, a few good auto attack crits and a ulti almost always kills her regardless of chapter
@wise merlin lmao nicky! See this is why your DM gets flood! XD
@narrow thicket
Anyway for me to beat this?
9-20 lineup help please ๐
This is my account on my tablet, this a pretty good lineup for early game?
I would move belinda to the middle lane
@analog epoch get 5 heroes up not 4 so you can have the 5th hero be useful, and use the resonating crystal
yeah I just don't know what those 5 should be
the 5th was a fodder I sacked to make nemora legendary
Doesn't really matter what the 5 are right? Just need em to up the level of everything not in the crystal
Then get whoever is the highest ascension up so you can use whoever is in the crystal
@random verge it doesn't matter who they are, just highest ascension
Ye that's what I thought
@random verge Hello friend! ^^ How've you been doing this far?
If this helps, you may keep it for future reference. ^^
I have vedan in my top 5 cause he's the only 5th hero I have that is E+ or above, I don't like vedan though
Also if I'm stuck at 9-32 if anyone has advice that would be great :)
What do?
Just started this acct, should I use Arden and Saveas over ira and mirael?
@sullen lotus yea saveas and arden can help a ton for the early stages of the game and ardens useful even at some parts of endgame
Okay cool thanks! Is it worth to reset the two Iโm not using at the cart? @obsidian ember
any help?
Could make a Mauler and Lightbearer legendary. Should I?
I heard ellron op
@silk dew wait. none of your e+ are fodder
Yeah so I should just leave them all alone, correct?
mhm
Unfortunate cuz Iโm hard stuck on Lab 99 and in campaign
Can anyone help please? 11-28
Anyone have a recommended line up for chap 5 20 on? I dont mind resetting and playing with it. Nothing I try gets close to a win I've used a couple hundred diamonds already probably.
@sick creek afk a few days, your units are underlevelled. Donโt waste anymore gems
Really? I thought you were normally 10 to 15 levels below?
I remember when I was in chapter 5 my levels were more or less equal to the other teamโs, it will also help you later on in chapter 6 where stuff starts getting a lot harder
Tbh up until like chapter 8 I just ran
Arden
Golus
Mirael
Hogan
Tasi
Try that with estrilda instead of golus and you should be ok for a little bit, I may be wrong but worked for me :)
Max out your Belinda, she can be very helpful and Iโm pretty sure your Brutus is levelled up enough @sick creek
That is what I was before I reset everybody earlier today lol. So that lineup is good just wait for afk and maxa Belinda next? Right now brutus is 80 and rest are 1 I got bored and annoyed. Thanks for advice @unreal flare
Anyone wanna help with 8-32
Lol this game is funny, I'm stuck at 9-32 with a team that has less power rating than yours. Goes to show power isn't everything ๐
Try running the nemora/tasi combo and see how it goes @rare estuary
Who should I swap? @unreal flare
@rare estuary get vedan to legendary then reset Raine and Fawkes. Throw them onto the resonating crystal then level up Baden and Vedan so you can raise your entire team's level
Actually working on that xD
Just generally what should my lineup be? ATM running Brutus, Vedan, Tasi, Athalia & Arden
Depends on line up and sometimes RNG to clear stage
@leaden olive I am not sure Vedan is still applicable at your level ๐ค
Ya as of rn I am stuck indeed tbh
You are now which chap? 11? 12?
Ic.. M Brutus! I am not sure, but you seems to be lacking a 2nd tank. Cos yours mostly offtank.
Yeah I for sure am, I do have Lucius E & estrilda L+
Your Shem only elite?
Sadly so yeah
@fierce kayak Vedan is like Saveas where he can tank most of the hits
Early game at least
Except against a saveas he gets 2 shot if heโs lucky, 1 shot most of the time in my case (on this stage)
@chilly marten erm.. I mean Vedan at his level should have been retire. It's it's Sav then it's better.. at least Sav can be useful till chap 15/16.
Should I retire Vedan to level Estrilda & reset Arden so I can put him just at 141
So ricey hope all counts on Brutus as carry and Wilders RNG CC 
@fierce kayak He carried me alot and I never had a Saveas (mainly graveborn team)
Brutus carries me from 11-26 to here in basically 1 solid run the other day but rn Iโm stuck lmao
@leaden olive I saw your Arden 147.. but since its Just 6 levels more.. I dunno.
Stuck on this level. Suggestions?
Could be handy for estrilda I guess idk
@chilly marten ic. Maybe pure GB team helps Vedan too but I don't use him. Only know he usually retires earlier than Sav.
@leaden olive estrilda seems to be your best bet I think... you have so many of her.. lol
@fierce kayak that's fair. I've never used Sav before so I don't know how good he is in comparison to Vedan lol
How does Estrilda get one hit by maulers when lightbearers > maulers??????
Ic... Cos really depends on our lineup. I mean if I have plenty of Vedan early and no Sav.. I will use Vedan too 
@leaden olive cos as I mentioned, she is not a pure tank as lucius
Didnt have luck last time I posted but any ideas for 9-20?
Should I use Lucius even tho heโs only E?
@fierce kayak @fierce kayak
I don't really use her too so you can try ask again later when other chaps online
@analog epoch saveas > Shem TIL 161
@leaden olive lucius will die maybe before enemies raise a finger on him? ๐ค
Sorry didn't mean to @ you for no reason lol
Thatโs what I was afraid of. Feel like Iโm stuck for a while tbh
Ace hates me? Lol..
I was trying to see your profile pic and apparently you can @ someone by just tapping their name lol
what would the lineup with saveas be? @leaden olive
@leaden olive you can come in later and ask again.. Aero they all is more experience
Seriously though I'm hard stuck on 14-34 and would appreciate any suggestions
@thorn condor lol.. it's from Solo levelling korean manga. Very popular right now if you are into manga.
Iโd say Saveas, Golus, Belinda, Nemora & Athalia
i Cannot figure out why this is giving me so much trouble. i feel like i cant even make a dent in the enemy team
Labyrinth?
yea
Try using raine ult first perhaps
no good, raine dies before she can ult ๐
Oof
Maybe swap sav and Brutus to be in front of Lucius and see if they can down him before shield
Well goodnight boys & girls. Thanks for the help anyhow! Gl all
he just aggros on thane :(
Tasi
Shemira
Brutus
Saveas
Khasos
Best team I could make for wrizz?
that worked a little better but i'm still getting my ass beat lmao
@earnest hedge Other heros available?
fawkes steals brutus right before he can ult, lucius never dies before he heals, and athalia and arden's ults destroy my team
Do you manage to kill any of them?
i can kill arden and sometimes fawkes
Suggestions here? Baden or w/e gets out of hand real quick. I do have Mireal I could toss in the Crystal if need be.
Hey guys, any advice for best loadout in wrizz?
@milk that four lightbearer plus nemora. belinda raine lucius thane ๐
hey any one can help me with my formation this is what i have
@worldly lion
Hogan Estrilda/Vedan (team bonus)
Silvina Tasi Baden
@obtuse halo Either: Replace Arden with Raine for faster Belinda ults, or try:
Belinda/Shemira
Thoran
Estrilda
Lucius
Fawkes
If you want to use Arden, put him at the top or middle so he doesn't get beaten up by the Khasos/Saveas line before he can root.
Help
@frigid veldt That's my same team, except I use Raine instead of Fawkes. That should work, put Lucius at the back and Estrilda in front because his ascensions might hinder him from shielding.
Any help :/
Level up Shemira more
I can't rn need more GB. But besides that do I stand a chance here cause this is lab I gotta finish before tm
Stuck at this...
@cedar citrus you have very few tank options :/
@velvet epoch Dump your exp into Saveas
I know. I dont pull tanks and my wagons were all mages and assassins besides skreg I took both skreg for that reason
@crisp helm prioritize Brutus with exp/levels
No one is able to help me out?
@cedar citrus Hard chance to finish if you didn't get good relics, lab is very relic dependent. Grezhul Skreg front, Shemira Nara and a crowd controller at the back (Tasi, Arden). Eironn is a bad choice for this because if he pulls he might wreck your backline, but he might be able to distract Silvina for a bit if you have no other cc.
I got mediocre relics
@brittle summit what do you need help with
Maybe Raine for the dps boost ultimate
@near sundial what I posted last night. I'm having trouble getting through 11-32 and Kings Tower Floor 141.
ok stuck on this an the line up isnt helping
Post screenshot so I donโt have to search @brittle summit
