#lineup-help
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@digital current this is a longshot but put kaz in your crystal and then put the lineup as Hogan/Eironn/Lyca/Ira/Kaz and then make sure your kaz as the lowest def of everyone
But only by the smallest margin you can
Silv targets the lowest defense unit if ni mage is present
We want her to target kaz
And hope kaz last long enough that IRA turns and targets silv aswell. Also let me know who fawkes coffins. Make we can use that
Swap Belinda and fawkes when you check
@timid cave what stage is thst?
11.36
He targets niru
@timid cave have you tried lyca or arden as opposed to saveas
@digital currenthow does jt work out with the kaz lineup?
Saveas is the carry. Would have to change the entire team comp to make up for the loss of damage if I sup saveas
It saves a bit if time, just the rest of the team is so low that they die or don't deal dmg
@timid cave hes weak against lightbearers and you have no party bonus they dp
There is no weakness, only bonus damage
Can anyone give me some advice on the infamous 9-20 please?
Stuck on 10-20 pretty sure I'm just to weak cuz I was stuck on 10-19 for a while
@digital current try Hogan/Skreg/Ira/Fawkes/Kaz. If that doesnt work you really will have to either level more or create a second tank(I reccomend Golus or Ogi). Your problem stems from two issues. You have lowest damage over time(Ira is your only consistant dps unit) and that you have no second tank(only Hogan). As I'm sure you've noticed whichever side Hogan is not on tends to collapse and flood over to overwhelm your other units
@forest cradle why is your Shemire your lvl 177 Shemira not part of your line up?
Cause she doesn’t do much against that
even as front line? what is your gear like
As frontline she can live but my whole team dies
So you need either a unit that can kill the side Hogan is on before you get overwhelmed(Most use Sav and occasionally Vedan) or your other side needs to be able to support itself which means you need another tank
@narrow thicket yeah just tried that, didn't get that way. Thanks either way tho 😊
My team really needs another tank or healer
@forest cradle you need stronger gear then and lvl up some of your heroes
@digital current yep 😄 review some of your gear too
All my heroes are capped at 160 till I get them mythic
I have leg gear and mythic gear on almost everyone
@forest cradle you need to wait a little then.. try maybe some of the peaks and they give some cards and @digital current you need some more L gear goodnight all
@forest cradle I also suggest not upgrading heroes to Legendary whenever you can, you'll run out of fodder for future mythics very quickly
These are all my heroes and I was wondering if I could get any help on what are the best heroes to use for my lineup thankyou
Brutus Lucius front Belinda estrilda saveas back maybe belinda belind brutus and saveas behind l
What I would do early game
Hey I’m a new player, can someone help me set up a good line up?
I'd say Hogan and that tank Mauler frontline. Backline Mirael Saveas and that gunner lightbearer on first row.
Alright thanks I’ll try it out
Not necessarily line-up help but ascension help. Stafiya and Warek can be ascended, but Saveas is supposed to be op op in early levels. Who should I turn legendary?
Hi, any suggestions?
@robust snow It’s never a good idea to use ascended-tier heroes as fodder for other ascended-tier heroes. I would wait until you had other legendary tier heroes
@pale kettle can’t see your full lineup. Mirael should be back middle. Swap ogi out for estril or someone else
@robust snow to answer who you should ascend out of those 3, get savaes to l+ because he will carry you harder than the other two can in the early game
@woeful hare brutus lucius front savaes athalia belinda back is good fornow
@scarlet kraken with this line up i’m getting the closest
@pale kettle I think your ogi is a bad pick against 5 maulers (especially a brutus). Even using thoran could be better cause of the resurrection.
Any ideas for going against these people in the laby?
Finally i passed it, with thoran, thank u @scarlet kraken 
@scarlet kraken do you think you could help me with a lineup what do you suggest is the best
@thorny frost lucius nara raine Silvia farel
@thorny frost it’s hard to say without knowing any of the relics you have, can’t go wrong with the triple wilder backline (tasi lyca nemora) that is always op
@placid dirge I can definitely try, do you mind sending a picture?
@scarlet kraken just looking for suggestions dont get scared
@placid dirge buddy has ⭐️ ‘s on the heroes asking for tips 😂😂 I should be asking you! I’m not even sure how the heroes interact that late in the game.
😁Now im stuck at 5-40 😁
@placid dirge but I would run 2 mauler 3 graveborn. Brutus khasos grezhul ferael shemira if that is any help to you.
@scarlet kraken sorry here is a new one honest opinion on a lineup of mine
@scarlet kraken you tell me a lineup I'll tell ya if it works this way you can help more people
@scarlet kraken
any ideas for 13-4
@placid dirge lol sure buddy. Like I said brutus grezhul front ferael khasos shemira back would be a lineup I would use if I had your op levels
@scarlet kraken khasos doesnt do to well late game I run wilders with graveborns
@placid dirge 5 wilders u can counter that hard!!! But u put yourself at a factional disadvantage with those graveborns 😦
@pale kettle I don’t remember what 5-40 looks like, but use more ranged heroes in your backline right now 4 of your heroes push to the front which isn’t ideal
I was just showing ya this is my main team
@placid dirge I am jealous of your squad my friend. Is the infamous shemira brutus front, nemora lyca tasi back any good late game
@scarlet kraken heros that mash amazing together like raine Belinda and brutus or ulmus and baden are important
My current line up (still new ish to the game so levels are still quite low for my team.)
@scarlet kraken This is how it looks like.
@pale kettle you got somethings backwards try Hogan serius ira Belinda Belinda nemora
@scarlet kraken what heros do you know that mash well
Am I only gonna beat 9-40 if I level up or is there something I should try
@vale tiger what's the level look like
@robust snow I hope you didnt use saf or warek as fodder
@placid dirge lyca tasi nemora mash well. can u try brutus grezhul frontline. Ferael nemora shemira backline. I want to know if this works
@vale tiger try lucius tasi nemora Belinda arden
@scarlet kraken didnt work it was a slaughter house
Tasi is dying very fast
@placid dirge gg
Yea im just getting destroyed
@vale tiger tasi isnt meant to be used as a tank I'm working with what u got. Try lucius brutus saveas Belinda raine
@scarlet kraken u wanna keep trying
Any tips on how to deal with this level?
Yea that doesnt work either damn
@placid dirge brutus warek vurk khasos numisu LoL
@wispy cosmos what other heros you got
@scarlet kraken mauler heros kinda drop off where I'm at brutus out shines
@wispy cosmos have you ttried grezhule brutus feral tasi sherm
@placid dirge I’m out of ideas my friend. Goodluck
@scarlet kraken I cant beat it I need levels first not your fault
@wispy cosmos when I was on that level I just spammed until I got lucky with charm
@exotic swallow lucius brutus raine Belinda fawkes
Should I be dumping levels into Saveas or Shemira at this point? I’m early in chapter 12.
@placid dirge thanks
@exotic swallow been using the same lineup for a long time
Was doing the same lineup, but Baden instead of Brutus, was beating chapter 11 50k power difference
Baden is good mines almost ascended 2 star @exotic swallow
Need 1 more elite plus fodder for him to fly to ascended
@placid dirge appreciate the help. Thanks a bunch. What chapter you currently at with that lineup?
@exotic swallow 22-24
@placid dirge this my bro, if you don't mind helping his lineup?
is there anything i can do or should i play the waiting game? mirael and morvus are roasting my ass
I can’t beat this
@prime vapor do you have fawkes and athali?
Just an E fawkes
Try Lucius estrilda Arden belinda/thane tasi/nemora
I just beat it but thx lol
I just added a fawkes and it gave shem enough time to demolish
I need help with 11-28
Suggestions??
I didn't @placid dirge king, they seemed too strong to use. Decided to stall a bit longer
@pale kettle Lucius estrilda belinda Arden fawkes/athalia
Full graveborn enemies were a pain in the a
@obtuse halo reset savaes and lvl up Arden
Line up though ???
Well he only needs a few coke and exp u can wait it out to 141 arden
Lucius estrilda belinda arden fawkes @obtuse halo
@obtuse halo since ur talking about who to get in challenger store why not get fawkes and ascend him to leg+
People are more lvled than me and can’t do the lvl I have completed lol
I need help with 9-20, any ideas to beat it
Can anyone help me with this matchup? I’ve been struggling for two weeks and have brought 3 heroes from 180-200 and upgraded them and still can’t beat it
Having an athalia really helps against nemora or isabella @obsidian ember but if u can ascend saveas hes gonna be good at that stage with duras tear
@exotic kettle what do you think I should do here
@coral solar Arden is max lvl
worth putting Lucius on team?
Use him he carried more than savaes for me @obtuse halo
@exotic kettle im on campaign not labyrinth, and theres no artifact called duras tear, so wdym by that?
Def @old needle
swapping out for who
Khasos
Is it better to put together something like Saveas, Nemora, Tasi, Lucius, Brutus ... or go for a lesser tank like Golus and get the type Benefit
And switch tasi for arden @old needle
fr fr? never used him
He op
@obsidian ember duras eye. Sorry mb
Any missed optimizations here?
oh ok thanks for calrifying
@coral solar put arden away from morvus,use sav, id they didnt work maybe getting silvina to leg+ to get that mirael is also a choice
@minor wedge its all gucci
@exotic kettle silvina get on the spider not on mirael
@junior plover i think ur top 5 heroes is the best option just switch arden for a tank like brutus or golus
@coral solar as long as she kills one of those problematic mage thats gucci. (i thought shed get on mirael, but i guess ankhira has lower defense)
im been stuck for a while now, any suggestion?
Suggestions?
@dire radish shemira over fawkes. If it didnt work try ezizh or nemora. If u r worrying about faction bonus, it wouldnt matter since shemira is the best dps
Alright thanks
@exotic kettle thanks. Better to have two dps rather than slot tasi in?
@junior plover yes. I sugggest getting sav into higher ascencion level. Hes really good until chap 15
Gotcha. Thanks! Yeah I’ll definitely ascend sav as soon as I can
Hes even a better dps than shemira at that level
@exotic swallow sorry had to get ready for tomorrow mowed the lawn a bit for your brother
Hogan brutus sherm Belinda fawkes
@coral solar nm simm
I'm tryna figure out who to replace ankhira with here. Any suggestion?
@placid dirge thanks
@valid path prob vedan. But if u can get a better suppor/dps u can use that.
Can i do anything about this
@astral walrus No expert here. But get your other 5th 71. Prob replace Nem with shem? But can probably work on replacing your Ogi with a more practical tank.
Try using shem or nimusu. Arden and ogi isnt good at that lvl. Nimusu can act as a tank with hogan. Use belina, nemora and shemira in the backline @astral walrus
10-40 Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
okay thanks
@@ember bane Lightbringers would work, your just missing more tanks in front line. Only @exotic kettle can save you
@ember bane try using hogan as a tank. If u can ascend silvina shes gonna be a good counter againts isabella. Sav is also a good choice. Put sav in shemiras place. Put shemira top and arden middle. U can use hogan, khasos, thoran as tank
Im not an expert btw
@exotic kettle what chapter are you up to? Can you help me I’m stuck on 20-36
@dapper sundial ur in a higher level than me so i dont think i can help much
Ok is anyone past or around 20-36 that can help?
Ok thx man
any suggestions for this stage 6-20 pls
@quartz scaffold always lvl up your shemira first. Golus, hogan front, belinda khasos, shem back.
@exotic kettle yes
but I still need to level up those heroes to pass that stage 6-20, right?
Yes specially shemira
ok
Buy nemora or shemira from the store? Currently run either 2 mauler lightbearers OR 2 mauler wilders
(Lucius Brutus/Fawkes Belinda Saveas) (Brutus Eironn/Saveas Lyca Tasi OR Nemora)
10-4
issit that all I need is to ascend and level up my hero ? My opponent is all in mythic
that suckssss
need help with 11-20
More levels and try savaes instead of ogi? Can lyca survive frontline
I’ve never tried lyca frontline but I’m pretty sure she can’t
Secrets of the forest. Finished all battles except this all Wilder one as I can't seem to lower their health without killing them
What you want to do is just run a normal comp and get the camps try to get some wilders, keep resetting TIL you get them and then take the fight as you’ll have 5 wilders and with good relics that’ll be ez
Yeah I've had no luck with the camps recently so I've just been trying to do the first two battles then this instead of doing it all multiple times. idk I'll give that another shot tho
It took me 6/7 runs to get double wilder, trust me you’ll do fine just re run re run re run dude
ughhhhhhh okay cheers
💞
11-36.. stuck ofc any tips
Me too dude rip
yeah 😂 I have two mythics pretty embarrassing I'm still stuck here
Nah not embarrassing at all my dude, you got v lucky or spent a lot 👀 but shits hard
lucky with estrildas and shemira was just a grind.. besides all the graveborn dupes I got
Yeah? Damn good shit dude and yeah Shem is a nightmare
yeah, one more elite+ graveborn and I'll have a shemira mythic+ to carry me! 😂
Jealous 😭😭 gimme
?
What should I buy with the lab points tmro
I always buy shemira
These r my current line up
What stage are you and are you struggling? Shem is a good pick but nemora is strong too and you get a free copy at 12
Only started yesterday and I’m stage 5-16
Considering the level of his saveas and saveas >Shem TIL 160 he might get enough for Shem later
I’m not sure I’m a noob lol I just started
Reset your ira & mirael or whatever, only level 5 people. The rest you can put in crystal
You're a God @leaden olive thanks for the advice lmao
💞 of course my dude best of luck in your further struggles @pulsar kettle
♥️
Okay will do ricey thanks, any tips on who to focus on?
And team comp suggestion w my current heroes?
Well https://reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/bz3rp4/guide_a_quick_list_of_tips_that_players_may_not/
Level in 20s according to this (: and comps hmmm
I think your current team should be pretty good for a while honestly
Nah fuck that you’re higher than me I can’t help you
Stuck on 8-40 for three days. I feel my team needs a Lucius or Nemora at this point. Help appreciated, thanks!
11-32
@sand rune Hello! ^^
How've you been? 😋
I would try a different formation;
Arden, Brutus, Tasi, Thane, Saveas
It is true that you'd want to kill Brutus first, but he will mitigate all of your Saveas' damage to null with his immunity, do try and pull most of your DPS onto Golus, so then Niru and Brutus will slowly collapse.
Crowd control is your best friend;
Heroes like Estrilda, Tasi, Arden will do you wonders, especially against Niru, and Isabella.
I hope this helps!
@soft igloo Hello. ^^
You would want to mitigate as much of Brutus and Saveas' early damage, placing your Brutus against the enemy Brutus is not only optional, also recommended.
I'd try a formation like so;
Nemora
Brutus
Arden
Saveas
Fawkes / Lyca (depending on if you need cc, or can fight the 5v5 with a little bit of haste
)
@lost pier Please do take your time to reading this, hope it'll help!
@wise merlin there’s no enemy brutus....?
@soft igloo Oml this is the 2nd time I mistook a Golus for a Brutus... My bad, you could put Brutus up against Golus.. my bad 😅
lol it’s all good just making sure
What should I use my faction scrolls on
Ik i already asked earlier but i didnt get any answers so ill ask again:
Buy nemora or shemira from lab store? Currently run either 2 mauler lightbearers OR 2 mauler wilders
(Lucius Brutus/Fawkes Belinda Saveas) (Brutus Eironn/Saveas Lyca Tasi OR Nemora)
Shemira
Hello, any suggestion? I'm been stuck for a while on this one
@frigid dagger for this level I removed my tasi/nem/Lyca and just filled with graveborn to boost Shemira.
Idk it worked for me maybe you could give it a go. Also took many attempts for rng
I tried but my graveborns are very weak :(
where does tasi go in a line up?
@frigid dagger yes you can see mine died almost immediately too, I just used them to give Shemira the 20% faction bonus
anyone got Lucius legend+?
@short pulsar I usually put her in the top back corner, but it depends on the fight, switching her around can change a battle outcome dramatically. I suggest experimenting with her placement depending on the boss your fighting
Yes I do, Use #mercenary for that though
whats ur ign can i add u please?
<- sure I’ll clear a spot my ign is Jproxy same profile pic
@short pulsar I hope that next time you'll use the dedicated chatroom for this sort of questions! ^^
As it's been mentioned, #mercenary is where you look for friends with heroes at specific ascension tiers. 
Will do, thank you sorry abot that
No worries at all! ^^
I have 10 faction scrolls (and 91/100 in summons) so I can summon a specific faction after I spend them.
My question is do I use them in graveborn or maulers?
I need one Brutus to make him L+ and one shemira to make her Ascended.
Bit of a conundrum... Should I feed my L+ Saveas to make Brutus Myth?... Might be a while before my next non-Ascendable Mauler... Currently having trouble in stage 13.
Getting shredded on 11-40
@mystic willow be a man and pull mauler
@mystic willow the faction scrolls are mainly used for fodder, so go for maulers, then pull for gb from tavern for shemira or wait it out with lab and try for brutus
@manic panther reset saveas and dump it onto Shemira
Ok thanks to both 🙌
@near sundial should i level shemira to 161 if i can then dump everything back into saveas?
Heck yes if you can get your Shemira to 161 then do it ASAP
@manic panther dump as much as you can into shem, 180 shem will carry you with wilders in the back
Is it 12k dust to get to 161? I only got 6k currently
You get some back from Sav
it's only 3k though right?
Didn’t get neither Brutus or Shemira 😂
Reset all hero’s to 140, (not 141, save the dust) then boost Shem to 161
Okay thank you
@mystic willow rip
It says when i reset saveas, I get 11k dust back. That doesnt seem right?
Oh nice. And which artifact is good for Shemira? I got Dura's Eye, Call, and Grace
The one that does atk speed/crit
That one works really well for me
Generally eye is put on saveas
The crit boost is great. I use blade too for longer fights
My eye is on thane/brutus/saveas
it's 11k back but then you need to get sav back to 140 to get shem past 161
^
Just gotta wait to get experience to get Saveas to 140, stuck at 138
Oof
Hey guys I stuck at chapter 11-16 . What you guys think about my line-up? Ist it just to under leveled? I have 12k dust left and don’t know what I should do
- Get saveass to lvl 141 or 160
3m switch ulmus to saveass
Is there anyone past chapter 20 that can help with with my line up for 20-36?
Ok thanks
@dapper sundial post screen maybe someone can help
Who does tasi banish in that
It’s random
Have you tried shemira front? Lvl220 vs lv227 seems ok for her
Yeah she gets wrecked either by Kaz or by Arden’s Vines CCing her
@dapper sundial why don't you have arden?
Try
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Shem
Athalia
dura's call on shem. Rng in such a way shem doesn't get silenced. You need to disrupt the arden unless you can find a way for nemora's charm to go through. If you can rng it such that nemora charms arden to root his own team.
Otherwise try
Nemora
Lyca
Arden/Tasi
Shem
Athalia.
Ok will try that thank you @novel adder
I had Arden but even with good gear he was dying almost instantly. So I fed him to Tasi
No ogi here so he should survive if his frontline holds XD
@dapper sundial the comp is good (did you fodder arden?) , it should be possible to pass for you.
I would try shem vs ulmus and lyca behind brutus.
The best scenario should be arden rooting brutus tasi and nemora , and see there what you lack (switching artifacts on shem). Its just a stage where you spam a lot of tries to get arden root the right ones
Yeah I foddered Arden should be able to get him to max again in a week or so
I am very stuck, please help
@round crane max saveas.
For this particular stage try
Nara
Thoran
Numi
Vedan
Saveas
Ty
Suggestions on how to beat this level
Hawlp pls
@round crane if cant, level up saveas
20-26 any suggestions?
@wise mural mythic nara wth lol
Try
Athalia
Grez
Baden
Shem
Nara.
Is 11-40 even theoretically possible? I’m getting wiped before I get a single ability off
I am stuck at 9-20, can someone suggest a line up please
@solemn widget read pinned post
@tawdry cipher other than sav, the rest need a bit of leveling i think.
Try
Arden/Tasi
Shem
Vurk
Brut
Saveas
Any help with 11-40? I’ve never gotten fucked as bad as this level
sorry if i'm dumb but i've actually alrady read them, what am i supposed to gather from it? @willow merlin
@pale kettle you need to level a bit more.. probably should put your E+ units as your top 5 so you can continue leveling them to 120 (saveas, hogan etc)
Try
Belinda
Hogan
Athalia
Luci
Saveas
Hello guys, could you please advise the best synergy comp based on those, i'm currently at chapter 10 which mains Maulers/Graveborns as enemies, fior now i'm not stuck but still want some guidance.
@last rain shem front instead of lyca , can tasi survive silvina jump? If yes it should be possible with enough tries (you can try arden instead of nemora too)
If my message was missing a picture of the stage I am stuck at it is here
@solemn widget i would say a screenshot of 9-20
@fading jasper she aint surviving the jump from sylvina, and arden will be target cause of lower defense even if i switch gear
@last rain
Not quite sure. if silvi targets tasi its fine. Try swapping shem and lyca's position. Shem should survive and gen energy faster. Try dura's call on shem. Ideally shem doesnt get silenced by opponent shem. Also try the iteration with call on tasi if you see she gets close to ulting.
Found the stage , i used estrilda vs silvina but normally everyone uses brutus there. Maybe shem vs grezhul works too and tasi needs to banish shemira for your front to be tanky enough
Hello? Any help on 11-40?
Same here
any advice on a solid new lineup? ive been using:
brutus lucius
nemora lyca tasi
but now using shemira as a carry so need to switch it up
@runic mesa you're a tad underleveled.
Do some repositioning
Nemo
Brut
Shem
Lucius
Saveas.
Or try
Morv
Brut
Estri
Lucius
Sav
grezhul shemira
lyca ferael nemora
??
im not sure if shemira is ok front line when shes at 240
@novel adder Khasos is wiping me instantly
@tawdry cipher grace on saveas.. whatever else on shem. call if you have.
@wary glen you can try
Belinda
Lucius
Mirael
Grez/Seirus/Golus
Silvi/Ira or Nemora/Fawkes or safiya
Use the lb core and swap between gb,wilder, mauler options for the other 2.
Thank you Sorrowin
any advice for me?
@late vessel few example based on your units (when you have 2 240 you can switch your tank sometimes between brutus lucius and grezhul)
brutus shem lyca tasi nemora/arden
Brutus shem lyca ferael tasi
Lyca shem tasi nemora arden
I dont have athalia but she could probably fit in any team. And team bonuse isnt as important as long the heroes synergize togheter.
Thats for pve...
@runic mesa did estri knockback khasos? or golus.
If golus, then try estri on bottom flank. swap position with sav in the second comp.
Otherwise just level i guess. You can try tasi in somewhere or arden to try and overcome the power difference.. but khasos will probably axe them to death without lyca to haste.
Man 11-40 isn’t possible
@runic mesa i mean just afk and level.. its not like you're capped or anything
I’m getting wiped instantly in every formation
afk and level up 🤷
It’s beyond stupid. So overtuned with new khasos
cool ty @fading jasper ! wasnt sure how important the bonus was
@novel adder thanks it worrked
@late vessel dont get me wrong , its still important but 10% boost for a poorly synergizing team is just a no. For pushing stages you already have the boost with 3 wilder ,shem and brutus. And possibly athalia instead of a wilder one. Nemora or arden isnt always required and you can have fun with some athalia plays
@pale kettle nice!
@runic mesa its an ascended khasos.. and youre not even on equal level. lol that is to be expected. Seriously don't worry too much about it.. unless youve been stuck for weeks here its a normal thing. if not 11-40 is 12 something. Be patient friend 😄
Khasos or Hogan as tank?
What lineup would be the best for this stage?
@pale kettle Second team.
Tips? Im stucked i keep getting random ascend and not fodders
@orchid delta
Grezhul, Golus
Shemira, Ferael/Arden/Saveas (pick 2) should work..
I have 3 open slots in resonating crystal, who should i place there? :o
@little stream
That will be tough because of ascensions. Ideally I'd replace Lyca with another Wilder tank, like Ogi or Seirus, but since it's not in your roster..
Try Silvina or Tasi in Lyca's spot. Move backline around a bit too, if the top is too hard to clear first concentrate Brutus and Saveas on the bottom.
@tulip mesa That's for #classic-questions next time
Thoran, Athalia, Estrilda would be my recommendations in order of usefulness, but honestly you can choose to leave the slots open first and only add when you have better ascended heroes.
Any other suggestions for this level?
i need help
@tawdry cipher You could try to replace Vurk with Tasi for more crowd control, but your Brutus needs levels.
@frank herald
Lucius Grezhul
Shemira Arden/Ferael Silvina
Need help
@quaint spruce Always post hero and stage screenshots in one post, crop them if too large.
@frank herald Yes, they're all ascended so I was hoping it might work but I guess not.😆
Which heroes should I ascend?
@pale rover lol😂
Angelo one shot my nem 😦
@pale rover how about this one?
Thoughts on who I should run of this lot? Currently going with vaden/grezhul/nemora/lyca/tasi
Stuck on 11-16. Any suggestions for what to try?
@leaden snow does sav Brutus front, nemora Arden tasi back works? Arden 3 roots will help a lot at 141
It's what I tried at first, brutus just gets ran over either position and the get to the backline before my saveas can do any work. Might just have to wait a bit longer, I'm really close so a level or two on saveas might make the difference.
So currently I use belinda, thane, nemora, lucius and hogan.
I can sac the hogan to upgrade belinda, but should I? Don't really have another tank at his ascension
Any tipps for 15-16?
161 Shem instead of estrilda or lyca @pale kettle
And replace estrilda with shemira. And pump more resources into her
Shemira
Luc
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
Experiment with artifact. Ping me if failed
@frank herald
@formal aspen Absolutely not. I would use the Hogan onto either Thane or Lucius (If he was L+), they both will benefit better.
At the late game, Belinda is not useful at all other than her attack damage buff, she will work good at early-to-mid game but at late game she'll just be useless.
I have been getting my ass kicked for one day here. I switched the positions around to try but still the same
Try
Thane
Estrilda
Athalia
Hogan
Ferael @pallid widget
You can swap Thane and ferael's positions
thane > kaz bc fac bonus I think
And put more resources into athalia or and ferael
Thank you very much I will try that
First tried it with your comp @still oar haha. Thanks a lot
This somehow kills me hard
Hi, i can’t pass the 10-32 since 2days, i try so many teams. So if someone can help my i will very grateful
@still oar nvm bro i alr passed the stage haha
So i heard tasi is lit teach me a tasi lineup
Set saveas in Belinda spot
Need kill Hogan and Belinda asap
The fire chick one shot with her ult tho
Should i sacrifice my estrilda to make my belinda legendary
@digital axle nope
Should i sacrifice my belinda to make my estrilda legendary?
U should not use ascended tier hero to ascend other heroes
@digital axle #classic-questions
You know what @south herald. I kinda conflicted
I want to try several compositions with your heroes
Im down to try
But none of them use tasi actually
U wanna give me a list or something xd? Slowmode is actually annoying
@south herald u can edit ur chat
Like this if u want to add more
Let's try
Saveas
Luc
Estril
Brutus
Fawkes
Or
Nem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Sav @willow merlin
Can u tell me the positions whos front and back
Wait wrong tag lol
Wrong tag
The one with spaces is for front line @south herald
Like
3
1
4
2
5
Ok
Suggestions on this level?
Should I feed a Kaz and eiron to legend tasi?
No don’t use ascended tier heroes as fodder
I know. I'm just stuck on 11-36
I literally just beat 11-36 5 minutes ago that level is a pain
My lineup that I beat that level with was warek E+ and Brutus E+ frontline and then Arden L+ Tasi E Saveas L+ Backline
I would reset serius and level Saveas up instead
And try to get Saveas to 160 as fast as possible
I'll try that. Thanks!
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
Stuck too bad pls help ping me if u got any suggestions
@pallid widget i’m stuck there aswell 😁
Rip me, this is 13-4. Tower is the same. I can do normal lab but not hard.
Tempted to purchase Nemora from lab and get L+ Nem if I don't pull her from faction scrolls
Buy her @marble talon she is great. At least you can use her to push your base level
Waiting for tomorrow regardless, gonna see if I pull her from faction scrolls. Pushing crystal to 141 seems good. Shem kills everything if she upts early, knew she'd be great but 1v5s aren't rare for her
@ashen pine arden to 141, arden and belinda should be out of crystal and in pentagram. Saveas is in the wrong position, he should be in the middle
so do i replace anyone else @marble talon
Try going for arden instead of nemora, otherwise no.
What to spend this on? Or just save until I really need something?
Yeap saving could be a good idea, as it refresh daily
With 10M download reward you could have a L+ Atha @mystic willow
That would be great @near mist 😄 thanks
I need help, any ideas?
Any help with team comps? I'm starting to hit a wall in story
Try
Khasos
Brutus
Mirael
Estrilda
Saveas @grizzled lodge
My to go team would be
Saveas
Ogi
Lyca
Tank
Tasi/athalia
But it lacks of healing
Guess keep playing and try to luck on more units
Anything that can be done here? Or just wait for more levels
Team suggestions? Thanks!
Stuck as fuck is it just the level?
Stuck at 6-32 for 3 days already, should I maybe upgrade equipment??
Nicky can u help me?
@foggy egret You're under-ascended, get more L tier heroes, pray for the best 10x pulls, I've heard that #553558266798669824 has the same odds as ingame, give it a shot for more luck! 😋
Isnt it just for luck? Or does it determine ur roll 😅
@tough trail Definitely wait for more levels, get to level 158 on all and try again
@foggy egret It doesn't ^^, it just has the same odds, no worries. 
Ohh thx for the help
@scarlet scarab swap Arden and Nemora's positioning, and swap Arden for Fawkes.
See if it helps!
@wise merlin ty, just passed with some good rng, now defenitely stuck on the next boss stage lol
@foggy egret You're welcome 
@tough trail Nice! Hopefully you'll pass it soon! 😊
@junior plover Default team suggestion;
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora / Belinda
Tasi / Thoran
Raine / Arden / Fawkes
@wise merlin it gets me much closer to passing but I still lose cuz Nemora cant get her ult off
Stuck at 9-39, lineup help?
I have a feeling I could win if she used her ult
@sharp escarp Hello, how're you doing today? 😋
I'd offer for you to put Tasi instead of Hogan, allowing your team faction bonus of 4 Wilders, and adding some more RNG to your game, Refresh until Arden prioritizes his roots onto either Ira, or Isabella. ^^
If not, ultimately passing level 121 on all 5 main heroes will grant you the win 
Best of luck!
@wise merlin hello buddy, I'm fine you?
btw okay, what should my frontline be?
Sorry for my bad English tho
@scarlet scarab In that case, swap Nemora out for Belinda.
Her faction advantage utility and attack damage buff might greatly help!
@sharp escarp I'm doing great, friend, thank you for asking! 😊
Your formation should look like so;
Arden
Tasi
Eironn
Brutus
Ira
Anyone done 11-40?
Okay thanks, have a nice day ❤️ @wise merlin
As for you, dear adventurer
@sharp escarp
@coral solar Haven't yet, but I'm at 10-36 if it helps ^^
@wise merlin nope, this is even worse..
kinda stuck on 12-36 for couple of days now
Anny suggestions for a line up?
Currently got
Thane
Hogan
Nemora
Lucius
Belinda
@scarlet scarab I've figured... Your Nemora has been invested lots of items into.
Please do make sure that you have the best boots onto Arden and the best armor on Nemora!
Stuck on 11-28 any help would be appreciated.
@formal aspen You could always swap Nemora for Tasi when she can't use her ultimate.
Reset your Thane and level up Saveas in his place, not because he's better, but because his Ascension tier is higher.
Put Thane in Crystal (it shouldn't change your formation, Thane should be fine 😋 )
@wise merlin new lineup works, thanks!
@wise merlin nope, nothing helps..
@urban trellis Hey there, how are you doing? 
You are massively underlevelled, friend, do work on your levels instead of rushing! You've encountered a huge wall (That can still be won by Luck and RNG)
I would definitely take things slow and level up more though..
I kinda feel like that counts for me as well kek
@sharp escarp Welcome! ^^ I wish you best of luck! 
@scarlet scarab Then I'm afraid you'll need further ascending and levelling to continue! Focus your resources like so;
Saveas to 120
Ulmus to 87
Arden to 87
Should work by then!
Okay, thanks! 😊
@jovial kiln Hello, if you're looking for an advice, could you kindly share your hero roster and your formation vs the enemy's?
Thank you in advance!

@jovial kiln Forgive me. ^^ Being a sole community supporter currently* isn't an easy job! 😅
However, I can already tell you are crasily underlevelled.
Your Estrilda can't even budge Golus and Brutus chops Lucius off with no problem.
You definitely need some more resourcesuntil focus, get your minimum level on the pentagram to be 147 ^^
@formal aspen Absolutely not! Cherish all and any of the
and treat them like they're your babies!
Jokes aside, if you want to overpass level 240, you will need ALL of the ascended tier heroes in the Crystal.
@wise merlin alright thanks Nicky, any set up changes I should make in terms of crystal?
Aha, makes sense.
@urban trellis Estrilda would be a better choice than Numisu.
As for Raine, instead of Ferael.
Raine for Guild raids, that bonus damage is priceless!
Estrilda, overall good buffs, utility, stuns, and global damage reduction, again, Priceless!
@wise merlin thanks!
Anytime, Adventurer 
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
Saveas, belinda and tasi are tearing through stage 10 like its butter, wow
@spring igloo both of them are good As a tank
Any help? Stage 10-32!!
@ivory swan I would power level saveas to max and drop Belinda. Replace Lucius with Khansos and Belinda with arden
Actually if you don't have Arden try nemora
@drowsy marlin replace lyca with Athalia Nd target saveas. Maybe use Arden over Tasi at low level he is better CC especially when you're LVL 160
still cannot reach 160
Well even before that he is better than Tasi. She only becomes better imo after 201 and that's because Arden just gets one shot. His CC is still the strongest in game imo
problem is they got shot too fast
i think i have to lvl a bit the mobs
i miss dmg too
hey guys, my graveborn team atm is thoran grezhul front isabella shemira ezizh back, would it be better to switch out either thoran or grezhul with nara and food on of the swapped to shemira to get her to mythic?
@vast coral Ulmus, Khasos, Sav, Arden and Nemora didn't work.
@wise merlin thanks!
Who should I buy?
Stuck on 12-23, can't kill the damn saveas
Should I play Silvina(Elite+) or Kaz(Elite)? I’m level 39, the characters are around 81-83.
@ivory swan I would probably save up to buy athalia or the other guy since its really the only guaranteed way to get em rn and you already have a copy of both, just depends if you ever use them or not
And I’m on 6th chapter
Need some help :). I feel like I have to be able to win this one, two guild mates are on same lvl of the tower as me but two bosses further in campaign...
I rarely use them
Ah okay, idk then really, if you see a hero you could use there then go for it or ya could wait till it refreshes
Stuck at 16-4. Any lineup suggestions or should I just AFK to push Shem to 180?
In your opinion, what is best for early game? Currently stuck on 5.28 (Brutus boss). I have enough resources for 5-6 lv 61 creatures
Need some help here. 9 40
Anyone
@void compass Shem can't really front row until 161. Have you tried putting Sav in front?
@rigid wolf have you tried going for a faction bonus? Maybe incorporate some CC. Or even swapping in Num? I can't imagine Thane is doing much of anything for you.
@rigid wolf I'd kick thane, since he is weak befor lvl 141 and add in safiya, so you can get faction bonus
Any suggestions for 6-4?
This is my normal team still this mage in the fucks mr so hard with the AoE
Should place shemira more safe and give her duras call if you have that
Just looking for the best way to deal with a brutus campaign lvl 5-20. i Slaughter the whole team besides him then death
struggling 
I feel like I’m hard stuck in late chapter 7 of the Campaign. Any suggestions on comp? My frontline just gets smashed it feels like.
@pale kettle i would try to get saveas to 121 when you can, and then try
tasi
hogan
arden
seirus
saveas
16-39 giving me a fit!
@spare karma put Hogan in front and see if keeping Nemora/Estrilda works better. Also if one the lv 1 Maulers is Brutus 100% use him. A team involving the three graveborn and Lucius+Estrilda would also be worth trying probs
I unfortunately don’t have Brutus. Been struggling to pull a 2nd frontline.
Hogan is frontline
@melrian this is 8-20 it's locked and shem is my best second tank at the moment the others are dying to fast
Stuck at 16-4. Any lineup, artifact swaps, positioning I might be missing?
Any advice as to who to put in my crystal?
@chilly prism I would ask that in the questions channel
Thx 😂👍
@frigid veldt I believe I either used Lyca in place of Brutus and then added Tasi or that might have been the weird one where Nara saved me
16-40. Any thoughts?
Any ideas?
Some help would be amazing, maybe some nice ideas for a lineup?
Switch Shemira with Athalia in positions, then replace Athalia with Lyca or Nemora @high sphinx
Try Lucius over Ezizh... otherwise afk and rant in #русский-чат
@terse bison
Any help on 10-36?
@drowsy marlin You mean 11-36?
Just passed chap 10.. doesn't have Ascended enemies on PvE
yeah 11-36
@drowsy marlin I would place Lyca instead of Lucius if he dies before he can use his ult, place Tasi in Saveas' spot, and try again.
For a more detailed advice, please send your hero roster! ^^
@drowsy marlin Not to mention... you desperately need to breach level 121 ability break, It's an important milestone and level up nonetheless!
Okay.. so first.. why do you have a M Shemira at Crystal? I would remove her from Crystal and in her place put Fawkes in.
If you'd like to know why, ping me.
If you already know, do it as soon as you can! save your Crystal cooldown. ^^
Any help would be nice
@wise merlin any ideas for me? Also 11-36
@terse bison I would think that Brutus 7sec invul would be better than ezizh try that and retry for rng maybe? Otherwise try shem 4 Wilders
Brutus doesn't survive for long enough, the energy regen is more worth it
And Ig I'll try 4 Wilder
16-4 is a hard wall to bump. I did it with shembrut then lyca nemora arden in that order
@high sphinx Oh hello there friend, How're you doing on this lovely day? 
Since 11-36 includes mostly LBs, I would pull up 3 Graveborns, and 2 LBs or Wilder supports.
I would say your formation should look like so;
Arden
Lyca
Saveas
Shemira / Hogan
Nemora / Shemira
(If Nemora can't ult before dying, place Athalia instead, in hopes that Saveas won't annhiliate her)
Okay, that strat apparently works wonders, it's just that Niru's fucking up my day properly lmao
Yeah that level it was always niru and shem left VS my shem. Just gotta pray for good rng from shem silence to hit niru as he ulting so it cancels it @terse bison
Time to spam retry Ig
Yeah that's the best strat in the game lmao @terse bison
@coral solar try not to level everyone evenly like that, get saveas as your main carry to 160 first, keeping arden at 141
16-40 help anyone?
No not even close
Hep
@haughty token lyca is usually a staple in most team comps, the haste gives you a huge advantage, try shembrut and then put your second best boots on arden and hope he roots before the enemy does. Even running lyca Frontline with tasi nemora arden could work with shem away from ogi
So ye, the problem is that Silvina tps on Tasi, then swap on Arden, kill him and her ult oneshot lucius
Any tips for 15-20 ? Got stuck here for a while
Suggestions on my line up and who I should have upgraded first? Just got Brutus
Help me please
Need Help pls
14-38 i need help cant think of an good combination for this
Any advice welcome
help me ;-; I can’t get past 6-36, been stuck for 6 days on it
Please i’m begging someone to help I’m stuck
Lvl up
.-.
I would use tasi i stead of numisu and put an arden in resonating cristal
how good is estrilda in late game
@naive kelp try brutus/hogan frontline tasi/belinda/estrilda backline. or, try hogan/estrilda frontline belinda/tasi/arden backline. ascend belinda to L with those two miraels heh
make sure arden is positioned to vine saveas
@naive kelp brutus thoran tasi belinda seavas
@naive kelp AYYYY
Like anyone can reply to my proble
mirael is discount belinda imo @naive kelp
Please help
Any1 got some ideas?:)
Should try googling "afk arena (+stage you're stuck on)" there are videos that can be helpful for you.
Reset hero’s and dump into Shemira?
@flat flax I would go for
Saveas (he can get's some early kills)
Estrilda
Belinda/Tasi
Lucius
Belinda/tasi (here the one that gets targeted by silvina)
If this doesn't work let's got for the normal team comp, lot of cc - decent dmg with saveas - lyca can tank a bit - 3 bonus - I think it will be enought
Saveas
Lyca
Tasi/Arden
Lucius
Tasi/Arden (silvina's first target)
@gaunt rover not ant closer.. rerolled estrilda to make saves 120, got a little closer when i used golus instead of estrila, but not anywhere close with either setup :/
can anyone help me with this, should i use lyca? or i got nara too
@flat flax I'm sorry u_u tried my best but i'm not good at team comps
I would lvl up your units , lvl 61vs 77 is rough
I would dump all Into Saveas or Brutus and sit back and watch the show
Looks like your Saveas could Cary you already, try swapping him around so he is in a different spot, or remove Hogan and add another mauler for the faction bonus to boost Sav/Brutus
i cant get sav to 81 until the rest are 60 so i guess i'll just wait to get sav to 81
Hey, so right now im sitting at 7-32. It's probably just a xp thingy till i beat it, but i was wondering if i could still cheese it with a different lineup. Since i got Estrilda Legy+Lucius E+.
Since tmw i get the 7 days playing reward with Belinda E+ i was wondering if something like
Tasi
--Lucius
Belinda
--Estrilda
Arden
Might be able to cheese this or even better overall in the long run.
@limber wagon whats your units?
Just wondering overall, why wouldn't you reset saevas for shemira and then level him to 150 or whatever xp you have left? @limber wagon
I think someone told me not to or something like that
isn't the 161 spike big and she is mythic aswell? I mean im not as far as you to know for certain, that's why i am asking.
it is true and she is only 5 levels away from it
well let's wait and see what others say
I'm also thinking that perhaps my other units are just too low level as well 140s vs those 158s
i feel you, im at the same point
but somehow still want to cheese it, even tho it's already a 37% power difference
the enemy sav just does too much damage, it 2 shots every frontliner i've got
@limber wagon hmm...161 shem is really good but do you have anywhere near 12K dust for her?
currently have 10k
oh shit lmao yeah reset sav to 141 and pile lvls on shem when you can get her to 161
ah hm. actually. get your 5 units to 141 if you can first.
I can, but i dont know if that would help massively tbh
@limber wagon You need brutus in crystal. Also try having nemora charm enemy sav.
brutus is only E tho
brutus is still brutus tho
He still gets invulnerable ability.
hm, perhaps i should
If trying that would also probably be worth getting 141 across the board.
not completly related, but what happens after you get the 7 day login reward. Does it start over with the same rewards or do i keep getting E+ Belinda every 7 days?
it disappears
that's sad
I just got ezizh should I change him out for thoran?
I'm stuck on chapter 4-4 with this line up any tips on anything I should change pls let me know
@haughty token you need to interrupt the arden. Drop tasi for athalia and place her in font of opponent arden. use call on shem.
@pale kettle swap luci for brut. and swap shem position with lyca. Use call on shem. replay for good rng.
@dark cedar you have close to no damage. Not many frontlines either.
try
Arden
Saveas
Belinda
Lucius
Tasi.
You're quite underleveled though.
@idle girder You dont have enough damage. No shem? Try
Arden
Vedan/Lucius
Nemora
Brut
Lyca
You're quite underleveled though. If using vedan use dura's eye on him.
@fierce fjord drop tasi for silvina to interrupt the opposing arden.
position
Arden
Lyca
Silv
Brut
Shem.
damn son, sorrowin coming in hot
@novel adder gonna try
I’m currently stuck on 6-4 (Kaz boss) is there anyway I can redistribute my resources to a different hero or am I just SOL for a bit?
Well lads, using 141 brutus worked. Thanks for the help @indigo jolt
I'm stuck on chapter 4-4 with this line up any tips on anything I should change pls let me know
@novel adder showing how its done... Thank you sensei
@pale kettle
You need to reset some of ur units and use the E+ ones on top 5 so you can level your whole roster beyond 100.
Try with
Shem
Hogan
Athalia
Lucius
Vedan.
@burnt knot
try
Belinda
Hogan
Saveas
Brut
Mirael
@novel adder okay, going to drop Tasi, and make the other adjustments. What formation you suggest?
Stuck on 8-40
You must be able to pass with 5 legendary. Just try different comps. What was 8-40 again? Could you show us
I’m fighting this
@lost stratus show me what you are fighting against
@ancient hound he dont have union buff
Any ideas? Thanks
@lost stratus try using saveas as front line and giving him dura's eye artigact. Put lucius mid and nemora behind saveas
@quartz siren
Ogi
Saveas
Estrilda
Thane
Belind
@lost stratus I think the problem is that enemy boss takes out Nemora instantly (?) Or Lucius doesn't survive Brutus. So maybe try Belinda instead of Silvina first, or Lucius level 120 (I also leveled my E+ Lucius ahead of Saveas and I'm in Chapter 9 with worse monster now)
@languid wraith
try
Saveas
Seirus
Estrilda
Luci
Belinda
@limber wagon
try
Estri
Luci
Saveas
Shem
Belinda
@violet pecan Didn’t work out man 😦 I think @ancient hound is right, gonna reset and change up and try his solution
Try Belinda first instead of Silvina for union bonus, could change a lot
I’m stuck on 5-12. I think my main issue is I need to level them up more, but I’d like some advice on this.
@sacred torrent focus on getting a few of them level 61 (for 60 --> 61 buff), not all equal level 😃 Suggest Mirael & Lucius
👍🏻 Anything else?
@sacred torrent Hello friend. ^^
in addition to that, I'd put Estrilda on the bottom frontline, since Silvina will blink behind you and then Estrilda's charge ability won't be as effective, whereas at the bottom, it will attack all 3 of the Maulers presented.
Lucius top Frontline should survive until your Estrilda kills them*, and then Silvina will be turned at by the rest ^^
@lapis roost
yeah underleveled..but try
Saveas
Brut
Eironn
Lyca
Arden.
@bleak nacelle just put him on the crystal and try it out.
You should be swapping your E+ units to be your top 5 though... otherwise you're capped at 100.
@odd egret at the moment you can try over-leveling vedan and putting all your best gear on him. at 61 and more he can solo carry for a while.
since lots of comm supporters are on....any advice? or should i just lvl shem slowly?
fwiw silvina targets tasi
@wise merlin Mirael keeps going out pretty quickly.
So level her and Lucius and change the lineup
Yes, Lucius heals allies from level 61, will help Mirael
@gilded fractal I would put Brutus up against Vedan, for more survivability and reducing defense while Shemira will be on the bottom frontline, if that doesn't happen, then I really have no clue what to do :x I've yet to reach the round myself.
@sacred torrent In that case, make sure your Mirael is as far as possible from Belinda, because Belinda's normal attacks are bugged out when facing an enemy that's behind her, it just doesn't work unless the Silvina is right ontop of her.
Okay so swap Mirael and Raine?
Yes, essentially. ^^
Any help ? Still stuck!
@ancient hound Belinda got nuked even harder lmao. I think I’ll just be taking my time to level up a bit more and progress after that.
Looking for suggestions. Have tried switching out the non-LB troop for tasi, nemora, shem, and fawkes. Have tried different positional. Nothing seems to be working. Usually get shredded before lucius ultimate is up
@sacred torrent you need a cc unit. got arden?
This is who I have @gilded fractal
These are the rest of my troops
@surreal valley
Kinda early to spend on resets.. probably not worth.. just afk a bit and from now onwards put all your resources into shemira to 100 she should carry for a while.
@violet pecan
You can try
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Saveas
Arden.
Saveas shouldn't be put in front of so much focus him targetting brut is kinda bad.
Or swap sav for shem.. she might work with the wilder support.
@novel adder saveas is getting haste down... becoming useles... lower dmg than lyca
@violet pecan drop tasi for nem and try to charm the golus.
@gilded fractal
Try this positioning
Tasi
Brut
Lyca
Shem
Arden
use dura's call on shem
So I tried Athalia where Shem is and replaced Tasi with Shem and call. Still didn't work. Did you have another formation in mind @novel adder?
Any help?
@wet notch maybe try to put Eironn front-top and burst Niru down? Otherwise idk, you might have kinda weak monsters
can you help me make a team? ive been soloing shem till 4-32
@novel adder thanks ill give it a couple shots!
@onyx basin Hogan/ Mirael/ Belinda (union) + Shemira & Khasos. But you're definitely going to need better monster 😃
@ancient hound I can try that, but yeah I see that my team is kinda weak I've had terrible luck with pulls, I can never get doubles for E+ and E is kinda useless
@drowsy marlin Hey there. ^^
Maybe, place Brutus against Estrilda, and Saveas on the top front, while putting Tasi in the middle backline?
Offered formation;
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Lucius
Athalia
Also, please do not that you should definitely take Shemira out of the Crystal and in her place, put Fawkes, since he's L tier, and Shemira is M tier (level max cap would increase by 20 until you'll have 5 M tier heroes, which will increase it by another 20!)
Holy shit it worked
@ancient hound thanks account is ~10h old XD
@wise merlin i switched shemira!!
@drowsy marlin Is that an old picture? 😂
Can anyone Help me?
@regal pier Yes, hello. ^^
Place Mirael instead of Shemira, and Estrilda instead of Isabella, Lightbearers have a major faction advantage over Maulers...
Not to mention faction bonus 20% HP! Give it a shot! ^^
@wise merlin yeah thi is updated! You suggest this formation?
@drowsy marlin Lucius instead of Saveas, and then it's my formation, it seems like it could maybe work.. hopefully so.
@regal pier for you also goes to focus on buff-points (each 20 levels). Getting Saveas 101 will give him some additional damage
Someone help me please, I’m stuck stuck! 😫
@wise merlin thanks
@novel adder ty, but what do you think about the overall switch to a light+wilder setup?
gonna copy it, so you don't have to search it
Hey, so right now im sitting at 7-32. It's probably just a xp thingy till i beat it, but i was wondering if i could still cheese it with a different lineup. Since i got Estrilda Legy+Lucius E+.
Since tmw i get the 7 days playing reward with Belinda E+ i was wondering if something like
Tasi
--Lucius
Belinda
--Estrilda
Arden
Might be able to cheese this or even better overall in the long run.
damn..this is neverending lol
@drowsy marlin
try
Sav
Luci
Athalia
Brut
Fawkes.
@terse blaze
You needa bit of levels.. the 101 breakpoint will help a alot..
But you can try swapping Saveas and Estri position. Try another iteration with thoran in place of hogan.. The opponent's aoe is difficult to deal with atm.
@wise merlin tasi get insta shotted and noone is able to last till special! Maybe i just need to lvl up things
Hi you all, is my team atm the best i can build for pve? First 5 are the aktive ones
@drowsy marlin Ah that's unfortunate... though It's understandable, having at least level 141 as lowest level would probably help but I think that at level 127 you could try again and see how well Tasi survives.
@wise hinge Your team looks scary good 😅
Sometimes you'll need to play with your formation, or swap out Hogan for Estrilda, for the bonus overall damage and damage reduction... stuns, etc.
But overall it looks the best to me! ^^
@pale kettle use the three maulers for the faction damage bonus. Plus Tasi/ Shemira I suggest. Maybe switch Tasi/ Shemira for more burst into 1 place.
Saveas
Brutus
Tasi
Khasos
Shemira
Yeah they hit me too hard😭
@ancient hound k ty, I will try
I was afraid of that. 1200 dust to get each of my remaining crystalloids to 101. Taking ages to collect. Thanks for the tips @novel adder .i will try to adjust position and switch in thordan (but he was getting roasted last time I tried him)
@wise merlin thx, worked at the stage i stucked :D
@wise hinge Nice! 😁 I'm happy to hear! best of luck to you friend! 
@lapis roost yeah you could try that.. its uncommon but overleveled estri can be decent dps. After 121 she also can start pumping energy for the team. You could also run with
Saveas
Brut
Estri
Luci
Belinda
when raw damage is needed over cc. Run with a light core and mauler/wilder flex pick
@terse blaze he gets roasted but he reflects some damage and revives so not too bad. make sure to buy the dust from the shop with gold daily.
I.. Wait.. What... I didn't even think to buy the dust 🤦
wow.. we covered most of it.. great job guys hhahhaha @ancient hound @wise merlin
@supple notch ty, yeah was thinking about having brutus, saevas, lucius, estrilda and lyca as main and put the rest in the crystal. Like nemora, tasi, arden
^^ I see it as puzzling, like to be in this channel when I have time
@novel adder You too 😊 
Thanks so much to all the helpers here. You're all amazing :D
@terse blaze It's tough sometimes but with the right demeanour things can go perfect ☺
i usually stay away from lineup help because there's just so many to cover and each takes a while.. lol
Hawlp •~•
@pale kettle You basically need to reset Lucius, Tasi, Athalia, and Nemora, and in their place, put Khasos, Belinda, Saveas, and Hogan, and level them all up to 100, they're E+ tier, they might help you more!
Not to mention, you've reached your level cap and can't progress further with Crystal levelling, while they are E+ tier, meaning their cap is 120!
@pale kettle i think i tagged u up there too
Hard stuck here for 2 days. Any ideas? I’m thinking of resetting to put in Sherima Bedan but no idea if it will work
@silk dew just put Belinda for silvina and swap saveas and tasi on spots
@silk dew usually not worth resetting just to beat walls early game.
You probably need some levels in sav.
Try dropping tasi for belinda, numisu for silvi. Hopefully formation bonus helps and numisu totems will distract the aoe.
@novel adder woohoo! Dont know if giving estrilda 101+ did it, or perhaps actually remembering to equip thordan (he might've been naked earlier) but I beat it! Thanks!
@vapid meadow kinda underleveled but you could try swapping hogan and estri position. And or try this
Thane
Shem
Estri
Hogan
Nem
@terse blaze nice 😄
My current team is Brutus,shemira,Lucius, nemora and saveas.
Should I replace someone?
@real lintel you're still very early game. feel free to experiment.. Those are all great units but its never a 1 team beats all thing.. be flexible .
Having said that.. some tips.. only level 5 heroes.. the rest are kinda wasted resources. Also you need to fill your top 5 with at least E+ units for now... otherwise your crystal is going to be capped at 100.
You should try to focus more levels on shem.. Brut is E and stuck on 100.. and he's kinda meh early game.
Still stuck here, I could add two more in Cristal if needed 🤔
@novel adder i tried it some times didnt work ty for advice do
@brave grove Place Nemora instead of Tasi, so she will charm their Isabella, dealing damage to Vedan, sometimes Ira, plus her healing would work wonders.
Pray for the best! ❤ nothing else I can think of, really. 😅
Hey, best overall team rn? (Stuck at 9-20 atm)
@velvet epoch Allow me to direct you to the very last Pinned message made by Aerostati in this chatroom
@brave grove try
Sav
Shem
Vurk/Khasos
Thoran
Khasos/Vurk
retry so you get a favourable charm (on vurk/khasos/thoran instead of shem/sav)
Ty both will see if any of this works 
@wise merlin was on mobile (couldn't see pins)
still, the question was not directly involved with being stuck, was just an extra information... the real question is what's the best comp atm! (even tho it might not work at 9-20!)
thank you very much for the information and i'll make it useful! (reading the guide atm 😛 )
EDIT1: atm I'm using 1 Ezizh; 2 Thoran; 3 Saveas; 4 Belinda and 5 Tasi
@velvet epoch Of course ^^
Additionally, I believe that once reaching level 121 with Saveas, everything will be fine for you! for every kill (or kill assist), he heals for a massive amount, allowing survivability and more hastes!
I would maybe place Athalia to attack any of their damage dealers while Tasi is growing on energy, allowing her to use her ult while Saveas and Ezizh are still alive is a massive advantage!
@velvet epoch you only have gb frontliners.. so go with that
Saveas
Vedan
Shem
Thoran
Nara/silvi
You can swap in tasi/nemora/numisu on stages where u need the utility.
Ezizh has reaches his cap unless u get 2 more copies, you need a team with synergy to really utilise him.. bench for now.
if you really want u can use him as ur flex pick as well
thank you @wise merlin and @novel adder for your help!
never tried that comp 'cuz somehow I feel like Shemira is "useless" (atm), since I can't feel her "ultimate" or basic spells hurting anyone...
11-16 help? I’m all in on Saveas but maybe there’s a better way lol
she's underleveled.. she's not going to carry. But if you see the stats she will do decent damage because its full team aoe.
I need Help 16-40
Vedan gets one shotted by Niru and Isabella at the very beggining everytime... AFK here I go xD
@vocal saddle he just needs more levels.. thats the saveas way.
You can try cheesing a bit with Eironn in centre (where arden is)
and either safiya/arden at the bottom.. With some rng he might be able to get some nice aoe swipes on 4 heroes.
@wintry bloom you need to disrupt the arden. Either with silvi or athalia
Try
Nemo
Lyca
Silv
Brut
Shem
Or shem to silv slot and athalia at the bottom.
I'd replace the Archer with tasi
Stuck on 10-20 now but soooo close, thinking of refunding a hero to get thane to 141.. but maybe not needed? Any input would be appreciated
@novel adder silvi attacks nemora At First...
any tips ? 6-20
This is what I think my best team is currently. Any ideas on who I could put to make a better team?
@novel meteor You could always swap Athalia for Nemora when in need of a support, or for Arden when in need of cc, and overall damage.
@strong moss Hello friend! Have you received an advice yet? If not, feel free to ping me again! ☺
@trail gulch Hey there ^^
I would replace Thane and Brutus' positioning, having a Brutus cover up a Saveas and a Nemora is far more critical than an Athalia who lunges at the enemy!
Stuck on 6-36. Tried top row. Also tried Nemora + 4 graveborn
@wise merlin not yet ! I'll take any advices hehe
Also wondering if I should feed estrilda to Hogan
Should I sacrifice Kaz for Nemora or Lyca?
@strong moss After taking a quick glance at your formation I've noticed that you don't have a lot of Lightbearers!
You should reset your Vedan, and level up your Belinda instead! She's far more reliable with her damage buffs, and her AoE damage early on in the game!
Your new formation should look like so;
Belinda
Hogan
Shemira
Grezhul
Raine
For the 3-2 faction bonus which grants you 20% more HP and attack rating!
@burnt knot #classic-questions
@vale ingot I believe that levelling up a little to 93 would help you wonders! try to put Arden, Hogan, Brutus, Nemora, and Saveas in the formation!
Will do! Thanks.
@wise merlin I'll try that and get back to you
Suggestions for this level?
@tawdry cipher reset sav and get everyone to 141, the bonus skills unlocked will help big time
Might have to get one more Belinda first before any of that happens
@wise merlin still no luck as is, their front kind doesn't seem to matter
@novel adder ok so I am going to lvl up Lucius,shemira,nemora and brutus(when I get a copy of him) but who should be the fifth char for me?
@trail gulch No difference from the last formation and this one?
Having some trouble with 12-40. Any ideas from my lineup?
@wise merlin nope
@wild yacht try this
Belinda
Estrilda
Nemora
Kaz
Ira
Kaz made it worse. Her dodging just makes Niru move in to the middle of the bottom three heroes and start killing them all woth his aoe
Also i have the first 4 dura artifacts if that helps any
Lineup check: this look like the optimal lineup for my roster?
Is 5 elite hero stone worth 90 diamonds?
Best lineup for me ?
If anyone can help with the line up just went from 8-20 to 8-38 with this one but nimisu dies to fast and can't the brutus so he can't use his ult
Can I get some help feel like I'm all over the place
Can someone help me?
Any help with this level? Been stuck for a while, I’m also stuck on the tower. The vedan&saveas combo is hella annoying xD
need help
Anyone have any ideas for me here on 20-33? Thinking I might be stuck until i can get lucky enough to ascend 4 more heroes.
Don't mind the JRE Podcast in the top right, but should I ascend Shemira now? Or should I hold off and keep the Isabella/Vedan E+ since I'm a lower level right now
@fleet kernel don't use Isabella as ascending fodder
So hold off for now until I get something else
Yes
Is there still just nothing I can do at all?
On the dreaded 9-20 line up or advice?
@tulip meadow
Try
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Ulmus/Lucius/Shemira
Nemora
New player, I've hit a hard wall at ch.6 level 28 and the 79th floor in the tower. Shemira, Grezhul, Nara, Baden, and Ferael are my usual lineup. I use Nara to bully weaker dps or support with her chain skill. Sometimes I'll use Silvina instead of Ferael. Where I fall short the most seems to be my frontline. Grezhul does alright against Niru or for taking hits from mages but physical units like Khasos, Golus, or Brutus chew him up and then it all starts falling apart. Any suggestions? Half a mind that I just need to collect more afk experience, I've been blitzkrieging since install 😂
have you tried isabella or something with utility ie arrdne?
I've tried Isabella and Belinda instead of Ferael but not with any cc like Arden. I'll give it a shot.
Try pinned message @steep hull.
Need help
@steep hull good luck @peak sonnet have u trie dshemira front
How can I pass stage 9-20
Sorry, not used to discord on phone, but does anyone have any ideas on how to counter this fight?
@still oar Appreciate it, had some useful info. 😃
Any tips for 9-20 ?
@ashen mason first of all, reset that estrilda and level that silvina so your heroes in the crystal can surpass the level cap.
Ok
@ashen mason show us the line up your fighting against
Hold on brb
Who do I use for 8-40
@hard hollow you really need a healer like nemora tbh
Unfortunately I don't
try using athalia instead of shem
Can someone tells ne what to do so i can pass 9 20
Btw 11-24 legendary drop is a lie I had a leg drop by 8-36 while afk
@vocal garden whats your gear like
@outer elk show the lineup your fighting against
@verbal sierra Only mythics are on shemira and brutus, but not bad, do you want photos?
My current semeria gear only one that has legendary equip
you can change gear about though
I've got the strongest i could get in past few days
i change gear all the time
@hard hollow I believe it is 10-22 for l+ gear not just legendary from afk.
@vocal garden assuming difference in overall power i think its you need levels. now you could win with lower pwer but need strong cc arden fawkes etc
Humm my Toon's comments mention legendary not +
most of the time the best way to beat a level is faction advantages and bonuses
@verbal sierra yes, but she dies instantly
you would need some strong gear then
any help ?
What is my best team?
@versed canopy
Try
Saveas
Golus
Arden
Hogan
Tasi/Khasos
why is your saveas front and khasos back
Any help
Replace belinda with a cc/support hero
But what lineup
@ashen mason I would say you're underlevelled. Focus on saveas.
Best bet formation is something like
Saveas
Kaz
Silviana
Hogan (Thoran may be better)
Arden/Tasi
Oh ok
Stuck on 8-32 i feel like im way ahead of where i should be
It was just a general advice. Line up idk.. you dont have much.
Maybe:
Seavas/arden
Silvina/seavas
Tasi/arden
Hogan/kaz
Kaz/raine/lyca
@limber copper
You're just low on damage i feel. Who does silviana jump?
Arden
But arden is alright dying first i just use him to try and take agro for a bit and maybe tangle
??
@limber copper I try to avoid sacrificing heros when against niru it powers him up.
Try
Saveas
Estri
Mirael
Lucius
Tasi
Any more ideas?
@ashen mason Who was the problem hero?
I don't really use kaz/silv
Who would you recommend? Also the problem is hogan and kaz
@indigo jolt I’ll let you know how that setup goes, this picture is as close as I’ve gotten with my setup
@soft igloo
Maybe this, but will work when nemora charms saveas
Nemora
Brutus
Saveas
Athalia (if cant kill estrilda fast switch to estrilda/thoran)
Arden
ty
@ashen mason
Did you try the setup i suggested earlier?
Saveas
Kaz
Silviana
Hogan (Thoran may be better)
Arden/Tasi
Any tips here ?
@indigo jolt I need to wait till 7 ok
Any tip for my lineup, it's currently brutus, saveas, hogan, nemora, and Arden. I'm on stage 5-36
Need help with this stage. In a best case scenario I can get it down to a 1v1 between my shemira and his vedan and I lose
@grim hatch
Arden/tasi
Brutus
Shemira
Lyca
Nemora
Try to charm estrilda. Maybe
Try
Tasi/Arden
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
try using graveborns to get a factional advantage
Need help getting through 13-7 . will post my legends in one moment. Thanks in advance
Not sure if I should put Brutus in over hogan and use hogan to make Belinda mythic. Or do something completely different
Been stuck in 11-36 for weeks
Estrilda just tanks so much and kills Saveas, Angelo just lives because of her
@open thicket go to questions. However i would personally mythic belinda and use hogan as fodder only if you have enough to keep 5 leg+ and if you have a tank to put on front line. If you don't. Wait. What others would say is keep hogan
Could use some help with this stage
Help with 13-15 please!
Any help?
any general tips and progression tips for chapter 13? stuck on 13-4
my team is brutus shimera tripple support wilder
Is it worth getting Estrilada L+ using Labrynth Coins?
Idk
14-8 hep
Stuck at 15-40
This team breezed through everything up to this point but now they are stuck, I assume it's cause tasi/Arden are only elite...
@random verge No, it's because your team deals little to no damage. Replace Lyca, Arden, or Tasi with Mirael/Vedan, Replace Hogan with Ogi. Even at E Tasi is okay, Arden is semi-okay, and Lyca is just for the haste at that point.
Alright I'll try that out, thanks
@random verge Put whoever Silvina keeps targetting behind Ogi and try to get him to E+ at the very least.
@true prawn Level Saveas to 141 asap if you plan to use him.
Lucius Hogan
Belinda Saveas Fawkes/Arden
Any help?

Saveas two shots all my tanks.. and 1 shots the mages and Agility heroes..
@viscid pine can you enlighten me in how I can pull sav cause so far he is the only thing that kills anyone here. I've tried using the new graveborn but he just 1/2 shots her and kills Shemira next.
wdym how to pull Sav?
I think he meant Sav closer to his teammates for a cc battle
I suggest you put him agaisnt Warek, also Nemora’s charm can’t go through shields (I think) so try using Grez and Lucius for shields? Shemira can also Silence Nemora.
Nemora’s charm is rng, so just retry over n over.
I succeeded finally only to get stuck against a Shemira and a silvina who insta kills my backrow... like this lab hates me
Do I have any shot here on 14-38? I’ve tried a handful of lineups and everything just seems to get insta-wiped. Maybe I’m missing the gear and levels?
Just hit 7.4 section and slowly struggling my current lineup is this any suggestions for a better line up
i have 1 crystal spot open
I can get hogan or Arden to legendary. Suggestions for team comp?
If I could get tasi or Ira to L, which I'm fairly close to, which one should I do? My comp rn is
Fawkes/Ira
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Saveas
Any thoughts?
@silver pebble who do you have to sacrifice to get said heros to L? And why dont you combine your guys? You have so many duplicates that could be higher
Also, Hogan and Arden are 2 different factions so why couldnt you do both??
@minor wedge I wasn’t sure who to level. I would sacrifice rares. I could do both, but idk if it’s a waste
Worth using Labrynth Coins for Estrilada L+?
I've been told to get everyone up to 81 at least and then level saveas as much as you can. Hes a beast that can sustain really well and has crazy dmg
@minor wedge yeah, I’m leveling saveas, just wasn’t sure if I should bother with hogen/Arden or focus on my other guys instead
Can anyone plz help me?
I kinda wanna say go Belinda but I'm not sure how good Arden is. Belinda was clutch for me with my current line up. Where are you at in pve? @silver pebble
@scenic knoll nada, I don’t know how shemira carries adjust lineup
I need help on forming a team please
I’m assuming your Arden is getting murdered though by liliana so I would try to use nemora instead
@minor wedge Arden is great pre-161. So until Ch 15 or so
@minor wedge I’m at 8-12, I could probably evolve Belinda as well. So many options lol. What level are u at?
Advice on this level?
Just got to 8-4 I think @silver pebble
@minor wedge oh cool, so we are roughly in the same area
@minor wedge Arden is really strong at level 141
Sorry. I'm catching up, 8-8. So yeah pretty close. I've been using this lineup for a loooong time and it's still working. Eklypz justsaid Arden is great til ch 15 or so, so I'd get him to L. I was told to go Belinda over Hogan for L and it was real good for me
@minor wedge cool, thanks!
@silver pebble sometimes it's also just a bit of rearranging your current lineup. I got stuck at 8-8 just now with Isabella and switched up my placements and went from total team wipe to 3 people left on the field. Rng
I suppose to pass this easily with my +1 Shem .... help
@silver pebble for you, the classic team comp of shemira, Lucius, nemora/Arden, tasi and lyca will take you far
pls help me get pass this stage 6-28
@minor wedge yeah, I’ve noticed that as well
@sour plinth is there a reason you using nemora over tasi? Any levels with liliana I try to make my tasi have the lowest defense so she can (hopefully) teleport away when liliana teleports in to attack
@wispy cosmos Shemira over saveas? I thought Shem wasn’t good until later on
@silver pebble Shem isn't great until 160+
@minor wedge sometimes it’s just complete RNG. I’ve done 100 iterations of a fight where I can get wiped out in 10 seconds flat to completing the stage with 4 alive. Same comp and same positions
Still looking to hear if I should Legendary + my Estrilada with Labrynth coins....
@wispy cosmos I've definitely noticed that too. Just beat 8-12 and theres no way I shouldve stayed alive through it. Made it out with a sliver of hp on Saveas though. Luck landed in my favor
@wispy cosmos it doesn’t matter what I use, it’s always just one shot by silvina
@silver pebble shemira can serve as a tank of sorts when overleveled and at 161+ because she can heal. You can probably alternate between the two based on whether you need AOE or single target dmg
@wispy cosmos yea, once I get to 161, I’ll use shem instead, but that will take a while
Just recently got Shemira as my first 161. Need some help with my lineup as it has shaken my lineup up quite a bit for me. Currently on 13-20.
@sour plinth is that the level where liliana is the boss? I’m not sure how to handle that well with a shemira carry. I run thane/Brutus with triple wilder and it’s a way different strategy.
stuck on 9-28, any hope with any of these guys or am i stuck for a bit?
which one is liliana?
The assassin chick who attacks the person with the lowest defense
do you use top 5 as your lineup? @young kraken
Oh sorry, I meant Silvana. Dunno why I’m getting that confused
no, its been brutus > hogan/golus(if i need buff)>saveas>lyca>tasi, for the most part
its 16-20