#lineup-help

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swift yoke
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switch Belinda with Arden, and Nemora with Lyca, and you win. Easily

pale kettle
faint quest
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Wish it was that easy Saveas keeps living and killing me

willow merlin
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@faint quest need to afk i think and level up

faint quest
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Yea what I was thinking pretty much

frigid dagger
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@faint quest U try already with Lucius?

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@faint quest Maybe u can top down Lucius shemira, top down tasi lyca nemora, if it doesnt work top down brutus Lucius, top down tasi nemora shemira

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U can try too the same first one but brutus instead Lucius

marsh rose
hasty dawn
modest dove
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should i continue to focus level like i did shemira or start spreading the leveling equally now?was thinking leveling nemora to 160 1st then spread the love..am trying get another leg+ so my brutus can last 7sec instead of just 3 now but till then what should i do that will be most benificial?

frigid dagger
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@marsh rose What r u fighting?

marsh rose
frigid dagger
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@hasty dawn U can try reset nemora and use her xp on arden, after that u can change fawkes with nemora, u gonna get faction bonus, maybe that can work, i'm not sure

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@marsh rose That brutus can be a problem... Use Silvina instead morvus i'm not sure who she gonna Focus on but his ult is very useful if u use it well

hasty dawn
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hmm actually I switched my formation a little, managed to clear like this:
nemora
Brutus
Fawkes
Golus
Lyca.
thanks though :)

pale kettle
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I m from turkey.
Chat for turkish langu came discord pls.

marsh rose
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Thanks @frigid dagger made it barely on the 7th try xD raine was the only one left with about 2% vs brutus

tawdry cipher
frigid dagger
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@tawdry cipher saveas can tank estrilda?

signal aurora
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Can help to advise if my top 5 is current my best heroes? Which 2 can used as tank?

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I am stuck at champian & King's tower and cannot progress

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I am using saveas & silvna in my front 2 now

runic tundra
frigid dagger
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@signal aurora U should use a real tank, reset saveas and lvl up grezhul with his xp, then u top down grezhul Silvina top down arden nemora shemira

still oar
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Yes try that @runic tundra. Wrizz can't be cc'ed so debuff and buff is the option. If you still can't kill him sacrifice random heroes to bail

runic tundra
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noted

frigid dagger
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@signal aurora If the enemies when Silvina jump go first for arden then switch shemira with him

signal aurora
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@frigid dagger thanks for advise.. Can I know why saveas is weak point... I read so many online guide and all say saveas dominate early game?

midnight crag
frigid dagger
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@signal aurora Saveas is a beast early game yes, but I think u need a real tank and grezhul elite can be better in Ur stage

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@signal aurora if u try what I said and Silvina doesnt jump then switch shemira with her

signal aurora
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Will try @frigid dagger

quaint spruce
wise merlin
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@quaint spruce How did you... How did you manage to get 2 Vedan L's as your first L's?!

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Or at all??? xD

quaint spruce
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They keep appearing in my summons

wise merlin
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That's amazing..

quaint spruce
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I fed by epic + vedan to my shemira cuz itโ€™s useless

wise merlin
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Vedan is slightly useless

quaint spruce
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I canโ€™t seem to get a second brutus:((

wise merlin
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By the end of chapter 14 you're guaranteed a Brutus ^^

quaint spruce
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omg Iโ€™m 5 chapters away ๐Ÿ˜ญ

signal aurora
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@frigid dagger it is much better.... Managed to clear the champian.. Thx again

torpid stirrup
frigid dagger
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Nice, happy for u

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@torpid stirrup I think Lucius is better

torpid stirrup
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aight, did lucius

frigid dagger
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@torpid stirrup But don't use Belinda yo ascend him

torpid stirrup
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nah, i used mirael

abstract tartan
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Hey guys been reading a bit about Saveas, Brutus and Nemora being better for mid game. Is it worth me building a team around those? My current team is Lucius, Nara, Shemira, Silvina and Raine
That image is basically all the important units I have

midnight crag
still oar
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Luc shem
Nemo lyca you have then tasi @midnight crag

limber copper
crimson bolt
modest dove
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hi need some advice pls..should i continue to focus level like i did shemira or start spreading the leveling equally now?was thinking leveling nemora to 160 1st then spread the love..am trying get another leg+ so my brutus can last 7sec instead of just 3 now but till then what should i do that will be most benificial?

frigid dagger
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@modest dove I have shemira and Lucius 180, the rest of my team is 141 and it's been working good for now so my suggestion is focus on lucius now until u reach 160, after that u can focus on arden

fair sky
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Could someone suggest me a lineup for 10-36? :)

rigid hamlet
wise merlin
sharp heron
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sorry

iron fern
pale kettle
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Hey

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Any ideas for this badass Stage?

placid tinsel
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@iron fern me too! If you got something... Let me know.. Would be great if someone can help

pale kettle
iron fern
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@placid tinsel lol ill tag you if I get it

wise merlin
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@iron fern You must unlock Saveas' level 121 as soon as you can, that 20% health heal for every kill or kill assist is a legendary buff for this guy and he will carry you out of it. No doubt belindakiss

iron fern
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@wise merlin thanks for that, I'm close on dust so we'll see!

wise merlin
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@iron fern @placid tinsel

May you both send a screenshot of your hero rosters, please? I'll be able to form a formation for both ^^

placid tinsel
iron fern
wise merlin
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@placid tinsel Your formation can win!

Place it like so;

Saveas
Athalia
Lyca
Lucius
Fawkes

If that doesn't work, swap Lucius for Estrilda, her first ability stun is priceless against Vedan! (Just make sure to restart level if he dodges her stun)

rigid hamlet
wise merlin
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@rigid hamlet You're doing it really well! Keep levelling up Saveas to 117 then split your resources around the rest

Prioritize : Hogan, Estrilda, Tasi, then Nemora.

rigid hamlet
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@wise merlin thank you.

versed forge
swift yoke
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I would say use this comp; it should work, I think

Nemora
Arden
Lyca
Lucius
Seveas

wise merlin
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@swift yoke Copycat >~>

exotic cedar
swift yoke
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Hello Nicky, how are you doing? Thinking of deleting all of your lightbearers? :3

wise merlin
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@swift yoke I'm planning on reaching Ascended Estrilda x3

swift yoke
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Nooo please don't, then you can't fodder her

wise merlin
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XD

versed forge
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arden in front? seems weird

spring igloo
placid tinsel
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@wise merlin thanks! I will try it

rigid hamlet
swift yoke
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@exotic cedar Try this;

Seveas
Lucius
Athalia
Skryg
Tasi or Nemore

exotic cedar
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Oh. Thanks!

wise merlin
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@rigid hamlet You can't level up Athalia, unless you'll get all of your E+ tier heroes to level 101.

limber copper
wise merlin
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Regardless, she's in the Crystal, hence, her level is locked and only follows the Crystal

swift yoke
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@versed forge Ok so Arden, is a hero that is used just for root. That's it, you don't really need him to damage or anything, so he can tank, because all you need is his root. he can rip after that, same goes to lyca, she is used for her haste (startup ability) then she can rip after that

versed forge
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Ye I know

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but because my heroes are so low, arden ends up dealing a significant portion of the damage.. and if lucius survives long enough, arden ends up rooting like 4-5 times per fight

rigid hamlet
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@wise merlin I meant like take her out and change my set up. Is my set up good for now then?

wise merlin
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@iron fern Once you have managed to get Saveas to 121, DM me if it makes you more comfortable! ^^

versed forge
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I think I'm severely under leveled for stage 12-12. all my friends at this level already have 1-2 mythic heroes but I o my have 2 leg+ heroes

wise merlin
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@rigid hamlet Your setup is perfect the way it is.

Rather... It'd be an awful choice to remove an E+ tier from your 5 main when it's your current highest level cap for Crystal

swift yoke
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@versed forge your seveas is 160, he should be able to deal enough damage to kill all 5. And no, you don't need a mythic at chapter 12. My first M was around chapter 16

rigid hamlet
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@wise merlin awesome thank you. Still learning sorry.

wise merlin
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@rigid hamlet Don't apologize for still learning! Bless up for learning! ๐Ÿ™Œ

iron fern
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Thanks @wise merlin, you're really helpful here, appreciate it and keep it up! space

swift yoke
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@versed forge give it a try, you could even try to switch between lyca and arden. And tbh, I prefer to not use arden and nemora at the same lineup. Either Arden or Nemora

wise merlin
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Of course ๐Ÿ˜Š

versed forge
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anyway that suggested lineup didn't work...
silvina kills nemora instantly and heals niru, saveas kills arden in 2 hits and then the rest of the team. dies within 5 seconds

tulip elm
swift yoke
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@tulip elm Yeees, switch Arden with Belinda and you should be able to win. Or you could try to switch Arden with Athalia. Anyway, it is always better to hide Belinda behind estralida

wise merlin
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@tulip elm Place Athalia in Saveas' spot, focusing the Saveas out first might be optional.

Then try again :x

swift yoke
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and your lucius is an E+, I think a L+ hog is better than him

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Try nicky idea first, if it doesn't work then try mine

tulip elm
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Ok. Let me try it :3 too bad my Athalia is just E ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

wise merlin
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@tulip elm Athalia might be E but she's level 140... Imagine her power once you'll have full lvl 141 heroes.. ๐Ÿ˜‚

tulip elm
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I can also make Belinda Mythic, but Iโ€™ll lose hogan then ๐Ÿ˜„
And I need 3,5k essences! Not much! 5 days max ๐Ÿ˜„

spring igloo
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no? ehh okay...

wise merlin
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@spring igloo Have you asked anything? :x

tulip elm
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My tanks just die. They donโ€™t hold for more than 5 seconds xX

wise merlin
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@tulip elm It's probably because of Khasos.. think you could stick Fawkes anywhere there? :x

spring igloo
tulip elm
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Huh. I switched Athalia for Fawkes and I was 1 hit away from killing their Saveas. Other 3 alive were on 10% hp. So I might switch a little and win it actually

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Lemme try Arden in place of Belinda and it might work!

wise merlin
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@spring igloo Placing Lucius up against Brutus is the better choice, Brutus doesn't interrupt Lucius' heal and he can tank him better.

Place Fawkes instead of Shemira, ensuring the absence of any of them would be really helpful, too!

You could always place Nemora if you feel like her RNG charm will be helpful rather than Fawkes.

tulip elm
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Saveas died. Others survived. Damn. Hard one.

spring igloo
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@wise merlin It doesn't matter if Lucius or Seirus are opposite Brutus, Saveas is killing them in 5sec.

I already did this but the same result.

Nemora? She won't have enough time to charge her ult.

wise merlin
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@spring igloo You'll definitely need Belinda to fight off Saveas, her faction advantage might be proven useful, try this formation;

Fawkes
Seirus
Belinda
Lucius
Saveas

(I would say to put another tank but you don't have one ;x hard spot)

spring igloo
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I already tried this lineup (not working)

wise merlin
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Ah... Well you might need to focus a few more resources.. at least getting them all to lvl 93 will help you wonders.

pearl basin
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I'm still stuck here! HALP! I also have a Elite Tasi and a Elite+ Athalia both level 180! Front row doesn't last long, I also have fully Mythic gear equipped on mains. Level 19-38.

swift yoke
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@pearl basin what level is this?

pearl basin
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19-38

swift yoke
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do you have a tasi?

pearl basin
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Elite Tasi but she die's very fast

wispy vine
swift yoke
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Perfect, then try this;
Tasi
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Shemira
Should work

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I would say Tasi

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tell me how it goes crk, but it should work as an overall

pearl basin
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Tasi and Arden die within a few seconds of the match lol

spring igloo
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@wise merlin okay, we will see when all will get lv93, Thanks

swift yoke
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lyca isn't tanking at all?

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she is M, she should be able to tank

wise merlin
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Hopefully so! ^^

pallid hornet
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any tips for arena/guild bossess?

pale kettle
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Hey! My current team is saveas / brutus front and tasi / lyca / nemora back. Now thats working out pretty good for me but what heroes should I go for in the other factions (i dont have a single shemira/lucius)

pearl basin
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@swift yoke Sadly still no chance, everyone gets destroyed to fast

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Don't know what to do at this point ๐Ÿ˜„

timid lotus
wise merlin
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@pale kettle Please do share your hero roster, for an advice with more quality! ๐Ÿ˜‹

@timid lotus ^

timid lotus
tulip elm
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Omg.... I had khasos on like 5% hp and time runned out ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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I did not criti with Saveas for last 15 seconds. Fml

wise merlin
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@timid lotus Does swapping Khasos for Fawkes help? Who does he catch from that position?

Also, Does Khasos survive better than most other supports you could put there? E.g Tasi, Nemora, etc?

pale kettle
timid lotus
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so do you think khasos is the pivot to change and try for other heroes?
others should be ok?

wise merlin
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@timid lotus In all honesty, yes. Belinda is M tier and her damage buff might be worth to keep.

Brutus and Saveas Frontline is pretty reliable, and Athalia's position to decline Saveas is a really good choice too!

timid lotus
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nemora and tasi getting 1shotted by silvina

wise merlin
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Fawkes might be the better choice then ^^

pale kettle
swift yoke
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Very nice heroes, I would say Saveas, Brutus, Lyca, Tasi and Arden would be a perfect combo for you. You could tank with Brutus and Lyca. Or you could even switch out Lyca with Khasos

native oasis
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anything i can do w/ my team or do i just have to wait for levels?๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜”

swift yoke
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As an overall when you struggle with healing, add Nemora or Khasos to the lineup. If not, then use the lineup I recommended @pale kettle

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Did you try to use Khasos instead of Hog Quire? I think he will come handy in such a scenario. If not, then I guess you can even try Grez

pale kettle
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Im thinking of replacing saveas with khasos eventually

swift yoke
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Seveas is a very helpful hero until you reach the 161 mark. But until then, he is your best dps hero, even better than Shem

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle I believe only Shem 161 can replace Sav. But Sav is still good till around chap 14/15 I think.

pale kettle
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Yea i love him rn

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Kinda sucks i dont have a single shem copy haha, i can save up fodder for when I do tho

swift yoke
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Yes exactly, Sev is an amazing dps. a hero that exist to make you progress to 161 easier

pale kettle
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Nemora with the energy regain artifact also working out really well for me

limber copper
fierce kayak
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@pale kettle no worries.. you can get the Queen Shem from lab

pale kettle
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Yea true, was picking up nemora for the healing for now

grim river
timid lotus
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@wise merlin no luck ๐Ÿ˜ฆ btw belinda not firing any ulti, she gets 2 shotted by silv

neat spruce
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Need help with who I should use, using all the purple leveled ones atm, should I swap out someone? And who to focus on as highest level

grim river
pearl basin
neat spruce
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I already read the tier list, but I don't understand, using higher tier monster but blue is better than using purple that lower in tier list?

grim river
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Different heroes will work better against different levels/enemies. Use the teir list as a guide as far as who is worth leveling up. No harm in leveling a rare hero because you can ascend them to elite and they won't lose their levels

neat spruce
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so using the purple ones is fine even if they are lower in tier list?

grim river
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Yeah if its working for you, you can do whatever you want. Check some ascension guides cause that's the only spot where you can actually mess up if you use a good hero to ascend someone who's not that good. Everything else in the game is pretty forgiving

pale kettle
wild skiff
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Thats what i got ^ arden or nemora?

wise merlin
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@timid lotus Sorry friend :( hopefully some levels will help!

silent crater
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He keeps spamming that sentence in English Channel whenever someone says something

fierce kayak
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@grim river Sav and 2 to 3 Wilders CC help me a lot in chap 11

main summit
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Am i leveling my heroes right, or shall i make them all 160, very soon i can ascend my shemira then i can make her 200 and the rest 160 ,

grim river
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I've been trying variations of nemora/tasi/lyca/Arden plus sav of course but not having much luck. Whoever else is up front doesn't matter who they just die immediately. If no one can take the heat off of my sav then he just dies and I don't have anyone else alive who can do any damage

fierce kayak
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@grim river o.. Cos my Arden is 141 w 3 roots. With Lyca and RNG.. I sometimes pass the stage with luck. Sometimes Sav is front sometimes b.

grim river
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I can work on getting Arden leveled up some more and see if that works

spring igloo
wise merlin
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@main summit Yes! And it looks like such a good lineup no Crystalized heroes included!

spring igloo
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And I got Nara, should I level up her?

wise merlin
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@spring igloo Skreg against Estrilda? O_O really?

fierce kayak
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@grim river o.. and sometimes lyca in front of Lucius for her haste and keep Lucius alive to heal

spring igloo
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@wise merlin yes, I tried many ways but only this one worked

wise merlin
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@spring igloo That's really impressive! Skreg is pretty underrated so forgive me for not recommending him in the lineup, I'll consider much higher of him and will read into him to know his abilities and powerspikes ^^

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Thank you for the learning material! ๐Ÿ˜‹

spring igloo
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You didn't recommend me Skreg because I didn't had him, I got him 12mins ago. :)

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And what about Nara? Is she good?

wise merlin
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OMG! Talk about luck of the draw x3

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Also, from what I've heard Nara is amazing, I just never tried her.., I wouldn't know

spring igloo
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Okay, I'll try her and I think her hook can be good for Saveas =)

tulip elm
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Woo hooo! I upgraded Belinda to mythic

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Now after I can replace hogan I will be able to make her mythic+

wise merlin
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Ascended โ„ข

tulip elm
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Iโ€™m on 11-32 atm. 9 more to finish 11 and hopefully strong boost with new champions from gems and scrolls :3

heavy mountain
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What is better hogan grezhul or ogi? For front line

tulip elm
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I think it depends on rest of your team. I personally use hogan

heavy mountain
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I'm using brutus and hogan rn

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But thing about brutus is he just gets his health destroyed in fights...

tulip elm
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Fraction bonuses are important. Show your whole squad and champions

heavy mountain
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@tulip elm

hexed sonnet
tulip elm
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@heavy mountain I would go:
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas
Hogan
Fawkes

swift yoke
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also you could try this seveas, brutus, nemora, ira and eironn. It should be a very good combo @heavy mountain

tulip elm
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Never tried Eironn

swift yoke
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share your hero list greytar

tulip elm
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Am I the only one who have an urge to win first 2-3 fights in peaks without losing anyone?

swift yoke
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I repeat some fights up to 20 times xD 10 times, take a break, another 10 times... that has been forever

worthy rain
tulip elm
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@swift yoke on like chapter 9 I had one level I couldnโ€™t go through. One time I just started a fight with team that was losing and I didnโ€™t check my phone. After 10 minutes Iโ€™ve seen victory screen

swift yoke
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Woooow!! It does really happen sometimes xD the randomness plays a big factor afterall

hasty fable
swift yoke
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@worthy rain Seveas, Brutus, Lyca, Tasi, Ogrii

tulip elm
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Yep. Sometimes I know that to make success I need to finish someone with 5 hits from Saveas. Then I restart if it doesnโ€™t happen

swift yoke
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@hasty fable You are only supposed to level 5 heroes, the exp you wasted on Ira, the Witch, Hog, Arden.. etc is all a waste

worthy rain
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Shem has been my biggest dps

hasty fable
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I was experimenting with the team comp, this team i think is my main

swift yoke
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Use the next daily you get (100 Diamond) on resetting the heroes. Only invest your exp and gold on 5 heroes, later on you get a (Crystal) not sure what it is called. But it takes 5 total heroes, and share the lowest level with the rest

stiff ridge
swift yoke
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share your heroes list

stiff ridge
swift yoke
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Shemira, Brutus, Lyca, Arden and Nemora. Try this

stiff ridge
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i did

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sil 1 vs 9

fleet temple
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Anyone can help me true 10-36?

trail gulch
fleet temple
burnt flax
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How can i win?

fleet temple
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@trail gulch lucius , Brutus , saveas , Belinda , nemora thatโ€™s what I would do

tulip elm
timid lotus
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I'd try with athalia instead of arden, put her top to counter savageas

willow merlin
terse blaze
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Just wanted to let you know I finally beat 6-36 @wise merlin ! Used your suggestion but replaced Kaz with Saveas, and had to mess around with order a bunch. Thanks again!

timid lotus
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@wise merlin I've also beaten 12-12, used fawkes as you said (also leveled up savageas a bit)

tulip elm
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I agree @wise merlin is the men!

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@terse blaze Saveas can carry your ass till at least chapter 12!

limber copper
trail gulch
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@fleet temple I'll try it thanks!

limber copper
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Currently stuck on 8-12

tender wraith
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Should I level Saveas or Ira to 141 first?

west iron
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Make kaz L+ or wait to make nemora L+?

trail gulch
uneven fossil
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@tough trail try shemira in front of vedan and arden in the middle

tough trail
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shemira infront of vedan yielded better results, though it always ends up with a 1v2 against vedan and shem

uneven fossil
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@trail gulch replace nemora with saveas but with shemira as tank

wise oxide
uneven fossil
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@tough trail tasi do not "freeze" any of them for a little?

wise oxide
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Any advice on positioning here?

tough trail
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she survives long enough to cast a single ult, then dies rather quickly

uneven fossil
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@wise oxide shemira against strilda, tasi behind her, bellinda middle and estrilda behind lucius maybe

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@tough trail in the long way u maybe need to get another good tank for her ๐Ÿค”

midnight crag
tough trail
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ye, think i also might be needing a few levels, thx for the help

trail gulch
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@uneven fossil keep the two assasins ?

uneven fossil
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yep u also get more bonus faction

frigid veldt
trail gulch
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@uneven fossil cool going to try it in a few minutes I'll let you know how it goes

wise oxide
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@uneven fossil ty for help, got past chap11

gaunt rover
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@frigid veldt Ill recommend you to wait for exp, that stage is a wall, just passed yesterday, my recommendation is to put Nemora for the charm and remove tasi probably cuz backline will get fkd, also lyca won't last a lot in front a shemira so I will say
arden
some tanky hero maybe brutus
lyca
shemira
nemora

Shemira and the tanky one can be interchangable

willow merlin
pale kettle
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@willow merlin Change Vedan with Shemira and send an picture of your Box

merry dagger
granite wigeon
merry dagger
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Planning on leveling up arden. There's also shimura in the shop but idk if I need more dmg or I should replace ferael

wise merlin
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@terse blaze @timid lotus Yay I'm so happy to hear guys!! ๐Ÿ˜ I wish you best of luck further on! space

@tulip elm ๐Ÿ˜‚ you're doing a good job as well friend belindakiss

tulip elm
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@merry dagger just buy shemira every time you can ๐Ÿ˜‰
@wise merlin thanks โค

gaunt rover
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@willow merlin You pushed a lot you may wait a little before continue, if you don't want that try to put a graveborn hero instead of tasii in order to get the 4 bonus, maybe your heroes last a little longer and kill them all, also change your shemira with hogan because Golus is 1: ultra tanky, 2: stuns you

pale kettle
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Need help on 13-32, am I just stuck here until I can level up more or get better gear? ๐Ÿ˜ข

willow merlin
gaunt rover
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Omg i thought someone called me but i remembered im not arturo here, ultra confussed

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@willow merlin Put silvina, you don't need her to do dmg just to get the 4 bonus, is not consistent but it's a trick (sometimes)

tulip elm
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@willow merlin level up Saveas. Reset vampire guy. Plus you donโ€™t need shemira at this point

wise merlin
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I wouldn't recommend to reset anyone too early into the game :x

tulip elm
wise merlin
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If you use them as Fodder you receive the resources anyway without having to pay gems. ๐Ÿ˜ถ that's just me though โ˜บ

willow merlin
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@tulip elm if im not using shemira who will be as tank?

wise merlin
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@tulip elm Athalia in Saveas' spot, Fawkes instead of Arden, and maybe use Estrilda against Golus.

(her first attack prevents him from attacking for a little while and reducing his damage onto your Estrilda potentially.)

New formation;

Saveas
Estrilda
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes

See if it works maybe ^^

tulip elm
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Let me check it! One second!

wise merlin
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I highly doubt my advices when given to people who are ahead of me, so it might not work! ๐Ÿ˜… @tulip elm

tulip elm
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I still get smashed ๐Ÿ˜„ Saveas just pwns Estrilda :< maybe after I hit 141 it will be easier ๐Ÿ˜‰

pale kettle
wise merlin
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๐Ÿ˜… Sorry friend @tulip elm

tulip elm
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My problem is: I donโ€™t have good tank, and Seems like Estrilda really needs 141

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Ah. Itโ€™s ok! ;)! You helped me so much anyway!

leaden olive
tulip elm
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Why is Tasi S+ in every tier list? What makes her so strong?

leaden olive
merry dagger
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have you read her abilities? cc for days

tulip elm
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@merry dagger I did, but she never really worked for me :<<<

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Hello ^^

Give this lineup a shot:

Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Athalia
Tasi / Belinda

@willow merlin

If swapping Ferael for Safia won't pass you the level, I'm afraid you need more levels! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

@leaden olive

Place Brutus against Estrilda, and Lucius up against Brutus. If that doesn't work, break the lvl 141 chain and try again!

merry dagger
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thats whats happening to me with saveas. Hear everywhere hes op as fuck but hes just ok in my team. Maybe its bc I have him lv 61 but idk, hes the same as the others

leaden olive
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@wise merlin what do you mean Lucius up against Brutus? As in behind him?

soft geode
tulip elm
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Well. For me Saveas is being weaker and weaker. I think Iโ€™ll have to replace him soon

tulip elm
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I hope for 2-3 Shemiras after chapter 11 xD

wise merlin
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@leaden olive

Your Lucius vs Enemy Brutus.

Formation :

Lucius and Brutus Frontline

Backline can stay the same, just remove Vedan and maybe put Belinda or Raine in if you need damage buff.

tulip elm
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@burnt flax
Saveas
Hogan
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes

leaden olive
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Uhh there isnโ€™t a Brutus on the enemy team

pale kettle
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@wise merlin i Love you nemora space

wise merlin
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Right, Golus. My bad. xD

leaden olive
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Ah got it! Np:)

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Did you pass??? belindakiss

leaden olive
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Golus and saveas instantly kill Lucius in like 1 hit ;(((

pale kettle
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Yeah. Angelos and Mereks heal were too much. My heroes were only focusing on Estrillda but she got instantly healed but with the stuns of Tasi they couldnโ€™t heal her anymore thanks ๐Ÿ™

wise merlin
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Put Brutus up against them then, and Thane against Estrilda, if he survives. Swap Arden for Saveas, see if he does better work

New formation;

Brutus & Thane Frontline

Fawkes, Belinda and Saveas Backline. @leaden olive

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@burnt flax Hello ^^

Can you send your hero roster, please? ^^

pale kettle
leaden olive
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Will try it thank you

burnt flax
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@wise merlini won thank you anyway

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Hello, you are required to send your hero roster too, for a better advice.

@burnt flax You're always welcome. space Good to hear you passed it!

burnt flax
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@Apocalittico
Saveas
Hogan
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
With this roaster

wise merlin
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My guy @tulip elm

pale kettle
tulip elm
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@burnt flax using this roster with really small changes I am on 11-32 atm

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I had to get someone else maybe 5-6 times

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You need to relay on Belindaโ€™s burst and Saveas sustain. Thatโ€™s it ๐Ÿ˜‰

wise merlin
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Swap Morvus with Fawkes, he'll do much better work.

You could also experiment with Kaz, place her Frontline, swap Nemora for Belinda if she can't use her ult before dying. ^^

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@pale kettle

pale kettle
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@wise merlin and if Nemora keeps dying lol just keep trying?

wise merlin
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@pale kettle If Nemora keep dying , swap her for Belinda, your formation should look like so;

Belinda
Lucius
Lyca
Kaz
Fawkes

livid terrace
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Lucius dies way too quickly, thatโ€™s why Iโ€™m using Brutus

trail gulch
pale kettle
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@wise merlin ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ that formation worked, Lucius was the only one that died but that formation was a success ๐Ÿ’–

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Glad to hear!! ๐Ÿ˜‹ Best of luck further on friend!!

burnt flax
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???

wise merlin
burnt flax
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Thank you

wise merlin
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In your case, your higher tier heroes aren't Crystalized, rather, they're just lvl 1, you should reset your lower tier ones and focus on the highest tier ones you currently have! @burnt flax

boreal trout
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I have a question what the point of the resonating crystal???

pale kettle
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@wise merlin thanks! Just gonna see how 9-16 goes lol

wise merlin
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@burnt flax I would use Angelo and Hogan to ascend Belinda if I were you, very Versatile hero, her lvl 121 isn't half bad as well ^^

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@boreal trout Be more specific please, what would you like to know of the Crystal?

boreal trout
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Like whatโ€™s the point of leveling your extra heroโ€™s

wise merlin
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@pale kettle 9-20 is what you should be fearing of... Notoriously challenging

burnt flax
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So, at the Moment should i change some Hero from Cristal to level up?

boreal trout
wise merlin
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@boreal trout It is a unique Feature that has yet to be established into such a game before, the main concept is that once you have 5 Heroes at a certain level, you can use the Crystal to immediately boost up a Hero to the 5th highest hero available on your pentagram (they're instantly added to the pentagram, you don't need to do it manually)

They enjoy the traits of level breaks, ability upgrades, and all that for free! Then again.. L+ capped heroes (Mirael, Arden, Ira, etc) can not go past 160.

It also doesn't matter what's their current Ascension tier, they can overpass it!

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@boreal trout That's a very general question, specify please. ^^

boreal trout
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Oh lmao well I was wondering what setup I should use rn for my squad which would be best

wise merlin
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@burnt flax Nah, your current Crystalized heroes are fine, rather, I would use Arden in your main 5 as he's more likely to receive duplicates of ^^

wise merlin
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@vapid meadow You are underlevelled. ๐Ÿ˜ณ

vapid meadow
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rip me will i be abe to beat it with lvl 81 shemira e+?

wise merlin
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Focus resources onto Estrilda, Mirael, Golus, and then Shemira

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Get them all to level 67 and Shemira to 80, then try again

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@boreal trout There's no "best", your formation will be orientated almost 24/7

haughty token
wise merlin
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And my phone battery is dying x.x talk to you all soon! idabella belindakiss

placid dirge
#

What the best linup in your guys opinion

merry dagger
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@vapid meadow i guess shemira is so op she got you there on her own abdc she can't handle it anymore. Lvl up the rest to 61,it really makes a difference

pale kettle
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@wise merlin ๐Ÿ˜ฌ gotta change the formation again

vapid meadow
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thats what people told me so i follow there advice

wise merlin
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@rapid topaz He is right, lineup help is only for walls in chapters, not Ascension discussions / anything of the sort

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Though, I would save one Saveas in all honesty.. find better fodder.. Saveas at your phase of the game is a better choice space

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@rapid topaz

rapid topaz
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Ok ty

swift yoke
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Hello, thank you @wise merlin for always being here and supporting others! โค

wise merlin
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@swift yoke My arch enemy belindakiss dabsi

Hi, happy seeing you here again ๐Ÿ˜Š

swift yoke
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Did you recommend wilders to anyone today?

wise merlin
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A Nemora..

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A Tasi..

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An Arden...

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That's it. ๐Ÿ˜‹

swift yoke
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Those are the only wilders that exist, and Lyca

gaunt rover
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Shemira = Tasi > Wilders > All > Green heroes except Dreaf
Dreaf is a god in disguised trying to be a common hero

swift yoke
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what about ulmus?

wise merlin
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@gaunt rover Dreaf = Dura

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Coincidence..? elethathink

strong moss
wise merlin
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@strong moss Include an image showing your formation vs the enemy please. ^^

strong moss
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yes sorry

wise merlin
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Swap Saveas with Arden, I believe it's your only hope. If not, AFK. A little and come back when all of your heroes are level 67

strong moss
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Oki thanks !

haughty token
swift yoke
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Why not try to switch between nemora and lyca?

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and you could even try to tank with Lyca, and place Shem behind. Try to stall the game until Shem and Tasi ult

haughty token
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I've tried most of that unfortunately, I'll give it some more goes, perhaps I haven't found the best formation yet

still river
swift yoke
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@haughty token when you are playing with arden, you could repeat the game more than once. Hoping for a different outcome.

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You could try this Yf222; Shemira, Tasi, Lyca, Brutus and Arden

still river
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So Shem and Brutus front?

swift yoke
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In this scenario; you'll mostly depend on Shemira and Tasi. You will want to stall the game until both of them gets to land their ults. to do so, you are using Arden to root the enemy. Lyca exist to boost your teammates with her haste

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You could have Shem infront, but if you see that she can't tank until she gets her ult, then switch her position with Lyca, and let Lyca tank

the formation as an overall should be like this

Shem
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi

You'll always want Brutus to be infront, and Tasi should always be behind. The rest (Arden, Lyca and Shem) can be switched from front to back, depending on the enemy team

stray quiver
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Hello, currently stuck on 11-36 , what kinda team whould you recommend i focus on ? thx !

pale kettle
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I need help again ๐Ÿ™ƒ for 9-16

swift yoke
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Lyca, Lucius, Nemora, Belinda and Fawkeys should work

pale kettle
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๐Ÿ˜ฌ I tried lol

swift yoke
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did it work?

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you need more tanks on your crystal, you mostly have damage heroes

pale kettle
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So who should I put on the crystal, still new to the game lol

swift yoke
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Ok, so you don't really need Ogii and Morvus in your crystal. Add Khasos and Gez instead

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Then, you can play with this comp;

Seveas
Ghul
Arden
Khasus
Lyca

This will actually be a very solid line, you'll be able to pass some levels with this

crisp thorn
swift yoke
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@shrewd shadow nice front line, you could try to switch between Nemora and Arden. If this doesn't help much, you could even switch out Fawkeyes with Tasi

crisp thorn
swift yoke
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switch nemora with lyca dahmm and it should work

crisp thorn
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should i ascend brutus wirh golus?

swift yoke
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no, you are using both. so don't ascend

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wait you have lucius... so actually it isnt a very bad idea to have M brutus

crisp thorn
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so ascend brutus wirh golus and put lucius where golus was

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so close to beating it keep running out of time

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just beat it no need now

swift yoke
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glad to hear so! xD

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Anyone needs help with his/her lineup?

Will try my best xD

drowsy raptor
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not stuck just want advice if this is the best general comp i have

rugged marten
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@pearl basin tasi out, Nem in, best boots on her so she can outspeed the enemy Arden (it can be done), you also need Kaz to be CC'D heavily so keep retrying it

Nem
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca

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You need Ira to be as far away from Shem as possible, she inflicts bleed, which drastically reduces healing

fading jasper
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@dark egret try silvina front , if she jumps on nemora then top front otherwise bottom front if she goes for isabella. Atleast you can take out thiran and maybe put a cc/support hero

sand rune
pearl basin
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@rugged marten Shemira gets 3 shotted by Kaz

rugged marten
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You need Arden to root Kaz and then to keep CC'ing her until Shem can ult

pearl basin
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20 tries and the same result, Arden doesn't CC Kaz at all, it's the same result every time sadly, Shemira just flat out die's, they have Mythic gear equipped also, but still no chance at all.

rugged marten
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He will eventually CC het

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It took me about 350 tries with the exact same set up to beat 21-60

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And I beat it eventually

pearl basin
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Ok, fair enough, I'll keep trying but 3 shot and Shemira is out is what I'm saying xD

rugged marten
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Yeah, mine was dying in the same amount of hits, you just need to get lucky with Arden rooting her

pearl basin
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Btw, who should get what relic in your opinion? I do not have the new relics btw

pale kettle
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@swift yoke sorry I haven't responded, so I'll try it that way

rugged marten
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Call on Shem @pearl basin

crimson bolt
midnight crag
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Anyone here that can help me out?

gaunt rover
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@midnight crag What you need?

midnight crag
pale kettle
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And the server keeps cutting out so please feel free to DM me please and thank you

hasty fable
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Im having trouble getting pass any level with Brutus, who should i focus on leveling?

grizzled lodge
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I've got same problem

pearl basin
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@rugged marten Sadly I don't see this line up working lol, even tho Kaz gets CC'ed she manages to kill Shemira before Shemira can get 80% alt ๐Ÿ˜„

grizzled lodge
hasty fable
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Lucius has trouble tanking brutus for me when he use his ult

rugged marten
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@pearl basin might just mean you need to ascend Shem then

pearl basin
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ thanks any way @rugged marten

livid terrace
lapis roost
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just got lucius and promoted saveas to elite +, any advice? Should i switch to a light+mauler setup?

midnight crag
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@livid terrace have you tried out ezizh? I was using the same heroes, and when I put in ezizh he just helped me go through the stages. And since yours are higher ascended than what mine were, you will probably beat it faster than I did

frigid dagger
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@livid terrace Use Lucius instead brutus, I play the exact same comp but with Lucius and it works very well for me

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@burnt flax Push shemira lvl so Lucius can be more useful

hasty fable
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Brutus kills too fast, idk if its a level issue with lucius or i need to replace someone

livid terrace
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@midnight crag Ezish where? @frigid dagger Lucius dies way too quick lol, thats the only reason Iโ€™m using Brutus

cinder shuttle
remote thunder
lapis roost
livid terrace
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Why arenโ€™t you ascending Eironn

tawdry gulch
livid terrace
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@tawdry gulch You shouldnt level up that many heroes. Only level up 5 and use the resonating crystal for the rest.

spring sparrow
tawdry gulch
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@livid terrace thanks๐Ÿ’Ÿ๐Ÿ’Ÿ

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try using more of mauler mauler it's more effective on the wilder wilder

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@livid terrace

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@spring sparrow it depends on their ability and those you are against

pale kettle
spring sparrow
gloomy haven
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Iโ€™m pretty stuck atm... any advice on who I should work with as my line up in general? Iโ€™ll focus lvl and gear whomever I just donโ€™t have a clue ๐Ÿ‘€

broken horizon
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@pearl basin remember kez attacks the lowest health character, if you switch some gear and make sure Shemira has more health then Arden or Tasi, she won't get focused

fair sky
broken horizon
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@sand rune i beat it with worse heroes, don't worry about the formation buff so much, you should use shermira, brutus and saveas, keep belinda and hogan

pale kettle
buoyant jasper
frigid dagger
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@buoyant jasper Ogi yes, but not arden, so u should wait

buoyant jasper
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Ok thanks

spark stump
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Iโ€™m running Brutus Belinda Lucius Saves and uh Nurmisu or something like that

tawdry gulch
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@gloomy haven if they are the same type they are stronger but at the end it depends on who you are against

sand rune
swift yoke
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@spark stump you could try with this; Brutus, Seveas, Lyca, Lucius and Numisu

sand rune
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@swift yoke you got any cool advice for me? Your advice on previous levels was super helpful.

swift yoke
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Thank you! That is nice to hear, and yes sure. I am currently thinking of something for you

trail gulch
sand rune
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@swift yoke thank you very much

swift yoke
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I am not very good with the tower. But I would say you could try this;

Seveas
Brutus
Raine
Estralida
Belinda

Could you try this out and tell me how it goes? @sand rune

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@trail gulch could you share your heroes list? would help

trail gulch
empty nest
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Does anyone have a legendary+ thoran and a legendary+ safiya I can add as a friend, trying to complete my library

swift yoke
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@trail gulch do you have an empty slot on your crystal?

trail gulch
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@swift yoke I think so

swift yoke
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@empty nest type this in the #mercenary section. this section is for line-ups

lapis roost
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@livid terrace ye just ascended eironn, but im not using him anymore, or do you mean i should use him aswell?

empty nest
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Just saw that, sorry for confusion guys

swift yoke
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All good

flat magnet
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Any tips? Current go to is Lucius, Estrilda, Silvina, Tasi and Belinda. Should I switch out for any other heroes in my roster? I can get Silvina to Legendary if I sacrifice 2 Isabella's. Or should I wait until I can get my Shemira to Legendary?

trail gulch
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@swift yoke yes I have a free spot

grim hatch
swift yoke
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You could try this, and tell me how it goes

Seveas
Brutus
Nemora
Khasos
Shemira

or you could try to replace Ira with Shemira, but they are against graveborn, so a wilder would deal more damage to them, that is why I would recommend Ira. but your shemira is L so yah

pearl basin
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@broken horizon Shemira has the highest HP, around 364k hp

grim hatch
pale kettle
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What should i buy in the guild store?

swift yoke
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Only buy Mythic equips from the guild store

lapis roost
swift yoke
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You could try this

Seveas
Lucius
Tasi
Estralida
Belinda

tell me how it goes. And don't sacrifice two isabella for an L silvina, isabella is a Ascended Tier hero, and at one point she becomes a requirement @flat magnet

lapis roost
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currently stuck there 6-28. Probably just lacking xp to get the other 2 to level 81 aswell, but do you guys think i could cheese it if i replace the wilder guys with a light setup?

strong basin
outer burrow
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hamdan

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i have a nemora leg + and a kaz leg + but kaz is kinda useless for me, should i ascend nemora to mythic?

swift yoke
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@grim hatch your teamup is very good, it is actually my favorite. To win that level you'll need to make Silvina focus Tasi instead of Arden, and to do so you will have to make Arden power higher than Tasi (Because Silvina focuses the weakest mage you have). Tasi should survive one hit from Silvina, and then she should use her tele skill to hide behind shemira. This way you'll be able to win

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@outer burrow No, Kaz becomes a very important hero later on. Totally not recommended to use her a fodder

outer burrow
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what about a skreg leg+ in to a numisu leg+

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@swift yoke

swift yoke
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@lapis roost Maulers deal extra damage to wilders, so you'll need to change your setup to win this game. You could easily switch between Ogii with Hog. And see how it goes

lapis roost
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wouldn't that make me lose the faction bonus?

outer burrow
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if u dont want to wait the 30 sec u can dm me

swift yoke
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@outer burrow I don't know about that, for me; I would never do that. I would never use an ascended tier hero as a fodder. You never know what kind of buffs or de-buffs heroes will get. What if Skreg ended up being one of the best tanks in the game? You'll regret using him as a fodder

mint burrow
swift yoke
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@lapis roost faction bonus is important, but it is not essential. So give it a try, and see how it goes. Ohhh and you could even switch between Tasi and Shemira if you want. Try with both strategies

outer burrow
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on the tier list skreg is a D

zinc token
lapis roost
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@swift yoke ty ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zinc token
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I tried everything, i cant :c

swift yoke
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You really can't judge a hero from the tier list. Many other things play a factor on the tier list. some heroes goes very well with others, I saw many people use Skreg in PvP @outer burrow

lapis roost
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@swift yoke the tasi change might be good for this one, tasi is always co*kblocking by ccing the rooted target anyways

swift yoke
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@mint burrow share your hero list

flat magnet
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@swift yoke thanks for the tip. That lineup helped me clear a few more tower floors, but I'm still a tad too underpowered to continue the campaign. I'll focus on levelling/ranking those heroes for now. Thanks again

mint burrow
swift yoke
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@zinc token you could try this, and tell me how it goes

Seveas
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Lyca

trail birch
swift yoke
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@flat magnet Glad to hear that I was of help! xD

snow meteor
lapis roost
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@swift yoke yeah without faction bonus i get melted ๐Ÿ˜„ so i guess i gotta wait or do a hardswitch. Btw i have duras grace on saevas currently, is it better on someone like brutus?

trail birch
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Any advice on 11-36?

swift yoke
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@mint burrow Ok, so your heroes are VERY GOOD.

You could try this;

Shemira
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Tasi

You can switch between Lyca and Shemira, what you want to aim for is for Tasi and Shemira to ult, and that's it you should win easily

strong basin
grim hatch
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@swift yoke any tips on who to put where ? The 1v1 vedan is annoying my shemira dies lol

zinc token
swift yoke
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@snow meteor You could try this

Seveas
Grez
Eiron
Ogii or Serius
Arden

And as an overall, avoid placing Lightbearer heroes against Graveborn heroes, they deal more damage to them

snow meteor
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Yeah, i just dont really have much other than lightborn I thought would work

grim hatch
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And wtf I silenced the vedan he can still ult ? Lol

swift yoke
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@zinc token give me a second, your arden is getting deleted

zinc token
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Super, hes only e+.... i am struggling in getting fodders

snow meteor
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Nah im still getting rekt

swift yoke
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@strong basin you need more frontlines, you have soo many backlines. consider adding Khasos or Hog to your crystal

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@snow meteor what is happening exactly? who is dying so early? Is arden landing his root? does Seveas get to ult?

strong basin
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thx

mint burrow
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@swift yoke i get both ults but then the 2 vedans go bats and kill everyone

swift yoke
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@strong basin You could try this but not sure if it will work

Athalia
Arden
Tasi
Estralida
Seveas

And you could try to switch between Arden and Athalia

lapis roost
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hamdan is the hero we need

snow meteor
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we have him tho

edit: sav is ulting but he barely does any damage

lapis roost
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well i tried to write "need ..ed" but somehow that's a forbidden word? wat

swift yoke
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@zinc token ok so it looks like the sniper guy is killing arden, could you try to switch their spots. Hide arden behind brutus. and move lyca a bit up. But I think we need to comeup with another lineup as an overall, tasi and arden are dying so early

zinc token
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Yea because theyre still E.. its so disgusting how i can never get fodders ulricry i have been trying many lineup and nothing works..

swift yoke
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Thank you wat! xD and bastard, how about switching tasi with numisu? this way you'll have more damage but less support. So I guess it is a fair tradeoff

lapis roost
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nah, thank you

oblique stone
swift yoke
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@zinc token ok so you are against mualers, so we need to place as many lightbearers as we can (problem is I am not good with lightbearers, but let's try)

how about this line up;

Belinda
Esstralida
Arden
Lucius
Seveas

try this out and tell me how it goes, Arden will get one shooted, but atleast he should be able to root before dying

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@oblique stone you are against maulers too, so we need light heroes

how about trying this;

Morvus
Lucius
Lyca or Tasi
Estralida
Athalia

Could you try this out and tell me how it goes?

oblique stone
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ok

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@swift yoke athalia and estrilda got shredded, but tasi, lucius and morvus lasted longer but still lost

snow meteor
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ham you said to switch out tasi, did you mean eiron?

swift yoke
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Ok then how about switching ezizh with athalia? this way you'll be boosting the team with 30% more defense, but ofcourse less damage

snow meteor
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well switching him with sav didnt work unfortunately

yes that is

swift yoke
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wait I got lost a bit
so this is your current line up right?

Seveas
Grez
Eiron
Ogii or Serius
Arden

snow meteor
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yes, but i use serius

swift yoke
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ok so you are against graveborn heroes, so having wilders would help alot. And we should avoid adding light heroes because they are weak against graveborn

you have Hog and Lucius which are really good tanks, I guess they would be better than Ogrii and Seirus even with the faction disadvantage

So how about trying this

Arden
Hog
Athalia
Lucius
Seveas

you could try to switch their spots and see how it goes

tell me how this goes as an overall

oblique stone
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@swift yoke still nothing, idk what else i can do besides AFK

swift yoke
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@oblique stone what is happening exactly? When you tried Tasi, was she able to ult? was Lucius able to ult?

zinc token
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@swift yoke estrilda just melted

swift yoke
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@oblique stone Ok, how about ignoring the faction disadvantage and trying this;

Seveas
Ghul
Lyca
Lucius
Athalia

And ofcourse you could try to switch between Lyca and Tasi

swift yoke
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@zinc token so you are facing troubles with your frontline, specially Estralida. So I guess we will have to ignore the faction disadvantage and try this out;

Seveas
Brutus
Khasos
Lucius
Arden

You could try to switch between Arden with Lyca or Tasi. See how it goes as an overall. but keep this in mind;

Arden main purpose is to root, he can RIP after that
Lyca main purpose is to use Haste, she can RIP after that

Tasi on the otherhand should survive and use her ult

zinc token
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Let me try that

swift yoke
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@wise merlin Wow... asking people to remove wilders from their top 5 heroes... rude ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I am sure he/she had other E heroes, but you just had to choose the wilders

oblique stone
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@swift yoke ugh, still nothing. im probably going to AFK unless anyone can think of something

@wise merlin i dont know what there applies to me.

swift yoke
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@oblique stone The level difference is not big, you should be able to win. I just don't have the knowledge needed to make that possible ๐Ÿ’” And you have plenty of L heroes, so should be very easy

idle fossil
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Need a little help with tweaking my line up

wise merlin
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@swift yoke To increase their level above their maximum cap, instead of 100, to 120, to upgrade!

@oblique stone You have 4 L tiers in your 5 main heroes, and 3 L+ tiers in the Crystal... your level cap is stuck at 140 solely because of that and you'll need to change it regardless to advance with Crystal level.

Once you'll get another L+ tier, you'll be able to reach level cap of Crystal of 160.

Also, you're purposely keeping those L+ tiers stuck at their level, and doing so right now will save you the time of doing it in the future (Since you definitely will. trust me.)

swift yoke
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@idle fossil share your heroes list, and hopefully we will be able to help

wise merlin
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Not to mention, it saves the 24 hours cooldown of having to do it in the future, it's better off to save this process @oblique stone

idle fossil
oblique stone
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ah, ok

swift yoke
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@idle fossil could you share the full hero list?

idle fossil
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Alright, thatโ€™s all of them @swift yoke

swift yoke
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@idle fossil Ok, so you are against Maulers, so using light heroes would be good and we should avoid wilders

how about trying this out;

Seveas
Brutus
Khasos
Lucius
Tasi

Or you could switch Khasos with Safiya, give it a try and tell me how it goes

idle fossil
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Gotcha, be right back

swift yoke
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Goodluck, and keep me updated with how it goes

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@oblique stone no luck at all?

grim hatch
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Whatโ€™s the positioning I should go for ? 1v1 shem vs vedan is insane lol. Even if shem silences him he can still ult ? Lol

idle fossil
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Did not go well @swift yoke

swift yoke
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You would want to kill him before he ults, how about trying to tank with Shemira instead of Lyca? this way Lyca will get to survive further which will result in more damage

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@idle fossil what happened exactly? Does brutus get enough time to ult? and same goes to Tasi and Seveas. Any of them is ulting?

next quiver
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@grim hatch Just a general idea: Reset Belinda and get Nemora to 141. Get Saveas to 141. Put belinda on the crystal. That will make all of your resonating crystal heroes at 141 and they will unlock a skill upgrade

spring estuary
idle fossil
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They can sometimes get there, but the enemy team is too tanky for it to do much before itโ€™s over. I had to swap Lucius and Brutus to even survive long enough to ult

oblique stone
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@swift yoke no, nothing

swift yoke
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@spring estuary No, Arden is a very important hero

spring estuary
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I will never have tasi l if i wont kill arden, it is too easy to get arden

idle fossil
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@swift yoke I might just have to wait and level up

next quiver
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@spring estuary Wait for Ira and Ogi fodder, Arden is too good

swift yoke
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@idle fossil so the team is lacking damage? is this the case even after switching Khasos with Safiya?

idle fossil
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It is, tried swapping and nothing. They lived marginally longer with safiya though @swift yoke

swift yoke
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Yah afterall being AFK is part of the game @idle fossil

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You could try to have both Khasos and Safiya at the sametime, by removing Tasi. This way they all will get an extra 5% health and damage, give it a try

spring estuary
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@next quiver but to make them elite+ i will have to give up arden or others that arden can feed from, if not i will only have ardens

swift yoke
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@spring estuary trust me, Arden is a very essential hero in progressing in this game, I am still using him eventhough my average level is 200+ while Arden is stuck at 160 (because that is his max level) but I am still using him

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His root is one of the best skills in this game, he gets to delay 2 ~ 3 enemies at the start of the game, making your team go on a 5v2 fight

pale kettle
swift yoke
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@pale kettle could you share your heroes list?

spring estuary
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I trust you i just don't see how i will make others, i need 3 ardens and 6 others for each arden, thats the ratio of heroes exist. It means i can make ardens forever and giving up others will be in ardens place

pale kettle
weak fiber
spring estuary
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Do you feed arden with arden?

swift yoke
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@spring estuary yes you do have a point, and it is 100% correct. But I would never do that, and yes I would feed an arden with another arden

spring estuary
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@swift yoke ok thank you!

lusty smelt
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should i feed Raine to make Belinda a Mythic?

spring estuary
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Who do you think i should upgrade first, tasi or arden?

swift yoke
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@pale kettle your current lineup is pretty good, why are you exactly losing? team dying early? or team damage is low?

pale kettle
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A mix of both I guess. The vedan boss is just shredding.

real glen
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Hey can you give me any advice it seems I cant to enough damage and cc doesnt really help

pale kettle
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Lucius is dropping before he can even activate the shield for the other members

swift yoke
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@weak fiber You could try this;

Seveas
Brutus
Arden
Ogii
Lyca

Orrrr, you can even try this, but you'll need to spam the retry button until luck helps you

Seveas
Brutus
Arden
Lyca
Safiya

Give them a try and tell me how it goes (damage is low, team is dying to early, or both)

idle fossil
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@swift yoke much better but still not enough dps to win outright

real glen
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Maybe I just need to level my heroes a bit more ?

frigid dagger
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@real glen I think ur comp is very good, so I think u should lvl brutus, shemira and he can carry that backlane

swift yoke
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@lusty smelt No, I woudn't recommend doing that for two reasons

  1. Raine is an Ascended tier hero, so she really isn't a fodder. At one point you'll need her

  2. You don't have any hero to replace Raine spot on the crystal as an L+ hero. Thus, all of your heroes level will drop to 140. I mean the crystal level will drop to 140 as an overall

But yah, reason 1 is more than enough tbh

real glen
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@frigid dagger so take brutus to 180 ?

swift yoke
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@idle fossil try to switch anything with Lucius, see if it works out. Shemira, or another tank, just try anything out. You could even try Lyca

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@pale kettle Ok, so your current team do actually looks very good. But if it is dying so early I would assume it is from the faction disadvantage. Graveborn deals extra damage to Lightborn

So how about trying this;

Isabella
Lucius
Nemora
Grez
Shemira

weak fiber
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@swift yoke been trying them but I think I'm just to weak those tanks take forever to kill and my team dies to them

pale kettle
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I'll give it a shot, thanks.

frigid dagger
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@real glen I think so, they both are very strong and ur backlane es pretty good too but they can wait until brutus 180

swift yoke
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@real glen Ok so your line-up is actually very good, my favorite lineup. May I know what level this is you are currently on?

wise marsh
scarlet plank
swift yoke
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@weak fiber Ok, so the main problem is dealing with the tanks. How about trying to ignore the team defense, and focus on the team damage? you could try this out;

Seveas
Brutus
Lyca
Vedan
Safiya

This way you'll be boosted with damage, but you'll be lacking defense. See how it goes and keep me updated, Lyca is being used her for her Haste ability, which would buff all of your heroes

wise marsh
pale kettle
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@swift yoke So that worked better than my first lineup. I was tanking a lot but now the problem was low damage. The mage in the middle back deals a ton of damage and Vedan just rips through everyone in his bat stage.

swift yoke
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@wise marsh You could try this out;

Seveas
Hog
Shem
Vedan
Silvina

But could you show me the enemy formation? that would help in setting up a lineup

wise marsh
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@swift yoke the enemy setup is shown in the 2nd picture :p

swift yoke
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@scarlet plank You could try this out;

Seveas
Brutus
Arden
Vedan
Khasos

try it out and tell me how it goes, and it would be better if you could provide an image of the enemy team

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@pale kettle ok, so I guess if Isabella focus on Vedan he would end up dying before getting to ult, so how about switching her position with Shemira? Also, Arden can delay Vedan turning into a bad (ult) if he rooted him, so you could even try to switch between arden and nemora. try both strategies out and tell me holw it goes

real glen
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@swift yoke hey yes its 15-40

swift yoke
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@wise marsh Ok, so you are against graveborn heroes, you should avoid using lightheroes, and would be better to use wilders. So I guess the lineup that I gave you should do the job
Give it a try and tell me how it goes

real glen
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Trying to beat to get another copy of shemira to make her ascended

wise marsh
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@swift yoke the lineup didnt do anything unfortunately. The line up I have been using upto now has gotten me the best results so far.

swift yoke
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Give me a second Rovah, will think of another lineup. And Roadalfo, your current line up looks perfect, may I know what is happening exactly? You can reach chapter 18 or 19 without ascended hero. I got my first ascended on Chapter 20 or so

zinc token
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@swift yoke i got passed it at last.. thousands of tries..
Line up was:
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Athalia

pale kettle
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@swift yoke Just tried both and it didn't work. The problem is that I'm dealing absolutely no damage.

swift yoke
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Ohhh awesome!! I am glad to hear so! xD @zinc token

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@wise marsh How about this Rovah?

Seveas
Hog
Arden
Ulmus
Tasi

I am really not sure how Ulmus would do as a tank here, but he got buffed alot in the last patch, so he should be able to tank. Give it a shoot and tell me how it goes

zinc token
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Now gonna forever stuck at 12-4 lmao

real glen
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@swift yoke ferael drains a lot of energy so shemira takes too long too cast her ulti and by then everyone else is dead

grim hatch
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@next quiver I dont have the dusts to do that xD

swift yoke
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@pale kettle If you are missing damage then you could try to trade some of your defense for damage

you could try this out;

Shemira
Grez
Ferael
Hog
Seveas

or you could even try to add Arden to the line-up, if you do add him then remove hog, and move Shemira to the frontline

OR you could switch Hog with Niru, this way you'll be boosting your teammates with an extra 10% damage and defense

try both out and tell me how it goes

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@real glen did you ever get a run in which Ferael got rooted by Arden twice? I think this would block him from draining any energy. so Shemira and Tasi would be able to ult

scarlet plank
real glen
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Arden gets wrecked after first root

swift yoke
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@real glen wait, isn't he equipped with Mythic gear? I think he should be able to survive a bit. to atleast be able to land a second root

iron cosmos
swift yoke
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@scarlet plank did you get a run in which arden rooted the enemy seveas?

real glen
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@swift yoke I have only 3 pieces so far all in shemira should I switch ?

swift yoke
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@iron cosmos Ok, so as an overall it is fine to upgrade Estrlida with Miael because Mirael is an Legendary+ tier hero. She would never go above that, so it is fine.

But, I wouldn't recommend this ascend because of this fact;
Your 5 top heroes are currently all Legendary+, so your level cap is 160. If you proceed to removing Mirael from the list, Belinda will take her spot, and Belinda is an Legendary hero
so your crystal level will be limited to 140, thus all your heroes will not go past 140

So what I would recommend is, don't do this ascending until you get a replacement for Mirael position

iron cosmos
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Ho ok I see

pale kettle
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@swift yoke Crazy. Still didn't work. I think I just need to wait up and power up my hereos.

swift yoke
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@real glen you could try to do so, your Shemira is at level 180 afterall, she is way above the stage level, but as an overall mythic gear does play a big factor, plus you invested lot of exp and gold in shemira, so it effected your other heroes. so those are two reasons why arden can't tank

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In my case, Shem was always on the same ascend tier as the rest. She was never ahead, so I was forced to keep them all around the same level. But your case is different, Shemira is way ahead so I am not really sure if keeping her ahead of level is the right choice or not

scarlet plank
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@swift yoke yep. my typical team of Brutus/Estrilda front and back line of Arden, Tasi, Nemora has had the most success... but seems like iโ€™m capped for now...

Arden
Brutus
Nemora
Estrilda
Tasi

swift yoke
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@pale kettle Ugh, I don't think I can come up with a line-up that would do better than the ones that I recommended. Want me to come up with any other line-up? most likely won't work out. Or you could go AFK for few hours, and come back later

lapis roost
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what do you guys think about eironn? one of my only elite+ and thinking about using him

pale kettle
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It's okay bro. I appreciate your help. I think I'm just gonna AFK for a few days and built up resources and level up hereos. Got a Shemira that I'm eyeing up in the store so I can make mine L. Will just take a few days.

swift yoke
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@lapis roost Eiron ability to drag the enemies goes veeery well with brutus ultimate, I have been using them together for this combo. Eventhough my Brutus is way ahead of my Eiron in ascend tier

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@pale kettle yah that would be a great thing to do, then you'll be able to complete those levels very easily

pale kettle
swift yoke
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@scarlet plank Aren't you missing lot of damage on this team?

Arden is mostly used for his root, Nemora is a support, Tasi is a support. Brutus is a mix of a tank and damage. Estralida is the same as Brutus. You don't have a solid DPS. I would recommend switching Estralida with a solid DPS,

Give it a try and see how it goes, but as an overall your team is a very solid one

lapis roost
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@swift yoke thought about switching from saevas, brutus, ogi, arden, tasi to eironn instead of ogi/tasi

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in case i get nemora, im not sure if i would replace arden or tasi aswell

swift yoke
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@pale kettle You could try this out;

Seveas
Lucius
Belinda
Hog
Athalia

Should be a good mix of defense and damage, plus you'll get a very good union buff

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@lapis roost how is ogi doing? I never really used him in my lineup. I think your line up would do really good with a solid dps on the front instead of ogi. maybe when saeves will be well equipped and leveled? saeves can tank some damage after all if he is ahead on level, and he can even heal making him last enough to kill all of the enemies

sharp heron
lapis roost
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right now ogi is doing poor, but that's also because he is the lowest and i am facing a triple mauler legendary setup

scarlet plank
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@swift yoke yeah damage is a low point, but without a 2nd tank, everybody dies nearly instantly and i miss out on my faction bonus

iโ€™ve tried swapping out Estrilda for Belinda and Shemira.. but the round ends real quick

lapis roost
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what would you do with nemura? arden or tasi out?

swift yoke
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I would never place Arden and Nemura at the same line-up, raaarely. But usually I would have only one of them. And I always use Lyca and Tasi. Like always 90% of the time

scarlet plank
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@swift yoke jk... just beat 11-26 with Belinda haha.. i donโ€™t have a Lyca unfortunately

lapis roost
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don't have nemura or lyca atm, which is what i am waiting for. which would boost my lineup big time aswell, since nemura helps my saevas a lot aswell

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khasos would be big aswell i guess

swift yoke
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@sharp heron Ok so the enemy up side has maulers, so would be better to go with lightbearers against them
and the enemy down side has lightbeaers, so you should go with graveborn against them

So a good team would be something like;

Belinda
Lucius
Silvina
Niru
Isabella

Or you could try to replace Isabella or Niry with Athalia, see how it goes but as an overall your team should be like this;

Light
Light
Grave or Light
Grave
Grave

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@scarlet plank gooodjob!! xD and getting a lyca would help you alot, but yah. Not like she is a must

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@lapis roost yeees exactly, totally agreed. You'll be able to pass levels way easily when you obtain them, they'll boost your progress on a big scale

limber copper
sharp heron
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@swift yoke thank you!

limber copper
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Any guidance on 8-12 please?

lapis roost
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@swift yoke yeah right. and with your tips from before i was also able to go a bit further. so with 6-28 after 3rd day playing im not feeling to bad, considering everyone else on my map is is 40+ while i am 34. Thanks again ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

limber copper
swift yoke
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Wow... it took me around a week to leave chapter 5 xD you are actually doing way better than me @lapis roost

lapis roost
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tbf tho, i bought the package with the 2.7k crystals per act. so that was 3 big rolls

idle fossil
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@swift yoke Lucius is the only thing keeping my team in the fight lol

thorny frost
swift yoke
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@limber copper First of all, try to analyze the enemy team. Their front line has two maulers, so lightbearers would break their front easily. Or you could use Tasi ghost ability to just avoid and delay their fight

The option you choose here will depend on the heroes you currently have. You don't have any counter to Brutus, so the best would be to ghost him.

Your current line-up is actually very solid. But, if you are still unable to win, because I assume Vedan is taking on the bat form before he is killed, then you'll need to push him and make sure he is killed before he gets to ult

this can be done by pushing your damage on the up side, you could try replacing Estralida with Belinda, but this way your front line will be weak

so maybe something like this;

Belinda
Arden
Merlin
Lucius
Tasi

You don't actually want Arden to survive, you just need him to root the enemy and delay thier agro

Try this out and see how it goes, but your current line-up is probably the best. but try this out

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@lapis roost yah but still, reaching chapter 6 on your third day, that is an achievement trust me

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@idle fossil want me to take another look at your lineup? but I don't think ill be able to comeup with anything better or new, would be better to ask someone else. But I don't mind trying

proud wave
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I'm about halfway through chap 11 and just got Shemira to Legendary. Should I replace my Legendary+ Belinda with her? The rest of my lineup is:

Legendary+ Saveas
Legendary Tasi
Legendary Lucius
Legendary Brutus
limber copper
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@swift yoke I appreciate the response and help/advice ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿผ i will test that out a bunch of times and let you know. Im honestly hoping its just my res. crystal lvls atm 81 might be too low.

meager peak
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I think losing arden to mythic nemora would be foolish am I right?

swift yoke
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@thorny frost Up side has 3 lights, while down side has 2 maulers.

So a good lineup would be like this;

Graveborn
Graveborn
Graveborn
Lightbearer
Lightbearer

based on your heroes, this should work

Ferael
Silvana
Arden
Grez
Seveas

Your seveas level is way too high, so he would probably do better than a light hero, even without the faction advantage. And I think the Union buff would actually benefit you alot, so that is why I pushed a Grez vs a mauler, eventhough he is on a disadvantage. Try it out and tell me how it goes

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@proud wave Shemira will replace Seveas when she hit level 161. I would recommend using Saveas till then

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@limber copper all good, and I hope you end up winning! ๐Ÿ˜„

meager peak
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Also have full mythic plate and leather set. 2 piece cloth

proud wave
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Really? I wouldn't replace somebody weaker with her until then?

thorny frost
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I tried 10x , Iโ€™m still getting melted by the time I kill 2 of them ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

novel peak
swift yoke
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@meager peak Yes, losing Arden would be a foolish move, he is essential

Your Shemira is past level 160, so you no longer really need Saveas. You can fodder him at this point. A good team comp for you would be;

Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus or Lucius
Arden

This line-up should be able to take you from chapter 15 to 20 easily. You will need to switch position here and there for each turn, but as an overall this is the objective of the team;

Tasi and Shemira should ult, so the others exist to support them to make this possible

  1. Lyca will boost the team with her haste
  2. Arden will stun the enemy team with his root
  3. Brutus or Lucius will tank the damage

If Shemira is dying early, then you could switch her position with Lyca, and have Lyca tank instead. Because afterall, you only need Lyca for her haste

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@proud wave I only used saveas all the way till chapter 14 or so, his damage and life healing is just insane

meager peak
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@novel peak sav, brutus, Lucy, nemora, tasi/arden I'd say

proud wave
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@swift yoke yeah i planned to continue using him, i was just under the impression that i should replace belinda asap lol

meager peak
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@swift yoke awesome. I will drop saveas. It will open up better gear for Lyca

swift yoke
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@novel peak Try this for 12-36

Seveas
Brutus
Tasi
Arden
Nemora

livid terrace
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Should I make Lucius or Brutus my tank? My lineup is Lucius/Brutus, Lyca, Shemira, Nemora and Tasi.

novel peak
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Will give it a shot

swift yoke
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@livid terrace really depends, I never was lucky to get Lucius early on. So I was forced to tank with Brutus, you have both. So you could switch them out here and there, see who does better. But as an overall, Lucius is a mix of a tank/support. While brutus is tank/damage

thorny frost
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@swift yoke the lineup still didnโ€™t work

swift yoke
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@thorny frost want me to try to come up with another lineup? or go afk and try again awhile after?

thorny frost
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@swift yoke could you try another? Itโ€™d be super helpful

swift yoke
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Yah sure, send me your heroes list, sorry but having to scroll all the way up and back is just exhausting + time consuming

thorny frost
swift yoke
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ok, what line up was you trying so far?

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so we try something different

meager peak
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@swift yoke dude...you are awesome. Thanks again, already have progression. :)

lost hawk
swift yoke
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@meager peak Glad to hear so! xD

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@lost hawk could you send your heroes list?

thorny frost
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@swift yoke Iโ€™ve switched various slots around the heroes you told me. None of the variations had much of an effect

lost hawk
pale kettle
swift yoke
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@thorny frost ohh ok, I was searching for @ Snurf and I couldn't find you. My bad xD

lost hawk
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@swift yoke every setup I tried dies too fast

lapis roost
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btw, does anybody know what the lvl 81 tasi do with the "all enemies will be marked for 5 sec"? Like do they recieve more damage after sleep or what does it do?

swift yoke
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@lost hawk Ok, before anything else. You are only supposed to invest into 5 heroes, but you are investing in 9. Reset all of Numisu, Brutus, Arden and the rat. Place their exp and gold in your 5 main heroes

This should boost your team on a big scale, the Crystal exist so players don't have to level more than 5 heroes. So yah

Could you first do the rest, and then we will try to pass the level

thorny frost
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Haha youโ€™re all good !

lost hawk
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Alright, @swift yoke thanks

swift yoke
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I meant could you first do the reset* @lost hawk

abstract shuttle
lost hawk
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@swift yoke who do I invest in after reset

swift yoke
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@thorny frost So, how about we ignore the faction advantage this time. And go with your best heroes?

So we could try this line up

Seveas
Brutus
Raine
Lucius
Belinda

Or you could even try this

Arden
Seveas
Raine
Lucius
Belinda

Try them both out and tell me how it goes

deft nebula
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Henlo frens! Can someone please help me
Who should I use, and who should I level up?
Thanks

https://i.imgur.com/GmSeNEF.jpg

So far, I've been using Nemora, Belinda, Brutus, Lucius, and the Gold Morvus (who is in crystal, based on my Saveas -- I've been having to level Saveas, should I continue doing this?)

swift yoke
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@lost hawk I would say Saveas, it is never a bad idea to have your DPS ahead

lost hawk
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Hes at 141 who next

swift yoke
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@deft nebula First of all, you should only be leveling 5 heroes

Use the crystal to let other heroes level up, but never level up other heroes with your exp and gold. So reset your heroes, specially your Level 70 Arden. And then invest that exp and gold on your main 5 heroes

Do that, and then we will work on setting up a line-up for your team

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@lost hawk wow, from 132 to 141. level him even more if you can. I think you'll have to depend on him alooot. He is way ahead, even in ascend level. He is L+, while others are mostly E and E+

thorny frost
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THE ARDEN ONE DID IT

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THANK YOU SO MUCH

deft nebula
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@swift yoke Oh, someone told me to stop resetting this early, and to just keep my Arden for now. I've reset twice already because other ppl told me to...

What should I do after resetting Arden?

swift yoke
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@abstract shuttle you could try this;

Arden
Seveas
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca

Do you have Tasi? if yes, then replace her with Nemora

If this doesn't work out, you could swithc Nemora with Athalia. Or you could try to add Khasos instead of Nemora, or Seiren. 3 things to try out, hopefully one of them does work out

lost hawk
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OK at 141 he cleared it almost alone

swift yoke
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@thorny frost OMG!!! GJ!!! I didn't even think that it would work. We did it!!! xD

lost hawk
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Thanks a lot I'll put more into him like u said

tacit vapor
swift yoke
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@deft nebula read this, https://www.afkarena.net/resonating-crystal this way you'll learn the core of why you should only level 5 heroes, and hopefully it will help you in advancing in the game

The Resonating Crystal is an extremely powerful and very unique feature of AFK Arena. Its existence in the game essentially means that you only ever have to level 5 heroes. This is a pretty generous feature compared to most games

pale kettle
swift yoke
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@lost hawk Perfect! now you could share your heroes list, and ill try to comeup with a line-up for you

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@tacit vapor Level Arden to 141, then invest all your exp and gold into Seveas, rush him to level 160
You can even reset Shemira, and stop her at level 125 for the crystal. Seveas is better than shemira until they reach level 161. No need to invest in both, only invest on Seveas

lost hawk
tacit vapor
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@swift yoke thank you. So who other else in you opinion should I focus?

swift yoke
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@pale kettle Always put brutus vs grez, he does really good against grez. Second, don't tank with tasi. Either with Arden, Lyca or Shemira, but not with Tasi. In your case, you could tank with Shemira I guess. And that it is, you should be able to win

deft nebula
swift yoke
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@lost hawk I think this team would be really good for you;

Arden
Seveas
Lyca
Brutus
Khasos

But I can see that you don't have Brutus on the Crystal currently, you can use Seiren for now, but would recommend you add Brutus. He is a very good tank, you can switch between him and Seiren on the crystal

granite wigeon
swift yoke
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@tough trail Your lineup is very good, what you need is for Shemira and Tasi to ult at the sametime.

If Shemira is dying before being able to ult, then switch her position with Lyca. Let either Lyca or Arden tank, because you only need Lyca and Arden for their startup abilities

lost hawk
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@swift yoke thanks

tough trail
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@swift yoke ty, i've had a couple runs with close calls in a 1v2 with shem tanking, seems i REALLY need rngesus to be on my side

swift yoke
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@granite wigeon Sacrifice Mirael and Morvus to ascend Lucius. a very good option. And use the E+ Hog to make your L hog into an L+
Later on you'll use your L+ Hog as a fodder to upgare your Lucius

limber copper
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No luck yet Hamdan (didnโ€™t want to ping you, probably get pinged enough) arden dies too soon to even take agro or entangled and belinda gets cocooned immediately.

swift yoke
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@tough trail Yes, I had to repeat some levels over 40 times to win, or even more. I used to try for around 5 ~ 10 times. then take a break for few hours, then come back and try another 5 ~ 10 times. there are so many things based on "random" factor in the battle phase, so yah

lapis roost
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@swift yoke you sometimes put saevas as front line, is that because of the backline support with nemura and so on or does he becomes tanky in the higher levels?

swift yoke
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@lapis roost when he is ahead he can be a solid tank, he has some insane life healing. but it does also depend on the enemy team, if they have so many dps then it is hard, but if they have supports, then it is easier

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@limber copper give me a second

deft nebula
swift yoke
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@limber copper could you send your heroes list? got lost trying to search for it

pale kettle
pale kettle
limber copper
swift yoke
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@deft nebula Yes sure, ok so a general line-up for you would be;

Seveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Morvus

you should be able to pass some levels with this line-up

deft nebula
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@swift yoke Ok thank you
Who should I focus on lvling up?
Can you also pls check my ascension temple and see who I should ascend?
Should I get Saveas to Elite+?
https://i.imgur.com/paBD6y0.jpg

swift yoke
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@limber copper Ok, so trying to counter the enemy team didn't work well camo. So I guess choosing your best heroes and ignoring the benefits of counter would be our only option now

So this line up would probably be your best;

Seveas
Vedan
Mirael
Lucius
Estralida

Estralida can't really tank much, so this time try to use her for her support ability, if she doesn't work out then switch her with Belinda. If this doesn't workout then I am really out of ideas

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@pale kettle could you share your heroes list?

weak fiber
swift yoke
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@willow merlin I guess, your best option would be to level up Shemira now. And for you line up, switch Safiya with Vedan. This way you will get the Union buff.

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@weak fiber both works, really. but a Legendary Lyca has a bigger impact "i think"

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@deft nebula Focus on leveling Saveas, he is probably the best dps till level 161

limber copper
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@swift yoke again, thank you for your time and advice. You are doing a lot and it doesnโ€™t go unnoticed ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿผ

marsh kite
swift yoke
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@pale kettle You could try this line up

Seveas
Ghul
Belinda
Lucius
Estralidia

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@limber copper thank you! xD

prime vapor
swift yoke
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@marsh kite Your current line up is actually good
I would recommend removing Khasos from the Crystal, and adding Vedan instead. He is a beast early on. And you team could be something like this;

Tasi
Vedan
Shemira
Athalia
Nemora

OR you could use light heroes so would be like this;

Shemira
Vedan
Athalia
Estralida
Fawkeyes

But yeah, good team as an overall

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@prime vapor could you share your heroes list?

prime vapor
tawdry cipher
marsh kite
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@swift yoke Thank you so much for your input! I'll give the advice adjustments a shot. You're awesome!

swift yoke
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@prime vapor I think this lineup should help you win

Tasi
Lucius
Nemora
Shemira
Arden

You'll want Arden to root Vedan, and Shemira use her abilities on him, so he would die before ulting

Give it a try and tell me how it goes

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@marsh kite Thank you! and goodluck xD

prime vapor
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Damn it worked thx

swift yoke
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@tawdry cipher what I would recommend is, reset Nimuru, and remove Belinda from the Crystal, then level Belinda to 121. After that all of your heroes will become 121, level 121 is important because it unlocks new abilities

Afterward, you can use this format to hopefully pass the level

Arden
Seveas
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora

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@prime vapor Glad to hear so xD

tawdry cipher
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Ok will do that

manic ivy
prime vapor
tawdry cipher
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Who should I put in frontline @swift yoke

swift yoke
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@tawdry cipher on the order I placed the names, so Seveas and Brutus will be infront

tawdry cipher
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Ok

trail birch
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Or should I just wait for gear and exp and stuff? Lastly, should I use my sevas to ascend brutis?

gusty lynx
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ur saveas will still be useful for a while

swift yoke
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@trail birch I think Seveas would actually do way better at level 160 than Brutus

And regarding your line-up, you could try this;

Seveas
Brutus
Lyca
Athalia
Nemora

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I'll be closing guys, if you need any help with your line-up DM me and hopefully ill help you tomorrow

daring imp
hasty fable
ashen hound
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Who should I level up to 121 first?

pale kettle
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@ashen hound whatever one you use the most

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle then you might wanna build on Saveas. Supported with Wilders CC will help you on chap 10

pale kettle
olive thorn
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@pale kettle nope

pale kettle
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just wait it out then?

olive thorn
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yup

fierce kayak
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@pale kettle nope. Never use ascended tier as fodder.

pale kettle
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okayy ill wait for one more elite+ graveborn then

torpid goblet
frigid dagger
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@torpid goblet I clear that one with top down Lucius shemira top down tasi lyca nemora

torpid goblet
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@frigid dagger i tried and it didnโ€™t work :/ my shemira dies too fast before getting her ult off

olive thorn
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Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
Shemira
Arden

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try this

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focus silv on tasi

livid terrace
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I feel like this guy is harder than it should be. Who should I be putting up against him(

frigid dagger
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@livid terrace Use that mirael, and if u can more lightbearer

fading cipher
frigid dagger
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@torpid goblet Can try too top down Lucius shemira top down astrid fawkes tasi, I know it's weird but it can work

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Estrilda not astrid

olive thorn
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@fading cipher

torpid goblet
olive thorn
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Arden
Fawkes
Lucius
Belinda
Shem

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try like this

terse blaze
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Is it worth giving up faction bonus if one of your troops isn't amazing? I'm currently running luciud/hogan belinda/fawkes/estrilda. But maybe tasi/nemora would be better support, and shem/saveas would be better dps

olive thorn
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yeah faction bonus isn't mendatory

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specialy in early when u gonna ascend on a lot of different factions

terse blaze
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Ok. I think I'll keep running LB team for now, til it doesn't work (like against a GB team). Thanks :)

solar plover
pale rover
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@solar plover
Hogan Golus
Thane Estrilda/Raine Arden

Minimum team bonus

polar jolt
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Is lab always stupidly hard? Like last 3 runs through have gone to nearly 2x my power level, and 50-60 levels above my teams. If I actually want to clear the lab, I need to use like 3-4 tears

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I have 3 gold, 1 gold+, and all lvl 120, and I'm fighting like 3 reds and all lvl 170+

fathom vault
timid cave
solar plover
pale rover
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@polar jolt That would be better in #classic-questions

@fathom vault You shouldn't be using lightbearers in that stage, ascension goes to #classic-questions but among all those I'd choose Belinda > Estrilda > Raine. Ask in the right channel again for more opinions before you decide.

@timid cave Yes you definitely lack ascensions particularly for Lucius. That team is also not doing enough damage. Putting Saveas in front of Estrilda means she will wreck him. Always look at faction advantages before building teams.

fathom vault
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@pale rover thank you

polar jolt
odd bluff
olive thorn
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stati expertise ๐Ÿ•ต

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@odd bluff nem is a must have on this lvl, even in e+

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focus the charm on ferael is carrying a lot

odd bluff
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Ok then

prime vapor
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Any advice?

odd bluff
earnest minnow
signal aurora
open mural
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Sack hogan and Mirael @earnest minnow for either Belinda, estrilda or Thane

earnest minnow
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I never used thane can I use him as frontline next to Belinda?

raw dawn
open mural
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@earnest minnow he's not a real Frontline till later levels, but if you up Belinda that's an easy L+ to carry you early on

abstract shuttle
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@swift yoke nope neither worked

astral walrus
dire radish
raven nebula
dire radish
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Ugh 9-20 is the worst

raven nebula
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it really is, any suggestions?

dire radish
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Umm I really canโ€™t say. I had to overlevel my Saveas to hard carry that level

vivid arch
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@dire radish Iโ€™m stuck there as well

dire radish
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I think if I put my Saveas on bottom to counteract the other sav Iโ€™ll be fine but idk

frank summit
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should i make Estrilda or Raine a legendary

open mural
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@raven nebula don't put Isabella in the front, try estrilda thoran then lyca silvina Isabella

pale kettle
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Any suggestions? ๐Ÿ™„

solemn cloud
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Any team suggestions ??

vivid arch
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@pale kettle Iโ€™m still pretty new but I would try switching vedan and Estrilda, try taking out the enemies bottom lineup and watch your team work up.

raven nebula
pale kettle
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@solemn cloud Okay, iโ€™m gonna give it a try.

dire radish
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@solemn cloud Iโ€™m kinda noob but try Hogan, Mermaid dude, Sav, Fairy, and light girl

trail gulch
dire radish
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Hogan and mermaid dude up front

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@trail gulch why not upgrade sav and use him in the lineup?

pale kettle
trail gulch
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@dire radish like ascend him?

dire radish
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No to 121 @trail gulch

trail gulch
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I think his max level is 120 as is

dire radish
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I would balance out my upgrades and get the 3 way bonus with Sav, axe dude, and light girl.

vivid arch
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@pale kettle take out vedan, replace with seirus if you have the gear for him. He can help push back Silvina away from her target.

dire radish
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Oh dang rip I forgot the level limit my bad @trail gulch

vivid arch
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@trail gulch you have 2 other elite+ savs you can ascend your main sav

pale rover
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@trail gulch Please read my pinned and scroll to 9-20 section

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It's basically the same plus some addons for 9-40.

dire radish
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Yurr ascend that sav

trail gulch
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@pale rover okay I'll check it out. That's in another channel? @vivid arch I thought I needed to save the elites

solemn cloud
pale rover
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@trail gulch This channel.

vivid arch
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@trail gulch if you have copies no need to save them since you can only use one per lineup

dire radish
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@trail gulch click lineup help at top. Then go to pinned messages

gritty mason
trail gulch
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@dire radish perfect thank you, so now I'll eat my two other savs

dire radish
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@gritty mason save your heroes that can reach ascended. Wait for better fodder

gritty mason
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Dont i have pretty good fodder? All my blues are fodder.

dire radish
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Oh lmao Iโ€™m blind

pale rover
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@solemn cloud
Seirus Ogi/Kaz
Tasi Shemira Saveas/Athalia (team bonus)

If you want a 3-2 or 3-1-1 team bonus. You might have a harder time with Wilder frontliners in ch5-6, though. Pull more heroes so you can edit your total lineup further along.

gritty mason
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Sorry @pale rover i was trying to figure out my best lineup to see who i should ascend. I am unsure of eironn currently. Right now 9-38 is destroying saveas, brutus, athalia, lucius, tasi.

trail gulch
pale rover
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@gritty mason For your lineup I'd pick Arden over Eironn. If you don't have a strong frontline he tends to pull the opponents and have your backline decimated.๐Ÿ˜…

vivid arch
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@trail gulch awesome now you can level those legends up to there cap and all your resonating characters will pass there level cap no matter ascension level

vocal saddle
naive orbit
pale rover
golden spade
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Advice on a team right now? Got the extra copies to make grez L+ just need one more food (can use vedan but not sure how I feel about it). Shemira is pretty useless until higher levels but still in the back of my mind. Sav just waiting one on more food should have in like 10 hours to make L+ then gonna level him up. Got like 3m exp saved up.

pale rover
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@vocal saddle Use Maulers, Graveborn or a mix of the two factions + Arden at the back.

vocal saddle
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@pale rover any particular reason for maulers and Graveborn? Thatโ€™s what I hear but idk why thatโ€™s the strat

pale rover
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@golden spade
Brutus Grezhul
Saveas Shemira Arden

Eat Vedan for Grezhul.

vivid arch
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@vocal saddle maulers to counter wilders, graveborn to counter light bearers. Kind of like keep them protected

golden spade
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Should I L+ Arden too then?

pale rover
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@golden spade Arden is always amazing to have as a cc even until ch20. L+ him asap!

ember bane
golden spade
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I guess I misspoke. Canโ€™t L+ yet Arden. But grez just L+ed lol.

pale rover
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@ember bane Araxis, please put both hero list and stage in one post always. Crop the images if they're too big.

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Guys we can't help you if you just say 8-40, or don't post your heroes. We don't know what you work with..

ember bane
pale rover
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@ember bane
Lucius, Thoran/Ezizh front
Belinda, Saveas/Silvina (team bonus), Shemira back.

Using Silvina and Thoran will give a 3-2 team bonus. If you need heals you can use Nemora in place of Shemira, no team bonus.

median anchor
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@pale rover should I swap lucius and khasos for arden and ezizh

pale rover
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@median anchor You can try that. But I'd keep Lucius for as long as he is able to use his ultimate shield skill for a general team. For that stage I'd avoid using Lightbearers.

median anchor
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Is it worth to sacrifice 3-2 bonus just to use arden?

pale rover
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@median anchor It is. Those roots can mean you win or lose. Preferably try keep at least 3 of them with a faction bonus, though. Brutus Khasos front, Saveas Belinda Arden back. Khasos bottom.

deft nebula
pale kettle
pale rover
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@deft nebula
You can go for:
Brutus, Golus (team bonus)/Lucius for front
Saveas, Belinda/Mirael (whichever you prefer), Arden for the back. Don't use Saveas for fodder, neither Arden. You can get Silvina to L with the 2 Vedan or wait and make Vedan L+ for using now and future fodder.. but all ascension questions go to #classic-questions channel.