@burnt flax That's a bit tough. Lots of GB but none who are tanks..
Hogan Ogi
Ira Athalia Arden
Hogan Athalia/Ezizh
Belinda Arden Silvina/Athalia
#lineup-help
pale rover
pale kettle
@dark cedar that's why you kick saveas, get more bonsu from fraxtion for hp, and put lvls in lucius
burnt flax
Thank your all
analog sparrow
Kind of stuck, anyone? <3
wise merlin
@analog sparrow Thane instead of Thoran, and Estrilda against* Golus. 100% of the time, her stun goes off before Golus can act, so it's worth it.
Swap out Silvina for Fawkes, and in the middle, put Athalia, swap Athalia's spot for Belinda so she will attack Niru.
Formation should look like so :
Athalia
Thane
Fawkes / Belinda
Estrilda
Belinda / Fawkes
analog sparrow
Ok I will try ^^
pale rover
@analog sparrow
Thoran Ogi (top) front
Silvina/Athalia Arden Ira
(3-2 team bonus)
Alternative to the answer above, but this team sorely lacks ascensions. Ira is great against Niru's healing.
Try Nicky's answer first and see how it works for you.
wise merlin
You have more experience in the game, I believe yours will work better 😂
analog sparrow
Well they barely killed one champ xD
wise merlin
@dark cedar Swap Lucius and Estrilda's positions in the frontline for this one ^^, I think it'd work better for you, also, Fawkes most likely wont be able to catch hold of anyone since Kaz has a high dodge ability
pale rover
@wise merlin There's not enough ascensions for the one I suggested, though. I'm worried about putting LB there because of Silvina and her rapidfire kill sprees, but their LB has more ascensions. 
@dark cedar That's a very good team indeed.
fringe warren
Need some help getting part 8-36, been stuck here for a while. I'm running a wilder setup. Any tips?
swift yoke
@fringe warren share your heroes list, will try to help
pale kettle
@dark cedar hogan will prob do better then estrilda tho
swift yoke
Arden, Lyca, Eiron on your backline. And you could tank with Hog and Vedan. I think this will workout nice
pale kettle
1st advice, try to not rely on serius, he sucks tbh, i mean dont ascend him higher
fringe warren
swift yoke
I hate ulmus and aqua man, would be taking with Hog and Vedan
trim moat
Any advices or a better line up setup with these heroes?
fringe warren
but what about the extra stats from having 5 wilders, is that not worth more?
civic gust
I always manage to get by with 4+sav
swift yoke
sometimes a better line up is more important than a union buff
pale kettle
@fringe warren swap erion and ulmus for belinda and hogan
stoic aspen
Any suggestions?
trim moat
Never mind I made that stage, but still want to know if there s any better lineup
fringe warren
@pale kettle I tried it out but it feels the same as my other setup. I'll just wait a few days till my heroes are stronger and then try again.
edgy seal
Any tips for 9-20? I get wiped out pretty fast
vivid stag
Hey guys i need some help please
undone plover
@vivid stag do you have lucius
vivid stag
Unfortunately no, i really need a replacement for ogi
undone plover
Will you post your legends
ornate night
what should my lineup be
undone plover
@ornate night Your line up looks fine but I would put Fawkes in there
Instead of estrilda
ornate night
i need to replace lucius atm
remote thunder
Stucked at 7-40 :(
vivid stag
@undone plover
swift yoke
@remote thunder Arden, Seaves, Golus, Brutus and Khasos. this should work
undone plover
@ornate night I would recommend you reset saveas and share some levels with lucius. Also get your crystal going
ornate night
lucuis is maxed. need another one
undone plover
@ornate night level up another epic+ and your legends in the crystal will level up past their rank
Reset your lucius and saveas and balance the levels. You should be able to get lucius 120 even if hes not epic+ through crystal
undone plover
Yup
worthy rain
Should I swap out ogi for Brutus? I feel like I have trouble in the current ogi slot
pale kettle
Any suggesties
undone plover
@worthy rain your best bet is to stay faction bonused
Brutus is good all around. His best is late 160+ but i suggest you find a comp that is faction paired
tulip valve
should I? both nem and arden are in my current lineup
undone plover
I would get Arden legendary. Arden is the best cc in the game
tulip valve
alright thanks
wise merlin
@tulip valve Wait, don't ascend anyone!
sharp heron
tips here?
tulip valve
haven't done anything yet @wise merlin
wise merlin
@tulip valve In all honesty, you can fodder* one of the Ardens but you should wait for more fodder. DO NOT use Nemora or Kaz as fodder for Arden, it's a horrible choice! :x
@sharp heron Swap Ira for Fawkes if she doesn't deal enough damage.
Swap Silvina with Nemora if your frontline survives long enough
tulip valve
I almost have another e+ arden so I guess I'll wait til I have it
wise merlin
@tulip valve It'd be the best call, and by that you'll also be able to ascend him to L+ too! ^^
tulip valve
yep, that's my plan haha thanks
worthy rain
@undone plover sorry still new. For faction pair do you mean the top right? I have the 3 faction bonus
buoyant jasper
Started yesterday and am stuck, Shemira solo carried until this point..
wise merlin
@buoyant jasper Hello. ^^
Could you send a screenshot of the enemy formation vs yours? Thanks in advance 
buoyant jasper
It has faction disadvantage all over but I didn't want to invest resources on units without knowing if they were good
wise merlin
@buoyant jasper You are beyond underlevelled 😳
Your only solution would be AFKing and receiving more resources, level them up like so :
Ferael to 70
Niru to 45
Vedan to 50
Silvina to 60
Don't invest any more resources onto Shemira, she's high level enough to cope, she needs strong teammates as she's not the best carry at her current Ascension tier.
As for you being in the early game it really doesn't matter who you invest resources onto, but I would say it'd be the best call to invest in Elite (Purple) tier heroes, for further features that'll make sense to you in the future. ^^
buoyant jasper
I see, thanks a lot!
wise merlin
Best of luck to you 
@buoyant jasper
digital axle
digital axle
The top row is my team but i cant get past kings tower 55 and every time i reach a boss fight in campaign i get stuck can i make any changes to my team?
wise merlin
@digital axle Hello. ^^ could you send a further screenshot of the King's Tower floor 55 formation vs yours? ^^ Thank you in advance. 😋
@willow merlin Swap Hogan with Tasi, place Tasi in the place Vedan stands in*. you would want to put all of your cc & DPS heroes up against Golus, as he has to die as soon as possible. and by that you'll also be able to use Vedan's ult properly.
However, don't use Vedan's ult unless there's 3 (or less) enemy heroes remaining, you wouldn't want your Ferael and Shemira dying from being targeted.
For further advices, please send your hero roster. ^^
wise merlin
@fair sky Unlock Arden's lvl 121 ability pass, as quick as you could. Not only that it'd increase his ability, it'd also increase all of your fellow Crystalized heroes' lvl 121 ability pass too! then you would have better choices to look up at ^^
fair sky
@wise merlin hm I thought saveas to 141 is my next step
And also all my heroes need to be 121 to unlock the 121 skills
Because Arden roots 3 enemies when he is 141, 121 is just a boost for his 1st skill and he dies before he can use it
wise merlin
I mean, Saveas' level 141 is nice and all, but think about Athalia's level 121, Seirus' level 121, Lucius 121, Estrilda, Lyca, Nemora, etc... Wouldn't it be more worth it to invest half the amount you would into Saveas onto Arden, and receive all of the rest of the heroes' level 121 for free?
worthy rain
Should I just continue with current team (first 5)? Or fit Brutus in?
wise merlin
@worthy rain Your lineup seems really good this far. ^^ Once you'll unlock the Resonating Crystal, you'll be able to use Brutus ^^
edgy seal
Need help with 9-20 please
worthy rain
Yea I did unlock it but I was messing with it and can’t put Brutus in atm 😂
fair sky
Nicky I need to lvl 3 heroes to 121 in order to get that 121 boost. That's 9k purple dust
willow merlin
@wise merlin vedans die before 3 enemy heroes remaining
spring estuary
Im going luci shem belinda tasi fawkes, think there is something better?
wise merlin
@fair sky *Right, well, Saveas it is then. I thought he was your last. my bad 😂
solemn hazel
Can anyone help please 13-12 been stuck for a week 😦
willow merlin
Thanks @wise merlin for ur advice... just need good timin
solemn hazel
@edgy seal do u have nemora?
wise merlin
@worthy rain Happens to all of the newcomers (even me when I was one 😂 )
@willow merlin Oh! you're welcome friend! best of luck further on! 😁
worthy rain
Haha 😂 btw which should I focus to 81 next?
edgy seal
@solemn hazel no 😔
spring estuary
Shem-luci tasi-belinda-faweks
Think i can have a better lineup? Im stuck for a long time
willow merlin
Which hero i need to level up?
Is it good to make all hero on same level?
left sierra
Please help , i cant get pass this level .is there anyway that i can win now or wair for 161Sherima ?
modest dove
should i feed arden?or should i keep him in my lineup & be patient?he’s good..but definitely much easier to build..
dark cedar
somber hemlock
https://gyazo.com/131d1ff8aeea86037036f07c88086edd need help https://gyazo.com/eeb8b16cbd1b6f7731b129918388ad5d
wise merlin
@solemn hazel Shemira is priority to reach level 180...
other than that, I would go with the formation;
Saveas
Brutus
Arden
Lucius
Shemira
It is a hard match for you since Shemira will be peeled off easily by Khasos and Saveas, maybe try a LB lineup including Estrilda, Belinda, Lucius, Nemora, and Thane?
See if they survive well enough?
2nd Formation advice :
Nemora
Lucius / Estrilda
Belinda
Estrilda / Lucius
Thane
@worthy rain Focus on getting Shemira to 81 first, then Hogan, Ogi, Tasi, and Nemora. ^^
dark cedar
So im stuck again xd
worthy rain
@wise merlin thank you sir 😀
wise merlin
@modest dove What chapter are you on currently?
Regardless, I would not rush to Ascend Nemora... Maybe if it was a Kaz I would give it a shot however, Nemora does the same job she would do at Mythic as she does right now... at least in my opinion, nothing big really happens
left sierra
Please help , i cant get pass this level .is there anyway that i can win now or wair for 161Sherima ?
wise merlin
@left sierra 161 Shemira will definitely make things easier, but try to fit more LBs into the lineup, they work really well against Maulers. 😋
@dark cedar Try this formation;
Tasi
Lucius
Mirael
Arden
Fawkes
The cc might clutch for you! ^^
willow spruce
Stuck at it need some help
modest dove
@wise merlin yeps thanx,was thinking the increase def isn’t that big a gamechanger and mostly just a stats boost for nemora..i’m stuck on 12-8..
dark cedar
@wise merlin wow, actuall master mind, ty
mystic willow
Sacrifice saveas to make Khasos mythic? I can always build saveas again is my thinking and khasos might help me reach 12-2
slender ether
Help 11-40
ember terrace
Stuck on stage 6-4, could use some advice. Tried a few line-ups so what I have is a bit random now.
willow merlin
Nicky never tired typing
wise merlin
@modest dove I think that you might need to wait until reaching level 141... Ascended tier Saveas looks scary as hell and I can't wrap my hand around a solution as I bet most frontlines you'll put there will die immediately ;-;
@mystic willow Yes. definitely. yes. especially if you can build him again.. -- His lifesteal at Mythic - Mythic+ tier is ridiculous (As bad as Shemira's, I would say xD )
@dark cedar You're welcome, best of luck further on!! 
@ember terrace Place Lyca in the resonating crystal, and swap her for Vedan, your new formation should look like so :
Saveas
Hogan
Mirael
Thoran
Lyca
mystic willow
Wow thanks @wise merlin !
oblique stone
Tips?
wise merlin
@pale rover Thanks for looking out! 😁 you could always help, I'm just happen to be pretty available rn due to nothing to do 😋
willow merlin
Which hero i need to level up?
wise merlin
@slender ether Try this formation;
Fawkes
Lucius
Nemora
Athalia / Estrilda (depending on who dies faster)
Estrilda / Athalia ( ^ )
delicate trout
13-4 need some help
pale rover
@oblique stone
Lucius Golus
Estrilda Tasi and supposedly Saveas. Please get him to L+ as early as you can. Meanwhile you can try Nemora at the bottom spot to charm the enemy Saveas/Khasos if she survives, I guess. Or Silvina.. but no team bonus either way.
wise merlin
@willow merlin Level up Shemira, and Hogan, you'll need to rely alot on your frontline that early on in the game, especially considering you have 2 frontlines who are both DPS, a little bit of crowd control and healing.
Shemira isn't that much of a frontline early game but if levelled enough she will cope ^^
solemn crane
A little bit of variety in the chat doesn’t hurt 🙃 most questions here can be answered with
Just level up your goddam saveas
Anyways...
willow spruce
Need some help 11-24
pale rover
@solemn crane This isn't the place for chat variety. It's literally just for lineup-help. If you want variety aside from looking for a guild you can talk in #classic-chat if it's game-related and #545919777907015684 otherwise.
solemn crane
Will do. Thanks for the information @pale rover
wise merlin
@willow spruce Place Athalia against Estrilda (Guaranteed first hit, Stun, and possibly even making her charge in the wrong direction, keeping your Nemora and Belinda safe for a little further.
New formation;
Nemora
Athalia
Belinda
Estrilda
Fawkes
mystic willow
How to pass this stage? Many in my guild with lower ascended heroes have gone to chapter 12
wise merlin
@mystic willow You definitely need to unlock both level 121 level for Crystal, and 141, I'm sorry but your Brutus and Tasi are too underlevelled to act 😳
mystic willow
Ok, I was hoping there was something I could do, but then I just have to wait 😃
Even if I reset shemira, I don’t have enough dust
wise merlin
@mystic willow It happens, but don't worry, as for having this ascension tier of heroes, not only that you'll pass this stage, you'll more than likely plow through chapter 12 ^^
swift yoke
@mystic willow you could try replacing arden with Athalia, and hope for the game to be stalled until Shemira ults
placid willow
I am looking for a good team comp ! Someone can help me ? Please
mystic willow
I hope@you are right @wise merlin 😍
@swift yoke thank you for that input, I will try it out immediately 🙏
pale rover
@delicate trout You're going to need to ascend other faction tanks a bit more.
Saveas/Seirus top Brutus bottom front
Arden Shemira and Estrilda (only for additional cc at the back but it's dangerous going against 5gb)/Saveas
hasty dawn
any ideas
wise merlin
@placid willow Hello. ^^
If you'd like a more specific input, could you please send a screenshot of the enemy formation vs yours? ^^ Thank you in advance
pale rover
@placid willow
Thoran Grezhul front
Shemira Arden Silvina back.
That's a general team. If you're stuck you'll need to share the stage.
swift yoke
@hasty dawn as an overall your team looks very good, but if you need help in passing this specific level I would recommend asking Nicky for advice
modest dove
@wise merlin yeps u’re right even lucius..u mean brutus 141?tat’s gonna b ages later,no copies of him at all..no worries thanx
ember terrace
Any advice for stage 6-4?
placid willow
The stage 9-32
hasty dawn
@wise merlin u have been summoned by hamdan
pale rover
@placid willow The team I gave you will work but you need more levels and ascensions.
sweet sonnet
Need help with lineup guys tnx
wise merlin
@hasty dawn 😂 Hello friend, let me take a look at your formation I'll come with an answer ASAP
placid willow
Ok thank you very much !
swift yoke
@wise merlin Sorry :3
hasty dawn
no worries take your time. I appreciate the help :)
delicate trout
@pale rover i had 10 faction scroll, but i want to wait to use it on LB day, should i used it for wilders today?
swift yoke
@sweet sonnet Syrina, Saveas, Arden, Golus and Hog. Sounds like a good general team
calm flame
pale rover
@delicate trout If you actually get good cc you don't need too much variety of tanks. Wilders are always my first recommendation. You can ask more people in #classic-questions too
wise merlin
@swift yoke It's okay. x3
@hasty dawn Okay, as far as I can see, you're following a 3-2 faction advantage, but it might be worth breaking it to remove Arden and in his place, put Fawkes.
That 7 second of out-of-combat of the strongest enemy (Which might be Ankhira, or Brutus) is pretty crucial to you. nonetheless, Nemora's charm can really mess their day up if the RNG is in your favor. give it a couple shots!
Specific formation;
Lyca
Golus
Nemora
Brutus
Fawkes
calm flame
Need help with 11-40 after buffs it is hard
swift yoke
@calm flame Share your heroes list
delicate trout
@pale rover i mean for my current line up, coz i don't have any L wilders(except arden) and 4 L LB, that's why i wait for LB day, but it's ok, thanks a lot
calm flame
pale rover
@ember terrace That's an okay lineup, you can try Estrilda at the back first over Saveas for a 3-2 team bonus and see if it works.
wise merlin
@sweet sonnet Hello. 😊
Could you send a screenshot of the enemy formation vs yours? ^^ Thank you in advance
dense leaf
Need help hard stuck at 9-20
hasty dawn
@wise merlin tysm for the in depth reply I'll try it out!
pale rover
@delicate trout You can do LB if that's what you have the most of, but if you're against a lot of GB, LB heroes won't help you.
@dense leaf Please refer to the pinned guide for 9-20.
Also please read the pinned posts before asking to help out those who are trying to answer too.
swift yoke
@calm flame your current formation is looks good, did you try repeating more than once? random plays a factor
wise merlin
@hasty dawn I wish you best of luck ^^ 
@pale rover Can you please tell me how to make that underline? ;-; I'm beating my head up over it, genuinely frustrating .-.
calm flame
@swift yoke I tryed about 800 times
still oar
@wise merlin line __line__
wise merlin
@still oar Thanks fam 
solemn hazel
@wise merlin thank you so much for the useful information 😍
swift yoke
@calm flame I would recommend placing arden, his root can easily make you win your games. But problem is he is currently R+ on your heroes list, so I am really out of ideas
wise merlin
@solemn hazel You're so very welcome friend, I wish you best of luck! 😁
wise merlin
@dense leaf #classic-questions
sly viper
@dense leaf i had only 1 L (Saveas) and i managed to pass 9-20
vivid stag
Help pls
pale rover
@vivid stag
Golus Grezhul
Eironn/Khasos (team bonus) Arden Saveas
swift yoke
I think Khasos will be a better option than Nemora in your lineup. Have Khasos tank instead of Saveas, and this will even provide the team with healing @vivid stag
Yes, I agree with Aero. And Arden root is totally random wise, so you may need to repeat the level more than once
south herald
Belinda always survive and kill my saveas and the bottom side is just disgusting Hogan and angello r not even scratch ;-;
pale rover
Eironn so he gets beaten up by Vedan and Niru and not anyone else so they can focus on killing.🤭
swift yoke
Could you share your heroes list teemo?
south herald
shut marsh
I have 9k dusts. I will make saveas 141 soon. What is the best 121 for me after making saveas? Thanks.
willow merlin
Any line up? Or need to level up?
wise merlin
@shut marsh Shemira. no doubt in my mind. then head for Lucius, Nemora, and also, there's something you must read..
swift yoke
@south herald Lyca, Seveas, Brutus, Arden and Tasi. this team should do the job as a general team. You can tank with Lyca or Arden, because you just need them for their startup abilities (Arden root, and Lyca haste) then you can hide seveas behind brutus
pale rover
@south herald
Lucius Estrilda
Fawkes Arden Isabella not working?
south herald
Will try
pale rover
You can try both suggestions.
wise merlin
@shut marsh
swift yoke
@willow merlin switch between your tasi and hog, let hog tank
pale rover
@wise merlin That's handy.
terse blaze
Been stuck on 6-36 for days. Tried switching to lightbringer characters like Belinda and fawkes with no luck. Estrilda gets shredded as a tank, sierus as well, especially since he's wilder and weak to maulers. Thought I'd get tasi to 101 to upgrade her charm but didn't realize elite only goes to 100. Completely stuck :/
wise merlin
@pale rover There's no way I wouldn't take a screenshot of such a message 😂 So much effort for it to be pushed up to oblivion? nahhhhh 😂 😂 😂
pale rover
@terse blaze
Hogan Grezhul
Shemira Tasi/Fawkes Saveas
Whoops no team bonus
swift yoke
@wise merlin thanks for you effort on helping others! so nice of you xD
shut marsh
@wise merlin ah right. Thanks. But i dont use shemira rn
@willow merlin swap hogan and shem slots?
wise merlin
@shut marsh Doesn't matter, as it says in the paragraph, you don't need to level up the most used ones, only the highest caps ones! 😁
Eventually, you'll level all of them up and your Crystalized heroes will increase too
@swift yoke I try my best 😂 😅
shut marsh
Hmm true 😂 alright then
swift yoke
@willow merlin Have Vedan and Hog infront, Shemira can't tank early on. But she can when she is beyond level 161
south herald
@pale rover @swift yoke Both didnt work xd I will just level up and pray
hasty dawn
@wise merlin I cleared it after a few tries with good rng thank you so much!!! ❤
wise merlin
@hasty dawn I'm so happy to hear that!! I wish you best of luck further on 💗
pale rover
@south herald I actually didn't notice your levels. Lol yes please level at least your frontline to higher than the opponent's level.
swift yoke
@south herald my lineup with arden and tasi is very random wise, you need to repeat many times until it work. I usually try 5 ~ 10 times then take a break, and come back after a period of time, and repeat the same thing
south herald
ok xd
vivid stag
@swift yoke i really don't know where to place eironn
willow merlin
@swift yoke thanks its work, vedan and hog infront
quartz scaffold
any suggestions fot thí stage 6-4 pls
wise merlin
@quartz scaffold Lightbearers are your best friend, try this formation;
Shemira
Hogan
Ferael
Ezizh
Ira / Seirus (depending on if you need more CC, or more DPS)
swift yoke
@vivid stag you could switch him with Khasos, and bring back Nemora. Didn't really try Eiron much, so don't know how well he goes with others. But defiantly, he is a beast with Brutus
terse blaze
@Aerostati still not working. Perhaps I'm too low level? I might need to rearrange my resonating crystal. Also, if the troops in the pe tagram are level 101+, will troops in the crystal who are not yet elite+ also be 101+? Or are they still capped at their own max level?
dark cedar
wise merlin
@terse blaze Yes, friend, they will be level 101 too, regardless of what Ascension tier they are at. Resonating Crystal is basically a way to cheat the system (given by the system 😂 😂 😂 )
spring estuary
Any tips on lineup and in general what to aim for? Im going shem luc, tris belinda fawkes
dark cedar
I passed some lvls, but have problems with this Mira
wise merlin
@dark cedar Swap your Mirael for Belinda, and Hogan with Arden, positions wise.
New formation ;
Tasi
Arden
Belinda
Lucius
Fawkes
swift yoke
@spring estuary I would say (Seveas, Lyca, Tasi, Arden and Lucius) In this lineup you will tank with either arden or lyca, you only need them for their startup ability, and you'll hide seveas behind lucius. I think this should work
willow merlin
Still stuck here, should i afk till i get reward?
muted stream
@dark cedar may be try swaping ardwn and tasi pos if it doesn't work try what nicky said
wise merlin
@willow merlin Try placing Safia instead of Shemira? her all around damage might clutch your game, give it several shots! ^^
spring estuary
@swift yoke thank you i will try that
swift yoke
@willow merlin or you could try to replace Tasi with Safia, and have double damage + the union buff
wise merlin
This chatroom is now silent 😳
God I'm so not used to it
swift yoke
@wise merlin I like how you are mostly recommending light heroes, while I am recommending wilders! xD
willow merlin
@swift yoke wont work
wise merlin
@swift yoke I would recommend wilders against graveborns 😋
swift yoke
@willow merlin did you try Nicky idea? if not, give it a shoot
terse blaze
Thanks @wise merlin. I'm going to redo my entire resonating crystal so I can start getting troops to 101 (holy crap it takes a lot of powder though)..... Still don't know why I should need 101+ to beat levl 91 team :(
willow merlin
Same @swift yoke i think need to afk
wise merlin
@terse blaze Could you send me a screenshot of your formation vs theirs? ^^
terse blaze
Sure.
This is after I reset my crystal, their levels were all at least 91 before. I also tried Tasi instead of fawkes. And also tried hogan/sierus, shem/fawkes/belinda
swift yoke
@willow merlin you could try to place Hog infront of the enemy Brutus. Because Light > Maulers. So this way you will get rid of Brutus
wise merlin
@terse blaze I would place Thane in the Crystal, not only that he's a crit monster, he's also of the LB faction, having bonus damage made onto Maulers!
Could you send a me another screenshot of your hero roster? I see you have a few level 1's in your formation, it confuses me slightly 😕
terse blaze
@wise merlin heres my roster. I have level 1s because I just reset my resonating crystal and all my slots are locked for 24 hrs lol 😭
torpid goblet
This is the last boss camp in the POT Viper’s Marsh. Can’t seem to beat it and might need some advice on what I should use against it
wise merlin
@terse blaze The ones I would put in the crystal & in your formation to fight this would be;
Thane, Fawkes, Kaz, and Nemora. (If not able, then don't put Kaz in the crystal)
Your future formation should look like so :
Nemora
Hogan
Fawkes
Thane
Belinda
terse blaze
Won't Kaz and nemora get shredded since they're wilder? My Hogan doesn't last very long even with purple gear
coarse flax
yeah but they are at the backline
wise merlin
@terse blaze Who does Fawkes take into the coffin? If Brutus, then place Hogan up against Brutus, so then your Hogan will last longer.
terse blaze
Ah ok... I didn't pay attention last time. I will try again in 24 hrs lol. Thanks for all the help @wise merlin ! :D
wise merlin
Please do ping me again if you need further help, I'm always available. 😊 @terse blaze
terse blaze
(probably not worth 500 gems to instantly reset crystal now, right?)
wise merlin
@terse blaze No-no, that would be a horrible choice, don't be impatient, this game is all about AFK (It even says it in the name! 😂 ) take it easy friend. ❤
terse blaze
Lol. Ok that's what I thought. Thanks :)
wise merlin
No problem. ^^
trim moat
Any help with a better line up or some advices to pass this level, should I wait to ascend saveas and afk?
Stage 7-28
wise merlin
@trim moat place Arden instead of Belinda, see if the cc he provides (on random, which means you should give it several tries) works in your favour. ^^
New formation;
Arden
Estrilda
Mirael
Lucius
Saveas
trim moat
@wise merlin I tried 15+ times nothing happening Lucius can’t even cast his shield cause of ogi, I replaced him with estrilda but she s dying fast saveas being the next target dying in seconds too
gilded fractal
@willow fog qhos your tankiest unit? none of your higher ascended are tanks, so i dont know exactly what to base my tank suggestions on. for now ill go with saveas/tasi (see if she can survive a few first hits) frontline and fawkes/belinda/athalia in front of mirael. or, you could try your first setup with arden instead of nemora? perhaps his hasted vines can help you out
wise merlin
@trim moat Ah.. That is really unfortunate.. well I guess you might need to get some more levels to progress further... I'm currently stuck at a level where my main 5 heroes are far above the PvE ones, but are just lacking some Ascensions.. 😅 It happens to almost everyone, no sweat ❤
willow fog
@gilded fractal yea,i also have estrilda but no other tanks at all. Drafts. Will try thanks
trim moat
No problem, eventually will get done for all of us, good luck with ur stage too 🤗
wise merlin
Thank you kindly. 🤗
dark cedar
@wise merlin @muted stream i actually used Fawkes Estrilda Belinda Lucius Tasi and passed to 7-32
wise merlin
@dark cedar Nice! ^^
dark cedar
I would love to build my team around Shemira, but without 161 and mythic its not possible :D
indigo frost
Should i sacrifice my top dps of my lineup (ira) to make kaz mythic?
gilded fractal
@willow fog good luck, lemme know if anything good happens
wise merlin
@indigo frost You might need another DPS before doing that... having 3 tanks (considering you'll be forced to level Thoran to 140) is a bit of a risky play... wait for another DPS source ^^
pale kettle
@indigo frost show me all heroes
hollow nexus
Anything can be done about this matchup or I have to wait?
willow fog
@gilded fractal tried 20 times both, didn't even got me to 1 champ down
gilded fractal
@willow fog geez. sorry my guy :( good luck
placid willow
Hi guys, i'm looking for a good composition to pass this stage and maybe for everyrhing in general before i get some lucius/tasi etc..
dark egret
Any idea?
indigo frost
@pale kettle
velvet epoch
My team is: Seirus, Hogan, Saveas, Ferael and Belinda... What should I go for? Nemora or Shemira?
Also, whats the best team I can form with these guys?
pale kettle
I can't get passed this stage and I started 4 days ago so I need help
willow fog
@gilded fractal thanks for trying
dark egret
Help me please
placid willow
I got another question ! Should i try to get Lucius or focus on my shemira ?
swift yoke
@velvet epoch I would say Seveas, Seiren, Lyca and Vedan
pale kettle
@indigo frost Simple solution, for ira use lyca to haste, move kaz to front and kick one of tanks, instead tank get saveas backlike and overlvl him
try it before fodding ira but im sure it will work, saveas>ira anyway
flat flax
Any1 got some advice for lineup? Struggling in chapter 8 (8-12). Can Buy a epic for labirynt store:)
wise merlin
@flat flax Hello. please send a screenshot of your formation vs theirs in addition please. thanks ^^
flat flax
@wise merlin
I can Get a accended sherima/or other desthsworn. But dont Know if ITS worth
wise merlin
@flat flax Change the positions of Tasi and Athalia, maybe try and get both of them to level 100 before continuing on. also, there's something you must read -
rugged marten
@flat flax you wanna take Lucius, Athalia and Tasi out of your pentagram and put heroes with higher level caps in, you're about to be hard capped by their level caps (level 100)
wise merlin
^ Essentially what Luke said. ^^
rugged marten
But in more words 😂
wise merlin
I'm a talkative person >_>
flat flax
Thanks:) give IT a try:). Should i go for sherima accended or just hold on too ny labyrinth currency?
wise merlin
@flat flax If you can purchase Shemira to ascend her, by all means go for it, you will not regret that purchase 😁
gaunt rover
In my first days I bought every rare shard from lab shop, I wish i would read @wise merlin tip long ago before ;_ ,
gaunt rover
fallow drum
Hi guys, I'm stuck in this stage. Any suggestion to change my line up?
wise merlin
@fallow drum You definitely need to level up more.. 😳
Your heroes are massively underlevelled... Your Crystalized heroes' level should be AT LEAST 137.
fallow drum
Thanks @wise merlin , is there a math to 137? Is it 143-5?
wise merlin
What do you mean by that question? not sure if I understand... @fallow drum
fallow drum
You mentioned at least level 137, how did you get that number?
wise merlin
Oh! yeah, it's just, your Crystal heroes will be stronger too, and you could play around your equipment and buff some supports that you might need more than Nemora., or DPS better than Athalia's
versed canopy
Hi everyone, had some success with this comp but I can't kill vedan, I know Im behind on leg heroes but any lineup advice would be appreciated
quaint spruce
.
versed canopy
forgot the screenshots
placid willow
What team comp should i do ? Please
wise merlin
@versed canopy Swap Nemora with Athalia positions wise, swap Khasos out and place Lucius, and Fawkes instead of Shemira, since Wilders have advantage over Graveborns and Arden & Nemora will most likely cc her to hell... New formation;
Fawkes
Lucius
Nemora
Athalia
Saveas
@placid willow Level up, you're critically underlevelled ;-; at least get to level 121 on all of them and then proceed. before you get Shemira to 160.
terse frigate
Hey guys any advices for main lineup for pve? can leg seirus thx in advance!
wise merlin
@terse frigate #classic-questions ^^
terse frigate
sorry tho it was lineup^^ mb
placid willow
Ok so my actual composition is good ?
wise merlin
@placid willow Yes, it really is. all you need is 121 for all of them (unlocking crystal too.)
@terse frigate No problemo! hope you'll get your answer! 😁
placid willow
Thank you so much ! I will try my best 😍
wise merlin
Best of luck, friend!
terse frigate
thx dude btw @wise merlin any idea on this one?!
wise merlin
@terse frigate You've placed Athalia at a good spot... putting Estrilda vs Vedan might not be a good idea since he can dodge really well, and him dodging your stun is pretty critical.. sometimes he doesn't, though, so I would refresh until he doesn't. :x
I would place Fawkes in the formation, maybe instead of Belinda, to see who he catches hold of... and he could also help in reducing attack speed of Vedan or Ankhira, depends on who'se closer ^^
terse frigate
gona try thx buddy
lusty nimbus
@wise merlin in need of your expertise once again 😅
wise merlin
@lusty nimbus Hello* Could it take several minutes? ^^
I'll let you know when I'm done eating and I'll contact you privately and assist you further! 😊
lusty nimbus
Yes no hurries 😋
dark cedar
Bon apetit @wise merlin
wise merlin
@dark cedar Thank you ^^
fierce kayak
@wise merlin wow Nicky, gratz on promoting to blue
wise merlin
@fierce kayak Thank you!!
indigo frost
@pale kettle sorry for late reply but like this? I will make kaz 141 instead of hogan when i get a few gems
sour plinth
Helppppp
delicate trout
@sour plinth ughhh that's very hurt
sour plinth
????? How did I hurt you😂
gaunt rover
@sour plinth I'm sorry but you need to wait more, the phases on that chapters are almost a wall for those guys just pushed a lot (like me xD)
burnt knot
Stuck here for a few days, any advice?
muted cairn
@burnt knot yes, and focus on levelling your Saveas
burnt knot
@muted cairn worth taking everyone back to 121 and power Saveas up as much as possible?
muted cairn
@burnt knot nope, waste of diamonds
wise merlin
@burnt knot Absolutely not. Regardless of waste of diamonds, Saveas is a middle-to-late game hero, which means that he will be used as Fodder eventually. Don't try to rush an AFK game~
muted cairn
+++
sturdy loom
Tips for stage 11-38?
muted cairn
@sturdy loom switch Raine and Shemira positions because Estrilda's charge will just mess Shemira up
sharp escarp
Tips for lineup? I'm giga stucked at 9-28 for a while
muted cairn
@sharp escarp switch Ira for Tasi
sharp escarp
@muted cairn so I use first 5 except it's for tasi?
muted cairn
@sharp escarp yeah, but you're gonna need more levels sooner or later
sharp escarp
Ok thanks, shall I use Baden?
hasty fable
Running “brutus and khasos” on the frontline and “ira lyca and arden” in the back. How should i improve my team?
wise merlin
@hasty fable Please add a screenshot of your formation vs the enemy's, it'd help me a lot while advising! 😊
hasty fable
oh I was thinking of in general who to invest in
wise merlin
@hasty fable Currently, your team is perfect as it is, sometimes I would swap out Khasos for Hogan as Hogan has more cc and somewhat more durability than a Khasos at that level.
Invest more resources onto Ira, Brutus,Mirael, then Hogan.
hasty fable
is it worth the faction bonus to switch him out ?
wise merlin
Sometimes, to have a decent faction advantage against a Mauler enemy, yes.
hasty fable
okay, I thought you want to overlevel people so I didn't level Ira much
gaunt rover
Is there a way to pass this with my team? the healing is insane and it seems just a meme battle
Nevermind I just passed with a pretty good start, sorry for the incovenience ;_ ;
wise merlin
😂 Well done ^^
pallid widget
Hi, I just started yesterday, any tips for the lineup please?
wise merlin
@pallid widget Hello, do you seem stuck on a level, or do you just want advices on who to focus on? ^^
pallid widget
I've this so far
I am kinda stuck yeah, and also advices on who to focus on.
I've chosen based on the rarity mostly so far, and put a support in
wise merlin
@pallid widget Okay, well, as for this current lineup, facing Estrilda vs Ogi and Hogan vs Eletha might be the better choice.
Put your formation like so;
Numisu
Estrilda
Vedan
Hogan
Kaz
See if it helps out! ^^
Also, once you'll unlock the Crystal and you've yet to receive another E tier (Purple colored) hero, then reset Vedan and level Ferael instead, if you'd like to know why, ping me again and I'll let you know ^^
pallid widget
@wise merlin Thanks a lot, I will level Ferael then, and yes I'd like to know why? What if the other purple I receive is something like a support, should I just keep using a blue instead ?
wise merlin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587309016322146337/Screenshot_2019-06-06-10-18-54-989_com.discord.png @pallid widget
If you're worried about other E tier heroes, don't worry, the only crucial part is putting your 5 main as heroes that are commonly found by purchasing them, or just ones you've luckily received many dupes of through the Tavern. ^^
pale kettle
@indigo frost ye but maybe lyca and saveas position swap and rush him to 160
gaunt rover
Also in the future don't use heroes that can be 
as a sacrifice to ascend
wise merlin
@gaunt rover That slightly contradicts himself... especially considering... - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/565837915343552512/QQ20190402003846.jpg
gaunt rover
No one saw anything e_e
wise merlin
Lolol
dark cedar
gaunt rover
@dark cedar Do you have time to reach ultimates before lose? If that's the case put the pink haired women instead of tasi because it has an insane sinergy with belinda
swift yoke
Hello, anyone needs help with his/her lineup?
pale kettle
@swift yoke seems like (at least for me) server dead on mobile version, therefore chat dead
swift yoke
@pale kettle ohhh ok, make sense. Cause not seeing anyone type here nor on #classic-questions
wise merlin
@swift yoke 😂 I'll let you manage this chatroom for now
worthy rain
@wise merlin finally back up now lol the server keeps going down
wise merlin
I've noticed! Discord must be really taking an L right now 😂
worthy rain
Haha
swift yoke
@wise merlin ty senpai nicky, very humble of you
vapid meadow
any1 know what u can do when u cant beat anything with the levels u have rn
muted cairn
@vapid meadow dailies - wrizz, labyrinth, peaks of time, arena etc
wise merlin
Oof lol
vapid meadow
@muted cairn already did that
muted cairn
@vapid meadow nothing then really.
vapid meadow
any1 know how i can improve the fastest i am new downloaded it like 24h ago
muted cairn
@vapid meadow spend a lot of money
gaunt rover
Just chill ma dude
vapid meadow
spend money on what exactly?
muted cairn
@vapid meadow diamonds, stargazer but you probably havent unlocked that yet
wise merlin
@muted cairn You shouldn't convince others to spend money on a game, that's not the way to advice people.
muted cairn
@wise merlin someone asked a question, I answered.
wise merlin
I'mma redirect you to the very first pinned message of this chatroom @muted cairn
muted cairn
@wise merlin what about it?
swift yoke
@vapid meadow sometimes the best option is to just go (AFK) and come back awhile later
vapid meadow
yeah but afking is boring
gaunt rover
@vapid meadow But the game is called Afk arena
muted cairn
@vapid meadow helps to play other games too
vapid meadow
yeah yeah i know but afk arena is addicted
ancient meadow
Any advice on ch13-12 stuck on this stage?
muted cairn
@ancient meadow Lightbearers for Mauler bonus, and just level up more, your Brutus wont survive Golus
gaunt rover
@vapid meadow Take care it doesn't get you hard addicted, playing and having fun a lot it's ok but don't get too overexcited in a bad way with it
vapid meadow
yeah yeah i know
chrome lark
https://imgur.com/a/loFAYiJ what can I do to pass this stage
wise merlin
@chrome lark Hello. ^^
Try this following formation;
Silvina
Thoran
Belinda
Estrilda*
Lyca / Baden (If haste isn't required, Baden can always make a good replacement)
chrome lark
@wise merlin I still can't beat it :/
wise merlin
Then instead of replacing Lyca with Baden, keep Lyca there and replace Silvina with Baden, since she's probably dying too early and just feeding energy.
chrome lark
should I not use shemira or brutus at all?
wise merlin
Thing is.. your Brutus' tier isn't that high and LB has a faction advantage over maulers... if he survives more than the other frontlines I would, but I personally don't use both of them much, maybe I'm the wrong person to ask of them :x
swift yoke
Hello, sorry to interrupt but may I try to help? xD Time to place some wilders here
Ezzollo, could you send your heroes list?
dark cedar
Anyone can help me with this stuck, posted screens upside
swift yoke
I think this would work Ezzollo Arden, Lyca, Shemira, Thoran and Baden
Give it a try, you'll need to repeat the level more than once, because Arden CC is totally random. so repeat until things goes your way
but if you see no potential at all, then don't waste your time repeating
chrome lark
who should I put in the front ? shemira and thoran?
crisp thorn
swift yoke
Thoran and Baden, or you could replace between Baden and Shemira
crisp thorn
swift yoke
Saveas, Brutus, Golus, Tasi and Lyca. I would say go with this build Dhamm. Or you could replace Tasi with Arden, or Lyca with Arden
dark cedar
swift yoke
Yeeees, they carried me from chapter 1. And yes sure would love to help, but I am pretty sure you know more than I do xD
dark cedar
Posting once again due to discord down
swift yoke
@dark cedar Your current lineup is good, but switch between mirael and fawkeys. So it would be something like (Belinda, Lucius, Arden, Tasi and Fawkeys)
wise merlin
Currently I'm relying on RNGesus in both lineup ways (cc, stuns, etc) and in 10x pulls (I'm not that far off from another pull) 😂 what should I do?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587352972846039074/Screenshot_2019-06-09-21-48-41-098_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587352973554745378/Screenshot_2019-06-09-21-48-49-292_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.png
swift yoke
Arden and Lucius will tank, because you only need arden for his root. This you'll have to stall the game until tasi and belind ult
wise merlin
10-21 btw
dark cedar
Welp, they kinda die before ult even which makes me sad
swift yoke
Nicky, I would recommend this Lyca, Arden, Tasi, Seveas and Brutus. Not sure if it will work xD but I hope it does, you'll hide Seveas behind Brutus. And will tank with Lyca or Arden. I HOOOOPE THIS WORKS, then it will be confirmed (Wilders > Light)
@dark cedar Ok, then I think you will need to remove Tasi or Lyca, and replace them with another tank. Maybe, Thoran? I am not a fan of estriida, very squishy
dark cedar
Okey, ur 1st setup works perfect, Arden rooted hogan and angelo and fawkes trapped belinda
wise merlin
swift yoke
No, like this
Seveas
Brutus
Arden or Lyca
Arden or Lyca
Tasi
dark cedar
With arden you actually need to reroll few times and its good
swift yoke
I would say try with Lyca infront at first, I always prefer to keep her infront instead of Arden. And yes Emperor, with Arden it is a must to retry the level more than once
wise merlin
They all die too early before any of them can cast ult, i'm putting out my Estrilda (who has been outperforming every other tank I have) Fawkes (who takes Ankhira out for 8 seconds, allowing me to survive a little longer) and Belinda (who buffs 3 of my allied heroes' damage)
I lost x.x
swift yoke
Don't try to make light heroes sound good, estrilda is useless, fawkes is useless, belinda is super useless. You lost because you are not connected with your wilders, share the same soul as theirs, and you'll reach chapter 26
swift yoke
Fawkes has been a fodder to me, same goes to all light heroes. they all are fodders tbh, not sure which one to keep
wise merlin
Lucius?
swift yoke
<///////////////////3 He is stuck on L, can't get any of him, missing 4 E Lucius
So I really dunno what to do with my current light heroes, they all look like fodders to me. Like for real, they never fitted any of my lineups
wise merlin
@swift yoke I won! but with this formation 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585174188248268801/587356402796724225/Screenshot_2019-06-09-22-03-43-088_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.png
swift yoke
NOOOOOOO 😦 You was supposed to win with the wilders
wise merlin
XD
vapid meadow
any1 have tips on how u get fast hero experience (for low players i just started and am lvl 22 rn)
swift yoke
I think early on you get to level fast with the campaign quests, they helped me progress alot. And ofcourse, the other typical daily things
wise merlin
@vapid meadow If you're a P2W player (don't mind paying with real life money), just buy what the game has to offer.
If not.. AFK is the only solution for you..
swift yoke
you obtain them from the daily quests, and the weekly. And I guess even the labrynth gives you
vapid meadow
labyrinth is cooldown and did al the quest already
swift yoke
you'll have to wait I guess
vapid meadow
ty for help once again
dark cedar
@swift yoke so this is the last stage in chap7, i alrd did tried few times but they are just too strong :z
swift yoke
you could try to switch between fawekys and shemira
vapid meadow
i only have 2 purple wich is annoying me
swift yoke
you'll eventually get plenty of them, but you have to be patient
dark cedar
Nah with Shemira its just wipe
vapid meadow
403 hero xp till i can upgrade this character to lvl 61
dark cedar
@vapid meadow i did "reroll server" strat, untill you get good elits you keep changing servers. But it require time to collect 2700 diamonds then spend it on 10 rolls
vapid meadow
than i reset acc right?
swift yoke
yes, but it is time consuming. collecting 2700 diamonds doesn't happen very fast
vapid meadow
its not worth it for me because i almost have my first lvl 61 player
dark cedar
Its my 2nd acc btw Hamdan, on my 1st i only was getting fodders as elites so i was sad
swift yoke
Emperor, if you can't win at all. even after trying many times, then call it a day. try tomorrow after buffing your heroes, equipment and all
vapid meadow
i need 2 more gifts from friends than i have 10
tired agate
how can i beat this
dark cedar
@vapid meadow Overlvl your carry then blast campaign
vapid meadow
wow red that looks OP
emperor when i have this lvl 61 i can beat 4-16 was stuck there for now
dark cedar
Hm, screen ur heroes?
vapid meadow
1sec
dark cedar
Vedan was my cary untill 5chapter tho, Silvina also is nice if overleveled
peak stratus
can anyone help ;o ?
swift yoke
you could try to switch nemora with khasos, and then switch between khasos place and saveas.
vapid meadow
swift yoke
I think this would be better @peak stratus
Tasi
Khasos
Arden
Brutus
Saveas
dark cedar
I actually saw r1 player on my server ascedned khasos and 3star him
swift yoke
at one point you ascend all heroes, even ulmus
@vapid meadow the elites you have are very good, and they are very important in progressing
wise merlin
@swift yoke I thought you like Wilders
peak stratus
if i use silvina, instead of tasi works better dunno why
vapid meadow
ye i am getting them both to lvl 61 and than when labyrinth has reset i can buy a new 1 and upgrade that 1 also
wise merlin
@peak stratus Yeah, Tasi is very RNG reliant, Silvina has a specific path and will always follow that path, in PvE.
swift yoke
Ulmus isn't a wilder, Ulmus is a disgrace to wilders, he is their tree
wise merlin
True, He's CeLeStIaL
swift yoke
Tasi is about repeating the game, over and over, until you win. because she is very random
gaunt rover
Tasi is waifu change my mind
wise merlin
@gaunt rover Tasi is underaged.
swift yoke
No, I am pretty sure Ulmus is actually a light hero, but lights can't have anymore useless heroes xD "TASI IS LIFE"
gaunt rover
@wise merlin Surprised pikachu
Ulmus isn't that bad but it's actually bugged a bit or at least that's what reddit says
swift yoke
Who is Ulmus?
gaunt rover
harsh gazelle
big tree. Bad tank >:^(
swift yoke
Looool, exactly, a useless tree
wise merlin
@peak stratus You might want to place LB heroes instead of maulers since they have a faction advantage... Maybe try Hogan, Estrilda front line? see if it helps in any way?
Also, you could replace Silvina for Tasi while doing that.., Yeah, it'll decrease your faction bonus but it might work if you claim it to be better.
Offered formation;
Tasi / Silvina
Hogan
Nemora
Estrilda
Arden / Fawkes
(Fawkes for the possible 8 seconds of absense of their strongest enemy)
swift yoke
Ok see, I would be fine with Ulmus being a useless tree. But he is actually more than that, he can teleport. So it adds more to the useless function of the hero
harsh gazelle
If his healing was stronger and his defense was better, he'd be a perfectly fine unit
wise merlin
@swift yoke Don't be mad x3
peak stratus
Tasi, hogan nem, brutus sav , won it lelelelel
swift yoke
I just removed him, so I am trying so hard to make him sound useless, to not regret foddering him
wise merlin
Nice 😁
gaunt rover
Ulmus is pretty Fodder ™
swift yoke
Did you hear about the new faction? Fodder type
wise merlin
@swift yoke Celestial / Hypogean, basically
gaunt rover
Are u saying Celestial = Fodder?
icy mist
Idk i like hypogeans their 30% defense boost is kind of insane ngl.
gaunt rover
Mess with Athalia you get Distroyia (i tried)
swift yoke
Calestial and Hypogean in a nutshell = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
icy mist
Especially when you have skreg and his 50% damage reduced from all ranged damage and are up against khasoses and ranged in the tower XD
swift yoke
Only whales can use calestial and hypogean heroes
vapid meadow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/587362246267633743/587365670258475009/Screenshot_20190609-214119.jpg?width=266&height=473 what should i get when i have enough
grizzled solar
wise merlin
@vapid meadow Nemora first, then keep buying Shemira the next months
@vapid meadow Next time, ask these type of questions at #classic-questions ^^
grizzled solar
Need help for 6-36
gaunt rover
This should be on #classic-questions but you can go 1 Nemora full shemira or full Shemira all the way because i'm a shemira fanboy @vapid meadow
swift yoke
Problem is I never was lucky enough to get them on early game 💔 so haven't really tried that feeling, the feeling of getting carried by a Celestial or Hypo early on. @hexed stratus Now they are just useless for me in Mid game, they are E while others are L+ and above
grizzled solar
My E+ ezizh helps me at 11-20 so @swift yoke
vapid meadow
@wise merlin i already have nemora e+
grizzled solar
You can never have too many nemoras
swift yoke
@grizzled solar I think, you should switch between Fenreal and Belinda. And you should be able to win easily, you are ahead on level
grizzled solar
I'll try that
swift yoke
This way you'll get the union bonus, and Fenreal deals insane damage as an overall, so passing the level should be easy peasy
wise merlin
@vapid meadow If you already have a Shemira E, then buy another... If not, buy another Nemora, it's not a bad offer.
grizzled solar
Every time I try 80% of the Time my tasi ghost brutus and my Shem uses her orb on him and its useless
icy mist
swift yoke
@grizzled solar yeah this happens often, but can be ignored
grizzled solar
Is that photo blurry for anyone else 
icy mist
Blurry?
swift yoke
It is blurry, Djole I think your team is more than decent as a formation. If you can't win then consider upgrading your equips, or AFKing for awhile
icy mist
grizzled solar
Little better
swift yoke
you should be able to win this easily djole, you are on par with the level and your formation is good. Maybe switch between Seveas and Belind? or maybe try to switch lucius with ezizh?
grizzled solar
I always hate when vedan goes into bat mode and heals and does damage to my hero's but can't hit him he should be an ascended hero
gaunt rover
@grizzled solar If you have tasi and good dmg you can kill him before he does that but yes, batman is op
young vigil
Tried different stuff already, should I just keep leveling my Mirael? Also, would it be worth it to feed Mirael/Estrilda into Lucius to get him legendary?
grand crane
@young vigil Swap in Est for Hogan and then line them up against Brutus, you also have no faction bonus
So swap Shem for Mirael
young vigil
ya i usually have my faction bonus from mirael instead of arden, but i also already beat it LOL ty for ur help tho
grand crane
No problem, I just saw it here unanswered ^^
grand crane
Put Saveas at the highest, you also lack a faction bonus
hexed stratus
I was running 4 LB/Ezizh, but ended up just trying random combos
Estrilda/Belinda/Fawkes/Thane(or Raine) and Ezizh is how I got from 9-20 to this stick spot at 9-35
grand crane
Make everyone 101 and get Belinda as high as you can, then Saveas after
polar jolt
Wait is ferael actually any good?
polar jolt
Alright cause he was my first and man I hated him lol, seemed useless
grand crane
He does get unlocked later on, so I suggest not foddering him! He becomes very useful and he's permanently on my team now
hexed stratus
Please never fodder Ascended tier heroes unless you've max ascended them etc
grand crane
Except for: Isabella, Seirus and Raine
hexed stratus
gaunt rover
This is the graveborn epic combo
hexed stratus
No, I don't agree with doddering Isabella or Raine. Especially not Isabella, as she's a lategamr oriented unit.
grand crane
Those 3 are not at all good in late, Raine being the best of the three but still quite useless, once you reach mid game/late game you'll understand
hexed stratus
I've seen people go to chapter 25+ with Isabella as their main GB. She has some merit.
So when is midgame then?
grand crane
People who use Isabella are soul GB players, I see Isabella nowhere else in the meta and is very simply used as fodder
gaunt rover
This is quite interesting for my research purposes
hexed stratus
I'd also say that GB combo has probably changed for arena and/or PvE with the addition of Baden and Nara.
grand crane
161+, so no where close to where you are rn Fran
Aru I'm gonna PM you
gaunt rover
New heroes haven't tested yet so probably it changed
hexed stratus
Baden himself while a squishy bastard has scary dps output, from what people have said.
fair raptor
He needs to live long enough to ult though
hexed stratus
If 161+ is midgame I wonder where lategame is, most people put 1-61 as early and 61-141 as mid
grand crane
240+
hexed stratus
Hmm, I don't think 240+ is the sole late game... I could be wrong here but most guides don't refer to it that way at all
fair raptor
I'd say when your heroes reach close to all ability ranks is lategame. So around 160-200 depending on hero. 240 is a bit far fetched. With the addition of more chapters its eventually gonna shift towards that but right now I dont think you need to make it that far.
grand crane
Then idk what guides you're reading, unless it's people who consider 161 late game, wait til you hit 161, you'll realise how long it takes
Just have to get there first
fair raptor
@grand crane How do you define late game? Is it just time spent there? For me its more about mechanics/heroes and how they evolve. When they stay the same and its just gain x levels it doesnt change the game state for me.
grand crane
Late game is considered 240 because you can go MUCH higher than 240, I believe around 360 at the moment
fair raptor
385 I think with the new heroes
grand crane
Nonetheless, once you've got all heroes at 240, that's when late game starts
fair raptor
Whats your basis for saying that?
grand crane
All heroes' abilities are maxed out
Most players here who are further and have played the game for a while won't consider 161 late game, because you've only unlocked a little more than half of the heroes main abilities and features. I'm gonna move on from this anyway, you kinda just have to see it for yourself when you eventually get around 161-240
hexed stratus
So late game is only when everyone is max? That isn't currently possible for f2p who haven't played for 3-4 months plus is it?
grand crane
Everyone max is 385, I just said abilities get maxed out at 240, difference
hexed stratus
How long does it take without money. If it's longer than launch itself, then it's unrealistic.
gaunt rover
I think there are two phases you're talking about late game
1-60 early (for sure)
60-160 midgame (because legendary+ cannot be more that 160)
160-240 1 lategame (because abilities)
240+ 2 lategame
hexed stratus
I think that's better tbh. Especially since I think even beta playing f2p are still at maybe 220?
pale kettle
Late game is 240+
grand crane
Fran, can you tell me honestly how long you've been playing this game?
pale kettle
The games been out just over a year
hexed stratus
Mmm... Probably about a month at this point? Even if it was a month or two months, two months (or even launch for most EU nations, like where I live) isn't viable for 240+. I'd assume it takes 4ish months to get five units to 240 if not longer
pale kettle
61-141 is not mid game, can get to lvl 61 in like 5 hours lol
grand crane
"EU" It was released in the UK for a while
pale kettle
I'm in the EU and have been playing 9 months, my alt I've been playing 6 months, which is on chapter 22
hexed stratus
Not everyone gets the game at the same time and availability. UK isn't even EU if you ask an apparent majority.
grand crane
Excuse me I'm moving on
terse bison
That is not a discussion for this chanel
pale kettle
UK isn't EU? are you fucking stupid lol? Get out kid
hexed stratus
Does either have full 240, Dolly?
Then six months isn't even enough for 5 240. That's a lot of time for not ever hitting endgame.
fair raptor
@pale kettle Are you full f2p?
grand crane
@hexed stratus Who has told you who has been playing for more than 2 months, that 161 is late game?
hexed stratus
Multiple players in this channel?
terse bison
THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION FOR THIS CHANNEL. PLEASE KEEP THIS CHANNEL FOR LINEUP HELP ONLY AND MOVE TO #classic-chat
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
hexed stratus
Understood, I thought you meant the political comment.
brave grove
Any help here?
gaunt rover
@brave grove who is getting the first attack of silvina?
olive thorn
@hexed stratus mid 161-220 and late 221+
brave grove
@gaunt rover nemora
magic ingot
What kind of team i should make? i have no idea of what i am doing
gaunt rover
@brave grove Let's try something
Nemora
Hogan
Lyca
Shemira
Tasi
If your hogan doesn't last long change it with saveas but seems pretty hard
Or Lucius, I think Lucius will last more than Hogan
brave grove
Let's see
fresh turret
exotic zephyr
@hexed stratus helo, 141 is not midgame, bye
pale kettle
brisk slate
fresh turret
No clue
gaunt rover
@pale kettle
Belinda
Lucius/brutus
Tasi
Lucius/brutus
The crypt man don't remember his name
I think that will be enought
supple ice
@brisk slate Saveas
brave grove
@gaunt rover with saveas seems to be going better still not able to win ... I guess some more lvls needed :p
urban trellis
Stuck on 11-20 any help?
supple ice
Also, shem is useless in your comp @brisk slate , use Lyca or belinda instead
gaunt rover
@brave grove Sorry man lineup is not my speciality ;_ ;
supple ice
I hate this chat, if you need help just DM me
ivory goblet
@fresh turret Put khasos in crystal then Ulmus and khasos in front, Nem behind (In front of ennemy saveas), tasi and saveas behind.
rare burrow
steep cape
@rare burrow who else do you have
rare burrow
sharp escarp
Lineup?
fallow apex
Who should I ascend?
open mural
Save your fodder for better heroes @fallow apex
thorny frost
Any help here?
fallow apex
Alrighty
pale rover
@fallow apex #classic-questions for Ascension
fallow apex
Thanks
pale rover
@rare burrow
Thoran/Skregg Ogi
Lyca Arden (you'll need him)/Eironn Silvina/Saveas
Both have 3-2 team bonuses
@sharp escarp
Hogan Brutus
Mirael Arden Raine
@thorny frost
Lucius top Skregg bottom front
Arden/Fawkes Saveas Belinda back
strong basin
help plz
uncut bridge
@strong basin No reason to be leveling 6 heroes. Reset ezizh and one other between thane, isabelle, and shemira, and place the ones you actually use in resonating crystal. Level up arden to 81.
For lineup on this stage, ezizh top-front and thane/vedan bottom-front. belinda arden safiya in the back
hollow current
Just got my shemira to 161 today. She’s really underwhelming. The Saveas who used to be level 160 seemed to outperform her in every way
uncut bridge
Is that a question or a request for lineup help?
hollow current
I need lineup help in general. Idk who I should run anymore
uncut bridge
Might be a difference in equipment. My saveas had 2 mythic pieces and my shemira had 0 at this point so I kept using saveas for a while lol
As far as lineup, some standard combo of brutus/lucius/shemira/saveas front with nemora + lyca + tasi in back seems like it'd be alright for campaign. Assuming there's no major discrepancy in equip, I'd probably start investing in shemira at this point and use saveas for M brutus when you get enough E+ mauler fodder
if shemira and saveas in front are dying really quickly, then just put brutus/lucius front and put shemira/saveas in back in nemora's spot
crisp thorn
south loom
Stuck on same level for few days.
uncut bridge
@crisp thorn move silvina out of crystal and level her to 141 so you can get 141 on all your heroes 🤔 141 helps a lot, especially with heroes like nemora tasi arden
Move brutus to bottom, and maybe swap golus for nemora and put lyca in the back. lucius would be a good tank here as well (lucius/brutus, tasi nemora saveas) but losing faction bonus might hurt too much
crisp thorn
@uncut bridge ty!!
dull mirage
I'm stucked at this for like 3days..any constructive suggestion from the flow? Much appreciated!!
vocal saddle
10-8 tips? Been here for a few days now
uncut bridge
@dull mirage heroes seem good, think it's just position. Try Brutus/Lucius front, saveas/fawkes/belinda back or maybe fawkes/saveas/belinda. the goal is to kill vedan and niru as soon as you can.
@vocal saddle more cc if you can (fawkes, arden, etc.). I think brutus (tank saveas and khasos + defense debuff, then put your saveas in top corner) and/or ezizh (bottom) would help too. Try Brutus/Ezizh front, nemora/saveas/(arden or fawkes) back? Retry until nemora charms saveas and kills his own team lol
silver pebble
Looking for suggestions on lineup as well
pale kettle
Should I use hogan to make lucious, Belinda, or estrilda mythic?
tacit sail
@pale kettle I would. Hogan is only so-so and you have estrilda and luscious for the front already
uncut bridge
@pale kettle #classic-questions
@silver pebble lucius and nemora/hogan front, saveas | lyca | tasi/arden back for now
silver pebble
Thanks @uncut bridge !
undone plover
Stuck on 12-12 been trying for a few days now and nothing. Looking for any help. Thanks. Will be posting legends in a minute
pale kettle
I've Belinda mystic, Seirus Mystic, Estrilda Legendary +, Nemora Legendary + and Athalia elite +
Should i level up athalia to legendary or buy 1 elite fawkes? (With legendary coins, already have 249k)
My lvl comp is 146~160 where athalia is the lowest and the belinda the highest
undone plover
uncut bridge
@pale kettle Since you're using her regularly, I would buy the athalia, personally. But I'm sure others would disagree with me and say go for fawkes lol might want a second opinion in #classic-questions
pale kettle
asked at it
undone plover
No help ight I'll ask later
tawdry cipher
Suggestions on how to beat this level?
snow meteor
fallen token
No idea what to do. Please help so I can get my ten bonus scrolls for graveborn day lmao
muted stream
@fallen token try brutus lyca front
Arden behind on the top left nemora and shem behind Brutus
next magnet
@boreal hull dont put lucius in front of their saveas
supple ice
Just put brutus on lucius place and lucius on estrilda place, see how it goes without the faction bonus
muted stream
@boreal hull swap arden bel position maybe so that he wouldn't be interupted by khasos
old needle
uncut bridge
kuro in #lineup-help 
supple ice
Use athalia instead of safiya, put athalia in frontline and khasos backline
what is #lineup-help, I thought this was my DMs
boreal hull
I tried it like so but estrildas charge thing kills my whole top 3, am I underleveled or
supple ice
If her charge kills your whole team then yes, but you could get away with it with lucky roots, maybe put saveas up top so he kills estrilda faster, if it ends up in your saveas X enemy saveas you’ll win
boreal hull
Hm, I tried that and morvus' grenades killed my belinda and arden lol, next try khasos' axe went through and killed em. Guess imma just have to wait for copies to ascend
ashen dew
Any ideas on what to do to my lineup?
abstract shuttle
Any line up help for 11-36?
willow merlin
@abstract shuttle show ss of battle
fresh star
novel tusk
Any suggestions? Or just underleveled
tulip meadow
quaint spruce
@tulip meadow ur heroes are very Low. Brutus and Lucius needs to be at least elite+
if ur on chapter 8,graveborn enemies are common try using Lyca instead of Saveas
novel tusk
you could go shemira lucius fawkes anthalia lyca
lavish lichen
Finally got a 2nd Brutus. Should I take out Shem for him? So Lucius, Sav, Brutus, Belinda, and Fawkes?
novel tusk
no take out sav because he isnt ascended high enough and if you take out the shem you lose alot of your damage.
forest ember
Is this lineup any good?
runic mesa
Can someone help me on 11-28?
crystal dragon
Feels like I have weird heroes to work with. Like I have no decent tank. Missing type bonuses.
I'm way short on heavy armor pieces in general.
steep cape
I’d run sav nomu eirron Sirius and Arden @crystal dragon I actually like the heroes you have and am extremely jealous of eirron and nomu
pale kettle
Should I replace saveas with shemira after getting her to mythic. Also, who should I sac?
abstract shuttle
@loud laurel
scenic junco
Ah? @abstract shuttle
wispy cosmos
@crystal dragon at your level, Hogan is a decent tank. Eironn probably does okay too
scenic junco
wrong ping i guess
silent wraith
working comp to beat 15-40
sand rune
My current lineup against 8-28. Suggestions for me? Thanks!
wispy cosmos
@silent wraith does your bottom half just get eaten alive with that setup?
silent wraith
reset until nemora charm ferael, tasi then ults with her cc, everybody at this point is still alive, even my lyca at elite, after that shemira will clean up with arden roots
if u need help on which dura I used leme know
@silk dew u need some sort of healing
silk dew
So am I screwed till I pull a new champ?
silent wraith
that muualer healer isnt that good
runic mesa
Help with 11-28? I keep getting beyond wiped
pale rover
@runic mesa I'm sorry to tell you that it's your levels, that's why you're wiping. Ascensions, too. The Brutus you're using is Elite vs an Ascended Khasos.
Replace Nemora with Arden (make him L+ if you can), Estrilda top front and Lucius bottom front. You can also try Saveas front at the top and Estrilda at the back.. move them around but level first.
runic mesa
I can’t level them. I don’t get enough xp. I don’t get any pulls because I don’t get gems from beating levels
silent wraith
@silk dew how come u dont use legendary hogan
silk dew
I was and was still getting wiped
pale rover
@runic mesa You're going to have to AFK and wait. That level difference is too large.
runic mesa
My Brutus is stuck elite
silk dew
I think I am going to try again with 4 Lights + Saveas.
Hogan Bel The Healer Dude Horse Lady + Saveas
wispy cosmos
You level then by just afking 😃
silent wraith
u might have to buy nemora from lab
runic mesa
I have afked. My account is 2 months old
I don’t get enough xp. And how am I supposed to do more pulls with no gem income?
wispy cosmos
@silent wraith for levels like those, if I can’t kill niru before someone on my team dies then I just save him for last, but my progression was tied to Thane and not Shemira.
silent wraith
I always have to kill niru first
still perch
Looking for suggestions on 11-40
wispy cosmos
This is the team I run. All I need is to weaken everyone and thane can kill them all. I try to focus on Spawners like grez when I can
still perch
Was that a tip for me? Are you saying I should swap Estri&Luci for Thane & Brutus?
faint quest
This a decent team:/
pale rover
@still perch Having Arden would help. I think the problem with that is those LB+Wilders mean not enough damage, too much healing.
Estrilda Grezhul
Silvina, Lucius (shield and heal)/Saveas (dps), Arden/Tasi (both crowd control)
No team bonus
still perch
When I go no bonus I seem to get insta sheredded
final star
Been on 11-36 for 1 week now, am I just under-leveled?
pale rover
@faint quest Have you tried Estrilda at the back instead of Belinda for extra cc? That's a tricky stage. You can only use a mix or pure teams of Mauler and/or Graveborn.
abstract shuttle
@final star stuck there as well. Mostly think it's due to under level no mythics and not 161
forest ember
What would be a good team comp
wary flame
need help thanks
pale rover
@forest ember
Lucius Hogan/Estrilda (a bit too soft early on) in front
Fawkes Belinda Saveas at the back
final star
Aero u seem familiar, did u play GC 
@abstract shuttle yea and my gear is pretty underwhelming too, only 2/5 has some sort of legendary gear
pale rover
@wary flame
Brutus top, Grezhul bottom front
Shemira Saveas Arden back
No I didn't play that game.
forest ember
@pale rover So dont use Ezizh? He does give a 30% defense bonus to the team cause of his class
pale rover
@forest ember You can use Ezizh in place of Saveas first, but eventually when you get him to L+ he will overpower and have more utility than Ezizh because Ezizh is hard to ascend.
forest ember
So for now use Ezizh until I get Saveas to L-L+?
pale rover
@forest ember Sure, you can do that if you prefer it. At lower ascensions and levels he's a bit too soft to put in front, though. This advice is for early game only, late game Saveas isn't used anymore and Ezizh gets much better.
pale kettle
Need like 1 copy of any to do anything
pale rover
@pale kettle I'm not sure if you're asking a question or making a statement.. but Ascension goes to #classic-questions
pale kettle
Thanks, was just looking for a general opinion of which should be ascended
forest ember
@pale rover Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.
sand rune
Hey y’all, I’m stuck on 8-32. Any strats for my lineup that will help with this and 8-36 when I get there? Thanks!
Golus has a million HP and gets continuously healed by effin’ Niru.
still oar
Tank ogi. Flank from above @sand rune
sand rune
I don’t have an Ogi... :/
pale rover
@sand rune Please include your hero list in your post.
faint quest
Golus can go commit "you are either brave or stupid to face me"
quartz scaffold
any suggestions for this stage 6-4 pls
sand rune
My hero list.
faint quest
Dang I'm stuck here for now
spring trench
can someone teach me a bit about belinda? i just got her and don't know much
pale kettle
Hopefully this is good line up
faint quest
Switch belindas and nemora's placement
pale kettle
Okay switch them around
faint quest
Yep
sand rune
My current wall against 8-32. Any advice much appreciated.
exotic kettle
Help. No matter what lineup i use that ira just one shots my backline. Even athalia cant cc her enough to stop her.
wise merlin
@exotic kettle How well does Arden cc work in a case like this?
open mural
@exotic kettle shem top front lyca tasi arden nem?
pale kettle
@faint quest appreciate it, almost had it too gonna try again 😊
dry seal
I need some help figuring out a good team comp with what I have. All graveborn doesn't really cut it at my level...
open mural
Hmm maybe try bottom right and put nem bot arden middle and hope she charms ira, just retry until it works. I beat that with Brutus but seeing as you don't have him I think lyca haste should be better with tasi top back
velvet linden
Hey guys, as a general note, should I exchange Saev with Thane? I'm at 9-20 and Saev just does not seem to be doing the trick
pale kettle
Help!
wise merlin
@velvet linden Hello. ^^
Please send your formation vs theirs and your hero roster. 😋
@pale kettle Friend, there's a basic thing you need to do...~
You are currently hard capped 120 due to Athalia, while you have 3 Ls in Crystal 😶
Pretty unwise, you should replace One of the L tiers with Athalia and level them to 140 instead.
Later on, having Athalia in Crystal will grant her level 140, instead of her capped 120
velvet linden
There you go. I am aware my heroes are underleveled and am working on it, but should I retire Saev so I can replace him with Thane?
wise merlin
@velvet linden Absolutely not. Maulers have faction advantage over Wilders, if anything, I would put Lucius in the Frontline, and either Belinda or Nemora on the middle backline.
New formation should look like so;
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora / Belinda
Ulmus
Saveas
velvet linden
Thank you very much!
wise merlin
I wish you best of luck, friend
pale rover
@sand rune
Eironn top Brutus bottom front
Arden Saveas Khasos/Lyca (haste for Arden's roots) at the back
marble spear
I could use some help/suggestions, this is from a little while ago, I hit acct level 60 and got a Thane so he's E+ and I have an open slot in my Res Crystal. Pls @ me so get the notification
wise merlin
@marble spear Swap Safia with Lyca. See if it helps!
Brutus should be up against Vedan, and Estrilda vs Niru, to prevent his first ability.
Swap Saveas' and Raine's positions.
Additionally, remove Raine from the Resonating Crystal and reset Belinda, level up Raine instead.
If you'd like to know why, ping me again ^^
marble spear
I know why, for the leveling cap, ty I'll try what you suggested ty
wise merlin
Best of luck! ^^
vocal roost
I can’t beat this level any help with a better comp or am I just underlevelled/gear? And any champs I should be working for? Have 3 spots in crystal still
2 spots*
wise merlin
@vocal roost Hello friend. ^^
Place Estrilda in the matchup, put her against Golus, and Grezhul up against Brutus.
If you'll time Grezhul's ult perfectly, Brutus will spin in the wrong direction, saving your Nemora and Shemira.
Place Athalia instead of Ferael, her cc is better and you don't need the energy reduction. ^^
Offered formation :
Athalia
Estrilda
Shemira
Grezhul
Nemora
true coral
Any recommendations for ascension?
wise merlin
@true coral Wait for another Wilder E+ fodder, and Ascend Tasi using Arden and another L+ tier capped hero ^^
Actually you can use Ogi. Sorry, didn't notice it
pale kettle
@☆ Nicky so what I should do with my heroes? Who should I reset and put in cristal etc?
I like the 5 lightbearses comp btw, that's why I use Athalia
wise merlin
@pale kettleRemove Fawkes, and Athalia, place Saveas and Silvina in their place. Best bet you're on your way to 160 level cap ^^
Read the last 2 paragraphs ^^
pale kettle
But they do a good combo with Fawkes vanish
wise merlin
Put Fawkes and Athalia back in the Crystal and their level will increase to 160, once you'll have a full L+ 5 main... By now, Athalia is not beneficial and blocks your Crystalized heroes' level cap from reaching 140, you're stuck at 120 solely because of her.
However! Using her in the Crystal will increase her level above 120, regardless of what Ascension tier she is
pale kettle
Oke
wise merlin
The Resonating Crystal is a complicated topic, I'm highly considering to make a guide of it... @pale rover
swift yoke
And get yourself wilders, as MUCH as you can. Ty
wise merlin
@swift yoke Lmao!
swift yoke
Don't mind me, just here to market my wilders
still oar
🤣 @swift yoke
high iron
For a few ones since I posted still struggling to find a good lineup any suggestions will be grateful thanks
pale kettle
@wise merlin This is the currently situation, I get oneshotted :(
swift yoke
@high iron try this Lyca, Arden, Seveas, Khasos and Brutus. Should be a very good lineup, Lyca has a haste ability, and Arden has a root ability
marble spear
I forgot to mention I only have 2 sets of gear, such as 2 of each Light, Heavy, and Mage. So Lyca currently is a little bare. Is there one of my mages I could try swapping for Lyca/Raine or am I beyond hope lol
high iron
@swift yoke all the same level.
swift yoke
Lyca is usually used for her Haste ability, which would allow your team to gain an extra boost of damage. What you are missing here is a Union Buff, switch one of the lights with a Mauler, or a Mauler with a light
marble spear
How about I try Safiya replace Raine, and give Lyca Raine's gear? Then I have full gear and a 3 Mauler buff?
wise merlin
@pale kettle You don't have to use the 5 main heroes in your formation, swap out Silvina for Fawkes, place Fawkes in Belinda's spot, and swap Belinda for Nemora. See if it helps ^^
@swift yoke (See, I'm using Wilders >_>)
swift yoke
You could try that, see how it goes
pale kettle
Still stuck : (
wise merlin
@pale kettle Lucius goes the best against Estrilda, he heals himself immediately after and shields later on, get Golus out of the formation.
Swap Golus with Arden, formation should look like;
Belinda
Lucius
Arden
Estrilda
Shemira
obsidian ember
What should the lineup be
swift yoke
@pale kettle you could try this after trying Nicky lineup (Ghul, Brutus, Khasos, Arden and Tasi) you'll tank with Ghul and Brutus, and the damage will mostly be based on Khasos and Brutus. Arden CC will help you stall the game longer, for Tasi to ult
@wise merlin Finaaaally :(((( we should celebrate
raven tartan
Stuck on 11-28, any suggestion on how to set my lineup?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/587483754474373120/IMG_2209.jpg
pale kettle
I’m so dumb who’s ghul LMAO
wise merlin
@obsidian ember You happen to have 3 tanks, sometimes it works, but the ideal is having 2 tanks / warriors Frontline, 2 DPS and one support backline. Try and make this formation :
Belinda
Hogan
Nemora
Thane
Saveas
@pale kettle Grezhul
pale kettle
Oh thanks djjdnd
@wise merlin With this comp I get os
Neither worked but thank you u are the best
wise merlin
@pale kettle I'll let you know how I passed it when I will ^^
pale rover
@wise merlin There's a guide on reddit called "ascension and you". https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/biqhij/ascension_and_you_a_guide_to_the_temple_of/
high iron
@swift yoke yeah they got smashed that line up is very weak:/
pale kettle
LOL OK THIS WORKS FOR 11-36 smacks my forehead
wise merlin
@pale rover Does it refer to Crystal? :o
swift yoke
@high iron you could try to tank with Arden instead of Khasos, and hide Saveas behind brutus. And Khasos in the middle
pale rover
@pale kettle
How does Estrilda top Brutus/Golus bottom front
Belinda Fawkes/Arden Lucius at the back work out for you?
pale kettle
Oh I just meant I passed the other one with this formation lolol now im stuck on another atm
pale rover
@eternal apex What happened to your guide?☺️
@wise merlin https://www.afkarena.net/resonating-crystal
wise merlin
Thanks 😊 @pale rover
flint crescent
Any suggestions for this? been at this for few days already.
quartz scaffold
can anyone help me this stage 6-4, pls
wise merlin
@quartz scaffold Allow me to redirect you to our pinned messages, the very last pinned one includes a guide solely dedicated for chapter 6 😊
If you need further help, do ping me!
quartz scaffold
@wise merlin yes, thank you
wise merlin
@quartz scaffold As for your current encounter I would place the formation like so:
Ferael
Hogan
Arden
Ezizh
Shemira
There might be no faction bonus other than Hypogean, but it might be what you need to pass!
weak fiber
Any tips 9-38 ignore lineup was trying random shit
upper path
What can I do here?
quartz scaffold
@wise merlin ty, I'll try it
floral swift
Hogan Brutus Shimera Saveas Belinda. I guess
wise merlin
@weak fiber Maulers are your best friend! May you share your hero roster please?
still oar
Khasos Brut
Saveas lyca athalia @upper path
Maybe
torpid stirrup
Belinda or lucius to mythic first?
floral swift
I would go lucius tbh
still oar
What happened @upper path did silvina jump to khasos?
upper path
@still oar yes but everyone dies too fast for saveas to poke isabella
weak fiber
@wise merlin
upper path
I can keep resetting until isabella dies when opponent start to jump
nova jasper
Where do I talk when I'm stuck on a certain level
weak fiber
Here
wise merlin
@weak fiber Okay. ^^
As for your formation, I would only recommend heroes I have used and tried I similiar occasions, it will maybe work for you, maybe not, take that under consideration! ^^
I would try the formation;
Saveas
Hogan
Safia
Brutus
Fawkes
3-2 faction bonus of Maulers & LB and a possibility of winning the game with Fawkes' key ability! Give it several tries!
still oar
I am out of idea actually. I could think of different compositions but they all got wrecked @upper path.
weak fiber
Shouldn't I replace safia with something else cuz she doesn't activate passive and almost insta dies
wise merlin
@weak fiber You can swap her with Lyca, she could work pretty well!
Yeah, it will cancel out your faction bonus though.. worth a shot!
upper path
@still oar then is probably level not enough. you mean there is a afk arena simulator you can test run the game with
nova jasper
I have to wait for more hero exp, I'll try again later, some times I get some crit hits in
upper path
Running current lineup with all the yellows boost highest ✊ damage, idk if I just need belinda to be 161
nova jasper
Kings tower and campaign progress
upper path
I am 1 silvina away from a L+ vedan which once I get 7k more powder, everyone can be 141, does that help the issue of everyone being too low ascension by 50%??
still oar
Maybe better if you make shemira 160 with dura's call or grace @upper path. If she can tank silvina you can survive
nova jasper
How do I get artifacts
still oar
If you can l+ vedan use to m shemira @upper path. 161 shemira will be your carry.
novel flume
So I got no clue what to make as main team
weak fiber
Should I try or wait for other faction?
eternal apex
@pale rover I got super busy with uni and haven't even touched this discord really 😦 exams in 2 weeks so after that it should get done! Might take a break from studying to finish it too...
merry jacinth
Send help pls
wise merlin
@novel flume Generally, you're supposed to put resources onto the highest tier heroes you have currently, not the ones you use the most... If you ask me, I would level ;
Arden (definitely)
Belinda
Saveas
Mirael
And Hogan
And I would place Lyca, Raine, Nemora, Skreg and Brutus in the Crystal
novel flume
Brutus and shem not worth it because they are just elites?
wise merlin
Yes, since Elite+ tiers have a higher level cap, and it will grant both Brutus and Shemira above level 100 (Which is the level cap for Elite)
novel flume
Also should not I try to maximize the whole faction bonus stuff as much as I can?
wise merlin
For more details @novel flume
And yeah, sometimes faction bonus helps but if you'll need a specific cc hero (Like Fawkes) in a team varied by Wilder supports and Graveborn & Mauler Frontline, sometimes it helps turning the table ^^
And in all honesty, both Shemira and Brutus aren't that good in their current tiers.. their true strength shows at tier L+ onwards ^^
novel flume
Okay great , but shouldn't I have 2 frontliners instead of just hogan?
wise merlin
Have you unlocked the Resonating Crystal yet? :x
upper path
@still oar but why would I want everyone to be stuck at 140
novel flume
Yeah I did
wise merlin
You could place another tank (Brutus, as mentioned) in it, and he could act as a 2nd tank
upper path
but if wilders faction 10 pull works well enough I should have enough fodder to make arden L+ so idk it's like things are getting better but it's f**king slow.
still oar
You can have everyone else but shemira at 140 up to chapter 14 @upper path. Shemira is that great
merry jacinth
hot nebula
20-8, any advice
naive orbit
upper path
@still oar does that mean I will be stuck at chapter 14 or no? cuz if shem 161 is going to be better until chapter 15 (meaning I clear 14, then brutus will become red as well.)
spring estuary
Who is better arden or tasi?
merry jacinth
Arden better for story tasi pvp
spring estuary
Should i make arden food?
wise merlin
@spring estuary Tasi sometimes can clutch pve, she's just very RNG reliant. Arden is potentially less RNG than her but still has some RNG with roots and order of ult
still oar
Yes you will @upper path. Keep investing in shemira. 16 20 needs 180+ shemira. If you can mythic Brutus focus on those two. With the support of lyca Arden tasi nemora your team would be great
upper path
problem is arden might become L+ but tasi is e and nemora is e+, lucius is e only. you can always buy copies of nemora but then
still oar
Another focus should be lucius
novel flume
Should I sacrfice'em
spring estuary
What is RNG?
still oar
16 20 with e tasi and e+ lyca @upper path. Bit my Arden l+ . C 15 needs Arden
My nem is mythic
And could be m+
upper path
see how long this game is going to make me wait then.
faint quest
upper path
I am trying to get at least 5 L+ at any point in time so I have space to put exp into idk is this mindset wrong, then again afk exp is more than anything else yet so little that you can't level anything unless you wait for weeks and months
faint quest
Any recommendations? I'm trying to get rid of Ogi, nemora and ira asap
still oar
You are correct @upper path
naive orbit
@upper path i am in lack of fodder now
upper path
@faint quest save up for graveborn fodder and ascend shem?
hoary crest
10-28 help?
faint quest
Tbh prob
still oar
@faint quest
Bru lyca
Tasi shemira nemora
Can you do that
Put call on tasi and grace on shem
still oar
Gz @faint quest
faint quest
I really have the temptation to get tasi to L by foddering ulmus and arden
merry jacinth
Don’t
tawdry cipher
Advice on what lineup to use to beat this level?
merry jacinth
Frontline with shemira and use Arden over hogan
steady sand
Can anyone help me make a lineup. I was using backline: tasi nemora lyca and frontline: khasos saveas. Is there a better line up than this or should I focus on this one?
whole palm
@merry jacinth shemira lucias thorn silvina and grzhel
frigid dagger
@steady sand Ur backlane is strong, but the frontlane is kinda bad, what more heroes do u have?
merry jacinth
@whole palm ?
steady sand
merry jacinth
Why blurry
ivory swan
Suggestions?
quaint spruce
Is this a good lineup for arena of heroes?
whole palm
@merry jacinth yes try switching thorn and lucia and grzhel places if it doesnt work try swaping either grzhel or thoran with arden for more cc
frigid dagger
@steady sand U can try shemira instead of khasos, if saveas can tank enough u can still use him, if he doesnt tank enough try estrilda
Shemira can be weak in early game, then if she can't do a decent job use estrilda instead her
paper roost
whole palm
U have sevass i sugeest using him but try to get him to lvl 160
merry jacinth
@whole palm grezhul gets 2 tapped :[
paper roost
Do I stand a chance
frigid dagger
@quaint spruce For arena better fawkes than Belinda, u gonna have a Lot of cc and always gonna take away two heroes from ur enemy
quaint spruce
Thanks! @frigid dagger
quaint owl
using your best attackers against a tank seems like a waste (like in all games). i would try to kill estrilda and morvus earlier, the rest will be easier
steady sand
Thanks!
paper roost
I can't get past this part
wintry bloom
16-20 i need help
whole palm
@merry jacinth switch with arden
frigid dagger
@quaint spruce Better use fawkes instead nemora, same cc and faction bonus
quaint spruce
@frigid dagger is there a need for nemora when I alr have lucius in stage fights,arena etc.
merry jacinth
This happens if they are switched just as fast
spring trench
out of niru, baden, and thoran who is the best frontline?
still oar
Against Silvina niru
High level thoran
Still don't know about baden
frigid dagger
@merry jacinth Can u make a video of all the fight?
swift yoke
Hello, anyone needs help with his/her lineup?
whole palm
I mean get arden back and switch grzhel for thoran
faint quest
I think I'm fully stuck on this one