Silv out, Saveas in at bottom, Khasos frontline
#lineup-help
rugged marten
prisma meadow
Are talking to me @rugged marten
rugged marten
Yes, forgot to tag, sorry @prisma meadow
dark egret
Heeelp
rugged marten
@dark egret Silv out, Brutus in bottom, Sav backline top, if he can't kill Golus in time, bottom Sav instead
cinder crag
Any ideas?
rugged marten
Brutus and Khasos in, Fawkes and Shem out @cinder crag
cinder crag
I will try but I doubt it will change since they are Elite and elite plus
rugged marten
Brutus doesn't need more than Elite, due to his passive making him immune to all damage, and Khasos is for his passive life leech he grants to Saveas, your carry @cinder crag Shemira needs 161 before she can carry honestly , before then she's average at best
summer iron
cinder crag
Honestly I need more levels I think cuz it is wayy worse than before with Maulers also I disagree that Shem is "average at best " pre 161 she may not be as good as pre 161 but still good
summer iron
I need help for clearing this stage 😂
trim moat
6-12 stuck / should i wait until I upgrade saveas to 101?
rugged marten
@summer iron tasi out, Nem middle to charm Ferael or Ele you won't pass it
@cinder crag that's your opinion but I assure you, the difference in 160 and 161 Shemira is insane
ancient hound
@trim moat always mirael in middle, saveas & estrilda top. You need to kill saveas
cinder crag
@rugged marten I know how strong she becomes after 161 and I didn't say the difference is negligeble I am just saying that Shem is still strong pre 161
trim moat
I tried but estrilda and mirael are dying instantly
ancient hound
@trim moat reset those lvl 70-71-72 and focus on powerspikes at lvl 20/40/60/80 etc. That helped me a lot as well. Probably Khasos or Estrilda 81* will let them live long enough to kill saveas. Also replace Morvus by Khasos for sure
fallow violet
Which tavern token should I pull?
pale rover
@tacit gorge
Kaz Thoran
Shemira Ira/Saveas Arden
tacit gorge
U reckon @pale rover
brittle summit
How should I make my setup for this one? It's in the The Ancient Ruins Peaks of Time.
spring igloo
Any Ideas?
runic tundra
@ancient hound welcome stuck.
oblique stone
Suggestions?
frosty magnet
What level Emperor?
oblique stone
@dark cedar I'd personally say
Grezhul
Hogan
Mirael
Baden
Estrilda
dark cedar
Im stuck at 6-28
uneven glade
Suggestions for 21-4 would be much appreciated.
balmy rover
Link your hero list brother ^^
uneven glade
dark egret
Any ideas?
native oasis
ATM stuck on chapt 6 (full of maulers) any tips on what to do😦
rugged marten
@dark egret Thoran out, Brutus in
dark egret
I lose
pale kettle
how can i pass this one
oblique stone
@native oasis use 3-4 lightbearers and another faction besides wilders
misty surge
@pale kettle you need to go more on the offensive
pale kettle
thx
dark egret
I need help
wise merlin
@dark egret You're a little underlevelled... Try and make it as so your 5 heroes are level 140 at first... Putting up a Mauler vs a Lightbearer isn't the brightest idea, especially at level 130.
Maybe put Nemora instead of Estrilda? If she dies too quickly then could you please show me your hero roster please? ^^
dark egret
@wise merlin nemora fast die, only saveas alive vs 5 enemy
wise merlin
@dark egret Try the formation
Belinda
Lyca
Estrilda
Saveas
Fawkes
tulip elm
Any advice here? I tried using both Lucius and Estrilda but it still doesn’t work. Plus since screen I got level 137 in crystal 😦 and I got 2 empty spots there
wise merlin
@tulip elm Hey there friend ☺
I'd propose you to read this ^^ :
Instead of "Belinda and Khasos", take a look at your heroes' ascension tier and if they're within the Crystal or not.
tulip elm
I already did that yesterday 😉
But still. I can’t find any comp to beat this level :<<
wise merlin
But you still have Arden and Silvina in the Crystal, while they are L+, and Khasos and Isabella are still on your 5 to enhance heroes.... 😳
tulip elm
No no. They are screens from yesterday 😉
wise merlin
Oh. Shaking my head. xD oky that confused me. Alright
tulip elm
I’m just wondering how can I change my teamcomp to beat those fuckers. It’s weird that sometimes fawkes doesn’t catch anyone.
wise merlin
If Nemora doesn't manage to heal, replace her with Arden. Try your best to unlock his level 141 if you haven't ^^
@tulip elm Fawkes doesn't catch anyone because:
- Ira dodges it.
Or:
- Kaz dodges it
tulip elm
I still gonna miss 11k essences 😦
Most of times he catches Saveas :o
And it’s weird because Saveas barely damages ira on first few hits. There is damage, but very very low
terse shard
Hey, any idea on how to beat this?
wise merlin
@terse shard You need 5 L heroes. And quick. Think you could ascend using any of your available resources?
tulip elm
@terse shard id put Belinda for Arden and fawkes for tasi. Belinda on mid, Saveas too
terse shard
got a lot of doubles, but i'm basicaly saving for heroes that are worth it let's say, like i don't have a good replacement for my brutus right now
wise merlin
@terse shardAthalia makes a perfect replacement if matched along with Lightbearer aoe DPS and cc / rooters
terse shard
dafuck i managed first try with igrex ideas haha, didn't think belinda was a strong pick since i never see her even using her ult, she dies too fast
tulip elm
Belinda’s ult it deadly
terse shard
yea, but she never survives long enoug hahha
wind willow
Has anyone created a strong lineup built around Baden ? (Late game 161+)
terse shard
And yea, i have lot of fodder, but mostly waiting for the rights hero to push
any suggestions ?
oblique stone
Get L Baden and L Niru
You can also get L Lyca/Ira/Ogi/Arden.
You can choose between L estrilda or fawkes, but fawkes is better imo.
winter blade
Baden is OP af currently, would definitely recommend. Fawkes has the added bonus of trapping an enemy for 8 seconds. A direct brutus counter
tulip elm
@terse shard this one time she survived long enough
lone tiger
Been stuck for a while need help
winter blade
@lone tiger you're gonna have to AFK that one, wait until you level up. That or swap fawkes with khasos and hope for some good rng
pale kettle
winter blade
@pale kettle swap saevas with tasi, and silvina with raine/estrilda and try the formation 1 Ogi, 2 Estrilda, 3 Tasi, 4 Lucius and 5 Belinda
if you put raine in over estrilda then put belinda in 2 and raine in 5
frank scarab
Why would you put belinda first shes gonna instantly die
winter blade
she won't
frank scarab
But vedan ira?
lament birch
Any tips for the best current lineup?
winter blade
vedan doesn't do much phys damage his special wrecks tho
frank scarab
Why youre using hogan over lucius is a mystery to me
Lucius is amazing
Also, try to get at least the 3 same faction bonus bc thatll hurt considerably
real lintel
My current team is shemira,grezhul,silvina,hogan and mirael. Should i replace someone?
winter blade
belinda will tank anyway, she has too much HP for her position, also agreed, faction bonus for sure but you don't have many replacements
lament birch
@frank scarab because he's gold+ and Lucius only purple, I played a lot with: Hogan/Lucius/mirael/saveas/vedan and could use shemira too
frank scarab
wow theres still a lot i really dunno about this game
winter blade
drop grezhul in over hogan you'll get your bonus and hes a decent tank
ivory tide
What heroes should I be trying to acquire or focus on? I keep trying to post a picture of my heroes but it won’t let me
lament birch
@frank scarab like this:
spring igloo
I stuck, any suggestions?
real lintel
wow just got brutus after i posted that pic
winter blade
@real lintel drop that silvina asap for baden/nara you'll be gold. Also hogan and mirael can't become mythic or above so swap for belinda/lucius when you can
real lintel
should i swap hogan for brutus?
winter blade
@spring igloo try baden, shemira and vedan, with nemora and seirus on the south side
frank scarab
Whats your team again
If it retains faction bonus then fuck ye
winter blade
@frank scarab he won't retain, wouldn't recommend
winter blade
needs more baden
frank scarab
Oh yeah its still early on where brutus isnt quite strong yet
You will get the resonating crystal soon enough so you can just have them all on standby
real lintel
oh yeah i have a ton of vedan btw 😂
winter blade
save elite+ for fodder
frank scarab
Pop brutus in the crystal and you can use either anytime
The crystal lets you share your 5 highest heroes' levels so tbh you only need to level 5 heroes at a time
winter blade
@frank scarab top tip there
craggy relic
Is it smart to overlevel one hero?
winter blade
if its vurk he'll carry for ages until 101
sly viper
i think u SHOULD overlevel one heroe! i did it with Saveas and carried me all over from 5 to 9
spring igloo
@winter blade you mean
Baden
Seirus
Nemora
Vedan
Shemira
lusty nimbus
Any ideas about lineup
winter blade
so long as you keep enough fodder for him to get energy to use specials
@spring igloo yeah, if it's not going well swap nemora around the back row a bit her special means she mind controls the enemy and can stop a fatal enemy special
pale kettle
Hi, if anybody have an idea for a good line up and who i should ascend it would be awesome, thanks ! 😃
fleet bison
Any tips?
winter blade
@fleet bison get that belinda on the resonating crystal and swap for your graveborn hero immediately
fleet bison
cheers
winter blade
not to say graveborn are bad, just your squad could do with belinda atm 😃
pale kettle
@winter blade Hey, do you have any idea for me ? 😄
sly viper
@fleet bison i would overlevel Saveas and also i would use faction bonus, so Lights, 3-4 of them
fleet bison
@sly viper yeah i just chucked belinda in and currently working on saveas. cheers for the help
frank scarab
Advice for the best guildwars teams i can make?
winter blade
@pale kettle your squad is good, keep a good faction bonus. You could use a healer though, perhaps that nemora on your bench with that wilder squad up top. Maybe nemora over arden
ivory swan
Any suggestions?
pale kettle
thanks
spring igloo
@winter blade not working, Saveas and Golus are killing everyone before Nemora charges her ult.
winter blade
@ivory swan swap estrilda for ulmus and swap vedan for arden
tender wraith
(I only just switched to my strongest, but I'm not progressing with them anymore, I can't really figure out what to switch in and out because my strongest don't match up well)
winter blade
@spring igloo swap vedan for lucius in that top slot he might give you time to get nemora's first ult off
pale kettle
SQAP
ivory swan
@winter blade it gets close but Belinda dies to quickly.
winter blade
against silvina, hmm, she attacks the mage with the least hp she should be attacking nem 😦
i'm assuming its silvina wrecking her
ivory swan
She does attack her but Khasos is wrecking her
lusty nimbus
@ivory swan or swap vedan to raine
spring igloo
@winter blade Nemora is using her ult when everyone are died, so I think the last what I can do is wait
ivory swan
Once Silvina jumps on her it's an insta kill
winter blade
swap nemora with belinda, should be belinda v saevas then and lucius might shield
frank scarab
I have an elite+ nemora and recently got an elite shem, should my next lab purchase be n or shem (i use 3 lightbearer 2 mauler so i end up using neither either way, all around the level ranges of 120-140)
lusty nimbus
Shem
winter blade
thing to remember is if you can get it to 5v4, 4v3 and so on RNG will eventually work in your favour
ivory swan
I got it to 2v1 Belinda died to wuickly an it was Ulmus an nem
winter blade
you're close, keep running the system
the AFK information page says that you could have 1000 fights and they'll all have slightly different outcomes. pray to the RNG gods 😄
@frank scarab with your team i'd say nemora, i think she'll help you more atm then shem. Nemora needs the HP upgrades to get more back to her team
pale kettle
Suggestions?
winter blade
@pale kettle i'm super jealous of that tasi ngl; you've got a good squad use that lightbearer/mauler team bonus and you'll be okay. swap tasi and belinda around for lulz
frank scarab
Even if i never get to use nemora at all?
winter blade
you're using arden, nemora and seirus or teirron aren't you?
real nymph
Help please who should i be using
clever lichen
I would say use Brutus hogan frontline and run Belinda saveas and probably raine
dreamy lynx
Help 10-4 please?
tardy mortar
any help 9-20?
tough basin
Any gud
sly viper
you are at 9-20 with 4 legendary already and im also there with a Saveas L 😦
maiden pewter
Any tips for this one? (No, that's not my lineup, I'm just showing everything I have and the enemy team lol)
stiff orchid
Help with 9-28
dreamy lynx
@winter blade Estrilda gets one or two shots by saveas
smoky token
ivory swan
Who would be best for Dura's Eye?
spare fulcrum
Could somebody help me with my heroes? I’m not sure which would be better, and I’m unable to get Nemora yet. I’m getting stuck on the campaign and tower.
maiden pewter
Oh NVM, I just passed that lol
Nemora lucius saveas estridla fawkes
dark tundra
Stucked at 15-36 any recommend line up for this or should I just wait to level up my hero?thanks!
split idol
suggestions?
delicate ether
@drifting bramble ascend baden to l+
drifting bramble
Who do i replace him with? @delicate ether
pale kettle
Need help pls just can’t pass this level
pale kettle
Suggestion for this stage?
drifting bramble
What to do next got alot of ways of upping heros (3 more screenshots behind this)
fleet fulcrum
@drifting bramble you can make baden L+ just use niru as fodder
ember bane
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
fleet fulcrum
@drifting bramble i would save more graveborn fodder and make a L+ niru/vedan/silvina... doesnt matter wich, and make baden myhtic
dark anchor
you saveas might be able to tank their saveas for a bit, your belinda with factional bonus can melt their saveas if she lives long enough. I might try trading out Ezizh for Saveas and Arden for Belinda, and reposition each fight to where Saveas and Belinda live until it's just their Saveas. Shemira/Saveas should also be able to out-dps their Saveas, and Shemira can sit front-line if her gears good and out-heal the damage she takes.
ember bane
@dark anchor i tried putting Shemira and Saveas but they quickly enemy Saveas too strong
@fleet fulcrum any advice for me please ty
drifting bramble
@fleet fulcrum not worth it using any of these to sack right for niru l+
muted stream
Wait for better fodders
drifting bramble
Gotcha i was told never to use any ascend tier to upgrade like ever
craggy relic
What line up should I focus to level on for starters? O:
pale kettle
nanai
fleet fulcrum
@drifting bramble nah, graveborn ascended tier is too good for fodder
@ember bane your linup is fine, i think you need some rng,,, and you are unlucky to not have any L+ heroes so you are capped at 140.. the 141 powerspike is pretty good
sand vapor
Vurk or Numisu? Who do I make legendary? Not to put in my main team, but to have to future ascended tier.
exotic comet
Current lineup is front Saveas/Shemira back tasi/Arden/Nemora. Worked well so far but Ch9 is getting tough. Any suggestions for optimisation?
Looking to get one more gravenorn E+ fodder to L Shemira. Lab store currently has Shemira/Nemora, who should I grab there?
Heard Baden is strong as well. Should I look to include him in the formation and maybe Ferael later?
Also have 100 faction tokens. What faction would be optimal to pick right now? Graveborn to get Shemira or Baden or mauler for another Brutus?
tribal sundial
Can someone help me with this one? I just cant seem to get past it
sand vapor
@exotic comet Graveborn. Try and make another Elite+ so you can get Shem to legendary. Also, dont put shemira in the front until she is 161.
wise merlin
@tribal sundial Hello ^^
Firstly, change your formation entirely to look like this :
Saveas
Thane
Shemira
Brutus
Nemora
You would want to kill Estrilda as soon as you can, so putting all of the DPS on her is optional.
If Nemora dies before she can use her ult, swap her with Raine. If she dies too, then Belinda. For more DPS & accuracy reduction.
sly viper
Finally Nicky is here!
exotic comet
@sand vapor what frontline would you suggest until i can use Shemira?
wise merlin
Hi friends. 😁
sly viper
Is Thane a frontliner? any good Light combo with him?
wise merlin
@sly viper Thane, Lucius Frontline, and Raine backline. Such a massive comp, if all combined together, you max up a Shielded Thane peeling off people with crits under the effect of 25% damage buff for each Crit. 3v5 monsters.
tribal sundial
I'll give it a try @wise merlin !
sly viper
Nice! Thank you 😃
wise merlin
@tribal sundial Best of luck! 
@sly viper You're very welcome ^^ 
exotic comet
@sand vapor drew another Shemira 😅
sand vapor
@exotic comet Use Belinda until you get Shem to legendary. Belinda is way better early game and since shes a whole tier above Shemira at the moment, she'll be better.
My suggested for a lineup would be:
Lucius/Hogan front
Belinda, Tasi, Nemora back
That way you get the 3-2 bonus and have a decent lineup
whatever you do, dont use shemira to feed into your Elite+ shemira. Keep them. That goes for all other ascended tier heroes, like Farael, Baden etc. Only use legendary tier heroes to ascend. So ideally, you want another elite Silvina to get your existing one to E+, then feed Vedan and Silvina to make Shemira legendary
wise merlin
@sand vapor You would need a duplicate to ascend from L to L+ however. Don't forget ^^
sand vapor
yeah that too
exotic comet
@sand vapor yup, but having antoher Shemira would help with L+ is what i thought 😃
sand vapor
Shemira is one of the easy ones though since the labrinth exists. And the Divine Realm peaks of time awards s Shemira too
exotic comet
what about Saveas? He's still a beast, can he be fit in there somehow?
dreamy thorn
sand vapor
He needs good gear and to be levelled above everyone else. then he can start two shotting things
dreamy thorn
Who to level up? And up to what level?
exotic comet
He's doing pretty well twoshotting things so far
dreamy thorn
Badly need an advice ☹
sand vapor
Wait i didnt see he was Legendary+. Use him instead of Shemira at the moment. Then replace one of the wilder supports with a Legendary Shemira. At that point, raw power is better than faction bonus
wise merlin
@dreamy thorn Belinda, Shemira. No doubt.
Later then, Level up Saveas, Arden, and Estrilda.
They're not the strongest, nor the ones you'll play as most likely, but;
They are the heroes that you have available that are more likely to receive duplicates of later on, and ascend them further, to reach a higher Resonating Crystal level cap. ^^
Hope it helped!
sand vapor
So, Lucius - Hogan - Saveas - Shemira - Tasi/Nemora would the lineup (you can but belinda in there instead of the wilder if you choose). Just experiment
wise merlin
@dreamy thorn Once you'll get your levels done I'll advice you further. Promise 😁 
dreamy thorn
@wise merlin all right, I'll level them up now :), tho I'll make Shem and Bel lvl 101 right?
wise merlin
And also, I can't give you a specific level for each, but I can say that none of them may be under level 90 under any circumstance.
If you're lacking resources to level all up above 90 it's okay, but the less done, the better. And yes, level up both your L tiers to 101. ^^
lusty nimbus
Any ideas about lineup? Atm using golus/grezhul front and Belinda,saveas safiya back
dreamy thorn
All right, I'll come back for you :)) thanks
wise merlin
@lusty nimbus Belinda mid-backline. No doubt
Arden top-backline
Saveas top-Frontline
Grezhul bottom-Frontline
Reset Golus and level up Vedan to 120 instead. If you'd like to know why, ping me. ^^
lusty nimbus
wise merlin
@lusty nimbus Focus on levelling up Vedan and Arden to 121: That's where the Resonating Crystal goes absolutely wild.
If you're not able to, then put Saveas in top-Frontline instead of Vedan, and Fawkes at the Bottomt-backline.
dreamy thorn
lusty nimbus
Getting essence is a pain so gotta try fawkes tactic
wise merlin
@dreamy thorn Happy to see that you've passed it! 😁
@dreamy thorn For this one, you're slightly underlevelled. Have some AFK time, do side missions, complete bounties, go for Arena matches, do literally everything you haven't done just yet to grow more on resources.
You'll be able to pass this level once all of your heroes will overpass level; 98
dreamy thorn
Alright, so much thanks @wise merlin! 🤗
wise merlin
Best of luck, dear friend
dreamy thorn
Well, I got a follow-up question, are their positions just right?
deep pelican
Any advice??
wise merlin
@dreamy thorn I would replace Shemira with Arden position wise and Arden with Lucius. ^^
@deep pelican Try placing Raine instead of Lyca. Does she die too early? If so, maybe Isabelle would do better?
craggy relic
deep pelican
The problem with this atm is Shemira gets to low when she pops her out and I’m unsure wat position to put anyone. Also if I swap Lyca for Raine it gets rid of the faction bonus making them more squishy @wise merlin
craggy relic
Any help on what to use as first line up and focus leveling?
lusty nimbus
Thanks Nicky, didn't get through but atleast i know what to do next 😋
wise merlin
@deep pelican Do you have any other wilder to place instead then? in Lyca's place?
@craggy relic I'll help very soon, give me a minute please. ^^
@lusty nimbus I wish you best of luck. 😁
deep pelican
@wise merlin these r my wilders atm
wise merlin
@deep pelican Okay, how about placing Kaz in the formation,making the formation look like this?
Shemira
Brutus
Tasi
Kaz
Raine / Lyca (If still needed Lyca for the haste, you could use her, but it might not be enough DPS. if not, I'd place Belinda for her attack buff. maybe swap her position with Tasi if you choose Belinda.)
@craggy relic Focusing your levelling onto Belinda, Seirus, Estrilda, Fawkes, and Saveas for now. (Considering you'll be able to make him E tier eventually, he's a pretty common pull from the tavern. ^^ )
Additionally, your lineup should look like so :
Belinda / Saveas
Estrilda
Fawkes
Seirus
Saveas / Belinda
The /'s are the dependancy of what Faction you're versing. you wouldn't want to put Saveas up against a faction he's weak against (AKA Lightbearers)
lusty nimbus
@wise merlin should i make arden L+ tho or save for fodder
wise merlin
Using what fodder? :x
lusty nimbus
Just save for later if i get tasi/nemora
wise merlin
Yes, but what fodder will you use to ascend Arden? ^^
lusty nimbus
I have L arden already and elite+ arden
wise merlin
Go for it then! 😁
rocky gyro
don't know what on earth i'm doing but should i replace someone with elite+ vedan? also what kind of a lineup you reckon would be the best for me?
dark cedar
@rocky gyro i would say always lvl up ur dps. For me vedan was nice carry until i got different team :D
leaden pond
hey there! Thinking of changing to all-5 wilders with Saveas, Brutus, Safiya, elephant guy and spider-woman for that 25% bonus. Or is it bad to lose Lucius and Nemora healing for that?
dreamy thorn
Sure thing @wise merlin, thanks again :) I'll come to you once I need help again lol
wise merlin
@dreamy thorn You're more than welcome to ☺
native stump
wise merlin
@native stump Your current top 5 is perfect. ^^ sometimes swap Nemora for Fawkes ^^
craggy relic
@wise merlin thanks :) I still have much to learn
inner gust
pale kettle
hi
inner gust
Suggestions on what I should change if anything
inner gust
Yea but i can't level them up because there all max level and I can't ascended them because I never get the people
pale kettle
whats your lvl?
inner gust
My account lvl is 77
pale kettle
mine is level 60 atm
wispy cosmos
@inner gust have you tried using thane in place of liliana?
pale kettle
@median rune I know you dont have ascends but what about lyca frontline vs estrilda, shemira behind her, lucius same spot and the 2 others arden tasi
any way i could beat my level?
@pale kettle did you post full list of heroes?
median rune
@Shoami I'll try that I only have to wait to put Tasi in the crystal to level her
pale kettle
@median rune you can try with nemora for now then
wispy cosmos
@inner gust you have e+ grez, just lvl him up and crystal estri.
pale kettle
@median rune also if you have fodders for shemira you can just rush her straight to 180 now
sharp heron
anyone know what I should do? I tried using the Nemora as well but it didn't work either
sour plinth
pale kettle
@sharp heron wont ira just do more then athalia?
mighty violet
Who's a good counter for Golus? He's single-handedly decimating my team and I've tried all sorts of combos
pale kettle
@shoami i put my level
open mural
@sour plinth if your shem is geared enough, try moving lyca in place of brutus then nemora in the back for shem + 4 wilders
sharp heron
@pale kettle ironically enough, my Ira dies super quickly and Athalia has gotten me through many levels I've been stuck in
sour plinth
Okok
pale kettle
@sour plinth im pretty sure in this setup you can beat it, just need good rng or a few lvls in brutus
@sharp heron what does she die to in this particular fight?
neat rose
Usually use Saveas, Hogan, Seirus, Tasi, and switch out the last slot between Nemora, Lyca, and Khasos. But I'm assuming I can do better.
sour plinth
Wow i passed thanks
pale kettle
I’m stuck in chapter 9 :’)
sharp heron
@pale kettle ok I tried w Ira in three different matches and all three times she got killed by Ogi
frank scarab
@winter blade oh nah, i use brutus estrilda saveas belinda fawkes
As much as id like to use the wilders i dont have enough space and they screw over my fac bonus
pale kettle
@pale kettle focus on buying shemira from lab, you will get 1 copy of her in peaks of time and for clearing stage 14 i belive, for now just use brutus, hogan, faweks, belinda, arden, later on you will use brutus, shemira, arden, tasi, lyca
chrome lark
https://imgur.com/a/RzkpIl4 I can't seem to beat this stage, any suggestions?
mighty violet
Literally no one on the enemy team touches me before Golus annihilates my entire party. I've tried many characters but no one seems to be able to stand up to him. Is there a specific character to counter him?
open mural
no you kinda just have to outsustain him @mighty violet
@sour plinth that's basically a staple now, shem Brut + wilders, or shem 4 wilders
sour plinth
Stuck d again
tender wraith
What main team should I use? My strongest don't really have a tank so I need to switch D:
rigid dragon
Help! stuck on 11-24!
wispy vine
where do i go from here?
upper path
Am I under leveled?
urban trellis
Stuck, any help?
mint bay
Think i need more levels for this?
tranquil mirage
Nope, your line up too bad, that's all
vague coral
put some tankers in slot 1 & 2 guys
a support + a main dps + a mage will be great to place in back line
sand stream
Do I need to level them up or is it my setup ? I tried to move them around to every position +tried to swap tasi woth nemora and arden and a bunch of other heroes 😅
sharp heron
@pale kettle didnt see the ping, sorry, but Saevas
sly viper
just managed to win 9-20. I'll give my lineup hoping that help somebody here.
Lyca
Saveas
Tasi
Nemora
Arden
ivory swan
Is Kaz a good hero?
wise merlin
@upper path Hello. ^^ Have you received an answer yet? 😋 If not, do ping me, I'll respond back. ^^
@ivory swan Kaz is a really good hero, her dodge ability and passive is really massive against stun heroes like Estrilda or Fawkes for example. ^^
(Not to mention her absurd damage >_>)
@mint bay Think you can level thane up to 161? It's an important milestone for every hero nontheless, and he could work really well with Shemira, and Tasi if the fight goes for too long. ^^
ivory swan
@wise merlin what level does she shine?
wise merlin
@ivory swan 141, and 181 she gets even worse (which means better 😉 )
wispy vine
lone fiber
Just got an epic Brutus, but my two front people (Hogan and Grezhul) both are epic+.. is Brutus still worth using in the front?
wise merlin
@lone fiber Nope. ^^ Not until he's L tier at that.
lone fiber
Ok ty
olive thorn
@mint bay hey mate are u still here
mint bay
Yup
olive thorn
okay, don't listen the player who say that your line up is bad, they are garbage
ivory swan
I'm really liking Ulmus so far he's a decent tank that provides fac bonus
olive thorn
also u can try this placement, since tasi is unplayable at this lvl on E use her at bait
Nemora
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi
Shemira
oups that's your nem Elite
xD
brb
mint bay
Haha yeah nem is elite
mint bay
Alright cool thanks dude, i really wanna start getting those mythic drops
mint bay
I thought you had to beat 12?
mint bay
😂
olive thorn
maybe cause i didn't said chest
when can i drop mythic gear on afk chest
oh
no that's not working
shut harness
Any way that I could possibly beat this stage right now?
olive thorn
🤔
fleet fulcrum
You have no dust to push anyone to 121?
shut harness
i have only 1 legendary so i can't push anyone besides belinda
olive thorn
me stuck 9-20
shut harness
but i only have 1200 or something out of the required 3000 and i was planning on making saveas legendary but I need 2 more spider rares
mint bay
Oops yeah everybody dying really fast lol
@olive thorn i only have 2 mythic gear on shem and brutus right now and they go down pretty fast
mint bay
I knew it wasn't bad anyway these same heroes brought me all this way from the end of ch 14
mental anvil
Can I get some advice on who to ascend?
mint bay
Hell yeah
fleet fulcrum
@olive thorn is 267 max level?
wise merlin
@fleet fulcrum The max level is 365
With enough Ascended tier heroes within the Crystal, you can reach level 365 on all of them.. regardless of their Tier while they're in the Crystal (As in.. they don't have to be Ascended tier in the crystal to work.)
fleet fulcrum
Wow... must be alot of hero essence and exp....
wise merlin
Not really. ^^ as I've been told, for every Ascended tier hero you have in the Crystal, your heroes gradually level up on their own, automatically... that is.. after you have 5 Ascended tier heroes at level 240 as your 5 main.
fleet fulcrum
Ahaaa
Soo you dont use exp then anymore?? They just level up by themselfs once you get to the 240 point with 5 heroes??
wise merlin
Maybe It'll have another use 😶 not entirely sure about that.
fleet fulcrum
Well,,, it will take a very very very long time before i get there
wise merlin
I'm no 🐳 either 😂
fleet fulcrum
Haha same...but im in no rush...
pale kettle
you need to lvlup 5 heroes from 240 to 241 at once
that means you need x5 exp from 240 to 241, x5 money and about 3100 dust for 240 to 241 @wise merlin @fleet fulcrum
wise merlin
@pale kettle Okay that is a cool concept.
fleet fulcrum
Thats quite a grind
pale kettle
thats whats this game about after all :p you need about 600k dust to get all heroes to 240
fleet fulcrum
Yikes... well i still have a long way to go.. at chapter 13 atm.. and i dont have shem nor brutus to carry me through... but am having a good time,,,
pale kettle
you should ALWAYS buy 500 dust on daily shop, at all cost
it will pay off later on, trust me
fleet fulcrum
I always do that. And i buy 500 dust in lab when i see it for 300 crystals aswell
pale kettle
yea ofc, if you can afford it
outer mountain
any tips?
fleet fulcrum
Im already noticing it getting harder and harder... atleast ive not come to a point where im just accumulating exp
pale kettle
@outer mountain I dont see much to do here, maybe if you got saveas to 141 and overlvled him, swapped for belinda and swapped either lyca/arden for faweks or swapped estrilda for some wilder like kaz or even a damn ulmus :p
idle girder
So question regarding stage 13-24.is it ok for me to upgrade Brutus to mythic or is saveas going to be any good further?
Need 2 shemiras to get her to mythic + to let her carry me but till then can’t see to find a solution
pale kettle
@outer mountain yes I know, either wait for that when you can or... really not much to do here tbh, just afk :p
outer mountain
@pale kettle Yeah thought so too haha, pain in the ass stage
pale kettle
@idle girder faweks for lyca maybe?
hearty seal
This Nemora is killing me. What do I do lol
oblique stone
Stuck on 11-12. Any suggestions or should I just afk
pale kettle
@oblique stone swap lucius and estrilda, does it help at all?
hearty seal
This nemora is killing me. What do I do lol.
oblique stone
lucius just dies before using ult i've tried @pale kettle
pale kettle
@oblique stone use tasi instead of morvus, swap lucius and estrilda anyway and instead of estrilda put ezizh, what about that?
oblique stone
ok ill try
pale kettle
maybe 30% deff will help lucius to ult
idle girder
@pale kettle ok fawkes actually helped alot passed it
oblique stone
@pale kettle was doing good until the ira shredded my entire line
pale kettle
@oblique stone if you got closer maybe just try better rng :p @idle girder glad could help
wise merlin
@hearty seal Hello. ^^
Do you happen to have a Silvina? If yes, could you place her so she would stun Nemora?
Make sure to NOT use Saveas' ultimate action until Nemora has used her charm and it didn't affect your Saveas, it's an absolute massacre.
Place Nemora on the bottom-backline, and Safia on the middle, It'll help keeping her more safe.
Swap out Golus and Place Lucius on the bottom-frontline, and Ezizh on the top-frontline. see if it helps! 😁
If not, you could always switch out Ezizh for Estrilda, she also works quite well 😋
You could always switch out Safia for Fawkes if you feel like Nemora could use some time out and then just rush them with Estrilda & Lucius frontline.
oblique stone
a'ight
earnest minnow
Should I switch from light bearer as I am stuck on 6-12
tropic rampart
im stuck on 9-20, anyone have any suggestions of something i could try to do to clear this stage, or do i just need to pray for good pulls to ascend my units?
@earnest minnow can you send a screenshot of 6-12? i dont remember who you fight there
wise merlin
@tropic rampart Place Estrilda against Vedan, and Lucius against Niru. put Belinda on the top backline and replace Silvina for Lyca, put her in the middle backline, Shemira on the bottom backline. give it a try! ^^
sly viper
@tropic rampart i just passed 9-20 with Lyca-Arden-Nemora-Tasi and Saveas (overleved)
earnest minnow
fading jasper
Lvl up your heroes
pale kettle
@tropic rampart make saveas 121, put him on back, other heroes would be lyca arden serius lucius..or maybe other idea ezizh lucius front, saveas lyca arden
azure kite
I have been beating my head against this one for some time. Any suggestions? I do have one slot open at my crystal
fading jasper
Why are you using elite units?
olive thorn
@fading jasper u bad !!
idle fossil
Level up is the first thing I can think of
fading jasper
@olive thorn
pale kettle
@azure kite use belinda lucius faweks brutus lyca/nemora
olive thorn
me 9-20 me better
hearty seal
I cannot beat namoras healing
azure kite
@pale kettle thx will give that a try
fading jasper
@hearty seal you lack dps , try to get a carry
cloud forge
fleet fulcrum
9-20 hard stage 
hearty seal
@fading jasper did my second picture come through?
pale kettle
@hearty seal i mean lucius just asks to be used instead of golus
cloud forge
Need help for this one pls
wise merlin
Just completely ignore my comment... cool. 😂
idle fossil
Trying to find some new line ups
oblique stone
@cloud forge maybe switch estrilda and lucius unless youve already tried
hearty seal
@pale kettle I know but he wasn’t working. I was just trying to get class advantage
cloud forge
what do I pick instead tho?
pale kettle
@hearty seal honestly you cound try swapping saveas and safiya for belinda and faweks to get bouns along with this lucius swap
olive thorn
safiya is bad bad bad
oblique stone
no switch them around; estrilda on top lucius on bottom
fleet fulcrum
Gey bonus 
cloud forge
ahh, no I tried that already
oblique stone
ah, ok
cloud forge
or are there any stronger lineups in general with my chars?
just went for the lightbringer ones cause I get mostly lightbringer from summons
pale kettle
@cloud forge id use shemira lucius front, and arden, nemora tasi back tbh
idle fossil
My second pic keeps getting rejected, let me try one last time
cloud forge
shemira front actually works?
pale kettle
@cloud forge ofc if you get shemira to m
azure kite
@pale kettle well everything still just dies... gues i have to afk a bit more and farm some levels :D
cloud forge
might be worth a try, don't have any of those at mythic yet tho
pale kettle
@cloud forge i play like that since stage 8 i think
cloud forge
I'd love to have a mythic brutus but I can't get him above elite sadly ^^
olive thorn
@pale kettle u need to bait the silv
pale kettle
lucius for bruts works fine
idle fossil
There we go, trying to find some new line ups
pale kettle
dw I know what to do, just showed the guy heroes i use :p @olive thorn, Ill get shemira to 181 in like an hour
fair sky
pale kettle
nah not really, I usually think of everything myself, more fun this way @olive thorn
olive thorn
sounds good
fair sky
Could someone suggest me a team for 10-22?
I cannot beat it :(
pale kettle
but hey thanks for your idea
candid surge
hearty seal
9-20 too hard
long jay
Can anyone recommend a lineup for 15-40
oblique stone
@hearty seal shemira for ezizh?
pale kettle
@hearty seal getting shemira or saveas to 121 and swapping for arden could help
ruby furnace
9 20 help pls
pale kettle
Stuck on 11-38, any ideas?
late drift
Im stuck on 8-32 help pls
pale kettle
@long jay maybe tasi instead of brutus , for faction bonus?
ruby furnace
@late drift maybe try to swap brutus and saveas and then saveas and belinda so belinda is in front of saveas and saveas killls silvina then they both kill niru
cedar ember
late drift
@ruby furnace belinda just gets wiped way too fast
proud compass
Who should I start focusing now that I’m starting to kind of enter end game? What heroes should I try to go for?
azure kite
@late drift i am stuck on the same level. i just dont have the dps. i sometimes kill one unit and then everything just dies. i am giving up for today and try to afk some levels for tomorrow evening
long jay
@pale kettle problem is I use brutus cause he can't instadie, lucius does that's why I don't use him as a tank
remote thunder
7-24 any tips?
pale kettle
Pls help
valid cargo
Got these, been stuck on 9-20 for a while, not sure which are worth sacrificing to get the ascension onto other units for tbh, any suggestions?
velvet roost
I'm using thoran/vedan Brutus saveas safiya shemira usually, any room for upgrades? I got most of the Wilders recently and have room on resonating crystal aswell. Stage 11-8
frigid veldt
That awkward moment when your carry is a GB. Any suggestions on lineup to try to get past this?
oblique stone
yes
rare plover
any tips @oblique stone ?
ashen schooner
Yes definitely, though at some point you'll want to reset Lucius or Brutus for Silvina + another Legendary or higher unless you ascend them by that point
Your team is solid but I personally don't use Raine
fading needle
rare plover
I am one Angelo away from Lucius legendary and one wilder away from Arden legendary
They are that way so they can be above the cryst level @ashen schooner
Any Line Up suggested?
late drift
@azure kite let me know how that works out for u. I afked for a few days im still getting wiped the same exact way lol
tardy lantern
Usually get very close to beating this level, but the Niru 1shots whoever’s left. Is there any way i can improve on this, this was my best formation so far
ashen schooner
I was going to say do the Silvina instead due to her being L+. Your lineup is good though, maybe switch Raine with Estrilda? @rare plover
pale kettle
@ashen schooner
pale kettle
@zealous iron can you help me
ashen schooner
@pale kettle Oof do you have anything to replace Brutus? Does he almost die instantly?
pale kettle
No
@zealous iron maybe when you get another hero to l+ use estrilda to make your lucuis mythic
zealous iron
Nvm don’t need help anymore
zealous iron
I passed the level
pale kettle
Nice but instead of estrilda to get lucuis mythic use fawkes and switch fawkes for arden then when you can't use arden anymore hopefully you got more lightbearers
oblique stone
@rare plover Get L lucius is the only thing i can say for sure
raven nebula
help please
proud compass
Looking for a general idea going forward what heroes to focus on
ashen schooner
@raven nebula Not Maulers, try Lucius Estrilda, then Lyca Belinda Isabella?
@proud compass What you're doing so far is good, Shemira and the Wilder Trio are mainstream (Lyca, Nemora, Tasi)
valid cargo
hey dreafyborn, i posted a message a bit back up, any suggestions?
raven nebula
should i just wait? cause im dying fast no matter what i do
trail glade
Any improvements I can make? I’m not the biggest fan of this lineup but recently 61 was a good spike, especially for Ogi
short sage
Spduggan what was ur question dude ?
@trail glade first wp for baden really suefull on wrizz use it if you can and i would recommend to up ogi kza silvinia 71 since ur shemira will be blocked 100
trail glade
@short sage thanks, i literally just got him. I’m working on that too. So is the Kaz/Ogi in to stay?
short sage
mmhh ogi is quite ok for tanking and you get the 3 wilder buff and with silvinia the 2 gravborn buff but don't forget than vedan will be actually way better
since u got kaze as oneshot for a cible silvinia isnt necessary if u can get a vendan to elite + and lvl up him 81 it's woul be really cool
Yup defenitly try to get an elite + vedan and then lvl up vedan 81 then ogi then kaz, arden is really strong too if u got him elite + lvl up him 81 right after vedan that's the power spike to reach as fast as possible
trail glade
Should I keep kaz or can I transition to 3 graveborn with E+ Vedan?
celest lichen
So, I'm at a road block. I have a 106 Belinda+, and 100 Estrilda, Baden, Lucius, and Shemira. I'm getting rough pulls from the tavern, so no ascension luck. Any tips on how to progress past 7-36?
short sage
Mmmhh keep kaz ur other graveborn not worth it they will get stuck until they're elite + for the moment ur doing well ! just replace silvinia by vedan and try to get arden elite + ^^
obtuse halo
Help
trail glade
Oh so is Silvina worse than Kaz? Admittedly I have used her as a dodge tank before so it makes sense
celest lichen
short sage
@obtuse halo try this with shemira middle thoran in 2 place tand lucius in the 1st one vedan down and seaveas up
green rover
Alright so thus far I have been using Nemora, Tasi, Saveas (Backline) and Brutus, Ezihih (Frontline). Within the last two days I have been fortunate enough to pull another two Tasi (in additiont to my already Elite+ Tasi). The question becomes if I should get Arden to Legendary/Legendary+ or get Tasi to Legendary/Legendary+. I already have to the food for Tasi L+ now. What do you guys think I should do?
rare plover
@oblique stone waiting on an Angelo xD
@ashen schooner I tried with Estrilda didnt seem to work idk if I should ofcus Vaden or Niru
short sage
@green rover i would go for tasi way more late game than arden in fact it will certainly help u more in the future even is arden good
ashen schooner
@rare plover You have to be careful focusing Vedan as if you don't have enough damage then you're just giving him more energy and then health once he exits his ult. I'd say Niru with your lineup.
@valid cargo I'd reset your Vedan and put it into your Nemora, as she is a higher tier. As for your lineup, Lucius Grezhul frontline, Shemira Belinda Nemora backline. Tell me how that goes and I'll try to think up something else.
celest lichen
Any ideas what I should do?
valid cargo
@ashen schooner my frontline still dies too quickly, i just about get the shemira ult off before dying
rare plover
I tried Estrilda but she died so quick, IDK i feel like without Lucius legendary I am doomed
ashen schooner
You could just be lacking levels, I was stuck there for a week I think 😅 @valid cargo
valid cargo
yh, its been about that long, been trying to work out if i should do something with all these elite+ wilder units I have to maybe ascend someone else but there's no-one else I have that stands out atm
ashen schooner
Not necessarily doomed but much better when ascended, obviously. She just buffs the whole team.
celest lichen
I've hit a point where I'm having to AFK for about 2 days straight just to progress by one stage.
chilly marten
@celest lichen everyone does at one point to be honest. Once I had to wait over a week
celest lichen
Just makes me sad. I went hard for a long time. I'm surprised I even hit 7-36 without legendary heroes. I'm guessing that's my roadblock, though.
silent wraith
im at 14-16 with no mythic, but im at the point now that I need a mythic shemira to progress
hollow current
So after today's reset I should be able to buy and get my shemira to M. Wondering if a level 161 Shemira is stronger than a 160 Saveas.
silent wraith
definitely
hollow current
Ah on that same note does it make sense to remove my faction team bonus(5 wilders etc) just to fit in more damage potential. I don't have enough mage gear sets for that Shemira to use, but could remove my Tasi/Nemora from my team and replace with the saveas who will be lvl 142
mint bay
@olive thorn rngesus finally let me pass with that line up. Thanks again
silent wraith
wat chapter are you on @hollow current
hollow current
Think 13-12
chilly marten
@celest lichen I'm at 14-12 with 2 mystics currently. Stay strong and you'll make it :)
silent wraith
shemira+arden+lyca+tasi/nemora+another tank is all u need to pass ch13
mint bay
I used saveas instead of shem until the end of ch 14
hollow current
That's almost exactly what my team is, but again the problem is I don't have enough mage gear sets. Even the ones currently equiped to my main team are underleveled/low rarity
silent wraith
hmm u shud start to look for mythic mage boots/wepon/hats in lab
what have u been buying with guild coins lol
hollow current
Guild coins are kind of hard to accumulate getting enough to buy a piece of mythic gear usually takes about 2 weeks for me. I have 2 pieces of mythic gear total and I haven't been playing THAT long so my gear is pretty underleveled. Most of my gold goes to buying hero essence as that seems to be a bigger bottleneck than gear acquisition.
olive thorn
@mint bay nice one
halcyon lantern
Stuck on 10-36 need help
pale kettle
Help
urban trellis
Stuck at 11-20 any help pls
sly marsh
Is 20-12 a wall until you can amass the dust needed to get your DPS over level 201? Or does anyone have any ideas for me here?
obtuse halo
rare plover
@ashen schooner prob it means not much to you but you helped me so i feel obliged to tell you, 9-20 is done
noble cedar
Have 2 open spots on resonance. Advice for 9-20?
noble cedar
I run tasi, arden, sav, ulmus and fawkes/numisu/thoran
shy kindle
Need some help figuring out 12-4, any advice?
noble cedar
Can kill like 2 people
rare plover
not gonna lie just did 9-20 and what carried me was Arden RNGesus
steep cape
Which is 9-20 again?
shy kindle
Try saveas up top, might break through easier
noble cedar
He cant kill niru before he gets ult or kills ulmus and full heals
shy kindle
Also use hogan instead of that mauler wizard in front
Try hogan 1, ulmus 2, saveas 3, then Arden and tasi
desert ledge
11-40 this one is really hard any suggestions?
spring sand
Need help beating this Brutus
noble cedar
Can sav facetank the brutus?
oblique stone
you need more lb's and more tanks
tall cedar
Hard to get 2 decent tanks 😪
noble cedar
Hogan boi
tender ravine
I need an adult. Am I just SoL til I can get levels?
oblique stone
use belinda not saveas
tall cedar
Try to have the bonus faction
tender ravine
I have literally no gear for her right now 😬
tall cedar
Golus instead of hogan
tender ravine
I spose I could change hogan for horseyboi, would that be worth losing the legendary?
Welp, alrighty I’ll try that.
tall cedar
Hum hogan may be the only one able to handle brutus
steep cape
I’m telling you. Run a 5 mauler comp @noble cedar you have the heroes and the stat boost should be enough to push you through
lyric remnant
Any tips?
noble cedar
Skreg khasos front or sav? @steep cape
tender ravine
Woof, changing to Golus did a hurt. My biggest problem is Brutus is so squish that he gets nuked before he can even ult
tall cedar
If you guys have some ideas. I trusted in Estrilda but she sucks 😪
oblique stone
@tall cedar Belinda for tasi?
tall cedar
She is my main carry... But I will try to reset her lvl you're right
tender ravine
Spose a general hero overview would help too, if there’s anyone I need to pull out of the shrine or reset one for the other.
Getting frustrated hitting wall after wall, feels like I can get maybe 4 missions done every couple days. My hero pulls have been cheeks.
tall cedar
@tender ravine there is a good tierlist in #550491326479728650
tender ravine
Been using the one on afkarena.net but I’ll check in there too, ty
noble cedar
Shouldn't really hit any walls that take more than a day or two to clear til like chapter 8 or 9
Just rerun the level until you hit a few crits, make sure to optimise every lineup for faction bonus and faction damage.
tall cedar
Around 11-20 I have been stucked for 2 weeks
olive thorn
@sly marsh u still here ?
Tasi
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Lyca
u can try something like this. u can reset if ferael isn't charm
deft nebula
Hi, who should I focus on leveling?
I'll be getting the Elite Belinda+ soon. Who do I replace her with?
raw oak
@deft nebula you could focus on any 5 highest ascended heroes since you're early in the game
The rest will level up with resonating crystal, you could start focusing after several summons later
But saveas always worth to be focused on until 160 and he's easy to ascend
deft nebula
@raw oak It said I can't level up Saveas anymore because the other people in the crystal are not lv 80 yet
sly marsh
@olive thorn Yeah i did find where you suggested that a while back, tried it for many hours. Either i've been unlucky or i just have to wait until i come up with 40k dust. Thanks for the suggestion 😃
steep cape
Yes I’d run skreg chaos or skreg athalia @noble cedar
raw oak
Yup, after several summon, you will have enough fodders for ascending saveas
olive thorn
okay @sly marsh let's try another thing
deft nebula
Which champions should I use in my party just in general?
Arden isn't doing much and I'm not sure about the Morvus
Should I add in Shemira or Belinda instead?
olive thorn
kick off nem and play arden
raw oak
After you get belinda
Brutus lucius nemora belinda saveas
Arden is useful when you get him to lvl 141
deft nebula
@raw oak Ok, thanks! Will that last me a long time?
I'm having some difficulty even leveling up my champs to lv 80 lol
raw oak
If you manage to ascend them, they will
Its the early game 1st wall, eventually it will get easier for a moment until you hit the next wall
sly marsh
@olive thorn will try it for a while
So far everyone dies very quickly at some point soon after the roots fade. This is a brutal level.
noble cedar
Gunguy is ulow tier strength
Generally you want to level up your highest ascention tier people. Carry --> tank --> others. Supports can usually go in the res crystal
steep cape
I’ve tried every combo I can think of. Am I just under leveled ?
noble cedar
Estrilda is pretty weak, fine with your all lightbringer squad but not really that strong overall. Good that she's elite plus. Fawkes could go in crystal, lyca crystal, brutus you should overlevel, etc.
gleaming wolf
Do I need to level up, yet, or is this doable with my units as they are right now?
forest ember
Is this a good base build for now?
weak fiber
Change out the fish guy for vedan for faction bonus
Any tips? I killed everyone and then saveas vs nemora left and I can't kill her
fading gull
@weak fiber
How much survival does all of these units have could you reason to keep them all at 100 and saveaus at 140?
narrow warren
Saveas
Brutus
Fawkes
Hogan
Belinda
fading gull
And also that raine is far more valuable on your team than the Vedan
noble cradle
Hey, Ive been stuck on this level for some time, is there anything I can do? Please help me, I need help with this one.
weak fiber
@narrow warren this worked cheers bro
narrow warren
@weak fiber I like to keep saveas behind brutus, and line them up on the side with their DD so squishiest die first, putting belinda draws the assasins down away from your main carries
mint bay
Should i make thane mythic+ or get belinda from l+ to m+ since i can make her ascended 1 star?
hardy fog
Here we are stuck again.. 11-8 what to do. Also just made lyca e+ (can make L but need to feed Kaz) .
gloomy smelt
sour marten
I'm at 10-6 with a L+Mirael, L Silvina, L Fawkes, L Brutus and E Lucius.
Tips?
hardy fog
@gloomy smelt Saveas,nemora,arden,lyca,brutus is what I used well I had tasi instead of nemora, but sadly you don't have that option.. However you heroes are way higher level than mine were when I did it.
@sour marten No estrilda or belinda?
sour marten
Both are still at E
hardy fog
@sour marten I would diff use your L+mirael and prob luxius, I would need to see your other heroes first though. A pretty good setup I see for ch 10 was something like Lucius, Estrilda, Belinda, Mirael, raine. I however ran with brutus, saveas, tasi, arden, nemora/lyca.
slate mason
Need help on 11-28 or something around there
gilded fractal
any suggestion?
sour marten
hardy fog
@slate mason I'm at 11-8 I dread the day I see white lighting under heroes.
@gilded fractal Good luck :D
@deft nebula Nemora, arden..........and your pictured POOF'd just like my team does currenly in 11-8
deft nebula
Sorry I posted the wrong photo I'm looking for the right one
Aw you are so cute
pale kettle
@gilded fractalwhat level is that
gloomy smelt
@hardy fog really? No belinda even though shes mythic?
hardy fog
@sour marten I would try mirael, lucius, estrilda,raine, belinda
gilded fractal
@pale kettle 13-4 @hardy fog thanks!
deft nebula
@hardy fog Got the right photo now :P
hardy fog
@gloomy smelt I was just posting a similiar team I used, belinda being mythic is probably better as a carry
slate mason
What stage id that zul?
hardy fog
@deft nebula the first 5 heroes probably your best, if you get a tasi replace her with lucius and thats my setup I used till chapter 11, your still kinda low level though, just keep leveling 😄
Could someone help me a little bit? 11-8
gloomy smelt
Thane, belinda, estrilda, hogan, Lyca @hardy fog ??
hardy fog
hmm, that actually didnt go to badly, killed a few and my hogan didnt have gear on LUL
gloomy smelt
I'd hogan and estrilda at the front, rest at the back, and make sure gear is on 😂
strange lion
Recommended lineup? Im using a full wilders team atm
zealous ingot
How am I doing so far? Is that new guy (I was able to leg him) any decent? Who would I replace with sav once the time comes?
hardy fog
@zealous ingot You use saveas until you can get shemira to 161. I really like the new guy but not sure how good he is mid-late game probably OP
zealous ingot
I read his skills and he sounded pretty great.
If I put the new guy in place of sav later, I'll have a better bonus as well.
hardy fog
I have gotten him in lab past few times and he does good
deft nebula
@hardy fog I just got the Belinda Elite+, as well as Thane Elite, can I replace someone with this?
hardy fog
@deft nebula probably use belinda instead of saveas (since he is only rare)
gloomy smelt
@hardy fog thanks to you and @unique python I beat chapter 9!!
hardy fog
nice
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I DID IT
Now, to sleep like a baby
pale kettle
help me for this stage and do i feed belinda away?
mossy timber
I need help with a good counter to someone else's lineup
Specifically their first one
noble cradle
Ive been stuck on this one, can I please get help?
pale kettle
anyone can help me?☝
daring knot
Am I at the point where I can drop saveus?
slate mason
@noble cradle ira arden tasi backline estrilda lucius front line, 101 ira and lucius and maybe estrilda next
@daring knot yes get rid of saveas and make shemira your highest level hero instead of brutus imo
daring knot
Even though I can mystic+ brutus and not shem atm? Unless I fodder isabella
slate mason
Dont you need another brutus to mythic+ him? Imo yes still
daring knot
Need to sac saveus into brutus for m+ and ok
I could fodder 1 Isabella and m+ shem. Since I have quite a few copies of her
gloomy smelt
Now that its stage 10 I'm in a bit of a bind. Any tips?
slate mason
@gloomy smelt drop your heroes to 120 and level saveas to 160, then any leftover exp/ dust prioritize belinda nemora arden lyca
slate mason
Mostly just figure out who saveas needs to burst down first tbh. Too bad u dont have a fawkes to slip in here and there
This is me somewhere around 11-20
old egret
Best lineup for Wrizz and Soren?
ashen hound
slate mason
Anyone have tips for 12-32?
earnest vector
I've been told this was the place to go. What do the people lurking here think, and is there anything I should improve on/prioritize?
ashen hound
Anyway I can win this?
gloomy smelt
@slate mason 120 or 121? To get lyca and arden to 121 I would need to put them on the resonating crystal and level up my golds
pale kettle
kind of stuck at 10-36.. any possible help?
slate mason
@ashen hound make all non saveas heroes 101 and make saveas 140 (i think u can make him 140 with 100+ team)
ashen hound
Okay. So I just need to play the waiting game for XP
slate mason
@gloomy smelt yeah ull just have to resonate to 121, 120 wont be an issue but 121 would obvi be better. The main thing is to pump saveas to the max cuz hes broken af till mythic tiers lol
gloomy smelt
@slate mason fair enough haha, and since hes already leg+ all I have to do is get to the 160 and I'm all g
slate mason
@pale kettle same thing I told the others, drop some heroes to 121 and get saveas up to 160, i promise ull do alot better. Also do you have any decent frontline tanks besides estrilda?
pale kettle
uhh I can get thane to legendary but uhh nope lol, if I used fawkes as fodder I could mythic estrilda tho I don't think that's a good idea since I just need one more blue+
slate mason
Yeah no dont fodder any of the ascended heroes, especially lightbringers cuz like none of them are bad
gloomy smelt
@pale kettle you could buy your daily pack and get a blue+
slate mason
This chat channel really just needs to be renamed "Level saveas 40 levels above your other heroes cuz he too damn good!"
Not that it would help the higher level players, but most questions here are from people below stage 12
pale kettle
i don't know what daily pack and I can't buy one anyway 😅 im really so close to estrilda mythic and shemira mythic too 
4k tokens and one more blue+ lightbearer
daring knot
If I drop saveus to m+ brutus. And run lucius, brutus, shem, who should I back them up with?
gloomy smelt
Either belinda and Lyca or arden and lyca @daring knot
daring knot
tasi not that good til i L+ her? or just offer too little compared to trip root
dry rivet
Whats the optimal lineup to kill wrizz in lab?=)
slate mason
@gloomy smelt saveas for lyfe lol
dense leaf
Hi,should I ascend Shimera by Silvana and Vedan? For now my main team is Lucious Shimera Belinda Nara and Silvana. Im stuck at 9-20.
daring knot
if you get rid of Silvana, who else do you have to replace with? Cutting 1 person from your main team, to advance one may or may not pay off
dense leaf
This all my heroes. Is there any recommend to replace Silvana? @daring knot
daring knot
Saveus with a good team, can carry you to ch14
dense leaf
If I replace with Saveus I will not have faction bonus.
daring knot
i got to ch14 with shem,arden,lucius,brutus,arden no bonus
dense leaf
ohh
daring knot
Overleveling, and getting decent gear will counter it
dense leaf
but Saveus need to 141 right?
fervent coyote
no any level is fine, faction bonus isn't as important as having good heroes
noble cedar
@steep cape
Cleared 9-20, had ulmus root niru, sav crit 3 times in a row instagibbing him. Tasi cced isabella the entire fight. Sav opened up on nemora, ulmus ulted and started dpsing hard. Tasi ulted, safiya blew up their whole team. Insane
outer mountain
any tips?
steep cape
@noble cedar yea satfiya attack boost makes all the difference! Happy you cleared it, congrats
teal glade
I'm able to just burst vedan before he ults, then shemira dies to arrow girl, then scythe boy cleans up from there. I have the ability to 121 nemora or lucius (lucius is able to ult but nemora not really ) and i'd rather not have to wait to 141 shemira to clear.
wary flame
need help pls
ashen schooner
I’d prioritize leveling Lucius up. @teal glade
muted stream
@teal glade if nem cant ult or charm just trade her out for arden
ashen schooner
Try using Tasi instead of Grezhul for the sleep. @wary flame
pale kettle
Chose to fight Athalia in hard mode. And I can’t die and move on? So guess I’m just screwed lol
visual canopy
Can I get assistance in which lineup would be better
teal glade
Managed to figure it out! Winning lneup with rng to avoid shemira charm. @muted stream the reason i kept nwm even though she couldnt ult was because her heal was allowing lucius to ult. Skregg tanking made a huge difference. He lasted ages. And khasos gave me the faction bonus for some hp and dmg and a reliable way to chip vedan super low then ult out to the backline when vedan ulted.
The big key was totally bursting down scythe boy though.
sly prawn
Any suggestions?
steep cape
Any suggestions. I feel like I’ve tried everything. Am I just to underleveled?
@sly prawn try making an aurora somehow might help you? Dunno how crushed you’re getting
placid flax
junior hound
wow thats a lot of good characters you got there
sly prawn
I added belind... and it worked
junior hound
@placid flax I don't know what characters you should use, but Maybe putting Ezith, Nemora, Kaz, and two other units of your choice is good... I think
outer mountain
11-20 down clap
molten moat
need enemy line up...
steep crag
So I can win with what I have now?
molten moat
I don't know... i don't know your enemies...
prime vapor
molten moat
@steep crag swap hogan and belinda 
tawdry stump
Ok... Anything else? Should I level my saveas only?
molten moat
@tawdry stump not sure. im not a fan of overlevel
steep crag
@molten moat I swapped buts still lost
prime vapor
Any advice?
molten moat
@prime vapor the only advice i can give is formation buff, with arden.
I feel like I'm not good at this... lol
prime vapor
Yo wtf kaz I switched saveas with belinda and won
steep crag
I lost😂
pale rover
@quartz scaffold What does 5-16 look like?
muted stream
Shem cant front because of farael. Any suggestions?
open mural
You need to put shem bottom front and then have nemora back middle and pray she charms Ferael, otherwise restart @muted stream
quartz scaffold
@pale rover here it is
muted stream
I thought she couldn't charm backline? @open mural
pale rover
@muted stream She can. Keep retrying until she charms Ferael.
open mural
It's slim chance but she can, arden behind shem, and then Brutus front lyca top
muted stream
Ok will try so shem still front?
open mural
Yes bottom front
muted stream
Wait there's a silv
pale rover
@quartz scaffold Golus Seirus (put in the lane opposite the enemy Golus, like the other lane not in front of him) in front
Arden Ira Khasos back.
muted stream
She always turns back and charms the shielded silv
2 more level then my shem is capped. Seems like im going to be stuck here for awhile
muted stream
You shouldn't have overlevel like that @hollow nexus
open mural
@muted stream I did it with even weaker heroes, I believe in you, you can do it
muted stream
Which stage are you on now? @open mural
open mural
18-32
hollow nexus
I see. I dont mind reseting my team, but how should I go about that?
open mural
@muted stream use tasi as silvina bait and drop lyca in front for Brutus maybe
uneven parcel
I used this 2 formations kasos baits cocoon but i still die 15 sec after
quartz scaffold
@pale rover thank you!! I'll try it
proud pelican
Anyone can advise me for line up ?
pale rover
@opal forge
Thoran Lucius (shield/heal)/Estrilda (extra cc)
Shemira Arden (cc) Isabella (minimum team bonus)/Lyca (haste)/Saveas
@uneven parcel Replace Khasos with Raine or Fawkes. First formation.
@proud pelican
Brutus Hogan
Belinda Tasi/Arden Raine
Brutus Hogan
Saveas Safiya Arden/Tasi
Both with the minimum team bonus.
proud pelican
I stuck here
opal forge
@pale rover so thoran Lucius shemira Arden lyca?
pale rover
@opal forge You can try that first. There's no bonus, but I can only utilize a little Graveborn. I'm not sure about their ascensions, though.
opal forge
Ahh so maybe Isabella instead of lyca then
pale rover
@proud pelican Replace Lyca with Belinda and Nemora with Hogan. You can keep Tasi or replace her with Arden.
proud pelican
@pale rover thanks I will try now
opal forge
Yeah everyone is dying so quick thank you though :/
pale rover
@dreamy thorn Post your team together with the stage in one post. Crop it if the images are too large.
frosty magnet
If you sub Shemira out for a mauler/lightbearer you'll get a +15% faction bonus to hp and def, is worth trying (not sure how well it'll work tho because Shem is good)
heavy mountain
Is ira or saveas better?
pale rover
@heavy mountain #classic-questions
fallow vine
I can’t tell if I’m doing something wrong. My whole squad practically gets one shot and there doesn’t seem to be anything I can do about it. Any help would be great.
pale rover
@fallow vine
Skregg Brutus
Saveas Belinda Fawkes/Arden
3-2 bonus
Skregg Brutus
Saveas Shemira Arden
3-1-1 bonus but those Graveborn won't have an advantage over either Belinda/Fawkes
fading jasper
Dont spam it to every chat you see ,1 in #classic-questions is enough
foggy egret
No? But a guy said saveas heals above 160
pale rover
@foggy egret This is not the place for this. You already asked in #classic-questions
old coyote
graceful jasper
Any help would be appreciated with lineup help in general
pale rover
@old coyote That's not a bad lineup, honestly you did well. Ogi needs to be cced before he can throw, and Saveas behind means he'll get focused down. Swap Hogan and Estrilda's positions if she dies too quickly. If you want a full team bonus, you can also put Raine instead of Saveas (she works great with Belinda) but try it several times with him in the team first.
Alternatively, you can also go for:
Grezhul (top) Hogan (bottom) front
Silvina Raine Belinda (dps)/Fawkes (cc) bottom for the basic 3-1-1 team bonus.
@graceful jasper Your team is good, you badly need levels.
graceful jasper
Thanks @pale rover
tender wraith
9-32 onwards, which second tank should I switch to? Who should I switch out from my mains D:
pale rover
@tender wraith 9-20/9-40 guide pinned in this channel. Should be worth a look and useful. Chapter 9 is Wilder/GB so Wilders would be great, Maulers.
tender wraith
I just want Brutus for a proper maulers :(
upbeat crypt
How’s it looking anything I should change there are at 45 now
pale rover
@upbeat crypt Lucius Thoran in front and Tasi Raine Mirael at the back will get you far. Nice beginner pulls!
icy shell
stark kelp
still trying to lvl and rank up my units for 9-20 but, should I ascend nemora or arden? Hogan is my only okay tank I believe...
rose ember
Hard stuck for 2 days now. Any idea how to get past?
brittle summit
Any suggestions for a setup to use on 10-36?
pale rover
@icy shell
Golus Skregg
Saveas Tasi Belinda
@stark kelp Pinned post has a guide for 9-20. Ascension goes to #classic-questions
@rose ember You have to level. Also place your hero list and the stage you're stuck in, in one post. Crop the images if it's too large.
@brittle summit Your best bet is Graveborn, Mauler, or a combination of the 2 teams.
Thoran Golus
Saveas Silvina/Khasos Arden
crisp thorn
pale rover
@crisp thorn Stage and hero list in one post, crop the images if too large.
crisp thorn
quartz scaffold
hi guys,
any suggestions for this map?
crisp thorn
My bad
wispy vine
is it time to replace leg+ saveas with leg+ shemira? its getting way too hard to beat anything
pale rover
@crisp thorn
Lucius Silvina
Saveas Tasi Isabella/Belinda
foggy egret
Pls help stuck af
pale rover
@quartz scaffold
Hero list and stage always in one post.
@wispy vine Saveas doesn't work in front, just a temporary stopgap if he's overlevelled. If you can 161 Shemira you can place her in his place.
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wispy vine
need a bit more fodder to take past 160 @pale rover so shes no good til then?
foggy egret
@pale rovercan u pls help me with this
pale rover
@foggy egret Read the pinned and the rules, please.
@wispy vine She's okay before 161, but no good in front.
foggy egret
Oh ok sry for disturbance
wispy vine
@pale rover any ideas for lineup with saveas in rear?
foggy egret
But aero do u think my formation is ok? Bc im stuck on here for like 2 days now and im pretty depressed about this stage
pale rover
@wispy vine
Lucius Grezhul
Saveas Tasi/Arden Belinda
ivory tide
Who should I focus on?
pale rover
@foggy egret I won't be able to tell if it's okay or not, because you never included your heroes..
crisp thorn
@pale rover think I just need leveling they crush me every time
quartz scaffold
@pale rover sorry
I'm stucking at 5-24
any suggestions for this heroes list
olive thorn
Stati what a good helper...
foggy egret
@quartz scaffold friend me lemme help u in dms
pale rover
@ivory tide
Brutus Hogan
Saveas Belinda Fawkes
@foggy egret Replace Mirael with Arden. Should work.. move them around until it works out.
@olive thorn 🥖
foggy egret
Ok
pale rover
@quartz scaffold
Hogan Golus front
Arden Khasos Shemira back
foggy egret
Omg thx aero thnk u so much
trim moat
Any thoughts/swaps of a line-up with these heroes I’m at 5-1 not stuck yet just wondering if I can create a better lineup
tranquil garden
Stuck at 12-12, is there any other lineups I can try? Or is this my strongest one and I just need more levels in?
bronze fractal
@trim moat try do arden nemora brutus saveas ulmus.. lo
@tranquil garden try lyca/arden/tasi
instead of the lightbearers
with weakest mage frontline and saveas just behind to bait silvians
trim moat
I noticed ulmus is dying quick at low levels is h better at 61?@bronze fractal
tranquil garden
Ahhh didn't work but thanks 😃 I think I just need to AFK a couple more or to pull stuff to get everyone above 141
fierce kayak
Any advise? 🤔 tired a lot of compo including Graveborns but failed too. I got pass previous chapters in 11 with mostly this line-up or Sav Lucius front, Arden lyca Nemora back. Or sometimes lyca front, Lucius behind her.
pale rover
@foggy egret Very happy you got it! Congratulations.
@trim moat That's an okay lineup but keep in mind that it has no faction bonus. When you get more pulls you can adjust again. Replace Nemora with Arden eventually when Saveas gets a better self heal since Brutus got to 61 already.
astral lodge
Tips please
pale rover
@tranquil garden
Have you tried Estrilda top and Brutus bottom front? You'd like to always avoid putting Brutus in front of Brutus. Otherwise it's levels/ascensions.
bronze fractal
👍
stoic aspen
Stuck at 11-20. Any suggestions are welcome
pale rover
@fierce kayak Elite+ Brutus won't cut it anymore against mythic tier opponents. It's levels and ascensions. Your front needs to be overlevelled as much as possible.
Grezhul Lucius
Shemira Arden Saveas/Silvina (team bonus)
@astral lodge What stage are you in?
@stoic aspen
Lucius Estrilda/Saveas front
Estrilda/Saveas Fawkes Belinda back
astral lodge
It's 11-12 aerostati
pale rover
@astral lodge I don't have each stage memorized, I'll need to see the opponents.
fierce kayak
@pale rover agree. Thanks. Good thing about Brutus is his immue when he dying which helps me as an under leveled tank.
Your suggestion line-up is great for me cos they be my potential L+ line-up mostly.. and I be either ascend Silvina or Hogan to L+ to get my fifth slot on break everyone's skill cap and level.
pale rover
@fierce kayak Pretty sure you can pass it with the addition of Graveborn for those pesky Lightbearer opponents. Good luck, I hope you clear it!
fierce kayak
@stoic aspen Arden 141 helps me a lot in Chap 11. I just keep repeating the fights and when his 3 roots RNG hits the right enemies right time.. I win the game stupidly.
astral lodge
Oh sorry, there, aero
fierce kayak
@pale rover thanks bud, 4ever helpful 
stoic aspen
@fierce kayak I am Extremely close to being able to make L+ arden. Is It worth it? I have 10 factions scrolls waiting for wilder day. Question is, should I make L+ arden or wait for the faction pull in case I might get for example nemora
fading jasper
@astral lodge have you tried someone diiferent instead of golus
pale rover
@astral lodge You can try Saveas in front for that. Golus is a bit too underascended. Otherwise, place him behind Brutus to kill Ogi asap.
Brutus Ogi
Arden Ira (team bonus)/Shemira Saveas
@stoic aspen Worth it. Arden is always important. But ascension goes to #classic-questions
fierce kayak
@stoic aspen L+ Arden sure is worth it. But I do have lyca to boost his roots rate. I not sure how helpful E+ Nemora can help you tho vs Arden but I felt nemora is more important in labs/peak rather than PVE... I not sure.
lusty nimbus
Should i use fawkes over vedan before i get essence to get him 121?
astral lodge
I'll try that @Aerostati
stoic aspen
@fierce kayak the thing is, I could get L nemora by using ardens as fodder
fierce kayak
@stoic aspen then don't. Normally better to get heroes straight to L+. And Arden is actually top tier even tho he is Blue only. After level 161/ chap 14/15.. ppl drop Sav but still use Arden.
dark tundra
To all passed the stage 15-40 can u give the line up use to defeat 15-40 all gv. Thanks
trim moat
Should I reset khasos and focus on Athalia ?
potent lion
Im stuck here, kaz just dodges everything. Im not sure what to change. Any tips?
Maybe i need to go mono wilders or lightbearers and switch up heroes in the resonating crystal
pale rover
@lusty nimbus
Golus top Grezhul bottom front
Saveas Arden Vedan back. No team bonus.
@dark tundra Use Nemora to charm Ferael. Use Wilder/Graveborn/Mauler heroes only.
@trim moat Athalia is much harder to ascend. Wait to put her in the crystal if you want to use her.
@valid path Ascension goes to #classic-questions
dark tundra
How ferael passive aoe works btw?
pale rover
@potent lion Root her with Arden.
dark tundra
Interesting charms can cancel ferael thank you @pale rover
valid path
Thx
potent lion
@pale rover okey i forgot about that, thanks
midnight crag
Any help with the lineup for this stage?
Saveas one shots nemora, tasi, ezizh and lucius
summer locust
Stuck on 7-40, any help
whole bobcat
any tips for 16-20?
trail gulch
Far beyond me hahaha. Any tips for this level?
uneven glade
Suggestions please. Tag me if you have a solution
whole bobcat
wtf double tasi and ulmus
torpid stirrup
Should i do it?
olive thorn
nop
pale kettle
hell na