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Help cant beat 16:40
... you didnt give 6 minutes before you post saying noones answering @craggy bough people hsve lives you know
@fleet basin no problem I hope it helps. Let me know how it goes!
@craggy bough personally, I'd say saveas. Don't consume Brutus, but you'll make a leg+ saveas much easier than Brutus. Brutus can work decently at lower ascensions too because of his last stand skill
Sorry @inland kite a little tired
@craggy bough saveas he can solo carry
It's okay let's just avoid the multiple messages per min. Okay? Dun want any mute happy mods to get ya
@spark tulip am a noob, but personally id try trading lucius for shem and bring in tasi, or something among those lines
Unless shem cant tank then id trade nem or saveas depending if nem always dies before ult, but thats my noob idea
@spark tulip I think people should always use at least three of a single faction. Go to #545929173471068170 and type . formationbuff to learn about em if you don't know already
Yes or no. Idt I should because shes the only graveborm dmg dealer I have and she nukes hard
Ur gonna get tons of silvina, tho levelling grez will be harder
@merry crescent it's a yes when you get level capped, but it can wait for now
And true, what shane said ๐
So just in case it went unnotice, anyone got tips for 16/40 ?
Yea I also have an issue with not enough mythics but a lot of mythical quests keep coming thru. Hate missing those opportunities
@pale trout didn't see a clear answer. I think your squad is struggling because you're doing a shemira solo carry and you're going against 5:0 wilders, which is graveborns weakness. I don't like suggesting resetting units when you'll reset them back right after, but it's pretty natural for a shemira solo carry to struggle there
10-12 anyone see solutions?
Any tips
Ive got tb
Ive got a few more hidden under, what kind of lineup would work you think ?
@pale trout what is the enemy
@hardy fog who else youhave
Shem cant proc(prob cuz she die quick too), the others die real quick
Who else you have @pale trout
Maybe its the faction indeed
Bout to make my saveas L, don't care that I have to use ascended as fodder, as I will be buying packs this week.
@hardy fog who are you using for acsentoon?
@pale trout there is definitely a row or two of heroes you didnโt post
@steep cape saveas x2 and khasos
@pale trout you've gotten really unlucky with ascended tier dupes. You can mythic numisu using golus, but there's no point if you can't get a 5th mythic. I keep staring at your units but don't see a possibility
I just beat, by placing
Nem
Lyca
Shem
Brutus
Tasi
@hardy fog not a huge fan of sacrificing khaos. That being said it doesnโt look like you will be doing a mauler camp so o donโt think it will matter in the long run. Sav will defiantly make a huge improvement at leg to your team
Lol, i got lucky c:
Nice :)
Haaaard stuck on 9-20. Whatever i do it feels like i just get totally gutted. Maybe if lucius lived to shield but Thats about it. Been using lucius hogan front, shem nem belinda back
@teal glade who are your other epic
can you post a screencap of 9-20 with its enemies and your current lineup? I know 9-20 is a common wall but forgot its units
Help please
@teal glade you need to work sav in there for any chance. Think you might be under leveled with required heroes :/
@teal glade if lucius doesn't live to get his shield up, I'm guessing nemora isn't much use either. My first instinct is to replace nemora with raine and hope lucius gets his shield up with the extra hp. if raine gets her ult off, bel and shemira might finish off the line for you
Stuck on 10 28, I think I'm just under leveled, trying to get shemira and saveas up, but any other tips are greatly appreciated
My team gets destroyed by maulers what to do?
@pale kettle you're a tad early for this chat. I'd give https://www.afkarena.net/tips a once over though and go to #545929173471068170 and type .formationbuff
Help with 11-36 please
Any tips
@fading cipher try resetting shemira (for now) and get arden to 141 then get that rng 3 snare on the right people and gg hopefully
@wraith finch we donโt know what youโre facing, but it looks like you need another frontline hero
@scarlet kraken could you help my problem please?
Swizzly that's very true thank you ๐
@pure inlet shemira isnโt really good until you get her to 161 I would reset her to 120 and max out savaes instead.. you will see a big change in damage with savaes. Also swap out shemira for khasos
for the long term, would it be better though?
@pure inlet eventually you will transition to shemira carrying you, but you wonโt be able to 161 her for a while.
Who to legendary first? Thinking about the new guy
@turbid acorn canโt speak on the new guy, havenโt used him, but shemira is godly late game
Probably Shemira yeah
@scarlet kraken okay thank you very much, so if i want to beat the stage just reset shem and build saveas
Any ideas? Stuck on 6-4 for a while now and not sure who would be the best to progress with
@pure inlet if you want to beat chapter ten and most of chapter 11 savaes is probably the way to go. A 160 savaes > 160 shemira in my opinion
Should I reset Lucius now for Shemira to 141? Is Shem 141 tanky enough to tank?
@scarlet kraken yup thank you
Belinda, Saveas, Mirael, Rayne, Hogan/Khasos probably @ancient pulsar
I donโt have Belinda or Rayne though:o
@fierce kayak I donโt think she is. Hopefully u get more maulers to get that brutus up!
@scarlet kraken thanks
Looking for some help. I really want to pass chapter 12 today
Who does silv jump to? @livid plover
I can change the gear to manipulate silv target
Is that savaes frontline vs brutus actually living? Lol
Yeah you need someone who could hold brutus while sav proc his immunity
I'm not really sure who can...
Can Lucius?
And i think you should bump more exp into luc
... Stuck at 13-11 and tower 161 :( pls help
Use fawkes to put someone away maybe?
Why do u have sav at the front for starters
I think I can help Lucius reach 140
You have to focus on tanks
14-11 oops
Why do u have sav at the front aswell wtf
First level up your dps(carry) and then tank after that cc mage
need some help with 9-20, thanks!
I know. But I'm about to reach 140 on everyone so I just put lucius in the crystal quite early
Yeah mabe your a bit underleveled
Should I 180 Brutus or Shemira first for ch14 progression? Both have roughly same gear.
@tepid bisontower 161 is nothing wait till u get to 165
These estrilda hogan comps just stunlock and melt my team. Brutus is immortal sure but he flyin in the air for all 7 seconds of it
need help with 8-36
sorry i posted earlier about 3 hours ago and didnt get a reply, is that because i am underleveled? if so, should i get saveas to lvl 140 before i work on my other units?
180 shemira for sure
So 180 Shem, 141 everything else and pump Brutus with the rest of the exp?
Yup
Yep
I'll give it a shot. Both are mythic weapon and leg+ gear but I think Brutus has 1 leg+ over shem. That make a diff?
180 shem and 160 brutus got me through chap 15
No just 180 shem she will carry for sure. Brutus can carry as well but not as good as shem
@agile cape yeah keep getting savaes going all the way to 160, just level whoever u can infront so savaes can last long enough to get his ultimate off.. use khasos to help your savaes life leech off the enemies!
@tepid bison I agree with the rest of the squad here 180 shem
thank you for the reply. i will put khasos in the crystal then
Can anybody help me? Im stuck for weeks
@wary flame you should send what 8-36 looks like too, we donโt know remember what it looks like
Im on 14-11 aswell the timer runs out for me
need help
I dont think 142 sav will work at this chap @tepid bison
Is this the point where I just feed Saveas to Brutus to red+ him?
I think you should invest in more cc
Try and get raine to leg
i need help with making a second team
Have any wilders? @tepid bison
I have a negative amount of fodder. Tasi Nemora both e+
any tips?
9-24. Any advice on how to stop Silvina from destroying me? (L Belinda not shown)
I switched out Saveas for Athalia and finished it in 20 seconds with no deaths smh I'm an idiot ๐
Just used her to lock down arden and everyone else melted the enemies...
What should i be focusing on? I have no clue on team synergy... Current lineup savaes belinda shemira lyca tasi/nemora
Help with 8-32 Please
@tepid bison nice!
Thanks for the help โค saveas gonna be food soon byebye little speargoat buddy
Im also at 8-32 i forgot to mention
@tepid bison wait dont gw is comming
Yeah after i pull another brutus I'm gonna feed Saveas haha. Only one more to ascend himmmmm. I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the hero who carried me through 4 chapters
He is quite good with wrizz too. Better use a golus or ankhira to ascend brutus
@agile cape easier for others to advise you if you can post your stage as well
My wrizz team is stuck at 10.5mil ๐คท๐ฝ
Could use some help with this. 10-21, have gotten really close but just can't seem to out sustain the saveas.
@fierce kayak i did post everything but it got split into multiple post because the idiot that i am have no idea how to attach 2 photos into 1 post and it got moved up as the chat was active.
For the love of god like i said before move sav to the back and put him across from vedan
Take raine out put nemora in the middle
@muted stream new team managed to get to 165 tower. I guess saveas was my weak point. Ty for the help โค
Np
@humble wave sorry i didnt see your message as i wasnt tagged. so then who should be beside lucius? thane just melts if i put sav at the back. ironically sav has the highest defense now that's why he is up front. he is the last to die in front anyway
Then move him to where lucius is the main focus is getting rid of vedan and nemora
Possibly try using arden instead of thane if sav can tank
Any advice for 12-40? Not sure who to focus on killing first, every enemy seems to be a big problem
@outer terracei always focus vedan because as soon as he ults he kills pretty much the whole backline
thanks @humble wave i will try what you mentioned. i have been approaching the stage wrongly then because i wanted to kill niru first since i thought he gets more powerful as something dies
Thatโs what Iโm trying but Saveas always ends up killing Niru instead
@outer terrace arden instead of Belinda, can buy you the extra seconds to kill vedan
Is there anything I can do to get a better lineup?
Yes use ulmus
@agile cape you have all the good Wilders.. so no worries. You can try 3 Wilders back Sav Lucius front. 3 Wilders might support Sav a little. If Sav still die quickly then move him back. Can try even try lyca front, Lucius behind her. Or Lucius nemora from rest back. Play around with your team position.. Should be able to pass
@fierce kayak thank you, that setup has saved me many times before but now lucius kind of melts so i figured to boost the dps of my team a little. maybe i need some crazy RNG here as the power gap is quite big, i think
@agile cape altho faction scrolls we usually go for Wilders, you might wanna consider light. Cos you have all lights a d getting a 2nd Lucius you will hit a jackpot. 2nd Belinda is nice too altho I rmb you will get her copy later in pve
i used all my faction scrolls on wilders actually to try to get them to elite+ which they all are now. i just need 1 more lucius for leg+.
@agile cape Ya.. with Wilders back.. I keep repeating until rng shines on me. Like Arden root the correct enemies, nemora charm the right one. Lab go for Shem and you can do 3 Wilders back Shem lucius front later on
that was my plan, to get shem to replace sav later. great to know i'm on the right path
@agile cape Ya.. you are heading right path. Just be sure to plan carefully before ascend.. I saw many stuck there. Like they ascend Brutus before Sav..
well i have no brutus so nothing to worry about. planning to get arden to leg+ because he is so useful. and yes i never use "white" heroes as ascension fodder
@agile cape great.. seems like you did a lot of homework too
yeah just that i was stuck at this stage so i figured to ask for some help here. thank you for being so helpful!
Any advice here? Iโm stuck ๐ฆ
14-16 any help?
Help please, is there anyone to swap?
@feral coral Have you tried putting Tasi I the middle?
Hi, I need some help with my line up.
The top 5 Heroes are my main Team but is there any other Hero I should level instead?
And since I have two more Saveas shall I upgrade him to Epic+?
Saveas will carry you until you get over 160+
ok
Is this where we can. Ask people to help with what people we should choose
@ripe isle yes you should get him to rare+ any ascension that requires you to use the exact same hero you should always do, there is no downside to doing it. You should look for units to help support your savaes (i.e. khasos, warek).
That s my current lineup, any tips? Also i can leg Belinda or Thane Who should i go for?
@cerulean cloud yes. @forest shadow you have no cc, use arden instead of raine.. #1 goal is to kill vedan before he goes to bat form
@forest lantern I would L Belinda, as you're not that far into the game Belinda will do better work with her ability upgrades and AoE damage.
Yes, Belinda ends up being useful only for her attack buff at the late-late game and Thane is much better to be invested in by then, but as it's been shown & said you're not that far into the game.
It'd be best to focus Belinda for now ^^
Thx
Take it chill, friend, you've got a long journey waiting

help 
Change thane for lyca
nothing changed๐ฉ
Level up Saveas. I don't think the spider lady or the totem guy are any good.
Thane is a popular character too.
Been stuck on 14-12 for a few days, tried a bunch of variations but ogi destroys anyone except brutus (including lucius) way too fast. Any ideas?
15-40 Any Advice?
Tasi would work too
Tried that, no go. Here's a video of it: https://youtu.be/sFzvnujIzEs
Is Shemira and Brutus that good late game?
I don't have Brutus or the Lady on the bunny deer.
need help
Monster
Try Arden instead of Nemora? More CC?
Luca is clutch
already tried. also tried removing tasi for fawkes, using athalia and so on
yep, not getting lucky with her, and i fucked up with lab tokens ๐
@fair sky pm
Hey guys, Iโm new to the game and was wondering if anyone could tell me a good setup to use with the cards I have
Maybe use silv to focus mirael or the healer guy @pale kettle
She goes for the healer guys
Opps yeah, I forgot she was auto aim. XD. See,im.bad at giving advice.
What are those
Any suggestion?
Lvl up your fawkes and estrilda in stead of your epic +
so i trow away arden lyca?
Reset khasos and lyca
Can I get some tips please?
@regal ridge switch fawkes and belinda then switch ira with shemira
Will try haha
That is 10 28 right o10 32
It's 9-38. I tried switching but I still got wiped out haha
Your pretty much fucked till 6ou get at least 1 l+ to 160
Reset your heros and keep belinda the same then lvl yor heros up to 121 then get belinda to whatever lvl you get @regal ridge
Hmm so it's better for just Belinda to carry at lv160 while the rest sit at 121?
@regal ridge ye
@regal ridge You're stuck at the same stage I'm suck at ๐ณ
9-38 right?
Aiight
@wise merlin yeah
Lol I had no trouble with ch 9 but 10 I wish you look on not getting cancer
All I want is to pass 10-22 to get my mythic items, then I'm going AFK for another whole month >_>
Took me 1 month and 4 days to beat ch 10 good luck TT
^^
Have had this app for 15 days
try to swap shem and lyca, shem can't face tanking an estrilda
Still no dice, I have hit a pay wall where i need to lvl to progress
Di I need to chance something in mine formatio justt play it for 5d so dont have much
Thanks for the tips guys. I managed to power through to 10-19 haha
No more f2p for me lol ๐ผ
80k for vip 12
It works very good in campain but this sucks most of the time in the arena just playing it for 5D so dont have much
Help@me out
need help
Anyone down to help? Feel free to dm
@wild skiff Have you received help yet? If not I'm able to ๐
@wise merlin hey, i'd appreciate ur help, haven't received any so far!
moves into dms
@wise merlin
IF anyone can Help with 8-32 would be great!
more important to spend faction scrolls towards wilders because im closer to full L+ crystal. or to spend in graveborn for shemira food
Stuck at 14-38 my team die in 15 around and I can't kill even one. Any idea?
@scenic knoll You are really underlevelled ๐ณ think you could get Brutus to 200?
Ferael would work really well in a match like this one, preventing It's, Estrilda and Lyca of their ultimates.
Have you tried placing Athalia in? Instead of Arden? Does it work better or worse?
@wise merlin could you guide me perhaps before i blow faction scrolls
I'm stuck on the last battle of chaoter 11. I have no idea what to do. Will post my legends. Thanks in advance!
@wispy vine Of course! In your case, judging by your roster, I'd say you should focus your faction scrolls onto Lightbearers.
Not only that you have the most of those, they are also your current (and most versatile ascended tier heroes) DPS source.
Some would argue that Brutus is worth all the faction scrolls, but as a fact, most Brutus' don't survive through chapter 20 at times... And since your Saveas is L+, he can't go further.
@wise merlin i just want to know where to scroll? go wilders cuz im close with full L+ crystal. or go graveborn for shemira food/copies. i only have shemira L.
okay thanks
@wispy vine The probability of receiving a Shemira using faction scrolls isn't the highest..., It'd be better to keep on buying Shemira's from the labyrinth store and go on a more safe path through ^^
@wise merlin any idea on what i ahould do?
@undone plover I'm currently taking a look at your roster and the formations... Give me some time and I'll come up with a good way to power through this level ^^
Thanks mate
@undone plover Firstly... Get Arden out of the Crystal and in his place put Fawkes in, Arden is L+ so his level cap is 160, increasing the overall level cap of the Crystal once you have 5 L+ heroes..
Ok I'll do thay right now
On that note, try to unlock his level 141 as quick as you could, a 3 man root is no joke the best root available in this game. It will help you a LOT. ^^
As for your Vedan;
Reset Lucius and put Lucius within the Crystal once you'll have a spot, since he's L+ and it'll only benefit you in the future. @undone plover
Kk sounds good
10-36, could really do with some advice. All the heroes you see are the best I can offer right now.
@vernal crescent Think you could swap out Raine for Lyca?
And put Shemira on the top backline and Lyca in the middle backline?
Do you know what my lineup should be for this current fight?
@wise merlin getting closer but not quite there. Estrilda dies almost instantly and Fawkes soon after that
Nvm, it worked after swapping saveas and estrilda. Thanks! :)
@vernal crescent Nice! Best of luck further on ๐
@undone plover As for your lineup... I think that you should place Saveas on the bottom backline and Belinda on the top backline, if Fawkes dies too quick then get Arden to 141 and swap Fawkes for Arden.
Yo. Can anyone help me with this?
@tulip elm How does Fawkes work in a lineup like this? Who does he capture?
If he captures Saveas, you should put him on the top backline.
However, if Kaz, still, put him on the top backline so they would all collapse onto Hogan while your Saveas is slowly attacking.
Have you tried replacing Belinda with Tasi?
You should DEFINITELY remove Silvina, and Arden out of the Crystal, and place Khasos and Isabella in the Crystal.
It'll increase your Crystal's maximum level boost to above 140 due to having 2 L's at the top 5, having 5 L+ will allow your Crystal to upgrade all of your heroe's lvl 141 ability. (Fawkes', Tasi's, Lucius', lvl 141 upgrade is nuts, and can not be underestimated.)
If i were you, I'd definitely reset Isabella and Khasos to get that sweet level 141 ability boost for FREE, for those 10 crystalized heroes.
I am using Khasos and Isabella in crystal ๐ it works great for me. Tomorrow I will have 3rd champion on 141. However I will still need 12k dust for another two. But since Iโm stuck a lot it takes hell lot of time. Iโm buying 500 every day but still itโs slow process.
Let me check who fawkes catches. One sec
Well. He got Saveas. But Hogan died before Saveas was released ๐ฆ
According to this picture, it shows that your Isabella and Khasos are not within the Crystal. Is this an old photo?
Wait. Itโs weird but this is my crystal
Does equipment on heroes in crystal affect those who are ascended by it?
Leveled up by it*
@tulip elm See Silvina and Arden inside your Crystal? Take them out of their slots, reset Isabella and Khasos, and place Isabella and Khasos within the Crystal.
Do it like so :
Reset Isabella > Take Arden out > Level Arden up > Put Isabella in Crystal
Then;
Reset Khasos > Take Silvina out > Level Silvina up > Put Khasos in Crystal
Ah I see. Iโll do it then ๐ช
@tulip elm Equipment doesn't affect. ^^
Still. I will not get level 141 on all of them any time soon ๐ฆ Iโll need like a week or so
@tulip elm But it's now an option. ^^ it's a start. Back at when having Isabella and Khasos in, your level cap for Crystal would be 140. Now it's 160!
Promoted~>
Great to know ๐ thanks!
Is estrilda better than hogan as this point? Or I should stick to hogan atm?
@tulip elm Don't forget that you'll also enjoy the benefits of receiving free ability upgrades for all of your Crystalized heroes!
(Isabella and Khasos will be able to enjoy them too while they couldn't by being levelled up, the benefit of having a higher tier hero is always in favour of being out resources onto~)
Also, some would say Hogan is better, but as you're getting closer to Ascended tier PVE enemies it might be better to focus on Estrilda.
Well. 30k hp and 200 def in favor of hogan. So itโs quite obvious I guess ๐
Estrilda does too easy atm ๐ฆ
@tulip elm Ah I guess you buffed your Hogan out a lot. Hogan it is ^^
@inland kite Place Lyca in the top backline and Mirael in the middle. See if it helps ^^
If not, swap Thane and Thoran's spots in the lineup
Happens ๐
Nah it didnt work, I figured I needed a few levels
I was actually experimenting a bit before I asked, it's alright though level 61 here I come
If so, focus your levels on Thane and Mirael. ^^ @inland kite
I just leveled him up. He is 7 levels higher. I didnโt do anything else
Maybe I should reset hogan. Ascend Belinda and then level up estrilda to 141. What do you think @wise merlin ? ๐
@tulip elm Are you able to Ascend Estrilda to L+?* If not, then don't. Hogan is L+ tier. You should get all of your 5 L+s to 141 to continue and gain a massive advantage and lots of benefits
Hmmm. You are right. So letโs hope for some luck and in 3 more levels I will have 141 champions in tavern in Pilars of time ๐ so it will give me shitload of essence
I canโt win first battle in 6th chapter of pillars :<<<
Hopefully so ๐ Best wishes friend 
Friend me if you want further help, maybe even in dms, I don't mind helping ๐
Thank you! โค๏ธ
Sure thing! โค๏ธ
Lmao. I think I will not finish this chapter before 141 on all 5. Hogan dies in few seconds
141 is indeed a really strong milestone to pass! Hence why I insisted :p
I hate that essence is so hard to get
Oh. Iโm close. I had just 2 to kill now. With some swaps I might be able to make it!
Just arrived at 9-20 - which Team should I focus on? I am 1 Mauler rare+ away from making Saveas Legendary.
@noble cradle Yes. You need more DPS. You have 3 warriors, one of which is more support + healing, maybe use Isabella or Kaz instead of Grezhul (reset if you must)
@river hazelAfter getting Saveas to L, I'd say you should level Belinda, Arden, then Lyca to 120
Alright, thanks. Guess I'll have some work to do before I beat this ๐
Iโve been stuck for days please help :/
Stucked at 6-36 any tips?
@remote thunder stage 6 your frontline needs more lvls than back line, there is also pinned guide for stage 6 that recommends certain heroes and why they are good.
Anyone see better lineup? Saveas rekts my wilders. I have also tried Arden/nemora instead of lyca
11-36 please help?any advice?
Arden instead of saveas
@modest dove you're ~mid game so I would stop using Saveas and substitute in Arden for his rooting ability
I am losing my sight, the person above already said that my bad
Chaos ma boi, help a man
@turbid kraken Serius is a good tank and Nemora isn't very good in the front.
Raine and Belinda is a great combo so you should keep them
Good evening, Iโm beginner what is the best compo for me ?
You can either keep Nemora in the back to last longer or try to keep fawkes to keep the other team's Estrilda at bay @turbid kraken
@quartz crow what heros do you currently have?
Really stuck on this one.
@iron dome vedan is a great carry early game, same goes for saveas. You might want to add them in your lineup
I've tried him, but I've gotten unlucky with leather gear and it's all blue. He dies basically instantly. Should I overlevel him?
@chilly marten @fast sinew oh?sweet iโll try that thanx so much..is there any need to have at least one boots/agility hero in the lineup?and is this (arden swap saveas) so for pvp as well?
I had a legendary vedan, might be different but he would carry me from floor ~114 to ~140
I see, I'm at campaign 186 or something. Floor 90 in tower
Tag me for any advice please thx
@modest dove It isn't necessary to have an agility hero. They are useful when coming across annoying mages or other agility heros. The swap would work in pvp as well. If your Saveas becomes a legendary try to swap them out again until Arden is a higher level.
Chaos Draco. Any advice for me pls?
Really wanting to finish chapter 6 so I can buy purple gear with gold lol
My class started so I'll help you guys out after school
@chilly marten tyvm!
Need some help with 11-28 right now, any advice?
What lineup should I use for this?
What do I do plz?
Need advice
Need help in the lab, that nemora is fully healing and shielding everyone, I just need to take her out but canโt find a solution
Help please ๐ 10-28
i finally beat 15-40!!
@whole bobcat can you share your line mate ?? im strugling a bit ... either doing something wrong or i have to wait for my heroes to lvl up
@pale kettle
exactly this lineup, don't switch lines with each other, it must be this lineup! if you for e.g. switch shemira with lyca, she will die instantly. It takes ton of RNG and luck to beat this stage but after like 30 tries i finally got it
yeah i have to make my guys yp to 160
yea indeed. i thought, that i even have to make my guys 180 for that
@whole bobcat
@crystal dragon bruh saveas upgrade tf out of him haha
This is my line
6-12 what hero should i level from now on?
you need nemora
she will heal your whole squad, otherwise no chance. cause with heal = tasi can use her ultimate twice this fight
Stuck on 9-20, Isabella + vedan just wreck my whole team
@whole bobcat thank you for the advice mate
np!
10-4 help pls
@vivid stag try to use athalia instead of ogi. Place saveas top front and athalia back. brutus bottom front
athalia will interrupt saveas damage output for a brief time
Still unable to beat this stage and need advice to beat it :/
@drowsy marlin Lucius, shemira, arden, lyca and athalia
no team buff?
lyca, arden + athalia (celestial) will be 3 faction hero buff
which should i put in front?
@torpid goblet had same heroes like you: Try this: Replace brutus with lucius and arden with nemora and "play a bit with positioning". Other option is = tasi, lyca, arden, nemora and shemira. this lineup took me to chapter 16 finally
@subtle verge lucius and shemira front. athalia back mid, arden and lyca back top/bottom
Stuck on 16-12. Advice?
level your heroes first to 160 each.
i am on stage 16-12 as well with same lineup. but instead brutus i use lucius (L+) or tasi (L)
Help?
have you athalia?
yeah
@whole bobcat problem is athalia and lucius and are only epic and cannot pass 100
you can put her bottom back to interrupt annoying freeze arrows of bow lady (forgot her name)
who do I take out
@drowsy marlin put them on resonating crystal
Been stuck on 9-20 for three days now... Any ideas on a work around or swap out? I'm okay refunding and switching heroes
@drowsy marlin i have elite heroes on lvl 160 . @next magnet try to replace arden. for brutus you also can take lucius
The kaz destroys me if i do that
nemora and saveas are also good options to use on this stage. this is a bit of trial and error. i tried so many different teams for some of this stages
this stage have mainly wilder heroes, so you could use maulers (faction damage is increased by 25%)
Any help??
16-12 advice? Pretty desperate
i think you just have to lvl your heroes to 160 and ascend them to mythic. at some point in the game, they is no other option left..sadly
@haughty token I'm in the same zone with the same team with almost same levels I can feel your desperations man haha
This is my line up im having a tough time can anyone assit me???
same here @gaunt rover @haughty token also same heroes and same stage xD guess we have to wait.
16-40?
15-40 i need help
ah 15-40 . beat this stage one hour ago.
@gaunt rover @whole bobcat, well lemme know if you guys figure it out lol. Want the freaking mythics in chest lol
@wintry bloom
well i have them all on lvl 160 and shemira 180. i try to use lucius instead of brutus or full wilder support
Did anyone have advice for my lineup question for stage 9-20?
@whole bobcat, am I missing a wy to get experience? How does everyone have more than me?
@haughty token i try it
well i am vip lvl8. i just get mor experience of afk rewards
@wintry bloom, beef up shem to max if it doesn't work. Use her as a carry
@wintry bloom my lineup for 15_40
Which artifact should i give the heroes
@whole bobcat that would do it lol. I'm only 6.
@wintry bloom sword on shem, drape on Brutus, eye on lyca, grace on Arden, horn on nemora
Thx
@wintry bloom currently i have this on my heroes : Nemora = Duras Grace, Tasi = Duras Call, Shemira = Duras Eye, duras blade on brutus
The sword is missing. I try to get this Later but this stage is hard for me.
I can not beat this level. Please help, I have had the most success with this lineup
Start off with swapping Hogan/ulmus and saveas/lyca. Try that and see if you get better results
please help ??
Or throw lyca in the middle with shemira up top
Soo what shall I do
@weak ibex it was worse
Is Shemira still a great hero to help carry front-line?
yes
@weary trellis after 161? And with Wilders CC will be better
I started 6 days ago, I'm only on 6-12 with heroes around 70-81
do i really have to get nitro to upload a single pic ? lul
Only if it's over 4mb
Hey can someone help me? I feel like my GW formations are always too weak and id like to ask someone to help me make new formations
its just a ss of my heros and it says its to big
Yeah exactly file size is too big
Compress it or send a slightly worse qual jpeg i guess
@rugged folio was thinking Belinda,Raine,Lucius,mirael.???...but don't think they are high enough tiers.
@hardy fog which level is that?
oh my bad 10-28
@gaunt rover @haughty token I did it!!! I used this lineup: Nemora (L+) back top, Tasi (L) back mid, Arden (L+) back bottom, Shemira (M) front top, lyca (L) front bottom. Artifacts: Nemora = Duras Grace, Tasi = Duras Call, Arden = Nothing (could use Duras Drape) :D, Shemira = Duras Eye, Lyca = Duras Blade
hello mythic gear afk rewards.
@hardy fog make sure silvina jumps on tasi and try
nem saveas
arden
tasi brutus
how do you do that again with silvina? @rugged folio
@whole bobcat Congrats dude! <3
@hardy fog make sure that tasi got the less defend of ur mages (nem arden taso)
Yeah, I remembered trying to move gear around, might have to have her not wear 2 pieces..EHHH
Anyone have an idea for swap out to beat 9-20? Been stuck for 3 days I'm up for anything
@trail gulch show heroes
@rugged folio Stupid silvina still kills arden after tasi jumps away REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WOOHOO I DID IT
@hardy fog
Ehh, was hoping you had more wilders like tasi, lyca hmm
@trail gulch Sav works better as carry from chap 9 onwards I felt until Shem 161. Need to kill Vedan first I think
Brutus, saveas, nemora, athalia, arden maybe?
@hardy fog did u manage? good to hear
mmm can try that, who should saveas replace?
Yep ๐ thanks @rugged folio Hopefully I can beat this stage before reset. It's wilder day I doubt it tho
Anyone have feedback for me?
@hardy fog good luck
Brb, I'll give it a whirl. Unfortunately I can't get saveas L+ yet
Not sure what you are asking for @native mural
@trail gulch idk maybe?
Saveas
Athalia
Arden
Brutus
Nemora
I don't know what the ideal tanks are or team to be shooting for.
@hardy fog I'll try it at lunch
@native mural depends on stage in a way, but there is a tier list. Estrildia, Golus are good, Ulmus just got a buff (i like him) khasos can actually frontline pretty well too
Im off to work for now, good luck.
@wind pecan Your higher than I am wish you the best ๐
You could have an E+ Athalia too
it's just me or ur enemy team is full lv 1?
This seems far worse lol they destroy me
change arden and use shemire
So I wreck everyone and then their athalia dodges and regens. I think I screwed up with this...
set athalia to jump on nemora, then take off arden and set shemira in front lane (in ath actual spot)
@crisp oracle I'll try this a few times
it should work, in the worst case try setting nemora in shemira's back, cuz maybe nemora will proc charm and save some hits to shemira
What do I do plz?
@trail gulch Sav at L should be good enough to get pass chap 9.
Need help on 15-16
if i leave my guild.. will i lose asll my guild points?
Any tips or ideas? ๐ฆ
Getting slapped up here. Thinking maybe a LB line up might get past?
@vale spoke still doesn't seem to do anything haha. Everyone dies and leaves shemara alone
@elder iron You're pretty underlevelled :x work on levelling up more.
@frigid veldt Swap Estrilda for Thane, place Nemora instead of Lyca, give Thane the first Dura's relic (If that doesn't work, the 3rd)
Place Estrilda instead of Shemira, if she doesn't survive. if she does, place Estrilda instead of Nemora.
Optional lineup on my end :
Arden
Estrilda / Shemira
Nemora
Thane
Tasi
@trail gulch Your heroes' crystal level (and level in general) is relatively low, I would focus on more level ups if I were you, prioritizing Saveas, Athalia, Brutus, then Nemora.
10-32 freaking hard.. I have tried many different Wilder supports
@hardy fog Try and get your Shemira to level 121 as soon as you can.
On that note... put Garen in your top 5 heroes to level up & focus resources onto as he's L+ tier, it's worth it because it increases the level cap of the Resonating Crystal. swap out Tasi for Hogan for now, once Tasi will be L+ you'll be able to use her again, meanwhile, put her at the Crystal.
Once you'll get Shemira to level 121, all of your Crystalized hero will enjoy the benefit of receiving free ability buff of their own, unique to each hero.
After that's done, I would propose this lineup :
Arden
Brutus
Lyca / Belinda (Depending on if you need DPS or haste & some cc)
Tasi
Saveas
@wise merlin should I refund a hero to get saveas to Max level?
@wise merlin Yeah, waiting for 3k essence to have all crystal heroes 121, was hoping to push threw this chapter for the faction scrolls..Doesn't look like its going to happen though Saveas has carried me from 9-28 to now .
@trail gulch Absolutely not. ^^ AFK is the way you should go through this, trying to cheat the system only repays with waiting more for other stuff (For example.. gems, if you waste too much on Arena tickets you'll realize that the next time you'll get a tavern token will be probably next month.. xD )
@trail gulch She's still L+ tier and must be cherished until you'll get a whole 5 Mythic heroes that do not include Raine. trust me, it's really worth it.
@trail gulch If all of your heroes were 110, bet it would work ๐ฎ
Maybe I can beat ancient runes, for the legendary gear?
Whats the best team comp i can be running atm? Im also able to pick an epic soon from the 45k labyrinth coins so which hero should i pick there?
@wise merlin ok, I understand, but what could be a good team for the level?
Am I just stuck for a while? Chapter 10-36. Any changes i should make? This is my main lineup
@elder iron About the same lineup, just with a few minor tweaks :
Saveas
Estrilda
Nemora
Hogan
Arden
If that doesn't work, and Nemora dies before she can ult, place Eironn in the middle instead, and Nemora on the top, getting rid of Saveas that way.
Who's the strongest here to help
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Is it impossible to kill wrizz in the labirinth or am I wrong?
yes, your suppose to to get the loot
wrizz is 50/50 you either get to kill him in 5s or get killed in 5s
i feel like my team can get through this lvl, so im less asking for unit change and more formation setup. i know saveas is good, but i think his single target dps may not be enough, especially with brutus' invincibility. (which hopefully fawkes takes care of)
Always pair lucius with brutus
Lucius I guess tasi fawkes Belinda arden
@gilded fractal why not just, give shemira 160 instead of belinda, swap faweks for nemora and put shemira to front, doesnt work or?, do you have lyca?
Stuck on 6-12.. got advice for formation?
@pale kettle i dont have lyca. and are you sure shemira can frontline without the 161 skill? i find her quite squishy.
@gilded fractal no Im not sure but I play with shemira front since lvl 81 on her sooo :p give her artifact with shield for sure, might not work cuz no lycas haste idk
Screenshot (Jun 5, 2019 10:08:10 AM)
Just curious is I have the best heroes levele up here
can lucius ult before brutus? @gilded fractal if yes maybe you would time it he saves shemira from brutus ult and she regens then? idk if its possbile without seeing so might be bsing you
he can ult before brutus(in my exp if he takes the dmg and his shield gives him i think double energy intake)
any suggestions for PEAK OF TIME vipers marsh ??
@pale kettle hmm gotcha. yeah haha i feel lycas haste would help alot. and yes, but unfortunatly brutus' ult often blends right through it
ohhh do you have arden @gilded fractal ?
Any advice on how to pass this? Or am I just under leveled
@north flower yep, hes in my lineup haha
whats your entire line up?
nvm i see it
use saveas instead of belinda and see if it helps
In general, Is estrilda a decent frontline in this lineup?
for early its fine but as soon as you get lucius use him
estrilda is a weird champ where she doesnt have enough dmg to be a dmg dealer but not enough hp to be a tank (a decent one at least)
oh shit u got the new hero
Hey guys what you think about my line-up? Should I put in shemira in maybe ?
Help on this level? Stuck on 8-12, Vedan is too strong
Iโve been stuck on chapter 13 for a pretty good while, and donโt know what else I can do. Am I stuck until Iโm able to upgrade some heroes to mythic or is there something Iโm missing with a lineup that could help me?
You could try getting some mythic gear for your heroes if you dont have yet @serene sky
especially when its in the labyrinth merchant for 1800 diamonds
Iโve got Shem fully geared and saveas 3/4 mythic.
Been spending most of my gems on getting gear lately, but am wanting to try and get lucky and upgrade Lucius brutus or tasi
Any advice for 15-40? Can't keep Shem and Tasi alive long enough to cast.. Or am I just under leveled?
Help I am stuck here
Amy Help ? Thinking about saveas, but wouldnt know what for
10-36...I think I pushed my team furthest it can go... although 10-32 I only lost one person.....thoughts? Try to beat chapter before reset.
@echo lichen what stage?
Usually I am the one helping people out, but now I could need some help. Iโm desperate for 30 diamonds... (I want to summon lol). Power difference is just 300k add awkward smile here
Thatโs stage 8-28 for Mugen ^^
I'm still in school but wanted to see if anyone could help
Lucius for.toran @solemn crane ? Can he live enough for ulti?
@hardy fog nope no way. Everybody dies after like 7 seconds except shemira. Got her second ult out after a few tries but that didnt help much lol
@echo lichen nvm my idea won't work, was gonna say get saveas to 121 but don't see a way atm. @solemn crane that's where I'm at everyone dies in 5 secs
help :(((
Ok
Helpppp plz :'(
@hexed sonnet maybe try full wilder? or mostly full atleast, with the tree dude, and kaz in front with tasi and lyca in the back with maybe saveas
so, what's second front ?
kaz and ulmuz
ok i'll try, thx ^^
kaz is dodging i believe.. or change her for a strength based mauler if you have one leveled.
@coarse bolt my heroes aren't even close to those lvls you have lol
nope xdd
yeah.. pretty tough level. And @hexed sonnet did you also switch around gear for your try?
im doing now
maybe try lucius in stead of kaz as tank, and put him in the first spot..
but then maybe put kaz or arden in the back instead of saveas, to get the 4+1 bonus
any tricks to this in ancient ruins...they just blow me up and drop everybody
I see in the pinned thing that i should also explain why i advice you to try those heroes, and that's because a lot of the enemies are those undead guys that the wilders are strong against
yes, like that Greytar
oooooohh, i won, amazing, thx ๐
nice.. ๐
To work on Vurk or Khasos, or to wait for another copy of Brutus so I can lvl him up?
@wispy vine maybe take Saveas to backline, and drop either nemora, or tasi for a tank. preferably lightbearer for the 3 of a kind synergy?
Pros and cons on what I should do with my lineup? ๐ฎ
Based on your list, you just started. Keep pulling more heroes and xheck tier lists
yes, and maybe for now, estrilda and hogan frontline, with saveas, belinda and arden backline? 3 lightbearer bonus, with a good early dps dude, and some magical damage and cc
Any advice for 15-40?
Is my top 5 good team? Or is there better combination
what should my lineup be
could someone help me with 10-21? I really want to beat 10-22 today, but I stuck at 10-21
with this lineup I can kill 2-3 monsters sometimes
12-36. Stuck. Any ideas?
any tricks to this fight? i lose most of the team and cant finish ancient ruins with lucious/nemora/tasi dead
Any ideas?
Got some new legs today any lineupsuggestions?
@fair sky swap Brutus and athalia positions, swap athalia for khasos,I think you will win with this
@frosty moss so jealous of that lucius
@wispy vine Don't put your Saveas frontline, try moving Tasi where he is, see if that will help you survive a bit longer.
hi would it be better for me to legend ferael or build legend+ feeder for shemira? atm ferael is putting in more work than saveas and arden..he has cc & dmg..
Iโd build fodder. Shemira is gonna be way better than ferael
^
Ferael is that the dark archer guy? I think hes a good dmg dealer end game no?
Try getting saveas to legend+ too bc when you can get him to 160 heโs a fat power house
Ferael is also a beast in damage though, it would be nicer to have your Shemira though since she does damage to all. And yes, he's the Graveborn archer guy.
@strange lion ferael can be better then shemira but past 240
@pale kettle no shemira carry Feelsbad. Tasi instead of nemora @wispy vine lyca instead of Belinda. Savaes should not be in the front I would put someone else there.
@pale kettle yh i thought so. Btw can someone help me with my lineup i sent the pic above
R u talking about my lineup lmao @scarlet kraken
Same need some help
Oh dreafy is here
I have so much fodder for her that when I get one more shemira I can make her mythic and I think maybe mythic +
@pale kettle yes I am
@scarlet kraken ok I can consistent kill 3 enemies now, so I'll beat that stage within an hour :D
thank you! ๐
Thatโs the plan. Gotta save a bit tho @pale kettle
with new lab and hard mode shoudnt be that bad
thanx for all the advice!!focus shemira it shall be then :))
What can improve
btw when u get heroes to ascended..sometimes they have stars,do u still need copies of them to get these stars?
@ashen hound take savaes out of the crystal and max him out
@spark sleet youโre still early on, best tip is to only level up 5 heroes and use them as your main reset the rest. Retire your green heroes
Can anyone tell me what can I set up as compo ?
@burnt knot pls no more savaes frontline. Put savaes behind brutus, maybe lucius frontline?
@quartz crow looks like you have a nice lightbearer comp. I would rock 3 lightbearers and 2 wilders for now, look for lyca arden or nemora to get that nice wilder set up
Is Wilder compo more interesting than 4 light + 1 shemira ?
ive been stuck for days please help
@raven nebula Replace Lyca with Belinda, and instead of Grezhul, place Lucius, hope for the best with Tasi's RNG, try several times before it doesn't work, if not, I have another idea in mind ^^
Formation should look like this :
Isabella
Thoran
Belinda
Lucius
Tasi
@wise merlin thank you
How can I know the position of my back line ? 3,4,5 is the same isnโt it ?
@fresh vortex
that screen is so usefull wow !!
Lol yeah Coach
Try
Lyca Brutus
Sav khasos Arden
@tame moth
@still oar Lyca frontline? ๐ณ
Rly? that works? :x
Thanks
Giving up on a frontline spot? Lyca is pretty easy to kill.. ;x
I prefer kaz frontline
Absolutely. But she can die since she passes her usefulness. She is there for the haste
What about Thane? Athalia? Arden? :x
If that failed you can try athalia for Arden
Athalia can be used as FL,so is Thane but not Arden. You need Arden to stay alive in general
Well i passed the lvl so thanks
I am shooketh.
Welp.. learned something new xD
What should I do with this team?
lyca front is one of the most usefull strategy
@civic canopy running the first 5 is fine. Its a standard team
Should I level them consecutively? Had someone suggest resetting them all to 60 or w/e and pushing Saveas to 101
That's one way to brute force your way through stuff. Try it out. If it works then wooo
@still oar thanks for the advice! Got me past the stage!
static to stronk
First time in whatever this new lab is idk Iโm confused but really stuck lol
Whoops never tried it @leaden olive. I knew it'd be disaster. I don't think I can help never face overleveled eironn before. Sorry.
No worries at all! Is this a new thing or?
@still oar any suggestions for my squad? should i reroll / boost anything or change something up?
Yes. It's new @leaden olive
Ooh I see okay thank you (:
You are in the right path @civic canopy. Keep make saveas your highest level. You should be fine
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should i boost him ahead, or keep my team relatively close? someone suggested rerolling team and taking saveas to 100
Keep it and focus on saveas for the next level up @civic canopy. Save your gems
May I have some help with this. Iโm convinced Shemira is overrated Iโm stuck at 7-36 can figure out a line up that works
@violet arch shemira starts doing work at 161 that's why. Just level up more really
Okay what 5 should I use ? Prior to this I was using Belinda to carry with a female light team conisting of Athalia, Estrilda, Raine and Mireal
@violet arch I'd switch Grezhul with Estrilda
@muted cairn Belinda isnโt good?
@violet arch Belinda is great, she carried my team for a while and saved Brutus a few times
So Iโm stuck at this stage.
Ferael steals Shemโs energy and both Khasos one shots everyone else... Any idea how to beat it?
Hi @muted cairn
@still oar hi โค you got blue before me cus Ive been working ๐ฆ
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@leaden olive just keep wearing him down till you can kill him, then use a tear, easiest way for when you're low leveled
@torpid goblet underleveled, plus RNG is a factor, try switching Lyca for Estrilda and Arden for Belinda
@muted cairn I forgot to show the other heroes below. The heroes below are Khasos, Saveas, Fawkes, Nemora and Athalia. Any of those you would recommend me to use or just Estrilda and Belinda
Stuck on 11-16, any help would be greatly appreciated
Which should I do? If any?
@torpid goblet i'd recommend the Estrilda and Belinda. Lightbearers are better against Maulers
@muted cairn You are probably right about them being underlevelled. Can't seem to do anything even with those two. If I manage to get 1 more Brutus I could make him Mythic+ and might have a chance
@torpid goblet yeah an Elite Brutus ain't gonna cut it for long, Mythic+ sounds like a great idea if you can get it soon
@muted cairn I have been too unlucky though. VIP 10. Played for around 40 days and have never gotten a Brutus in summons lol xd
yeet ive been stuck here forever
@last shell Lightbearers are gonna help you more against Maulers, switch Farael for Belinda and level her up more
Im stuck on 5-4. my friend told me that one option is to reset every one except 1 and level up that one as much as i can. but i wonder if thats a good idea.
@untold pewter no, i dont think that'd help. Looks like you may need to just go afk for a while and level up more -- I'd recommend using Maulers against Wilders but it looks like you don't have any
@sour coral I'd switch Athalia for Estrilda, current team looks pretty solid though
ok thx @muted cairn
Put Athalia on the bench?
@sour coral ye
Thanks!
Anyone else I should focus on ? Or keep the top 5 and put Athalia on the bench
keep the 5
Stuck on 11-16 any help would be appreciated
@inland kite put some heroes on resonating crystal
@urban trellis 1-Brutus,2-saveas,3-Nemora,4-Lyca,5-Tasi
@urban trellis Arden instead of Tasi actually, i didnโt see him..
Sick that worked, thanks!
@urban trellis Arden is a pve beast all the way until even end game
Which hero should I buy?
Whoever you need most
I switched Athalia for Estrilda lvl 81 and Iโm still getting my ass kicked lol https://m.imgur.com/a/fp77vBg
Guess more levels for shemira... Arden gets oneshot right at beginning so not an option
dark dude instead of kaz? @fallen olive
Dies in couple of seconds, kaz buys more time with dodge magic
wondered if the faction bonus is worth
What stage is that?
Any tips?
fawkes > belinda probably
13-4
What should my team be
in fact fawkes > vedan + then you get faction bonus
Please Help 8-36, Im close But cant make it
@weak fiber try saveas at front top and replace hogan with fawkes
@fallen olive I did that stage with that exact setup, maybe try getting some better gear or pray for Kaz rng
@open mural my shems only in plain legendaries as just switched from saveas, but got decently close with good luck couple times
So what should my lineup be? I'm sorry I'm condused
@weak fiber try saveas brutus front fawkes hogan belinda back
Who who be a good buy from the SLab shop?
nemora if you are pre chapter 8 with no nemora, or else shemira
Boys any Help?
you don't need any help, you barely have a choice to make haha just play the game bro
@obsidian ember saveas brutus tasi arden numisu would be pretty good
Ahhaha cheers, u think My lineup is Good i assume Then
Still got wiped :(
@weak fiber try swapping top 2 with bottom 2, or if somebody on front dies too fast, move em to backline. just play around with positions
@edgy seal 1-Lucuis,2-Hogan,3-saveas,4-Belinda,5-shemira
I might just have shit dmg/champs I'll guess I'll just wait
Hey, pretty new and struggling with 4-36 atm. Any changes I could make/ideas what I should run?
@weak fiber swap hogan for numitsu
@young vigil yes can you put heroes on resonating crystal yet? I recommend putting Arden first
@weak fiber swap Brutus and saveas position, put Belinda middle and numitsu at bottom back
@idle path Thanks But i just managed to scrape by with the formation i first sent xD
@edgy seal no problem
@open mural about 30 tries solved that :D
Like this yeah?
@young vigil id reser others to 41 and level saveas to 80 before touching others. Will give some quick progress but understandable if you dont enjoy that type of gameplay
@weak fiber yes try that
I still get wiped I guess I'll wait for more power
Who should I make legendary next?
Any of the lightbearer or should I wait to get another lucius
@idle path I didnt have crystal unlocked at that time, but I passed it
13-7, ends up with shemira laser wars since enemy shemira heals more than mine deals damage...
Well got it as well with some dumb luck and everybosy surviving
Damn no one helped me except one person ๐ฆ
Please help, stuck here for a while lol
@sour coral pm me
@turbid acorn Belinda to 81, use her instead of Shem
Okay the end of road for my progress for near future ๐
Please, ideas?
Worth sacing saveas to safiya?
@lapis raft Not yet, try to wait until you're certain that you won't need a carry like him anymore
@lapis raft not till after level 161+
Can I discuss gw line up here
Can someone tell me what I should upgrade and what lineup I should use.
@spring igloo switch Vurk for Nemora. Line up looks good
Vurk? He is doing the most DMG, but ok I'll try it.
@pale kettle in general, For guild war, try to spread out the good heroes so they're not all on one team since you need to win 2 out of 3. Try to do comps of 3 of one faction or more, or 3/2 for the bonus. When attacking, always re-do your attacking teams to counter the enemy's team and take advantage of faction bonuses.
You get points based on highest rank you held that round, so if you get a high rank, there's no point attacking anymore. Being weak and high ranking only allows the other team to defeat you and gain points. So for instance if you hit rank 1, just stop for the round so you're not getting farmed for points.
Help pls
@pale kettle never put a Brutus against another Brutus so switch positions with Nemora, also, never have a Nemora up front, switch her around with Arden, replace Lyca with Lucius or Belinda because faction advantage against Mauler
@muted cairn it wasn't good idea, and I got 2 new heros should I change my lineup?
@spring igloo switch Vurk for Khasos and put Khasos behind Lucius cus life leech, no idea if that'd be any better though
@spring igloo who are you up against?
A good problem to have. I finally pulled Brutus and Namora in the same 10 summon. Should I change my main lineup here?
@lavish lichen I see that you already have saveas, khasos and Arden so it might be good to use them with your brutus and nemora (Don't reset Shem though)
@lavish lichen not at the moment know, try and get a Legendary Brutus
hello hello, need assistance as I for some reason can't past 10-21 
Help on 11-40 Iโm getting blown up in the first twenty seconds.
@pale kettle your front line is open because Silvana will move behind enemy lines. Try to swap her with your Saveas
Enemy line up on 11-40
@vagrant shale you need an assassin to take out that mirael or it might be hard because of her heal and aoe (assuming she is in the back middle?)
Maybe even use graveborns/wilders for the extra dmg
Arden
Saveas
Lyca
Vedan
Shemira
Potentially because Saveas seems like your strongest right now @vagrant shale
@Chaos Draco#8807 I'll try ๐
Alright so thus far I have been using Nemora, Tasi, Saveas (Backline) and Brutus, Ezihih (Frontline). Within the last two days I have been fortunate enough to pull another two Tasi (in additiont to my already Elite+ Tasi). The question becomes if I should get Arden to Legendary/Legendary+ or get Tasi to Legendary/Legendary+. I already have to the food for Tasi L+ now. What do you guys think I should do?
@green rover I think you should go with arden.. youโre still in the mid game area and 141 arden can help your team a lot. Thatโs my opinion tho
Someone help me plsssss๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
I've been stuck for so long, I can't even lvl up anymore
@muted cairn were you thinking something like this
What should I pick with my lineup?
Should I still wait or what do you guys suggest?
Legendary shemeria? Or someone else
Keep getting my shite kicked in any tips?
Anyone mind helping me with a few lineup questions via PM?
Anything I could change ?
Should I feed warek and golus to brutus?
11-36, Iโm trying different formations but Iโm getting dealt too much dmg. Hoping Fawkesโ coffin could help but sadly not
Do I burn Arden to make either Tasi or Nemora mythic? I really like him for his CC abilities but I do want to advance my lineup. I usually run M+ Shemira, L+ Saveas, L+ Hogan, L+ Tasi, and L+ Arden. Sometimes I swap in Nemora for the heals but she is usually most helpful in the lab
Can someone help me pls
https://i.imgur.com/BoqPK8r.jpg
Bubble, your lineup doesn't have any TANK characters, or those that specialize in receiving dmg. I would suggest Thane, in your case, and Estrilda.
Flower Boy, just level up Brutus. Get him to 120 and you will progress easily.
Who should i muthic ascend first ? I have a L+ hogan ready to up one of my top 3
what should i change
Help!
@brazen thicket Ok, I'll do that. But it's just taking FOREVER to get enough exp just to give him 1 level. It takes like 1.5-2 hrs (afk chest... bc no other way to grind) to give him 1 lvl
I have absolutely no idea how everyone is getting all their champions to lv 120+ already and have all legendary heroes
I'm stuck at 5-40 and absolutely cannot advance. What should I do?
use a tank on 2
hi do I have a team that can beat this ? I can get pretty close 1 in 10 times and have lost by 1 hit a couple times
whos better for chapter 9+ baden or vedan?
Can I get some help just making my squad in general?
@old coyote Which one, all my other tanks are so weak
And Nemora won't heal EVEN ONCE while she's in the back row
hogan
I need 2 nirus to get shem to mythic
Who do I replace in the back row with Nemora?
The lv 50 morvus+?
and use shemira on top left
Nemora won't heal!!!!!!!!!! D:<
donโt use her then
Nothing is working
I've been stuck on this stage for like 2 days now
Ive been on 11-40 for over a week brother, its okay
@deft nebula itโs tough because your squad has like 0 chemistry lol
@dire radish So how do I chemistrizicieze my squad
1-brutus 2-hogan 3-saveas 4-arden 5-shemira @deft nebula
^still no chem but that might be your best bet with what you have
I will try it thanks
Youโre welcome
My shemira is only lv50 tho bc she's using crystal from my lv50 golus
@deft nebula I personally try to evenly distribute my leveling
I wanted to get rid of my golus but I've been waiting for another elite to replace him with
But so far no elites have been dropping at all
Do I swap Shemira with Golus?
Could someone help me out please this is the best team I could come up with and Iโm still stuck
@deft nebula game gets rough sometimes. You may have to just hunker down and afk farm
Should I reset Golus and put in Shemira?
Go for it. It wonโt hurt anything
Afk farming takes like 1.5 hrs to get 1 lvl for 1 character
How do you guys get all 120+ gold champs
But shemria and saveas on the same team! thatโs a lot of dps
"Afk farming takes like 1.5 hrs to get 1 lvl for 1 character" oh sweet summer child
Who is better? Vedan or Baden?
vedan only good if overleveled. Baden too new, no idea
@deft nebula missions give you the exp too and other methods to get leveling materials
Iโm stuck right now too so Iโm wondering if I should tweak my squad or just afk for a while
Graveborn are strong vs light bringers right? Wouldnโt changing advantages help u out @dire radish
Yeah but like my alts are doodoo
I know the feels I have like no front line
Struggle smh. Iโll just afk for a while and just overpower them with leveling I guess
Is that the cursed 9-20?
Yup 9-20 :(((
any tips anyone ? rng gets me hella close sometimes and if i can beat it I can start a train on that shemira
Oof
The comp i got to finally beat 9-20 iirc was
Brutus, estrilda, fawkes, belinda, saveas
My belinda was significantly higher level than everything else so i swapped duras eye from sav to her and it weirdly worked
Belinda is nice for they eye and yikes Iโm Brutusless
I think my sav was on the lowest part of the backline? I dont remember but it helped me kill ira faster which was a BIG threat that was shredding everything
you have a lucius tho which is arguably probably better so you can prob try lucius/hogan or lucius/estrilda
Elite only brutus isnt that op yet and it really just helped me stall out ira iirc
True hmm getting clobbered right now though ๐ฆ
Ye tbh its prob better to wait it out since my belinda was significantly higher level than everything else iirc (lvl 129 or smth?)
Yeah Iโll try to at least get her to 121 for the skill upgrade
I def wouldve rather leveled sav instead tho, it just so happens that i got very sadly capped at 120 w him :feelssadman:
Guys please read the pinned messages
I just got the tavern 100 elite pick. Who do I choose based on my lineup?
Lucius estrilda seems like a good front @wispy surge i usually use fawkes belinda saveas mostly because i lack character diversity like urs and its all i have lmao
Wait where did shad go
I moved to the correct channel, sorry
I cant kill any of them :c Should i rearrange my formation? Or am I just out leveled
@south herald Levels. Formation is good.
Yikes that was expected
Any tips? I get down to 2 left pretty consistently but canโt finish them off even with good rng
@silk river when i play if theres only 2 left consistently i just spam the stage tbh
I did for like 30mins @south herald the saevas just does too much damage (he always lives)
@silk river try putting ur dps heroes around top side idk what else to say sowwy :c maybe change ur topside tank cuz the mauler chick isnt really a tank
@silk river i was stuck on this for a good 2 days, i think you need a stronger frontline and place ur caster in the middle for her aoe
I have her in mainly for the racial bonus and I donโt have much in the way of frontline heroโs
@silk river
Hogan Grezhul front
Saveas/Raine (minimum team bonus) Tasi Belinda back
Iโll let u guys know results thanks โค๏ธ
Real talk though this belinda shouldnt be nearly as tanky as she is and i am getting steamrolled by her, would definitely appreciate someone helping me out here
No luck on those @nocturne crow @pale rover it went better with my original set up due to my light person stunning saveas but Iโve been stuck for about a week ๐ฉ
@silk river You can use Athalia in place of Saveas, if you like.. although that's a bit of a drop in dps that you'll need for that fight. You truly need Arden for that so use him if you have him. His roots will really help.
I just got the tavern 100 elite pick
Which faction should I choose? Would wilder be ok?
This is my lineup
https://i.imgur.com/DazORTu.jpg
Anything to change? Not really stuck but could use some advice
Honestly donโt know wtf to do. Been stuck for a long ass time
@pale kettle try to switch Lucius with brutus and arden with sav
Help
@lone tiger Level up ๐ณ
A 20 level advantage (or even 15) is way too much for PvE.
Especially when the enemies have a higher Ascension tier included in their formation...
Level them up, prioritizing Hogan, Safia, Khasos, then Fawkes. Level 81 should be enough as they go through another ability upgrade milestone. ^^
Alright thanks, thatโs what Iโve been doing. Good to know Iโm on the right track
@sour plinth Does Fawkes die too quickly here?
Think you could get Brutus to level 161?
Does Raine survive well with your current Frontline or does she die Immediately to Vedan's bat form?
Think that Athalia could be placed in Arden's place and place Arden instead of Lyca?
Can Nemora heal or does she die too early? If she manages to heal, keep her. If not, you could switch to Fawkes if he survive.
Hey all, looking for tips on 6-36
@wise merlin hey uhh, so if you scroll up to my team again, two of my main 5 heroes are on the RC. Do you think itโs better for me to reset the ones I donโt often use (maybe a few times tho) and put them in RC instead? And I level up my Safiya and Fawkes
Iโm curious what my best โgo toโ lineup would be and was wondering what your thoughts were
@stone moat Firstly ;
Reset Shemira. Level up Belinda instead (E tier vs E+ tier)
Next up :
Ascend Safia... You have 3 duplicates of her ๐ณ use 2 to ascend to E+.
Then, Reset Khasos and level Safia up with the exp used on Khasos.
(It's always good to keep the highest current tiers in your top 5 heroes. ^^)
Should i make saveas 149 instead of shem?
Thanks Nicky
@lone tiger You should keep it how it is. ^^ you're too early into the game to be wasting that much gems on useless hero resets. Focus 100% of your gems on 10x pulls for now ๐
Oh ok, Thanks
@fallow vine In my opinion, your default lineup should look like so :
Arden
Saveas / Lucius
Fawkes / Raine
Hogan / Kaz
Nemora / Tasi
No, Shemira is Ascended tier originally and Saveas will end up being fodder... If anything, I would be starting to pull faction pulls of Graveborns, and purchase 10x pulls hoping for Graveborns to get her to that sweet level 161 power spike @maiden cargo
Ok
So Iโm reading that as 100% Arden, then on or the other for the other 4 (exp: Saveas or Lucius) @wise merlin
It really depends on what faction you're facing ^^
Arden is overall cc so he's good in any occasion. So is Saveas but sometimes he struggles to survive. @fallow vine
Help I am stuck on this level, also what would be a good team in general with what I have
Any help??
@drowsy marlin reset Lucius and invest the resources onto Lyca. Place Lucius within the Crystal. (L+ tier vs E+, 100% of the time, the L+ tier wins)
And where i use lyca?
You don't have to use Lyca, it's to increase your Crystal's maximum level (right now it's 120 due to E+, but having All+ there will increase the maximum level to 140, until you'll place 5 L+ heroes there)
Any advice? Real stuck here
Ue but i dont have the resource
@drowsy marlin You will eventually. ^^
@summer copper Swap Nemora for Tasi, place Grezhul instead of Estrilda if she dies too quick.
RNG is your best friend. Try several times that formation and see if it works ^^
dont know which chars to use for my team
@real lintel Your top 5 heroes make due for now ^^
Take it chill, go easy, friend, you're at the start of the game, let the game roll and once you have some questions that are a little bit more complicated feel free to ask!

just trying to be as effecient as possible
I'm stuck at 12-36 any help
@smoky perch Stage and hero list in one post please, crop if the images are too large.
@smoky perch That definitely needs levels and maybe ascensions. You actually have a decent team except I'd replace Belinda with a single target so you have focused damage. Not certain about Thane there though because of the GB backline, but could work. That's a hard one because they're mixed, can't blame you for being stuck.
Help with 9-28
I can't get any further levels on the characters in my line up at the moment without at least 1 most L+ but they all seem like a mile off. The real trouble is that by the time I deal get ult on Shemira everyone else is down and brutus has spin up
Need help building my team and figuring out what to ascend https://i.imgur.com/nQCJbje.jpg
Any suggestions?
hey guys, i was wondering , i have L+ arden and I want to feed him to nemora for her ascention, but i still wanna keep using arden in my team, is there a big difference in health (i only care about the CC) between L+and E+ arden?
@rugged vigil There's a huge difference.
E+ Arden may only root 2 random people at time (Which could be problematic because it's random and sometimes he would root a target that Fawkes catches, or a target that Tasi puts away for a little.)
With Arden being L+, he could root an additional one (or even all 3) while Tasi and Fawkes catch hold of another hero in the enemy formation.
Though you must remember, both Fawkes and Tasi's cc are directed to the most powerful enemy, while Arden is straight out RNG. Every run could go different. ^^
Hope it cleared something out ^^
i have resonation crystal above 140, so the cc still applies to 3 people
Yes, but if you'll use him as fodder, then.. he won't be usable anymore.
Also, I wouldn't* ascend Nemora that quick unless you have at least 4 mythics already and 1 Ascended tier hero in your formation
@rugged vigil It really depends on what chapter you are. ^^
Chapter 16 is essentially where Arden's usefulness is not in effect anymore. :x
My turn to get stuck at 9-20. I struggle with my tanks not getting ascended, and I'm probably underleveled, but any ideas with what I have?
Got fawkes?
What i used to win was a rly similar team to yours
Hogan brutus fawkes belinda saveas, everything else except belinda was capped at 120 and belinda was level 129 iirc
Swapped duras eye from sav to bel and i won :D
No I'm praying for fawkes! Was thinking he'd help a lot.
@rugged vigil I would definitely ascend her, but only once she's at her level cap. Just to be sure. ^^ if Arden starts to feel useless then do make sure you have a good replacement before ascending
I'm gonna try swapping the artifacts though, thanks for the tip @frank scarab
I swapped it out to whoever was higher level, if you can level bel past 120 but not sav you can do that
Isabella and Ira were the ones i noticed doing a lot of damage and were huge threats, iirc fawkes coffined isabella and brutus sav was the fastest i could get to ira
Distract ira and isabella enough to kill the rest of the team and its gg
suggestions for this level?
I'm using thoran/vedan Brutus saveas safiya shemira usually, any room for upgrades? I got most of the Wilders recently and have room on resonating crystal aswell
Could do with some help here. Brutus is bullying me
Anyone idea to clear 9-20?
Most likely level wall
underlevel? okay.
Help please:(
Lol @runic tundra I was stuck on 9-19 and with your line-up I owned it ๐