#lineup-help

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fossil moth
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@split prairie Eye on saveas, Call on Lucius, Grace i forgot to switch ... but would have gone to tasi

fading gull
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@covert condor my advice is to grind out a few more lvls and get Arden to his max

torpid goblet
forest shadow
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They just die ao fast, I guess I need to afk nore ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

fading gull
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@forest shadow try it out and also get athalia to 121

covert condor
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@fading gull icant even grind out anymore levels sadly, imma have to actually wait for afk rewards lol

fading gull
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@covert condor that might be your best bet then friend sorry

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@forest shadow get athalia too 121 or Vedan

pale kettle
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@torpid goblet swap athalia with saveas on spots or you could try doing it like, kick lucuis and belinda, move saveas in front of khasos and brutus on estrilda, athalia middle back and the other 2 would be arden and tasi

torpid goblet
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@pale kettle Athalia is needed in middle spot to stop Morvus from destroying my backline and I have just tried your suggest line-up, but didn't work. Thanks for trying ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale kettle
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@torpid goblet did you put arden on bottom so he can root saveas?

torpid goblet
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@pale kettle Yup, but Tasi is kind of making it not possible to attack Morvus by cc'ing him, so when he gets out of the cc he destroys everyone

earnest plank
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Right now i run lucius, lyca, saveas, nemora, tasi. Any better lineup i can run?

pale kettle
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@torpid goblet have you tryed ezizh for the 30% deff bonus?

pale kettle
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@earnest plank consider using arden for tasi

torpid goblet
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@pale kettle I just tried it and only managed to kill Morvus and no one else :/

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My level is probably the thing that is holding me back. I'll just try to see what I can do when I get their level higher

pale kettle
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brutus on 141 should help

fading gull
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Ok Belinda is Definitely doing a lot more damage than Vedan so replacing him now is quite okay to do

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But ummm the problem with this is I have 0 lightbearers to get the most out of her atm

fossil moth
coral solar
bleak condor
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Somehow I've managed to beat the last fight of stage 11. With only one hero that has reached L+, three L and one E+

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After over a hundred tries in just one night๐Ÿ˜…

coral solar
bleak condor
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To me its all in the formation not the level or the team strength

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Even at stage 11 I still use my Elite Athalia to break enemy formation and deal with those pesky backliners

coral solar
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@bleak condor this is lineup help chat, not chill and chat, thereโ€™s #classic-chat for that

bleak condor
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Oh, then you should leave Lyca on the back line. The front you need tanky heroes like Hogan and Lucius

torpid goblet
gleaming wraith
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I would say maybe try 3 wilders since there are 3 graveborns on the opposing side. And for the opposing wilders get 2 maulers on your team.

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I don't know how much this will help but it's all I got for advice

sage carbon
polar jolt
placid dirge
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@polar jolt Belinda cant go wrong

polar jolt
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That was my thoughts on it as well

pale kettle
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Make savas Elite and reset all ur heroes and mae em level 61 instead > all leftover exp goes to saveas

thorn moth
pale kettle
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Need some help for 8-24

warm creek
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Iโ€™m stuck in the same spot @pale kettle but for some reason when I get to 1on1 saveas theirs stops losing health at around 1/3 health. So I keep stalling

pale kettle
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Damn dude, I canโ€™t even drop the fucking tanks right now before my teamโ€™s wiped.

warm creek
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I use Tasi Arden Lyca Brutus. So it gives me a strong start

pale kettle
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Iโ€™d been using Tasi, Lyca, Nemora backline and Sav Brutus front line, but backline gets insta-wiped because of factional bonuses

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My levels and gear are probably too low

coral solar
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Hey @placid dirge

pale rover
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@pale kettle You're going to need to level. Top 5 with Arden instead of Nemora is fine.

@pale kettle You'll need to level and ascend.
Lucius Brutus
Belinda Saveas Tasi
There won't be a faction bonus.

coral solar
pale kettle
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What do you mean @pale rover ? The bonus goes away once theyโ€™re ascended high enough?!

sullen lava
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saveas needs to get ccd by nem, u can just auto it

pale rover
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@coral solar You really need to badly ascend your heroes. 100 percent that's the problem. You're still mostly elite+ while the opponents are already partly mythic.

Hogan top Golus bottom front
Saveas Belinda Fawkes
(3-2 team bonus)

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@pale kettle The team I gave you has no faction bonus but has great synergy. Try it out!

warm creek
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@pale kettle I just beat it with this. It took tons of Rng into I finally had everyone but Lyca vs Saveas.

sullen lava
sage carbon
pale rover
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@pale kettle You'll want to avoid using Lightbearers against Graveborn. Since those are two mixed factions, aim for a neutral faction possibly mixed with the one that is superior to the other; in this case, you can preferably do Maulers (neutral) with Wilders.

From your hero list:
Ogi Vedan
Shemira Tasi Lyca (haste, team bonus)/Saveas (no team bonus)

pale kettle
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Thanks @pale rover

weary estuary
coral solar
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@pale rover well it got me there without ascending and I just ascended savaes lol

golden harness
coral solar
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@golden harness why do you have belinda elite in crystal lol

golden harness
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Lmao I didn't even notice that

coral solar
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And for 20 extra lvl, take out elite of the crystal and put elite+

coral solar
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@potent oar saveas #3 belinda 4 and switch Arden with fawkes

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If that doesnโ€™t work @potent oar switch brutus with Lucius

silent terrace
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@potent oar must kill that sniper first
saveas 160
the rest 121, remaining resource give everyone same level

p1 = brutus
p2 = hogan
p3 = lucius
p4 = khasos
p5 = saveas

coral solar
silent terrace
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@coral solar put saveas instead of athalia
whoever the mage silvina target, put saveas behind her ( tasi / nemora )
the mage should be on pos2
pos1 should be kaz
pos5 should be saveas
pos3 and pos4 should be lyca and other mage that is not targeted by silvina

harsh tartan
coral solar
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@silent terrace if I put savaes pos5 he gets neutralize by Arden

brazen yarrow
silent terrace
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@coral solar then keep retry button until arden didnt root him , as long silvina dies before she ult, you should be fine

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@harsh tartan first priority is getting saveas L+
2nd priority i think is arden L+
both should be reach, not choosing either one

then main line up can be, brutus saveas lyca arden + [nemora/tasi either one]
as long saveas L+ and arden L+ , the other 3 can be just elite and you should still be able beating chapter 13

but remember, for lab, spend all coins only on shemira, not on nemora / other hero
starting ch14, you must have Mythical Shemira to progress

rotund girder
harsh tartan
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ok, thanks ๐Ÿ‘

light elm
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@harsh tartan ferael or athalia. For sav

@rotund girder kill vedan first, put sav bottom

rotund girder
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@light elm i'm trying, but it doesn't work, the few times he kills him, nemora stays and just fuck him up :/

harsh tartan
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guess I should just leave shemira at 120 and save all the essence for sav

light elm
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If he can stand in the front lines, put arden behind him. Replace shem

rotund girder
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k nvm i just won

torpid cape
light elm
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That's chap 6 isn't it? There's a guide in the pinned

torpid cape
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Oh I meant 6-30

light elm
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Oh did they change the team composition?

torpid cape
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Yeah, itโ€™s a lot harder now imo

light elm
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Of you get some levels you'll clear pretty easy I think, you're very underleveled

torpid cape
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Only my second day in this server x)

snow hornet
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hey, i can make belinda or lucius mythic, more tank or more dps ? (i'm at 11-40) Actual comp : Lucius L+, Brutus L, Nemora L+, Fawkes L, Belinda L+ all around 140

torpid cape
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They added silvina which fks me up a bit. I donโ€™t have tasi or Fawkes to help with it so itโ€™s hard

silent terrace
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@rotund girder yes, dont use shemira before she is 161 since she is not good tank before that
better to use golus on this case instead of shemira
if i were you, i would reset your shemira to level 120, give remaining resources to saveas

after that, swap your saveas to belinda position , should be easy win

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@snow hornet luciusss in my opinion > belinda so much

rotund girder
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@silent terrace i actually won and explosed 9-36, but now i'm locked at 9-37 :/

fossil blaze
silent terrace
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@rotund girder your capability to win is high, since you only have 30k difference, you should be able to go straight to 9-40 for sure, even straight chapter 10
keep going ๐Ÿ˜ƒ if u're stuck post again here

coral solar
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@rotund girder whats your line up Iโ€™m stuck at 9-38 lol

silent terrace
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@coral solar how does it goes simm? did your saveas ever beat silvina before she ult?

coral solar
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Not at all

rotund girder
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@silent terrace so i should reset shem to lvl 120, but to who do i give the dust so ? hogan ?

light elm
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@snow hornet I find lucius much more helpful

@fossil blaze replace vedan with nemora/arden

silent terrace
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@rotund girder yes since you use hogan and dont use shemira

coral solar
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@silent terrace belinda almost manage to kill silvina herself but for the rest Isabella kills everything lol

silent terrace
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@coral solar come private message, easier to chat

snow hornet
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Ok thanks @silent terrace @light elm

fossil blaze
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@light elm alright thanks

rotund girder
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@silent terrace so team would be golus hogan athalia belinda saveas right ?

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and for artifacts, should i give eye to belinda and grace to saveas or eye to saveas and grace to hogan ?

light elm
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Eye to saveas

silent terrace
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@rotund girder composition = golus hogan athalia belinda saveas = yes
but position of each hero is changeable depending on the enemy you fight okay, if u stuck just post here so i can help with position wise =)

NB better if you can replace golus with brutus, but golus would do fine for now

about artifacts, most people like to give saveas the CRIT/SPD artifact, as for myself, i prefer my saveas use the shield when ult artifact hahaha

bronze delta
rotund girder
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ya i prefer using the shield when ult too because it actually gives 8% hp and hp recovery too, and saveas rely on max hp to do damage

bronze delta
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Any suggestions? Currently I run Lucius and Ogi in the front, saveas tasi and nemora

light elm
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@rotund girder saveas dmg is CURRENT HP, not max so it's not as good

@bronze delta suggestions for leveling or teams

bronze delta
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Teams rather not leveling sorry I didn't specify. Also if possible what 10 heros I should put in the resonating crystal so I can do some challengers tournament.

crisp coral
light elm
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@bronze delta reset ogi and get arden up. Him and saveas are the first priority to 141. Saveas first.
Sav nemora arden tasi khaos 1st team. Can change khasos for a unit you feel is more tanky
Grezhul vedan ferael hogan thane lucius 2nd. Can use estrilda if you used lucius in 1st team

silent terrace
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@rotund girder my saveas always 1 vs 2 up to 1 vs 4 remaining heroes , that's why i gave saveas that artifact
but if u have strong enough tank , such as good geared and high rarity brutus, you can 2 vs many at the end of battle , therefore u can use crit / aspd artifact on saveas instead ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rotund girder
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thx a LOT @silent terrace after beating 8-37 i rushed through the levels, but not using golus and using Arden instead (because i actually have only 1 stuff tank :/ i will patch that ^^)
and i'm actually at chapter 10 now :D

light elm
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@bronze delta you need another tank for your 2nd team so that's your priority. And what did you do with belinda? Or have you not got her yet

bronze delta
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Haven't gotten Belina :(

silent terrace
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@crisp coral try this
pos1 belinda
pos2 brutus
pos3 saveas
pos4 athalia
pos5 hogan

rotund girder
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now a question, because i have 10 scrolls for graveborn, and as graveborn heroes i selected Shemira and Isabella in the wishlist, can i put only shem ? what should i do ?

light elm
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@bronze delta she's a day 7 reward as elite+, don't worry

@rotund girder put all 5 if you don't like pulling legendary tier purples

bronze delta
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Can I drop khasos for Lucius? I Love his shield

silent terrace
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@rotund girder woh congrats then ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
from what i heard u can't just put 1 ascended heroes
if you put 5 on your wishlist, you will guaranteed get 1 out of 5 , IF on that pull YOU HAPPEN TO GET ELITE
but if you put < 5 on your wishlist, i am not sure

light elm
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If you only want shem, and don't care if you pull ferael or vedan, you can only put shemira

@bronze delta ofc. Khasos isn't very good, I just suggested him because you don't have any good tank, and I wanted to balance both teams a bit

bronze delta
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Wait a 7 day gft? What you mean .-. did I miss something important I've been playing for about a month lol ..

crisp coral
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@silent terrace ty for the suggestion, without ezizh belinda dies right away ...
Also my Brutus is only elite, dies instant /:

light elm
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@bronze delta the login event. Did you take them all?

bronze delta
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I'm 99% sure I did ...

night horizon
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any tips for 4-36? other than just AFK for a long time

rotund girder
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YAY, got shem :D

crisp coral
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anyone have any ideas? Im there for a few days already feels like Im getting nowhere

atomic pelican
light elm
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@bronze delta you foddered her then. Rip

@night horizon overlevel your dps, and afk for 12 hours or so chap 4 doesn't take long

Does saveas survive if you put him before athalia?
@crisp coral

crisp coral
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Saveas always dies last @light elm

just usually he is aginst 4 at the end ><

night horizon
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worth getting brutus to 61 first or just max out Saveas

light elm
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@crisp coral switch saveas and ezizh for a few runs

@night horizon max your dps first I'd say, but you can probably do both within half a day

silent terrace
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@crisp coral remember this
if you're fighting enemy silvina

what you need to remember is this idea

your mage will die no matter what , especially on campaign since they overpower you
this condition alone can simply say, you will be 4 vs 5 [ your mage die ]

so, what you must do is beat enemy silvina before enemy silvina use ULT, because if she ULT, guarantee one of your remaining hero will die [ 3 vs 5 condition ]

that's why you must kill silvina first before silvina ult to gain [ 4 vs 4 ] condition

doesn't matter if your belinda die, as long silvina die before she ult is fine enough, therefore u dont need ezich

in addition, brutus elite still better than most tank, simply because 4s immunity, i'm at ch14 , and currently im still using elite brutus hahaha

deep citrus
cold rock
silent terrace
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@crisp coral try to kill silvina before she ult, and then kill niru after silvina dies
brutus and hogan try at pos2/pos3 , you look which one better
as long they dont die and your saveas can kill niru after silvina dies, that should be efficient enough
5th place can be athalia to make sure she didnt die too fast

good luck, RNG of critical will helps you to clear

crisp coral
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@silent terrace thanks for the tip mate.

tried

pos1 belinda
pos2 brutus
pos3 saveas
pos4 athalia
pos5 hogan

in this pase feels like I'll have to afk for a month or so to pass this ><

deep citrus
pale kettle
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Heya, I've been thinking about changing up my lineup. Been hardstuck and know that my current one isn't viable into further parts of the game. Any suggestions?

silent terrace
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@crisp coral maybe athalia die before niru die , that's why niru keep getting healed, try athalia pos5
pos2 and pos3, you decide which one better, because you must also find a condition where niru die before hogan / brutus die to reach the most efficient result

and yes, if it looks like you need to AFK , then so be it, since enemy is overpowering you at this stage haha, at one lucky day, you will crit a lot and win the round with that position , good luck my friend

coarse igloo
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im getting such bad pulls from my gems :/ getting kinda redicuous. im like 80k under the current campaign level. cant seem to get anything i need to improve my line up.

silent terrace
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@deep citrus hogan pos2, saveas pos5,
best agi gear remove from silvina to saveas, and try again

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@coarse igloo everyone will get overpower by campaign, it's normal in this game my friend, the higher chapter you are, the less power you are compared to your campaign

coarse igloo
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@silent terrace which is fine, but id expect to get something after spending $50 on gems in the last week..... i pulled one elite. and the other elite i pulled was from a free scroll.

silent terrace
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@pale kettle whoever got targeted by silvina at first, swap it's position with your ogi and try again

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@coarse igloo if you would like to get elite, dont spend $ on gems, spend it on daily gift, the one 1$ cost, that give you 10 purple stone, 6$ = 1 elite guaranteed
48$ = 8 elite guaranteed

fossil blaze
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Need help with 6-36 I just get melted

crisp coral
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@fossil blaze I was stuck there for a few...

eventually all I did was pumping saveas elite+ as high as I can, and he literaly carried me through

fossil blaze
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@crisp coral I have him as my highest lvl 100 but ezizh just keeps getting 4 shot

coarse igloo
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If you're spending real moeny. they shouldnt make it so RNG based. or at least actually make the wishlist work. because i feel like after they added wishlist. my pulls have gotten worse. They can give me the worst pulls ever for the free gems and scrolls. idc about that.

And yeah @silent terrace yeah, i spent it on the montly package. but do you think its worth it overtime to just keep buying the purple gems? and not even bother with the monthly gifts

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@silent terrace buying the daily gift would take me essentially a week to get one elite... lol

silent terrace
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@coarse igloo if your question basically asking which is the best deal to spend using $
i would say the daily gift , the one give you purple stone x 10
then the monthly one give you 60

the rest of the deal is basically scamming IMO as it doesn't guarantee [ based on RNG / luck ]

fossil blaze
coarse igloo
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Yeah, fair enough. seems like a much better deal. can spend a lot more money than i would on the daily/weekly and not even get a single elite.

silent terrace
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@fossil blaze you need bonus my friend, without bonus and so so rarity, i dont believe that's good idea

wild trout
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@fossil blaze do you have golus?? if have you should take on position 1 position 2 is brutus and change belinda to numisu

pale kettle
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Sorry for reposting, but my previous question was still not answered. I

I've been thinking about changing up my lineup. I know that my current one isn't viable into further parts of the game. Any suggestions?

wild trout
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@fossil blaze if still isnt working change numisu with arden

light elm
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@pale kettle try lucius seirus arden nemora saveas

silent terrace
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@fossil blaze your saveas must kill the spider lady, she is weak , but annoying spider silk + her poison is really crazy in terms of damage
so saveas must be at pos4
your brutus should tank saveas enemy damage,
nemora can stay at pos3 , but he must make sure charm enemy saveas, if she charm anyone else, quickly quit battle and retry
pos2 and pos5 should be another from mauler
skreg is fine at pos2
pos5 numisu is fine, ezizch also fine, u see for yourself which one will be better

minor hatch
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Stuck

spiral bobcat
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Which is best?

silent terrace
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@pale kettle as soon you have 141 arden, it will helps a lot
you just need 1 more E arden to get him to L+
then , you can use arden L+ , nemora E+ is fine, + 1 lyca if possible, if not possible, then any elite wilder is fine here

nemora + arden is like cc only,
the remaining 2 should be damage + tank

if you're lvl 161, you can use brutus + shemira since shemira heal at 161 is god
if below 161, i suggest saveas + brutus

brutus himself is a tank that can't die 4 / x second, and deal a lot of damage when he is low, so fit this category
saveas and shemira somehow fit this category as well, but looking at E+ saveas, it will be a long road
nevertheless i wish u good luck on rolling

Extra Tips : lab store, always buy shemira, u need her to get mythical to reach lvl 161

meager peak
silent terrace
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@meager peak yes yes yes, it serve me until ch14
but you must buy shemira myth.. why you make ferael myth instead huehueu
at ch14 i feel impossible to progress without shemira lvl 200

pale kettle
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@silent terrace I've been currently buying only the nemora from lab store. Should I switch to shem?

light elm
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@minor hatch try nemora and arden for belinda and athalia. Or only nemora for belinda

@spiral bobcat don't sacrifice grezhul or ferael

@meager peak maybe lucius for brutus, try both out. Probably not atm, but try again in 20 levels or so

meager peak
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Fatal because I could I guess lol. He helped me beat 12-40

weak dawn
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Should i look to get estrilda to legendary and replace with hogan?

light elm
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Nope she isn't as good at legend

spiral bobcat
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I like Grezhul a lot, arenโ€™t all three really good? My lineup uses vegan and grezhul front line with a fawkes raine Belinda backline, butbi switch my front to Burtus and Kreg depending on matchup @light elm

fossil blaze
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@silent terrace it worked, thanks

silent terrace
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@pale kettle i would say 100/100 yes,
whatever you do, lab store, just buy shemira from now on
you want to have your CARRY to get the highest resource [ gear , level , rarity ]
before 161, u dont have to worry much, but once campaign's enemy lvl is >160, without shemira 180 it will feel impossible

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@fossil blaze oh great to hear, grats for you bud
did u use ezich? hahaha i felt like he is kinda weak

weak dawn
light elm
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@spiral bobcat vedan can be used as fodder, but definitely don't sacrifice the other 2

spiral bobcat
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Ty @light elm

fossil blaze
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@silent terrace nope I used numisu, ezizh just gets 2 shot and low dmg, skreg was way tankier as well

pale kettle
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Lucius, Estrilda, Tasi, Nemora, Belinda @weak dawn

silent terrace
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@weak dawn first thing first
always remember this
give best resource [ LEVEL , GEAR , RARITY ] to your solo carry [ saveas on this case ]
by that i mean, level 101 him, while the other can stay at 81 or 80 if needed

weak dawn
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Thanks guys, i have my best gear in him already

pale kettle
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How's Lucius, Seirus, Tasi, Ferael and Nemora for a dream team? @silent terrace

light elm
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@weak dawn always level the heroes with highest ascension. Even if you don't use them

silent terrace
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@weak dawn as for composition
i would suggest saveas brutus + 3 wilder or 3 LB
either lyca nemora tasi or lucius hogan estrilda

i dont recommend using belinda if you have 3 tank gear, as belinda doesn't do shit
saveas only need your team to buy him time, he can take care the enemy as long you have enough time, as for belinda, her dmg wont even compare to saveas, her buff also just so-so, and she died too fast, that's why if you have enough 3 tank gear and better than your mage gear, i would say go 3 tank LB instead of belinda

or you can go 3 wilder build, depending on the enemy faction you are facing

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@pale kettle there's no such thing as dream team without looking at level, so what lvl are we talking here?

dense escarp
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should i use shemira or saveas in chapter 6?

light elm
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Saveas I suggest you use after 100 or 120

dense escarp
pale kettle
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Right now I'm at 30, but I was hoping to make that my end game team

rugged folio
silent terrace
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@dense escarp your problem is not giving best resource to your carry
saveas 81 first instead of seirus
all agi gear give him
then position him at pos5 will do a lot better than your current position

weak dawn
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@silent terrace great thanks for the advice. Should i look to apply this straight away? If im running saveas brutus lucius hogan and estrilda, thats 4 tanks.

Seems a little extreme and as far as brutus is concerned, i will only be able to take him so far considering his rarity

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Brutus is also prettu squishy

light elm
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@weak dawn who tanks better than brutus on your team?

silent terrace
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@pale kettle this game doesn't work like that
on each lvl 21 , 41 , 61 , 81 , 101, etc
they have different upgrade skills
each hero has different advantages on different skills
such as, for warek, once he reach 161, he is lifted from TRASH tier
before 161, warek is such a trash who died too fast
181 warek become even better as DPS

shemira also can be tank when she 161, but before 161, you ask her to tank, she just die
therefore, talking dream team, there's no such thing

for example, my guild master have 5 Light bringer team, at lvl 200-220 his team consists is
brutus, Belinda, Lucius, raine, thane, and they are monsters

but if you use the same team, at lvl let's say 100-120, they are shit

torpid goblet
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nv

pale kettle
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I'm considering them with their lvl 81 abilities

light elm
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@pale kettle at 81, overlevel your main dps and put 4 heroes to cc enemy and protect dps

weak dawn
light elm
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@weak dawn I'd rather use lyca for hogan, and brutus for lucius, if he tanks better

pale kettle
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Ferael would be my main DPS, Lucius and Seirus tank, Nemora, Lucius and Tasi heal, everyone in the team provides cc

weak dawn
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@light elm ill try it out

past ermine
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this is really annoying me as ive spent gems for resetting cause i cant pass it

light elm
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@past ermine how does belinda fare for shemira?belinda top

pale kettle
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It seems solid to me. Plus they only get better as they level up.

light elm
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@pale kettle overlevel him to 100 then, and then bring everyone up equally

pale kettle
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But is the overall team a good idea to work towards? Thanks for the help everyone, by the way!

silent terrace
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@weak dawn that's right, 4 tanks
as of now ,
if you think u have better gear for 3 tanks + 1 mage compared to 4 tanks + 0 mage , then use the 3 tanks + 1 belinda

brutus is squishy, but even if he is squishy he is better than any tank
like i said, the key of saveas strategy is buy him enough time to own enemy ass
brutus can absolutely do that by buying 4 more second for your team
think about this,

you start with 5 hero at 1:30

at 1:25 , your brutus reach 1 hp
you can still have him at 1:21 since he has 4s immunity before die
[ until 1:21 you still have 5 hero ]

compared to say any other hero that is not as squishy ** to be your main tank**
they probably have better def , but against enemy saveas for example also die at 1:23
[ at 1:23 you already left with 4 hero ]

light elm
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No it only works because you're 81. Very soon it will stop working. Around 100-110

past ermine
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every time Sav and Golus are the last two while whoever i have to 101 is my last man standing

light elm
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@past ermine how about thane and belinda top? Does it get worse?

pale kettle
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I'm trying to figure out why though.. it seems to hit all of the criterias of a good team. Tanking, DPS, healing, CC

past ermine
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see my issue with thane top is that he jumps into the middle of them then is the first to die most times

light elm
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@pale kettle because ferael fails in the dps section come level 100 or so

silent terrace
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@pale kettle lvl below 160, saveas will deal much higher damage than any other hero in the pool currently
i would still say try your best on saveas strategy, but as of transition phase
if you want to use ferael , i will say ferael is kinda trash, his ability basically DEPENDANT on HEROES to die to reach efficient terms, maybe try vedan even better than ferael at lv 81
use this to know which hero should be your solo carry
https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list

This is an end-game focused Tier List for AFK Arena. It's based on the heroes at their maximum level.As only certain heroes can become Mythic, that was a huge factor when making the list.

pale kettle
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Oh! He's the most replaceable hero on the team. If I put a better DPS, would the team suffice as in-game tier?

light elm
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Yes. Use saveas instead. Maybe not right now, but he becomes amazing at 121, the best dps at that stage

pale kettle
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I'll watch the video now. I'm only using Ferael at the moment because I pulled 3 of him.... Lol

light elm
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@pale kettle it's a site there's no video

past ermine
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Alright thank you @light elm that got me by, by the skin of my teeth on the fourth attempt

vital vessel
light elm
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@past ermine ๐Ÿ‘Œ
How do you only get to level 90 in a week though elethathink

pale kettle
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Seirus is just as replaceable as Ferael on the team. The main Strat is to have Lucius, Nemora and Tasi heal the team to victory

past ermine
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?

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i hope that wasnt a question for me

silent terrace
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@pale kettle
Ferael would be my main DPS, Lucius and Seirus tank, Nemora, Lucius and Tasi heal, everyone in the team provides cc

ferael in my opinion depends on heroes to die, any hero die give him more damage , since he spawn more spirit
therefore he is not a BURST dps , therefore you can also say your DPS is not 100%
nemora lucius tasi , those 3 can be considered lack dps
seirus , also just a tank which lack dps as well

so you could see how lack dps this team,
also including, you only have 3 wilder bonus, meaning you only have the worst bonus after no-bonus, meaning damage wise also not that high..
i hope that helps

light elm
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@past ermine when I got belinda on my alts I was like level 110+ if I leveled equally. Maybe I'm remembering wrong

pale kettle
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I see, there's a lot I'm not thinking about. Are the bonuses important or are they just there as extra?

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The team is heavily defensive inspired 100%

light elm
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@pale kettle it's a really nice extra for now

silent terrace
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@pale kettle
Seirus is just as replaceable as Ferael on the team. The main Strat is to have Lucius, Nemora and Tasi heal the team to victory

^ this idea , however can be done in arena
as you can just win as long enemy can't kill you on time
lucius can be tank , add arden to helps another cc
and add possibly fawkes or lyca or brutus to win the arena , in terms of defending your own rank, you can win it xD

pale kettle
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Let me Google those names real quick lol, then I'll give my feedback. Thanks so much btw!

light elm
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@pale kettle Fawkes is emo Robin Hood and arden is the grandpa

pale kettle
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Right. Is Lyca a good DPS?

silent terrace
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@pale kettle i believe if you dont over geared , over rarity, or over heroed, bonus is impactful
sometime in arena , i found those 50k power higher but without bonus, i can easily burst down therefore reaching 5 vs 4 condition after 5s , then win them easily

therefore i would say, bonus helps in specific condition

light elm
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She's not really a dps. She is there to enable your cc heroes and strong ultimates to get out faster

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She lowers defense if she can stay alive, which isn't a lot

silent terrace
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@rocky wasp might want to show us all your hero too

pale kettle
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I'm just trying to work towards a competent end game team.

Lucius, Estrilda/Hogan, Tasi, Lyca/Saveas, Nemora? This team should have the proper bonuses

(The names in this game are awesome)

livid wedge
gilded fractal
silent terrace
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@vital vessel you must kill silvina first before she ult, then after silvina die, kill niru ASAP before any other hero die if possible
if not possible ,at least 3 remaining of your hero and 3 other remaining of enemy hero shouldn't die, and niru should die

therefore saveas must be pos5
pos2 should be mage, i will say nemora here
pos1 can be brutus
pos3 can be kaz
pos4 can be khasos

reset your belinda, reset your fawkes
give 100 to khasos
give lvl 101 to brutus
give the remaining level to saveas

good luck

light elm
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@pale kettle there are different phases of end game. This team that you want to build, what is your time frame? Like how long are you willing to wait for it to really show what it can do

livid wedge
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Any idea of how can i beat it ? ๐Ÿ˜…

pale kettle
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I assumed that it would be ready at 81 and only get stronger and stronger afterwards

light elm
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@gilded fractal right now maybe try lucius thane belinda saveas shemira

gilded fractal
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@light elm for real? my thanes only elite though, his dps is quite shoddy

silent terrace
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@gilded fractal i use warek, as long warek stay behind at soren + nemora sometime use ult to heal everyone, he will get infinite charm therefore can solo tank soren and no one else get charmed, but make sure he get the best gear

2 ult of warek will make warek stay behind soren
at this point, dont use ult on warek anymore

the rest should be saveas brutus nemora
1 more should be from wilder or mauler

before 2 ult of warek , soren will use 2 charm to everyone
at this time, nemora can help give shield to saveas by over healing 1 time = to avoid saveas got charmed
the very first charm most likely inevitable, if saveas got charm, immediately quit battle and retry
works well for me to reach 6m damage, once reach this damage, just need to quick battle for remaining hauhuauha

light elm
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@pale kettle the game doesn't really work that way. The biggest break point is 160. Teams before 160, and after 160, are wildly different.

@gilded fractal thane is there to turn soren around. Not for dps. He gets charmed the first time, then lucius shields the 2nd charm, then he goes behind for the 3rd charm and dies. You can probably block 2-3 charms. Silvina is much better than him though. But you don't have her built

gilded fractal
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oh gosh this is confusing haha do i have to manually fight then?

pale kettle
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Alright. I guess that I'll casually play as I'm playing and see how far I can go with this strat. I'll work on an end game team when I understand how levels effect teams a bit better.

Thanks again for all of the info!

gilded fractal
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@light elm for your strategy, would i have to manually time any ults or let it run? @silent terrace is warek viable even at my lvl? regardless i dont have him in the crystal rn unfortunately

light elm
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@gilded fractal for warek, yes. But he can die pretty fast at this level.
Soren is a manual fight of you want to max your dmg. I'd use warek too but not right now, silvina is better at this stage

silent terrace
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@gilded fractal i start using warek when overall my hero is 141, so i am not sure if u can reach 5.5
but reaching 3 m should be possible

and yes , fighting soren, you want to NOT get CHARM,
therefore you want 1 of your hero stay at soren's behind
only hero that can do soren without the need to manual is grezhul in my knowledge

gilded fractal
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@light elm no i mean with thane! also, should i use shemira or estrilda for estrildas atk boost and energy regen? @silent terrace hmm okay ill keep it in mind for the future.

trim dock
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Halp

light elm
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@gilded fractal I only suggest thane because your silvina isn't built. She's much better at this. And yes, soren fights are manual if you want max dps

@trim dock with what?

silent terrace
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@rocky wasp you dont have brutus and your level is kinda low
i dont think u can win with this level
but dont be pessimist, let's try our best

i believe you have lvl 61 x 8 heroes, 5 highest is manually level up , and 3 other is from resonating crystal right?
if you level up more than 5 heroes, immediately reset the 6th 7th 8th and give the resource to saveas

and now talk composition
saveas, golus, hogan, estrilda , mirael is best one for now
pos4 should be saveas, he want to kill that spider lady
pos2 should be your main tank which is hogan
pos5 should be another tank to help which is golus
pos1 estrilda
pos3 is mirael

AFK rewards, give to saveas, make him lvl 81 while the rest stuck at 61 is fine

trim dock
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@light elm A line up

light elm
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@trim dock try lucius nemora athalia belinda/saveas khasos/hogan

wheat patio
frigid portal
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Use more lightbearers since you're up against a lot of Maulers.

light elm
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@wheat patio overlevel shemira for now

frigid portal
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@somber hemlock Belinda will be your best friend

wheat patio
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@light elm like level her more?
@frigid portal would you recommend I reset one of them and give the levels to a lightbearer?

frigid portal
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Do you have access to the Resonating Crystal?

silent terrace
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@wheat patio saveas golus skreg numisu + hogan
position them anywhere, as long saveas pos3 should be fine
and please reset shemira and nemora and make your saveas lvl 81
the rest can have same level

light elm
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@somber hemlock try saveas bot and arden top

wheat patio
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I do

somber hemlock
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@light elm alright

frigid portal
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The Resonating Crystal will be your best friend. Don't bother resetting anyone

somber hemlock
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u can reset to go above the lvl cap

wheat patio
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@somber hemlock how does that work?

silent terrace
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@somber hemlock if you have arden L+ you will pass this stage using RNG's help
pos1 lyca, pos2 brutus, pos3 saveas , pos4 arden, pos5 nemora
the only thing you need is
Lvl 141 arden [ not 140 ], lvl 121 minimal for brutus arden nemora , lvl 160 saveas with best gear
easy skyrocket those chapter as long RNG helps you

opal rain
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Hey this is my account , cant beat this boss fight but i might be able when i get the gear from day five reward and put it on my tank

somber hemlock
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lets say u have 5 legendary heros those will max at 140 and ur mains are elite+ - elite ur elite+ will max at 120 but if u lvl the legendarys and put the elites on reso the elites will reach 140

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@silent terrace ye i would do that but rng not loving me :c

wheat patio
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ohhh I see I see @somber hemlock

@silent terrace does it matter that saveas is only rare?

silent terrace
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@wheat patio as of now, you can't have more than lvl 100 heroes, so rarity of saveas still have no problem on your case
but as you progress, focus on getting saveas L+ , be it level, rarity, or gear it will helps a lot
saveas is best solo carry until campaign's enemy have lvl 160+

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@somber hemlock if you're talking RNG in battle, you playing with wilder means abuse cc
abuse cc means abuse that retry button ** as long as you have putted your heroes on the best possible position **

if you're talking RNG on summon, yea we feel you bro ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale kettle
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@sullen lava Iโ€™m way late because I got busy with RL shit, but thank you so much! I nailed 10-4 with the lineup you gave me. Props man, thanks!

sullen lava
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@pale kettle gz broidabella

cedar meteor
silent terrace
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@cedar meteor um reset belinda give 141 to arden
pos1 brutus
pos2 lyca
pos5 saveas
pos3 nemora
Pos4 arden

keep retry button until you win, if you're tired, give it a day, give level to saveas until he's 160 using afk reward and you should win some day if RNG helps you

cedar meteor
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KK I will try that, thanks

velvet cliff
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i did it with saveas/belinda/brutus/lucius/fawkes

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and they are more low than urs

cedar meteor
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I tried that, but my Brutus and Lucius gets destroyed so not sure how you did it

sudden hound
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Stuck on 9-38 for 3 days. Any advice? Lol I have almost given up. Will be 5-6 days before I get enough dust to 121 anyone else

velvet cliff
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in front of saveas put ur brutus and behind ur saveas

marble stump
silent terrace
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RNG sometime carry you lazy , what @velvet cliff says can possibly helps too
fawkes must catch enemy saveas, and theoritically you can win
and give best gear to lucius to guarantee he use shield before he die

somber hemlock
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@silent terrace both haha xD

cedar meteor
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Maybe it's the Fawkes ๐Ÿค”

velvet cliff
silent terrace
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@marble stump replace estrilda
grezhul brutus tank

marble stump
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Allright, thanks :D I was thinking Ferael not good enough, but I guess 4 grave is better

silent terrace
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@marble stump TBH 4grave + brutus is better than what u mentioned
but i'm not saying they are the best for your case, i'm just answering your question, as their level are still considered low therefore no point using them as your main

before you meet enemy's campaign hero lvl 160++ , using saveas as your main line up is still the best in my opinion

marble stump
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Hmm i see yeah. Just started and kinda wanna build what I'll use for long time

crisp whale
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Stuck on 11-16, and I donโ€™t have the heroes to get Brutus to L/L+; suggestions?

strong swallow
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I have a full faction team of light ppl should I still push in Brutus? Stuck on some random level full of grave born..

scarlet kraken
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@crisp whale I would swap the positions of savaes and Belinda.. you need to kill the enemy savaes first. Also maybe change nemora for arden and hopefully rng snare the right enemies

crisp whale
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@scarlet kraken thank you, I will try that!

pale kettle
scarlet kraken
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@strong swallow brutus is really good try to get him ascended when u can. use your wilders to beat the full graveborn team

median star
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can anyone help? stuck in 11-26, canโ€™t even kill enemy saveas. should i just wait for a couple of days or any suggestion?

scarlet kraken
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@pale kettle post what 8-32 looks like itโ€™s hard to help when we canโ€™t see what youโ€™re facing. @median star you have no real cc, I would use arden even though heโ€™s a wilder vs maulers, his snare is op. Hopefully he rngโ€™s savaes

strong swallow
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@scarlet kraken This was my first Brutus ever and I'm starting to slow down getting gems, but I'll defo push my other high ascended maulers at him if ever possible. I'll try the wilders right away!

prime vapor
silent terrace
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@crisp whale your case probably should be fine if u replace nemora with fawkes, even elite fawkes will do the trick
as long fawkes catch enemy saveas

shy mirage
crisp whale
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@silent terrace thanks! I haven't used Fawkes a lot; would his main purpose here be reducing Saveas's haste?

scarlet kraken
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To put him away so he canโ€™t att

silent terrace
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@median star dont ever try kill enemy saveas in the beginning
you must focus to kill that morvus
morvus barrage slows your own saveas
so first priority is him, therefore put saveas at pos 5

dont put shemira on your line up, shemira is dps , saveas is dps, both dps in one place never works
fawkes will be do better to give you better bonus , and as long your fawkes get enemy saveas, that should do the trick, can also try belinda if you frustate your fawkes doesn't want to catch enemy saveas

lucius can't be pos 1, he will just die before shield, perhaps thane will do better at pos1, lucius must use shield on this case

pale kettle
cedar meteor
silent terrace
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@crisp whale fawkes as long can CATCH him at the beginning, will mean your tank wont die too fast
therefore you have a lot of time on 5 vs 4 condition for 7second
since you use saveas as well, that condition will be easily become 5 vs 3 and the next few second become 5 vs 4 because enemy saveas come back
then wait for enemy saveas to use his healing [ the green buff around him ], then your immediately fawkes use his ult

velvet cliff
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@cedar meteor GG

silent terrace
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@cedar meteor i didnt help much on this one, all goes to @velvet cliff , OP fawkes xD

median star
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@scarlet kraken thanks for the input will try@silent terrace i tried using fawkes, he captured morvus instead of saveas, i will try with other formation cause anyone i put in pos 1 will die easily. anyway thanks for the help, iโ€™ll try other formations๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

cedar meteor
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Had to buy Fawkes from shop to make him Elite+ and one enhance on Brutus' armor to last long enough to cast ult

strong swallow
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oof no luck, i'll keep leveling up I guess T_T"

shy mirage
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@pale kettle You need a faction bonus. Try replacing a non Lightbearer with Athalia

median star
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@silent terrace anyone i put in pos 3 also died easily๐Ÿ™ƒ

pale kettle
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I'll try it now

shy mirage
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Anyway can someone help me? :D

silent terrace
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@shy mirage shemira pre 161 can't tank shit
she will just die, dont let her tank hahaha

crisp whale
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@silent terrace thanks for the explanation! so from what i'm hearing, fawkes has a similar role to tasi? I'm using him right now, unfortunately his survivability is super low... is there any way i can position him so he survives long enough to use the confine ability?

shy mirage
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Lol I see ๐Ÿ˜… . What do you suggest @silent terrace ?

median star
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@silent terrace managed to pass, thanks for the help๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

silent terrace
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@crisp whale fawkes compared to tasi on this case, should be better , as long he catch enemy saveas his job is basically done..
if u can use fawkes's ult is considered even better, but nonetheless, as long he can catch enemy saveas, that's already 7s, 5 vs 4 should be enough ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

thin vector
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Sucks writing a message with attachments, but the images end up being over 8mb and your message disappears. SIGH

pale kettle
crisp whale
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@silent terrace that makes sense, thanks again! :)

shy mirage
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@pale kettle hahaha no prob

silent terrace
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@shy mirage thane instead of shemira is best for you buddy
as for fawkes/belinda/raine, i believe u want to replace him with brutus

thane is your main dps anywhere at pos3/4/5 doesn't matter
brutus main tank pos 1
lucius should be on pos2

raine/belinda helps with thane since they both increase thane's crit, at some point
as for fawkes, he is GUARANTEED to win against anyone who use saveas as their main damage
i am saveas's main damage team, everytime i fight LB team, if i see fawkes , i will not fight them

but if enemy doesn't have saveas or shemira on GB team, your fawkes value drop a lot
therefore i will leave it to you to chose

raine / belinda / fawkes , which 1 should be removed here xD

thin vector
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https://imgur.com/a/yhuH5Xt

Stuck on 6-24. I'm assuming I just need levels, but could you advice on whether I'm focusing the wrong units, as well. I could have an e+ vedan or e+ silvina, but not both unless I wait. Full roster in album.

unreal flare
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Anyone know what I can possibly do to finish this godforsaken level of a game, itโ€™s been like 5 days

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@thin vector get rid of numisu, use shemira or a e+ silvina and you should be good to go, if it still doesnโ€™t work shove all your xp into saveas

silent terrace
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@thin vector enemy brutus absorb your saveas damage, that's bad idea
try change saveas with nemora, will result better damage
if still lose, change nemora with any lightbringer to get more bonus therefore your saveas get more damage and other hero get more health
last , WAREK is SHIT pre 161
change him if possible as he will just die

unreal flare
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And yes warek is absolute garbage donโ€™t use him

thin vector
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Who should I use instead for my front line, based on my roster?

unreal flare
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Hogan ulmus, hogan athelia would be good, as long as it isnโ€™t warek

thin vector
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Ulmus against a mauler team tho? He gets eaten alive

shy mirage
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@silent terrace I've been using Thane in my lineup before. But he's still at Elite tier, and because of that, he does no damage and no survivability โ˜น๏ธ ๏ธ. Do you think it's a good idea that I should run full Lightbearer for the faction bonus? +25% HP and ATK must be really useful

misty wharf
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@unreal flare donโ€™t use lighting hero. Use same elements.

dusky hazel
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Which characters should I use for this fight? I used the cart to make almost all characters lv 1 so I could level the characters needed for this, also I'm kinda new to the game so I'm sorry about the lack of characters. (I can level 4 characters to 60 and 1 to 61 if that's needed to help)

misty wharf
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Lighting hero. I guess.

silent terrace
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@shy mirage without brutus, i believe you will die as u dont have main tank, lucius can't main tank, he died too fast, he can't cast shield all team die, but i might be wrong, try it first maybe
without thane, i dont believe u can have damage at LB team

i dont think it matters if it's elite, as long he can get leveled up using resonance will still be better than what you show just now

also when i say main dps, meaning you gave all resource [ best level best gear , and possibly in the future best rarity ] to him
and since you dont use shemira you need to reset her , to make sure your 4 hero outside of belinda have the same level, only belinda is 141, while the rest have the same level

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@dusky hazel cant see your hero pool, show it please

dusky hazel
silent terrace
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@dusky hazel
reset your arden , he's still shit at this lvl

4 heroes + saveas
4 heroes ALL must be lvl 41 , you decide which is the 4 heroes according this criteria at below,
while the remaining resources give to saveas

hogan is a must, estrilda is a must
the remaining 2, choose 2 from fawkes / angelo / ankihra

position :
pos2 should be any mage that silvina target
pos5 should be your saveas
pos1 should hogan
pos3 the other hero you chose that is not targeted by silvina
pos4 estrilda

good luck on winning

shy mirage
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@silent terrace I use Dura's Call on Lucius so he can cast his ult early. Maybe I'll replace Raine since she has no CC (except for that one useless skill). I'll need Fawkes for CC and Belinda for a second DPS hero in case Thane dies ๐Ÿ˜€

silent terrace
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@shy mirage sounds good, best of luck friend, LB team really performs well 200-220 as my guild master chapter campaign is far higher than other people same level with him
lower level such as your case, wont perform much, but think of it as investment perhaps xD

also, in your case, you have a lot of LB with good rarity, so probably you are on the right track to invest on LB's path xD

wide dove
silent terrace
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@wide dove i guess.. although i would suggest saveas if you have instead of fawkes , even if it's blue rarity, will perform better

wide dove
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Ok, tx

shy mirage
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@silent terrace Thanks for the help. I hope I can defend successfully this time in arena. I'll let you know if I've defended or if I've been still getting crushed by enemies in a row ๐Ÿ˜.

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Btw I still have no gold on upgrading heroes lol

silent terrace
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@shy mirage brutus pos1, lucius pos2 perhaps better, you want to make brutus low health ASAP, to get more damage as pos1 receive damage from 3 hero and pos2 receive damage from 2 hero

woven epoch
wraith pawn
hardy fog
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Then again I have 34 arena tickets..........hmmm

fossil blaze
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Just got safiya is she any good? Is she better than numisu?

hardy fog
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She sounds interesting to me

grim hatch
silent terrace
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@grim hatch reset shemira, get it to lvl 120
so does arden,
now give saveas lvl 141
should do better result than current situation

not guaranteed will win, but should give better result for sure
in addition, make brutus at pos1, and lucius at pos2 so brutus eat isabela damage, not lucius

junior hound
pale kettle
rotund girder
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@junior hound yeah, tasi lyca nemora is actually a beast lineup

junior hound
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Got it, thanks!! @rotund girder

grim hatch
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lol its ok got it @silent terrace by switching up brutus with lucius

sacred relic
pale kettle
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Hey people, currently in 8-25 with enough to make L, Shemira,Saveas and one from Lucius/Belinda/Thane

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Which one would you propose Lucius or Belinda?

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I was thinking of Lucius, but not really sure though

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no Brutus yet ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

thorn moth
proper lodge
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I know I am low level, but I could any advice someone has to give, I am stuck at 4-36. My chars are 51 and 50, boss and all mobs are 57. All content is on cooldown, and King's Tower is same position of much higher level mobs.
Here is my available summons:

hearty seal
hardy fog
pale kettle
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@hearty seal click the clover at the top left sometime. You gotta get 3 of the same faction on your team at least. I'd try replacing saveas or nemora for vedan.

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@hardy fog I think Mirael should be in the middle. Try switching Belinda between the top and bottom and see what happens. Chapter 6 is pretty hard in general, compared to 5

fallen olive
pale kettle
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@proper lodge click the clover at the top left of the battle screen sometime and read through it. Try switching out saveas with Ira. That's not the best setup and it costs 20 gems to test, but till you draw some more units it might be the best available

hardy fog
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mireal gets one shot at start..this level so hard

proper lodge
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@pale kettle to get the extra buff, ok I will give it a shot, thank you

fallen olive
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Yeah saveas is bas before 61 because he doesnt regen and just kills himsele

rotund girder
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@pale kettle the extra buff isn't mandatory at all

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Like, removing saveas for a lil buff isn't really a good idea imho ^^

wet sonnet
pale kettle
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@rotund girder in my experience, it's mandatory. Not a big deal to disagree.

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@wet sonnet same advice I've been giving for awhile. What happens if you switch out shemira and Arden with Belinda and Raine?

rotund girder
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@pale kettle hm no, not when it kills a synergy with the strongest heroes u have, maybe you never had to break the buff but sometimes it's better.

pale kettle
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@rotund girder his saveas is rare+. It's not his strongest unit, and I don't see how it synergizes with his team.

thorn moth
ember nebula
thorn moth
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I i need one more rare saveas to make him L aswellllll

frank dune
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Yo why is 14-12 eating me alive

pale kettle
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@thorn moth don't consume Belinda as fodder. If you're using Hogan as a tank, I'd wait on making Bel legendary

frank dune
thorn moth
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I got 3 hogan E+ and one Belinda E+

frank dune
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Yo Shane help a brother out xD

thorn moth
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So my plan was to consume my 2 spare Hogans

pale kettle
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@thorn moth make Bel legendary then. Imo at least

thorn moth
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Alrighttt thanks mate

pale kettle
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@frank dune I haven't even got that far into chapter 14 lol I'm on 14-4

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@frank dune do you have mythic tank gear? Only reason I get away with using elite ezizh is by putting two mythics on him. You can nab mythics at 40% off on floor 3 of lab (if you didn't know)

fallen olive
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@wet sonnet pump up that saveas, 147 is rookie level

frank dune
pale kettle
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@frank dune the red stuff :p

vestal geyser
frank dune
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Didnโ€™t know about that so thank you. I think Iโ€™m just under leveled

pale kettle
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@frank dune idk, it seems like you should switch up your hero lineup somehow but I don't see a clear answer. Ezizh works wonders for me in 4:1, but you've got a Lucius and Shemira already so I feel like he should be changed to someone else. I try to run nothing under 3:2 faction bonus wise tbh

frank dune
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Omg I have a lot to learn because idk what youโ€™re saying in terms of terms

pale kettle
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@frank dune click the clover at the top left and give it a read

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@vestal geyser try switching estrilda to either a graveborn or a Wilder. You'll get some bonuses that way. I can't see your hero list, else I'd recommend something

frank dune
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Hmm ๐Ÿค” interesting - if I use ezizh then no other faction will apply right

frozen jolt
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hey if anyone above chapter 9 can help me with my lineup dm me, better than msging here

pale kettle
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@frank dune I use 4:1 lightbearers/ Ezizh, so I get both the benefits of 4 lights and the 30% defense from Ezizh

fallen olive
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Or you could just screenshot the matchup and your team and if people got suggestions they'll tell ๐Ÿค” @frozen jolt

frozen jolt
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ye im trying to figure out who to level up to legfendary + and shit

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and am bouncing back and forth between chats so itll be easier in a dm xd!

vestal geyser
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@pale kettle i only have those wilders haha

pale kettle
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@vestal geyser and graveborn?

vestal geyser
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only them :c

pale kettle
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@vestal geyser I see a rare+ graveborn. I'm not talking about just elites

vestal geyser
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i can afford nemora in like 3 hours but hate waiting lol

pale kettle
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@vestal geyser if that's the case, using shemira as a tank and replacing estrilda with nemora might work

vestal geyser
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yea i thought the same too

pale kettle
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still stuck on 9-20 even with the lineup @pale rover recommended.

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iโ€™m getting closer, but i canโ€™t take out a single one of their heroes

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Did you swap gear too? Your hero levels are close but your rating feels low

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iโ€™ve been enhancing all of the gear on these heroes just to pass this stage, with no avail

hardy fog
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I just reset all my heroes to 1, would anyone mind suggesting a lineup for last half of stage 6 and onwards? (6-28 currently)

unique vapor
hardy fog
grizzled galleon
unique vapor
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@still oar help dad

still oar
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Lyca luc
Arden nem sav @unique vapor

unique vapor
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thanks

hardy fog
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anyone?

still oar
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You can't replace Arden with tasi+call

pale kettle
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@hardy fog tbh, I'm pretty biased towards lightbearers. I want to say Hogan/Lucius/Belinda and then possibly tasi lyca, but your Lucius is elite and Hogan isn't great. I'm kinda iffy

unique vapor
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not work D:

hardy fog
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@pale kettle Yeah I'm not getting very much luck

pale kettle
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@grizzled galleon you should get three of a faction at least. Lucius/Belinda/Raine is a good combo. Then a Fawkes and a tank brings you to at least 4:1

hardy fog
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Apparently my estrilda is gone, and if only I could get grezhul...........

hoary terrace
hardy fog
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What about belinda+, Hogan+, lucius, vedan+ and shemira...or do I NEED a support for stages6+?

still oar
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@unique vapor try replace Arden with tasi+ call
Luc lyca
Nemora tasi sav.
You need some head banging for this one

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You can try shemira but I don't think tasi and luc can survive while waiting Shem to ult

pale kettle
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@hoary terrace replace Silvina with Raine. Saveas or nemora might need to be swapped out too but I don't see your full hero list

hoary terrace
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@pale kettle but ill try that out

loud scroll
pale kettle
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@hoary terrace you have the units to make the squad I use. Lucius/Ezizh frontline, Belinda/Raine/Fawkes backline. Ezizh needs some good gear to be viable at elite though

hoary terrace
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Okey, thank you. Imma try that out

grim hatch
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@loud scroll get saveas to 120 instead of silvina, then try out saveas,golus,lyca,nemora and arden. what you want to do is kill niru first if possible

pale kettle
grim hatch
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@pale kettle where does that line up help you to in campaign now ?

loud scroll
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Thanks Iโ€™ll give it a go

fossil moth
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Who should I make 140 next? My current main team up to 11-24 is Lucius, saveas, tasi, Arden, nemora. I would say I bring Arden next to 140. Lucius seems to be tanky enough atm.

pale kettle
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@grim hatch I'm in 14-4

hoary terrace
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@pale kettle thats awesome, ty

grim hatch
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@fossil moth if you can get arden to 141 thats 3 roots :)
@pale kettle you have 2 mythics xD no surprise you're at chap 14 xD

pale kettle
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@grim hatch for the record, I wrecked the arena team you see that's higher ascended lol though that's because my opponent doesn't know how to use faction bonuses

grim hatch
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did you use that same lineup for chapter 11 ? idk if I want to give up my L+ saveas and Epic brutus for Epic Ezizh and L belinda
I'm using brutus, saveas, belinda, lucius and fawkes right now

pale kettle
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I think I was using 3-2 lights/wilders at that time because I didn't draw a Ezizh yet. Imo you should give it a shot. You'd go from 15% bonus to 15% atk, 20% hp, 30% defense. And imo Brutus doesn't synth well with Lucius

grim hatch
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might give it a try later on, my gear sucks tho. still using epic+ gears except for agi heroes with full legendary equipments

hoary terrace
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@pale kettle is it worth to get raine to legendary then?

pale kettle
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Mine is still a base elite lol it's only worth it if your Raine is dying. Otherwise it's better to keep ascending Bel or Lucius

fresh star
pale kettle
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@fresh star shemira/Ezizh frontline, Belinda, Raine, (thane or estrilda) maybe. Don't see many faction combos available

fresh star
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Yea my ascended heroes are all over the place

tribal loom
rugged vessel
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@tribal loom switch athalia for vedan and Brutus for any E+. Then you can level your first 4 to 140, and the last to 120. Your blue units (resonating) will then be lv120 instead of 100. You can still use athalia and brutus for fights and they will even be a bit stronger than currently

tribal loom
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ah okay, thank you<33

sacred relic
pale kettle
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@sacred relic I'd replace vedan with morvus, elite Mirael when you make one, or some mauler.

granite wigeon
pale kettle
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Best lineup?

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@granite wigeon sometimes it's easier to see who to ascend if you look at each faction one at a time. Merging your three rare+ maulers to elite golus will let you make a second elite+ golus. You can use this unit as fodder for another to become legendary at some point

granite wigeon
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I just don't wanna get rid of anyone I may need later

shut harness
pale kettle
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Heroes available as rares generally are never wasted. Saveas and mirael are pretty good legendary tiers though

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As a rule of thumb, don't use ascended tier heroes as fodder

shut harness
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im really stuck on this leve, i was just wondering if anyone could help

pale kettle
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@shut harness I'm looking at your heroes, trying to figure out a way for you to get a faction advantage. You gotta replace either saveas or khasos with a Wilder

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Or Hogan with a mauler. That'd probably be better

shut harness
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isn't hogan a lightbearer though?

pale kettle
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Messed up a but, replacing khasos with a lightbearer wouldn't help

shut harness
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6-12 has 4 maulers so wouldnt it be worse to have more wilders

pale kettle
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On the battle screen, tap the clover at the top left. I'm trying to get a faction bonus. A Wilder tank would be pretty bad, so we gotta replace Hogan

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This might be stupid but change out Hogan for numisu real quick and see how long numisu lasts. Mauler mages have fairly good defense so wanna see where that brings us

shut harness
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since hogan is a lightbearer, which means they have factional advantage over maulers, wouldn't it be the best scenario to have a lightbearer tank?

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swapping out hogan w/numisu doesn't make a diff

pale kettle
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@shut harness lightbearers deal more damage to maulers, but maulers don't deal less damage to lightbearers. Hogan's damage is fairly negligible anyways

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Yeah, didn't think there was a good chance of that working. You might have to AFK a bit and wait for more heroes.

rugged vessel
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@sacred relic probably Brutus and golus or Estrilda front, Saveas Belinda and mirael in back. And redo your levels once you get the resonating crystal so you have Belinda and 4 Elite+ as your pentagram units.

sacred relic
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@rugged vessel Thanks man!

rugged vessel
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Didn't see you only have mirael at R+, maybe Angelo in back instead. Can be pretty flexible with the resonating crystal system fortunately. You're probably best off with a 3 2 faction split regardless though

fallen olive
rugged vessel
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Try getting Fawkes from gladiator coins, his CC is helpful for cheesing the RNG. Arden too

fallen olive
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Lightbringer wont relly fit on though

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Can get it down to khazoz and saveas with kaz but they do too much for my saveas to sustain

pale kettle
proven rune
hollow harness
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@proven rune did you try numisu mid and saveas where seirus stands ? There are 3 ST enemy heroes, totems can help

muted forge
chrome cradle
north cairn
proven rune
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@hollow harness saveas doesn't last a second if i put him on frontline

tame moth
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I beg to differ

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He is really good for taking out a niru f u put him frontline

oak raven
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Is it worth ascending my lucius to leg? I wouldn't level him past 120 still as I am trying to get thane to 141. I would lose my elite+ hogan and have to use an elite estrilda

crimson shale
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@oak raven ascend lucias with hogan and morvus, donโ€™t waste raine because she synergies really well with Belinda as u can see she makes a big difference with Belinda

shut parrot
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Saveus literally one-two shots anyone input in front of him and then my whole team dies. Help!

hardy fog
glossy bane
shut parrot
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@hardy fog No point in having second Belinda on crystal. Get her to legend soon, she would of carried you better than leg+ hogan try Lucius/Hogan Belinda tasi lycq

inland kite
hardy fog
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Tasi and lyca? 2 supports? I mean I'll try it so sick of this lvl

shut parrot
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@glossy bane try switching Belinda to bottom and swap maulers for thoran and shem and put Fawkes top

inland kite
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Never mind I seemed to have gotten it

oak raven
glossy bane
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@shut parrot That worked, Shem stopped Mirael. ty

last granite
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@oak raven you can make arden leg using ira or ogi

shut parrot
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@oak raven with ogi, ira it's then leg+ him

oak raven
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Is it worth it tho? Would it be better to save for nemora/eironn? See my edit. I don't use wilder currently

hardy fog
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Warek, skreg and golus I can make one of them L should I?

shut parrot
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Warek

oak raven
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Those are all pretty garbage tier @hardy fog

hardy fog
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Yeah thought so

shut parrot
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Warek is used in the championship tourments tho...

oak raven
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That's super late game lol. Most of us are early game still

hardy fog
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I started this game 4 days ago, sorry for all the questions

inland kite
oak raven
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@inland kite have you tried delelving one and using 161 shem to carry? Also you should trade out your lightbearer tanks for others as their graveborn will shred them

last granite
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@oak raven I'm not so sure about eironn since he's a new hero and we don't know whether he's good or bad. If you dont currently need any cc then dont rush for ascension.

shut parrot
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@oak raven you'll have some more wilders soon enough to get another elite+ and get any eleite tier Wilder to legend and use Arden to mythic them

last granite
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@inland kite is this the last stage? How much stage left do you need to beat?

inland kite
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Its labryinth

shut parrot
last granite
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@inland kite yeah i know, how much "flag" yet left?

inland kite
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And i am trying for shem but they're all shredded no matter what

crimson shale
oak raven
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@inland kite try different tanks and formations. Exit battle if you are dying too much. Will reset

inland kite
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I'm trying different formations but I'm not very good at the game so I dont know how to play at making one a

oak raven
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@shut parrot you might just need to get a lucky cc or have an assassin help tank a bit

last granite
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@inland kite okay that's still quite a lot if you're already having trouble. Maybe try

Athalia
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
Saveas

Either you kill shem first or niru

civic mauve
last granite
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@civic mauve yes, thoran can take damage better

inland kite
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That one killed 2 of them and the rest rolled over me .-.

pale kettle
civic mauve
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@inland kite should I switch anyone else from ther?

inland kite
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Ugh I didnt press exit fast enough and lost the team

last granite
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@inland kite oh no you lost lucius :(

It's 5:3 you should have won just by numbers alone. But it's not going to be easy afterwards without lucius

inland kite
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Yeah I have to get Dura tears

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I got lucius back

fallen olive
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@pale kettle Kill them before they root, high damage carry like saveas helps

inland kite
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I end up always picking the wrong one so...

last granite
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@inland kite I usually pick whichever has the lower attack rating on 3rd floor.

But how's your relic? I think you're choosing the wrong ones if you're having trouble in labyrinth

inland kite
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I've had no luck with relics for real

hardy fog
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@shut parrot thank you soooo much that was easy with 2 supports

shut parrot
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๐Ÿ‘

olive swift
inland kite
last granite
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@olive swift put athalia in front of niru, he needs to be killed asap

olive swift
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(Which one is niru?)

rotund girder
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I think he/she meant vedan

last granite
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@inland kite okay if you still has problem my secret trick is to throw away weak heroes to weaken the enemy first and then attack them with your main team

olive swift
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So swap lucius for Athalia

inland kite
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That's what I figured... still having s lot of problems, it's just my bad luck with this place

olive swift
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Can safely say that did not end well :D

rotund girder
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Idk, the main problem in ur team @olive swift is that u don't have enough damages :/

last granite
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@rotund girder right sorry, I always swap their name

@olive swift how close you are to winning with your main team?

rotund girder
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Don't u have any saveas or mirael to carry u until high level?

pale kettle
olive swift
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Way away, can't get saveas too high atm idt

last granite
rotund girder
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@pale kettle vedan and silvina, never use non L+ heroes to ascend

pale kettle
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So not double Vedan?

upper path
olive swift
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Yup can't even get him above blue :D

rotund girder
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@pale kettle oh nvm, u can double vedan, didn't see the other one

pale kettle
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That's better right

olive swift
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Actually nvm I have a purple +1 one, will put him in the crystal and see what happens

inland kite
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I think I'll wait until I can get another tear

last granite
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@upper path she's an angsty teenager. Whoever she attacks first, put them in fronline so saveas can attack silvina. Preferably in seirus position, swap lyca and saveas position

olive swift
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Tanks die before he does his special

upper path
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She murders both Saveas and Arden within the first 17 seconds. Nothing much can be done after that.

last granite
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@inland kite next time choose fire/icebringer, sun/moonstone, haste, whichever helps you heal and gain energy fast, cocoon, and also anything that helps you attack them (arrow from sky, random thunder)

ivory walrus
willow spruce
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Why is 9-39 so hard o.O

ivory walrus
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dont even complain. i cant even beat 9-36

hardy fog
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I can trash my vedan and silvinas E+ and make my shemira L is it worth? Then maybe put her in lineup in place for Belinda (only epic)

last granite
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@upper path how close are you to winning with your current team?

willow spruce
inland kite
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Yeah... I had one of those I think Once

upper path
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I managed to get to another stage. Even in rerolls elites don't get handled out to me

fallen token
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What should my lineup be?

last granite
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@ivory walrus try

Fawkes
Brutus
Arden
Seirus
Saveas

inland kite
ivory walrus
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oof nope. i cant have seirus in front line. he dies in 2 hits. might as well have him in backline and hope he keeps knocking people up

last granite
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@ivory walrus but you cant put cc on frontline too, at least put anyone with high dps as semi tank

ivory walrus
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ill switch to saveas in front line

last granite
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@ivory walrus try again like 100x and pray the rng god is with you

ivory walrus
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nope vedan is always left alive with saveas

inland kite
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Any suggestions with mine?

ivory walrus
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frontline belinda against a saveas >.<

last granite
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@ivory walrus then either you enhance someone gear or you level someone.

@inland kite I am not that far yet but lemme see what I can do

ivory walrus
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ill wait for guild war to end and if i get lucky with my pulls i can ascend arden to leg+. just need any blue wilder

inland kite
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Arden sucks for me rip

last granite
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@inland kite whoever gives you the least dps between mirael, belinda and saveas, swap them with a cc (try all combination, you have the holy trinity and fawkes too). I'd suggest lyca first since she can give that haste. That's crucial

ivory walrus
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question

last granite
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@ember nebula ascension rules.

  1. Never fodder ascended heroes.
  2. If you dont need to ascend anyone (you have no trouble progressing), dont rush in case you have better heroes to ascend.
pale kettle
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Who can I change out for Athalia? I just pulled her. Or should I just leave this team alone? Is it already good?

last granite
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@ember nebula also a lot of people would suggest to ascend saveas and shemira whenever possible as they're hard carry

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@pale kettle Athalia doesn't really give high dps but she's great against a troublesome cc (like arden). If your team has no trouble progressing you dont need to swap anyone with athalia

pale kettle
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I'm doing fine at the moment so I guess I'll stay with this for a bit. Thanks!

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Is she a tank? Maybe I can replace Seirus

ember nebula
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@last granite i am stuck on 7-40 lol

last granite
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@pale kettle not really, pretty much people use her to stun the most troublesome enemies so the other can do their ultimate

pale kettle
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I see. I'll save her as an ace up my sleeve then. Thank you again!!! belindakiss

civic mauve
last granite
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@ember nebula you can ascend belinda using 2 hogan (if you dont need him for tank). You can also ascend silvina using niru or vedan whichever you like

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@pale kettle god speed soldier idabella

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@civic mauve if you rely heavily on faction bonus it's pretty hard to make a comp. Thoran is a great tank so it's worth trying to fight with him first since estrilda doesn't do much in regards of her skill.

ember nebula
glad cipher
last granite
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@glad cipher stage screenshot please? so the other could help too

glad cipher
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Mostly saveas is the problem

last granite
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@glad cipher how close are you to winning with this comp?

glad cipher
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Well I can kill around 3 enemies with rainee / silvina combo

pale flint
uneven glen
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I canโ€™t upload screenies

last granite
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@glad cipher does lucius able to use his ultimate? If not then you can try switching him with golus, he's better at taking damage imo

uneven glen
glad cipher
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@last granite Ye he's able to but I silvina dies to early and without her I have 0 damage to kill saveas

last granite
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@pale flint line up are usually 2 tanks + dps / 2 tanks + dps + cc.
I recommend frontline hogan/brutus golus
Backline belinda shemira tasi

Although backline could def change depending on the enemies

uneven glen
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@last granite is my lineup good (top line second pic) or should I assend?

last granite
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@uneven glen the LB? No dont ascend. Also unrelated to lineup please go to #classic-questions

uneven glen
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Ahh okay ty, sorry

pale flint
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Ive been running mainly hogan, brutus; tasi, vurk, shemira but sometimes hit major walls. Wasn't sure if i shoild be focusing on others

pallid marlin
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Hmmm have 5 141 so all the crystal heroes are 141 or ascent Estrella with a hogan and have only 4 heroes that can hit 141.

last granite
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@glad cipher I was considering that too since she focus on 1 person and can easily be attacked. You can try switching her with another mage (mirael or belinda) they work well with raine

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@uneven glen its okay, your lineup looks good, if you're ever stuck try switching raine with a cc since her role is just to buff others attacks

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@pale flint no comp are the ultimate comp, they always change even if its just one hero.
You can keep your main team and change them here and there if you hit major walls.
Also try to level up shemira and saveas as a side project since they're hard carry in later game

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@pallid marlin please add screenshot and for questions unrelated to lineup go to #classic-questions. More people could help you there since this channel is focused mostly on lineup

teal glade
#

So I'm feeding 2 maulers into the third because i want another leg and I want to do more legend quests.

And before you go "but sir...double-u tee eff mate?" Yes I know it isn't optimal but I'm committed to yolo. Wondering which is the least inoptimal since saveas is obvs good early and skregg is a mythic tier.
Should note i often don't even use saveas given how good my other dps options are now. I just dk much about skregg so yea.

Thoughts on which?

fallen olive
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dont feek skregg

last granite
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@teal glade if you're going yolo then saveas, you're still a long way from mythic tier. Also #classic-questions

fallen olive
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Saveas only shines when you level him above the rest. equally leveled saveas is kinda meh

teal glade
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We should really clarify in the rules area what lineup defines as then. Because whoever ascends is going into my general lineup. Space's pinned messages imply general lineup questions are allowed. You guys should update those pins.

still oar
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Ascencion is acceptable here

teal glade
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Alright cheers. Side note. Epic name.

still oar
shut harness
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i've tried 6-12 nearly 50+ times with different formations and then i go back to my original one which i've tried 20+ times

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and for some reason it finally works wtf

fallen olive
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have had passes after hundreds of tries

pale rover
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@still oar I actually don't answer ascension questions here as it's not directly lineup related. It could be consequential, but not asking for an actual lineup answer. Just which hero is best to get, basically. I'll ask Space to make it clearer.

still oar
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๐Ÿ‘

visual canopy
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Anyone find a btter team comp for me

pale rover
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@visual canopy
3-2 Team Bonus
Brutus Lucius/Hogan
Belinda Saveas Fawkes

3-1-1 Team Bonus
Brutus Golus
Saveas Shemira Tasi

gleaming jay
visual canopy
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Thank you dang factions being good

pale rover
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@gleaming jay You're going to need to show your hero list.

inland kite
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im experimenting with different formations which is why my teams are like this

leaden temple
still oar
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Prob
Bru lyca
Tasi with call khasos and sav

inland kite
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oh btw im on 11-32

waxen lantern
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Do you have Fawkes?

still oar
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121 Shem prob will help too

inland kite
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me? yeah i have fawkes

waxen lantern
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Try swapping Arden with fawkes

inland kite
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im not using arden atm

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kind of all over the place as ive been stuck at this for a few hours

sleek kindle
true coral
inland kite
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guess ill ask later and see if anyone can help xD

pale rover
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@true coral
Lucius Shemira
Nemora Lyca Arden?

true coral
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That's what I was thinking

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But was also looking at Fawkes

pale rover
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@true coral That's a good team for what you have. Has good defense, damage, and crowd control. If you want Fawkes..

Lucius Shemira
Belinda Fawkes and Raine

Lucius Shemira
Belinda Fawkes Ferael

true coral
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Thanks for the input I think going with your original line up is best honestly just looking at the alternatives did not make too much sense ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale rover
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@true coral Yes. The alternatives are kind of meh but situationally could work if you're up against Maulers.

inland kite
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can you see what you can perhaps do with mine aero?

pale kettle
nocturne torrent
pale rover
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@inland kite

No Team Bonus
Lucius top Niru bottom front
Saveas Belinda Arden back

Ideally you'll do enough damage that your Niru will keep healing and is able to offtank. Arden will hopefully keep them rooted.

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@nocturne torrent Wilders have a better pool. Either way it's not a guarantee that you'll get Brutus if you faction pull for Maulers.

nocturne torrent
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Gotcha, yeah thats what I figured, but first time so better safe than sorry haha xD

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Thanks~

inland kite
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yeah my abilities are not going off unfortunately before they die

hardy fog
pale rover
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@inland kite That means ascensions.

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@hardy fog Your team's okay. It's ascensions. I would also have to say a bit of levels..

pale kettle
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@pale rover what would you change on my lineup? vedan360

inland kite
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oh yeah i understand that.. just its gonna take me a long time now rip to even do that

hardy fog
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I have 2 lightbearer factional gear pieces if that matters....oh ok so I made it to the afk part of the game

wild snow
pale rover
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@pale kettle Place your hero list and the stage in one post, I'll take a look.

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@wild snow Shemira.

wild snow
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@pale rover really not nemora to make her leg?

split prairie
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@hardy fog you hit the rng part more like

pale rover
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@wild snow I'd rather make Shemira L+ earlier than Nemora so she can be the team carry as soon as possible.

hardy fog
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I got close a few times but scaeva so op

wild snow
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Ok thank you @pale rover

split prairie
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@pale kettle triple stack cc and go for rng

pale rover
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@pale kettle

Shemira isn't a reliable carry yet before 161. She's situationally only able to work in front if you overlevel her.

Brutus Grezhul
Shemira Tasi Arden/Silvina (team bonus)

You can also try @split prairie suggestion.

split prairie
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@hardy fog try putting Belinda in position 5 and five it 10 tryes or si

hardy fog
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Five it?

split prairie
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Position 5, southern most spot on backline

sudden heath
inland kite
pale kettle
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@pale rover ok I'll try! Thanks
@split prairie I've tried man this vedan360 annoying

deep comet
pale rover
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@deep comet No.

split prairie
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@pale kettle yeah that's where rng can either be amazing or screw you, it took me 30 or so tries to finally get it with same comp

sudden heath
pale kettle
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What did you use @split prairie

still oar
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@deep comet no

split prairie
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@sudden heath depends on where you're at

sudden heath
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Chapter 9

split prairie
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@sudden heathi personally cheesed through 9 stacking heavy CC's with Belinda+lucious

wild snow
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@sudden heath you are at stage 9 with these heroes?

sudden heath
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Chapter 9 yeah.
@split prairie my belinda is only epic rip

manic ivy
split prairie
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@sudden heath your toons are so much further than what I had in 9, you should be able to breeze through it

sudden heath
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I cant tho :(

wild snow
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@manic ivy lyca/tasi/nemora

clear wind
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Maybe it's the positioning

split prairie
sudden heath
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What the heck.

manic ivy
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@wild snow is it really worth replacing Saveas this early?

split prairie
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@sudden heath shemira is not a carry till 161+ that might be hurting you instead of helping tbh

wild snow
sudden heath
split prairie
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@sudden heath you need to cc their ccs

sudden heath
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I tried running arden but it was worse than nemora

vale kraken
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Where's the formation buffs tho?

split prairie
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@sudden heath try using athalia for their ardrn

wild snow
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@sudden heath try lucius, estrilda/hogan, fawkes, belinda and saveas

split prairie
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@vale krakentop left corner, see the peacock looking symbol

sudden heath
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I dont have lucius and fawkes

chrome cradle
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@sudden heath I would reset shemira, raise saveas to 140 and estrida, grezhul and shemira to 121

wild snow
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Oh ok

vale kraken
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I wasnt looking for it . These teams here in this channel dont use formation buffs XD

chrome cradle
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I'm similar level and just beat my roadblock after replaced shemira to saveas as carry

split prairie
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@sudden heath try athalia vs their arden, change nem for arden

inland kite
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anyone perhaps can give advice on the team in my labryinth?

split prairie
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Could also use 3 maulers to give you the buff with those 2, and of course good rng for roots

sand fog
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level up ur heroes bud

exotic nova
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o7

south herald
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@rocky wasp Hogan estrilda front with saveas nemiru and the centaur guy or hogan the lich king person front with shem isabella and nemiru backline maybe (I dont remember names dont judge me)

vale kraken
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@inland kite arden instead of brutus

exotic nova
hardy fog
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Woohoo I did it

gleaming jay
inland kite
split prairie
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@hardy fog gzz

exotic nova
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Maybe someone?

wild snow
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@inland kite do you really leveled 9 heroes??

inland kite
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um no, thats labryinth

wild snow
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Oh ok haha got shocked

south herald
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@exotic nova u need more heroes tbh xd

inland kite
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im on the boss and almost finished, just stuck and have no clue of what to do until i can get a dura's tear somehow before reset

shut parrot
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@inland kite replace mirael with belinda

hardy fog
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Also just got rein I herar she is good

silent terrace
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@inland kite niru to mirael so u get bonus, you need bonus..
also shemira shouldn't tank
then brutus pos1, pos2 athalia, pos3 can be shemira

wild snow
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@inland kite cant you attack with more teams?

clear wind
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@exotic nova dony split your xp to other units besides your main 5

candid surge
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Im stuck at 12-12 any experienced players online who can help me

inland kite
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i dont have enough heroes to attack multiple times

exotic nova
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@south herald iยดm just lvl 27 and i spend every diamond i get for new heros...

inland kite
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luke, its a game of patience, you legit have to wait and just do things as they come.

candid surge
shut parrot
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ewwww

exotic nova
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@clear wind should i reset the others to refound the materials iยดve invested to them?

clear wind
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Yes

proud compass
inland kite
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thats legit where im stuck LMAO

exotic nova
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any advice what kind of heros i shold take @clear wind

shut parrot
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@inland kite brutus top front shem back top belinda middle niru bottom front athlooa bottom back for labyriinth

inland kite
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so its one of those i should keep trying with that formation even if it fails ? @shut parrot

silent terrace
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@proud compass might want fawkes instead of khasos / belinda
and your saveas should be on pos5 to kill angelo fast
if fawkes catch enemy saveas, you should win in theory
use your brutus to absorb enemy saveas damage, so pos1 = brutus, pos2 = lucius

clear wind
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Frontline: Sirius and Hogan. Backline: kaz, nemora, and ira @exotic nova

proud compass
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@silent terrace I donโ€™t have Fawkes

shut parrot
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@inland kite mhm. Try switching them around and then start replacing units until you see improvement. Sometimes itโ€™s the different of a few crits and ccs in the right place

exotic nova
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜˜

inland kite
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yeah... i guess so, ive just been trying for probably about 3-4 hours off and on

shut parrot
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Whaaaaat thatโ€™s crazy. After i passed lvl 40 ive havent had to use duraโ€™s tears or revive more than 2 heroes :0. I wonder if it spikes later again

inland kite
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what artifact should i give belinda? eye, call, grace or drape?

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it goes mostly based off of overall exp, also depends on your luck, ive been stuck several times.

silent terrace
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@proud compass then you're doomed, but anyway, let's fix your current position
not gonna help you win, but at least make you stronger than currently

pos1 should be brutus to absorb enemy saveas
pos2 lucius
pos3 perhaps belinda is better
pos4 khasos so he can hit everyone
pos5 saveas , your target is angelo, if angelo die, your saveas should be able solo the remaining, but your saveas level is too low to be able to win enemy saveas , perhaps you want to reset brutus to 141 and your own saveas get lvl 154 should be better deal
good luck

split prairie
shut parrot
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@inland kite eye and call work

inland kite
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thats my 11-32 rip

silent terrace
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arden 140 is shit, arden 141 is god
no bonus = rip team
btw, niru can't tank shit, he is best at pos4

inland kite
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its only no bonus cause ive been experimenting for a while.

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so yeah, no bonus is a rip

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and i cant get arden to 141 until i ascend belinda anyway

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ive been back and forth with both of these for the past 4-6 hours

silent terrace
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show me all heroes , maybe i can help @inland kite

inland kite
shy mirage
inland kite
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FINALLY cleared labryinth

shy mirage
silent terrace
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@inland kite i swear i saw brutus L for your lineup when i scroll above...

if you have brutus elite + lyca + nemora + arden must be lvl 141 minimum and saveas must be minimum 145 , you will win this round easily

since that's not the case, let's try something else

inland kite
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i wish i had brutus

frank scarab
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why put raine in front?

inland kite
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but yeah, i can get saveas leveled, hes legendary +

shy mirage
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Lol she was in backline before

inland kite
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i just need some heroes essence

shy mirage
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I was experimenting positions and thought Raine should be just used as food instead lol

inland kite
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thats me with silviana

silent terrace
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reset mirael reset niru
saveas must be 145 so he can 1 vs remaining enemy hero at the end
let's use lucius and fawkes, so we just need to focus 2 more hero
lucius can't tank enemy saveas in theory, we dont want him to die, so probably we need hogan in this case

hogan be pos1, he will tank saveas damage
lucius at pos4 to help heal
pos3 fawkes
pos5 saveas
pos2 can be any tank, perhaps estrilda

if u dont have 3 str gear, then pos2 is lucius while pos4 is belinda

good luck, hope for your fawkes to catch enemy saveas, if he didnt catch saveas, immediately retry as you will lose guaranteed

inland kite
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oh? reset mirael and niru?

split prairie
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@shy mirage Arden instead of shem

shy mirage
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Ok I'll try

inland kite
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crap thats a lil rough xDDD mirael is a heavier hitter than belinda sadly

split prairie
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@shy mirage it might take quite a few tries to get good rng for roots

shy mirage
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@split prairie And where do I put Arden?

split prairie
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@shy mirage try him in each spot on the backline a few tries, try for save being double rooted

inland kite
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so i guess i really do gotta give up on mirael

left otter
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If you are gonna ask who to ascend or any question that is not related to lineup please ask in #classic-questions

silent terrace
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@inland kite you had saveas, who cares about other dps
no other dps can match saveas damage pre 160
other dps will just make your team weaker

saveas strat is , give all resource to him, and buy him as much time as possible to own enemy
2 dps [ saveas + other ] meaning you lack tank / cc ,
and will result your team die faster, therefore lack damage from your saveas
and from what i observe, you can have 2 dps but it will be worse than just focus buying time for your saveas solo dps , as long saveas highest resource, he can carry easily

left otter
shy mirage
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@split prairie I tried and it didn't work. Arden didn't use his roots and kept casting shield on my hero on position 2 which is Brutus

split prairie
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@shy mirage it's rng, need him alive long enough to cast, will create a 5v3 situation for long enough to hammer down some dps

exotic nova
silent terrace
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@shy mirage brutus instead of shemira
reset your shemira and give the exp so that everyone else beside belinda and lucius have higher exp
brutus pos1, lucius pos2, the rest just hope to clear..

dense leaf
clear wind
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@exotic nova no you need the faction boost especially at that low of a level

exotic nova
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okido, i didnยดt notice that^^๐Ÿ™ˆ

inland kite
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So @silent terrace I did that and now it reset all my other heroes to 1 on the crystal

torpid stirrup
silent terrace
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@inland kite level them back then, the key point here is getting everyone same level, your shemira is lvl 140 , but u dont use her.. that resource can make 3 other hero lvl 137-138

inland kite
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i dont have a shemira

silent terrace
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@inland kite oh yea, then niru and mirael
basically if u dont use them, reset them and give best resource to saveas, please just scroll up and see what i type, i type it clearly enough ๐Ÿ˜ƒ try to read it, and ask me again if u still dont understand

exotic nova
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ok i see...4 wilders so it gives +15%ATK and +20%HP...nice bonus esecial for nemora because her abilitys skales with max. HP.... @clear wind

coarse bay
exotic nova
inland kite
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aaight saveas is now 158, getting close to being able to do it XD just gotta wait on resources now @silent terrace

silent terrace
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@inland kite show me the current line up again, good job btw

inland kite
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i tried resetting niru to give exp to arden and them, but then it resets my crystal to 1 and it says i have to get them to 100 to level him

silent terrace
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i think you still misunderstand hauhauhua

inland kite
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??? im resetting heroes to give to saveas

pale kettle
silent terrace
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@pale kettle god im so envy you
you could almost get L+ brutus muahaha

btw , REMEMBER This Advise :
saveas priority to get L+, just dont use brutus as fodder
2nd priority, arden L+
it will help you a lot until chapter 13 cleared

as of now, you must get level 101 saveas 101 brutus, 100 golus, belinda and lucius must be on same level, i suppose you can get them to level 87
that will be your current team

on campaign, you can keep switching belinda to athalia depending on the enemy

sage carbon
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i would use brutus nemora front line with saveas lyca arden back line.. (always put nemora vs the weaker side) if does not work take lyca out put nemora back line and darius in front

brittle summit
silent terrace
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@brittle summit pos1 brutus
Pos2 belinda
pos3 fawkes
pos4 estrilda
pos5 saveas

try and feel the difference

exotic nova
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5-16 btw

silent terrace
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how many dust essence you currently have?@exotic nova

exotic nova
pale kettle
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I took your advice from this morning and it's been treating me well enough so far @silent terrace, thanks a ton

silent terrace
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@exotic nova reset your hogan
hogan lv 41
get your ira to lvl 61
remaining resource give to kaz

best agi gear, give to ira, if your kaz has better agi gear, give to ira
best str gear, give to seirus

pos 1 = seirus
pos2 = hogan
pos3 = nemora
pos4 = kaz
pos5 = ira

pale kettle
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I'm using Seveas instead of Ferael. I guess that I saw Ferael's stun passive and thought him to be good lol

silent terrace
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@pale kettle huehueuhe im happy for you buddy

brittle summit
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@silent terrace tried the setup out, but still getting beaten.

silent terrace
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@brittle summit show all hero perhaps, so i can ask you to reset some and change your line up

twilit bobcat
brittle summit
silent terrace
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@twilit bobcat pos1 brutus
pos2 hogan
pos3 golus
pos4 saveas
pos5 athalia,

best agi gear on saveas, best str gear on brutus, try it

twilit bobcat
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okay okay, imma try it now. thanks! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

arctic torrent
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Yo i started a week ago and i'd like to know if i can improve my lineup, thanks for the help

subtle current
hushed rain
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Hello, was wondering if nemora would be a better buy from labyrinth shop than shemira to keep the set effect

silent terrace
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@brittle summit be patient okay
took out warek, took out silvina from reso crystal, tomorrow, put ankhira and golus inside

then reset belinda, and estrilda, then manually level 5 highest hero to lvl 117
5 highest hero should be, saveas, belinda, estrilda, mirael , ira

remaining resource, make 5 highest hero to lvl 118 or 119
now position
1 = brutus
2 = ankhira
3 = golus
4 = khasos
5 = saveas
best str gear to brutus ,
if you happen to not have 3 str gear, replace golus / khasos to athalia
if you happen to use athalia, athalia must be on pos3, athalia can't be on pos4

twilit bobcat
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@silent terrace, i beat 6-36, thanks so much!!! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

silent terrace
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@subtle current basically you have to reset 5 highest hero
first, make sure 5 highest hero lvl 121 by MANUALLY

resetting 1 hero and level to 121, 1 by 1, then reset again 1 more, level again until 121 etc until 5 times
then, level up saveas to 145 [ saveas, minimal must have 1 level higher than enemy level, even better if saveas reach 160 as long other hero lvl 121 ]
then the remaining level them to the same level
best agi gear give saveas

pos1 should be brutus
pos2 should be lucius
the backline is good enough
should provide BETTER result but no guarantee killing the round, but 100% guaranteed BETTER result

ivory walrus
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help

reef flower
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11-40, I've tried every possible combination of heroes/formation I could think of, my Brutus typically dies after he ults once (to very little effect) and before Lucius can shield, the backline gets sniped by Mirael's/Morvus' ultimates and Lucius is shit at dps despite the 12k attack lol

ivory walrus
torpid stirrup
narrow sand
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Probably LB

silent terrace
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@reef flower using shem not 161 wont provide better result on your case
since u can use saveas to get more buff, and saveas deal more damage than your shemira

you also can't get shemira to 161, so i would recommend change saveas to shemira
then swap saveas to belinda
you must kill morvus , as morvus can slow your team with his skill
if fawkes guaranteed trap morvus, then saveas at shemira place, to guaranteed kill spider lady

although i'm not confident u can kill it, because your solo carry is lvl 140 and your defend is 161
lucius will survive but he can't solo carry

perhaps show me all other hero so i can see which other formation possible to play turtle strategy
[ you focus on lucius 161 meaning you focus on defend instead of attack, clearing campaign from what i know can't rely on defend, but perhaps with other formation we can try something suits your turtle strategy ]

arctic torrent
exotic nova
reef flower
muted stream
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@ivory walrus underleveled

ivory walrus
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@muted stream all i can do is wait?

muted stream
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Hate to say it but yes @ivory walrus

ivory walrus
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@muted stream one more question. do u reccomend getting arden to 141 or leveling saveas as high as possible

silent terrace
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@ivory walrus reset your arden and manually level him to 101, please stop at 101
level up your fawkes until lvl 101
at this point your goal is to have 5 highest hero which is
saveas 128, tasi 107, seirus 101, arden 101, fawkes 101

you should only have 5 highest hero , if u have 6, then reset the 6th
after that, give saveas lvl 140
the remaining level, give it to seirus arden fawkes, so that they can reach lvl 107
now, saveas 140, 4 other hero lvl 107
remaining resource, level up them at the same level

pos1 = brutus
pos2 = tasi
pos3 = seirus
pos4 = arden
pos5 = saveas

if silvina attack arden at the beginning, pos2 arden, pos4 tasi
good luck

muted stream
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^

arctic torrent
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i feel ignored i'll start a twitter thread ๐Ÿ˜‚

exotic nova
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@silent terrace hard under stress? everyone wanna join you and your knowledge^^

ivory walrus
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rip. so i tried that and my team just got demolished

exotic nova
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do u have time to play for your own?^^

ivory walrus
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saveas was the only one that was left in like 5 seconds

silent terrace
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@reef flower i understand that u lvl him to 161 because he is the only one capable [ mythic ]
since u don't have saveas L+, u can't have attack strategy, so best bet is playing turtle strategy
arden must be lvl 141 to achieve turtle strategy
lucius can be either 160 if you dont have enough dust for arden to reach 141
or if the problem is not dust, but hero essence, then wait for 1 day

lucius 161, arden 141,
add lyca and kaz ,
1 more hero left, is your choice from these options

  • brutus [ he is best tank , he will be pos1 , lucius pos 2]
  • athalia [ 4 wilder bonus + athalia is dps ] , kaz can help be pos2, lucius be pos1
  • any other lightbringer such as raine fawkes belinda [ to get bonus ], kaz can help be pos2, lucius be pos1

good luck

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@exotic nova only buy shemira from lab
you will and have to use shemira once you met campaign's enemy level at 160+ , which is chapter 14

before that , i wont suggest use shemira, but you must keep buying shemira from lab to make sure she reach Mythical rarity at chapter 14

reef flower
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Thanks a lot man! I'll likely get enough essence when I wake up later (it's 2 am for me rn, yikes) and I'll try it out to see how it works. I'll likely add in Brutus just to have another tank so my team doesn't get demolished in .01 secs lol @silent terrace

silent terrace
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@ivory walrus saveas is solo carry , you dont need other hero basically, only need saveas
other hero is needed only to buy AS MUCH time as possible for your MAXED RESOURCES SAVEAS
by resource i mean, gear level and rarity

as long as u possition your team on the best location, and they can hold as much time as possible for saveas , your saveas can 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 3 or 1 vs 4 remaining enemy hero
the rest, just leave it to RNG , be it CC RNG or critical RNG or dodge RNG

dense leaf
silent terrace
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@arctic torrent sick sry your level is too low, can't help much with low level as your hero pool is not much..
but i'll give you basic tips
know your solo carry, https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
then, give max resource to your solo carry [ level, rarity, gear ]
then, buy as much time possible for your solo carry , that should win most campaign
FYI , lvl 81 saveas and 4 hero lvl 60 , will give you much better result than 5 hero lvl 70 like that

and most important tips, if you have so-so rarity, so-so hero combination, GET BONUS at least 3 hero bonus, no bonus = rip team

This is an end-game focused Tier List for AFK Arena. It's based on the heroes at their maximum level.As only certain heroes can become Mythic, that was a huge factor when making the list.

pale kettle
upper path
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Do you have another tank? @pale kettle

dim wyvern
pale rover
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@pale kettle Please ask these in #classic-questions but if you're using Hogan/have no other viable tanks, don't feed him just yet.

pale kettle
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Not using him

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Only reason to save him... Is for future lucius drops maybe?

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Thoran is my main tank. With Golus and Shemira picking up the rest of the tanking duties

silent terrace
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@dim wyvern
first of all, please reset belinda and level her manual until 120
have enough material to reach saveas lvl 141? go for it
not enough for 141? get lucius 121 belinda can stay 120 and give saveas as high as possible

have 3 str gear?
use brutus saveas lucius fawkes estrilda
only 2 str gear?
brutus saveas lucius fawkes belindaa

as of now, they will help, but it's not the best,
from now on, focus on getting arden L, so you can change your formation to wilder as soon as u get arden L+

exotic nova
half plover
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Should I buy nemora or shmira from labyrinth shop? Don't have any of them

exotic nova
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nemora
and build her based on HP
best support/healer

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Shemira 'Corpsemaker' Hero Details Shemira is one of the strongest damage dealers in the game. Her Tortured Souls ability can absolutely demolish enemy teams as not only does it do insane damage, but it also hits every single enemy on

Nemora 'Nature's Heart' Hero Details Nemora is currently the strongest healer in the game. Unlike most other support heroes, her kit is mostly focused on healing allies. The only other pure healer in the game is Angelo and he is

fallen token
frozen valley
silent terrace
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@fallen token reset thane, reset shemira
5 highest hero
121 arden, 121 saveas, 120 belinda, 120 thane, 120 shemira
remaining resource level up saveas

position :
1 = brutus
2 = kaz
3 = saveas
4 = nemora
5 = arden

best agi gear give to saveas not kaz, best int gear give to nemora

fallen token
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Okay I'll try

exotic nova
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@silent terrace should i now switch my team from Seirus/Hogan/Nemora/Kaz/Ira to Saveas/Shemira/Nemora/Vedan/Arden? because mid tier?

vernal blaze
desert scaffold
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@vernal blaze u decently want raine

outer terrace
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raine is not great

vernal blaze
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h e l p

rigid hamlet
silent terrace
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@exotic nova you should switch to saveas YES, but what you recommend is complete trash

remember this tips, u only wnat 1 DPS which is saveas
4 other hero is just there to HELP buy time, be it cc enemy team or tank for your saveas
as long saveas get the highest resource, you should be okay

vedan = dps , shemira = dps , u dont need DPS if u play saveas strat
arden nemora vedan shemira saveas = no buff = no dmg no hp , can't even buy time for saveas

vernal blaze
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@desert scaffold who should i switch her for though?

elder owl
desert scaffold
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shemira or the guy with the staff and shield (sorry I'm bad at names)

silent terrace
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@elder owl saveas brutus khasos athalia lucius try it
saveas post 5
brutus pos 1
khasos pos 2
athalia pos 3
khasos pos 4

from now on stick on that lineup, level up saveas every day, if RNG helps you, you should win

alpine jolt
elder owl
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Thank you Iโ€™ll try that. Yeah I got lucky with Legendary tier gear and he carried me from stage 10-36 to here in like an hour lmao.

silent terrace
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@alpine jolt u can just use all heroes , if all heroes die, use dura tear to revive all heroes ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
focus to get buff on each try , at least 3 bonus buff

kindred silo
alpine jolt
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@silent terrace no one from the enemy heroes dies, and all of mine die so its pointless to wastw dura already did that 3 times...

silent terrace
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@alpine jolt choice of items from lab will affect your hero line up, nothing u can do to help since u can't reroll items u take on lab at this point

that's the best advice i can give haha sry

muted stream
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@alpine jolt try to exit the match so it reset and you could try it again

zealous palm
muted stream
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Switch Brutus and lucius pos? @zealous palm

zealous palm
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Then my lucius dies instantly and the golus destroys my saveas

muted stream
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I think 141 brutus will solve it @zealous palm

silent terrace
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@zealous palm brutus stay there is fine
saveas pos5, he want to kill angelo fast so he can 1 vs remaining 3 heroes
fawkes at pos4
belinda pos3

if the problem is brutus die, it's okay, he is supposed to die, as long he immunity 4s it's already considered good enough for your team
as long angelo die, RNG will carry your saveas to 1 vs remaining 3 heroes

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@zealous palm nothing u can do unless you get L+ brutus at this point,
or you can keep retry until at some point fawkes catch saveas, but fawkes is a dumb ass in campaign, he rarely target enemy saveas..

if u feel it's impossible, afk for awhile, level up saveas every day, and at some point you will win this round at most when saveas lvl 160 with same line up and same formation as i told you

delicate trout
silent terrace
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@delicate trout no bonus in campaign with so so rarity and so so gear = dead 100% guaranteed