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@covert condor my advice is to grind out a few more lvls and get Arden to his max
11-36 need help
They just die ao fast, I guess I need to afk nore ๐๐
@forest shadow try it out and also get athalia to 121
@fading gull icant even grind out anymore levels sadly, imma have to actually wait for afk rewards lol
@covert condor that might be your best bet then friend sorry
@forest shadow get athalia too 121 or Vedan
@torpid goblet swap athalia with saveas on spots or you could try doing it like, kick lucuis and belinda, move saveas in front of khasos and brutus on estrilda, athalia middle back and the other 2 would be arden and tasi
@pale kettle Athalia is needed in middle spot to stop Morvus from destroying my backline and I have just tried your suggest line-up, but didn't work. Thanks for trying ๐
@torpid goblet did you put arden on bottom so he can root saveas?
@pale kettle Yup, but Tasi is kind of making it not possible to attack Morvus by cc'ing him, so when he gets out of the cc he destroys everyone
@torpid goblet have you tryed ezizh for the 30% deff bonus?
Any advice?
@earnest plank consider using arden for tasi
@pale kettle I just tried it and only managed to kill Morvus and no one else :/
My level is probably the thing that is holding me back. I'll just try to see what I can do when I get their level higher
brutus on 141 should help
Ok Belinda is Definitely doing a lot more damage than Vedan so replacing him now is quite okay to do
But ummm the problem with this is I have 0 lightbearers to get the most out of her atm
I have no chance vs 11-16. Now I guess I have to catch up in levels.
Can anyone help...
Somehow I've managed to beat the last fight of stage 11. With only one hero that has reached L+, three L and one E+
After over a hundred tries in just one night๐
Can anyone help?
To me its all in the formation not the level or the team strength
Even at stage 11 I still use my Elite Athalia to break enemy formation and deal with those pesky backliners
@bleak condor this is lineup help chat, not chill and chat, thereโs #classic-chat for that
Oh, then you should leave Lyca on the back line. The front you need tanky heroes like Hogan and Lucius
11-38 somehow managed to get to here and now stuck again lol
Any suggestions? (9-36)
I would say maybe try 3 wilders since there are 3 graveborns on the opposing side. And for the opposing wilders get 2 maulers on your team.
I don't know how much this will help but it's all I got for advice
Help pls
Which of these 2 do I ascend?
@polar jolt Belinda cant go wrong
That was my thoughts on it as well
Make savas Elite and reset all ur heroes and mae em level 61 instead > all leftover exp goes to saveas
Got any tips for setups? Using sav and Hogan front line and athalia, arden and Belinda backline (from up to down in order) at stage 8-19 atm too
Stuck on 10-4, you think I can do it, or not until I get more levels?
Need some help for 8-24
Iโm stuck in the same spot @pale kettle but for some reason when I get to 1on1 saveas theirs stops losing health at around 1/3 health. So I keep stalling
Damn dude, I canโt even drop the fucking tanks right now before my teamโs wiped.
I use Tasi Arden Lyca Brutus. So it gives me a strong start
Iโd been using Tasi, Lyca, Nemora backline and Sav Brutus front line, but backline gets insta-wiped because of factional bonuses
My levels and gear are probably too low
Hey @placid dirge
@pale kettle You're going to need to level. Top 5 with Arden instead of Nemora is fine.
@pale kettle You'll need to level and ascend.
Lucius Brutus
Belinda Saveas Tasi
There won't be a faction bonus.
@pale rover thoughts on what I should do?
need help with 9-20. seems like my heroes just die instantly and enemy team takes like no damage
What do you mean @pale rover ? The bonus goes away once theyโre ascended high enough?!
@pale kettle u can beat 10-4 w that
saveas needs to get ccd by nem, u can just auto it
@coral solar You really need to badly ascend your heroes. 100 percent that's the problem. You're still mostly elite+ while the opponents are already partly mythic.
Hogan top Golus bottom front
Saveas Belinda Fawkes
(3-2 team bonus)
@pale kettle The team I gave you has no faction bonus but has great synergy. Try it out!
@pale kettle I just beat it with this. It took tons of Rng into I finally had everyone but Lyca vs Saveas.
@pale kettle u can beat 9-20 w that, swap lyca in for arden if u dont have him. Try rotating saveas and arden positions if its not working
@pale kettle You'll want to avoid using Lightbearers against Graveborn. Since those are two mixed factions, aim for a neutral faction possibly mixed with the one that is superior to the other; in this case, you can preferably do Maulers (neutral) with Wilders.
From your hero list:
Ogi Vedan
Shemira Tasi Lyca (haste, team bonus)/Saveas (no team bonus)
Thanks @pale rover
Need help w/ a general use team
@pale rover well it got me there without ascending and I just ascended savaes lol
Currently stuck on 9-20
@golden harness why do you have belinda elite in crystal lol
Lmao I didn't even notice that
And for 20 extra lvl, take out elite of the crystal and put elite+
Help please ๐ซ
@potent oar saveas #3 belinda 4 and switch Arden with fawkes
If that doesnโt work @potent oar switch brutus with Lucius
@potent oar must kill that sniper first
saveas 160
the rest 121, remaining resource give everyone same level
p1 = brutus
p2 = hogan
p3 = lucius
p4 = khasos
p5 = saveas
@silent terrace thoughts?
@coral solar put saveas instead of athalia
whoever the mage silvina target, put saveas behind her ( tasi / nemora )
the mage should be on pos2
pos1 should be kaz
pos5 should be saveas
pos3 and pos4 should be lyca and other mage that is not targeted by silvina
https://i.imgur.com/0wOGfGh.png https://i.imgur.com/FDAZeWi.png thoughts on changes and where to focus next? Was thinking of getting up saveas and replace him with someone, but not sure who to replace
@silent terrace if I put savaes pos5 he gets neutralize by Arden
Anyone stuck at 9-20. I just cleared it with this comp
@coral solar then keep retry button until arden didnt root him , as long silvina dies before she ult, you should be fine
@harsh tartan first priority is getting saveas L+
2nd priority i think is arden L+
both should be reach, not choosing either one
then main line up can be, brutus saveas lyca arden + [nemora/tasi either one]
as long saveas L+ and arden L+ , the other 3 can be just elite and you should still be able beating chapter 13
but remember, for lab, spend all coins only on shemira, not on nemora / other hero
starting ch14, you must have Mythical Shemira to progress
Any suggestions plz ? (9-35)
ok, thanks ๐
@harsh tartan ferael or athalia. For sav
@rotund girder kill vedan first, put sav bottom
@light elm i'm trying, but it doesn't work, the few times he kills him, nemora stays and just fuck him up :/
guess I should just leave shemira at 120 and save all the essence for sav
If he can stand in the front lines, put arden behind him. Replace shem
They changed 3-40 with update and idk how to get past them now
That's chap 6 isn't it? There's a guide in the pinned
Oh I meant 6-30
Oh did they change the team composition?
Yeah, itโs a lot harder now imo
Of you get some levels you'll clear pretty easy I think, you're very underleveled
Only my second day in this server x)
hey, i can make belinda or lucius mythic, more tank or more dps ? (i'm at 11-40) Actual comp : Lucius L+, Brutus L, Nemora L+, Fawkes L, Belinda L+ all around 140
They added silvina which fks me up a bit. I donโt have tasi or Fawkes to help with it so itโs hard
@rotund girder yes, dont use shemira before she is 161 since she is not good tank before that
better to use golus on this case instead of shemira
if i were you, i would reset your shemira to level 120, give remaining resources to saveas
after that, swap your saveas to belinda position , should be easy win
@snow hornet luciusss in my opinion > belinda so much
@silent terrace i actually won and explosed 9-36, but now i'm locked at 9-37 :/
Anyone have any suggestions for my team Top row is my lineup
@rotund girder your capability to win is high, since you only have 30k difference, you should be able to go straight to 9-40 for sure, even straight chapter 10
keep going ๐ if u're stuck post again here
@rotund girder whats your line up Iโm stuck at 9-38 lol
@coral solar how does it goes simm? did your saveas ever beat silvina before she ult?
Not at all
@silent terrace so i should reset shem to lvl 120, but to who do i give the dust so ? hogan ?
@snow hornet I find lucius much more helpful
@fossil blaze replace vedan with nemora/arden
@rotund girder yes since you use hogan and dont use shemira
@silent terrace belinda almost manage to kill silvina herself but for the rest Isabella kills everything lol
@coral solar come private message, easier to chat
Ok thanks @silent terrace @light elm
@light elm alright thanks
@silent terrace so team would be golus hogan athalia belinda saveas right ?
and for artifacts, should i give eye to belinda and grace to saveas or eye to saveas and grace to hogan ?
Eye to saveas
@rotund girder composition = golus hogan athalia belinda saveas = yes
but position of each hero is changeable depending on the enemy you fight okay, if u stuck just post here so i can help with position wise =)
NB better if you can replace golus with brutus, but golus would do fine for now
about artifacts, most people like to give saveas the CRIT/SPD artifact, as for myself, i prefer my saveas use the shield when ult artifact hahaha
ya i prefer using the shield when ult too because it actually gives 8% hp and hp recovery too, and saveas rely on max hp to do damage
Any suggestions? Currently I run Lucius and Ogi in the front, saveas tasi and nemora
@rotund girder saveas dmg is CURRENT HP, not max so it's not as good
@bronze delta suggestions for leveling or teams
Teams rather not leveling sorry I didn't specify. Also if possible what 10 heros I should put in the resonating crystal so I can do some challengers tournament.
Hey, any tips? extremely stuck
@bronze delta reset ogi and get arden up. Him and saveas are the first priority to 141. Saveas first.
Sav nemora arden tasi khaos 1st team. Can change khasos for a unit you feel is more tanky
Grezhul vedan ferael hogan thane lucius 2nd. Can use estrilda if you used lucius in 1st team
@rotund girder my saveas always 1 vs 2 up to 1 vs 4 remaining heroes , that's why i gave saveas that artifact
but if u have strong enough tank , such as good geared and high rarity brutus, you can 2 vs many at the end of battle , therefore u can use crit / aspd artifact on saveas instead ๐
thx a LOT @silent terrace after beating 8-37 i rushed through the levels, but not using golus and using Arden instead (because i actually have only 1 stuff tank :/ i will patch that ^^)
and i'm actually at chapter 10 now :D
@bronze delta you need another tank for your 2nd team so that's your priority. And what did you do with belinda? Or have you not got her yet
Haven't gotten Belina :(
@crisp coral try this
pos1 belinda
pos2 brutus
pos3 saveas
pos4 athalia
pos5 hogan
now a question, because i have 10 scrolls for graveborn, and as graveborn heroes i selected Shemira and Isabella in the wishlist, can i put only shem ? what should i do ?
@bronze delta she's a day 7 reward as elite+, don't worry
@rotund girder put all 5 if you don't like pulling legendary tier purples
Can I drop khasos for Lucius? I Love his shield
@rotund girder woh congrats then ๐
from what i heard u can't just put 1 ascended heroes
if you put 5 on your wishlist, you will guaranteed get 1 out of 5 , IF on that pull YOU HAPPEN TO GET ELITE
but if you put < 5 on your wishlist, i am not sure
If you only want shem, and don't care if you pull ferael or vedan, you can only put shemira
@bronze delta ofc. Khasos isn't very good, I just suggested him because you don't have any good tank, and I wanted to balance both teams a bit
Wait a 7 day gft? What you mean .-. did I miss something important I've been playing for about a month lol ..
@silent terrace ty for the suggestion, without ezizh belinda dies right away ...
Also my Brutus is only elite, dies instant /:
@bronze delta the login event. Did you take them all?
I'm 99% sure I did ...
any tips for 4-36? other than just AFK for a long time
YAY, got shem :D
anyone have any ideas? Im there for a few days already feels like Im getting nowhere
Help me with 5-36 pls
@bronze delta you foddered her then. Rip
@night horizon overlevel your dps, and afk for 12 hours or so chap 4 doesn't take long
Does saveas survive if you put him before athalia?
@crisp coral
Saveas always dies last @light elm
just usually he is aginst 4 at the end ><
worth getting brutus to 61 first or just max out Saveas
@crisp coral switch saveas and ezizh for a few runs
@night horizon max your dps first I'd say, but you can probably do both within half a day
@crisp coral remember this
if you're fighting enemy silvina
what you need to remember is this idea
your mage will die no matter what , especially on campaign since they overpower you
this condition alone can simply say, you will be 4 vs 5 [ your mage die ]
so, what you must do is beat enemy silvina before enemy silvina use ULT, because if she ULT, guarantee one of your remaining hero will die [ 3 vs 5 condition ]
that's why you must kill silvina first before silvina ult to gain [ 4 vs 4 ] condition
doesn't matter if your belinda die, as long silvina die before she ult is fine enough, therefore u dont need ezich
in addition, brutus elite still better than most tank, simply because 4s immunity, i'm at ch14 , and currently im still using elite brutus hahaha
@crisp coral try to kill silvina before she ult, and then kill niru after silvina dies
brutus and hogan try at pos2/pos3 , you look which one better
as long they dont die and your saveas can kill niru after silvina dies, that should be efficient enough
5th place can be athalia to make sure she didnt die too fast
good luck, RNG of critical will helps you to clear
@silent terrace thanks for the tip mate.
tried
pos1 belinda
pos2 brutus
pos3 saveas
pos4 athalia
pos5 hogan
in this pase feels like I'll have to afk for a month or so to pass this ><
Stuck any sugggestions? Or do I just need levels
Heya, I've been thinking about changing up my lineup. Been hardstuck and know that my current one isn't viable into further parts of the game. Any suggestions?
@crisp coral maybe athalia die before niru die , that's why niru keep getting healed, try athalia pos5
pos2 and pos3, you decide which one better, because you must also find a condition where niru die before hogan / brutus die to reach the most efficient result
and yes, if it looks like you need to AFK , then so be it, since enemy is overpowering you at this stage haha, at one lucky day, you will crit a lot and win the round with that position , good luck my friend
im getting such bad pulls from my gems :/ getting kinda redicuous. im like 80k under the current campaign level. cant seem to get anything i need to improve my line up.
@deep citrus hogan pos2, saveas pos5,
best agi gear remove from silvina to saveas, and try again
@coarse igloo everyone will get overpower by campaign, it's normal in this game my friend, the higher chapter you are, the less power you are compared to your campaign
@silent terrace which is fine, but id expect to get something after spending $50 on gems in the last week..... i pulled one elite. and the other elite i pulled was from a free scroll.
@pale kettle whoever got targeted by silvina at first, swap it's position with your ogi and try again
@coarse igloo if you would like to get elite, dont spend $ on gems, spend it on daily gift, the one 1$ cost, that give you 10 purple stone, 6$ = 1 elite guaranteed
48$ = 8 elite guaranteed
Need help with 6-36 I just get melted
@fossil blaze I was stuck there for a few...
eventually all I did was pumping saveas elite+ as high as I can, and he literaly carried me through
@crisp coral I have him as my highest lvl 100 but ezizh just keeps getting 4 shot
If you're spending real moeny. they shouldnt make it so RNG based. or at least actually make the wishlist work. because i feel like after they added wishlist. my pulls have gotten worse. They can give me the worst pulls ever for the free gems and scrolls. idc about that.
And yeah @silent terrace yeah, i spent it on the montly package. but do you think its worth it overtime to just keep buying the purple gems? and not even bother with the monthly gifts
@silent terrace buying the daily gift would take me essentially a week to get one elite... lol
@coarse igloo if your question basically asking which is the best deal to spend using $
i would say the daily gift , the one give you purple stone x 10
then the monthly one give you 60
the rest of the deal is basically scamming IMO as it doesn't guarantee [ based on RNG / luck ]
This is my lineup rn should I move them around or (6-36
Yeah, fair enough. seems like a much better deal. can spend a lot more money than i would on the daily/weekly and not even get a single elite.
@fossil blaze you need bonus my friend, without bonus and so so rarity, i dont believe that's good idea
@fossil blaze do you have golus?? if have you should take on position 1 position 2 is brutus and change belinda to numisu
Sorry for reposting, but my previous question was still not answered. I
I've been thinking about changing up my lineup. I know that my current one isn't viable into further parts of the game. Any suggestions?
@fossil blaze if still isnt working change numisu with arden
@pale kettle try lucius seirus arden nemora saveas
@fossil blaze your saveas must kill the spider lady, she is weak , but annoying spider silk + her poison is really crazy in terms of damage
so saveas must be at pos4
your brutus should tank saveas enemy damage,
nemora can stay at pos3 , but he must make sure charm enemy saveas, if she charm anyone else, quickly quit battle and retry
pos2 and pos5 should be another from mauler
skreg is fine at pos2
pos5 numisu is fine, ezizch also fine, u see for yourself which one will be better
@pale kettle as soon you have 141 arden, it will helps a lot
you just need 1 more E arden to get him to L+
then , you can use arden L+ , nemora E+ is fine, + 1 lyca if possible, if not possible, then any elite wilder is fine here
nemora + arden is like cc only,
the remaining 2 should be damage + tank
if you're lvl 161, you can use brutus + shemira since shemira heal at 161 is god
if below 161, i suggest saveas + brutus
brutus himself is a tank that can't die 4 / x second, and deal a lot of damage when he is low, so fit this category
saveas and shemira somehow fit this category as well, but looking at E+ saveas, it will be a long road
nevertheless i wish u good luck on rolling
Extra Tips : lab store, always buy shemira, u need her to get mythical to reach lvl 161
My best lineup Brutus, Saveas, Lyca, nemora, arden?
@meager peak yes yes yes, it serve me until ch14
but you must buy shemira myth.. why you make ferael myth instead huehueu
at ch14 i feel impossible to progress without shemira lvl 200
@silent terrace I've been currently buying only the nemora from lab store. Should I switch to shem?
@minor hatch try nemora and arden for belinda and athalia. Or only nemora for belinda
@spiral bobcat don't sacrifice grezhul or ferael
@meager peak maybe lucius for brutus, try both out. Probably not atm, but try again in 20 levels or so
Fatal because I could I guess lol. He helped me beat 12-40
Should i look to get estrilda to legendary and replace with hogan?
Nope she isn't as good at legend
I like Grezhul a lot, arenโt all three really good? My lineup uses vegan and grezhul front line with a fawkes raine Belinda backline, butbi switch my front to Burtus and Kreg depending on matchup @light elm
@silent terrace it worked, thanks
@pale kettle i would say 100/100 yes,
whatever you do, lab store, just buy shemira from now on
you want to have your CARRY to get the highest resource [ gear , level , rarity ]
before 161, u dont have to worry much, but once campaign's enemy lvl is >160, without shemira 180 it will feel impossible
@fossil blaze oh great to hear, grats for you bud
did u use ezich? hahaha i felt like he is kinda weak
What should i look to build?
@spiral bobcat vedan can be used as fodder, but definitely don't sacrifice the other 2
Ty @light elm
@silent terrace nope I used numisu, ezizh just gets 2 shot and low dmg, skreg was way tankier as well
Lucius, Estrilda, Tasi, Nemora, Belinda @weak dawn
@weak dawn first thing first
always remember this
give best resource [ LEVEL , GEAR , RARITY ] to your solo carry [ saveas on this case ]
by that i mean, level 101 him, while the other can stay at 81 or 80 if needed
Thanks guys, i have my best gear in him already
How's Lucius, Seirus, Tasi, Ferael and Nemora for a dream team? @silent terrace
@weak dawn always level the heroes with highest ascension. Even if you don't use them
@weak dawn as for composition
i would suggest saveas brutus + 3 wilder or 3 LB
either lyca nemora tasi or lucius hogan estrilda
i dont recommend using belinda if you have 3 tank gear, as belinda doesn't do shit
saveas only need your team to buy him time, he can take care the enemy as long you have enough time, as for belinda, her dmg wont even compare to saveas, her buff also just so-so, and she died too fast, that's why if you have enough 3 tank gear and better than your mage gear, i would say go 3 tank LB instead of belinda
or you can go 3 wilder build, depending on the enemy faction you are facing
@pale kettle there's no such thing as dream team without looking at level, so what lvl are we talking here?
should i use shemira or saveas in chapter 6?
Saveas I suggest you use after 100 or 120
really struggling
Right now I'm at 30, but I was hoping to make that my end game team
any advice much appreciated
@dense escarp your problem is not giving best resource to your carry
saveas 81 first instead of seirus
all agi gear give him
then position him at pos5 will do a lot better than your current position
@silent terrace great thanks for the advice. Should i look to apply this straight away? If im running saveas brutus lucius hogan and estrilda, thats 4 tanks.
Seems a little extreme and as far as brutus is concerned, i will only be able to take him so far considering his rarity
Brutus is also prettu squishy
@weak dawn who tanks better than brutus on your team?
@pale kettle this game doesn't work like that
on each lvl 21 , 41 , 61 , 81 , 101, etc
they have different upgrade skills
each hero has different advantages on different skills
such as, for warek, once he reach 161, he is lifted from TRASH tier
before 161, warek is such a trash who died too fast
181 warek become even better as DPS
shemira also can be tank when she 161, but before 161, you ask her to tank, she just die
therefore, talking dream team, there's no such thing
for example, my guild master have 5 Light bringer team, at lvl 200-220 his team consists is
brutus, Belinda, Lucius, raine, thane, and they are monsters
but if you use the same team, at lvl let's say 100-120, they are shit
nv
I'm considering them with their lvl 81 abilities
@pale kettle at 81, overlevel your main dps and put 4 heroes to cc enemy and protect dps
Currently running this
@weak dawn I'd rather use lyca for hogan, and brutus for lucius, if he tanks better
Ferael would be my main DPS, Lucius and Seirus tank, Nemora, Lucius and Tasi heal, everyone in the team provides cc
@light elm ill try it out
this is really annoying me as ive spent gems for resetting cause i cant pass it
@past ermine how does belinda fare for shemira?belinda top
It seems solid to me. Plus they only get better as they level up.
@pale kettle overlevel him to 100 then, and then bring everyone up equally
But is the overall team a good idea to work towards? Thanks for the help everyone, by the way!
@weak dawn that's right, 4 tanks
as of now ,
if you think u have better gear for 3 tanks + 1 mage compared to 4 tanks + 0 mage , then use the 3 tanks + 1 belinda
brutus is squishy, but even if he is squishy he is better than any tank
like i said, the key of saveas strategy is buy him enough time to own enemy ass
brutus can absolutely do that by buying 4 more second for your team
think about this,
you start with 5 hero at 1:30
at 1:25 , your brutus reach 1 hp
you can still have him at 1:21 since he has 4s immunity before die
[ until 1:21 you still have 5 hero ]
compared to say any other hero that is not as squishy ** to be your main tank**
they probably have better def , but against enemy saveas for example also die at 1:23
[ at 1:23 you already left with 4 hero ]
No it only works because you're 81. Very soon it will stop working. Around 100-110
every time Sav and Golus are the last two while whoever i have to 101 is my last man standing
@past ermine how about thane and belinda top? Does it get worse?
I'm trying to figure out why though.. it seems to hit all of the criterias of a good team. Tanking, DPS, healing, CC
see my issue with thane top is that he jumps into the middle of them then is the first to die most times
@pale kettle because ferael fails in the dps section come level 100 or so
@pale kettle lvl below 160, saveas will deal much higher damage than any other hero in the pool currently
i would still say try your best on saveas strategy, but as of transition phase
if you want to use ferael , i will say ferael is kinda trash, his ability basically DEPENDANT on HEROES to die to reach efficient terms, maybe try vedan even better than ferael at lv 81
use this to know which hero should be your solo carry
https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
This is an end-game focused Tier List for AFK Arena. It's based on the heroes at their maximum level.As only certain heroes can become Mythic, that was a huge factor when making the list.
Oh! He's the most replaceable hero on the team. If I put a better DPS, would the team suffice as in-game tier?
Yes. Use saveas instead. Maybe not right now, but he becomes amazing at 121, the best dps at that stage
I'll watch the video now. I'm only using Ferael at the moment because I pulled 3 of him.... Lol
@pale kettle it's a site there's no video
Alright thank you @light elm that got me by, by the skin of my teeth on the fourth attempt
Can someone help me? This is the forth day in this starge T. T
@past ermine ๐
How do you only get to level 90 in a week though 
Seirus is just as replaceable as Ferael on the team. The main Strat is to have Lucius, Nemora and Tasi heal the team to victory
@pale kettle
Ferael would be my main DPS, Lucius and Seirus tank, Nemora, Lucius and Tasi heal, everyone in the team provides cc
ferael in my opinion depends on heroes to die, any hero die give him more damage , since he spawn more spirit
therefore he is not a BURST dps , therefore you can also say your DPS is not 100%
nemora lucius tasi , those 3 can be considered lack dps
seirus , also just a tank which lack dps as well
so you could see how lack dps this team,
also including, you only have 3 wilder bonus, meaning you only have the worst bonus after no-bonus, meaning damage wise also not that high..
i hope that helps
@past ermine when I got belinda on my alts I was like level 110+ if I leveled equally. Maybe I'm remembering wrong
I see, there's a lot I'm not thinking about. Are the bonuses important or are they just there as extra?
The team is heavily defensive inspired 100%
@pale kettle it's a really nice extra for now
@pale kettle
Seirus is just as replaceable as Ferael on the team. The main Strat is to have Lucius, Nemora and Tasi heal the team to victory
^ this idea , however can be done in arena
as you can just win as long enemy can't kill you on time
lucius can be tank , add arden to helps another cc
and add possibly fawkes or lyca or brutus to win the arena , in terms of defending your own rank, you can win it xD
Let me Google those names real quick lol, then I'll give my feedback. Thanks so much btw!
@pale kettle Fawkes is emo Robin Hood and arden is the grandpa
Right. Is Lyca a good DPS?
@pale kettle i believe if you dont over geared , over rarity, or over heroed, bonus is impactful
sometime in arena , i found those 50k power higher but without bonus, i can easily burst down therefore reaching 5 vs 4 condition after 5s , then win them easily
therefore i would say, bonus helps in specific condition
She's not really a dps. She is there to enable your cc heroes and strong ultimates to get out faster
She lowers defense if she can stay alive, which isn't a lot
@rocky wasp might want to show us all your hero too
I'm just trying to work towards a competent end game team.
Lucius, Estrilda/Hogan, Tasi, Lyca/Saveas, Nemora? This team should have the proper bonuses
(The names in this game are awesome)
whats an ideal soren comp from what i have?
@vital vessel you must kill silvina first before she ult, then after silvina die, kill niru ASAP before any other hero die if possible
if not possible ,at least 3 remaining of your hero and 3 other remaining of enemy hero shouldn't die, and niru should die
therefore saveas must be pos5
pos2 should be mage, i will say nemora here
pos1 can be brutus
pos3 can be kaz
pos4 can be khasos
reset your belinda, reset your fawkes
give 100 to khasos
give lvl 101 to brutus
give the remaining level to saveas
good luck
@pale kettle there are different phases of end game. This team that you want to build, what is your time frame? Like how long are you willing to wait for it to really show what it can do
Any idea of how can i beat it ? ๐
I assumed that it would be ready at 81 and only get stronger and stronger afterwards
@gilded fractal right now maybe try lucius thane belinda saveas shemira
@light elm for real? my thanes only elite though, his dps is quite shoddy
@gilded fractal i use warek, as long warek stay behind at soren + nemora sometime use ult to heal everyone, he will get infinite charm therefore can solo tank soren and no one else get charmed, but make sure he get the best gear
2 ult of warek will make warek stay behind soren
at this point, dont use ult on warek anymore
the rest should be saveas brutus nemora
1 more should be from wilder or mauler
before 2 ult of warek , soren will use 2 charm to everyone
at this time, nemora can help give shield to saveas by over healing 1 time = to avoid saveas got charmed
the very first charm most likely inevitable, if saveas got charm, immediately quit battle and retry
works well for me to reach 6m damage, once reach this damage, just need to quick battle for remaining hauhuauha
@pale kettle the game doesn't really work that way. The biggest break point is 160. Teams before 160, and after 160, are wildly different.
@gilded fractal thane is there to turn soren around. Not for dps. He gets charmed the first time, then lucius shields the 2nd charm, then he goes behind for the 3rd charm and dies. You can probably block 2-3 charms. Silvina is much better than him though. But you don't have her built
oh gosh this is confusing haha do i have to manually fight then?
Alright. I guess that I'll casually play as I'm playing and see how far I can go with this strat. I'll work on an end game team when I understand how levels effect teams a bit better.
Thanks again for all of the info!
@light elm for your strategy, would i have to manually time any ults or let it run? @silent terrace is warek viable even at my lvl? regardless i dont have him in the crystal rn unfortunately
@gilded fractal for warek, yes. But he can die pretty fast at this level.
Soren is a manual fight of you want to max your dmg. I'd use warek too but not right now, silvina is better at this stage
@gilded fractal i start using warek when overall my hero is 141, so i am not sure if u can reach 5.5
but reaching 3 m should be possible
and yes , fighting soren, you want to NOT get CHARM,
therefore you want 1 of your hero stay at soren's behind
only hero that can do soren without the need to manual is grezhul in my knowledge
@light elm no i mean with thane! also, should i use shemira or estrilda for estrildas atk boost and energy regen? @silent terrace hmm okay ill keep it in mind for the future.
@gilded fractal I only suggest thane because your silvina isn't built. She's much better at this. And yes, soren fights are manual if you want max dps
@trim dock with what?
@rocky wasp you dont have brutus and your level is kinda low
i dont think u can win with this level
but dont be pessimist, let's try our best
i believe you have lvl 61 x 8 heroes, 5 highest is manually level up , and 3 other is from resonating crystal right?
if you level up more than 5 heroes, immediately reset the 6th 7th 8th and give the resource to saveas
and now talk composition
saveas, golus, hogan, estrilda , mirael is best one for now
pos4 should be saveas, he want to kill that spider lady
pos2 should be your main tank which is hogan
pos5 should be another tank to help which is golus
pos1 estrilda
pos3 is mirael
AFK rewards, give to saveas, make him lvl 81 while the rest stuck at 61 is fine
@light elm A line up
@trim dock try lucius nemora athalia belinda/saveas khasos/hogan
can I get some help with this fight? I keep getting steamrolled
Use more lightbearers since you're up against a lot of Maulers.
@wheat patio overlevel shemira for now
@somber hemlock Belinda will be your best friend
@light elm like level her more?
@frigid portal would you recommend I reset one of them and give the levels to a lightbearer?
Do you have access to the Resonating Crystal?
@wheat patio saveas golus skreg numisu + hogan
position them anywhere, as long saveas pos3 should be fine
and please reset shemira and nemora and make your saveas lvl 81
the rest can have same level
@somber hemlock try saveas bot and arden top
I do
@light elm alright
The Resonating Crystal will be your best friend. Don't bother resetting anyone
u can reset to go above the lvl cap
@somber hemlock how does that work?
@somber hemlock if you have arden L+ you will pass this stage using RNG's help
pos1 lyca, pos2 brutus, pos3 saveas , pos4 arden, pos5 nemora
the only thing you need is
Lvl 141 arden [ not 140 ], lvl 121 minimal for brutus arden nemora , lvl 160 saveas with best gear
easy skyrocket those chapter as long RNG helps you
Hey this is my account , cant beat this boss fight but i might be able when i get the gear from day five reward and put it on my tank
lets say u have 5 legendary heros those will max at 140 and ur mains are elite+ - elite ur elite+ will max at 120 but if u lvl the legendarys and put the elites on reso the elites will reach 140
@silent terrace ye i would do that but rng not loving me :c
ohhh I see I see @somber hemlock
@silent terrace does it matter that saveas is only rare?
@wheat patio as of now, you can't have more than lvl 100 heroes, so rarity of saveas still have no problem on your case
but as you progress, focus on getting saveas L+ , be it level, rarity, or gear it will helps a lot
saveas is best solo carry until campaign's enemy have lvl 160+
@somber hemlock if you're talking RNG in battle, you playing with wilder means abuse cc
abuse cc means abuse that retry button ** as long as you have putted your heroes on the best possible position **
if you're talking RNG on summon, yea we feel you bro ๐
@sullen lava Iโm way late because I got busy with RL shit, but thank you so much! I nailed 10-4 with the lineup you gave me. Props man, thanks!
@pale kettle gz bro
11-32 help please
@cedar meteor um reset belinda give 141 to arden
pos1 brutus
pos2 lyca
pos5 saveas
pos3 nemora
Pos4 arden
keep retry button until you win, if you're tired, give it a day, give level to saveas until he's 160 using afk reward and you should win some day if RNG helps you
KK I will try that, thanks
I tried that, but my Brutus and Lucius gets destroyed so not sure how you did it
Stuck on 9-38 for 3 days. Any advice? Lol I have almost given up. Will be 5-6 days before I get enough dust to 121 anyone else
I'm currently using Grezhul, Brutus, Shemira, Ferael, Estrilda. Who should I replace to put in Isabella? (I'm building Grave)
RNG sometime carry you lazy , what @velvet cliff says can possibly helps too
fawkes must catch enemy saveas, and theoritically you can win
and give best gear to lucius to guarantee he use shield before he die
@silent terrace both haha xD
Maybe it's the Fawkes ๐ค
And i'm playong lucius with this atefact
@marble stump replace estrilda
grezhul brutus tank
Allright, thanks :D I was thinking Ferael not good enough, but I guess 4 grave is better
@marble stump TBH 4grave + brutus is better than what u mentioned
but i'm not saying they are the best for your case, i'm just answering your question, as their level are still considered low therefore no point using them as your main
before you meet enemy's campaign hero lvl 160++ , using saveas as your main line up is still the best in my opinion
Hmm i see yeah. Just started and kinda wanna build what I'll use for long time
Stuck on 11-16, and I donโt have the heroes to get Brutus to L/L+; suggestions?
I have a full faction team of light ppl should I still push in Brutus? Stuck on some random level full of grave born..
@crisp whale I would swap the positions of savaes and Belinda.. you need to kill the enemy savaes first. Also maybe change nemora for arden and hopefully rng snare the right enemies
@scarlet kraken thank you, I will try that!
I'm stuck at 8-32 and floor 109 for 2 days now.. any suggestions or just need more lvls?
@strong swallow brutus is really good try to get him ascended when u can. use your wilders to beat the full graveborn team
can anyone help? stuck in 11-26, canโt even kill enemy saveas. should i just wait for a couple of days or any suggestion?
@pale kettle post what 8-32 looks like itโs hard to help when we canโt see what youโre facing. @median star you have no real cc, I would use arden even though heโs a wilder vs maulers, his snare is op. Hopefully he rngโs savaes
@scarlet kraken This was my first Brutus ever and I'm starting to slow down getting gems, but I'll defo push my other high ascended maulers at him if ever possible. I'll try the wilders right away!
@crisp whale your case probably should be fine if u replace nemora with fawkes, even elite fawkes will do the trick
as long fawkes catch enemy saveas
What's the best lineup for arena? My current team always lose when defending
@silent terrace thanks! I haven't used Fawkes a lot; would his main purpose here be reducing Saveas's haste?
To put him away so he canโt att
@median star dont ever try kill enemy saveas in the beginning
you must focus to kill that morvus
morvus barrage slows your own saveas
so first priority is him, therefore put saveas at pos 5
dont put shemira on your line up, shemira is dps , saveas is dps, both dps in one place never works
fawkes will be do better to give you better bonus , and as long your fawkes get enemy saveas, that should do the trick, can also try belinda if you frustate your fawkes doesn't want to catch enemy saveas
lucius can't be pos 1, he will just die before shield, perhaps thane will do better at pos1, lucius must use shield on this case
Ok sorry.. here
@velvet cliff @silent terrace thank you passed 11-32 ๐
@crisp whale fawkes as long can CATCH him at the beginning, will mean your tank wont die too fast
therefore you have a lot of time on 5 vs 4 condition for 7second
since you use saveas as well, that condition will be easily become 5 vs 3 and the next few second become 5 vs 4 because enemy saveas come back
then wait for enemy saveas to use his healing [ the green buff around him ], then your immediately fawkes use his ult
@cedar meteor GG
@cedar meteor i didnt help much on this one, all goes to @velvet cliff , OP fawkes xD
@scarlet kraken thanks for the input will try@silent terrace i tried using fawkes, he captured morvus instead of saveas, i will try with other formation cause anyone i put in pos 1 will die easily. anyway thanks for the help, iโll try other formations๐๐ป
Had to buy Fawkes from shop to make him Elite+ and one enhance on Brutus' armor to last long enough to cast ult
oof no luck, i'll keep leveling up I guess T_T"
@pale kettle You need a faction bonus. Try replacing a non Lightbearer with Athalia
@silent terrace anyone i put in pos 3 also died easily๐
I'll try it now
Anyway can someone help me? :D
@shy mirage shemira pre 161 can't tank shit
she will just die, dont let her tank hahaha
@silent terrace thanks for the explanation! so from what i'm hearing, fawkes has a similar role to tasi? I'm using him right now, unfortunately his survivability is super low... is there any way i can position him so he survives long enough to use the confine ability?
Lol I see ๐ . What do you suggest @silent terrace ?
@silent terrace managed to pass, thanks for the help๐๐ป๐๐ป
@crisp whale fawkes compared to tasi on this case, should be better , as long he catch enemy saveas his job is basically done..
if u can use fawkes's ult is considered even better, but nonetheless, as long he can catch enemy saveas, that's already 7s, 5 vs 4 should be enough ๐
Sucks writing a message with attachments, but the images end up being over 8mb and your message disappears. SIGH
@shy mirage omg I love you!!! With 1 second left lmao
@silent terrace that makes sense, thanks again! :)
@pale kettle hahaha no prob
@shy mirage thane instead of shemira is best for you buddy
as for fawkes/belinda/raine, i believe u want to replace him with brutus
thane is your main dps anywhere at pos3/4/5 doesn't matter
brutus main tank pos 1
lucius should be on pos2
raine/belinda helps with thane since they both increase thane's crit, at some point
as for fawkes, he is GUARANTEED to win against anyone who use saveas as their main damage
i am saveas's main damage team, everytime i fight LB team, if i see fawkes , i will not fight them
but if enemy doesn't have saveas or shemira on GB team, your fawkes value drop a lot
therefore i will leave it to you to chose
raine / belinda / fawkes , which 1 should be removed here xD
Stuck on 6-24. I'm assuming I just need levels, but could you advice on whether I'm focusing the wrong units, as well. I could have an e+ vedan or e+ silvina, but not both unless I wait. Full roster in album.
Anyone know what I can possibly do to finish this godforsaken level of a game, itโs been like 5 days
@thin vector get rid of numisu, use shemira or a e+ silvina and you should be good to go, if it still doesnโt work shove all your xp into saveas
@thin vector enemy brutus absorb your saveas damage, that's bad idea
try change saveas with nemora, will result better damage
if still lose, change nemora with any lightbringer to get more bonus therefore your saveas get more damage and other hero get more health
last , WAREK is SHIT pre 161
change him if possible as he will just die
And yes warek is absolute garbage donโt use him
Who should I use instead for my front line, based on my roster?
Hogan ulmus, hogan athelia would be good, as long as it isnโt warek
Ulmus against a mauler team tho? He gets eaten alive
@silent terrace I've been using Thane in my lineup before. But he's still at Elite tier, and because of that, he does no damage and no survivability โน๏ธ ๏ธ. Do you think it's a good idea that I should run full Lightbearer for the faction bonus? +25% HP and ATK must be really useful
@unreal flare donโt use lighting hero. Use same elements.
Which characters should I use for this fight? I used the cart to make almost all characters lv 1 so I could level the characters needed for this, also I'm kinda new to the game so I'm sorry about the lack of characters. (I can level 4 characters to 60 and 1 to 61 if that's needed to help)
Lighting hero. I guess.
@shy mirage without brutus, i believe you will die as u dont have main tank, lucius can't main tank, he died too fast, he can't cast shield all team die, but i might be wrong, try it first maybe
without thane, i dont believe u can have damage at LB team
i dont think it matters if it's elite, as long he can get leveled up using resonance will still be better than what you show just now
also when i say main dps, meaning you gave all resource [ best level best gear , and possibly in the future best rarity ] to him
and since you dont use shemira you need to reset her , to make sure your 4 hero outside of belinda have the same level, only belinda is 141, while the rest have the same level
@dusky hazel cant see your hero pool, show it please
@silent terrace
@dusky hazel
reset your arden , he's still shit at this lvl
4 heroes + saveas
4 heroes ALL must be lvl 41 , you decide which is the 4 heroes according this criteria at below,
while the remaining resources give to saveas
hogan is a must, estrilda is a must
the remaining 2, choose 2 from fawkes / angelo / ankihra
position :
pos2 should be any mage that silvina target
pos5 should be your saveas
pos1 should hogan
pos3 the other hero you chose that is not targeted by silvina
pos4 estrilda
good luck on winning
@silent terrace I use Dura's Call on Lucius so he can cast his ult early. Maybe I'll replace Raine since she has no CC (except for that one useless skill). I'll need Fawkes for CC and Belinda for a second DPS hero in case Thane dies ๐
@shy mirage sounds good, best of luck friend, LB team really performs well 200-220 as my guild master chapter campaign is far higher than other people same level with him
lower level such as your case, wont perform much, but think of it as investment perhaps xD
also, in your case, you have a lot of LB with good rarity, so probably you are on the right track to invest on LB's path xD
@GFL Does this seem alright for a lvl 27?
@wide dove i guess.. although i would suggest saveas if you have instead of fawkes , even if it's blue rarity, will perform better
Ok, tx
@silent terrace Thanks for the help. I hope I can defend successfully this time in arena. I'll let you know if I've defended or if I've been still getting crushed by enemies in a row ๐.
Btw I still have no gold on upgrading heroes lol
@shy mirage brutus pos1, lucius pos2 perhaps better, you want to make brutus low health ASAP, to get more damage as pos1 receive damage from 3 hero and pos2 receive damage from 2 hero
Hi, can someone help me, i need line up for pve (still in 4-32)
Possible lineup upgrades? Ive tried a few things out but havent worked out yet.
Hard stage...may de-level backline a few to beef tanks or might just have to wait couple days for xp
Then again I have 34 arena tickets..........hmmm
Just got safiya is she any good? Is she better than numisu?
She sounds interesting to me
@grim hatch reset shemira, get it to lvl 120
so does arden,
now give saveas lvl 141
should do better result than current situation
not guaranteed will win, but should give better result for sure
in addition, make brutus at pos1, and lucius at pos2 so brutus eat isabela damage, not lucius
Would it be wise to swap out Arden for nemora?
Any help?
@junior hound yeah, tasi lyca nemora is actually a beast lineup
Got it, thanks!! @rotund girder
lol its ok got it @silent terrace by switching up brutus with lucius
what's the best squad i can make?
Hey people, currently in 8-25 with enough to make L, Shemira,Saveas and one from Lucius/Belinda/Thane
Which one would you propose Lucius or Belinda?
I was thinking of Lucius, but not really sure though
no Brutus yet ๐ฆ
Iโm hard stuck. Any help is appreciated
Any tips for lineupss? On 8-20 atm
I know I am low level, but I could any advice someone has to give, I am stuck at 4-36. My chars are 51 and 50, boss and all mobs are 57. All content is on cooldown, and King's Tower is same position of much higher level mobs.
Here is my available summons:
Suggestions? Donโt really have any wilders and itโs killing me.
6-28 help plz.. following the guide in pins but still stuck.
@hearty seal click the clover at the top left sometime. You gotta get 3 of the same faction on your team at least. I'd try replacing saveas or nemora for vedan.
@hardy fog I think Mirael should be in the middle. Try switching Belinda between the top and bottom and see what happens. Chapter 6 is pretty hard in general, compared to 5
Waiting game at 12-1 again I figure. The order is the one i had at 11-40 but nothing gets even close now
@proper lodge click the clover at the top left of the battle screen sometime and read through it. Try switching out saveas with Ira. That's not the best setup and it costs 20 gems to test, but till you draw some more units it might be the best available
mireal gets one shot at start..this level so hard
@pale kettle to get the extra buff, ok I will give it a shot, thank you
Yeah saveas is bas before 61 because he doesnt regen and just kills himsele
@pale kettle the extra buff isn't mandatory at all
Like, removing saveas for a lil buff isn't really a good idea imho ^^
Any advice for 11-20?
@rotund girder in my experience, it's mandatory. Not a big deal to disagree.
@wet sonnet same advice I've been giving for awhile. What happens if you switch out shemira and Arden with Belinda and Raine?
@pale kettle hm no, not when it kills a synergy with the strongest heroes u have, maybe you never had to break the buff but sometimes it's better.
@rotund girder his saveas is rare+. It's not his strongest unit, and I don't see how it synergizes with his team.
@rotund girder I think people overrate the highest tiered characters. If my opponent has no faction buff, I tend to beat much higher rated teams than mine.
Should i make Belinda รคr Hogan my first L?
Which relic for labyrinth?
I i need one more rare saveas to make him L aswellllll
Yo why is 14-12 eating me alive
@thorn moth don't consume Belinda as fodder. If you're using Hogan as a tank, I'd wait on making Bel legendary
Ps I also just ate Belinda bahaha
I got 3 hogan E+ and one Belinda E+
Yo Shane help a brother out xD
So my plan was to consume my 2 spare Hogans
@thorn moth make Bel legendary then. Imo at least
Alrighttt thanks mate
@frank dune I haven't even got that far into chapter 14 lol I'm on 14-4
@frank dune do you have mythic tank gear? Only reason I get away with using elite ezizh is by putting two mythics on him. You can nab mythics at 40% off on floor 3 of lab (if you didn't know)
@wet sonnet pump up that saveas, 147 is rookie level
Idk what mythic tank gear is tbh
@frank dune the red stuff :p
stuck uwu
Didnโt know about that so thank you. I think Iโm just under leveled
@frank dune idk, it seems like you should switch up your hero lineup somehow but I don't see a clear answer. Ezizh works wonders for me in 4:1, but you've got a Lucius and Shemira already so I feel like he should be changed to someone else. I try to run nothing under 3:2 faction bonus wise tbh
Omg I have a lot to learn because idk what youโre saying in terms of terms
@frank dune click the clover at the top left and give it a read
@vestal geyser try switching estrilda to either a graveborn or a Wilder. You'll get some bonuses that way. I can't see your hero list, else I'd recommend something
Hmm ๐ค interesting - if I use ezizh then no other faction will apply right
hey if anyone above chapter 9 can help me with my lineup dm me, better than msging here
@frank dune I use 4:1 lightbearers/ Ezizh, so I get both the benefits of 4 lights and the 30% defense from Ezizh
Or you could just screenshot the matchup and your team and if people got suggestions they'll tell ๐ค @frozen jolt
ye im trying to figure out who to level up to legfendary + and shit
and am bouncing back and forth between chats so itll be easier in a dm xd!
@pale kettle i only have those wilders haha
@vestal geyser and graveborn?
only them :c
@vestal geyser I see a rare+ graveborn. I'm not talking about just elites
@vestal geyser if that's the case, using shemira as a tank and replacing estrilda with nemora might work
yea i thought the same too
still stuck on 9-20 even with the lineup @pale rover recommended.
iโm getting closer, but i canโt take out a single one of their heroes
Did you swap gear too? Your hero levels are close but your rating feels low
iโve been enhancing all of the gear on these heroes just to pass this stage, with no avail
I just reset all my heroes to 1, would anyone mind suggesting a lineup for last half of stage 6 and onwards? (6-28 currently)
Any advice? That's just a test lineup
Halp plox! Currently 6-28... heroes reset and spent a few on packs to level up.
Any ideas , guys , please
@still oar help dad
Lyca luc
Arden nem sav @unique vapor
thanks
anyone?
You can't replace Arden with tasi+call
@hardy fog tbh, I'm pretty biased towards lightbearers. I want to say Hogan/Lucius/Belinda and then possibly tasi lyca, but your Lucius is elite and Hogan isn't great. I'm kinda iffy
not work D:
@pale kettle Yeah I'm not getting very much luck
@grizzled galleon you should get three of a faction at least. Lucius/Belinda/Raine is a good combo. Then a Fawkes and a tank brings you to at least 4:1
Apparently my estrilda is gone, and if only I could get grezhul...........
Hey you all, stuck for 4 days idek anymore, they are killing me so fast :/
What about belinda+, Hogan+, lucius, vedan+ and shemira...or do I NEED a support for stages6+?
@unique vapor try replace Arden with tasi+ call
Luc lyca
Nemora tasi sav.
You need some head banging for this one
You can try shemira but I don't think tasi and luc can survive while waiting Shem to ult
@hoary terrace replace Silvina with Raine. Saveas or nemora might need to be swapped out too but I don't see your full hero list
Stuck on 8-32. Thinking I may just need to sit for xp.
@hoary terrace you have the units to make the squad I use. Lucius/Ezizh frontline, Belinda/Raine/Fawkes backline. Ezizh needs some good gear to be viable at elite though
Okey, thank you. Imma try that out
@loud scroll get saveas to 120 instead of silvina, then try out saveas,golus,lyca,nemora and arden. what you want to do is kill niru first if possible
Ordered like that, if Ezizh lives long enough @hoary terrace
@pale kettle where does that line up help you to in campaign now ?
Thanks Iโll give it a go
Who should I make 140 next? My current main team up to 11-24 is Lucius, saveas, tasi, Arden, nemora. I would say I bring Arden next to 140. Lucius seems to be tanky enough atm.
@grim hatch I'm in 14-4
@pale kettle thats awesome, ty
@fossil moth if you can get arden to 141 thats 3 roots :)
@pale kettle you have 2 mythics xD no surprise you're at chap 14 xD
@grim hatch for the record, I wrecked the arena team you see that's higher ascended lol though that's because my opponent doesn't know how to use faction bonuses
did you use that same lineup for chapter 11 ? idk if I want to give up my L+ saveas and Epic brutus for Epic Ezizh and L belinda
I'm using brutus, saveas, belinda, lucius and fawkes right now
I think I was using 3-2 lights/wilders at that time because I didn't draw a Ezizh yet. Imo you should give it a shot. You'd go from 15% bonus to 15% atk, 20% hp, 30% defense. And imo Brutus doesn't synth well with Lucius
might give it a try later on, my gear sucks tho. still using epic+ gears except for agi heroes with full legendary equipments
@pale kettle is it worth to get raine to legendary then?
Mine is still a base elite lol it's only worth it if your Raine is dying. Otherwise it's better to keep ascending Bel or Lucius
Any advice for 8-40. I get melted so fast
@fresh star shemira/Ezizh frontline, Belinda, Raine, (thane or estrilda) maybe. Don't see many faction combos available
Yea my ascended heroes are all over the place
im stuck on 9-20, i dont know with whom to switch brutus/athalia since i cannot ascend them yet
@tribal loom switch athalia for vedan and Brutus for any E+. Then you can level your first 4 to 140, and the last to 120. Your blue units (resonating) will then be lv120 instead of 100. You can still use athalia and brutus for fights and they will even be a bit stronger than currently
ah okay, thank you<33
What's the best squad i can make?
@sacred relic I'd replace vedan with morvus, elite Mirael when you make one, or some mauler.
How should I proceed? I'm just into chapter 7
Best lineup?
@granite wigeon sometimes it's easier to see who to ascend if you look at each faction one at a time. Merging your three rare+ maulers to elite golus will let you make a second elite+ golus. You can use this unit as fodder for another to become legendary at some point
I just don't wanna get rid of anyone I may need later
Could someone help me with 6-12
Heroes available as rares generally are never wasted. Saveas and mirael are pretty good legendary tiers though
As a rule of thumb, don't use ascended tier heroes as fodder
im really stuck on this leve, i was just wondering if anyone could help
@shut harness I'm looking at your heroes, trying to figure out a way for you to get a faction advantage. You gotta replace either saveas or khasos with a Wilder
Or Hogan with a mauler. That'd probably be better
isn't hogan a lightbearer though?
Messed up a but, replacing khasos with a lightbearer wouldn't help
6-12 has 4 maulers so wouldnt it be worse to have more wilders
On the battle screen, tap the clover at the top left. I'm trying to get a faction bonus. A Wilder tank would be pretty bad, so we gotta replace Hogan
This might be stupid but change out Hogan for numisu real quick and see how long numisu lasts. Mauler mages have fairly good defense so wanna see where that brings us
since hogan is a lightbearer, which means they have factional advantage over maulers, wouldn't it be the best scenario to have a lightbearer tank?
swapping out hogan w/numisu doesn't make a diff
@shut harness lightbearers deal more damage to maulers, but maulers don't deal less damage to lightbearers. Hogan's damage is fairly negligible anyways
Yeah, didn't think there was a good chance of that working. You might have to AFK a bit and wait for more heroes.
@sacred relic probably Brutus and golus or Estrilda front, Saveas Belinda and mirael in back. And redo your levels once you get the resonating crystal so you have Belinda and 4 Elite+ as your pentagram units.
@rugged vessel Thanks man!
Didn't see you only have mirael at R+, maybe Angelo in back instead. Can be pretty flexible with the resonating crystal system fortunately. You're probably best off with a 3 2 faction split regardless though
I guess ill have to get some levels and rely on tasi magic for 12-8
Try getting Fawkes from gladiator coins, his CC is helpful for cheesing the RNG. Arden too
Lightbringer wont relly fit on though
Can get it down to khazoz and saveas with kaz but they do too much for my saveas to sustain
any suggestions?
@proven rune did you try numisu mid and saveas where seirus stands ? There are 3 ST enemy heroes, totems can help
Currently using Lucius/saveas, Belinda/nemora/athalia for wrizz, any better recommends?
Any tip on 9-20?
Any advice?
@hollow harness saveas doesn't last a second if i put him on frontline
Is it worth ascending my lucius to leg? I wouldn't level him past 120 still as I am trying to get thane to 141. I would lose my elite+ hogan and have to use an elite estrilda
Best lineup for Soren?
@oak raven ascend lucias with hogan and morvus, donโt waste raine because she synergies really well with Belinda as u can see she makes a big difference with Belinda
Saveus literally one-two shots anyone input in front of him and then my whole team dies. Help!
Just got some more heroes..estrilda, Fawkes, khanos.. still on 6-28. Need line up. I can reset heroes just wanted to beat this lvl
Can anyone help me beat 7-16?
@hardy fog No point in having second Belinda on crystal. Get her to legend soon, she would of carried you better than leg+ hogan try Lucius/Hogan Belinda tasi lycq
This is in labryinth
Tasi and lyca? 2 supports? I mean I'll try it so sick of this lvl
@glossy bane try switching Belinda to bottom and swap maulers for thoran and shem and put Fawkes top
Never mind I seemed to have gotten it
Should I get any of my wilder fodder to legendary? Have 6 elite+. I don't use Wilders in build currently due to thane, Belinda, lucius, hogan, saveass,
@shut parrot That worked, Shem stopped Mirael. ty
@oak raven you can make arden leg using ira or ogi
@oak raven with ogi, ira it's then leg+ him
Is it worth it tho? Would it be better to save for nemora/eironn? See my edit. I don't use wilder currently
Warek, skreg and golus I can make one of them L should I?
Warek
Those are all pretty garbage tier @hardy fog
Yeah thought so
Warek is used in the championship tourments tho...
That's super late game lol. Most of us are early game still
I started this game 4 days ago, sorry for all the questions
Actually now I kind of do need help
@inland kite have you tried delelving one and using 161 shem to carry? Also you should trade out your lightbearer tanks for others as their graveborn will shred them
@oak raven I'm not so sure about eironn since he's a new hero and we don't know whether he's good or bad. If you dont currently need any cc then dont rush for ascension.
@oak raven you'll have some more wilders soon enough to get another elite+ and get any eleite tier Wilder to legend and use Arden to mythic them
@inland kite is this the last stage? How much stage left do you need to beat?
Its labryinth
But pleassee someone help me against savvvv
@inland kite yeah i know, how much "flag" yet left?
Best lineup for Soren?
@inland kite try different tanks and formations. Exit battle if you are dying too much. Will reset
I'm trying different formations but I'm not very good at the game so I dont know how to play at making one a
@shut parrot you might just need to get a lucky cc or have an assassin help tank a bit
@inland kite okay that's still quite a lot if you're already having trouble. Maybe try
Athalia
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
Saveas
Either you kill shem first or niru
Should I switch estrilda for thoran?
@civic mauve yes, thoran can take damage better
That one killed 2 of them and the rest rolled over me .-.
How do you kill this
@inland kite should I switch anyone else from ther?
@inland kite oh no you lost lucius :(
It's 5:3 you should have won just by numbers alone. But it's not going to be easy afterwards without lucius
@pale kettle Kill them before they root, high damage carry like saveas helps
@inland kite I usually pick whichever has the lower attack rating on 3rd floor.
But how's your relic? I think you're choosing the wrong ones if you're having trouble in labyrinth
@shut parrot thank you soooo much that was easy with 2 supports
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I lost seirus
@olive swift put athalia in front of niru, he needs to be killed asap
(Which one is niru?)
I think he/she meant vedan
@inland kite okay if you still has problem my secret trick is to throw away weak heroes to weaken the enemy first and then attack them with your main team
So swap lucius for Athalia
That's what I figured... still having s lot of problems, it's just my bad luck with this place
Can safely say that did not end well :D
Idk, the main problem in ur team @olive swift is that u don't have enough damages :/
@rotund girder right sorry, I always swap their name
@olive swift how close you are to winning with your main team?
Don't u have any saveas or mirael to carry u until high level?
Who to use to ascend Shemira?
Way away, can't get saveas too high atm idt
@pale kettle vedan, also if not lineup related please go to #classic-questions
@pale kettle vedan and silvina, never use non L+ heroes to ascend
So not double Vedan?
What's silvina's problem?
Yup can't even get him above blue :D
@pale kettle oh nvm, u can double vedan, didn't see the other one
That's better right
Actually nvm I have a purple +1 one, will put him in the crystal and see what happens
I think I'll wait until I can get another tear
@upper path she's an angsty teenager. Whoever she attacks first, put them in fronline so saveas can attack silvina. Preferably in seirus position, swap lyca and saveas position
Tanks die before he does his special
She murders both Saveas and Arden within the first 17 seconds. Nothing much can be done after that.
@inland kite next time choose fire/icebringer, sun/moonstone, haste, whichever helps you heal and gain energy fast, cocoon, and also anything that helps you attack them (arrow from sky, random thunder)
can anyone help me
Why is 9-39 so hard o.O
dont even complain. i cant even beat 9-36
I can trash my vedan and silvinas E+ and make my shemira L is it worth? Then maybe put her in lineup in place for Belinda (only epic)
@upper path how close are you to winning with your current team?
Well can anyone help me ? Hehe๐ ๐
Yeah... I had one of those I think Once
I managed to get to another stage. Even in rerolls elites don't get handled out to me
@ivory walrus try
Fawkes
Brutus
Arden
Seirus
Saveas
Alright now that I
Am done with that... here, back to the chapters
oof nope. i cant have seirus in front line. he dies in 2 hits. might as well have him in backline and hope he keeps knocking people up
@ivory walrus but you cant put cc on frontline too, at least put anyone with high dps as semi tank
ill switch to saveas in front line
rip. hate my life. vedan beats saveas in a 1 v 1
@ivory walrus try again like 100x and pray the rng god is with you
nope vedan is always left alive with saveas
Any suggestions with mine?
frontline belinda against a saveas >.<
@ivory walrus then either you enhance someone gear or you level someone.
@inland kite I am not that far yet but lemme see what I can do
ill wait for guild war to end and if i get lucky with my pulls i can ascend arden to leg+. just need any blue wilder
Arden sucks for me rip
@inland kite whoever gives you the least dps between mirael, belinda and saveas, swap them with a cc (try all combination, you have the holy trinity and fawkes too). I'd suggest lyca first since she can give that haste. That's crucial
question
@ember nebula ascension rules.
- Never fodder ascended heroes.
- If you dont need to ascend anyone (you have no trouble progressing), dont rush in case you have better heroes to ascend.
Who can I change out for Athalia? I just pulled her. Or should I just leave this team alone? Is it already good?
@ember nebula also a lot of people would suggest to ascend saveas and shemira whenever possible as they're hard carry
@pale kettle Athalia doesn't really give high dps but she's great against a troublesome cc (like arden). If your team has no trouble progressing you dont need to swap anyone with athalia
I'm doing fine at the moment so I guess I'll stay with this for a bit. Thanks!
Is she a tank? Maybe I can replace Seirus
Any suggestions?
@last granite i am stuck on 7-40 lol
@pale kettle not really, pretty much people use her to stun the most troublesome enemies so the other can do their ultimate
I see. I'll save her as an ace up my sleeve then. Thank you again!!! 
So I switched estrilda for thoran, but I lost the faction bonus, any thoughts?
@ember nebula you can ascend belinda using 2 hogan (if you dont need him for tank). You can also ascend silvina using niru or vedan whichever you like
@pale kettle god speed soldier 
@civic mauve if you rely heavily on faction bonus it's pretty hard to make a comp. Thoran is a great tank so it's worth trying to fight with him first since estrilda doesn't do much in regards of her skill.
Well the set up i have been using is this and it has been working for me
I'm kinda stuck in 11-31 any tips for a good lineup?
@glad cipher stage screenshot please? so the other could help too
@glad cipher how close are you to winning with this comp?
Well I can kill around 3 enemies with rainee / silvina combo
Anyone help me with a lineup?
@glad cipher does lucius able to use his ultimate? If not then you can try switching him with golus, he's better at taking damage imo
Do I assend?
@last granite Ye he's able to but I silvina dies to early and without her I have 0 damage to kill saveas
@pale flint line up are usually 2 tanks + dps / 2 tanks + dps + cc.
I recommend frontline hogan/brutus golus
Backline belinda shemira tasi
Although backline could def change depending on the enemies
@last granite is my lineup good (top line second pic) or should I assend?
@uneven glen the LB? No dont ascend. Also unrelated to lineup please go to #classic-questions
Ahh okay ty, sorry
Ive been running mainly hogan, brutus; tasi, vurk, shemira but sometimes hit major walls. Wasn't sure if i shoild be focusing on others
Hmmm have 5 141 so all the crystal heroes are 141 or ascent Estrella with a hogan and have only 4 heroes that can hit 141.
@glad cipher I was considering that too since she focus on 1 person and can easily be attacked. You can try switching her with another mage (mirael or belinda) they work well with raine
@uneven glen its okay, your lineup looks good, if you're ever stuck try switching raine with a cc since her role is just to buff others attacks
@pale flint no comp are the ultimate comp, they always change even if its just one hero.
You can keep your main team and change them here and there if you hit major walls.
Also try to level up shemira and saveas as a side project since they're hard carry in later game
@pallid marlin please add screenshot and for questions unrelated to lineup go to #classic-questions. More people could help you there since this channel is focused mostly on lineup
So I'm feeding 2 maulers into the third because i want another leg and I want to do more legend quests.
And before you go "but sir...double-u tee eff mate?" Yes I know it isn't optimal but I'm committed to yolo. Wondering which is the least inoptimal since saveas is obvs good early and skregg is a mythic tier.
Should note i often don't even use saveas given how good my other dps options are now. I just dk much about skregg so yea.
Thoughts on which?
dont feek skregg
@teal glade if you're going yolo then saveas, you're still a long way from mythic tier. Also #classic-questions
Saveas only shines when you level him above the rest. equally leveled saveas is kinda meh
We should really clarify in the rules area what lineup defines as then. Because whoever ascends is going into my general lineup. Space's pinned messages imply general lineup questions are allowed. You guys should update those pins.
Ascencion is acceptable here
Alright cheers. Side note. Epic name.
But people can go to #classic-questions too
i've tried 6-12 nearly 50+ times with different formations and then i go back to my original one which i've tried 20+ times
and for some reason it finally works wtf
have had passes after hundreds of tries
@still oar I actually don't answer ascension questions here as it's not directly lineup related. It could be consequential, but not asking for an actual lineup answer. Just which hero is best to get, basically. I'll ask Space to make it clearer.
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@visual canopy
3-2 Team Bonus
Brutus Lucius/Hogan
Belinda Saveas Fawkes
3-1-1 Team Bonus
Brutus Golus
Saveas Shemira Tasi
Anyone can suggest a line up for me
Thank you dang factions being good
@gleaming jay You're going to need to show your hero list.
any tips?
Prob
Bru lyca
Tasi with call khasos and sav
oh btw im on 11-32
Do you have Fawkes?
121 Shem prob will help too
me? yeah i have fawkes
Try swapping Arden with fawkes
im not using arden atm
kind of all over the place as ive been stuck at this for a few hours
Anyone help me?
Looking at changing up the comp or ascending, any thoughts?
guess ill ask later and see if anyone can help xD
@true coral
Lucius Shemira
Nemora Lyca Arden?
@true coral That's a good team for what you have. Has good defense, damage, and crowd control. If you want Fawkes..
Lucius Shemira
Belinda Fawkes and Raine
Lucius Shemira
Belinda Fawkes Ferael
Thanks for the input I think going with your original line up is best honestly just looking at the alternatives did not make too much sense ๐
@true coral Yes. The alternatives are kind of meh but situationally could work if you're up against Maulers.
can you see what you can perhaps do with mine aero?
Need tipss
Should I summon for wilder or maulers?
I have 2 extra brutus's for legend+ atm
@inland kite
No Team Bonus
Lucius top Niru bottom front
Saveas Belinda Arden back
Ideally you'll do enough damage that your Niru will keep healing and is able to offtank. Arden will hopefully keep them rooted.
@nocturne torrent Wilders have a better pool. Either way it's not a guarantee that you'll get Brutus if you faction pull for Maulers.
Gotcha, yeah thats what I figured, but first time so better safe than sorry haha xD
Thanks~
yeah my abilities are not going off unfortunately before they die
I swear end lvls of stage 6 is not easy at all. This is 6-38. Suggestions?
@inland kite That means ascensions.
@hardy fog Your team's okay. It's ascensions. I would also have to say a bit of levels..
@pale rover what would you change on my lineup? 
oh yeah i understand that.. just its gonna take me a long time now rip to even do that
I have 2 lightbearer factional gear pieces if that matters....oh ok so I made it to the afk part of the game
Who should i buy in the lab store?
@pale kettle Place your hero list and the stage in one post, I'll take a look.
@wild snow Shemira.
@pale rover really not nemora to make her leg?
@hardy fog you hit the rng part more like
@wild snow I'd rather make Shemira L+ earlier than Nemora so she can be the team carry as soon as possible.
@pale rover 
I got close a few times but scaeva so op
Ok thank you @pale rover
@pale kettle triple stack cc and go for rng
@pale kettle
Shemira isn't a reliable carry yet before 161. She's situationally only able to work in front if you overlevel her.
Brutus Grezhul
Shemira Tasi Arden/Silvina (team bonus)
You can also try @split prairie suggestion.
@hardy fog try putting Belinda in position 5 and five it 10 tryes or si
Five it?
Position 5, southern most spot on backline
Okay this is labryinth boss 3, any tips?
@pale rover ok I'll try! Thanks
@split prairie I've tried man this
annoying
Should I feed Warek to Brutus?
@deep comet No.
@pale kettle yeah that's where rng can either be amazing or screw you, it took me 30 or so tries to finally get it with same comp
What heroes should i use for adventure?
What did you use @split prairie
@deep comet no
@sudden heath depends on where you're at
Chapter 9
@sudden heathi personally cheesed through 9 stacking heavy CC's with Belinda+lucious
@sudden heath you are at stage 9 with these heroes?
Chapter 9 yeah.
@split prairie my belinda is only epic rip
Is Lucius/Brutus FL, Saveas/Lyca/Nemora the best comp I can run atm?
@sudden heath your toons are so much further than what I had in 9, you should be able to breeze through it
I cant tho :(
@manic ivy lyca/tasi/nemora
Maybe it's the positioning
@sudden heath this is me at 10-19
What the heck.
@wild snow is it really worth replacing Saveas this early?
@sudden heath shemira is not a carry till 161+ that might be hurting you instead of helping tbh
And that is me at 10-23
@sudden heath you need to cc their ccs
I tried running arden but it was worse than nemora
Where's the formation buffs tho?
@sudden heath try using athalia for their ardrn
@sudden heath try lucius, estrilda/hogan, fawkes, belinda and saveas
@vale krakentop left corner, see the peacock looking symbol
I dont have lucius and fawkes
@sudden heath I would reset shemira, raise saveas to 140 and estrida, grezhul and shemira to 121
Oh ok
I wasnt looking for it . These teams here in this channel dont use formation buffs XD
I'm similar level and just beat my roadblock after replaced shemira to saveas as carry
@sudden heath try athalia vs their arden, change nem for arden
anyone perhaps can give advice on the team in my labryinth?
Could also use 3 maulers to give you the buff with those 2, and of course good rng for roots
level up ur heroes bud
o7
@rocky wasp Hogan estrilda front with saveas nemiru and the centaur guy or hogan the lich king person front with shem isabella and nemiru backline maybe (I dont remember names dont judge me)
@inland kite arden instead of brutus
Dies someone have some tips for me and my hero build? And how can i lvl up my heroes if i dont have enough blue hero exp bubble things?
Woohoo I did it
@pale rover my heroes list
Wait that was an old one
@hardy fog gzz
Maybe someone?
@inland kite do you really leveled 9 heroes??
um no, thats labryinth
Oh ok haha got shocked
@exotic nova u need more heroes tbh xd
im on the boss and almost finished, just stuck and have no clue of what to do until i can get a dura's tear somehow before reset
@inland kite replace mirael with belinda
Also just got rein I herar she is good
@inland kite niru to mirael so u get bonus, you need bonus..
also shemira shouldn't tank
then brutus pos1, pos2 athalia, pos3 can be shemira
@inland kite cant you attack with more teams?
@exotic nova dony split your xp to other units besides your main 5
Im stuck at 12-12 any experienced players online who can help me
i dont have enough heroes to attack multiple times
@south herald iยดm just lvl 27 and i spend every diamond i get for new heros...
luke, its a game of patience, you legit have to wait and just do things as they come.
12-12
ewwww
@clear wind should i reset the others to refound the materials iยดve invested to them?
Yes
11-32 please assist ๐
thats legit where im stuck LMAO
any advice what kind of heros i shold take @clear wind
@inland kite brutus top front shem back top belinda middle niru bottom front athlooa bottom back for labyriinth
so its one of those i should keep trying with that formation even if it fails ? @shut parrot
@proud compass might want fawkes instead of khasos / belinda
and your saveas should be on pos5 to kill angelo fast
if fawkes catch enemy saveas, you should win in theory
use your brutus to absorb enemy saveas damage, so pos1 = brutus, pos2 = lucius
Frontline: Sirius and Hogan. Backline: kaz, nemora, and ira @exotic nova
@silent terrace I donโt have Fawkes
@inland kite mhm. Try switching them around and then start replacing units until you see improvement. Sometimes itโs the different of a few crits and ccs in the right place
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yeah... i guess so, ive just been trying for probably about 3-4 hours off and on
Whaaaaat thatโs crazy. After i passed lvl 40 ive havent had to use duraโs tears or revive more than 2 heroes :0. I wonder if it spikes later again
what artifact should i give belinda? eye, call, grace or drape?
it goes mostly based off of overall exp, also depends on your luck, ive been stuck several times.
@proud compass then you're doomed, but anyway, let's fix your current position
not gonna help you win, but at least make you stronger than currently
pos1 should be brutus to absorb enemy saveas
pos2 lucius
pos3 perhaps belinda is better
pos4 khasos so he can hit everyone
pos5 saveas , your target is angelo, if angelo die, your saveas should be able solo the remaining, but your saveas level is too low to be able to win enemy saveas , perhaps you want to reset brutus to 141 and your own saveas get lvl 154 should be better deal
good luck
More than 70 attempts to get the rng for this level
@inland kite eye and call work
arden 140 is shit, arden 141 is god
no bonus = rip team
btw, niru can't tank shit, he is best at pos4
its only no bonus cause ive been experimenting for a while.
so yeah, no bonus is a rip
and i cant get arden to 141 until i ascend belinda anyway
ive been back and forth with both of these for the past 4-6 hours
show me all heroes , maybe i can help @inland kite
@silent terrace Remember me? My lineup didn't do well in arena lol. Only successfully defended one time.
FINALLY cleared labryinth
Anyway how do I get past 11-16?
@inland kite i swear i saw brutus L for your lineup when i scroll above...
if you have brutus elite + lyca + nemora + arden must be lvl 141 minimum and saveas must be minimum 145 , you will win this round easily
since that's not the case, let's try something else
i wish i had brutus
why put raine in front?
but yeah, i can get saveas leveled, hes legendary +
Lol she was in backline before
i just need some heroes essence
I was experimenting positions and thought Raine should be just used as food instead lol
thats me with silviana
reset mirael reset niru
saveas must be 145 so he can 1 vs remaining enemy hero at the end
let's use lucius and fawkes, so we just need to focus 2 more hero
lucius can't tank enemy saveas in theory, we dont want him to die, so probably we need hogan in this case
hogan be pos1, he will tank saveas damage
lucius at pos4 to help heal
pos3 fawkes
pos5 saveas
pos2 can be any tank, perhaps estrilda
if u dont have 3 str gear, then pos2 is lucius while pos4 is belinda
good luck, hope for your fawkes to catch enemy saveas, if he didnt catch saveas, immediately retry as you will lose guaranteed
oh? reset mirael and niru?
@shy mirage Arden instead of shem
Ok I'll try
crap thats a lil rough xDDD mirael is a heavier hitter than belinda sadly
@shy mirage it might take quite a few tries to get good rng for roots
@split prairie And where do I put Arden?
@shy mirage try him in each spot on the backline a few tries, try for save being double rooted
so i guess i really do gotta give up on mirael
Halp
If you are gonna ask who to ascend or any question that is not related to lineup please ask in #classic-questions
@inland kite you had saveas, who cares about other dps
no other dps can match saveas damage pre 160
other dps will just make your team weaker
saveas strat is , give all resource to him, and buy him as much time as possible to own enemy
2 dps [ saveas + other ] meaning you lack tank / cc ,
and will result your team die faster, therefore lack damage from your saveas
and from what i observe, you can have 2 dps but it will be worse than just focus buying time for your saveas solo dps , as long saveas highest resource, he can carry easily
@split prairie I tried and it didn't work. Arden didn't use his roots and kept casting shield on my hero on position 2 which is Brutus
@shy mirage it's rng, need him alive long enough to cast, will create a 5v3 situation for long enough to hammer down some dps
@clear wind can i use Vurk instead of Ira? http://prntscr.com/ntety3
@shy mirage brutus instead of shemira
reset your shemira and give the exp so that everyone else beside belinda and lucius have higher exp
brutus pos1, lucius pos2, the rest just hope to clear..
Today I will get 10 faction scrolls, which one should I summon?
@exotic nova no you need the faction boost especially at that low of a level
okido, i didnยดt notice that^^๐
So @silent terrace I did that and now it reset all my other heroes to 1 on the crystal
@inland kite level them back then, the key point here is getting everyone same level, your shemira is lvl 140 , but u dont use her.. that resource can make 3 other hero lvl 137-138
i dont have a shemira
@inland kite oh yea, then niru and mirael
basically if u dont use them, reset them and give best resource to saveas, please just scroll up and see what i type, i type it clearly enough ๐ try to read it, and ask me again if u still dont understand
ok i see...4 wilders so it gives +15%ATK and +20%HP...nice bonus esecial for nemora because her abilitys skales with max. HP.... @clear wind
What heroโs should I start focusing on?
@clear wind 4 times +2,1k heal from nemora^^ gg http://prntscr.com/ntexu6
aaight saveas is now 158, getting close to being able to do it XD just gotta wait on resources now @silent terrace
@inland kite show me the current line up again, good job btw
i tried resetting niru to give exp to arden and them, but then it resets my crystal to 1 and it says i have to get them to 100 to level him
i think you still misunderstand hauhauhua
??? im resetting heroes to give to saveas
Just bought a bunch of packs and got summons. What should my main team comp be?
@pale kettle god im so envy you
you could almost get L+ brutus muahaha
btw , REMEMBER This Advise :
saveas priority to get L+, just dont use brutus as fodder
2nd priority, arden L+
it will help you a lot until chapter 13 cleared
as of now, you must get level 101 saveas 101 brutus, 100 golus, belinda and lucius must be on same level, i suppose you can get them to level 87
that will be your current team
on campaign, you can keep switching belinda to athalia depending on the enemy
i would use brutus nemora front line with saveas lyca arden back line.. (always put nemora vs the weaker side) if does not work take lyca out put nemora back line and darius in front
How should I make my setup for 8-40?
@brittle summit pos1 brutus
Pos2 belinda
pos3 fawkes
pos4 estrilda
pos5 saveas
try and feel the difference
how many dust essence you currently have?@exotic nova
I took your advice from this morning and it's been treating me well enough so far @silent terrace, thanks a ton
@exotic nova reset your hogan
hogan lv 41
get your ira to lvl 61
remaining resource give to kaz
best agi gear, give to ira, if your kaz has better agi gear, give to ira
best str gear, give to seirus
pos 1 = seirus
pos2 = hogan
pos3 = nemora
pos4 = kaz
pos5 = ira
I'm using Seveas instead of Ferael. I guess that I saw Ferael's stun passive and thought him to be good lol
@pale kettle huehueuhe im happy for you buddy
@silent terrace tried the setup out, but still getting beaten.
@brittle summit show all hero perhaps, so i can ask you to reset some and change your line up
guys i need help, what should my lineup be? pls help me
@silent terrace
@twilit bobcat pos1 brutus
pos2 hogan
pos3 golus
pos4 saveas
pos5 athalia,
best agi gear on saveas, best str gear on brutus, try it
okay okay, imma try it now. thanks! ๐
Yo i started a week ago and i'd like to know if i can improve my lineup, thanks for the help
Am i just underleveled? This is stage 11-24
Hello, was wondering if nemora would be a better buy from labyrinth shop than shemira to keep the set effect
@brittle summit be patient okay
took out warek, took out silvina from reso crystal, tomorrow, put ankhira and golus inside
then reset belinda, and estrilda, then manually level 5 highest hero to lvl 117
5 highest hero should be, saveas, belinda, estrilda, mirael , ira
remaining resource, make 5 highest hero to lvl 118 or 119
now position
1 = brutus
2 = ankhira
3 = golus
4 = khasos
5 = saveas
best str gear to brutus ,
if you happen to not have 3 str gear, replace golus / khasos to athalia
if you happen to use athalia, athalia must be on pos3, athalia can't be on pos4
@silent terrace, i beat 6-36, thanks so much!!! ๐
@subtle current basically you have to reset 5 highest hero
first, make sure 5 highest hero lvl 121 by MANUALLY
resetting 1 hero and level to 121, 1 by 1, then reset again 1 more, level again until 121 etc until 5 times
then, level up saveas to 145 [ saveas, minimal must have 1 level higher than enemy level, even better if saveas reach 160 as long other hero lvl 121 ]
then the remaining level them to the same level
best agi gear give saveas
pos1 should be brutus
pos2 should be lucius
the backline is good enough
should provide BETTER result but no guarantee killing the round, but 100% guaranteed BETTER result
help
11-40, I've tried every possible combination of heroes/formation I could think of, my Brutus typically dies after he ults once (to very little effect) and before Lucius can shield, the backline gets sniped by Mirael's/Morvus' ultimates and Lucius is shit at dps despite the 12k attack lol
help
Where should i use my 10 faction scrolls?
Probably LB
@reef flower using shem not 161 wont provide better result on your case
since u can use saveas to get more buff, and saveas deal more damage than your shemira
you also can't get shemira to 161, so i would recommend change saveas to shemira
then swap saveas to belinda
you must kill morvus , as morvus can slow your team with his skill
if fawkes guaranteed trap morvus, then saveas at shemira place, to guaranteed kill spider lady
although i'm not confident u can kill it, because your solo carry is lvl 140 and your defend is 161
lucius will survive but he can't solo carry
perhaps show me all other hero so i can see which other formation possible to play turtle strategy
[ you focus on lucius 161 meaning you focus on defend instead of attack, clearing campaign from what i know can't rely on defend, but perhaps with other formation we can try something suits your turtle strategy ]
can i improve my team ?
@silent terrace what hero should i buy? http://prntscr.com/ntf9qa
@silent terrace I only got Lucius to 161 because I had the right fodder for him but here's my heroes:
@ivory walrus underleveled
@muted stream all i can do is wait?
Hate to say it but yes @ivory walrus
@muted stream one more question. do u reccomend getting arden to 141 or leveling saveas as high as possible
@ivory walrus reset your arden and manually level him to 101, please stop at 101
level up your fawkes until lvl 101
at this point your goal is to have 5 highest hero which is
saveas 128, tasi 107, seirus 101, arden 101, fawkes 101
you should only have 5 highest hero , if u have 6, then reset the 6th
after that, give saveas lvl 140
the remaining level, give it to seirus arden fawkes, so that they can reach lvl 107
now, saveas 140, 4 other hero lvl 107
remaining resource, level up them at the same level
pos1 = brutus
pos2 = tasi
pos3 = seirus
pos4 = arden
pos5 = saveas
if silvina attack arden at the beginning, pos2 arden, pos4 tasi
good luck
^
i feel ignored i'll start a twitter thread ๐
@silent terrace hard under stress? everyone wanna join you and your knowledge^^
rip. so i tried that and my team just got demolished
do u have time to play for your own?^^
saveas was the only one that was left in like 5 seconds
@reef flower i understand that u lvl him to 161 because he is the only one capable [ mythic ]
since u don't have saveas L+, u can't have attack strategy, so best bet is playing turtle strategy
arden must be lvl 141 to achieve turtle strategy
lucius can be either 160 if you dont have enough dust for arden to reach 141
or if the problem is not dust, but hero essence, then wait for 1 day
lucius 161, arden 141,
add lyca and kaz ,
1 more hero left, is your choice from these options
- brutus [ he is best tank , he will be pos1 , lucius pos 2]
- athalia [ 4 wilder bonus + athalia is dps ] , kaz can help be pos2, lucius be pos1
- any other lightbringer such as raine fawkes belinda [ to get bonus ], kaz can help be pos2, lucius be pos1
good luck
@exotic nova only buy shemira from lab
you will and have to use shemira once you met campaign's enemy level at 160+ , which is chapter 14
before that , i wont suggest use shemira, but you must keep buying shemira from lab to make sure she reach Mythical rarity at chapter 14
Thanks a lot man! I'll likely get enough essence when I wake up later (it's 2 am for me rn, yikes) and I'll try it out to see how it works. I'll likely add in Brutus just to have another tank so my team doesn't get demolished in .01 secs lol @silent terrace
@ivory walrus saveas is solo carry , you dont need other hero basically, only need saveas
other hero is needed only to buy AS MUCH time as possible for your MAXED RESOURCES SAVEAS
by resource i mean, gear level and rarity
as long as u possition your team on the best location, and they can hold as much time as possible for saveas , your saveas can 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 3 or 1 vs 4 remaining enemy hero
the rest, just leave it to RNG , be it CC RNG or critical RNG or dodge RNG
Help at 6-32
@arctic torrent sick sry your level is too low, can't help much with low level as your hero pool is not much..
but i'll give you basic tips
know your solo carry, https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
then, give max resource to your solo carry [ level, rarity, gear ]
then, buy as much time possible for your solo carry , that should win most campaign
FYI , lvl 81 saveas and 4 hero lvl 60 , will give you much better result than 5 hero lvl 70 like that
and most important tips, if you have so-so rarity, so-so hero combination, GET BONUS at least 3 hero bonus, no bonus = rip team
This is an end-game focused Tier List for AFK Arena. It's based on the heroes at their maximum level.As only certain heroes can become Mythic, that was a huge factor when making the list.
Should I?
Do you have another tank? @pale kettle
Anyone know what the best build is with these heros
@pale kettle Please ask these in #classic-questions but if you're using Hogan/have no other viable tanks, don't feed him just yet.
Not using him
Only reason to save him... Is for future lucius drops maybe?
Thoran is my main tank. With Golus and Shemira picking up the rest of the tanking duties
@dim wyvern
first of all, please reset belinda and level her manual until 120
have enough material to reach saveas lvl 141? go for it
not enough for 141? get lucius 121 belinda can stay 120 and give saveas as high as possible
have 3 str gear?
use brutus saveas lucius fawkes estrilda
only 2 str gear?
brutus saveas lucius fawkes belindaa
as of now, they will help, but it's not the best,
from now on, focus on getting arden L, so you can change your formation to wilder as soon as u get arden L+
@silent terrace who should i lvl up next? http://prntscr.com/ntfg39
nemora
and build her based on HP
best support/healer
Shemira 'Corpsemaker' Hero Details Shemira is one of the strongest damage dealers in the game. Her Tortured Souls ability can absolutely demolish enemy teams as not only does it do insane damage, but it also hits every single enemy on
Thoughts? Stage 9-19
how should my lineup look like and which 5 do i focus?
@fallen token reset thane, reset shemira
5 highest hero
121 arden, 121 saveas, 120 belinda, 120 thane, 120 shemira
remaining resource level up saveas
position :
1 = brutus
2 = kaz
3 = saveas
4 = nemora
5 = arden
best agi gear give to saveas not kaz, best int gear give to nemora
Okay I'll try
@silent terrace should i now switch my team from Seirus/Hogan/Nemora/Kaz/Ira to Saveas/Shemira/Nemora/Vedan/Arden? because mid tier?
what is the strongest build?
@vernal blaze u decently want raine
raine is not great
h e l p
I'm pretty screwed at the moment. Really not enjoying the game. Any tips to rejig my team to move forward? Stuck 6-28 for days.
@exotic nova you should switch to saveas YES, but what you recommend is complete trash
remember this tips, u only wnat 1 DPS which is saveas
4 other hero is just there to HELP buy time, be it cc enemy team or tank for your saveas
as long saveas get the highest resource, you should be okay
vedan = dps , shemira = dps , u dont need DPS if u play saveas strat
arden nemora vedan shemira saveas = no buff = no dmg no hp , can't even buy time for saveas
@desert scaffold who should i switch her for though?
Need help with this stage.
or the guy with the staff and shield (sorry I'm bad at names)
@elder owl saveas brutus khasos athalia lucius try it
saveas post 5
brutus pos 1
khasos pos 2
athalia pos 3
khasos pos 4
from now on stick on that lineup, level up saveas every day, if RNG helps you, you should win
Can someone help me clear this third final floor of the lab? Is it even possible?
Thank you Iโll try that. Yeah I got lucky with Legendary tier gear and he carried me from stage 10-36 to here in like an hour lmao.
@alpine jolt u can just use all heroes , if all heroes die, use dura tear to revive all heroes ๐
focus to get buff on each try , at least 3 bonus buff
Been stuck here for some time. Any suggestions?
@silent terrace no one from the enemy heroes dies, and all of mine die so its pointless to wastw dura already did that 3 times...
@alpine jolt choice of items from lab will affect your hero line up, nothing u can do to help since u can't reroll items u take on lab at this point
that's the best advice i can give haha sry
@alpine jolt try to exit the match so it reset and you could try it again
Help? My Brutus dies instantly before my lucius can shield
Switch Brutus and lucius pos? @zealous palm
Then my lucius dies instantly and the golus destroys my saveas
I think 141 brutus will solve it @zealous palm
@zealous palm brutus stay there is fine
saveas pos5, he want to kill angelo fast so he can 1 vs remaining 3 heroes
fawkes at pos4
belinda pos3
if the problem is brutus die, it's okay, he is supposed to die, as long he immunity 4s it's already considered good enough for your team
as long angelo die, RNG will carry your saveas to 1 vs remaining 3 heroes
@zealous palm nothing u can do unless you get L+ brutus at this point,
or you can keep retry until at some point fawkes catch saveas, but fawkes is a dumb ass in campaign, he rarely target enemy saveas..
if u feel it's impossible, afk for awhile, level up saveas every day, and at some point you will win this round at most when saveas lvl 160 with same line up and same formation as i told you
I am soooo frustated with this, i need hope
@delicate trout no bonus in campaign with so so rarity and so so gear = dead 100% guaranteed