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Anyone can tell me what team I need to do for pass 9-20?
@storm magnet you should reset brutus and tasi for belinda and estrilda. Just for leveling. Brutus and tasi will stuck at 120 and with that your other heroes in the crystal will just lv 120 too instead of 140 with belinda and estrilda.
You get all the mats back when you reset heroes so you lose nothing with that
thanks for the answer and yeah i know, and i'll make that switch when i've to 'cause i kinda want to save my diamonds for now since i'm not nearly at the lvl cap and maybe i'll be abble to up my brutus & tasi before i'm forced to
What is my best lineup? Currently running this
How do I beat this match up its annoying cause she just heals them
Greetings, any possible combo for these? 11-8
Really do not know what to do on 9-38 anymore....
Dmnt.. I see people way above me stuck with way better chars than me.
Now that I'm coming for help, I don't even imagine the help I'm gonna need later.
For now. I'm in 6-39. Stuck. Don't having any luck. Help?
@south raptor drop Shem and use Sav. Then level your Sav to at least 20 levels more than the rest will do
@pale kettle I think you fall into top tier heroes myth. Shem is less useful than Sav before LVL 161, and Sav should be ascend first before Brutus. That's why despite your Brutus and Shem high level but you still stuck cos your carry/dps is under leveled. I can't see your full roster but i think either you invest in Sav, or maybe put in arden and more Wilders CC to help. I don't think Shem can tank at this level, early yes and late stage maybe.. but don't think so at this stage unless you can can get her above 141 then maybe she can be carry/tank
Best lineup i can make?
Any ideas for me? Moving the right way? Using the heroes on top mostly.. Switch nemora for arden on peak and labyrinth
Pls help me
Stuck
Any advice for 11-28? Been stuck here for like a week
@pale kettle likewise, you lack the best dps/carry Saveas. And you didn't buy Shem from Lab? U can use Hogan Brutus Arden nemora and silvina. Cont invest Silvia if you have no other better choices as your carry till L+ and can feed her later to Shem. U can also use nemora as offtank over hogan too and use Athilia or anyone else you prefer.
Here is my line up.. All my epics have 4 skills.. My Hogan epic has 3 skills.. Should I still rank Hogan? Or what advice can y'all give me for my characters? Thanks!
I'm hard stuck I cant seem to do enough dmg to the 2 tanks to get anywhere any advice/help besides lvl up ?
Who should i ascend to legendary? Grezhul or silvina?
Bring Brutus to 200 or get other heroes to 180?
Recommend me a good line up for stage 12
I need assistance as I've been hard stuck on this stage for nearly a week.
Current artifact layout:
Shemira - Eye
Brutus - Grace
Nemora - call
Arden - Drape
Any lineup or improvement suggestions are very welcome.
Currently stuck here. Any tips on what I should do?
so a person in my guild is wondering who to use as an off tank between Hogan and Estrilda
which one for campaing
they wont answer and the others in the guild are constantly pushing my question for them upwards so guess i cant answer that
it was a general question
There anything I can do better here or is it just that I need more lvls
yes or no?
big no
any reason? what do you suggest I'd do?
try using fodder heroes like sav/spider/centaur
wew that's gonna take a long time
the others are much harder to obtain you really shouldnt use them to ascend others
anyone have any suggestion? Im stuck bad lol
alright, though I heard numisu's not that good though
@next lava try swaping Ankhira with saveas, he is a really good Hero early on. If your heroes are still getting rekt real fast, might just want to wait some afk time and upgrade those tanks
@haughty cloud tryed it 10mins ago, and still lost
Is your mounted tank (sry i dont know the name in english) dying too fast? Might want to swap him for Brutus since he is a lot better
Need help broys (11-32)
@haughty cloud brutus dies so quick, should o abscent saveas for spidergirl n centauro?
Should i ascend him or just go for mirael?
@next lava Well i doubt Brutus dies fast since he is inmortal for 8 seconds. Make sure you equip him with good gear. If i were you, I'd use centaur and the other two maulers to upgrade Saveas, since you are going to eventually want to use him during your mid game time. Therefore my suggestion of a team would be Lastimoso+Brutus+saveas+Shemira+Vedan. This team might not inmediatly make you pass the level, but it will eventually level up into a great mid game team
@warm badge Ascend him, he is so much better than mirael and more uncommon. Also Thane can reach mythic and ascended levels, mirael cant
@haughty cloud gonna do It RN, if u want we can have a call. Who's lastimoso?
Lastimoso is the mounted Brauler, idk his name, the one you have in front line that is not Golus
@haughty cloud THX boy, appreciate Ur help, gonna do It RN
Best of lucks, remember this is a game of patient, you might not pass that level today, but might win a whole chapter tomorrow
Need some advice on this
Stuck
@pale kettle reset ogi, level Arden, put sav on front line
@pale kettle what exactly is killing you?
In that formation I simply wasnt able to last long enough and. Only killed one while in the previous one I got to 3 of them but then salv kepped getting charmed and the enemies kept getting healed
Ahh yeah that's rng, you want Arden to snare nemora, you can also put your other higher level on the front line to take damage to give Hogan enough time to do some cc
Who should I ascend first? It'll be my first legendary
@rapid topaz whose your front liners?
Dunno, Brutus and whatever xD
Is Tasi better than Arden as support?
@pale kettle her ult takes out the entire team, pretty badass, but they work really well together too
@pale kettle she also has a lot of survivability with her teleports
I'm thinking of using Brutus and Lucius as front line, and Nemora, Tasi and Shemiar as back.
@pale kettle remember to use and abuse faction bonuses if you can
Not sure if it's worth it to change that for faction bonus
Shemira gets taken out pretty quick at lower levels, really just depends on what ya got
All my stuff is at lvl 90
I mean the individual heroes*
Should I use Thane as fodder to make my Fawkes Legendary?
Whole team is same lvl
@karmic compass no
Is there something I can do here? Should I reset a hero and level up higher another? I don’t have tasi or Fawkes to counter Brutus and idk what to do
@torpid cape focus down the top half of your opponents first, I think that's what I wound up doing
I tried, but ezizh isn’t strong enough and Brutus just wipes out everyone in a second
@torpid cape try your Hogan, he can cc brutus
Humm okay
Hi can anyone give me tips on a general team formation and which heroes i should prioritize in investing first? https://imgur.com/8rP1W9f
@junior hound tasi+lyca definitely and reset all the heroes that aren't in your res
Any tips
Sorry what's res?
Resonating crystal
Tasi can stall the entire team with her ult, lyca has haste which is huge, lucious for shoelds and pure tankiness
Btw* I mean put tasi in the crystal*
ohh okay
Yeah, use your top 5 rarity heroes to level up, put reset in the res crystals
cant beat 6-8 and this is my setup, what to do?
so is this a good line up: front - lucius and estrilda. back - tasi, lyca, brutus
@snow meteor i would move athalia to the very top so u can kill spider lady
i mean thicc lion is my problem
u kinda just hope the rest of there team dies before lion can kill ur team
@snow meteor i'm actually stuck on that level as well
@snow meteor stalling Brutus till the end instead of focusing him might help
also does ur lucius survive long enough to ult? if not, switch lucius and hogan too
^
I tried with athalia on the top and it went way worse, and lucius ults once, as soon as its over tho hes dead
use belinda for saveas
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Yeah it'll give you a better faction bonus too
put hogan vs brutus and lucius in other front and on backline athalia, arden and belinda
actually you can put grezul or ogi too and try instead of hogan
i used to have shem and belinda in back instead of arden and saveas and then the guy who summons a gravestone instead of hogan
Hogan can cc brutus, with his ult and alternate, grez can turn him around and he'll ult the zombie instead if you can get his ult fast enough
so use grez or hogan
Try with Hogan before resetting
but switch lucius and hogan right and use belinda over saveas
Also rng will be a factor, and yes switch Hogan in front of brutus
okay
Also you should reset sav for Belinda
Extra 5% health from faction bonus and she's higher rarity
i did, also hogan died quick then brutus went sicko mode just took hogan to 81 btw now
Beat it
Eeeeey gzz
hello everyone
Lucius popped ult rly quick, then hogan, then athalia was on him. ty guys
Need help broys
If it makes you feel better, it took me over 50 tries with the same comp to beat
@fierce kayak Hey mate. I´ll took your advice, but i have to admit that nemora tanking was far worse.
i switched nemora and tasi, positioning as follows:
nemora
tasi
saveas
lucius
arden
and that worked well.
was able to finish 10-40 after that swap within 7 or 8 tries. tasis teleport made her survive with the +hp and +dodge artifact XD. nemora lived through then and GG ^^
sadly i have to admit, that the 10 special scroll roll for wilders didnt produce a single elite hero :E was hoping for lyca soooo much .... or at least a copy of tasi or what ever ... :E anyways. RNG let me down again... like usual ....
Screenshot (May 24, 2019 16:29:28)
Any suggestions for general lineup, not just for this stage?
Any tips
What stage?
9-40
@split prairie i cleared that with the following lineup and positioning:
tasi
saveas
arden
lucius
nemora
if that does not work. switch saveas with lucius and nemora with arden.
@fossil moth do you remember who had what artefact?
Halp 10-32
any advice on how to beat this stage?10-36
@modest dove try putting the brutus-saveas combination at 2-5 positions (the frontline down and the backline down) to tank enemy saveas and killthat vedan fast enough
Need help guys (it's 11-32)
@outer iris same, put the brutus at the front-top to tank saveas. I dont think your saveas will kill golus fast enough tho. U can try to put the fawkes behind brutus at the back-top so he can get golus out of the battle
@inner token Fawkes is picking up Estrilda everytime xd , I wish he could pick up golus
need help 6-28
@outer iris doesnt he prio the one closer?
thanx @inner token
@snow meteor i guess you need more levels. do you have the crystal unlocked in the city?
yea
I think he just picks up the stronger but , ye i tried this stage 50+ times and never someone else than estrilda
hmm, i guess brutus is kinda strong at that point. and btw, try to level up the heroes that have 4 skills, bc they can get more levels
like insta instad, and okay
well, try to move the athalia to the back-top, so she maybe kill that bear at the backline faster than the ankhira, and she dont get cocooned by her
nop still insta oof
oh well, then you'll have to wait for some essence to level up your heroes
Do I need levels or is there a better line up
the only one that is boosted by the crystal rn that isnt shown there would be ankhira
I'm really gonna need some help here...
What should I do?
my intrigue is why Khasos is in the frontline and Brutus is not
Any tips
find out where Thane would help the most in that lineup because he puts out a good amount of dmg so im thinking that replacing Tasi with him would help
What you are up against matters quite a bit there bud @dawn vortex
@prime vapor change lucius and hogan's position, try a few times then try changing shemira and saveas's position as well. you need your tasi to have good RNG and dont teleport to the enemy side if attacked
@dawn vortex easily brutus, saveas, arden, tasi and hogan for now since you dont have any other tanks
New lineup
So I should forgo the faction bonus?
you guys should try powerleveling one character instead of leveling them evenly tbh until there is a 20 level difference
guys im at chapter 8. my first buy at lab store should be Shemira or Nemora?
@dawn vortex faction bonus isnt so important right now tbh, having broken ones are better because of the skills they bring to the mathc
The Faction bonus did tons for me so idk Ditzy
@sly viper what's your roster like ? share it here
@prime vapor I'd say putting hogan on top tank is better, it's hard taking out golus coz he is tanky and has a dmg reduction skill I'd work my way from btm to top. Change tasi with saveas actually, so bottom dies faster. Keep tasi at top if your tank dies then she'll teleport away hopefully to your own teammate
I beat it by switching thane and Lucius but thanks 
Like my first Lab store buy was Shemira because i had an E Shemira already
@past ermine yeah, but it isnt that important tbh, on my alt I used brutus, saveas, nemora, arden and seirus to take me through chapter 6
You think I should run Arden over Shemira?
@sly viper shemira is good, I tried her on my main but usually its mostly clutch plays like out of 50-100 times trying she wins that stage for me. Nemora is good but you already have tasi and arden so you might not use nemora as much unless it's for her heal. you should be able to do stages with hogan, golus, saveas,tasi,arden
alright, thanks Ditzy!
@dawn vortex sometime CC is better, you have brutus and saveas killing everything. brutus in front and saveas at the back usually just kills them. arden's double root is good but it's better if you can get arden to elite or elite+
once in awhile you could switch arden or tasi with fawkes.
Also, I think ogi is a better tank than hogan once he reaches 101, stun and slows
Is my team good enough for arena? I keep losing
Hey, i'm surviving on with athalia on position 2 until now, 11-28, but I don't think it will work later on. My team right now, in the position order, is Estrilda, Athalia, Belinda, Lyca and Arden. Should I get a tank? And which one is the best for this comp?
@dire radish that's normal people will always attack it's not easy to keep winning unless you have a wide roster with good teams. putting in nemora instead of arden is always good, that extra heal to keep the team up
@latent meteor Try to switch Fawkes with Saveas so he can kill Estrilda faster and get to Arden, at this level he is very dangerous
@torn galleon I havent gotten to chapter 11 yet but usually a tank would help ? how much power difference are you punching up ?
I've tried so many lineups
@latent meteor I'd rather put brutus and saveas at the top to kill estrilda and arden asap
@grim hatch I'll take a screenshot, give me a second
Help?
@grim hatch
Shouldn't Lyca be in the back?
@rare orbit Yea, this was the last lineup I tried, don't mind about it
@rare orbit those nodes with Niru is hard, I beat it by killing Niru first because he heals whenever a teammate or enemy dies
Guys, is Eironn any good mid game? Just got him
@torn galleon I found out that I can only punch up about 100k in power difference xD I'd try killing golus last tho coz of his tankiness.
@grim hatch I am actually really close to win, but ankhira's cc and golus tankiness makes them last, it normally ends on they killing arden and belinda
@steep flare I havent tried him but his kit seems good especially with the skill twin force hitting for 15% of enemies current hp. could be big
What should my set up be
@grim hatch Lol i just won
@torn galleon I never tried a full dps team before tbh so I'm not sure
Nice, I'm stuck at 10-32 lol, about 140k power difference
@pale kettle better to reroll
Right now I rely a lot on the word RANDOM on Arden CC skill, I won many stages on because of him
@pale kettle you dont have choice in your line up, yeah it might be better to reroll
Hello who is the best counter to niru????
@torn galleon are you using all legendary items ? or L+ items ? most of my teams are using epic items lol
Thx i just went all the way to 7-16
@latent meteor Nice bud
😡
@meager goblet I find brutus and saveas easily kills niru
@grim hatch Right now I have 10 L items, and 1 L+ item. The only hero which have all L equipment is Estrilda
Hmmm yeah but he lives till the end
@meager goblet I used brutus, saveas, arden tasi and lucius for that stage
Tips on beating 7-8?
@grim hatch The combo Belinda-Arden-Estrilda is really really strong, estrilda makes her opponent back up a little bit, and Belinda's strike explodes on the backline, while Arden holds the opponent back there
So a lot of u guys use arden okay i’ll think about it, lucius dies so fast unlike brutus
@torn galleon I can see it work coz lyca gives haste and energy while estrilda gives att up and energy
too bad I dont have a lyca :(
@glossy bane change brutus and thoran's position
@meager goblet It's best to put Brutus in front of the damage dealer and Lucius in front of 2 or more opponents, such as when he stands his shield the energy gets full very quickly
@meager goblet yeah it's coz yours is only elite same as my brutus is only elite lol
@torn galleon my lucius just melts easily now lol
Is your Shemira dying fast?
@grim hatch lol i want lyca so bad too but i always get shitty heroes instead😭 too bad we need heroes to ascend them / @torn galleon i’ll try that but since he’s only elite he dies before casting his ultimate skill lol & idk which shemira you’re talking about but she’s always supposed to be the last standing
@meager goblet Try to use Kaz if you want, her dodging ability counters Vedan and Ankhira
@torn galleon lucius main tanks for brutus
I guess we'll just have to afk lol, need more summons, I got both safiya and eiron at elite + already lol. I wanted heroes that I use more lol @meager goblet
@grim hatch I only got one safya outta like a saved up 200 some pulls
@torn galleon yup it’s a bit better i’ve just been stuck at this stage since only 2 hours😂😂 / @grim hatch that’s the point of the game lol safiya is sooo good and how did u managed to get them both omg
That's lucky or rigged idk
@placid dirge I didnt even plan to get her lol. I'm still unsure with her kit.
@meager goblet took me a lot of tries even with my line up lol. I think I'd like eiron more than safiya tbh just some random pulls lol.
Hi
@coral solar hey
@placid dirge thoughts?
Anyone with a suggestion for this stage?
@coral solar what happen to the lineups I gave you
They weren’t working on the lvl I was on, finally got the lvl but stuck again at this one and forgot your line ups lol @placid dirge
@sour plover brutus lucius nemora Belinda thane. I beat it with brutus lucius raine Belinda fawkes
@coral solar you can search for it looks at what you were @
...... I didnt consider rain or fawkes. Let me try them. Thanks @placid dirge
@grim hatch ahah lucky what stage are you ?😭 @coral solar try to put athila in front of vedan
@meager goblet i did, not enough dps
@sour plover
@coral solar mohhh:/
@sour plover my lineup has been the same since chapter 9 and gtg duty calls gl everyone
I wish I had brutus lol
holy mother of god what a lineup
Stuck here lol
@grim hatch you dont have any bonuses (top left corner) work on that 😉
@solid gale thing is, Idk who to substitute lol whatever I put just melts lol
10-32 i see
@grim hatch Try to switch Tasi's position with Arden btw, Arden's CC is random but also has a range, it's more likely to him to get closer enemies.
freakin silvina kills my mage, khasos and saveas kills anything within the 2 hits from both lol
yeah that's what I thought but freaking niru or whatever hits the my arden, and no CC from him lol
silvina saveas and niru are the worst🤮🤮
oh well I am using elite and elite+ equipments on my tanks and mages
What should I work on to be able to pass this?
10-32 what do you guys think I need to beat it?
What lineup should I have?
@slate mason More power 😃 I'm stuck there too
Put Hogan on top and Saveas on the bottom
@grave jewel did you beat 10-32 ? who did you use ? my team comp looks similar to yours 😃
Yea I had Numisu, Belinda, Saveas from top to bottom in the back
Brutus and Lucius from top to bottom in the front
what about your gears ?
They are all elite+ gear
Here is 11-32, they f' me up
oh well got close to saveas vs saveas but lost coz not enough time lol, I used fawkes instead of numisu dont have her lol
Tips on this team pls?
Level brutus / shimera ? Also is worth getting the fifth hero leveled aswell even if it sucks
Need advice
lol got passed 10-32
👍 @grim hatch
@lehova where are you stuck at ? I would use brutus, saveas, lyca, arden and seirus
Starting to get stuck around 6-35, any advice?
@prime vapor change their position a bit ? at the back? or try putting in estrilda for thane
@maiden cliff what's your problem ? does everyone die or saveas is left alone ?
I need assistance as I've been hard stuck on this stage for nearly a week.
Current artifact layout:
Shemira - Eye
Brutus - Grace
Nemora - call
Arden - Drape
Any lineup or improvement suggestions are very welcome.
@grim hatch everyone dies pretty quick, a couple times I've gotten down to just Saveas
I have the grace artifact which I gave to Hogan in hopes of him lasting longer... But no luck
does your shemira die easily? @maiden cliff
She generally lasts the longest
You should try getting arden, he has good CC
maybe you could change nemora for belinda /
Who should I use for this? (Kings Tower Floor 105)
Chapter 8 has been walling me hard.
I was told by @narrow thicket to ping <@&546913281135214593> so don't flay me
That's what the <@&546913281135214593> ping is for :p

@hexed stratus if no one answers just ping it once every 30min and someone will come eventually. The title of community supporter is specifically to be pinged about questions
Any clue how I can clear this? Or am I just way too ahead of my level?
Are you sure you want Belinda in front of Lucius
She takes the first hit, and then Lucius steps up and starts yanking saveas
What do i use for 6-28
@hexed stratus if possible you should burst down Niru
@grim hatch I have no idea how
Is 11-28 supposed to just be a huge wall??
@hexed stratus Idk if your graveborn lineup is suitable for burst dmg :)
@prisma granite keep lyca, nemora, arden as one then probably add hogan and eiron at the front for now ? or hogan + saveas
What lineup would be best for chapter 9?
@grim hatch most of what I have is Graveborn. I couldn't actually get Niru down at all with a half Mauler setup.
I can get close, sure, but oh that damn Niru.... I have plenty of GB and Lightbearers but barely anyone else.
@old egret wow nice lineup, I'd say lyca, tasi,nemora, hogan and try out athalia ? it will be better if you have estrilda at 121 so she can feed the energy
Can't get Legendary Estrilda feelsbadman
Also at Hero Essence wall.
@coarse umbra what I used for it
Dunno of it happens inspire some ideas but it's what I got x.x
@hexed stratus maybe you can try out fawkes? does his coffin work at that node ?
@old egret I think you could do fine if you have the gear, tbh I'd prefer ogi over hogan as a tank but since u have him as L+ you might as well use him. where are you stuck at ?
Stuck on 6-32. Should I swap some out or worry more about leveling?
@grim hatch His coffin works but the enemy Silv always first hit stuns him.
Lightbearer factional disadvantage feelsbadman
@grim hatch is Ogi better? I usually never get many dupes of him though so rip.
I usually end up with only vedan or Ira alive with a few hits away.
I'm stuck on 5-40 (only 3rd day playing I'm noob) could someone suggest a line up for me.
@loud scroll I think you can get past 6-32 with some rework
@hardy fog more levels and more gear.
stuck on 12-28, any ideas how to beat it?
Can't get any of that, when Im stuck on other things aswell like tower, lab is done already.
I can reset if I need to
Then pay or afk. @hardy fog
@hexed stratus if you have good gear for saveas, you should use him as your carry imo. him at lv 120 makes a lot of difference
Being stuck at a level for 3+ days or even a week is normal. And unfortunately I have no factional gear for him. It really hurts.
You miss understood I've been playing game for 3 days..Just got to this stage
No, I don't misunderstand. You need to either afk or pay IRL money at some points to proceed is what I mean.
@old egret I like ogi at 101 because he aoe stuns and toss + slow. I think you could put athalia in front of vedan, stopping him from gaining energy then burst him down
Eventually you'll need a variety of units for factional bonuses, as well as proper gear for them and levels.
Otherwise go with your three Lightbearers, Shem and Niru. Tasi's good but I don't know if she can carry at that level.
@hardy fog your team is good enough tbh, try a single carry system. for example make your shemira above others by 20 levels if possible she can carry you, replace belinda with lyca you should be able to pass chap 5
Was that meant to me @hexed stratus ?
Ahh ok, Shemira was my first hero..Friends got pissed, must be good hero
Also, I don't mind spending money, but these packs look a little meh to me
@loud scroll Imo you should bring up arden and tasi they are good. keep silvina and arden for now. then play around with lyca,arden,tasi,nemora, golus, grezhul,saveas
there is one thing about tasi that I dont like imo, she teleports around when she gets hit. if she teleports behind an ally then its good. if she teleports towards the enemy most likely she'll die so its RNG
Opposite for me, whenver Tasi goes on enemy I win harder xD
Thank you and I have seen her teleport into a spinny boi once or twice
@grim hatch So my lineup would be hogan+lucius (front line) Shemira, Lyca, and ??? Ira+ or Kaz I assume
@old egret I like it when she teleports to my saveas coz he carries the game for me 😃 also you could time her sleep better as well
Or saveas I have him at elite
@hardy fog I like shemira for peaks of time and labyrinth but I'd put saveas for campaign nodes, I dont use my shemira on my alt account. so hogan+ lucius, lyca, saveas and tasi
should be good for until pretty late in the chapter, you want saveas higher level than the others, coz he can carry the game
Ok thanks
does saveas have higher solo carry potential than brutus for early game? @grim hatch
how early ?
if you have brutus, use brutus and saveas tgt. brutus in front and saveas behind. brutus's roar increases dmg dealt, helps saveas to dish out more dmg. saveas has sustain because he can heal himself in a fight but brutus cant
@junior hound
i can get my first mythic and im wondering is estrilda or fawkes would be better. any opinions?
this is my current progess: https://imgur.com/8rP1W9f someone who was helping me earlier suggested me to work on tasi and lyka, what do you think? Should I work on Saveas? @grim hatch
where are you stuck at ?
Hard stuck.
@junior hound reset your vedan and morvus, use brutus, saveas, lyca, lucius and arden or tasi should be good. prioritize brutus and saveas equipments. whichever one you have a higher rarity you keep their level high. I used brutus, saveas, arden and nemora in my team and I got to 9-20 now on my alt
@patent flint ever thought to bring in arden to switch with tasi or nemora ? his double root helps although its rng
Is it worth to reset vedan and morvus? They're both low levels
not really @junior hound xD
Currently stuck on 11-36. Any suggestions on what I can do?
Advice pls.
So Earlier I got a Shemira from the Lab Store, and I got a new Shemira from the Summon, and I improved her to Elite +.
Now I have a formation of three Lightbringers and Two Maulers.
Now the maulers I have are Elite Safiya and Leg + Saveas.
Should I replace Safi with Shemira, or is it not worth the formation bonus loss?
Ayy I beat 6-8 with Tasi, thanks for the help @grim hatch
@timid linden idk I never tried that stage yet but what's the problem ?
@dire ridge there is no bonus for 2 maulers, athalia is not a lightbringer btw, you should try saveas, lucius, athalia, tasi and estrilda you should be able to get past that stage
@junior hound no problem 😃
Stage 6-28, anyway for me to beat this or do I need to lvl up more?
@grim hatch I'm not planning to get that stage out of the way, just saying in general for future reference to get better. But ty for the input! 😃
@hybrid bolt I think it is possible, replace belinda with arden or lyca and if you still cant then replace safiya with arden
Alright I'll try that
@hybrid bolt try flank with saveas from above. Let Bru hold the bottom line
Aright thanks guys
Ah, @dire ridge at lv 101 and 121 I dont think shemira brings a lot to the table, at 141 with the crit would be better coz shemira does aoe dmg and sometimes it's too slow
So I should just wait until I get her ascended to that level yeah?
@grim hatch
Yeah none of those are working, I think the problem isy Hogan dies too fast
imo yeah, @dire ridge I stopped using her in campaign for now coz I have better CC's and dps
Besides sevaes my backline can't get their specials out
@hybrid bolt try switching it to
saveas
-------- brutus
belinda
-------- hogan
safiya
Any idea how to beat this? 13-4
@grim hatch that was actually the closest I got
Hello guys, I would really like some help with my team composition 10-36
just keep trying it out, sometimes you get better rng and win. imo right now just power level your brutus or saveas whichever one you have better gear. I would prefer it if you bring in CC actually. Arden
Who would Arden replace
@slender ether I'm also stuck there. does your lucius die asap ?
sorry cant help you @queen quarry
@hybrid bolt I'd replace safiya or belinda
Looks like you need another tank and take nemora out
Which one should I ascend?
Need line-up to defeat them plz ty
@queen quarry why are you using e Lucius against ascended graveborns? Definitely would use less Lightbearers and more wilders
@ember bane use silvina/athalia instead of shem. I don’t find her that useful at those levels
@rare orbit lol, we are like the same
@scarlet kraken which to place in front of Niru n vedan
I'm stuck on Shemira at 100.
Who should I focus next?
Help me ;-;
@stuck dust
Brutus, Shemira frontline
Tasi Arden Lyca (ascension) for backline if you want the team bonus, but at her current state she's more for haste than damage. You can also try Tasi Arden Nemora, since Shemira is your main damage dealer.
My tasi is able to ult but this game is so pepega that apparently all means only 5
@worthy ocean Always check the ! at the bottom telling you which factions are at a disadvantage to the one you're facing when building your team. Lightbearers are weak against Graveborn.
You're going to need ascensions as well. Base your ascensions on the enemy's, you have to have at least a full yellow team already.
@south herald I'm sorry to say but it's ascensions on your part as well. Also, levels.
Team:
Brutus Lucius front,
Fawkes Belinda Saveas at the back.
@pale rover you skipped me :-(
@pale rover I was trying to make my top side not get crushed immediately cuz lucius alone kinda die very quickly 😭
@rigid hamlet It's carry, tank, then dps. If Shemira is your main carry, then go for the main tank next. If your team is:
Thoran Estrilda
Shemira Raine and Mirael
Do Thoran.
@south herald You have good heroes and you know how to team build, it's just mostly the giant ascension gap. I hope you get your needed heroes soon!
@pale rover okay thank you.
Tyvm @pale rover
10-32 is kicking my butt, any help
@thorny frost How fast does Skregg die?
If Skregg survives:
Lucius Skregg
Raine Belinda Arden
(minimum team bonus)
If Skregg dies:
Lucius Saveas
Raine Belinda Arden
(minimum team bonus)
@pale rover he dies really quickly
i wonder about my lineup.
currently using - saveas, brutus, nemoram vurk, khasos
thinking about removing vurk.
should i ascend and use golus as second tank? or just use grezhul with 3 mauler bonus
Stuck, 
@thorny frost Try those first. Sometimes Saveas can outlive the damage, since Silvina will jump away only Niru is going to attack him initially.
@dull goblet
You can do:
Golus Brutus
Saveas Khasos and Arden
@pale kettle Level if you are stuck. Your team is okay.
Niru’s death call keeps killing saveas, that’s the issue, other than that it’s working really well
@pale rover ye, that's that im thinking about, ty
also have ankhira, not sure if she's useful
@thorny frost That means you really need to either have Skregg ascended further or overlevel Saveas to the point that he survives. Good luck!
@dull goblet Ankhira is useful situationally in mauler teams in guild wars, but otherwise she's usually used as fodder for other Mauler heroes.
I did it! I had to put skregg in front to distract niru and it worked long enough for saveas to put him down. I appreciate it! @pale rover
@thorny frost Awesome! Congratulations!
@pale rover thank you!!
Still stuck on this stage. Should i use tasi or nem?
@gleaming jay @rare orbit Both of you can ascend Estrilda but I would wait to use the fodder for a more used Lightbearer unit. Like Belinda, Fawkes, or Lucius if you ever get them.
Belinda is free day 7 so it’s a good lead to go with if you have no real team by then
@muted stream I'd use Tasi, but if you use Nemora charming either Shemira or Ferael would help. Actually, even Niru. Unless she dies before she can charm or heal.. then Tasi for sure.
@fossil vessel You'll need to provide the ss of both your team and the stage, for future lineup help kindly remember.
Also about my graveborn team are these 5 besides shamira considered the best gb I can get atm?
@pale rover Thks for the info. Correcting:
@pale rover tasi and nem both proc their ult and their cc skills but i still couldn't win maybe i should replace lyca or arden?
https://imgur.com/gallery/c0oRUVV any advice I’m so stuck lol
@fading gull
I would replace Ferael early on, to be honest. You can do 4 GB and 1 Wilder (Arden). You'll need to have reliable crowd control moving forward. Choose between Vedan/Silvina, and replace one with Shemira when you get her.
Ferael is amazing in late game though, so be sure to grow him as a unit.
@pale rover once I get Shamira I’ll feed Vedan into her and Legendary her to 141
As for salvina I might keep her for guild boss
She counters the summonable boss pretty well
Also Arden doesn’t sound too bad actually
Where should I post looking for friends with specific monsters like vurk L+?
@fossil vessel Your frontline is very underlevelled. Level first, then:
Grezhul Hogan front
Silvina Shemira/Belinda Fawkes at the back
(3-2 team bonus)
If you want to keep Saveas, replace Silvina with him and use Belinda for the minimum bonus.
@unique moon #mercenary
Ah ty ty
@pale kettle
Estrilda Lucius front
Fawkes Belinda and Raine (if you have her)/Saveas (reliable damage dealer with eventual self-sustain and self-haste).
Kindly ask #classic-questions there, but #lineup-help needs belong in this channel.
I dont have raine
@fading gull You'll have a pretty reliable team after that. Arden is the easiest to get to L+ and is a very reliable crowd controller especially past 81.
Or a good saveas
you get a free raine from second peaks
@pale kettle these maulers are destroying your wilders, I would use more lightbearers against maulers as they do more damage. Use hogan to cc the two enemies at the top. I would use hogan, estril frontline.. nemora khasos athalia backline. Just tryna help answer some so @pale rover isn’t going crazy on the keyboard 😂
The top is my current group , is that alright for now?
@pale kettle ^ Do your peaks of time for her, for now just use any single target damage dealer you have.
@pale rover I’m actually pretty darn close to getting him there
@pale kettle You can replace either Belinda or Mirael with Silvina if you want a single target damage dealer to focus nuke enemies, but for now that works too.
@pale rover when saveas is not viable who do i use instead of him
@scarlet kraken It's much appreciated. Thanks.☺️
@south herald If Saveas isn't viable.. you can choose another strong single target dealer, but won't you lose out on the faction bonus?
I will try that line up
@muted stream Lyca will help proc Arden's root faster but the thing is she does zero damage at lower ascensions. For a full Wilder backline, Lyca is supposed to be a source of additional damage to make a big difference (and not just her haste). Try the other comp with Nemora.
Hes still viable im just askin for my future team xd
@south herald Future team, ask me when you have new summons again. I can't recommend if I don't know what you will get, you may get great units incoming.☺️
Okie ty :p
how do i beat this
@ivory walrus let me help
I'm getting close on this but not quite there, any tips?
@inland kite first offf ewwww Why is the witch there and where’s the faction bonus
WHAT ABOUT ME, ME NEED HELP
Cause Belinda probably hasn’t been raised past 100 right?
@ivory walrus get serius front and get arden in a safe position so he could cast his cc without getting interupted. Also your team is pretty underleveled
My belinda is past 100. She still dies quickly
if seirus is front he dies too quickly. my arden last long enough to ult and then he gets a shield from artifact. i tried with seirus front
I think a few days of afk is the only way here
THE FREAKING VLADAMIR
@ivory walrus first put the tank up front not Arden also have you thought about using nemora for the best healing in the game?
Do I ascend Estrilada or nah?
But make sure arden doesnt get interupted @ivory walrus
nemora doesnt get her ult off so i switched her with seirus.
@rigid hamlet no
So would anyone be able to give advice on who I switch out or?
@rigid hamlet if you have a better tank than hogan then yes
And please don't just say that witch... I need actual advice please
Anyone that can help me build a lineup for chapter 9??
@inland kite have you raised Belinda past 100 before
@muted stream I shouldn't worry about losing the mirael?
Azarious if you even so much as looked at my screenshot, you would know the answer.
Yeah mirael is just food but if you are using her in your team then no. Try to replace her with bel or shem first. Her early stages is not too bad i guess
@muted stream thank you bro.
Woah someone is getting a bit pathetic...no one HAS to help you. Be grateful.
Excuse me, who are you speaking to?
I would give Belinda another chance and replace the witch out with her and lvl up to 121 or 101
@inland kite level 140 bel, nice
any ideas gamers
That’s the best advice I can give you man from your ascensions
Didn’t work /
Kay now any crazy ideas?
all im saying, is please look at my screenshot before you ask if i have a certain character a level... yes All my heroes are PAST 140
I’m stuck on 9-20. My teams currently Shemira/Lucius frontline with Tasi, Lyca, and Nemora back. Any alternate groupings I should consider?
@inland kite I did and I was right to guess that she wasn’t given an upgrade past 100 I’m trying my best
@inland kite😂 😂 😂 🍷
I really do need help to adjust my team to make them stronger past 9-12. Completely stuck. Also for pvp would be good guys please :)
That fricking stage stands between me and my ascended shem :((((
good talk
belinda is upgraded past 100, what are you talking about, shes not blue, shes white and shes 140
@muted stream thank you, Belinda is now 61 and Estrilada is yellow. Just got past the stage I struggled on!
i need more elaboration lol
@muted stream ss your team please
now can anyone just please mention a formation based off of my screenshot that i can at least try out?
I'm stuck on 10-40 HELP!
yes @inland kite
If anyone gets a chance to look at my screenshot above, I’d love a bit of help!
@inland kite Your current ascensions only help with the Legendary heroes you hayANY variousation Besides adding Belinda over the witch = certain death because you’re fighting mythical Legendary + enemies that’s what I was saying silly
I’m on 10-4 and floor 127 I finally got a Lucius and I want to know if there is a better team comp available for me to use. Any thoughts? If not im just going to level my main 5 to 121+ and I’ll easily progress. I also have been struggling through lab.
@hollow scroll can you screenshot your team please
@fading gull hey can you help please? 😁 https://imgur.com/gallery/c0oRUVV I cant pass this level
I really need help please
Sure thing man
I would place ulmus I front of Brutus nemora might be fine where she is and put Arden in the middle and lvl to 81 the Athalia Ulmus and Arden
Need help!
@pale kettle
I'm stuck and can't advance
@hollow scroll would you consider going straight damage for this stage?
Absolutely. Any particular suggestion?
Suggestion is shamira Your current tank nemora ogi and Belinda
Ill try it!
@muted stream replace lyca for nemora and you should be fine place Arden middle and keep the front the way it is
Tried that they still have all 5
You might need to lvl up them sadly
Your team is fine, you just need to grind it out a bit more
@muted stream If they still have all 5 it's levels.
Sigh
Also, ascensions.
@pale rover unstuck me
That's the team I used to get through that stage, so the team is not the issue, just need more levels and hero copies for higher ascencion
Sorry mate
i cant pass this levellllll
At one point i was getting itchy and almost use kaz to make my lyca L
-sigh- not working. I’ll have to just Level and ascend.
I have to stay up for the guild war rewards
I had more levels and better ascencion than you and also struggled in that stage (15-40 iirc?) So yeah, just need more grind
lol i need to stay up just in case i need to attack later tonight
@muted stream don’t trust me that’s bad
If anyone needs lineup-help:
- Read the pinned posts first.
- If you still need help, I'll respond to questions that have screenshots of both the stage and their team.
You mean dont. Trust me that bad or dont trust me @fading gull
Don’t do it!!!
Yeah i know
He just missed a comma. "Don't, trust me that's bad"
@ivory walrus you’re more than welcome to chat me up in the main chat
I use bel to make hogan L in the past though 😅
@muted stream 😅
@muted stream EWWWWWWW
he is quite a good tank still use him in chap 11
arden is a good tank too
Lmao no @ivory walrus
he tanks better than seirus
@weak scarab Your front tanks badly need ascensions. They're only elite, while you're up against mythic ascended units. You can try if this will work:
Estrilda top, Saveas bottom front
Then Belinda Arden Lyca back.
There will be no team bonus. If that doesn't work it's 100 percent a waiting game.
That doesn't mean Arden is a good tank, that means seirus is not
@ivory walrus Arden is cc
no arden is tanky boi. i would have saveas tank but he needs to do damage
What lvl is your sav
124
Then it’s probably about time to upgrade from him actually
Even if Hogan is a good tank.. you outgrow him so fast. Don't feed Belindas to Hogans is the general rule of thumb. Hogans and other fodder units are relatively easy to come by. @muted stream
Also.. Arden is not a tank. 
Unless you’re trying to 141 him 👀
Yeah i know. It was the second biggest mistake i make @pale rover
i was trying to 141 arden first but then 137 took too much hero xp so i just started leveling saveas
I know what units are and what aren’t I study games like these REALLY fast
The first being making 2 legendary shem. I fked up a lot
lol. thats actually a big rip @muted stream
Sav does more damage than Vedan even I saw that but I cannot exchange anymore I have my gb stuck with me
My shem would have been ascended 😅 @ivory walrus
Once I get shamira I’m foddering Vedan to her and getting a copy from the shop
@ivory walrus The only reason you can use Arden as a tank in that situation over Seirus is because of ascensions, and consequently.. levels.
You'll truly need another tank for that stage that's better ascended. That team is actually already decent with Seirus front and more ascended, and Arden at the back.
Hoping to get her soon
Waiting game.
i dont have another seirus to ascend :(. i keep getting ranged characters @pale rover
Damn
Wait being blue means you dont need to wait 30 sec? @pale rover
@ivory walrus Sadly it's really a waiting game at that point or you overlevel Saveas a lot and try to use him in front as the other tank.
@muted stream Yes.
how does one become a blue boi
What shall my line up be?
@ivory walrus #545923240288059392
Keep this area lineup related only though, please.
My team is about to hit a brick wall in lvling soon I’m close to 100 everyone
Anyways holler at you if I need help again
Help with lineup pls
@pale kettle You've asked around the same thing three times today. I can't keep answering the same thing.. is this a different account? It won't change in a day, you'll have to be patient.
Grezhul Ogi front
Lyca Arden Ferael back
(team bonus).
If anyone needs lineup-help:
- Read the pinned posts first.
- If you still need help, I'll respond to questions that have screenshots of both the stage and their team.
@pale rover oh its cause I got a new ascended and idk whats good haha
@pale kettle You can read tier lists in #550491326479728650 to help you start.
Lineup help pls
@inland kite You may not like this but it's a matter of ascensions. With that being said..
Lucius Hogan (get him to yellow) front
Belinda Arden and Saveas back for the minimum bonus.
@silk hare Skregg Thoran front
Vedan Khasos and Silvina/Saveas (get either of them to elite) at the back for now. No need yet for crowd control, just focus on damage.
@paper frost You will need more ascensions on your units. I can't really recommend your Lightbearers because they're at a faction disadvantage vs Graveborn.
Thoran/Grezhul in front
Silvina Nemora and Ira at the back
3-2 team bonus
Work on Arden.
Thank you
alright! ill try with hogan though i dont get much luck with having enough to ascend him rip XD
Same, my ascension luck is horrid
Any help?
yeah i guess ill just be locked, i keep trying but yet they go after my backline first before even my front after killing lucius in one hit
@outer mirage a lyca might help u if u have one maybe put shemira in lucius’s place and use a lyca instead of lucius? Im not sure if that would help xd
Yeah I can give it a try, sadly my Lyca is only E. But if it works it works.
Dont expect too much im not a team building pro xd
yeah ill give up on this for now unless anyone else has a rotation suggestion?
@outer mirage You'll really need to level, at the very least your frontline. A full Graveborn team will tear into your Lucius. That's 25% from full faction, and 25% from the faction disadvantage.
Brutus Shemira in front. You can try Lucius at the back and see if he can get shields up. I would highly suggest an Arden or a Lyca as well, but they will have to have the proper ascensions. I got through that stage with the same team, and largely because my backline had the Wilder trio bonus.
If anyone needs lineup-help:
- Read the pinned posts first.
- If you still need help, I'll respond to questions that have screenshots of both the stage and their team.
6-12 is my first major wall..Oh joy. I love fighting brutus and scaevas ......
@hardy fog The pinned post has a chapter 6 guide.
@pale rover Thanks, my lineup is made up of those suggested heros. Might just need more levels.
O my choice about lyca was correct feels good man xd
Should I buy the mythic item or save the diamonds for tarven draw?
@tough elbow Please ask non lineup-related #classic-questions in the appropriate channel.
Oh, sorry posted at wrong place 😅
where are the pinned post located? The one containing chapter guides?
Only chap 6, the top right hand corner the 3 dots
@timid linden Yes, I just made one for ch6. Tasi has a useful guide up for common walls in the game, though!
Thanks!
9-36 any recommendations?
Try kissing vedan first
Or keep silvina target before saveas and kill her 1st
Yah I have Silvia’s target in front of saveas rn
If she doesn't die, keep them both top
Na they all die except for Isabella and vedan and saveas just can’t survive he dies too quickly to kill both of them
Try killing vedan 1st then
May I get some suggestions for teams to progress further?
How should my comp be to beat 10-28?
U probably need to upgrade some tanks to legendary or something first, u have a lot of damage but not that many tanks :/
Just my opinion tho^
@pale kettle You have good heroes!
Brutus Grezhul front
Arden Lyca Tasi at the back for a minimum team bonus
You can also replace Grez with Shemira frontline at 161 with the proper ascensions.
@south herald I got tanks like grezhul ulmus and seirus but they're not that great at taking damage :')
I did just get thoran tho
Ye u might need to ascend them a little imo
So would someone give me advice because the last 20 scrolls I used has no elites.
@last granite
Yes, you'll definitely need to go a bit for the tank ascensions.
Thoran Grezhul front
Silvina Belinda Fawkes back
(3-2 team bonus)
@pale rover @south herald okay then ill work on that, thank you
@upper path Brutus shemira frontline is very good maybe for backline u can do lyca nemora tasi
Tasi and Brutus will be stuck there for long is there anything I can do at all
@upper path That suggested team is good but Shemira is only reliable in the front past 161. She's hit or miss in front prior to that.
Well in 2 months I'll probably be able to make a red shem.
Am tryin to get my red brutus too xd
Been stuck on 11-28 for a looong time. Any advice? Currently I’m just trying to get all hero’s to 140.
been stuck in 11-24 for a long time, can’t even kill 1. any advice?
Is it worth ascending saveas to legendary or should I wait until I get Brutus somehow to e+ to just pop him up straight to legendary
Could really use some help on this
@outer terrace from wat i remember fawkes would coffin khasos and brutus would walk up to hit the top side right? Maybe try moving Brutus and Saveas to top side or find a way to kill the enemy Saveas asap
@median star Shemira isnt really a good tank pre 161 I suggest u tank with someone else maybe?
Whom should I have on my lineup
Any ideas for good pve comp on stage 13 xd
@latent robin change the swap lucius’s and centaur guy position and use the shaman guy instead of centaur guy
@south herald thanks managed to pass after changing my frontline🙌🏻
Yay i helped
@atomic pelican try brutus hogan or brutus khasos front archer chick nemora tasi backline
@plush cape can i get a screenshot of the stage?
This comp been using all light team cucks me tho
@plush cape Shem brutus front into arden tasi nemora maybe?
i'll give it a try
@plush cape i would assume that ur shemira tank better than ur brutus so she should be top side i think
any idea how to kill the saveas first? cause he’s very painful
she got blown up
@plush cape oof uhmmmmm ye brutus would be better off top side i guess xd
@median star try putting fawkes in and see if he coffin saveas if so fawkes can replace raine i think
@plush cape u can also try Brutus shem into belinda fawkes and raine
Belinda 200%
Hogan is also my main tank
I'm stuck at 9-12 right now, can someone help? :)
@wheat patio u can save them until u get a new tank u dont have to rushfor ascensions
@low bridge can i get a screenshot of the stage real quick?
truu
@south herald I can also speed up the shop for 1k gems amd get Shemira to Leg
@low bridge ur problem would be their top side maybe moving saveas to top side switching with arden u dont want to speed up to shop trust me i would prefer summoning
@south herald Alright! But I tried this stage a lot of times and also tried what you said, I think my heroes are very underleveled right now, because I can't continue leveling. Do you recommend investeting 3k dust to get arden leveled up?
@south herald I cant really progress rn bc my team keeps dying, so I think getting one of them to legendary would be good, but I'm not too suree
@low bridge ye upgrading arden could be good
@wheat patio well if u dont have a tank u cant really progress either u might need to summon for some more heroes
no diamonds:(((
@wheat patio rip maybe reset ur hogan lvl to upgrade some other tank then get legendary belinda
idk how to make a team
@vestal geyser u dont have that many units yet just use what u have for now maybe hogan shemira frontline
any specific heroes i should look out for?
It depends on what u want ur team to look like imo i like shemira cuz of her dps brutus and lucius r also really good
i asked the other person he also said the same. ty for helping 😃
Really? Who did u asked xd @vestal geyser
in question haha

Oh ye saveas how did i forget smh
U can use both tho! Shemira just get really really good at 161 but saveas is maxed at 160
yeah but i have lyca + tasi + shemira backline already :C
@vestal geyser you doing the right thing, always ask for 2nd opinion. 
A team that u can go for at high lvls would be Shemira brutus front nemora lyca tasi backline
@fierce kayak im relatively new to the game so i need people to enlighten me lol
i appreciate the help from both of u ofc
Im not the that good so ye getting a second opinion that is not me would be very nice
@vestal geyser Ya.. good job. Just don't anyhow ascend heroes (this is something you can't turn back(, and only use diamonds to summon.
i ascended fodders so far not sure about the good stuff later
Anyone can help me with 6-24 lineup please? Im stuck there for days :(
@pale kettle you easily able to do it lol...
@pale kettle like chaotic said, try maybe shem, Brutus, lucius/estrilda, arden, nemora
@pale kettle like others said, u already have a good team. Drop issalbelle and use Arden. Level them a little more
@fierce kayak doesnt even need to level to get through this stage ;)
Can I get some advice to get through my stage? :b
I can also buy Nemora from the store and use her in my setup?
Go for it or wait?
yes to grezhul but wait for L+ estrilda
I think I'm just very underleveled
Not quite sure which units I should be sacrificing to potentially get others up to legendary, any suggestions? Also looking for a general main lineup to use
can anyone please help me with a lineup
@valid cargo
Upgrade:
Lucius (you can eat Morvus, Angelo, Mirael)
Saveas (you can eat Ankhira, Golus)
Team:
Grezhul Brutus
Arden/Tasi Vedan Shemira
(team bonus)
Brutus Lucius
Belinda Saveas Arden
(no team bonus)
🤔 i really sux 😄 still can't beat that 6-24 even when i changed team as you suggested,my back line die so fast they can't even fast ulti lol so its whole team vs my brutus+shemira all time :() ♿
Need line-up to defeat silent of forest
@night gyro
You can do a lot of configurations.
Gb/Wilder Team:
Grezhul Thoran
Shemira Silvina/Vedan Arden
Lb Mixed Team:
Hogan Estrilda
Belinda Arden Silvina/Vedan
Help for 11-32 please!
@pale rover any advice for me please
@deep spade For now you can do:
Skregg Golus
Fawkes Raine Belinda
@ember bane @pale kettle I'll need a hero list, please!
@pale rover
Hi guys, have been getting spanked on 6-36 for a couple of days now, everyone dies super fast... I'll sometimes get a single ult off but by then it's too late. Any tips?
@pale rover this is my hero list:) thanks in advance
i tried what other guys told me, brutus, lucius ,nem, shem, arden and stuffs like that but still cant get pass of this 6-24, backline die too fast 😄
I would try and help but i have no idea on wat to recommend xd
@ember bane
For your first ss:
Hogan Golus
Arden Saveas Belinda
(no team bonus)
For your second ss:
That might not be doable just yet. The level gap is pretty big. You were right to try and do Wilders vs Graveborn, though! You can mix Wilders and Graveborn and try to form a team bonus.
@pale kettle I'd personally level up lucius and nemora a bit more
@pale kettle You have decent pulls, but the problem is your ascensions. The opponent is starting to pull a bit ahead.
You can work on:
Lucius Brutus front
Estrilda (temporary) Arden and Belinda back
(team bonus)
@fading cipher Your lineup is good, just levels and ascensions. Exchange Brutus and Lucius in position because Estrilda will knock Brutus down and kill him that much faster.
ok thanks i will try that
Anyone got a smart idea?
@maiden cliff That's a terrible stage tbh. There's a small general guide in the pinned posts in this channel to help you further understand the mechanics, but try:
Hogan Golus front
Saveas Nemora Belinda/Mirael at the back for the minimum team bonus.
Shemira in front at 81 is not yet advisable. Try at 161.
4-36 is annoying. You'll need a tank higher than level 1 😛 I'd avoid using arden too. You may just need more XP
Yeah I just reset hogan idk who i want to level
@pale rover thanks for tips, changed my team as you suggested and i won!
@wicked lily A few more ascensions would help you greatly, as the opponents are starting to become mythic vs your elite+. Work on getting Saveas to 141 as soon as you possibly can so he can help carry your team.
Hogan top Golus bottom front
Saveas Belinda/Khasos Fawkes back
(3-2 team bonus)
@pale kettle You're welcome, happy to help! Congratulations.
is vedan an ok tank
Not really for that stage in the game
sad idk what to use then
@pale rover my pulls are bad i want ti ascend so hard 😂
@vestal geyser
Hogan Estrilda front
Lyca Arden/Tasi Kaz (for 3-2 team bonus)/Shemira (no team bonus) at the back.
Keep in mind that Shemira is Graveborn, which is weaker against Wilders especially early on.
ye but shes the only one who can dish out dmg
@vestal geyser Yes. Which is why I made two teams; one with Kaz, one with Shemira. Try them both out. And don't forget to place Hogan in the resonating crystal.
Hard stuck any ideas?
ty and i cant resonate until after i beat this lol @pale rover
@cinder crag those ascentions.. im jealous 😬
@cinder crag I need your list of heroes.
Any suggestions for this specific level and future? I dont really wanna play Arden Over shemira But really need some cc
@wicked lily Believe me RNG hasnt been nice to me I have been looking for that elusive Lucius for at least 13k diamonds
So, i should use seavas but i always have the feeling, that he doesn't ramp up his damage.
How should i distribute the artifacts?
@cinder crag
Hogan Estrilda front
Saveas Fawkes/Arden Belinda back. If you use Arden, put him in the bottom so he roots Isabella and Saveas asap because they will wreck you if you let them.
@azure depot
Lucius Thane front
Fawkes Shemira/Belinda Silvina/Athalia back
(team bonus)
Thanks! @pale rover
Will try my thanks
how to deal with boss on 2nd floor of arcane labyrinth?
@little scaffold
Grezhul/Lucius (team bonus) Hogan front
Belinda Silvina Arden back
@pale rover il try. Thanks
@obtuse spear
Arcane lab is very relic dependent in order to succeed. To kill Wilders with Lightbearers, you can do a team composition with Wilders and Graveborn. Choose Graveborn units that will work well at the back, not tanks, as Seirus might destroy them. You can also keep repeating battles by pausing and exiting right before you get fully defeated.
@pale rover thanks, still no joy though! Think I might just be to wait 😟
When you say golus/Hogan/nemora/Saveas/Belinda or Mirael for team bonus... I'm not getting any team bonus!
@pale rover Guess i need more levels and Ascensions cuz i can't beat it damn golus is way too tanky and iseballa two shots estrilda with crit thanks nonetheless
@maiden cliff
You're right, my bad! There's no team bonus indeed.
Good luck guys, I really hope you get the units you need to ascend soon!
With this RNG not any time soon for me :/
Is this good?
@obtuse spear Just be aware that that team has no bonus. Ferael is amazing late game, but I wouldn't really recommend using him early on. You can try it out and see if it works for you, but from the heroes you have that I can see, I can also recommend you try:
Lucius Thane front
Belinda Fawkes Estrilda (or sub with Thane's position) back
(Full lightbearer bonus)
@dark egret I'll need your hero list.
Stuck on this help?
@pale rover
@nimble field That's for #classic-questions, but heroes are okay. You just started and got Shemira and Lucius along with Lyca.. those are all good.
K thabks
@dark egret
Golus Thoran front
Saveas Tasi/Nemora Silvina back
(no team bonus)
Based on your current heroes and ascension levels. Try to level further and ascend when you can. Belinda and Hogan aren't very effective there because Graveborn > Lightbearers.
@mental forum
Ezizh top Brutus bottom front
Shemira Silvina Saveas (dps, no team bonus)/Ferael (team bonus) back
That stage you can still get past with no crowd control, if you can focus down both Niru and Silvina. Put the one Silvina targets first near Ezizh so he will pull her away.
Help, hard stuck here, 9-20
@pale kettle Hero list?
Stuck at 6-28
Can someone help me with stage 8-16?
@pale kettle
I have to say it's an ascension and level issue.
Ogi Seirus front, then either:
Tasi Ira Ulmus (full 5 team bonus)/Saveas (4-1 team bonus) back or
Fawkes Belinda Athalia back
Stuck on 7-24. Any lineup advice? Maybe aswell for arena and wrizz :) ty
@fair sky You'll need to level the rest a bit more, they're too underlevelled so if Silvina targets them they'll die instantly.
Brutus Grezhul front
Saveas Arden Silvina back
(no team bonus)
I would also like to get some lineup help, posted 5 min ago, thx :)
@pale kettle Level and ascensions as well.
Hogan Brutus front
Saveas Raine/Arden (build him up, you'll need crowd control) Mirael at the back
@sleek crane You're going to have to send both your hero list and your stage in one post.
So reset ira?
@sleek crane You'll have to level a bit more.
Team:
Lucius Thoran
Shemira Vedan Arden (get him to elite)/Nemora (heals, charm)
@pale kettle
Resonating crystal. You'll need your most able to be ascended heroes as the one you manually level so you can overlevel the ones in your resonating crystal.
So i put ira in resonating
@pale kettle No. You put Brutus in Resonating Crystal and Vedan, you level manually. Top 5 most able to ascend heroes.
Taking a break!
Before you ask anyone for lineup help: please read all of the pinned posts.
If you're underlevelled, underascended, or undergeared, then that is the problem.
If you are none of those and still need assistance, please place these two screenshots in one post:
YOUR HERO LIST, and YOUR STAGE.
Patience is a virtue.
@pale rover that was a big help thank you
@frank compass well, you have a problem: you dont have frontliners leveled up xD. i guess you can put estrilda-ogi in the frontline and then silvina at back-top (she will jump on the ankhira), arden in back-mid and saveas in back-bottom
@pale rover u there?
@pale kettle if this formation can't beat it, I doubt anything can. Make saveas 121 ASAP
try putting saveas front at 121, and keep hogan behind him. Put brutus top.
If the current formation doesn't work that is
Stuck on 6-20
Anyone here that will help against the stupid spider boss who keeps cc'ing my dps?
There's a chapter 6 guide in pinned
6-20 is like level 80 or so? Your team is very underleveled. Also, tree dude is gonna get shredded against maulers
83
yeah, been putting most resources into ulmus and shemira
Put resource into shemira, now that she is 100, level the others equally
I personally feel vedan is quite useless rn......
been thinking about resetting him and leveling Thoran or Fawkes
And reset vedan, and level ira instead.
Level the heroes with the highest ascension. Doesn't matter if you use them or not
alright, I'll try.
@light elm i need crystals to make him 121.. 3k and i have 1200 lol
Level nemora in the meantime then. And you could try nemora bot and saveas mid
Ite will try
@pale kettle Lucius is better than Hogan I recommend you to level him instead trust he will carry your game with Brutus help
Lol lucius is elite and his max is 100 .. not gonna work
Bruh
I’m not telling now I know, his level cap and you should put resources on him instead of hogan
Try tasi a bunch of times she can clear walls sometimes, but it's very RNG reliant
Ye sometimes i restart the battle just cause of the critical hits
Tasi in place of hogan can work. There's a slim chance , if you get lucky with roots and charm and saveas crits
I used to put belinda as tank sometimes just to occupy the damage dealers.. it kinda worked tho so maybe tasi can do her job
Any tips on my lineup? Been playing for 2 days or so. Don't know if I'm using the best of what I have or not.
Hogan astrilda tasi and tge lady left to her and belinda is what i would do for the faction bonus
Kaz?
Once u get saveas elite u can use nemora instead of tasi and the otger wilder lady
@low lynx overlevel ira or belinda for now, whoever does more dps
Kaz is not a very good hero at the early levels. She's a very good single target dps later on
I've been stuck here for a few days. I know I'm probably underleveled, but any ideas?
It's 6-36. Nem can't live to use her ult
You're gonna need cc soon, maybe if not this stage. Nemora is a decent candidate. Fawkes would be better for chap 6 though, because nemora is weak in chap 6
So is astrilda chap6 tbh
Estrilda does not really provide good cc. She has a bit of it, but nothing to write home about
Estrilda is just bad in early game
Thanks
Should I get khasos to L
I used fawkes n nemora as cc in chap6
@errant lagoon I'd rather wait for another fodder and take saveas. If you don't have him already
My saveas is maxed L+ and lvl 141 rn
Khasos is a decent choice then. Maybe safiya too but don't know much about her
Yeah I wasn't sure if she's good at the stage am at rn or not
Got any other maulers at legend+, or mythic?
Nah
Hey guys. I,m on ch 11 and i can leg estridia, should i ? Should i play her on front or back ?
Currently stuck, any suggestions?
@errant lagoon maybe wait a week or 2 before deciding, the legend upgrade isn't gonna clear a few chapters for you anyway. No rush 
@nocturne summit depends, can you leg+ her? Do you have other legends or legend+ light heroes?
@terse fractal overlevel shemira till 100
@ivory swan reset someone and get saveas to 140, replace raine or estrilda with him, depending on whether you put him front or back
Thanks alot! Should I remove some other heroes levels to make shemira high?
No just overlevel her from now on. Only till 100 or 120 though. Saveas better from then on
Alright thanks alot
Hey guys, should I upgrade Arden to legendary or buy my second Nemora from the lab shop and upgrade her?
9-20 being a real pain, anyone got any suggestions?
That's where I am stuck at as well
@rare raven buy shemira from now till eternity
And yea get arden to legend
@terse bison can't do it without levels I think. Belinda is light so her dps is reduced
I plan on putting him in back
@light elm thanks a lot 
I fust feel like those 7 levels aren't gonna accomplish much @light elm
Not belinda, your entire team. If it was saveas instead of belinda you'd probably clear.
Oh and try lucius for estrilda or ogi. And arden/nemora for ira/athalia
Belinda has reduced dmg against niru vedan isabella so she needs more levels than usual
Ogi is a big help by putting CC on Niru and Isabella, Athalia throws Isabella right next to Ogi, Lucius is only E so his stats are quite low. Ira was just a random attempt with more wilder heroes
Estrilda is only e+ too, I'd think lucius does better than her.
If ira does significant dps keep her, otherwise replace with arden. His roots means your lucius will probably survive till his ult
He doesn't survive until his ult, with or without Arden
You can also try thane, it's a bit unconventional, but his blinks mean he can distract enemies for a long time
I've been trying Thane but he's a bit squishy
Yea that's the problem needs some low rolls on opponent crits
Lineup that ends up working the best for me: Ogi and Athalia cc Isabella, Estrilda distracts bottom enemies so Belinda can focus on finishing Isabella, then my team gets rekt by the rest of the enemies
Try switching ogi with athalia
Try nemora or arden for raine
Yo. Should i upgrade to legendary Silvina or Niru? I’m on 10-19 atm lvl 121 in crystal
Ok. Thanks 😃
Kinda stuck here, Nemora charm screws me over
@glossy holly if nemora's the problem, kill her 1st
Hogan dies before he can use his ult
I’ve been stuck here for about a week now can someone please help
@glossy holly use saveas instead of ira, and try to put ur hogan behind saveas
@knotty plinth u use too much mage, which is not good on early game, do u have a solo carry like saveas, thane, warek etc.?
Could some give me some general lineup advice? Should I ascend Saveas to Elite+ or get Golus to Elite and replace Estrilda or switch to a mauler setup entirely? Don't know if I'm using my available heroes optimally 🤔
I don’t really have a good one @delicate trout here are my hero’s
@knotty plinth try morvus or ira, and put away ur nemora away from brutus
@delicate trout welp, it kinda made it better, but I still lack dmg, I guess I need to lvl up heroes first
@exotic comet u had a really good pentagram already, just be patient, and saveas is monster untill ch.14
@tulip elm silvina is useful, niru sucks
@glossy holly try your own nemora for ira, and build an arden
@exotic comet focus on saveas before anyone else
I was going to get arden, but apparently no luck in getting him
@delicate trout I will ascend Saveas then. Is it worth ascending Hogan to legendary?
He's decent, not amazing. Also you can use him as fodder once he's legend+
@exotic comet yup, saveas is god until 160. I'm sorry my friend, for legendary heroes (the one u get blue 1st) it's only worth it to L+ Saveas and Arden, but it's okay since u don't have Lucius, u can fodder him latter
@exotic comet also, level up the highest ascension heroes. Doesn't matter if you don't use them in your team
@light elm I started after free Lucius, so he's my only tank right now. Estrilda doesn't tank well
Yea so don't fodder him if he's your best atm
@light elm why level them up? To switch out during difficult stages or labyrinth?
@exotic comet because elite heroes can't level up after 100. So once you reach 100, reset them for elite+.
And chuck the elite heroes into the crystal
@exotic comet just keep playing my friend, i started after lucius event too, here's what i got now, just keep believing and playing
Alright, thanks!
Who to L of these? Im stuck 8-36
I'd probably do belinda, but make sure you don't get stuck with a lot of legend characters, and no legend+
I have extremely bad luck with pulls 😦
@halcyon fjord u had fawkes,so not very bad
14-20
Hey, help me 😄 I want to ascend Hogan or Estrilda and put it in the front with Shemora, who would you think is better?
@keen creek try brutus shemira lucius belinda Fawkes. Brutus and belinda bot. Shemira in front top, if she can survive
Hogan is better than estrilda early game
Don't fodder estrilda though
@light elm Fawkes gets insta dead and shemira can't survive front 😢
Try him bot behind brutus, and shemira behind lucius
Should i switch anything for brutus? Or any other setups? Is this the best deck i can make with my heros?
bye hogan
Yeah? Swap hogan for brutus?
yes
Your 5 pentagram don't have to be the ones you use, that's what the resonating crystal is for, I'd say Hogan and Arden out for Brutus and Thane/Raine honestly @pale kettle
Oki thanks
Thane/Raine for the team faction bonus more than anything, Raine might be more use to you as she can support Saveas's damage, but thane can work as a secondary dps if need be
Is there any possible line-up here or do I just need to level more?
@narrow sand you have no frontline there, Silvina jumps straight to backline nad Estrilda is more of a dps/support hero, use heroes like Hogan, Golus and Khasos in the front, Saveas will be your best DPS by far so you're better off building a team around him, using heroes that synergise well with his kit to make him perform even better
I was gonna use golus as food to L saveas
If you don't have the frontline to fodder, then don't odder your frontline
But I would advise Hogan, Khasos as your frontline anyway, so wouldn't be the worst idea, just saying if you can't replace a hero in their position, don't use them for food just yet, or it'll hinder you most likely
I'm just not.sure an E+ saveas will do anywhere near the damage my L+ belinda does
His damage scales with health he consumes, he can out dps any hero in the game once he hits level 141
So I'll have to legendary him anyway then, I'm nowhere near getting 141 on my top 5
So if he has 100k health, he'll consume 8k of it at full health and it'll add 16k to his next attack, then he'll consume 8% of how much health he has next etc.
That's why he can out perform any DPS in the game at his level
But yeah, I wouldn't actually use Golus as food when you get that Ankhira to E+ though, now I know you have 2 heroes that can make do as your frontline for now
I need one more rare ankhira to get her to e+
Okay so not far at all, then you just need an E+ Saveas to get your main Saveas to L+
Should I put in Saveas? Or keep the squad I have
Could take a few weeks to get another e+ saveas 😂
@dire radish take out Shemira, put in Saveas and I'd say Raine/Fawkes will help more than Arden for your current level (Arden need his triple target root to be as good as he can be)
Lyca is always a good hero to have as well, if you don't lose your faction bonus to put her in @dire radish
@rugged marten ok so Raine in for Arden and Saveas I’m for Shemira? Until when would you say?
@narrow sand yeah, it sucks I know but if we could all get the stuff we wanted in 1 day, no one would play haha 😂
@dire radish there's no THIS TEAM IS THE BEST in this game because there's a lot of situations that'll make some heroes irrelevant so I'd say yeah Saveas in for Shemira (but put him up top to avoid Arden roots) and Raine in for Arden, but put Lyca in your crystal so you can use her haste, it's one of the best abilities in the game, and you only need the hero for 5 seconds to use it
@rugged marten ok thank you
So essentially I don't have enough to pass this stage at the moment? I'm fine to grind, I just wanna make sure I'm not missing something obvious
You have unlimited tries to trying everything is always worth a shot, I've won a stage before with my frontline in the back and backline in the front, which seems ridiculous but it worked first try 😂 @narrow sand
I just typically rule out E heroes as too underpowered now 😝
Help me sir, 11-34
So I'm heavy stuck on this stage for some days now and I think my general lineup is a bit screwed. Is there any tipp for these last few levels with boss Sylvis in Chapter 8? Is my general lineup just not optimal? I used Brutus golus sav arden nemora for the most part till now but that just doesn't work out so well anymore. Do I need to switch away from sav / maulers and go to lightbearers?
Arden out, Khasos in, Brutus in for Golus too
@glad ledge reset that brutus, put him on cyrstal. Give the xp to estri instead
That way everyone can go 101+
^
Do I ascend the sav with golus and push Hogan to L and play him + estri then?
You need three e+ to ascend to L
Try brutus, golus, saveas, lyca, nemora/arden
But after you made everyone 101+ like i said @glad ledge
I gotta wait for the crystal. But with Brutus on 100 that setup is atleast the first to come remotely close to beating that stuff and atleast killing 1-2. Brutus is just dying to fast and doesn't get to ult but I suppose that's just a level problem there
@glad ledge my friend, the point of swap estri and Brut xp is to increase your overall heroes lvl
Remember as cyrstal lvl is taken from 5 lowest lvl hero 😃
Yeah this atleast gives me the chance to get the level up of Brutus thanks a lot. Still gotta idle for a while longer for the levels then :)
Sure !
@forest shadow could you show the team please?
I've deleted them all now but it was hogan, mireal, vedan, grezhul and shemira
Take an ss of the stage, with enemy
That’s what I meant to ask sorry about that
@fading gull it's okay 
@forest shadow can you ascend ogi to epic by chance and thank you @near mist 💕
@forest shadow try hogan, golus, saveas, athalia, mirael
should i change my lineup now that i got belinda to L?
Best team comp I can put together with this? Not having Brutus is so unlucky
I was thinking of ogi Vedan athalia and Arden
@kindred reef i prob won't do that, nemora and tasi grants you all support needed
While saveas can dish out the damage well
On thing is perhaps you can reset saveas and put him to cyrtal, and give the xp to belinda
That way tbe potential lvl cap will go higher
Ulmus Arden athalia Vedan and ogi
@covert condor try lucian, nemora, estrilda/hogan, lyca, eiron
@forest shadow
hmm ok, feels bad not using my first L tho lol
Well you can always experiment in peaks tho 😃
I’m slowly starting to think about replacing Veda and adding in my now newly acquired Legendary balinda what is your ideal guys
@dire sentinel here please okay
I think imma have to actually afk cause no matter what comp I have I can’t progress
@forest shadow do you have enough ogi copies to make him epic?
I've already got one epic, will try now
Any advice ?
Try this team out for size ulmus ogi athalia vedan and Arden