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@tall wing to much tank needsome cc try tasi for lucious or hogan
@tall wing definitely use Tasi, put her at the top and swap Nemora to middle, try with Hogan out and with Lucius out
@tall wing what's your biggest problem the niru
@tall wing also try again with a faction bonus
So go for tasi first right when i get fodder enough right?
@tough igloo definitely withbthat many copies
@tough igloo lol you can make ascended tasi I'm jealous
@tough igloo yes you can send her to acsended
Yeah. Missing fodder. Same with other factions. It's a drag
@glad oyster ascend the treeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Pulles 5 ulmus in 1 week, I've only used him once!
I have been stuck there. While any suggestions
Thanks guys. I beat them with this formation
@lusty sandal lucius vlad estrilda Belinda sherm sounds funny but give a try
Vlad? lol
Which spots. Lucius keeps getting wrecked by gluos
@glad oyster pulled 4 brutus this week, lol, wishlist ftw
@soft dragon really think so? I wanna get lyca mythic first kinda
@tough igloo
How you like tree?
@tough igloo I pulled my 4th and ate saveas to make brutus ascended
@glad oyster I mean.... Ulmus is widely considered โbadโ but he has been used in PvP with great success, and having an ascended one would be pretty strong for sure. Youโd be waiting a long time to pull more Lyca copies if f2p
Will eat saveas too, but need another leg+ first
Should I reset Mireal and replace her with elite+ Belinda?
Yea I've been really wanting at least 1 more tasi card, i find myself using. Lyca/arden/tasi/nemora in my backline 99% of time
@glad oyster same
That's the meta wilder backline, but Ulmus front line with that comp is pretty strong too, and Ulmus puts out insane dps once he ults
@unreal olive yes, and I'll work on him I reckon
@lusty sandal Have you tried Estrilda in front instead of Vedan?
Yeah still no go
@lusty sandal try wilder backline, especially if you have lyca
I think getting Lucius and Shemira to 141 should be top priority for you then, to get the big stat boosts
Still dunno wich faction i should use scrolls on. Need fodder in all except lightdudes
@tough igloo when in doubt I always choose Wilder faction, because its almost impossible to pull a trash Wilder
Yeah. I know. But still need fodder for ascended brutus and shemira. Sigh
That's what I thought last week -.- 5 ulmus 1 sierus countless summons
@tough igloo I always go mauler
Lol. Ouch. @glad oyster. Yeah. Its mauler or undead i guess.
Stuck on 10-36, pretty much all of the heroes Iโm not using are too low HP to last long during battle... any suggestions?
Saveas to 160. ๐
@crisp whale I'd take Belinda over nemora
But imo. You need to have brutus and saveas bottom
@crisp whale 10-36 is notoriously difficult. you need to level up big time to smash through that stage
Vamp must die
Any tips,please?
@gilded ruin get rid of Ira and use dat Vampire Vedan who has 15 levels on her
@soft dragon never had problems with anything in stage 10
@placid dirge that doesnโt help me help people who are stuck on it
@placid dirge any suggestions as to where I should position her? She usually dies before she can use her ult
@soft dragon that's unfortunate, if there's nothing I can do I'll wait it out
@soft dragon just change ira with verdan ?
@crisp whale for a stage like that I use my Belinda as a distraction to pull her away from my brutus
@crisp whale I just beat it recently after waiting two weeks and I had a better team than you. @gilded ruin try it and see what happens. you can redo stages as often as you want so trying a new lineup is always encouraged
@crisp whale run lucius brutus Belinda vurk saveas
@placid dirge trying that atm, unfortunately Belinda's really squishy so she only stalls like 2 hits
@soft dragon out of curiosity, what was/is your lineup?
@crisp whale I used L+ Fawkes, L+ Belinda, L Tasi, L Seirus and L+ Estrilda to break through it after 20 or so tries, all lvl 130+
10-40 was a joke compared to 10-36
@soft dragon interesting, thanks! Hope I can make it past soon
@crisp whale I believe in you work on that brutus
Def would just afk and level up more, you'll eventually pass it
Thanks, hoping to get Brutus to L so he can last a little longer ๐
Any way for me to beat 9-20 with this? Or do I need to just start waiting for a bunch of dust? Lol
Might be hard... just get sav to L+ and 141 and he will carry you
@pale kettle aim for 3 on the same faction for your team and get Sav to 141 and you'll be fine (just requires food to get him there)
9-20 also just seems like a dps check... almost 50% of the lineup help is filled with people trying to get past 9-20
How much dust is it for 140-141?
6k
I need 3k more to make my 5th 141...
Can anyone give me any advice?
Lemme guess another 9-20
@boreal sedge try to get a faction bonus, or upgrade ur tanks, ogi and estrilda are not that great at tanking
like a luc would be perfect instead of ogi
Specially lightbearers vs geaveburn is not great,,, but 9-20 is just one of those stages you will get stuck on for a bit... soo might have to afk a bit aswell and level up
he's already at 120, thats prob a high enough level, I'm only at 140, but I'm at stage 12
Trying to figure out a stable comp. My factions are very split.
Who should I replace ogi and estrilda with
@trail birch if u had seirus I would recommend wilders, nemora, and arden would be a pretty strong combo
This is my character list
I do have one but he's not upgraded (only one copy)
@boreal sedge hogan, or golus would be good for ogi, and if you can ascend a saveas, he would be a great replacement for isabella
I used an elite seirus for the most part until like chapter 10 I think lol
that was when I finally got a second seirus, and I'm still using elite+ seirus at chapter 12
Im also at chapter 12, got there with an Elite lucius ๐๐
My team is so messed up
I need to get my tanks figured out so I don't need to fill my backline with support characters
Is the fooder worthy? ๐ค
Im so stuck bois
@obtuse skiff use ezih on the opposite frontline where silv is porting to
@wicked lily if I do this belina dies before ezih does anything and my backline gets wiped. I tried other formations too but same story
no one seems to turn around in time to help fight Silvina
Why are you running 3 tanks though?
Dont worry @soft dragon I know how it works
The first pic was just to show all, and the second was after trying multiple. I don't tend to use 3 tanks
Who's better: belinda 141 or estrilda 141 ?
depends what you have in team already
khasos,brutus,arden, and then mostly a switch between a lot
isnt athalia more flex then khasos?
khasos works for sav and brutus
yes but if you had one more usefull wilder with athalia, like tasi lyca or nemora you could get 3+2 with her
well I think belinda its better here then estrilda to asnwer your question
Hi, been stuck for a while, any help? 11-20
Anyone have a tip that might help me beat 10-20?
@slate mason arden for angelo, eventually belinda, try both
Everyone hates on angelo but every time I try to get rid of him for the last 5 chapters for one of those two I do worse
Perhaps when I hit 121 arden will finally be better
@slate mason tank bottom and flank with sav from top
The difference on Arden Is 141 not 121
Numisu is way too much of a problem if I put saveas anywhere else
Stuck should i just wait till shemira 161?
@covert parcel you could reset and make shemira 161 instead
Cant u make semira 161 right now?
Shemira + tasi is scary combo especially if you replace Brutus with Lucius.
That was my first choice but i got closer with brutus being 161 and nah i need more resources
Anyone got opinions on my squad? Trying to push area 5, just hit 30
Alright ill try that combo @still oar
@patent plover I am not familiar with safiya
Bru golus
Sav saf nemora prob good
@patent plover get rid of shemira for now, max saveas, possibly get rid of silvana for nemora
https://gyazo.com/f29ff756d70bd9b5e92c1eb04f712069 teams for chapter 11 also have skreg
I had similar team maxed sav
Bru lyca
Faw khasos sav
Or something along @somber hemlock
Should i feed them?๐ค
@wicked lily I'd save those braulers in case you get another Khasos or Brutus
Who should I be using?
I'd like to use Shemira but I don't know if she is better (below level 161) than any of my other three backliners.
Not sure about what the best lineup is out of these. I tried multiple things and rn shemira grezhul combo is carrying my team. Some tips for improving it or which chars to take would be nice :)
Take Shemira to 101 before closing the level gap.
Ye Iโm waiting on essence rn
Stuck on this stage, any help would be appreciated!
Should I still rely on saveas or dump exp on shemira?
Is there a better lineup than my current?
Should I ascend any of these or wait cause I still have no good tanks?
Bah sorry wrong pic for Ascension lol.
Canโt for the life of me beat this stage. Any suggestions on lineups that could help?
Is that 5-40 or?
6-36
Oh god, Brutus comes back in chapter 6??
Heโs almost on every stage on chap 6 ๐ฆ paired with a fking Saveas
That's why I thought it was chapter 5 but the levels just didn't match up, I am stuck on 5-32 where they use the Saveas backlin with Brutus frontline
How to beat tower floor 100
What's the best Soren stomping lineup? Like if you could make the perfect team... who would be on it?
Ah, my Athalia sweeped ch 5. Maybe I should bring her back lol
@leaden mortar He's also in every chapter after 6.
Can anyone tell me which heros is I should keep in the pentagram and which heros I should be focusing my gear on please
Fawkes and Brutus then Lucius for tank
@bleak gulch The ones you are currently using to keep in the pentagram are perfect.
The hero I would focus most of my gear on would be Saveas, he's in a pretty good spot. ^^
Should I focus on evolving one of the lesser tier heroes just to help flush out some of my faction teams
Also try to get your pentagram heroes to level 121 ๐
Donโt have Brutus :/ still worth building Fawkes?
I NEED DAT DUST
@limber nimbus You need to put your Saveas in your pentagram
@bleak gulch Which faction bonus are you looking for? you do already have the Lightbearer faction bonus if it's with Raine.
I was going for that sav Shem Brutus build I keep seeing
Sav is a good carry even if you don't have that specific team, your Lucius is tanky enough to tank while he nukes the enemy team
I feel like he has been underperforming lately same with Raine I siwtched her for fawkes
@bleak gulch How is Shemira doing for you?
So I got my Shemera to 80 but my Stone Circle thing needs to be 60 minimum...sigh.
So far I like her as a mage that can take but I like the healing and CC of the other two Wilder mages
Hi guys, relatively new to the game but im stuck in campaign. What team should I be using? stuck on chap 6
How come all new players are getting Ezizh or Athelia??
I did think Ezizh was a lucky pull
It's mostly situational who I'm using in my lineup I focus on what the enemies are weak against
Stuck on chapter 6 too...lol
I'll get there soon. Need to get top 5 to 60.
I keep getting wrecked by Kaz
lineuphelp? Stuck on 11-36
@soft dragon idk you pined me
Yo this team is spicy!!
So nobody get mad here but I completely reset now I need guidance what should I make for a team to work on
@wide field I'd say go Lyca Niru Raine back row and thoran Hogan front
You can swap Raine for Sav if you need to beat someone strong to light bringer and vice-versa for Mauler
Any ideas on lineup and who I should mainly focus my experience at? I have a Saveas sitting there but no other maulers to make the faction bonus...unsure of how important that is anyways.
Box
@cold estuary you get big bonuses at 41 and 61, so get that extra level first
Help they os me
@cold estuary also don't forget to retire common heroes
Yeah @maiden cliff I've been saving a few for the bounties. So the 5 I'm focusing are okay then? I hear so much about Saveas but i'm not sure if he's at the rarity he should be or if it'll be worth given my inability to get the faction bonus. I'd have to put up Golus too, and eventually reset someone
@cold estuary I've only been playing a few days myself, so not an expert but I'd replace Vedan and Niru for Hogan and Arden
Anyone
@cold estuary you have mostly tank characters there not high dmg output Id go Lucius, sSirius front line and then belinda, arden, and miranda backline
Sirius was my suggestion. If you have Saveas I would focus on leveling him up though. he is huge. Whatever that redhaird lightbringer witch is named
I don't think Sirius is a hero...is he? And I do have Saveas, but he'd be backline
Serius is the merman
Ohhh Seirus! okay. Saveas is a mauler though--so not entirely sure how to put him into my comp
Early / mid game if your Saveas is E+ to L+ he can carry you pretty well
Honestly with sav you dont need the bonus until later. he'll do most of the lifting
My Saveas is R :/
hes easy to get up. he drops a lot
Saveas is not ascended hero, so it was easy to build him up @cold estuary
Is this any good? My lineup is thane + fawkes + Lucius + Belinda + shemira
I pumped a lot into Vedan--is that still worth going into?
@agile estuary u don't have cc, usually people only use one belinda/shemira
fawkes is cc
@delicate trout Sorry, what is cc? I'm new
Crowd Control (stuns and such)
Ahh i don't see that sorry @sullen sundial
Help anyone
What do you suggest for an all lightbearer lineup?
@coral solar put away ur saveas as far as possible from belinda, so he can kill ogi an nemora asap, if nemora die, u win the game
@agile estuary I'd say that line up is pretty solid. Personally not a fan of thane though
@agile estuary lightbearer doesn't have any good physical damage, i have thane too, but i never use it, and if you are on early game, don't put ur future on 4% hero, arden and saveas is good for early
Hey guys, any suggestions?
@agile estuary aww, u are better than me duudeeee
I'm at 10-36
@coral solar Have you tried running Nemora instead of Estrilda?
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
Fawkes
Saveas
In a few days gonna make my fawkes l+
@agile estuary 10-36? Ch 10 is easy dude, who's the enemy?
A sec.. gonna see
@obsidian otter i can't even passed 11-28 dude, i'm sorry 
yeah dicky your further than me. I'm at 12-36. I'd say probably just under leveled.
Stuck for 4 days... it is becoming annoying ffs.
Tried already the reset on heroes to get saveas to 140 didnโt help. Tried already with more lightbearers and more maulers didnโt help as well. Tried also with full dps comps and those sucked balls too. Has someone another idea?
@agile estuary ahh i remember, on that stage vedan and saveas is the main enemy, put ur most damage heroes on the front of them, if u can kill vedan at least, u will know what u need to do next
@fossil moth let me see who else you have. your sav needs to be in the back
Tried saveas in back already with tasi bait in front and Lucius getting Aggro after. Didnโt work at all.
But it doesnโt matter at all. What ever I put vs vedan and sav dies so fast and Lucius having epilepsy trying to cast his heal on tasi or the dude standing in front tanking sav + vedan. If I put Lucius vs sav and vedan he just dies or my complete top row gets killed in 6 seconds.
@fossil moth saveas wasn't tanky enough to face himself and vedan
No wasnโt. Because Lucius has a mental breakdown to decide who to heal, tasi or saveas. If I leave tasi aside and put someone else in it also makes no difference then nemora gets killed.
Can anyone tell me what unit other than shamira would improve my current line up?
@fossil moth lucius will heal the weakest dude
Based on your heroes, its just going to be an annoying fight. Lucius, khasos, sav, belinda and rain maybe?
Best i did so far, was killing both vedan and saveas, but for destroyed by the other 3
Tried that already was pointless as well.
Got*
@agile estuary change one of ur damage mage (belinda/shemira) to put 1 more tank hero
I changed shemira and put saveas, dont know If was good, but got better results
The thing is, silvina will always jump behind my mage
Should i make a good niru? To bait her?
@agile estuary that's the problem, u need 1 more tank, and for me fawkes doesn't do much on that stage since no one has a extreme buff
Ahh i still have my screenshot on 10-32 lineup, i called this no one is moving haha @agile estuary
Can anyone help....
@fading gull what do u need my friend?
Can you tell me what unit other than shamira would improve my current line up?
@fading gull send ur lineup please
@delicate trout i can try do that lineup when i have all of them at least e+/l
@fading gull u don't need a 5 graveborn my friend, early game wasn't that scary
@delicate trout Iโm currently soloing with Vedan atm
@fading gull if that still working, than it was good dude
Saveas is such a stupid hero, max dmg, max heal and huge dmg tanked in 10x, hes carrying me through all stages doing 1vs3 xD
I just only recently put full graveborn I had ezi as my line up with 4 GB
@agile estuary my ulmus is E not E+ haha, but u have fawkes(fawkes can eleminate 1) and arden can root 2 haha, so you can make 3 enemies not moving
@hollow harness What lvl
What do you guys think of Legendary Estrilda?
@hollow harness L+ 143 progressing from 10-8 for 30min now, going for 10-30ish i guess
Yes @leaden mortar
I have him as epic atm
@neon swan i have L+ estrilda, not very good at campaign tho, but very nice on POT and the lab
ah, okay. Thanks for the input @delicate trout
Iโm thinking about changing to a 3 2 line up with fawkes Sav and 3 wilders
Well then, If i get ulmus and make a e+ arden, maybe i can try beat that lvl
help
eironn or raine? idk wich 1 should i keep in resonating crystal
@agile estuary noo dude, i mean u don't need ulmus since u have fawkes (ur fawkes change my ulmus) u jusy need to play arden
Is anyone at 9-37
Raine @cold shard
@coral solar I beat that level I was stuck at btw
thank you
What lineup did you use @placid dirge
Oh, ok then
@fading gull look how stupid he is. The other heroes are just here for cc, distraction and debuff, garbage stuff and not even L
@coral solar same one
@fading gull imo, what's the best for u right now is
Ezizh/silvi
thoran
Lyca
grezhul
Saveas
This is the line up Iโm thinking of doing now is a lvl 100 saveaus trading over if He doesnโt have his lvl 101 ability unlocked?
Who should I replace brutus with the only one I donโt have @placid dirge
@coral solar what you got
@fading gull What are your other maulers ?
You are looking at them
@placid dirge what stage is that your majesty?
@delicate trout that was 21-26 @coral solar u running Hogan estrilda raine Belinda saveas?
What you mean @placid dirge
@coral solar is that ur team rn
@placid dirge damnn, seem like looong way to go for me haha
My team is whatever
My team is my top5 and the ones one the crystal
I use whatever works @placid dirge
Again is a lvl 100 saveaus without his 30% reduced damage worth trading over seeing that is where heโs really really tanky
@delicate trout seems like but it's just time @coral solar you want so lineups?
@fading gull don't make it that far, only make him 20 level above ur other heroes
That is 20 above them
@placid dirge
I mean if anyone is 61 saveas can go 81, if anyone 81, saveas can go 101 @fading gull
need some help ๐ญ
@coral solar if ur trying to run my team warek or golus are a replacement non else
Alright thanks
@peak stratus instead of Arden use belinda
They are almost that way 3 away from it
https://imgur.com/gallery/674yXPU hey guys Iโm stuck in 6-8 any advice
@pale kettle do you have a Silva
Yeah
@coral solar however teams you can use are
Golus estrilda raine Belinda saveas
Lucius Hogan/estrilda lyca nemora Arden
Lucius/Hogan warek/bolus raine Belinda fawkes
Place her in the stead of hogan and put athalia in the front line
Ok I will try that thanks
@pale kettle try Hogan ulmus Arden athalia estrilda full dive
Any heroes that reduce healing?
@somber lance no, only cancel healing
And that is?
@fading gull do you have problems with feral being attacked
Fawkes, he can stop any buff he wants haha
Ah, no Fawkes yet.
Feral?
@fading gull the graveborn archer
No heโs actually doing more than the rest now
Getting wreck every time @placid dirge
Need advice to beat this
@coral solar Belinda is insta dead I assume for this level try warek golus saveas lyca arden
@fading gull I'd pocket feral
No ira instead kill spot #2 and 5
@torpid goblet 11-24?
flip saveas and Arden play with ur dura items and formation with those heros @coral solar
@fading gull feral is an amazing hero fragile tho make sure hes got a good tank in front of him
I kinda have 3 wait Not anymore
@delicate trout 11-32
I'm still pretty new - do I just have to level more?
@torpid goblet ok, not there yet, so i don't know haha, can u share me ur lineup for 11-28?
Whats a dura item lol @placid dirge
Iโm like one day away from lvl 81 on all my guys
Nvm lol
@coral solar
@coral solar right that's yet to come for you it's the item under my brutus boots
@delicate trout might be this, im not sure
@torpid goblet ok thanks ma man
My ideal was this but is it really a good ideal?
Ahhh 16 minuteessss
@pale kettle patients for now
@fading gullif ur doing that ogi lyca saveas Arden vurk
Did saveas is that tanky? My saveas wreck up everytime if i put him on the frontline haha
That removes my cc entirely
Hey yall,
Any guidance with where I should go with these units would be awesome. Have heard conflicting things - all I know I shemira is OP and I have been stuck on chapter 6 forever.
@thick bone shemi is OP, on level 161+
@fading gull ull have dps but a missing tank
She isn't pre 161?
@thick bone i stop using her since ch-9, and wait untill i can make her 161, and use her again
Who should I be using?
@thick bone and duudee, u waste ur hero XP, use ur crystal resonance, only level up 5 heroes
Arden has two roots at 81 thus reducing the damage they do by 40%
@unreal olive who so you like
@delicate trout yaaaaa, I have been told that as well lol
And ogi stuns frontline people so thatโs 3 down
@delicate trout trying toamend my mistake lol
I haven't got to play with Shemira. I know she isn't great until 161, but is she better than Thane/Nimusu?
@thick bone sorry my friend, i was triggered instantly
@unreal olive Iโm told sheโs only really good around Legendary and 100 and up
@unreal olive nimus is good early thane as a tank killer sherm is good overall and ur highest ascended hero
But in terms of them I would think so
@placid dirge sir, can u give me any suggestion here, please
@delicate trout shamira And raine combo REALLY good
So @placid dirge Would you recommend dropping Arden for Shemira?
@delicate trout estrilda isnt a main tank flog those two to start
need help 11-40
@placid dirge ok, will try, thanks sir!
@fading gull if i lose my faction bonus they will f me up instantly dude
Stuck on 11-36. Any suggestions ?
@unreal olive run what u want for now any hero work they separate talents around 61 to 81
@placid dirge i've passed it!! Thanks sir!!!
And 101
@delicate trout just remember estrilda is a secondary tank and should be used as one
@fading gull not so much 101 as 61 and 81
Okay
@placid dirge i will, sir! 
Friendly reminder: let's finish our daily quest first, and then we can head back here 
Ok what is the line up that you guys are trying to get me to do because I think I might be getting forced into Legendary sav
@placid dirge
@fading gull show all your heros I'll give you some linups you pick what one you want
Not sure which of the 3 I should be upgrading first, heard all positive things about them
That'll be my 1st legendary
I'm beginning to think I just need to afk 12hrs. Any sugestions?
@pale kettle Team is fine for now, with what you currently have. Possibly it's just afk as you said.
Yea. I'm noticing that I get underleveled a lot I think its cause I'm F2P and my VIP level is low.
Work on getting Saveas up and replace Morvus.
VIP level does help a ton but there are f2p players who are high levelled, it will just take more time and patience. Good luck @pale kettle
@pale kettle first I would suggest getting someone to 81 maybe like saveaus cause the spike in power is real
Thanks I'll do that.
@pale kettle here is my suggestion
Sav and nemora get them to 81 put and can I see your box
My box? You mean bag?
I just upgraded all my itms to try and pass this level so it's pretty bare but.
@pale kettle box of heroes love ๐
Is it worth it to Rickety cart my guys to 61 so I can level sav and nemora to 81?
Hey guys, here i am again lol. Been stuck at this level for a day now.. what should i do? Just afk?
@vital leaf I would first try to replace hogan @pale kettle yes
The thing is, every other tank that i own dies in 2 sec. :/ The assassin girl goes for nemora, she can survive for a few sec but definiately not long enough for her special skill, and Ezizh dies very easily too. Hogan can take a bit of damage, since hes legendary
Grezhul brings CC that is nice. Idk much about higher levels but he seems like a decent choice. Also your position for ezizh inst good since Kaz is going to your nemora he will charm the centaur. Which is probably why he dies so easily. And hogan survives.
Itโs really difficult to get all of the details through this channel tbh
Hi guys could really do with some help I'm stuck for the best formation so of anyone could help I'd appreciate it
@fading gull got sav to 81 and finished that level and all of chapter 6 easily... saveas straight carried.
@pale kettle youโre very welcome Windzy
Now start shredding through your progression try getting him to Legendary @pale kettle
In what order should I get them to 100?
Does anyone have any idea on how to beat this level? I've been on it for a while and haven't gotten anywhere. Will change team if need to.
@dire sentinel
Can anyone assist me with who I should ascend (if any of these three)? My tank luck is terrible so I feel like I might need to push Hogan, but would rather have Belinda longer term. Having some tough luck.
@jagged olive can you show your lightbringers box
@elfin cargo for now, i wouldn't use hogan to ascend Belinda, he seems to be your best tank so just wait a bit. You have a good setup for the stages to come. I'll play Hogan/Fawkes/Belinda + Arden/Nemora when you need CCs, and put Ulmus instead of either Nemora or Fawkes when you need a 2nd tank
@hollow harness thanks for the advice. Will give that a try, and hold out for a better ascend spread.
@jagged olive Try with Belinda/Fawkes/Arden (top to bot), and Gallus top instead of Lucius. You need to kill Niru fast so you can focus on their backline. Silvina is good, but she's just a distraction for Isabella and Nemora and doesn't really help for Niru
@jagged olive if it doesn't work, just reverse the formation (Fawkes/Arden/Belinda top to bot, Gallus bot) so you destroy their bot fast enough to reach a 3vs5 situation. With Arden and Fawkes cces, you should have enough time
Can someone help me with a lineup for PVE? I'm currently stuck on stage 7-36
what can i do to improve my line up? my top 5 leveled are my normal team. stuck 5-32
@hollow harness when i go top route vedan destroys everyone then when i go bottom route niru kills everyone
Stuck on 5-40 and third level of lab, am I gonna have to afk for materials until I can upgrade cause I canโt progress anything and havenโt gotten the best heroes
Stuck on 9-35. Is that likely my fate until I get my main 5 to lv 121?
Finally 10-36 cleared which was so far the biggest paywall in this game. Absolutely disgusting to play. And I bet without certain heroes not possible. Stuck on it for 4 days. Tasi got one shot within the first 2 seconds. Still managed to win it. Anyways this level needs adjustments as well as the AI. It is absolutely retarded that an enemy with 1 hp left can get away just because another enemy hero interfered and came closer to my hero for example. The enemies saveas still attacked my saveas if verdan got charmed which in my case always leads to my hero attacking the charmed ones.
@jagged olive This stage is a lot rng based unless you really outlevel it. You have the team to play with the rng (arden/fawkes). I didn't notice gallus was L+ tho so try forcing with either Belinda/Fawkes/Arden + Gallus bot/Lucius top (here if you have lucky crit on Belinda Niru should die fast enough. Arden should cc Nemora and Fawkes Isabella). Or Fawkes/Arden/Belinda + Gallus bot/Lucius top (here you aim to kill Vedan real fast with Bel/Ard/Gallus to go for the wilder ranges, and you just forgot about Niru and Isabella). I'll go with that
I did it with a similar comp if i remember Belinda L+ 140 / Tasi (=Fawkes) / Arden / Lucius and Ogi (all of them were 110 e+, only lucius 120 e+)
@covert condor Lucius in front even if faction disadvantage. He should still be strong enough. I will use either Vedan or Sav as carry.. I prefer Sav but your Vedan is E+. So Lucius Hogan tank, mireal back middle. Last 2 slot is nemora and Sav/Vedan for now
Been stuck here for about a week. Need help please.
Who should I get
@hollow harness just finished last five stages of chapter 6 with your advice. Thanks! Didn't realize how good Fawkes + Belinda were... Over the Saveas + Shemira I was using.
I think it was the extra CC that made the difference. :)
@main epoch Ya.. once Sav hit pass 121 then u can proceed
Stuck on 11-28, would like help with my lineup.
@elfin cargo Your welcome ๐ Yeah double DPS is not that great especially Shem+Saveas. Imo they need a team to play around them so they can carry with ult(shem) or pure raw dmg (saveas) + it's better to have one of them +20 level of your team
Good to know, will keep that in mind when I snag my next Shemira ;)
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@kindred silo wow.. you have mythic already. But try not to use lights here. Try Wilders? U have decent wilders
@fierce kayak luck of the draw I guess. I will give that a try. Thanks.
@kindred silo Yeah you definitely have the box to pass it (minus the RNG). Try with Tasi/Arden/Bel (top to bot) and Lucius/Serius, this stage is not really about healing, it's more about fast dps and good cces (rng tho)
what can i do to improve my line up? my top 5 leveled are my normal team. stuck 5-32
@hollow harness thanks Iโll that.
@pale kettle You'll improve your box fast enough, can't really change a lot here. For now you can honestly go full lightbringers (good against maulers stage) with Lucius/Hogan front and Raine/Mirael/Thane (top to bot). Lucius is your best tank, hogan decent for dmg/cc, mirael always mid. Only raine and thane are meh at this level, but the 25% faction bonus is really good. I wouldn't invest in your 2 graveborn heroes, they'll be better for late game
ok thanks
Should I ascend Estrilda to L+ here? Using Hogan and fire lady
Just got Nemora, what lineup should I run with her?
@turbid ore send a pic of your heroes
Wut I did lol look up
@sonic lily seems a good idea imo, lvl 121 she'll help your belinda a lot, and you have decent option to replace Hogan + L+ at this point she should do good dmg and survive enough
Hello guys! Need help, should I swap out Ira for saveas? Like is it worth the 5% less bonus
@sonic lily Estrilda works well with Thane, Lucius.. and probably Belinda as well. If you plan to use any or all of those in one team, you can upgrade her using Mirael and Hogan. Just make sure you won't eat anyone you still plan to use.
@turbid ore Seirus Kaz Saveas Tasi/Arden Shemira/Belinda if you want the minimum team bonus.
No Nemora?
@tough elbow imo you lack ccs with this comp. If you had Arden lvl 141 it would be really nice. Estrilda is good for Belinda but quite squishy against this particular comp (they are pure raw dmg). Does Nemora even have time to use her ult on this stage ?
Ooo I've no luck to get another Arden ๐ noo.. she did before being able to use her ult, so I should not change ira out for saveas then? Cause if I was to change then I was thinking of feeding ira to nemora
Can you try with Bel/Arden (even elite)/Nemora (top to bot) and frontline same. The idea would be to kill Vedan fast so your belinda can ult their backline Leaving Lucius tanking with Nemora helping a bit ccing Khasos. If i'm correct with your current setup estrilda does nothing, so if Belinda is behind you should have enough dps to kill Vedan before they kill Estrilda
@hollow harness thanks so much for your input! I'll give it a shot!
@turbid ore Nemora is only useful for healing, more or less. If she dies before she heals or charms, she's pretty much useless in your team. Arden and Tasi have greater crowd control. You can use Nemora in arcane lab. Survivability is crucial there and she helps a lot.
@tough elbow you'll tell me ๐ i'm not at this point of the game for now so i don't know how strong ascend AI is, but i guess Leg stages strats work aswell, the ai doesn't get smarter with level :p
So who should I use as the front line heroes ? @pale rover
This is how they looking now
@pale kettle Arden/Khasos/Saveas (top to bot), Gallus/Ogi. I don't play khasos but when i get wrecked by ai khasos is mid and his axe hits everyone (stupid). Arden will get focus by silvina, die maybe so she'll got on khasos after. Gallus vs Gallus dumb fight, meanwhile saveas wrecks their botline
hey, all - I have a couple of options for tanks and was hoping for some feedback. I have an L+ Lucius, an L Hogan, and an L Thoran.
- I could use the L Hogan to bump Lucius to M, leaving me with M Lucius and L Thoran
- I have the fodder to bump Hogan up to L+
Do you think I'd be better off with 1 M and 1 L (option 1) or 2x L+ (option 2) for the front line?
What should I do
Should I ascend Belinda/Hogan? I donโt really use Mirael
Whats a good comp for soren
Yes or no to this Ascension. :)
How do you defeat this level 15-16
Bummer... Lol. Really want a leg level.
@indigo zodiac I would bump Lucius up to M and use Thoran. Hogan is useless later, but you need Hogan to be L+ to ascend Lucius
give me a team
@coarse oracle try getting a faction bonus maybe another lb or mauler
@elfin cargo long term it's NOT worth it to ascend with Raine. At all. @prime vapor What should u do? in what regard? @prisma granite you dont really have any heroes that can bypass Soren's charm (Warek and Ulmus) so just use your highest dps stuff
I would replace Hogan and saveas especially if your in chapter 15
Ok thx
Okie thank you @mossy ledge
help my lineup. whats my best 5
In regard of leveling up thane, Lucius, or literally anything else because Iโm totally lost in that part, nothing is working and the more I level up Lucius the more I fail but idk if thereโs a tipping point where he becomes god
@ivory walrus try using this brutus garden saveas tasi nemora
@elfin cargo if you really want the ascension level you can feed Hogan and Angelo. You would just have to make sure u had another tank. You will get back all the resources put into Hogan when you feed him
whose my frontline @mossy ledge. brutus and tasi?
Brutus and garden
@ivory walrus I wouldn't put Arden fl, either Tasi or Nemora better
oh my arden in the front.
Tasi could work to since she just teleports
Is it good to use arden instead of nemore for 15-16?
The reason is Tasi and Nemora have more game-changing ults than Arden and can survive longer than him too
If they're in front they will get energy faster than if they were in the back. I used Tasi FL to beat 10 levels of King's Tower where I had a 120k power deficit vs. ascended heroes
ok my tasi died. before she could tp once
Try again.
@ivory walrus reset your arden, even L+ he shouldn't be that high. Try going with Saveas + Brutus front. Tasi/Arden/Nemora backline.
no my arden is my tree boi. once i get him to L+ ima straigh level him to 141 for 3 roots
@ivory walrus I just noticed u have an unused L Belinda. Dafuq, USE HER. Use your E+ Fawkes too. those heroes should have levels man
i dont like light bearers. theyre ugly besides lucius. also i have enough backliners. i dont have enough frontliners
Well then enjoy being hardstuck more lol.....
i dont have tanky bois
@ivory walrus Put Saveas lvl 121, rest 100. Then level them a bit like Saveas 131 and rest 110. Go with Tasi/Arden/Nemora (top to bot) and Brutus/Saveas front (try swap them, either you go for Niru, either you go for Vedan to reach backline fast)
AH yes the Saveas preach ๐
hmmm my saveas died in 2 hits
I find that hogan gets thrown around and ends up behind enemies most of the time for me
I've played Belinda through s9 because i thought she was OP, then i tried saveas for S10 and hes so stupid with a good team around him (cc + brutus)
tbh i dont like saveas that much. he just kills himself in peaks of time and labyrinth but everyone says hes op so ive been leveling him even tho i want to get arden to 141
What team comp would you guys recommend?
damn i hate you
Lab and peaks i don't like him either, having him 100% ult at the start of each fight is not that usefull compare to belinda. For stages tho it's different as you start from scratch
wilder backline with lucius and brutus. im a big leafy boi fan
@ivory walrus Even if 141 arden is good (really good) at this point for you it's not gamebreaking. You need DMG to pierce through their tanks and Arden is not built for that
Yeah wilder backline is brutal
@pale kettle Your lineup is flexible, you have a lot of options. Try lots of different comps against different stages but try to keep faction bonuses as best you can
psh damage. who needs damage if they can do anything for a full minute
@ionic spire k thanks ๐
Iโm still lost in regard of leveling up what
@pale kettle Np! Also you have two core faction comps you can use: Lightbearers with Belinda, Lucius, Fawkes/Raine (or both), OR you can use Wilder (Nemora, Lyca, Tasi)
@ivory walrus The more your wait, the more Nemora, Isabella and Ira will be close to their ults
@prime vapor I wouldn't overlevel Lucius. You want your solo carry Shemira to be overleveled in that comp (in my humble opinion)
K
nemoras the pain in the ass. if she didnt ult theyre team would be dead
@ivory walrus you can interrupt Nemora's ult with cc
if i dont cc before she ults. only saveas will survive and hes not at the point of 1 v 4 yet
Or high damage
@livid plover Gotta read sticky posts good sir, needs to be more specific than "pick my lineup for me to beat x stage"
Ok, I will do that next time 
@ivory walrus Honestly try like i said, it will only cost you 20 diamonds. Go with Tasi/Nemora/Arden (top to bot) and Brutus/Saveas. With Saveas 130s and the rest 100s (you can put arden 110). Tasi will always ban isabella, Brutus will tank with his ultimate meanwhile and will debuff the whole team for saveas. Arden being bot will not waste a root on Tasi (too far). So with a bit of luck on crits and ccs, you'll kill Vedan and Ira before Isabella and Niru begin to be a threat. If you have tasi ult then it's almost GG
Could I get some advice on a team for beating 5-36? I also have about 700k xp but not sure who to level first
Just pulled elite Brutus from Tavern tokens! ๐
<@&546913281135214593> Could I please get more help in #lineup-help every now and then? being stuck behind slow-mode SUCKS also @loud scroll U gotta post your lineups and the stage to get help like that
I'm thinking Lucius/Brutus front row, nemora/saveas/tasi back?
@muted forge No. Get a faction bonus. use Nemora/Lyca/Tasi and Brutus/Lucius front
It says my file size is too big to post it
Or use Athalia/Belinda/Lucius to get a lightbearer faction bonus. @loud scroll crop the photos and u will be able to send them. Also u have to send one at a time
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Sorry, lunar i spent my daily staring at small pictures already. I get headache if I do it to long
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Help please with the best lineup
@misty wharf Post stage you want help with too.
@idle matrix Don't ascend yet. Wait till you have another legendary+ tier hero like Hogan/Mirael/Angelo
Which one should I level up
The best team! Is there is one team and good ? Or i have to chose heros and change them in stage or arena ?
Situational @misty wharf. No absolute
@soft dragon in the second example would it be Lucius/Brutus, athalia/Belinda/saveas to get two bonuses, or drop sav for nemora heals?
@idle matrix doesnt matter too much, either Raine or Thane fulfill similar roles. Raine is HELLA good with Belinda though. @misty wharf you will have to adjust team based on faction advantage
This is my current lineup
@muted forge You could definitely do the two Maulers to get the better bonus, or drop one for a Wilder. I would try both if a stage gives u trouble
Oh. Thanks @soft dragon @still oar
Ok I'll experiment a bit, thanks heaps @soft dragon ๐
@misty wharf I wish I had as many options as you lol. @loud scroll what stage were you stuck on and what specifically about your team are u wondering?
We don't remember each chapter @loud scroll.
Repost your question like below
@soft dragon I started work so I'm less capable of continuing to be here in the same capacity. There are a lot of pinned posts to help with most of the questions; noone reads them.
Iโm stuck on 5-36, I could level at least one character to 81 but I donโt know who to prioritize or who works well with whos
Stuck at 15-40 advice would be appreciated
@pale rover I've been telling people to read them. It's np if u can't help right meow, just whenever ur available cuz I notice #lineup-help sometimes gets neglected in favour of #classic-questions
Please don't make use scroll 10 posts up and down to compare your stage and hero
Please ask with the correct format
If anyone needs advice, put BOTH your stage and your team in one post. Bean is right. And please read the pinned posts.
Oops, my bad. Anyway anyone have any advice for me on 15-40
Wtf 10m power ๐๐ณ im disappointed โน๏ธ
How many days you spend in this game to get that power ๐
@compact pilot You'll need to level and not use Lightbearers against Graveborn because of the faction disadvantage. If you have no better tank options, you will need to overlevel. Wilders are strong against Graveborn. Brutus Shemira front, Arden Tasi Nemora at the back (for the minimum bonus).
Which is best to ascend?
Stuck on 5-36 sorry for the confusion
@loud scroll Grezhul Hogan front, Tasi/Arden Silvina and Vedan at the back if you want the minimum bonus.
Wait @coarse oracle your question is Ascension? The answer is none. But who is belindas fodder
@still oar yees, and hogan
Thank you @pale rover
@pale rover can u help me ty
Ascend Belinda you don't need Hogan for GW right?
And you can actually ask ascencion in #classic-questions
Shoul I get Shimera or Nemora?
Thanks.
@ember bane You will need to ascend a bit more.
You can try the ff team:
Grezhul Thoran
Shemira Arden Silvina
Sadly Lightbearers won't be as effective, so I can't recommend them for this stage.
Iโm using Hogan ๐
i have golus and khasos to replace him tho :/
And cool, thank you, people from the #classic-questions tells me to ask here, ๐
Anyhow, thank you @still oar
@dense leaf Shemira.
Team:
Lucius Grezhul
Shemira Arden Silvina (get her to elite) for the minimum team bonus.
@pale rover Thank you
You're all welcome, everyone. Good luck with progression.
Can someone help advise! also, i have sufficient coins/tokens from labrinyth to summon another elite hero. Whats good?
6-36 stuck any advice
Should I swap athlia for silvia because athlia is doing no damage
How can I beat them? Is my squad bad?
Should i ascend ogi or arden?
What do I do here guys?
@dire radish You've done well building your team. You can try replacing Shemira with Raine for a 4-1 team bonus, and Belinda works well with Raine as an enabler.
@ember nebula arden 100%
What would you do in my place @pale rover ?
@ember nebula Yes, definitely Arden.
My goal is to have 1 more character reach Mythic so I can level all my heroes to 161. Wilder can reach another mythic if I fodder an Arden+. Is there any advisable moves with this to reach another mythic? Or should I wait?
@craggy bough Yes Silvina would work better because of the further ascension, but you will need a crowd controller. Replace Belinda for Fawkes if you want to maintain a 3-2 bonus.
@gentle zodiac Honestly I ate my Ulmus to get my Tasi to Mythic, but I don't recommend foddering mythic tier heroes in general. If you can wait for another Ogi, Make a Legendary+ unit (Ogi main, Ogi fodder, Ulmus fodder) then another Ogi elite+ to get to L+ if you don't plan on ever using Ulmus.
Again; better if you can wait for an Ira, Ogi or another Arden but it may take a while longer.
Thanks guys :)
Is this a failed reroll
I know i shouldnt waste ardens but damn my trigger finger be twitchin
I was thinking about that too. Wait, sac ulmus, or sac Arden.
Or use nemora as fodder since you still along way to m+ nemora. L+ ogi with nemora and build her again from store n @gentle zodiac
Shemira is my main lab purchase for now.
Is nemora really not that much of a concern early?
Seems like itd hurt to fodder her
Some people use store heroes as fodder. Wait can you buy ulmus in challenger store ?
He really high @teal glade. He has m nemora
Ohhhhh
Yes you can. @still oar
Actually better solution than killing nemora or arden just use faction scroll on Wilders
I used 60 faction scrolls on Wilder today and that was the end result.
Nice. you can use ulmus as fodder @gentle zodiac. You can buy him
@gentle zodiac If you really want to buy and use Ulmus again he's readily available in the Challenger store.
No real losses on your part.. just the wait.
I only have 2 Ulmus, and I havent heard anybody say hes a great hero, so maybe I will do that once I get 1 more elite Ogi
But let's be honest, nobody buys Ulmus in the challenger store.
@gentle zodiac Ulmus is better later in the game. Compared to other Wilders, however, he isn't preferable.
You only need 2 r+s to do that good luck
True. But just in case you wanted to regain your elite+ Ulmus.๐
None of those that are elite onwards are fodder, so no. @gentle zodiac
That's what I thought too. Oh well. For now I wait. Thank you for the advice.
Need advice?
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Post both screenshots of your hero list and the stage. Only posting one part means we can't give you proper advice.
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Hallo hallo
Tips?
There's my current collection with the reroll if anyone could line them up (a general start im not stuck or anything just needa get a starting set up)
Is Ankhira good?
@ember nebula swap positions of golus and thoran (I would use vedan instead of thoran). Reset your level 62 and use those resources to level your top 5. Also swap position of nemora and khasos
But who for swcond tank saveas?
@pale kettle ogi niru frontline lyca vedan ferael backline
@ember nebula im not sure what you mean. Vedan and Golus would be my frontline. You can try thoran instead of vedan
Ok
One final tip for you is that your resonating crystal is off. Your highest ascended heroes should be your top 5. So, your e+โs should be the ones levelled while your eโs should be in the resonating crystal. This will allow you to go past the max level of the eโs
Who's vedan?
Sorry arden** not vedan
Alright ty!
Should I change anything
Oh crap so should i reset everyone then? And put all the e+ at 100?
Cus your help workes for that level now i am stuck on 7-40 estrilda just one shots everyone excrpt nemora
I am also about to get another summon at the labarymth shoud i get she or another nemora?
@silk hare no just give me all your summons XD
Ignore him @ember nebula he maybe trolling
@ember nebula you should always follow that your highest ascended is your top 5 it will push everyone past their cap. & itโs up to you, people will say shem is godly but not until after 161 imo. I would buy Shem probably still
Lol sick screenshot m8 I r8 8/8
Ok
https://imgur.com/gallery/WPLFfkC guys Iโm stuck any suggestions lol
Any recommendations on line up for general use? Or who I should use as my main lineup. Don't mind having to reset. Haven't had an easy time trying to compose a good team
@gloomy monolith Saveas is a must, Arden for CC, Golus is good wall, Khasos is tank, buy Nemora in maze
I like golus and khasos in front there with saveas safiya fawkes behind
Id go for Isabella. Shes done good for me so far and I'm on 9-12
One thing with Isabelle is that she will steal your own guys health, I donโt think itโs good early but :0
https://imgur.com/gallery/ guys any suggestions trying to get the best line up lol & Iโm stuck in this lvl ๐
Probably need a bit more levels, wilders weak to mauler. Maybe replace Ulmus with hogan
My niru ira and savaes are expendable though. I trade them in and out of the lineup as the situation arises
My isabella is my strongest hero tbh. I dont think I wouldve made it as far as i have without her
She was one of my highest tier in the beginning but I didnโt like her. I think at 181 she becomes decent to use
Any tips guys? Been stuck for ages...
Put your shemira in the back def
Shemira is a tank at that level^ also I think fawkes might help ya out a bit with brutus. How well does your Brutus do? Heโs pretty strong but you have no physical damage dealer besides him I think itโs wasted a little
Ahh. My bad. My shemira still has to sit in the back lol
Used to help a lot of players under stage 10 and it's now my turn to ask for help
Stage 11-12
@tranquil hill yeah brutus and shem usually are last standing they do alright
problem is anyone i put in the back ussulay dies quick. Fawks banishes the archer dude in the middle and i can barely get any of the others to fire off before dying
@manic salmon Bump your saveas to 141 stop keeping them close in levels, try putting Frontline: Brutus Ogi
Backline: Saveas Nemora Aarden
Maybe Athelia instead of ogi makes sense too
Can i incorporate shemira into my lineup? And is that smart to do
I think you're doing fine without her
@spark jay is shemira able to get her ult off? Might just switch positions for shemira and Brutus. Could also stick her behind Brutus if itโs bad enough. Lyca stays cause duh. So Arden and nemora arenโt rooting charming huh?
@wraith pawn I think golus/lyca in front and saveas/safiya/fawkes behind may be good
ive tried fawks instead of nemora and its been close a few times
Is it mainly just nemora charming shemira or Fareal on her?
Could potentially use silvina to stun nemora(idk if she would target numisu?) better 3 second stun than to do nothing
Or potentially Brutus in 1 with athalia to knock them into ya (maybe she doesnโt survive to do that hmm)
ive gotten so close
just now havd shemira left with their backlineand time ran out i wouldve wo if i had 15 more seconds
NVM
PASSED FCK YEAH 10k diamonds and 12 summon scrols for me ๐ ๐ ๐
Help for 11-28
@tranquil hill is lyca a better tank then hogan or is the haste buff just that OP?
Mythic or not to mythic?
@wraith pawn i just believe hogan is not very good, and the haste buff is OP :p
I'll try it out! I have her in the resonating thing anyway :)
safiya and lyca would make saveas verrrry strong in the beginning of fights, while golus tanks up and maybe fawkes can make it a 4v4 (i assume lyca will die )
you also will prob get a lot of random heroes but for chapter 8 and 9 i recommend keeping an elite or e+ ogi if you have it. was my MVP there
@spark jay ayyyy congrats ๐ and 10k diamonds?? holy moly
yeah the progression reward and then chapte rcompletino rewards
shame didnt pull anything useful tho....just need another brutus shem or nemore to ascend my first ๐ฆ got my first tasi though so thats something
im only chapter 11 but i barely pulled tasi 2 days ago, we on the same page there
still no nemora though ๐ฎ
yeah two more labs and i can get that last shemira i need
Anyone use eironn yet in their guild wars?
Need some help with what faction to pull for. I have 3 faction scroll and 100 tavern token pull.
Thanks @hollow current
Which hero should i buy in the lab shop?
Shemira
^^
Morning all
Shemira or get another Nemora to ascend from Lab?
Any advice for my Legends' Challenger formation? Not used in a formation right now is a Legendary Shemira, Elite Brutus, and E+ Athalia.
Im stuck on 8-16 and would appreciate if you guys could help me with my lineup. No idea what to focus on except Brutus n Saveas, trying to get nemora n shemira to e+ but drops are pffffdf
What am I supposed to do here
@onyx relic I think get Nemora first. Get Shemira next.
Shemora is pretty weak until at least level 81, and you probably want her to be L+ before you start using her. Nemora will be much more effective for you right now.
@hot bear Um. Brutus/Saveas/Hogan/Fawkes/Raine...maybe? Or Brutus/Saveas/Hogan/Fawkes/Khasos. Or Brutus/Saveas/Khasos/Nemora/Arden. Finally, you can try Hogan/Fawkes/Raine/Nemora/Arden. But it's all hard to know without seeing the 8-16 enemies.
@upper path Try switching Saveas and Lyca, and Hogan and Seirus. Otherwise, wait to get Hogan and Arden to level 41 (as they both get a power boost).
Halp guys, damn trees heal so much
@clever bison MVP as always <3 Its an annoying Silvina that oneshots my team one by one, thats the only thing
Would I use Eironn in my lineup at all?
@hot bear i think this is 8-16 right?
@trim depot you could try replacing Tasi with Athalia, so you get the bonus for 3 Maulers. Could even try replacing Lucius or Tasi with Skreg, but I doubt that'd work well. Idk how well you normally do, but if you put Brutus alone, he might be able to damage them enough for another fresh team to destroy them. Although really, you should just focus on leveling up a bit more. Try to get the rest of your team to like level 130 or something?
@hot bear Hope it helps ^^ And yeah, Silvina is a real pain to go up against.
@worthy nymph Is he elite or elite+? I'd recommend pairing him with Arden. Otherwise, don't field him.
@clever bison I just got him yesterday. He is elite
@clever bison Cheers, yeah I'm out of hero exp so my heroes are low, although I did cleared it just now with Tasi and Arden
Hey there. I currently can't decide what my best go-to lineup would be. I'll get through chapter as I level but I kinda don't know how to utilise my roster for the arena as defense or what the general use team would be.
I'm pretty rarely using lightbearers even tho I got so many and is there a decent way to fit Ezizh oder is there just no point in him here?
@glad ledge Saveas/Hogan+Lyca/Aarden/Nemora in the back
Or Saveas/Golus is ok too, for team bonus
I never even considered lyca.
Is Brutus just not worth for not getting to E+? And I Frontline Saveas then?
@glad ledge Hm. Saveas/Golus/Brutus/Khasos/Ezizh could maybe function, but since none of them are Legendary I doubt it. You don't have many options but...Arden/Nemora/Belinda/Fawkes/Estrilda might be your best bet? Maybe replacing Estrilda (or maybe Fawkes) if you can get Hogan to E+ (preferably L+).
If you can get Lyca to E+, I'd definitely use her with Arden and Nemora. And if you also get Kaz to E+, you could do Arden/Nemora/Lyca/Kaz/Ezizh, although you may not have enough tankiness.
Ezizh can be really nice in certain situations even as Elite. He's not the greatest tank, but he works really well with a good tank (i.e. Lucius) because he gives all members a 30% defense buff while ALSO nerfing nearby melee attackers AND is capable of restricting enemies from using their ultimate (as long as your team uses theirs first) AND helps your allies regenerate energy AND charming an enemy to walk towards him (which can sometimes be super useful, i.e. making an enemy backrow Saveas walk towards the front line while also not attacking for a couple seconds). The main problem is that he's really squishy and will always walk towards the frontline and thus dies fast. Which is bad enough outside certain situations, and even worse before level 141, where he gives allies energy even after death. But hey, it was only because of him that I got through chapter 11.
Hi, Im not sure whats a good lineup to go with, can someone advise please! currently stuck at chapter 5 :(
brutus sucks at this low level imo, he's a 161 pick, saveas frontline works just fine
Saveas/Golus/Aarden/Lyca/Nemora is imo your best team right now
Pur Lyca in the crystal so she can get to lvl 101 and just use her
same here @native hollow
lucius+hogan front
saveas+lyca+aarden back
or you can switch hogan for kaz if you want team bonus
@hot rock i can get a hero from the store from lab, what would be good or would it not affect the overall line up?
@native hollow Right now, there is no good option. Shemira isn't good until higher levels (preferably at least level 141). Nemora will be more helpful for you at your level, but unfortunately mext chapter is filled with Maulers and she'll be destroyed.
I'd say wait until you get a Shemira or Nemora from the Tavern, and then get a 2nd copy from the Labyrinth shop so you can make it E+ right away. Otherwise, get Nemora.
@clever bison would i incorporate nemora in the line up? or no point
@native hollow Yeah. Nemora/Lyca/Kaz in the back with Lucius+Hogan in the front.
@mental hemlock thank you โค
Stuck on 10-28. Any help would be appreciated.
@slender ether Hm, I'm not sure. You could try swapping the positions of Nemora and Tasi, and hope that Tasi teleports to an ally instead of an enemy. Might also be worth replacing a forester (maybe Nemora?) with Raine. Or replacing Nemora with Arden. Although, you're a little underleveled. It would probably help a lot to get all of your heroes to at least level 121, preferably level 130+.
Stuck at 12-8 also down 150k power
Took forever to get her, when is Athalia worth using?
Stuck on 5-24, just got Saveas to Mythic+. Should I reset and overlevel him to solo carry?
Fuck I just relieased I could of gotten Saveas to Legend+ an I messed up e.e
Should I fuse anyone?
@maiden cliff you mean elite+? Lol :p
And um...it's up to you. Personally, I think he should be L+ before overleveling him and using him as a solo carry. Especially if you're a F2P player.
(And I think the max level for Elites is like 100 or 120? So keep that in mind too).
I wouldn't do it, but if you have the gems to spare, then by all means.
@ivory swan Meh. I wouldn't. If you really wanted to, Thane to Legendary and Khasos to Legendary...but I would recommend to just wait.
@clever bisonis Warek worth putting to legend?
Should I keep levelling Shem and Saveas? Or just one or the other?
Refund the experience on anyone not your top 5. You can level the rest in the crystal
@ivory swan ehhh I'd rather make Golus or Khasos Legendary first. But I've never used Warek so...
Just make sure you don't use Khasos or Warek as fodder. They're ascended tier heroes.
@clever bison Although I don't see him as a very effective monster I might just put Khasos to Legend. I don't have much experience using Golus or Warek. I know Warek is too for guild battles but I've never used him.
Am i too low lvl or just an idiot? I cant seem to pass through stage 7 levels
Any help would be appareciated
@split oar levels shouldn't be too bad of a problem, although more would for sure help.
However, Lightbearers deal 25% more damage to Maulers, so that might be a problem. Your Wilders are fine, but maybe use your Lightbearers (Fawkes, Miriel, and Estrilda/Thane/Hogan)? Alternatively, Graveborn are good against Lightbearers so the Wilders + Thoran/Grezhul/Silvina maybe?
I'm stucked at 6-12, I'm using golus+Hogan (front), Belinda+Fawkes+Saevas (back). What should I change or what to do?
@dense charm not make saveas 87?
With that xp u could make belinda 81 too
Stop going for 5 heroes at a time with xp go for 2-3 81 and 2-3 61 because every 20 lvl they get way better stats and skills bonus which will carry hard
@dense charm yeah imo, your Saveas isn't strong enough at rare, regardless of level. You'd be better off getting two heroes to level 81 instead (maybe Hogan + Belinda, although I guess you could also keep Saveas + Belinda).
So, my nexts steps are to lvl Belinda and Hogan to 81, then level some of them to 101 or lvl 2 more to 81? I'm leveling 5 at time, because of crystal, now I know that its better level some to some point (61,81,101...)
Who in the 1st 3 am I getting to L
I'm stuck on the last lab boss. Cruised through everything up until this. The issue is that mirael insta kills almost everyone with her ultimate. Can I do anything against that with this?
@coral solar I think it will be between arden and nemora. I have lucius so my personal priority would be arden. If you think you need heal more than cc then go for nemora
@iron fern I think you will definitely want to replace Shemira with a other, since Shemira isn't that good at the level. You could try replacing her and Nemora for Miriel and Raine, so you get the faction bonus (+15% health and +15% attack I think).
Good idea! I'll try that, but I think they all die from that damned mirael anyway
@iron fern if that really the last stage then you just need to fight them twice. 1st fight with other heroes that's not as strong as your main hero. And then finish them off in the 2nd fight
I did it, spent a duras tear so that Brutus could live to kill something. I tried using my other heroes, but then I would just give mira more energy to insta kill everyone even earlier. Thanks for your help!
Any suggestions for what I should focus on for progression. Kind of hit a wall here
Make this team and you will not disappointed @pale kettle (you need good gear on shemira)
Thanks, I will try resetting my heroes now and trying that
the position of hero should be modified base on enemy team, I often use tasi in front
11-32 need advice
@sage fog replace Shemira fot Arden or Lyca. Maaaaybe Eironn. You want the faction bonus.
@sage fog maybe brutus shemira tasi lyca and arden/nemora
@torpid goblet maybe place Saveas on top so that the Wilders don't wreck him. And switch Tasi and Lyca, since Tasi is capable of teleporting away.
You might also want to wait until you can get Brutus to level 141. He'll be immune for an extra 3 seconds, which is a HUGE boost.
Stuck at 8-40 for awhile now need aome advice pls
@vivid stag too much damedealer, focus on saveas, remove bel and thane to add nemora and arden
@vivid stag Hmm. Put the Lightbearers on top. Maybe use Nemora and Vedan instead of Brutus and Saveas? Or replace Saveas with Nemora?
Can also try replacing Brutus+Saveas with Nemora and Seirus.
Oh, and yeah, youd probably want to use Fawkes instead of Thane.
@fiery moth That team you suggested is working wonders ๐
I went from 7-8 to 7-25 in an instant.
nice to hear that, this team also require luck so you should try many time when you stuck, a lot of time I pass chapter doing this
@pale kettle Next time you hit a wall, you could also try replacing Shemira with Lucius or Ezizh (imo, Shemira should be a higher level/ascension before using her, and Lucius/Ezizh will give your team that extra tankiness) and swapping the positions of Lyca and Tasi (since Tasi can teleport away to an ally).
11-32 any tips about that stage?
any tips for 27-40? 
credit card 
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@pale kettle um...not unless you can send a screenshot of your heroes and the enemies in that stage
This a good idea? Or should I wait for another Elite+ Lightbearer?
do it!
@brittle summit if you dont need hogan go for it
hogan is useless
@brittle summit if you have another tank, then yes. Otherwise, wait.
Estrilda doesn't count as a tank. Neither does Ulmus.
What about Seirus? Does he count as a tank?
Really struggling here, any thoughts? Not sure if I just need to wait for higher levels!
no need for higher lvl. switch positions of saveas an shemira (he have enough hp and defensive to act like a tank). I think your shemira get killed to fast
and maybe try to swap nemora with belinda to get faction bonzus
@maiden cliff I'd suggest replacing Saveas with Belinda. If that doesn't work, then reset Shemira, replace her with Saveas, and level Saveas to 81.
Good day friends of afk, Im open for help ๐
swapping Saveas for Belinda did it in one! thanks guys!
good to hear
@opaque frost lol you make it sound like you're ready to help others :p
First, reset Ira and level Lucius to 141 so he gets a small buff in power. Then...Try replacing Fawkes for Belinda? Or Saveas for Belinda? Maybe even Miriel for Belinda. Hard to say. Try different things.
@clever bison I help alot ingame ๐ well the thing is 140 is max on lucius atm
Mirael does alot of damage atm and most of the times gets all the kill credits ๐
I'd exchange Lucius into buttom of crystal if I had a 5th legendary+ but not yet sadly
@opaque frost make thane to L+ and change him with lucius in the crystal
@wild snow Missing material atm, I'm not using ascended as material ๐
But I was thinking of either doing fawkes or thane on L+ asap I have the material, so you suggest Thane?
thane only useful if you have mystic gear
I literally prefer fawkes because of his 5v4 ability but dont know how thane works at higher level
@fiery moth no mystic gear at all atm ๐ trying to get to 12-2 for guild shop mystic gear to appear
he need crit to shine
I think he could use a better damage dealer, but Fawkes is really nice so...
I never really used Thane, so it's up to you.
@clever bison Saveas and Mirael are a good damage source atm, but my frontline is letting me down. I will be forced to change mirael asap I reach 160 anyway ๐
so I guess I just need to level up my guys a bit more until I can advance and getting a 5th L+ for crystal asap
Tbh, even though I used to use Mirael all of the time, she's taken a backseat. Imo, Belinda is better than her.
And yeah, waiting for a 5th level 141 hero is a good idea.
Ok thanks to you all ๐ โค
Still stuck on 8-16. I'm not sure what I'm suppose to do to get through this stage asides from AFKing or getting lucky with my summons by getting the heroes I need for ascension.
Any tips for lineup vs these?
@brittle summit um, I'd recommend putting in Tasi (and maybe Lyca too). And make your Belinda level 115 instead of Fawkes.
The issue is I can't make my units currently on the crystal go past lv100 because I'm lacking Elite+ heroes at Lv101+.
@pale kettle Um, Lucius, Belinda, Estrilda, Arden, and Nemora? Reset Brutus and Shemira and get as many as you can to level 81?
(Imo, Shemira amd Brutus aren't good enough until high levels/ascensions).
Although if you're using Brutus/Shemira as carries, give them the faction advantage. Use Brutus with 4 random mauler heroes (any level/ascension), or Brutus/Shemira/Vedan/Safira/Khasos.
Hi ! Im stuck at 6-36, should i grind or is my team wrong ?
@brittle summit Belinda is Legendary (L+ maybe?), so she can go up to level 140? And actually, reset Lyca and Silvina and overlevel the crap out of Belinda or Saveas.
@versed canopy I might suggest replcing Saveas for Athalia, so you get the factional bonus. Alternatively, get Belinda on the crystal so she is level 82 and replace Saveas with her.
Thanks ! I have a few hours before i can place belinda in the crystal but ill try that, should i place the team some certain way?
@versed canopy Positioning looks fine to me, just need to replace Saveas for your faction bonus.
So I did 10 or so tries with this and the tanks just cant handle the damages for nemora to heal
Hello guys
Help please. Im stuck 3days. ๐ญ
@versed canopy Hm, try switching Athalia and Tasi's positioning, as well as Hogan's and Estrilda. If that doesn't work, try Belinda instead of Athalia. If that's still not enough...you'll just have to wait to level up.
i'm new here, and new to the game
need tips to which hero get with 45k lab coins, nemora or a second shemira
@hollow juniper not sure what I can say other than level up. Try swapping Raine and Arden. If that doesn't work, swap Raine for Hogan (or Estrilda), and place Lyca on the backrow. You might also want to try just swapping Raine for Fawkes.
god i hate this game someone please help me ive been stuck on this stage for almost a freaking week and other ppl in my server are already passing it
Can some1 help me? should i buy 1 nemora from lab coins 45k or get a second shemira to epic plus her? i'm stuck in 5-12.
@median lance Welcome to the game! Shemira and Nemora are both really strong, however Shemira isn't strong enough until at least level 81+, preferably level 141+. Nemora will be a lot more useful for you until then.
Of course, you'll be wanting Shemira for later in the game (as she becomes one of the strongest heroes), so it's not a bad idea to get her now (especially since you can make her Elite+ right away). It's up to you.
@clever bison Will do, oh and it doesn't have much To do with lineup but I have yet to see any heroes dodge a hit despite dodging being a stat is it normal ?
Tyvm, enjoying it so far, and yeah that's why idk which one to pick :< i can 81+ her soon, and if i get her epic plus would be good, but i'm dying too fast, dk which one is better for now.
Maybe get nemora and focus getting her later? but i was thinking about to get shemira copy and then use faction scrolls 10 on wild to try get nemora or the bow with unicorn girl
@pale kettle well you are higher than me, but you probably want Tasi, Arden, Nemora, and maybe Brutus and Ezizh/Lucius? You'd also want to reset Thane and Shemira, and make Brutus and Tasi level 180.
It's difficult because you have so many good Lightbearers x_x I think if you can get all of your heroes to at least level 161, it'd be easier. Or for a solo carry get Shemira to 181 (preferably closer to 201), then fill the rest of the lineup with Graveborn for the faction bonus...
@versed canopy I've seen it a lot. I don't know the mechanics too well, but pay attention to a hero with high dodge. For me, I see enemy Silvina's dodging my attacks quite frequently. Iirc, it's basically only your agile characters with good gear that will be dodging stuff.
The saveas im facing is going all Neo on me while mine just gets 3 shotted
@clever bison people with lower levels in my server are passing it and i dont understand how. im capped atm with not enough hero esse to upgrade them
Whats about brutus/ezizh/lyca/tasi/nemora?
Did quite a lot of change and I now have a basis for the crystal. Should I go ahead and reset Fawkes?
@brittle summit definitly. Reset and put fawkes in the crystal
@median lance well Shemira's main problem is that she needs to get her ultimate ability off. If she's being attacked before then, she's a bit useless.
It definitely might be a good idea to get more wilder heroes. Nemora, Tasi, Lyca, and Arden are some of the best heroes in the game.
OH! I just remembered! Chapter 6 is filled with Mauler enemies, so your Wilder heroes will probably struggle a ton (Brutus and Saveas are already OP. Against a Wilder team, they'll rip through you).
With that in mind, you may want to wait on getting Wilder heros. Lightbearers could be worth investing towards, and Shemira could do decently at Elite+
Hey guys, I'm stuck on 8-36 and I have no clue who to use.. :( Please help T-T
reset your 3 elites and level elite+ instead so you can go beyond lv100
@wild snow that is not enough damage at all. vedan is in that enemy lineup. you cant cc him in his ult and he will just kill the whole team and recover the small amount of damage you did to him. the two ppl who passsed it used thane teams and the other guy who passed it well, he used a shemira team
@pale kettle well, your Lightbearer heros makes it really difficult for you. They're the best you have, but they're weak to Graveborn. If Shemira can't carry, then she's not as useful. It's just all around a really bad matchup for you, unfortunately.
Cool tyvm Freyja, i think i'll get shemira for now, and try get some wilders later =p tyvm!
@fervent coyote Ohh wow, I didn't knew I can get 100+lvl like this o.o Thank you so much
^^
So.. i think i will stay at 9-35 for a while. Low ascending and low level 
any help much appreciated
15 40
i used that exact same team to beat it so you might have to switch the formation around a little
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Should I do some ascensions to get Brutus to mythic? Iโm a little stuck and donโt think I need them all long term
?
I heard Brutus is one of the best heroes so I think you should upgrade him to mythic
Iโm not an expert at the game, but Iโm just saying what Iโve heard from others about Brutus
I need some help with heroes I should use as well
Help
Any ideas for setup on 8-32?
Use Saveas. Hes pretty guud
Try to find agood combo with him.
@dusk plinth reset tasi und apgrade an elite+ to level crystal to lvl 120
okay
In your case i would lvl arden up because he is very strong at 141 and he is easy to upgrade to L
@brittle summit which heroes do you have?
@unique rivet like aYEEZ. Reset athalia and kasos and lvl your elite+ heroes to get over lvl 100 in the crystal
After that you can try
Pos 1: hogan
Pos2: saveas
Pos3: tasi
Pos4: arden
Pos5: nemora
not using savageas?
@wild snow
Didn't have any maulersto work with saeas before
@brittle summit you can try brutus/estrilda/saveas/belinda/fawkes or instead of estrilda ezizh.
Main goal is to kill niru quickly so brutus at pos 1 and sav at pos 3 to kill fast enemys pos 1 and then focusing on niru
can any one help with my line up? been stuck on 11-24 for a long time, canโt even kill one๐ญ
@wild snow my heroes get dominated before Niru is taken out.
Can anyone help me in questions I need some advice for my feature team
@brittle summit who is fawkes taken out of the match? With his coffin
@wild snow Niru, but not till Fawkes was almost taken out.
For some reason it doesn't trigger in the beginning.
Trying to beat 11-40 today so I could do 10 wilders summon with reward, but it's pretty damn tough
Feel like I tried every variation. May just be too underleveled. Any advice?
And also any advice on who to level is appreciated ^^
Use Mirael instead of Ira. Hogan instead of Warek. Try Nemora in place of Khasos also.
Lightbearers deal up to 25% more damage against Maulers.
Stuck
Any help?
Stuck at 12-36
Should I swap athlina for Siliva because athlina does no damage
Do you have another Support like Tasi, Nemora, Arden?
Stuck ant suggestions?
Where to use my 8 factional scrolls?
Mistakes were made first days of playing, but should I buy Shemira or nemora from lab shop soon?
@mystic willow your nemora is already leg. Go for shemira
@mystic willow buy Shem and only Shem from the store for now, until you have a total of 6 copies (which should equate to a L+ and an E+ copy of her), she'll let you progress a lot, also take Athalia out of your pentagram, Tasi and Brutus too, and put all L+ heroes in there, their level cap is 160, which is much more beneficial than having useful heroes in there because the resonating crystal let's you catch up hero levels for free
@torpid stirrup Wilder is always the safext bet, but you're only 1 Brutus from being able to get him all the way up to Mythic+ without needing any other copies, so I'd say out of them 2, Graveborn are heavily reliant on levels to be good, 161 and above for most of them, LB are decent but the game seems to just throw them at you constantly so I wouldn't worry too much about them yet
@livid terrace Arden should never be frontline, if anything, I'd upequip Nemora and let her take the hit from Silvina, Arden roots are much oppressive than Nemora's single target Charm, and can win you fights, put Lyca up front, she's the least useful after the first 10 seconds of battle
I only put Arden FL bc someone told me to bait out Silvina bc she dangerous, but Iโll do that rn, thanks
@livid terrace bait Silvina onto Nemora and leave her behind Brutus, Silvina will get stuck on him while your Saveas can take down some of the enemy team
I just wish my Brutus was not Epic LOL, heโs so weak
Unfortunately that's true, but once you get a level 141 resonating crystal, Brutus will gain access to his extended last grasp, which is 7 seconds of immunity, which means he can out tank pretty much any Legendary tank, even at Elite
Yeah, true. Still losing the battle, Iโll just let RNG do itโs thing
yes luke is right and after lv201 he just stays alive and says "f u death" i freaking love brutus XD
Rng plays a huge part in this game, never dismiss a strategy after 1, or even 10 attempts
Yeah, I rely heavily on RNG.
@rugged marten okay thanks for the tips ๐
and the good thing is, dont have to worry about that stage in campaign again . such a relief
@verbal solstice shemira lucius front, backline, belinda, faweks, arden
Na, Saveas would be a much better carry to use than Shemira at this point for you @verbal solstice
Take Lucius out the pentagram and put an E+ hero in there in place of him, then use Lucius and Hogan frontline, Saveas, Belinda and Fawkes backline
Ok, thanks
Is there a point of going fpr saveas now, while he will swap him in one month cuz he will be capped?
not to mention hes only elite+
its not like going with shemira until chap 14 its super bad
It's like saying what's the point in upgrading Shemira when Ferael can outdps her by a long shot at 240 so you'll stop using her as main carry anyway @pale kettle
1month its not a year
whats the point of playing this game if it will die at some point anyway?
Faster progress is faster progress, end of
So, at what point should I use my shemira?
Ok ty :)
It worth ascending belinda and losing fawkes?
Guess ill wait for more fodder then :/ dont use fawkes but 4 skill no food. Ill wait
Fawkes has good uses for some stages and is great in PvP
Stuck on this level! Any advice for team composition?
Swap Shem for hogan, swap vedan for Belinda, swap Safiya for Shem. Swap positions of Belinda and Shem
Do you see any chance for me beating 10-40 with those heroes at there current state?
@somber lance no
what should i change
@fossil moth yes. Your Sav and Lucius level is high enough. Drop Shem, she can't help u much at this stage from my own experience. Try Lucius nemora tank, Sav Arden tasi back. Keep trying, you will get past.
@snow meteor use Hogan over thane, I don't think thane is good at this early stage. Try to use Sav as carry instead of Shem if possible for now, and try to build Arden up for as your crowd control. It's early for u too so no worries, just ascend with careful planning.. don't rush. Keep pulling more then we will advise and help further.
@snow meteor Saveas. Best carry hero before level 161, after level 161 Shemira will be the carry.
oh i thought you meant i had them, thanks, also should i build arden to elite then use him, orr nah just use him now
I'm getting stuck at 11-33, is there any chance that I can complete chapter 11 today? I want the 10 scroll wilder
@snow meteor he is great, the only legendary hero ppl are using even till maybe late game. His roots are very useful. At LVL 141, his 3 roots is insane.
Should i use arden over belinda? or shem rn if not them then who
Anyone can tell me what team I need to do for pass 9-20?
I could use some help on 7-40. Maybe I should spread the levels differently?
@devout lark U have better account than me and u stuc at 7-40... try Brutus/shemira(FL) Belinda/Nemora/Lyca(BL)
I'll try it out but I think the Brutus lower 100 will still die in seconds and kill Belinda before she can ult. With the line-up I posted I can have 1 memory ult and 2 shemira ult when I get lucky. But that maybe kills one enemy.
I went full retard/graveborn, and now i have to adapt. Which way should i go?
@tired mountain Brutus,Sav, Nemora/Tasi, Belinda, Lyca
I use Athalia smartly to counter back line and sometimes even in the front.
who do you think i should put in my crystal i've 2 slots left for now
Im stuck
Any suggestions? (9-36)
@storm magnet Sav,Nem,Belinda,Hogan, Estr or Silvina
@somber lance Thanks i'll do the switch when i've to. For now i think it's better to let my primary team so i can boost my carry. I was asking for those two slots ๐
@coral solar