K thanks
#lineup-help
prime vapor
dim wyvern
light elm
I'd rather play Fawkes and seirus over vedan ira
prime vapor
Uh keep switching everything until something works, that’s what I usually do
full rain
haha
been trying for a good while to get past this one, the formation in the pic that im using isnt my normal one its just what iv been mesing around with to stop saveas kills everyone
prime vapor
4-36 kaz is an abomination
wary fjord
Please help with 9-38
full rain
try to get a arden
prime vapor
Brutus might help in this situation?
full rain
his roots are op, and yes brutus is really good up front because of his immunity
wary fjord
I've tried replacing graveborns with Brutus and Saves but not better
dense pumice
Any tips how to beat 7-36?
versed remnant
Any formation help for 9-36?
prime narwhal
Anyone worth ascending or should I wait for better drops?
keen cedar
Should i ascend shemira up using any of these guys or wait till i have more?
slate mason
@keen cedar usd silvana and niro
keen cedar
Thanks!
slate mason
Dont use any scended tier heroes to ascend up to legendary cuz legendary tier heroes are best fodder for that
Legend tier heros can only fodder up to legend, ascended tier heros dont have that limit
Legend+ technically I suppose
keen cedar
Thank you! Great info
last cobalt
Is it worth feeding Ulmus and IRA to Nemora to make her legendary?
slate mason
@prime narwhal estrilda is worth it but looks like u need the heroes you would be using as fodder. Maulers wait for brutus. Graveborn save for shemira
@last cobalt if you reaaaaalllly need her legendary (ur capped out at 120 because of it) then id say yes
But if u have 5 legend heroes and u can just resonate her past 120 I would do that
woeful quarry
Stuck on 9-35 T.T
Any help? Thanks!
full rain
Stuck on 10-36
fading cipher
Stuck on 11-28
fair sky
do you think I have better chances if I switch brutus and lucius AND the lvl 1 one and saveas?
I'm sometimes really close, but I couldn't clear it yet
keen creek
@fair sky switch brutus with Lucius and then switch ankhira with saveas
fossil moth
Any tips for 10-36? Tried already a reset on heroes to get saveas to 140 but that was a complete waste of gems.
keen creek
fierce rover
9-32 any suggestions I can barely kill one person
keen creek
Try taking out all your wilders and replace with estrilda Raine and vedan @fossil moth
manic nexus
Any tips how to beat 6-12?
fierce rover
@manic nexus get urself a saveas and invest everything into him
placid dirge
@manic nexus u dont need a saveas u need a primary tank. Hogan, ulmus, raine Arden kaz
kindred nymph
Any tips
fierce rover
@placid dirge he has an ulmus and kaz
whole spoke
What would be the best defense?
placid dirge
@fierce rover I'm aware I gave him a lineup
fierce rover
Right so he doesn’t need a main tank he has one he needs a saveas you know the unit legit everyone uses to push into lvl 161+ content xD
frigid veldt
I've hit this gloriously brutal wall with 11-28. Is there a combo that's even a slight chance?
placid dirge
@fierce rover I never used saveas and I have no regrets not using him. Hes not everything, I'm aware he is good. Forcing everyone to use him isnt always good
pale kettle
anyone help? getting stuck in ch 4. tried saveas at 41 but no change
placid dirge
@fierce rover I never used saveas and I have no regrets not using him. Hes not everything, I'm aware he is good. Forcing everyone to use him isnt always good
cobalt urchin
atm i use safiyah instead of saveas..
problem is .. estrilda is dieing instantly and khasos doesnt do any dmg
i just got lucius .. but i guess he would get insta downed before his ult
keen creek
Saveas caps at 160. Only good till mid game anyway
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin never got to use safiyah yet and are u using brutus or estrilda as main tank
cobalt urchin
brutus
safiyah gives nice buff with her ability to belinda (16% dmg .. 40% and reduction for enemies in zone)
wise merlin
@pale kettle Focus some resources on Arden, you need a whole 5 heroes to be on the same~ish level, Arden out of all these heroes would fit the best in your current state, and on the longer run to the mid-phase.
kindred nymph
Stuck here any tips
wise merlin
@kindred nymph Yes. Don't put Tasi in the Frontline and Brutus in the Backline. That's for starters.
pale rover
There are pinned messages in this channel that may be of some use. Tasi's guide for the walls is great.
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin hmm I run lucius brutus raine Belinda fawkes I assume ur back row is khasos Belinda and saveas?
kindred nymph
Don’t mind the line that much, was just experimenting since I kept losing
cobalt urchin
@placid dirge normally i have khasos where tasi is .. problem is isabella that will target safiyah here and she wont be able to put down her ‚shield‘ for belinda
do you think an elite lucius would be better than a M estrilda?
still perch
@kindred nymph you’re probably gonna need levels most of all. 10 level difference with Brutus not being able to hard carry is gonna make that one hard on you
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin try estrilda brutus saveas Belinda saf
cobalt urchin
brutus cant go past 140 since he is not L+ 😦
kindred nymph
Rip guess like a week of afk lol
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin ur gonna need a level up and grind ascension
still perch
@kindred nymph Nah, couple days. Just make sure you’re getting all your fast rewards n stuff like that
kindred nymph
Ye but should I go for 120 on em 1 at a time or like 110 gold enough?
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin times key
keen creek
I tend to avoid mages when there's an ascended silv on the opposing team
cobalt urchin
i dont have another carry that can go to 180
kindred nymph
@still perch should I be spending the diamonds for fast rewards? I haven’t been
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin my carry
cobalt urchin
😦 i pulled like 6 safiya‘s since wishlist and not one brutus
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin I only got 1 safiya
cobalt urchin
i will have to wait for another global launch pack 😄
placid dirge
@cobalt urchin well you'll pass that level sooner then I'll pass mine lol
cobalt urchin
where are you at? @placid dirge
placid dirge
21-12
cobalt urchin
damn.. well maybe i just need to unlock stargazer with vip to beat my level 😛
austere current
Best line ups for 12-7?
placid dirge
@austere current that Silva probs destroys your entire team
keen creek
Put your celestial lady in front of vedan with shemira right behind her @austere current
pale kettle
Okay so, I've opened her (Shemira) from a single scroll, but I want to + my beloved Ferael as soon as possible (need one more E+). Should I use Shemira in my team or can I sacrifice her if I would have the option or wait...wait...wait?
light elm
Wait
wise merlin
^
candid turtle
What's the best team I can make and what should I push for?
austere current
@keen creek who is the celestial lady?
light elm
@austere current athalia
keen creek
Athalia
pale kettle
Hi everyone. I just rolled a Brutus and since I saw he's a good hero I need an advice in team building. Till now I was going 4 deathbringers and Nemora to use the buff, what to do now? Is the faction buff essential?
austere current
Om thanks
light elm
@candid turtle saveas arden lyca nemora and a tank, probably golus brutus hogan. Priority is getting saveas to legend so that he can get 121. The team only works after that
keen creek
Give this a read https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
light elm
@pale kettle overlevel shem till level 100 she carries till chap 6. Brutus becomes amazing after 141. Shem becomes amazing after 161. Before that they're good but not God tier
pale kettle
K thanks :)
@light elm and what about lineup? Shem, Brutus, Nemora, Vedas and Saveas can work?
light elm
Any lineup works until chap 6. For chap 6 there's a guide in pinned
Just make sure to overlevel a carry hero like shem brutus lucius and its easy sailing till c6
pale kettle
Perfect, thanks a bunch ^^
limpid temple
Ch. 10: Which is better? Saveas + 2 others at 121 vs. Saveas @141 + 1 other at 121?
fallen olive
@limpid temple
light elm
@limpid temple usually saveas at 141, but kinda depends on heroes
sick obsidian
Stuck at 10-36 they melt me after 15/20 seconds
narrow scarab
@fallen olive damn, nice shit man
light elm
Maulers melt wilders and graves melt lucius. Try saveas top instead of lucius or shem
fleet temple
Hey guys what you think bout my line up should I change something or reset something ? I stuck at 6-12
And what i do with all the Green Heroes?
fallen olive
I just keep one lf each and retire rest at cart.
sick obsidian
@light elm so is better to reroll shemira for saveas?
light elm
@fleet temple rickety cart and retire green
There's a chap 6 guide in pinned have you checked it?
@sick obsidian I'd say so. She gets better at 141, but saveas is still better
fallen olive
Shemira starta healing right away with ult at 161 which makes her insane
spiral geyser
God I keep getting beaten by this dude in PvP
fleet temple
@light elm no i didn’t checked that’s a good idea
light elm
Git gud mate shouldn't be beat everytime
spiral geyser
👌
onyx basin
Which should be my fifth hero? Since now I used Ezizh but he dies very quickly now
potent juniper
I feel like the only thing I can do here is wait it out for a bit, but figured I'd see if any one has any suggestions either way
light elm
@onyx basin lyca. And replace shem with arden/tasi
ember bane
Need line-up for Labyrinth
stark tusk
Help please! Struggling in chapter 6 and the labyrinth, who should I be using after a mix of ascending yesterday....
light elm
@stark tusk for chap 6 check the pinned guide
@ember bane nemora is amazing for lab. If you get some energy relics use belinda and just ult every fight
wise merlin
@stark tusk Place Saveas within the Crystal if able to, and Estrilda as well. Both are very useful
light elm
@potent juniper yea looks like a pretty solid team, levels are what you need
potent juniper
@light elm Figured. Oh well it was about time, I guess. Just need to wait out some of that purple dust.
Thanks anyhow, mate!
pale kettle
stark tusk
@light elm didnt even those, thank you.
spiral geyser
Should I replace Numisu with Arden for PVP? What other optimizations can I make here
stark tusk
@wise merlin is it worth the gold currency? to unlock more slots? i have one on cool down and the other filled.
light elm
@pale kettle hogan front and overlevel one hero, probably mirael or ira, whoever does more dps
@stark tusk its the only place you can use that currency
pale kettle
Could use some help with this stage. This Vedan likes to beat my ass with his ult.
wise merlin
@stark tusk There's nothing else you can use that specific currency on except for it, Everytime you have enough, you should feel safe and secure to unlock a slot. ^^
naive crown
This any good? I just use it for everything. I have a few more elite and elite+ unleveled hero’s I don’t use
light elm
@spiral geyser after arden is 81 sure. Doesn't look like you have any other optimizations for now
@pale kettle try lyca for lucius and saveas top
@naive crown ferael not so much for now. He's good later in the game
spiral geyser
Thanks!
pale kettle
Replace Lucius with Lyca? Isn't she kinda squish?
light elm
She gives haste. Faster charms, faster ults. Maybe it won't work, but you can try it.
Saveas brutus lyca tasi/arden nemora is one of the classic combos in the mid game. Carried me from chap 10 to 15
pale kettle
Okay. And that's Saveas on frontline?
edgy stump
Who would you ascend next? Currently have 1 legendary Saveas
wise merlin
@edgy stump I'd use Hogan and Mirael to ascend Belinda, she's your main DPS, as it seems.
And don't worry about losing resources invested in Mirael, you get them all back. ^^
brave gyro
Hi, i stuck at 11-32, anyone have idea how can i handle it with this characters
light elm
@edgy stump I'd do belinda, and try my hardest to get another copy of her. If you wanna play it safe, ascend hogan.
Arden for wilders and silvina for grave
Don't use white tier units as fodder
@brave gyro could you link the stage too it helps
edgy stump
@wise merlin Great thanks man!
wise merlin
@edgy stump Best of luck! 
brave gyro
light elm
How does lucius work for athalia? Place her in front of estrilda and check
fallow drum
Hi guys, should I upgrade Shemira to 121 or the two 100s to 101?
brave gyro
Still bad
light elm
@fallow drum do the 100s
@brave gyro Fawkes takes out estrilda right?
brave gyro
Yes
edgy stump
@light elm What do you mean by white tier heroes?
ashen schooner
Ascended tier
light elm
@edgy stump go to portraits and check it out. The white border ones are hard to get, don't use them as sacrifice. Official name is ascended tier
ashen schooner
Basically only use heroes that can only get Legendary+ as their highest tier, as ascended tier heroes are harder to get, etc.
light elm
@brave gyro try seirus nemora tasi for Fawkes belinda athalia. This one needs more RNG to work so try a bunch of times. Nemora top seirus bot, saveas behind him
brave gyro
Like this?
light elm
@brave gyro tasi for belinda if this doesn't work.
@fierce kayak try belinda for nimisu and keep her top. Few lucky crits can clear
onyx basin
@light elmt thank you, it worked, who shall i give the better gear to between nemora and tasi?
light elm
Whoever dies first
Later on its nemora
fierce kayak
@light elm ok tks. Top to aim Sav?
worthy ocean
Silvina or vedan?
light elm
@fierce kayak yep
@worthy ocean silvina
fierce kayak
@worthy ocean most ppl will say Silivnia!!
brave gyro
Serius suck completly:/ he like insta die
worthy ocean
Cool I was leaning her way
wise merlin
@worthy ocean Why not both? Use one Vedan and one Niru for Silvina, and then, use one Niru and one Silvina for Vedan.
fierce kayak
@light elm noted tks
worthy ocean
Or I could make one elite plus
wise merlin
Elite+ is always nice to have, though Imo, the more fodder to have, the better
worthy ocean
I guess that was my real question both or one elite +
solemn swift
Help please
wise merlin
@worthy ocean Ah.. Iguess you could invest in Silvina then ~
light elm
@brave gyro 
probably need a few levels then I can't think of other stuff
Elites and legend tiers aren't very useful on heroes you don't use. Can't be used as fodder and you don't use the hero anyway
worthy ocean
Word
brave gyro
What should i lvl up?
wise merlin
@light elm Saveas and Arden are being used as Fodder. Are you serious?
You don't keep them all the way, once they're at level 160 and have done their part, they're gone to Ascend an ascended tier hero
light elm
Wat
drowsy raptor
wise merlin
light elm
@brave gyro the other 4 heroes.
drowsy raptor
Who do I ascend? I could make horsey girl mythic if I did her, as im about to get the second estrilda after beating 9.
wise merlin
@drowsy raptor will the Estrilda you'll receive be Elite or +?
drowsy raptor
I have an elite already
light elm
If you can ascend her without using raine, go for it. First ascension priority is saveas
@wise merlin elite. He has another elite
wise merlin
I mean, when you'll beat chapter 9.
twilit bobcat
hi guys, im sorry to bother you again, i just need help with what 5 heroes should i level up and who should i focus on? need helpppp
light elm
@wise merlin chap rewards gives elite heroes
wise merlin
@light elm 👌
fierce kayak
@light elm think I need to ask more. My team melts like eating ice cream in the dessert 
drowsy raptor
Im so goddamn far from the next E+ mauler
fierce kayak
@light elm afk* or L+ Sav or I dunno.. get some Wilders CC like tasi to help...
wise merlin
But if you eat the ice cream..... --Oh whatever I'm just stupid.--
fierce kayak
@wise merlin
drowsy raptor
Cc > all, stick arden, tasi, and nemora in with some dps and a meathead and reroll until you win
frigid veldt
Getting worked over. Is there a setup I'm missing that stands a chance or should I just AFK for a few days and come back to it? Lol
drowsy raptor
Nemora frontline because she can
light elm
@fierce kayak what happens if you replace arden for shem and just try to brute force it. Do you die even faster. Problem is khasos melts wilders at that stage in the game, and you don't have a lyca to help the cc get out faster
drowsy raptor
Id replace tasi first
fierce kayak
@light elm thanks.. I will keep trying. Sad thing is I don't have single Tasi/lyca to play around.
pale kettle
Can i send pn for help
light elm
@frigid veldt try brutus down and kasos/golus top
drowsy raptor
O yeah wtf that's only E brutus, not worth
light elm
@frigid veldt when you get brutus to 141 he becomes amazing, he's kinda meh atm
frigid veldt
@light elm ok thanks I'll try that
static mango
Any tips on 10-28? This line up will usually leave vedan and saveas
light elm
If saveas targets top, put brutus there
onyx basin
Any better lines on 10-32? Nemora dies first no matter what
static mango
Savaes targets brutus
light elm
A few days would clear the deadlock I feel. Or a few pieces of gear.
@onyx basin keep her in front and saveas behind her.
open mural
@static mango invest heavily into saveas instead of trying to get everyone to an even level, a maxed saveas will carry you easily
onyx basin
@light elm last Qs is this combo good for guild bosses and other fights than campaign? Ps you are the best
static mango
Lmao.., upgrades Lycra’s hat by 2 and I beat it... this game sucks
light elm
@onyx basin it's really nice for most of the campaign before 15. For guild bosses there are better teams
fierce kayak
@light elm I cleared with 1. Brutus 2. Lucius 3. Sav 4. Hogan 5. Belinda. My 3 tanks in middle help me break thru their tanks. Actually you gave me confidence and idea to keep trying.. I actually had given up cos I thought i under leveled.. lol.. Tks.
pale kettle
Hello i Play for one week can you guys give me some Tipps please
marble stump
Can anyone help me decide which characters i should focus? Im thinking to build team with brutus + Graveborns heroes. My draw is also at 98/100.
light elm
@fierce kayak 
@violet thicket overlevel your carry
@violet thicket check pinned for c6 help, also you're very underleveled
@marble stump level up the characters with the highest ascension, regardless of team
storm magnet
Hello, should i ascend my Saveas (with saveas & khasos?) which Graveborn should i ascend ?
I'm stuck on 8-24, tower lvl 100 & i can't manage the Secret of the forest.
violet thicket
Yeah i just started yesterday thats why my heroes are all low lvl
ember bane
Which is easy of them
violet thicket
Should i just reset 4 of them and then overload 1 of them?
marble stump
@light elm so faction doenst help much? Cause Im thinking to get Brutus, Grezhul, Ferael, Shemira, Isabelle
fierce kayak
@violet thicket just try to make Sav at least around 20 levels above the rest
violet thicket
Aight ill try that :)
pale kettle
Can you pls answer my
broken jetty
so i am runnig this team atm, but i am really stuck on 7-28, any chars i should swap?
runic tundra
show your battle stage also.
light elm
@marble stump the heroes you level aren't the heroes you use.
@ember bane I always try for non brutus. And this one has a Fawkes
@storm magnet I'd do silvina with the 2 vedan. And don't use khasos
violet thicket
But should i try and Hogan in there, he has the highest ascend but not score
broken jetty
@runic tundra me?
fierce kayak
@violet thicket and I will use Hogan over estilda as tank for now and try insert to Belinda into my lineup. Sav remain as carry. Last slot up to you to mix and match.
light elm
@broken jetty yes
runic tundra
yes @broken jetty they cant help you unless you show heroes and battle stage. so they can help you to fix.
storm magnet
Thanks 😃
marble stump
@light elm Oh I see, but what would your reccomended lineup gonna be? I'll stop spreading my lvl lol. Yeah just noticed its bad idea to spread
broken jetty
there you go
fossil vessel
marble stump
Also is it worth to reset some of of them?
light elm
@marble stump overlevel shem or brutus for now. Till c6. I assume you're not there yet. Reset ferael and tasi for elite+ units
@broken jetty reset morvus for belinda.
gilded fractal
for soren, what do yall think of lucius/fawkes/belinda/estrilda/sav? i have raine and ezizh as options too. i just feel like sorens charm overwhelms lucius' help alone
so fawkes could help clear charm alongside lucius
light elm
@gilded fractal silvina is much better to counter the charm than Fawkes or lucius.
marble stump
Oh great, I just put my shem into resonating crystal 
my bad. Thanks for the help :3 @light elm
gilded fractal
for what its worth, i have the energy replenishing artifact on lucius to get his ult up as fast as possible @light elm oof i dont have a good silvina up rn :(
light elm
Best guy to counter charm is warek, but at later levels.
For now try 1 run with estrilda, and 1 with raine
broken jetty
@light elm ty, looks like it is gonna work, just need beter mage gear first 😃
open mural
i like athalia and silv for soren to get behind him
light elm
I have used silvina for soren forever, but sacrifice her to shem yesterday 
gilded fractal
@light elm okay! i only have silvina as elite+ with my crystal heroes at lvl 130, would she be of use?
violet thicket
Wich 5 of theese should i use and what formation
marble stump
Btw, whats the difference leveling elite+ heroes than elite hero that could reach ascended rank
violet thicket
I have enough to level everyone to lvl 61 except 1 to 50
violet igloo
I feel completely helpless, how do I clear this ? My team gets almost 1 shot. I tried with Nemora and Athalia and Shemira but get destroyed.
boreal sedge
You guys are lucky I don't know what to do with my lineup I have no tanks
pale kettle
Ascended has higher maxlvl
runic tundra
@broken jetty why don't use Raine instead Mirael? Raine can support that 61 skill
pale kettle
Any advise?
open mural
@violet igloo get saveas up over your other team members as he's a carry
@marble stump nothing really, but the legendary tier heroes get capped at lvl 160
storm magnet
oh i forgot to ask, what's the best comp i can make for Wrizz / Soren (i can reset & i'll have another slot in the crystal in 5h)
gilded fractal
@marble stump all heroes are roughly the same average stats at similar ascension ranks, its just that the "ascended category of heroes" can be ascended beyond legendary+. so long run, they are stronger
boreal sedge
Same anyone have any advice for me
broken jetty
@runic tundra idk will try it out, kinda new to this game so do not know much about what char is better then the other
marble stump
Ah okay, thanks thr help. Now i need to find 3 more hero that work well with Brutus and Shem
open mural
@boreal sedge have your highest ascension heroes as your main 5 to put levels into and then put everyone else in the crystal so you can push them beyond the level cap
light elm
@gilded fractal with lucius shield on top of her own, I think it'll be effective. You'll probably be killed by the purple rain and not charm
@violet thicket max lucius or ira he can carry a bit
@marble stump I don't get what you're trying to say
@pale kettle use faction scrolls and stuff to fish for a tank
@storm magnet saveas brutus silvina shemira works fine for guild boss
runic tundra
@broken jetty always level highest ascension , regardless of team.. you can put any you use occasion to encounter in resonate crystal
gilded fractal
@broken jetty youll learn through experience!! @light elm alright, so no fawkes and use silv?
open mural
fawkes is a pretty niche pick for soren, cause he could also get charmed and then can't ult
light elm
Well I've never used Fawkes coz never pulled him so not sure, but I think it would be better. Theoretically
marble stump
@light elm I'm quite confused when you say reset Ferael and tasi for Elite+ units, while my only elite + is Estrilda and Hogan. I thought you reccomend me to level them
pale kettle
@light elm alright
light elm
When you get elite+ units, you can't level something you don't have
storm magnet
@light elm Thanks, Khasos for the last one ?
ember bane
Final stage plz advice ty
marble stump
Ohh i see, I thought I should lvl my Hogan haha. Sorry x3
near sand
what's the general rule when it comes to creating a team? is epic always gonna be better than rare+? i got an epic morvus. should i use it over my rare+ saveas?
light elm
Oh yea sry I thought I mentioned him. Apparently not. Lifesteal is what will keep sav and brut alive. After the meteors
@near sand till level 100, or c6, ascension is usually better. And blues really aren't a thing, every team is almost exclusively purple or above
storm magnet
Ok thanks a lot for the tips
ember bane
@light elm any advice for me please
light elm
Could you link the relics
near sand
so crappy purple > good blue. right? is that always the case?
fleet fulcrum
You wont have any blues in your team except for the first day you play
open mural
true^ you'll get some elites soon
fast charm
Stuck on 10-15 any tips to make my lineup better?
pale kettle
any help for a line up. (oof slow mode)
open mural
@fast charm post the stage along with your heroes for help
light elm
@near sand in the early stages there's no crappy heroes. Okay maybe ankhira still sucks
@fast charm link stage
@pale kettle link hero
pale kettle
fast charm
light elm
Your saveas Lvl 1 bro
open mural
lmao yeah i saw that too was very confused
gilded fractal
LOLL
pale kettle
everyone level 1. saveas die too easily pre level 61
near sand
i'm still on my 3rd day. sorry. the reason why i ask is because i've read how crappy some are. i'm unsure if a rare+ 61 saveus for example is better than an epic 61 ankhira. or somebody like that.
fast charm
😥
light elm
@pale kettle build ira and mirael for now they're your dps. Thoran and grezhul/hogan as tank. Raine or arden after 81 is your last hero
@near sand saveas is amazing at 121. He's decent at 101. He's okay at 81.
gilded fractal
@near sand youre very early game, before 121 there are better or equal options to sav. off the top of my head i can think of belinda or mirael as examples
light elm
Shemira ira vedan are decent as well
near sand
so for now, epics are always gonna be better for me, right? until i reach 121 or mid game or whatever
cerulean shore
Oh mirael is crazy good for early under level 60
light elm
@near sand by the time you reach 100, you're gonna get purple saveas anyway
near sand
i guess i was just reading in to too much. i was trying to build a team this early in the game. thanks guys
somber hemlock
https://gyazo.com/9c5b08e0a9e2fd7a7879126dcfddc4c9 https://gyazo.com/f29ff756d70bd9b5e92c1eb04f712069
ember bane
@light elm
fierce kayak
@willow plaza I think sav works better behind brutus
willow plaza
Yeah he is but still no dice
light elm
@somber hemlock hogan belinda khasos for the wilders, but I doubt it'll be any better.
@willow plaza don't think you can progress without some levels. You can try sav bot to kill off nemora, but it means more tries because he gets charmed
@ember bane send the stage pic too it got lost
willow plaza
Okay thanks
ember bane
@light elm
crisp coral
Hey, any tips ? thanks 😃
light elm
@ember bane keep trying until lucius nemora and hopefully tasi dead. Finish them with safiya khasos saveas vurk and a tank
obsidian hound
11-20 need suggestions
kindred silo
Who should up to lvl 121 first? I only have enough dust to upgrade one right now.
fierce rover
9-32 is beating my ass
coral solar
@fierce rover show your entire team
last granite
@coral solar try
Saveas
Lucius
Silvina/tasi/fawkes
Athalia
Belinda
fierce rover
@coral solar everyone above the ones shown are active
weak dawn
This level is giving me cancer, any suggestions or am i just too weak at this point?
coral solar
Show everything you might to do some changes with crystal
quaint tangle
Herro
fierce rover
@coral solar
quaint tangle
Im stuck. Is it a prob of my lineup?
coral solar
So brutus hogan savaes either fawkes or mirael and belinda
Get mirael in crystal @fierce rover
gilded vine
I feel my lineup a bit week. I think I should replace someone,any advices?
coral solar
@fierce rover take out ogi of the crystal and lvl up brutus
fierce rover
@coral solar when i have the space i will and i cant lvl brutus he is only a elite he cant go above 100 so he has to be in crystal
coral solar
@quaint tangle use ulmus instead of silvina
quaint tangle
Ok thanks
dense escarp
need some help guys i cant really figure it out
coral solar
Then lvl up mirael good heroe to have @fierce rover
exotic geyser
Need help, stuck at 10.36 what can I do?
last granite
@weak dawn try
Fawkes
Hogan
Saveas
Thoran
Arden
cinder lion
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/580655472705667073/image0.png any tips? I am stuck 😦 not sure what to change
molten lynx
@exotic geyser keep working on that saveas to replace belinda
coral solar
@cinder lion switch lucius with estrilda and belinda with savaes if you have athalia it could help
molten lynx
@cinder lion frontline with shemira with the first relic instead of estrilda also your team has 0 cc you need arden or tasi instead of belinda
pale kettle
Hey guys I need help trying to find the best roster posible with my current Heros ! Thanks in advance 😁😁
molten lynx
Like this
somber hemlock
@light elm beat it with sheer luck
jagged wedge
Is this maybe possible?
molten lynx
They have way too much damage for your team youd need a shit ton more cc and mitigation
dense escarp
can i have some suggestion? is vedan and shemera is too greedy? i have been stucking 😦
heavy lark
9-38 any help is appreciated
dense escarp
suggestion please 😦
heavy lark
@pale kettle you just hit level 30, grats. Your roster right now is strongest with your wilders, plus the celestial.
@dense escarp swap your graveborns out, and level up. Make sure you’re using your resonating crystals
dense escarp
what do you mean? ye i have crystals
pale kettle
yes
last rain
@somber hemlock
Nemora
Brutus
Lyca
Hogan
Arden
pale kettle
put shemira on nemora spot, on brutus spot lyca, on shemira spot brutus
@last rain how tasi works sintead of nemora?
somber hemlock
@last rain i wont have any damage tho
versed forge
the most powerful mid-game lineup is
Shemira/Saveas
Ogi
Arden
Lucius
Nemora
you rotate between shemira and saveas depending on your enemies (for example if theres a Niru enemy in front, you want to take him out with Saveas before he becomes a problem). If the team survives for about 10 seconds then lucius gives shield, nemora gives heal and saveas/shemira gives corpses
pale kettle
i mean it would be like, frontline lyca, brutus and then backline shemira arden and tasi
ah ok nvm, against estrilda you alwasy put lyca and shemira behind her, always
versed forge
i made it to 10-19 before level 70 with only shemira and saveas legendary, the rest elite+ only
last rain
@somber hemlock maybe hogan replaced with shem
@pale kettle worked first try what you said first
still perch
Looking for help with 9-38
violet thicket
Khasos or estrilda
pale kettle
depends on team but probably khasos
violet thicket
zinc token
What faction should i use in chapter 10?
jagged wedge
I use mainly wilder
pale kettle
idk just use lucius, belinda, estrilda, arden, ira for now, but you can swap freely ira for shemira or saveas as a solo carry @violet thicket , that will mean you will put him/her higher on lvls then others, well you can lvl up same as lucius and others can be behind
zinc token
I dont have any dps wilder sadly
pale kettle
@zinc token shemira, lucius, arden nemora tasi,
jagged wedge
I use ira, tasi, nemora, saveas and kaz
zinc token
I dont have 4 sets of magic gears
pale kettle
@zinc token lucius and estrilda arent magic
jagged wedge
U said shemira nemora tasi and arden @pale kettle so thats 4 magic
pale kettle
ahh i missread nicknames lol
molten lynx
The type of damage you deal doesnt matter but if you have tasi arden isnt as important
jagged wedge
What is arden used for? U never use mine
pale kettle
for cc
open mural
3 person root
molten lynx
Cc at 141 he can stun 3 people
jagged wedge
What is cc?
pale kettle
crowd control lol
hearty seal
I might need to level them up more but any suggestions?
olive swift
jagged wedge
How to do this?...
olive swift
Tad stuck
pale kettle
@hearty seal yes swap shemira with this Ezi something new hero on spots
zinc token
@pale kettle oof lmao you made me confused @_@ let me try that
pale kettle
@hearty seal if nemora doesnt ult before dying at all you can try swapping her with belinda for more fraction bonus
hearty seal
She ults but ezi dies right before she does
pale kettle
yea so let shemira go to frontline instead of him
do you have duras grace already? if yes give to shemira if she ults before dying in frontline
candid surge
Ive been stuck at 11-28 for so long I need help
zinc token
estrilda dies in 1 punch 
hearty seal
Yeah I’ll give it to her
candid surge
I must be doing something wrong because I feel like I should be progressing, but it hasn't been happening
pale kettle
@zinc token man dont use her :p, i missread names as I said, on your backline use wilders arden tasi nemora, frontline shemira lucius or brutus, try it
with this setup you can play to chapter 21 afaik, well lyca instead of nemora would be perfect
potent oar
Any advice?
zinc token
@pale kettle @_@ i mean i dont have 4 set of magic gears.. 3 to the most QQ
pale kettle
then get them :p theres no rush @zinc token
@potent oar swap use faweks instead of hogan
zinc token
Oof okay i will play with it @_@ thanks
pale kettle
@zinc token most ppl use shemira+brutus and 3 wilders with cc, thats pretty standard meta composition
potent oar
@pale kettle worked thx
zinc token
Rip @pale kettle i will get another set of magic then 😊
pale kettle
@candid surge arden, nemora, lyca backine, front...idk really about saveass, maybe just try thane shemira frontline
@zinc token yea man this game its not short one, you will loot lot of decent items over time
zinc token
so no saveas? u_u im still 10-2 lol stuck there
candid bone
woops wrong thing LOL
Was gonna send, should I do this ascension and replace golus for ogi? team is brutus , golus (maybe ogi if I ascend) belinda khasos and saveas.
narrow scarab
@IOV#5958
dire edge
If u can make legendary + than yes, otherwise no
fleet fulcrum
@candid bone dont use ascended tier heroes as fodder... ie dont use warrek to make sav legend
dire edge
Warek isnt that good tho
pale kettle
@zinc token then try wilder backline and saveas brutus front, how does it work for now?
fleet fulcrum
Warek is pretty good late game, specially for guild hunts. And he is ascended tier, i wouldnt use any ascended tier hero as food, specially not for a legend tier
pale kettle
@zinc token and you will replace saveas with shemira when you will be able to make her 161 for example, but i admit its quite hard in your case
zinc token
@pale kettle got passed that stage! :O!
dire edge
@candid surge try
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Saveas
Arden
pale kettle
@zinc token what did you use?
zinc token
I still need ascensions and gears, ill play it slow 😛 thanks @pale kettle
I used
Arden
Saveas
Nemora
Brutus
Tasi
pale kettle
Ye use that and swap saveas around ch13 for shemira
somber hemlock
https://gyazo.com/f29ff756d70bd9b5e92c1eb04f712069 need help with this stage
pale kettle
9-16, any ideas?
oak raven
So is it just not smart to use ascended heroes as fodder? Should I wait to get mirael/morvus/hogan before boosting lucius to legendary?
zinc token
@pale kettle stuck again at 10-4 LOL the enemy's saveas too stronk
@pale kettle lol endless saveas battle going on again lul
fleet fulcrum
@oak raven ye its better to wait
fallen temple
Need some help, i can really upgrade alot. But dont know witch one to do...
dense escarp
guys should i go kaz or vedan in early levels (chapter 5)?
fleet fulcrum
@fallen temple do you have more lightbearer fodder to use or not??
pale kettle
@dense escarp vedan and later merge him into shemira
mystic willow
What to focus on? First week
fleet fulcrum
First week and you pulled 3 athilas already.. focus on giving me your luck
humble cypress
New here, what is my best team con?
opaque beacon
Please help 9-38
fleet fulcrum
@humble cypress for starter only level 5 heroes, not more... you can reset your heroes in the rickety cart, just use the best heroes you can for now since you dont have that much choise (Elite heroes so the purple ones) and fill the last slot with a blue hero
late frost
Guys im stuck st 9-20
fleet fulcrum
@opaque beacon maybe put shem in the back, take out the other graveborn,, put lucius in (just for the faction bonus) maybe that will help
humble cypress
What level 5 heros? What do reset do? Should I build the team around the faction buff thing like 3 same faction for 15% atk and def? @fleet fulcrum
pale kettle
@zinc token just lvl up your saveas
zinc token
XD will do
opaque beacon
@fleet fulcrum tried all of that.. this was this another try
pale kettle
late frost
Can someone help who should i replace?
fleet fulcrum
@humble cypress try reading a beginners guide in #545929173471068170
pale kettle
Think I messed up my lineup... Dunno what to go for. Currently at 10-22
@late frost you're using top5?
late frost
Yes @pale kettle
pale kettle
9-16, any ideas?
fleet fulcrum
@late frost you basically have 3 hard carries with no support or cc
polar pebble
arden for estrilda?
pale kettle
@fleet fulcrum arden, lyca?
late frost
@fleet fulcrum going to replace seirus but idk with who
pale kettle
with tasi, and put saveas in frontline maybe
pale kettle
Think I messed up my lineup... Dunno what to go for. Currently at 10-22. Wanted to go Lucius, Brutus, Shemira, Saveas and Arden. But no luck in getting Brutus copies.
@late frost well swap serious with tasi and put brutus agaisnt vedan
fleet fulcrum
@late frost also... can you not just reset seirus and put his exp on hogan?? So you can have your top 5 beyond lvl 100?? Or you out of xp/hero essence??
late frost
@fleet fulcrum thing is want faction bonus
fleet fulcrum
@pale kettle show 10-22 lineup
pale kettle
fleet fulcrum
@late frost i mean,, you sont have to use your top 5 leveled... but having exp on an Elite character is not usefull since you cant level him beyond 100... if you put the exp on hogan and make him 101... all heroes in the crystal will be 101... soo if you put brutus in the crystal he will be 101 and by default stronger than he is now (every xx1 level is a powerspike)
late frost
Ok i will do
fleet fulcrum
@pale kettle do you have tasi??
pale kettle
No, I wish.. would love her cc in this fight
Wish you could control what enemies Arden roots 😍
fleet fulcrum
I found arden pretty weak before 141
coral hamlet
@loud dagger I’m trying to view your pinned message about the common walls in the game to look up some info about different units but for some reason it keeps directing me to clear my browser data and cookies. Just wanted to let you know. I was able to look at it yesterday
woeful haven
I am stack.. Can't level and not sure what heroes are good and what are trash and should be used to evolve others
Second part
fleet fulcrum
@woeful haven do not use ascended tier heroes to ascend others.
last rain
Any suggestions here?
eternal kiln
Hi guys !
I have a tough one, I am currently using this lineup, niru, thoran, shemira, tasi and grezhul.
However, I have the possibility to ascend to legendary either thoran or niru but I have to give up one of the two, should I do it ? If yes, which one should I ascend and what could be the replacement ? Thank you in advance
woeful haven
@fleet fulcrum that's mean I will be stack for looong time..)))
eternal kiln
Also, I'm currently stuck at 6-32
somber hemlock
fleet fulcrum
@woeful haven i know it sucks... but ascended tier heroes you will need later in the game and they are more rare than heroes you can get as blues... @eternal kiln do not use ascended tier heroes as food to upgrade... soo if you really want then upgrade thoran... since hes ascended tier and niru is just legend tier.
eternal kiln
Okay, but would it be a good idea or would it just destroy my progression ?
pale kettle
@fleet fulcrum Success! 😂
eternal kiln
Because niru is a actually tanking a lot and my tankline suffers a great deal, grezhul is not strong enough atm
boreal sedge
I'm stuck
fleet fulcrum
@eternal kiln i would wait for now... maybe do it when you have more fodder so you can keep niru for now... or till you get a suitable tank to replace him
@boreal sedge it looks like you lack damage... you have 3 support heroes in tbe back
boreal sedge
Yeah I'm lacking a lot
somber hemlock
u have 2 of the best ccers so theres that going u got saveas?
fleet fulcrum
Dont know how good belinda is since i never used her
boreal sedge
I'm surprised that I've made it to stage 9-20 with this team
somber hemlock
stats are what rules these sort of games
fleet fulcrum
Also rng... some stages ive done 100 times just to get past it with luck
fleet temple
Hey guys any advice for me please :)? Cant pass 6-12 😅
oak raven
Made it to the dreaded 9-20. Should I focus on getting my saveass to 141 or thane?
boreal sedge
I get nothing but support characters
fleet fulcrum
@oak raven i know everyone says sav... but i got past chapter 11 thanks to thane being 141... the last 12 parts of chapter 11 he just went off 1 v 4 mostly
Also got to 12-8 thans to thane... hes an absolute beast
oak raven
Yeah thane is super secksy
boreal sedge
@somber hemlock I do but he's only rare still missing a third to ascend him
fleet fulcrum
@oak raven specially with the crit relic on him,,, hes just immortal once he gets going... he almost always stays invulnerable.
oak raven
Is that crit relic from peaks of time?
fleet fulcrum
Yes
boreal sedge
My luck with draws is terrible
pale kettle
9-16, any ideas?
fleet fulcrum
Take estrilda out and put tasi kn
oak raven
I would actually put athalia instead so you get the faction bonus. I literally just beat that level with almost the same exact team. Used thane instead.
zinc token
Is it better to level all at the same time or 1 by 1 to get to next essence level (101, 121, 141, etc)
oak raven
Depends on what your strongest hero would get at a level break. Thane and saveass get very strong at 141. Shemira 161. They can carry the whole team
pale kettle
can anyone help me with my lineup
oak raven
Post a pic
oak raven
You have some awesome starting heroes like Brutus and saveass. You need 1 more dps. Kaz, vedan, and silvina are decent and do a similar role. Put your Brutus and hogan up front and watch the levels fly.
somber hemlock
3 dps aint the best id rec atleast 1-2 ccers
gilded fractal
anything i can do? or should i just lvl?
pale kettle
can i get hero names? like a 5 man team
oak raven
Have you tried demoting 2 heroes and get shem to 161?
wise merlin
@gilded fractal Level, in my opinion, your lowest level should be 140 so the rest within the resonating crystal will be level 140 as well.
amber hound
Would appreciate some help with a good core team to focus on! Currently running Lucius, Hogan, Nemora, Tasi and Belinda with moderate success. Currently stuck on 9-8. Thanks 😃
gilded fractal
@wise merlin alright! thanks
oak raven
@pale kettle I would go with Brutus, hogan, saveass, Ira, and mirael (aoe)
pale kettle
ty 😃
somber hemlock
@median star id go with arden tasi saveas lucius and golus maybe
wise merlin
@amber hound Oh your team sounds spiffing; though you could swap :
Fawkes with Tasi or Nemora, and Saveas with Belinda if needed to.
median star
@somber hemlock i’ll give it a try
pale kettle
not sure about ira or vedan tho
Now I’m stuck on 9-20, am I gonna have to just wait? Lol
oak raven
Ira is very strong early game and will be good for you at elite+
pale kettle
ah okay
amber hound
Alright, will try to swap them out. Awesome, thanks @wise merlin
wise merlin
@amber hound It really depends on your formation and faction advantages / disadvantages, as I said, in my opinion, your current formation sounds.. 
mystic willow
I just got duras eye and duras grace artifacts. Who to equip on?
Was thinking duras eye on saveas for attack speed and duras grace on Brutus?
median star
@somber hemlock i passed, thanks a lot man
amber hound
For sure, need to push for higher levels as well. Thanks again for your advice!
somber hemlock
@median star nice good luck stuck cuz i dont have tasi ._.
wise merlin
@mystic willow Dura's grace on Brutus? no need, his "Last grasp" ability is much better. especially post lvl 141.
Use it on another hero who isn't as versatile but is combative. For example; Athalia, or Khasos, or Silvina, and Hogan can utilize it pretty well, as well!
last rain
Need some help here
median star
@somber hemlock where are u stuck at? lol
mystic willow
Ok thanks, is duras eye good on saveas btw?
And what does “offsets up to 120% damage” on duras grace even mean? Does it offset the damage done to you plus an extra 20%? @wise merlin
somber hemlock
@median star 11-20
wise merlin
@mystic willow It probably means that while it's active, the damage you deal is increased by 120%, but don't quote me on that, I have no clue how exactly it works. 😅 I'd rather not give you false information.
But yes, Dura's eye is most utilized on Saveas.
delicate trout
Haaalppp 11-24
median star
@somber hemlock now i’m stuck again at 11-16😂😂😂
mystic willow
Ok, it just feels it’s description is kind of vague.. but what about tasi would it be good on her you think? Or should I just go with Athalia? @wise merlin
somber hemlock
@median star what enemies?
fleet fulcrum
@mystic willow i think the 120% is % of your att as a shield. Thats my guess
median star
@somber hemlock
wise merlin
@mystic willow It mostly works with Warriors / Assassins who are always attacking the enemies dead ahead. I'd say Heroes like Ezizh, Athalia, Silvina, Hogan, and Khasos, They'd utilize it the best hence they tend to charge at enemies.
@fleet fulcrum Ah, that could be what it is. you most likely be right.
fleet fulcrum
@mystic willow i would not use it on heroes that selfshield like lucius and also not on tasi... you ult and put them to sleep... and you have a shield that doesnt get used
somber hemlock
@median star how much dust u actually got and u can prob do it if u got nemora and replace tasi with her and put her in the middle and try to charm sav or nemora top with golus
mystic willow
I looks like whenever you use ultimate (active skill) you enable a shield that offsets damage (reflect damage back at enemies) which is x1.2 @fleet fulcrum @wise merlin
Meaning that for every 100 damage you receive you reflect 120 back at attacker
median star
@somber hemlock i have around 5500 dust atm
fleet fulcrum
Im not sure it reflects the damage, more that it absorbs it.
somber hemlock
@median star getting 141 sav can be power spike see if u can buy some tomorrow
wise merlin
@mystic willow It could be that; again, I'd rather not fill you with false information. ^^
delicate trout
@median star it's true dude, i passed it an hour ago, with 141 saveas
mystic willow
Ok thanks for your assistance @wise merlin 😃🙏
wise merlin
Glad I was able to assist. 😊 @mystic willow Best of luck throughout the game!
fleet fulcrum
Tomorrow my fawkes is going to L+ 👌
mystic willow
Thank you very much ☺️
delicate trout
But can someone help me too? Scroll up pleasee 11-24
median star
@somber hemlock hmmm probably need more than a day to level up my saveas to 141
@delicate trout what line up did u use?
somber hemlock
isnt it 500 dust in shop same with me iam at 11-20 XD cant help u bud
wise merlin
@delicate trout I'd prefer to not help players who play on a level much higher than mine, since I'm inexperienced.
delicate trout
@median star fawkes and arden for 11-16, belinda and raine for 11-20, i try to remember as hard as i could
delicate trout
@pale kettle may i see ur whole heroes sir?
fleet fulcrum
Keep trying, probably need some rng @pale kettle
pale kettle
delicate trout
@pale kettle try this,
Grezhul brutus saveas kaz and mirael
pale kettle
and which one should i level up
delicate trout
Since u don't have any cc, u need to make a made up cc, kaz can jump and grezhul can shield her up, so brutus can distracted, and let saveas do his job
pale kettle
which ones front line ?
i think the setup you suggested is bad
dont invest in 4.6% heroes this early if you're not p2w, just go for Saveas Hogan Mirael Ira &brutus. You'll replace brutus in a week or two if you're not lucky to ascend him
He will be nothing next to a L+ Saveas even at E+ (for ur question, frontile is hogan and brutus
okay so i just gotta wait until my heroes become stronger
delicate trout
I passed that stage with that kind of line up, but i use silvina, so i have double shield on her haha @pale kettle
@pale kettle top front grezhul, bot brut, but i suggest to follow bro skiz 1st
pale kettle
basically we suggested same setum, just without grezhul cos he is rare
you can also make a few switches ofc in the very near future, you're still very new, you'll get a shitload of gems. If it's your first 2 weeks make sure to buy the special storyline gem thing pack if you can!
the one you get 45k gems?
delicate trout
@pale kettle i use E grezhul untill ch-8 dude, i was kinda unlucky at 1st, i don't have any cc, but for him it wasn't that hard, because he still can reset anyone at will, you know, trial and error
pale kettle
ye ive only been playing for about 1,5 days so far
Yeah, it's by far the best investment, I only got that and the monthly subscriptions and i'm doing really well
yes thats also what i got
tho i feel like i dont get that many diamonds anymore
yeah in a few days all you'll do is log in for afk rewards
only like 1,5k-2k/day atm xdddddd
delicate trout
@pale kettle that's still so much dude, i only got like 800 a day
pale kettle
maybe attempt a tower fight or a boss in campaign and ofc also do the daily stuff 😄 btw gems eventually will be very rare, 1,5-2k daily is actually insane and it's only for first week
slim pier
What monsters should I be focusing on?
delicate trout
@pale kettle about 2k i supposed
rare raven
Any ideas for a comp? Should I feed vedan and silvina for legendary shemira?
torpid stirrup
Worth upgrading fawkes to L? Or keep the fodder for belinda/lucius?
pale kettle
@slim pier Arden Nemora Tasi in the back and Lucius + hogan in front, you have insane comp 😄 Eventually switch nemora or tasi for L+ saveas until lategame
delicate trout
Ahh 9-20, the one i'll always remember, lul, let arden and saveas do their job, just try to find their right position
@pale kettle dude, do you passed 11-24? If so please help me too haha
pale kettle
yeaaaah i was stuck in 9-20 until i spent money for monthly subs so i could ascend Saveas xD Now I am only 11-16 bro 😦 and it seems i need to afk for a few days to pass it 😛
delicate trout
Here's my line up
Trust me 11-16 and 11-20 is nothing to this, i don't see any hope at all
pale kettle
insane line up, nice! I use hogan saveas frontline and tasi nemora arden backline. I know its not ideal for saveas to tank but i cant do anything rn 😦
https://gyazo.com/009669c0f35424adaadfbb7577bf27f3 which hero should i lvl up next and to what lvl?
saveas 81 probably?
focus on Saveas, best f2p unit in the game to progress BY FAR
so reset brutus and get saveas to 81?
delicate trout
@pale kettle saveas start usefull when he reach 101 and more when 141, but he's all u had right now, so level him up, he's ur core damage maker
pale kettle
nuh it's fine, its better to make brutus 81 actually so your lvls are perfect now, just get saveas e+
ye he is already
okay ty 😃
rare raven
should i not care about the auras at all and just follow the tier lists for heroes?
delicate trout
@rare raven it deppend on what you need, sometime u need faction aura, sometime u just need a wombocombo
rare raven
i see, guess i will have to experiment a bit, thanks a lot 😃
wide field
@coral solar are you online
delicate trout
@cold aurora just ascend them 1st dude
gilded vine
I feel I could do a better lineup than this,but I don't know what should I adjust,any advices?
cold aurora
@delicate trout what's that
pale kettle
hogan dies so fast vs brutus lol
fleet fulcrum
@cold aurora think you can make L+ arden
delicate trout
@cold aurora fusion them i mean haha, but since we have a common heroes on what we got, here's my heroes for ur reference
cold aurora
is he good>
mint walrus
Fuck.
cold aurora
Ohhh combining them
fleet fulcrum
Yes, arden is the only legend tier hero thats stays usefull beyond his level cap (160)
pale kettle
is there anything after legendary+?
cold aurora
ok thank you
fleet fulcrum
@pale kettle Mythic >>. Mythic + >>> Ascended
pale kettle
coooool
vital ingot
Hey all! At the point where I nees to focus on team comp and not just levels. Any advice on these heroes?
mint hornet
Need help
fleet fulcrum
@vital ingot you could make shem Mythic 👀
vernal bone
Need help for lineup..now im stuck at 9-20 forever xD
vital ingot
@fleet fulcrum yeah but not without getting rid of Veden. And then I'd need a replacement
delicate trout
@vital ingot dayuum, L+ shem at that level, must be overpowered ur enemies easily
vital ingot
@delicate trout she definitely hold out longest but once the rest of the team goes she can only hold off max 2
delicate trout
@vital ingot u can fodder vedan to shem and use that athalia, believe me, next time that vedan isn't very good
And u have L khasos too, idk why you love vedan so much
fleet fulcrum
Vedan is not so good,,, not worth keeping around.. and it looks like you can get L arden or L+?? @vital ingot
vital ingot
@delicate trout so mythic shem, then Athalia or Khasos?
And
@fleet fulcrum I think I could get him L+
fleet fulcrum
Arden L+ is good specially at 141
delicate trout
Yup @vital ingot but don't fodder him untill u sure about it, if it works for ur line up right now, just use it untill it doesn't work
fleet fulcrum
@vital ingot M shemira at your level is really hogh though
vital ingot
@delicate trout it stopped working which is why i asked. I foddered him because otherwise id overthink it lol so I now have mythic shem. Need to pick my 5th hero now
fleet fulcrum
Did you L+ arden??
delicate trout
@vital ingot shem brutus lucius nemora and arden, and as a second carry u had athalia and khasos, u are luckies man i've ever seen on this game
fleet fulcrum
Im jelous...
vital ingot
I got most of them in my first 2 10 hero pulls actually it was insane. I appreciate all the help!
delicate trout
And legend them on that early, what a man, but i think u still need saveas tho,. Saveas is god on untill he's 161
But with that lineup i don't think u need him haha
fleet fulcrum
I dont have sav,, but i got thane wich is also a hard carry
delicate trout
@fleet fulcrum true, anyone has their lineup, if it's work then it's good
vital ingot
Haha I'll keep saveas in case I do
fleet temple
Hey guys 👋🏼 anyone have a good advice for me?
pale kettle
fleet temple
Can’t pass true 6-12 😅
pale kettle
Hit a wall any adv? 😌
delicate trout
@fleet temple try to put away saveas from brutus
@pale kettle same, but try to.find place for arden
fleet temple
Thanks for your Tipp but I don’t have a Brutus there 😅
alpine jay
Hey all
I'm needing to make decisions as to who best to level up in my mixed lot, or better yet, which lot to work on to enforce the best team from what I have here???
Please, any help would be appreciated.
delicate trout
@fleet temple i mean from enemies brutus
@alpine jay u need a tank, try to use that centaur dude and thoran, otherwise kaz and vedan isn't very usefull, use tasi
stark dragon
Stuck on 10-32
fleet temple
That’s how it looks like 😅
delicate trout
@fleet temple ahh they had no brutus, lul, i don't remember that stage because brutus is the main enemy at that chapter. Ok, top saveas, mid nemora, bot arden
@stark dragon level up ur saveas to 141, it will make a lot of difference and use lucius instead of shemira, and try to find a place for lucius to make he can shiled up before he died
fleet temple
@delicate trout ok no problem mate hehe, but I don’t have nemora for now
delicate trout
@fleet temple shemira i mean
fleet temple
Tried this combination. Didn’t work maybe I should get some lvls more but thanks for ur help
nimble summit
@stark dragon I Just beat 10-32 a couple seconds with this comp. Idk if it helps but it might give you Some new ideas as my overall lvls are lower
delicate trout
Look on who died first, try to repair that lane
If u see any hope just try again, and hope enemy doesn't get a critical hit haha @fleet temple
unique rivet
What should I make my lineup out of?
median star
can anyone help?
delicate trout
@median star use ur cc
@dense charm saveas ofc, and build 1 more tanks, for now u can use golus
urban trellis
Stuck on 8-32 any help is greatly appreciated
delicate trout
@unique rivet remove vedan and ankhira from your crystal resonance, put tasi and nemo right there
@urban trellis i don't remember the enemy on that stage my friend
urban trellis
@delicate trout here it is
unique rivet
@delicate trout so what do I do now?
delicate trout
@urban trellis make ur saveas aim for niru 1st, the more u let niru on battlefield the more hard to beat him
fallen olive
@urban trellis switch hogan to brutus, saveas with shemira and move thoran to front bottom
As gavin said priority is to make niru go poof
jaunty plaza
Any advise on 9-32?
delicate trout
@unique rivet dude, that supposed to be easy, put ur saveas on arden's line, and play that nemora instead of that bear dude
fallen olive
@jaunty plaza saveas thoran front shemira niru back replace hogan with mauler or graveborn
@unique rivet also you're not maxing your saves before leveling others
desert nimbus
urban trellis
Like this? Looks like Brutus is still too weak, getting rekt, might have to level him a bit.
fallen olive
@jaunty plaza saveas 141> others 121 in priority
desert nimbus
What hereos should I use? #I’m stuck
fallen olive
@desert nimbus make saveas lvl 120
delicate trout
@desert nimbus do you already unlocked the crystal of resonance?
desert nimbus
Yea I think so
fallen olive
@desert nimbus no crystal :I
desert nimbus
Idk what else to do
delicate trout
@delicate trout put arden hogan and sirius there
marble talon
Clyde, level Arden too, he'll be good throughout the whole game
desert nimbus
I havnt gotten an epic in 30 some cards
fallen olive
Go to town and put nemora and arden to crystal for free levels, try running 3 mauler 2 wilder with saveas as hypercarry
desert nimbus
Me @fallen olive
delicate trout
@desert nimbus use ur crystal dude
fallen olive
@urban trellis he and thoran are there to debuff and buy time for saveas and shemira. And the 3+2 bonus
marble talon
Anyone wanna help with the task of making 3 teams for guild wars and arena 2? Struggling with defence on them rn
desert nimbus
My crystal gets them to 96
desert nimbus
Wdym
marble talon
I believe he's talking to @urban trellis
slate mason
Thinking of trying out another mauler instead of hogan, but dont have brutus. Which one should I try?
fallen olive
@slate mason try getting your saveas to 140 instead
marble talon
And then to 160, and then wait for M shemira to replace Saveas
delicate trout
@slate mason yup saveas is the man for ur lineup, after he kills niru, he can easily kill isabelle and nemora, niru is the key of 9-32
urban trellis
@delicate trout Arden gets destroyed by Silvina
fallen olive
Saveas is average when he's equal level, when hes overleveled hes broken strong
slate mason
Reset the others to 101 and try 141 saveas? Or just wait. Im at 125 saveas, 121 estrilda and 120 all others atm
fallen olive
Reset to 101 and then saveas to 140 and others to 120 after. Same tactics gotten me here
desert nimbus
It won’t let me lvl up savius
delicate trout
@urban trellis of course he is, but can he root before he died?
fallen olive
@desert nimbus you gotta bring others up to certain treshold
marble talon
Is this just levels or have I not tried something obvious yet
desert nimbus
That’s dumb
tame moth
Im stuck what should i do? Plz help
fallen olive
@marble talon can you post rest of your heroes?
marble talon
delicate trout
It was suck dude, i want to help, but some people's not lucky to get lucius, he is the key of the earlygame
marble talon
Launch event + eggs got me to L lucius
delicate trout
@marble talon 11-?
delicate trout
@marble talon i beat 11-16 with this
fallen olive
@marble talon try around with arden lyca and nemora on different slots. Lyca can just die after giving haste
urban trellis
@delicate trout just barely, but still getting destroyed
marble talon
Seems it's literally just levels then ig. Tried all of them mid and nem top, not working.
fallen olive
@tame moth try saveas brutus front belinda khasos lucius back. Also try that replacing lucius with lyca
marble talon
Lucius ulting would help a lot
tame moth
Thx
delicate trout
@marble talon true, that stage is really hurt, that's why i put fawkes and arden, so i can make 3 heroes doesn't move haha
fallen olive
@marble talon brutus immortality and tasi sheanigans got me through that :/
unborn token
help. thankss
delicate trout
@urban trellis this is tough dude, very tough, but if you swap your shemira item with arden item, would arden power bigger than shemira? Because shemi maybe can hold that, and silvina's aiming the weakest mage
coral solar
Hi @wide field
fallen olive
@unborn token keep banging levels on the savess and run atleast 3 from same faction
tame moth
Well i beat it thanks
fallen olive
Great, killing niru early is the key
unborn token
ive tried that
urban trellis
@delicate trout no she is too far ahead
tame moth
So is that the luneup i should be using or?
coral solar
@unborn token show all your heroes
unborn token
i did
rugged marten
@unborn token try Nem out, Numisu in, if that doesn't help, you might just need levles
coral solar
Oh my bad lol
unborn token
okay thanksss.
delicate trout
Finally master @rugged marten came here, please help my guy @urban trellis master
coral solar
@rugged marten a master? Pffff lol
fallen olive
@unborn token swap nemorq to skreg and move skreg to front
rugged marten
@unborn token also I'd take Brutus and Lucius out of the pentagram, in favour of Hogan and Vedan/Vurk for now, those extra 20 levels for everyone will help
@marble talon try Lyca in place of Saveas, Lyca middle Sav bottom, lemme know how that goes
@urban trellis post your full heroes
marble talon
Whom top then?
coral solar
@rugged marten master help
fallen olive
@coral solar swap mirael to lyca
marble talon
Doubt saveas bot will work, lyca seems weak-ish here.
rugged marten
@coral solar try
Nem
Kaz
Lyca
Hogan
Sav
If that fails
Belinda
Estrilda/Lucius
Lyca
Hogan
Sav
@marble talon Lyca is used for her initial haste, not as a dps
coral solar
Alright thanks bud
wide field
How is it doing @coral solar
urban trellis
@rugged marten this is all I have
marble talon
I understand, but the added dps doesn't help with my team getting demolished in two seconds @rugged marten
blazing spade
Is Belinda doing okay in the front lines. It’s not where I would put her myself
fallen olive
@marble talon yeah without 3 faction bonus the haste buff wont cut it
rugged marten
@urban trellis I'd use Sav, Brutus, Hogan, Numisu, Belinda
coral solar
Are you stuck there @wide field
blazing spade
N/m
wide field
I just got here @coral solar and lost once about to move my formation around though
urban trellis
@rugged marten for 8-32?
coral solar
Oh, great bud keep it up ! Try get some new elites, it’ll help @wide field
wide field
I'm going to flip Hogan for thoran and switch lyca for ardens spot
rugged marten
@marble talon it's not just dps, it's faster ults on your team, id say you need to wait for 141 to use Arden then honestly, his roots will help a lot, then you can use Wilder trio and you'll be fine
@urban trellis yeah
marble talon
Arden 141 or M shem 161 is the question
blazing spade
Your point total is higher than the enemy point total. I kinda think you will eventually have it in the bag by just moving characters around and eventually getting lucky
rugged marten
@marble talon don't 161 Shem if you can't 141 your crystal
wide field
Yeah in a way I suffer because of the dps early elimination because my main dps character gets assainated
coral solar
Try protect it then @wide field
wide field
I might actually switch Arden with Hogan so Hogan can counter the teleport
marble talon
Why not though? Just getting the carry to pump levels in while I wait for dust for 141 crystal seems good.
coral solar
@rugged marten hogan gets demolish
rugged marten
@marble talon because Shem needs support from heroes like Arden and Brutus to really do work, and without 141, them 2 heroes are much, much weaker
wide field
Hogan is a semi tank
But thoran is a big boy xD you kill him and he comes back for more
delicate trout
Well, i need help right here... The enemy just had too much damage
urban trellis
@rugged marten numisu is not elite+ though
wide field
And he has damage mitigation with a redeal at the end
rugged marten
@coral solar get Hogan to L with Mirael and Angelo maybe? That might help, if not, unions maxed?
coral solar
@delicate trout whats the other lineup
rugged marten
@urban trellis you need him for his skills not stats
Carry and tanks need high stats, supports only need their skills
delicate trout
@coral solar i've posted it too
marble talon
I mean I don't even have brutus, and arden does work at 121 fine. While shem will help with bounty quests (so I can start mythic ones), lab, peaks etc
coral solar
@rugged marten I should waste mirael? Isn’t she good to have?
My bad @delicate trout
rugged marten
@coral solar she falls off quickly, you're pretty close to reaching the end of her use in campaign
coral solar
@delicate trout Lucius estrilda savaes belinda fawkes, try that
safe verge
What's the lineup for this lvl ? (I can upgrade Heroes)
rugged marten
@marble talon Arden 141 is an extra target on his root, which is almost game breaking, it buys your carries much more time than you might think
delicate trout
@coral solar already try it on every position, still f'up
wide field
@coral solar I beat it with this mix up
coral solar
Nice @wide field
delicate trout
This 11-34 is the next 9-20 my friend, tough AF
coral solar
@delicate trout thoran grezhul shemira Isabella farael
rugged marten
Anything below chapter 8 can be overcome with levels so no need to think of a team until that point, but worth getting into the habit of doing so
coral solar
Chapter7 is the easiest lol
stone lynx
is this hero any good?
rugged marten
He's great but hard to ascend so not ideal to use in campaign @stone lynx
coral solar
@safe verge upgrade estrilda and mirael put em in crystal if you can
fallen olive
@stone lynx kinda but not really. Very hard to ascend and too squishy to maintank
stone lynx
gotcha. ty
coral solar
@stone lynx I use it sometimes and he can be useful
fallen olive
Had some success with him on aoe team at pvp forcing enemy to clump up
stone lynx
should i switch out belinda for one of my top 5?
coral solar
Savaes
stone lynx
really?
fallen olive
@coral solar 
safe verge
@coral solar Is one of my upgraded Heroes useless ?
coral solar
@stone lynx use him@in crystal instead for extra lvls
delicate trout
@coral solar doesn't work at all dude, seems like i just need level up haha
rugged marten
Youre very close to being able to make Saveas E+ so not worth taking him out, you'll get him E+ before your others reach level 100 @stone lynx
fallen olive
@stone lynx no need, only matters when everybody is at 100
coral solar
Ira @safe verge
stone lynx
is it worth to take out arden for belinda? that way i get 4 light bearers
safe verge
Both or just one ?
coral solar
Why use rare ira when you have elite one @safe verge
fallen olive
@stone lynx yeah, belinda buffs saveas and you get better bonuses
rugged marten
@stone lynx that's what the resonating crystal is for, so you can use heroes without levelling them up
safe verge
Ok thanks for your help
rugged marten
Shove Belinda in crystal, that'll do fine
fading holly
Any help on 9-36?
coral solar
@fading holly what was your line up at 9-35
fallen olive
Yeah, belindas probably easiest ascended tier to L+ so great in crystal
stone lynx
@rugged marten then who would frontline with hogan?
rugged marten
Quick reminder, if you're stuck on a stage, don't forget to find people to max out your respective unions out with full Legendary+ tier heroes, so go find some if not there with your guilds and #mercenary
fading holly
Sav (leg) ogi (e+) brutus (e) Arden (e+) task (e+)
pulsar temple
Suggestions with what to do with my available heroes? Lots of ascension options. Team I've been using is Saveas, Arden, Lyca, Tasi, Lucius. At 13-20 in the campaign
rugged marten
@stone lynx I'd say Ezizh or Estrilda honestly, you have no other frontliners
pulsar temple
That or wait for RNGesus to bless me with the rares/elites I need
stone lynx
@rugged marten if i use estrilda do i take out raine or mirael?
fallen olive
"lf L+ vurk and numisu got L+ saveas 😅" consider leveling something like ankhira to L+ so youve got something less common to offer in return for unions
rugged marten
@stone lynx why not try a combination? You have unlimited tries at campaign
fallen olive
@rugged marten on that note people seem to not give enough tries, i've passed levels after couple hundred tries with same exact team. If you need for example 3 random target abilities to hit right targets and then get couple crits on certain target for win, it takes many many tries to get things right.
Have had level where i wiped about ten times and then passed with everyone alive
dense charm
I'm stucked at 5-40 atm, I tried to level Saveas, but thats all I can level It. I usually play Belinda, Arden, Fawkes (back), Hogan and Vedan (front). I tried to change Arden with Saveas, but doesnt work
shut marsh
Saveas, lucius, nemora, arden, tasi. is there any better line up for me?
fallen olive
@shut marsh if you run saveas you gotta have him be above your other heroes level, he's useless as low level since all he does is damage
shut marsh
okey i will do that. thats worth i think
i was using lyca but it seems she isnt that useful
after getting lucius my front became tanky so i can protect saveas
fallen olive
@shut marsh shes good for the haste buff she gives
shut marsh
but i lack of dps when i use lyca
fallen olive
If you run saveas hypercarry your other team will barely live to get their ults off, everythi g revolves around him pretty much. The reason hed so good is that his damage increases both with his dmg and his hp so when hes overleveled he kills enemies in couple hits
shut marsh
and i saw your nickname just now 😄 it explains a lot 😄
coral solar
Got 9-35 with this @rugged marten
fallen olive
It's kinda messed up gameplay but its also pretty challenging and close to optimal use of the levelups early to midgame
shut marsh
Alright. Thanks tho.
fallen olive
@shut marsh been running pretty much only saveas brutus nemora lyca tasi up to 11-38 myself, you only seem to miss brutus from that lineup
shut marsh
yah. less dps
wide field
Ok should I take one of these to elite or should I take niru to elite+
fallen olive
@rigid hamlet shemira for now
fallen olive
Saveas
wide field
Is he good ? At just elite
fallen olive
Best hero up from 61 to 160
wide field
What does he enable ?
rigid hamlet
@fallen olive thank you
wide field
And if I do level him who would I switch him with
fallen olive
Mirael
wide field
What that's my main dps
fallen olive
Saveas is
wide field
Ill try it I guess
fallen olive
But if you dont want to reset others ai till 61
wide field
My mirael is level 60 now
fallen olive
Saveas just suicides till he gets the regen ability at 61
wide field
But ok ill try it out worst case I just reset again
fallen olive
And saveas only truly shines when you throw all the xp at him untill he cant go further without leveling others
coral solar
@wide field savaes not the only solution, went to chapter 12 without using him
wide field
@coral solar can I dm you
coral solar
Sure
fallen olive
@coral solar true, but hes got by far the best return for investment
wide field
@coral solar I sent you the stuff
spiral geyser
I just got a Shemira, do you guys think I can replace Numisu in my backline with Shemira?
fallen olive
Some of the saveas hypercarry milestones from along the way
pale kettle
Suggestions?
fallen olive
@pale kettle niru needs to die asap
pale kettle
I can’t find a team that works @fallen olive
fallen olive
Can athalia knock him to your team before he heals from deaths?
pale kettle
No : /
fallen olive
Have you tried with nemora and tasi? Replacing brutus and athalia.
pale kettle
What order is that then?
coral solar
Hogan Lucius athalia nemora/tasi and belinda @pale kettle
fallen olive
Either nemora or tasi front, nemoeqs pretty tanky and tasi telepoets away. Also cc needs to hit right targets so youll get your ults running
south raptor
I see everybody is helping right now 'w'
I might come back later, so I don't interrupt.
pale kettle
Thank you sm! It worked
bleak gulch
i just wanna say hi and thanks for all the help 😃
coral solar
Np @pale kettle
south raptor
My question right now is... I go into reddit and the tears here. Saying certain chars are good and those things...
But.. some don't really match and so I'm confused.
Like... I would like to have Mirael in Epic, but I don't hear nothing about her. I'm thinking could work with Belianda?
Also I see many people talking bad about Hogan so idk if using him as Fodder is right or he's good...
Idk about what team composition could be good, or which ones I'm aiming or missing for a good team...
Yeah.. it's long. Also I'm aware I'm.. new too these compared to everybody.
flint cairn
Help
south raptor
coral solar
@south raptor reset mirael and silviana and focus on 5 no need to train every heroes
fallen olive
@flint cairn saveas 160 before others 140
coral solar
You could even reset ira and train thane @south raptor
south raptor
What does reset gives? Isn't starting over again?
I was considering Mirael + Belianda was a basic combo. Seems a was wrong.
slate mason
@fallen olive omg lol i tried for ages to beat 9-20, as soon as you told me to drop the others even further I beat it in 3 attempts
fallen olive
@slate mason works all the way to 160 😁
slate mason
Thats so rediculous lol
pale kettle
Struggling to find a team that can actually defeat this stage... 😢 Can I do it?
south raptor
@@coral solar
She's Rare+ rn, and I can make her Epic.
Was that, or making a 2nd Hogan Epic. Later on a 2nd Epic+...
So.. that should be the plan?
But is Hogan worth it?
fallen olive
@slate mason think youll breeze straight to chapter 10
coral solar
What I would do @south raptor is reset mirael ira and silviana, then lvl up thane belinda Lucius hogan estrilda to the same lvl
And continue this way until you’re stuck, tag me when you get stuck I’ll help you from there
fallen olive
@pale kettle the good ol reset others to 100 and push saveas to 140 should handle that
south raptor
Alright @coral solar . Thanks you.
coral solar
There’s no stress to ascend right away, keep going until you stuck
pale kettle
That's a thing @fallen olive ? I thought I was supposed to raise everyone together. Oh snap 😛
coral solar
Here’s my list of heroes I can ascend, I’m almost chapter 10 and only have one@legendary so there’s no stress @south raptor
ember nebula
And suggestions?
fallen olive
@pale kettle saveas is kinda busted since he has additional damage scaling from his max ho, ends up 2 shotting enemies with insane attack speed
ember nebula
Any*
slate mason
@pale kettle i just beat 9-20 a stage that i was stuck on for DAYS following IV' advice
sinful pelican
Anyone have any recommendations for 9-20? Been stuck for a couple days and not sure how to rearrange things to make it click
pale kettle
Sweet, thanks for the tips then, I'll spend some gems and give that a try. Many thanks @fallen olive @slate mason
fallen olive
@ember nebula should be safe to put saves to golus position and switch vedan to where saveas is and then golus to bottom
slate mason
This chat channel should be renamed to "level saveas to the absolute max first"
pale kettle
Your name's making a whole lot more sense right now 🤣 😄
coral solar
@sinful pelican this is what I used for 9-20
pale kettle
Do you guys enhance the regular epic gear you throw on non-main lineup heroes? Or just throw on whatever you can for them?
sinful pelican
Who do you think I should use instead of Lyca?
south raptor
@coral solar Understood... but I read and see that Tasi and Shamira. Both. Are very good.
I leave then alone, then?
ember nebula
@fallen olive i am getting raped even more that way >.>
coral solar
@south raptor shemira is good only later in the game tasi you can put in the crystal if u can and use it later
south raptor
@@coral solar What does.. putting her in the crystal means?
frank sedge
Any recommendations for this?
coral solar
@sinful pelican thane maybe or shemira
Try anyone until you get it lol @sinful pelican
sinful pelican
Fair enough, I’ll give that a shot. Thanks!
fallen olive
@ember nebula ahh yeah, try hide saveas behind thorans resurrect on bottom. If he can kill the rifle guy before he starts haste debuffing saveas you shouls be alright
deep needle
Any recommendation for 9-20 or do I just need to level up more?
coral solar
@deep needle look at my picture above try things around that