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pale kettle
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@rugged marten , any tips on the leveling/resetting aspect? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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and no shamira? NAAAANNII?

rugged marten
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@pale kettle pump everything you can into Saveas, put your 5 highest ascended heroes in the pentagram for the higher level cap, so Shemira and Thoran out, Belinda and Mirael/Hogan in

pale kettle
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srry, kinda confused about that. can you explain a little more?

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are you saying to reset shemira and thoran?

rugged marten
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Yes, their level cap is 100, Belinda's level cap is 120, Brutus needs to be reset too

heavy lark
pale kettle
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so reset brutus, shemira, and thoran. and then pump everything into saveas?

rugged marten
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Silvina out, make 3 LB on the team for the faction bonus @heavy lark

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@pale kettle yes, but you'll need a level 60 crystal to get him to 100 so you need to have at least that, put Brutus in the crystal, Shemira nad Thoran can be left alone for now though

blazing tulip
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Hey guys. I'm using estrilda, brutus, Belinda, fawkes, and tasi any tips?

pale kettle
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srry im just a little confused still lmao. so the team is saveas, belinda, lyca, khasos, brutus. then I reset brutus and get him to at least lvl 60 and reset shemira/thoran to pump more into saveas?

rugged marten
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Depends on their level, ascension level and enemy like up so can't really hp you with just that @blazing tulip

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@pale kettle okay, reset Brutus, Thoran and Shemira

Then upgrade Belinda, Hogan and Mirael to at least level 60, preferably 61 for the skill upgrade, then upgrade Saveas as much as you can, you'll need them to be level 80 to get him above level 100 though

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Level 61 is when Brutus unlocks his last grasp perk so definitely level 61 your crystal actually @pale kettle

pale kettle
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okay, but why are we leveling hogan and mirael? are you saying make my team Brutus, Belinda, Hogan, MIrael, and Lyca?

earnest mason
rugged marten
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Because Mirael, Hogan and Belinda have a level cap of 120 due to them being Elite+, you don't have to use the 5 heroes in your pentagram, the pentagram is only there to upgrade heroes above their current level cap @pale kettle

Do not do that, you'll regret it @earnest mason

earnest mason
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Anyone who isnโ€™t biased with mauler heroโ€™s?

runic hound
earnest mason
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Saveas just doesnโ€™t fit in my team and he doesnโ€™t do enough damage man. Heโ€™s good, but not better than what I got

blazing tulip
thin carbon
earnest mason
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Iโ€™ll give em the ol college try. Iโ€™m hitting up with levels right now

rugged marten
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@earnest mason I'm not biased to Mauler heroes, I just know who is good and who isn't, Saveas still has uses until you have a level 180 crystal actually...

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@runic hound Saveas, Hogan, Belinda, Lucius and Nemora possibly, you probably just need levels to beat it, it's a big power check for players and you need the dps to clear it

robust cave
rugged marten
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@robust caveArden and Nemora out, Saveas and Khasos in

timid condor
earnest mason
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Well I tried. He doesnโ€™t help =\

blazing tulip
rugged marten
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@timid condor ahh that one... Tasi out, Nemora in

Nem
Shem
Arden
Brutus
Lyca

You might need to 200 your Shemira before she can tank, best boots on Nemora to charm Arden before he can root too btw

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@blazing tulip take out Tasi and put in Lucius, you seem to be lacking damage though, who I would swap Estrilda out for someone like Saveas

blazing tulip
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What if I swap tasi and fareal and estrilda with lucius?

rugged marten
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Might work but Ferael is a very late game hero @blazing tulip

timid condor
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@rugged marten mythic +4 doesn't seem to be enough for Nemoria lol

blazing tulip
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How about IRA, raine, or vidan?

rugged marten
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You sure? Then try best boots on Arden and hope your Arden roots the enemy Arden out og his root @timid condor

timid condor
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That works, sort of ๐Ÿ˜› Thanks

rugged marten
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@blazing tulip Ira falls off quickly but works as a good dps to begin with, Similar story with Vedan, Raine is a buffer/debuffer focused hero, so she doesn't actually do much damage herself

blazing tulip
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So ferael would be my best bet?

stone lynx
rugged marten
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Mostly likely yes @blazing tulip

Get Nemora, then keep grabbigg Shemira until you have enough to get her to Ascended tier (8 copies) but keep in mind you get 1 Shemira from chapter 14 and 1 from the divine realm Peaks level @stone lynx

stone lynx
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@rugged marten do i replace nemora with someone else in my lineup?

blazing tulip
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I'm working on getting Nemora

rugged marten
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@stone lynx na, I'd recommend using Hogan, Estrilda, Lyca, Saveas and Mirael for now (swap Mirael out for Belinda after your 7 day login reward)

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@stone lynx it's always good to get that first Nemora so you have access to her with her charm and heals, that's why, she can be used early game, but I wouldn't say having her as a permanent team member until you use the Wilder trio is ideal though

deep pelican
rugged marten
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@deep pelican you got Arden?

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Ahh, no you don't... That makes things very complicated as you need his roots in a lot of stages

deep pelican
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Unfortunately I accidentally used him to get Nemora to ascendant ๐Ÿ˜ญ

rugged marten
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Not worth it, at all becuase he is so necessary to clear quite a lot of stages, but nevertheless, try

Nemora (best boots for faster charm)
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi

pale kettle
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alright, thank you @rugged marten !

deep pelican
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What would u recommend if Iโ€™m still stuck but had an Arden??

rugged marten
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You need a lot of RNG honestly, you'll need Nemora to charm Arden, and then Arden to root Kaz so that she doesn't tear your Shemira a new one @deep pelican

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I'd recommend Arden in the middle and Lyca bottom to try and essentially chain your cc as much to keep Shemira alive for as long as possible @deep pelican

I'm not very good at this tagging thing anymore it seems... ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

deep pelican
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Thank u so much @rugged marten ๐Ÿ˜‚

rugged marten
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Anytime @deep pelican

vital tulip
pale kettle
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@rugged marten oh yeah one last thing, the team you initially suggested stays the same right? im basically just using hogan and mirael as level slaves for the actual team yeah?

rugged marten
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@vital tulip what's the enemy line up? For a guess I'll just recommend, Saveas, Brutus, Lyca, Belinda and Numisu, if that fails swap Lyca out for Lucius (Lyca can go as a frontline becuase she is only used for her initial haste and energy gain)

vital tulip
rugged marten
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@pale kettle yep like for my heroes, I don't use Khasos and I only use Belinda in Guild boss, but becuase their level cap goes up to 240, I've upgraded them instead and chucked all my useful heroes with lower ascensions in the crystal

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@vital tulip that doesn't help much becuase I can't see the positions of the enemy heroes

vital tulip
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Assasin*

rugged marten
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@vital tulip I'd use Sav, Brutus, Belinda, Lucius and Numisu, put Brutus up top with Numisu above/behind him, Silvina will get stuck on him after she kills Numisu, then Belinda middle, Lucius bottom tank and Saveas very bottom

vital tulip
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Thx

stable vigil
rugged marten
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@vital tulip if Lucius takes too much aggro in the bottom, put Brutus bottom and flip the entire comp around, so Sav top with Lucius in front, Belinda middle and Brutus bottom with Numisu below/behind him

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@stable vigil you got Lyca, Nem and Arden?

unique igloo
stable vigil
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nope @rugged marten

rugged marten
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@stable vigil you got dust for 141 to help your Brutus out?

stable vigil
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see. im debating. buy 3k dust or save dust for heroes on lab

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if i buy dust i can 141 everyone

stone lynx
rugged marten
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Don't buy in lab store, it's not the best use of it @stable vigil

@unique igloo take Nemora, Tasi and Lucius out of your pentagram (reset them because their level caps are only 100) and put Raine Ira and Arden in (level caps 120) Saveas is definitely useable at your stage

stone lynx
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@rugged marten is this okay?

unique igloo
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Ah i see and what team would you recommend lys?

rugged marten
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@stone lynx looks okay for now

@unique igloo depends on the enemy line up as always but I'd recommend using Saveas, Nemora, Belinda, Hogan and Lucius (once you get Saveas to E+ use the Golus and Ankhira as food into him to get him L ASAP)

unique igloo
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okay so take out tasi for now

stone lynx
deep pelican
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@rugged marten I made an epic Arden and I completed it. Thank u again

rugged marten
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Awesome ๐Ÿ‘ keep hold of that Arden lol, you're gonna need him @deep pelican

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@stone lynx definitely get Hogan to E+ becuase he's your best tank for now

stone lynx
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what should i have as main 5?

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@rugged marten or anyone else

pale kettle
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@rugged marten holy crap, i love u. finally beat 6-28 with all ur reccomendations

rugged marten
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@stone lynx I'd say More or less top line, Thane instead of Shemira to make up the 3 faction bonus for your team, use Thane as frontline and overlevel Saveas, not Shemira

pale kettle
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I woiuld have been stuck for at least like 3 more days without ur help lmao, I LOVE U !!!!!!!

stone lynx
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when will shemira be good to use?

rugged marten
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@pale kettle haha anytime

@stone lynx once she is 161 and you have a level 141 resonating crystal

frosty nova
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Spider chick fucks me

rugged marten
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@frosty nova Shemira, Brutus, Wilder trio (Nem, Lyca and Arden), put Brutus vs Brutus, Nem as top, Lyca middle and Arden bottom, if Khasos interrupts his charms, swap Nem and Arden around, or put Lyca bottom with Nem top and Arden middle

frosty nova
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Will try

rugged marten
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@frosty nova what relics you unlocked?

frosty nova
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All

stone lynx
rugged marten
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@frosty nova call on Shem, eye on Brutus, Grace on Nem, Blade on Lyca and and Drape on Arden

frosty nova
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Ok

rugged marten
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@stone lynx looks okay until you can get a better frontline than Thane, but I'd say put Hogan in front of Saveas so Saveas can keep his health up for as long as possible

stone lynx
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okay awesome, thank you so much man

frosty nova
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@rugged marten ay itll need some time but it looks like I have a chance thanks man

brittle summit
rugged marten
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Good, the only issue with the Wilder trio, is how much damn rng goes into it ๐Ÿ˜‚ @frosty nova

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@brittle summit post your full heroes please

brittle summit
frosty nova
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@rugged marten yeah ikr...

rugged marten
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@brittle summit try

Sav
Hogan
Fawkes (if he traps a troublesome hero)
Brutus
Belinda

if Fawkes does not trap a troublesome hero, like Belinda, swap for Warek and tell me how it does

brittle summit
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Fawkes trapped Belinda using that lineup.

crisp thorn
rugged marten
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Okay so keep him in then, you might just need some levels to pass it @brittle summit

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@crisp thorn take Ira and Tasi out of your pentagram, their level caps are lower than Silvina and Belinda for now, better to have 5 L heroes in there than 3 and some elite etc.

crisp thorn
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What order should I have with silvina and belinda

rugged marten
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@crisp thorn no, you don't use them, you just use their level cap, don't let your 5 pentagram heroes be the ones you use, use the ones that are the most useful to your team, even when they might not be the highest ascended heroes

frosty nova
rugged marten
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@frosty nova I'd bottom row Arden to bide Shemira a little more time, try Drape on Shemira if she's getting melted too quickly, with Call on Nemora

pale kettle
rugged marten
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@pale kettle use Fawkes, joking ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Post your full heroes

pale kettle
manic salmon
rugged marten
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@pale kettle you definitely need to work on getting a Saveas up, also I'd reset Lucius and Shemira in place of Silvina and one of your E+ heroes, as for what to use currently, you don't seem to have much in terms of dps but I'd try

Mirael
Brutus
Belinda
Luciua
Saveas

manic salmon
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@rugged marten
I like the way you formatted that to show formation! Good idea!

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Am I just not used to it or did they up the slowmoad time to 30 sec from something lower not long ago?

rugged marten
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@manic salmon you wanna get that Brutus up honestly, but Wilder is a very safe bet, GB are mostly, if not all late game heroes and you LB looks fine for a while so I'd say personally between Brutus or wilders

manic salmon
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@rugged marten Best case I get 1 Brutua and that still only gets him to E+ (and shortly after L). I still have no Mythic tier heroes. Missing out on those bounties.

pale kettle
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@rugged marten I've have not been getting anything athore than greens lately I've been trying to get

rugged marten
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Having no mythics for the bounty board is a really pain but not really much you csn do about it unless you wanna whale like crazy to get a few Mythics for them, which I don't see the point in doing so @manic salmon

pale kettle
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The same type of hero as brutus

rugged marten
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@pale kettle I did the same at your stage pretty much, went all in on Maulers to get Brutus up and I feel like it was the right decision overall so I don't regret it, unfortunately no one can control their rng luck with summons so it's always luck of the draw

pale kettle
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@rugged marten what heros is lucia

rugged marten
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@pale kettle a mistyped Lucius I believe lol

pale kettle
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Bruh you told me to reset him and shemira

rugged marten
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Yes, because his level cap is 100 and so is your Shemira's, put them in the resonating crystal and put Silvina and one of your E+ heroes in your pentagram becuase they can go above level 100 @pale kettle

pale kettle
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I did that lol

rugged marten
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So what is the issue? ๐Ÿ˜… @pale kettle

pale kettle
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I don't have saveas

rugged marten
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@pale kettle you have him at Rare+, he can still do stuff at Rare+ but not anywhere near as good, also work on the union for Saveas to give him that little edge

pale kettle
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What should I do with my 120 ira

rugged marten
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@pale kettle leave her be, if she doesn't cut it anymore, she's irrelevant essentially unfortunately ๐Ÿ˜… it happens to all Legendary tier heroes at some point unfortunately

elder owl
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Any help for this stage?

rugged marten
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@elder owl put Belinda in for Warek and try

Khasos
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Saveas

elder owl
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Lucius dies before he can even get half energy lmao. Should I put my duras grace on saveas?

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I have it on Brutus currently.

rugged marten
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@elder owl yes, Saveas max health increases his, damage so definitely do it

elder owl
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The Vedan is soloing but Iโ€™ve gotten further than before lol. Ty, Iโ€™ll keep trying

rugged marten
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You need to try and kill Vedan before he ults, if not then try and focus your mains dps elsewhere

elder owl
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Did it ๐Ÿ˜€ he derped and went into his bats but only hovered around Brutus who was already immune lol. Ty so much

rugged marten
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Awesome ๐Ÿ‘ @elder owl

frosty nova
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community supporter aye

ember bane
rugged marten
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@ember bane try swapping Athalia for Belinda so she can buff Shemira, if she doesn't buff Shemira, swap both Shemira and Athalia out for Saveas and Belinda

plain pewter
rugged marten
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@plain pewter send the enemy line up please

plain pewter
rugged marten
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@plain pewter that's gonna be tough and you may need more levels but I'd recommend you drop Shemira and out in either Grezhul or Athalia

proud thunder
rugged marten
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@proud thunder drop Thoran and Shemira, put in Khasos and Saveas

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You might need more levels to deal with the enemy Saveas and Brutus though

proud thunder
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Asked someone for help 2 days ago and told me to replace Saveas as lvl100 instead of Shem but didn't help, I'll try that out though and if doesn't work I'll just go afk longer @rugged marten

rugged marten
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Saveas would be ideal as your highest level, but the enemy Saveas has huge damage and Brutus is a big issue too, which is why it might not have worked @proud thunder

pale rover
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@proud thunder You'll have to build Saveas up as much as you can, meaning ascensions as well. Good news is he's relatively easy to ascend so you'll eventually get there.

plain pewter
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The substitution you recommended, put either in the same slot Shemira is in?

rugged marten
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@plain pewter Saveas backline, Khasos frontline yes

proud thunder
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@rugged marten @@pale rover might be because my Saveas isn't ascended to + yet, I'll just wait til I get enough fodder to make it

ember bane
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@rugged marten battle runninv out of time and both team noone dieing

rugged marten
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@proud thunder definitely worth doing so

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@ember bane you might need to wait for a few more level then, get the dust to make Saveas 121 and that should tip it in your favour, you have 2 days to do lab so no rush

ember bane
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@rugged marten i want a wag to kill Lucius fast

pale rover
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@ember bane The only way to kill him fast is to focus your strongest dps on the line that has him.

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And.. it would help if they're Graveborn.

ivory swan
pale kettle
rugged marten
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@ivory swan Soren? You want someone who can distract, Grezhul with his minions, Warek with 2 ults and then left on manual Ult, Silvina or Golus can also work, then your main DPS, just self explanatory, Nemora helps a lot, same as Lucius for survivability and then buffera/debuggers to increase damage

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@pale kettle send your full hero line up please

pale kettle
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these are the only ones i level for the time being

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@rugged marten

ivory swan
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All I have is Silvina, Lucius and Nemora out of those hereos and Warek I need one more out of what I have

rugged marten
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@pale kettle Mirael isnt ideal for your team honestly, she falls off pretty quickly and Estrilda is a late game dps/support, and Shemira requires 161 to really be able to carry a team, always leave your options open because sometimes it's the strategies you might not think of that pass your stage

pale kettle
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who should i replace mirael with?

rugged marten
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@ivory swan well for your 5, I'd say to probably use Saveas, Khasos, Nemora, Silvina, Lucius, see how that does, if it doesn't do much damage, try swapping Khasos for Belinda or testing a variety of teams, it's always worth seeing who is better for you at any given time due to the fact everyone's teams are different

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@pale kettle I don't know because I can see 5 of your heroes ๐Ÿ˜…

tall mirage
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@ivory swan u can restart the game before the fight finish, save ur tickets for more trials belinda

pale kettle
ivory swan
tall mirage
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@rugged marten if euphoria couldnt control silvy well, savaes would def. back fire from backline merek_dio

rugged marten
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@pale kettle you wanna get that Saveas ascended up when you get the chance but honestly, I'd use him and Brutus over Shemira and Mirael, you definitely need to get a 141 crystal though which will probably be the main reason you're struggling to progress through

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@ivory swan no, Saveas is too precious

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@tall mirage that's why you manual on Soren, so Silvina doesn't make Soren turn back around

unborn token
rugged marten
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@unborn token take out Nemora, she's ruining your team faction bonus try Morvus instead of her

unborn token
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kay thanks for recommendation should i completely reset her? and level morvus using the reset? @rugged marten

ember bane
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@pale rover graveborn also not working ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

sage carbon
rugged marten
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@unborn token you should focus on having the 5 in your pentagram as your 5 highest ascended heroes due to their level cap being higher, doesn't necessarily mean you use them 5 though

unborn token
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mkay. thanks

sage carbon
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Someone help?

rugged marten
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@sage carbon try
Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Khaoss
Estrilda

See how that does

sage carbon
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I predict lucius one shoted

rugged marten
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Probably but you don't really have too many good frontliners currently @sage carbon

sage carbon
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Yep lucius one shoted.. Only killer one

static trellis
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I am using Saveas, Nemara, Arden, Lucius and Seirus as for now. Any improvements I can make?

ivory swan
sage carbon
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@rugged marten at least I have 9k diamonds and alot of things to get heros after patch

manic salmon
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@static trellis That is actually probably your best team at the moment. I am glad to see your Saveas overleveled. Reset Nem and Arden tho, pull serious out of crystal and level Lucius and then Serius to 81 first

rugged marten
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@sage carbon that'll help a bunch, sometimes it's just ascensions you need to progress

manic salmon
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@sage carbon Try Save up front luciu behind

rugged marten
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Sav will get destroyed up front

manic salmon
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@rugged marten Not in my experience

static trellis
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Wait so I reset them both so I can level only 1 character to 81?

manic salmon
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As long as he can live until Luc pops bubble he can tank a little bit. Bonus, Save wil ult faster too Being in front.

sage carbon
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@manic salmon lucius still died first and didn't kill anyone on their team

rugged marten
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That's, true for sure, but the aggro will also reduce his damage output @manic salmon

sage carbon
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I have a skreg elite it does not show on the print

manic salmon
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@sage carbon CC seems to be a friend in ch 11. Try using Arden+Tasi+Fawkes backline and Lucius Estrilda front. I know it sounds weird but I used that form to get through a cpl fights in 11.

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@rugged marten Not saying it's a staple strategy, but it's worked for me situationally a couple times. Alls I'm saying.

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@static trellis Level from 61 to 81 one at a time. If you can use levels from your support (arden/nemora) to make your tanks stronger do that.

rugged marten
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Oh yeah, everything is worth at least trying once or twice, in 20-58 I think, I swapped my entire lineup so Shem and Brutus were backline and Lyca Nemora were frontlining, and passed it first time @manic salmon

sage carbon
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@manic salmon they survived longer but didn't kill anyone..

pale kettle
manic salmon
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@sage carbon Who has which artifacts and what weapon does fawkes have? Did you switch the presumably better gear to him off of Save?

static trellis
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I just did that. Got him to 81

sweet sedge
pale kettle
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oh.. this is line up help.. woops ๐Ÿ˜…

manic salmon
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@sage carbon Dura'a Horn on Lucius to get him to ult faster, Eye probs on Estrilda, Grace on whomever is dieing first (conditionally, if they are getting their ult off, and not on lucius).

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@sweet sedge Swap in Arden for moar cc. Trade either Shem or Belinda whoever does less damage. Probs move lucius to top.

sage carbon
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@manic salmon should I give him the artifact to have energy faster? I had that on lucius

ivory swan
sage carbon
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@ivory swan I would say saveas.. I did that

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@ivory swan what chapter are u?

ivory swan
manic salmon
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@sage carbon energy faster artifact is Dura's horn and you do want that on Lucius

ivory swan
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I can't pass it with whatever I do

manic salmon
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@ivory swan Saveas was the right choice 100%

ivory swan
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It irritating xD last stage too lol

manic salmon
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@ivory swan what stage is that

ivory swan
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9-40

manic salmon
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I used that for 9-40 too. You could probs use Arden instead of Fawkes and idk instead of Estrilda. Can you post shot of all your heroes?

ivory swan
manic salmon
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Do you have the dust to make Save 141?

ivory swan
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I do, but not the hereos, he's only legend

manic salmon
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Ahh rip, right.

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Okay. Try:
Arden Nem Lyca Lucius Saveas

ivory swan
unborn token
ivory swan
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Honestly I should of been more variant with hereos

rugged marten
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@unborn token if Ogi is throwing Brutus into Saveas, out Sav up top so he doesn't get interrupted

unborn token
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i dont think thats the issue LOL. all of them just die before even using their skills

rugged marten
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Ahh, fair enough, then yeah, probably just exp @unborn token

fierce rover
rugged marten
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@fierce rover focus on Vedan, get Brutus from the backline

fierce rover
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Who should go to the back? Sav lives longer than hogan

manic salmon
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Probs trade Hogan for cc. Arden or Tasi.

fierce rover
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I wish not been lucky enough

manic salmon
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Who are the 3 wilders I see at the bottom?

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Is Lyca one?

rugged marten
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@fierce rover you wanna keep Saveas out of harms way for as long as possible

fierce rover
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another ogi kaz and aquaman @manic salmon

pale kettle
sage carbon
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Who does Silvina focus?

pale kettle
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Ferael

sage carbon
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Try swap the 2 bottom guys with the 2 on the top and if does not work take fereal out for arden

pale kettle
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Arden dies pretty quick too

sage carbon
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U have so many elite + and no legendary

ember bane
rugged marten
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@ember bane use that E+ Saveas, to upgrade your main to L+ ASAP

ember bane
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Not getting Mauled ๐Ÿ˜‘

winter flare
agile geyser
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Is thoran good

rugged marten
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@winter flare she's a good support hero

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@agile geyser he's a good late game tank

agile geyser
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Oh ok thanks

pale kettle
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My lineup is Lucius and Ezizh in front and Nemora Athalia and Belinda behind and I got Thane from the tavern which one is better in that lineup Athalia Thane or Ezizh only Belinda and Nemora are L others are E

ember bane
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@rugged marten which of the opponent are Healers

pale kettle
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@ember bane Lucius can heal

rugged marten
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@ember bane Khasos grants 10% life leech to everyone and Lucius has a single target heal

pale kettle
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Anyone help?

rugged marten
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@pale kettle pics tend to help a lot honestly ๐Ÿ˜…

pale kettle
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On it then haha

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@flaype#7558 waiting for another shemira

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Is Thane better than Athalia or Ezizh in that line up?

rugged marten
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I'd say it's worth try both, Thane is better once you can have crits on him, but always worth trying him instead, who does Silvina jump on?

pale kettle
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On the one that has the lowest defence (mage)

rugged marten
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@pale kettle I know, but I was asking who has the lower defence out of Belinda and Nemora

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Equipment makes a difference lol

pale kettle
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Oh sry xd Nemora @rugged marten

potent oar
rugged marten
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And would you say Belinda's attack buff is more useful to you than Nemora's charm and life force? If not, swap them and drop Belinda's defence @pale kettle

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@potent oar no, wait fro another legendary tier E+ first

potent oar
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๐Ÿ‘

pale kettle
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Well I can pass the stage I'm not stuck but I'm just wondering if I can get my lineup better by using Thane instead of Athalia or Ezizh cause I'm not swapping Belinda Lucius or Nemora for any reason and I can't wait for the next patch to finally try and get some heroes I want to ascend... But either way thanks for help @rugged marten

rugged marten
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@pale kettle ahh right okay, well Ezizh and Athalia are extremely difficult to ascend, which makes other heroes more viable than then, even if they aren't as good, due to the fact their (hypo/celestial) stats will always drop off much sooner than other heroes

sterile widget
rugged marten
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@sterile widget focus on getting a Saveas upgraded

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Once he's L+, get him 141 and you'll do well

sterile widget
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Waiting for wishlist to spend to hopefully get more brutus in the pulls

fierce rover
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@rugged marten well u got me from killing niru to killing all but 2 I think I just need to farm some gear or xp

rugged marten
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Sometimes, that's all you need, more exp to simy Brute force the level @fierce rover

fading gull
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Just starting out

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So not the best YET

rugged marten
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Alright

marble birch
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Take your time

fading gull
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Iโ€™m told Vedan is nice till 160 is this still holding up?

marble birch
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Very nicr

rugged marten
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@fading gull Vedan is pretty good, he can carry a team for sure but he will fall off pretty suddenly so always worth thinking ahead and checking out who is good for future reference

fading gull
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Iโ€™m led to believe heโ€™s good all the way through till 160

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And okay

rugged marten
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@fading gull more or less, I wouldn't say he is the best, but definitely up three in terms of eligible carries until above 160

fading gull
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Iโ€™m trying for a 3 2 team and vedan my current tank another grave born plus two wilders

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Just trying to figure out who to pick for the wilder 3 2 build

rugged marten
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Lyca, Arden, nemora are all great to have @fading gull

fading gull
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Thank you friend

rugged marten
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@frosty nova Nemora middle, you need to charm Ferael out of his, fear

frosty nova
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yeah he usually charms niru, i was thinking the same thing

rugged marten
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Ferael charm is a win condition, it really is lol which sucks, because RNG @frosty nova

frosty nova
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yep

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have to charm ferael and have enemy shem not silence my shem

rugged marten
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Yeah, get used to that as well becuase that exact line up pops up at least another 10 times between now and chapter 20 @frosty nova

frosty nova
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idk which is worse this one or the one where khasos is the boss and throws his axes once and one shots your team

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well he ended up charming him but my shem got silenced :/

rugged marten
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Yeah, itll take a good 30 tries or so to get that to not happen, you realistically want her to silence lyca, which is rare af @frosty nova

frosty nova
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mhmm

wind willow
rugged marten
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@wind willow EIzh out, Brutus in on bottom, Ira's bleed will make Shem struggle a lot, and Nemora instead of Tasi, up top

wind willow
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@rugged marten thanks !

distant pond
pale rover
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@distant pond Replace Belinda with Tasi, place at the bottom. Also level up the ones lagging behind.

queen sluice
pale rover
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@queen sluice Exchange the positions of Lucius and Brutus. Place Saveas at the bottom back behind Brutus.

queen sluice
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@pale rover by putting them bottom, lucius die too quickly

pale rover
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@queen sluice The problem is Lucius isn't particularly good in either front because he'll get focused by either Khasos and Saveas (top) or Niru (bottom) when Lightbearer is weak to Graveborn. Thoran would work better in that slot but he lacks ascensions. Try to exchange Lucius and Saveas' places?

errant lagoon
queen sluice
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@pale rover awh damn hahaha, still stuck.. i dont think i will pass this with these comp

pale rover
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@queen sluice With your current heroes, I'd recommend Thoran and Brutus in front, Arden Saveas and Shemira at the back. Given the right ascensions, levels and gear you really should be able to pass it.

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@errant lagoon Include your heroes.

ember bane
errant lagoon
pale rover
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@errant lagoon You'll need to ascend your heroes that are still at elite+. 121 is a big difference from 120. Lucius Skregg front, back is Arden/Nemora Saveas and Khasos (team bonus).

errant lagoon
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Oo would that be best for me plus I've got summons to do after update

pale rover
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If you use Nemora, place at the back parallel to Saveas so she charms him to attack his team.

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Before asking anything:

Kindly read the pinned post and ask in the proper format, if your question still isn't answered. Thanks.

trail cove
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Guys should I replaced my Elite + Raine with legendary nemora
My current load out is

Erilda lucuis
Sauvaus Raine Belinda
Currently stuck on 11 4

light elm
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I'd say so. Or arden

tranquil hill
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im gonna go with yes, because you still get 3 man bonus and nemora/lucius is pretty good

wary matrix
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<@&546913281135214593>

short merlin
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@pale rover

rugged marten
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@wary matrix once you have a 141 crystal is when you replace Sav for Shemira, as long as you can get her to 161 as well

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@wary matrix also take advantage of the faction bonus, aim for 3 LB or Mauler (I'd say Khasos would boost your team the most in place of Tasi)

wary matrix
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Thank you! Will give it a try

final lagoon
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Any suggestions?

rugged marten
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You don't have much good dps honeslty so will take some tiem to beat it

fallen knot
eternal apex
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@fallen knot You do probably need levels, and when you do you should try to get Lucius and Hogan over level 80 first, and then Belinda for the damage boost. You could also replace Estrilda with either Silvina (to target the mage early) or Saveas (best burst damage at your level)

rugged marten
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Khasos also complements Saveas with his passive life leech he provides

marble dome
fervent raven
rugged marten
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@marble dome first 3, Lucius and Belinda

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@fervent raven if you're struggling to pass stages due to ascension level caps, you can get Hogan to Legendary+ now, which means he can be used as food to get a LB mythic when you need them to, but Legendary Belinda is also helpful to get early on, leave Grezhul alone for now, he's good but not amazing early game, brtter against mage heavy comps

fervent raven
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I think ima get the belinda foe the long term ig

rugged marten
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As I stated before, if you get Hogan to Legendary+ now, you'll have his level cap of 160 for your pentagram and it takes a LB of the same faction at Legendary+ to get an Ascended tier to Mythic or mythic+ so it works either way honestly @fervent raven

rapid topaz
sick tulip
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I am not sure @rapid topaz, Belinda is also a good choice, you could play it safe and wait for an elite+ fodder or u can just risk it and get one of them leg but dont get Hogan leg

rapid topaz
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Oh ok, keep Belinda for now? She's not bad, but I don't use her

ember bane
viscid pine
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@ember bane You seem to be underleveled and the enemy team can do lots of damage to your backline

ember bane
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This labyrinth challenge @viscid pine

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I am at ending of 3rd floor

viscid pine
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I see, I don't think I can help you in passing labyrinth.

ember bane
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Should sacrifice 2nd row then go with 1st

elfin fox
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Poke them low and revive with the tear till they die?

ember bane
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I tried but his Lucius heal fast want advice to kill him 1st

main summit
crimson hinge
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I usually save Lucius until last

rugged marten
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@rapid topaz General rule of thumb, if a hero has 4 skills, don't use them to upgrade another hero ๐Ÿ‘

sick tulip
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Oh never mind i have completed chapter 13

rapid topaz
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Lol @rugged marten ok ty space

swift ledge
pale rover
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@swift ledge Top 5, Replace Numisu with Tasi and Khasos with Lucius/Skregg (team bonus).

unborn token
swift ledge
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Using Brutus, Saveas, Khasos Numisu and Skreg atm. I will try that as well as Iโ€™ve just forced everything through with Saveas and Brutus

velvet linden
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Tried it with a graveborn team and it still didn't do much

pale rover
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@unborn token Hogan up, Lucius bottom (front), Saveas Belinda Nemora (back). Work on getting Arden to elite/elite+, then replace Nemora with him.

half cloud
pale rover
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@velvet linden You're really underlevelled except for Saveas. That's mainly why. Lucius Grezhul front, Shemira Vedan and Arden at the back.

velvet linden
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Thanks for the heads up! Guess I'll give it a go, and grind a bit more

pale rover
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@half cloud Replace Khasos with Arden. You'll still get the minimum team bonus. Also, level.

unborn token
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i dont have a thoran? @pale rover

pale rover
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@unborn token Whoops, yes I edited it.

maiden marsh
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yep

unborn token
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do i not use brutus at all? @pale rover

half cloud
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@pale rover when i can put khasos in team? After iโ€™ll found saveas elite? Brutus/saveas/khasos/shemira/arden?

pale rover
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@unborn token You can if you want, but keep in mind that Mirael and Morvus will hit him that much harder.

unborn token
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i just pulled a numisu is that any good to use for this specific stage?

pale rover
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@half cloud If you want to go that route, you'll need to ensure Shemira can tank in front already. That means preferably hero level 161+.

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@unborn token Not particularly. He has limited uses.

half cloud
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Ok thanks

wind willow
blissful comet
pale rover
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@wind willow Brutus top, Shemira bottom front, Arden Lyca Tasi back. Also level at least your frontliners.

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@blissful comet Your top 5 is good for that stage.

blissful comet
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I get close but no win

wind willow
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@pale rover I canโ€™t level brutus ๐Ÿ˜ฆ not legendary+ yet. After shemira is 161 should I prioritize on getting everyone up to 160 or continue to shemira dump

pale rover
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@wind willow Shemira dump if you're using her as a frontliner by 161+ and get the rest to the minimum needed to level her, prioritizing the other tank first.

wind willow
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Got it thanks !

pale rover
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@blissful comet If you get close, that means you can finish it. Move them around, level them up, fix their gears. If you can ascend some, that would help too.

blissful comet
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Can someone help with formation I tried tanks on bottom and dps on top a d the best run was saveas v saveas but he wins

pale rover
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@blissful comet Tanks in front. That's the best formation I can give you already with your heroes.

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Keep in mind that 140-141 is a big boost because you unlock another skill.

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The team formation isn't your problem.

glass wigeon
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Can i beat 14-12 with any lineup, or do i have to afk more?

wind willow
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@glass wigeon uh perhaps too much melee ? Iโ€™m at 14-35 and Iโ€™m all 141 + 163 shemira

pale rover
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@glass wigeon You definitely need to level the rest of your heroes, at least the two tanks in front have to be at a good level to defend the backline properly. Brutus Lucius front, Fawkes Belinda and Khasos (3-2 team bonus)/Raine (4-1 team bonus) at the back. You don't have a Saveas?

glass wigeon
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I feed saveas to brutus at ch 12 ;)). No regrets tho, i use the formation in the pic to blast from 12-28 to 14-12 ;))). Guess i'll afk some more then.

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And i'll definitely get shem to 161+ next

plucky sphinx
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Damn nice. My team is too squishy atm.

harsh spoke
pale kettle
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swap saveas and brutus for anrde and ulmus and try

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although you have lvls in saveas so idk in that case

empty plinth
pale rover
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@harsh spoke Definitely you will need to ascend. You're starting to go up against mythic tier opponents while still using partial elite/elite+.

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@empty plinth You lack ascensions for your current heroes, as well. Also, underlevelled.

violet igloo
empty plinth
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I have bad luck in summons Iโ€™m waiting for the wishlist

pale rover
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@empty plinth You'll get there. For now I can't say that's doable just yet.

empty plinth
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ thanks anyway

pale rover
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@violet igloo Replace Athalia with Arden if you have him at a good ascension/level, Nemora if not. Place Nemora behind Brutus to charm Saveas/Ogi, keep retrying the level until it works.

violet igloo
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I lose +15% hp +15% atk

pale rover
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@violet igloo You'll lose the bonus, but if you charm Saveas/Ogi they'll work for you for a bit. That might help you to win. I prefer Arden.

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With Athalia, you don't have any legitimate aoe crowd control. Nemora at least has the heal aside from her charm. You can keep trying both comps and moving them around, though!

violet igloo
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I could ascend Arden to epic+ probably

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Athalia has her ult and she gives my team +15% hp and ATK ๐Ÿค”

rugged marten
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@violet igloo swap out Shemira for Belinda, put Saveas bottom

pale kettle
rotund girder
brittle summit
rugged marten
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Try Brutus and Saveas instead of Estrilda and Mirael @brittle summit

pale kettle
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Can anyone help me out here? Im stuck on this level (11-20) and on other in-game features.. cant pass 141 Tower either.. so i havent been able to play for 3 days.. recommendations will be highly appreciated..

So far I use.
Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Arden.

This formation doesnt work! Help!

north pike
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put saveas in front maybe?

pale kettle
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Tried that as well. But at the start im pretty much aoeโ€™d to death regardless of what formation i use

north pike
rugged marten
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@north pike that stage will require quite a lot of levels to beat

north pike
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i know, that's why i said i need a few weeks

pale kettle
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Can you offer me some advice please @rugged marten? โ˜บ๏ธ

brittle summit
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@rugged marten didn't work out for me.

rugged marten
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@pale kettle I'd recommend going

Belinda
Brutus
Estrilda
Lucius
Saveas

pale kettle
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Ohh ok then

rugged marten
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@brittle summit hmm you most likely need to just afk to get some resources to level up, I'd re ommend you put your 5 highest ascended heroes in the pentagram (heroes you level up) and the rest you intend on using in the resonating crystal, this is, done becuase heroes with higher ascension tier will have a higher level cap

dark tundra
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@pale kettle if u have Fawkes try it

pale kettle
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@dark tundra I do but hes only Elite

dark tundra
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So what I use him there and it's elite too Fawkes will hide mirael so Arden will root others too nd your saveas will will everyone

pale kettle
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So what formation would you suggest?

dark tundra
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And I suggest u build silvina there she's useful on 11

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Cant

winter shoal
upper path
warm badge
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Silvina 5hits my backline mages...

still oar
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@warm badge resonate Brutus max saveas.
Lyca Bru
Sav Arden nemora
Tell me how it went

warm badge
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@still oar sure

still oar
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@upper path
Golus Bru
Sav khasos faw

upper path
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lets try

daring crow
still oar
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@winter shoal may I see all of your heroes?

daring crow
upper path
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@still oar Fawkes holds off saveas for awhile but everyone dies in 20 seconds

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is it just wait for patch? what heroes should I put in wishlist

still oar
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@daring crow reset Shem and warekand max saveas.
Sav Hogan
Arden Bel faw

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@upper path prob wilders such as tasi nem and lyca
Mauler Bru and warek
Lb luc.

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Luc shem
Arden lyca nemora le tasi Is great team

upper path
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you have to put 5 in each faction in order for the thing to come up or what? nvm I go youtube

winter shoal
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@still oar Yes I send you this now

daring crow
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@still oar is it really worth it to reset shem? i thought she is supposed to be one of the strongest heros in the game, unfortunately i cant ascend her right now, but i hava some diamond and i will spend them tomorrow after patch and wishlist, should i look for her on my pushs?

winter shoal
ruby sleet
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Saveas is absolutely insane. much stronger than shem early game

still oar
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I am not sure actually. You shouldn't need to. I suppose it increases the chance. Such as if u put 1 in WL your your pool would be 1,1,2 instead of 1,2.

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@daring crow she will not she is for u

winter shoal
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What do you think about that ?

subtle pike
still oar
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@winter shoal reset mirael and max saveas if u could and try
Ogi niru
Hogan ferael sav

winter shoal
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ty โค

pale kettle
still oar
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@subtle pike replace shemira with fawk and tell me how it went

subtle pike
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Ok.

pale kettle
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@dark tundra Nah having no luck unfortunately

winter shoal
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I lost @still oar :V

still oar
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@winter shoal how high is your saveas?

winter shoal
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47

still oar
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Try to make him the highest

winter shoal
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And who can I reset ?

subtle pike
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I lost and both Athalia and Fawkes died.

still oar
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@winter shoal niru or fera have u unlocked resonating crystal?

winter shoal
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not yet

still oar
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@subtle pike isee.
Try
Luc ogi
Arden nem shem

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Can Luc tank and ult

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@winter shoal then try use those 3 heroes with saveas close to max
Hogan ogi

    • sav
      Put whomever for - to get faction bonus if u can
winter shoal
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3v5 ?

pale kettle
dark tundra
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@pale kettle try faction bonus

subtle pike
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Lost again.

still oar
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@winter shoal u can fill the two with whomever to get faction bonus. Like golus and ankhira

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@subtle pike can Shem ult before she died?

rugged marten
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@pale kettle try swapping out Arden and Shemira out for Belinda nad Lyca

subtle pike
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Shem didnt die. Time ran out. Ogi was the only one who did.

pale kettle
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@rugged marten I think swapping out shemira is a bad idea, Shem deals about 70% of my team's dmg

rugged marten
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She is also ruining your teams faction bonus, try swapping Arden out for just Belinda then and see if thag makes any impact

winter shoal
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@still oar I love you โค

still oar
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@subtle pike do you have the resources to level up three heroes to 101. All can see is that u need dps to kill vedan immediately. But I don't see anyone fits that description. Do you maybe have rare saveas?

winter shoal
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ty bro, I have to keep the same lineup ? @still oar

still oar
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Oh you did it @winter shoal
Congrats
๐Ÿ‘

cyan olive
subtle pike
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I have rare saveas. I can level Hogan, Angelo, Vurk, and Ira to 101 if i take them off the crystal.

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Hogan is already off the crystal.

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I also maxed out Lucius at 140.

still oar
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Maybe try that @subtle pike and put saveas in resonating crystal.
And try the last team, if failed try replace Shem with saveas. If it still failed pm me with your stage and heroes jus like u did.
Honestly i can't no longer follow with the others' posts in the way

subtle pike
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Ok.

warm badge
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@still oar sav and brutus ate them... Thanks ๐Ÿ˜

still oar
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Oh awesome

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๐Ÿ‘

proper hinge
arctic sage
proper hinge
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Any help with what should do.

warm badge
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@still oar Ok sav is broken pce of shit i climbed to rank19 arena with this formation, thanks ๐Ÿ˜‚

proper hinge
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@still oar could you help with my lineup

arctic sage
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could anyone plz help me with my lineup and tell me who is good and notโฌ†๏ธ

nocturne peak
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@arctic sage I would advise to combine some of your Rare copies I see you have, perhaps you can making something more out of that before fully helping and putting together a line up. For now you can try and run Hogan/Serius/Belinda/Ira/Arden for CC/Or Estril in Ardens place for more dps in the back, see you can build a Saveas and we can change this up again.

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@proper hinge Try to run Hogan/Lucious/Fawkes/Belinda/Estril in the back, if you need more CC , run Arden in place of Estril. I see your Savaes is also just elite, if you could build him. he'd be your carry 'till around 160 . You team can revolve around him for a while as well. Golus/Lucious(Hogan)/Fawkes/Belinda/Savaes would be the lineup if you chooce to run him instead, not sure how impactful he is only being elite. Also, this is building off of no formation so, I'd need that to be more optimal in making choices.

pine folio
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should i legendary tier warek or saveas?

nocturne peak
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Savaes for sure, make sure you don't use Ascended fodder though. @pine folio
@proper hinge
Try with what I gave you and go from there, it could also mean you're just behind on levels/gear. Read pinned messages for some useful information.

pine folio
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wym by ascended fodder? ;0

nocturne peak
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@pine folio If you could do Savaes, you could also take him straight to L + so long as you don't use his copy. And if you click on the right side tab of Heroes - .> Portraits. You'll see it say Ascended heroes, means those are the highest tiered units, below you'll see Legendary tier, those can only go up for 160+. You don't want to Fodder Ascended units or you'l be stuck.

devout basin
nocturne peak
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Lmao, that's exactly where I'm at. @devout basin

pine folio
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;000 thats smart! thank u. I prolly woulda ended up using other Elite+ saveas if u didnt say that lmao ๐Ÿ’š

devout basin
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this are my heroes. i can make belinda L+ but i don't think it will work

nocturne peak
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@devout basin Tbh, I'd use someone else besides Shem, she doesn't shine 'till after 161, so you could use someone in her place for now.

devout basin
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@nocturne peak so making belinda l+ and making her lvl 141 would be a good option?

nocturne peak
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So long as you're not using Ascended Fodder, Belinda is a good unit.

devout basin
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i can use angelo and mirael as food for her to L and then i've another belind e+ to make her L+. I'll try thx

nocturne peak
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Good luck ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I need one more Bel to make mine L+ as well.

devout basin
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should i keep using those 2 elites? tasi and lyca?

proper hinge
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Ok one more question @nocturne peak who should I ascend next

nocturne peak
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@devout basin Those 2 will always have their uses, I most cert wouldn't fodder if that's what you mean, if you mean by team, try switching thins around, you'd be surprised at what pulls it off.

devout basin
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@nocturne peak ok, thx, good luck in your stage too

nocturne peak
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@proper hinge As for Ascension , you might want to wait a bit longer on your options, you don't have anything that will make an impact now without Ascending any Ascended units, which is a no no.

@devout basin Thanks, feel free to come back , and we can try and work it out, remember, Levels might have something to do with it as well.

proper hinge
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Ok thanks and I got past that stage too btw been stuck there for 3 days lol

nocturne peak
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@proper hinge The one I helped ya with? Ayy, ๐Ÿ‘

proper hinge
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Yesss your a life saver cause it was starting too piss me off to the point I didn't want to play lmao

nocturne peak
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@proper hinge It happens don't worry, That's why we're here. ๐Ÿ˜‰ - Edit, you'll have days like that for sure.

proper hinge
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You'd da man like frfr.

nocturne peak
proper hinge
wise merlin
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@faint patrol You should definitely focus most of your resources on Belinda, not only because she's the highest tier hero available in the game, for me, personally, she's managed to clutch many situations on her own, plus, her level 161 is strong on an absurd level. Level her up until you can't any further

winter shoal
pale kettle
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@nocturne peak What part of pins should i revise?

nocturne peak
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@winter shoal We need stage information as well, please read pinned messages.

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@pale kettle All the information in pinned is useful, take a gander at it all.

winter shoal
dark egret
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@nocturne peak can you help me?

faint patrol
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@wise merlin Thank you, ill try to make the most of her.

nocturne peak
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I will help once I return from the store, brb.

wise merlin
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@dark egret A Fawkes would be a great addition in your current battle, in my opinion

fleet temple
fair ridge
wise merlin
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@fair ridge Yes. Go for it.

fair ridge
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@wise merlin sure, sorry โ˜บ

wise merlin
pale kettle
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Okay so ive read through most of the pins @nocturne peak

nocturne peak
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@pale kettle Post stage and Heroes if you're still stuck. - Reading pinned was just to give you a general idea of how units work in fights.

pale kettle
wise merlin
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Probably.

nocturne peak
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@pale kettle You could use more levels but try this, Brutus/Lucious/Fawkes/Belinda/Arden. Due to most being Elite though, you might have to level cap 'till you can get around with some Ascension boosts.

pale kettle
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Is it worth deleveling and maxing saveas? Or would that be inefficient?

nocturne peak
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@pale kettle Tbh you could try to crank Savaes up to Max and see how that goes for you. Take every to 121, and crank up Savaes, he mid-game carry after all.

pale kettle
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Alright ill try these ideas out first

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Yeah cant kill with that formation.. think having most Elites is whats killing me cos im pretty much dieing from aoes within the first couple of seconds

fleet temple
south herald
nocturne peak
south herald
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@fleet temple i suggest u start summoning tmr after the new patch

fleet temple
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Oh ok sorry @nocturne peak . When is the patch coming out? @south herald

nocturne peak
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@south herald You're out of my paygrade but let's see, I see your Savaes isn't 160, any reason for that? @still oar You past where he is ?

still oar
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?

nocturne peak
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@fleet temple Patch releases tomorrow.

@still oar
You past 12? Don't wanna give advice on somewhere I'm not yet.

south herald
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I dont really use Savaes i tried him for a bit it didnt work out

still oar
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Yes @nocturne peak. Why?

nocturne peak
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@still oar You have better insight for that stage than I. elethathink

still oar
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TBH I am not familiar with lb but let me try

nocturne peak
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Savaes really pulls his weight past the 141 skill. @south herald

heavy grail
south herald
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@nocturne peak i did level him to 141 but he dies quick cuz of aoe xd so i reseted him

still oar
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@south herald try resdistribute estrilda or Belinda to saveas make him your dps
Try lyca bru
Sav Arden nem.
You want to try to kill vedan as fast as possible.
Tell me how it went

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@south herald max him if u can.

frail trout
south herald
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@still oar they all got destroyed xd

still oar
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I am afraid maybe the level a lil bit low

south herald
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I guess ye im under-level aint i xd

nocturne peak
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@heavy grail First, wanna switch Hogan off Crystal and put Belinda there instead since she can level past 120. Put Hogan back on crystal. I'd use Hogan instead of Series up front as well, Probably use Belinda instead of Nemora.

pale kettle
south herald
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@pale kettle im no god at this but try using Brutus instead of the purple guy i forgot his name

nocturne peak
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@frail trout Try using Arden in place of Nemora.

still oar
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@pale kettle tank above flank from below

south herald
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What do you mean by flank just wondering xd im kinda dumb

nocturne peak
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You hold top side and dps the bottom while you work your way up the top.

pale kettle
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Better use brutus or ezizh?

nocturne peak
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Brutus, Ezizh is only good at +.

heavy grail
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@nocturne peak thanks, still got destroyed so i guess i need go wait for passive exp

nocturne peak
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@heavy grail Sometimes that's all it takes.

muted cairn
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I mainly just use Ezizh in Labyrinth to stop Shemira ult @pale kettle, he does have his uses

left ravine
tame moth
split oar
shy kindle
pale kettle
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Try this team: Front- Lucius Ogi
Behind: Belinda, Nemora, Fawkes, not promising anything, but for me this team wins everything

ripe skiff
still oar
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What's 9 20? Repost its ss and your heroes in 1 post please @ripe skiff

ripe skiff
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huh? 9-20 is my chapter

uneven parcel
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@ripe skiff put brutus in the crystal and have one of your other elite+ heroes in your main 5
Brutus will be able to go over the elite level threshhold as long as your main 5 is lvl 101

ripe skiff
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hm smart

still oar
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Yes the ss of it. U don't expect me to remember all stage so you? And repost it with ur heroes in 1 post please?

ripe skiff
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what does that even mean @still oar ur just being rude and unhelpful

nocturne peak
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Just posting heroes doesn't mean we know what stage you're on.

unique python
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What sol wants you to do is take a screenshot of the enemy team

still oar
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^

shell thorn
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@ripe skiff Show off your stage, he wants to see the enemies so he has a better perspective, so he can help you better

ripe skiff
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thank you for explaining didnt need to be rude at the second time after i asked u for explanation...

nocturne peak
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If you read pinned messages, it helps out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

unique python
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@shell thorn why are you not using shem

open mural
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shem is only L and isn't helpful yet

ripe skiff
unique python
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You could try using belinda instead of estrilda and maybe use estrilda instead of angelo

nocturne peak
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I had a feeling it was 9-20. idabella

shell thorn
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@unique python That's what I did, I only passed 11-40 cuz i switched to angelo instead of belinda, his ult + the heals (and the hidden haste), not many heals but helped, I feel like I haev too much dmg but no survivability

ripe skiff
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tottaly not in my name but ok @nocturne peak

nocturne peak
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@ripe skiff People don't always keep those updated, we can't just go by that.

ripe skiff
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guess so ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

still oar
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@ripe skiff reset Brutus and make everyone 101 or above if u can raise sav to 140 or 141 will be better. But try
Lyca bru
Arden khasos or nemora and overleveled saveas.
Next time please post stage and heroes as in one post.

ripe skiff
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iTs IN mY NaME i ThoGUht WE ewEnt ThROugH it aLrEadY

still oar
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Do you expect me to remember each stage lay out? @ripe skiff

unique python
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we can't just remember what enemies you face in 9-20

still oar
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Seriously

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Fu

nocturne peak
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

shell thorn
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This guy has room temperature IQ

ripe skiff
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i have a very cold temperature iq if u understand what i mean

unique python
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No need to start getting all salty, let's keep things civilized in here

nocturne peak
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Now now, let's leave it alone. We're not here to fuss about things. Isn't the place for it.

ripe skiff
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@still oar what does it mean lyca nad brutus in front line and what in back line

cloud wadi
#

Hey Iโ€™m also having some issues with stage 9-20 could I get some help?

nocturne peak
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Lyca and Brutus*

still oar
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Read again

ripe skiff
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now thats just toxic lol and also i dont have nemora

cloud wadi
nocturne peak
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@cloud wadi Heroes as well please. When slowmode allows.

cloud wadi
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Just sent hopefully every can see now ๐Ÿ˜‚

split oar
ripe skiff
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@cloud wadi ay same level stuck

cloud wadi
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Ya dude this one is hard

ripe skiff
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indeed

cloud wadi
stuck dust
unique python
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Saveas
Brutus
Nemora
Tasi
Athalia
Something like this? @split oar

split oar
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@unique python sec lemme try but not liking the idea of brutus and saveas lol i hate em

unique python
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@split oar well you better start getting used to them, they carry big time

split oar
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Every time i tried them they failed me hard

open mural
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@stuck dust 14-36?

lost oracle
open mural
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or 15-36? @stuck dust cause i was hardstuck on that level for a while too

stuck dust
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15-34

unique python
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@split oar sav has to be 120. Ignore that 121 comment, I'm an idiot

split oar
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F then no heroes to make him legendary

open mural
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oh damn yeah that one and then i walled at 15-36 again haha

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i used
Tasi
Shemira
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
and then prayed for RNG with golus and tasi teleport

stuck dust
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its fucking bullshit everytime i cc one another unit becomes the damage dealer

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ive tried that so many times ive been replaying for 2 hrs now

gilded fractal
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@lost oracle since youre so new, hogan/golus frontline and belinda/tasi/fawkes backline should work just fine. i dont know if tasi frontline could work quite yet, but if so you could try hogan/tasi and belinda/fawkes/ira (for a bit more dps) or arden (for cc)

open mural
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you need to put shemira at the top front and hope she doesn't get cocooned. I used athalia in some runs, I think even the one where i beat it.

split oar
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@unique python hard fail bruh... other ideas?

unique python
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Uhm...

stuck dust
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my tasi is fucking paper

lost oracle
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@gilded fractal thank you

open mural
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try again for RNG lol @split oar

stuck dust
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how the fuck

split oar
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I regret everything i ever said about Saveas LOL still failed but he actually killed 3 while before i couldnt get anyone to 75%hp

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Gotta make saveas L and hope for brutus copy or athalia

open mural
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@stuck dust just gotta pray for rng, give tasi duras call and shemira duras blade and pray

stuck dust
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i dont have blade yet and my tasi fucking teleports to the khasos every single fucking time and dies to his spinning axe

gilded fractal
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@lost oracle np :) keep in mind, hogan may fall off early mid game, as will ira. look out for good tanks like lucius or brutus. if you have bad luck, try to ascend hogan as much as u can. tasi will work as an off tank for quite a bit b/c of her teleport. ira will fall off as well, except for situational fights ie vs enemies that heal themselves like niru. focus on tasi, fawkes, then arden and saveas when you can. arden and saveas are both top tier of the legendary heroes, and the easiest to build. good luck!

stuck dust
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is her teleport even random its the same fcuking unit she tps to every time

gilded fractal
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ye

open mural
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oh damn maybe try doing viper's marsh, i think with your teams you could do it, and yeah they are random

uneven gate
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Iโ€™m not sure my heroes are strong enough but if anyone has ideas Iโ€™m willing to listen

gilded fractal
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keep trying, for me its randomly an enemy or ally

stuck dust
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she tped to golus but dies instantly lul

open mural
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yeah just gotta pray she tps behind someone useful like shem

stuck dust
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she just dies in 1 hit no matter what she tps to

open mural
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what did you switch her with?

stuck dust
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i just cleared it

open mural
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lmaoo nice with tasi shemira?

stuck dust
idle thorn
open mural
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@stuck dust this game is all numbers in the end, you do a stage 100 times and you lose, but you wake up one morning, pull the game out, say "fuck it why not" and you clear it

stuck dust
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lmao

idle thorn
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RNG, you miss one block one time and you hit it the next and you end up winning. Thatโ€™s all there is to it

open mural
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basically lol 15-36 took me day to do until my tasi decided she wanted to settle down behind my lyca instead of the enemy khasos

stuck dust
boreal geyser
stuck dust
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LOL my back 3 wilders just disappear

boreal geyser
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Saveas i see mentioned alot so asssume him already

stuck dust
#

feelsbad khasos on enemy team is just too op

open mural
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yeah that happens with mine too, i use athalia sometimes to disrupt

stuck dust
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this game forces u to afk so hard and i dont have athalia too lol

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every single time 1 spinning axe my whole backline disappears

open mural
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do you have arden lyca and tasi? cause with haste tasi can banish before the thing hits you

stuck dust
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yes ive been using it

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but right after the banish he does it anyway and my arden likes to root banished targets

split oar
open mural
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yeah mine did that too, i guess just keep trying for a good root, move arden around and pray, your team is a lot higher than mine was at the time.

crisp coral
open mural
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cry

crisp coral
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Just got Belinda, maybe I should try and make Lightbearer team with her hogan and Mirael?

open mural
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tbh lightbearer teams are pretty scarce, i would focus more graveborn mauler or graveborn wilder, just because of how strong the graveborns are right now

jagged olive
crisp coral
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@open mural So basically youre saying I have the best I can do? and rip me? lol

open mural
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lightbearer teams are playable lol but you need bigger hyper carrys and lucius at the minimum

wild snow
gilded fractal
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its possible that its lvls, u are quite under. id use arden instead of belinda unless belinda buffs sav (which i dont think she does, as sav has a much lower base atk than belinda) @wild snow

stuck dust
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@open mural i cant clear vipers first few stages easily what am i doing wrong lmao this shit is rigged

shy kindle
frigid portal
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Since you're going against primarily Lightbearers, I would recommend using more Graveborns.

shy kindle
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Why is that

frigid portal
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Graveborns deal more damage against Lightbearers

blissful comet
coral solar
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@blissful comet what chapters that

jagged olive
blissful comet
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11-38

coral solar
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Right I forgot what I used for that but took me a week to get through it lol

blissful comet
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I was thinking reset and get Belinda or sav to 160

coral solar
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Pretty sure I used belinda kaz nemora and either estrilda or fawkes

dense escarp
nocturne peak
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@dense escarp Post stage as well.

coral solar
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And Lucius, maybe try Lucius belinda estrilda mirael and fawkes @blissful comet

dense escarp
coral solar
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@dense escarp reeset ira and use estrilda instead

dense escarp
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hmm ty

coral solar
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And try get savaes atleast elite

wise merlin
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@dense escarp Also, put Nemora on the back, she's not a frontline hero.

dense escarp
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but the old man is not frontline hero also ๐Ÿค”
i try get estrilda in but i dont know if i have the equipment

wise merlin
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Swap with Estrilda, let her be frontline

dense escarp
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ty guys

jagged olive
wise merlin
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Can you use the Rickety Cart? if so, clock Ira there, reset her for 20 Gems, and level Estrilda back up @dense escarp

coral solar
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@jagged olive reset golus and lvl up belinda, golus savaes khasos lucius belinda

wise merlin
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@jagged olive Have you tried swapping Arden with Khasos? does he die immediately?

void rock
dense escarp
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haha i still get absolutely destroyed

jagged olive
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@wise merlin he doesnt die quickly since silvina is attacking belinda

wise merlin
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I won't lie, I'm stuck on that part as well, I wouldn't want to advise you in vain @jagged olive

dense escarp
wise merlin
#

I'm not doing so well on the ascension end myself.. ๐Ÿ˜…

void rock
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@dense escarp your Hogan is too low.

coral solar
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@dense escarp I donโ€™t think savaes is useful as rare, maybe golus would help more

blissful comet
jagged olive
coral solar
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Nice bro

fair sky
#

I've read the sticky posts, but my grezhul dies immediately if I use him.. do you think I have a chance against this team or do I need to lvl up some monsters? ๐Ÿ˜„

coral solar
#

Whatd you do @jagged olive

void rock
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@dense escarp Put 1 in top left.

coral solar
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@fair sky try focus on faction bonus, atm you have like none so Iโ€™d say lucius, hogan mirael savaes brutus

jagged olive
coral solar
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Nice one

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Soon youโ€™ll be stuck at 9-20 just like me @jagged olive

jagged olive
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@coral solar so true

somber hemlock
slate mason
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Have u tried hogan instead of lyca?

somber hemlock
#

nop

coral solar
#

Brutus infront of niru belinda instead of arden Hogan instead of lyca and if you have fawkes could be good too @somber hemlock

wild snow
#

@jagged olive how can you stuck at 8-32 with these heroes?

coral solar
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And khasos instead of nemora @somber hemlock

wild snow
somber hemlock
coral solar
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@somber hemlock reset Arden put savaes 141 lvl up rest equally

somber hemlock
#

my team will have 120 then tho i have no dust i have 800k hero xp

coral solar
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Cause savaes needs to be 141 for him to be stronger

somber hemlock
#

ye sparing up

coral solar
#

Itll help you a lot

slate mason
#

@wild snow how did u get past 8-32 with heroes so low? o.O Is lucius really that op? Ive used nearly the same team except hogan instead of lucius and silvana just obliterates belinda and then the rest of my team

edgy axle
#

I'd use raine over the harp dude. Her +25%damage buff is great

slate mason
#

Yeah ive tried that too :/

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I figured i just need more levels but apparently I need lucius

cloud wadi
open mural
#

Use Brutus over ogi first off and then maybe golus numisu? Over hogan Belinda for the 3-2 faction bonus

pale kettle
late depot
wise merlin
#

Still stuck at 8-32, I'll appreciate any sort of help, I don't have much to choose between, so all of the heroes you see down there are the heroes that aren't lvl 1-2, thanks in advance

late depot
heavy lark
sage sand
heavy lark
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@wise merlin get your levels up, use maulers instead of lightbearers, and make sure their equipment is good.

cloud wadi
#

Thanks @open mural

open mural
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Yw lol general rule of thumb is Brutus is one of the best Frontlines

mighty granite
heavy lark
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@sage sand use the majority of what you have under one faction, but wait until you hit level 30 before you start a concrete team.

open mural
#

@mighty granite get everyone past 121 for the skill

mighty granite
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Dont have the essence lol

heavy lark
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@sage sand also retire your green champions at the rickety cart and buy shards for characters you need

mighty granite
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Buying from shop though, any advice for my team though? Using top row

open mural
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Ah but you might as well keep arden up to legendary 120 over estrilda until you have it

mighty granite
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Ok, i put him in frontline?

open mural
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No you just use him to get the crystal up, but you don't have to use him

mighty granite
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Oh youre saying i put estrilda in the crystal?

open mural
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It's better to keep your highest ascension heroes as your main 5 investment and crystal everyone else

mighty granite
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Alright, thanks, guess i just need to afk then

open mural
#

Yeah haha

mighty granite
#

Or get luckier with pulls

late depot
#

Any suggestions?

warm badge
#

Infact i peeked rank 11 at one point

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But i have been stuck 8-40 for a loong time... I dont think i will be able to pass it anytime soon

summer axle
#

Oh just pass that

still oar
#

@late depot do you have the resources to upgrade every one to 101
You can try this for now
Save Bel
Luc khasos bru

heavy lark
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@late depot swap your lightbearers for maulers, otherwise your teams very weak in this area, itโ€™s majority graveborn. Get those level 100โ€™s up too.

still oar
#

Gz @warm badge

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๐Ÿ˜

mint walrus
#

FUCK YOU ALL DAMN DICKHEAD

wise merlin
#

^????????????

grizzled solar
#

Anyway I can beat 9-20?

ember bane
still oar
#

@ember bane lab or pot. May i see your relics and heroes?

molten lynx
lament ore
molten lynx
#

what route should i be taking because i dont get any good artifacts and by the time ir each an elite group im already low hp and i get fucking destroyed i beat the other 2 peaks of time super easily and this one is just so shit theres so many mandatory small fights

warm badge
lament ore
#

@molten lynx on the left where the old relecs are go there

warm badge
#

@still oar

ember bane
#

@solicitor bean (1-2 4 years)#3545 it's pot 3rd

still oar
#

Yes?

lament ore
still oar
#

How may I help u friend?

#

Oh secrets of Forest

lament ore
#

@molten lynx

ember bane
#

Ye many stuck same spot

lament ore
#

I am too I'm based on light bringers so I'm done for

unreal charm
#

yes hello 9-20 is FUCKIN BS

molten lynx
#

9-24 is significantly harder than 9-20

still oar
#

@molten lynx kill Angelo near the second Merc camp to stop the veins. Collect relics and kill friends of the Forest with wilder team to clear the bushes. You only need to kill the last one with wilder you can soften them first. GL

unreal charm
#

What.

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@molten lynx that's just fuckin ridiculous.
Why have something even harder, this is already mindnumbing.

I literally cannot progress and will have to AFK for about another half week or week at best.

ALSO this slowmode is dumb

ember bane
lament ore
#

@unreal charm put the spear dude in and take gun girl out

unreal charm
#

nice names...
Also I've tried that and it doesn't work as well.
Sav actually dies too quickly here somehow...

still oar
#

@ember bane you need strong relics if you are underleveled. Stop the veins first then you can collect the relics all u want

unreal charm
#

Oh nvm I haven't used him in conjunction with 140 belinda tho

lament ore
unreal charm
#

??

lament ore
#

I mean you have all lvl 120s so

unreal charm
#

Ughhhhh Nemora is the WORST to fight against

lament ore
#

You want to target reaper man and you should be fine

unreal charm
#

doesn't work. How do I do this

lament ore
#

You put him on top?

open mural
#

Get all your guys to 120 and get saveas up

wild snow
#

@slate mason yes lucius is op but i think my gear is better than yours too. You have more ascended heroes with higher level but my total team points are higher.

#

Sorry, answered a little late ๐Ÿ˜…

#

We talked about 8-32

weak scarab
wild snow
slate mason
#

@wild snow how is ur gear so good :(

#

Do you have legendary gear or something?

wild snow
#

Yes

wild snow
#

2 on sav and 3 on belinda

hoary kayak
#

Just looking for some opinions on team comp. Iโ€™ve picked up some new people since last time! Currently 6-20. Thanks!

lament ore
#

@unreal charm what are you at because I got past two bosses after that

unreal charm
#

9-20

wise merlin
#

Who are you facing? Wilders, or Lightbearers? @hoary kayak

lament ore
#

I'm at 9-29 now

unreal charm
lament ore
hoary kayak
lament ore
#

And you need the bounty hunter dude

unreal charm
#

????? CAN YOU USE NAMES

topaz wadi
hoary kayak
#

Just got athalia so was messing with her idk if good or not lol

still river
lament ore
#

I DONT KNOW NAMES

topaz wadi
#

Help please ?

still river
wise merlin
#

@hoary kayak Replace Belinda with Lyca, and add Silvina instead of Saveas; maybe 2 heroes to attack them from behind will be enough time for Belinda to shread horror at them.

flint prairie
warm badge
wise merlin
#

@flint prairie Can you show who you're fighting?

@warm badge I'd rather not give advices on a stage I didn't pass myself. sorry ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

flint prairie
wise merlin
#

@flint prairie Do you have the resonating crystal open yet? If so, place Estrilda, and Kaz in there.

flint prairie
#

yeah i do

wise merlin
#

After putting Estrilda and Kaz within it, show me the formation you've used @flint prairie

torn dawn
topaz wadi
#

@warm badge Brutus Lyca saveas celestial Arden

flint prairie
wise merlin
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@torn dawn Put Nemora in the middle, and raine on the top, the rest is A-okay

torn dawn
#

thanks, will do

wise merlin
#

@flint prairie Place Estrilda up against Golus, she can stun him faster than he does, and decrease his damage by a lot.
Keep Lucius where he is.
Keep Silvina where she is.
Switch Saveas with Kaz, see if it helps in any way. if not, try and level up Mirael to level 71 for better odds.

flint prairie
#

okay will give it a go ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wise merlin
#

Good luck! ^^

flint prairie
#

wait

halcyon hawk
#

Is that 12-36?

flint prairie
#

i dont have saveas

signal elm
#

11-36

warm badge
#

Celestial? @topaz wadi

halcyon hawk
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Ah yes, 11-36, stuck there as well. The problem I got with 11-36 is that my entire backline gets ripped apart really quickly, Lucius and Fawkes are the two that seems to last the longest but Serius really can't hold the line (which ofc doesn't matter much since the backline gets nuked down before that happens)

topaz wadi
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Athalia. I am so bad at names

craggy sparrow
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stuck at 7-32 what can i do?
not sure which champion to build up next and what kind of line up is smart

wise merlin
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@flint prairie I meant Vurk. my bad.

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@craggy sparrow I would say building up both Shemira and Belinda will benefit you, with more focus on Shemira as she's not within the resonating crystal, can you show who you're fighting at 7-32 please?

craggy sparrow
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sure

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Need one more Rare Ogi to actually be able to get Seirus or Lyca to Legend (Lyca even Legend+)

robust magnet
wise merlin
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It might be wise to replace Arden with Belinda, since they both are the same level, Belinda has more reliable sustain and damage provided, her level 81+ isn't half bad, you could try. @craggy sparrow

craggy sparrow
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The Vines actually stop the other belinda from exploding me here and then but its worth a shot ๐Ÿ˜„

wise merlin
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Shemira and Belinda can both melt their frontline if their ults are used in sync.

craggy sparrow
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seirus gets roasted very fast now, missing the triple wilder synergy

wise merlin
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You could use a more healthy tank, see if Ogi fits better

craggy sparrow
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the belinda explodes the frontline, ogi is not very helpful... Seirus is doing a good job but i need him to get to legend i think... hopefully they make a Union for him with the new Wilder Champ coming

wise merlin
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@craggy sparrow Try and switch Ogi with Brutus, and put Seirus and Brutus on the front line, back line as it was, maybe you'll pass it.

craggy sparrow
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yea im constantly letting them fight, if seirus or lyca time their ult right and interupt belinda i get quite close to winning

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i swtiched shemira out and put belinda in and i won

wise merlin
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Nice! Pretty shocked that you've put shemira out and won, considering she's one of the highest levelled heroes in your set

craggy sparrow
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but only epic and belinda is legend, if i get one more shemira i can go to legend with her, i got enough fodder epic+ in graveborn

wise merlin
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If I were you, I'd put Belinda out of the resonating crystal, pay to reset Arden, and level Belinda up, maybe put Arden in resonating crystal, so I won't be relying on levelling up all 5 heroes to a certain level for her to level up as well, but it's just a thing I would do.

craggy sparrow
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i will get an Ogi tomorrow and then Arden will be food for Seirus ^^

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but in general, do you think my standard lineup is working? I want to keep my 3 wilder bonus, switch out arden at a point for nemura but other than that id like to keep it like this with shemira or belinda in the mix

wise merlin
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Bet, Nemora, Shemira and Belinda will make an amazing backline, and you can keep 2 frontlines as Wilder, as for getting Ulmus, And Seirus.

craggy sparrow
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i do like lyca and i got 2 at elite+ ^^

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the haste is brutal, the little brutus is not elite+ and outdamages seirus ๐Ÿ˜„

wise merlin
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Lyca is good as well, though, you'll need to sub either Shemira or Belinda and you won't be able to use both unless you'd put one of them in frontline (which will most likely cause them to die)

craggy sparrow
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maybe i can make switcheroo with belinda and shemira depending on the enemy factions i face, vs Mauler i put Belinda and vs Lightborn i put Shemira

ancient meadow
wise merlin
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@craggy sparrow Sounds like a plan! ^^ good luck!

@ancient meadow Sorry, but I don't really give advices on stages I haven't passed, don't feel like I'd be useful in any way. ๐Ÿ˜…

pale kettle
craggy sparrow
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first i would switch Brutus possition with ogi , mauler do more dmg vs ogi and up u got 2 mauler on the other side @ancient meadow and down u got graveborn that are weak to wilder

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Have you tried switching Brutus and Hogan's places? also, Arden and Saveas's?

pale kettle
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Yup even tried saveas as tank lol

wise merlin
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Did you switch Nemora with Numisu? @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Nemora instantly dies

wise merlin
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Place her away from Estrilda, maybe then she won't die as quickly.

pale kettle
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Let me try

wise merlin
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Swap Arden out with Nemora, maybe it'll grant you some sustain.

pale kettle
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Brb

ancient meadow
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I have tryed 3 maulers/2 lightbringers comp killed most annoying niru by luck on 10-32 but lack cc as replace ogi/lyca/arden and arden kind of useless vs mage killer silvina but this comp lacks cc

halcyon hawk
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I give up on 11-36 for now. Tried every sensible combination I've got but bleh ๐Ÿ˜› Will try to get one or two of my heores to legenday+ and see if that helps. (posted my lineup further up).

ancient meadow
pale kettle
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@wise merlin negative. Its funny how im 1 E saveas away to make him L+ and 1 E arden away to make him L

wise merlin
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@pale kettle Do you have a Fawkes?

ancient meadow
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niru recover his hp after enemy saveas kills my khasos and i will try again after get brutus/saveas lv140

pale kettle
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Ye i do . He traps belinda

wise merlin
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Maybe fitting lucius somewhere in that matchup might help. obviously not against Estrilda as she completely ridicules him... But he's very helpful in this kind of mess @pale kettle Try and combine both Fawkes and Lucius in the line, Thane as well, he could provide alot of damage to Estrilda while Belinda is trapped for 7 seconds

rugged marten
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@ancient meadow take off Brutus's armour and get Silvina to dive on him as you have no mages on your team, hopefully that'll help, also you're only 2 levels shy of 141 for Saveas, which is huge, definitely work towards that

sturdy dune
ancient meadow
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@craggy sparrow @rugged marten thanks for advice and long way get lv141 for saveas 1536/6000 purple dusts

rugged marten
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@sturdy dune try swapping Tasi and Athalia out for Khasos and Belinda

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@ancient meadow that'll come in time, no need to worry, gives you time to plan your next move ๐Ÿ˜Š

sturdy dune
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@rugged marten tried but no luck, guess more afk for me, ty though

pale kettle
wise merlin
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Ay!! You're welcome bud! @pale kettle โค

pale kettle
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Literally stuck for like 2 days xd

wise merlin
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Glad I was able to help! ^^, Good luck further on! @pale kettle

timid cave
wise merlin
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I'd say swap places of Belinda and Nemora. Putting Belinda nearby a Vedan who will more likely roam mostly in her way is risky..