@indigo dove sorry to say I don’t think help is possible at this point
#lineup-help
upper path
He can still try to max level all of them??? At least xd. reset all heroes except for top 5 and you'll have better levels. The hero levels aren't in blue
Also what happened to your saveas? @indigo dove
slate mason
Fawkes or Estrilda? Ive been using angelo as a healer for saveas, gonna swap to the totem guy
upper path
@indigo dove did you pick up a lot of allies?
daring knot
Any assistance?
indigo dove
@upper path Yep
pine marsh
Having a hard time with this one any suggestions?
upper path
@indigo dove don't bother picking up allies from lab floor 1 and 2, no point. They will end up getting out leveled, and you can't upgrade them or change any of their attributes.
indigo dove
@upper path still idk if I would’ve been able to defeat this, still thanks for the advice
upper path
@indigo dove do you know you can reset fights if you see that you are losing?
steel kestrel
Hi everyone should i focus on she or saveas and should i sacrifice my niru and vedan for silvana to move on
pale rover
@steel kestrel That early on Shemira isn't the best in front, that will work only situationally. She can reliably frontline at 161 onwards. With that being said..
Grezhul Golus in front, Shemira Saveas and Arden (crowd control, no team bonus)/Khasos (life leech for the team, team bonus, no crowd control) at the back.
ember nebula
Help?
pale rover
@ember nebula Hero list?
steel kestrel
@pale rover tks man and btw in this time of the game should i focus on my she or saveas to be my main
mental forum
Shemira or nemora?
pale rover
@ember nebula Team is fine but level the units that are lagging behind and if you need crowd control replace Khasos with Nemora (Arden better, build him up).
@steel kestrel Saveas.
ember nebula
K
quaint merlin
@mental forum I say Shemira. I was using nemora for awhile but once I put shemira in i advanced from 9-20 to 9-40 so... try them both out though and see which will advance you the most
pale rover
@mental forum I'd go for Shemira. You can do Thoran Lucius in front, Saveas Shemira and Arden at the back. No team bonus, but it's a balanced team. If you pull more units you can come back to ask again to refine your team.
mental forum
Alright thanks
hoary kayak
Currently at 5-40 and I’m still learning the game just looking for tips with the heroes I have as far as a solid lineup! Thanks in advance!
timid stratus
What team comp do u guys recommend
pale rover
@hoary kayak For now you can do Brutus and Hogan in front, Saveas Khasos and Arden at the back for the minimum team bonus. Later build up Lyca because you'll need her if you want to build an all wilder backline, and Ferael (if you plan on using Shemira, they synergize well and he's a beast in late game).
@ivory swan With the units you have.. Vedan and Nemora/Saveas in front (who lives longer?) Lucius Arden and Silvina at the back. Tough one because your tanks are mostly if not all Lightbearers, which are weak to Graveborn.
@timid stratus Heroes?
ivory swan
@pale rover thank you, but Savaes an Nemora almost instantly died
pale rover
@ivory swan Try Lucius in front then, if he can get his skill off 1-2 times.
ivory swan
I honestly think I'mma have to wait
normal matrix
Stuck on 9-32
hoary kayak
@pale rover thanks I’ll give it a shot!
stray jungle
Ideally, how can I maximize my team? I have Brutus (L+) 141, Saveas (L+) 142, Lucius (M) 140, Athalia (E) 133, Fawkes (E) 133. I do have a Shemira (L) 133.. The rest really isn't that respectable., Arden (L), Belinda (L), Estrilda (L), Tasi (E), Khasos (E+), Numisu (E).
I could probably get Shemira to L+ soon but she doesn't really shine until 161 (which means I got to Mythic her first and that's gonna be like a month unless i get real lucky).
light elm
Ascend silvina so you can use her as shemira fodder later. And silvina is pretty useful early-mid game
boreal bane
Hmm okay
light elm
Also don't fodder grez or isabella
boreal bane
Yeah
stray jungle
@light elm help me on my line up please (scroll a bit up)
light elm
Do you need to make a team for some specific purpose or just a general team
timid stratus
@pale rover here
stray jungle
@light elm general team
light elm
Brutus saveas Fawkes lucius athalia/belinda/estrilda
Brutus saveas khasos areden tasi
Seems to be the best all purpose you have atm
stray jungle
ahh, ok. estrilda seems a bit weak atm. i only use her in guild run for the energy boost
should i consider investing in Wilders? Supposedly the best faction overall? or just keep focusing on my light/mauler and mini wilders team?
i just got 10 faction scrolls 😉
pale kettle
Hello, kinda stuck on this level, (9-36). It pretty much always ends up in a 1v1 between Shem and vedan but I still lose
Morning Gam4r, long time no talk
stray jungle
you have to gun vedan down asap (if u can)
Other problems I see is your lack of a faction bonus. granted that brutus, shemira (key carries) and lucius (best tank) are really good on its own. Try to use at least 3 of the same faction.
I would move Brutus up. Your arden will be eaten alive by Silvana. If you had a Tasi, you could replace Arden with her. but yeah, this stage was a pain in the ass.
Good luck
river finch
help please
trail dagger
open mural
maybe lucius estrilda fawkes arden ira for the first team and then brutus shemira silvina isabella tasi for the second?
left sierra
Need , help i been stuck at 9.24 for a while now
I dont know what to build now ???
trail dagger
@left sierra Lucius is really really good. Get him up to Legendary. Go for faction bonus
Beat my 9-24 with Lucius, Fawkes, Shemira, Brutus, and Estrilda
narrow sand
Best team I can use for labyrinth?
visual mist
@narrow sand Well, it depends on ur enemies too, use advantage of faction bonuses, faction vs. faction bonuses and union bonuses can help too... Lucius Brutus FL, Belinda, Khasos, Saveas BL imo. U will have 3+2 faction bonus for all and union bonuses for Lucius and Belinda also for Khasos and Brutus. Try to choose crit and attack rating relics to help your saveas and belinda deal tons of dmg, some defense to strenght heroes, - damage received too if possible. GL in labyrinth.
P.S.: Wish u another epic+ mauler asap to upgrade ur saveas to legendary, he is beast 😛
clear onyx
What would be a good team to have for 8-40? Is there any heroes i need to get rid of?
visual mist
@clear onyx Please, post your enemies too... ppl cant remember 1100 stages from game...
clear onyx
Here, sorry
long nexus
Stuck at 6-32, any thing I should change? First row is my lineup
stuck dust
ira's damage is super high send help pls ive tried my normal comp and this stalling comp
stuck dust
ye but how the fuck my khasos slower than arden
pale kettle
can someone advise plz
stuck dust
everytime i use arden againts a khasos his spinning axe always hits first tf
hollow furnace
Arden can cc so he prob is hitting your khasos alot
lyric shell
molten lynx
Should i get my first nemora or wait for shemira
lyric shell
Who should I be using?
molten lynx
The shemira will get mine to mythic+ but nemora will make me able to use lyca tasi nemora backline
hollow furnace
You have 6 days till next drop
I suggest wait those 6 days
Cause then after that you can get a nemora during the time while
Snot leg shemira shes op
pale kettle
who should i use to make shemera legendary?
hollow furnace
Us the veidans to do it
molten lynx
I mean anyone that isnt an ascended
pale kettle
okok
molten lynx
If you are planning on using vedan aa a frontline use the Nerus
pale kettle
do i need to reset my 120 vedan before using it as fodder?
molten lynx
No but i would personally keep the vedans and work on using something else as fodder vedan us really good
pale kettle
i dont use vedan lol
hollow furnace
Ascend the nirus for shemira then thats what im doing
molten lynx
You should, plus you have enough foddees to usee sylvina and neru as fodder
pale kettle
this is what i have haha
hollow furnace
I just leg grez now about to leg shem in a few days cauze the game gave me graveborn fodder for days
pale kettle
so how use vedan or niru?/
molten lynx
Shemira is op as shit
Use the nirus and silvinas as fodder since vedan is actually good to use
pale kettle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/579203140054941706/Screenshot_2019-05-18-15-06-19.png lol but i have these... how should i do it
molten lynx
@pale kettle if you leg+ vedan later on you can use him to make shemira into mythic
pale kettle
ok but for now what should i do? i wana leg shemera i dont have any legs..
molten lynx
Just use the nirus
hollow furnace
Turn the blues into purples
pale kettle
but i can only make x1 elite+ niru
hollow furnace
Vedans are graveborns also they can meld to make purple
pale kettle
lol someone told me to keep vedans T_T
hollow furnace
Yeah i know i was there
pale kettle
but i dont even use him tho
hollow furnace
You have blue vedans to use
Ok to explain
You have 8 common+ you can make the blue nirus to be elite +
You have 1 none niru elite that needs 1 more to be elite+
pale kettle
so which should i combine lol
dark tundra
hollow furnace
Of who to use to fodder use 2 blues to 1 niru to elite then ascend the niru to elite +
pale kettle
no... what i mean is niru + vedan + vedan or niru + niru + niru... thats what i dont get.
pale kettle
u get my question now right lol
hollow furnace
No i realized somethin else
dark tundra
I advice to take it slow to ascend anything if u can't make that hero to legendary+ .
hollow furnace
Use silvina vedan on niru to elite
pale kettle
ok done
dark tundra
And silvina is more useful than vedan or niru.. silvina carry till 14
hollow furnace
That too just be more patient and wait to grind
pale kettle
finnally my first legendary hero T_T
white raven
Do I go for Wilder or GB assuming I can do 4x faction pull + 3x tavern tokens & 14x normal pull?
final lagoon
What should be my formation?
light elm
@white raven I'd do wilders just because of fodders for more mythics. You already have a mythic grave so you don't miss out on the mythic quests with grave requirement
@final lagoon try lucius estrilda ira tasi arden
white raven
@light elm I just need 1 more nem & I can myth her. Could prolly get her in lab store. But assuming if I have a mythic in wilders, would u rec pulling GB or wilders? Or any others?
Am currently stuck at 14-20 too
mystic willow
What to focus on?
gilded fractal
@mystic willow working qith your units, try hogan/tasi frontline and nemora/ira(later replace with arden)/athalia backline. u can swap athalia and tasi if u need to ever snipe an enemy frontliner. when your saveas is higher lvl, replace athalia with him.
dapper frigate
Should I replace Tasi for Fawkes?
gilded fractal
@dapper frigate whats your main team? you shouldnt get rid of tasi tho
dapper frigate
My main team is the top line
gilded fractal
@dapper frigate nah i wouldnt. tasi is sorta a better fawkes in ccing.
mystic willow
@gilded fractal thanks again for your help. Will try that out now😄
dapper frigate
Thank you
pale kettle
Best formation with these ones?
pale kettle
Can I have any recommendations for 11-20 please?
fierce kayak
@molten lynx Sav is actually more op now. Shemira will be god after 161
@molten lynx but gratz to have Shemira leg+ at your level.
molten lynx
i actually have her ready to be mythic+ i just need to finish another leg+ graveborn
gleaming olive
errant lagoon
Is this my best lineup
lethal grotto
fervent coyote
no hogan, lucius down, lyca forward, add sav
light elm
@white raven gb if you can get nem to mythic. You already have lucius at myth, and he's the best hero for a non light team
wind trail
Who should I stick with during stage 6?
manic salmon
N00b, at the end of chapter 11 I'll be coming into 10 faction scrolls, and I cant decide who to spend them on. I can argue for literally all 4 factions >.<
light elm
Link a pic I can get back to you in 30 mins or so gtg atm
manic salmon
- Lightbringer: I would have the best chance of getting someone useful and getting a mythic finally.
- Mauler: Brutus
- Wilder: Tasi to E+/L would be nice, and so would a Lyca.
- Graveborn: Shem to L+ faster.
@light elm
versed forge
stuck here for over a week... all my heroes were around level 110 when I got there. now they're at their 120 cap and it's not going anywhere 🤔
my standard lineup is usually ogi lucius arden nemora shemira
was trying to get another DPS in to kill 1 before they ult but its still not enough. normally my tanks either die or almost die before lucius can shield or nemora can heal 😐
versed forge
sometimes on this fight my heroes just POP out of existence i dont even. i think its the graveborn spellcasting nerd whos doing it :/
harsh spoke
Any ideas for KT120? Had to reset a few things to get past 9-20
wicked lily
Im jealous of that legendary heros 😂
coral solar
@harsh spoke what set up did you use for 9-20
harsh spoke
@coral solar off the top of my head, brutus/lucius front, saveas/tasi/Arden back. Relied on good RNG
coral solar
Shit ok lol
coral solar
That’s 9-20 @tame tartan ? Let me know if you have get through it
tame tartan
Yes am stuck at 9-20
coral solar
@tame tartan reset you brutus and lvl up tasi so you won’t be capped at lvl 100
tame tartan
Ahh I didn't think of that, thanks 
white raven
@light elm thanks bro! Another thing, when do I feed my saveas to Brutus?
coral solar
@white raven where are you at in the game
white raven
@coral solar 14-20
coral solar
I heard savaes is good till c12
light elm
@white raven when you got 2-3 people who out dps him, because you need that many for the legend arena or whatever its called
fervent coyote
chapter 15 or 16, still useful for guild wars if you want to think about that
real carbon
hey, can someone help me with setting up team?
white raven
Man... so I needa get another saveas to L+ b4 I feed him away lol
coral solar
Sure @real carbon
real carbon
Thats my team, who should i use for campaign and whole PvE
uneven jacinth
brutus's a Solo Carry
coral solar
@real carbon it’ll be hard to get through the entire campaign with only one set up, you have to switch things up every time you’re stuck
real carbon
yea, i can swap back-end mid champ
uneven jacinth
@real carbon Brutus is a good carry, partner with golus upfront, nemora at the back plus a pair of dps
thin carbon
light elm
@manic salmon grave is a no, mauler is only for brutus fishing, which I don't recommend, seeing as you only have 1 copy.
In light you're looking for lucius or belinda or raine, but you need 3 raine and belinda for next level, and 4 lucius.
You dont have a lyca, who is amazing as elite, tasi/seirus can get to legend, and nemora copies are decent as well. I'd do wildwr
versed forge
9-20 is screwed up, stuck there for over a week... all my heroes are 120, cant go higher... dont have brutus/tasi/lyca/etc. might as well just uninstall 😐
real carbon
yea golus and brutus i tested it and they are op as front
nemora is must have for back team but who else from my set
coral solar
@real carbon as for now, you have a couple combinasions right now, Golus brutus in from and the rest you can choose what works for you
uneven jacinth
nemora and tasi are good at back but you need better dps
coral solar
@versed forge can’t you ascend?
light elm
@versed forge you'll get enough fodder for a few legends in a week or 2
real carbon
should i use 10 coils for light champions? in tavern so i may get any good mage
uneven jacinth
tasi plus nemora for synergy but you need to raise a good DPS, belinda will serve as good dps till 160+
light elm
@real carbon depends on what you have
real carbon
as he said, belinda is good so i have chances for her
versed forge
i have legendary lucius and shemira, but lucius still dies by the time the enemy team starts popping their ults and shemira is still too weak to even kill a single enemy before my tanks die and niru fks me up
uneven jacinth
but you choose your DPS base on the enemy
coral solar
@real carbon it’s random so yes you have a chance but a small one lol
uneven jacinth
why is Niru so OP when on the enemy team and sucks when I use him, lol
coral solar
Same @uneven jacinth lol
light elm
Everyone is op on enemy, the golus tanks more than my entire team
uneven jacinth
he's the toughest guys I fought, Saveas + Tasi get wreck at the end of my games against a single niru
versed forge
enemy team tends to be similar level to you, but normally like 2-3 tiers higher ascendancy...
real carbon
llol
uneven jacinth
yeah, but niru's skill seems to work differently when hes on the other side
real carbon
got belinda as i said XD my luck is op
uneven jacinth
belinda's one of my main DPS too, good luck
coral solar
Nice @real carbon that’ll help you a lot
real carbon
nemora + belinda + tasi / golus brutus its good?
uneven jacinth
sadly I got zero wilder DPS and I'm getting stuck at each boss battle in grave born area
anybody got a suggestion on a line up based on my heroes
velvet roost
How should I move forward? Most of the bottom elites were just summoned
I also am close to get nemora from lab, I've purchased shemira already
uneven jacinth
vedan, shemira and kingwhatchamacallhim, 2 good carry and 1 good tank
coral solar
@uneven jacinth I have 4 wilder and still not helping lol
uneven jacinth
you also stuck at 8?
coral solar
9-20 been stuck at 8 for weeks though
velvet roost
Yeap, 8-32 is a b of a stage
uneven jacinth
wait, are you saying graveborns are in 9 as well?
coral solar
Yes lol
uneven jacinth
oh my poor soul!
pale kettle
coral solar
Niru op af on this one lol
uneven jacinth
The only wilder I got is stupid seirus that can't activate his cc and tasi, and there's still grave born in the next level, dammit
coral solar
That’s great top 5 @pale kettle
pale kettle
Just started today and have no idea how to team build could someone just tell me who to level 💀
coral solar
What worked for me @pale kettle is lvling up equally
uneven jacinth
post your hero lost
pale kettle
Huh
uneven jacinth
for me, I got Saveas and Golus early, I focused on Saveas till glus cant tank the enemy
screenshot your hero list and post it here
coral solar
LOOk up
light elm
@pale kettle overlevel shemira she'll carry you till chap 5-6
coral solar
@pale kettle put Lucius #1 spot estrilda #2 and put thane #5
pale kettle
Should I Ascend Elstrida?
uneven jacinth
@pale kettle athalia is also good to control dps mages
coral solar
If you can and if you have enough fodders
light elm
@pale kettle I'd rather save the fodder to ascend lucius/belinda
pale kettle
Yeah, I'm conflicted
coral solar
Later ppl
pale kettle
Ty 👌
light elm
Estrilda isn't very good until much later
uneven jacinth
Elstrida's a fodder for me
zinc token
Please help
uneven jacinth
lucius's the OP tank, wait for a Elite plus Lucius and use Elstrida as fodder
pale kettle
OK, thanks
light elm
Nah don't use her as fodder she is really good later, but it's gonna be along time
@zinc token try saveas top, and burst niru. Get him to 121 ASAP
zinc token
Niru is good at 120+?
pale kettle
I already have 1 E lucius so just waiting on another
light elm
@zinc token saveas not niru
zinc token
What do you mean burst niru xD like kill him? .. also i cant 121 since not legend 
light elm
@zinc token you can legend him right now you know
And yea bursting means killing quickly
uneven jacinth
saveas will spear niru like no tom
place tasi opposit silvina, so that she can teleport put of silvina's attack latter
zinc token
Yea but i have to sacrifice golus and another saveas e+
and am using that golus as tank at the moment..
pale kettle
I managed to do a shit tonne today, so I was stuck on 10-36 for 5 days, managed to beat it, got to 11-19, beat 2 peaks of time, got 2 artifacts, took Bel and Sav to L+ and got a shit tonne legendary gear
light elm
@zinc token try lucius instead. You can use ogi for faction bonus too
zinc token
@light elm lucius gets squished like a marshmallow in that fight
warm badge
Halp pls
void rock
tame plaza
Sitting at stage 11-16. What would yall recommend I use?
upper path
Best chance at moving forward?
uneven jacinth
@zinc token, lucius is easily squeeshed because there's 3 grave born dps at the back, you lightbriger tank is but a paper to them
bitter sonnet
unique rivet
What do I do against this*
uneven jacinth
@unique rivet drop nemora, replace with harbinger,
harbinger will CC Saveas so that he can't attack, dont auto, sacrifice hogan to get brutus's immune early then Ulti with belinda
zinc token
@uneven jacinth exactly why i use mauler tank.. noober said try lucius and hence why i said hes ded in seconds in that round/chapter.
Also my saveas cant seems to burst niru....
uneven jacinth
@zinc token check your equip, I got stuck once because I forgot to enhance my equips, enchance your DPS or tank equips first
zinc token
My tank equip are mostly e/e+ with max engancement.. while saveas is on max or 2*
Scratch that, my saveas has full stars,
uneven jacinth
only ways out is to ascend so ething to legendary and level that guy up,
vague cove
Hello there, I'm currently stuck on 7-40, could anyone give me some ideas/tips?
pale kettle
Help me out here guys, I've been stuck for so damn long...
shemira ends up living till the end but not enough damage is being done to kill the enemies
I'm can't get threw this lvl now since 2 weeks and there is no hope I can get threw it. My team survive for 24 sec and it doesn't matter what I change on my positioning ore heroes nothing happens.
cloud fern
Hey! Is there a way to improve my team?
leaden olive
@pale kettle level all your legendarys and then put your main team on Crystal so they can go over level 100 if they currently can’t
Same for you anob
Also @pale kettle you want to use saveas instead of shemira & brutus is really strong as a tank use him over golus
pale kettle
My Brutus survive for 2 sek maybe just because of his passive shield. And shemira is my main dmg dealer without her I'm dealing 0 dmg
leaden olive
Saveas does more damage than shemira trust me. You should reset your nemora and Brutus level & level all your legendary hero’s and put the rest in Crystal
pale kettle
When I had good armor for him maybe but my afk rewards sucks and I get nothing good out of this.
leaden olive
Take whatever you can from others like thane or Silvina bc you’re not gonna use them anyway
But you really want to do the Crystal thing I’m talking about
pale kettle
I will try it but idk if this will work. Thank you
leaden olive
The Crystal thing is just good because your main team isn’t legendary and this way they can level past 100. I’m not saying you’ll necessarily pass the stage but this is a key thing anyhow
pale kettle
I'm just desperately after 2 weeks of nothing
unique rivet
Are you able to tell your heroes who to attack instead of them auto attacking?
reef flower
No, though you can control their ultimates as you're probably aware @unique rivet
errant lagoon
Should I get hogan legendary or do anything
reef flower
Get another E+ hero other than Hogan, and use it to make your L Hogan L+ @errant lagoon
errant lagoon
Wait if I wait for a different elite+ light ringer I can get him to legendart+
Yeah just realised ty @reef flower
reef flower
Perfect fodder if you can get Lucius to L+ too 😉
leaden olive
Anyone help for floor 120?
vale kraken
Athalia in vedan out
leaden olive
Yeah? Okay, will give that a go sec
reef flower
Switch places w/ that Saveas and Lucius
vale kraken
Also, make athalia karate nemora
leaden olive
Lucius gets destroyed if he isn’t in back line sadly and Saveas survives a lot longer but willl try all of this sec
15 secs and Brutus and Athalia is dead, Lucius is almost dead
vale kraken
U got the levels, ur probably undergeared
reef flower
Maybe try putting in Fawkes, see who he coffins
leaden olive
My mains are p good I think? Idk lmao
sage star
Hello, what team should I do ? Or, I have already the best team for me ? (Saveas Brutus Nemora Ira Arden)
shell thorn
What would be the most optimal position for this stage?
edgy axle
What would be your line-up?
reef flower
My current lineup is Lucius/Brutus/Shemira/Fawkes/Belinda, I see you have them all if you wanna try em out and see how it works for you @edgy axle
tawdry fern
Stuck at 12-12. Arden get OS and can't control enough so team just get depop too fast.
Any tips?
fading cipher
Am I able to pass 11-20?
severe pagoda
glad ridge
any ideas?
idle girder
@fading cipher I used double cc on these stages arden and nephora with lower levels than you.am stuck on 11-32
modest dagger
Good old 9-20, any lineup tips?
void rock
Need lineup help ASAP please!
somber prairie
pale kettle
patent flint
Just want to let everyone know, this combo is bad ass.
Athalia typically ults first, gives nemora time to ult, then Tasi ults. It’s so damn clutch
On 11-8 with this team & only 3 legendary items.
glossy holly
Would love to get some help
split oar
What should I use instead of brutus? He literally dies in first 6-7 seconds because or shield which fucks up my whole team
pale kettle
Who do you usually have on your line up?
pale kettle
ivory swan
What would be the best formation for 2nd guild boss?
split oar
@pale kettle just brutus is fking me up... The rest i dont planning on switching anytime soon since they carried me through the game easily without any effort put into them
pale kettle
Esterilda might work @split oar
split oar
@blissful comet why do u literally lvled up everyone instead of just getting belinda to 141 first lol
@pale kettle dies even faster lol
pale kettle
Shemira or athalia might work if they have good gear
pale kettle
It seems like the problem is you dont have a secoond tank thats accended
light elm
If you change brutus who's your tank 
pale kettle
I think the best bet is to wait till you can asscend brutus
fervent coyote
put tasi in front
split oar
Thane @light elm lol Had him on 3 accs and he was the best one tanking and tried every tank too and none could tank more than him
fervent coyote
I like it when my thane teleports into enemy backlines and gets oneshot by sav
blissful comet
I didnt even think about her getting 141 tbh
split oar
@fervent coyote never happened to me
light elm
Tanks are used to protect your dps. The last guy standing isn't your tank
split oar
When he tanks more than 75% of the dmg dealt and does most dmg in the team in pretty sure i want him frontline
fervent coyote
well it doesn't really matter where you put him he'll walk to where he wants to be
light elm
Sure but keep someone in front who actually prevents your backline from getting murdered. If you have nobody, use hogan
fervent coyote
tasi front thane back will distract enemy frontline sufficiently similar to a tank imo
split oar
Brutus lasts the most rn from all the tanks i got cuz of the shield... even my ira resists@more
light elm
If silvina jumps your tasi place her before brutus
fervent coyote
adjust gear so silv jumps nemora, she'll be able to 1v1
split oar
I passed that lvl easily i was asking only for a few opinions in case i might had someone better in my tab i didnt used
fervent coyote
ok there you go opinions
split oar
But in chapter 9 i struggle@with boss fights cuz of brutus while the lvl between are easy
toxic sigil
https://gyazo.com/c2139ca1f1f6ca6fa83b75739f70927b Stuck on 9-20 pls help me with formation
fervent coyote
@toxic sigil use full lb team it's very strong
toxic sigil
Out of everyone I have. I should use the lbs?
fervent coyote
yes remember to put the mages in front so they can ult faster
toxic sigil
Okay thx so much for the amazing advice 😃
light elm
Did you mean 19-20?
Ah it was a woosh
snow coyote
Worth ascending any heroes to L? I’m currently stuck on 9-20.
fervent coyote
😔
blissful comet
I literally havent killed the golus or estrilda once it's crazy
fervent coyote
least you have good heroes I had to beat it with pure grunt and shit heroes
light elm
@snow coyote I'd do silvina and saveas, you almost have enough fodder. A bit hesitant on belinda coz you don't have any more copies of her, but she's good too you can ascend her as well
hollow furnace
Silvina and saves only go to leg+ if leg leg the ascended class
light elm
Wat
still oar
snow coyote
@light elm So sac Nim and Golus? And Vedan and Niru?
hollow furnace
If you look into to it leg sure ther good but remember they only go up to legendary+ not ascended tier
snow coyote
My Silvina isn’t E+ though...
light elm
@snow coyote you'll get her soon enough, already have 2 blue copies
@hollow furnace at legend+, the blue heroes are usually the best. Saveas arden silvina are absolute beasts at legend+
hollow furnace
Yes i know hense why I said good but long term dont only focus them
hollow furnace
Lightbears to graveborns dont mix graveborn will win everytime
pale kettle
Switch to Wilders
blissful comet
I'm so fucking pissed off at this level
hollow furnace
So try and make a wilder team that will help
light elm
I'd ascend saveas and arden forever if the game allowed me to do it 😭
@pine marsh reset nemora to 130. Get saveas 140. Try using saveas warek nemora tasi and........ athalia maybe? You got no tanks bro
Maybe ulmus or ogi
pale kettle
Serius and warek?
pine marsh
I just went all wilder and got annihilated
light elm
Oh you got a seirus use him as the fifth guy didn't notice him
Well all wilders don't have dps
patent marsh
Need some help optimizing my lineup
hollow furnace
Moth level up that wilder team
split oar
@toxic sigil you have to be kidding me right? U have ascended and mythics bruh
hollow furnace
Kort he was joking
light elm
@patent marsh try saveas front with hogan/lucius if brutus does too quick. Nemora arden/tasi lyca back. Maybe lyca can be front too
split oar
@snow coyote Seirus and Lucius Front Belinda behind lucius nemora middle arden behind seirus
light elm
1 copy of nemora and then shemira forever
plucky tartan
@light elm Thank you! I wasn't sure if this was the right channel to post it or not which is why I deleted.
light elm
Levels. If you want to do it faster, replace belinda raine ulmus for saveas nemora brutus/warek
warm badge
Hmm okay
light elm
Saveas needs 121 though
warm badge
Okay, what is the call?
light elm
Light heroes will need higher levels. Saveas and Co. needs can do it a few levels lower
warm badge
Okay fair
verbal fjord
light elm
Can belinda take down niru before he heals?
toxic sigil
@split oar bro 9-20 is actually harder then u think. I have been stuck for days
split oar
Yhea sure
molten temple
Any tips for this one? Saveas two-shots both Hogan and Lucius
light elm
Can't help if your tanks die instantly. Don't think anything other than levels work in such cases
molten temple
Sometimes they don't die instantly but that rarely happens. Yeah, guess I need them levels then
fleet bobcat
Which heroes do you guys think I should focus on as my main 5? And who do you think I should take to 121 next?
light elm
I'd replace thoran with hogan, because he's legend. Level the most ascended heroes, not the best ones.
light elm
Overlevel brutus for now
stone lynx
who should i level up/how should my lineup be arraigned
light elm
Level up mirael for now and put her in the middle. When you get saveas purple level him instead
stone lynx
what about estrilda?
light elm
She's good later in the game but right now she's tissue
radiant shell
Any tips for line up I’m stock in 6-8 and I feel I should pass it
light elm
Link the stage too. Also there's a pinned msg
radiant shell
rugged marten
@radiant shell Shem can't frontline until she's around 161 so don't use her in the frontline until then
radiant shell
Ok , any other tip to pass this stages ?
light elm
Niru does nothing use silvina instead if you want grave heroes
glossy bane
Is it better to put Fawkes instead of Arden for the 3-2 bonus
light elm
Do t reset right now, you're close to unlocking the crystal. Put Fawkes in there and find out
glossy bane
I already have the crystal unlocked?
light elm
Put him there and check who's better then
stray ore
idle thorn
Any ideas?
glossy bane
Yeah Fawkes seems better than Arden
idle thorn
Arden and fawkes are used differently in many scenarios, I use both quite often
rugged folio
@idle thorn I did it with
Tasi Brutus
Arden
Saveas Lyca
160 saveas 141 arden and 140 rest.
opaque dragon
idle thorn
You must have a lot higher levels than me @rugged folio
glossy bane
@opaque dragon From what I've heard, you should just powerlevel Saveas. That's how I got through that, my Saveas was like 20 levels ahead. Also apparently Shem isn't that good early on
rugged folio
@idle thorn i dont even have mythics
idle thorn
I’m getting wiped man.
rugged folio
tried it like 100 times but finally got the rng
toxic sigil
@opaque dragon I would just quit if I were you
glossy bane
Mannnn I want a Tasi
boreal epoch
Hello should i make arden or tasi legendary?
past ermine
How does this lineup stack up
Just wondering cause I know I need to keep leveling them
latent robin
Really need help right now
eternal vortex
grim hatch
Any tips I’ve been stuck for 1-2 days
waxen zenith
How do you enhance your gear?
fierce kayak
@harsh sail erm... U shouldn't ascend kaoso and ferel I feel. But just to share: I use L+ Arden L saeves L Lucius E+ Brutus E nimusu to mostly clear chap 9. Sav around lvl 130 to 140, Lucius 121, rest 120
left ravine
What card should i pick for a new Elite?
harsh sail
@fierce kayak I can't ascend what I don't get and he was probably my first Ascension, then Belinda or Ferel. I don't use ferel much at all.. In fact he was level 1 for a while until I wanted to have something over 120
My favorite team includes khasos, saveas, and Brutus, with skreg tanking. Sometimes I don't use Brutus though just cuz he's so easy to melt down ATM. Saveas needs a good life leecher from what I've seen and as you can see, khasos is pretty much it.. Especially since his buff stays even after death
@left ravine might be a good idea to post current squad.. Though I can't help either way
left ravine
@harsh sail My current squad is everyone above
harsh sail
Oh i missed it, I'm sorry @left ravine
void rock
Any ideas?
harsh sail
I like skreg a lot for tanking. Not sure about that level but I'd throw him front top, then shemira, idk his name but the other Mauler, Arden, Ira @void rock
Just my pretty worthless 2 cents
@left ravine Verdan is pretty op if you can get him high enough
Personally I'd probably pick graveborn to try for a tank for the others you have and get a bigger buff or maybe another Verdan
But I'm not good, so maybe wait for someone more knowledgeable 😂
left ravine
@harsh sail Owh dang it o-o i chose for the Maulers, but i got Brutus out of it / 😶
harsh sail
Lots like Brutus. I think he's OK but probably not worth much until later IMO
void rock
Skreg died immidiately... @harsh sail 
harsh sail
Yeah, I imagine Kaz tore him apart.. She's terrible @void rock
void rock
Yep 
harsh sail
She rips through everyone I have too 😕
void rock
Another question (I know this isn't in #classic-questions) Do you know a possible way to progress quicker, get heroes etc, without spending money? @harsh sail
candid bone
lookin for a team I can make, any help?
harsh sail
I know the daily quests help but I'm not really sure @void rock
Maulers should be helpful there @candid bone
Brutus and khasos in back row with saveas back there as well and put him where you want people to die first. Khasos' leech buff fuels saveas pretty good
candid bone
Ok
void rock
Thanks for the help! @harsh sail
harsh sail
Swap out Brutus for Athalia for back row quick damage and you keep the 5 Mauler buff too @candid bone
harsh sail
In front swap around the buff dude (Warek?) and Golus as needed. Khasos tends to do well mid back with saveas top/bottom and Brutus in the remaining back spot. He's ok at times in front but he doesn't seem to take a beating like the other two I mentioned up front
Although Brutus does bubble instead of dying so he buys some time.. I'd play with it
candid bone
Ok you got it. Rn im vsing 8-28 and have no clue whats the best lineup here
rugged marten
@candid bone post your heroes
Nvm just seen your heroes above
harsh sail
Yay knowledgeable people! @rugged marten saves the day 😂
candid bone
rugged marten
Id say try Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, golus/Warek and Belinda
glossy holly
Stuck at this, anything can be done or it's waiting game
rugged marten
@glossy holly try Belinda, Hogan, Estrilda, Lyca and Saveas
If Ira is doing decent damage use her instead of Saveas
candid bone
I screwed up during my early game so I have rlly bad items and heroes because id spam single summons (impatience lol) and I'd spam enhance all my items away but I am just hopin for better ascensions rn
rugged marten
Don't enhance items @candid bone
candid bone
Ok
Also anyone know how to do secrets of the forest?
rugged marten
@candid bone #550491326479728650 type.potguide
@harsh sail try and see how Khasos, Saveas, Brutus, Lyca and either Numisu or Athalia does (Numisu and Athalia just for the faction bonus mostly)
Numisu behind Brutus or take off Brutus's armour if you're using Athalia and Silvina will just straight onto him (should anyway) @harsh sail
And if Silvina jumps straight onto Brutus, you can try either taking her down with Sav, or focus on Vedan first
harsh sail
Screw Silvina, Kaz is melting @rugged marten 😭
Still working on it but I got down to just Verdan.. That's promising lol
rugged marten
That's promising for sure, definitely keep trying for that rng
rugged marten
@signal bolt swap Silvina for Saveas and Tasi for Lyca
Also put your highest ascended heroes in the pentagram, currently your level cap is 100 due to Thane and Tasi, so reset them and put Mirael and Saveas in there for now
signal bolt
Okay I'll try it, bout to make Saveas throw like an Olympic gold medalist
gilded fractal
any help?
split junco
which better to pick
pale kettle
Lb
toxic sigil
Wilder
pale kettle
Hard stuck here, help
toxic sigil
Tell us who u get @split junco
split junco
well no idea which one to pick
rugged marten
@split junco if you need Brutus, Mauler is a good idea, but Wilder is the safest bet
hearty seal
Been stuck here for a while. Any help?
frigid portal
Use lightbearers, not graveborn
split junco
@rugged marten https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579371733459664897/579371886585053195/unknown.png
pale kettle
Help me?
rugged marten
Yes, LB are much better early game compared to GB, who mostly have heroes which are amazing late game, but need their levels to be good (between 161 and 201 for most is when they start to shine)
@split junco I'd go Wilder honestly, Ascend your Lyca to E+ now though, same with the Vedan you have
pale kettle
Luke can you help me?
hearty seal
So you think I should replace thoran with hogan?
rugged marten
@pale kettle swap Thane for Saveas and put him up top, that stage will most likely need you to outlevel the enemy due to the double Brutus so might take a while
pale kettle
Ok, what about Athalia?
rugged marten
@hearty seal swap Thoran for Hogan and Shemira for another LB for the faction bonus
@pale kettle there's no high priority targets in that comp so Athalia wouldn't be ideal
split junco
@rugged marten made my luca and mirael e+ now, what u think i should use teamwise now? and what should epic should i pull? LB?
past ermine
Should I use them to get an Elite+ Ira?
rugged marten
@split junco focus on getting Saveas ascended up to a decent level (E+ would be a good start for him), I'd honestly say Mauler would be a good bet because for now, Saveas could do with Khasos life leech or Numisu haste, preferably both though
@past ermine no, Arden becuase he is useful until laround chapter 22, Ira stops being useful after around chapter 8
past ermine
alright ty
still oar
Hard-working luke in action
hoary kayak
Is it worth leveling one character much higher than others on your team? Or do you want an even level across the team? ie Brutus being 85 and the rest of the team (Khasos, Arden, Saevas, Hogan) all 64-65? Thanks!
slim moss
11-16 any tips for formation or changes
rugged marten
@slim moss 141 that Saveas, take Lucius, Estrilda and Nemora out of your pentagram because their level cap is only 140, put Saveas and Vedan in there for now and then another when you get the chance (so only take 2 out for the time being)
past ermine
also, should i reset all of my rare/rare+ back to lvl 1 and use those mats for my Elite/elite+ , i removed this cause i didnt know whether i should put this somewhere else
rugged marten
If you can use the heroes as food to upgrade a hero, then that'd save you 20 diamonds becuase you'll get the resources back but yeah, only level up 5 and keep them 5 as your highest ascended heroes
cedar ember
@slim moss Upgrade Saveas more
past ermine
alright
slim moss
Alright thanks
past ermine
I was asking because currently I have, all of these guys with lvls in them
harsh sail
@rugged marten it worked 😁 tyvm
rugged marten
As you can see here, my 5 highest ascended heroes are the only ones I used resources to upgrade, Shemira is my carry so I will focus on upgrading her first, this applies to all levels, if you have a better hero that is lower ascension level, try and avoid using resources on them as it'll be a waste
harsh sail
That's what won @rugged marten
rugged marten
I only use 3 of the heroes that are on my top row, but because their level cap is highest, I upgraded them instead of heroes I was intending on using due to the resonating crystal bypassing hero level caps (apart from level 160 for Legendary tier heroes such as Saveas and Arden)
past ermine
so focus on ascended Tier heros rather than legendary tier
rugged marten
@harsh sail looks like a solid line up, Khasos life leech and Lyca haste turns Saveas into a monster, especially with Brutus as his frontline
harsh sail
They actually smashed Lyca but it was all good
rugged marten
@past ermine it's only applicable if you have a level 160 crystal level already, before then, just use your 5 highest ascension levels until you get to that stage, then if you can, switch to Ascended tier heroes
@harsh sail Lyca is only really used for her initial haste and energy gain so no worries if she dies 5 seconds into the battle
harsh sail
Can you also tell me who should be my carry? My luck seems to be crap but the legendary is what it is cuz that's what I got
marble thunder
Can my team continue progress to clear chap 13 once all lvl160?
Im at chap 13-4 and i find it very tough. No brutus here
past ermine
thing with that Luke i have Thane and Angelo to elite+, I always use them and i use Hogan a lot, then the other slots i generally swap out based on what i am fighting because i have 6 others that are elite
as soon as i get 45k lab coins then im planning on buying a second elite shemira so she will be elite+
slate mason
I cant beat this :(
rugged marten
My alt account, as another example @harsh sail
@slate mason who does Silvina jump on? Angelo?
harsh sail
Does VIP carry to another server? Pondering starting over 😭
toxic sigil
rugged marten
No it doesn't, think of it as a new account on a new device @harsh sail
harsh sail
I'm like level 6 (Closer to 7) :/ is it too late to salvage mine now?
rugged marten
It's never too late to salvage an account, just requires a few diamonds to reset heroes and advice to redirect in the right direction @harsh sail
toxic sigil
Yea if ur f2p it’s always too late
obsidian summit
Was about to ask for help on this, but somehow I brute forced it on like, the 15th attempt
split junco
what toons should i focus on
potent oar
Help please
obsidian summit
@split junco Brutus and Nezha for sure, your top list is pretty good, but I'd say Saveas is maybe more useful way later, and the witch chick gets outclassed at higher levels
rugged marten
@potent oar Sav, Brutus, Khasos, Belinda and Lucius
split junco
who is nezha
slate mason
@rugged marten yeah angelo. No matter how i nove people around silvana destroys angelo and then gg
obsidian summit
Grezhul, my bad
rugged marten
@slate mason you put Angelo far away from Saveas then, even frontline him if you want, sometimes that's what it takes
main epoch
Somebody's been playing warframe? 😉
obsidian summit
@main epoch thank you, I was trying to figure out where my brain got that xD
dapper frigate
The top line is my team, any recommendations to switch my team up?
obsidian summit
Dump Hogan
rugged marten
@dapper frigate swap Hogan for Brutus and reset that Fawkes to level 1, it's dust and exp your top 5 could do with, swap Tasi for Lyca too
Put Ankhira and Ira (E+ one) in your pentagram as well, their level caps are higher than Athalia and Tasi's
dapper frigate
I did reset Fawkes, I just took the picture before I did, I was lazy and didn't take another picture
split bolt
Any tips?
patent flint
Who should I make 141 first?
pale kettle
Can I have some help?
glacial drift
Need help on 6-24.
rugged marten
@glacial drift Sav, Khasos, Belinda, Lucius and Hogan
@pale kettle Brutus, Saveas, Lucius, Belinda, athalia
@split bolt Saveas, Brutus, Lucius, Belinda, thane
@patent flint Saveas 141 is the most important to get, then Brutus
glacial drift
@rugged marten like this?
pale kettle
THANK YOU SM!!
rugged marten
@glacial drift no, Lucius and Hogan are frontline heroes, Sav in the back, same with Khasos
earnest mason
Any recommendations?
past ermine
So Luke i reset my rares (cost me 100 diamonds) and put the materials into getting Thane, Shemira to lvl 61, and Arden to lvl 59, that got me past 4-36
glacial drift
I tried with this and lost.
rugged marten
@earnest mason Sav, Brutus, Lyca, Belinda, Warek (have you got any other Maulers liek Khasos or Numisu?)
earnest mason
Not high enough to make a difference. All elite besides those 3
rugged marten
@glacial drift it's a hard stage because Brutus gains damage when he's low health and immunes, try and get Saveas up a few levels and put Saveas in either the top or bottom only, never middle, he needs to concentrate his damage, in the middle he will spread it too much
past ermine
now i need to figure out what im doing with the pentagram
rugged marten
@past ermine nice
@earnest mason but who are they?
split bolt
@rugged marten no luck. Getting melted by Silvina. Guess time to keep afking
earnest mason
Skreg and nimusu
keen dawn
6-16 Any tips or should I just wait to level them?
rugged marten
@split bolt that's what it takes sometimes, you'll probably have more luck later with some levels behind your belt
@earnest mason if you choose Numisu, frontline Lyca because she is only really used for her initial haste and energy gain, if Warek, use him as frontline
@keen dawn pu Lucius up top and yeah, looks like you need levels, Lucius has a physical immunity with his shield ability so frontline better than Hogan vs her
earnest mason
@rugged marten thanks for recommendation. Didn’t work at all though. THey get melted
keen dawn
Ty, I already tried every kind of formation lol. I'll just wait some levels then
rugged marten
@earnest mason you probably need levels then, which is a pretty hard wall for you currently unfortunately, Saveas 141 is a game changer honestly, will get you to chapter 14 no problem, and 15 with the right comp behind him, just means you need the E+ fodder to get him there
knotty plinth
Can someone please help been stuck on this for ages
earnest mason
Mmhm. I’m trying to get him there. Once he’s there idk who to swap him for as I’d lose my aura.
rugged marten
@earnest mason use the comp I suggested, Belinda, Lyca and 3 Mauler (Sav, Brut and Warek)
knotty plinth
@rugged marten could you please help
earnest mason
Warek dies immediately at elite +. Not a good comp. sorry.
rugged marten
@knotty plinth put Belinda away from Saveas becuase Silvina will target him after messing her up, next best bet would be take out Golus and put in Numisu or Ankhira if you can, to bait out Silvina to a position while keeping Belinda alive for her to buff your sav
knotty plinth
Ok thanks @rugged marten
rugged marten
@earnest mason Warek isn't ideal, like I said he is mostly there just to give you a faction bonus, it'd be better if you had a hero like Khasos instead, but you have to deal with what you have currently
knotty plinth
@rugged marten I still get destroyed
rugged marten
@knotty plinth frontline Khasos, not Ankhira
past ermine
So I shouldn't lvl hogan and just the five up top there?
rugged marten
If Golus can tank better than Hogan, use him instead, but I presume as Hogan is L, he can tank better
knotty plinth
Still getting destroyed
past ermine
then use the resonating crystal to get hogan to the right lvl?
rugged marten
@past ermineonly level up 5, so the second line should either be resonating crystal levels or level 1
past ermine
alright gotcha, Thank you very much for being very helpful ^-^
rugged marten
@knotty plinth put Ankhira away from Saveas because as I said before with Belinda, she is your target for Silvina, don't have her near your carry
earnest mason
Gave my levels from fawkes (made him 121) and made Brutus 150. It worked 😄
upper barn
stuck on 11-32
knotty plinth
@rugged marten still getting destroyed 😂😂
rugged marten
Nice, the stat boost from 20 levels is usually around a 30% increase, which is huge honestly, so always worth considering, I don't feel Fawkes would be ideal to use too much though for future reference as he has low dps, and basically works the same as Tasi, but without the OP sleep on her Ult @earnest mason
You probably just need levels then @knotty plinth try again once a few are level 120 or above
knotty plinth
Ok thanks
cinder crag
Hard stuck any ideas ?
rugged marten
@cinder crag Shemira out, Belinda in, Saveas behind Lucius, that stage is a big power check for players so usually people just need a bunch of levels to get through it
@cinder crag is, that Khasos I can see in the third row, under Ira? If so take Fawkes out for him too
cinder crag
I got khasos but tbh khasos has low dps and utility Fawkes provides is better tbh also I don't understand why I should take out shemira in place of Belinda but I will try anyways
rugged marten
Khasos provides life leech for your carry, which is much more than Fawkes trapping a hero that isn't actually the main problem @cinder crag
@cinder crag also, Khasos can frontline better than Estrilda early game due to his bulkier stats and damage reduction upon using his ult
cinder crag
Isabella usually deals 30k crit so it is actually a big deal 2 shots Lucius so
toxic sigil
https://gyazo.com/c2139ca1f1f6ca6fa83b75739f70927b Plz help me I’m stuck on 10-32
rugged marten
Lucius is a physical tank, not a good idea to put him vs magic damaging enemies @cinder crag
@toxic sigil 10-32 with them levels?
toxic sigil
Yea
rugged marten
Damn, that really sucks, post the enemy line up? @toxic sigil
cinder crag
Yes but point is with my current line up she bursts down Lucius easily but nevertheless I will try what you suggest thanks
pale kettle
HOLY SHIT LETS GOO
rugged marten
That's all I'm here for, to advise, I wouldn't take anyone's word as gospel in here, but most people tend to have good intentions and want you to progress, so always worth at least considering what's advised ☺️ @cinder crag
@pale kettle congrats
pale kettle
Ty holy I was stuck there for a week atleast lmao
toxic sigil
@rugged marten is the plug. I always see him in here helping people out
rugged marten
I try
nocturne peak
#Luke4Cyan 
cinder crag
@rugged marten I appreciate help it seems I need more levels cuz what you suggested and what I tried don't work
toxic sigil
#Luke4Cyan <574554395811905536>
rugged marten
@cinder crag sometimes that's what it takes, I'm currently stuck on 21-4 and need a 240 Shemira before I can beat it, which means I need to 200 my crystal to get her there, so I'm gonna be stuck here for about a month or so, levels play such a huge part in progression
mighty epoch
Hello! Im just a bit curious if you rerolled before starting or just rolled with what you got? Its nothing new for me playing gachas before, im looking to start this game. Would it be better to start with 2 very good heros you like or 2 copys of a good hero that you like? Thanks 
rugged marten
@mighty epoch start with 2 different heroes, that are good is ideal
mighty epoch
Thanks
fallow robin
haughty steeple
@scarlet crescent#
rugged marten
@pale kettle post enemy line up
@fallow robin you too
pale kettle
I dont know what to use
rugged marten
It varies with the enemies @pale kettle
fallow robin
pale kettle
I'm stuck in chapter 11
drowsy raptor
Anything i can do here
split junco
with new toons i got, u think im still using correct team?
timid cave
@drowsy raptor start using that butterfly or Arden. Cc is OP for pushing higher leves
rugged marten
@pale kettle theres 40 stages in chapter 11, and all require different heroes soemtimes
@split junco I'd use Khasos over Warek and have Saveas and Lucius in the resonating crystal due to their level cap being lower than Mirael, Vedan and Estrilda, but yeah, top row and Khasos over Warek works nicely
@drowsy raptor try Golus, Numisu, Saveas, Belinda and Hogan
split junco
ok replace warek
pale kettle
I see
rugged marten
Arden needs 141 to be truly good, Tasi works great, but you need to keep in mind that she doesn't do much damage, and if you need damage and not CC, she's not a good choice, in chapter 19+ however, she is one of the best to use, and usually with Arden @timid cave
drowsy raptor
I'll try those
rugged marten
If you buy into the meta, Shemira, Brutus, Wilder trio, after chapter 16 of course, then Lyca, Nemora, Arden and Tasi will all be switching about fro mstage to stage, I've passed staged without Nemora because I needed Tasi's sleep, Arden roots and Lyca haste, then I've passed stages purely because Nemora had a great target to charm, and other stages without Lyca becuase the haste wasn't necessary @drowsy raptor
rugged marten
@drowsy raptor that 9-20, right? It's a big power check for players and usually needs a lot of afk to level up to be able to pass, a 141 Saveas is usually key but there are obviously other ways around it
drowsy raptor
Aye
I actually feel pretty close with the comp i posted with Arden instead of marvus
I just need 121
rugged marten
Arden is heavy rng reliant, so always worth trying a good 10-15 times with him just to see the difference in outcome
normal matrix
Anyone got any advice for 9-26?
rugged marten
@normal matrix 141 your Saveas and leave Shemira be for now, try Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, Lucius, Belinda
pine folio
im stuck on 9-20 😔
rugged marten
@pine folio you need levels probably, but when you can get Saveas up and try Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, Lyca and Warek or Belinda and Lyca (Lyca frontline because she's useful for her initial haste, but not much after that)
normal matrix
Really? Shemira has been consistantly doing the most damage so I ended up focusing on her lol
rugged marten
@normal matrixshe needs 161 to be able to frontline due to her Ult constantly healing her, she's too squishy otherwise
pine folio
my levels are 125-140 😔
so who exactly would go in the front? brutus and lyca in the front, belinda khasos and saveas in the back?
rugged marten
141 Saveas will carry you through it, just means you need the food to upgrade him to that, and yes, that line up, Warek in front if you use him instead @pine folio
sharp osprey
Any tips for this?
rugged marten
@sharp osprey you need a higher ascension Saveas for him to be able to clear it, you need to wait for food to get him there
sharp osprey
so i just have to afk till i can make him legendary,
past ermine
So which one should I ascend, given my current elites
rugged marten
Preferably 141, which requires Legendary+ due to how his damage works, have you got the appropriate unions capped as Legendary+? @sharp osprey
@past ermine I'd upgrade Hogan to E+ first
sharp osprey
you mean at the library?
past ermine
so who should i use to get one of those hogans up there, the two hogans and the angelo?
rugged marten
Yes, Legendary+ trio for Saveas is 10% health for him, his Ult consumes 8% of his current health and adds x2 to his attack, so yeah, it helps a lot @sharp osprey
@past ermine either that or use your Mirael and Angelo to do so
sharp osprey
my library unions are pretty bad tbh :/
rugged marten
Then check out #mercenary and see if you can get them up 👍
normal matrix
Thanks @rugged marten I changed stuff like this and cleared it instantly
rugged marten
@sharp osprey I can give you a maxed Brutus/Khasos union if you want, only got 1 space though
past ermine
so what to do hmmm, i think i might just use the hogans and the angelo unless i wanna for some reason be able to get another elite angelo before mirael
rugged marten
@normal matrix grats
rugged marten
There's my ID
toxic sigil
I need a ira l+ so bad
rugged marten
@past ermine it won't really matter too much in the grand scheme of things honestly
past ermine
alright
sharp osprey
gotcha
rugged marten
@sharp osprey Beta your IGN?
past ermine
Alright well now i have Thane, Angelo, and Hogan to elite+
rugged marten
Hogan works nicely as an early game frontline, Angelo is basically fodder from the start almost and Thane is decent later on, once you can give him crits, but until then not the best @past ermine
past ermine
Well Thane and Angelo, i just got two elites from the tavern and ascended them cause what else would i do with them, the Hogan is the second hero ive gotten an elite from ascending the first one was Arden
prisma spoke
hi everyone, im currently using the first 5, should i swap to lightbringers
use 60 gems, reset to 3 lightbringers, ferael, ira maybe
rugged marten
@prisma spoke only level 5 heroes up, you don't have much choice yet in terms of heroes, Lucius is a fantastic hero though, I'd try and use Hogan, Lucius, Mirael, Ferael and Vedan for now
past ermine
but yeah ill get another graveborn elite if i get another Silvina or Niru, then i can choose between Silvina, Niru, or Vedan to ascend to elite
sharp osprey
yes im beta
heavy lark
I’m hardstuck lol should I just level
prisma spoke
@rugged marten thank you
rugged marten
@heavy lark you have no faction bonus other than what Ezizh provides, try getting at least 3 heroes on your team of the same faction
past ermine
Also Thank you Luke for taking the time to help all of us
heavy lark
I die in 20 seconds anyway feelsbad
slow ivy
Hey, i was wondering if this is decent?
sharp osprey
does my whole team benefit from the unions or only the named heroes?
still oar
@slow ivy short answer yes. Is saveas your dps?
@sharp osprey only heroes in the unions
@heavy lark may I see all of your heroes
heavy lark
@still oar
slow ivy
Dps? Lmao, what does that mean..? He does the majority of the damage, if thats what youre asking
still oar
@slow ivy damage per second. Yes
@heavy lark can u resonate lyca? And level saveas up to 141?
rugged marten
Need a level 120 pentagram to do that @still oar
heavy lark
I resonated Lyca, but everyone needs to be 120 for 141 Saveas.
still oar
Oh yeah forgot bout that
Let's try a stall team and see how long u last
Ezizh lyca
Tasi Arden and saveas @heavy lark
heavy lark
Who’s Arden? 😅
rugged marten
@heavy lark old guy in the Wilder faction, with the big hat
still oar
@jovial tendon trade nemora with khasos
heavy lark
THAT WORKED, CHEERS! @rugged marten @still oar
still oar
:😁
rugged marten
@heavy lark awesome
minor hatch
Stuck
frigid veldt
No combo seems to be able to make a dent in this stage. Should I focus on getting Sav to 160 or the rest to 140ish?
jovial tendon
did not work for me. he ulted isabella and not nemora
verbal prairie
@frigid veldt Yes..you should do that
still oar
@minor hatch 141 Shem with call
Lyca Bru
Nemora shemira Arden
verbal prairie
@frigid veldt Or you can make Khasos 141 and then Sav 160
past ermine
the classic "this or this? yes"
minor hatch
Ty I won
frigid veldt
@verbal prairie they're all 130 now this was an old SS. I'll focus Khasos next
still oar
@frigid veldt up sav to max
Bru khasos
Arden tasi sav
naive bramble
Hey guys. I've been stuck at 9-20 for a few days. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
verbal prairie
@naive bramble Max Saveas and finish 4th peaks
still oar
@naive bramble ascend Arden and none for lb
minor hatch
@naive bramble put lyca and luscious in front and shemira Belinda in back
I think maybe Arden in back too
I had same line up for the front which bout me hella time
Nvm put saveas back there I didn’t see him
naive bramble
still learning hero names lol. i can't see to find lyca
rugged marten
Lyca is the one riding the deer @naive bramble
rugged marten
Swap Arden out for Hogan and use him and Lucius as your frontline @naive bramble
naive bramble
they both die so fast
rugged marten
Focus Sav on Vedan if he can kill him before he ults, Niru is an awkward one to vs due to his stacking damage increase but if you can't kill him before anyone else dies, don't focus on him
naive bramble
ya niru is my current wall. vedan is getting killed quickly
rugged marten
Then use that, you probably just need more levels to be able to kill and survive vs him @naive bramble
alpine jolt
Can someone please help me with which heroes I should prioritise leveling up 80+ first and which hero to use rn and how to position them from 1-5. thanks in advance
still oar
@alpine jolt your priorities should be dps > def>support
Try sav even tho he is still rare.
At w
Your level you should level up whomever has highest ascencion
alpine jolt
I think I did a big mistake... I used one rare+ saveas as fodder for golus....
rugged marten
It's not too bad, Saveas isn't crazy hard to obtain @alpine jolt
And at least it wasn't an E+ Saveas you used
alpine jolt
yeah but if I waited maybe i couldve ascended him instead of golys but I didnt have 2ns frontline and golus can actually do smth there
rugged marten
True, but at least you've learned from it, rather than doing it 4-5 times and then realising 😅
alpine jolt
How should my final lineup look like from 1 to 5? Please its hard for me to position those heroes. I want to put the support somewhere she could gather energy faster. idk how to do that. Her ult is always too late.
vivid garnet
Should I take numisu or saveas to legendary?
still oar
@vivid garnet saveas but don't use numisu as fodder
vivid garnet
I have 2 saveas and a numisu at elite+ should I sit on them?
still oar
@vivid garnet yes
rugged marten
Yes, Saveas will be your best carry and Numisu is an Ascended tier hero so don't use any of them as food @vivid garnet
still oar
@alpine jolt who? Nemora?
rugged marten
Better boots helps a lot @alpine jolt boots increase a heroes speed, which affects their attack speed
And once you unlock Dura's call, that's the best for getting a quicker Ult
alpine jolt
yeah Nemoras ult
still oar
Yes. She rather slow w/o call and boots.
Maybe when u unlock more hero u can support her with buff and debuff. I used to use the guardians of the Forest to help her.
Maybe for now you could use
Golus ogi
Sav nemora ira
you can replace ira with Arden when u have him
@alpine jolt
unreal olive
Who should I use?
soft igloo
need help with 8-32
rugged marten
Depends on the stage you're vs, use them greens in the rickety cart and retire them, I'd recommend using Athalia, Hogan, Estrilda, Mirael and Saveas for now @unreal olive
@soft igloo what's the config of the enemies? Tht helps more than showing who is the enemy
soft igloo
soft igloo
@rugged marten ^^^
rugged marten
@soft igloo okay try and see how Saveas, Khasos, Belinda, Lyca, Golus does
Saveas
Khasos
Lyca
Golus
Belinda (she will die to Silvina)
@latent meteor show me the enemy line up and I'll try and help you out 👍
soft igloo
my golus is really low level tho
still oar
@latent meteor post your stage as too
unreal olive
@rugged marten What formation would you use with those 5?
rugged marten
@soft igloo you need 2 frontline and Golus allows the Mauler faction bonus for your team, that's why I suggested him
@latent meteor try swapping Shemira for either Vedan or Mirael, they can do well as a carry for a short while, I'd definitely focus on working on a Saveas when you can though
latent meteor
Which is better tho vedan or mirael
edgy surge
random sequoia
Should I switch to Shem carry? She’s only Leg atm. Also is there anything else I should change about my lineup?
latent meteor
I still lost lmao @rugged marten
soft igloo
@rugged marten yeah i get that. should i wait until i can either get him in my resonating crystal or level him up, or replace him
latent meteor
i tried using vedan
rugged marten
@latent meteor you put Vedan up front? And made him your highest level?
@random sequoia once you have the resources to 161 Shem, reset Saveas and out her in his place, then you have the perfe t set up to make it to chapter 22, with a bunch of levels and ascensions of course
latent meteor
@rugged marten no i made him the same level as shemira and put him at the back
rugged marten
@soft igloo if you can get Saveas to be one of your 5 highest ascended, definitely use him as one of your pentagram heroes so you can overlevel him compared to the rest of your team
soft igloo
yeah i’m getting everyone to 120 then i’m focusing him as much as possible
rugged marten
@latent meteor no, take out Shemira, don't focus on her yet because she needs to be level 161 before she really starts to shine, so leave her be and collect copies of her to prepare, Vedan needs to be overlevelled to carry a team
soft igloo
also, could i switch golus for athalia? athalia gives the faction bonus bc of the celestial typing thing
storm apex
Can someone suggest me what I could use to beat stage 7-40 I'm desperate to beat it
forest shadow
I've just reset my resonmating crystal and my character levels, what is the best way to use it? I feel like I've been wasting it.
rugged marten
@soft igloo the issue with Athalia is that she quickly falls off, but is useful for a short while to single out high priority targets with nasty CC, like Arden with his roots and Nemora with her charms etc.
forest shadow
I'm also stuck on 6-28
latent meteor
@rugged marten yea i replaced my lvl 56 shemira for vedan and made vedan level 56. So should i reset my fawkes to to make vedan over leveled?
rugged marten
@storm apex put Saveas up top, Estrilda charge will interrupt his attacks, and try using Belinda over Hogan, frontline Ezizh if he can tank, if not, take him out
soft igloo
@rugged marten yeah she does. ill just keep leveling everyone up and wait until the summon update drops to get new units
rugged marten
@latent meteor oh I gotcha, I was under the impression you levelled Vedan up and kept Shemira on the team lol, my bad, no need to reset, just put all your resources you get from now into him until he's level 100, and cannot go up any more, you probably just need to wait for exp and dust to do that, it's annoying I know, but we all have to just sit back and wait for resources at some point or another
@soft igloo okay sounds good, waiting for the wishlist to be implemented should help everyone progress
latent meteor
Oh so i should focus on levelling him? So i dont level anyone else until he reaches 100?
rugged marten
You'll need everyone to be level 60 to get him above level 80, becuase there can not be any more than a 40 level defecit at any given point @latent meteor but yeah, focus on him and try and work on getting a Saveas upgraded to replace him when he eventually cannot carry your team
latent meteor
Oo ok thx for the tips. But im confused should i level everyone to lvl 60 first then focus on vedan or should i focus on levelling vedan straight away? Sorry im asking too many qns lol
rugged marten
There's no such thing as asking too many questions, unless you ask the same question lol
So get everyone to level 60 so you have the opportunity to get Vedan to level 100, level 61 will be ideal though as ascended heroes get their 4th skill, Belinda for example gains her attack and crit buff, which will work nicely with any carry etc. @latent meteor
latent meteor
ok my vedan is level 61 now i just gotta focus on making the rest of my peeps lvl 61. Thx for the help
storm apex
@rugged marten I tried running the lineup a couple of times from the pic but my Brutus Belinda and Numisu will always die so quickly do I just have to get some more levels?
rugged marten
Probably just soem levels yes, Saveas damage scales super fast as well so a few levels may surprise you on him, oh yeah, have you got their respective unions maxed yet? Legendary+ for each hero? If not, definitely find some people who can help you with that as it's a big change in hwo effective some heroes are @storm apex
storm apex
I dont have any of those library buffs maxed out I think so I should prob. look for some people to help me with that
Thanks for the the help anyway! @rugged marten
craggy sparrow
i think guildmates can be used as well
unions give nice buffs, sadly there are none for the newer champions (shemira, seirus)
rugged marten
@storm apex #mercenary is a good place to start, flicking through the different channels in the game is also a decent way to get new friends, finding a good guild is also pretty important for unions and remember, you can only use 3 of anyone's mercenaries so prioritise accordingly
craggy sparrow
im still missing a lyca legend+ for the final buff for her ^^
maybe i can make me one soon
rugged marten
If you can't make one, find one 😏 @craggy sparrow
craggy sparrow
my 10 faction scrolls from the starting event gave me 3 lyca
rugged marten
Wow, that is insane!
craggy sparrow
i just started a week ago and got really lucky
somber lance
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high sphinx
What would my ideal lineup be and what should I work on?
leaden olive
Lab is killing me
somber lance
Any advice would be helpful, ty. Will have Shemira before too much longer
rugged marten
@high sphinx I'd personally use Belinda, Saveas, Brutus, Hogan and Estrilda/Athalia
craggy sparrow
i find Shemira amazing but in that lineup i think the bonus is more important
gloomy galleon
rugged marten
@leaden olive don't use auto on lab, you need to think ahead and save energy to initiate fights, like Tasi can cancel out Thoran's bond thing he does, where the target he marks takes some damage he takes for the first part of the fight
gloomy galleon
should i use lucius?
leaden olive
Okay I’ll give that a go, thank you dude
rugged marten
And Shemira is the queen of Lab, so always worth having her in more or less @leaden olive
craggy sparrow
in the beginning it seems alot easier in Lab
rugged marten
@gloomy galleon depends on enemy line up, but in general I'd like to suggest Lucius, Estrilda, Hogan, Mirael and Nemora, or instead of Estrilda, use Vedan and overlevel Vedan, he can carry for a short while
high sphinx
Yeah lab is super hard for me now, had to use 4 duras this run
craggy sparrow
ouch
now i'd like some pointers too, i got mostly wilder at start and now i found a brutus and athalia
Thats the Hero - List right now
leaden olive
Finished lab w the tips thank you dude
rugged marten
@craggy sparrow you've got some nice heroes there tbh
craggy sparrow
i bought shemira for Lab Currency
coral bone
craggy sparrow
should have taken Nemora i think for a full Wilder Bonus, but i like Shemira 😄
coral bone
I want to play with shemira what can I change?
still oar
@craggy sparrow up saveas instead of Shem for now and u are golden
pale rover
@coral bone Grezhul Skregg/Golus Saveas Arden Shemira/Khasos (team bonus). You definitely need a bit more levels before you can work well with her, though.
rugged marten
@coral bone I wouldn't recommend using Shemira just yet, she is much better once she gains her Ult upgrade, which continously heals her at level 161
craggy sparrow
i kind of had the feeling that i dont get enough out of him, but now i could actually get him to legend
storm apex
I saw in a Video that removing the gear from all ur heroes before entering the lab will reduce the difficulty because it comes from the overall strength of the units you have. Not sure if its true though
rugged marten
Once Saveas is able to hit level 141, he turns into a god for dps, but before then, definitely worth having as your main DPS due to how his damage scales, consuming health to amp his damage @craggy sparrow
craggy sparrow
my momentary lineup is ogi/arden/lyca/seirus/shem
pale rover
@storm apex Not true afaik.
rugged marten
@storm apex doesn't work, the lab scales back up the moment you put the gear back on, unless you keep the gear off, it's based on your top 5 I believe
still oar
@storm apex only for the 1st floor. And 1st isn't the challenge
storm apex
Then this "trick" is useless I guess
rugged marten
Pretty much, unfortunately @storm apex
still oar
😅
craggy sparrow
and just lvling a single champion up does not work ^^
river hearth
Which team should i form?
somber lance
Any suggestions would be helpful, stuck at 6-12 atm.
rugged marten
@river hearth it depends on the enemy compisiton so can vary from stage to stage, check out the pinned messages for generic advice but I will say for now go with your top 5, work on getting a Saveas upgraded and overlevel him compared to the rest of your team, and focus on Shemira only once you can get her to level 161
@somber lance post the enemy line up and I'll see if I can help
river hearth
Do you think I should take advantage of faction team bonus below 160 level?
Or should I go for the best 5 on my team?
rugged marten
Yes, always worth at least considering taking advantage of it, but some heroes just tend to work better in some cases @river hearth
somber lance
rugged marten
@somber lance who is the Mauler below Ulmus?
somber lance
Ankhira
still oar
@somber lance can you 81 luc? If luc can tank u can try bleed s golus and saveas with ira
somber lance
@rugged marten Also, soon I can choose Shemira, Nemora, Estrilda, Khaso, which should I get?
still oar
@radiant shell may is see all of your heroes
rugged marten
@somber lance get your first enmors and then keep getting Shemira until you have 8 copies, of her, but keep in mind that you get 1 from the divine realm peaks level and completing chapter 13
@somber lance as Bean said, get Lucius to 81 so he can tank vs Saveas a little better, definitely try and get your Saveas upgraded too, he will do you justice
radiant shell
@still oar
somber lance
@rugged marten So Tasi, Luc, Saveas, Enmora, X? as a comp?
still oar
@somber lance it's nemora. Luke is dyslexic
somber lance
right sorry, me too apparently
rugged marten
@somber lance I'd say that isn't a bad comp, but Tasi isn't really necessary until around chapter 19, when you really start needing her
radiant shell
Any tips ?
somber lance
I need a replacement for Hogan, really underwhelmed
royal folio
Any tips on what my next goal should be and what my team comp should look like? I also have enough labyrinth tokens to buy one of the heroes, wondering which one I should get. Thanks! http://imgur.com/gallery/AUehrZP
rugged marten
@radiant shell try working on getting a, Saveas upgraded, but Brutus, Hogan and Belinda (once you have your 7 days played) will be a good core for your team, then you just need to work on dps, which Saveas will provide, and try to maintain at least a 3-1-1 faction bonus tol
@somber lance unfortunately Hogan is one of the better tank until you have 2 decent tanks to make him irrelevant, like Brutus and Lucius oraybe Khasos etc.
somber lance
Yeah, I have Lucius, just need the other.
craggy sparrow
and whats with Seirus? i think he is tanking quite well for me
still oar
@radiant shell golus Bru
Arden mirael athalia for now
Tell me how it went
rugged marten
@royal folio get that Saveas ascended as high as you can when you can, I'd recommend using Saveas, Hogan, Khasos, Fawkes and Belinda when you have unlocked Belinda, also upgrade any heroes that are E that you can get to E+, like that Hogan, no point having 2 E of the same hero
@craggy sparrow Serius is pretty decent but honestly gets outclassed by Brutus and Lucius in most of the game, I can't say how he is very late game though as I haven't had the chance to play with mine yet
royal folio
@rugged marten Sounds good, thanks! Was holding onto the duplicate since I come from Idle Heroes and I didn't know the value of fodder in this game. Ty for the heads up
craggy sparrow
im not sure, but he does quite a nice amount of dmg, maybe he shines with my 4 wilder team even more than he normally would
still oar
@craggy sparrow he will not tanky enough.
craggy sparrow
im stuck at 6-32 atm because its wilder vs mauler 😄
As Secondary Tank @still oar
rugged marten
@royal folio yeah, definitely worth asking before doing in some cases, but you can only use E+ or L+ as food in this game, E and L are useless for upgrading anything other than the same hero
royal folio
Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks
rugged marten
Take aahalia out of your pentagram and out Niru in there, his level cap is 40 levels higher than hers, same with Ira and either Lucius or Brutus (20 levels higher) @wintry knoll
That is a decent line up, Athalia quickly falls off however due to how difficult it is to ascend her so she falls behind on stats
wintry knoll
So who do I put where
narrow sleet
do i ascend it to legendary +?
rugged marten
@narrow sleet No, Silvina would do better for you
rugged marten
@wintry knoll try
Saveas
Brutus
Lyca
Lucius
Belinda
narrow sleet
@rugged marten
rugged marten
@narrow sleet I addressed it in #classic-questions
sharp osprey
@narrow sleet AHAHAHAHAHA
narrow sleet
@sharp osprey LOOOOOL, @rugged marten so what formation would u use?
rugged marten
@narrow sleet take out Silvina, put in Brutus
wintry knoll
Didn’t work
rugged marten
@wintry knoll then try Saveas bottom instead, see if Brutus can be killed quick enough by Saveas
narrow sleet
@rugged marten holy shit it worked
wintry knoll
Nope:/
rugged marten
You probably just need to afk for levels then @wintry knoll
wintry knoll
Yup
toxic sigil
Lol obviously @narrow sleet lmaoo
pale kettle
Is estrilda good ?
narrow sleet
@rugged marten yo bro can u add me?
rugged marten
Yes, late game she is a fantastic dps/support hero @pale kettle
pale kettle
Ok ty
rugged marten
3589095 @narrow sleet
narrow sleet
@rugged marten i have sent u a friend request bro 😄
rugged marten
@narrow sleet alpha your IGN? I had a bunch lol
narrow sleet
@rugged marten yeah bro xdd
kind sky
any ideas ?? 9-20 is messing me u p
rugged marten
@kind sky
You might need levels to pass it but I'd recommend, Saveas, Brutus, Lucius, Khasos and Belinda
pale kettle
team is top line, getting SPANEKD on 6-28, anyone have any reccomendations? maybe resetting a hero and pumping more into my dps?
rugged marten
@pale kettle Saveas, Brutus, Khasos, Lyca, Belinda
kind sky
@rugged marten okay tysm
dense marsh
Help please, I can’t beat them :’(
narrow sleet
im stuck OwO
rugged marten
@dense marsh same lineup I just suggested, Sav, Brutus, Khasos, Lyca, Belinda, but you might need levels to do it