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[glad ridge]

@pale rover !!!!!!!!!!!!

[pale rover]

@glad ridge Awesome! Congratulations. Sometimes it will just take a few tries, but if you can kill 3-4 it means you can do it.

[eternal apex]

@pale kettle Your problem on that level is that you have a bunch of different threats to look at. Using Silvina would help you get rid of Belinda, which would lower Saveas' impact as well. Your ascension levels are a bit low as well though, you may need to level to 101+ to crack it. Thoran, Vedan, Silvina, Saveas and Nemora should be able to get reasonably close, but you're going to struggle to tank the damage in that bottom line with your current roster

@glad ridge grats 😃

[near lava]

How good is Ulmus on early lvls?

[pale kettle]

Alright, I'll level up some more! I'm on 50 elite soulstones so I wanna get floor 90 done haha

[vestal furnace]

Any suggestions for that?

[pale rover]

@near lava Not very. He gets better over time, though. #classic-questions

[eternal apex]

@cinder crag I personally find Estrilda very weak at your stage in the game. I'd consider subbing her out Belinda, then running this team. It might not work but some rng might make it just work randomly one time

Fawkes
Shemira
Belinda
Lucius
Saveas

@near lava He really becomes good at the level where his passive health gain also affects teammates

[potent oar]

Help needed

[cinder crag]

Belinda would get melted in 3 seconds on the front line so I don't think that will work

[latent bough]

Should i focus more on getting a shemira or brutus dupe?

[near lava]

I'd say either is good

[eternal apex]

@cinder crag The front line has Shemira, in front of Niru she might survive long enough to heal herself, check the message again :)

@vestal furnace Belinda should always be central for a start. Also, you should reset Hogan and Ira and put Saveas and Silvina manually levelled. Your levels need work. You want Shemira and Saveas 121+ at least (they're your carries here), then fawkes, belinda, in that order. So your team should end up looking like this:

Fawkes (121+)
Shemira (121+)
Belinda (120 most likely)
Hogan (resonating crystal at 120)
Saveas (121+)

@latent bough they're both fantastic, I personally think Shemira is more important for the storymode

[pale rover]

@eternal apex There's new pinned stuff that might help you by the way! Tasi made a guide.☺️

[glad ridge]

any ideas?

[eternal apex]

@potent oar Try putting Saveas top and Nemora bottom. You need to burn down Isabella to win that node. Your factions are actually good

@pale rover I'm in the process of writing something else to pin too 😃

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex @pale rover any ideas

[potent oar]

@eternal apex thx 😁

[viscid verge]

Getting rekt, how do i pass it? Playing the slow game and lvl up heroes cuz lack of cc

[eternal apex]

@potent oar grats 😃

[glad ridge]

@viscid verge Imo i wouldnt have luc upfront if youre gonna run that team

[eternal apex]

@viscid verge Switch Estrilda and Belinda for one, Belinda should always be central so her AOE hits more targets. Apart from that, you need some kind of CC unfortunately. I actually think you're better off without a faction bonus here, using Lucius and Brutus front, Shemira Arden and Saveas/Lyca backline. Using Lyca will let you get your ults off faster which should help you survive longer for shemira to carry (even if Lyca dies early)

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex

[eternal apex]

@glad ridge Try putting Hogan opposite Khasos, Shemira in front of Estrilda, Saveas top behind Shemira, Belinda middle and either Arden or Lyca bottom. The idea is that Saveas attacks Hogan, if he focuses Shemira then you basically need to just quit until rng goes your way and he attacks hogan

You might need more levels on Shemira before she can take the beating from Estrilda though. Honestly these Saveas levels are really hard without Nemora or Lucius

[viscid verge]

@eternal apex ya the other heroes are too weak and not enough equipment to survive 2 hits, but thanks anyway lol ill afk for a week

[split oar]

Library maxed out please help

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex it came down to sev vs sev lol but thx!!!!!!!!!

[eternal apex]

Grats @glad ridge ! 😃

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex Is warek any good for me rn or is he late game? just pulled him

[eternal apex]

@split oar You can't beat that stage without either a hard carry well overlevelled (101+) or the whole team at 81+. Unfortunately the level jumps every 20 levels are massive and you're going to struggle without getting to 81. In terms of team, you should move Morvus central, Nemora top, and Thane bottom. But you definitely need levels

[patent fjord]

http://imgur.com/a/sJ8l4zf
Got a couple of new heroes and am progressing a bit more, but got stuck on this level (and every other pvp gamemode). What should I do in this level? Which heroes should I switch out for the resonating stone? Which units that I have would make the best team (for say for example, arena defense or just clearing stages in general)? Thanks!
Edit: Screencap of level is in the link, it's not showing here

[molten kettle]

First off you should really level your lancer... err the lady with the armored horse (sorry havent memorized names)

Just a suggestion... i don't know much other than shes great for frontline

[eternal apex]

@glad ridge Honestly I've never had any success with Warek. I don't know the best way to use him because I don't have Maulers really, but his big problem for me is that he throws the opponent frontliners into your backline. If you run a heavy damage backline that can work very well to isolate tanks early and take them down, but if you run supports in the back like me, then all it's doing is exposing your backline

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex gotcha

[patent fjord]

Estrilda? But isn't she a lightbearer? @molten kettle I'm not sure, but is team comp more important than using better alternatives? Last time I asked they told me to replace Estrilda with Warek for mauler boost

[eternal apex]

@molten kettle Estrilda is most certainly NOT a good early game option. She is good late game, but not strong early. You're better investing into Hogan before level 141

@patent fjord You ideally are going to need to make a bit of a choice. You can main either Maulers or Wilders (either will work) and then I can help you pick from there 😃

[molten kettle]

@eternal apex :v well the line up i had in mind is made to push the enemies line up out of order

[patent fjord]

@eternal apex Maulers would probably be first priority, seeing that I have lvl100 saveas. Thanks!
Edit: Of course, a wilders team would be appreciated

[eternal apex]

@molten kettle Estrilda is just too weak in mid game to be a tank, she also only really works with Lucius (her energy boost seems almost tailored to work with Lucius)

[glad ledge]

Hey folks. So I am pretty sure this is possible but smh I can't get further then a sav vs sav+Sth standoff. Any advice so I can proceed to being stuck on 6-36.. X)

[molten kettle]

@eternal apex lol lucius is in the line up i had in mind

Its only my second day playing but thanks for the info :D

[warm badge]

What is better, lvl 101 ulmus or serius?

[eternal apex]

@patent fjord Okay so your front liners right now are Basically Skreg and Seirus. If you read my message just above you'll see I was talking about Warek. Both Skreg and Seirus are strong frontliners, especially Seirus in my experience, his aoe knockback ability is absolutely fantastic.

As for backline obviously Saveas is your main DPS. You've kinda got 2 spots for 4 options here with what's left. So you have Nemora, Arden, Lyca, and Khasos. I personally would use Nemora and Lyca, Lyca for her haste at the start and Nemora for her heals and charm. Arden is also a strong crowd control but probably needs to be higher level (i think 121) before his roots are that important. Khasos is definitely a viable option, I just personally think Nemora and Lyca have fantastic synergy with Seirus and also pair well with Saveas

@warm badge It really depends on your enemies, but I would personally use Seirus at that level. Ulmus is best late game when his passive boosts

[vague ridge]

@patent fjord just nemora instead shem for more cc like top to charm kaz n Arden middle. serius is also good tank in case you wanna make widlers trio isntead that skreg

[patent fjord]

Thanks for the tips @eternal apex! Will try first (need to wait for resonating crystal)

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex

[eternal apex]

@glad ledge I think you ideally just need levels.. You could also try subbing Belinda in for Khasos (she'll boost Saveas' attack stat)

[glad ridge]

I got it lol

[eternal apex]

@glad ridge lol I was about to reply for you

[pale rover]

Warek is good late game. He needs mauler backing as well, like Vurk, to shine.

Otherwise he's pretty terrible to fit into other teams not mauler centric.🤔

[eternal apex]

@pale rover I've never been able to make Vurk work, he always seems to just waste 60% of his ult on scattered enemies

[glad ridge]

@pale rover So dont worry about him rn then?

[pale rover]

They shine at 181-201☺️

Late game indeed.

[eternal apex]

@glad ridge Definitely don't worry about him now. Don't use him as ascension fodder, but you don't need to plan for him right now

[pale rover]

@glad ridge If you plan to focus on Maulers Warek is a viable option but it'll be a long wait. Use others first for sure.

[icy mist]

I need help i cant beat this level

[glad ridge]

@eternal apex This is a little off topic but back when I first started I had thane and Raine and ended up using them as fodder... didnt realize what i had done

[eternal apex]

@glad ridge Don't worry we've all done it lol I recently used a legendary Belinda to make my Lucius mythic+ 😛

[delicate skiff]

hey can someone give some advice of wht should I use for 11-40

[eternal apex]

@icy mist Switch Warek and Estrilda for one. Then move Belinda centre, Vedan top, and Thane bottom. You might get through it with the faction damage bonuses that way

[dire ridge]

I'm thinking I have a lot of problems.

[eternal apex]

@delicate skiff Your Shemira isn't strong enough to frontline that stage. You need to move her back. I think you may need to wait until you can your team over 141 so that Lucius can front line. Until then, you could try this but don't be surprised if it gets rolled. You could also try subbing in Raine or Nemora for Arden or Fawkes. Just play around with it a bit, you may just get lucky

Fawkes
Lucius
Arden
Estrilda
Shemira

@dire ridge You need to fix up your levelling first off. Switch our Lucius and Tasi for someone Elite+, so you can get your crystal heroes to 101+ as well. But then, you've got a strong core. I'd personally run Lucius and Seirus front, with Athalia Belinda and Tasi rear. But honestly you've got options and you can explore around there with adding in heroes like Kaz, Estrilda, even Mirael and Ira can work sometimes

[steel kestrel]

Im newbie here for 2 days, this is my line up who should i focus to be main or sth. Tks guys

[eternal apex]

@steel kestrel Your shemira is awesome. You should focus (at least in the short term) on Shemira, Golus, Saveas, Silvina, and either Khasos or Vedan (whichever you prefer, they'll act very similar)

Saveas
Golus
Shemira
Khasos/Vedan
Silvina

long term, your mauler core are still great, Khasos Saveas and Golus are all fantastic and can fit very well with Shemira. If you manage to get Numisu, he'd work as the 5th, or else someone like Tasi, nemora, angelo, or arden would work as well

Okay guys I'm gonna head off. Best of luck everybody!

[steel kestrel]

Wow great tks for the advices man

[surreal mist]

How the duck can i beat this level?

[frigid portal]

Enhance your gear?

[surreal mist]

It mostly is.

[frigid portal]

You're going against Maulers so I'd use more Lightbearers

[surreal mist]

What formation would you suggest?

[frigid portal]

Melee users in the front

[surreal mist]

Go duck yourself.

[frigid portal]

What do you need help with?

I'm not sure if I can help there, sorry

[normal echo]

@pale kettle Silvina is your strongest PvP hero I'd day

However at that point of the game just use your 5 strongest heroes

Don't invest resources into other heroes it will only slow down your progress on the chapters

What is your current progress?

I see. It will increase over time, certain stage progress also unlocks stronger gear in the shop and labyrinth. However it's not good to buy guy with diamonds it's not worth the prices. I think around chapter 6 it should increase overall. Not sure tho.

@pale kettle Not at all, you need at least 3 of the same faction.

However the heroes itself are good. Arden has good CC and Ogi and Skreg are an ok front line

Maybe you could exchange Mirael for Ira

Then you get at least the basic buff

[pale kettle]

Any advice with lvls or lineup?

[kindred silo]

Help!

[normal echo]

@pale kettle I wouldn't change anything right now

[tall mirage]

@kindred silo quite hard u dun have real dps to get mirael or that gunner fast

[normal echo]

If you can't get any further AFK a bit or change the order of your heroes

@kindred silo Hogan and Ogi in the front, Tasi, Nemora and Belinda in the back

[tall mirage]

well can try 2 tank front then nem on top, bel n tasi u choose ;p

[kindred silo]

Thanks!

[tall mirage]

basically keep ur dps/healers away from ogi/golus or any that would slow them down

[kindred silo]

I beat it. Thanks guys for the help!

[wild snow]

Is raine useful?

[ember bane]

Need advice plz ty

[warm badge]

What should i make legendary? And here is my current lineup also

[gleaming gulch]

Hey! Is there a tier list somewhere? I’m a few days into the game and want to make sure I start well

[warm badge]

@gleaming gulch i have been myself googling tierlists, they are quite consistant and updated on every tierlist page

[pale kettle]

Is worth using lab tokens, on štart account... On blue shards

[gleaming gulch]

@warm badge any that you constantly look at?

[kindred silo]

Choices? Or should I wait?

[glossy forum]

get serius to elite + first

then tasi to legendary using arden + ogi imo

[hot rock]

keep your aarden

[kindred silo]

Yea and I need ogi too because my other tank

[half cloud]

Are better ravenborn with brutus /saveas or Belinda/estrilda/thane?

[ocean shell]

@half cloud id try to swap fareal for a Vedan. Fareal is strong late game but right now you need early game carry

[placid dirge]

@kindred silo serius replaces ogi and Ik everyone is pro Arden but get seirus to use ogi and Arden after it goes ellite plus

[light elm]

I'd get arden to l+ before anyone else

[wind trail]

Can someone help me I'm stuck on 4-36

[kindred silo]

I got serius to elite + now.

[placid dirge]

@kindred silo use ogi and Arden on serius

[light elm]

@wind trail belinda sav khasos Fawkes hogan can get you to chap 6 without much investment. Reevaluate after you get a few more heroes

[ocean shell]

@wind trail it's hars to give tips when you are still this early in the game
. Level up your saveas quickly and he will carry you

[placid dirge]

Never ran saveas myself

[wind trail]

Thanks alot

[kindred silo]

I’m fine with sacrificing ogi but are you sure about ardan?

[ocean shell]

@placid dirge thats because your brutus is spicy

[tall mirage]

@kindred silo noo dun. Arden even when only E+ is good in late game

[light elm]

I'd recommend you wait. If you don't have 2 more seirus lying around. It's better to commit to heroes you can actually legwnd+. And arden is a fantastic candidate for L+, he's one of the best heroes at that stage @kindred silo

[tall mirage]

but then if u confident later u would get him again then go ahead

[kindred silo]

I see. I’ll wait for now. I am not stuck just yet and I just made it to stage 8

[ocean shell]

@kindred silo good to hear! If there's anything feel free to pm me ^_^

[kindred silo]

Will do!

[placid dirge]

@tall mirage Arden out grew his usefulness for me

@light elm I wont denie ardens usefulness at his stage but you get so much of them

[tall mirage]

@placid dirge at 141+ arden can cc/root 3 that helps alot

[light elm]

2 elite+ fodder takes a week or 2 to farm as f2p though, and through stage 8 to 16-17 arden is definitely one of the best heroes to use

[analog cipher]

how best line up for 9-24 ? ty

[placid dirge]

@tall mirage not if the initial damage at the start of the match insta kills him

@analog cipher you gotta screen shot it we cant see how to help

[humble sky]

I’ve been stuck for a while, help thanks!

[tall mirage]

@placid dirge well ya like when they have silvy but thats the fun u have to try to keep him alive or replace him with different formations.

[placid dirge]

@tall mirage no Silvia

[light elm]

@analog cipher try lucius for shem nad another dps for raine, maybe kaz. And lane the other dps against niru. I doubt belinda can burst him at this level given the faction disadvantage
@humble sky try a few times with tasi for ira

[placid dirge]

I'm way to high up for him to be useful @tall mirage

[tall mirage]

for example! :p thats also why they make him go abit further than other backliners, easier to die early

[ocean shell]

@humble sky you can ascend shemira to legendary. Shels strong and will help u

[light elm]

Shemira doesn't do much after chap 10 until she gets her 161. Silvina is much better if you need a grave dps

[vestal burrow]

I’m on stage 10-22. Mostly wondering if mythic estrilda is worth getting rid of hogan (who i pull frequently) as my main tank with Lucius and then using a different lineup after getting rid of him

[tall mirage]

ooh i see but again hes useful mid game...some late maps would still be..i dun see y not keep a cc around in ur team @placid dirge

[ocean shell]

@vestal burrow yes

[placid dirge]

@tall mirage not saying Arden is bad but I'd still take seirus over Arden that's the original question

[vestal burrow]

@ocean shell yes what

[tall mirage]

👌

[ocean shell]

@vestal burrow mythic estrilda. Then your comp is saveas, estrilda,shemira.vedan,ezizh

[light elm]

@vestal burrow estrilda needs a few more levels before I'd sacrifice hogan

[vestal burrow]

Wait... no Lucius??

[light elm]

Bruh that team has no cc no tank only dmg

[vestal burrow]

Pretty much 😂😂

[analog cipher]

9-24 help line up https://ctrlv.cz/cMH6 https://ctrlv.cz/2jrR

[ocean shell]

Ezizh gives 30% def and passice energy

[vestal burrow]

Okay imma try it out

[normal echo]

Also mutes enemy ulti

[ocean shell]

U dont really need heals whe you have that:)

[knotty plinth]

Need help ASAP plz

[vestal burrow]

I could also get fawkes to legendary? Would that be worthwhile since his coffin ability??

[ocean shell]

@vestal burrow fawkes is strong late game

[vestal burrow]

Or Belinda? Thane?

[ocean shell]

@vestal burrow don't feed ascended heroes

[light elm]

@knotty plinth send a pic which shows all enemies
@vestal burrow thane is a super dps but needs a lot of levels and gear. Fawkes is the best cc light has

[light elm]

@knotty plinth it's the same pic my man. But try ulmus and ira for faction bonus, if the guys you face aren't all maulers

[knotty plinth]

It’s stage 7-40

[flint dock]

who should i buy from the labyrinth shop?

[light elm]

1 copy of nemora if you don't have her, and then spam shemira

[flint dock]

or just spam shemira and hope that i get tasi to elite+?

[light elm]

I like having 1 nemora she's very useful

[rugged marten]

Shem, then Nemora, then 5-6 more shem @flint dock

[pale kettle]

stuck on 8-32

[glossy bane]

Just summoned a Brutus. Should I replace someone with him?

[light elm]

@glossy bane vedan if you using him as a tank
@pale kettle link stage

[glossy bane]

@light elm so should I Hogan/Brutus frontline, then Saveas/Shem/Arden backline?

[light elm]

For now yea, gotta rethink after 100

[placid dirge]

@rugged marten have you past your stage

[rugged marten]

Na, not yet @placid dirge

[fervent coyote]

@pale kettle I used this

[placid dirge]

@rugged marten I didnt change anything on my team to beat it just upgraded some gear and fawkes got a star guess that all I needed

[rugged marten]

@glossy bane try and aim for at least 3 Maulers if you are going to use Saveas and Brutus, that bonus health and attack helps a lot

[fervent coyote]

get another e+ on that pentagram so everyone can get to 101+

[rugged marten]

@placid dirge I'm using Wilder trio with Shem and Brutus, my Fawkes is E+ s won't hold out in it 😂

[placid dirge]

@rugged marten

[warm badge]

Need help... Any suggestions what champion i should make legendary and add to my lineup? Thanks

[placid dirge]

20-42 is the new problem lol @rugged marten

[rugged marten]

Your LB is much better than mine, E Lucius and 20 levels on crystal more than me @placid dirge

[placid dirge]

@warm badge raine to legend

[light elm]

You don't have anyone beside raine it's the default choice

[glossy bane]

@rugged marten those are my only maulers. No real good ones for a third

[placid dirge]

@rugged marten ur wilders are better tho

[light elm]

Overlevel shem and put a level 1 mauler it will help more

[rugged marten]

@glossy bane Golus can work as a decent tank if you level him up some, and sometimes its better to throw away 1 space to overall have an increase in power for your main team, than a hero thatll die just as fast as a level 1 @glossy bane

[warm badge]

why would i make raine legend? makes no sense, hogan is way better? isnt he

i have sav... i dont think raine si nessecary

[rugged marten]

Same level Lyca, 1 higher on Nem and 1 higher on Tasi, so actually, yours aren't worse as you also have a Mythic Ulmus and L+ Serius

[light elm]

@warm badge your hogan is already legend. Raine is a support. She's very good with belinda

[rugged marten]

@warm badge because Raine can go Ascended and her bounty is amazing for your carry to have, Hogan falls off quickly and becomes irrelevant

[warm badge]

okay

[rugged marten]

You are using 2 tanks already anyways, so why use Hogan as well? That also plays a part in decision making @warm badge

[placid dirge]

@rugged marten I thought you had an ascended ulmus guess I was wrong oops

[rugged marten]

I'd say we're at a similar stage with our Wilders, you're 1 Nem from being the same as mine

[placid dirge]

My ulmus and lyca are ready to be ascended as well

Ulmus almost a star

[light elm]

Ulmus any good when ascended?

[placid dirge]

When the new heros come out I'm blowing all my summons maybe then I'll have ascended wilder maybe

Ulmus has deep roots which is amazing and the rocks he throws are great

[pale kettle]

Should I reset 2 people to get enough dust to make saveas 121?

help

[placid dirge]

@pale kettleyou reset you cant send saveas up

[pale kettle]

@placid dirge why??

[placid dirge]

@pale kettlejust the way the game works

[pale kettle]

@placid dirge I would level them back to 100, just not 101 lol

[light elm]

Can't have more than 40 level difference
100 works, but I personally feel 101 is a huge boost. Don't know why but it feels that way when I play

[rugged marten]

Need a level 100 crystal to 121 Saveas

[pale kettle]

I’m sitting on 1300 dust. If I reset two and take them back to 100, it would give me the extra dust needed to make saveas 121. Or I can wait, or I can make my 5th crystal 101

[ocean shell]

@pale kettle I'd go for the 121 saveas

[rugged marten]

@pale kettle piling resources into your carry is usually the best thing to do

[uneven shadow]

@silent terrace thanks for the help I cleared that wave

[fervent coyote]

stop spamming if you haven't even tried what I said

[open mural]

Hogan higher than everyone else? And where's the E+ Belinda you get at the beginning?

[warm badge]

@rugged marten okay makes sense, ill get raine legendary then

[zinc token]

Help please

[open mural]

Reset hogan and Belinda and get saveas up

[fervent coyote]

@open mural rip belinda

[open mural]

F

[zinc token]

What do you mean

[fervent coyote]

hogan vs gb gets absolutely toasted

[open mural]

Did you sacrifice the Belinda from the beginning to get hogan up to legendary? @zinc token

[fervent coyote]

I already gave him a very plausible team so it's up to him

[open mural]

Wrong person

[lethal coral]

Got stuck @ 6-24. Any advice on how to improve my team?

[warm badge]

@rugged marten

[open mural]

Oof

[fresh marsh]

Help

[placid dirge]

@warm badge no bad down boy

[haughty token]

Dont kill Arden!

[warm badge]

I have a refular elite ulmus also

[rugged marten]

@warm badge keep Arden and don't use Ulmus as food either

[fervent coyote]

bye ulmus

[placid dirge]

@warm badge doesnt matter dont do that

[open mural]

Ulmus fodder bet

[zinc token]

:x this dont work too

[rugged marten]

@warm badge you'll need 8 of him to max him to Ascended, then another 10 of him to get 5 stars on him, once you hit a level 240 resonating crystal, every ascended hero matters, as every single one increases the level cap by 5 levels for each one you have

[zinc token]

I hate my heroes... -.-

[fervent coyote]

it's a miracle you got that far

[open mural]

Reset Belinda and hogan and invest into saveas @zinc token

[fervent coyote]

try to ascend sav

[zinc token]

Who gonna be in the 5 pentagram tho

[lethal coral]

I'd be grateful for some feedback on my previous post ._.

[open mural]

Level them back to 100 or 101 if you can but just invest into saveas

[zinc token]

I see

[fervent coyote]

@lethal coral no morvus use tasi or thane

[restive burrow]

Tips for a newbie?

[zinc token]

Can you tell me the positions and lineup on the stage?

[coral solar]

@restive burrow just play until you have more heroes

[lethal coral]

uh, but will Thane even work as a second laner? Isn't he melee?

[fervent coyote]

Thane is dps backline is fine

[coral solar]

And youll be able to ascend your heroes to make em stronger and lvl up @restive burrow

[keen cedar]

As a fairly noob newbie, can anyone provide any advice for my current units? Not sure if i should be focuing one unit or continuing to keep even

[still oar]

@restive burrow only level up 5 heroes. U could resonate the rest

[fierce kayak]

@keen cedar focus on saveas

[restive burrow]

Are any of these trash that I shouldn’t take up as part of the 5?

[keen cedar]

How high to push him before going back to the others @fierce kayak ?

[coral solar]

@keen cedar depends some ppl will tell you focus on savaes, for my part I never used savaes and it got me far enough

[quaint light]

@keen cedar Always 20 lvl above the other. For example right now reset everyone to 61 and pump sav to 81. When everyone else catches up to 81, you push sav to 101.

[placid dirge]

@coral solarhow you been

[coral solar]

Good @placid dirge hbu

[rugged marten]

Saveas is the most convenient, that's why he is recommended to be used

[keen cedar]

Thanks for the help everyone! I'll work on that now

[coral solar]

@rugged marten not the only option though

[rugged marten]

For sure, but not many heroes can essentially carry to chapter 15 without hitting above level 160

[placid dirge]

@coral solar beat the level was stuck on with the same line up just upgraded my gear a bit

[fierce kayak]

@keen cedar Ya 20 levels @quaint light is right

[coral solar]

@placid dirge that’s nice, let me guess your stuck again now lol

[placid dirge]

@coral solar kinda but havent tried ridiculous combos yet

[coral solar]

@rugged marten it depends cause if you don’t have anyone to protect savaes like for myself, hes useless lol

[rugged marten]

To some degree, yes, but then again, if you have no frontline that can handle the enemies, then you won't be able to progress much anyway due to team getting picked off and then your strongest heroes having to deal with 2v5 etc. Right away

[coral solar]

Right it depends on a lot of factors

[zinc token]

@open mural thank you! I somehow got pass it

[rugged marten]

For sure, but it is a similar reason why Shemira and Wilder trio is meta, its one of the most effective and convenient strategies to use, as Shem and Nemora are both in lab store so guaranteed pulls

[fierce kayak]

Btw guys, why less tanky hero is better position at no. 2?

[teal moat]

hey @rugged marten who would say i'd put against an estrilda ?

@fierce kayak cause he'll take hits only from two mobs instead of 3 i believe

[coral solar]

Brutus athalia @teal moat

[fierce kayak]

@teal moat but I noticed my position 4 hits opposition position 2.. haha

[tranquil hill]

Any advice for 11-12? I can sometimes get it down to saveas and ira

[rugged folio]

@tranquil hill i d go arden to get some cc

[rugged marten]

@teal moat Nemora works well vs Estrilda, but Arden is also a worry in there, I'd say try
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
Shem
Nem, if you have them

[coral solar]

Id say mirael instead of khasos @tranquil hill

[rugged marten]

No, Khasos synergises extremely well with Sav

@tranquil hill see how Lyca helps your team out instead of Belinda, initial haste is amazing on her, also try Sav up top, not bottom due to Nemora charms, you'll just need to worry about Ogi throws

[tranquil hill]

Yea I use khasos for the lifesteal on saveas, and the only spot Arden works for me is where saveas is, so he can root and not get stunned by ogi, but then nemora lives to wreck me

[rugged marten]

@tranquil hill Put Lucius up top too, his shield grants physical immunity while Brutus gets magic immunity

[gentle seal]

Got stuck in 9-28 any help ?

[rugged folio]

@tranquil hill i did it with

arden tasi
lyca.
saves brutus

[fierce kayak]

@rugged marten can I ask you why less tanky heroes position at no. 2? Cos my position 4 hero seems to be hitting opponent position 2..

[coral solar]

I mean your team is pretty solid @tranquil hill but if it doesn’t work try new things, move heroes around etc

[nimble fossil]

Uh...I’m stuck.

[wintry zealot]

Hardcore stuck......

[rugged marten]

@fierce kayak it's most forward hero, so if you have a Brutus and a Shemira, Brutus will be more forward so 3 enemies will aggro onto Brutus while Shem will only get aggro from 2 of them

[coral solar]

Im there too @wintry zealot

[rugged folio]

@wintry zealot i d swap bel to sav

[fierce kayak]

@rugged marten noted. Tks

[tranquil hill]

Yea I been trying many different things :p tried it like 1000 times, and sadly I’ve never pulled tasi or nemora 😦 but I’m tryin

[rugged marten]

The issue for his Sav, is that it's only 128 so can't be 141'd, which means his dps will be drastically lower

[proper hinge]

Any help

[nimble fossil]

I need to know what formation I need to use

[half cloud]

what is the best comp i can create? (i can reset exp)

[rugged folio]

@rugged marten still better in that team comp than bellinda on same lvl

[coral solar]

Thoughts?

[rugged marten]

Yeah true, Belinda breaks the faction bonus too, just noticed @rugged folio

[rugged folio]

@coral solar well u are quite underpowered i d go 3 wilders sav and luci

[fierce kayak]

@rugged marten but my position 4 heroes wont always hit opponent position 1 right? Sometimes it hits opponet position 2?

[rugged marten]

@half cloud depends on enemy team composition, there's no way anyone can say these 5 are your best because there's too much variation in stages, 1 stage might take Wilders with their CC while 3 stages later might need Ferael fear and energy reduction and then 2 stages might be Brute force from Maulers etc.

[rugged folio]

@coral solar i suggest u to reset belinda and nemora and get luci and sav leveled

[proper hinge]

Anyone got any help for me

[half cloud]

@rugged marten can i show where im stuck?

[coral solar]

@rugged folio Lucius is capped at 140

[rugged folio]

@fierce kayak they always hit the closest target

[zinc token]

Lol do i need to afk now?

[fierce kayak]

@rugged folio tks, so it depends right? Whoever is more forward

[coral solar]

I tried with savaes 155 and still not helping lol @rugged folio

[teal moat]

@rugged marten i dont have lyca 😒 (got the rest though, arden L only)

[half cloud]

@rugged marten

[rugged marten]

@fierce kayak it always depends on the team set up, for example

[rugged folio]

@coral solar i went chap12 with 160 sav 121 arden lyca nemora brutus/lucius

[rugged folio]

@zinc token i suggest u to try lucius saves tasi arden nemora

[coral solar]

Is there really much difference between lvl 155-160

[slate mason]

I think i need a new dps guys but idk who to switch to

[coral solar]

Kaz is good @slate mason or savaes

[fierce kayak]

@rugged marten thanks for the detailed explanation. Can I assume it's the size of the hero? Like Brutus more big size than lyca for examole

[rugged folio]

[slate mason]

Ill give kaz a shot, savaes didnt seem to perform well when I tried him, maybe cuz he isnt elite+ yet

[rugged marten]

@half cloud Ferael, Shem and Thoran shine late game, but until that hits, they're not the best, LB and Wilders are much stronger early game heroes, Maulers too, you want your Brutus to face the enemy Saveas because he can tank vs Saveas the best

@fierce kayak Lyca does her inspire thing so is always further back thanmost heroes, if Shem was in front, then it would be top 2 target her and bottom 3 target Brutus, I believe Lucius gains extra aggro vs Brutus too, becuase he is further forwards

[fierce kayak]

@rugged marten Ya. Thanks 👌

[coral solar]

@slate mason kaz carried me all the way through

[unique python]

If you want to use saveas, you want him to be a couple of levels above your other heroes

[rugged marten]

Kaz is a viable carry, her dodge makes her a nightmare to face, especially when she can counterattack the backline with her dodges too

[kindred silo]

I hate going against Kaz

[slate mason]

Hmm.. kaz is one of my first to die, both in tower and story

[quaint light]

@slate mason Did you use belinda to L hogan?

[slate mason]

No i dont have belinda yet

[still oar]

Your kaz is too low. Need higher eveade. She damages with her evade

[quaint light]

@slate mason Try 81 all your units, then put the rest on saveas. Place hogan and sav at the top spot while estrilda and fawkes at the btm.

[frigid veldt]

Stuck here. I've run it a ton to see if some RNG magic can give Sav the time he needs to wipe the floor and no luck. Suggestions?

[slate mason]

Ill give that a try, i get belinda after reset tomorrow

[still oar]

@frigid veldt flank them. Put sav back top

[half cloud]

@rugged marten so the best comp for This level is:
Thane
Estrilda
Belinda
Brutus
Saveas?

[still oar]

Try tasi Bru
Sav Arden khasos @frigid veldt

[rugged marten]

@half cloud well Thane is a late game dps, Estrilda is a late game support hero, Brutus and Saveas have phenomenal early-mid game potential and Brutus follows into the late game with ease, Belinda is somewhere in the middle, I'd recommend going to #550491326479728650 and checking out the tier list in there, I feel its relatively accurate myself

[slate mason]

Ugh i wish i could level saveas to 101... stuck at 100 cuz of ascension :(

[quaint light]

You could hope for rng by switching arden over angelo and reset until he roots sav+brutus non stop.

[frigid veldt]

@still oar hahaha wow that did it first time.

[old egret]

Anyway to beat this for me? I get really close to a 1 hp Brutus and the two back line :/

[junior meadow]

Recommendations?

[slate mason]

@simm haha i did what @quaint light said to do for saveas except used kaz and broke all the way through to stage 7 :D

[fierce kayak]

@old egret why u place dps in front? Try Hogan swap with fawkers. Arden/tasi can replace mireal for CC

@old egret Belinda behind estilda

[stiff shore]

What's the best lineup for 9-20?

[nimble fossil]

I need help. What formation should I use for this? Two Saveas’s on the enemy team might be trouble..

[blissful comet]

Am I just waiting for levels n ascencions here guys

[rugged marten]

@nimble fossili feel like you just need levels honestly, Ferael I would advise against using early though as he shines above level 200, but being as he's your only L, I can see why you use him

[hasty dawn]

any suggestions

[nimble fossil]

I need to ascend my other heroes to level them up more..

@rugged marten Then I’m possibly fucked

[rugged marten]

Will just take time, don't sweat it, we all have points where we can only sit back and accumulate diamonds to summon

[crisp thorn]

Floor 109

[somber hemlock]

9/4 need help

[next lava]

Pls Can someone help?

[proper hinge]

I need help

[still oar]

@next lava bru Hogan
Ira sav Arden/khasos

@somber hemlock bru lyca
Nem Arden sav

[rugged marten]

@signal canopy who are the 3 Maulers in the third row?

[next lava]

@still oar thx

[still oar]

I could try it luck with rng and bet on nem charm or I could try
Bru lyca
Arden khasos sav @somber hemlock

[somber hemlock]

hmm

[signal canopy]

Brutus skreg numisu

[rugged marten]

Swap out Thoran for Brutus and Vedan or Hogan for Numisu @signal canopy

[somber hemlock]

@still oar holy it worked tysm man

[rugged marten]

Also put Saveas either top or bottom, don't have him in the middle, he is better to focus on 1 side alone @signal canopy

[crisp thorn]

floor 109

[rugged marten]

@crisp thorn backline Nemora, frontline Brutus

[jagged wedge]

switch nemore n brutus

[crisp thorn]

@rugged marten ty

[solemn crane]

Is it normal that I can’t even get to 20% at the peaks of time stage from 10-04 even though i’m already at 11-16?

[ember nebula]

Suggestions?

[rugged marten]

@solemn crane some PoT levels are very hard to beat right away, have patience and some rng luck with your relic choices and you'll beat most after a while

@ember nebula who tanks better for you? Hogan or Golus? Swap one for Khasos, Saveas needs his life leech honestly

[ember nebula]

Golus has done okay but i have used hogan since start until i switch to saveas as a focua

Guess ill keep hogan so i can switch in khasos so i dont loose faction bonus?

[coral solar]

Nice @slate mason

Anyone?

[ember nebula]

@rugged marten still cant beat it guess ill need to afk level the tanks

[still oar]

@coral solar lyca luc
Arden Bel/dps athalia

[ember nebula]

Ascension suggestions?

[still oar]

@ember nebula hold lb for I more fodder so I could ascend he or she to e+ and GB Silvina

[quaint lynx]

Lineup help? New and not sure who to invest in and what not. Been playing for like 3 days and Seirus is my best so far so perhaps a lineup that he would be good in? I'm open to suggestions.

[ember nebula]

So what i got out of that is ascend silvina but hold off on the lb but to ascend who? @still oar

[tall wing]

Guys how should I line up?

[still oar]

@ember nebula oh wait you have 1 e Hogan. Make Hogan e+ now. Use the old guys as fodders

[crystal axle]

Can someone help me make the best line up

[ember nebula]

K thanks @still oar

[rugged marten]

Depends on enemy lineup, that can change your best team a lot, but for general I'd recommend, Brutus, Saveas, Lucius, Belinda and Maybe Thane/Estrilda but the last 2 are late game heroes so not the best, but good for your tram faction bonus @crystal axle

[crystal axle]

Thnx ; D

[shell harness]

Recommendation?

[tall wing]

@rugged marten can you help me with mine please , I have posted above

[still oar]

@tall wing u don't post ur roos doc

[shell harness]

With fawkes in the line of course. I just didn’t update my line up

[tall wing]

@still oar what do you mean sorry?

[rugged marten]

@tall wing post like this

[still oar]

@tall wing make it

So people can help u

[idle path]

Best lineup for wrizz? So close to 10mil each time can't seem to hit it

[whole palm]

@tall wing brutes ( vedan or hogan depends in their def) sevas nemor (estril or belinda for buff )

[rugged marten]

@idle path go LB buff team with Shemira and Brutus

[shell harness]

Luke what do you recommend for my chapter?

[idle path]

@rugged marten I'll try it thanks

[crystal axle]

Cant seem to win so need a good formation should I drop thane for estrilda? Help meh ples @rugged marten

[tall wing]

@still oar here

[outer iris]

Hello , wishlisht is coming and i don't know what to go for (I would like to have Shemira , Brutus , Lucius in my team)

[quaint lynx]

Lineup help? New and not sure who to invest in and what not. Been playing for like 3 days and Seirus is my best so far so perhaps a lineup that he would be good in? I'm open to suggestions.

[rugged marten]

@shell harness aim for 3 of 1 faction at least, who is the Mauler in the third row? Under Raine's icon, I'd recommend 3 Mauler, Sav Brutus and that other Mauler (if Khasos or Numisu) and then Lucius and Nemora

[outer iris]

Wrong pic sorry

[rugged marten]

@crystal axle Saveas and Brutus up top, Brutus can only tank vs enemy Sav decent, all others will get melted, try Estrilda, btw drop all your heroes apart from 5 to level 1 and use them in the resonating crystal, so you have more focused resources, and they're not spread thin

@outer iris I'd recommend Brutus, Sav, Khasos, Lucius and Nemora, see how that goes, keep your Sav away from the enemy Sav so your Sav doesn't get collapsed on

[still oar]

@tall wing
What is the power diff. I got this feeling that ur level too low
Hogan ath
Tasi/nem Bel bru

[idle path]

@rugged marten 10.2mil thanks 😁

[rugged marten]

Awesome @idle path Raine, Estrilda, Belinda and Warek are amazing for Wrizz, especially if you got a Shemira as your main carry

[amber bay]

Looking for any help with a decent line up

[tall wing]

@still oar think this is okay?

[knotty plinth]

Any tips for lineup

[still oar]

@tall wing try. But I believe silvina would kill bel

[rugged marten]

@tall wing who does Silvina target? Put that hero above Brutus so Silvina gets stuck on him while your Saveas can try and deal with Niru and Golus, I'd recommend swapping Nemora out for Khasos too, you wanna try and keep a faction bonus for your team

[tall wing]

Silvina targets middle champ or Nemora

[knotty plinth]

Silvina targets Nemora for me

[still oar]

@tall wing try faction bonus I should win the fight with the power diff

[quaint lynx]

Silvana targets the lowest def target.

[rugged marten]

Take Nemora out and put Belinda up top then, Khasos in for a 3-2 faction bonus so more health and attack on everyone, life leech for team too

Silvina targets the mage with the lowest defence, if no mages present, she targets the hero with the lowest defence

[tall wing]

Yeah I took Nemora out and put Belinda on top, she still got wrecked 🤣

[still oar]

@tall wing athalia Hogan
Bru sav nem

[rugged marten]

By who? Who is the biggest issue?

[tall wing]

Silvana, just wrecks Nemora or Belinda

[rugged marten]

You have to get used to that, usually with Silvina, you have to use a sacrifice hero

[tall wing]

@still oar tried that, still getting absolutely wrecked 🤣

[quaint lynx]

New and not sure who to invest in and what not. Been playing for like 3 days and Seirus is my best so far so perhaps a lineup that he would be good in? I'm open to suggestions.

[rugged marten]

@tall wing but who is the biggest issue? Surely silivina isn't getting a rampage every single time, post a battle stats SS please

[still oar]

Damn

[tall wing]

@rugged marten

[knotty plinth]

Can you please help me with a line up

[stiff shore]

Can I get some help with 9-29

[rugged marten]

Right Isabella is doing work, maybe swap the set up around, put Belinda bottom with Brutus in front and Saveas up top, see if you can deal with Brutus to get to Isabella @tall wing

@stiff shore take out Ulmus and Shemira, our in Saveas and Khasos, out Saveas in the crystal, and try Lyca instead of Nemora

[tall wing]

@rugged marten tried it, Silvina shreds Belinda then the damage is pretty much equal out to my team

[rugged marten]

@tall wing you might just need levels then, Silvina is a huge issue in a lot of levels so you need to find a way to deal with her, I dealt with it by unequipping everything on Brutus and only running no mages

[main summit]

Any help on whcih 5 to use plus am i leveling them right

[tall wing]

I think I'll have to wait till my team is a bit stronger or higher leveled, I swapped Belinda for Nemora and I lasted longer, Brutus died but the others gradually got beat

[rugged marten]

Then, once I switched to Shem carry, I changed it so that I'd bait her onto a mage I needed the least, to protect my other mages @tall wing

[tall wing]

You took off all equipment for Brutus?

[knotty plinth]

@rugged marten can you please help me with my line up

[waxen thunder]

Sould I use ezizh?

[quaint lynx]

Lineup help? New and not sure who to invest in and what not. Been playing for like 3 days and Seirus is my best so far so perhaps a lineup that he would be good in? I'm open to suggestions.

[rugged marten]

@knotty plinth sent you a pm reply

[quaint lynx]

👀

[sharp vortex]

Any help beating this stage?

[worthy ocean]

Stuck on floor 90

[shell harness]

It worked. Thanks! @rugged marten

[rugged marten]

Np 👍

@worthy ocean try swapping Thane for Saveas

@quaint lynx I'd focus on getting a Saveas ascended up as quickly as you can, without using any ascended heroes (like Khasos and Warek) his damage should get your through a lot of stages with enough patience

[quaint lynx]

So ignore the other heroes I have for the time being til then?

[amber bay]

Line up help

[potent oar]

Help please 😊

[rugged marten]

@quaint lynx check out #550491326479728650 and look at the tier list, focus on the midgame heroes for now, 61-160, that's a good start

[quaint lynx]

Will do thanks for the help

[rugged marten]

@potent oar take out Shemira, she cannot frontline until she is overlevelled, and at least 161, try Saveas, Brutus, Lucius, Belinda and Khasos, lemme know how it goes, Saveas to focus on bottom and Brutus to delay the enemy Saveas for as long as possible

[worthy ocean]

@rugged marten no luck :/

[rugged marten]

Try swapping Estrilda out for Nemora, to charm the enemy Estrilda, Saveas up top still and just keep trying until Estrilda takes Nemora's charm, if Nem doesn't charm before Estrilda charge, try putting your best boots on her and see if that makes any difference

[fallen olive]

Think ill be stuck for moment lol

[quaint light]

@fallen olive Have you tried swapping sav position with tasi?

[quaint light]

Keep trying until tasi haste sav

[slate mason]

Finally managed to ascend Saevas, been close for ages... Should I replace Kaz with him? Do I need to make other changes too if so?

[potent oar]

@rugged marten Ends up with saveas against saveas and time runs out 😂

[dire sentinel]

Need advice please on getting past 3.36 if anyone can help

[fallen olive]

Yup, team falls over too fast and saveas doesnt kill fast enough, think some 4-5 levels will solve it

[pale kettle]

can i see all of your characters @slate mason

[haughty token]

11-40, I'm told this team worked for a friend in a similar situation, but not for me. Suggestions?

[rugged marten]

@potent oar might just need to rng a lucky crit, I know I've probably had to wait for that for a good 30 stages In total 😂😂

[worthy ocean]

@rugged marten keep Belinda mid?

[rugged marten]

@worthy ocean Belinda bottom, Nem middle, you want Saveas to keep up top and Nem to have Estrilda in her charm range (which is usually 1 above and 1 below at most)

[glossy bane]

I’m assuming I just need to afk farm till I can level more? Golus is there for the faction bonus since Arden dies just as fast

[slate mason]

@pale kettle

[quaint light]

@glossy bane Get brutus to 61.

[rugged marten]

@glossy bane put Brutus vs Brutus, Shemira isn't ideal at your stage yet, and as he said, you need Brutus 61 so he gets his ladt grasp

[potent oar]

@rugged marten 😁

[rugged marten]

@potent oar grats

[glossy bane]

@rugged marten I was told to power level Shem first. She’s pretty much been carrying every stage

[potent oar]

@rugged marten used this Line-Up

[slate mason]

Shem is much better late game than early

[south loom]

Any team recommendations/who to ascend? I currently use saveas brutus khasos numisu and nemora. I have lab coins available too. Currently on 9-20

[glossy bane]

Even then, Brutus dies very fast even if I put him vs the other Brutus.

[south loom]

I have lab coins to buy a hero as well

[quaint light]

Your brutus is 59, read up what 61 will give you @glossy bane

[rugged marten]

No, that is incorrect, Shemira is a god, but she needs level 161 to be able to do so, her Ult constantly heals her at that levl so she can tank a lot, the general meta is before 161, Saveas is the king carty, after 161, Shemira is the queen carry @glossy bane

[glossy bane]

@rugged marten so should I not use her entirely? I still need to get all my heroes on pentagram to 60 before I can go past 80

[rugged marten]

@glossy bane I didn't touch my Shemira until 14-28, then I dropped Saveas and power levelled Shemira to 161 with a 141 crystal, that is the point Shem is your best bet usually

[pale kettle]

@rugged marten mind jelp me out brother

[dusty lintel]

Who to reso?

[slate mason]

Im not sure who to replace for saveas, besides making him my 101

[pale kettle]

Tried several thing nothing seems to work lol.. once i get arden L . Im thinking about brutus hogan arden nemora and saveas

[rugged marten]

@slate mason either Estrilda or Shemira, you don't really need them until later

@pale kettle okay lemme have a look

[glossy bane]

@rugged marten this doesn’t work too well either. Do I just have to afk until I can level everyone else more?

[rugged marten]

@pale kettle who does Fawkes trap? Nemora would probably be a better hero to use than him, try and charm Ogi so put her in the middle or bottom

[pale kettle]

He traps the fire lady forgot her name as i dont use that b.tch

[clever bison]

11-40, final part. Any recommendations?

[rugged marten]

@glossy bane well you are vs heroes that are higher level than you, with a day afk, you should have enough to push Saveas up some levels to be able to give him enough health and attack to kill

@clever bison reset Belinda to 140 and put Saveas as 141, try Saveas, Brutus, Belinda, Mirael and Lucius

[clever bison]

Hm, no go.

[rugged marten]

Brutus top, Lucius bottom, Brutus has a magic immune and Lucius has a physical immune, use them

You need 141 crystal for Brutus as soon as possible too, which is a pain to get, but necessary sometimes to wait it out for, that 7 second immune is a crazy jump

[clever bison]

Brutus is still only Elite, not Elite+, not sure if he's still feasible at that level.

Tried again with suggestions, got demolished x_x

[rugged marten]

I still had an E Brutus until around chapter 13

[severe hazel]

Stuck at 9-35

[lusty sandal]

Should I make lucius or Belenda to mythic

[rugged marten]

@clever bison 141 crystal is honestly probably your best bet, while you're waiting on the dust, get Sav to 160, it's about a 30% increase in attack, and HP, which equates to more damage as his health scales his damage up

[glacial drift]

Need some help here.

[rugged marten]

@lusty sandal show your heroes and ill see if I can advise you correctly

@severe hazel you wanna frontline Brutus, Estrilda struggles to tank, try Brutus, Khasos, Lyca, Tasi and Kaz (see if Kaz can tank with her dodges)

@glacial drift Estrilda and Ulmus out, Saveas and Khasos in, who is the Mauler below your Elite Saveas in your hero list?

[severe hazel]

I think the main problem with kaz would be the lack of items tho

[glacial drift]

Warek.

[severe hazel]

So frontline Brutus and Khasos ?

[lusty sandal]

@rugged marten I can use mirel and make luscious or Belinda mythic

[rugged marten]

@lusty sandal I'd say Lucius if you are using him as a frontline, if not then go Belinda, if you're really struggling to decide, see if you can get any more copies to get that magic 8 for Ascended, then ascend accordingly, if there's no big rush

[severe hazel]

Kaz and Lyca get instantly killed, got no elite or rare equips for them

[rugged marten]

@severe hazel Khasos works better in backline to begin with if you can put him there because his axes interrupt, Lyca dying instantly isn't an issue because she is mainly just for initial haste and energy for everyone else, put her frontline if you wish to spare Khasos or Kaz a few extra seconds, see if that makes a difference, and if all else fails, afk to get more gear and levels and beat the stage with Brute force instead, you really could do with a Saveas honestly, Brutus and Khasos are perfect for hin

[severe hazel]

I used my elite+ saveas to make Khasos legendary lmao

[rugged marten]

Ouch 😂😂 that wasn't the best choice aha

[lusty sandal]

@rugged marten luwhat do you mean magic 8?

[rugged marten]

It takes 8 of the same hero to make a hero ascended
1 Elite
+1 for Elite+
+2 for Legendary+ (Elite+ food)
Then +4 for Ascended (2 Elite+ food)

Other ascension levels only require same faction heroes, not the exact same hero to upgrade

[severe hazel]

@rugged marten I got throught it with a rare+ Saveas, thanks lmao

[proud compass]

Any suggestions for mixing up or improving my lineup? 😃

[rugged marten]

Haha awesome @severe hazel

[vague ridge]

rip Saveas 🏳️

yeah put tasi in resonating crystal @proud compass

[rugged marten]

@proud compass personally I'd go with
Main team
Saveas
Brutus
Khasos

Then change in and out when applicable
Belinda and Lucius
Lyca and Nemora

Numisu is great to have with the Maulers too, he will grant haste and heals to Saveas, making him strong

Arden, get him up to L+ and 141 ASAP, he is the only L+ hero that has the potential to be viable until around chapter 22

[proud compass]

Waiting on a CD for that 😃

[vague ridge]

how do you write so fast luke skywalker 👀👀👍👌

[rugged marten]

Magic 😏 @vague ridge

[vague ridge]

i want too 😅

[muted forge]

Athalia vs Silvina for mid-game - I've been using elite athalia to good effect but just got Silvina to elite+ and she's rated higher than athalia on the tier list but she seems underwhelming. Am I missing something or does she need specific team/supports?

[dusk idol]

anyone having some lineup tips for me aswell? :D

[vague ridge]

@proud compass basically your uber dps team collapse when facing strong cc enemy.. where one lil Arden can root 3 enemies ať onec and be able to let your team win. same goes for tasi and nemora all great cc

[muted forge]

To clarify I reset athalia and gave Silvina all her gear and xp but she doesn't seem to perform as well

[rugged marten]

@muted forge Athalia's main aspect that makes her good is being able to choose who you want to be singled out, great if there's a backline hero that is causing a lot of issues, like Nemora or Arden etc.

As for Silvina, she is okay as a carry but falls off very quickly due to getting overpowered honestly, she works better as a hero to delay an enemy mage, like Arden hitting you with some nasty cc

[nimble yew]

Hey! I just got Lucius. Rn I have Thoran and Ulmus. You think I should switch out?

[muted forge]

@rugged marten yeah, that's what I like about her. The tier list here https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list has her rated much lower so I don't know if it's inaccurate or situational

[rugged marten]

@dusk idol you're lacking decent tanks honestly, by the looks of it GB looks to be your strongest faction overall so I'd use Thoran and Grezhul as your main frontline, although much stronger tanks later on, theyll have to do for now. Ferael has great cc with his energy reduction, but again, he shines late game. Nemora and Saveas are perfect for you to use for now, Belinda Too, Hogan can also still tank to some degree, but not too well, so mix and match, see who does the best for you vs certain enemies

[modest dove]

all tier lists are pretty much just guidelines,even though i’m sure they have their reasons..btw this same tier list rates seirus pretty crap late game..can i ask why is he that bad?he has pretty decent cc but not sure about other aspects..

[cyan comet]

How to beat 19-8?

[rugged marten]

@nimble yew depends on who is the rest of your team, if you're running Wilders, take out Thoran and if running GB, take out Ulmus, neither are ideal tanks in the early game because they both shine later on, but Lucius definitely out lasses both of them for early game power and sustainability

@muted forge yeah, I don't think she's, too good due to the fact she falls off quickly in adventure becuase she's hard to ascend, but definitely worth having one to use to control fights a little better

[dusk idol]

@rugged marten ty a lot

[sharp escarp]

Help with my team? I super stucked at 6-28

[nimble yew]

@sharp escarp buddies because that’s where I am too lol

[muted forge]

@rugged marten thanks for your help 😊

[cyan comet]

Got stuck on both. Floor 207 and stage 19-8

[rugged marten]

@cyan comet tasi out, Nemora in

Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Shemira
Arden

You NEED Nemora to charm Ferael before he fears your team, that happens and its instant rip so restart, then you're gonna have to get a little lucky with Shem not getting ripped apart from Niru, so try switching between Dura's call and Dura's Drape on her, Duras Blade if she can deal with Niru, also be careful of the enemy Shemira silencing yours, it happens a surprising amount of the tine

[lament matrix]

10-36, any suggestions?

[slate mason]

Because there are mostly better supports than Estrilda, would you guys consider using her as fodder for another hero?

[rugged marten]

@cyan comet similar story with that, you need Nem to charm Ferael, Brutus vs Grez and Shem vs Niru with Arden in the middle this time

[nimble yew]

This is my lineup! Any suggestions?

[cyan comet]

@rugged marten thanks, so I put Shem vs Nirus?

[rugged marten]

@slate mason no, don't do that, Estrilda is one of the best heroes for support in Guild boss, and her interrupt can win games, I know, someone who beat quite a few 20+ stages with Estrilda because her charm and attack boost

@cyan comet yeah, Grez ult can cancel your Shems Ult, and I mean he knocks her up as she ults and it doesn't activate her Ult, Grez is one of the few heroes which seems to be able to do it, and it's annoying af 😂

[slate mason]

@nimble yew oh geez you should reset all ur heroes except the 5 ur using, all the rest can be boosted by crystal. Ull get better levels out of ur main heroes that way and push farther. Also id get rid of the tree guy in favour of Lucius

[delicate trout]

Howwww

[nimble yew]

Oh jeez sorry, I was leveling them up just a little bit because I thought it would help the bounty board stuff

[rugged marten]

@nimble yew yeah reset to only 5 heroes, means more resources for fewer heroes, which means stronger overall, doesn't help with bounty board, just their ascension levels help out with if

[modest dove]

help?stuck for the about a week+,any advice @rugged marten

[nimble yew]

So which ones of my elite purple guys are trash and should be reset?

[rugged marten]

@modest dove first pic isn't loading unfortunately but I'd try Saveas, Brutus, Lucius, Belinda and Raine as a guess

@nimble yew ideally the 5 highest ascended heroes (so Elite+ if you have them rather than elites etc.) due to their level cap being higher, any other heroes that you intend on using should go into the resonating crystal

[cyan comet]

@rugged marten I can’t beat it yet, but I can feel it’s working better. I need to level up my heroes more. Thanks for taking your time to write in-depth explanations

[rugged marten]

@modest dove it just loaded, can Sav kill Vedan before he ults?

[modest dove]

its the enemy line-up of 19-20,tried that but doesn’t work unfortunately..yes saveas can ard 50% of time

[steady shuttle]

9-28 is my current wall

[rugged marten]

@cyan comet no problem, general rule of thumb for them full GB teams is get Nem to charm Ferael out of his fear, becuase otherwise he'll rip you apart with his energy reduction, I think it took me a good 100 or so tries with the correct set up to get rng to work, ad I think my heroes were more or less exactly the same level as yours are currently

[nimble yew]

I’m gonna keep Skreg leveled in case but I reset everyone else I don’t need. (Goodbye diamonds)

[cyan comet]

@rugged marten I never thought about using Nemora before because my Nemora is leg+ and tasi is ascended

[modest dove]

@nimble yew use the tierlist given in #550491326479728650 to help u decide..choose 5 will do

[delicate trout]

@modest dove this is quite easy since your lineup smiliar to me, when i was on that stage, i use saveas to kill niru asap, then he can kill belinda, and try again until people doesn't die with vedan ults, if people survive, u will win, but... My saveas is lvl 130

[rugged marten]

@modest dove okay that's good, focus on killing Vedan first then, Brutus up top to try and counter Niru and Lucius below to frontline for Saveas, Belinda and Raine positions won't matter quite as much as you want to basically feed as many buffs into Saveas as possible, you look like you might need ascension levels, to progress much further though, which truly sucks

[delicate trout]

But @rugged marten is better than me, so listen to him haha

[rugged marten]

@cyan comet my Tasi and Lyca are still L+ and I'm on 21-4 😂 need level 200 crystal and 240 Shem before I can do anything though, so I'm stuck here for a good month probably

[cyan comet]

@rugged marten your advices are helpful. I already screenshot it for future reference. I know I’ll beat it soon or later with your formation. Lol

[rugged marten]

Haha don't worry, it'll come up, a lot more... 😂 @cyan comet

[frank sedge]

https://imgur.com/gallery/gYoYAVz

[modest dove]

ahhh yea,got tons of scrolls and gems saved waiting for update to drop nxt week..another week then..thanx @rugged marten & @delicate trout..in the meantime will follow ur advice!

[frank sedge]

Any advice for my line up posted above?

[rugged marten]

@modest dove I just noticed your diamonds, wait for the update and you should be able to get enough fodder to progress a crazy amount

[delicate trout]

@modest dove here's my line up to beat that stage few days ago, i dunno people here tell me to put arden in the frontline, but i win awkwardly

[rugged marten]

@frank sedge How long until you get Belinda? I'd recommend when you do to use Saveas, Numisu, Khasos, Hogan and Belinda, level up Saveas mroe than the rest of your team as he will be your main source of dps, Belinda is good for Buffing him, Numisu gives him haste and heals and Khasos grants him some life leech, which means Saveas dps can go through the roof

[steady shuttle]

[modest dove]

@rugged marten i hope so too thanx! @delicate trout okay thanx will try that lineup too!

[rugged marten]

@delicate trout sometimes, it's the weird strategies that work, in 20-58 or something, I flipped my entire team so my frontline was at back and backline was up front because the enemy team comp was so ridiculous, and It worked somehow

[lethal coral]

Can't beat this setup, no matter which lineup I'm using.

[frank sedge]

I'll be grabbing her tonight from the event. Thanks! @rugged marten

[nimble yew]

Vurk decided suddenly he was going to be elite+ after I reset him

[delicate trout]

@rugged marten agree with that, sensei

[lethal coral]

that sword-spinning derp is preposterously OP

[muted forge]

Just scored elite Lucius from a scroll! 😃

I'm thinking lineup - Lucius, Hogan front line; saveas, nemora and ? Back line

[nimble yew]

Oh well, now they are strong enough to wreck shop on the level I was stuck at— because my other agility hero is also elite+

[quaint light]

@muted forge Go with lucius/kaz/nemo/tasi/sav imo. Tasi sleep will buy enough time in between of luci shield and nemo heal.

[rugged marten]

@lethal coral I'd swap out Athalia, she is more to deal with backline enemies, that pose a huge threat, and put Lucius vs Brutus, the sword-spinning derp, Lucius has a physical immune ability, hopefully he can tank long enough to activate his Ult, but Hogan will get ripped to shreds by Brutus, an idea might be to try and use Tasi instead of Mirael or Estrilda if she banishes Brutus so you can make the fight 4v5, and eventually 1v5 if your team can handle the enemies

[still oar]

@muted forge
Luc lyca
Tasi nemora sav

[lethal coral]

@rugged marten Athalia is my only source of damage tbh. Lucius dies to Brutus, he doesn't live long enough to throw a shield ult.

[muted forge]

@quaint light Kaz on front line? Haven't used her yet because only recently got her, does her dodge work that well?

[still oar]

Not yet aza

[quaint light]

Yes she can tank with dodge, especially with all that cc and shield+heal, she'll do fine. I've used her before with that setup.

[rugged marten]

@muted forge try and strive for 3 of the same faction, but definitely Sav and Lucius is a good starting point for a team, Nemora had her charms and heals which pair nicely with Lucius, while Lyca has a haste and energy gain to begin the battle with, so she can be the difference between winning and losing, Tasi is good for her banish and sleep, if a certain enemy is really screwing you over, Athalia works nicely becuase she can single out a controlled enemy and has her celestial faction bonus, so easier to make a team with her, but she will fall off pretty quickly

[muted forge]

@still oar Lyca is about one I haven't tried much yet, might have to experiment with her and Kat to see what works best for me

[quaint light]

Try to find a guild that can fill up your lib, the buff will help a lot.

[rugged marten]

@lethal coral you need levels, then, you'll be surprised what 20 levels can do for your progress

[still oar]

Yes. U should. Try everything
😁

[muted forge]

I've got my library full, most teams have elite or legendary bonus. For leveling priority I've been going with sav and my other dps, should I now keep sav maxed and then Lucius?

[lethal coral]

@rugged marten Well, two of my 'main' heroes are 81 so I expected them to be able to do something with this wave. Alas, the outcome is always the same.

[rugged marten]

Aim for Legendary+ for library, that third level is huge @muted forge

[still oar]

@muted forge yes. Dps def then support

[rugged marten]

^

[muted forge]

Ok, I'll play around a bit. Thanks everyone 😃

[rugged marten]

Definitely try and get Mirael and Belinda up, Mirael can be very useful for the first few chapters and Belinda has buffs and permanent magic defence lower when she crits, which pairs nicely with her

[clever bison]

@rugged marten haha, I ended up repeating 11-40 over and over until I eventually got it. Ended up winning with Tasi, Lucius, Belinda, Ezizh, and surprisingly, Estrilda.

I'm on 12-8 now, going to get my first mythic in 3 hours from now (assuming it's a gear that I want) ❤

[rugged marten]

Congrats, and hopefully it is 👍 @clever bison

[pale flint]

Im stuck on 4-36 and idk who is worth swapping out and for whom. Any suggestions?

[severe hazel]

goddamn

[lethal coral]

is 99$ pack worth the price?

[woven grail]

Stuck at 8-20 how is my team?

[dusky sage]

I can't pass this boss

[muted forge]

Ok, Lucius/Lyca front, nemora/tasi/sav is an amazing combo, I'm carving through stuff so much easier now, thanks for the advice @rugged marten and @quaint light

[rugged marten]

@muted forge 👍

[flat condor]

My group is just a major AOE ultimate and pray

[lethal coral]

'Press X To Win'?

[lament matrix]

10-36, any suggestions?

[novel peak]

I've got a 10 pull for faction scrolls, what would be the best faction to pull from, and what would my best line up be right now? I'm currently running Brutus/Lucious, Saveas/Belinda/Raine

[coral solar]

@novel peak lightbreaker try aim for L+ belinda or Lucius

Since you’re almost there

[novel peak]

Yeah that's what I was thinking, just wasnt sure if going Wilder might be better and shifting my team to include tasi and nemora

[split bolt]

Lineup tips for secret of forest?

[bronze lintel]

Any formation advice would be wonderful

[coral solar]

Use wilder lol

[brittle summit]

6-39 is being a pain to get through. What should I do with my setup?

[idle thorn]

https://i.imgur.com/QbvNMTU.png
https://i.imgur.com/tCAFafw.png
Any help please

[scarlet kraken]

@brittle summit put mirael in the middle, u have to get to that savaes first to get rid of him.. he’s doing the most damage

[shut parrot]

Should i legend niru or vedan?

[unique rivet]

Where do I go to do that hero wishlist?

[shut parrot]

That update isnt live until next week @unique rivet

[pale kettle]

help me out here guys

[unique vapor]

Any advice?

[unique rivet]

Oh I thought it already was

[brittle summit]

Got through it and now up to Chapter 7.

[unique rivet]

What should my main go to characters be?

[tiny spoke]

gamers.. im having a bruh moment. can anyone assist

[sage lichen]

Should I overlevel Saveas or Shemira as carry? Full team at lvl 141/140 right now.

Both are legend+

[quaint light]

Sav until 160. Swap to shemira when she's 161.

[barren kayak]

I'm stuck on 9-36 I need help

[bright root]

should i replace khas with belina+?

[amber bay]

Line up help?

[frigid veldt]

Stuck at 11-18. Tried every line up I could think of and nothing so far. Suggestions?

[fair pumice]

Who should i ascend?

[final horizon]

Is it worth making Hogan legend+?

@fair pumice I would have to see what else you have to help

[inner seal]

@fair pumice mirael imo, then get her 40 lv higher then the rest
@final horizon seeing your line up then the answer is yes

[crisp snow]

Any advice thinking of resetting shemora and distributing levels but how should I do it ?

[final horizon]

Putting more into silvina helped me out a lot early game

[inner seal]

@crisp snow you're doing everything right, best to put your carry 40 lv higher but you're doing shit proper

[crisp snow]

@inner seal do u reccomend any changes ? or keep levelign shemora also do u think i should wait till waitlist or pull have enough for roughly 70 summons

[burnt flax]

Hi guys i am stuck at 6-24 . Been waiting for materials. Wondering if i need to reconfig my current team. Shemira and Vedan frontline Ardan Iras Tasi backline

[inner seal]

@crisp snow shemira aint a good carry early on, try running saveas or mirael

[fair pumice]

Im afraid of not having enough units if i feed then away for graveborn, this?

[final horizon]

@fair pumice I would use Morvus and Angelo to make someone else legendary

[crisp snow]

@inner seal how would u make the switches to my current LU ?

[idle thorn]

https://i.imgur.com/uROozsb.png
https://i.imgur.com/IcZ8Ue9.png
Any ideas?

[inner seal]

@crisp snow you dont have anything to change with, unless you summon something, that line up is the best you could do

[crisp snow]

mhm okay cool thanks

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn flip brutus and lucius

[pale kettle]

Build help?

[rich rapids]

Who should I ascend? Or keep em till I get another less rare drop?

[final horizon]

@rich rapids I would say it depends on who you use the most

[wicked lily]

Any setup ideas?

[loud dagger]

@wicked lily swap positions saveas and fawkes then try again

[idle thorn]

Thanks it worked! @placid dirge

[wicked lily]

@loud dagger siv is onehitting shema and saveas 👀

[loud dagger]

Wait what ?!

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn same as my team pretty much so easy to help lol

[mint spruce]

@wicked lily try switching Belinda and hogan for a match

[loud dagger]

Silvina will target that belinda

Silvina likes mages with low armor

Especially belinda will just melt cuz

[wicked lily]

Y, thats why i have shem in front ant two supports

[fervent coyote]

put sav behind shem

[wicked lily]

But she gets that overshield

[loud dagger]

Probably he have problems with gears

[idle thorn]

@placid dirge https://i.imgur.com/f4b1gdx.png

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn

[wicked lily]

Ther're all purple

[idle thorn]

I meant whatcha think for this one 😂

[loud dagger]

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn never put brutus against brutus Belinda is dead meat try lucius brutus fawkes saveas belinda

[idle thorn]

Like this? https://i.imgur.com/iWeGve2.png

[placid dirge]

Yes

[idle thorn]

Everyone just get's instantly wiped :\

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn I just realized your under leveled ok try. Lucius brutus Belinda fawkes saveas pocket the power

[pale kettle]

u just gotta level up ur guys then. lvl up sil and ur guys can break 141

[idle thorn]

Ill give it a go, and unfortunately I dont have the essence for the 5th 141

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn patients it will come

[brittle summit]

Now stuck on 7-8

[idle thorn]

Yeah same outcome with the other setup, I guess I will need to upgrade before continuing...

[pale kettle]

@brittle summit upgrade ur lvl 85 guys, nice setup

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn your team is very promising in my eyes

[idle thorn]

Anything else I should try before giving up? Swap out any characters or anything?

[placid dirge]

@idle thorn no your team is doing great being that under powered keep it going

[idle thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQZsjsC5C18

Hold up, this dude got lucky as hell

[pine orbit]

Okay, I need to know who to pentagram and who to form a lineup. Currently using Thoran and Hogan as tanks, Shemira and Fawks for DPS.

Chapter 5 currently

3 Pentagram slots

[burnt flax]

Hi guys i am stuck at 6-24 . Been waiting for materials. Wondering if i need to reconfig my current team. Shemira and Vedan frontline Ardan Iras Tasi backline
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/578752791921688586/image0.png

[gilded fractal]

ik i cant pass this lvl im just sad LOL

[idle thorn]

You can pass with Brutus

Fawkes
Lucious
Belinda
Brutus
Seavas

[thin carbon]

hmmm.

[sonic lily]

Team comp help? I'm currently at 9-31.

[timid stratus]

Which team comp or hero changes should I do

[sonic lily]

@timid stratus I would get your level 100s to 101, it will make a big difference

[timid stratus]

@sonic lilythey all already are

[unique rivet]

What heroes should I have for my main line?

[idle thorn]

Please be sure to send updated levels, so you can get updated advice 😃

[sonic lily]

Yeah, an updated screenshot will allow us to help you fully my guy

[timid stratus]

@sonic lily also

[idle thorn]

Add Athalia to the crystal so you can get higher than level 100, if you actually want to use her

[sonic lily]

^ take Nemora out and replace with Athelia in the crystal

It will be a one day CD if your crystal is full

[idle thorn]

My humble and personal opinion, Athalia is pointless until late game.

https://i.imgur.com/ltyWTCD.png That's why she stays level 1 for me :x

[sonic lily]

Also, is the map you sent a picture of from Peaks of Time ? If so, you will need your team to be around 120 to do it nicely.

I agree with Matt, you have an E+ Belinda just chilling. I'd consider her. And a Shemira. Can you send me your updated team levels? You have good heros, just need to optimize

[idle thorn]

@unique rivet It really depends on what you're up against, I am going to look and get my best opinion on it

[sonic lily]

Demon dude and Lucius front line. Saveas, Belinda, Shemira backline. If that isn't working get your Arden leveled up a bit and replace Shemira

[unique rivet]

kk

[covert cave]

I just got tasi, should I reset anyone or put her in the crystal? kinda wanna yeet nemora

[idle thorn]

@unique rivet Unfortunately you currently do not have any game changing characters but I would strongly consider throwing your Belinda and Seavas in the lineup.
Hope and pray that you get a brutus some day

[thin carbon]

all these op people asking for lineup help makes me feel less lame for also wanting to ask for lineup help 🕶

[sonic lily]

@covert cave reset shotgun grandpa/Belinda for tasi. Depends on who you use for your team

[idle thorn]

@unique rivet Also at your level I was using Mirael quite a bit, she was pretty great for me

[sonic lily]

@thin carbon post away my dude I enjoy helping, especially when I am stuck myself

[idle thorn]

@unique rivet Keep taking advantage of Shemira and Arden and until you get a Brutus, just keep using Hogan for a tank. I can't speak for Warek, as I never use him but everything else looks like a really solid lineup

[thin carbon]

#roastme
stuck on 3-36 atm ripcomfy

[idle thorn]

@thin carbon I mean it's obvious that you just started and already have a solid set. Keep on moving along and you'll get up there one day

Send me the enemy lineup for 3-36 and I can try and help

[sour plinth]

its getting impossible for me

[pale rover]

@thin carbon Hogan Thoran Isabella Arden (get him to elite) Saveas (great carry) Silvina/Vedan (team faction bonus).

[idle thorn]

@sour plinth Have you tried swapping Brutus and Lucius?

[sour plinth]

yes, i guess im just too under leveled

[pale kettle]

Brutus the only hero stopping me 🙃

[sour plinth]

@pale kettle don;t worry you will fight more brutus in the future

[sonic lily]

@pale kettle try using Ira instead of musician dude

[pale kettle]

I know 😂

And alright thx

[thin carbon]

@pale rover how would one get arden to elite? i was able to get him rare+ through ascension so far at least

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Replace Angelo with Arden, if you don't have him then use Nemora. If Lucius can survive in front and use his ult skill, you can try Estrilda at the back/replacing her with Lyca for haste.

@thin carbon #545929173471068170 Type .ascensionguide

[pale kettle]

Thx @pale rover I’ll give it a try

[thin carbon]

okie doke, thanks

[sonic lily]

Any advice? I think I can do it with the right set up.

[idle thorn]

@sonic lily Please take advantage of how OP Brutus is :x
You can easily do that, I will get you a lineup

[pale rover]

@sonic lily Brutus Saveas front, and either:

Fawkes Belinda Khasos at the back (3-2 team bonus)

Nemora Khasos Belinda at the back (3-1-1 team bonus).

[idle thorn]

Never mind lol

[sonic lily]

I've kinda neglected him because of not being E+ lol but I will try those, thank you @pale rover

[radiant shell]

Any tips for a line up I been playing o oh for 2 days

Plus tips overall

[sonic lily]

Demon dude, Estrilda(level her to 61) in the front. Shemira, Tasi, Athelia back. @radiant shell

Don't use gems on anything besides 10 hero summons at the tavern

[slate mason]

Im stuck :/ Any way I can make my team last just a bit longer?

[pale rover]

@radiant shell Golus Hogan Ezizh front (pick 2) Tasi Mirael Athalia back. You can use Estrilda as well if you'd like at least the basic team bonus, but she's not that useful early on yet. Work on Arden/Saveas (if you get them) when you can as well.

@slate mason You'll need to level.

[sonic lily]

@slate mason you are a bit underleveled, I would afk a bit to catch-up. Level 101 is a big boost

[slate mason]

Alright thanks guys

[sonic lily]

@pale rover For the suggestion you gave me for team comps, should I level any of them more than others? I have saveas higher now

[dire radish]

Comp help?

[pale rover]

@sonic lily Get Saveas as high as you can, then level the others to the minimum necessary to continue upgrading Saveas again.

[sonic lily]

Use Lucius/demonman front line, Arden/Shemira/saveas back

[pale rover]

@dire radish Hogan Lucius Shemira Arden Saveas for now. You can replace Shemira with Belinda for a 3-1-1 team bonus when you get her.

[dire radish]

So the rarity doesn’t really matter right. And thanks any placement tips?

[sonic lily]

Rarity doesn't really, it's the Ascension levels that mean the most

[pale rover]

@dire radish Rarity matters, but it doesn't make a big impact that early on. Ascension = Rarity.

That early just do the best you can with the units you get.

[dire radish]

Oh cool beans. Would I be replacing hogan with say Ezizh later on? He kind of looks cool lol

[sonic lily]

Depends on Ascension 😁

[pale rover]

You'll definitely be replacing Hogan, and Ezizh is viable only he's incredibly hard to ascend. If you get lucky and get a lot of copies, then go ahead.

[dire radish]

Alrighty. Thanks! ✌︎('ω')✌︎

[sonic lily]

Trust Aero more than me, I am still learning lol

[dire radish]

I’m all ears :). One last thing though. Should I still replace the horse lady with Lucius right now? Despite ascension level?

[sonic lily]

I would, Lucius is very strong and horse lady takes a while to come online. Late game she is very good.

[worthy nymph]

Who should I look to replace? Who should I start looking for, whether I have the toon or not? Thanks!

[dire radish]

Thanks fluvial :))

[sonic lily]

@worthy nymph Arden is pretty much good tier, I'd incorporate him. Other than that your top 5 are pretty good. I'm still learning with lineups so I can't really help tremendously there

@dire radish NP :)

[pale rover]

@worthy nymph Yeah your top 5 is fine.

[worthy nymph]

I hear Fawkes is really good. Is it cause he de buffs the enemy?

[dire radish]

Sorry actual last one. How do I line these guys up?

[pale rover]

@dire radish Just move Saveas to the bottom and Arden in the middle.

[sonic lily]

@worthy nymph removes all buffs from enemy and removes all debuffs from your team. He is a good counter to Brutus

[dire radish]

Thankssss

[worthy nymph]

Right now I’m stuck with ascending the last 3 can’t seem to get them

[sonic lily]

Yeah, welcome to AFK Arena haha

[worthy nymph]

@sonic lily yeah that’s what I figured and so true haha

[sonic lily]

Saveas is pretty easy to get up, I'd focus on him for now unless you start pulling brutus'

[worthy nymph]

Lucius be a good swap on Hogan?

[frank sedge]

I was recommended this line up. Belinda keeps surpassing Saveas in Atk though and Hasting herself, even though he has better gear. What do I need to do?

[kindred silo]

What team can I put together for chapter 8

[daring knot]

Could use some assistance.

[unborn token]

Send help. ive been stuck on this for about 4 days now 😦

[pale rover]

@frank sedge It's fine if Belinda surpasses Saveas for now as long as you get to kill the opponent. That's an alright team if you want to retain the 3-2 bonus, if you get stuck/pull more units feel free to ask again.

[sonic lily]

@worthy nymph Lucius would be a good swap, yeah

[pale rover]

@kindred silo You're going to have to send the stage photo as well.

[worthy nymph]

Yeah Lucius seems like a insane tank

[kindred silo]

Stage photo

[pale rover]

@daring knot Top 5, if you can't brute force it with Raine and Belinda together then replace Raine with Arden.

[worthy nymph]

Is Seirus a good tank as well or does it have nothing on Lucius

[normal matrix]

Stuck on 9-20

[pale rover]

@kindred silo Replace Nemora with Arden, but that's a good team already. Might be ascension/a bit of level issues. Also check their gear.

[frank sedge]

@pale rover I'm still stuck on this stage with this. But I guess I just need to afk farm more for levels

[unborn token]

-no response for me-. ):

[pale rover]

@unborn token I'm responding by order. I'm alone. Please be patient.

[worthy nymph]

Give her time she will get to you.

[unborn token]

kk.

[sonic lily]

@unborn token you are a bit underleveled. Saveas/Brutus front would be good, then Nemora/Belinda/??? Backline

[pale rover]

@unborn token Brutus Hogan/Skregg (team bonus) Saveas Belinda and Nemora. Also level the ones lagging behind.

[kindred silo]

@pale rover looks like I need to be AFK for a little to boost my levels. I am getting destroyed.

[pale kettle]

Help please I'm stuck!!!!

[pale rover]

Before you ask:
Check pinned post.
If you're still stuck, send TWO screenshots: Your team and the stage you are stuck in.

[sonic lily]

@kindred silo Brutus/ Hogan front line. Arden, Tasi, Belinda backline.

[unborn token]

@pale rover thanksss.

[sonic lily]

@pale kettle You are underleveled!

[pale kettle]

I figured as much but I wanna play lol! Bahahaha.

[pale rover]

@pale kettle You'll need to level. The trick to that stage is you'll have to kill Mirael asap, then Morvus. Skregg Golus front, Saveas Belinda Arden back. I'm worried about those Lightbearers but your other tanks are less ascended. How fast does Lucius die, does he get to cast his ult?

[final horizon]

Any help on 9-20

[light elm]

Try ulmus instead of hogan

[final horizon]

This is the rest if you were curious

[sonic lily]

@final horizon please send a picture of all of your heros as well so the people that help you don't have to scroll everywhere to see your posts

[final horizon]

Sorry I forgot and slowmode caught me

[pale kettle]

@pale rover actually I'm having more issues with ezizh living than lucius. Yea he gets 2 ults off but morvus decimates me in the end.

[pale rover]

@final horizon Shemira Saveas front, Silvina Ira Tasi/Arden back.

[worthy nymph]

So I’m on 7-36. Do I need to swap around toons in my line up.

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Okay, in that case: Lucius (bottom) Hogan/Golus (top) for front, Fawkes Belinda and Saveas at the back.

[final horizon]

@pale rover that helped a bit more thank you

[pale rover]

@final horizon If you can kill 3-4 of them with that team, just switch their positions around until you find what might work.

[final horizon]

I got 2 I think I'll be better when I can get Belinda to 121

[unborn token]

is hogan better or skregg? @pale rover

[pale rover]

@worthy nymph Nope that formation is fine. Ascension is the only thing I figure might give you difficulties.

[worthy nymph]

Yeah that’s exactly what is giving me the trouble. Cool thanks!

[pale rover]

@unborn token Neither of them are stellar but early on they do their job. If you have hero-related #classic-questions, kindly ask there. Thanks!

[fervent coyote]

yeah gimme some sad trumpet

[scarlet kraken]

You’re a savage with the lyca in the front

[teal glade]

I just got nemora from the labyrinth after starting map 6 and have her in my crystal and replaced her in for khasos and went from a blocked level crushing me to completely destroying it with everyone ending at full hp....

Running lucius/hogan front, saveas/nemora/shemira back

[inner seal]

@scarlet kraken lyca in front is a generic formation since she starts from behind no matter where you put her

[plain pewter]

I have shemira, hogan, estilda, Belinda, saveas, and I have Thane as well. Any tips? All elite and I’m level 34 and my they are lvl 70

[pale rover]

@fervent coyote That's levels and ascensions for sure.

@plain pewter If those are the heroes you want to work with, you can do Hogan and Estrilda in front, and Shemira, Belinda, and Saveas at the back. Early on I'd replace your Shemira with Fawkes (if you have him) for a 3-2 bonus, Arden if you don't.

[pale kettle]

Any advice? (9-36) it often ends up in a 1v1 between Shem and vedan but I lose always

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Have you tried Brutus Lucius Shemira Lyca (only for the haste) and Arden? How many ults does Lucius get to cast?

[pale kettle]

Yeah I've tried lyca but Fawkes is kinda needed on this level

Lucius gets off 1 ult everytime

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Level the ones lagging behind to at least 121 and try again. Arden also needs to be nearer to Brutus so Silvina runs into him right after she kills Arden.

[proud wave]

Should I use Belinda/Fawkes or Arden/Lyca? I have to replace both or neither to keep at least some sort of bonus

[pale kettle]

Ok will try, thank you for the help

[proud wave]

I should mention that my Belinda is Legendary and I'm mid-game

[pale kettle]

I can't level Fawkes nor arden they are max ascension level

[scarlet kraken]

@inner seal it’s a generic formation to have 3 heroes grouped at the back with no tank in front? Doesn’t seem like a good strat to me

[pale rover]

@proud wave What's the rest of your team? Or send ss of your heroes.

[plain pewter]

Also it says my screenshots are two big? iPhone xmax

[proud wave]

Just replaced Estrilda with Brutus @pale rover

[pale rover]

@proud wave Brutus Lucius Saveas Belinda Fawkes. See which ascensions you get more of and build up your wilder pool. Eventually you can choose to transition to Brutus Lucius Tasi Arden/Nemora and Lyca.

[proud wave]

That was my goal, yeah. Just curious though, why is Saveas so good? And why should I drop Tasi?

[rain sphinx]

Higher ascension and dmg possibly?

[pale rover]

@proud wave Saveas can carry you all the way until Chapter 14-15 especially if you put him in a good team. He's usually the last to survive. You don't need to drop Tasi if you don't want to, I just made you a balanced and synergized formation based on the heroes you currently have (ascensions, team bonus).

[pale kettle]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me one on one with my hero lay out.

[rain sphinx]

Same xD

[pale rover]

Sure just post two screenshots together: your hero list, and the stage you're having difficulty with.

[plain pewter]

How do you load screenshots?

[pale rover]

Crop them if they're too large in size.

[proud wave]

@rain sphinx I mean just in general, haha. I've never understood how Saveas gets put so high.

@pale rover Really I'm willing to give anything a try right now since I'm still so early in the game, so I'll give it a shot. My CC is gonna be feel a little weaker though I think

[pale rover]

@proud wave Because that team has more damage, one cc should be enough for now especially if you say you're still in mid game. You'll transition to wilders for more cc which is why you should build up your pool.

[inner seal]

@scarlet kraken yes it is, it still depends on the unit, in the case of lyca she doesnt hit hard but her buff is amazing

[pale kettle]

im stuck in 9-20

[proud wave]

@pale rover I see. Well I'll trust your word there, I've got no clue how the progression of this game works lol

[inner seal]

So you can run a 1 carry team which is the cheapest solution for the game, you us 1 tank and 3 buffer

[plain pewter]

Level 34 stage 5-36 tower 72

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Oh 9-20. Remove the levels from Lucius and Ezizh and level Saveas and Silvina to 120. Put Lucius and Ezizh in the crystal so they become 120 as well.

[rain sphinx]

Stuck fighting battles I can't get past

Been trying unwise strategies.

[pale kettle]

@pale rover can you text me 1 on 1..? Sorry DX

[still ingot]

whats that red thing around your hero

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Also you ideally would not use Lightbearers against Graveborn, because of the faction weakness. Your best bet there would be to use a neutral faction (Maulers) and/or fellow Wilder heroes.

[rain sphinx]

Mine? It's the mythic indicator.

[proud wave]

Should I put leveling priority on Saveas or Belinda?

[pale rover]

@plain pewter Grezhul Hogan Belinda/Shemira Arden and Saveas/Vedan (team bonus if you chose Shemira over Belinda).

@proud wave Saveas.

[still ingot]

Am I good? Or I needa switch some things up

[proud wave]

💜

[pale rover]

@rain sphinx Full Graveborn stages are always a pain. Thoran Kaz Ulmus Nemora and Silvina.

@still ingot Hogan Golus front, Saveas Arden Khasos at the back (team bonus) or Hogan Golus front, Saveas Arden/Nemora Belinda at the back (no team bonus).

[inner seal]

@pale rover props to you to be able to keep amswering these, i cant do it

[still ingot]

Like that? Ty btw

[pale rover]

@inner seal I love helping people, thanks. I just don't like people who can't wait.

@still ingot That'll do, hopefully it works out for you!

[still ingot]

ty

[plain pewter]

@pale rover in my situation who would take Belinda over Shemira for now and Saveas over Vedan?

[pale kettle]

Is this right @pale rover

[pale rover]

@plain pewter You can try it with Shemira and Vedan first, so at least you get a bonus.

@pale kettle Thoran and Brutus in front, Saveas Tasi and Shemira at the back.

[fervent coyote]

get more levels into sav, round 121 might be good for resounding crystal heroes

[rain sphinx]

@pale rover Guess I'm either too low or unlucky still stuck thanks for the help gonna continue grinding up for a lucky run

[pale rover]

@rain sphinx Having Arden will really help you in that stage.

[pale rover]

@pale kettle See previous response if your layout still doesn't work for you.

[pale kettle]

Ok, ill try and see

[rain sphinx]

@pale rover Yeah... I might have burned my Legendary + Arden when getting Nemora to Ascended.

[plain pewter]

Pardon me. I can now purchase a hero in the Labyrinth store. Should I buy Shemira so I can ascend her to Legendary or get Nemora or another hero?

[pale kettle]

It was a defeat

[pale rover]

@plain pewter Shemira if you use her in your composition for sure.

@pale kettle That means you need to level up the ones that are lagging behind.

That, and check if their gear is good.

[pale kettle]

Ok

@pale rover is it ok if i send you the pics in a privet chat so you can see better..?

[frozen whale]

Sigh power level difference too significant lol

[inner seal]

I dont know about aero but I hate when people chat me privately for help, I still help them I just dont like it

[pale rover]

@pale kettle Private chat makes it a bit harder for me because I have to keep going back and forth from lineup to dms, which is why I prefer it to be here so it's sequential.☺️

Make sure your most able to be ascended heroes are the ones you manually level and place the rest of the ones you use that aren't so ascended in the resonating crystal. @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Ohh ok @pale rover

[pale rover]

@frozen whale Yes you'll definitely need to level. You'll be able to do it eventually, though!

[stable vigil]

Can i mix up anything?

[pale kettle]

Here is the gear for the 2 new heroes @pale rover

[pale rover]

@stable vigil Oh you're in that terrible stage. Lucius and Belinda aren't very optimal there as it's full Graveborn, Brutus Kaz Shemira Ulmus and Arden (do you have him?).

@pale kettle Yeah it's not really your gear then, it means your levels. Level up the ones that are lagging.

[stable vigil]

I have them but not high ascension

[pale rover]

@stable vigil You'll need to build up Arden. That stage requires crowd control for sure. Shemira can only get you so far without having a crowd controller to help her out before she can ult.

[frozen whale]

Have athalia? What I did is use athalia to push enemy Shem to mid and Brutus replace Lucious to shred @stable vigil :S not ideal but it worked for me lol

[pale kettle]

Ok, im out of the ex for heroes tho XD whats a good way to get more bit quick?

[pale rover]

@pale kettle You can ask anything else in #classic-questions if it's not directly lineup related.

[stable vigil]

If only @frozen whale
Ok ill look into that ty @pale rover

[carmine pelican]

yo

[steady shuttle]

any suggestions to get past 9-28

[pale kettle]

Oops sorry DX still learning the ropes of this area