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#lineup-help
spring gazelle
Food as in fodder for better chars to ascend? Or did you mean good and just had typo. I like Fire Girl but is gun guy any good?
pale kettle
Nothing seems to work :/
Any suggestions? I tried several things.. im willing to sacrifice saveas to max another hero.. but idk
scenic wraith
Don't sacrifice saveas
brisk mica
Can someone help me please??
pale kettle
Think i need to afk lol
scenic wraith
I play with my roster alot and just quit the battle
neon loom
So my current team is ezizh seirus athalia nemora lyca. Ppl been telling me that i should use arden, who should i replace then?
simple flume
@glad ridge didnt work. Silvina wrecks my whole team.
ivory swan
Just out of curiousity which one should I get to legend, Estrilda or Raine ( yes I know I don't have enough just personal opinion
supple ice
Please help, its as if the game expects you to have at least Legendary+ heroes or even Mythic, all my heroes do so much more damage than enemy heroes, but enemy heroes just dont die due to health... and max hero level is 140 for legendary so Im clueless
pale kettle
any suggestions
tiny spoke
swap silvina for belinda maybe
pale kettle
supple ice
So many shems
pale kettle
yes i got 1 from lab and the rest were pulls
itried swapping belinda for silvina but it does worse
Shall i do hogan
hushed nymph
Seems like a common roadblock as I am stuck too xD
meager parrot
the main problem is I either: deal too much damage with kaz, causing it to destroy my own units too fast; deal damage too slow, causing him to heal up too easily; add in silvina which will run to the wrong hero
snow coyote
@meager parrot take out Silv and Ankh from the crystal and level them to 121.
meager parrot
wouldn't it be cheaper to wait it out till I ascend using mirael and iza as materials, as they are not ascended tiered heroes?
white sedge
Looking for some friendly advice, toons max at 160 can’t seem to get pulls I want for mythic (was trying graveborn team) stuck 12-40 for a while see team below
snow coyote
Why would you want to ascend Mirael? Just reset those two and level you’re L heroes. That way your pool will have the 121 bonus.
white sedge
hoary crest
Can anyone help with lvl 110 from Kings tower?
pale kettle
stuck on 8-24
scarlet kraken
@hoary crest I would try fawkes to get rid of one of the brutus. He also slows down their attacks which could be useful. And then hopefully nemora charms the other one. Good luck
@pale kettle send 8-24
pale kettle
@scarlet kraken
hoary crest
Tyyy fawkes and ogi worked
maiden cargo
Try seirus instead of hogan @pale kettle
pale kettle
@maiden cargo Why would I do that Hogan has higher stats
maiden cargo
15% bonus hp/att
pale kettle
?
maiden cargo
3heros 1 tye 2 another gives 15% bonus hp att
pale kettle
@maiden cargo I won ty
spring robin
What can I do?
spring robin
Same 8-32 Ridiculous
subtle peak
Also stuck on 8-32. Getting a Saveas vs Saveas standoff that just never ends. Any tips?
My lineup is basically the top 5
fossil moth
I guess I can wait 2 weeks for another try. Completely disgusting and repulsive game design. Gj @pliant jetty first you Tell me that vip 3 gets a battle speed as a new feature which I had unlocked earlier and now this completely out of control balance. The difference between 8-28 and 8-32 is absolutely disgusting and simply makes us either to go afk or pay 💰 to get rid of the wall.
spring robin
true
ivory swan
Everyone's personal opinion Should I make Raine or Estrilda legend? I recently got Esizh an he's a pretty good tank for now.
spring robin
dude Estrilda sucks so make Raine 100%
subtle peak
I have a legendary Estrilda. Not impressed atm
spring robin
Estrilda is useless
tulip wigeon
Any advice would be appreciated. I'm feeling like brutus is holding me back because I cant get a duplicate to continue leveling him 😬
white sedge
Anyone want scroll up a bit and look at my team
tranquil hill
Can take the levels out of Brutus and put them in Belinda so everyone on your crystals will leavel up to 121
vast spoke
What do you guys think the best faction for the faction pulls is? i have a few to use
tranquil hill
Depends where you’re at. I think maulers is very nice to have in the beginning, lightbearers are decent in the middle because the quests keep giving copies so you can make legends and l+s easier. Wilders has lyca nemora tasi which are amazing as support, but I wouldn’t focus on them first
heavy lark
vast spoke
This is my lineup right now. I am using a lot of lightbearers but I wouldn't mind dumping them. In stage 6-24. I want a buffer saveas 👀
And illbe getting the e+ Belinda in a couple days
odd cobalt
Currently stuck at 6-28. Wondering if there's a better line up available? Also is it worth using Shemira right now if I get her to lvl81+?
jagged junco
Can someone help me with a starter lineup?
sage lichen
Any suggestions for 12-8?
unique rivet
I wanna swap out mirael which hero is stronger than her? That I have.
uneven parcel
Can anyone help(what happens with my luneup is that i forst kill vedan then eri then my upper side crumbels and bemorah ults and i'm left with saevas solo vs 3 full hp and lose)
glossy bane
Is this lineup bad? I can’t really progress through chapter 3 but I’m not sure if it’s due to the lineup or I just need to level
fierce kayak
@glossy bane need to see your whole rooster
glossy bane
Yeah I want to do that @fierce kayak but my phone makes the whole picture more than 8MB so I can't send it. I'll try to find a way
fiery wing
@glossy bane crop the very bottom line of characters out
glossy bane
There, I don’t have very many chars to begin with so I just cropped the empty space
livid heart
fiery wing
I'd replace Ira with arden
livid heart
Guys 10 28 need help with linee up
glossy bane
Hmmm, I heard she was good for early game which is why I was using her but I'll try switching
fierce kayak
@glossy bane anyway try to have faction bonus
heavy lark
Anyone thoughts?
green rover
Is that 8-32? @heavy lark
heavy lark
Yes @green rover
green rover
I'm stuck on that right now as well lol
tame moth
Who should put in my lineup currently on lvl 9-4
mystic barn
6-24 is ruining my evening
pale kettle
Maybe try a 5x Lightbearer comp. since all 5 of the others are Maulers. Or if you cant use whatever strong LBs you have and use Brutus/Saveas with them
ocean frigate
I'd recommend swapping hogan for estrillda, tasi and belinda for the celestial
and savaes*
pale kettle
can anyone help me? im stuck at 11-21
mystic barn
Estrilda > Hogan?
jade gull
Guys which would be a better team?
Saveas Brutus Belinda Shemira Nemora
Saveas Brutus Belinda Shemira Lucius
pale rover
@jade gull I'd suggest Saveas Brutus Belinda Lucius and Fawkes (if you have him). For now, team 2.
@pale kettle Lucius Golus/Estrilda Saveas Belinda Fawkes.
@mystic barn Brutus Hogan Belinda Saveas and Tasi/Arden.
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mint bay
modest sail
What’s the best lineup I can make against Soren? This lineup works fairly well against Wrizz but didn’t fare well against Soren.
hollow sapphire
How to line up
nocturne star
hollow sapphire
I feel you I’m stuck on 9-20 also
atomic atlas
Can anyone help me put together the best team that I can make out of this? I just pulled 2 extra Fawkes’ so maybe something using him?
gilded fractal
any help? thanks!! ^^
pale kettle
I’m using elite+ serous, and elite lucious. I can make legendary hogan or estrilda. Would either of them be a better tank than my current ones?
I could actually make legendary* hogan
runic scarab
worthy ocean
Is thane any good?
mighty sage
Should I use ezizh
pale kettle
I’m using elite+ serous, and elite lucious. I can make legendary+ hogan or legendary estrilda. Would either of them be a better tank than my current ones?
unique rivet
I have the little tavern free epic hero choice, what faction should I choose?
pale kettle
10-8 advice please?
grand tide
advice?
muted forge
For team formation do you put two strength tanks in front row and three dps in back?
unique rivet
Can anyone help me?
unborn token
send help thank youu.
split oar
Do I buy shemira to upgrade her to elite+ or buy nemora ( i dont have her) from lab shop?
near mist
I'll give you some insight
- Shemira is a carry, but you need a proper tank and support for her. She's devastating at later stage.
- Nemora is a support, spesifically a healer fits in many team composition. You gonna need her for long term battle like peaks of time. Her strong point is heal oriented and able to charm enemy @split oar
split oar
I already know that but idk what i need most rn...i think nemora will be best for now
near mist
Yeah nem nem
pine goblet
Help?
subtle sparrow
Sup everyone, here is my problem. Im getting rekt by the spear thrower, its been almost a week since im stuck 😭
normal echo
@subtle sparrow read pinned messages of this channel
pseudo bear
low bridge
I read in pinned messages on what heroes to focus on, my current team is Belinda, Shemira and Fawkes (back) and Lucius and Brutus (front). I still dont have a lot of succes with this comp. Any insights?
fallow spindle
thin bough
ripe crag
@yumin yep
clever bison
desert dome
stuck on 8-28right now wondering if this is a decent team for now. hoping to take out hogan once i can get my hands on nemora. also considering on a swap from saveas to lyca if i can get my hands on her
round verge
Any recommendations would be appreciated. Sav seems to kill anyone in front of him in about 2 hits.
pale kettle
help plzzz
final lagoon
Help needed.
blissful plaza
I need some help. I'm stuck since days. Ty
final lagoon
Ch6 legendaries.. thats awesome
Thoran, estrilda, belinda, tasi and ira in the order 1-5
lunar drum
Ok who wants to help me here?
final lagoon
I’ll help if youre lower in levels than me XD
lunar drum
Hahaha no
blissful plaza
Ty @final lagoon I'll try this :)*
lunar drum
I’m trying to figure out who to replace in my team
fervent coyote
holy fuck we're still on 30s slowmode
try arden instead of nemora since you have lyca haste
fawkes a bit higher
lunar drum
Why is there slow mode here?
final lagoon
hogan is the one I’d go for unless you don’t have any other tanks
fervent coyote
I can see grezhul as an option but hogan has cc and faction advantage going for him
lunar drum
final lagoon
Yes thats true
Yes you can go for arden instead of nemora cause he is really helpful in ch6
fervent coyote
sav to counter enemy sav
and yes get some 101s
final lagoon
Can anyone help me, I sent a ss above
crisp coral
Hey, so wondering what my lineup should be now. first time taking into consideration the faction bonuses heh.
Current formation is -
Thoran, Hogan, Arden, Athalia, Lyca
Im also able to buy Shemira now from the Lab Store.
options I thought of -
Vedan, Thoran, Arden, Shemira, Athalia (only 3 same faction)
Vedan, Thoran, Arden, Lyca , Shemira (3, 2 factions)
final lagoon
Don’t use shemira early on. She is useless, more of a late game hero.
Also Athalia changes to any faction in your formation so youll get a faction bonus
crisp coral
Oh dayum didn't knew that about Athalia, awsome.
so this formation means 4 of the same faction -
Vedan, Thoran, Arden, Shemira, Athalia (only 3 same faction)
Shemira useless O.O, she got A early and S mid
amber rapids
Stuck on 6-36. Was wondering if its possible to beat with the heroes i have and or if they need to be a higher level ♡
final lagoon
I would personally say, use Hogan, Estrilda, Ulmus, Athalia and Lyca for now, but after CH5 youll get resonating crystal for your Seirus, Vedan and Thoran @crisp coral
lunar drum
Your levels need to be higher
fierce rover
7-40 need help
light elm
I'd think your levels need to be higher. And kill top first leave brutus for last
lunar drum
That’s a solid team though
amber rapids
Mine?
final lagoon
@light elm Can you help me with 9-38 I sent a screenshot above
crisp coral
@final lagoon I'm at CH5-16.
srsly tho, I shouldnt use Shemira/Vedan they seem to be strong by the tier list.. sigh
scarlet kraken
Any tips guys
light elm
@fierce rover does he ira get her ult off? If not replace her with a tank or silvina
lunar drum
Yea hex
amber rapids
Thanks @lunar drum
fierce rover
@light elm okay thank you
vital ether
Who needs help il be here for sometime only
final lagoon
Help
scarlet kraken
@final lagoon swap your position of your Lightbearers and wilders.. vedan doing bonus damage to your lucius. I would try to use tasi as a bait for silvina so that they are really grouped and then your team can hit some heavy aoe on the grouped up enemies. Just my opinion
light elm
@final lagoon try ira bot if she does more dps. It's a grave stage so your belinda and lucius is at a disadvantage.
@scarlet kraken I'd upgrade sav ASAP, and put some cc heroes in there. brutus tasi saveas khasos probably and the last one depends on stage, try arden
vital ether
Silvina n place in front ogi so ogi n arden get disturbed
scarlet kraken
Ok cool thanks I’ll get that upgrade when I can
crisp coral
Bumping as Arca offered his help ^_^
Hey, so wondering what my lineup should be now. first time taking into consideration the faction bonuses heh.
Current formation is -
Thoran, Hogan, Arden, Athalia, Lyca
Im also able to buy Shemira now from the Lab Store.
options I thought of -
Vedan, Thoran, Arden, Shemira, Athalia (4 same faction)
Vedan, Thoran, Arden, Lyca , Shemira (3, 2 factions)
vital ether
U are still in low levels so faction bonus not that needed..
- U can use legend tier heroes for now coz ascend tier shine after lvl 161
viscid pasture
So general chat convinced me to seek help like a baby, anyone sees something I could do to progress here? It feels like my fighters are high level enough
crisp coral
I see, so how would you build the team with my heroes? also who would you overlvl at the team?
vital ether
Arden athalia Shem saveas silvina brut these heroes will help u during mid game n early one
lunar drum
Anything I try to do with 6-36 ends up with defeat
crisp coral
hehe, I dont have saveas, silvina and brut
scarlet kraken
@crisp coral in my opinion you don’t want to be maxing out athalia, she’s hard to get copies of and she will eventually fall off. She’s good for you for now, but you will eventually hit that wall
light elm
@viscid pasture your main dps seems to be belinda and silvina. Problem is belinda is light so dps reduced, and silvina probably jumps niru who can't be bursted down. The levels would be enough if you didn't have faction disadvantage, but atm I think you need a few more
crisp coral
mmmmmm, so maybe I should reset her and use shem maxed instead? or vedan?
vital ether
@viscid pasture need to kill niru first so a good tank n saveas behind might help
final lagoon
The only thing worth with athalia is her initial attack but she dies very quickly if she’s stuck at elite.
scarlet kraken
@crisp coral you can keep levelling her for now, but eventually she won’t be able to compete with your e+ and l’s.
final lagoon
Use vedan shem aint that great early on @crisp coral
viscid pasture
There is nothing I can do to kill Niru first as far as I can see. Silvina jumps on the silly bat thing, Arden is jumped by their Silvina, and Faweks tries to coffin her and whiffs
vital ether
@crisp coral can summon more u might get good ones
serene brook
light elm
@viscid pasture yea Fawkes fails a lot when there's a silvina involved. If he can't get his coffin off I'd rather not play him
@serene brook either get some cc or some levels
vital ether
@crisp coral the overlvl thing works if u had good gears. That all will help later in chapter 10 onwards
So saveas shemira vedan these heroes can be overlvld than rest to solo carry
viscid pasture
So I have no cc I can use, and my dps is mostly ineffective due to factions. Okay, welp, thanks anyways.
real rain
Halp.
real rain
You need a second tank legendary asap. @round verge
real rain
Real gud idea.
fervent coyote
you won't see maulers for a while so that's a good idea
lunar drum
Who should I replace fawkes with?
real rain
Get 2 good tanks front, then fairy, sheep and dps of ur choice.
lunar drum
I don’t have many tanks
wary jewel
Hi guys
real rain
Aquaman and the hunchback.
wary jewel
Who should replace
lunar drum
Ok
real rain
Looks solid. You can change the deer to belinda or saveas if the dps is not enough.
lunar drum
Ok
real rain
Just keep the tanks as geared and high ascency as possible :D
lunar drum
My Belinda is legendary of course lol but I’m not changing out lyca
real rain
All depends on the fight... If you get paired against healers, then the extra dps would help.
low bridge
6-36, sir
lunar drum
That one sucks a lot I barely got through that on a bit ago
low bridge
yeah I found that out already 😂😉
lunar drum
But once you get past 6-36 the rest of chapter 6 is easy
pale rover
To anyone having trouble with Vedan/Niru: I actually found that Khasos with a Lyca (haste) is quite efficient at killing them fast.
I just tried it out now and it was pretty effective.
low bridge
Thats why I'm here to get advice 😂😂
hearty stream
Probably Nemora, Tasi/Arden, Lyca backline. For frontline I would do Seirus and whoever
low bridge
Dont have Tasi tho
real rain
Since theres no heal, all you gotta do is survive. Lucius - aquaman
Saveas - lyca - old wood dude :D
cinder crag
Hey y'all any ideas ?
real rain
Replace silvina with saveas...
dark sage
@hoary crest Level up your top 5 to level 121 (a powerspike). Place Arden in the res crystal. And then formation:
Front 1: Tasi, Front 2: Lucius. Back 3: Nemora Back 4: Arden and Back 5: Belinda.
That's how I beat it, but my heroes were at level 123 and cleared it with ease and the next 8 floors with that formation.
crisp coral
Arca Im confused now lol,
This is what I got now after buying shemira, what team would you guys suggest atm? Im stuck at 5-16
cinder crag
@real rain Already tried that it won't work
subtle notch
real rain
@cinder crag Also try old dude replacing fawkes and if you have any other good cc tank then replace horse for the fight.
subtle notch
Need help
real rain
You can kill vedan before he can ult with enough cc on him and then u win. @cinder crag
cinder crag
Vedans isn't the problem the problem is ridiculous burst DMG Isabella has and Niru's invincible tankiness after heroes are killed might use Hogan but so far Hogan seemed ineffective maybe i need to wait idk
pale kettle
I have the option to ascend Khasos or replace him with someone, any suggestions?
This is what I have to work with atm
real rain
If you can focus and kill vedan, then the fight will snowball pretty easily
@cinder crag
pale kettle
i dont think so i can kill niru vedan and ira at once but isabella ist solo carrying this
pale rover
@pale kettle Your team is fine but if you need crowd control just replace Khasos with Fawkes.
pale kettle
Thank you I will try
unborn token
i am stuck :/
hearty stream
Try switching Ezizh' and Savaes' places. Also, you might want to swap Thoran and Nemora. Vedan and Belinda can also help if you can level them with either the resonating crystal or by resetting the others.
wild vine
11.40 any suggestion?
hearty stream
Then maybe you just have to level up your heroes to progress
molten moat
Put lucius in front of brutus
@pale kettle Other than that, I think you should level up to 81. you got enemy power spike since more skills unlocked.
pale kettle
Tried fawkes n the guy above him as cc but ye i just need to make em 81
molten moat
Lucius especially needs to be 81
pale kettle
Perhaps i could max vurk instead of saveas? No idea lol
torpid goblet
10-32 need help to beat it
pale kettle
I need help can someone me
light elm
@torpid goblet lucius for hogan and add cc for raine belinda. Try arden tasi athalia nemora
@pale kettle post a pic of what you need help with
quasi imp
need help with kings tower 110. Also for 8-40 if possible. Thank you!
primal plank
I’m stuck on 9-20
I have Belinda lvl 126
Lucius lvl 120
Hogan lvl 120
Raine lvl 120
Fawkes lvl 118
candid turtle
I want to use numisu and golus to get saveas to legendary, but id need to find a replacement for him. Would niru or ogi work well?
vocal topaz
Any suggestion for this stage
candid turtle
For golus*
fallen olive
@vocal topaz try saveas spot 1 and replace ogi with arden
@candid turtle dont use numisu as food
candid turtle
@fallen olive I wont, but why not?
void cosmos
i would do it tbh
tulip elm
Can anyone tell me what’s the best comp I can make
fallen olive
@candid turtle numisu is ascended tier and can go much further than saveas who caps at 160. Numisus growth will be limited by your numisu copies while saveas is pretty easy to get to max
candid turtle
Alright, ill keep him. That being said, if I use golus or something, what should I replace him with?
fallen olive
@tulip elm 120 saveas, the distribute rest of xp evenly, khasos isabella hogan athalia probably
tulip elm
Thanks. I was stupid to waste 1 set of equipment for Agi hero 😦
fallen olive
@candid turtle id run hogan brutus front belinda athalia saveas back with swapping athalia to wherever shell be most useful
@tulip elm shouldnt care too much about equipment till mythic is available, eveything gets replaced pretty quick untill legendary +
pale kettle
Hello ! I’m always loosing at legend’s challenger tournament. Can anyone help me to make the 3 teams please ? I also have Ankhira E+ and Athalia E. Thank you
candid turtle
Why athalia over arden? And thanks!
fallen olive
@candid turtle with arden no faction bonuses with athalia you get the 3+2 bonus
15% hp and atk
frosty nova
Stuck 13-16
candid turtle
Got it. Thanks!
light elm
@pale kettle hey sry I went afk 😎
You don't need brutus he's not much help. Try grezhul or a cc hero. If you put cc, Lane estrilda aggaint brut
@frosty nova same tip
light elm
Try grez athalia arden shem nemora
Oh your arden is 140 that's a bummer
light elm
Do it
frosty nova
Yeah itll work thanks xd
crisp coral
Still stuck on 5-16, tried both -
Thoran, Hogan, Lyca, Arden, Athalia
Thoran, Vedan, Lyca, Arden, Athalia
Should I also try something with Shemira or simply afk ?
pale kettle
Invest in shem and saveas. Saveas mostly because he'll pretty much carry you to chapter 14
Athalia is great, but tbh unless you get lucky and get enough pulls of her, she's only really good for distracting enemy ardens
crisp coral
Maybe I should swap Lyca with Shem, and once I get Saveas to reset Athalia for him?
Is it even worth using Arden now or I should kick him out?
pale kettle
Arden is gooooood... don't fodderize him!
I'm still using him rn in chapter 16. Where you're at, faction bonuses isn't that impt, but you need a good dps, and you don't really have one yet.
crisp coral
sigh... I just need one more rare Mauler for Saveas
light elm
@crisp coral reset athalia get shem to 100 she lasts till the middle of chap 6,like 16 or 20
crisp coral
oh so your advice is -
Thoran, Hogan, Shem, Lyca, Arden correct?
main Shem for lvling
pale kettle
Looks good.
light elm
For now yes. You need to pull if you got the diamonds don't hoard
crisp coral
Thanks ❤
subtle peak
Another person stuck at 9-20 here. Any tips/lineup changes?
light elm
How does Fawkes work for belinda or athalia
crisp coral
@light elm Should I try Vedan instead of Hogan for the 3,2 faction bonus? or he won't be able to make it (currently at 5-16)
crystal tartan
Level 22 here, Stage 4-36. Level 69 Saveas, Level 42 Athalia, Level 41 Warek, Level 41 Estrilda. I also have Elite Ira, Elite Skreg, Elite Hogan and 3 Rare Miraels. Who should be my 5th hero? Also, how should I level them? Thanks!
subtle peak
Instead of them, you mean, @light elm ?
light elm
@crisp coral yes okay about the same impact as hogan as of now, with the team bonus vedan becomes better. Didn't suggest him because I'm a scrooge and 20 diamonds
@subtle peak yes
@crystal tartan whoever helps the most for now. Reevaluate when you get level 100 heroes
crystal tartan
how do I know who helps the most?
subtle peak
Negates the Isabella for a few seconds, but ultimately doesn't change the outcome
crisp coral
@light elm Thanks a lot ❤
light elm
@crystal tartan oh the crystal is still locked. Go for ira I guess. She's good dps
subtle peak
This is the usual outcome. Regardless of team
crystal tartan
thanks @light elm
thick gulch
@subtle peak put saveas on the side of niru and burst him down
and brutus, athalia on middle to go for nemora
if that doesnt happen fast enough, put ur own nemora on 5 to hopefully get a charm on vedan to buy u time
light elm
Brutus too
subtle peak
My Lucius gets melted in seconds and Brutus is usually the charm target after that. So it's going worse than before, it seems
thick gulch
then u need to wait for levels and gear
niru needs to die first on niru levels in general
light elm
Only take sav top and check brutus stays down
subtle peak
Yeah, probably should
thick gulch
in general i managed to make it with same levels but worse heroes, so just work around it and try to make it work
maybe it works on the 100th time if niru is close to death u just need 3 lucky crits in a row and gg xD
loud dagger
Hello fellow adventurers ive updated my beginners guide hope it serve you well
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11HSed1P1hD6T2yOe0UdpqOn327AvOBeiuUqoI-KLlaA/edit?usp=drivesdk
crystal tartan
thanks @loud dagger
glossy bane
I don’t really have any good faction combos but maybe I just don’t see it. Do I have the best formation right now?
crisp coral
@light elm So, with your suggestion I got to 5-24
and just got the last rare I needed for Saveas epic.
so I should change all my formation now to use him? lol he doesnt fit with my faction bonuses /:
hearty stream
You should probably look to restart since you didn't get any Epic heroes (ones that can become ascended) up until now @glossy bane
glossy bane
Do you have a higher chance getting them early or something @hearty stream ? I don’t wanna restart like 50 times XD
crisp coral
Mercy you get a free Epic once finishing CH1, some says its worth re doing it till you get a good roll
hearty stream
@glossy bane Your first draw is a guaranteed epic. I would look for something fairly decent. E.g. Tasi, Nemora, Lyca, Thane, Fawkes, Lucius, Brutus, Shemira, Belinda.
There is also a cheap x10 draw since you get gems fast, and another 10x draw if you use afklaunch as redemption code (it might have expired, I'm not sure).
It takes a few minutes to get there, but one of those heroes early on will definitely be more useful late game.
I suggest you, at the very least, try to get a decent hero from the first draw.
glossy bane
Mmk so how do I restart?
old mason
switch servers
hearty stream
You click on your avatar, then settings, then select server. Click on a new server to join one. You will restart, but progress will be saved on the previous server as well.
glossy bane
So just keep changing servers till I get one of the ones you mentioned
hearty stream
That would be a good start, yes.
Joining older servers does mean that you'll be behind most other players though.
ivory heath
Tasi is a good first pick right?
hearty stream
Definitely. I still don't have a Tasi unfortunately. 😦
ivory heath
I don't have any damager though 😦
vocal topaz
just use saveas easy enough to get
hearty stream
Trust me, Tasi will be worth it in the long run. Savaes is easy to obtain and does major damage until ~chapter 15. Tasi, however, is very useful throughout the entire game.
glossy bane
Just to be clear Ely, the roll is after completing CH1 right?
hearty stream
Yes, your first single summon at the tavern is a guaranteed epic.
half plover
ivory heath
is Saveas worth it to level up? I have him actually
half plover
Any suggestions? I'm stucking every boss fight and have to wait till I get xp
pale kettle
Need tips bois, having a really hard time in this stage
hearty stream
Savaes will do the majority of your damage, especially if you don't have other damage dealers. He's good until chapter 15 (which takes quite a while to get there for the casual player) @ivory heath
minor hatch
Stuck
ivory heath
alright I'll build him up I have Estrilda also
hearty stream
Try to get Savaes to L+ tier. Don't sacrifice any heroes which can become ascended though.
glossy bane
Got Vurk. Should reroll right?
hearty stream
Vurk is alright, I'd try rerolling though.
unreal flare
8-36, need help
glossy bane
@hearty stream got a Numisu is that decent
hearty stream
Reroll it is. Numisu isn't good.
hearty stream
Some I look to find are:
Brutus, Fawkes, Lucius, Shemira, Tasi, Lyca, Nemora, Isabella, Belinda, Khasos
burnt flax
Do u reroll for two of the heroes or just one?
fierce kayak
@glossy bane numisu is decent. But not ideal as a reroll hero
hearty stream
Well, the first pull should be one of those. Getting another or several from the next x10 is a bonus.
I had this the first pull on one server which I was quite happy about.
hearty stream
I would try to get everything to 81 first.
fierce kayak
@unreal flare I will reset Shemira since you already have saveas. Replace her with someone with 3/2 faction bonus or a CC or healer
pale kettle
Why reroll? I mean i get the leg up of having a good start but when the game requires you to roll 8 of the same hero to max their levelups, rerolling seems kinda pointless
hearty stream
Needing 7 after your first summon is better than needing 8 to begin with. Plus, you will progress faster with a good first pull, which has its obvious benefits.
pale kettle
Still, you're at the mercy of rng... could as easily have a bad start and roll 4 brutuses in a row
fierce kayak
Ya.. actually Shemira can get from Lab, LVL 1 to 161 just use Saveas. Reroll for a decent hero or do or just play on I think it's fine. But up to you.. I love rerolling too th. But @pale kettle is right
pale kettle
Yeah, i love Shem so much rn XD
... but i did roll 4 brutuses in a row, my original starter was nemora...i got insanely lucky
wary wadi
Anyone can give advice how to clear this stage 15-40? 3 days stuck now :/
hearty stream
Obviously it's all about RNG, but it's simply more efficient to get a better start and progress the chapters faster since you'll be gaining more xp per unit of time.
fierce kayak
@pale kettle wow.. op
pine goblet
Help?
pale kettle
WOOOOO FINALLY 9-20 DONE WOW
wary wadi
Arden is not tank jojo
dusky jasper
@pale kettle who did you win it with? im stuck there too
wary wadi
And hogan is faction disadvantage there
pine goblet
Not my actual team, just showing all my available characters
pale kettle
I used this
dusky jasper
ah
hearty stream
9-20 is one of the harder levels. A lot of players get stuck there - don't feel bad and wait it out for a few days like we all did.
pale kettle
I was stuck there for about a week lmao im so happy
modest sail
Any suggestions for Soren? This lineup worked well against Wrizz but isn’t doing much against Soren.
fierce kayak
@pale kettle u not using saveas as carry?
pale kettle
@fierce kayak I did but then someone told me to switch him for arden for cc
Should I use him??? Instead of lyca maybe?
fierce kayak
@pale kettle ic tks
I just curious.. cos someone also use Shemira to carry instead of saveas since Day 1, but he pump hard on Shemira and her equipment
languid sorrel
@modest sail if you have anything that can get behind soren (Thane, Silvina) then that is REALLY strong on him
pale kettle
My Shem gear
languid sorrel
^^ yeah, I would replace arden with another dps/ assassin to get behind soren
pale kettle
I tried saves instead of lyca but he doesn't seem the best in my opinion
modest sail
Nice, I’ll give it a try, thanks!
dim flume
Hard stuck, someone help?
fierce kayak
@pale kettle Ya.. the rng and the stages.. I just change around my line-up until it clears the stage.. Haha.. who cares about top 5 heroes in team.. there is no top 5.. anyone who can help are top heroes..
grim hatch
Stuck at 8-32 is it because I’m underleveled ?
fierce kayak
@dim flume I think you are under leveled and no need force yourself use the celestial and hell heroes. You should use arden
@grim hatch I will use raine of saveas if Saveas not your carry. Raine for light bonus and mage combo
U can also try use Shemira to tank if she is your carry, estilda behind her.
pale kettle
Any advice?
grim hatch
@fierce kayak yeah, I dont do enough dps
somber hemlock
grim hatch
belinda just dies from silvina, then they slowly destroy my whole team. Niru is healing the team
somber hemlock
maybe u lack cc
fierce kayak
@pale kettle erm.. does a faction bonus team works better?
grim hatch
I have a few CC's that I can use arden and nemora but idk who to replace or what lol
somber hemlock
does ur shem survive silvina with 20% hp?
cold tree
http://imgur.com/gallery/Gmyb8Gd
Hi guys, May i know who should i run for Campaign, Arena, Labyrinth and Tower? And who to raise? Thanks!
fierce kayak
@grim hatch some stage need CC.. some don't. For a start you can try my suggestion. If can't then replace with a CC.. play around with your team. I sometimes even use 4 tankers as last resort
grim hatch
Nope my shem doesnt survive long @fierce kayak #7893 #7893 alright I’ll give it a try again later
fierce kayak
If slivia keeps killing u, switch her position or replace her until Silvia is hitting a hero that is not easy for her
grim hatch
Should I make my shemira to lv 121 ? Or should I 121 another char
somber hemlock
@fierce kayak silvina focusses weakest mage always same target
so either his carry dies or belinda/ccer
fierce kayak
@somber hemlock ya.. But some mage is tough against her. Sometimes I swap my mage to anothet position... silvina becomes less effective. I dunno how to explain haha.. but I meant he can just play around his team
grim hatch
Yeah if I try and bring cc, they’d be weaker and die faster giving her energy to ult lol
somber hemlock
i think ur too weak then my shemira always gets hit by silvana at the start of the battle and survives and heals back
dull moon
candid ermine
Hi ! Any Tips for pass this ?
hearty stream
Mirael in the middle of the backline allows her to hit all 5 heroes I think. Now she only damages 3 or 4 with her ultimate.
Sometimes you simply have to AFK and level up for a while. Once reaching level 101 with 5 heroes, you should definitely be able to climb again.
proud thunder
Noob level here but any help on what lineup I should use and if I should level any hero I need for this stage and the ones after
fierce kayak
@proud thunder thogan not that good early stage I fell
humble sky
My whole team always die before any single 1 of the enemies. I’m not underlevled I think. I need help, thanks!
fierce kayak
@humble sky Think u need CC. And u should focus on either seaves of Shemira. Before LVL 161.. saveas is better carry. Thogan not that good early I feel
humble sky
I tried several other tanks like hogan, seirus, estrilda and none of them survive as long as thoran
proud thunder
@fierce kayak I know but I have no other good frontline
hearty stream
Maybe you should try to utilize Belinda, she's always helped me. You can also get Belinda to L already by sacrificing your Mirael and Morvus.
fierce kayak
@humble sky ic. Then it's your carry. Carry should be at least 20 levels ahead of others
humble sky
I see. I will focus on saveas now
tulip elm
Any ideas for teamcomp? I got one suggestion and it doesn’t work for me at all 😦
fierce kayak
Now I really think Lucius is so important to me.. I don't really get stuck early game
austere stag
any suggestions?
pale kettle
Possible? Anything to improve?
hearty stream
I'm not sure whether the level gap between Savaes and the others is a good thing. Maybe it's time to level up the others and check back later.
pale kettle
Thats what I'm doing right now. Saveas needs to stay at 160 or my dmg output is to low. Lvling Lucius to 140 now. But is the team comp good for this stage?
hearty stream
Probably the best you have, yes.
Maybe you could try to work in that Shemira. I'm guessing it's the ascension levels which are holding you back. Especially the Brutus and Athalia.
pale kettle
@hearty stream the level gap is good, but i suggest working your next hero to 161 in the meantime
Seriously, saveas can carry ur ass like guh.
Okay, thanks @hearty stream hope I get one more graveborn elite, so i can lvl my shemira beyond 160 with mythic tier.
Yeah Brutus and Athila are my weakest, but i really need them for faction/cc and damage immunity
tulip elm
Saves doesn’t work for me at all. He’s on 120 currently 😦
pale kettle
He will, you of little faith lol
Gear him, get him to 141 (where his selfheal kicks in). Won't regret it.
The same applies for shemira and brutus at 161
tulip elm
Best teamcomp I had was: Hogan, Belinda, Khasos, Athalia and Esrilda.
pale kettle
@tulip elm saveas is strong af until 160, trust us. Try it like me and you will melt the enemys with the lvl gap
Athilda is going for distracting enemy ardens.
tulip elm
@pale kettle can you take a look at my characters a bit above and tell me who I can connect him with in my comp?
pale kettle
Not much point otherwise because unless you're a whale, you'll not be able to insanely ascend her.
hearty stream
Estrilda or Athalia? Lol.
tulip elm
I made Silvina to Leg and no changes since then
pale kettle
Athalia lol. Estrilda actually becomes quite decent 161 onwards
I've never used silvina, so i can't say. I heard she's a good one for taking out ardens in the event of no athalias
tulip elm
I was using Athalia and depending on situation, fawkes was doing better job then she did
pale kettle
@tulip elm if this was my team, I would try hogan - khasos - saveas - athalia - arden. Rng for cc and crit. To bad that you do not owe lucius
Yeah, depends on stage. Fawkes is brutus killer, ath is arden or general mage killer
tulip elm
@pale kettle thank you 😃 and yeah. I miss not having Lucius :(. I had terrible luck with champions
pale kettle
@tulip elm.. seriously, if you disregard saveas as campaign melter suggestion, there is no hooe for you XD
tulip elm
@pale kettle maybe it’s because my front line is weak af xD
pale kettle
Saveas works as frontline stand-in. Try youtubing. There's a viet contributer who used saveas and brutus at 141 as his frontlines all the way to chp 16
tulip elm
My Saveas is 120 (no hope for upgrades atm) and rest is 105
pale kettle
... more likelihood of pulling more saveas than any ascended hero tbh.
tulip elm
I pulled 350 heroes so far and no luck
pale kettle
Your luck must genuinely be poor.
tulip elm
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neat quail
I have a few questions, if anyone would have a little time to try and answer
pale kettle
Well, so long as you're not like me... i used arden AND saveas legendary+ as fodder
Before realising the error of my ways
tulip elm
All I had was 3 blue saveas so I could get elite
I saved him all the time coz everyone was telling how good he is xD
pale kettle
Yeah, sometimes rng is shit. Just hope for the best
tulip elm
I even used 10x Maulers thing. And still shit.
halcyon comet
pale kettle
You genuinely need saveas to power through chapters 9-14 is my opinion
proud thunder
My frontline (Hogan/Thoran) is really bad and my Shem isn't carrying me as I had hoped, what should I level/replace to help my team not be as bad
halcyon comet
what could i do different? the fight is above
pale kettle
Shem doesn't proper carry til you hit lvl 161. Selfheals ftw.
tulip elm
I’’ stuck on 8-12 right now and 3rd chapter of pillars. I can’t win more than 2 battles there 😦
halcyon comet
@proud thunder use saveas
neat quail
I have 3 legendaries right now (Belinda, nemora, and Niru). most are at or around 121 right now, but I need to work on the rest of my team. Any suggestions who I should be aiming for on the front line?
pale kettle
@neat quailbelinda
proud thunder
@halcyon comet @pale kettle should I just reset Shem and level my Saveas to 90
neat quail
I should belinda on the front line?
halcyon comet
What could i do different here
pale kettle
@proud thunder yes
halcyon comet
@proud thunder yes and get the lvl 80 to lvl 81
proud thunder
Alright thanks and any tips on what my lineup should be with Savaeas
pale kettle
Belinda works best in the middle of the backline.
halcyon comet
@proud thunder use Saveas Thoran Belinda Fawkes and Hogan
neat quail
thanks. I usually have her in the middle, and Niru/Nem I switch up top/bottom depending who I am fighting
pale kettle
If you have a lyca, toss her on the frontline so everyone can get their ults off
neat quail
but my question is, who should I be trying to get for my front line
nocturne peak
Lyca FL?
pale kettle
And you get haste at the start of the battle
nocturne peak
Do you not have a second tank or something? Lol. Doesn' need to be in front to gain the haste buff. Elite Lyca works just as good.
neat quail
I have a Lyca, but she's only purple, not even +1 right now
pale kettle
Sacrificial tank. Experiment, but lyca fl actually works, bizarrely enough (you want everyone to pull off ults while being uninterrupted)
stuck at 8-32
halcyon comet
Stuck at 8-20
pale kettle
Search the discord for 8-32. I remember seeing a lineup that worked for me
Ditto 8-20
neat quail
other than Lyca then on front line, who should I aim for frontline wise? shem? I prefer someone I can build into something to use late game too
pale kettle
Shem can't carry a frontline tbh. Not until she unlocks her self heal at lvl 161.
Use a faction bonus tank? Seiruskaz for wilders, estri/lucius for LB etc
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candid turtle
Im stuck here; is it my being underleveled or is there an easy solution that im missing? Three of them are just elite xD
halcyon comet
try to make saveas as high as possible
candid turtle
👍
halcyon comet
I did 4 on lvl 81 and Saveas as high as possible
lilac lynx
@candid turtle why is Hogan infront of saveas, switch them aroun
pale kettle
My tactic is to just plop brutus in front of the strongest enemy, lyca behind him, hope she gets her ults off while brutus is indisposed
neat quail
thanks for the belinda tip. I went through 5-6 levels just now, can probably do a the rest of chapter 7 with just that simple change
pale kettle
@neat quailgz :)
halcyon comet
what can i do
neat quail
I will still need to find myself a good tank since Hogan and poseidon barely cut it anymore
pale kettle
@halcyon comet in order of appearance, 1. Brutus, 2. Thoran, 3. Saveas, 4. Belinda, 5. Khasos
You REAAAAAALLLY want to kill that niru
halcyon comet
Yeah i tried that he heals up when they kill one of mine so he will always be full hp till all my people died instead of saveas
crisp coral
Hakuba, any ideas on what should I do? getting wrecked lol
neat quail
tomorrow, I will post a screenshot of my champs. I got it wrong, I don't have legendary Niru, I have legendary Vedan
pale kettle
@crisp coralno brutus? *sheepish
candid turtle
@lilac lynx I will, but whys that?
crisp coral
@pale kettle not even close ]=
pale kettle
... i like using athalia to distract spiderbabe if brutus isn't enough to one shot her
lilac lynx
Hogan is a tank and Saveas is a dps it's common sense to put one infront of the other. Even more so in saveas's case
halcyon comet
@crisp coral can you get saveas to lvl 81?
crisp coral
@halcyon comet I need all of the 5 to be at least 61 right?
pale kettle
Definitely, ben
lilac lynx
also enemy units get faction bonus for no reason
pale kettle
... i'm STILL confused abt union buffs tbh. The devs say its only visual, but i disabled pretty much all the union buffs i have, and was able to progress far further than before
halcyon comet
With maxing Saveas you want to win as much time for him as possible
crisp coral
@halcyon comet So like that, and wait till I can lvl Saveas to 81?
Using the formation above Im getting wrecked so bad...
Hogan dies instantly, and Shemi also without even using her DOT
halcyon comet
Yeah try that, always try out to place your guys differntly
pale kettle
Try switching your tanks. Just stick to whatever works better
halcyon comet
and the crits and stuff are random so if you are lucky you can win a hopeless looking fight so always try again over and over i sometimes did 200 attacks on one level to get further
crisp coral
Thats insane
Maybe I should take Lyca off the team?
pale kettle
Chp 14 is entirely rng tbh. Just need to get everyone to a base lvl of 141. (Not on-topic, but seriously, the rng in this game is daft)
halcyon comet
So personally i dont like lyca as much but many people do
Get Athalia in there so reset Lyca for her
pale kettle
Nod. I love lyca, but athalia could do a job for you
crisp coral
Trying, one sec ^_^
halcyon comet
Brutus, Athalia, Shemira are best, but shemira is best at lvl 161 before that you want Saveas instead of her
neon loom
Should I use faction scrolls in any faction other than wilders?
halcyon comet
Wilders 100% get those guys up
pale kettle
Brutus is freaking awesome, so you COULD try, but shemira works well up to lvl 180 without brutus (solo carry). I would advise wilders 100%
And you can get shem from lab shop every month (oh the blue balls... every month)
halcyon comet
@crisp coral i would put the xp of thoran into Shemira
pale kettle
You do get TWO free shems from the game though, so bear that in mind
dim flint
anyone think of maxing thane, especially at legendary
rugged marten
Yes, 1 from chapter 15 completion and oen from a Divine peaks chest
neon loom
Also ppl been telling me I should use arden, who should I replace?
dim flint
a fantastic replacement ofa second tank if hes in your lineup, seems to do a ridiculous amount of damage to brutus, procing him early.
crisp coral
WAAAAAA
It worked with Athalia instead of Lyca! thanks!!
pale kettle
@neon loomall-time best cc backline is lyca, tasi, arden
halcyon comet
No problem ❤
pale kettle
Swap out one of em for nemora in the case of lab or when you need heals
rugged marten
Not necessarily @pale kettle there are other teams which could keep up with that amount of CC honestly
pale kettle
@rugged marten generally i guess? I'm still only at chp 16, and i already dread the future XD
rugged marten
Rng gets crazy honestly, Nemora's charm is game changing honestly, btw Ferael at level 201 and above is probably the best CC hero in the game (only my personal opinion)
halcyon comet
Are there Heroes that give passive buffs or buffs at the beginning of the fight, because i could replace these with heroes that die instant in a fight
pale kettle
But seriously, i do think most clutch heroes turn up from the wilders faction
neon loom
So use seirus-ezizh-athalia-arden-lyca and swap arden for nemora when I need heals?
rugged marten
You have no dps in that honestly, Athalia is more single-out CC than anything
pale rover
Wilders have a great pool of heroes, yes. And very necessary to have cc in end game.
pale kettle
@rugged marten most have an elite+ athalia. Does she cut it in later stages?
rugged marten
I've never used my Athalia becuase personally, I don't see the big deal about her, I can see how and why some people swar by her, but there's many heroes that are just as useful, and 3 times as easy to increase ascension levels, which will in turn help your progress
halcyon comet
Hogan or Thoran better?
dire edge
11-36 Is it possible 
?
pale kettle
@rugged marten... since you're here (happy days), which hero would be best to pick from arena shop?
rugged marten
@halcyon comet depends what stage and your lineup, neither is objectively better than the other at every point in the game and in any comp
halcyon comet
so just try out=
pale rover
@dire edge Khasos + Saveas opponent will eat your bottom line.
You might need a sturdier tank.
pale kettle
I'm thinking of going for ezizh since that's the only one i don't have... but eh.
rugged marten
@pale kettle depends what you're after, Fawkes is a staple hero, I'm personally spamming Ezizh in it but recommend against doing so, as its almost x2 as expensive and pays off much slower, Grezhul is a fantastic tank later on too, and works wonders vs Soren due to distraction, as well as a soft counter to mages with his team-wide magic damage reduction
pale kettle
@rugged marten noted, thanks!
astral iris
Pretty stuck here at 9-38 any suggestions?
rugged marten
@astral iris who does Fawkes coffin?
astral iris
he coffins the graveborn mage
I just don't seem to have enough damage/survivability. Vedan eats my Lucius before he can get an ult off, typically Fawkes also dies before that would be able to happen as well.
distant cobalt
Who are the two best front-line characters at the moment?
pale kettle
Brutus and lucius sub lvl 161, brutus and shemira after
rugged marten
Might be worth switching to Wilder to try and CC them instead, Estrilda is better on later on, Lucius is a staple tank overall, Fawkes is usually best used when he can trap the hero you need him to trap @astral iris
distant cobalt
What are some lucius alternatives? I can't seem to pull him
rugged marten
@pale kettle Shemira can only frontline for so long, once you get to around chapter 22ish, she becomes squishy again due to the enemies levels vs your own
astral iris
Yeah I've tried swapping out Fawkes and Estrilda for Nemora and Arden but then I end up getting wiped faster lol
pale kettle
Me neither XD. I can see how he'd be supremely useful (using mythic versions of lucius from caravans), but i've not had the luck to pull him EVER.
astral iris
I'm a single Lucius pull from getting him to legendary, perhaps that will make a noticeable difference at that point.
rugged marten
@astral iris make sure you maintain at least a 3-1-1 faction bonus for your team
pale kettle
@rugged marten thank youuuuu... extra question (sorry for being a pest), which to 181 first? Brutus or Shemira?
rugged marten
I'd recommend getting Saveas ascended to L+ and getting him to 141, the damage increase is ridiculous and will let you get to chapter 14 without too many hiccups, don't use any ascended heroes as fodder to do so, just a little patience
@pale kettle definitely Shemira, prioritise her level over Brutus always if you can
pale kettle
Sankyuu!!!
astral iris
@rugged marten thanks for the tips! I never use ascended for fodder. I'll try using Khasos in there with Nemora and Arden supports. Let's roll the dice!
candid pollen
still oar
Ira will kill ur shem
pale kettle
... you have enough CC XD
half cloud
im stuck at 4-36, tips for build?
pale kettle
Who kills you first? Niru or zedan?
rugged marten
@astral iris sometimes it's just a matter of RNG honestly, lemme pull up a replay of me essentially headbutting a wall until I passed it
pale kettle
@half cloud ok, everyone at 0 xp, i suppose try to go faction bonus... hogan, brutus, estrilda, thane and mirael
@rugged marten shemira gives me extreme anxiety.... she goes from 0 to 100% hp just like that
I'm stuck on 9-28, any suggestions?
rugged marten
@pale kettle don't suppose you've seen this vid before?
pale kettle
@rugged marten geeeeeezus, absolute unit.
astral iris
@rugged marten haha wow. Shem is busted. That's crazy. I am definitely getting closer using the Khasos and double wilder cc comp. Another 100 attempts and maybe it will work out haha
idle oracle
Stuck at 6.20
pale kettle
Shemira OP but rn she's not very good for me :/
rugged marten
Shem is only as good as that once she gets above 161, using her before hand sometimes holds you back so I wouldn't recommend committing to Shem carry until you can 161 her and 141 your crystal
@pale kettle who does Fawkes trap?
astral iris
Yeah I'm still working on ascending her and Nemora via lab purchases
pale kettle
Isabella @rugged marten
Yeah, i resolutely had her on the backburner after chapter 9 after realising she did eff all damage wise and looking at these vids guhhhhh
half cloud
@pale kettle is it better to increase the xp to all of them or better focussing on brutus?
pale kettle
Just ends up dropping her on the other side to screw them over more tbh, not much help
@half cloud that will seriously depend on who you get during pulls
rugged marten
Try Arden instead of him instead @pale kettle give it 10 tries and lemme know how it goes
pale kettle
@half cloud while you're not at hero lvl 161, i would suggest you pump all and any resources into saveas
@rugged marten ok, he usually dies from silvina but ill go run it again, cant hurt
(He is easy to max, and no one has noooo idea how strong he gets
rugged marten
Drop Belinda's defence so Silvina targets her instead
half cloud
@pale kettle i have elite saveas in mission
pale kettle
@half cloud put all further resources into him, max him at lvl 160
half cloud
ok
pale kettle
@half cloudhe is soooo fantastic he'll carry you throughout
half cloud
i'll try, thank you 😃
pale kettle
(I know, i was skeptical too)
woven comet
rugged marten
Yeah, Legendary+ Saveas is a monster so definitely work on him
idle oracle
stuck at 6-20 need ur help guys
astral iris
@rugged marten yooo it worked! even with my awful straight elite Khasos, chapter 10 lets goooo!
rugged marten
Nemora bottom, keep retrying whenever she doesn't charm Arden
woven comet
So shem in middle?
rugged marten
Shem front, Brutus will take aggro from Ira
woven comet
rugged marten
You wanna make sure Hogan gets rooted too, so he doesn't knock up Shem, interrupting her, I'd say Arden middle and Lyca to support Brutus
woven comet
Enemy arxen goes qay faster thab my guys
rugged marten
Put your best boots on either Nemora or Arden
idle oracle
okay i got to 6- 24 now but im not making any real progress?
rugged marten
@idle oracle sometimes you just need to afk for exp and dust to get over stages
pale kettle
@rugged marten i just kept changing my back line order and running it ab 3-5 times each and i finally did it!! Thanks a lot
idle oracle
@rugged marten okay would u change my comp?
pale kettle
I need to stop making belinda carry me with her ult lmao
rugged marten
Yeah, you need better continuous dps, not relying on an Ult to kill everyone a lot of the time @pale kettle
pale kettle
Raine and savaes are my only dps but savaes needs to get E+
rugged marten
@idle oracle I'd say get working on a Saveas ASAP, your Khasos works fantastic with him
idle oracle
@rugged marten and who shall i change for him
rugged marten
I don't know who you use mostly @idle oracle
idle oracle
@rugged marten shemira is my fav
rugged marten
She is a god, but only after 161 honestly, until you can, do that, you're better off focusing on other heroes instead of her
pale kettle
You don't lose her, you put her on the substitutes bench until she's OP
idle oracle
but she carried me a lot of times already
pale kettle
I benched her for 2 story chapters... in favour of saveas... bet decision ever
neon loom
Brutus nodes honestly grind my gears
idle oracle
so do u think berlinda is better than her on this level?
pale kettle
@idle oracle that just tells me you have not seen a saveas carry
idle oracle
no tbh
pale kettle
... shemira is very very average at this level. I was like you. I looked at the tier list. I thought, ooh, i have shemira dupes. I can probably have her carry me til past lvl 160 and not have to worry about it!
rugged marten
^
pale kettle
But seriously, everyone hero level 160 and below, bow to saveas.
idle oracle
so saveas instead of shemira?
rugged marten
That's what a lot of people think, Shem in practice isn't great until she gains her constant heal from her Ult, which ties into her crit chance and damage, due to having more health at any point
pale kettle
YES.
lavish tapir
I mean
It's true that after 161 she just becomes unstopable, but she kinda carried me even before then
idle oracle
should i also use duraks mercy on him?
lavish beacon
I'm in need of help, I am stuck on 8-17 and can't seem to move forward, Kings Tower is another tough one (I am on 107)... do I have the right heroes or should I promote/demote some?
pale kettle
@lavish tapirnever to the same level of difference levelling up a saveas does.
lavish tapir
I had both
neon loom
Any tips how to counter brutus?
idle oracle
use duras mercy?
lavish tapir
So yeah, can't tell which one were better cause i had both overlevel
pale kettle
You probably stubbornly relied on shem tbh. I'm less than player lvl 80 and i'm in chp 16.
rugged marten
Dura's grace I belice it translates to, duras call and dura's blade work better on Shemira, but grace has a place on her from time to time
rugged marten
@idle oracle you make sure Saveas is the last one to get attacked, by putting your best frontline in front of him etc.
halcyon comet
help
pale kettle
Keep trying. I spend a lof of time just clicking start despite being underlevelled
sacred adder
Any chance?
pale kettle
Sometimes you get lucky (this does not apply to levels beyond the realms of possibility)
Pretty good chance,play with your layout
rugged marten
@sacred adder make Silvina target a mage behind Brutus, so she gets stuck on him
wary matrix
Any advice Guys? Stuck for ages
forest shadow
I'm only on 5-4 and keep getting annoyed and reset my team, only started 3 days ago and I'm f2p, bar a 0.89 purchase because I thought the game was worth it
What do? I can get 3 to 61, then 57 and 50
sacred adder
@rugged marten same strat on this 1 as well? or do I need swap outs seems like I just need more levels
runic flower
So I’m really stuck on 10-32 now.. any advice ?
pale kettle
@sacred adder , try using nemora and arden in the backline lower two spots. Getting golus to thump niru is a fiiiiine thing. But seriously, cc heroes add so much bizarre rng that they can turn the tide in favour of your team
sour rivet
I am stuck at 9-16, what do you think would be a good lineup versus that ascended Nemora ?
runic flower
@sour rivet Drop khassos, add Arden in there.. will help you a ton with the roots
sacred adder
@pale kettle keep brutus and sav in with hogan?
runic flower
Also, have Saveas kill Ogi first. he goes down quickly @sour rivet
pale kettle
@sacred adder yep, in those positions i think. The idea is to be able to wipe out niru since he heals on enemy kills
Any advice on this?
runic flower
I would switch lyca with arden tbh.. he helps you more on those levels
and maybe try nemore instead of fawkes
pale kettle
@pale kettle no saveas no party XD (i kid). Stuff backline with CC heroes
sour rivet
Hey it actually worked, thanks a bunch @runic flower
harsh spoke
Kinda stumped here, I almost got it with this lineup but they heal too much. Any ideas?
pale kettle
@harsh spoke i'd try athalia opposite vedan or niru... to mess up their initial attacks. Frontline can try swapping hogan and lucius about, see who survives better.
runic flower
@sour rivet Glad it did man, grats
robust magnet
Any advice please?
potent oar
Haaaalp 🤪😂
fallen temple
Any advice?
harsh spoke
Thanks @pale kettle ha, switching athalia worked after some insanely lucky RNG on my part
fallen temple
knotty plinth
Any advice on what I can use as a team here
ivory swan
Currently stuck on 9-38, any suggestions?
fair ridge
Are niru and Isabella worth something or fodder?
coral solar
Help
maiden cargo
hearty stream
@fair ridge Isabella can be good. Niru is definitely fodder though.
fair ridge
@hearty stream Thanks!
frail maple
ivory swan
Any help?
coral solar
Ugh @ivory swan
@frail maple brutus infront take put vedan khasos and the other one infront
@opaque token add Belinda and estrilda and find some1else compatible with belinda and estrilda
Put tanks infront
crisp coral
Any ideas? ... this Brutus oneshot everyone.
Maybe I should use Estrilda somehow/
coral solar
@crisp coral reset the lvl of your team put everyone same lvl take put saveas and put vedan instead
runic snow
Stuck on 10-22, any ideas on if I can beat it or should I wait a bit longer to level
crisp coral
@coral solar srsly? been told that Saveas should carry me , how come your suggestion is taking him out?
coral solar
@runic snow try use shemira and vedan maybe
gilded fractal
any help? thanks !!!
runic snow
I’ll try vedan+shemira, tried shemira and got as close as the current lineup
frigid veldt
Also stuck at 10-22. I have an open spot in my Resonating Crystal too.
ivory swan
@coral solar What's "Ugh" for?
coral solar
@crisp coral because try get your entire team the same faction, savaes the only one of his faction on your team right now, you can get bonuses if you do that
rugged marten
@frigid veldt put Brutus up top because Saveas will rip apart any other frontline
coral solar
@frigid veldt use Belinda and your other legendary forgot his name instead of your forest chars
vast parcel
@ivory swan i am also stuck on 9-38,since nearly 1 week. Batman and Alfred are killing me in tag team
runic snow
Sick I beat 10-22 thanks
coral solar
Always put maûlers infront they are the tanks
hearty stream
This is my current top 10 heroes. Are there any obvious resets I can do to progress? Note that my Savaes is not L+, I need one more E copy of him to get him to L+.
ivory swan
@vast parcel I can't even get Ezizhs or Lucius ulti off, Vexan kills me too fast
coral solar
Np @runic snow
@hearty stream id say use belinda Lucius brutus savaes and the pink hair one
@hearty stream reset belinda and put everyone same lvl
hearty stream
I think Belinda's extra buff is more worth than having everyone on the same level.
coral solar
Makes the rest of the team weak though
teal moat
Ely, at your current level, Mirael would be even better than Belinda until 160
daring topaz
hearty stream
I don't possess a L or L+ Mirael unfortunately. Should I reset my Belinda after getting my Savaes up to L+?
coral solar
@daring topaz try Hogan belinda lucius nemora and the gnome one
teal moat
@daring topaz put hogan in front of ogi, saveas behind hogan (kill ogi, he's not that tough). Belinda behind lucius, and arden+nemora
coral solar
@teal moat what you think about that
errant lagoon
Should I buy anyone or wait
outer mirage
Shemira is a good pick.
hearty stream
Shemira is really good for later on.
teal moat
@coral solar
Silvina
Lucius
Shemira
Estrilda
Belinda
Try this
coral solar
@errant lagoon last time it reset there was no new char
rugged marten
The only stores that change their stuff is the general store (that sells dust, gear etc.) and the guild store, all others simply replenish their stock
coral solar
^
@teal moat i got wreck lol
rugged marten
Shemira isn't that useful until 161 to be honest, she is an absolute monster, yes, but she needs her Ult healing her continuously or else she gets run through like paper, Saveas until you can 161 Shem with a 141 crystal is the best bet
spice abyss
Pretty much hardstuck on 9-20 guys, is lvl up the only way to go here?
rugged marten
Take out Ira and Estrilda and put in Khasos and Saveas
coral solar
@spice abyss belinda instead of nemora
rugged marten
@spice abyss try to aim for a 3-1-1 faction bonus instead
woeful portal
Khasos dies in the nick of a second against Hodan
teal moat
i just dont get it honestly, i went through those levels with much less power x)
guys just keep fighting everytime, your RNG will come up positive for one fight
coral solar
@woeful portal put saveas instead of ira and switch hogan with estrilda
rugged marten
@woeful portal Khasos isn't used for his stats, it's for his life leech he grants to Saveas
teal moat
@coral solar try switching places with your tanks, maybe use tasi, nemora, athalia in the backline
i always loved how athalia can disrupt the mobs
rugged marten
And yeah, frontline Hogan, it's not a good idea to put him backline when he's probably one of your best tanks due to ascension levels etc.
coral solar
@teal moat true but them being only élite+ makes em so weak
teal moat
@coral solar doesnt matter that much about their ascension, what matters is the control you have on the fight x)
coral solar
I know that but their hp so low they get one hit lol
quartz girder
Need help with 9-20
My units: https://i.redd.it/28v9ho36r7y21.jpg
9-20: https://i.redd.it/91a3oh67r7y21.jpg
Thanks in advance
wide nova
Hi i need help. I can't really connect with my clan, since i get the notification on what they are saying, but if i enter the game and i go to the clan chat, i see sh*t, nothing related to what my notification says. Idk if there is a technique to see what you clan members write or not. need help
viscid hazel
@wide nova Customer Support is in discord try pm him
left ravine
What is the best lineup i can make with this?
unkempt spire
Reliov get all ur top 5 ppl to lv 61, run hogan/vedan front line, the other 3 back line (fire girl, assassain girl, and isabella)
Use fire mage in back center, the other 2 shouldnt make much of a difference either top back or bottom back
Id say in order, u should make vedan and hogan 61, then silvina, then fire mage, then isabella last, just reset vedan level and dont lvl him past 61 till all are at 61
molten temple
Hello. I need some advice here. Should I go for Mythic Estrilda as soon as I get another E+ or just ascend some other Lightbringer to L and keep Hogan for now?
coral solar
@quartz girder try hogan thane belinda nemora tasi
unkempt spire
I still need some help on mine also whenever someone gets a moment
coral solar
@unkempt spire try samething as i said to nj
Reset savaes and upgrade the rest of your team
unkempt spire
Nah. Saveas is must have for me
quartz girder
@coral solar That's too many lightbringers. Hogan can't tank triple graveborn.
coral solar
@left ravine your top5 just put them on the same lvls
hexed briar
This is my lineup right now I just can’t get past this stage so cancer lmao, should I work on replacing any of them? ( currently I’m planning on getting Shemira and Nemora) but idk who to remove and keep
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/577926400057540619/image0.png
coral solar
@unkempt spire you dont have much to go with savaes lol
left ravine
@unkempt spire Thanks dude
potent oar
Need Help
unkempt spire
Saveas doesnt need much to go with. Its saveas lol... i just need a tank in front of him and some cc to help him have time to melt everyone
Early/mid game saveas is easily my most sought after to use
coral solar
Well try your top 4 with nemora @unkempt spire idk
hexed briar
Is saveas that good?
nocturne peak
Savaes is 👌 'till 160.
coral solar
Personally I dont like it lol
unkempt spire
Im at 6-36 at level 41 just bc of saveas and like kings tower 95 and arena rank 16 all bc of saveas
hexed briar
lets say I pick him up, who should I replace him with?
coral solar
Never used savaes I’m at tower 145 lol
unkempt spire
Hmm.. well in my opinion if your saveas is the same rank as your belinda id swap the 2 of them... id say tasi but you dont have a ton of cc outside of her on your team
Unless u wanna go full dps then swap tasi for saveas
If you swap tasi for saveas id say in this order, run hypogean, argus, athalia, belinda, saveas
left ravine
@unkempt spire check DM
crisp coral
@coral solar , your suggestion of replacing Saveas with Vedan worked.
Now Im stuck again and wonder which hero should I lvl up? I got resources
coral solar
@crisp coral nice one id need to see
crisp coral
Forgot to send the image Lulz
coral solar
@rich rapids Lucius belinda savaes Hogan skreg
hexed briar
@unkempt spire argus?
unkempt spire
Oops
coral solar
@crisp coral Hogan athalia estrilda with shemira thoran
tranquil hill
This is what I used for 9-20 @rich rapids
coral solar
Or @rich rapids Arden shemira nemora ghrezul vedan
crisp coral
@coral solar
@Ben Hogan athalia estrilda with shemira thoran
Thanks!, should I lvl up athalia/shemira to 81?
Like that I'm still getting wrecked but mb lvling someone would help
coral solar
@crisp coral make everyone same lvl lol
neon condor
Can anyone help me with 10-36 😭
coral solar
@urban hazel belinda Hogan raine brutus ahkriha
crisp coral
@coral solar
@Ben make everyone same lvl lol
Really? isn't it worth lvling one of them to 81 to get the extra skill , for example Shemira AOE would be 30% stronger
coral solar
@neon condor khasos instead of nemora and switch shemira with greZul
urban hazel
Isnt akhira bad or something?
coral solar
@urban hazel yes but it will give you faction bonuses
hexed briar
who should I get from the Labyrinth store? Nemora or Shemira?
coral solar
@crisp coral not worth it in my opinion lol
@hexed briar depends if you can ascend
hexed briar
I cant ascend either of them but id be closer to Shemira
coral solar
And depends who suit the best your team
hexed briar
this is my current lineup https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441477431501783062/577926400057540619/image0.png
rich rapids
I got it w Luc, Belinda, Hogan, Nemora, & Sav
coral solar
Try hogan instead of tasi @hexed briar and put hogan infront
robust magnet
Any advice please?
coral solar
Nice @rich rapids
hexed briar
and put Hogan where inthe front? Lucius in the back?
hexed briar
and Ezizh in theback im guessing
coral solar
Yea
coral solar
@ember nebula try get more elites by ascending em it will help a lot
sick tulip
well u only have 5 elites and i would just use them xd
ember nebula
Lol ok
sick tulip
white sedge
Looking for some friendly advice, toons max at 160 can’t seem to get pulls I want for mythic (was trying graveborn team) stuck 12-40 for a while see team below
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/577614029900480532/image0.png
coral solar
@sick tulip belinda Lucius estrilda savaes shemira?
sick tulip
The tanks got 1 shot by Saveas and brutus and i didnt kill anyone xd
coral solar
@sick tulip i had same problem lol what I did I put 2 tanks same side lol
sick tulip
i got good backline people but not very good front line people
coral solar
@white sedge try lvl up to 161
white sedge
@coral solar that issue I cant get 161 cant pull cards to get mythic, so do I give up on some graveborn just to push others
sick tulip
Just make Shem Mythic + @white sedge, she will carry u 161+
crisp snow
Stuck at 4-32 I tried using 5 of the same types as Vedan and also with the tank can't seem to beat it
coral solar
@crisp snow make everyone same lvl
sick tulip
Why is Vedan like 50 levels higher than anyone else @crisp snow xd i would do that for Ferrel or Ezizh
white sedge
@coral solar mythic Shemira?
coral solar
Yes
crisp snow
Isn't vedan good ?
coral solar
Not the best @crisp snow
crisp snow
So out of the squad who shoudl i level next ?
coral solar
Make all your elites the same lvl @crisp snow
Youre not supposed to stuck until 6-36 atleast
crisp snow
out of the elites i have which would be the best to level ?
coral solar
Your 1st 5
crisp snow
okay
i was thinking the horse lady hogan silvina fareal and vedan
so i get the 3+2 faction bonus unless u think ezizh would be much better than estrilda (horse lady)
coral solar
Both can be good ezhiz gives +30% himself in faction
crisp snow
so ezizh the reason is cause in about 30 mins i will ger my hogan to elite+
Where do u see the 30% increase for himself in the faction btw?
crisp snow
okay ill try the first 5 as u said but is there any way to see where hte 30% bonus thing is for ezizh?
coral solar
There
crisp coral
Simm what do you think?, Tried with Shem instead of Vedan but she died one shot ...
crisp snow
what evel is that ben ?
lavish tapir
Hey @ivory goblet u there?
crisp coral
@crisp snow 5-40
ivory goblet
Yes
lavish tapir
Would u take a look at my lineup real quick? I'd like ur opinion 😄 @ivory goblet
ivory goblet
Sure, send a screenshot :)
lavish tapir
There's something not clicking about it and I'm not sure what it is. I can make my lyca leg+ but I don't know if that would fix it
Top 5 is what I use.
ivory goblet
Hmm you shouldn't use Saveas AND Shemira
lavish tapir
Also not sure what should my next big step. Who to focus and so on. Shemira is what I've been focusing but idk if I should keep it like that or not. I basically rely on her. She either kill everyone or I don't pass the stage
ivory goblet
Only Shemira at this level is enough
lavish tapir
So should I put lyca leg+ for saveas?
ivory goblet
Shemira+Brutus+Nemora+Arden+Lyca
If it doesn't work, replace Arden by Tasi (Same but different timing for cc)
lavish tapir
Also the fact that Shemira in front work most of the times but vs DPS heavy stages it doesn't work, and I don't have a good ascended tank
ivory goblet
Yes replace Saveas by Lyca
You can use Lyca on frontline
And put shemira behind Brutus on hard dps formation
lavish tapir
Got it
ivory goblet
Lyca is just needed at the start, after this she is a meatshield
Untill you get everyone to 240 for sure
lavish tapir
And now, what to lvl next, Shemira brutus or nemora
rugged marten
@lavish tapir Shemira, always prioritise your carry, general rule of thumb goes
Carry > frontline (to protect carry) > Rest of team
lavish tapir
Well as you can see that's what I've been doing but at lvl 161 the ultimates improve
ivory goblet
Shemira then Brutus then Nemora
lavish tapir
Understod, thank you
rugged marten
161 Shem is a beast, 141 Brutus is one of his biggest improvements so aim for them, then 141 the rest of your team ( if applicable)
ember nebula
Stuck on 5-20 should i just let afk go and get the gear to power up or and suggestions?
ivory goblet
No problem. Also you have everyone at 160. You should put Shemira at 200.
lavish tapir
I'm past that @rugged marten 😂
ivory goblet
Before upgrading anyone else
lavish tapir
Yeah I know I'm just dust walled and recently just ascended Shemira, will work on that @ivory goblet
rugged marten
I only just joined the conversation 😂😂 but yeah, max Shem, follow with Brutus and then the rest like below
ivory goblet
Shem should always have at least 20 more levels yes
lavish tapir
@rugged marten it's ok, my screenshot is a bit above
Gotcha, will do that. Time to keep saving dust I guess
ivory goblet
Yup ^^
rugged marten
So it is 😂😂 you have quite a nice amount of fodder to upgrade, level 200 Shem is a monster but takes a while to get there, and once the same level, Brutus can keep pace with her for certain, Nemora is mostly used for her charm for me personally, becuase she's usually dead before she ults
pale kettle
can someone help me with line up for 3-36?
ivory goblet
@ember nebula You should be able to win this try with the formation bonus (replace Khasos by Raine)
Always send screenshot when asking for help ^^
ember nebula
K
coral solar
@crisp coral reset hogan and lvl up everyone the same lvl
crisp coral
Trying, will let you know in a sec
ember nebula
So just tried with this lineup and lost