#lineup-help

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thin kite
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Tried a whole lot already and I think im on the right track in understanding the game only got legendary shemira yesterday so perhaps ill have to dump exp in her now

still oar
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Have u tried saveas instead of bel

pale rover
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@thin kite Grez in front not working due to ascension?

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And yes, Saveas.

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Like my lineup ^

thin kite
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I havent dumped belinda in a while mainly cause i think sav needs 121. Also my agility gear is low while my padded armor is quite decent kinda think I need to spend some diamonds on legendary+ gear for lucius

pale rover
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Nah don't spend diamonds on gear unless it's Mythic tier 40% off from Arcane Lab.

thin kite
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Many say thats not smart to do until you can obtaib mythic gear

nocturne peak
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Aero fell asleep helping me last night? ๐Ÿ˜‚

pale rover
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It's never worth it otherwise.

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I often fall asleep on lineup-help tbh

fossil moth
thin kite
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Alright thanks ill give sav a shot

nocturne peak
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Lol I figured, it's ok, we shall try again later, working atm.

still oar
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You could try tasi ogi
Khasos nem sav

fossil moth
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Any tips for 7-40?

thin kite
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My biggest issue on 920 is my front getting destroyed before tasi can use her ultimate

still oar
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Do you have Arden. Arden works better than tasi, I think, on that level. You only need to buy time for sav to kill vedan and IRA.

thin kite
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He is only blue

wind orchid
still oar
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It'll do as long as he can survive to root. He's in for the root not damage

thin kite
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I think ill have to wait for tomorrow to summon another 10 heros with friend tokens and up my squad with a total of 2 levels each then I shouls be able to make it then I can buy 2700 pack again and thay should help

astral lodge
thin kite
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Yea figured ill give it a shot have 1 reso spot open. Maybe the nazeebo looking mauler dude is an idea for future stages the totemic dude

astral lodge
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Don't know what to ascend here and stuck on 8-32

fallen olive
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@fossil moth get saveas to 120 before getting others to 100

still oar
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Wait for another legendary tier e+ and have saveas at l+ and max him @astral lodge

fallen olive
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@wind orchid saveas to lvl 100 and easy progress

astral lodge
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@still oar then I focus brut or belinda?

pale kettle
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Any tips to beat 9-40?

still oar
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Brut. Save Brutus combo can go along way.
Such as
Brut tank/cc
Sav cc cc
Or
Brut tank/cc
Cc cc sav

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@pale kettle IAM sorry but I don't remember the stage

astral lodge
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I don't get what you meant @still oar xD sorry. What sav cc cc? Is that formation?

still oar
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Cc is for crowd control heroes such as Arden nemora tasi and the like. Those are heroes positioning

willow plaza
fallen olive
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Ideas on what should I start focusing on now? Originally plan was to max saveas to 161 and go shemira past that, but wilder/mauler seems much more reasonable now. Coul kaz carry past 161?

willow plaza
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Any advice?

fallen olive
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@willow plaza switch saveas and lucius, focus on killing niru first

willow plaza
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Silv kills backline pretty fast

fallen olive
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Also replace shemira with fawkes for 3+2 bonus

still oar
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@fallen olive sav capped at 160. If you want to use Mauler wilder combo use Mauler as dps and wilder cc

willow plaza
fallen olive
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@still oar yup, i hope ill be able to get brutus copies to make him carry once saveas cant lvl highee

still oar
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@willow plaza Brut luc
Fawk kha sav. Who is silv's target?

willow plaza
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Khasos @still oar

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Everyone dies so fast ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

still oar
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Can you raise the base level? Especially nemora to tank silv

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If you could try this
Ogi Bru
Lyca nem sav

velvet linden
willow plaza
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Nemora is so squishy. And itโ€™s hard to raise since iโ€™ll have to go through the people on the pentagon too

still oar
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Well u need some one to tank/bait silvina. And she's the best candidate

willow plaza
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Silv usually one shots everyone she goes on :(((

velvet linden
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She does.

fallen olive
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@willow plaza line up brutus agains niru and saveas bottom and prio is that niru gets blown up first. Then for rest you want them to just stay alive untill niru dies, you also need the 3 of same faction +2 of same faxtion bonuses and saveas should handle the rest

still oar
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Then I am afraid you are not strong enough to rng

willow plaza
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Okay okay

fallen olive
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@velvet linden max your saveas out, get him to 100 before leveling others. He will 1-2 shot the enemies snd carry you really hard

mental fern
willow plaza
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ thank you @fallen olive i did it

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๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•

still oar
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@willow plaza๐Ÿ‘

fallen olive
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@mental fern havent done that one yet but I assume niru keeps healing up as the enemy assassins kill your backline and you don't really have time to get ults going?

faint anvil
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@mental fern try to swap arden and lyca's positions and raise arden's defense to be higher than nemora

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Khasos axe can intercept arden's root casting

narrow thicket
fallen olive
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And since you can't level anyone past 140 atm looks to me like you will get it once things get strong enough to not die before ults

narrow thicket
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Besting fawkes and tasi is so cancer without your own :(

mental fern
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Okey I Will try ... Ahhh IV the problem its more Silvina She kill very fast my aiden

faint anvil
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Yes

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Silvina aims the weakest mage, thats why try to incrs arden's defense so she targets nemora and stun her first and arden could get his roots off

mental fern
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Shankiu I Will try rn

round verge
faint anvil
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If it doesnt work, then i guess u need to be afk more, get levels and ascencions ๐Ÿ˜‚ @mental fern

mental fern
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@faint anvil Maybe ๐Ÿ˜‚

round verge
pale kettle
round verge
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Thoughts on best vs 10-8?

velvet linden
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@fallen olive Should I relevel my highest and make Sav 81?

pale kettle
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How to beat 9-20

fallen olive
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@velvet linden yup, just max saveas always whe you can pretty much. Since his damage scales with his hp, overleveled saveas is stupid strong

boreal hull
faint anvil
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@boreal hull try to put belinda and shemira as tanks

fallen olive
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@boreal hull replace shem with brutus

faint anvil
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If it doesnt work, afk more to get levels and ascenciona xD

stuck spire
boreal hull
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ok ^_^ thanks for the advice

stuck spire
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Faction scrolls that is

faint anvil
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@stuck spire wilder for sure, pray that u will get lyca and tasi. U will be super strong

stuck spire
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Better than 4 mauler aura?

faint anvil
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@stuck spire cc is always better than dps

stuck spire
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Still learning ๐Ÿค” thanks

faint anvil
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Try lyca nemora arden or lyca nemora tasi. U will be satisfied seeing enemy cant move xD

stuck spire
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Sac Ulmus to legend Nemora yes?

turbid kraken
faint anvil
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Yessss u are not going to use him xD

turbid kraken
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someone help me how i can beat this? pretty please, stuck for so long tasi

fallen olive
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@turbid kraken reset shem to 101 and throw all xp on saveas till hes 140

stuck spire
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And move merman to front line, I would think

faint anvil
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No, merman will die instantly to golus

stuck spire
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Merman 1 Luc 2?

fallen olive
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Also use atleast 3 of same faction

round verge
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Swap mer for fawkes maybe.

stuck spire
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^^

round verge
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Then you'd have extra cc and triple lightbearer

still oar
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@turbid kraken use Fawkes' instead of serius

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Put silvina's target near sav tank golus and attack from above

rich acorn
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Hey guys.new here.Any ideas on how I get past this lvl?

normal echo
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Which lvl is it?

rich acorn
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@normal echo 8-32

pale kettle
elfin cargo
fallen olive
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@rich acorn switch belinda ezizh to nemora tasi and golus to thoran

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@pale kettle 9-40?

pale kettle
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9-20 /:

fallen olive
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@pale kettle put saveas on trees place, replace tree with fawkes for faction bonus

pale kettle
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Ty

near mist
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@elfin cargo GB or wilder, you are good to go, even LB

tame apex
turbid kraken
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will try, thanks guys
brb

rich acorn
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@fallen olive didnt work...yet I can definitely see something here with this.Thanks for the help!

turbid kraken
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@rich acorn were stuck on the same lvl lol

near mist
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@tame apex try lucius, ezzih, nemora, tasi, arden

cerulean niche
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Newbie here about 1week in, no clue what to focus on

tame apex
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@near mist thank you i will!

near mist
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If it's not working, tell me

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@cerulean niche
Thoran, grezhul, Shemira, nemora, saveas
Or
Hogan, Grezhul, shemira, athalia, nemora/Belinda

white raven
lament pawn
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Hey, I am presently running all of these 4+ Lucius. Which one should I prioritize ascending next? I feel like itโ€™s Fawkes or Belinda.

normal echo
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Good choice

craggy canyon
near mist
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@white raven who does silv jumps to?

cerulean niche
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Goburin i was running setup 1 but my tanks die really quick, should i equalize their levels or focus on shemira till 101 then saveas 101?

turbid kraken
white raven
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Fawkes

near mist
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@craggy canyon arden, you can make him L+

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@lament pawn go for Fawkes sake

white raven
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If Belinda & fawkes is in the same team, she jumps to bel

near mist
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@white raven indeed, silvina always jump to mage with lowest defense

lament pawn
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Lul, I approve. Fawkes is my fav character ingame. I'm debating doing it just for that reason. I do care a lot about progressing though...heh @near mist

near mist
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@cerulean niche equalize first, try to make everyone at least 81. That's a huge milestone

turbid kraken
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still can't do it, don't have enough to make saveas 140

near mist
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@white raven try to put nemora and arden instead of fawkes and luci
Tell me if it's working

cerulean niche
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So thats where im going wrong. Alright so 81 is a milestone to hit, what should i keep in mind when recreating a setup in future? I saw Shemira as a "solo carry" so i pumped everything into her

tame apex
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@near mist that worked! Lol thanks for the suggestion

turbid kraken
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please help senpai

still oar
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@turbid kraken do you have the dust for serius?

lament pawn
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Look for hitting the levels that boost your hero's skills. It is often more impactful to focus on 1 character until they get a big skill boost before leveling another. You can see the level benchmarks when you click on your hero skills in the hero menu @cerulean niche

white raven
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@near mist nem infront or back?

near mist
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@cerulean niche shemira is indeed a solo carry, but you need to make her 161+ for her to truly carry
Saveas is more realiable than shem, at least at lvl 120-160

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@tame apex gratzz

lament pawn
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Keep in mind that this isn't a "hard" rule. Just something to keep in mind when looking for upgrades etc ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

near mist
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@turbid kraken show me kouhai

turbid kraken
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should i level seirus?
@still oar
i reset shemira and leveled saveas elethathink

near mist
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@white raven depending on
I'd like to make silv target nem and put him inf front of saveas
Could you do that by adjustin the armor?

turbid kraken
near mist
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@turbid kraken show me the full hero pool as well

turbid kraken
still oar
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@turbid kraken no I just need make ur base level 101 and see if it'll work

turbid kraken
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huh?

near mist
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Try lucius, seirus, nemora, saveas, Ira
And yeah, make everyone 101+ @turbid kraken

still oar
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Your lowest 5th is 100. Can you make it 101?

near mist
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You should up serius to 101

cerulean niche
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So the order i should be focusing on bringing up to milestones should be saveas>shemira>nemora>the 2 tanks?

white raven
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@near mist tried, but nem died in just a Sec lolol

turbid kraken
near mist
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@cerulean niche yeah, saveas will worth the investment

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@white raven aww ๐Ÿ˜‚

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You get tasi?

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Or lyca?

cerulean niche
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I was focusing on shemira cuz she was epic and my saveas was a lowly rare xd

white raven
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@near mist i do, but theyโ€™re only E Lolol

near mist
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Yeah dude, ascend save

still oar
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@turbid kraken yes now try what goburisan recomended

turbid kraken
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like this?
and team formation?

still oar
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Try lucius, seirus, nemora, saveas, Ira
And yeah, make everyone 101+ @Maranoci Uninorc
Goburisan said

near mist
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Aha then use, arden, tasi, saveas, khasos, Brutus
Or
Lyca, arden/tasi, saveas, khasos, Brutus
Works for me @white raven

turbid kraken
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but golus will shred seirus instant?

near mist
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Pair luci with golus

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*against

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Seirus against bat

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And saveas middle bacl

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*back

still oar
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Seri luci
sav IRA nem

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Or what goburisan above said @turbid kraken

white raven
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@near mist are my hero underleveled? Still failed haha

near mist
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Hmmm prob with enough try and rng you will win, i prove that myself, exact same composition and tier hero (elite tasi and lyca) โœŒ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ @white raven

white raven
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Shemโ€™s ulti literally wiped my team

near mist
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If you get tired of trying, afk and lvl up

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That's why, put arden kr tasi

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Give gasi trumpet

white raven
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@near mist ooh so whatโ€™s ur current lineup like now?

near mist
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Main acc or alt?

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I'll give u both

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Wait

median star
pale kettle
white raven
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Ahh... what faction & tavern pulls did u go for?

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@near mist don have enough mythic heroes to break 160 cap??

gentle stratus
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@near mist Dm me if ya need any help lol. This channel is so much spam xD

near mist
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@gentle stratus oki dokie

turbid kraken
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@near mist thanks dude idabella

near mist
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@white raven when i was a newb, i switch around for faction
Recently i've been going mauler while previously GB, shemira and brutus

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@turbid kraken gratzzz

pale kettle
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@pale kettle lucius for the sword guy up top left

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Brutus?

near mist
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@pale kettle nemora instead of grezhul, put the heroes like this
Shemira brutus
Nemora lyca
Arden

pale kettle
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I would do brutus lucius fawkes nemora Belinda @pale kettle

warm smelt
pale kettle
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Hogan ur best bet for now

warm smelt
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cheers

humble sky
versed forge
quaint light
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@humble sky f2p? You lucky bastid.

humble sky
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Yes I just started a few days ago

quaint light
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@humble sky I would go Brutus/kaz/nemora/tasi/sav. You will hard stuck at chapter 6, but once you've gotten sav and brutus to 101 it should be fine.

humble sky
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Yeah Iโ€™m stuck at 6-24. So I need to invest everything on Brutus and Saveas? Thanks!

quaint light
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Don't worry too much about it, once you reached your 7-9th day, you should have enough exp to power through chapter 6. And yeah, focus on L saveas first.

humble sky
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Alright! Thanks!

median star
quick idol
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Any help?^

whole palm
boreal ermine
whole palm
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Use sevas? @boreal ermine insted of nemora

dim flume
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Hello, Im pretty new to the game so im pretty clueless, im stuck on 5-20. anyone help optimize my team with the pool of chars i have?

gilded fractal
harsh sail
shut parrot
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Heyo, I'm completely stuck on 9-20. Any tips? My team can't survive long enough to kill Vedan or Niru

fallen olive
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@shut parrot screenshot your lineup

shut parrot
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I've tried almost every combo and if i just need to wit to get belinda to lvl 130 or what :/

dark basin
pale rover
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@median star Ogi Kaz Arden Shemira Saveas.

@quick idol Khasos Vedan Silvina Shemira Saveas.

@whole palm Soren is graveborn so using a mix of wilders and maulers against him would be good.

@boreal ermine Who are your other heroes? Send a photo of your hero list and the stage together.

@dim flume Hogan Golus Saveas Belinda Arden (no team bonus), or Golus Ogi Arden Ira Saveas (team bonus), or Estrilda Hogan Vedan Shemira Silvina (for pure damage).

@gilded fractal Seirus Skregg Kaz Saveas Arden. Does the frontline survive?

@zenith rover Skregg Lucius Saveas Nemora Ira.

@harsh sail Hogan Ogi Arden Belinda Thane/Athalia.

@solid lintel You can replace Estrilda with Raine for Belinda. If you want a team bonus replace Shemira with Estrilda in. 3-2 team.

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@shut parrot Ogi Brutus Arden Saveas Lyca/Nemora for 9-20.

wild kraken
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Hi i nerd help recovery muito account

pale rover
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@dark basin Thoran Seirus Athalia/Silvina Shemira Kaz/Ferael for 9-20.

wild kraken
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Thanks

dark basin
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Thanks! Iโ€™ll try that! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ @pale rover

pale rover
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Good luck everyone!

harsh sail
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Ty

whole palm
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๐Ÿ˜ @pale rover

zenith rover
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Thanks @pale rover โค

pale rover
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You're all very welcome thank you for being patient.โ˜บ๏ธ

shut parrot
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@pale rover Thanks, but my team still insta dies |D

rich barn
pale rover
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@shut parrot How's their gear?

rich barn
dark basin
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I die too quickly, Rip. Why not use Lucius? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ @pale rover

pale rover
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@rich barn You're doing great with your lineup, just replace Nemora and Tasi first since you have too much crowd control. Add Saveas and Belinda.

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@dark basin Graveborn > Lightbearers. Niru and Vedan will eat him alive.

rich barn
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@pale rover Many thanks, will try that now ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

dark basin
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Oh, I see ๐Ÿ˜ฎ I still get BLASTED tho, thanks for the help anyways :)) guess I just have to lvl up heroes/get more heroes ๐Ÿ˜… @pale rover

shut parrot
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@pale rover al mostly elite to elite plus

pale rover
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@dark basin I think your problem is also gear. Same as @shut parrot because both of your levels aren't very far from the opponents'.

fallen olive
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@shut parrot the trick is to have lots of burst to kill niru before he cab heal from others dying. So figure out something to kill him asap while others survive. Too bad you cant push savesd to 140, im at 10-4 with rhis lineup

pale rover
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^

dark basin
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Oh, I canโ€™t upgrade it much tho. All my usable heroes wears Elite/Elite+/Legendary gear

pale rover
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That's pretty much the trick. Niru is the one killing everyone because if any of your team dies he gets stronger.

thick gulch
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Is Shemira worth running elite?

pale rover
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You need to focus your stronger teams on his side and burst him down asap.

shut parrot
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I could but upgrade sav to legendary but I would need to sacrifice an ascneded tier hero to do it

pale rover
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Wilders, Maulers and Graveborn all work equally decently, just don't use Lightbearers (especially frontliners) if you can help it.

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Don't sacrifice, just wait for fodder.

fallen olive
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@shut parrot yeah not worth it

thick gulch
fallen olive
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@thick gulch saveas to 140

unique vapor
shut parrot
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Or I can sac two sav's for either a niru legend or skreg legend @fallen olive

pale kettle
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Any tips? Canโ€™t seem to beat this floor 120

fallen olive
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@shut parrot nah definitely keep saves till youre past lvl 161

dim chasm
fallen olive
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@dim chasm lvl saveas to 100

dim chasm
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is he really that good early on?

thick gulch
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Heโ€™s insane

fallen olive
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Yup, his damage scales with his hp so wheb hes overleveled he 1 or 2 shots enemies

harsh sail
low ferry
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stuck at 9-20 what can i use?

fallen olive
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@harsh sail try saveas hogan front athalia khasos belinda back. Hopefully that will kill enemy niru before he starts healing and powering ip

harsh sail
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Not even close @fallen olive

proud thunder
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I bought Nem and did 3 x10s but got nothing useful and can't beat this stage any help on what hero to reset and invest in instead?

harsh sail
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Think I'm just out gunned

timid sand
pale kettle
gilded fractal
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@pale rover not very well :( thank u for the help, i genuinely think the lineup you suggested may have worked well were the frontline higher than elite x)

pale kettle
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Help with this level pls^^

native thunder
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Hey, how can I win this level?

still oar
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@native thunder lyca bru
Sav nem Arden
You can try place sav in the middle and nemora behind bru

pale kettle
native thunder
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It dont work, Nemora dont have time to ult before everyone is dead ;)

cerulean shore
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@native thunder can i see your other heroes?

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@pale kettle what do you mean by that?

native thunder
pale kettle
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Sacrifice e+ Vedan and e+ Silvina to make L Ferael y/n?

supple ice
cerulean shore
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@proud thunder try to make team bonus, that's on the top left corner when choosing your team, but rather than resetting too many times, i think you just focus leveling on the time being,
wilder weak against mauler, your team might be hard handling this stage for the moment

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@native thunder well i think you need some leveling on damage dealer, but mauler weak against lightbearer so maybe something like
estrillda lucius fawker belinda nemora

vivid stag
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Hey guys can you help me with a line-up i'm stuck at 6-36

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Or any tips are welcomed i'm kinda new too

supple ice
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Belinda > Mirael, Lucius (if u have him) is better than Hogan

cerulean shore
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@pale kettle depends on the team, but i'd go with no except you have another ferael elite+

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@vivid stag i think it's pretty good, just switch saveas and fawkes, never put saveas to hit brutus,

supple ice
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Could u have a look at my setup please @cerulean shore u seem quite knowledgable

vivid stag
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Thanks

dark tundra
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Try a full set of LB

jaunty ore
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Where are the hero tier lists

dark tundra
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Command chat I think

supple ice
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Nice Profile pic @dark tundra , pretty sick char

pale kettle
dark tundra
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Hahaha thank u vedan360 vedan360

supple ice
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Doesnt beat son hak though belinda

dark tundra
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Ehhh too mainstream but thats off topic

cerulean shore
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@supple ice i dont think shemira will survive with that wilder damage dealer
you might try switching belinda with athalia if you have

pale kettle
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Wow I just saw I could up my Belinda to L+ by posting my box here

brave gyro
maiden cargo
brave gyro
cerulean shore
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@pale kettle i'd go with brutus thoran saveas ferael and shemira

brave gyro
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Any help how can i beat 8-40

cerulean shore
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@maiden cargo wrizz is mauler, weak against lightbearer, but you need something like lucius to make the team survive long enough

pale kettle
dark tundra
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Whale thoran_ping

cerulean shore
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@brave gyro switch belinda and athalia, too bad you dont have fawkes though

jaunty ore
signal canopy
cerulean shore
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@pale kettle i think it needs level, it would be nice if you have an overleveled shemira though
or try to build greveborn team

pale kettle
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@dark tundra besides that, can you give me advice on 13-24?

dark tundra
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@pale kettle try to use cc

pale kettle
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@cerulean shore really it's my level? Alight I'll try leveling up more. My friend beat it and he is on same levels as me, but...he use Wilder team with 3 myth+

cerulean shore
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@jaunty ore i went with shemira, my 200 level shemira got me to chapter 18 lol the rest is 2 161 and 160

brave gyro
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@cerulean shore thx dude i won ๐Ÿ˜ƒ like 40 tries before and on this worked second time

dark tundra
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Mikale have u tried over level 1 hero?

jaunty ore
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Hmmm... I was considering going for 5xmythic 161+ but even if I did grezhul that would require me to also get nemora and numisu to red and they're kind of fodder I think

pale kettle
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Also I can get my shemira to leg+, not sure if that's enough but I'll try

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@dark tundra im no sure what means this question?

cerulean shore
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@pale kettle well i actually beat that with 170 shemira on the whole stage 12 and 13 :v
the rest is level 141 and team always change depends on enemy

pale kettle
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Well if I make shemira 170 everything else would have to be 121 probably

mental wagon
pale kettle
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Probably not even... I can do 160

dark tundra
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Guess u need to level up more or enhance your mythic gear

cerulean shore
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@pale kettle arden and nemora might be good but you'll lack of damage

pale kettle
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No tasi or fawkes? If Belinda or mirael cast ult my team dies sadly

mental wagon
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I was swapping tasi and nem. Think it may be a level thing at the moment.

fallen olive
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@signal canopy try to figure out something to make niru die first, after that you should be fine as you outlevel the fight

dull wadi
fallen olive
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@dull wadi reset others than saveas, get them to 81, then saveas to 120 and then level evenly towards 100

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2 wilder 3 lightbringer

pale kettle
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Any idea how to beat this lvl (10-36)?

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@cerulean shore check your DMs

drowsy raptor
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This isn't specific but rather general campaign advice i ask

gilded fractal
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within a few days i can make nemora elite+ or shemira leg+ since my lab shop will refresh so if thats any help to plan a formation pls toss all ideas at me

drowsy raptor
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enemy ogi's are obnoxious

lament rapids
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so stack your dps on him

gilded fractal
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yep i tried that. always put my sav up top.

lament rapids
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before he can yeet your frontline

drowsy raptor
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also yeah idk how you can do much better than bel + lucian + arden + shemira + saveas

gilded fractal
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i just do not have a really good formation i can put around sav to keep enemies pushed back with all my LB and no well ascended good wilders or maulers besides arden or sav. yknow?

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yeah thanks thats exactly how i saw things :[] it is a constant struggle

fallen olive
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@gilded fractal get saveas to 140 and put him on slot 2

drowsy raptor
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tbh

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that comp just looks like "be overleveled or lose because vaden is bs when overleveled and we have cc and assassins"

gilded fractal
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OH though ive been too lazy to do secrets of the forest bc of finals lmao maybe i can do that. but i heard you need a wilder team so for me thats a bit..... KazThonk

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@fallen olive thats actually exactly what im working on HAHA i knew you were gonna say that given your un

lament rapids
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Well it depends: does your Lucius get his ult off before he dies? In my team I had to switch Nemora and Lucius so that he survived longer

gilded fractal
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@lament rapids yep he does. still no go.

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i believe i have far too many lb as my moost viable options hahaha cries

torn elk
somber hemlock
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u dont have an carry?

outer terrace
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Who do I Level to 140 next? I havenโ€™t been using Shemira much so maybe Belinda or Lucius?

eternal vortex
somber hemlock
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@eternal vortex get a faction bonus with belinda hogan angelo saveas golus

eternal vortex
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that is my team but u can see I got an elite Belinda and an Elite Angelo, should I replace Mirael with Belinda

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?

somber hemlock
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do angelo belinda saveas in back golus hogan tank

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and reset the rest to lvl them mirael lvls to angelo

woven chasm
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Help plz

pale kettle
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Whatโ€™s the best lineup I can do to beat 8-40 that legendary elite silv wrecks me ๐Ÿ˜‚

craggy bough
quaint light
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@craggy bough Reset your elites you're using and place them in reso crytal. Then level up your elite+ to 101, that way all your elites in reso can overlevel their level cap.

craggy bough
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But my elite +is 116

queen tree
fallen olive
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@queen tree your saveas isnt 140

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Reset others to 101 and level them up after saveas, niru needs to die first, put him on slot 1 so he kills niru quick

queen tree
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ok ill give tht i try, ty <3

fallen olive
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Np, his damage scales with both his max hp and damage and the attack speed is insane so he's overpowered when hes much higher level

meager shoal
light elm
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Rerolling isn't very helpful anyway, but this is a pretty decent account

meager shoal
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@light elm thanks. Which faction do you think I should focus on going forward?

hollow sapphire
polar heath
bronze lintel
proper thistle
placid dirge
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@bronze lintel make sure ur playing with the faction pluses you could run estrilda instead of brutus for the 4 and 1 bonus 15% hp 20% attack

bronze lintel
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@placid dirge Iโ€™ll give it a shot

placid dirge
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@bronze lintel for that level I'd run seirus over brutus or estrilda just for the graveborn killing

sharp vortex
placid dirge
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Seirus is amazing for graveborn control

sharp vortex
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There's so much CC going on and I don't know where to start

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Anyone?

delicate trout
quartz jewel
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Anyway I can improve upon my line up? Top 5 are the ones Iโ€™m currently using

cerulean prairie
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I have shemira, nemora, saveas, the mouse and beast dude, and belinda
Is that a good team?

pale kettle
fresh vortex
pale kettle
gilded fractal
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@pale kettle have you tried brutus(or lucius)/tasi frontline saveas/arden/nemora backline?

pale kettle
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@gilded fractal Ive used Brutus/Tasi Front.. Saveas, Nemora and Arden at the back but it kills me everytime

wheat geyser
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Hey guys, currently I'm happy with this lineup. I'm a bit stuck on 6-32 but nothing that a few level ups wont help.
My question is, what heroes should I look out to replace and which ones should I ascend sooner?

fallen olive
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@wheat geyser saveas saveas

covert kernel
fossil moth
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Any idea how to beat this? My frontline does within 13 seconds while the back line doesnโ€™t even get the spells off ...

dusky sage
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Just get celestial 5โ˜† Ezizh

drowsy raptor
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bruh just win the game lmfao

gilded fractal
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ggez

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@fossil moth you definitely have to level more. your frontline is pretty fragile as is, so you need to maximize your tankiness as much as you can using levels. can you position estrilda somewhere where she can run into belinda? im not too sure how her charging attack works. try belinda instead of shemira.

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also, reset shemira and manually level hogan. bc shemira is only elite, your heroes on the crystal can only be a maximum lvl of 100. if you put your exp into hogan, youll have a lineup of all elite+s, allowing you to level your crystal heroes up to lvl 120. @fossil moth

fossil moth
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@gilded fractal thanks for the advice. i will try that

gilded fractal
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@fossil moth good luck!

pale kettle
wind helm
tranquil hill
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Which part is killin ya? Iโ€™d trade out Numisu for saveas if you have it, or maybe athalia so she can bring nemora backwards to your team

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And I heard khasos is a backliner because he gets more damage, placed in the middle so he can hit both, but I donโ€™t see another tank you could put

cobalt inlet
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I'm stuck on that same level. Do I have a better lineup to counter it

dark mantle
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Just based on faction advantage, your team is weak against them. The boss is Graveborn and your team is predominantly Light.

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I would suggest maybe trying different frontline, with Mauler or Wilder to eat some of the damage.

cobalt inlet
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I'm not gonna lie I forgot all about factional advantage. I'll try it, thanks

wind helm
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@tranquil hill Different parts depending on the mix in lineup. Got Seirus as a kinda tank, but he falls through and gets killed quickly...will try more switch arounds and pray to be lucky.

dark mantle
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A lot of the time what I do is just find the formation that gets me the ~closest~ to winning, and I just keep doing that over and over until my team lands a clutch crit and I win by luck. I also run Lucius and a lot of the time his bubble is the key to whether it's winnable or not. @cobalt inlet

cobalt inlet
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Yea I'll run it over and over. I got closer using a couple of wilders

edgy helm
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Hello everyone! Im now at 100/100 summons done and im wondering who i should pick with those units around. I was thinking Brutus or Tasi since in 2 days ill get shemira out of the laby. Thanks for your help!

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I will probably replace Grezhul by Shemira btw

clear solar
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I just got Brutus so trying to see who he works best with

dark mantle
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Saveas works well with Brutus if you place him behind him! @clear solar

pine oriole
clear solar
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Lucious, Belinda, Brutus, Saveas....annnnnd Healing Lamb Chick? or someone else for the bonus?

edgy helm
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Any1 can help me with my question from earlier as well please? thanks

burnt urchin
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@edgy helm it depends on the situation

dark mantle
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@edgy helm I wasn't sure what you were asking. Are you just wondering what team to use out of the heroes that you have currently? What level are you on?

edgy helm
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i cant realy focus on too many units fo i want a decent team to focus on first if possible ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

plain badger
edgy helm
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im on 5-24 atm and still going. Im mostly wondering who i should summon on my Hero pick up from 100 summons later. im aiming for shemira in 2 days so there that to take in consideration. What team formation i could make with what i curently have, shemira counted in, and who i should summon on hero pick up considering all that. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dark mantle
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@plain badger Wilder is weak against their team. Try and go more Light heavy if possible. Lucius and Belinda would be strong here. Try Lucius and Hogan frontline. Belinda, Mirael, and maybe keep Vedan in the back. See what happens

plain badger
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Okay thanks

dark mantle
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@edgy helm Oh, you're wondering what faction to spend your Tavern Token on?

edgy helm
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yeah

dark mantle
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@pine oriole Estrilda

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@clear solar try Mirael for the faction bonus

clear solar
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@dark mantle ok ty!

edgy helm
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so i guess i should use the token on Wilders faction to maybe get Lyca or Tasi to that end?

dark mantle
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@edgy helm Yeah I'd say go Wilder

woeful portal
dark mantle
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@woeful portal Depends on what level you are on currently! Are you stuck or just wanting to try out a new team?

edgy helm
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got tasi hell yeah

woeful portal
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im on stage 6-36

dark mantle
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@edgy helm Awesome!
@woeful portal What does that stage look like? Or what faction are the enemies?

edgy helm
woeful portal
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All the enemies are Maulers. I have been stuck for a few days now...

dark mantle
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@woeful portal Have you tried Estrilda, Hogan, Belinda, Ira(or Kaz), Arden? I find that faction bonus/advantage plays a large role.

woeful portal
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Should i proceed with my current formation, or do as you just told me?

dark mantle
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I would try going Light heavy since they are strong against Mauler.

woeful portal
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Light heavy? Hmm. Which formation should I choose out of the heroes i have? and could you please inform which ones should be in the front and back

nocturne peak
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Lightbearers * ^

dark mantle
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Estrilda top front, Hogan bottom front. Belinda top back, then Arden, then either Ira or Kaz. @woeful portal I would try this and then maybe try switching the placement of the frontline/

simple viper
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Getting stuck now in 6-12 :/
Which ones should I be rolling with?

woeful portal
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I see. Should i do that even tho my Arden and Estrilda are only Epic, while my current formation is Epic+ ?

dark mantle
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@simple viper Lucius, Brutus, Belinda, Mirael, Raine.
@woeful portal I would try it out, the game is pretty forgiving about doing trial-and-error, though resetting people with gems kind of sucks sometimes. If you're stuck the best thing to do is try everything possible until it works.

nocturne peak
woeful portal
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Alright! I will try it out. Thanks @dark mantle ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dark mantle
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@nocturne peak Try going half Light half Wilder to counter their team. I can't see everyone that you have but if you have a Wilder tank for the front and a mix of Light and Wilder backline that would be good. Lyca is very strong and so is Arden. I would keep Belinda where she is, and probably Lucius for the bubble.

nocturne peak
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Got stuck lol meant send this as well.

dark mantle
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@nocturne peak Ascend Ogi and use him! Ogi and Lucius. Lyca Tasi Belinda in back... Ulmus is also pretty strong if you want to try him instead of Ogi....

queen sluice
woeful portal
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Damn, it must be a joke. It worked haha - 1-2 days of struggling just got fixed with your help. Thanks mate

dark mantle
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@woeful portal Awesome! No problem! x

woeful portal
dark mantle
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Try switching the frontline placement, and if that gets you closer try putting Belinda in the middle and Arden on the top. But yeah, unfortunately the game is a lot of farming and waiting to be able to level up. Against Brutus you need a damage heavy team that can also outlive his spin. It's helpful if you have Lucius available for the bubble but I don't think you have him. @woeful portal

woeful portal
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Arh i see. It helped switching between Belinda and Arden - but 2-3 of the enemy team survives every time. Soo yeah, mabye you're right, I just have to wait.

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But should i focus on leveling my Estrilda and Arden from the bottom? Or is it alright placing them in the Resonating crystal

dark mantle
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@woeful portal Might be worth it to reset your level 100s and make Estrilda and Belinda your strongest

woeful portal
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So reset Saveas and Khasos? They're Epic+ (do you recommend me resetting Ira+ too?)

dark mantle
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Yeah, I would make Estrilda, Belinda, and either Hogan or Arden your strongest. Then slowly get the rest of your team up to 101 to get all your crystal people there as well. It's worth it to make heroes in your party over leveled when possible. The difference between epic and epic+ isn't as noticeable as level advantage.

woeful portal
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I see. Alright I will do that asap! Thanks man! ๐Ÿ˜„ 1 more thing, should i stop following ( https://idleheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Faction_divided_tier_list ) recommendations? Because I did it from the beginning, and its pretty unclear about team formation and which heroes to go with...

IdleHeroes Wiki

If you are looking for a ranking of all the heroes, this page should hopefully help you out. Bear in mind that this is only a general idea. A tier list is never something that everyone agrees on.

formal lodge
dark mantle
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Once everyone in your crystal is 101 you will be able to switch between them for fights easily. Try and have at least 2 or 3 of each faction in your crystal. @woeful portal

woeful portal
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Alright thanks!

dark mantle
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@formal lodge Try switching the formation of the frontline, and switch out Raine for Saveas and have him behind Brutus. See if that helps.

formal lodge
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@dark mantle ok, ill try, been trying for a few days, maybe this time will work :)

dark mantle
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@formal lodge Brutus Lucius front, then Saveas Belinda and Shemira(or Raine) in the back.

formal lodge
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Thx

dark mantle
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Find a formation that gets you the closest to winning, then just keep trying it. In this fight Lucius bubble is very important.

split sigil
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Hard stuck at 9-20. Any suggestions or am i stuck until i get someone past 120?

nocturne peak
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Make sure Call is on Lucious ๐Ÿ‘ Helps with shield. ( Gotta wait a day Eunichar , for me to try your formation, no slots atm. )

unkempt spire
split sigil
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oh i had it on brutus

unkempt spire
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I need some help with this one

split sigil
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oh wait. i dont even have call, only grace

dark mantle
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I beat 9-20 using Lucius Estrilda Athalia Mirael Belinda

unkempt spire
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Im on 5-36 and pretty stuck

dark mantle
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what heroes do you have

split sigil
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i dont have athalia ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

unkempt spire
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Thats my best

dark mantle
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@unkempt spire Wilder is weak against Mauler and you are underleveled so it's going to be hard running this comp

nocturne peak
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Work on getting your Relics . It helps quite a lot . If you're at the stage to complete them.

unkempt spire
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I didnt even know some are weak to others

dark mantle
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@split sigil Try Lucius Brutus, Belinda Raine Saveas

scenic inlet
split sigil
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when do you get the 2nd relic? i only have 1, doesnt feel like i can clear the 3rd area yet

split sigil
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oh yeah i can see the locations in game - derp

timid sand
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Any help on line up and tips on who to level 101 first

scenic inlet
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Sav

split sigil
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so i have a way to go seems like

dark mantle
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@split sigil Did you see my lineup suggestion? Just keep trying until you find a formation that gets close and hope for a clutch Lucius bubble

split sigil
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ooh i will try that, thanks!

timid sand
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Any suggestions for me? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

dark mantle
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@timid sand Are you stuck on your level or just looking to make a new team? I'd get Saveas or Shemira to 101 first

timid sand
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I have enought Hero exp to get 2 into 101

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Stuck on another level now. but still looking for line up recommendations since im still pretty new at the game. And i don't really know what i should go for.

split sigil
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@dark mantle not seeing any arrangement keeping lucius long enough to pop his shield yet but does seem promising if i can get him a bit more buffer

dark mantle
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Factional advantages are very important. Light is strong against Mauler, Mauler against Wilder, Wilder against Grave, Grave against Light. Based on the enemy team you will want your team to be Graveborn heavy and you can use Mauler too. I'd try Undead King and either Skreg or Ezizh in the front. Then use Shemira, Silvina, and Saveas in the back. See what happens! @timid sand

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@split sigil Lucius is a very important hero and his ult is super crucial try and over level him and give him the best gear.

pale kettle
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You are sexy

timid sand
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@dark mantle So this game is more about building a team thats strong agianst the specific faction instead of getting 1 base lineup you can use for everything?

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And one off question, is the dark hero good?

scenic inlet
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Situational at best

split sigil
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@dark mantle yeah - i'm a lucius fan but he's stuck until i can ascend him at least one more time

dark mantle
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@timid sand Yes! But you can eventually have everyone be leveled up because of the resonating crystal. So you'll be able to switch your team for different situations.... And yes he's pretty good in general but I'd suggest using him in this situation.

sour plinth
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Should I level them up evenly or get my Brutus to 121

timid sand
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I think getting the 121 boosts are best. Personally

heavy lark
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Right now I use Ezizh in my front line, should I swap him for my elite+ silvinia so I can level up all my heroes from resonating crystal past 101?

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Stage 7-35 if that helps

split sigil
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unrelated question: am i missing an f2p path to ascending people? i still have noone above elite+

vale widget
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@heavy lark Yes. And if you switch him for Silvina, you can still use him in your front line if you just put him in the crystal

timid sand
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@split sigil unlucky. You just need 3 ___+ of the same faction and then you can take them to the next tier

split sigil
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ok - havent had many throwaway elites to feed to brutus or lucius or saveas yet

dark mantle
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Yeah sometimes you just have to sacrifice heroes you know youโ€™ll pull again, in order to ascend the more rare pulls.

split sigil
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i have that 2nd elite+ vedan i guess, but unless i dont want golus at all that's the only fodder

formal lodge
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@dark mantle thx a lot, didnt think that combo would be that good

heavy lark
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@vale widget thank you. Now just to get the dust to raise her past 101. ๐Ÿ˜…

dark mantle
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@formal lodge Glad I could help!

vale widget
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@heavy lark Haha no problem. Best of luck! Remember to always buy the dust for gold in the store every day.

timid sand
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@dark mantle I just beat the level i've been stuck on all day ๐Ÿ˜„

dark mantle
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Yay!!!

formal lodge
dark mantle
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It makes me feel really good when I suggest something and it works for people! (Meanwhile I'm stuck at 10-22 which isn't even a boss!) I'm currently dust-blocked and can't level my crystal guys to 121.

formal lodge
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@dark mantle hope you pass it soon

jaunty notch
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HELP

heavy lark
timid sand
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@dark mantle i had 1226 dust and just spent 1200 so think im also gonna be dust blocked now

jaunty notch
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@near mist @rugged marten Help a fellow brother

near mist
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@jaunty notch that's actually a good formation

jaunty notch
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Warek and Khasos deal literally 0 damage lmao

rugged marten
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I'll let gorubin deal with this ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

near mist
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@jaunty notch try to make everyone 121 first, as your enemy has this lvl milestone advantage

rugged marten
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Khasos pairs well with Saveas because he gives Saveas life leech, keeping his damage higher for longer

jaunty notch
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Yeah, everyone is maxed now so I can't lvl up neiter Thane or Estrilda. I will lvl up Shemira now to 140 so she can deal more damage and survive longer. I will also try Saveas Khasos combo once I have a space to put Saveas on the crystal thingy.

split sigil
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@formal lodge ok i have the same formation but you have 2 ascended people, so i'm on the right path

formal lodge
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@split sigil update, now I have Lucius gold+ ๐Ÿ˜‚

split sigil
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noice

formal lodge
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@split sigil good luck

split sigil
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i cant ascend anyone without giving up someone i can't afford to lose (yet) - just gotta get some RNG breaking my way on pulls. e.g. 2nd lucius pull or another mauler to ascend brutus

formal lodge
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I want to ascend brutul too, I have him only elite... Or Shemira

sharp vortex
heavy lark
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@sharp vortex you need to get those level 80s up in your resonating crystal.

timid sand
vivid pelican
dark mantle
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I would, yes. You'll pull them again.

vivid pelican
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What would be a good lineup after sacrificing those two? I currently use them in battles.

dark mantle
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Lineup depends on what enemies you are facing in the battle, if you care about factional advantage. Have at least 2 or 3 of every faction in your crystal if/when possible so you can switch between them when necessary. What level are you currently on?

timid sand
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Btw, How much money does normal people spend on this game?

vivid pelican
unique vapor
timid sand
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Like i bought the level 20 offer and chapter reward

dark mantle
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Lucius, Estrilda, Belinda combo is very strong. Maybe try that along with Shemira and Tasi, see what happens. @vivid pelican

heavy lark
vivid pelican
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Awesome, will give that a go. Thanks for your help @dark mantle!

dark mantle
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@unique vapor Lucius Estrilda Belinda! + Tasi and Arden maybe.
@timid sand I've spent $4.99 lol
@heavy lark Escend Belinda she is very strong and you will pull more Hogan, Belinda is more rare.

unique vapor
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yea uh my lucius gets 1 shot by sav

heavy lark
dark mantle
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@heavy lark Estrilda, I think.
Also rip you sacked your Raine+ you should have saved her and used both of your Hogans to ascend Belinda. That's okay though.

heavy lark
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Iโ€™m on chapter 8 which is majority graveborn, is that still a viable option?

split sigil
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i've only spent 0.99 so far

heavy lark
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๐Ÿ˜… oops

dark mantle
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Level her because she is strong, but keep 2 or 3 of each faction on your resonating crystal so you can switch between them. Get everyone to 101. @heavy lark

novel tusk
dark mantle
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Grave

fresh vortex
novel tusk
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Okay time to pray for good rng

heavy lark
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Thank you @dark mantle i appreciate the help

dark mantle
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@fresh vortex Is it possible to reset some people and get everyone on your team to 121 or are you dust-blocked?
@heavy lark no problem!

fresh vortex
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Dust blocked atm

novel tusk
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Eunichar should I also spend my faction scrolls on graveborn? Or wilder since I use 3 of them in my team

dark mantle
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@fresh vortex Try switching Saveas and Belinda placement... If that gets you closer switch the frontline placement. If it's not helping you might just be underleveled currently and need to wait for dust. Could also try subbing in Athalia for either Shemira or Belinda. She is very strong.
@novel tusk Wilder!

fresh vortex
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That's why the others are leveled past 121..waitinf on dust

novel tusk
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Alright thanks a lot for the help

mild bane
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@heavy lark you should upgrade silvina she is in my load-out and she completely DESTROYS heros

glacial flower
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Hey could use some advice with my line up. Iโ€™m new to the game! Thank you in advance!

dark mantle
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Ogi, Hogan, Belinda, Lyca, Raine(or Thane) would be pretty strong out of the heroes that you have. But a lot of the game is situational depending on who you are facing. Factional advantage plays a big role. @glacial flower

glacial flower
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@dark mantle thank you for the advice! Iโ€™ll try that combo out ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I really want to unlock Tasi! Hoping for her.

dark mantle
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@glacial flower Tasi is very good! Good luck x

glacial flower
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Thank you! @dark mantle

mossy nova
#

Hey peeps! Stuck at 10-32 and curious of yall see anything that i can do lineup wise or leveling wise to hopefully get to chapter 11. This is just a random formation trying to keep saveas and shemira alive as long as possible to hopefully kill everything

terse bison
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Maybe try Ogi in front and Nem in back instead of Saveas?

mossy nova
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@terse bison and put all the xp into shemira or divide it fairly evenly?

terse bison
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All of it into Shemira

mossy nova
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Sounds good, ill try it out. Thank you!

boreal bane
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Is it worth it it use silvina to get grezhul to legendary?

timid stratus
quick nest
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You need a lineup of graveborn as it does more damage to lightbears

split grail
snow coyote
tardy quartz
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Survive

mossy nova
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@terse bison got it 2nd try. I appreciate it

terse bison
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Nice! Glad to hear that hahah

versed forge
distant pond
versed forge
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which heroes counter Silvina?

pale kettle
vast brook
cloud fern
tawdry maple
dark mantle
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Lucius, Ulmus, Fawkes, Tasi, Belinda. You'll want to go with more Lights against this team for the factional advantage. @tawdry maple

pale rover
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@timid stratus Make a lineup with a mix of Graveborn and Wilder for that stage. Ezizh Hogan Lucius for front (pick 2), Saveas Arden Vedan/Shemira.

@split grail Use mostly Wilders, with a bit of Mauler. Skregg Khasos front, who else do you have?

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@snow coyote Use Graveborn as much as you can to make sure there are no faction bonuses, backline can be Wilder. Thoran Golus Saveas Vedan/Shemira Arden.

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@versed forge That team is fine, have you checked your gear? Alternatively, you can also try Grezhul Skregg Saveas Shemira Arden.

random sequoia
versed forge
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they die too fast. so far my best team for this fight is ogi lucius saveas arden nemora, but i dont have enough DPS. i tried 2 other teams and they were far worse (Skregg Lucius Saveas Belinda Fawkes and Ogi Skregg Arden Khasos Saveas

pale rover
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@pale kettle Silvina? Skregg Hogan/Estrilda front, Arden Mirael Saveas.

dark mantle
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@random sequoia Lucius Estrilda Belinda is very strong against that team.

pale rover
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@versed forge Lack of dps with those good heroes mean you are undergeared or lack in ascensions for the campaign stage.

versed forge
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only with that lineup... the 2 other lineups get wiped within 10 seconds ;x

pale rover
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@versed forge Can you show me the rest of your heroes?

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I could only see a small part.

versed forge
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the one you suggested also lasted about 20sec ;/

pale rover
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@vast brook You can buy Shemira or Nemora. But personally, I always buy Shemira first.

cedar ember
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Which Faction should I pull from for my Elite Hero, I could get Brutus to Legendary if I get another E+ Mauler, but if I do Lightbringer, I could get another Lucius and bring him to Legendary, or I could pull from Graveborn/Wilders for something

vast brook
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thx @pale rover

pale rover
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@versed forge

Shemira
Ogi
Arden
Lucius
Saveas

Ideally Silvina will run to Arden, then Saveas will kill her next after his initial target. If your original team with Nemora works, just move them around until you win. Sometimes it's just RNG. If you can kill 3 of them you can usually complete that stage.

dark mantle
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@cedar ember I'd go with Light. Lucius in my opinion is more valuable in more situations than Brutus so leveling him first would benefit you greater.

pale rover
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@cloud fern You can also develop your Graveborn units, if you like, but your current team is good depending on the stage you're in. Graveborn with Wilder is good for high attack with crowd control. Thoran/Brutus Lucius Shemira Arden Saveas is a good balanced team, although there won't be a team bonus.

zinc token
versed forge
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that necro healer dude is worse than silvina tbh, hes the reason i cant kill any of them on 8-32 ๐Ÿ˜

cedar ember
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Let's hope I get Lucius so yeet

pale rover
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@tawdry maple You lack in damage for that particular composition. Thoran Kaz Golus (pick two) front, Saveas Vedan Arden/Tasi back.

cedar ember
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Got another Raine

pale rover
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@versed forge You have to focus all of your attacks on Niru's side. When your teammates die, he'll get stronger with every death and heal.

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Which is why I was avoiding putting Lucius in, I was hoping to use a tank with more damaging capabilities. Also, Graveborn is strong against Lightbearers.

versed forge
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lucius is kinda weak, but that 500% shield is just enough to let me survive with arden ccing and nemora healing... take lucius out and they all die right after 1st skill usage

pale kettle
pale rover
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@zinc token Replace Nemora with Arden. How's their gear?

pale kettle
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im incredibly nooby to this game lol

pale rover
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@pale kettle Estrilda (top) Hogan (bottom) in front, Saveas Belinda Raine at the back.

versed forge
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i think ogi lucius saveas arden nemora is how ill beat them. just need a few more level, gear or RNG

pale kettle
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Ah, interesting. Did I choose the wrong heroes to level?

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My gear is too bad to be using those heroes. Tried and died in 2 seconds

pale rover
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@pale kettle Always only manually level your most capable to be ascended 5 heroes, no matter who it is. The reason for this is you will be able to unlock more levels for these 5, while the rest of your heroes you can put in the Resonating Crystal for free. It will give your level 1 heroes of lower ascensions the same level as the higher ones.

pale kettle
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i only have green and some blues for them

grand tide
pale rover
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@grand tide Hero list?

versed forge
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alternatively..... my Shemira is legendary, i could respec some stuff and make her level 121 ๐Ÿค”

grand tide
pale rover
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@versed forge Shemira will help in that stage. This is what I used for Chapter 9. Not sure if you're there, but it was against Graveborn.

versed forge
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im on 8-32. silvina is wrecking my backline, golus is just unkillable and niru keeps refilling everyone ๐Ÿ˜

pale kettle
grand tide
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I feel you dude silvina is a bully

plush ermine
versed forge
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surprisingly my saveas cant handle silvina from point blank, she either dodges or blocks many of his attacks... taking shemira to 121 and replacing saveas with her sounds good about now

pale rover
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@grand tide Move these around until it works, but: Niru Saveas Lucius (pick two) front, Vedan Ira Arden back.

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@pale kettle You need levels. And gear.

pale kettle
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i dont have any gold or xp

fossil moth
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I could ascend one of my light borne heroes. Should I and which one?

zinc token
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@pale rover their gears are fine.. i just rlly frustrated at this point, tried with arden, doesnt help, the 3 heroes on top dies always super quickly because of golus.. i tried full offense team but it still not enough

novel tusk
zinc token
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That is level.. situation

pale rover
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@plush ermine You're using the right factions. Can you crop and show me your hero list? It's a bit too small for me to see.

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@zinc token You can look at the pinned post in this channel if it helps you out too. I think your problem is ascensions.

plush ermine
zinc token
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Oof, i cant help with ascension. My pull have been really shitty...

novel tusk
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Oh dam I guess Iโ€™ll wait around then. Also I have 10 factional scrolls what faction should I be using scrolls on based on my team rn?

plush ermine
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My front liners get decimated by the enemy saveas almost instantly @pale rover

zinc token
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@novel tusk might want to change that frontline shemira to hogan, put her behind, lose tasi. 2 frontline is better than 2 dps/support that gets killed instantly..

eager hearth
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^ shem canโ€™t frontline unless she gets 161

pale rover
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@plush ermine Hogan in the spot in front of the enemy Ogi/Saveas should work, then place Khasos behind him. Other tank is Lucius, with Saveas behind him. Then Belinda in the middle back. This is for a burn team. For a team with crowd control, Hogan Lucius Saveas Arden Lyca (for haste, so Arden gets his roots up asap).

novel tusk
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hmm ill try it out and do you think i should spend my factional scrolls on grave born to get food for shem or go wilder to get my support heroes ascended

ocean crow
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I could use some advice with my line up

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I was thinking of replacing fawkes with shemera, would this be a good idea?

pale rover
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@ocean crow Replace Nemora with Shemira for a general lineup. That particular lineup is weak to Graveborn though, since it's mostly comprised of Lightbearers. For that stage you're in I'd suggest Ogi Seirus Arden Khasos Shemira.

ocean crow
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Cool, thank you!

round verge
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Any in the front line die pretty much immediately. Thoughts?

oak raven
pale rover
oak raven
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What lol they told me to go here when I had ascension questions

pale rover
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@oak raven Ascension is for questions, unless you're asking for a lineup. Silly them.๐Ÿ˜… May I see your other heroes?

oak raven
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That's pretty much all of them. I use nemora, lucius, Belinda, nira, hogan for my lineup

pale rover
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@oak raven If that's pretty much all of them and you haven't cleared Chapter 9: the only ones worth ascending to legendary in that list that will be helpful to you early on is Belinda, Arden, Lucius.. but I don't suggest eating Ogi for Arden just yet because I used him to clear 9. Thane and Estrilda are situationally good as well, but for late game.

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@oak raven Niru or Ira?

oak raven
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Er Ira. Should I make a legendary Belinda then or is it better to wait until I have 2?

pale rover
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@oak raven You can make a Legendary Belinda right now with no problems. Eat the Angelos or Morvus, those are your only fodder.

oak raven
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Awesome ty

pale rover
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pale kettle
queen sluice
shadow vessel
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I Need Help for my lineup

gilded fractal
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ooooo really nice tips

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@loud dagger you should pin that message!!

clear wind
loud dagger
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Smh . . . I forgot discord formatting wont override haha

grand tide
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@gilded fractal hows your adventure quest going bro

languid sorrel
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Having a bit of trouble, any recommendations

cerulean niche
gilded fractal
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@grand tide hehe im at 10-18 now how about u!!!

cerulean niche
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I just rolled khasos Epic, current team is Shamiru Saveas Nemora Ghrezul Thoran. Should I replace anything?

grand tide
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@languid sorrel I think this was my lineup for that level, might have been 9-40 idk

languid sorrel
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So im lacking dps? Vedan is the one bending me over

grand tide
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mwahaha Iโ€™m at 10-20 now @gilded fractal

@languid sorrel
Essentially I only used athalia to distract Isabella until my lucius could shield, vedan was the last person I killed because sav is the greatest of all time

languid sorrel
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Ah, i have no problem with lucius living to put up a few shields, but at the end its vedas vs brutus and brutus already has last grasp used so

loud dagger
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@languid sorrel the only CC you got there is fawkes tho

languid sorrel
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If I had Tasi E+ i would put her in for mirael

loud dagger
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Normally vedan goes free kill

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You have arden ? Root him up

grand tide
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Iโ€™d use Arden if he didnโ€™t die immediately all the time

gilded fractal
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@grand tide ay nice! im gonna try to get push there later haha

grand tide
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u should add me so I can keep track of ur progress

eager plinth
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I just started any tips

languid sorrel
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Tasi solved all my problems I guess LMAO

loud dagger
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Lols

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Gonna make part 3 . . . I still keep forgetting the most troublesome characters

grand tide
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you covered most of them ๐Ÿ˜Œ

opal hollow
grim hatch
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Can I get some help ?

lunar dirge
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Would you ascend Thane or Lucius?

urban shore
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@grim hatch at that point saveas will outperform shem try using him instead

lunar dirge
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Thane or Lucius for Legendary

grim hatch
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okay

urban shore
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shem isnt super amazing until 161

grim hatch
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but same line up ? just replace shemira ?

opal hollow
hushed crane
grand tide
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@opal hollow Lucius for sure

opal hollow
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Yep)

wintry knoll
proven finch
wintry knoll
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Top line is my line up

loud dagger
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Kill niru early

humble sky
loud dagger
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@humble sky none

urban shore
grand tide
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far beyond my capabilities

loud dagger
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@urban shore you end up being shemira staying ?

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Ooh how rare . . . Ascended numisu

grim hatch
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Who should I use as tank or what line up should I go for ? Replace shem with saveas ? Then ? @urban shore

urban shore
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@loud dagger bottom half folds almost immediately Brutus kills ogi but Shem can't build ult from being rooted the whole fight

loud dagger
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Kek

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Youll really need the classic trinity

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@grim hatch nemora out fawkes in

urban shore
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@grim hatch I mean your tanks are probably the best you can make for now

loud dagger
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If still not doable just lvl up

grim hatch
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Which tank should I use ? Ogi and est ?

loud dagger
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Nah nah nah

lunar dirge
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Is brutus better then Astrilda?

loud dagger
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Estrilda is just DPS not a tank

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Why compare two different roles ?

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Okay joking aside . . . .
Estrilda is all the way support dps

Brutus goes damage tank

lunar dirge
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I'm using Belinda, Estrilda, Lucius, Thane, and Ezizh

loud dagger
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Estrilda never meant to tank

urban shore
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Brutus is a great tank with his passive
Only really replaceable super late game with warek

lunar dirge
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Would you swap any of those out for Brutus?

loud dagger
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She just look durable cuz of the ridicule taunt (damage reduction to party)

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Also the energy grant from flag waving

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With CC on running over enemies

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Its practically support skill kit

grim hatch
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Ugh idk what to do lol ๐Ÿ˜‚

lunar dirge
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I just pulled Brutus so I'm trying to decide if I should swap him for any of those or keep my lineup

loud dagger
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Well id say swap

lunar dirge
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For Estrilda?

loud dagger
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Then just rotate them when having rough time on stages

lunar dirge
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Only downside is my Estrilda is Leg and Brutus is just elite

urban shore
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if they arent hitting level cap its not too big of a deal

loud dagger
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Hes a darn bruiser

lunar dirge
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I could also swap him out for Thane

loud dagger
wintry knoll
loud dagger
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Early game huh

wintry knoll
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Yeah

loud dagger
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@wintry knoll id say focus on them 5 at first

After that just ascend everyone while you progress

Next when you get a better hero on the highest ascend reset someone on your top 5 to lvl that hero up (most likely prefered Legendary + for that sweet lvl 160 cap)

wintry knoll
quartz jewel
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Heโ€™s come in clutch for me so far

urban shore
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yes saveas carries until like ch 13

loud dagger
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Ill recommend these heroes
Arden (root skill up to three people)
Saveas (early stage carry)
Lyca (haste on entry buff)

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@wintry knoll thats saveas indeed hes practically good

wintry knoll
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Ty sm

quartz jewel
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Arden is clutch too with his root skill

urban shore
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yes from what ive heard he is still almost necessary for some stages in ch 22

quartz jewel
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Iโ€™ve stopped a Brutus boss once with it and killed him just before he did that annoying spin move

loud dagger
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@quartz jewel its called spin to win

quartz jewel
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Would seem that way nearly wipes out 2 of my peeps in one go ๐Ÿ˜‘

loud dagger
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@urban shore a fun fact i still see him on defenses on top ranks past lvl 160 arden that is

wintry knoll
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Lol

safe path
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should i just use saveas over raine or something

loud dagger
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Guessing your lineup is that top 5

timid stratus
safe path
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yeah its the top 5

loud dagger
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Angelo mechanic

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@timid stratus check pinned messages that might help dealing with it

timid stratus
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@loud dagger ?

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@loud dagger where's pinned messages

muted stream
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@timid stratus

reef flower
tranquil garden
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Stuck for quite some time, can anyone help? Generally having difficulty in stage 8 because my current team are mostly LB

timid stratus
tranquil garden
hot topaz
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@tranquil garden maybe give it a try on brutus

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Oh wait

timid stratus
hot topaz
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@timid stratus you only have one resonating crystal slot?

fading cipher
dark mantle
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@fading cipher Can you share all of your heroes?

timid stratus
hot topaz
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@timid stratus try arden instead of fawkes

fading cipher
timid stratus
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@hot topaz alright

dark mantle
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@fading cipher Lucius, Brutus, Belinda, Mirael, Saveas. Try that and see if that helps at all.

hot topaz
loud dagger
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They deleted the pin so

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I did something wrong so ill fix that first then put them here

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Sorry for the inconvenience

nocturne peak
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Thanks for the hard work. ๐Ÿ‘ dabsi

dark mantle
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@hot topaz Can you share all your heroes?

hot topaz
dark mantle
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It's tricky because you don't have many Wilder or Mauler to choose from... Maybe try Lucius, Ogi, Numisu, Ira, Arden and see if that works at all.

hot topaz
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Yeah I am wanting to focus on graveborn, @dark mantle got rekt instantly with the team, I guess I have to afk more

dark mantle
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@hot topaz Factional advantage is really important, might just have to level up more

fiery wing
hot topaz
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I just need the crystal to get to 121

tranquil garden
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Need help with stage 8-32. Been having troubles because the entire chapter is against Graveborns (Running a LB team).

austere cliff
fading cipher
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Umm, that's Soren.

pale kettle
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Hmm?

gilded fractal
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im so bewildered by that image

pale rover
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@gilded fractal Focus your attack on the bottom line, because Golus is way too tanky. He probably should and will be the last to die. Arden bottom back so he most likely roots Saveas and Isabella.

half ermine
crimson shale
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@austere cliff idk if u did it on purpose but u posted an image of your team against Soren

gilded fractal
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@pale rover sorry late response!! thanks ill try it :)

loud dagger
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If you had problems with certain stages please check this out just ping me when i missed out a hero so we can add them to the guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11HSed1P1hD6T2yOe0UdpqOn327AvOBeiuUqoI-KLlaA/edit?usp=drivesdk

willow plaza
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Any advice guys?

gilded fractal
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@pale rover i believe your advise was sound, my saveas just gets shredded though bc he has pretty bad def/hp based armor : [ so ill wait to improve that. thanks !

pale rover
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@loud dagger Nice guide! This will be useful to refer to, thank you!

loud dagger
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Golus is pretty annoying

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@pale rover i just ended being scolded by space-sama before i finalized that

willow plaza
gilded fractal
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golus strategy is survive the other 4 units and then gang up on him ;P

loud dagger
pale rover
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@gilded fractal You can do it. Saveas in front needs great gear and levels for sure, but you can do it eventually.โ˜บ๏ธ

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@loud dagger Lmao I asked him when I pinned because I don't want to get scolded. snarlaugh

gilded fractal
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@pale rover im trying estrilda replacing belinda and in front of sav on the bottom, im gonna see how that will go!

glad oyster
pale rover
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@gilded fractal Oh good choice, that might work out! Let me know how it goes.

glad oyster
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Also what's a good silvana counter

loud dagger
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@glad oyster
Try
Arden lucius
Brutus shemira
Saveas

Test it out

gilded fractal
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@pale rover i think its my most promising option, but still not quite enough :[ gonna keep trying tho

pale rover
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@willow plaza Level your underlevelled units. You can try Ogi Thoran Arden Saveas and Ira for a team bonus.

loud dagger
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Silvina jumps on lowest armor mage

bleak crag
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any advice? also not sure who would be a good team going forward. been kind of winging it

neon sleet
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is Lucius any good at all?

pale kettle
zinc token
last granite
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@zinc token try swapping lucius and hogan position

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Also take shemira and tasi off the resonating crystal and put lucius and arden instead so your all of your heroes can reach level 120

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Reset golus and use the resource to level up your main heroes instead

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@pale kettle i don't recommend that. Arden is a powerful cc

pale kettle
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@last granite I was thinking since I had Tasi I wouldnโ€™t use him really

last granite
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@pale kettle both are really great cc tbh. But a lot of people keep arden because on of the 3 roots ability when he's high level

pale rover
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I use Tasi with Arden and Lyca.

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Alternatively, you'll graduate to Tasi Lyca Nemora but that's after Chapter 20.

loud dagger
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Yeah thats a good tip . . . Place the highest ascending frame on crystal to adjust the lvl cap

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Besides arden is good

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Since hes one of the so called trinity of wilders

zinc token
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Okay

pale kettle
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Iโ€™m running lucious/seirius/saveas/task/Belinda. Think thatโ€™s my best set up?

loud dagger
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A silvina

zinc token
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@last granite i just realised i only have 4 E+ .....

pale kettle
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Legendary Belinda, elite+ serous, or elite lucious. Who should I make 101 next?

silent terrace
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@opal hollow might as well use athalia rather than golus, for more bonus

last granite
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@opal hollow swap lucius and fawkes with other rare+ heroes on resonating crystal. You're limiting your other heroes to just level 100 when they can be level 120

pale kettle
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Or elite tasi or elite+ Arden?

last granite
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@zinc token oh right, i didnt see that either. It thought lucius is e+

zinc token
silent terrace
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@pale kettle L+ arden is needed, until you reach higher than 160

pale kettle
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I canโ€™t get enough good units to get anyoneโ€™s rarity up ๐Ÿ˜ญ

zinc token
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@last granite is ferael better than silvina in world 7

silent terrace
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@zinc token in my own opinion, until 141, silvina is better

minor totem
pale kettle
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Im using (Legendary Lucius,Legendary Vedan,Elite+ Belinda, Elite Shemira and Brutus) is this a good lineup?

vale bobcat
minor totem
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@pale kettle I think you should have faction buff

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@vale bobcat try to switch your arden to khasos..

safe path
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seveas over raine?

last granite
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@minor totem labyrinth is all about relics. You can choose anyone tbh so long you got 2 tanks, dps and maybe cc if needed

minor totem
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@last granite sorry ,what I mean is I will buy hero using labyrint coin..shemira khasos nemora or estrilda

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@safe path u should try a team that has a faction bonus

last granite
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@minor totem oooh okay. According to the people either nemora or shemira

safe path
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its hard to get a faction bonus when i have nemora lucius shemira and ezizh

minor totem
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@last granite I see.. maybe I should save my coin for the meantime. after I got copy of shemira or nemora

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@safe path dude u should try a full lightbringer team.. im pretty sure that u can beat that stage

safe path
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u beat it with full lightbringer?

vale bobcat
minor totem
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@vale bobcat nice comgrats bro

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lots of hero in this game are OP.. but the most OP is the faction bonus..

pine goblet
cedar hill
pale trout
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Well faction bonus is good, but still has a limit

minor totem
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@pine goblet try to have a team that has a faction bonus for example 3light 2maulers..or 4maulers etc

pale kettle
cedar hill
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I always used to have Mirael Brutus Savaes water guy and Tasi but i came to a point where i cant win no more

minor totem
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@pale trout the good thing in faction bonus is the stats u have the more additional bonus stats u get

last granite
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@pine goblet try front grezhul hogan (put hogan against golus. Back belinda saveas ezizh. See who silvina attacks first

pine goblet
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@minor totem losing with 2light 3mauler

hot topaz
minor totem
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@pine goblet try full light

cedar hill
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Or is it because im facing legendary+ while i only have 1 legendary

last granite
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@pale kettle who did silvina attacks first? Is tasi able to use her ultimate?

pine goblet
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@last granite belinda is getting hit first

last granite
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@pine goblet belinda is your one of your dps so protect her we must. You're gonna need a bait. I know saveas is great but try swapping him with arden. Hopefully by the time arden dies everyone is able to use their ultimate

hot topaz
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@cedar hill try tasi and ira together to switch with mireal and vedan

elder owl
ocean hill
hot topaz
gilded fractal
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@vapid pond yo cmere post your hero list lets see what we can do

hot topaz
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Alice, help ulricry and hey again oof

vapid pond
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sec

cedar hill
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@hot topaz i noticed that tasi never stuns anyone at the beginning of this game and she always gets one shot once vedan goes bats mode

gilded fractal
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@hot topaz try to lvl your saveas more so he can function as your carry. i really feel for you, ch 9 is hell and i have alot of the same units you do haha

ocean hill
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@hot topaz why are you not ascending shem to leg +?

pine goblet
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@last granite did worse with arden. Also my saveas does a better dps job than belinda.

hot topaz
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@ocean hill nah, I have to raise all my team above 120

hot topaz
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I made someone else legendary to fill the 5 slots

last granite
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@pine goblet how close are you to win with the saveas belinda ezizh comp?

vapid pond
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the only good ones are raine, beli, nemo and lucius

gilded fractal
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@vapid pond try lucius/estrilda (or brutus) fronline, belinda/raine(or nemora)/arden backline

ocean hill
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@hot topaz you can cart her for 20 diamond thou get all your resouces to level one of the current diamonds to 120 instead???