#lineup-help
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Have u tried saveas instead of bel
@thin kite Grez in front not working due to ascension?
And yes, Saveas.
Like my lineup ^
I havent dumped belinda in a while mainly cause i think sav needs 121. Also my agility gear is low while my padded armor is quite decent kinda think I need to spend some diamonds on legendary+ gear for lucius
Nah don't spend diamonds on gear unless it's Mythic tier 40% off from Arcane Lab.
Many say thats not smart to do until you can obtaib mythic gear
Aero fell asleep helping me last night? ๐
Alright thanks ill give sav a shot
Lol I figured, it's ok, we shall try again later, working atm.
You could try tasi ogi
Khasos nem sav
Any tips for 7-40?
My biggest issue on 920 is my front getting destroyed before tasi can use her ultimate
Do you have Arden. Arden works better than tasi, I think, on that level. You only need to buy time for sav to kill vedan and IRA.
He is only blue
I keep getting obliterated here guys, any tips? Just afk?
It'll do as long as he can survive to root. He's in for the root not damage
I think ill have to wait for tomorrow to summon another 10 heros with friend tokens and up my squad with a total of 2 levels each then I shouls be able to make it then I can buy 2700 pack again and thay should help
Yea figured ill give it a shot have 1 reso spot open. Maybe the nazeebo looking mauler dude is an idea for future stages the totemic dude
Don't know what to ascend here and stuck on 8-32
@fossil moth get saveas to 120 before getting others to 100
Wait for another legendary tier e+ and have saveas at l+ and max him @astral lodge
@wind orchid saveas to lvl 100 and easy progress
@still oar then I focus brut or belinda?
Any tips to beat 9-40?
Brut. Save Brutus combo can go along way.
Such as
Brut tank/cc
Sav cc cc
Or
Brut tank/cc
Cc cc sav
@pale kettle IAM sorry but I don't remember the stage
I don't get what you meant @still oar xD sorry. What sav cc cc? Is that formation?
Cc is for crowd control heroes such as Arden nemora tasi and the like. Those are heroes positioning
Ideas on what should I start focusing on now? Originally plan was to max saveas to 161 and go shemira past that, but wilder/mauler seems much more reasonable now. Coul kaz carry past 161?
Any advice?
@willow plaza switch saveas and lucius, focus on killing niru first
Silv kills backline pretty fast
Also replace shemira with fawkes for 3+2 bonus
@fallen olive sav capped at 160. If you want to use Mauler wilder combo use Mauler as dps and wilder cc
@still oar yup, i hope ill be able to get brutus copies to make him carry once saveas cant lvl highee
@willow plaza Brut luc
Fawk kha sav. Who is silv's target?
Can you raise the base level? Especially nemora to tank silv
If you could try this
Ogi Bru
Lyca nem sav
Hey lads, i'd appreciate any advice you can spare
Nemora is so squishy. And itโs hard to raise since iโll have to go through the people on the pentagon too
Well u need some one to tank/bait silvina. And she's the best candidate
Silv usually one shots everyone she goes on :(((
She does.
@willow plaza line up brutus agains niru and saveas bottom and prio is that niru gets blown up first. Then for rest you want them to just stay alive untill niru dies, you also need the 3 of same faction +2 of same faxtion bonuses and saveas should handle the rest
Then I am afraid you are not strong enough to rng
Okay okay
@velvet linden max your saveas out, get him to 100 before leveling others. He will 1-2 shot the enemies snd carry you really hard
What wrong on my formation?? Its bad or just weak?
@willow plaza๐
@mental fern havent done that one yet but I assume niru keeps healing up as the enemy assassins kill your backline and you don't really have time to get ults going?
@mental fern try to swap arden and lyca's positions and raise arden's defense to be higher than nemora
Khasos axe can intercept arden's root casting
Someone wise enough with lineups to help me best this guy?
And since you can't level anyone past 140 atm looks to me like you will get it once things get strong enough to not die before ults
Besting fawkes and tasi is so cancer without your own :(
Okey I Will try ... Ahhh IV the problem its more Silvina She kill very fast my aiden
Yes
Silvina aims the weakest mage, thats why try to incrs arden's defense so she targets nemora and stun her first and arden could get his roots off
Shankiu I Will try rn
If it doesnt work, then i guess u need to be afk more, get levels and ascencions ๐ @mental fern
@faint anvil Maybe ๐
Thoughts on best vs 10-8?
@fallen olive Should I relevel my highest and make Sav 81?
How to beat 9-20
@velvet linden yup, just max saveas always whe you can pretty much. Since his damage scales with his hp, overleveled saveas is stupid strong
How do I do this ._.
@boreal hull try to put belinda and shemira as tanks
@boreal hull replace shem with brutus
If it doesnt work, afk more to get levels and ascenciona xD
Go for more Maulers, or use faction in LB or Wilder?
ok ^_^ thanks for the advice
Faction scrolls that is
@stuck spire wilder for sure, pray that u will get lyca and tasi. U will be super strong
Better than 4 mauler aura?
@stuck spire cc is always better than dps
Still learning ๐ค thanks
Try lyca nemora arden or lyca nemora tasi. U will be satisfied seeing enemy cant move xD
Sac Ulmus to legend Nemora yes?
Yessss u are not going to use him xD
someone help me how i can beat this? pretty please, stuck for so long 
@turbid kraken reset shem to 101 and throw all xp on saveas till hes 140
And move merman to front line, I would think
No, merman will die instantly to golus
Merman 1 Luc 2?
Also use atleast 3 of same faction
Swap mer for fawkes maybe.
^^
Then you'd have extra cc and triple lightbearer
@turbid kraken use Fawkes' instead of serius
Put silvina's target near sav tank golus and attack from above
Which lvl is it?
@normal echo 8-32
What faction I suppose to focus?
@rich acorn switch belinda ezizh to nemora tasi and golus to thoran
@pale kettle 9-40?
9-20 /:
@pale kettle put saveas on trees place, replace tree with fawkes for faction bonus
Ty
@elfin cargo GB or wilder, you are good to go, even LB
Im stuck on 7-40 and this is my lineup. Any suggestions?
will try, thanks guys
brb
@fallen olive didnt work...yet I can definitely see something here with this.Thanks for the help!
@rich acorn were stuck on the same lvl lol
@tame apex try lucius, ezzih, nemora, tasi, arden
@near mist thank you i will!
If it's not working, tell me
@cerulean niche
Thoran, grezhul, Shemira, nemora, saveas
Or
Hogan, Grezhul, shemira, athalia, nemora/Belinda
13-4 tips?
Hey, I am presently running all of these 4+ Lucius. Which one should I prioritize ascending next? I feel like itโs Fawkes or Belinda.
Good choice
Should i ascend Arden or Tasi first ?
@white raven who does silv jumps to?
Goburin i was running setup 1 but my tanks die really quick, should i equalize their levels or focus on shemira till 101 then saveas 101?
@still oar
Fawkes
If Belinda & fawkes is in the same team, she jumps to bel
@white raven indeed, silvina always jump to mage with lowest defense
Lul, I approve. Fawkes is my fav character ingame. I'm debating doing it just for that reason. I do care a lot about progressing though...heh @near mist
@cerulean niche equalize first, try to make everyone at least 81. That's a huge milestone
still can't do it, don't have enough to make saveas 140
@white raven try to put nemora and arden instead of fawkes and luci
Tell me if it's working
So thats where im going wrong. Alright so 81 is a milestone to hit, what should i keep in mind when recreating a setup in future? I saw Shemira as a "solo carry" so i pumped everything into her
@near mist that worked! Lol thanks for the suggestion
please help senpai
@turbid kraken do you have the dust for serius?
Look for hitting the levels that boost your hero's skills. It is often more impactful to focus on 1 character until they get a big skill boost before leveling another. You can see the level benchmarks when you click on your hero skills in the hero menu @cerulean niche
@near mist nem infront or back?
@cerulean niche shemira is indeed a solo carry, but you need to make her 161+ for her to truly carry
Saveas is more realiable than shem, at least at lvl 120-160
@tame apex gratzz
Keep in mind that this isn't a "hard" rule. Just something to keep in mind when looking for upgrades etc ๐
@turbid kraken show me kouhai
should i level seirus?
@still oar
i reset shemira and leveled saveas 
@white raven depending on
I'd like to make silv target nem and put him inf front of saveas
Could you do that by adjustin the armor?
@near mist
@turbid kraken show me the full hero pool as well
@turbid kraken no I just need make ur base level 101 and see if it'll work
huh?
Try lucius, seirus, nemora, saveas, Ira
And yeah, make everyone 101+ @turbid kraken
Your lowest 5th is 100. Can you make it 101?
You should up serius to 101
So the order i should be focusing on bringing up to milestones should be saveas>shemira>nemora>the 2 tanks?
@near mist tried, but nem died in just a Sec lolol
@cerulean niche yeah, saveas will worth the investment
@white raven aww ๐
You get tasi?
Or lyca?
I was focusing on shemira cuz she was epic and my saveas was a lowly rare xd
@near mist i do, but theyโre only E Lolol
Yeah dude, ascend save
@turbid kraken yes now try what goburisan recomended
like this?
and team formation?
Try lucius, seirus, nemora, saveas, Ira
And yeah, make everyone 101+ @Maranoci Uninorc
Goburisan said
Aha then use, arden, tasi, saveas, khasos, Brutus
Or
Lyca, arden/tasi, saveas, khasos, Brutus
Works for me @white raven
but golus will shred seirus instant?
@near mist are my hero underleveled? Still failed haha
Hmmm prob with enough try and rng you will win, i prove that myself, exact same composition and tier hero (elite tasi and lyca) โ ๐ @white raven
Shemโs ulti literally wiped my team
If you get tired of trying, afk and lvl up
That's why, put arden kr tasi
Give gasi trumpet
@near mist ooh so whatโs ur current lineup like now?
suggestion??
Guys how do I beat this stage, I've been stuck there for so long, or do I just need to be afk and upgrade my team? (10-36)
Ahh... what faction & tavern pulls did u go for?
@near mist don have enough mythic heroes to break 160 cap??
@near mist Dm me if ya need any help lol. This channel is so much spam xD
@gentle stratus oki dokie
@near mist thanks dude 
@white raven when i was a newb, i switch around for faction
Recently i've been going mauler while previously GB, shemira and brutus
@turbid kraken gratzzz
Any advice? I also have saveas.
@pale kettle lucius for the sword guy up top left
Brutus?
@pale kettle nemora instead of grezhul, put the heroes like this
Shemira brutus
Nemora lyca
Arden
9 28 any suggestions
Best team ?
I would do brutus lucius fawkes nemora Belinda @pale kettle
Which Lightbringer to Ascend from Elite+? My team has been light on tanks, ive been using Hogan as my main tank.
Hogan ur best bet for now
cheers
I want to improve my lineup what should I change
help stuck here for 4 days....
@humble sky f2p? You lucky bastid.
Yes I just started a few days ago
@humble sky I would go Brutus/kaz/nemora/tasi/sav. You will hard stuck at chapter 6, but once you've gotten sav and brutus to 101 it should be fine.
Yeah Iโm stuck at 6-24. So I need to invest everything on Brutus and Saveas? Thanks!
Don't worry too much about it, once you reached your 7-9th day, you should have enough exp to power through chapter 6. And yeah, focus on L saveas first.
Alright! Thanks!
any advice guys?:(
Best team for soren
Does anyone have any ideas, I feel actually stuck
Use sevas? @boreal ermine insted of nemora
Hello, Im pretty new to the game so im pretty clueless, im stuck on 5-20. anyone help optimize my team with the pool of chars i have?
id love some help with a lineup! ch 9 in general has been a struggle given what i have hah......
8-40, any help please :)
Top 5 and Thane are my most used
Replace anyone?
Heyo, I'm completely stuck on 9-20. Any tips? My team can't survive long enough to kill Vedan or Niru
@shut parrot screenshot your lineup
I've tried almost every combo and if i just need to wit to get belinda to lvl 130 or what :/
Hey guys, im struggling with this level (9-20), what would my best lineup I could do against them be with my current heroes? ๐
@median star Ogi Kaz Arden Shemira Saveas.
@quick idol Khasos Vedan Silvina Shemira Saveas.
@whole palm Soren is graveborn so using a mix of wilders and maulers against him would be good.
@boreal ermine Who are your other heroes? Send a photo of your hero list and the stage together.
@dim flume Hogan Golus Saveas Belinda Arden (no team bonus), or Golus Ogi Arden Ira Saveas (team bonus), or Estrilda Hogan Vedan Shemira Silvina (for pure damage).
@gilded fractal Seirus Skregg Kaz Saveas Arden. Does the frontline survive?
@zenith rover Skregg Lucius Saveas Nemora Ira.
@harsh sail Hogan Ogi Arden Belinda Thane/Athalia.
@solid lintel You can replace Estrilda with Raine for Belinda. If you want a team bonus replace Shemira with Estrilda in. 3-2 team.
@shut parrot Ogi Brutus Arden Saveas Lyca/Nemora for 9-20.
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@dark basin Thoran Seirus Athalia/Silvina Shemira Kaz/Ferael for 9-20.
@wild kraken #bug-reports
Thanks
Thanks! Iโll try that! ๐ @pale rover
Good luck everyone!
Ty
๐ @pale rover
Thanks @pale rover โค
You're all very welcome thank you for being patient.โบ๏ธ
@pale rover Thanks, but my team still insta dies |D
Need help for best lineup, any advice/help?
@shut parrot How's their gear?
I die too quickly, Rip. Why not use Lucius? ๐ฎ @pale rover
@rich barn You're doing great with your lineup, just replace Nemora and Tasi first since you have too much crowd control. Add Saveas and Belinda.
@dark basin Graveborn > Lightbearers. Niru and Vedan will eat him alive.
@pale rover Many thanks, will try that now ๐๐ผ
Oh, I see ๐ฎ I still get BLASTED tho, thanks for the help anyways :)) guess I just have to lvl up heroes/get more heroes ๐ @pale rover
@pale rover al mostly elite to elite plus
@dark basin I think your problem is also gear. Same as @shut parrot because both of your levels aren't very far from the opponents'.
This is what I used for 9-20 to 9-40 if it helps anyone.
@shut parrot the trick is to have lots of burst to kill niru before he cab heal from others dying. So figure out something to kill him asap while others survive. Too bad you cant push savesd to 140, im at 10-4 with rhis lineup
^
Oh, I canโt upgrade it much tho. All my usable heroes wears Elite/Elite+/Legendary gear
That's pretty much the trick. Niru is the one killing everyone because if any of your team dies he gets stronger.
Is Shemira worth running elite?
You need to focus your stronger teams on his side and burst him down asap.
I could but upgrade sav to legendary but I would need to sacrifice an ascneded tier hero to do it
Wilders, Maulers and Graveborn all work equally decently, just don't use Lightbearers (especially frontliners) if you can help it.
Don't sacrifice, just wait for fodder.
@thick gulch #classic-questions
@shut parrot yeah not worth it
How to beat
@thick gulch saveas to 140
Suggestions?
Or I can sac two sav's for either a niru legend or skreg legend @fallen olive
@shut parrot nah definitely keep saves till youre past lvl 161
howdy
@dim chasm lvl saveas to 100
is he really that good early on?
Heโs insane
Yup, his damage scales with his hp so wheb hes overleveled he 1 or 2 shots enemies
Been stuck for a while on this one
@harsh sail try saveas hogan front athalia khasos belinda back. Hopefully that will kill enemy niru before he starts healing and powering ip
Not even close @fallen olive
I bought Nem and did 3 x10s but got nothing useful and can't beat this stage any help on what hero to reset and invest in instead?
Think I'm just out gunned
Any tips on who to use and or level first ?
@pale rover not very well :( thank u for the help, i genuinely think the lineup you suggested may have worked well were the frontline higher than elite x)
Help with this level pls^^
@native thunder lyca bru
Sav nem Arden
You can try place sav in the middle and nemora behind bru
For who put ezizh legendary when i have?
It dont work, Nemora dont have time to ult before everyone is dead ;)
@pale rover
@native thunder can i see your other heroes?
@pale kettle what do you mean by that?
Sacrifice e+ Vedan and e+ Silvina to make L Ferael y/n?
been stuck here for days now
@proud thunder try to make team bonus, that's on the top left corner when choosing your team, but rather than resetting too many times, i think you just focus leveling on the time being,
wilder weak against mauler, your team might be hard handling this stage for the moment
@native thunder well i think you need some leveling on damage dealer, but mauler weak against lightbearer so maybe something like
estrillda lucius fawker belinda nemora
Hey guys can you help me with a line-up i'm stuck at 6-36
Or any tips are welcomed i'm kinda new too
Belinda > Mirael, Lucius (if u have him) is better than Hogan
@pale kettle depends on the team, but i'd go with no except you have another ferael elite+
@vivid stag i think it's pretty good, just switch saveas and fawkes, never put saveas to hit brutus,
Could u have a look at my setup please @cerulean shore u seem quite knowledgable
Thanks
Try a full set of LB
Where are the hero tier lists
Command chat I think
Nice Profile pic @dark tundra , pretty sick char
Hello guys ! What should be my team for Arena please ?
Hahaha thank u

Doesnt beat son hak though 
Ehhh too mainstream but thats off topic
@supple ice i dont think shemira will survive with that wilder damage dealer
you might try switching belinda with athalia if you have
Wow I just saw I could up my Belinda to L+ by posting my box here
Best comp for wrizz/guildboss?
@pale kettle i'd go with brutus thoran saveas ferael and shemira
Any help how can i beat 8-40
@maiden cargo wrizz is mauler, weak against lightbearer, but you need something like lucius to make the team survive long enough
I need help on 13-24 if anyone could help me that I would appreciate it ๐
Whale 
@brave gyro switch belinda and athalia, too bad you dont have fawkes though
Current team is in blue, I can either get shemira to myth+ or grezhul to myth, any suggestions which one to ascend?
Hit a brick wall what should I work on?
@pale kettle i think it needs level, it would be nice if you have an overleveled shemira though
or try to build greveborn team
Best team I can make out of this? Stuck on 8-12 and KT 99 (Brutus and double Brutus)
@dark tundra besides that, can you give me advice on 13-24?
@pale kettle try to use cc
@cerulean shore really it's my level? Alight I'll try leveling up more. My friend beat it and he is on same levels as me, but...he use Wilder team with 3 myth+
@jaunty ore i went with shemira, my 200 level shemira got me to chapter 18 lol the rest is 2 161 and 160
@cerulean shore thx dude i won ๐ like 40 tries before and on this worked second time
Mikale have u tried over level 1 hero?
Hmmm... I was considering going for 5xmythic 161+ but even if I did grezhul that would require me to also get nemora and numisu to red and they're kind of fodder I think
Also I can get my shemira to leg+, not sure if that's enough but I'll try
@dark tundra im no sure what means this question?
@pale kettle well i actually beat that with 170 shemira on the whole stage 12 and 13 :v
the rest is level 141 and team always change depends on enemy
Well if I make shemira 170 everything else would have to be 121 probably
The bane of my existence ๐
Probably not even... I can do 160
Guess u need to level up more or enhance your mythic gear
@pale kettle arden and nemora might be good but you'll lack of damage
No tasi or fawkes? If Belinda or mirael cast ult my team dies sadly
I was swapping tasi and nem. Think it may be a level thing at the moment.
@signal canopy try to figure out something to make niru die first, after that you should be fine as you outlevel the fight
Help pls
@dull wadi reset others than saveas, get them to 81, then saveas to 120 and then level evenly towards 100
2 wilder 3 lightbringer
any help? ngl the units i have make these recent wilder and gb chapters the Utmost struggle sighs
within a few days i can make nemora elite+ or shemira leg+ since my lab shop will refresh so if thats any help to plan a formation pls toss all ideas at me
enemy ogi's are obnoxious
so stack your dps on him
yep i tried that. always put my sav up top.
before he can yeet your frontline
also yeah idk how you can do much better than bel + lucian + arden + shemira + saveas
i just do not have a really good formation i can put around sav to keep enemies pushed back with all my LB and no well ascended good wilders or maulers besides arden or sav. yknow?
yeah thanks thats exactly how i saw things :[] it is a constant struggle
@gilded fractal get saveas to 140 and put him on slot 2
tbh
that comp just looks like "be overleveled or lose because vaden is bs when overleveled and we have cc and assassins"
OH though ive been too lazy to do secrets of the forest bc of finals lmao maybe i can do that. but i heard you need a wilder team so for me thats a bit..... 
@fallen olive thats actually exactly what im working on HAHA i knew you were gonna say that given your un
Well it depends: does your Lucius get his ult off before he dies? In my team I had to switch Nemora and Lucius so that he survived longer
@lament rapids yep he does. still no go.
i believe i have far too many lb as my moost viable options hahaha cries
Welp...
Having a rough time breaking through the damn Saveas' healing, by the end of the fight he's just a wall of health who just melts whoever I have left up, and recommends?
u dont have an carry?
Who do I Level to 140 next? I havenโt been using Shemira much so maybe Belinda or Lucius?
@eternal vortex get a faction bonus with belinda hogan angelo saveas golus
that is my team but u can see I got an elite Belinda and an Elite Angelo, should I replace Mirael with Belinda
?
do angelo belinda saveas in back golus hogan tank
and reset the rest to lvl them mirael lvls to angelo
Whatโs the best lineup I can do to beat 8-40 that legendary elite silv wrecks me ๐
Should I switch anyone???
@craggy bough Reset your elites you're using and place them in reso crytal. Then level up your elite+ to 101, that way all your elites in reso can overlevel their level cap.
But my elite +is 116
9-20 my frontliners are dying really fast and Iโm having trouble pinpointing the issue
@queen tree your saveas isnt 140
Reset others to 101 and level them up after saveas, niru needs to die first, put him on slot 1 so he kills niru quick
ok ill give tht i try, ty <3
Np, his damage scales with both his max hp and damage and the attack speed is insane so he's overpowered when hes much higher level
Hey guys, I started about 8 days ago and I was wondering if you guys think I need to reroll or just stick it out with this account. Thanks
Rerolling isn't very helpful anyway, but this is a pretty decent account
@light elm thanks. Which faction do you think I should focus on going forward?
How should I line up
Who to ascend
Can I get some line up help
Just got Belinda and I could ascend one of my heroes to the next level, is my current team okay or I should use Belinda or Hogan or Mirael?
@bronze lintel make sure ur playing with the faction pluses you could run estrilda instead of brutus for the 4 and 1 bonus 15% hp 20% attack
@placid dirge Iโll give it a shot
@bronze lintel for that level I'd run seirus over brutus or estrilda just for the graveborn killing
Any idea how to beat this stage?
Seirus is amazing for graveborn control
Which one i need to build up/ascend for next?
Anyway I can improve upon my line up? Top 5 are the ones Iโm currently using
I have shemira, nemora, saveas, the mouse and beast dude, and belinda
Is that a good team?
Any tips? A bit stuck...
Any help with this would be appreciated!
Help with my 9-39 lineup please
@pale kettle have you tried brutus(or lucius)/tasi frontline saveas/arden/nemora backline?
@gilded fractal Ive used Brutus/Tasi Front.. Saveas, Nemora and Arden at the back but it kills me everytime
Hey guys, currently I'm happy with this lineup. I'm a bit stuck on 6-32 but nothing that a few level ups wont help.
My question is, what heroes should I look out to replace and which ones should I ascend sooner?
@wheat geyser saveas 

Any idea how to beat this? My frontline does within 13 seconds while the back line doesnโt even get the spells off ...
Just get celestial 5โ Ezizh
bruh just win the game lmfao
ggez
@fossil moth you definitely have to level more. your frontline is pretty fragile as is, so you need to maximize your tankiness as much as you can using levels. can you position estrilda somewhere where she can run into belinda? im not too sure how her charging attack works. try belinda instead of shemira.
also, reset shemira and manually level hogan. bc shemira is only elite, your heroes on the crystal can only be a maximum lvl of 100. if you put your exp into hogan, youll have a lineup of all elite+s, allowing you to level your crystal heroes up to lvl 120. @fossil moth
@gilded fractal thanks for the advice. i will try that
@fossil moth good luck!
Hi. What's the best team I can run given these heroes?
I'm stuck on 9-16 and need help
Which part is killin ya? Iโd trade out Numisu for saveas if you have it, or maybe athalia so she can bring nemora backwards to your team
And I heard khasos is a backliner because he gets more damage, placed in the middle so he can hit both, but I donโt see another tank you could put
I'm stuck on that same level. Do I have a better lineup to counter it
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Just based on faction advantage, your team is weak against them. The boss is Graveborn and your team is predominantly Light.
I would suggest maybe trying different frontline, with Mauler or Wilder to eat some of the damage.
I'm not gonna lie I forgot all about factional advantage. I'll try it, thanks
@tranquil hill Different parts depending on the mix in lineup. Got Seirus as a kinda tank, but he falls through and gets killed quickly...will try more switch arounds and pray to be lucky.
A lot of the time what I do is just find the formation that gets me the ~closest~ to winning, and I just keep doing that over and over until my team lands a clutch crit and I win by luck. I also run Lucius and a lot of the time his bubble is the key to whether it's winnable or not. @cobalt inlet
Yea I'll run it over and over. I got closer using a couple of wilders
Hello everyone! Im now at 100/100 summons done and im wondering who i should pick with those units around. I was thinking Brutus or Tasi since in 2 days ill get shemira out of the laby. Thanks for your help!
I will probably replace Grezhul by Shemira btw
Saveas works well with Brutus if you place him behind him! @clear solar
fawkes or estrilda to mythic 1st?
Lucious, Belinda, Brutus, Saveas....annnnnd Healing Lamb Chick? or someone else for the bonus?
Any1 can help me with my question from earlier as well please? thanks
@edgy helm it depends on the situation
@edgy helm I wasn't sure what you were asking. Are you just wondering what team to use out of the heroes that you have currently? What level are you on?
i cant realy focus on too many units fo i want a decent team to focus on first if possible ๐
Line up help?
im on 5-24 atm and still going. Im mostly wondering who i should summon on my Hero pick up from 100 summons later. im aiming for shemira in 2 days so there that to take in consideration. What team formation i could make with what i curently have, shemira counted in, and who i should summon on hero pick up considering all that. ๐
@plain badger Wilder is weak against their team. Try and go more Light heavy if possible. Lucius and Belinda would be strong here. Try Lucius and Hogan frontline. Belinda, Mirael, and maybe keep Vedan in the back. See what happens
Okay thanks
@edgy helm Oh, you're wondering what faction to spend your Tavern Token on?
@dark mantle ok ty!
so i guess i should use the token on Wilders faction to maybe get Lyca or Tasi to that end?
@edgy helm Yeah I'd say go Wilder
Yo guys - Could you please help me with my lineup and formation?
@woeful portal Depends on what level you are on currently! Are you stuck or just wanting to try out a new team?
got tasi hell yeah
im on stage 6-36
@edgy helm Awesome!
@woeful portal What does that stage look like? Or what faction are the enemies?
Who should i reppace with tasi in this team? Estrilda?
All the enemies are Maulers. I have been stuck for a few days now...
@woeful portal Have you tried Estrilda, Hogan, Belinda, Ira(or Kaz), Arden? I find that faction bonus/advantage plays a large role.
No not yet. The normal formation i go with is :
Should i proceed with my current formation, or do as you just told me?
I would try going Light heavy since they are strong against Mauler.
Light heavy? Hmm. Which formation should I choose out of the heroes i have? and could you please inform which ones should be in the front and back
Lightbearers * ^
Estrilda top front, Hogan bottom front. Belinda top back, then Arden, then either Ira or Kaz. @woeful portal I would try this and then maybe try switching the placement of the frontline/
I see. Should i do that even tho my Arden and Estrilda are only Epic, while my current formation is Epic+ ?
@simple viper Lucius, Brutus, Belinda, Mirael, Raine.
@woeful portal I would try it out, the game is pretty forgiving about doing trial-and-error, though resetting people with gems kind of sucks sometimes. If you're stuck the best thing to do is try everything possible until it works.
Thoughts?
Alright! I will try it out. Thanks @dark mantle ๐
@nocturne peak Try going half Light half Wilder to counter their team. I can't see everyone that you have but if you have a Wilder tank for the front and a mix of Light and Wilder backline that would be good. Lyca is very strong and so is Arden. I would keep Belinda where she is, and probably Lucius for the bubble.
@nocturne peak Ascend Ogi and use him! Ogi and Lucius. Lyca Tasi Belinda in back... Ulmus is also pretty strong if you want to try him instead of Ogi....
can anyone help?
Damn, it must be a joke. It worked haha - 1-2 days of struggling just got fixed with your help. Thanks mate
@woeful portal Awesome! No problem! x
Im guessing winning this fight only happens by AFK farming and upgrading? ahah
Try switching the frontline placement, and if that gets you closer try putting Belinda in the middle and Arden on the top. But yeah, unfortunately the game is a lot of farming and waiting to be able to level up. Against Brutus you need a damage heavy team that can also outlive his spin. It's helpful if you have Lucius available for the bubble but I don't think you have him. @woeful portal
Arh i see. It helped switching between Belinda and Arden - but 2-3 of the enemy team survives every time. Soo yeah, mabye you're right, I just have to wait.
But should i focus on leveling my Estrilda and Arden from the bottom? Or is it alright placing them in the Resonating crystal
@woeful portal Might be worth it to reset your level 100s and make Estrilda and Belinda your strongest
So reset Saveas and Khasos? They're Epic+ (do you recommend me resetting Ira+ too?)
Yeah, I would make Estrilda, Belinda, and either Hogan or Arden your strongest. Then slowly get the rest of your team up to 101 to get all your crystal people there as well. It's worth it to make heroes in your party over leveled when possible. The difference between epic and epic+ isn't as noticeable as level advantage.
I see. Alright I will do that asap! Thanks man! ๐ 1 more thing, should i stop following ( https://idleheroes.fandom.com/wiki/Faction_divided_tier_list ) recommendations? Because I did it from the beginning, and its pretty unclear about team formation and which heroes to go with...
If you are looking for a ranking of all the heroes, this page should hopefully help you out. Bear in mind that this is only a general idea. A tier list is never something that everyone agrees on.
Any suggestions?
Once everyone in your crystal is 101 you will be able to switch between them for fights easily. Try and have at least 2 or 3 of each faction in your crystal. @woeful portal
Alright thanks!
@formal lodge Try switching the formation of the frontline, and switch out Raine for Saveas and have him behind Brutus. See if that helps.
@dark mantle ok, ill try, been trying for a few days, maybe this time will work :)
@formal lodge Brutus Lucius front, then Saveas Belinda and Shemira(or Raine) in the back.
Thx
Find a formation that gets you the closest to winning, then just keep trying it. In this fight Lucius bubble is very important.
Hard stuck at 9-20. Any suggestions or am i stuck until i get someone past 120?
Make sure Call is on Lucious ๐ Helps with shield. ( Gotta wait a day Eunichar , for me to try your formation, no slots atm. )
oh i had it on brutus
I need some help with this one
oh wait. i dont even have call, only grace
I beat 9-20 using Lucius Estrilda Athalia Mirael Belinda
Im on 5-36 and pretty stuck
what heroes do you have
i dont have athalia ๐ฆ
Thats my best
@unkempt spire Wilder is weak against Mauler and you are underleveled so it's going to be hard running this comp
Work on getting your Relics . It helps quite a lot . If you're at the stage to complete them.
I didnt even know some are weak to others
@split sigil Try Lucius Brutus, Belinda Raine Saveas
How am I supposed to beat this lmao
when do you get the 2nd relic? i only have 1, doesnt feel like i can clear the 3rd area yet
oh yeah i can see the locations in game - derp
Any help on line up and tips on who to level 101 first
Sav
so i have a way to go seems like
@split sigil Did you see my lineup suggestion? Just keep trying until you find a formation that gets close and hope for a clutch Lucius bubble
ooh i will try that, thanks!
Any suggestions for me? ๐
@timid sand Are you stuck on your level or just looking to make a new team? I'd get Saveas or Shemira to 101 first
I have enought Hero exp to get 2 into 101
Stuck on another level now. but still looking for line up recommendations since im still pretty new at the game. And i don't really know what i should go for.
@dark mantle not seeing any arrangement keeping lucius long enough to pop his shield yet but does seem promising if i can get him a bit more buffer
Factional advantages are very important. Light is strong against Mauler, Mauler against Wilder, Wilder against Grave, Grave against Light. Based on the enemy team you will want your team to be Graveborn heavy and you can use Mauler too. I'd try Undead King and either Skreg or Ezizh in the front. Then use Shemira, Silvina, and Saveas in the back. See what happens! @timid sand
@split sigil Lucius is a very important hero and his ult is super crucial try and over level him and give him the best gear.
You are sexy
@dark mantle So this game is more about building a team thats strong agianst the specific faction instead of getting 1 base lineup you can use for everything?
And one off question, is the dark hero good?
Situational at best
@dark mantle yeah - i'm a lucius fan but he's stuck until i can ascend him at least one more time
@timid sand Yes! But you can eventually have everyone be leveled up because of the resonating crystal. So you'll be able to switch your team for different situations.... And yes he's pretty good in general but I'd suggest using him in this situation.
I think getting the 121 boosts are best. Personally
Right now I use Ezizh in my front line, should I swap him for my elite+ silvinia so I can level up all my heroes from resonating crystal past 101?
Stage 7-35 if that helps
unrelated question: am i missing an f2p path to ascending people? i still have noone above elite+
@heavy lark Yes. And if you switch him for Silvina, you can still use him in your front line if you just put him in the crystal
@split sigil unlucky. You just need 3 ___+ of the same faction and then you can take them to the next tier
ok - havent had many throwaway elites to feed to brutus or lucius or saveas yet
Yeah sometimes you just have to sacrifice heroes you know youโll pull again, in order to ascend the more rare pulls.
i have that 2nd elite+ vedan i guess, but unless i dont want golus at all that's the only fodder
@dark mantle thx a lot, didnt think that combo would be that good
@vale widget thank you. Now just to get the dust to raise her past 101. ๐
@formal lodge Glad I could help!
@heavy lark Haha no problem. Best of luck! Remember to always buy the dust for gold in the store every day.
@dark mantle I just beat the level i've been stuck on all day ๐
Yay!!!
Just finished 9-20 with this formation after a few tries. Hope it helps
It makes me feel really good when I suggest something and it works for people! (Meanwhile I'm stuck at 10-22 which isn't even a boss!) I'm currently dust-blocked and can't level my crystal guys to 121.
@dark mantle hope you pass it soon
HELP
Any lineup advice? Belinda is the problem.
@dark mantle i had 1226 dust and just spent 1200 so think im also gonna be dust blocked now
@near mist @rugged marten Help a fellow brother
@jaunty notch that's actually a good formation
Warek and Khasos deal literally 0 damage lmao
I'll let gorubin deal with this ๐๐
@jaunty notch try to make everyone 121 first, as your enemy has this lvl milestone advantage
Khasos pairs well with Saveas because he gives Saveas life leech, keeping his damage higher for longer
Yeah, everyone is maxed now so I can't lvl up neiter Thane or Estrilda. I will lvl up Shemira now to 140 so she can deal more damage and survive longer. I will also try Saveas Khasos combo once I have a space to put Saveas on the crystal thingy.
@formal lodge ok i have the same formation but you have 2 ascended people, so i'm on the right path
@split sigil update, now I have Lucius gold+ ๐
noice
@split sigil good luck
i cant ascend anyone without giving up someone i can't afford to lose (yet) - just gotta get some RNG breaking my way on pulls. e.g. 2nd lucius pull or another mauler to ascend brutus
I want to ascend brutul too, I have him only elite... Or Shemira
Any help to beat this? That Silvina is decimating my team
@sharp vortex you need to get those level 80s up in your resonating crystal.
Hard stuck
Should I use Niru+ and Isabella+ to get Shemira+ to Legendary?
I would, yes. You'll pull them again.
What would be a good lineup after sacrificing those two? I currently use them in battles.
Lineup depends on what enemies you are facing in the battle, if you care about factional advantage. Have at least 2 or 3 of every faction in your crystal if/when possible so you can switch between them when necessary. What level are you currently on?
Btw, How much money does normal people spend on this game?
Just squeaked by 6-28, now on 6-32.
Any advice?
Like i bought the level 20 offer and chapter reward
Lucius, Estrilda, Belinda combo is very strong. Maybe try that along with Shemira and Tasi, see what happens. @vivid pelican
Should I ascend to Legendary Belinda or Hogan? Or should I wait.
Awesome, will give that a go. Thanks for your help @dark mantle!
@unique vapor Lucius Estrilda Belinda! + Tasi and Arden maybe.
@timid sand I've spent $4.99 lol
@heavy lark Escend Belinda she is very strong and you will pull more Hogan, Belinda is more rare.
yea uh my lucius gets 1 shot by sav
@dark mantle who would you recommend I focus leveling then?
@heavy lark Estrilda, I think.
Also rip you sacked your Raine+ you should have saved her and used both of your Hogans to ascend Belinda. That's okay though.
Iโm on chapter 8 which is majority graveborn, is that still a viable option?
i've only spent 0.99 so far
๐ oops
Level her because she is strong, but keep 2 or 3 of each faction on your resonating crystal so you can switch between them. Get everyone to 101. @heavy lark
What faction should I spend my free elite summon on?
Grave
Any advice would help.. Or do I just need to level?
Okay time to pray for good rng
Thank you @dark mantle i appreciate the help
@fresh vortex Is it possible to reset some people and get everyone on your team to 121 or are you dust-blocked?
@heavy lark no problem!
Dust blocked atm
Eunichar should I also spend my faction scrolls on graveborn? Or wilder since I use 3 of them in my team
@fresh vortex Try switching Saveas and Belinda placement... If that gets you closer switch the frontline placement. If it's not helping you might just be underleveled currently and need to wait for dust. Could also try subbing in Athalia for either Shemira or Belinda. She is very strong.
@novel tusk Wilder!
That's why the others are leveled past 121..waitinf on dust
Alright thanks a lot for the help
@heavy lark you should upgrade silvina she is in my load-out and she completely DESTROYS heros
Hey could use some advice with my line up. Iโm new to the game! Thank you in advance!
Ogi, Hogan, Belinda, Lyca, Raine(or Thane) would be pretty strong out of the heroes that you have. But a lot of the game is situational depending on who you are facing. Factional advantage plays a big role. @glacial flower
@dark mantle thank you for the advice! Iโll try that combo out ๐ I really want to unlock Tasi! Hoping for her.
@glacial flower Tasi is very good! Good luck x
Thank you! @dark mantle
Hey peeps! Stuck at 10-32 and curious of yall see anything that i can do lineup wise or leveling wise to hopefully get to chapter 11. This is just a random formation trying to keep saveas and shemira alive as long as possible to hopefully kill everything
Maybe try Ogi in front and Nem in back instead of Saveas?
@terse bison and put all the xp into shemira or divide it fairly evenly?
All of it into Shemira
Sounds good, ill try it out. Thank you!
Is it worth it it use silvina to get grezhul to legendary?
Some ples halp me 
You need a lineup of graveborn as it does more damage to lightbears
Any tips to beat this
Tips for 8-40?
Survive
@terse bison got it 2nd try. I appreciate it
Nice! Glad to hear that hahah
i need help, cant beat this stage https://i.imgur.com/7fKjVtU.png
Send help pls
which heroes counter Silvina?
I'm stuck. 6-4 the assassin runs through me.
if this is my team, should i buy shemira from laby shop? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382095565795622914/576569414212911124/Screenshot_20190510-174010.png
Hey! Should I change my team and maybe focus more on the graveborn?
Ive been stuck on 8-32, I've tried so many combinations yet I ALWAYS lose, i would really appreciate suggestions.
Lucius, Ulmus, Fawkes, Tasi, Belinda. You'll want to go with more Lights against this team for the factional advantage. @tawdry maple
@timid stratus Make a lineup with a mix of Graveborn and Wilder for that stage. Ezizh Hogan Lucius for front (pick 2), Saveas Arden Vedan/Shemira.
@split grail Use mostly Wilders, with a bit of Mauler. Skregg Khasos front, who else do you have?
@snow coyote Use Graveborn as much as you can to make sure there are no faction bonuses, backline can be Wilder. Thoran Golus Saveas Vedan/Shemira Arden.
@versed forge That team is fine, have you checked your gear? Alternatively, you can also try Grezhul Skregg Saveas Shemira Arden.
I have a feeling I might need to change my lineup but itโs hard for me to switch from Lyca/Arden-Tasi/Nemora. Any tips?
they die too fast. so far my best team for this fight is ogi lucius saveas arden nemora, but i dont have enough DPS. i tried 2 other teams and they were far worse (Skregg Lucius Saveas Belinda Fawkes and Ogi Skregg Arden Khasos Saveas
@pale kettle Silvina? Skregg Hogan/Estrilda front, Arden Mirael Saveas.
@random sequoia Lucius Estrilda Belinda is very strong against that team.
@versed forge Lack of dps with those good heroes mean you are undergeared or lack in ascensions for the campaign stage.
only with that lineup... the 2 other lineups get wiped within 10 seconds ;x
@versed forge Can you show me the rest of your heroes?
I could only see a small part.
@vast brook You can buy Shemira or Nemora. But personally, I always buy Shemira first.
Which Faction should I pull from for my Elite Hero, I could get Brutus to Legendary if I get another E+ Mauler, but if I do Lightbringer, I could get another Lucius and bring him to Legendary, or I could pull from Graveborn/Wilders for something
thx @pale rover
@versed forge
Shemira
Ogi
Arden
Lucius
Saveas
Ideally Silvina will run to Arden, then Saveas will kill her next after his initial target. If your original team with Nemora works, just move them around until you win. Sometimes it's just RNG. If you can kill 3 of them you can usually complete that stage.
@cedar ember I'd go with Light. Lucius in my opinion is more valuable in more situations than Brutus so leveling him first would benefit you greater.
@cloud fern You can also develop your Graveborn units, if you like, but your current team is good depending on the stage you're in. Graveborn with Wilder is good for high attack with crowd control. Thoran/Brutus Lucius Shemira Arden Saveas is a good balanced team, although there won't be a team bonus.
Pls help im getting desperate
that necro healer dude is worse than silvina tbh, hes the reason i cant kill any of them on 8-32 ๐
Let's hope I get Lucius so yeet
@tawdry maple You lack in damage for that particular composition. Thoran Kaz Golus (pick two) front, Saveas Vedan Arden/Tasi back.
Got another Raine
@versed forge You have to focus all of your attacks on Niru's side. When your teammates die, he'll get stronger with every death and heal.
Which is why I was avoiding putting Lucius in, I was hoping to use a tank with more damaging capabilities. Also, Graveborn is strong against Lightbearers.
lucius is kinda weak, but that 500% shield is just enough to let me survive with arden ccing and nemora healing... take lucius out and they all die right after 1st skill usage
@zinc token Replace Nemora with Arden. How's their gear?
im incredibly nooby to this game lol
@pale kettle Estrilda (top) Hogan (bottom) in front, Saveas Belinda Raine at the back.
i think ogi lucius saveas arden nemora is how ill beat them. just need a few more level, gear or RNG
Ah, interesting. Did I choose the wrong heroes to level?
My gear is too bad to be using those heroes. Tried and died in 2 seconds
@pale kettle Always only manually level your most capable to be ascended 5 heroes, no matter who it is. The reason for this is you will be able to unlock more levels for these 5, while the rest of your heroes you can put in the Resonating Crystal for free. It will give your level 1 heroes of lower ascensions the same level as the higher ones.
i only have green and some blues for them
send help
@grand tide Hero list?
alternatively..... my Shemira is legendary, i could respec some stuff and make her level 121 ๐ค
@versed forge Shemira will help in that stage. This is what I used for Chapter 9. Not sure if you're there, but it was against Graveborn.
im on 8-32. silvina is wrecking my backline, golus is just unkillable and niru keeps refilling everyone ๐
turned out worse than before with my power and everything
I feel you dude silvina is a bully
I canโt beat 11-16 to save my life
surprisingly my saveas cant handle silvina from point blank, she either dodges or blocks many of his attacks... taking shemira to 121 and replacing saveas with her sounds good about now
@grand tide Move these around until it works, but: Niru Saveas Lucius (pick two) front, Vedan Ira Arden back.
@pale kettle You need levels. And gear.
i dont have any gold or xp
@pale rover their gears are fine.. i just rlly frustrated at this point, tried with arden, doesnt help, the 3 heroes on top dies always super quickly because of golus.. i tried full offense team but it still not enough
Any suggestions for changes? Or is this just a matter of being under leveled
That is level.. situation
@plush ermine You're using the right factions. Can you crop and show me your hero list? It's a bit too small for me to see.
@zinc token You can look at the pinned post in this channel if it helps you out too. I think your problem is ascensions.
Oof, i cant help with ascension. My pull have been really shitty...
Oh dam I guess Iโll wait around then. Also I have 10 factional scrolls what faction should I be using scrolls on based on my team rn?
My front liners get decimated by the enemy saveas almost instantly @pale rover
@novel tusk might want to change that frontline shemira to hogan, put her behind, lose tasi. 2 frontline is better than 2 dps/support that gets killed instantly..
^ shem canโt frontline unless she gets 161
@plush ermine Hogan in the spot in front of the enemy Ogi/Saveas should work, then place Khasos behind him. Other tank is Lucius, with Saveas behind him. Then Belinda in the middle back. This is for a burn team. For a team with crowd control, Hogan Lucius Saveas Arden Lyca (for haste, so Arden gets his roots up asap).
hmm ill try it out and do you think i should spend my factional scrolls on grave born to get food for shem or go wilder to get my support heroes ascended
I could use some advice with my line up
I was thinking of replacing fawkes with shemera, would this be a good idea?
@ocean crow Replace Nemora with Shemira for a general lineup. That particular lineup is weak to Graveborn though, since it's mostly comprised of Lightbearers. For that stage you're in I'd suggest Ogi Seirus Arden Khasos Shemira.
Cool, thank you!
I can make 3 legendaries including a legendary+ Angelo. Should I wait until I can get a second Belinda or lucius? What about nira? Should I legendary her?
@oak raven #classic-questions
What lol they told me to go here when I had ascension questions
@oak raven Ascension is for questions, unless you're asking for a lineup. Silly them.๐ May I see your other heroes?
That's pretty much all of them. I use nemora, lucius, Belinda, nira, hogan for my lineup
@oak raven If that's pretty much all of them and you haven't cleared Chapter 9: the only ones worth ascending to legendary in that list that will be helpful to you early on is Belinda, Arden, Lucius.. but I don't suggest eating Ogi for Arden just yet because I used him to clear 9. Thane and Estrilda are situationally good as well, but for late game.
@oak raven Niru or Ira?
Er Ira. Should I make a legendary Belinda then or is it better to wait until I have 2?
@oak raven You can make a Legendary Belinda right now with no problems. Eat the Angelos or Morvus, those are your only fodder.
Awesome ty
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any help beating 10-19
What would be my best lineup in 8-28?
Smh . . . I forgot discord formatting wont override haha
@gilded fractal hows your adventure quest going bro
@grand tide hehe im at 10-18 now how about u!!!
I just rolled khasos Epic, current team is Shamiru Saveas Nemora Ghrezul Thoran. Should I replace anything?
@languid sorrel I think this was my lineup for that level, might have been 9-40 idk
So im lacking dps? Vedan is the one bending me over
mwahaha Iโm at 10-20 now @gilded fractal
@languid sorrel
Essentially I only used athalia to distract Isabella until my lucius could shield, vedan was the last person I killed because sav is the greatest of all time
Ah, i have no problem with lucius living to put up a few shields, but at the end its vedas vs brutus and brutus already has last grasp used so
@languid sorrel the only CC you got there is fawkes tho
If I had Tasi E+ i would put her in for mirael
Iโd use Arden if he didnโt die immediately all the time
@grand tide ay nice! im gonna try to get push there later haha
u should add me so I can keep track of ur progress
I just started any tips
Tasi solved all my problems I guess LMAO
Lols
Gonna make part 3 . . . I still keep forgetting the most troublesome characters
you covered most of them ๐
Would you ascend Thane or Lucius?
@grim hatch at that point saveas will outperform shem try using him instead
Thane or Lucius for Legendary
okay
shem isnt super amazing until 161
but same line up ? just replace shemira ?
Who better to put?
any help on this?
@opal hollow Lucius for sure
Yep)
Help
Any help on 9-20?
Top line is my line up
Kill niru early
Who should I ascend
@humble sky none
Ughhh I've been stuck here for days I'm pretty sure I just need to build another arden
far beyond my capabilities
Who should I use as tank or what line up should I go for ? Replace shem with saveas ? Then ? @urban shore
@loud dagger bottom half folds almost immediately Brutus kills ogi but Shem can't build ult from being rooted the whole fight
@grim hatch I mean your tanks are probably the best you can make for now
If still not doable just lvl up
Which tank should I use ? Ogi and est ?
Nah nah nah
Is brutus better then Astrilda?
Estrilda is just DPS not a tank
Why compare two different roles ?

Okay joking aside . . . .
Estrilda is all the way support dps
Brutus goes damage tank
I'm using Belinda, Estrilda, Lucius, Thane, and Ezizh
Estrilda never meant to tank
Brutus is a great tank with his passive
Only really replaceable super late game with warek
Would you swap any of those out for Brutus?
She just look durable cuz of the ridicule taunt (damage reduction to party)
Also the energy grant from flag waving
With CC on running over enemies
Its practically support skill kit
Ugh idk what to do lol ๐
I just pulled Brutus so I'm trying to decide if I should swap him for any of those or keep my lineup
Well id say swap
For Estrilda?
Then just rotate them when having rough time on stages
Only downside is my Estrilda is Leg and Brutus is just elite
if they arent hitting level cap its not too big of a deal
I could also swap him out for Thane
What should I do with my line up who should I change
Yeah
@wintry knoll id say focus on them 5 at first
After that just ascend everyone while you progress
Next when you get a better hero on the highest ascend reset someone on your top 5 to lvl that hero up (most likely prefered
+ for that sweet lvl 160 cap)
Worth leveling I hear heโs good?
Heโs come in clutch for me so far
yes saveas carries until like ch 13
Ill recommend these heroes
Arden (root skill up to three people)
Saveas (early stage carry)
Lyca (haste on entry buff)
@wintry knoll thats saveas indeed hes practically good
Ty sm
Arden is clutch too with his root skill
yes from what ive heard he is still almost necessary for some stages in ch 22
Iโve stopped a Brutus boss once with it and killed him just before he did that annoying spin move
Would seem that way nearly wipes out 2 of my peeps in one go ๐
@urban shore a fun fact i still see him on defenses on top ranks past lvl 160 arden that is
Lol
Guessing your lineup is that top 5
Any advice for this level?
yeah its the top 5
Angelo mechanic
@timid stratus check pinned messages that might help dealing with it
Stuck for quite some time, can anyone help? Generally having difficulty in stage 8 because my current team are mostly LB
HAAAAALP
List of heroes I have

@timid stratus you only have one resonating crystal slot?
Help for 9-39
@fading cipher Can you share all of your heroes?
@hot topaz here
@timid stratus try arden instead of fawkes
Yup
@hot topaz alright
@fading cipher Lucius, Brutus, Belinda, Mirael, Saveas. Try that and see if that helps at all.
Any suggestions? Stuck lol
They deleted the pin so

I did something wrong so ill fix that first then put them here
Sorry for the inconvenience
Thanks for the hard work. ๐ 
@hot topaz Can you share all your heroes?
It's tricky because you don't have many Wilder or Mauler to choose from... Maybe try Lucius, Ogi, Numisu, Ira, Arden and see if that works at all.
Yeah I am wanting to focus on graveborn, @dark mantle got rekt instantly with the team, I guess I have to afk more
@hot topaz Factional advantage is really important, might just have to level up more
I just need the crystal to get to 121
Need help with stage 8-32. Been having troubles because the entire chapter is against Graveborns (Running a LB team).
I'm currently stuck at 9-29, my team works alright but any advice is appreciated
Umm, that's Soren.
Hmm?
im so bewildered by that image
any help? i really feel like i can pass this stage, but maybe i should just lvl
@gilded fractal Focus your attack on the bottom line, because Golus is way too tanky. He probably should and will be the last to die. Arden bottom back so he most likely roots Saveas and Isabella.
thoughts? thank you
@austere cliff idk if u did it on purpose but u posted an image of your team against Soren
@pale rover sorry late response!! thanks ill try it :)
If you had problems with certain stages please check this out just ping me when i missed out a hero so we can add them to the guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11HSed1P1hD6T2yOe0UdpqOn327AvOBeiuUqoI-KLlaA/edit?usp=drivesdk
@pale rover i believe your advise was sound, my saveas just gets shredded though bc he has pretty bad def/hp based armor : [ so ill wait to improve that. thanks !
@loud dagger Nice guide! This will be useful to refer to, thank you!
Golus is pretty annoying
@pale rover i just ended being scolded by space-sama before i finalized that
golus strategy is survive the other 4 units and then gang up on him ;P

@gilded fractal You can do it. Saveas in front needs great gear and levels for sure, but you can do it eventually.โบ๏ธ
@loud dagger Lmao I asked him when I pinned because I don't want to get scolded. 
@pale rover im trying estrilda replacing belinda and in front of sav on the bottom, im gonna see how that will go!
Any suggestions. Working in getting shem to 161 currwntly
@gilded fractal Oh good choice, that might work out! Let me know how it goes.
Also what's a good silvana counter
@glad oyster
Try
Arden lucius
Brutus shemira
Saveas
Test it out
@pale rover i think its my most promising option, but still not quite enough :[ gonna keep trying tho
@willow plaza Level your underlevelled units. You can try Ogi Thoran Arden Saveas and Ira for a team bonus.
Silvina jumps on lowest armor mage
any advice? also not sure who would be a good team going forward. been kind of winging it
is Lucius any good at all?
Should I use two Ardenโs to make Seirius legendary? Anyone have any team comp ideas?
Help?
@zinc token try swapping lucius and hogan position
Also take shemira and tasi off the resonating crystal and put lucius and arden instead so your all of your heroes can reach level 120
Reset golus and use the resource to level up your main heroes instead
@pale kettle i don't recommend that. Arden is a powerful cc
@last granite I was thinking since I had Tasi I wouldnโt use him really
@pale kettle both are really great cc tbh. But a lot of people keep arden because on of the 3 roots ability when he's high level
I use Tasi with Arden and Lyca.
Alternatively, you'll graduate to Tasi Lyca Nemora but that's after Chapter 20.
Yeah thats a good tip . . . Place the highest ascending frame on crystal to adjust the lvl cap
Besides arden is good
Since hes one of the so called trinity of wilders
Okay
I need help)
Iโm running lucious/seirius/saveas/task/Belinda. Think thatโs my best set up?
A silvina
@last granite i just realised i only have 4 E+ .....
Legendary Belinda, elite+ serous, or elite lucious. Who should I make 101 next?
@opal hollow might as well use athalia rather than golus, for more bonus
@opal hollow swap lucius and fawkes with other rare+ heroes on resonating crystal. You're limiting your other heroes to just level 100 when they can be level 120
Or elite tasi or elite+ Arden?
@zinc token oh right, i didnt see that either. It thought lucius is e+
@pale kettle L+ arden is needed, until you reach higher than 160
I canโt get enough good units to get anyoneโs rarity up ๐ญ
@last granite is ferael better than silvina in world 7
@zinc token in my own opinion, until 141, silvina is better
who should I pick in labyrint first hero to help progress in my team ty thanks for the feedback
Im using (Legendary Lucius,Legendary Vedan,Elite+ Belinda, Elite Shemira and Brutus) is this a good lineup?
Any team tips? Or am I just udnerleveled? Kaz ruins me every time
@pale kettle I think you should have faction buff
@vale bobcat try to switch your arden to khasos..
https://gyazo.com/67883cc36e0bcca1efc25f0e2e356167 so what should i do with this im stuck at 6-28
seveas over raine?
@minor totem labyrinth is all about relics. You can choose anyone tbh so long you got 2 tanks, dps and maybe cc if needed
@last granite sorry ,what I mean is I will buy hero using labyrint coin..shemira khasos nemora or estrilda
@safe path u should try a team that has a faction bonus
@minor totem oooh okay. According to the people either nemora or shemira
its hard to get a faction bonus when i have nemora lucius shemira and ezizh
@last granite I see.. maybe I should save my coin for the meantime. after I got copy of shemira or nemora
@safe path dude u should try a full lightbringer team.. im pretty sure that u can beat that stage
u beat it with full lightbringer?
@minor totem thanks for the help. Got me to the boss. Mostly rng or more exp farming?
@vale bobcat nice comgrats bro
lots of hero in this game are OP.. but the most OP is the faction bonus..
Help?
Well faction bonus is good, but still has a limit
@pine goblet try to have a team that has a faction bonus for example 3light 2maulers..or 4maulers etc
Help for 8-32?
I always used to have Mirael Brutus Savaes water guy and Tasi but i came to a point where i cant win no more
@pale trout the good thing in faction bonus is the stats u have the more additional bonus stats u get
@pine goblet try front grezhul hogan (put hogan against golus. Back belinda saveas ezizh. See who silvina attacks first
@minor totem losing with 2light 3mauler
Any suggestions?
@pine goblet try full light
Im trying this but its still not working out for me well, do u guys think its from the level difference?
Or is it because im facing legendary+ while i only have 1 legendary
@pale kettle who did silvina attacks first? Is tasi able to use her ultimate?
@last granite belinda is getting hit first
@pine goblet belinda is your one of your dps so protect her we must. You're gonna need a bait. I know saveas is great but try swapping him with arden. Hopefully by the time arden dies everyone is able to use their ultimate
@cedar hill try tasi and ira together to switch with mireal and vedan
Help for 9-20?
Unsure if I'd want to ascent estrilda to leg.. I could do hogan but I feel he drops off and I kind of just want to wait for some double of fawkes...
Any suggestions lmao
@vapid pond yo cmere post your hero list lets see what we can do
Alice, help
and hey again oof
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@hot topaz i noticed that tasi never stuns anyone at the beginning of this game and she always gets one shot once vedan goes bats mode
@hot topaz try to lvl your saveas more so he can function as your carry. i really feel for you, ch 9 is hell and i have alot of the same units you do haha
@hot topaz why are you not ascending shem to leg +?
@last granite did worse with arden. Also my saveas does a better dps job than belinda.
@ocean hill nah, I have to raise all my team above 120
I made someone else legendary to fill the 5 slots
@pine goblet how close are you to win with the saveas belinda ezizh comp?
the only good ones are raine, beli, nemo and lucius
@vapid pond try lucius/estrilda (or brutus) fronline, belinda/raine(or nemora)/arden backline
@hot topaz you can cart her for 20 diamond thou get all your resouces to level one of the current diamonds to 120 instead???
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