Perfect. Thanks!
#lineup-help
shell smelt
west gyro
Is Arden really good?
craggy wadi
Arden can help early on. Arden/Nemora are easy to get and a good cc combo. Later Tasi is better.
nova crater
@pale rover i tried the lineup and it gets rekt super fast.
pale rover
@nova crater That may mean a lack of ascensions and gear.
nova crater
So afk?
west gyro
If I work up me Arden what do I replace it with?
olive thorn
👐
pale rover
@west gyro Replace Ira eventually with a different dps hero (wilder/lightbearer if you want a bonus) and Fawkes you can alternate with Arden.
craggy wadi
@nova crater First lineup I'd try is hogan top, lucius bot, then back row from top to bottom: Lyca, Fawkes, Belinda.
pale rover
@olive thorn Hi Vlab!👋🏻
olive thorn
hey 👋
shell smelt
hmmm @pale rover I have enough to bring one of Saveas, Khasos, or Skreg up to Legendary. Should I save them as fodder? Or bring one of them up
olive thorn
don't food one of them
pale rover
@shell smelt Save and wait for fodder.
olive thorn
2 good late heroes and the best dps early hero
craggy wadi
When you get a Silvanas enemy team, you need to build differently unless you overlevel or else she tears through your back line. I usually use a Nemora with all my best int gear to survive a bit.
nova crater
@craggy wadi I will gift you my firstborn child. You're a friggin god
craggy wadi
Fawkes is actually great for Silvanas because you can still have a great cc without an int cast that Silvanas will wreck.
pale rover
I just use a bait mage for Silvina stages and have her run into Brutus/Saveas.
nova crater
I had the right units just the wrong formation
outer terrace
Should I take Saveas all the way to 141 before leveling anybody else up? Or should I spread out the levels a bit.
craggy wadi
You killed it? @nova crater ? Thought you could with your units.
swift pawn
First big hurdle folks, 9-20! I've been using lucius/estrilda front, Lyca belinda Arden back. Any advice on how to get myself through this one?
pine glen
Any advice?
nova crater
@craggy wadi I beat it without hesitation like no one even came near death.
west gyro
My comp got immediately torn down, didn’t even stand a chance ;-;
fierce kayak
Is this the best lineup I can have now? Or should reset Shemira and pump Saveas, and Arden replace Shemira?
craggy wadi
@outer terrace Saveas will be your carry for a while with your lineup. Try to legend+ him without using any good fodder.
west gyro
How can I stop kaz for completely destroying my team?
craggy wadi
@pine glen You are going to lose 2-3 units too quickly. Silvanas will jump on Arden and kill, then will ult a damaged Nemora and kill. The enemy team is low threat other than Silvanas. Try this: Lucius and Saveas front line, the from top to bottom Arden (with your best int gear), Raine and Lyca. No synergy but synergy in team abilities. You don't quite have the heroes to have type synergy that'll kill.
pine glen
@craggy wadi Somehow it got waaaaaay worse. It might just be lack of good gear on Raine
pale rover
@pine glen Try Seirus Ogi Arden Shemira Saveas?
@swift pawn What does 9-20 look like?
wraith bloom
I did 9-20 and 9-24 with this comp after 50-60 try but it doesn't work for 9-28. Any suggestions pls ?
pale rover
@fierce kayak Replace Lucius with Grezhul for full faction bonus.
wraith bloom
Here are my heroes
craggy wadi
@pine glen Hmm. Try Lucius top, Ezizh bot, then Nemora, Lyca, Saveas. See if Nemora survives to ult. Try a few times. If she doesn't, then replace her with Belinda (and put best gear on her) then go Lucius, Ezizh, then Belinda, Raine and Saveas. Always put best gear on heroes you are using.
cedar ember
Silvina kills everything
pale rover
@wraith bloom Estrilda in front of Ogi to knock him down and reach the backline, Thoran.. Arden Saveas Khasos. No team bonus, but try it?
fierce kayak
@pale rover tks. Just not sure if Grezhul is decent at my level. Will try it out
pine glen
@craggy wadi I went from clearing maybe 2 with my initial set up to all of them being totally wiped with the enemy near full. Again, might just be gear for the respective heros. I have the best available gear possible.
swift pawn
@pale rover Here is the dreaded 9-20
pallid rune
what faction should i go for with specific scrolls? thinking light to get enough fodder to upgrade saveus
pale rover
@pallid rune Saveas is Mauler faction.
@swift pawn Sorry kindly send me your hero list too, it got buried.
pallid rune
yeah thats what i meant, it just looks like sunlight to me
wraith bloom
@pale rover lol Estrilda just got 2-shot and Ogi doesn't move at all, he is just stun
swift pawn
heavy lark
Stuck at 6-36 pls help
vale kraken
Some pleb: asks for lineup
Same pleb: LOL the lineup sucks
boreal hull
How do I pass this lvl 😭
pale rover
@wraith bloom That may mean lack of levels. 121 unlocks a new skill compared to 120. Your heroes have decent ascensions. How are their gear? You could alternatively try Lucius instead of Estrilda, if he can last and hold.
ruby gazelle
is vedan or silvina better to ascend?
pale rover
@pallid rune You can do Wilders, they have a decent pool of heroes and you have a good number of them. Also ask in #classic-questions they may have more opinions to help you decide too
wraith bloom
@pale rover yeah my heroes have decent ascensions but I don't have enough dust to level up them all 121, It's sooo long, my gear is mainly full Epic/Epic+ with 2 to 4 stars :/ I don't find Leg stuff very often
pale rover
@swift pawn Oh that horrid stage. Can you try out Lucius Brutus Lyca Arden Saveas? No bonus, but see if it can work.
swift pawn
I will try that out, thank you!
pale rover
@heavy lark There's a thread pinned in this channel for late chapter 6 team building, it may help you.
@boreal hull Try Brutus Lucius/Skregg (team bonus) Belinda Saveas Arden.
boreal hull
ooooffff almost broke through
pale rover
@ruby gazelle Hi, that's actually dependent on who you enjoy using more. They're both single target dps, Silvina targets the backline for assassination and Vedan has a bat form life steal/invuln/heal ult. You can also ask in #classic-questions
@boreal hull If you can kill 3-4 you can do that stage. Just keep RNG-ing.
boreal hull
ight thanks ^-^
split bolt
Any tips?
swift pawn
@pale rover the lineup you gave me feels much closer, thank you. I'm pretty sure I just need to grind out a few more levels.
pale rover
@swift pawn Awesome to hear! Glad it's working out.
@split bolt Seems like an okay lineup as is. You can try subbing in Hogan to knock down Brutus in case Lucius dies before he can shield, since Hogan is further ascended.
split bolt
@pale rover ok will try. And who should i put the shield relic on? Currently on lucius
pale rover
@split bolt Brutus, for me.
split bolt
@pale rover ok will try thanks!
silent yoke
hallow dawn
It won’t let me post up a screen shot because it’s over 8mb
pale rover
@silent yoke Thoran Skregg/Grezhul (team bonus) Saveas Shemira Arden. You can actually also use Golus to hold Brutus off, but not sure if he can handle it at purple. Move those units around until you can make it work.
pale rover
@hallow dawn You'll need another tank pull, but you can try:
Nemora/Arden/Tasi (crowd control)
Hogan (tank)
Belinda (damage dealer, aoe)
Vedan/Silvina (off tank)
Saveas (damage dealer, single target)
No team bonus, though.
hallow dawn
Thank you!
void dock
@pale rover which one i should kept ? I am on chapter 16 right now
pale rover
@void dock Shemira Ferael Grezhul and Thoran all work well together. I wouldn't eat Isabella either because she's mythic tier, but I don't use her.
void dock
Thx @pale rover , i think i will wait for another fodder then...
ancient frost
Anything I should change?
still ingot
What should I do to the lineup that can make it better and I don’t need help on defeating that lvl. I will upgrade if needed
@ me please
flint dagger
Any suggestions or should I just keep leveling?
still ingot
Any suggestions? I will upgrade if needed
winter token
What is my best purchase from the shop? I could get nemora and up her right to legendary? Or Shem for new comp and khasos leg also
supple ruin
Is nemora worth putting in my line up? Who should I remove for her
wintry atlas
hi i've been stuck on this for a few days, anything i can do to try and pass or just level?
@supple ruin athalia needs copies of herself to ascend so maybe consider replacing her : )
ivory swan
Stuck on this stage for Peaks of time, even lowering their health for me to finish off with wilders is hard.
wintry atlas
I've been stuck on that too and what i've decided to do is wait until i have more of my own wilders lol. probably not the way to go though
ivory swan
Lol I've been wanting that artifact but TBH it doesn't seem like an artifact I'm going to get for awhile xD
wintry atlas
yeah it sucks if you don't have many wilders : ( but it'll come eventually !
ivory swan
Hopefully, xP progress has been super slow ever since I got Nemora legend.
outer rapids
Looking to replace Vedan soon but I have a few options and i'm not really sure what to do, tempting me right now would be building Brutus to go with Lucius, other options I'm seeing would possibly be Arden or Saveas, anybody can help?
wintry atlas
All three of those have different roles, so it depends. Arden is CC, and even though he's only legendary he's still pretty good for awhile. Saveas is someone you overlevel and he does damage, but you'll wanna replace him around chapter 15-16. Brutus is generally seen as one of the best units in this game but he's pretty rare which makes him hard to ascend
just go with what u think is best : ) work with what u have
outer rapids
my lineup looks like this for reference
unique vapor
@outer rapids brutus lucius saveas arden lyca
outer rapids
I just feel like Vedan so far is starting to have trouble following up and he's falling quite easily
gusty lynx
half moth
good luck lol.. I just pass it awhile ago after a week + of afk
if u can kill off vedan u have a chance
unique vapor
@gusty lynx put all your levels into saveas
try changing lucius for belinda and frontline saveas maybe his regen can help him tank
i know someone who passed with frontline sav
sharp meadow
I tried using sav as tank for 9-20 but it didnt go well lol
unique vapor
what level and ascension
outer tinsel
What faction should i use or aim to use my x10 scrolls on?
sharp meadow
L+ 121, well he lasted a lil longer than lucius in front but he died and there were no one with high dps. It was hard for me without sav
unique vapor
put sav top front and u need some cc to support him, arden nemora tasi etc
pale kettle
Any advice? Stuck on 9-20
ivory swan
Any idea what I should do for this stage?
I could maybe reset everyone an get everybody at least 121+ skill, but it might not help an it'll be a waste of gems
pale kettle
100 gems not that much
unique vapor
@pale kettle try arden lyca nemora back, shem brutus front and pray for some rng
pale kettle
Wow it's almost working, progress
sharp meadow
I used this to beat 9-20 somehow
pale kettle
Stuck on 9 12 any suggestions
@sharp meadow I don't have khasos + you probably had some legendary gear in there
sharp meadow
Only leg weapon for brutus beside that my gears were all elite and a few elite+
slow flower
sharp meadow
@pale kettle well i’d say replace silvina for fawkes and place shem up top cuz u want to kill niru asap
slow flower
Should I keep waiting for another lucius or legendary one of these.
grand tide
pretty please help I’m getting frustrated
gilded fractal
@grand tide OOF i assume youve tried arden instead of mirael and you've tried putting saveas infront of niru?
grand tide
yeah i can’t kill a single one of them
mental perch
stuck on 9-20 it’s so hard help
grand tide
I’ve pretty much tried to substitute everyone out for someone else and I still get clapped
gilded fractal
yeah, outside of my expertise :[ i hope a pro can help u @grand tide
pale kettle
@sharp meadow killing niru first never works out for me things start dying and he just heals anyways
grand tide
alice what level are you on
@mental perch try focusing ur damage on the bat boy that’s how I won pretty much
mental perch
you just won rn?
grand tide
I’ve already beat 9-20
gilded fractal
9-28, pretty sure i just gotta settle and level given the units i have. not gonna sweat it after the first few tries i give it every day : p
mental perch
kk i’ll try
grand tide
@gilded fractal is that the one with silvina
gilded fractal
so far my best run had belinda with lowest armor swapped places with sav. killed all but isa and ira. so gonna keep leveling til i get them lol
bc i dont think i have a better setup so shug
grand tide
I was stuck on that one all day, I used fawkes to snatch up Isabella and the celestial chick to occupy bow gal until Lucius could get his shield up and sav did the rest
gilded fractal
ill try. lucius doesnt survive long enough to pop shields tho in front of ogi haha
grand tide
yeah ^^ I had sav in front of ogi because he’s an immortal beast
gilded fractal
hmm can u give me your exact lineup formation?? : O ill try it with bel instead of miriel
grand tide
for that level this is what I did
lyric jackal
gilded fractal
:[] dunno if i can replace athalia haha
grand tide
yeah :( shoot
lyric jackal
Any tips for my lineup?
gilded fractal
@grand tide I JUST WANTED TO SAY i beat it haha i realized arden kept being stunned before he could vine so i moved him and then won
i feel so dumb lolol
cerulean shore
@lyric jackal i think it's decent for the time being, you use 4 cc
but its always depends on enemy, wielder weak agains mauler and lightbearer weak agains graveborn, but the damage dealer is lightbearer, so mauler might not be that hard
lyric jackal
Okay thanks, i will get another tank and dps, but i'm pretty unlucky on summons ):
slow flower
pls help someone reeeeee
https://i.imgur.com/vXpvQQz.png should i wait for another lucius or make one of the other E+ i have legendary?
light elm
Ascend someone you are sure to get to legend+
slow flower
i see, in that case i should wait to do anything
grand tide
@gilded fractal yayay good job im very proud
gilded fractal
@grand tide thank u uwu u gave me the Luck
grand tide
tell me if you can beat the other bosses and then give me your guidance
im going to bed so I’ll wake up to your victories 🥳 @gilded fractal gn
cedar ember
light elm
Can't saveas burst niru?
toxic garnet
Should I ascend Estrilda here? She's a lot more rare than Hogan or Mirael and ascending her would allow me to put her in play with 2 other LBs for the allied bonus.
cedar ember
Saveas can but everyone dies to Silvina, and I got lucky twice by killimg Niru @light elm
light elm
@cedar ember try a tanker unit than belinda up front
@toxic garnet she is more useful than mirael or hogan, but because she is so rare getting 2 more copies of her is very hard too
cedar ember
Belinda's to bait Silvina so she'll die first, she's the only unit I get denolished by
light elm
She likely jumps arden if belinda isn't there, if you have a lucius and if he can get his ult off, silvina will probably not do much
cedar ember
I made sure she jumps Belinda, everyone gets killed before they can get half an ult off besides maybe Saveas
cold pasture
Any ideas for 9-20 with this?
light elm
If shemira can't ult she's useless, try lucius or hogan to disrupt silvina
@cold pasture saveas will probably serve you a lot better than shemira if you get him some levels
white badger
cold pasture
I can’t is the problem
white badger
Can you guys help out?
cold pasture
I never get any maulers to use as fodder
muted stream
Any suggestions?
cedar ember
@light elm I made it with this
loud minnow
Any help? Its 9-40
outer terrace
I’m stuck at 9-38, any tips for that?
ionic jackal
@loud minnow that's already a good lineup you just need some rng and try to change formation, maybe lyca front top Lucius bottom , make sure Arden root enemy Arden or switch to nemora and nemora charms enemy Arden etc
@outer terrace got tasi or nemora?
outer terrace
I have elite nemora
ionic jackal
@outer terrace try saveas Brutus lyca nemora Arden, make sure enemy Arden get cc'd by your Arden or nemora
noble abyss
How. Am I not stuck
ionic jackal
@outer terrace that's how I did it
Maybe bcs of tasi but worth to try nemora
@noble abyss you shouldn't stuck most likely lol, just try to focus niru first
outer terrace
Saveas and Brutus in the front @ionic jackal ?
noble abyss
I'm not stuck @ionic jackal
ionic jackal
@outer terrace I put lyca front top, she gets cc and died fast
But her job is to only haste lol
pale kettle
Finally got Tasi, help me build a team around her
ionic jackal
@pale kettle use tasi instead of arden, you can use both Arden and tasi if you have lyca
pale kettle
Alright. What would you pick for the rest of the team, just my highest levels?
ionic jackal
Yeah, just keep your dps high level + high ascension
Or you can build saveas for mauler
Nothing's wrong with a leg saveas
muted stream
Should i? Chap 14 now. Hogan is out of use right?
loud minnow
ionic jackal
Pinned message by accident lol
loud minnow
YESS BOIIII
outer terrace
@ionic jackal Your strategy worked after a few tries, thank you!
muted stream
My brutus and shem is already mythic @ionic jackal. Can mythic bel so what do you think?
loud minnow
Finally chapter 9 is done
ionic jackal
Ahh well if you have mythic Shem then I think mythic either Belinda or Raine won't make a huge difference (if you using Wilder as supports)
ionic jackal
@muted stream then I feel like either mythic Belinda or Raine won't make such a huge difference since you will not likely to use them if you have shemira and Wilder supports, so feel free to do what you want
muted stream
Screw it im doing it for the 3v3 arena
loud minnow
Who should i ascend to leg? Tasi, shem or arden. Don't worry, i have 2 level 1 arden.
ionic jackal
Try to use lyca instead of athalia tho, haste is good
muted stream
I dont even have a single copy of lyca. Want her so bad 
lean verge
All of those are pretty good imo.
ionic jackal
@loud minnow I would try to get one more elite+ fodders so your Arden can get to leg+ so you can break the lvl 140 cap easily, and Arden is too usefull at lvl 141
So you don't have to pull 2 more tasi or nemora for a leg+ heroes
lean verge
Arden has beast CC til 160. Then he falls off. Lyca has some good dps. And Nemora has some nice heals.
loud minnow
@ionic jackal okie dokie.
loud minnow
@ionic jackal no. But after completing chapter 9,i got estrilda
low wren
Stuck on 10-28 help pls
ionic jackal
If you have one I will show you a secret to completing chapter 10 easily :v
low wren
loud minnow
@ionic jackal nice man. I was lacking tanks in the front but now i got luc and estrilda. So no worries.
hazy creek
Hi. Can anyone help me with my team comp for 9-20
ionic jackal
@low wren I don't think I can be much help with your heroes, focus on getting someone to 141 first, also you can use lyca instead of Lucius or thane for her haste
low wren
@ionic jackal I wish i had Tasi lol.Thanks btw
outer terrace
Ok how tf do I beat a Mythic Saveas?!? 10-4
ionic jackal
@hazy creek that's a good formation already, I would try to put athalia in mid so nemora can't pull off her charm early,
Definitely need some rng
@hazy creek have you already got the Brutus union buff? The life leech ones
@outer terrace my leg+ lvl 141 saveas is enough to duel enemy saveas throughout chapter 10, with 3 leg gears, if you can cc him hard it would be easy
muted stream
@outer terrace you need some cc. Put an arden tasi or nem in
oak gate
Just lvl up or is there a secret strat ?
ionic jackal
@outer terrace or use the same formation as last one, use nemora to charm saveas
proven pendant
Any tips?
ionic jackal
@oak gate level up saveas to 141 first should be a priority
muted stream
Btw you will see ascensed sav and Golus soon @outer terrace
ionic jackal
@proven pendant got lyca?
proven pendant
Nope
muted stream
Lyca is the key to every problem
ionic jackal
I seriously asked that Everytime someone stuck and have nemora/Arden/tasi lmao
proven pendant
I tried to combined pairs of them, but silvina kills one of them before they can do anything
muted stream
Wilder trio op af
ionic jackal
@proven pendant try to use nemora Arden tasi, put tasi near saveas, so tasi teleports and saveas can focus silvina, use golus or Hogan as a tank depending who's survives longest
pale kettle
help on 8-32?😄
muted stream
Oh yeah silv is gonna be a big problem for wilder backline
hazy creek
@ionic jackal thanks for the tips. Decided to swap nemora with athalia and managed to defeat them easily 😂
shut raven
Lyca or serius to legendary?
late gyro
Lyca imo
muted stream
Lyca imo
shut raven
Already have Arden leg+
ionic jackal
Alright lyca
muted stream
How can you write without waiting 30s @ionic jackal
pale kettle
ionic jackal
proven pendant
@ionic jackal worked second try. Thanks!!
muted stream
What? I saw that
shut raven
so Lyca aye
muted stream
Wait 30s like everybody else
ionic jackal
muted stream
Seriously just make it 15. 30 is too long imo
ionic jackal
Ahh for that I can't do that, I don't have the power
muted stream
Damn
ionic jackal
@pale kettle what Wilders do you have?
pale kettle
oOf uh @ionic jackal sorry for late reply
narrow thicket
Would Ulmus be better then Hogan in this setup for the faction bonus?
I feel like the CC from Hogan is just better but I never use ulmus so idk
Or maybe even kaz? The team seems pretty low dmg in total so she might survive long enough to make it worth
fallow drum
Which hero should I work on now?
muted cairn
@narrow thicket wrong image lmao 1 sec mb
narrow thicket
@fallow drum Hogan. He stays good for an extended period of time. Tasi after him
fallow drum
Thanks @narrow thicket , I need 1 more hero to be 60, which do you suggest?
narrow thicket
@fallow drum sav. Get him to e/e+ asap
ionic jackal
@pale kettle oh well doesn't change much with those, make sure to reset shemira and level up other elite+ hero so they can get to lvl 101+
narrow thicket
At that point he is a good unit to use. Also fairly easy to get to L and L+. He is one of the higher dmg units early on
thick sphinx
Having a lot of trouble with this stage😭. Been here for 3 days. Any tips on lineup?
9-20 btw
mint bay
Brutus to 141 or lyca/tasi to 121 first?
unique vapor
arden instead of belinda and maybe nemora too
river finch
any suggestions?
river finch
Wishing I had my boy julius
muted cairn
@river finch keep Saveas 20-40 levels above the rest
pale kettle
@ionic jackal yeah I plan to just don't know who
river finch
save as should be my strong guy? what about brutus boy
ionic jackal
@pale kettle It's important to break the lvl 100 cap first with whatever you got, so your crystal level will pass 100 too
muted cairn
@river finch Saveas first, then Brutus, then Shemira if you can get her to E+
river finch
ok thank you very much
clever bison
gilded ravine
who should I lvl up? who to focus on? should I restart someone?
narrow thicket
Man every time I face them it triggers me how strong fawkes and tasi are at pvp
pale kettle
Help, Am I lvling up good? Should I change anyone?
muted cairn
@pale kettle I'd use Saveas instead of Ira
pale kettle
Ty
muted cairn
nps
kind verge
Is Ulmus any good?
white badger
muted cairn
@kind verge #classic-questions not rly imo
white badger
Help!
muted cairn
way too underleveld @ HS (cant @ u)
white badger
I need to level em up??? More
muted cairn
yeah, a lot more
white badger
How much? Upto which should i get em up
muted cairn
100 ideally, since that's the cap for Elite heroes
noble abyss
Stuck Please help
left moat
Do I have better options for my lineup?
muted cairn
@left moat dont put Brutus against a Brutus, and does your Raine survive long enough to Ult?
left moat
Uhh, sometimes
muted cairn
I'd switch the Raine for Shemira and the Belinda for Ezizh cus spinny boi Brutus will ruin you
left moat
Okay
surreal flame
Yo can someone dm me i need some personal tips for my current progression in the game
zinc token
Im guessing i need to afk and lvl up my heroes?
fallow drum
Any suggestion?
muted cairn
@fallow drum level up more
eternal ferry
Any help ? That niru is a nightmare
gleaming olive
zinc token
I am stuck there too 
ionic jackal
@gleaming olive use faction bonus, ex. 3 lightbearer 2 Wilder, when you got Belinda on your daily login rewards you should use her, put nemora bottom and try her to charm Brutus first, put your best dps on top
muted stream
@ionic jackal hey just got my lyca only elite though is she viable yet or do i need to nake her E+
eternal ferry
Oof i'm still stuck hard on 8-20
gilded ravine
what should I do?
eternal ferry
Summon lmao
eternal ferry
@ionic jackal same lmao, this is the whales power
zinc token
Whale power.. give me that power, sadly my credit card will cry from that.. lul give me the brutus pack
ionic jackal
@zinc token estrilda is an off tank that good to use on high level while khasos is a support/dps that works well on a mauler team
zinc token
Can you give me tips on my lineup.. i really hate khasos lmao.. i want brutus so bad qq
muted stream
Your team is too underleveled just like mine
eternal ferry
Nemora instead of saveas, ogi frontline
muted stream
Look at the power difference. This would takes weeks
eternal ferry
Oof
muted stream
I pushed too far
tired agate
Is this even possible
eternal ferry
I'm stuck on a lvl, there's not even big lvl difference, just an invicible niru
muted stream
You should get rid of arden and replace with tasi if you have one @tired agate
tired agate
I would, if I had one..
muted cairn
@tired agate that Saveas will destroy your Brutus, I doubt it
muted stream
Arden sucks when there is an enemy silv
vast wren
Use light and wilder combo @tired agate
muted stream
Light and wilder= no brutus
eternal ferry
Any thoughts ?
vast wren
@muted stream switch to an all light formation and tinker
tired agate
and saveas too
muted stream
His lightbearer are all elite
zinc token
Oh my god that actually helped me a lot lmao.. brutus got a tiny hp left before he beat my shemira..
muted stream
Ohhhh wait sr
But switching you will lose sav and brutus which i think is two of the best heros early game @vast wren
vast wren
You don’t always need brutus and sav. For some stages you need to switch them out just to get past it. It depends on your tanks though. If you have fawkes and lucius they’ll be key with your belinda taking Saveas’s spot. Or do 4 light and 1 mauler will saveas
tired agate
best comp against wrizz?
vast wren
All your legs minus arden
muted stream
^
fervent coyote
try arms too
zinc token
@eternal ferry holy shit thanks xD i got pass that lvl..
eternal ferry
Hehe np, faction bonus is always helpfull
cerulean shore
@tired agate I think it's light bearer
In you team it might consist like this, estrillda Lucius Belinda thoran saveas
vast wren
@eternal ferry try putting your wilder tank up top with the wilder archer behind him. Then put your 3 lightbearers on bottom.
eternal ferry
Wtf it went so easily, thx lmao
meager dune
What kind of lineup did u guys use early on? I'm on 4-36 can't pass it 🤔🤔🤔😭
vast wren
No problem. Wilder beats undead
zinc token
Whats the faction beats which faction rotation by the way?
dull basalt
@zinc token Easy way to remember is the symbols are in order on the hero filter.
vast wren
When you are in the combat screen, look for the exclamation mark button on the bottom left. It displays the faction vs faction chart for you.
marble talon
Your lineup is good, just levels/positioning
muted cairn
@meager dune need levels
marble talon
Ideally you want to ascend saveas
meager dune
Ah thnx. Yeah trying to get him up there no luck yet
fallow drum
Stuck on 5-40, any suggestions for improvement?
hot bear
Can u elite your saveas? ^
fallow drum
I'd have to spend 4,800 hero coins, not sure if it is worth it in the long run @hot bear
muted cairn
yes @fallow drum
hot bear
It is, you get these anyway n the game didnt yet reach the "save everything" point like IH
Just go yolo for a couple months untill they introduce real events
fallow drum
Thanks, should I then replace Ira with Savaes? I'd lose the hp and def bonus
hot bear
Maybe hogan? Idk either. This 5 slot team makes comps so hard to think through
meager dune
So when u guys use a carry. How many levels is it usually higher than the others?
pseudo bear
Help with 12-40 pls
hot bear
Depends where u at. U prolly wanna take it to your next wall lvl, like 61 earlygame, then slowly lvling the others
Too much supporting @pseudo bear
meager dune
I'm still super early game. I'm just stuck hahaha 4-36
hot bear
So whats ur average hero lvl?
signal canopy
hot bear
Some ppl use 3 supports, some 0.. You need a healer guys, one, max 2 supports, its an rpg game. Idealy you have 1 tank, 1 offtank dps, 1 glasscannon assassin, 1 mage n 1 support
pale kettle
is brutus that bad ? what ive seen on unofficial tierlist at afkarena website brutus is an +S hero
surreal mist
Should i promote Raine or Estrilda to legendary?
hot bear
Brutus is opie opie with a good sustain. And whoever u prefer or performs better for u @surreal mist ,both are kinda mid tier heroes
flat condor
Personally, I think Estrilda has more use than raine.
surreal mist
Raine sounds pretty strong ability wise. Estrilda seems kinda meh, but i have been wrong before.
muted stream
Raine need a proper teamcomp to shine est can be used as a backline sp dps not a tank
surreal mist
Hm, i see. Maybe i should wait until i actually need to promote them. Not using them at all.
muted stream
She can tank early stages tho
vast wren
@fallow drum put hogan up top, estrilda bottom tank, take out the wilder tank and take out shimera and change her for arden
peak stratus
Can anyone help plz
hot bear
Focus on an aura at that point ^
peak stratus
Aura?
vast wren
@pseudo bear put estrilda top tank brutus bottom tank. In the back should be thane top, lucius/belinda mid, saveas bottom
peak stratus
Kaz is legit onezhotting all my heros
muted cairn
since she's higher leveled she will do
hot bear
The thing that gives you hp n atk %, up top left corner
vast wren
@peak stratus switch brutus and saveas to the bottom, change arden for the undead little girl
If ezizh dies too fast switch him for shimeera
muted cairn
- Saveas will insantly die
- Arden's vines will help more than Isabella
prime narwhal
I’ve been stuck here for the longest time, anything I can do better?
muted cairn
@prime narwhal can try switching Raine for Lyca and Belinda for Lucius
peak stratus
Kaz is lvl 180, why is this game so damn unbalanced ?!?!??!
heady gate
Please advise, thanks.
still oar
@prime narwhal try use
Lyca Bru
Healer Arden sav
Try to get everyone to 121
peak stratus
I can't even get kaz below 80% health
pseudo bear
@vast wren Got rekt by graveborn advantage dmg
peak stratus
What i do?
muted cairn
@pale kettle honestly you should win that
still oar
@pale kettle warek Bru
Sil nem sav
pale kettle
i know im just asking if there is a way to make my team better , i can win that ii know but im stuck at labyrnith for instance , i dont see people play alot of namera for a weird reason
muted cairn
Leveling more
muted cairn
Nemora is in my main lineup, her charm/heals can save a lot
coral tundra
I just started like 2 days ago, and I plan on replacing fawkes with shemira when I get her, but should I make any other changes?
austere stag
tips?
peak stratus
I really need help with this
muted cairn
@peak stratus you can waste heroes you dont use to bring their HP down in order for your main attack
peak stratus
I already tried a team, they only boosted them
still oar
@austere stag u need superior saveas and faction bonus. Your enemies use full faction bonus
austere stag
@still oar who should I throw out for Saveas then?
muted cairn
Arden or Tasi
mossy nova
Can get my shemira to mythic but would have to do this.. thoughts?
muted cairn
@mossy nova do it
still oar
@austere stag Bel. And make 3 2 faction. Us e Brutus to hold Brutus and saveas wrecks from above
coral tundra
Should I replace anyone? I plan on putting shemira over fawkes when I get her
muted cairn
@coral tundra replace Isabella with Saveas
mossy nova
Thanks @muted cairn
austere stag
@still oar it doesn't give me the aura because of Lucius. Should I put in Vurk for him?
coral tundra
Which one is saveas again? Lol
muted cairn
@coral tundra the rat with horns xD he's a mauler
still oar
@austere stag you don't have wilders such as lyca or ogi or nemora. Or tank wilders. If not yeah try him
coral tundra
Oh. Dont have him yet. Should I replace her with anyone else I have atm?
vast wren
@pseudo bear were you able to down any heroes? Or they all survived and you got rekt?
muted cairn
@coral tundra yes u do
still oar
@coral tundra spear dude
coral tundra
Oh that guy lol
muted cairn
yeah him lol that's Saveas
coral tundra
Should I wait till I have shemira, or what?
muted cairn
Saveas is going to help a lot more than Isabella, so do it now
vast wren
@pseudo bear you can toy with athalia as a replacement for thane to stall isabella’s magic atk
still oar
@coral tundra shem's power is her ult while sav is just a simple gun
coral tundra
Should I keep same position and just put sav where bella was? Or different positioning?
kind verge
I probably just need to level up or get better gear but I’m Stuck on 11-16 anyone have any suggestions
muted cairn
Switch Brutus and Kaz around and dont have Fawkes front line
still oar
@coral tundra sav top back or front to help vedan survive till ult
kind verge
I’ve just been throwing people in and out out of frustration aha I’ll give that a go.
muted cairn
switch Fawkes for Arden for faction bonus and if that doesnt help, level up more
umbral monolith
Roger
glad ridge
Any ideas
cinder crag
topaz otter
Any ideas because i sure as hell am stumped
cinder crag
Hey y'all any tips? This is driving me nuts and Niru is downright broken
muted cairn
@glad ridge
Belinda, Arden, Shemira,
Lucius, Hogan
@cinder crag switch Lucius and Hogan around and switch Belinda and Fawkes around
glad ridge
@muted cairn Is that top to bottom?
topaz otter
@cinder crag get Brutus lol
dark egret
I cant do this hardstuck 6-32
muted cairn
@glad ridge the 3 is backline, the 2 is front, and in that order too
cinder crag
Not anytime soon with this bs RNG @topaz otter
topaz otter
@dark egret move fire girlmid and focus top with ur best dps aka dog and wombat
dark egret
I try this too and i lost
muted cairn
Mirael's ult is more effective in the middle, you might just need levels
topaz otter
Bottom u need to stall until you get done with top so put a sponge down there @dark egret and yeah levels might be needed
Maybe shamera bottom @dark egret
glad ridge
@muted cairn smoked
muted cairn
@glad ridge need levels then, focus on levelling Saveas
topaz otter
1 wombat 2 shamera 3 dog 4 fire girl 5 goat hoe
glad ridge
@muted cairn sev?
peak stratus
What shud i get ...?
muted cairn
@glad ridge Saveas, yes. @topaz otter switch Athalia and Nemora around and switch Saveas and Shemira pos
peak stratus
I can't win battleas easy tho, u sure ?
glad ridge
You didn't tell me to put him in my lineup?
topaz otter
@muted cairnI'll give it a shot
peak stratus
Georix u know what i should take for relic?
muted cairn
whats ur lineup?
peak stratus
I got this
topaz otter
Nogo
muted cairn
Crit or Branch - stephanie
peak stratus
Ty good sir
dark egret
@topaz otter okk thanks for help
topaz otter
@peak stratus also u know u can run from battles ur going to lose right?
muted cairn
@topaz otter press the "back" button on your phone
topaz otter
@dark egretdid it work?
peak stratus
I know, but i had no choise if i didn't take the athalia + saveas lose i might never passed it.
dark egret
No but i wait and level dog
topaz otter
@muted cairn or pause the battle and quit far easier lolz
@dark egretgood stuff :) best of luck
dark egret
Ty <3
topaz otter
@dark egret
@peak stratusidk I rng hundreds of times xD eventually if I roll enough dice ill land enough crits to save everyone
peak stratus
i 've been rolling for 2 hrs 😄 was pretty getting hopeless until i saw this, i just took it since i got 2x sav leg e.e
i do have the option to either revive 1 or heal all my mates q-q
topaz otter
Lol i hate that shit "oh this fight looks easy ill get the relic" jk 3 hours and 500 rerolls later "should have hit the abandoned cart"
peak stratus
isn't the red flag supposed to be the stronger camp?
light elm
Yes
peak stratus
it's the weakest in my row now q-q
topaz otter
Idk i just look at the team comps to see if my teams effective against it
light elm
Power level is higher doesn't mean the fight is harder
topaz otter
^ hence the team comps being important power levels trivial imo I look for rarity and comp
light elm
Try for the red camps, it gives better relics, makes the lab easier
topaz otter
Hmm I'll have 2 look out for that never noticed it before tbh
peak stratus
yhea but i am stuck on a dilemma =3, on either the heal or the revive, the heal wil heal my brutus, but the revive might give me my strong sav back, but then my brutus is worth nothing but i'd be able to go for red flag
peak stratus
true
light elm
You know about the pause and quit start?
peak stratus
i do yes, but had no choice there it was that or lose all 5. cuz i fucked up a relic :^)
topaz otter
@peak stratus also u could always revive everyone with a tear if it gets bad
peak stratus
was spamming the screen a bit 2 enthousiastic, ( i got no tears thats why i rely on help)
light elm
Play warek instead of brutus and try
peak stratus
should go for this ?
muted cairn
steph - depends on how much HP your heroes have
peak stratus
muted cairn
I'd go for the heal then, Brutus weak af
peak stratus
Shall i this, or a full mauler team ?
This is the left one, sorry for such (cry for help c: i failed lab 3x i rlly wanna make this one work)
muted cairn
Go for lightbearers since Maulers will destroy Wilders
peak stratus
u only got 2 usefull wilders tho
muted cairn
and Maulers will destroy those 2 useful Wilders
peak stratus
welp, thx went well indeed 😄
muted cairn
good
peak stratus
i shud take this one no?
muted cairn
yup
blazing stratus
Need help to pass this stage
muted cairn
Switch Saveas and Athalia
peak stratus
yhea but brutus + estrilda
pale kettle
is seirus worth keeping or should i feed him to legendary tasi ?
Here's my situation
last granite
@pale kettle do you use him often? I personally would choose to feed tasi
pale kettle
@last granite i prefer the tree dude actually but everyone says he's one of the best tanks so I dunno
last granite
Then let's not ascend anyone yet just in case
pale kettle
Haha yeah probably best to feed something else I guess
last granite
I can ascend a couple of heroes too but unless really necessary I won't sacrifice anyone yet. Just in case I get some good heroes
crisp oracle
Hi tried a lot of combi and this seems the one that worked the most, but dunno how beat thi
split oar
muted cairn
@crisp oracle underleveled
marble talon
Move saveas back, khasos front. Replace Ira with Athalia. If it doesn't work, levels.
split oar
Help@me out please
marble talon
Switch Brutus and Lucius in the positioning. If it doesn't work, levels @split oar
muted cairn
@split oar underleveled and don't put Brutus against another Brutus
muted cairn
switch Ogi for Golus
hot bear
Should I use the rare+ one or wait to get him to elite at least?
muted cairn
at that level, doesnt matter
vast parcel
serene brook
Help pls
muted cairn
underleveled
worthy bane
@noble abyss Someone else my guild was stuck on the same level. You need to have intense burn on either Niru or Vedan early, trying to out sustain them will be unlikely. Try adding a Saveas into your team for sure and also level up a bit
odd bluff
muted cairn
161 Shemira would make a difference
little spruce
any tips
muted cairn
levels, get a 3 faction bonus when you get a decent Elite or higher Graveborn/Wilder
still oar
@urban basalt yup level and faction bonus. Yours is half theirs
urban basalt
@still oar i can swap out the celestial at the bottom back for arden but he seems to die easily, so im guessing just a few days afking atm
still oar
The enemies use faction bonus. Their power is 94 + 25%. While yours is just plain 69k.
turbid stone
Hi
which team can I make ? thx
ancient meadow
Im stuck 7-30 do you have any recommendation on lineup to use?
I have belinda what heroes do i mix it with will solid?
muted cairn
@ancient meadow switch Silvinia for Saveas
ancient meadow
@still oar thanks
fallow drum
which hero should I focus on? Or distribute evenly?
lament birch
Should I try nemora/Arden instead of Silvina/shemira?
cinder hill
ivory walrus
Can someone help me beat this lvl
muted cairn
@ivory walrus levels
ivory walrus
muted cairn
Arden is too weak, his vines can help out providing he stays alive
fallow drum
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/575646393964691458/unknown.png
Which hero should I focus on? Or distribute evenly?
ancient meadow
I got brutus back lv100 need 892/1200 purple dusts get him lv101
velvet linden
Hello everyone 😃
A bit of help would be welcomed
kind oak
Brutus is a Hard solo carry xD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575322224509190144/575328893683105792/unknown.png
velvet linden
muted cairn
oui oui oui
fallow drum
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/575646393964691458/unknown.png
Which hero should I focus on? Or distribute evenly?
still oar
@velvet linden level up ur sav to the max
kind oak
@fallow drum For me : Saveas
velvet linden
Legit? He always felt kind of meh. Whom should I replace? Ira?
still oar
@fallow drum sav as main dp while working on Shem as 2nd. Golus and Hogan as tank Arden and tasi as support
@velvet linden yeah dump ira.
marble dome
Need some help with lineup
muted cairn
@marble dome line up is great, just need levels, focus on leveling Saveas
tawdry fern
@marble dome
Front: Brutus and golus
back : Saveas arden khasos
cerulean shore
@marble dome it's a great mauler team, but maybe you should find counter measure when dealing with lightbearer if they're too hard, like having a graveborn lineup as a backup
velvet linden
Seems like its more about hitting a stat check than formation/team comp
cerulean shore
@velvet linden hahaha yeah, but you can even beat enemy twice your power level if the team is right or should I say you have a overpowered solo carry lol
still oar
Like saveas
velvet linden
For sure 👌
Or that dolphin summoning dude. Still, I'm enjoying the experience
earnest plank
muted cairn
@tranquil garden i would say levels but Elites are capped at 100, try switching Lucius for Vedan
cinder crag
I have enough tavern tokens what faction should I go for ? Any ideas ?
storm comet
Is this good?
muted cairn
@storm comet yes -- @cinder crag Lightbearer
cinder crag
Wish me luck for Lucius :D thanks for advice
storm comet
Wish I have nemora
tranquil garden
@muted cairn Thanks for the suggestion! Do you think a Wilders team would work? (Since chapter 8 are majority graveborns). Thinking of an Arden, Kaz, Nemora, Seirus and Lyca team composition, but problem there is all of them are Elites, and Arden's the only Elite+ among them
cinder crag
@storm comet Wish I had tasi :/ both nemora and tasi are super good
muted cairn
@tranquil garden Graveborns are weak to Wilders, so yes. 3+ Wilders would be best
muted cairn
Vurk > Belinda
Golus > Hogan
last rain
Hogan gets oneshotted
peak stratus
any suggestions ?
muted cairn
Seirus for CC
peak stratus
into this ?
muted cairn
yup
peak stratus
which should i run ?
final lagoon
Any advice?
rugged folio
need some help
last granite
@earnest plank I dont think khasos is a great tank. Swap him with hogan if you can and put khasos in place of saveas. See if that helps.
tawdry maple
8-24. Not really dying. But running out of time before I can win it.
last granite
@rugged folio I think you need arden for cc so maybe swap fawkes with arden?
@final lagoon imo frontline lucius grezhul. Backline belinda ira tasi
peak stratus
what should i do 😦 ?
last granite
@tawdry maple does nemora able to heal your team? Because i think you need to swap her with someone with higher dps
tawdry maple
She is, typically silvina goes after belinda first.
last granite
@peak stratus they're both look tough. Who are in your main team?
peak stratus
this is all i got :c
glad oasis
start a new run
last granite
@tawdry maple try swapping tasi for fawkes. Dunno if it'll help but it's worth a try
flat condor
Assistance vita.
languid sorrel
last granite
@peak stratus phew that's not looking very good. Do you have dura tears? If you do then use it
neon pasture
8-40 help? thanks
tawdry maple
I had fawkes originally. I replaced Belinda with fawkes for the extra cc, and i won it. Thanks anyways!
languid sorrel
My guild war lineup feels pretty weak, any tips
serene brook
Help pls
peak stratus
I don't thats why it is so hard for me 😦
serene brook
I'll try it
pale kettle
who 3lse ne3ds help
last granite
@peak stratus if I have to choose between the two I'd choose left as they only have 1 mythic hero
peak stratus
i see, thx.
last granite
@peak stratus don't forget to use the exit battle feature if you're losing. You can experiment with comp after that
neon pasture
@pale kettle i do 😄 8-40 pics up
peak stratus
tyvm shiya
last granite
@peak stratus no prob. Good luck
pale kettle
@neon pasture easy
plain peak
Guys should i get nemora or khasos? If i get khasos i can upgrade it up to legendary
pale kettle
get your aiden out and put the mauler mage in
sterile widget
@pale kettle Besides Angelo, what faction should I focus on now?
late gyro
Ascend Kaz to leg+ or save fodder till I get a Lyca or something else?
pale kettle
wilders @sterile widget
and try to make a good 3 1 1 team or 4 1 team.. either the 3 wilders lyca , nemora, tassi + lucius + shemira
noble abyss
@late gyro Ascend Kaz to only Legendary with Ira and ulmus.
late gyro
why only legendary? i have 2x kaz elite+
pale kettle
or the standart 3 with kaz + lucius on late game
late gyro
@noble abyss U are advising me to use Ulmus as fodder instead of Ogi?? Ulmus is ascended tier, Ogi is legendary tier
glacial spoke
Top 5 my current team... what should I change?
noble abyss
@late gyro I'm retarted, yes ascend to L+ with Ogi and Ira
sterile widget
Yeah, I don't have Brutus at all. But I did just get my shomera to Legendary. So should I spend 80 faction scrolls on Wilders or do half on Wilders half trying to pull more shemira @pale kettle
ancient frost
Any advice or things I should change?
last granite
@glacial spoke are you stuck on any particular level? Because if not then they're good to go
pale kettle
@sterile widget all in wilders, you need 3 -4 wilders for your team but only 1 grave
grand tide
^
pale kettle
so you need way more blues and food in wilders than in grave, no point using faction scrolls in your +1
grand tide
what should I do
pale kettle
you need to get all dmg you have to kill vedan before he ults
glacial spoke
@last granite 7-36
pale kettle
get your belinda behind saveas @grand tide and fawkes on top, the other mage mid
last granite
@glacial spoke sorry can you screenshot it? I forgot who we are against at that level
glacial oar
What's a good team to beat 7-32?
grand tide
I still got smacked up
glacial spoke
@last granite
grand tide
@glacial oar who do you have
glacial oar
Just realized I am on 7-36
last granite
@glacial spoke how close you are to winning with that team? If you're close chance are you only need to change a hero or the comp
@glacial spoke also try this frontline: ezizh hogan. Backline: arden ira belinda
glacial spoke
Thanks, not even close with my current team. Will try ur
glacial oar
This is what I use for 7-36 and I get close to winning, anything I should change?
calm elk
feeling pretty hardstuck, tried the stage aroun 40 times with different lineups (mainly switching tasi for different units for buffs/heal/dmg) nothing worked. any reccomendations or just lvl up to 141
last granite
@glacial oar okay try swapping belinda position with silvina
glacial oar
Ty, I will try.
Update: Tried twice, and won the 2nd time. Thank you again.
last granite
@glacial oar congrats 👏
brittle summit
Need help with setting up my lineup for 5-24
grim belfry
glacial oar
Help with 7-40 please lol
grim belfry
phase 17-28, any tip?
idle path
Stuck on 11-28 any help would be great
last flicker
Need help xD Im stuck here around a week
last granite
@calm elk I'm not there yet but have you tried changing saveas and belinda position and swapping tasi for arden?
@brittle summit can you screenshot the level you're stuck on?
brittle summit
blissful flume
Lacks tank
dreamy garden
I'm hard stuck on this stage no idea how to pass it been trying for days 😑 any help would be greatly appreciated
last granite
@brittle summit from what I see you can definitely level up a lot of your heroes to higher level. I'd suggest frontline: hogan seirus/estrilda. Backline fawkes mirael tasi.
soft phoenix
last granite
@brittle summit try resetting heroes that you rarely use and focus on those with preferably high dps
neon pasture
@pale kettle finally passed it worked, thanks
pale kettle
@neon pasture np
chilly crater
any help for last boss on labyrinth? Seem like its impossible for current setup options lol
soft phoenix
Why does everyone have a good team xd
sterile widget
@pale kettle Used all the scrolls. Ended up with a fodder Arden L+. Already have another Arden L+. Should I make Nemora or Lyca M+? Or just hold on to him
dreamy garden
@soft phoenix I don't been hard stuck on 8-40 for almost a week tried all forms of combinations and nothing I've tried works lol
soft phoenix
I've been stuck on 6-24
pale kettle
id make both mythic over 1 mythic + , @sterile widget
grand tide
Brutus is a beast
soft phoenix
I have a brutus
languid sorrel
I have a brutus
soft phoenix
worldly badge
@chilly crater try Athalia instead of Isabella
dreamy garden
late gyro
any advice?
languid sorrel
my lineup is pretty garbage though, lucius brutus belinda fawkes mirael
late gyro
soft phoenix
I BEAT ITTTTTT
worldly badge
@late gyro yeah, lvl up, the BR difference is huge
last granite
@dreamy garden try frontline: hogan lucius. Backline: saveas arden belinda. Put hogan against brutus, he can stun him for awhile
wheat geyser
Hey guys, can anyone help me figure out what to do? I can upgrade nemora to legendary but doing so I'll loose my Arden currently on my lineup. What should I replace him with?
Btw, how should I level my heroes? One level at the time with all of them or should I just level a few of them more than the others?
dreamy garden
@last granite I'll give it a shot thanks (:
last granite
@dreamy garden fingers crossed it'll work
languid sorrel
should I take Belinda to leg or wait on getting another fawkes or somethin?
velvet linden
Hey lads, do you think swapping Golus and Sav with Velan and Silvinia would make my comp a tad better?
last granite
@languid sorrel according to the people you shouldn't use ascended tiers as fodder. Sooo.. Save them just in case?
@velvet linden whether a comp is good or not depends on the enemy. But from your heroes I'd personally focus on ira and mirael. They're ultimates are pretty dang good
languid sorrel
I mean as in taking some hogans and making belinda leg instead of waiting for another fawkes or somethin to take to leg
last granite
@languid sorrel as long as you have other tank then I think that's fine
languid sorrel
Yeah, I was going to have my frontline as brutus and lucian (both leg)
wheat geyser
Can anyone help please? I posted a bit above with 2 pictures
pseudo sinew
@wheat geyser I'd hold onto Arden, he's very useful during mid game. I don't think Leg Nemora is a must for you right now either.
last granite
I'm on chapter 9 and still using hogan and lucius cause I can't pull brutus
wheat geyser
Oh ok thanks, and what about the lineup, is it decent?
languid sorrel
Im stuck on 9-20 and I just got brutus leg (and now belinda)
velvet linden
They're both pretty dope, but i'm not sure where to place them, consider Sav is squishy, and my tanks are still lagging behind when it comes to tankiness.
pseudo sinew
@wheat geyser Looks good to me.
wheat geyser
What should I look out too? And what about the leveling thing?
last granite
@languid sorrel you go use that spinny boy. That broken broken spinny boy
languid sorrel
I will chief, and hopefully get passed this within the next week
I want to get saveas or something and replace mirael and get fawkes to elite+ tho
pseudo sinew
@wheat geyser Level them up equally. I'd probably focus on Brutus/Athalia.
wheat geyser
Thanks for your time man, will do
last granite
@languid sorrel saveas is a hard pull. Basically I just got the worse luck with maulers faction
pseudo sinew
@wheat geyser You're welcome.
languid sorrel
I have 1 rare for him rn, so its going to be a bit anyways
last granite
Aye man we're in this together. That's why this server exist. To get us closer through pain and suffering
calm elk
@last granite just tried that, didnt really help
dreamy garden
@last granite as much as I wanna say that team works it gets me so close and then niru just max heals and I lose :(
last granite
@calm elk @dreamy garden I'm out of ideas. You two might need to summon higher level lineup guru like @ Aerostati
pseudo sinew
Tried swapping your backline heroes around so that Niru gets focused first somehow? @dreamy garden
dreamy garden
@pseudo sinew yeah it's really the Arden v Silva that's destroying me because she kills him so quickly but if I take my artifact off Hogan Brutus and Isabelle slaughter him
last granite
dont forget to enhance gears
dreamy garden
Only got a few left to enhance lol
pseudo sinew
You do have a Fawkes in there that could lock somebody up @dreamy garden
dreamy garden
Hmm who should I take out for Fawkes though?
blazing spindle
Stuck on 8-38, any help? Or do I just need to wait and level my people more
9-38**
pseudo sinew
I'd run Fawkes Belinda Saveas Lucius Brutus. Artifact should be on Lucius or Brutus. Ideally place Saveas on the Niru side and try to burst him down. You can try Arden for Belinda too, see who survives longer.
dreamy garden
@pseudo sinew I'll try it
pseudo sinew
You could also try Hogan over Brutus, like @last granite said above. I personally always get more value out of Brutus, but that doesn't mean it'll be the same for you.
dreamy garden
I'll attempt the 3 setups at least 10 times each and report back what happens
teal moat
@blazing spindle ya first need to put a real tank up front, instead of nemora, so get that Skreg out there to tank, use Vurk and saveas mate, Maulers > Wilders
languid sorrel
So close to beating 9-20, brutus decided to shout isntead of hitting nemora one more time
blazing spindle
@teal moat so skreg/vurk/saveas/vedan/fareal?
teal moat
@blazing spindle ya, or add warek for the extra bonus
last granite
@languid sorrel brutus is a gentleman and simply doesn't wanna slap nemora
noble abyss
Wilders is better than maulers
languid sorrel
gahhhhhhhhhhhh Thats what I need him to do tho
noble abyss
Against lets say Hypogeans or Celestiald
last granite
@languid sorrel enhance his gear and see if he likes his new toys
dreamy garden
@pseudo sinew 2nd attempt with fawkes, belinda, saveas, brutus, lucius and I beat it thank you and @last granite for the advice I really appreciate it (:
pseudo sinew
Nice. Fawkes saved the day.
last granite
@dreamy garden happy to help a comrade in need
languid sorrel
DOnt have enought stuff to enhance his stuff, its all elite+ and leg
dreamy garden
@pseudo sinew he honestly did silv went after my Belinda and Fawkes just locked Isabell down I had Lucius fight Brutus just to out tank him and my brutus was against golus and niru with my saveas backing him up even watching it I was surprised because it was literally a enemy brutus and isabell vs my saveas and somehow won that fight lol
languid sorrel
i suppose I can switch the leg+ weapon from lucius to brutus and try that
pseudo sinew
Yeah, Saveas is really strong at this point of the game. I'm using a similar comp on my alt account, Fawkes lockup and Saveas damage generally win fights early on. @dreamy garden
last granite
@languid sorrel hopefully it'll work
dreamy garden
@pseudo sinew the Belinda crit buff also helped immensely
loud minnow
@noble abyss saveas and belinda in the back. Replace nemora for belinda. Use skreg in the front as a tank.
noble abyss
I don't have skreg @loud minnow
loud minnow
@noble abyss oops my bad. Warek. Mistaken him for skreg 😂
noble abyss
Replace arden with Sav? @loud minnow
loud minnow
@noble abyss dont. Arden has a good cc. If can replace ira with silvina. So the enemy silvina can't attack your team and enemy team will be distracted to attack your silvina giving chances for sav for attack more.
glossy holly
Well, I'm stuck at 6-28, any thing I can so better?
blissful plaza
Any advice about ascent and lineup to defeat 6-4 and unlock Time's Peak so ??? Would be appreciate. Best regards
still oar
Silvina will just kill Arden. You need silvina bait
sacred spear
loud minnow
@glossy holly reset hogan and level up Bel.
still oar
@sacred spear you need dps
sacred spear
Ye
noble abyss
@loud minnow like this?
thin fjord
Can anyone help I have been stuck for days on 7-40
glossy holly
@loud minnow okay, anything else I can do to improve?
still oar
@sacred spear try use Shem instead of Angelo. Don't rely on faction bonus all the time
loud minnow
@noble abyss yes. Replace kaz with warek. Try it first then if it fails, replace arden with saveas.
summer fiber
I need help ;"3
noble abyss
@thin fjord Arden Ira Nemora Lucius and Kaz is what I used. But Estrilda In Kaz's place will be fine
loud minnow
@glossy holly nah that's all. Upgrade the main 5 to level 100. Especially belinda. She is really op in high levels.
glossy holly
Okay, thanks
sacred spear
@still oar tyty
blissful plaza
loud minnow
If u guys have any doubt about beating bosses, try the main 5 or if possible 2 or 3 from the second row.
swift ledge
Should I ascend Brutus yet? Or wait for material https://imgur.com/a/Dn16l3v
ionic jackal
@swift ledge wait
pseudo sinew
@glossy holly You probably can. Aquaman takes more dmg from Maulers, so your frontline should be Hogan and Estrilda or Golus. You should put in Belinda over Mirael.
swift ledge
I thought so also. Been waiting a few days already
ionic jackal
Also prioritize to leg+ saveas first before leg your brutus @swift ledge
noble abyss
@loud minnow All my heroes dies quickly
swift ledge
Yes I am saving those Saveas for that purpose
woeful quarry
Guys, I really need help with my lineup. I can't get trough 8-36 and I can't even complete laberynth (always stuck on the 3rd floor)
loud minnow
@noble abyss did u try with saveas?
swift ledge
And what heroes should I prioritize upgrading here? I don’t really use Belinda but that way my Ezizh is a bit higher level. I use Brutus, Ezizh, Saveas, Numisu and Khasos. https://imgur.com/a/TKBcUOq
noble abyss
@loud minnow yes
blissful plaza
loud minnow
@noble abyss level him up. Then try like this Lucius and Warek in the front. Arden, Saveas and Shemira/ Tasi in the back
languid sorrel
EYYY 9-20 DONE thanks @last granite
ionic jackal
@swift ledge that's already a good lineup for your heroes
swift ledge
Alright. That has worked the best so far
last granite
@languid sorrel ayyeee congrats buddy 
pseudo sinew
@blissful plaza Imo you can safely ascend Estrilda and use her + Thoran as your frontline.
noble abyss
like this @loud minnow
summer fiber
I need help with my lineup- players with a lower K then me are somehow beating me and I don't think that's good.
last granite
@summer fiber dont put tasi on frontline. She's not a tank
ionic parcel
U got some backline heroes in front
+put the witch in a middle so fire would touch everybody
pseudo sinew
@summer fiber Swap Angelo for Ogi and put Ogi as a tank, Tasi to backline.
ionic parcel
switch position 2 with 4 and then 3 with 4
pseudo sinew
Not much else to do with that teamcomp. You need better heroes, give it a bit of time. @summer fiber
pale kettle
So i can't beat this guy's 1st lineup at all but I can beat the 2nd one and the 3rd I can't beat vedan. Any tips?
blissful plaza
@pseudo sinew Ty
pseudo sinew
You're welcome @blissful plaza
@pale kettle If you lose the first round anyway, why not concede it fully and move some of your stronger heroes @ 3rd team? That way you should win round 2 and 3.
gilded fractal
@grand tide idk if u woke up but i beat that lvl haha this was my formation and stats
pale kettle
i need 1 copy of shemira to get her from gols to mythic
gilded fractal
9-32, not the lvl pictured btw
loud minnow
@noble abyssyes.
pale kettle
@pseudo sinew i didnt think of that, then id still win since i beat 2/3
pseudo sinew
Yep, exactly.
summer fiber
Would this work?
supple pelican
Suggestions? I’ve been stuck for 3 days and tried every combination
fervent coyote
no angelo yes sav
woeful quarry
Guys, I really need help with my lineup. I can't get trough 8-36 and I can't even complete laberynth (always stuck on the 3rd floor)
pale kettle
@pseudo sinew it was a good idea but i failed to beat the 2nd. Ima just take a break
potent jasper
need help on 8-32 please I'm stuck on dust for pushing 121
been on this for a couple days
cinder crag
Any ideas on how to beat this ?
acoustic coyote
@potent jasper just try and level your heroes up, I don't see a way for you to put Arden or Fawkes in for some CC without losing faction bonus. Patience 😛 it's a tough node
lyric pilot
Anyone have any tips for 10-21? I manage to kill alle of them but when that happens its just a endless 1v1 with saveas vs saveas
pale kettle
@cinder crag put belinda behind hogan,shemira in front of lucius and silvina center
cinder crag
I also have saveas and Fawkes if that helps
gilded fractal
@cinder crag id use sav where silvina is and arden instead of shemira, and put arden or faekes where belinda is and pop belinda on the bottom. have you tried that?
cinder crag
Brb gonna try out
acoustic coyote
@lyric pilot try Mirael or Belinda instead of Lyca for a couple of times, if it's going horribly maybe Nemora if you think you'll still have the damage. Tough level to beat without faction bonus, I had +25% and barely beat it yesterday
potent jasper
@acoustic coyote thank you
keen niche
Any tips on what my formation should be?
lyric pilot
Yeah. w/o lyca lucius doesnt get his ult off in time. Hogan is so freaking tanky its impossible to kill him 😦
acoustic coyote
@keen niche luc, belinda, fawkes, athalia/saveas, arden. Don't follow my words blindly tho lol
cinder crag
This doesn't work @gilded fractal
limber shale
Any advice ?
acoustic coyote
@cinder crag try to get khasos to 101 its gonna boost everyone in crystal maybe youll get it then
pale kettle
Any idea how to beat 8-40? I've been stuck for a few days
old gull
Lyca - Raine , Brutus - estrilda, Arden - Belinda, change those, would be my guess, keep Brutus front. @pale kettle
vestal halo
I’m really struggling here super stuck
ionic jackal
@vestal halo switch saveas with morvus for faction bonus and ferael with tasi for better cc, win condition should be tasi ult and Belinda finish them off
muted cairn
@woeful haven send screenshots instead of file downloads
muted cairn
@woeful haven looks pretty good, Lightbearers are weak to Graveborns, would recommend levelling a bit though
ionic jackal
@pale kettle that's 9-20 right? Not 8-40 hahaha, I would try to use shemira belinda lyca nemora Arden, cc that enemy nemora
still ingot
Any suggestions on my lineup? I will upgrade if needed @ me please
woeful haven
@muted cairn so keep line up and just levl them a bit?
muted cairn
@woeful haven yes, I'd keep that line up
woeful haven
Thanks
muted cairn
@still ingot switch Hogan and Khasos positions and level up
normal echo
fervent coyote
nemora gets oneshot by silv 😎
still oar
👍
pale kettle
@ionic jackal oh right its 9-20, 8-40 pissed me off too so i forget sometimes😂
woeful quarry
Guys, I really need help with my lineup. I can't get trough 8-36 and I can't even complete laberynth (always stuck on the 3rd floor)
still ingot
Ok ty
dusky sage
What can i use to beat this boss?
scarlet kraken
Lightbearers
pale kettle
@ionic jackal the lineup almost does ok but shemira dies first and nemora doesnt heal anyone
ionic jackal
@pale kettle well ideally your dps should be able to kill niru first before anyone else died and nemora's primary job is her charm
replace shemira with better tank and hope belinda can kill fast 😦
pale kettle
;-; I'm starting to be convinced niru is invincible
still oar
@pale kettle only for enemies
unique vapor
pale rover
@pale kettle
Saveas
Golus
Lyca
Brutus
Arden
But not sure due to ascensions.
pale kettle
@still oar of course, that's why niru got fed to shemira
@pale rover i swapped savaes and arden and was able to kill vedan but that's it. Ascension is definitely the problem :/
pale rover
@pale kettle You'll get there. Just try not to use factions that are weak to your opponents. Neutral factions are okay, better if they have the advantage.
Saveas and Arden are relatively easy to ascend.
pale kettle
Yeah, thanks
pale rover
Sure, good luck!
abstract crown
subtle cedar
Hi. Famous 9-40 stuck. Do you guys think it is beatable with my current setup?
pale rover
@meager surge Kindly don't post your screenshot in every channel. This is for lineup help requests only, thanks.
meager surge
Ok my bad honestly just saw the word help and tunnel visioned
pale rover
@subtle cedar Shemira Seirus front, Arden Saveas/Silvina Nemora at the back.
lean beacon
supple ruin
You think my line up needs a nemora and should I switch athalia to someone else
lean beacon
11-40 being mean to me... What should I try?
pale kettle
light elm
@lean beacon you can try saveas for nimisu
pale kettle
Any help ?
muted cairn
switch Thoran for Golus
tough igloo
Stuck at 12-40. Any tips? Would like to finish chapter. Want those 
lean beacon
@light elm cool I'll try them again. My esthirel just dies and let's everyone in through the back door. And I'm like God damnit SANCHEZ! I told you not to let anyone in!
light elm
If your ign is same msg in guild chat @lean beacon
@tough igloo if brutus decimates your team try your own brutus top
I think your levels are a bit too low but you can try a few times
tough igloo
Yeah. Tried it. But the damage from those 2 graveborn is insane. And need to kill those asap. Those bats are a pain
Found chapter 12 quite easy annoying to be stopped on last stage. 🙄
subtle cedar
@pale rover I have tried it before and now again. They all die to quickly. No one gets of their ulti 🙈
zinc token
Hey how to complete library?
light elm
Add friends and join a good guild
zinc token
Anyone can help me with the friend part? :u
candid turtle
Who should I level up next?
tough igloo
@subtle cedar for me those stages with those graveborn, ardens root is really helpful to kill of that vampire before he bats out.
lean beacon
@candid turtle Belinda?
candid turtle
Whys that?
subtle cedar
@tough igloo I use him. And yes I can kill either vedan or niru before the rest of the team recks me hard
marsh orchid
Help on 9-28?
subtle cedar
This is why i was asking if you think or is possible with my current Setup
tough igloo
Yeah i know. It sucks. You have lyca or tasi? Those can help CC and get damage put early, with enough tried those setups can work as long as you have enough dps
subtle cedar
Nope neither of them wants to drop for me
candid turtle
@lean beacon why should I upgrade belinda?
pale rover
For stages with Niru, Vedan in front: put Ogi in front of them.
Add Arden at the back for extra measure so they can't move/are rooted.
tranquil hill
Elite can only go to lvl 100 and if you level belinda instea d of your brutus you can go to level 120 and your resonating crystal will allow the elites to go past 100
candid turtle
Huh
subtle cedar
Ogi so Strange for me. Never even got him rate+ 😂
candid turtle
Wouldnt it still be capped till I get everyone to 80?