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@gilded fractal she doesnβt get killed immediately, but when she teleport again and enemies focus on Shem instead
also who is better Seirus or Hogan
You could try to pull Call on Tasi and see if she can get sleep off quicker?
but it might be able to give shem some room to breathe
even if she doesnt charge energy as fast
Fix that with Call Artifact . 
or you could move shem to the spot that isnt directly behind tasi
@gilded fractal main problem about is.,, Shem rely on her ult to win the fight. Her regular attack doesnβt do much
yeah thats fair. just if she gets killed too fast for her ult to heal her its not much help either x( hm this is a predicament
Just mess around with the Call Artifact and positioning.
Thanks guys, I will try, but I feel like Shem isnβt as good as people mentioned
She wouldn't be ranked 2nd in top tier for nothing lol in due time she'll shine . π
@nocturne peak @gilded fractal if I knew, I would ascend Grezhul instead. Heβs more helpful
Yeah Grezhul is quite nice to have as well.
possibly she might not be as overleveled as she should to be a carry. she has = level to brutus and the enemy is 181
but hey good lucky :( youre at a far rougher point than i am
Yeah that point looks rough. Where you at now Alice?
@gilded fractal @nocturne peak look at this guy team, he still canβt beat that 16-12. Lol
Oh wow lol
Should i buy shemira or nemora for my comp?
I've been stuck on 8-40 for a while .-. What should I swap up?
@nocturne peak 9-28 i think, i just kinda resigned to working on getting dust to break 121 for my units
oof thats rough
Ah I just broke through to ch 10 myself. 9-** was quite rough.
@shut parrot Nemora first. tbh.
Hi all, can anyone help? Iβm stuck on 8-40. Can I improve my lineup anyway? Anyone I can swap? My lineup is circled
I know people say shem is op but i dont have much synerg for her
I want to keep my lineup but the problem is saevas/brutus/kasos is my main comp and against lightbringers, well they don't do so well... is there a way i can keep them for chapter 7 or are like the wilders i have better?
@wet sonnet Try to use Belinda instead of Raine, and swap Savaes and Belinda positions.
@ember dagger Try perhaps Lucious/Hogan/Belinda/Arden/Ira.
@uneven parcel Sometimes swapping out units for certain battles is needed. I would put Arden on crystal And use him instead of Khasos for that fight for some more CC , try that out. Also, you need to level a bit more as well. Work on gear.
I'm hesitant to upgrade gear because i know better ones will come and don't want to commit upgrading more than 1*
And thx i will try that kept those spots open in case i will need to make a big change in my team

i would honestly try brutus - golus - saveas - arden/tasi - shemira
i used that exact same comp a lot
err.... Really? Why Golus, why EVER Golus? He just dies right away for me
@lavish tapir hey Javi, what stage are you on now? and what's the best team for Chapter 16?
Golus is actually pretty good. @cyan comet no clue, i'm still at 14
I'm stuck here >.>
Golus has never worked for me even with a comp similar to what you just named
@lavish tapir I feel like Shem is a noob trap, sheβs a lot worse than Brutus
Golus is there to give faction bonus atk and def
@cyan comet Sometimes, in some stages, you just can't put shemira in front
hmm... but what for now? since I can't just yet afford shem
@lavish tapir Shem dies way too fast even she's mythic+ level 179 with full mythic gear
you spent quite a bit in the past few days lol. As i said, vs heavy DPS teams, putting her in front is not the best of the ideas
most of the times it works, but some stages you need to find a workaround
@unreal charm can you post pic of the stage you're at?
Dunno how I got stuck but niru is op asf
@azure needle Yeah Niru is painful
@unreal charm try golek brutus -fawkes arden saveas
Hey guys I'm stuck on 6-28 any ideas on character choice or character line up or should I farm AFK rewards
fawkes? not tasi? @fallen olive
She should work as well, dont really like using her myself, and fawkes tomb should be reliable
But have only used fawkes on lab run so could be wrong
Any advice? Niru is painful
eh tasi can just remove a hero AND her ult seems much better @fallen olive
you have a pretty good setup @azure needle it seems like you just need to afk a bit and get more levels on your heroes
also did you mean golus ? @fallen olive
Use isabela to upgrade shemira?
@Person#823 honestly just dislike her teleporting to enemies and dying lol, and yeah golus
@fathom schooner level saveas or shemira to 100
so golus is only for the faction bonus? doesn't matter that he dies super quick?
Hey guys I'm stuck on 6-28 any ideas on character choice or character line up or should I farm AFK rewards
@IOV sorry didnt notice your message
and thx
Any help for 7-28
The first photo basically shows everything I got but there's the second
@unreal charm yeah, saveas should handle rest as long as you manage to deal with ankhira
ankhira..? also should I put sav behind brutus or golus?
@gleaming olive reset anhk and max sav
Any help for 4-16?
@final horizon change Ira to savaes to kill the ogi easily
@IOV should I reset my estrillda andhogan then level shemira up and distribute levels equally to may front line heros
also ira legendary lmao
yep, run Hogan and Vedan front, nemora saveas silvanas rear
Okay, I'll swap it around then.
My*
@gleaming olive reset that garbage spider, and level saveas as far as u can
10-8, thoughts?
@fathom schooner having the tanks be highest level slows your progress down, leveling one carry like shemira or saveas to max treshold and then following with other works better most od the time
@nocturne peak yeah, leveling I guess
Ok
@balmy crypt ogi's just a big tanky boy, I guess I just need more levels since I still can't kill him
Figured it could be just that. π
@nocturne peak khasos in the middle Brutus and Lucius swap position
Halp :)
@gleaming olive he needs gear
Don't bother with savaes before 61 @gleaming olive
I can give him Silvina's gear lol.
yeah, do that LOL
He'll end up killing himself if he's not yet lv61
don't bully saveas the savage he's a monster with decent gear. But that is true though, you need him 61
I can sacrifice Silvina levels.
Can you send a picture of the enemies? @gleaming olive
@fallen olive "Ankhira"?? also should I put Sav behind brutus or golus
No in the lineup screen, we need to see where silvina is jumping
I'd say go with Ira Arden nemora vedan Hogan @gleaming olive
You can't do anything about the 4 hypogeans but running wilders will give you a easier time on the Silvinna
@unreal charm behind brutus, his task is to stall opponents and give tht debuff
what do you mean by ankhira
@unreal charm the spider lady opponent
oh, what that's her name? I didn't even know oops
yeah cause she badddddd
Change savaes to arden
Hey guys so I enough resources to give anyone 70 levels who should I give the levels to or how should I distribute it
Saveas is an absolute monster.
@fathom schooner even betwewn hogan and estril IMO
Ok
Well, the lineup change seems to have worked. Thanks guys.
@gleaming olive yeah he is, will probably make you breeze through whole chapter
Yeah he pretty much is.
Well my math was wrong i only got 52 levels is there anyway to farm hero xp
@fathom schooner just afk, unless youre really close to summoning quest. The fast forward for gems is bit questionable use of resources
@fathom schooner have you claimed the "afklaunch" redeeming code?
That gives you 10 hours of xp nd 10 scrolls
eh?
Switch brutus and govus
@unreal charm if you manage to make enemy niru to be last to die you shouls be fine
switching brutus for golus is worse
Think i had him die last though, was bir of clutch
I'm saying switch their spots
?? yes that's what I mean
Oh nvm
eh this one just ain't possible I'm getting completely stomped
Then farm afk rewards and level
no contest, 90% of the time barely one of them dies
Id try fawkes instead of arden
And kings tower
Guess I gotta level up to beat this
And focus on killing vedan while niru is cced
how do I focus on killing someone lol
Switch brutus with that water guy because when vedan uses his super he exposes saveas
@unreal charm put saveas near them π
already kinda had that
Who should I ascend to Legendary? Or hold off for better legendaries?
DC that worked
Saveas?
@fathom schooner
Brutus melted vedan before his active
I'm stuck on this stage .-.
no way i can beat this tower round, right?
You mighy
That one is rough
Might*
Yeahh uhhh my tanks get deleted π
Try switching undead guy with hogan
@grizzled radish can you show the heroes you have further down
Btw take advantage of faction advantage
Shemira op btw
@grizzled radish another to be saved by saveas
Lol
Level down belinda and raine, level either to 81 and put all remaining to saveas
D@mn
Switch saveas to arden ?
whats the best lineup i can make here im 11-35
@grizzled radish saveas to 100
Oki
If you can make another copy by ascending stuff then do that and get him to 120 and after that bring rest of team to 101
I'ma go play AFK be back when i need help ;)
Andy idea how i can beat this?
Whatβs the best team I can make out of this because ya boy struggling
Need a line up for 9-20 please
I'm also on 9 20
My proudest moment so far has been my 6-40 win where i had to keep restarting for saveas vs 3 remaining enemies maybe 20% of time and then get skrag to bug out and do his stompong stuff while hes dead to cc enemy. Must have taken couple hundred tries
ahhh 9-20 is a bitch lol
@pale kettle i know a successful run in a vid i saw had
saveas
brutus
nemora
tasi
arden
but i believe saveas and arden was 121, which makes a big difference esp with saveas
Hey guys I'm stuck on 6-32 any ideas or should I just farm afk rewards
Ah damn π¦
i mean youre basically there, so try it out?
Ill give it a shot
That set up works well for 9-20, you could use Arden/Tasi if you don't have Nemora.
arlek has the vid i saw lol
oh btw Sav doesn't kill Vedan anywhere near fast enough
That's the Nemora Charm version, Tasi could work in her place instead.
@crystal radish not sure if deleveling to 101 and putting all to shem or saveas would work with that since so many annoying things to deal with for single carry
Holy crap it worked! Thanks @gilded fractal
tasi is so freaking good
Indeed she is. 
i really need her
I only have her epic. π
I have no tasi or Nemora. 920 is looking grim 4 days in
Hey guys I'm stuck on 6-32 any tips or should I farm AFK rewards
@pale kettle oh YW : D
@round verge You can def get a Nemora from lab. 
In 3 more days thats my plan
any idea what to do for 11-36 ?
@fathom schooner try to stall with kaz dodgws, arden cc and niru healing to tank bit more and maybe shemira can start ulting
Needs lots of good rng
Dodge*
6-28
Shemira you will need regardless, just try out different things to see what stalls enemy best i guess. Youd want kaz to soak up the damage from enemy saveas with lucky dodges
K
Rng just blessed me lol passed 10-8 finally. π
How can i defeat this
Tip Afk arena luck = skill
Its kind of puzzles finding the conditions to win seemingly impossible match
Keep getting decimated. Any advice?
Level saveas π
should I spend those scrolls here or wait that one hour
And after having the conditions its just spamming reset whenever something doesnt go right, can do maybe 4 starts in the time it might take to watch failed fight to end
@unreal charm click the cars next to 103/100 bar :p
Oh right
Id wait for weekly reset just for the sake of it
also which one?
If you got it coming up in hour
what? weekly reset?
Should I reset everyone except Saveas and Nemora and just pump Saveas? 
@unreal charm weekly quests reset in hour atleast for me, so youll get 20 summons quicker then if you wait
oh wha? how so
@gleaming olive pretty much, you have to keep the others within certain level to be able to level him further.
Hey guys so I'm stuck on 6-36 any tips for my charcter line up or should I just level them
@unreal charm best to go with the faction that has the hero you want to build around. Probably wont be the one you want anyways π
hmm what do you mean ill get 20 summons?
Theres one part of quest to do 20 summons at tavern, so if you wait hour they will count for that
oh ok
Help please!
lucius...
Yep
@gritty sail in that stage, you want to take out healing units like niru and vedan early. i know saveas will target niru if you put him on top left. athalia can too in top left. see if either of them can do enough damage.
Also saveas vs silvina early on can throw lots of potential damage away with dodges from silvina
help friends
would it be better to have arden or nemora? @fallen olive
Saveas 3
@unreal charm nemora most of the time, top tier hero
Lucius 1
hmm thats what ive been running so far, lucius 1 and athalia 5
hm, because I could hope for a lucky nemora pull on those wilders scrolls @fallen olive but idk if it's worth taking the chance.
No idea if there's any other hero i would want tho
since I can get shem soon
@Nory show me full list of heros
I rhink you had most heroes from wilder righr, id keep building them then
No luck.
ok well, I actually wouldn't get the thing from the weekly quests then anyway tho..
Any help?..
I'll just take whatever is next
Pink haired girl (dont know name) 5
Graveborns next
Oh
If you plan on building shem then go with them. You need the copies
I'll do that then. I could get another shem copy. Is there any other good hero from graveborn?
hmm, my team gets dropped like flys
Hmm
@fallen olive
prob asked a lot but how do i beat 5-20, seems like i need huge power spike to get it,
also what should i buy from labyrinth store ? estrilda to upgrade current one or get the girl with poison clouds?
Thoran is great at stalling with his reaurrection
Where does silvana go @nory
okay cool, could He replace golus then? @fallen olive (if i got him lol)
@pallid rune reset heroes to 41 and put all xp to saveas
Thoran ugly 
she goes to belinda
@fallen olive is saveas that good as solo carry ?
thoran kinda epic lookin ngl @vale kraken
Saveas at low level is a shitty hero lol
@pallid runeafter 61 hes a beast
Lucius looking like straight up Prince Schneizel type dude π€
hes not shitty if you can keep him alive.through cc and support. but yes hes way better after 121
I dunno who that is XD
google is your friend.gif
@nory who is the first one to use their ultimate
damn i died with their last character on 1hp, i think i can do it
@pallid rune you can probably get him to 80 and then level othees to 61 and bring him to 100 and lvl others etc
@nory go get them
thank you sir
@Nory younwon?
not yet but i will after a few tries
Nice
unless i happened to get extremely lucky
Lol
Need help with 7-40. What line up would be good?
cant do it lol
Gl with reset yall π
i did it @fathom schooner thanks for the help ^_^
@fallen olive i got 3 copies of niru..
and got this from the normal scrolls .-.
should I make fawkes a legendary? @fallen olive
I wouldnt use raine as food
true
btw, im still not decided. I could hope for a shemira, I could get another Brutus, could get a Nemora, could get a Lucius
@fallen olive sorry for all the pinging ;-; 
Lost as to what to do for this? I've been stuck a couple of days now .-. Not sure what formation or units to run. Its 8-40
@unreal charm haha no problem. I guess the safe bet is to go with your strongest faction
Is that Maulers or Wilders then...?
Just boost saveas harder?
Shemira could also be option
7-40 any tips?
Yeah, he carries hard when overleveled
@pale kettle saveas to 120
Epic angelo from free scroll, guess i cant complain lol
I always hear shemira is op as frick
Should i make any legendary?
belinda is great IMO
Should I make Belinda Legendary? I'm currently running Hogan one of my 2 frontline. If I do this, who should I replace Hogan with?
I have no problem putting lyca on frontline tbh
AH OOPS oh no i dont wanna look I accidentally clicked on a thing and I think it was graveborn @fallen olive
oh!
Whom do I replace now then. Oh alright, night
Who should I Ascend?
still cant beat the stage lol
I think I need a decent lineup, who do I use?
9-20 is killing me
Hey guys! Iβm using the 5 first as a team. Is there a way to improve the team or is the best one I can get right now?
Ideas? replace mirael with arden but lose faction?
@cloud fern I dont have much experience with the deathbringers but the light bearers you have would by more synergistic with the wilders you have. Just give it a try vefore you invest into it
Any tips pls pls pls
swap grez for belinda? faction bonuses go a long way
Any tips? Pls and thx
use hogan rather than niru.
@nova crater Should I go with lucius, belinda, raine and what more? I dont think I have two tanks to do lightbearers and wilders
I meant maulers sorry
Stuck at 6-24: More XP or change my team? (currently using the top 5)
Stuck at 6-28 T^T
any tips?
@split bolt use faction advantage
@near blade i used faction advantages to get me out of 6-28
@silver jungle right now im using faction advantage but still getting melted. Anything else I can change or just go afk?
the only thing i see working for you is mirael
wait wrong person
yeah i guess you should afk @split bolt
theyre far higher leveled than you
ok, thx!
Brutus keeps wrecking me
Need help for 9 20
Any tips? Been stuck a few days.
@unique vapor Switch ur shemira and saveas to the bottom and try then
Suggestions?
Hi, any suggestion?
@supple pelican skrag and vedan tanks. Mid lyca, bottom athalia and top fairy
@fierce kayak Try placing belinda mid since rayne dont meed mid spot
@supple pelican did the tanks die fast?
This is the stat chart
@real rain sorry, Belinda should be mid. I tried and failed again tho. I am thinking in should be under level? Haha
Fairy basicly killed herself (typical) :D
The Vedan heals wayyy too much I canβt kill it in time
Basicly it sometimes comes to rng with crits etc. Try alternating tanks and positions and when you get decently far, just run it like 50 times :D
You should be able to kill him before he ultis
@supple pelican actually scrap that
Shield dude front, belinda top, luca mid, rayne bot and brutilus/sgrak other tank
Ok Iβll try that
If you.manage to kill the frontline with belindas or lycas ults
Can you run it and post stats
Yeah @real rain itβs not looking too good
Damn @supple pelican
Tips? Been stuck on this for a while
The thing im mostly seeing is nobody focusing on upgrading tanks :DD Would suggest geting tanks to legendary first for all :D
Whatβs the best lineup I can make?
Been doing Brutus, Athalia, Tasi, Arden, Saveas
I can get Lucius is legendary but I have to use raine as fodder
@proven finch Then better wait yeah. Shes a good supp for belinda.
@patent flint brutus and hogan as tanks with saveas, fairy and athalia behind.
@patent flint And target hightarget mobs witj athalia. If it looks like she cant handle it or the fight needs more aoe, change to shemira.
@real rain i tried bursting vedan first, i can kill vedan niru and ira but thats it
isabella crits 70k sometimes, basically 100-0 my lucius thru his ult ._.
Iβm stuck on 9-20
@patent flint take out Athalia put in kaz
Kaz Arden Lucius Hogan Belinda @gusty lynx
no shemira? O_O
Try to maximise the faction advantage
Hey fam, I'm stuck on 8-32. Any tips other than AFK?
uhh that didnt work... they got wiped
Stuck on this, any ideas?
Currently stuck at 6-28, running Hogan + Shemira with Belinda, Saveas and Fawkes at the backline
@gusty lynx switch shem and lucius
@tranquil garden thats an ideal lineup given your units tbh. perhaps try using estrilda instead of shemira? estrilda isnt necessarily a tank but maybe the 5 faction bonus will help
sorry, 4
alice did u clear 920
yep yep
Alright, I'll give it a try, another question, is it worth it to sub Nemora inside the team comp? But I'll probably be giving up the faction bonus
or, try warek. i dont know his skills but he seems to be a tank so shrug
@tranquil garden nah i wouldnt, theyd blend nemora since maulers>wilders and theyre so atk heavy
i can kill only 3 of them, isabella crit too hard
any suggestions? stuck on 7-40
hmmm, show me your units
all the usable ones are there
(alice, were you talking to me or kmo?)
was gonna dump all xp into shemira but the other units get murdered in 3 seconds so i had to level them
okay; would that wilder i see cut off below arden be tasi by any chance?
(kmo sorry :p)
no tasi or she be in my comp lol
all good, just checking! π
15-27. Im getting crushed
is seirus
but @crisp whale have you tried replacing raine with arden and removing brutus and putting hogan there instead? and then adding saveas so its like
saveas
lucius
arden
hogan
belinda
Thanks alice! 4 LB team comp worked out great, cleared the stage! π
yay :D
haven't tried that yet, thank you for the suggestion! i'll see how it goes :)
@unique vapor tbh shemira probably cant be on the frontline. can you get saveas to leg by any chance? because if you could, try
belinda
saveas
nemora
lucius
arden
^ my only difference with that comp was i had fawkes instead of nemora. so im hoping nemoras charm can emulate his cc enough.
I have a question.
@crisp whale let me know!!
Are there certain heroes better for pvp than pve?
im missing a lot of fodder for sav
Hard stuck on 8-16 and floor 99, canβt do a thing on peaks of time 3. Any help?
best case scenario i got down to 4v2, lucius died but i just time out vs isabella and nemora
Silvina makes me want to rip out hair
apparently being M+ gives u like 10000 defense or something π€
Is this an okay team if I get more coppies? I really need help... I'm fairly new and could use some help.
@humble panther maybe replace the non elite+ with elite+ in crystal (rickety cart the elite ones) so you can get your heroes all to 120?
@gilded fractal didnt work unfortunately :( i'll wait a few days to see if leveling up does anything though
@unique vapor yeah i get it :/ if you cant get sav to leg he cant tank front line unfortunately (bc of 121 skill) hmmm this is rough. whats the problem you have with this stage? does shemira die too fast, does lucius die too fast, etc.
So, elite+ outside of crystal and elites in?
@crisp whale awe shucks :( yeah that is always a solid plan haha
problem is isabella crits 40k every 10 seconds and basically has 100% crit rate
@humble panther elite + as the 5 in crystal, since they can get others to lvl 120 (even if the others are just elite)
anyone at 50% is instant dead
ah i see. she attacks diagonally and hits shemira right?
Oh wow, will try. Gonna cost me a few gems but I can try
usually hits luc
good luck!
Does my loadout suck I realized this was the place to ask
sometimes shemira and sometimes just 100-0 my saveas
i tried switching shem and sav top too
oh shit i forget shes up there, yeah it would be luc. have you tried swapping them? luc would get blasted by a powerful gb dps
him and shem
yeah, sav cant tank for you rn :[
i charm nemora and she charms her own team and root 2 others so its basically 7 v 1
still lose π€ bc isabella wipes everyone seems balanced
lolol
Hello
each tick of void barrage does 15k π€ seems legit
Anybody wanna help me out
tbh if you got it down to 1 unit once its probably possible for you to beat it. have you noticed any trends that you could exit early on? like lucius dying too early or smth? bc it could come down to you resetting a bunch
yea i will try to get sav to L but cant roll maulers
and yea reset about 50 times now lol
should be able to beat it since others on friend list beat with way less power
@willow island i mean, it depends on the level. personally you dont have enough tanking capabilities though; ezizh/hogan possibly?
How bout some arden?
You guys suck you know like a nigga tryna level up too you know
:|
Alright you donβt suck any more
@willow island level your elite + heroes and put elites in crystal
tasi makes 9-20 ez mode (ish)
yea i roll wilder every rotation and get e ira
Arden fodder
tasi doesnt exist
@rocky rock too much wilder if youre losing.
If u got Brutus you gay cuz your becoming the evil you are trying to defeat
Same if u have shem tbh
if youre doing fine though, they good for you. that wilder combo is super powerful later on so keep them. @rocky rock
lmao frib
Okay. Good to know. So just try to level them up and keep working on them?
Booo metaslave
Can anyone help me make a better team?
If anybody needs a good comeback to an arguement go look in the meme section
@rocky rock yeah! but forewarning, if you struggle in late ch 6 you may have to try to make a comp with more of the other factions. the wilders are fragile bbs
I'm struggling in early chapter 9
Okay. Fair enough. I have a few other heroes in the crystal shrine as backup.
@rocky rock but tasi/arden/lyca and tasi/arden/nemora (<especially mid game)are an insanely good combo
Raine is like the worst person in the game
Fawkes, tasi, arden works wonders
No vedan is worst person, he used 2 little kids man
been stuck a few days. any advice?
Okay. I'll work on leveling up toons and trying to get past that stage 6 stuff
@misty frigate hm. you have some interesting legendaries. i suppose try
miriel
lucius
arden
hogan....?
fawkes
did you feed belinda to miriel x)
@rain geode put fawkes to work man
ah switch arden and miriel
Can someone help me how to beat this? For some reason I'm stuck on a non boss level.
@shy mirage replace numiso with arden
I tried that earlier. Didn't work
ah but then you lose any combo
Oh it looks like people get stuck on 9-19 too lol
perhaps try moving belinda into the middle? then your two dps can target vedan, who can be a bitch to kill @shy mirage
is there anything I should change about my formation? e.g. replace different heroes + move heroes
If I put Belinda in the middle, she always targets the skeleton graveborn first
belinda whyyy lol
Lol
Any recommendations on who I should level/put in crystal slots?
@elfin elbow Maybe add some Graveborn in your lineup, especially Shemira. They deal more damage to Lightbringers
Currently on 8-16/floor 99 if it helps aid decision
@shy mirage is it worth adding graveborns if I lose the faction bonus?
Level ur highest tier heroes so crystal heroes can bypass tier level limits
Right, but I've only got 8 crystal slots atm, mostly seeking a who to use suggestion
@elfin elbow Maybe replace Brutus with Thoran and Nemora with Shemira if you have
Any advice vs this lvl like stuck for 3-4 days now
Silv sav @humble panther tasi Arden khasos
@humble panther do lb wilder mix
@shy mirage okok thanks! :>
@still oar put them in the slots?
@pale kettle 164k v 225 k. That is heavy
@gilded fractal wait i beat it after spamming like 100 times lmao
180k* but yeah 15k difference pfff, and don't see unless I spend money how I can get past this π
How bout these kinda difference? XD
@pale kettle You need a faction bonus. Also Lightbringers deal more damage to Maulers, try putting more of them
@humble panther except tasi you can choose whomever to level up. The rest crystal. Oh nemora too. Put her in crystal.
@unique vapor AY BET
@pale kettle no 225 with faction bonus
@still oar Rn my crystals are Golus, Khasos, Mirael, Seirus, Estrilda, NEmora, Thane, and Tasi
Aha @still oar i seee pffff
A tip for those who use tasi, dont rush her ult
@humble panther take estrilda out she's still too low. Use whomever e+ to push beyond 100.
@gilded fractal shemira ult crit super hard somehow wiped 3 of them π€·
Time it when enemy is about to ult, she can cancel enemy ults
@gilded fractal thanks but that team comp didn't quite work πΆ should I try something else?
based shem
Out of my current heroes who do you suggest I actually level?
@misty frigate hmm, ill be honest you had really odd heroes. i dont think i remember a lot of cc or good dps that are high ascended. so id work on building saveas and arden, who are both blue heroes and thus relatively easy to get up. its a decent place to start
Thanks
or did you have arden? idk i remember your saveas was only elite though. np! :)
Yeah I do have arden
@humble panther you love Mauler so Bel. Hog. Silv.golus sav
Should I ascend anything?
And you can fodder golus to make sav l+ later
@still oar I don't specifically love them, but I have the most of them and LB at e+ or higher
@humble panther you should try level up diff faction so you could ascend easier
Only 3 GB, 2 Wilders, 4 Maulers, and 5 LB at e+ or higher
@misty frigate also, since i didnt see that you had belinda,whos the mage everyone gets after 7 days, i assume you fed her; a good piece of advice is that its never worthwhile to feed ascended heroes (the white bordered ones in the catalog/portraits). they will be the only ones you can use late game since 99% of the leg heroes (gold bordered) will fall off
Basically level up (not crystal) heroes that u need overleveled than the others. Like tanks and supercarries such as shem and saveas
@humble panther yes level your highest ascencion. For your level better level up legendary tier than ascended tier. Level your saveas and Silvina up beside your 2 leg lb. And the other one whomever highest. Doesn't really matter
ok, ty
Way too tough
@stiff kraken 9-20?
Yup
Yeah man stuck therr for a few days too
L+ silvina
I recommend you get rid of raine asap
@left patrol no
Almost all ranged agi heroes are better
@left patrol no she huge damage support
That what I thought
Umm fawkes gives cc + debuff siveas better damage
Raine still has her moments to shine though. No need to shut her down lol.
@left patrol she makes you score higher damage and ult faster
Shes good in guild biss only imo
@left patrol no
raines okay, but tbh there are better heroes to have on your team in 95% of stages. or better heroes in general
Yes... You see how dumb single word answers are
Agreed alice shes better than some but worse than a lot
Read her 3rd skill
why have a damage buff only when you can have a defense reducer (damage buff) stunner energy recoverer, and self healer like lyca
and, with lyca comes insane cc/support units to develop a faction bonus around
the haste one?
@gilded fractal yes diff heroes for diff team. I am just against to get rid of her
Im not saying fodder her just replace asap
Like i said she has her uses especially vs guild boss
ah i see. well she shouldnt be fed yeah :) but shes not anything too special. imo shes not good enough at what she does to prioritize raising her over other lb
Did I say that?
Im actually hardstuck been like this for 3 days getting 3-4 lvls on belinda
Should i spend abit to be able to progress
Im at 8-8 in campaign
no, but thats what the other guy was saying. that the person should replace raine in picking units to work on.
because mekal didnt say to feed her lol. you got too aggressive too fast.
Did any1 see my post π
sorry @whole spoke whats the stage? :)
Wut. Guy's asking bout ascencion. Get rid in ascencion means fodder
like the enemy formation
Nah i mean i cant get ascension on tge right heroes
hey its all good, i can see why you thought it. it was a vague wording.
Could anyone help me? I just dont know what teams to try anymore or if AFK is the only way to go rn.
My team still deals 2m dmg on guild hubts
@nova crater you dont have nearly enough dps :( of the units i can see, your best bet is belinda
Fawke top leff luciis front top nemora bottom left back
This isnt the team i usually run this is just me trying to get creative
ah i get it x) but yeah, you need pretty good dps for that level. since niru and vedan can self heal. personally, i went full ham tank/tank dps/dps/dps with shemira tanking silvina haha.
@nova crater lyca lucius belinda fawkes and ankihra
Idkhiw to spell thise names lol
Imo that comp looks like a good comp vs that enemy team though
About to spend a solid 150$ to get 50 faction scrolls and tons of shit
omg lolli noooo
(but if you do show us everything)
This game i ment to invest
Help please I dunno what to do now
They builted it slow and they made sure to make faction scrols only available via a visa
@left patrol that resulted in epic failure
help pls
@nova crater ss position please
@pale kettle assassin girl in middle might help
silvina ok
switch with who tho
Switch belinda with ankihra
@pale kettle use your crystal and put saveas in there
@pale kettle use resonating crystal
oh
@pale kettle need to start using it
@nova crater Seirus Lucius Arden/Fawkes Lyca Belinda.
@olive thorn Hi Vlab! β¨
oh ok @stiff kraken but who do i swap saveas with, silvina?
@olive thorn I need you more then ever right now @pale kettle yeah
ok th
sure tell me
I can ascend one light hero.. Should I ascend Belinda or Lucius?
luciu
@fierce kayak Lucius.
Belinda is a better tank than hogan right now
@fierce kayak lucius imo
I gotta afk for a while then @olive thorn
I have no ways to get crystals atm as it stuck here and on my floor
y but actually u need to up a legendary+ one by one
God, Silvina's shield is RIDICULOUS when she's a boss
that's the life man
@pale kettle It's okay. If you want a higher faction bonus you can also try Brutus Lucius Belinda Fawkes Saveas.
@fast charm You can try Brutus Hogan Saveas Silvina and Niru/Ira first, and continue building up Arden. Use him when you need crowd control assistance already. Pull 2,700 diamonds until you get more heroes, and redo your lineup from there if you feel it necessary. Get Brutus to 61 asap, and then pour the levels into Saveas if he'll be your carry.
Thank you!
Wait for more levels?
Should I switch out Ezizh for Estrilda or anything else to change?
@unreal ember chapter 8?
@upper path 9-20
Oof okie
Any advice for this?
Should i break saveas or lucius to 121 first?
@mint bay lucius saveas really inly shines once you start getting high crit items
Lucius is a soft carry
Wrong
That's been told many times. So that information is going around is false.
Utility>dps>tank usually
I was thinking lucius as well, I'm on 10-20 right now and they got 110k more power then me lol
Lucius heal + shield is very strong
Sorry again, at my level.. I should also start to Ascend heroes already right? Rather than just leveling up and wait for more pulls to determine who to ascend. Cos I realised I can ascend Arden too..
When I level I personally do carry > tank > dps
Can someone help me with 8-24? π
@hoary crest thats A LOT of cc. Being that the enemy is mosty physical famage i would say swap out arden\nemora for dps
What should I do?
@left patrol is seirus good for dps?
@pale rover wow.. make sense. I also assume dps is carry? So brutus is also carry? Shemira and saveas I know is carry..
@fierce kayak Yes, those can all be considered great carries.
@hoary crest no hes not hes more of a tank\cc character
@hoary crest dont be afraid to mix factions most of the time itll be the thing that saves you
@left patrol tysm
@hoary crest If you want to use Seirus, you can try Ogi Seirus Belinda Athalia and Arden.
@stiff orchid Replace Nemora with Fawkes. See if that helps.
Ok I will
Okay nooby question how do I know which heros are dps π
@pale roverhaha k
@hoary crest Most of the int and agi based characters are considered dps/crowd control. The str ones are usually tanks, or can be considered off tanks. If you read their skill descriptions, it will help you figure out which is which.βΊοΈ
@pale rover TYYY
Ive been stuck for a week and i dont know what to do
Any tips?
@twilit stump Brutus Lucius Shemira Saveas Arden/Fawkes. 121 (your opponents) is a sizeable jump from 120 because it adds another skill boost to their tree.
Thanks @pale rover I completed chapter 8 π
@stiff orchid Awesome news, congratulations.
@split bolt I have a general guide up in the pinned post for how to team build for an enemy Brutus, kindly read.
@summer iron Why is your Estrilda level 1?
My bad I just change
Kindly send all of your heroes
@pale rover Hold On
@summer iron Please send it here so I can compare the two photos side by side, thanks.
I seem to suck at this because the top row is what I use and I lose to teams that are over 10k lover power.. Should I just reset team?
@deep comet Lucius Seirus Silvina Arden Belinda/Ira, for now.
@pale kettle That's because you're not using any tanks or crowd control. Who are your other heroes?
ill show
@pale rover will give that a go, thank you 
@pale kettle Hogan and Athalia/Ezizh at the front.. Thane Belinda and Tasi at the back.
ty
Need help trying to push out if chapter 9
Theres no kaz
Tried assassins but they didnβt burst enough/too squishy
@wild meteor Athalia. You can put her in the middle and it will pull Khasos closer. But then.. it might kill your other people if he's nearer..π€
Over who
Tips to pass this
@wild meteor I think the main problem is your team is mostly wilders and the enemy are all maulers. They're all weak to maulers. Who are your other heroes?
@wild meteor Hogan Golus in front, Arden Athalia Saveas at the back.
Testing
@wild meteor If it still doesn't work, it may just be level differences.
Best line up ? 
Hi ! Any ideas to improve my team ? Would it be a good idea to add some graveborns or wilders soon ? (I can get a leg+ grezhul now or a leg+ shemira in 1month, and a leg+ arden now and elite+ nemora in 2 weeks)
The spam 
Was also hoping to get some help, should I worry about auras rn I'm stuck on stage 6-36
Any help?
@tribal girder try brutus/estrilda(or thoran or vedan) frontline fawkes/angelo/saveas backline. why did you legendary angelo tho?:p
at least angelo is decent in ch 6 bc much of the mauler threats are phys damage (dont tell me you fed belinda though)
Dont have Belinda yet and I dont know why I did it but I know I didnt use any good peeps to do it
I'll get Belinda as a reward in 3 more days and I remember now I used an angelo, morvus, and mireal to legendary angelo and did it for the library
Should I L Belinda? Hogan is one of the tanks I currently use
Would ulmus or Seirus be a good swap?
ah okay thats fine! but yeah, angelo is actually fairly useful for ch6 too @tribal girder
@fringe plume imo not until you can properly replace him. but try seirus or ulmus out, if they die too fast hold on until you can get an offtank like tasi or self healer like saveas lvl 121+
@gilded fractal oh and thanks again for the help didnt think to use angelo, on paper he seems meh compared to nemora heals but then again the faction bonus hurts her bad
@tribal girder yeah np! angeloss ult is actually petty damn useful for ch 6 esp since hes lb with is good against maulers
@gilded fractal what does offtank mean. I use Tasi, but in backline. Iβm in Chapter 8 rn
if she can take the first 2-3 hits as a frontline, she will teleport and lose enemy focus for a while. so she lasts longer than you might think, enough for lucius or nemora or etc to ult and heal her
trh it out!
Ok Iβll try Seirus and see if he is good thx
try tasi in frontline too ;p
Any ideas on how to beat this? 8-40 been stuck a few days π¦
@pale kettle i dont think you have enough dps. try replacing nemora with saveas and move saveas to the bottom and arden in the middle
Ok! Iβll give it a shot
try to make shemira have the lowest defense so silvina targets her
I donβt think I can do that unless I level up others first
@pale kettle not even if you swap equipment?
Alright, I don't need to swap heroes in or our, the lineup is fine, but the FORMATION needs help.
Grezhul and Demon lad are my frontliners - Silvinia wars, so no need to worry about her position.
This is for arena, so where would ve best for archer dude and the last guy?
Yeh
try that
No gear on Shem and full gear on the old guy
damn
Shem still has like 40 defense on old guy
Is saveas better than Shem btw, i donβt know what my general team should be
if you can legendary him, definitely give him all of shems levels
he should be your carry for now not shem, but he only truly becomes carry after lvl 121
When do I bring Shem in
161+
Also what should the rest of my team look like
All the shem levels
but shes situational before then. i like her still as silvina bait since she can tank it decently
but not really..... before 161+ theres typically better team comps
Hey guys I'm stuck on 6-36 any ideas on character choice or line up or should I level
Canβt seem to get any gems to summon food for legendary saveas so ig Shem is staying for a while
ah i also like her mage silence. useful secondary cc. but when silvina isnt in the picture since im still <161 i stick to fawkes and arden for cc
Try Arden somewhere to cc lion dud
fair enough! good luck. i still do think u need a bit more dps, but then youre golden :)
yeah, thats often the case!
@Justin which backline should i switch Arden witb
@fathom schooner replace ferael i believe
K
if you dont have anymorre good mage armor then replace shemira
Any ideas for this btw Alice? Those lion guys and axe guys just melt everything
lol oof
Big oof indeed
belinda would be perfect for this level, the more LB the better. replace raine maybe? or shemira if you dont have enough mage armor (sorry for always suggesting you replace her x))
Yeah lol starting to think you have something against Shem π
Any tips here? Nothing seems to be working. I just pulled Belinda and have to wait 20 hrs till I can put her on the lvling stone
Ahhh Belinda got melted too before anyone could use powers
Any tips here?
Any tips for my best line up? Stuck on this level
Iβve got Arden, Iβll put him on the leveling stone too
Iβve got these three
Shiii you got belinda she is really useful
Got her from the daily login today
yep he said belinda will be added when the crystsl resets right?
Yup
Dont wait just pay 100 diamonds
Should I add mirael too?
Iβm fine with waiting, donβt wanna spend too many diamonds
Ok
consider (top to bottom) hogan/ezizh athalia/arden/belinda
Mirael, hogan, belinda athalia and numisu should work in ch6
I used lucius instead of mirael cause she is useless
:[] athalia for frontline or smth?
No shemira? She carries me and does pretty well against almost everyone
Should I delevel shemira then
What is in your resonating?
I need help for stage 5-20 please
hm, just feel like the others would help more. maybe replace athalia if you dont mind losing the bonus?
Alright, Iβll see what works later, ty guys!
good luck my guy!
Maulers (to mythic Brutus) or wilders for faction pull & tavern tokens?
Why the hell is your shemira level 80 while rest are 50 @stiff orchid
Sheβs been my carry for every chapter pretty much
Saveas better till 161
:[]well that will stop soon haha
I would think wilders but im not high enough level so... @white raven
Cause youll lose two of your top 5βs
Tough one, could get Brutus stronger or Tasi Nemora Lyca
@final lagoon I know wilders would def be the more logical option but Iβm not rly using any wilders for now.. thatβs y
It's between Brutus and Tasi
hmm i think wilders. tasi/lyca/arden or tasi/nemora/arden are two pretty ridiculous combos i heard?
it could be good to boost them
or try to at least lol
Yeah ^^
Trying get another few more maulers hero so as to feed my current saveaus to Brutus.
Thatβs y Iβm in a dilemma now...
Whatβs my best lineup? Got 6 spots open in the crystal
Can reset levels etc
Stuck on this
Who has the best 121?
Hi, idk which backliner should i use, ferael or ezizh
What should i use as my team? Stuck at 5-12
Should i up lucius, or keep the fodder for belinda, or maybe some other hero?
@torpid stirrup up Lucius first
Should i ascend niru using silvina or its waste? I am stack on 5-36 for days..
I am not even using him
This is my line up
@woeful haven boy u can't ascend elite to elite plus with other heroes
U need to use some light characters at this stage
I'll be honest the bonus damage is a way bigger deal than I expected it to be. 61 Ligh heroes do about as good as 81 not light against maulers ( buuuut I am still progresing with graveborn for now .shrug)
I can ascend that blue hero to purple with silvina and then two purple into purple plus, HM?
Yeah you cant ascend with other hero's, only the same.
@woeful haven then show us that ss
Only if your elite+ and you want to ascend them to legendary...
@woeful haven u mean that. No Silvina is better than niru
Yeah silvana just one shots every one
Hm.. So no progress for days :-D
Honestly, as cool as she is she starts to underperform at around level 100 from what I can see. The ult does have amazing damage, but nothing else she does is of that much use, which is a shame but I guess I should prepare to replace her soonish
But now I have bonuses for using 3 and 2 same heroes.. With hogan I lose it
@woeful haven isn't better to using Silvina than vedan. Vedan Excell if he's over leveled, no?
I don't know, I am in game for week. That's why I asking here :-D
@woeful haven yeah vedan carries if he's overleveled. Try replace IRA with silvina
But i have no purple silvina.. Only if I sacrifice niru
Replace Hogan with the blonde boy and your top row is a solid team I'd say
@woeful haven u have..
@woeful haven replace IRA with Silvina. She will attack ankhira. Resonate her.
@viscid pasture ok thank you
I don't think that azizh is good early lvls
Well can rasonate her in 24 hours
@woeful haven that is unfortunate.
Ye :-D not sure how it helps but we will see. Ira got insane dmg
Maybe u can pay 20 gems and reset ur blue mage ... @woeful haven
Which of the 4 maulers should i ascend and who should i sacrifice to do it?
@warm cape so what should i use instead of ezizh?
@warm cape you are right
@dire flower maybe hogan and the blonde as frontline
And when will be ezizh good for me to use?
@shrewd hull none. Ascend saveas but wait for fodder
Aight, thanks!
@dire flower 121 azizh is good but u may still need to ascend him
Replace your 3 wilders with the 3 elite lightbearers you have maybe? @proud grove
Ok
Is this worth?
How much is that at dollars?
@warm cape ah did it. Many thanks
15
That's pretty good ithin
Ithink* cause u got generated elite and leg gear and 1580 vip points
@summer iron that will cost u 25 dollars normally ithink
There leg armor is store
Not worth right?
@cinder aurora but still he can get whatever elite he wants right?
Try saveas down. And check pinned for chap 6 guide
Lol that's a thing 
My mages died so fast. Will leveling solve the problem? Or I need specific units?
@vague totem shem isn't good as a frontline at this lvl
Yea leveling solves every problem
I'm wondering if I have too much dps heroes.
Should I aim for getting Nemora or Tasi to Legendary and swap out someone? Also not really sure about Skreg, but he seems to work decently by giving the faction buff.
I'd rather level saveas
@light elm should I retire shem/veldan or put him in the crystal?
@distant blade saveas should kill ira first
@royal silo level heroes you can get to elite+ and chuck the rest into crystal
@warm cape yeah, I did aware of that and put in back line away from other mages.
That backline is insane. Any suggestions?
I need recomendation
@wintry cedar a generic team would be hogan belinda Fawkes grezhul silvina
anyone disagree with the 2 tier lists? Seems like everyone agrees with them generally on hero strength even if they haven't seen the tier list themselves
@muted stream if saveas kills all wilders chuck brutus down there and try to charm enemy brutus and root him
Try nemora mid then to charm him instead
Also i think i should replace arden
Thoughts? Stuck on 9-20
He got interupted anywhere i put him so he cant root
@muted stream Use Athalia to pull Vurk behind Brutus.
If you have lyca use her she can be amazing
@mossy nova who is there at 9 20
@pale rover hmmm
Just try it @pale rover. He run right back to the backline
Doesn't look like you can change anything atm. Saveas isn't at legend too
Any idea here?
You could try silvina for vedan and put shem fornt, but it seems like a bad idea even as I'm trying lol
I can get hin to legend but id have to consume a rare hero
Don't
Guess my team is just underleveled
@woeful haven anyone except niru, probably belinda or shemira or vedan and get some levels
Should i focus maxing my shem to 180 or spread out the exp evenly?
