#lineup-help
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Even if I can L+ Brutus, and just L Saveas I should go Saveas first?
@marsh orchid Ah I see, sorry I didn't read that part. Then definitely go with L+ Brutus. But the usual levelling flow is carry, then tanks, then dps.
@tranquil garden You can ascend him if he dies too fast. He's a decent tank to hold Brutus in place early on when there are no other alternatives.
@pale rover Got it thanks! I’m currently running Brutus Saveas Arden Nemora Lyca. After I L+ Brutus, should I use faction scrolls for Wilders? Or still Mauler to get fodder for Saveas?
Got it! Thanks so much!
@marsh orchid Good team, although Saveas may eventually run out of steam being in front and die. Nemora can situationally be put in front early on. I do Brutus Grezhul Lyca Tasi and Arden on my account (switching with Nemora when needed), and I pulled maulers first until I got both Saveas and Brutus to L+ and then now I'm saving all my faction scrolls for wilders.
What's Isabella used for and is she ever going to edge out shemira
@blissful solstice She's also a damage dealer. I'd pick Shemira, personally. You can also get more opinions in #classic-questions
Thx bb < 3
@pale rover Ideally, would love to have Tasi in place for Arden but haven’t gotten her.
@marsh orchid I use them both. Later stages you'll be dealing with a gigantic power gap so you'll find crowd control is more important than ever.☺️
I think my current power gap is a 500k difference if I'm not mistaken
Should I L+ Arden now? I do have enough fodder to L+ him now, but was saving fodders for Nemora/Lyca
I went with Arden first because he's the easiest to get to L+. Then Nemora, then Lyca. Earlier on Lyca's only utility is haste. Eventually she will replace Saveas when you outgrow him and become your agi dps if you're doing wilder trio. @marsh orchid
@pale rover Got it, thanks so much 😃
Sure! Good luck @marsh orchid ☺️
For anyone stuck on 8-32
@pale rover ty for advice I am farming with new line up
@winter token Congratulations, glad to hear you like your new team.
Chapter 8-36 best team comp for this?
@dire edge You can try Lucius Skregg Belinda/Shemira Arden Saveas. No team bonus, though, because that one definitely calls for crowd control. It could also be levels/gear hindering you, can you kill 3-4 of them before they kill you?
@undone plover No idea what 8-36 looks like.😅
This is 8 36
I need help too but I can’t send a photo of everyone I have. I’ve got my lineup as Brutus Hogan Saveas Mirael Belinda, recommend some changes or heroes I should add/remove? Currently stage 6-5 if that matters to this.
@undone plover Try Golus Hogan/Lucius Belinda Fawkes and Saveas.
Kk
@real valve That sounds like an alright team composition, but you may need to replace Mirael with a crowd controller. Tasi, Fawkes, Arden.
Fawkes is a really good counter for brutus in chap 6
Ok thanks for the help I’ll go fix it up
@real valve If you have Fawkes, definitely him for the team bonus. Good luck.
Best lineup and what should I work on? New player at 3-28 here
Omg it worked you are a genius @pale rover
@proud grove You can do Seirus Golus Saveas Arden and Ira first, for a team bonus.
@proud grove try hogan seirus in front, sav isabella silv back
golus and arden are pretty lame low level
@undone plover Congratulations! Crowd control is super important so build them up when you can.
Is isabella good
@fervent coyote He was asking what to work on.😅
he was asking best lineup too
Im truing to abuse saveas
Sure, just listen to him @proud grove that early on it doesn't really matter who is used.☺️
sure it does, just because it's easy doesn't mean you can't try to be optimal
You have your opinion, I have mine. That's about it!
if someone is asking for advice you try to give the best subjective answer to them, not your opinion
Chill
I'm not going to dignify this further, because every lineup made is an opinion of the person answering.☺️ If anyone else needs advice, just post ss!
need line up to pass 9-24
advice for 11-20?
@stiff ridge why not swap position of khasos and kaz and nimisu with Arden to take advantage of the faction?
Hi again! It seems you are strong enough for this level. Might pit Ezizh instead of Shemira and maybe Tasi instead of Belinda. They are dying in seconds anyway :-). @late gyro
@stiff ridge @balmy crypt Has great advice. You can also replace Numisu with Nemora and see what will work.
i tried, sil 1 shot whatever nemor or numisu
Maybe change out so your only mage is Arden... He might be able to survive it?
what should i replace for my team?
@verbal prairie What about lineup? Ive tried many different combinations, but it usually ends up with Saveas being the last alive, and the enemy team having 4 left alive
Brutus/Ira maybe @stiff ridge
@late gyro I think you should put Saveas in front of that little guy and Brutus top. Also put Ezizh down below .
@late gyro why not change ezizh to khasos/skreg since he's only elite? Plus you'd get the 10% faction buff
Yes. You can try that as well.
Ive tied that. Ive also tried using saveas, brutus, lucius, khasos, skreg to get the 4th faction buff
doesnt help much, prob just have to afk i guess
But in general your team is weak for 11.
I think my team is a bit fucked, I dont have a wilder synergy like most others on ladder etc does
24 -32-36 will destroy your team even faster sadly
@late gyro Your team is decent..you just have useless Shemira and Belinda for now
Since the enemy is mainly maulers why are you running 1 lightbringer? Maybe add belinda
Their dmg and hp are too low and Khasos will kill your backline with 1-2 hits
Tried using belinda as well but she does 0 damage and dies instantly
Like I said :-)
I can buy one of the lab heroes just dunno which to get...6-20.
You could ascend some Hogans instead of her and put some fat to sustain Saveas
But right now you should try again and focus on other than Saveas heroes. He won't help you even at 160 because other die instantly. @late gyro
Make Brutus 141 first and then other heroes @late gyro
Alright thanks!
@maiden cargo Your team lacks power. Don't buy anyone yet. They won't help you much. Wait for copies and level up your current heroes.
ye...mirael slaps when she crits tho...but i'm def underleveled for this part xd.
Help. Stuck in this chapter.
@gritty sail Replace Khasos with Arden/Fawkes. Try putting Athalia in front of Niru or Vedan.. I'm not sure which one she needs to pull in to kill faster. All of those backliners hurt.
managed to get past 9-20 using nemura tank(lol) but now the problem is that she dies easily to the silvina (9-24)
Still no luck. Silvina kills Arden immediately
Do you think I just need to AFK? I have very low might compared to enemy. @pale rover
@gritty sail I think so. Your team isn't bad altogether, a few tweaks here and there. Also don't forget to check their gear.
@placid needle Whatever works, is all that matters.👍🏻 Do you have Arden? If yes, try him in place of Nemora.
thanks @pale rover
Any suggestion for 7-40?
@pale kettle Hogan Lucius Belinda Tasi/Arden Saveas
@pale kettle Ezizh is pretty soft early on, which other tanks do you have?
@pale kettle Have you tried Ogi or Hogan? Hogan for a team bonus, Ogi because wilders are strong against graveborn and you have him further ascended.
unfortunately i didnt built him. but somehow i also got through 9-24 still using nemura bait
@pale rover i have tried both but i whant ogi becuse max lvl is 100 for normol elite and i need elite+ all of them to play the chapter and also i use ogi for damage against graveborns
I need a good wilder mage to replace belinda
@pale kettle Wilder mage? Like Tasi?
Guys what should i do i'm stuck really hard
would say just factional/power disadvantage
what kind of team should i make from this to beat stage 6-36? stuck there for nearly a week... https://i.imgur.com/LfI3Kzm.png
mostly im doing something like lucius+hogan in front and then saveas + nemora/arden + shemira/belinda behind
but lucius and hogan tend to die almost instantly anyway.......
6-36 for a week damn
the only time lucius survives long enough to use his skill is when nemora lands a charm on brutus, so that he fks off for a couple seconds :/
what you're already doing with hogan/luc sav/nemora/bel is good, have you tried rearranging them?
ye i tried every possible arrangement
i tried nemora+arden, i tried 5 DPS team, nothing worked so far
do you have fawkes?
nope
ah shame, he's a staple for brutus
all i have is in that pic i posted. yeah i read about his skills, they look awesome
hogan is a shitty tank its like hes not even doing anything. i dont think i have anything better though
hmm if luc dies too fast try skreg in his place
lucius dies right as his energy bar fills. if i could upgrade him to legend+ and 120 then he would survive... hogan on the other hand dies within 2 seconds :/
Should I take out eziz and put in Belinda?
Or any other lineup advice is appreciated 😃
@versed forge what is the other team in 6-36?
if brutus does his spin to win, its insta-rip for whoever is there.
6-36 is brutus+golus up front and saveas+akhira+arkadios in the back
golus 2-shots hogan, brutus spin to wins lucius and then everybody else dies
ok I literally just beat 6-36
skreg hogan shem khasos sav in that order
try bumping your elite+ to 101
good point, thatll take a few days, or i can use the pentagram hmm
reset luc
i got a skreg, ill try that too
@vagrant shale If you put in Belinda you can do Brutus Lucius Belinda Saveas Arden.. although there won't be a team bonus. Which faction do you prefer to build a team with?
Any way to beat this or should I just wait and level everyone up
at what level does Shemira start to shine? around 90-100 i still feel that my Belinda is stronger?..
I’m invested in Shemira, Sav, mainly. If I have Lucius, Belinda, and then Estrilda might work?
@vagrant shale Estrilda is still soft early on. You could put her in the backline, if you like. That means Brutus Lucius Saveas Belinda and Estrilda for the bonus.. but keep in mind that there's no crowd controller.
@fervent coyote didnt work, probably need more levels... skreg gets 3 shotted by golus
hmm could be that
@supple ruin Just afk for a bit to rank up, cause your too low for your characters, also level up the equipment that you have on really helps, also put the vampire guy(forgotten his name) in front instead of athalia as she’s an assassin which is backline
my team was 101 101 100 88 81
@pale rover That’s completely true no one would be CCing, but I have had a squishy experience with supports.
yeah thats considerable... im about 10 levels behind on one hero
maybe once i bring hogan to 101 or something itll work... oh well ill just wait another few days fun game btw 🤡
oh well that's all the advice I can give with certainty, maybe others might have better ideas
Need help pass this stage
@vagrant shale Get as far as you can with just a fast burn team while building up a crowd controller in the background. Ideally it would be Fawkes since you have a partial lightbearer team, but a 3-1-1 bonus would suffice (Arden is the easiest to build up, and you already have him at L).
@blazing stratus You will need to level. Brutus and Saveas are both weak to lightbearers, so they take even more damage. Try to replace Athalia with Arden as well so you have some crowd control.
Ok thank you
hi
is myline up is good? which team should I pair new hero
I can buy shemira soon is it good to team up with dark new hero?
@minor totem For now.. you can do either:
Lucius Grezhul Silvina/Thane Ezizh Shemira
Lucius Grezhul Silvina Thane Shemira (team bonus)
Lucius Golus Saveas Thane Ezizh/Angelo (team bonus)
Build up your Arden while you aren't using him yet, as he's great crowd control. Sub out Angelo if you decide to use him for the team bonus as soon as you have another purple lightbearer (preferably Fawkes, can use Belinda or temporarily Estrilda).
@pale rover thank you
Is it just afk to rank up or anything I need to do?
@grave walrus Pretty much! Your team's actually fine, but just keep in mind that lightbearers are weak to graveborn so you'll have to definitely gear and level. There's also a significant difference between 120 to 121 because new skill unlock.
120 is max I can go with Brutus, just waiting to be able to ascend stuff to elite+ for him. And thank you
@grave walrus if i was you i would make that Ira to Elite + (if you have the fodder) and change it with athalia
That reduce healing effect is really helpful
@grave walrus Yes. I meant the opponent is at 121 vs your locked Brutus, that also makes a difference.☺️ You can definitely also try @fallow egret good advice. Ira against Nemora and Niru is a smart bet.
I’ll try it out and see how it goes, thank you both for the help!
Any help? Silvina op
This is my lineup. Any tip or where to focus on?? My account is now almost 3 days old:))
@azure needle put ur mage in frontline to bait that silvina so ur saveas can kill her (and brutos at backline mid) thats how i manage to pass when there's silvina 😂
@chilly briar for now top 5 is okay
Okey nice. Thankss
Hello all. Can you suggest who should i buy in labyrinth? I wanted shemira, but my luck for draws is with lightbringers. Should i buy Estrilda?
@azure needle try to put tasi instead of bel, and switch Brutus post with hogan
Any comp idea please ? :(
What should be best use/level?
@fluid hollow you are early in the game so it's too fast to say you are blessed with LB, maybe nemora will helps you better
Well shemira is good, but you need her at high lvl, like 120-160 to be good
161+ to be excellent
@cobalt oriole Brutus, grezhul, lyca, arden, ferael
@near mist ok i'll try it 🤗
@woeful haven
For now
Ira, Vedan, Thoran, Niru, Arden/Mirael
Tho i recommend arden more
@near mist thank you.
@near mist ty
Sure suree
I'm stuck :(
@cobalt oriole 15-34? 😂 😂 😂
That's hell buddy, and later 15-40
Try
Arden, nemora, lyca, brutus, lucius/estrilda
@near mist no, 15-16 :(
In my case, my shemira do all the work
Sad that our difference stalls us apart
Maybe try that lucius + nemora combo
Hell gap between lvl160 and 161 T.T
the dust needed is so annoying
Lucius dies so fast ><
:) I am stack at 5-36. Not sure what I can do more then be afk in this game :-D
11-40 is a bitch send help
been using ulmus, reine, lucius, thane, and nemora line-up for a while
should i change someone?
Tips for 9.20? I'm stuck
@stuck dust arden and nimisu change to belinda and fawkes?
tried that
Help pls. Stuck on 8-40 for 3 days alr
Use a lot of cc
Show more of ur roster also show enemies
Anyone can give advice pls 11-20
Man there isnt much you can do with ur roster. Maybe go for a formation buff
I’ve tried a lot of lineups already
What's ur arden lineup?
Main problem is Silvina going to kill my backline
When I put serius as tank he dies too quickly so I didn’t try going for a wilders formation
Try angelo instead of nemora
For formation buff, i think silvinas killa hwr anyway so better go for a formation buff than a nemora who dies too quickly
Ok I’ll give it a try
Aby ideas?
Use tasi fawkes amd arden for some cc good fun
I’m stuck at the same stage. Need help :/
Oh well not same stage, but close to same heroes lol
@torpid goblet reset everyone else but saveas and pump him to max everyone else should be around 101+
Overlevel saveas XD
Gotcha, I’ll try that
@vale kraken👌
Need some help for this stage
Any suggestions on what to do with this mess?
can't beat this, i know i'm short 30k powerpoints but man, is there any way? 😂
pls
@turbid kraken
Try Fawkes instead of Nemora
Try placing Nemora bottom so she charms enemies Ogi
And level your Saveas
tried both, still failed, gotta level my guys i guess 
If I used 3 lghtbringer hero does my grave get the bonus?
I'm at stage 6-4 and finding ezizh to melt a bit too quickly, should I reset him and invest the resources in one of my other tanks?
Probably
Or use shemira as tank. Overlevel her
Alright thanks a lot!
Shemira has been my bread and butter
Pretty hard, any tips?
8-32 ?
yeep
done 8-32, 2 minutes ago with this:
don't have all those heroessadly
I don't have a nemora, I wonder if I should buy her just for having her
instead of saving for a 2nd shemira
cant play without her.. first hero i buyed on lab store.. but depends on your heros
Get rid of warek for nem or nah ,
well, you can see my setup
arden good CC
he dies too fast by silv
So should I or not
@bitter crater i'd go with shemira, i't better in a long run
Any ideas how to get past this lev? I'm stuck guy
just wait and level up heroes lol
@void locust Silvinna change to estrilda
Can someone dm me the best team
lyca instead of sivlina more liek xd also more lvls helps
That doesnt fail anything
@bronze fractal u mean change her position?
all stages different counters.. but generally BROOTUS saveas. ye leo put lyca in no silvina!
i'm the same with @bronze fractal @void locust
No tank ick
Maybe estrilda/hogan/lyca/nemora/arden @void locust
no saveas hmmm, ye try them all, see what works, or Depends whose union u got maxed out, they the best too
@balmy crypt that synergy works best with maulers . Does it?
Is shemira, brutus, khasos, saveas and belinda a good team?
@void locust well, your highest damage would be saveas, but saveas rely on luck very much, totally in the critical, exept you have all mytic equpment
saveas gets 15 crit from just E+ unions, Estri needs L+ unions
ye good luck is all u need to pass a stage.
@void locust yeah it works with maulers I guess since your tankline won't go down so easy
Some one help me
Is shemira, brutus, khasos, saveas and belinda a good team? @bronze fractal
@pale kettle i dont think belinda give much help, but she give boots damage, so it's a decent team
Ok
@bronze fractal @balmy crypt so the idea is to keep saveas in front with hogan and lyca nemora estrilda behind?
hmmm maybe belinda for arden, could try that. leo share the dmg and all
No estrilda hogan in front
Need some help
i have a v quick question uh; is better to ascend belinda or lucius to legendary first?
if confident saveas wont die too fast, or just afk arena and lvl up.. lvl cap is 100. jajajajaj for E units
Lucius
@balmy crypt ok thanks alot guys 👌 👌 👌 👌
@crude comet lucius, cause he helps with team and stuff. Than belinda after you farmed alot
Shall i fit shemira or savaes in? Or this team is fine
Thats ny opinion, cause ive seen alot of stuff lucius can do
@main summit unless you're stuck at specific stage it looks good enough
tyty
@main summit i'd go with shemira,
@balmy crypt stuck at 11-28 now, it’s common i guess , needa get more levels
Shemira is the way to go
Need some help
@cerulean shore replace who for her? I have lyca nemore lucius estrilda belinda now
Yes
help plz this stage is savage
place athalia and saveas bot
try to kill vaden before he goes ult
@main summit normally I'd say lyca is good but for that stage maybe swap lyca for savaes or something... She will die too fast cuz of the factional
@main summit i'll go with nemora, but you can always change depends on the enemy, if you need more heal because lucius died too early, you can make nemora in and lyca out, something like that
or lucius saveas bot so lucius stuns him, you can try both
@pale kettle
bopth my tanks die before ulti
Aite thanks
well your first mistake is that you have all on 119
no choicee my main 5 are all elites
Golus is overwhelmingly tanky haha
you lvl your units wrong, you do all 101, than lucius 121 than saveas 121 etc
im using crystal to lvl my main to 119
change that 😄
i cant... not pulling my main elite fodders.....
you cant build a " main team " with heroes you dont have
@main summit also try with estrilda and Belinda below... Try to get rid of the savaes first
focu son the things you have and go with them as main buddy
@balmy crypt yeap, thanks
oof finally managed to pass stage 8, got the chance to use 25 scrolls, not a single purple, stuck on 9-20 😦
@rotund lodge i know how that summon feel
Not sure where to invest now
i'd invest in your saveas i guess
@glossy loom Lucius/golus/Belinda/savaes/khasos would be nice
There's no point in not doing that
I just wonder what would be best 5 character lineup atm
@balmy crypt i wouldnt have any heal 😐
@glossy loom i think you should always ascend the elite hero btw
should i?
Khasos gives lifesteal from attacks @glossy loom
Also Lucius has crazy amounts of sustain
Am I doing good for starting yesterday
@balmy crypt not when chapter 9 comes in
What?
I just to know if I’m making good progress and not leveling bad people
@broken wedge I wouldn't really call it ideal...
And also who should I try and get
Brutus/Shem I guess
Should I change my current lineup at all?
@ancient frost I'd say change Shem to khasos and change Lucius and Brutus posiions
stuck here 3 days already, any advice will be appreciated
Ty
@patent moth the lightbringers change to savaes/khasos and a tank I see you have brutus and golus you can try either out I'd recommend golus because of the elite+ I guess
Any help would be appreciated I'm stuck several days now... Niru always dies and Vedan most of the times, Nemora is my biggest problem
(Additional heroes: elite+ vurk, all elite: raine, khasos, brutus, niru, mirael, ira, hogan, ogi, vedan, morvus, golus, warek)
@civic spade cut the lightbringers for vurk and khasos/brutus if you have trouble with the backline wilders
I'll try that thank you
Leave Fawkes in though he's pretty useful
@balmy crypt ogi can easily takedown brutus before he use his ultimate, and seems saveas doesn't work very well in my team since he only elite+😔
Should I make a leg arden with ogi & vurk ?
Any advice?
I am really close completing this level any changes to the levelling or formation i could make??
I would personally switch Hogan for estrilda
The far right dude?
He means hogan
oh okay
would you agree @pale kettle
Yes but remember to remove gear from hogan to put on estrilda
yeah done
i didnt know people put estrilda on the front line tbh
It's where she belongs
General rule of thumb - strength heroes with fist icons go front line, magicians and agility go on back
that went worse replacing hogan with estrilda
Go with hogan-estrilda-fawkes-belinda-savass @pale kettle
Ok thnx
Should I make a leg arden with ogi & vurk ?
You cant use vurk for arden, swinowz.
Ogi/arden/ira is the common food to feed arden to l+ for 141 triple root
@balmy crypt I won tysm
Can I get pass Peak stage 3 with just a Wilder Arden?
What is my best line up?
@winter token shemira arden lyca and choose 2 from nemora grezhul silvina. However your levels are too low against silvina you'll be 1 shot
i'm at the same stage with the same heroes
@somber hemlock saveas back, try brutus instead of lyca or ogi. And try bursting niru firsf
Need help with finding a lineup for campaign stages
Any suggestions? Been stuck for two days lads
It's silvina and niru that keep wrecking me
Any idea how beat this?
get saveas to 140 😄
Help :’(
Should I use either of these epics
also stuck where hannah is halp (8-40)
@broken wedge Belinda. Especially if you plays a lightborn team
I’m a newb and don’t know much so what’s that
Just go Google.. a lot of guides around. Especially look for tier list
@broken wedge u can snapshot your team here. I can try let you know who are good
Whole list of roster
@broken wedge you should pull more heroes then it's easier to discuss. Too few heroes here.. haha. And you be getting plenty diamonds early. Belinda is good hero. And to help you till mid game.. saveas/vedan and maybe siliva can help. But most ppl will say saveas
I’ve just been leveling my vedan
the official unofficial 2019 tier list seems off by a lot. how about this one https://www.touchtapplay.com/afk-arena-tier-list-best-heroes-in-the-game/ ?
@broken wedge with your current roster
. I will recommend build Hogan Belinda silivia vedan then buy Shemira from lab for now
Ok, I’ll try to find shemira
Join guild to farm coins. 1st month should be easy to farm
Ya I’m about half way, I did I’m in zeal’s 3rd one
G luck
If u wanna use saveas.. then buy nemora.. so that you can use nemora arden and saveas
Who’s saveas
What should my line up be?
Maulers. Wolf face. Beside your spider lady
And how do I get more if the blue level stuff that’s holding me back so much
^ also need help with that
@somber hemlocki think u might need either shemira or seveas to be 121 at least, and I dont recommend 2 Carrie's. I will reset shemira and pump saveas.. rest of resource use on kosoas, Hogan or a wilder cc at 101 will do
well
Carry*
saveas is capped and so is shemira
2467/3000 dust for shem and saveas is lvl maxed
yo guys, who should I buy from the labyrinth store, Nemora or Shimura ? im on 9-38 rn
i could ascend saveas but i would kill vurk and brutus so nope that aint happening
@snow coyoteprob is your heroes all diversified till not much faction bonus.. haha. And likewise u should choose either shemira or seaveas to carry u. Since u have brutus, I recommend saveas now. If u dont have any more dimaknds to summon.. u can consider buy kaoas (mauler) from lab to have 3 mailers team.. Although lab first choice is buying shemira. So up to you.
@somber hemlock yeah I got the same problem
@snow coyote but I recommend wait for a while to pull more heroes first
. Will have diamonds easily at starting stages
@fierce kayak yeah I bought Shem from the lab already. But as for now. Should I just roll with the 5 I have leveled?
@somber hemlock haha.. of cos not
@snow coyote u can use brutus Arden shemira silivia vedan for 3 grave born bonus. Ascend your vedan to elite
Need help,I get rekt against graveborn heroes in general
That are my available heroes. Any suggestions for a counter graveborn team?
Need some help passing this stage
@vast parcel Seirus Brutus Arden Saveas Vurk.
Well those get rekt as well sadly
What Will be the beat team for me to get trough chapter 10/11? Im thinking of resetting belinda, getting arden in and then: Brutus, Lucius, saveas, tasi, arden. Any advice?
10-4
@odd skiff im at 10-32 with a lower team lol
@wary matrix show me de way
@wary matrix your team is all over the place with factions no buff. Wtf. Lucius taking you there? Sav doing the dmg. Cuz I know brutus is getting nuked. I'm mad. Haha
@odd skiff haha, saveas and belinda deal a lot of damage, the cc from tasi helps a lot and Lucius is my main tank. Brutus is just for distracties
@meager rock send a pic of formation
Distraction*
@wary matrix that's effin dumb. In theory I have a way stronger team including getting the buff from 3 maul. So wtf
Lucius shield op
I know right 😂
@meager rock get rid coffin fuck put lucius in front line with brutus in coffin spot
@odd skiff you lack physical dps from backline I think
@meager rock i think estrillda brutus shemira belinda and fawkes can beat that stage, just make sure to adjust the formation so shemira won't get disabled before her ultimate
@wary matrix yeah I try putting athelia and or anything but I'm at a loss.
Is there anyway possible for me to beat 9-20?
@odd skiff you should run lightbringers and try for a faction bonus I think
@balmy crypt all light?
@meager rock try shemira in the middle, and try switching teir place few times,
Not all wait
hmnn so many people on the 9-20 stage
Where did your Belinda+ go lol
@sharp meadow switch brutus and lucius put Belinda in lyca spot. For full buff
Hogan-raine-belinda-brutus-savaes @odd skiff
@sharp meadow play with that team for a few tries rotating around.
Any ideas? I can make a leg belinda and arden but i lose my two tanks so doubting...
Shem-vedan-belinda-hogan-athalia @split bolt
Use the faction bonus on overleveled Shem and vedan to melt them
Id take out arden from resonating spot and put in a normal elite, you'll have higher buffs @split bolt
Top 5 are my current lineup. I go Hogan- brutus-saveas-belinda-fawkes
Please advice optimal growth
Help
I know I need to change fawkes, but he is my only cc right now the bonus is lost without him
@split bolt well you might want shemira in this stage
graveborn deals 25% more damage to lightbearer
@split bolt if you still can't, make sure you level her up to 101 and try again
@odd skiff they didnt last long, they died quicker than my last formation. Guess ill have to wait to level them up a lil more
@sharp meadow I'm in same boat
I just wanted to unlock that new arena asap><
@odd skiff @cerulean shore thanks will try both formation and see how it goes
What lineup do u prefer out of those heroes?
@crimson pawn well if you go saveas, equipment is crucial, try to get the best helmet and enchant them so you'll get the best critical
@crimson pawn or you can try levleling shemira too
@fervent coyote I'll try it thank you :)
I'll level up the best heroes as they become available, I'm really trying to save what i can so i am optimal. I guess waiting a bit isn't as bad as making wrong heroes, ty for the tip on saveas @cerulean shore
@elder pond why change fawkes, he's not half bad
And you have arden if you put another mauler, it'll be fine
or you can go with athalia, pretty good damage and you can control the early stun
@crimson pawn you're welcome
@obtuse halo what do you need help for?
you know, the line up is usually depends on the enemy, as long as you have 1 core hero /
@obtuse halo for example, i used shemira and finish 1 full chapter by changing the 4 other heroes depending on the enemy, in 100 level you can go with saveas or some other high damage dealer
@crimson pawn what's the best equipment in your guild store at the moment?
@cerulean shore I’m on 8-24
Help best team of these
Best type to use against light bearers?
@cerulean shore yeah I have been trying to fit athalia in.
I'd like that spear, but i need the gems for more hero pulls
@obtuse halo really? I tough you should be able to complete it with that level, maybe you need to try a few times,
who knows, maybe you get lucky with the crit in some time
@elder pond athalia is great, highest damage if the team alive though,
even if it's really hard to get, you only need elite+ to ascend
@crimson pawn i think you should just do some leveling and wait for legendary or maybe some mytic
what is it 6-36
@crimson pawn even though your progress will be slower
@cerulean shore sorry I meant 8-28
If anyone needs late chapter 6 help, there's a guide pinned here.
@cerulean shore thanos for the help
@worn swan why, i think this game is pretty great, just finish your daily and try to make progress after fighting labyrinth
wtf why would I want thanos to help me
lol i smell some misunderstanding
@worn swan Everyone starts out somewhere. You can do Golus Hogan Belinda Arden and Thane, for now for at least a 3-1-1 bonus. Thane only really gets better in late game, though, so keep that in mind.
@pale rover thanks guys
I'm stuck help
Can anyone help? Stuck at 8-32 for 2 days alr
@agile furnace You need to level your other characters. That Tasi will die instantly.. wilders are weak against maulers and the level gap is pretty big.
so i just need to level them up on average?
yes tasi dies immediately LOL oh boy...
@versed pulsar what's he situation?
^ yeah in general i keep overleveling to at max a 20 lvl gap, esp earlier when there isnt a dominating carry like shemira. the lvls where u boost a skill+have a higher stat jump can make a huge difference. try to at least get your team to 101 for now by redistributing levels
@cerulean shore I keep getting nuked by Isabella and niru
ok so i just have to try getting them to lvl 101 and then focus on brutus by a max gap of 20?
lets say i get to 121 101 101 101 101 what should i be doing next?
@versed pulsar you can show screenshot of your team and the enemy
yep! and, if you can get leg or higher saveas, hes a great dps carry at this point of the game@agile furnace
@agile furnace well yeah that'll make the difference
see how far that can get you, then i slowly get my other units up to speed. ehich is what im doing rn actually haha.
hey alice is it ok if i pm you? just for a quick run through
yep sure
Do stackable debuffs on wrizz and soren last the whole battle? For example belinda's debuff and lyca's.
@west iron Kindly ask in #classic-questions
I did and I just got ignored.
It's a question regarding my guild boss lineup though so seems relevant
@versed pulsar hmnn, 9-20 huh,
i think somefaction bonus will help, expecially when you use shemira
athalia might be great to be used in this situation, maybe change it with saveas
@versed pulsar athalia can stun earl, so you can aim either for ira or isabella
i finally beat 6-36 after a week of being stuck... and immediately was able to push to 7-28 lol. now im stuck again, any advice? https://i.imgur.com/AnOEAw3.png
reset vedan and up something else
Lucious
yea im not using vedan atm at all. hes s+ on tier lists but hes shitter tier in the actual game
preferably grez
oh nice what did you end up using?
i used skreg+hogan as tanks and saveas+shemira+khasos for dps. i thnik thats precisely what you suggested
@versed forge have you tried using lucius rather than vedan?
im not using vedan
funnily enough I also ended up at 7-28 on that account
@versed forge oh, wait
my latest most powerful lineup has been skreg+hogan saveas+shemira+khasos/arden/nemora
im not even sure what makes skreg good, i was using lucius before that
for me he just sorta.. works
@versed forge try lucius hogan nemora shemira belinda
that was my lineup before being stuck on 6-36, except i was using saveas instead of shemira
yeah chapter 7 is lb heavy so maulers are at a bit of a disadvantage
ill try my previous lineup brb
@versed forge good luck
i guess the enemy now is lighbearer, so it give bonus damage to mauler so i don't think using a lot of mauler is a good idea
What would be the best team at my stage? Now using Brutus, Lucius, Belinda, saveas and tasi. I’m thinking of replacing tasi for Arden. Any advice?
i dont know which of my 5 heroes to actually level up.. i keep wasting diamonds resetting them everyday :/
sav backline is still safe, try shem at the front
Just got Arden legendary btw
or grez
i think ill just keep my 5 main heroes as the highest ones (legend+), so saveas, shemira, hogan, belinda and arden
Help
@wary matrix what stage?
@versed forge so
frontline: hogan/grez/shem/luc
backline: sav, shem/arden/nemora/khasos
just rearrange your resounding crystal to something like that then play around
because i keep wasting gems on this crap everyday...
@versed forge well, you can focus on 1 faction in the summon, i dont think reseting too often is a good idea, just make the level equal if you can't decide, and only overlevel 1 core hero
ye saveas is my main dps atm
@wary matrix i think it's a good lineup, if you need heal, tasi might be better, but arden can deal with more people, and will be very helpful in his 141 level
@gritty sail well i think you need some level
But maybe you can use ezizh instead of arden and see how it is going
should I upgrade silivina to legendary or just wait for something better?
Suggestions, I feel like my best units get demolished by the faction advantage
Yall got unlucky
Looking for a Saveas or Lightbearer line up
For anyone needing late chapter 6 help, kindly refer to the pinned post for team building.
Use your Belinda! @spark path
You can't make a completely personalized guide. It's to help people learn to build their own teams.
@pale kettle you don't have enough fodder though 
@boreal ermine isabella isn't good enough try to replace her
@spark path try brutus/skreg frontline and belinda/saveas/raine(or khasos) backline. however idk if itll work without any cc at all haha
there is no specific way to beat chapter 6 that's different from the other chapters, it's just using the same team format with a difficult stage
maybe raine can help comp the lack of CC with damage 🤔
who should I focus on? My Belinda is legendary by the end of this week, since I'm using my Thoran's
Hey y‘all can someone help me to get past this? My heroes just die instantly
Im at King’s Tower floor 100 and cant clear https://imgur.com/a/xxM8jUz this is my line up
@austere stag you don't have enough fodders to focus on anyone
@hoary terracehow does hogan do in place of athalia
@austere stag you dont have much of a frontline rn. nevertheless, vedan/tasi(offtank) frontline and belinda/arden/saveas backline should be decent
@fervent coyote True enough. But if you got asked for a guide repetitively like I have been asked, then I'll refer to it when I need to so I don't have to keep repeating myself.
that makes sense. maybe that post could expand into a teambuilding FAQ to cover stuff like silvina stages
@light elm what do you mean by fodder? 
@hoary terrace try swapping saveas and athalia so athalia can target isabella. however, you should get saveas to 121. its a world of difference
@pale kettle sacrifice units
saveas can -sorta- tank when he heals as he kills
@light elm u mean lucius? dont have hogan tho
@light elm i'm on a pretty new server too, but my question was who I should focus on
Nah I meant hogan, assumed you had him my bad
ahh
ah shit JK @hoary terrace you have tasi, use her instead of athalia.
okeyy might try the tactics
I was just thinking of using these or just hopefully waiting for someone better lol
ty
since imo you need more cc
@austere stag to focus on someone to ascend, you need to have elite+ units at hand, which you don't. Sry if am misunderstanding you
@pale kettle If you wait for another fodder instead of eating that other Silvina, you can ascend her all the way to max in one go.
@pale kettle I totally missed niru 😅 but yea silvina is a nice hero you can ascend her, maybe wait a bit for another e+ fodder
ohhh
Can I get some ideas for this I’m getting crushed lol
okay ill wait then
@bronze lintel Maulers will really crush your Wilders. Who else do you have?
Lucius Estrilda Fawkes Belinda Nemora (additional cc, healing)/Tasi (additional cc, banish)/Athalia (dps, to pull a backliner forward, full team bonus)/Saveas (dps). @bronze lintel
Just need advice with teambuilding, stuck at 9-24
XD
@coarse karma I'm incredibly forgetful so I can't recall what faction is dominant in 9.😅
Could you send a pic of the stage as well
Been stuck on 9-20 for almost 3 days. Can’t seem to push through all the massive healing. Any advice?
How’d you get past 9-20 @coarse karma ?
@outer terrace Do you have an Ira? She actually helps a lot against Niru/Nemora healing.
Just pressing restart XD
Sadly no @pale rover
@outer terrace You might need to overlevel.
Hopefully if I get to 121 with everyone it’ll work out
Graveborn > lightbearers and it seems that comprises most of your team/heroes.
@outer terrace try hogan for belinda or Fawkes and put saveas back to burst niru or vedan
@coarse karma get a saveas to legend ASAP and reset khasos when you do. For now try top 5 but arden for angelo
Pulls from summons are bad
Been trying q-q to get saveas
Oh alrighty thanks i will try! ^-^ @light elm
Probably doesn't work but see if there's progress
Silvina is so strong against light and there's niru as well
How to counter Niru; basically, disable him or burst him down before he can use his ultimate skill.
Disablers: Tasi, Arden, Fawkes
Dps: Khasos (his boomerang attack hits the backline), Shemira (hits everyone and has a silence skill), Saveas (single target focused damage, to focus on Niru if he's a frontliner), Athalia (to pull him to the front and throw him around so he can't really attack), Brutus (no explanation necessary, death spin with haste).
If that helps anyone.😅
Ooh okay! Thanks for the tips ^^
kaz is a contender for dps with her factional advantage
Should i reset ny estrilidia then? Try another tank? @light elm
Yeah I don’t think 9-20 is possible without full 121 hero’s. Too much healing
What team? @bronze lintel
Lucious estrilda front tasi Belinda nemora back
What tier were those units though?
Lucious and Belinda mystic estrilda L+ and the other two L
Lmao how do you have mythics by chapter 9?
Lucky or whale lol
Luck
That's really the only way to break some walls and skip afk.
Y’all think 9-20 is bad wait till 10-32
Focus vedan
This one is tough the sil one shots my mystic+ Belinda with lucious sheild
Should I start to pull Graveborn factions since I need foldders to ascend Shemira, more grezhul, and hopefully ferael for CC (Since I lack of Wilders CC)
Who should I have as my lineup?
I'm stuck on 4-12. Which heroes should I max and use?
from my lineup, which one should I up to legend? kinda stuck at 6-28
Im confused, Im not even close to winning
@pine marsh Lucius serius front Belinda Tisa and fhawks/salveas back
Help please
@pale kettle whats there to be confused about
Im higher level than them
why am I losing!
prob cuz khaz front doesnt work
11-16 brute force?
My lucious ded within 5 sec
reset khaz and max warek
@river whale depends on stage
@pale kettle I can just put warek on the crystal
then why u didn't have him in crystal then
Im very bad at the game ok
i thought u wanted advice
yes :D thanks
I still lose this is impossible 
then do this : remove hogan from crystal, reset khaz, max warek, and put vedan on crystal
whats the best setup I can make this those heros?
put best gear on warek and put him front with vedan with Sav,belinda and nemora
@pale kettle depends on stage
stuck on 8-16 ish
show enemy formation plz
@pale kettle ?
who silvina attacks 1st?
the guy on the middle back
ye
@river whale reset vurk and max lyca
nah man, impossible
its definetly possible
took me 3 tries with 30k power disadvantage at chap 6
ur just not willing to try different stuff
I tried everything!!!
ye u lack heroes
yeah :/
afk do pulls and lvl up bel to max asap
Any advice ladies and gents?
all u can rlly do
@ruby gulch underlvld
do all ur missions and activities and afk 12h
Kk I’ll wait around for a while then
I got shemira 81, savaes 81 and vedan 81 which one should i upgrade?
Should I start to pull Graveborn factions since I need foldders to ascend Shemira, more grezhul, and hopefully ferael for CC (Since I lack of Wilders CC)
@ruby gulch i passed it with this team, try moving your units around cause it took me like 20 tries
Unsure whether I need a different line up or am just under leveled. Any suggestions
9-28 is bitch to beat
Thank you hombre
What's the best team i can make with that?
Any tips
okay, so i have my line up but idk who to add.
Nemora or Shemira.
and where to add them
Any better lineups i can use?
@unreal reef I'd use them both back lane
@unreal reef switch memoirs or shemira for your bow caster and put saveas on the outside rather the middle and put nemora and shemira in the middle
@halcyon lantern arden over saveas
This is my current lineup but i won’t get faction bonus
Help
@halcyon lantern u need a cc hero there
He gets instantly rekt by the backline girl
afk abit
Try 1 dmg dealer.
Who should I level to 121?
This level is too hard any advice or do I need to wait for leveling up and ascensions
Should I start to pull Graveborn factions since I need foldders to ascend Shemira, more grezhul (already has 3), and hopefully ferael for CC (P.S. I lacking of Wilders CC Tasi/Lyca and Only has Elite Brutus now)
Any ideas? Been stuck mid stage 9 for a while
am i just under leveled
stuck 6-12 currently hoping to get my ira legendary but still a long way to go
maybe a 2nd sup would be good
use tanks
I plan on it but dont know any good ones
hogan and probably the wilder one for now
Ok what should i switch out?
I really wanna make a graveborn deck i was thinking silvina thoran shemira brutus and tasi what do you guys think
9-20 wall, help anyone ?
More Tank Power and Shemira in the mix
9-16, I don't do enough dps and time runs out, but I can win if there was more time . what should I do?
Crank out a few more lvls/ gear enhancements. Or try out Savaes for the extra dps. @pale kettle
use saveas?
Saveas for?
More dps?.....
^^^what should I replace him with..
Nemora lol sorry.
Should I use faction rolls on mauler to get fodder to up my Saveas to L+? Or roll wilders?
^ Savaes deals a huge amount of the damage in these stages if built right.
Roll Wilders. I don't see a Tasi.... also. Ask in #classic-questions for a better answer . 👌 @marsh orchid
Thanks @nocturne peak
idk maybe a 2nd sup would help? im fixed on getting my ira up to legendary howether if i pull many saveas i would go with him any other ideas? stuck at 6-12
Hey I'm not sure who to up. Should I keep leveling saveas ?
which lineup is best? stuck at 8-40 atm
https://prnt.sc/nkezko Stuck at 6-36... What do you think about it guys? Any suggestions?
Any ideas, bros?
Idk. Reser saveas and try shemira?
Shemira for sure. Only if past 161 though.
@hushed fulcrum you dont really have much of a frontline.... try brutus/ezizh (is he tank? idk) frontline and belinda/fawkes/saveas(or thane for the faction)
Ezizh could be a tank if he's Elite + or higher. I've seen it done.
brutus isnt a very good tank in the beginning though so :[]
Which lightbringer to star up?
ah alright. well, give it a shot, since those are your best frontlining options @hushed fulcrum
Yep, tried this one but meh. Ezizh is pretty weak as a tank, doesnt really cc or tank that much be he's really strong with his abilities.
belinda
@novel oxide that's for #classic-questions
Lucius best lightbringer euw
But Belinda is 👌
Thought that was lineup?
@hushed fulcrum that exact combo? did you end up feeding your hogan by the way?
Yea, i kinda regret it ahaha
hahaha
When asking questions that has nothing to do with a fight lol usually goes to #classic-questions .
Was too excited by first legendary.. and no other than Belinda
welp maximize on your damage then to make up for your weak frontline, and try to cc them to hell by making your back line belinda/fawkes/arden
People sleep on her and they shouldn't. Her buffs are 👌
you dont event need legendary that early :p
Yea. I'm a bit afraid about not having the faction bonuses in this case
Legendary mostly needed around ch 9 . If even.
I'd like to reset shemira and thane. Thane dropped so much from early game where he could carry alone
Ok well it has to do with this fight😂
Faction bonus is not always needed in all fights. I mean, it's nice to have, but doesn't have to be the case every time.
yeah, but having alot of CC may just help you push through
they both get good late game, so yeah. not worth investing in rn.
@novel oxide You need to get Vedan down asap.
fawkes can coffin brutus, arden can vine trap a couple others
Sooo I doubt there is much I can do about it right now, but just in case - anyone sees anything here that would let me beat 6-4 without waiting for a few more levels?
Shall i fully upgrade epic gear or just wait for legendaries?
@viscid pasture Check pinned messages please .
@hushed fulcrum you can use upgraded gear to upgrade gear in the future, so up to you
All help relating to ch 6 can be found in pinned.
Fawkes really helped me a lot. Mhhh, who to up after resetting thane and shemira?
fawkes is great!
Shemira should be focused on after 161. So for now Thane although you need some decent luck to get him going before he's geared.
id do belinda for now. shes legendary anyways, so she can serve as your dps carry for a bit until you can ascend saveas up
Thane is a bit funky to me lol I don't like him . I prefer Ghezul.
Ye, thane is too a coinflip
Not quite sure if the pin info tells me anything new, but thanks for letting me know, will see if I can do anything worthwhile with lightbearers
i hope you can summon a good frontliner like lucius too :p or even hogan, his meatshield existence really helped push enemies back enough until my backline could pick them off (at least until ch 9)
Ye, fml
@viscid pasture 2 tanks up front , 1-2 dps in back with some sort of cc for 3rd person. Try to take faction bonus into account when fight against things.
But jesus christ i opened so many of them, even the faction summoning... Lucius never appears even after 41 levels D:
yeah, it happens. i still desire tasi lol
°°
Yeah I just got Tasi and shes super strong even though she is the weakest power-wise in my team

I can get a legendary belinda or fawkes rn im on 10-20 i know they are both good im just conflicted lol
@stoic locust depends on stage
I'm stuck at 8-28 and in secret of the forest (where I got Tasi).
Should I use some heroes for having legendary one ? And which team should I make ?
1/2 heroes
2/2 heroes
@stoic locust remove Sav from crystal reset mirael and khaz, put hogan warek front Sav athalia hogan back
and max sav
@pale kettle show enemy formation
8-28
Forest which need Wilder team
u meant mauler team
The game say Wilder one
@pale kettle for 8-28 remove shem and niru and swap for arden and lyca
Still haven't used Lyca, but she seems good with Arden & Nemora, I will try tomorow when I have some free slot in crystal
or just use ur 600 diamonds
I removed some heroes from it 1h ago so ^^
sure
Nemora or shemira from store
Thank you for your advice
I prefer Nemora, you can focus on Shemira later.
I regret not getting Nemora lol Struggled my way to ch10 without her.
Stuck on 4-32 anything or anyone I should focus/reset? I think I can get an individual up to 73 or 74
@nocturne peak cheers
👍
@split prairie Try Lucious/Estrildia up front/ Savaes/Nemi/Ira in the back, if you want Faction, use Ank instead of Ira.
any tips for this stage / should i be focusing on different heroes?
@drowsy wedge way too underleveled
@drowsy wedge Take out Shemira for Tasi or Nemora. Perfereable Tasi.
Also, ^ levels lol.
yeah levels are definitely something im working on. stuck on 100 of the tower and i find it hard to get exp other than just waiting. i'll try nemora. thanks
its not hard to get xp just afk 12h and ur good to go
@drowsy wedge I'd say tasi/nemora/kaz or arden/brutus/savaes or shemira maximise the faction bonuses
well yeah thats what i meant lol
@upbeat lotus depends on stage
@balmy crypt i'll give that a shot if i cant get nemora to work. thanks
Any tips against silvina? 8-16
So I should level up estrilda instead of saveus and place greshul on the backline? @nocturne peak
@split prairie You could probably use someone better than Estrid but if someone can step in and suggest better, feel free.
And no
Savaes should be the one you continue to level up . Period. All the way to 161.
Idk why you're running a lv1 and a lv4 but I'd suggest cutting those for estrilda. Grezhul in front and estrilda behind would be better since she is less tanky @split prairie
I think he was working out a formation .
Currently I only have gres upfront to stun the sheep's heals, which works well, but my other two mains get destroyed
Hi guys. 1st im new here. 2nd i need some advice. I kniw athalia is good.but as celestial she is hard to evolve. So im thiknking in change her for some CC heroe.any sugestion.thx in advance
@nocturne peak yeah, trying to figure out how to keep the sheep Stunned long enough to dps the others
If you've got an Arden, try that.
@keen dragon Need to see your heroes to be able to suggest anything. 😃
Am I under leveled here or need a different team? Using nemora to bait silvina since she is the boss
Tasi all day. lol. Start working on an Arden on the side. You'll start using him for some heavy cc later on.
@vale bobcat Switch Brutus and Savaes. Try that.
@vale bobcat looks alright id say just play around with the formations or afk for a while if you need
@nocturne peak is there a level I can base him at? Say like 30 or so that'd hed be useful but not taking up to much as far as resources?
When ever he can start rooting.
Arden is that good? Hes got 4th power?
Arden isn't really that great until lv81...
Arden unlock th 4th?
Pic of enemies?
Hogan-belinda-brutus-savaes-golus is worth a shot or maybe hogan-estrilda-belinda-tasi-nemora @scarlet island
Any help on 10-23? Im getting rolled by saveas
Stuck on 6-24
@velvet basalt unit picture
@indigo plover you're running with 3 wilders against a mauler squad.. change your team's factions
@balmy crypt neither of them worked, I think I just need to level my heroes. Thanks tho!
@velvet basalt underleveld
ye u can swap nemora for arden if needed
Should I work out a different team here or just level up more?
So I know I need to put Althia in the crystal instead of saveas but I have a few options on who my main 5 squad should be and not sure which would be the strongest. Many combinations could be done here and some would sacrifice a faction boost
Stuck on 9-20, anything I can change here to help me get through it?
@pale kettle "@stoic locustBoBillis remove Sav from crystal reset mirael and khaz, put hogan warek front Sav athalia hogan back" I can't put hogan twice?
@pale kettle Arden vurk and ira for a back line, and hogan and the tree guy in front. Keep vurk a good 5-10 levels ahead of everyone else
meant thoran
Can't use double units in same battle.
What is the best lineup possible currently stuck on 7-28
soz @stoic locust
10-8 , Recommendations?
Lucius Estrilda Thane Mirael Fawkes is my curent lineup, I just got the E+ Belinda from Day 7 login, who should I replace with her?
Probably Mirael tbh
Kay, thx
Nemora or shemira from the shop? Screenshot is loading of my units
Screenshot doesn't load: I have grezhul seirus hogan lucius/ferael/tasi
I prefer Nemora, but if you're leveled past 161 already def Shemira.
with that lineup should I use the regular elite shemira or instead level up my legendary arden and use him
not sure who would be more useful
Should I make Belinda or lucius legendary?
Lucious First tbh, Than Belinda after. Don't use Ascended units as fodder.
or i guess I could level up the arden instead of the fawkes that might be better
Shemira is better after 161.
yeah im not there yet
@karmic compass lucius if u use mirael and morv as food
I'm not I'm using marial and morv
So go with Arden for the cc but he'd have to be 81 to be proper useful.
i could get him to 101 I think
Fawkes can be used along with Arden sometimes too if you want extra cc , so up to you if you wanna him in crystal.
does anyone have some accurate tier list
Feed Saveas to Brutus or not?
yeah, i hear after 160 he falls off
Is skreg really worth keeping ;-;
@silver jungle https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list#LateGameTierList
and brutus r i s e s
@gilded fractal I’m at chapter 16-12
@gilded fractal I don’t know if it’s good time to feed Saveas to Brutus
Any advice? Peaks of Time on unrelenting blaze
Yeah 161 Sav is no go.
im not that far so forgive me if im wrong, but with units like brutus and shemira they totally replace saveas' purpose, no?
Hi im stuck at chapt 6 -28
Shemira and Brutus shines after 161.
since saveas is a dps carry, which shemira outclasses him in by far after 161
Savaes is out of the picture at the point. OR so I would think 🤔 If you're running more CC/support at that point.
Need some help wif my line up
Chapter 16-12. Can’t beat it with Saveas
@thin bough Read pinned messages for chapter 6 help.
Can anyone help me with a 9-20 lineup please
Time to get Shemira up and start focusing on her at 161.
ah i see. you dont have shemira yet, so i will guess that you wait on sacrificing saveas until then.
@gilded fractal @nocturne peak no, I do have Shem lol
@pale kettle Try Lucious/Brutus/Savaes/Tasi/Arden.
@gilded fractal she was dying too fast
You gotta gear her and get her past 161.
hmm i see.
She needs the skill at 161 to shine.
well, im not nearly where you are so i shouldnt keep trying to give advice. but one last question is how overleveled was she?
I'm not even there either, just giving general advice he could be missing. 🤔
@nocturne peak @gilded fractal that’s my Shem, she dies a lot quicker than we think
What position you put her at?
In the front, so she can use ult faster
Fawkes or Raine?
Try back, put Call artifact on her perhaps?
or should I go with the wilders setup instead of the lightbearers
Fawkes for sure. But you're taking Faction damage though.
i assume you already tried it, but tasi cant offtank for you in that level, can she? @cyan comet
@nocturne peak thanks, I’ll give it a try
Tasi is 
@gilded fractal my only tank Is Brutus. I think I might need second tank
thank you @nocturne peak
Try Lucious but idk how'd he do as Elite.
@cyan comet does tasi get killed immediately before she can teleport?
anyone..?