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@fierce kayak I used Shemira instead
Take out Belinda
@blazing stratus drop the rat on bottom back. Add Athalia. Switch Athalia with brutus
@blazing stratus shemira
I have Saveas but every time I use him it seems like no help. 
Ok let me try reseting my character
@terse sandal@Cyanide tks. Wow maulers? Even if my Brutus is only elite while my Lucius Belinda Shemira are all elite + and I can ascend them further?
But I did consider your idea after pulling Brutus last night.
Too many mage
@fierce kayak for now. Once you get further in you can easily reset characters once you get the others ascended
@terse sandal you're only in chap 11?
Put agity hero so your other equipment can use
@steep swift yep 
Ah I thought you were end game :p
I mean, I have other agility heroโs but they all suck at taking damage
And only have one capped character and it's a. L+ capped..

Tasi is good combo for Fawkes
@hexed jetty try sav on backline drop horse girl and put Seirus in Belindas spot
This is what I have
@terse sandal you're better off bring dull team to 141 before working on bringing someone to 160+
All*
@steep swift niru was easily carrying me
But it's up to u
But now I'm against ascended levels
So I should drop Lyca? I thought she was really good because of her Energy points regen? ๐ค
Ah, okay.
@terse sandal ok tks. Think I have to try and see whichever works for me.
I pick the first one
@atomic atlas athalia in seirus spot drop lucius for trash Belinda and put her in brutus spot so brutus is back mid
Should i keep my current lineup or change on stage 7-16
That way Belinda will take silvinas initial hit and sav will focus on her hard while enemy golus gets stunned for a bit
But u will change as the time goes by so just try to test some of it
@tame moth screenshot of stages enemies?
How to beat 14-37?
@terse sandal Iโll give it a shot right now!
When you ask for help and get completely ignored :/
@tame moth try dropping Khasos for Ardyn
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@shadow vessel what stage/ heroes you got?
I can beat the lvl btw just didnt know if i was using the best lineup ๐
I can get to 5-36 before I get stuck again
@tame moth gotta remember, you have 3 maulers against a lightbearer team taking bonus 25% damage you dont need to
Any tips on this floor? Not sure what my best team lineup would be
@shadow vessel Seirus niru frontline. Ira ardyn and if possible. A stronger sav on backline
@fierce kayak still fail this stage
So drop Thane and Belinda?
I'm stuck on 8-24, anyone have tips for me? Thanks in advance ๐
And replace with Ira and Sav
@blazing stratus sorry. Maybe seek others advise too
@vale bobcat Drop golus. Put nemora in belindas spot. Put no gear or weakest gear Belinda in golus spot
@shadow vessel would be easier to say with a screenshot of enemies
@iron viper reset tasi and Lucius, put them in crystal guve the xp to vedan and arden
That way everyone can go 101+
@blazing stratus I think I used Shemira raine Belinda Hogan lucius
Finally. Someone who knows what their doing to give the help and not me 
@blazing stratus Drop SHem, put all your levels on Saveas. Switch Shem with Hogan
@blazing stratus use Khasos instead of Atlahta
My problem is not having many elite+ or above because all my guys but two are capped at 100
Ok thanks let me try again
@terse sandal you are greatly appreciated lol
@blazing stratus and when I stuck I just swap around their position and keep trying. And I think I use Shemira to tank instead.
@tame moth focus level your highest tiers. Not the ones you use most.
Ideas?
Thanks @near mist I'll try it out
Thanks @fierce kayak i will keep tryi g
@terse sandal even having no gear on belinda, and having nemora with gear, nemora still is the one getting targetted
@blazing stratus will get thru. Or try to get first relic
@vale bobcat weird
@blazing stratusi think it's only at later stage which ppl can't even level up their heroes.. I think that's what they say Great Wall.. haha
Ah. tiers
@split bolt try to install lyca instesd of nemo
@terse sandal
If not working, lvl up everyone
@shadow vessel wont help much but switch sav and serius since Serius takes bonus damage from maulers
Ok
Sav if strong enough can take a few hits
Thanks
@gritty topaz nemo, Hogan, bruty, saveas, vedan/fawkes
I for once can say I was semi-helpful to the discord. Helped some people pass stages they were on

@terse sandal thanks for your contribution comrade
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Being useful feels good
@near mist
A devoted civilian indeed, may your country shines in glory
I could probably pass my stage but I'm to stubborn to fodder my first L+ into Shem for mythic tier shem
Plus I promised Kaz I wouldn't, supposedly library update or something where Niru gets added to it

Just to tell you but lvl 161 shem is a mass murderer
I know. That's what makes it even harder
Niru carried me quite a bit and he was first L+ so it's a sentimental thing at this point
And his pvp stall game is top tier
Whatโs the best team comp specifically for guild boss?
Stuck in 9-20 for the past three days pls hlp
Getting ass beat here. Any tips
.> ya only bring 5 heroes to a stage...keep the rest at lvl 1.
@crisp scaffold Use athalia to interrupt naru, brutus and saveas on vedan kill him before ultimate
@crisp scaffold try moving Sav to Lucius spot, drop vedan and add ardyn. Switch Lucius with Athalia
Okay iโll try that out thanks
@lost hemlock not much to recommend with that team. If geared. replace thoran with niru and vedan with lightbearer guy. Cant remember his name
Strongly suggest getting an Ardyn or Nemora for some CC
Any suggestions on what Wilder I should get to legend?
I need 2 more elite+ for 2 legends I just don't know who yet, I'm thinking Lyca but she's so hard to get
Ardyn is good but Nemora for sure since she can reach Ascended while ardyn gets locked at L+
Lyca isnt all that great
It should be a day or two till I get nemora since the Lab shop
Stuck on 5-20 Brutus boss
Should I use some of those lv1 elite heroes?
Maybe 6 days, I'm not sure.
Jesus. Angelo is such a pain in the assss? Single handedly keeping his whole team alive even when all units are on one target.....
@whole rune while not great at its tier. Ardyn cc could make a huge difference.
Use athalia on Angelo @grave shadow
@grave shadow enemy angelo is op. Ours on the other hand would lose to a paperweight
so ascend Ardyn?
I try. But then astril pushes closer so no one targets him
@whole rune you dont have the third ardyn needed to ascend to Rare+ do you?
Best comp specifically for guild bosses?
Got it. Key was to cc lock with Fawkes and Arden
@crisp birch with your current team. Sav, Nemora, Shem, I would personally add mirael and ira but those are up to you
mirael damage shield and Iras ulti are good
Aight thanks
Sry is this correct?
Her ulti will deal even more damage
@crisp scaffold if you absolutely need Lucius. switch him with Brutus so he isnt targeted first taking that bonus damage
I see
Brutus passive makes him immune for a set time after he should die which gives lucius even more uptime that he wouldnt get
That's why he is the last rated Legendary hero on tisr list
Also. Switch lucius and ardyn so lucius is behind brutus
So just for general usage (mostly campaign) I'm using the top 5 heroes. However I'm thinking I could replace Silvina with someone else, any ideas out of the options I have?
Hogan works okay as an alternative but not much better if at all
@desert grail if possible. Silvina to shem spot. Shem to lucius. niru to hogan
9-24 any suggestions? Been trying different variations. Like some different perspective .
@strange mauve if you switch away from silvina go to ardyn
@nocturne peak ardyn replace Belinda. Ira to sav spot. Sav to lucius spot tasi replace khasos
@strange mauve kaz is good for her dodge rate but numisu unless on a good maulers team shouldn't be used over Nemora or ardyn
Oh so use Ira?
Aight I'll give Kaz a try later, ty ^^
@nocturne peak ira does that 25% bonus damage to GB and Sav will help drop both bottom enemies on front and backline
And lucius is just taking bonus un-needed damage against Niru there
Gotcha, will try this out. Tyvm.
And it still keeps you at 3/2 formation buff as well
I don't know who to switch to get faction bonuses
@viscid spade you need more heroes tbh
Switch Mirael for Ardyn though
And Vedan for Sav
Once you get him rare+
Ok thanks
My team die too fast
stuck๐ญ
cant get past this stage
@gritty topaz replace hogan with level 1 ardyn. No joke
@median star show rest of heroes
@terse sandal here you go
Drop khasos from res crystal. Add Ardyn
Backline top to bottom Sav Ardyn Nemora frontline is any level 1 magician to pull silvina and keep lucius
Khasos is near useless
Iโm in same stage as you own
@terse sandal thanks bro
I think you just need levels on saveas
@tranquil hill u passed? ahaha
The trash magician will make Silv an easy target for Sav to bring down. Nemora and ardyn cc will help a ton and lucius against the golus should survive a bit
Nah stuck like you
stuck on this level for 5 days already๐๐
possible?
@terse sandal so replace hogan with arden?
@tranquil hill that Belinda is taking bonus 25% damage from Silv for faction advantage
Yea I know :/ got nothing else to put there though
@gritty topaz try it. Level 1 ardyn in Hogans spot
@tranquil hill swap brutus and Belinda change Raine for Ira
dies instantly and still unable to beat
@gritty topaz the ardyn would but it makes Silvina an easy target for Sav. Who all survives after that first bit?
I just gotta wait for levels or leg saveas
@proper elbow try saveas top and put a cc hero instead of golus. Arden tasi nemora fawkes
@light elm ty. did try that a few times before i cawme here. guess i need levels
saveas dies second after ardyn
Just wait to level up a bit
Just got Athalia, any room for her on my team or is everyone else just better?
That's the only reason I'm here is to afk level lmao
@crisp birch Athalia is situational for me it seems. If there is an enemy that makes you take big damage early on (Ogi for example) her stun can make a difference but I see no reason to make her a permanent team member
Dam I was hoping sheโd be op early on, alright thanks
She dies very fast usually
I've only relied on her a hand full of times and I got her a while back
Ascend Silvana or Vedan to Gold? Or keep both waiting for Isabella?
@light elm donโt have Isabella anyways, but the three make up for a trio
Personally would save for Grez or shemira. Or even farael
Since both of those cap at L+ and not higher
I know I'm pretty new but suggestions on whether or not I'm on the right track please
You need L+ fodder anyway
@eager tusk looks fine for now. Saveas and belinda/arden for mirael and raine soon
@light elm true enough
@light elm are saveas and Arden/Belinda any good as rare if I have others as elite/elite+?
Any ideas? Been stuck
@eager tusk belinda can't be rare. And you already have elite saveas
True. I forgot I just got elite saveas and I still have another day or two for belinda.
@glad ridge try removing hogan and putting tasi. That will get silvina to attack Tasi instead of ardyn keeping him up for his cc game more
It will also put silvina up front for sav to attack
And if tasi lives long enough to banish an enemy. Even better
She got shredded. Put her front line?
Yeah. that way Silvina is upfront for Sav to attack
She didn't last but a second lol
Silvina is just killing her then jumping to sev and then it's over
Focus level sev
Try arden front and hogan behind him, saveas mid. Maybe hogan can cc silvina and saveas can kill him
Doesnt mid backline usually go for bottom frontline though?
Wait nvm
Sav attacks closest
Mid goes for whoever is closest
Didn't work. Should I try a few times or is it level or just lack of comp
Could just be level or gear level. Always attempt more than once like noob said though
And level saveas to 120 before others.
Noted. thanks boys
Got stomped on one try, changed absolutely nothing and beat a level with only one death on second try. Rng is a big part
Yeah I end up restarting until itโs a good rng game (sometimes about 20 times just to get a good fight)
As for me. I'm about 70 tries with a few different setups and I'm set on that I need to level up now
I don't consider myself a scrub but how do you know good rng in this game? Just knowledge
Define good rng?
CC heroes and crit heroes need RNG the most
When to stop restarting @deft lodge stated
That's more of a gut feeling I suppose
@glad ridge just keep trying. if you see a few attempts get close. You'll know if it's possible. If after like 30 tries you get stomped every time. Give it a day to level up
If your frontline dies from bad rng just restart or change formation until something works out otherwise you can tell when you get good rng
Nah actually rng is all skill, stop being bad x
Smurpay gonna drop a novel soon buckle up
RNG is literally all skill 100% of the time, 50% of the time
Put lucius in crystal and overlevel saveas
How many levels is Saveas supposed to be in front of the rest of the team?
And I'd sub hogan + saveas for ferael and athalia, assuming nemora can't tank
10?
kay, thanks : D
@crisp birch get him to the max possible and then level others
Usually it's 19
Everyone at 101 and sav at 120
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Coz 121 needs dust 
That trash edit took far to long to do on mobile
hm
So many places to use that
Well you could but not in mid, same faction teams are usually late game stuff
When is it considered late game? :v
Just made it to 30 today, can anybody tell me if I'm doing good right now? or can anybody help me with my lineup? (top row)
It's a shame you don't have lucius at high level he's pretty good for stall
yeah i'm one of the numerous that came from idle, so i'm not exactly sure what i'm doing, like i'm doing good but i'm sure i can do a better?
@outer rapids your heroes seem pretty solid as of now
lineup looks like this right now, sometimes switching Grezhul with Angelo if i need a heal
I recommend dropping Belinda for Isabella though when using Grezhul
@outer rapids vedan isn't very useful until he's overleveled. Don't need ogi. I'd rather use a cc or dps hero. And level 1 hero to the max before focusing on others, usually this is a dps hero
Just so you're at least getting the 3x faction bonus
@light elm just using ogi as a tank/meat shield right now
so i could switch the other for Isabella basically?
Ira is pretty good dps at this level
Belinda's aoe is pretty remarkable so far tbh, not sure if i feel like dropping her, she's saved me quite a few times already
Also you don't have a cc atm looks like angelo is the best for now ๐ญ
Build an arden he's pretty good at 81
I personally would drop ogi. move Grez to front. Add Isabella and get the 3/2 buff
Buy a nemora when you have enough lab coins you desperately need a cc
and uh, out of the 60's (including Isabella & Angelo) should I just keep cranking them up all along or just concentrate on one or two?
@outer rapids focus one dps
Yeah I,ve read about that, it's the next thing i'll do for sure
Should I switch hogan for golus for the faction bonus
At this stage anything goes
Get one hero to its max before you hit the soft wall which MAKES you level the other heroes before you can level the main more 
also yeah i guess i'll have to check for a healer or something like that
@outer rapids nemora is a healer
But should I focus on hogan or golus more
oh sweet
I would go golus for his crazy high defense at low hp and his bonus damage toward the all to common wilder healer and cc
Fight me @light elm
I use golus on my mauler team so ๐คท
Hogans attack isnt high enough to do any major damage to big mauler healers imo

I don't
Sav, Skreg frontline
Numisu Ankhira and Khasos backline
Why do you keep sav in front 
Final moments of a battle. tasi banished my Sav. Skreg at like 0 hp, tasi killed skreg. Skreg dino buddy rammed and killed Tasi just before Sav finished off their Ardyn
Because Khasos seems better in back to start with
Sav dps is more when he has more health so he's usually tucked safely into a corner
What lineup should I be using given my current heroes?
@pure nest also depends on who you're fighting and where you should position them
Act 9 atm
Lucius estrilda saveas
Arden tasi Fawkes belinda pick 2
That's the generic team
Maybe silvina for belinda as well
Boost Sav to 140 now that others are at 120. Use sav ardyn tasi lucius and serius?
My guess anyway
He probably knows better than me ^^
Yea seirus works fine for estrilda
Been stuck in this annoying stage for a minute now, should I swap someone else for a healer? Only one I got is epic nemura
Estrilda seems to die far to fast for me
Aight thanks peeps
Basically a worse version of Athalia?

At least Athalia gives me a faction bonus for any faction
Try nemora for vedan and make sure shemira doesn't get cocooned
Oops I meant numisa
Ankhira and enemy Savs are my nightmares
So the stage I'm on decided to throw both at me at once
I wish I had nemora๐ฐ
Help here
@fading elbow arden for vedan then
@cinder aurora try shemira top
Or at the back and replace skrieg with thoran
Anyone have any advice for beating 12-40?
Tasi and nemora for estrilda and khasos
Should i add saveas to my lineup
I ran the same team but arden for tasi
Put brutus top maybe
@pale kettle oh yea saveas is a beast
Ok
Can you tell me all the heros i should add to my lineup
And that i should nax out
Max
I dunno what you have
Thank you @light elm
Dm me, a mention gets lost in the channel. It might be a while before I can msg back though
Yeah? Alright
Lol it takes 90k per level and I get like 250k a day it takes a while
Yea I know but focus on 1 dps not 2
But alright
Thanks
So Arden is a lot weaker then cedar for power so what should I do?
Vedan*
Alright
What should my lineup be and who should i be leveling?
@light elm thanks man your advice helped me beat 6-24 ๐ ๐ ๐
Been stuck here for 2 days, idk what to do, if i put my cc that silvi gonna kill it instantly
@arctic cradle Not sure if others would agree but I would say Lucios, Brutus, Athalia, Raine, and Sav.
Been here for 3 days. Not bothered by it, just wouldnโt mind a little progression
Thane is really good early game for damage estrilda top tier celestial too
Need help with my line up too ๐
Wtf
There u go
Hell ueah just passed 7 40
@dry owl SHEMIRA and arden
She gonna be hard stuck at elite, might as well drop her 
Ok his there is one formation I think I need to change but here are my heroes I keep getting defeated for some reason
@pale kettle only level up 5 heroes so you have more resources, just use the crystal to copy the level of ur top 5
What crystal
Also, the mini boost from formation bonuses can net u some wins
I'm new to this
Stuck at 5-36. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm unsure what to focus on leveling
I see u have not accessed crystal yet, it's stage 4 I think, basically copies the lowest level of your top 5 heroes
Oooh
So you only have to share your resources for 5 heroes
@covert path ezizh Fawkes Arden nem and maybe ogi. Lots of cc, and also have formation bonuses (even 30% Def buff from ezizh)
Vedan Shem ferael ezizh and Fawkes can also be good
Less cc but more damage
@vale kraken thanks! Would you recommend more cc or damage?
Or is that a personal decision?
I'd recommend cc coz it's what I run XD
I just keep getting destroyed by Brutus ๐ญ
Ooo
So I should ignore my vedan and Shem for now?
Lol nice, Arden main dps ๐
@covert path Try get hogan + estrilda as your tank
DPS will be shemira
vedan can help dps + tank
and the last one should be etiher Rare Angelo or Rare Mirael, it's up to you which one you want to transcend
Any ideas?
So I was wondering what my lineup should be and what hero I should upgrade the most
Y'all can PM me if you want to
@calm kelp i think athalia is better than belinda, but it wont make much difference for now, maybe wait until all 121 or try focus Lv 140 saveas to kill niru ASAP
@silent terrace does ezizh fit in there at all?
Ezizh is good bcs of the bonus he gives, literally makes my troopes last 30% longer
@covert path im really sorry, i never play ezizh yet, so i am not confident enough to tell you that, you can try replace vedan so that u have ezizh's bonus + 3 lightbearer that i told you
@fast rapids Before any of your hero can get 161, Saveas is still best one in my opinion
Saveas highest damage, brutus can hold for 4second before he finally die, it will buy alot of times for your saveas to kill all
the remaining 3, i am not sure, but i won't recommend using arden before he reach lv 141
I'll help provide theories that can work well with brutus+saveas
Options :
a. ALL DAMAGE Team , Since your brutus can easily hold 3 enemies busy for 4second, use those 4 seconds wisely , for example silvina can easily destroy backline while saveas destroy frontline.
b. Tank+Support Team , if your saveas level is higher than above, for example other is still 80/81 and your saveas is 101, just use 4 other hero as tank/support for your saveas to clear their team. I remember most of my campaign, my saveas 1v5 most of them until chapter 11
should i focus on getting saveas to legendary?
or focus on shemira?
not sure if your thane can tank, but if he does, you could legendary him with your two hogans. (but i don't use thane). you might want a second opinion since i don't use thane
@pale kettle
Am I on the right track?
@errant solstice yes
https://imgur.com/a/JrLBSpt anyone got an idea besides afkโing for a week?
AFK for more than one week 
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Promise. I'm not even close to 160 heroes after a week of leveling them to 141
Well I donโt need 160 heroes to pass this stage hopefully
RNG got me this far with Belinda ults going crazy off Raine ults
But now my heroes just melt it seems. Cant counter Silvina and I need to throw Athalia at Saveas to have a chance at a Lucius ult.
But even then I just die
Iโm really struggling on mauler / Brutus stages. Any advice on who to use or level?
@lethal bane ss of the stage pls
You're underleveled and Belinda shouldn't be on frontlines
I was just experimenting that run. Was originally using this (accidentally posted wrong pic last time, oops)
switch Fawkes and Ezizh around and try that
Stuck
@acoustic lagoon switch Belinda and Athalia around, you don't want Ankhira to wrap
It worked! Thanks @muted cairn. Just curious, why did the switch have such a big impact?
Stuck too ๐
@lethal bane Brutus will mess you around so Fawkes can take him out of the picture for a few seconds which then leads Brutus to hopefully be the last alive so all your Heroes focus on Brutus
any ideas to pass 9-16? iโm always out of time to kill them all ๐ฆ
@whole spoke switch Athalia and Thane around
@stiff ridge can try switching Nemora and Arden around so Nemora charms the Dreaf
any1 got some idea how to take 11-38 down I'm stacked there for 4 days now
@proper crater ss
ur god
@stiff ridge YAY
@muted cairn It's up in this chat just before Polar with his post
you helped him with suggestion to switch position (switch Fawkes and Ezizh around and try that)
Pls help me
back row (in order): Nemora, Belinda, Lucius. front (in order): Hogan and Brutus @proper crater
oh I'll do my best thanks for suggestion
Ok ty @solid adder
Also not sure how Thane performs at that stage
You could try going more control with Lyca
Belinda will shred those maulers
Also, Kaz isn't that great this early
I just cant go from hereee :(
@proper crater need those leg+ heroes.. damn thats sad
yeah it's suck so much ๐
im close to the same problem.
What about Brutus nemora arden tasi belinda?
true. arden and tasi could CC alot
@glad oasis I do hope you don't end up like me ๐
or brutus lucius tasi arden nemora
@proper crater thx man
but i think that second team lacks dmg
What team would u choose?
I upload picture moment
Dont know if i take ezizh for this seiros or so..
Belinda for raini? Or what would u do?
Brutus shemira tasi arden nemora is pretty much the OP meta team right now
and endgame you'd just swap in lyca
for arden
@loud dagger can we beat it without any union ๐ค
@pale kettle I'd say Brutus + shemira front, tasi nemora lyca back row
Retire the lvl 2 green :p
@pale kettle only level up your main 5 heroes and put the rest into the Resonating Crystal. It's pointless to level up more
Oki
@pale kettle Leave Vurk be for now, he's not good early
Use Lucius, estrilda, Belinda, tasi and one of your choice for now @pale kettle
Ascend those blues first @pale kettle
I would do Lucius Hogan Estrilda Belinda Tasi
Put Estrilda in the middle spot back row
Eventually you'll want to replace hogan tho
Angelo + Lucius makes a tanky light team
Yeah but Angelo is pretty bad tho ๐
I'm going crazy with this chapter 11, if I beat it I can get Nemora to L+ but stuck so close :/
hey i kinda stuck in act 6 since 2 days , any advices ?
first 3 rows are elite+
@pale kettle a bit underleveled
@pale kettle sometimes that's the best thing to do
alright thank you !
@proper crater how's shemira's survivability front row at this point?
@pale kettle you can tap on each hero to add them to the reset
@solid adder gimme 1 min I'll test it with best eq I have
@solid adder should o reset my main heroes and level up the good ones
No Lyca is unfortunate but you could try Brutus + Shemira and then your 3 wilders back row
@pale kettle arden
Tasi Arden Nemora
Bashor
@pale kettle Yeah reset all but the main 5
your substitutes will be lvled in the crystal
@solid adder she got destroyed on this stage in 4 hits ๐ with fraciton bonus od 3 + 1 + 1
That Estrilda destroyed her
Let's see
U guys seriously need cc
@solid adder If you wanna suggestion something to put as 5 team, I can make recording of fight to see her in action
@vale kraken which 2 should I reset
@pale kettle I'd use Hogan, Estrilda, Lucius, Belinda and Tasi
for now
Oh
At least one enemy locker (tasi/Fawkes) is a must have. Makes fights much easier
If recommend using Hogan estrild, Belinda Arden tasi
@proper crater give me a second :p
Tho it lacks damage
Or back row
Now my team is the first 5
@solid adder sure just ping me
Any tips for my Formation or on what I should focus? I just cant get past 6-39.. im Only 5 days in and not that experienced.. would appreciate any help
Arden
@solid adder here
Arden in Lyca out
@pale kettle yeah, try that ๐
First 5 i take
tell me how it goes
Could use a formation bonus tbh @pale kettle
@pale kettle it doesn't really matter that much right now... could do Arden to swap him in for estrilda vs certain comps
@vale kraken throw my lyca out for Arden? why
Sometimes what u can't beat with brute force can be beaten by cc
Cc is arden right?
Ok thanks then i change saveas for arden
I'm using a full cc team. Damages be damned . I destroy dps teams tho ez pz
Wow arden does a lot of dmg ^^
He does
Only because mage gears always show up in lab shop XD, almost full mythic equipments that one, just need the hat
Arden didnt do shit for me 
No, since Hogan is a frontliner
I'm confused, why are your hero levels so low?
@orchid yew not sure why you're levelling your Saveas, waste of hero essence
Can someone help me with this? Ive tried some formations but none seem to work
@muted cairn did him at 1st day. no more lvl for him. will reset him
@orchid yew ah, okay
@dull wadi cause dust consuming so fast
@elfin matrix either, you dont really need another Shemira at that level
Alright thanks a bunch!
@elfin matrix shem for sure, make legend if possible by rolling on Graveborn day
Is there a way to prevent the enemy khasos from recking my whole team am 1h on it still nothing
@hardy pivot have you tried
shem, vedan, thoran, brutus, saveas
try focus kill niru first tho
Ill give that some tries thanks :)
@uneven parcel have you tried 4 of lv 61, and lv 100 saveas
if you can buy time for saveas, saveas should be able to solo carry whole team
try same lineup,
change hogan position to brutus
Not yet not
I will give it a shot
What do I do?
Which department should I get my guaranteed elite from?
Pls help with team comp
@lean flower i am suggesting niru instead of tasi, but i am not sure, the problem is you don't have much damage to feed your niru damage and hp
silvina would be good to replace tasi if you have one
@pale kettle saveas khasos tank, niru saveas shemira behind
make sure your niru didnt die too fast, you can feed your niru and make him damage and hp
if possible , don't level them at the same level like that, it will be better to have Saveas level 121 first while the rest share the level
@silent terrace he just gets cocooned no matter where i put him xD
Does like 20-40k dmg(which is same as before...)
@pale kettle sry , saveas niru shemira behind while khasos and brutus tank
@uneven parcel yes he will get cocooned, do you have that dura grace that give you dodge 10 and hp 8%? maybe u can keep spamming until you get certain condition [ your saveas dont get cocooned while you deal high crit ] and perhaps that's how u can win it, or just wait for afk reward to get higher level hero hahaha
I just canโt seem to get pass this stage. Any guides?
Help pls
@potent badger current team lack damage, only survivability
idk about higher chapter, but until chapter 11, i currently still using same logic
you must have 1 hero with high level, higher than the rest to solo carry your team while other buying time for that hero
it can either be your saveas / shemira ,[choose one] whichever suits your situation
if the solo carry is possible to reach lv 101 while the rest is lv 80, should guarantee you 80% to pass that stage
Ahhhh ok man thanks for the help
@grizzled galleon arden instead of estri
@silent terrace well I will sacrifice myself to let iron saevas safe the one possible future out of the 40 million against T'kha(n)sos
@potent badger was thinking, shemira, vedan, isabela, thoran <- shemira should be able to solo carry, 5th member should be tank since those 4 still lacks a tank, but i dont see any brutus, so idk what to do as well ahaha sry
Iโm trying to work on the Brutus part haha but Iโll try that, thanks once again
@bronze fractal thx, I will try , but lucius die very quickly
@grizzled galleon i really want to help but i cant see any way without brutus
i pass that stage using saveas L+ lv 141, brutus RARE lyca RARE nem RARE , Arden L+
by keep playing until their saveas got charm while my arden root good enemies + my saveas crit them
abuse wilder mode
Why not brutus in front and saveas back
Wen Saveas become good. He die quicly in the begining
Oh I got ignored lol
My team performs by far the best with:
Lucius, Arden, Lyca, Nemora and Tasi.
It feels somewhat wrong, but every other combination did way worse.
Any recommendations?
@summer axle from 121 he is very good
@keen lagoon try saveas for one of the cc heroes
Im stuck here
Your front line is pretty bad
@light elm I did, but then the enemies often steamrolled me, even after several tries, while the other combination managed to do it first try
Hogan for niru
@upper path sry bud, didnt see you there
i would recommend wilder since abusing wilder is the best on this game, but then you don't have much wilder, and looks like you have a lot more mauler, so perhaps go mauler until you have legend plus brutus ๐
Get saveas to 121 he performs vastly better from then on
Who has better CC, Ogi or Arden
@real heart Arden lol
@summer axlereplace vedan or silvina with another tank or cc
@real heart Arden is so strong he is even listed with the mythic heroes, even though he stops at legend
I need some grave tanks
Any tanks work forget about faction bonus
Thanks @keen lagoon
Arden was the best cc until tasi came along. People used to play arden against level 220 enemies in chapter 21
@light elm I love Tasi aswell, so I thought why not both. And they win me levels with ease where other even max leveld stop being useful (on my level)
@keen lagoon first of all, i dont think u need lv 138 arden
arden before 141 only root 2 max, so it doesn't matter if its 138 or 121 or even 101, still worth the same in my opinion
but if you have lv 138 saveas, that's different story, he can solo carry your team , try one
arden nemora tasi , saveas brutus
3/5 enemies cant do anything, then Tasi puts them all to sleep, while Arden shields and roots around, Lucius gets his buff off
@silent terrace The "funny" part was the arden lvl 138 outdamaged Saveas at lvl 138, where I thought this is a fkin joke
@silent terrace Ill reset all levels again and will try it out soon, Ill come back with feedback ๐
how is that possible? perhaps your saveas died too fast?
No equip or dies instantly
make sure brutus in position 1, position 1 tank 3 enemies, while position 2 tank 2 enemies
only change saveas to position 1 , if enemy have ira to reduce saveas healing on position 2
@silent terrace I think I will have enough for Legend but not Legend plus...
Since you will need 2 Brutus to do that.
@upper path yes true
u have Brutus E+ now, 2 other E+ you get L
just keep rolling that faction until you have 2 brutus again right? ๐
@silent terrace The ult shield artifact on Brutus?
Don't invest in brutus if you can't legend+ him, his e+ and legend is almost equal in powerlevel
@keen lagoon i put on saveas since it helps with dodge
usually my saveas is the only left where he finish the remaining 2-3 heroes by himself
Keep rolling the faction scrolls on maulers if you want brutus that's what I do on my alts
I'm going to summon 20 later though I guess I'll see which direction the game wants to take me
10 normal and 2700
@silent terrace and who of those 5 to put it on: Brutus Tasi Saveas Nemore Arden and in which order to line up?
I got 1 brutus but no tasi in any server as my starting epic
@silent terrace I mean the crit item
I have tasi in some server
@light elm GFL meant to put the shield one on him for Dodge
Try tasi then she's kinda okay for it too
Any suggestions? Think I'm just at an exp wall
@light elm Tasi with the crit artifact :o?
You want attack speed on dps or cc
I'm stuck on 6-28 because my Frontline gets wiped fast, should I level them up first or...
You're leveling equally, level 1 hero to max instead
@tired frost read pinned messgaes
And then level all
@keen lagoon
crit item gave to anyone, it simply helps Physical reduction so u can feed it to brutus, but it doesn't really matter since the strat is brutus only for meatshield
the energy artifact i put to nemora to help
as for line up, i need to see enemies before i can say
but most of the time, i put Brutus at top front so he absorb 3 enemies damage while Saveas at bot front
the remaining wilder at behind, nemora is placed either back top, back bot, in front of the strongest enemy so she can charm them to your advantage
while arden in back mid, root the remaining enemies [ hopefully the charm one doesn't get root ]
Belinda can't even ulti before she's killed
@keen lagoon yea, tasi with crit artifact sounds good as well
@silent terrace Bot front saveas, very interesting idea. Thanks!
Why would you keep saveas front 
@keen lagoon he should be able to survive when he is 121 since he got heal everytime he kills while his ult is active huehue
@silent terrace Well, that did work out, I instantly cleared the next couple stages
@light elm which hero first
i know, i said from my experience ๐
I always help people in here but get ignored when i need help
Need help to pass this stage
His dps depends on health so usually he is tucked away in the corner
<@&546913281135214593> anyone about to help me out?
@proven echo i would love to help but I really dont know how
@proven echo i can try to help you, but you need luck as well
@proven echo it's probably a level wall.
dont worry i have friends that normally help me but they're busy
How to counter Ogi he is so strong
Stuck on 8-32
@blazing stratus saveas for athalia try it maybe you'll clear. But you lack levels
@proven echo Your team looks like the best option given what you have. So yeah, a level/ascension wall
@GFL could u recommend me the guild boss setup at my lvl?
@exotic jungle I was thinking that :/ it got past 10-20 then got stuck at 10-21
Stuck at 9-36 ๐ฆ I use the best team ? I already tried with Fawkes and Arden instead of Ezizh
You migh want to place saveas top to kill off the weaker heroes. Leave golus last maybe. @proven echo
brutus tank their saveas
your nemora should charm enemy saveas
arden should root [ not enemy saveas ] and hopefully root that spider lady
your saveas should kill the top enemies and then he can hopefully kill the low hp centaur + enemy saveas
so you can perhaps change position your nemora to your saveas on that picture, and hopefully it works
Put nemora down, so nem can charm enemy sav
Lol, person above said it before me. :)
Is there anyway I can clear this stage lol. I get 10 faction scrolls if I do and I really wanna summon on today's faction ๐ญ
Ascended grez
Help please stuck
I don't think you can do it without levels
@keen lagoon soren is fucking shit because his charm is too overpowered on that level, so if u can reach the one below 1,5 is already fine
i kinda forget how much damage u can deal on that level
as for the daily guild boss, u can always make sure brutus to tank
belinda deals better compared to arden on guild boss, so i will say belinda + lucius
make sure the auto attack of the boss hit brutus not lucius
5th member any damage from mauler or lightbearer that u got, thane or estrilda or whatever hero u think can suits the 5th one
Damn, level tank next right ?
@wind willow change arden to athalia
I think i hit a level wall, but still gonna ask for suggestions 10-32
@exotic jungle not working sadly, saveas needs to be removed as a threat, I dont have enough int gear to roll in belinda with good stats to abuse the mauler advantage and ascension is a problem as i dont have the $$ right now
Iโll give it a try
Lol, person above said it before me. :)
@exotic jungle high five then? xD
Nope using athalia was a horrible mistake
And saveus top side also didnโt help since now the damage is split
Damn
@ashen mantle try keeping lyca forward and saveas behind him instead of shem
Kk leme try that a few times
@wind willow maulers are weak against light so you'll probably need a few levels if you can't clear
What does extra damage to light ?
Need help for 8-32
I probably just need to level my tank higher to stall then :/
It needs to be tomorrow already. Have 50 faction pulls
Maybe belinda arden for khasos lyca but I doubt it'll help
@wind willow morvus can slow saveas, so in my opinion morvus should die
how about brutus top front , so he tank 3 heroes
can you try athalia bot front, so he can cc estrilda and probably killing it faster with saveas on back bot to kill estrilda fast
the remaining 2 graveborn heroes is actually you must try yourself where to position them
Iโll try it out
You're gonna want cc heroes from now on though so use faction scrolls and stuff accordingly
@sharp meadow
first of all, level 121 your saveas, other lv 100 also fine, 121 saveas is so much stronger than lv 120 saveas
try not to feed your lyca, so u can kill niru first
on that matchup, the first thing u must make sure is enemy niru must die or else he can 1 v remaining of your hero
how about giving level to any other mauler hero instead of lyca so u have 4 hero buff?
@silent terrace you fucking god
Well tried most of the changes but it seems im just on a gear/level wall :(
@wind willow hahaha ty
I beat it thanks to your idea about using athalia to cc
God fucking damn never would have thought of that
@silent terrace im 500dust short, thats why i cant get him to 121
Killing niru isnt a problem for me, but theres still vedan and golus alive
@sharp meadow is that 500 dust short because you have 5 hero lv 101?
what if 2 hero lv 101 while the rest lv 100?
but of course u could just wait until 2 days to buy dust from daily store ๐
101 to 100 is quite a drop
What do you think is better? (Or something different)
if u can kill niru and that purple demon fast, hopefully your saveas is not targeted by silvina when she ult and you can kill silvina fast
when saveas 121 , everytime he kill he get hp if the ult is active, so my plan is letting your saveas 1 v 2 remaining enemy
Ok ty, guess iโll just wait and get sav 121
Try arden for nimisu
Should i lvl up saveas or first belinda and raine to 121
Tips?
Who's my best team for now.
@random spindle niru should die, try hogan instead of ogi to receive better buff
Which heroes I must focus at this point
I think I've made a mistake leveling more than 5 heroes...
You have
@unreal ember not trying to be bad guy here, but u have 130k difference, it's kinda hard
stuck for 7 days after chapter 9 is usual things ๐
Any1 know some good lineup to get this chapter 11 behind me
I will try it or I'll just have to wait to get L+ to get 141 on all
@night gyro
hey there, i'm not sure if you are using resonating crystal or you level up them manually
i kinda think u level few of them using manual, i would strongly suggest you to reset most of them
only level up 5 of your strongest heroes at that level
the remaining heroes can be level up on resonating crystal
u have graveborn team, Shemira will be your solo carry, so make sure she is the most buffed
for example Lv 81 shemira while the remaining 4 is lv 61 is better than 5 heroes lv 72
Silvina can kill enemy backline fast thus feeding your niru more status
Hopefully vedan can help niru tank as well
Thoran should be main tank [ absorb from 3 enemies ]
and shemira is your main damage
Thank so I reset the others
@mortal iris it's just the front tanks die so fast :/
I just played around
And found out that, niru , Belinda and raine
Ult resets
Is so fun to watch
@proper crater
I would start with one of these 2 and see how it goes, adjust from there.
- Shemira
- Brutus
- Tasi
- Nemora
- Arden
or
- Lucius
- Brutus
- Shemira
- Khasos/Numisu
- Saveas
What do you think guys? or should I do some changes?
well ofc I will lvl up those who are still lvl 1
@limber badge thaks I'll try it now
I do hope something from the combination end up working ๐
any tipp ?
WAIT
HOW CAN A ELITE
Be lvl 120
Even in the resonation crystal, even though elite is max100
Helpp
Is it just the lvl, or do you get the lvl buffs
Heroes placed in the crystal are capped only by their "base" rarity. Aka, any "Legendary Tier Hero" will be able to hit 160 in the crystal even in their blue forms.
@sturdy zinc
Its why people lvl their highest tier heroes
So do you get the buffs? Meaning the skill unlock
yup
Yeah rip xD
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
Yea same here
Keep in mind a 160 blue is still considerably weaker than a 160 Legendary+
Yeah you just need to level 5 heroes that are the highest rank
@silent terrace holy dude I went up 16 stages so far because of saveas ๐
Thanks you people
@silent terrace I just finished 9-40 first try
Yeah but it doesn't have the bonus stats that a legendary+ does from lvling
Rip I'm stuck at 9-38 lol
Tbh, the skills are more importsnt
To an extent I believe they are.
Like niru 121 skill
@keen lagoon What lineup did u use?
@limber badge I tried it's simple my front line dies to quickly ๐ I'll have to wait to get them to L+ or new hero
Any advice?
@potent tinsel Try
- Lucius
- Estrilda
- Arden
- Khasos
- Belinda
Who are those heroes you have on the third line?
Hi guys I am new and just wanted to know how I am doing and who to use
Couple of days played
8-40, see any options I'm missing? Trying sub belinda out yet silvina wrecking whatever backline i put in
Looks fine. Spend your diamonds tho. No need to hold on to them @broken silo
Lots of Lightbringers! @broken silo
You are very limited in team composition being so new but you have enough to make a perfectly serviceable early team for sure.
Hogan / Lucius front line
Nemora / Thane / Fawkes / Belinda back line
9-20... help ๐
@keen lagoon xD IKR
Anyone has some tips on the lineup?
@solemn crane Try Lucious/Brutus front, Arden, tasi, savaes in the back.
i need help too https://i.gyazo.com/f2abe49985da288f6500e450b41e6f7e.png
i just start the game today
someone help im stuck now 4-32
@pale kettle try change belinda to saveas, niru must die
hey guys
hello trash panda
just reset all except athalia for lvling your thane
and rush 61 one your heroes one by one
reset Angelo and Ira cus wasted Essence
on your**
8-40, any ideas? Trying diff back lines but all getting sniped
never put a Brutus against another Brutus
Can I ask why not?
it'll waste his immune
Ah okay.
silvana just wrecks my back line
and at that level, he will just die after his immune
@pale kettle i noticed u have many Rare heroes , like shemira, silvina, thoran, saveas
i would recommend them to get 101 , but rare only can get up to 100, so i think u should reset belinda and fawkes, make everyone lv 100 first
vedan 101 is nice,
let vedan tank in front bottom
thoran tank front top
silvina back top, saveas back bottom -> focus niru
shemira back mid
hopefully u can clear it
Thats not true at all. Brutus is perfectly fine in front of Brutus, especially when Hogan in position 2 will be CCing both Golas and Niru with his cleaves.
One issue is that you've put your Saveas in a position to target their Brutus, thereby wasting his very high dps output on Brutus shield. Also, Belinda will be getting Silvina'd so put her up to top so Silvina goes to Brutus after.
Backline should probably be Belinda, Vedan, Saveas
I will look at your roster for a better comp in a moment.
@chilly crater
@silent terrace I could try, but I don't have enough equipment for 3 assassins, so I'd have to wait anyway, thanks for the tip btw
@chilly crater ok here's some 500 IQ
Take all your gear off Brutus
Switch Belinda for Khasos
Try that and tell me what Silvina does
Using the positions I described above
Go get your gems from the portraits!
@proud grove
Gear wise, don't worry too much until you reach Mythic Gear Rarity
Gray > Green > Blue > Blue+ > Purple > Purple+ Yellow > Yellow+ > Red [ Mythic ]
but overall, you want to give your highest damage the best gear while the rest just okay gear.. any gear u can have is good enough for them
Just a general line up question, is it better to focus on high tier heroes or is it better to use lower tier heroes if it means getting faction bonuses?
@limber badge belinda hit brutus 1st (what was intention right), yet team still drops
i would suggest to + your gear once you reach yellow / yellow+ / red mythic since i learn it the hard way, i just waste gold to + them before that
Although you don't lose GEAR EXPERIENCE when you feed that gear to higher rarity gear, you did lose the gold when you + them
Can someone please help me out with 9-40? :)
Is 15-40 doable with these units, or am I likely stuck there until Shemira hits 181?
Ok thx for answering my gear question
@buoyant pier
https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
first check that
then, focus your resources on solo carry heroes
Your solo carry hero lv 121 + 4x lv 100/101 is better than 5 heroes lv 112
As for faction bonus, if you are still on chapter 11 or below, in my opinion faction bonus helps alot, unless you have a lot of super strong heroes
Yeah Iโve been looking at the tier list a lot and Iโve built my team around it.
And okay, thanks for answering my question!
Savaes has been carrying me a LOT and Iโm trying to get a Shemira to really cap my team off.
I may be cheesing a lot though with Fawkes and Tasi together
@pale kettle typically you want enemy Niru to either die quickly or last. With a high profile backline and a Vedan that will disappear at some point, I'd try to kill him sooner. Put Brutus in line with him. Althalia's row will determine who your Saveas kills first. Arden is going to severely hurt your team's damage, so he's probably top priority, so also switch Shemira and Athalia. Let me know how that goes
Thanks, going to try something out
I am wondering if I have anything I can change here though, just in case I Could be doing something more optimally.
Iโm still VERY new and I know Iโve made some mistakes so Iโm not too torn up if something is horribly wrong, but it would be nice to get on the right track sooner rather than later.
is it common for me to keep getting stuck on a certain stage at such an early level?
its normal
Is hogan good
I've been stuck and tbh it sucks cause i cant do anything at that moment to improve
Thatโs where the โAFKโ part of the game comes in lol.
yeah, but i just wanna keep playing xD
But anyway, are there any changes I can make to my team to make it better? Any shuffling around or replacements I can do just in general to be more consistent?
afk arena is an idle game sometimes you need to afk to level up
maybe i should pick up another game to keep myself busy while waiting for my afk
I play Fate/Grand Order when Iโm not playing AFK Arena.
You really do have to just AFK sometimes to make progress.
@buoyant pier keep re-positioning your hero til you deal a better damage.
Get as far as you can to make sure youโre getting as much afk stuff as possible.
@royal timber Iโve been doing that! Just wanted to know if Iโm making some horrible mistake about using Lucius or Hogan instead of like, that one water guy or something.
yeap, i played cause my friend invited me to play and tbh ive been enjoying this game so far just wanted to know if getting stuck at an early stage is normal (im in chap 5 rn)
@buoyant pier try it
first open this https://www.afkarena.net/leveling
then you need to count, if you have resource to have 101 saveas + 101 golus while the rest is either 80 or 81 or higher
i'd say golus and hogan tank
lucius is too low level to tank at that level, better he stay at back so he can guaranteed use shield
Strategy on every kind of war is always the same, make sure you kill the weakest one, so..
saveas should stay at bottom back, so he can easily kill ogi + arden [ faction bonus ]
golus def is higher if he is low hp, so probably put him in front top [ he absorb 3 heroes damage ]
but if he die too fast, u can try change it to hogan position
keep finding the best place for golus, hogan, fawkes, lucius position
soon you will kill it, 30k difference is kinda possible for that stage
oo im gonna need that
@pale kettle what chapter
chapter 5
i used to keep resetting to learn better on this game
but you also need to understand this
https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
@buoyant pier no sometimes heroes just work better with other heroes. gears levels and ascension tier matters also sometimes
@silent terrace resetting? what do you mean by that
level of the heroes can be reset
back then i dont know about this https://www.afkarena.net/leveling
so i keep resetting and figure out if i can reach specific level for my specific heroes
ah i see thanks, i shall read these guides and perhaps it might improve my efficiency in the game :D
I need help with 8-16
@limber shale thoran top front
brutus back top
saveas must be lv 101 , back mid
vedan front bot
shemira back bot
saveas must be 101 as he is your damage , the remaining can be either lv 80 / 81 / higher
@still river can you print screen all remaining heroes as well
@red niche just did it :D thank you
@still river do you have 1200 cocaine? if yes , level your gollus to 101
so everyone will be lv 101 on crystal, you don't really need high level hogan , that's waste of hero exp if you can make everyone lv 101
then you can use saveas as your main dmg back mid,
put numiru on back top
after silvina finish killing him, hopefully she target your gollus and not your saveas
at this time, saveas can finish her
hogan tank front bot
athalia back bot
try 3 - 5 battle, if your numisu keep dying too fast, change numisu to be front top [ since he going to die , better him die fast ]
saveas probably will be at back top now, the goal here is to kill silvina fast when she is attacking numisu
@still river i forgot, try to make everyone's level is the same
i would suggest you to put all resource to saveas, but saveas is only elite, so u can't level him above 100, therefore better to have same level for everyone on your case
@silent terrace Damn, I do highly HIGHLY appreciate the change to Saveas since he got me a total of 28 stages, but man does the comp suck for the Peaks of Time ๐
@keen lagoon uheuheu, peaks of time is kinda different things, you need that items [ giving you hp when you kill enemy ] and then focus on [ attack + lfie steal of mauler increase ]
after those relics are aquired, usually i let my saveas tank 3 damage while my brutus tank 2 damage
always have nemora / lucius to help healing/shield your brutus, and NEVER auto ult on nemora / lucius, only use it when you need it ๐
@still river yes if u have 1200 dust
Help me with team
I have 4077 dust
level your ferael so u can reach 101
Any advice on how to get past this? XD
@still river Well if you really want to overlevel 1-2 hero, tried using damage dealer or some solo carry like shemira, brutus, vedan
Should I keep farael or used him to upgrade shemira
^same for you @pale kettle f you really want to overlevel 1-2 hero, tried using damage dealer or some solo carry like shemira, brutus, vedan
Good idea/ bad idea?
@hasty moon damn u have a lot of dps, with no tank on graveborn
if u have 141 silvina / shemira + 121 / higher on the rest
athalia + ezizh + 1 tank graveborn, that will be op line up
@arctic moss i think its good, depends on your line up though
Ult*