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@mint turtle Your Isabella adds nothing to that team right now. Ideally you want another tank up top as well, not Shemira. Personally, I'd switch up to the team below. You also need more levels on your Lucius
Athalia
Grezhul
Belinda
Lucius
Shemira
he is tankier than Estrilda, was important for tanking Brutus till Lucius used shield
@foggy bluff You're on a level that needs lightbearers in 6-28, which you don't really have....
@eternal apex aye aye, gonna save or reset for that :D. Thanks
also all my heroes were lvl 81
@eternal apex In about 2 hours I will get Epic+ Belinda
@foggy bluff You could try something like this, but it would need you ideally to level and gear both Hogan and Lucius, because they need to tank HARD
Raine
Lucius
Shemira
Hogan
Tasi
Need help stuck on 6-24 any advice?
ah in that case, if you can gear them @foggy bluff Just swap out tasi of the above team, and put in Belinda
@eternal apex Ok, thanks mate, I will try that ๐
Currently stucked on 6 20something with 3 legs enemies and i feel like its impossible to defeat them what do you suggest
@eternal apex thanks again, mate. after i switched Isabelle to Belinda, i passed that stage.
Does anyone has The Lightbringers on Legendary+ for the buff?
Can anyone help?
@mint turtle Awesome! ๐
Iโm not sure this belongs here but Iโm thinking of resetting raine and pouring the resources into Shemira. Thoughts?
@whole garnet @pale kettle @heady thistle You guys are my next in line, just be patient for a minute please!
@whole garnet Ferael is great late game, but not so much early on. You might want to try a team like this.
Shemira
Lucius
Arden
Hogan
Kaz
No problem! You're giving out replies like this is a drive thru and I love it.
OKay, thank you!
on my opinion i would say dont level the shemira but forget raine and lyca and get golus and saveas leveled up instead of them being on your crystal with them you will get a faction bonus and golus and saveas are really good especially saveas lyca is good but she isnt giving you a faction bonus same thing for raine
@heady thistle
@pale kettle Try subbing out Saveas for Belinda, and switching Lucius and Brutus around. You may have to wait until you can gear your lowest heroes to 81, that node is really tough when you're under levelled
Sure will do that
@proud tangle what do you mean by faction bonus and where can I see the bonuses?
@heady thistle When you get Belinda in the next couple of days, you should try this team. It might need you to ascend Estrilda because she's not hugely tanky.
Raine
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Shemira
Who should replace hogan?
Brutus.
im on the same boat as vladimir zoeebot but mine are kinda worse heroes and levels but i have more power ..
I'd also swap out Angelo for something better. @sour hound
@sour hound Your biggest problem is running both Nemora and Angelo in the same team. Sub out Angelo for Mirael, then put Mirael at the back and Nemora on the bottom
@heady thistle top left you see the like 5 crystal logo click on it to understand what faction bonus is
@proud tangle Unfortunately, your levels just aren't close to high enough. You need to get the whole squad over 81 ideally, and if not the whole team, Fawkes is the only one you can afford to be under that
i dont really think i can do any thing besides just afking for moer exp and get saves 81 ..
yeah
Who should I be leveling rn
@eternal apex Done, but what about hogan?
@eternal apex THANKS ALOT! I BEAT THE LEVEL!!
@acoustic coyote I would say your best lineup right now is a full lightbearer one
Raine
Lucius
Mirael(belinda when you get her)
Estrilda
Thane/Athalia (both work almost the same tbh)
I feel bad for you epic :(
@pale kettle Awesome mate!
@sour hound I would keep him. Brutus is a better character, but you don't have any synergies with him, and Hogan is tankier which is hugely helpful when paired with Lucius
i got valdimir on 6-24 he was stuck on 6-20 before he and i have a very similar line up he was struggling with it alot for these one i dont see a cheese method because on 6-20 they didnt had that much burst so you can afford to have shemira tank for lucius and just have them 2 tank with saveas as extra dmg behind them both for this one ankhira is quite the anoying brat sucking my lucius energy so he cant ult more than once and shemira will die frontline without lucius ults so she either goes backline and lucius dies no after 1 ult and she stays for a little or shemira and lucius die same time close to getting lucius second ult but ankmira starts sucking eberhy and it just stays on 99% of ult and lucius dies
thats an essay
Stuck at 5-12. Any advise?
Thanks man, so Raine huh, i swapped her for Angelo cuz I felt I needed some sustain at least.
dont worry vladimir im probably still behind you on days only day 4 when i get more exp i can beat it or maximum day 7 belinda will do 
@kind orchid Can you screenshot the enemy layout?
@acoustic coyote When you level up a bit, Lucius is a healer as well. Raine has incredible synergy with Mirael or Belinda.
@kind orchid get your heroes to the treshhold 61 abilities will level and will probably unstuck you
u should get lucius to 61 for sure
in which ratio should I upgrade my heroes?
he becomes a lot more tanky then
Canโt post picture would someone be willing to pm me for some advice?
Zoee help me :P when you're done with everyone else on the line haha I'm stuck again
im still kinda new to the game (4days but stuck on 6-24) but i would say swithc lucius and brutus and if lucius is still dying try to make shemira front line and lucius on middle with nemora on bottom left but again the lvl 61 treshhold is really strong @kind orchid get shemira and lucius there and you probably beat it
So currently I have my Frontline as Lucius Brutus, should I switch Brutus out for Saveas?
I just got two epic lyca so was able to get her to legend+. Been using a lineup of Brutus, Lucius, Saveas , Nemours, and Athalia and hit a wall. At 6-36. Any ideas to move or in or others to concentrate on?
@late bisondefinetely not
@kind orchid You're actually doing alright. Early game, a combination of Lucius, Estrilda and Shemira can carry you through most. I would change up your team a lot honestly. Try this, lemme know how it goes. Doubling up the tanks on the bottom side should help your sustain, while Shemira can just slowly aoe them to death as Lucius keeps you shielded
Fawkes
Lucius
Shemira
Estrilda
Brutus
Can Saveas go in back or is he not worth it at that point
@static marsh Carry > Tank > DPS > Support
saveas isnt tanky at all he kinda heals but the dmg he does to himself plus the enemy dmg with him as a front line is too much he isnt a tank he is a dps
@errant sky I cleared that one using Brutus, Lucius, Athalia, Belinda and Numisu. If your Lucius gets ult off, you should be able to clear it.
@pale kettle On that level, use the same strat... You just need levels ๐ฆ
Who should I concentrate on to beat 6-24 Brutus opponents are brutal
Okay @eternal apex
bro shem is such a beast
Basically my whole team gets whipped then Shem gets mobbed when I run Shem, nemora, tsai, Lucius and Hogan
@errant sky You got a screenshot of your level mate?
So this is my current team. (Im not stuck just planning) would I be better off switching my Silvina for Savius or is that fine
@eternal apex What is in your opinion the best Graveborn comp?
@late bison Try this team long term
Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Fawkes
i love silvina
@foggy scaffold Can you chuck in a screenshot of the level please?
Any recommendations on my lineup
@foggy bluff Honestly, Graveborn are best use in a hybrid in my opinion. Shemira works fantastically with any team that has Lucius, Nemora, or Khasos. For pure Graveborn though, pre level 160 I'd say Grez and Vedan front, with Shem Ferael and Isabella rear. Post 160, just the full ascended team
@errant sky You're a little short on Lightbearers which makes that level tough. I'd try something like this, and then just try switching in Saveas for different spots in the backline, or switching Lucius around. You might need to try a few times for rng to be in your favour
Athalia
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora
@foggy scaffold @sick arrow @cosmic yew This is my current queue guys, just try and be patient and I'll get to you ๐
So @eternal apex so this is a good long term team to run?
@late bison Switch Saveas and Lucius
@foggy scaffold You just need levels on Hogan unfortunately. He needs to be 81 to tank Brutus long enough, so does Lucius. Other than that, switch Shem with Nemora, that's a decent lineup though (if a bit short on damage...) If you have Belinda, you could try switching her up with Tasi too
Kk thx I figured the front line drops so fast
@sick arrow In general, you could try something like this. Vurk is pretty weak in my opinion, this team has no faction bonus, but has huge synergy with sustain and long term damage. It should get you through most of the early chapters
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Vedan
Saveas
Hi ! I'm new here. Can I ask for help too?
@cosmic yew You need another tank front line. Ideally you want Lucius on the top side in that matchup, so he can avoid Brutus until he gets his shield up. Ferael is also not adding much there. Your best bet would be subbing in Belinda and Hogan if you have them. The option in brackets could work too, but would require looots of gear and levels on Lucius
Tasi
Lucius (Estrilda)
Belinda
Hogan (Lucius)
Saveas
@mystic wedge Shoot! Here to help ๐
Need a hand?
@eternal apex Thanks a lot ๐
@still radish Try putting Shemira middle, Arden top, and Thane bottom in the backline. Unfortunately, right now you also need levels (every at 61+) to really be able to tank the damage from Brutus and Saveas
Ok thanks
@mystic wedge What seems to be the problem? What happens here?
@mystic wedge Try subbing out Seirus for Saveas (Seirus is a tank, not a DPS), and then put Saveas at the bottom and Nemora at the top
Otherwise, your lineup is pretty strong, that centre core 3 is really good
@eternal apex Ok, thanks !
I am getting the feeling the lightbearers die fast
They do have factional advantage over LB
@molten moat Don't know, Lucius dies really fast
Yup. It's that thing then.
@molten moat Yep, same feeling here
Try using wilders if you can, but yeah try using saveas to truck the enemies out.
If it doesn't work, try using ulmus.
Ulmus and Seirus in front
or something
@molten moat Ulmus is good ? Just summoned him
@mystic wedge Oh of course I forgot about graveborn bonus. Try a Wilders lineup, something like this. The extra tank at the back (Lucius) should help him survive long enough to shield, and then take over front line when Ulmus goes ranged mode
Nemora
Seirus
Lucius
Ulmus
Saveas
Unfortunately, you may need to get your crystal heroes to 101 to make it work...
Nemora tanking silvina is also good.
Any tips for my team? Is it bad that I don't use any strength units?
Stuck on 6 - 32
im at 101 right now
@low wren Let me see.
@low wren You need levels, because your wilders are taking extra damage from the maulers
@low wren you don't have enough damage for your line up
two tanks
and 3 supports
Try swapping one wilder out
and use Kaz.
Or... uh.
Hello I've been stuck on 6-36 for 3 days, maybe my team is no longer good enough?
@orchid agate Yeah that team just won't work long term. You need to sub in Seirus for Isabella, then move Nemora to the back. Try this lineup
Tasi
Seirus
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
@granite whale Hold on let me see this
ok
@eternal apex yeah the problem is that I can't get my seirus and lucius to 100+ because theyre just epics
@eternal apex @molten moat Ok, thank you for your help !
@granite whale huhyour line up is good. what seems to be the problem?
my lucius gets like killed in 4 hits by the horse guy
cant even get shield off lol
brutus
wait lemme do it again to see
oh she targets the spider person cause hawkes pulls brutus away
@unique musk You need better tanks to take the damage from Brutus and Saveas. Ideally, you want something like this lineup below. You need two tanks on the bottom line to hold Brutus until Shemira/Belinda can kill them all. You should have a Belinda soon (unless you ascended Angelo with her, in which case, baaaaad move, Angelo is useless), so you just need a Hogan or you could try with Khasos there...
Shemira
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Estrilda
wtf r u saying SPider girl has less def than arkadios? tf
Hahaha Ok...
You can't bait the horse guy.
Try swapping lucius and thoran
@orchid agate If you leave them in the crystal, they'll go to 101 when your Vedan does.
positions
ok
That's exactly what I did with Belinda :( @eternal apex
@orchid agate Ulmus is a weird character... He starts a tank, but then turns ranged. So you need a melee character behind him to take the heat when he ults
@unique musk Wellll there's your problem ๐ Angelo is kinda useless, unfortunately
You should not use Auto when usiong ulmus
when he needs to tank, he shouldn't do his ult
Yaaay, I'm not blocked anymore!
@molten moat I just run an extra melee with him, he works in a hybrid squad with that
@eternal apex I guess I'll do what I can with the heroes I have, thanks!
I wish i got ulmus on my wilder alt, sadly...
Yeah he's really a niche character that shouldn't be in your main lineup
These are all my wilders
Not sure if Ira is good either, thinking of sacrificing her next when I legend my arden
Ira is pretty useless past early game, definitely use her as ascension materials for arden
what
Ira is probably the most damaging hero out there...
If I were you, I'd use that Ira in E+.
I have proof screenies
She's got by far the least utility of the wilders, and she can't go past 160
that Ira E+ > Leg Kaz.
I'm surprised too... IDK she's the one carrying in this chapters.
Don't use wilders there, Brutus will kill them all I guarantee it
@molten moat I remember that level lol I beat it by putting Athalia opposite Ira so she got pushed into melee range ๐
I'm stuck on 6-4. Any advice?
Okie doke, are you good to handle things for a while here @molten moat ? I need food lol
@eternal apexsorry that's an older picture I'm up to this now
oh damn. Okay I'll take @nimble gust and @orchid agate quickly, but anybody else is outta luck lol
@nimble gust I don't know the stage, but I can already tell you that your best bet is going to be Lucius Hogan frontline, Saveas Estrilda Athalia backline
You need levels man, both your tanks need to be at least 75 ideally
Yop
I tried that one, I'll try it again. I was using khas for the bonus lifesteal
And I'll work on the levels. Thanks. :)
@orchid agate Stand Lucius vs Golus, Seirus top. Backline: Tasi top, Lyca/Ira mid, Arden bottom
Who should I be using for campaign and arena respectively?
Yeah, she's insane unfortunately. You need to hope Lucius gets his shield up in time
Try using your ult before hers get full
Because she does more damage the more energy you have
Atleasy with her ult
@flat ridge I personally would use Lucius Hogan front, Estrilda behind Hogan, Belinda mid, Saveas behind Lucius
Okay guys I gotta run now. Good luck
@nimble gust Iโm getting slapped by that Kas too
Okay thanks
hey, im stuck at 6-24:( can anyone help me i dont know what iam doing wrong, i dont want to use wilders because they die in a second and dont get there ult in time
Stuck again, what should i do, change format or afk?
@calm kelp you should be able to beat that easily with that power and levels o.o
i can't even kill 1 enemy lol
Dafuq
Ello, stuck in tower, should i change something or just wait it out?
maybe try to switch saveas with arden and hoper that he roots who you need to root in general just get more levels lvl 81 lucius is a rly big powerspike
i would say level heroes based on abilities like get lucius on 81 forget others and then move on to the next hero istead of trying to get them all slowly up
Can anyone help me make a main team? Tyty in advance
Oka, i'll focus one
@lime mesa remove vedan and angelo
and use belinda and lucius
Damn.
Full 5-man formation buff
๐
Awesome thanks! @serene urchin
BEGGING for someone with legendary dragon slayer union to add as a friend. Im not a noob, and will be active for a very long time
@lime mesa LOL you pinged the wrong person
Whoops xD omg lol
Can anyone help me with my lineup?
Idk what should I swap up for especially with the new Easter event coming Iโm planning on getting Brutus but idk where to put him/ swap who for him
Here are my heroโs
Idk srsly how I got past was luck I think and a lot of leveling
lvl up more
@molten moat nah not gonna work this nasus guy shits on any of my front line crits like 16-17k
Kevin can help me? Rn my squads TOP row pictures up abit but Iโll be trying to get Brutus during the event but dk who to replace who for
@balmy scroll me?
^aye
Ok who should I level?
maybe all to be on par
@weak panther i'm not really that good with most info of this game but imo i would remove seirus
I usually put nemora in front to get her ultimate as soon as possible to let your team get out of the initial burst but if sheโs getting bursted as well or gets ult late then he just lvl up your squad and thanks Kevin
instead of getting new hero upgrade your current hero thats much better
Also nemora is basically I would say an off tank not a tank but can soak ip damage very well
I am stuck at the same spit. that Brutus is a monster
Try getting saveas to 101 first and run nemora/arden and lyca, with saveas back to
@weak panther
maybe also try diff heroes/change palcement
Kanon if thatโs for me thanks for the idea also is there a hero which can go back line? Itโs one of my problems rn where I just canโt take out my back lane
But who to swap
For saveas
So do I put saveas Arden and Lyca back lane and remove luscious for Brutus and remove fawkes?
Fawkes/lyca/nemora is to much support in the back you need a carry like sav @weak panther
Does addition of brutus and khasos change what i should go for? Should i do 5 mauler team?
normally i will say lucius and seirus but they are still elite
Alr but I can legend my fawkes very soon or should I hold on that
maybe not do a full on mauler
@glossy juniper dont stress faction bonus it's to early in game
prioritize dps or tank. dont ascend support first
Whos 5 strongest that i have then?
@weak panther as long as you dont have to feed him ascend hero
Poppy I'm curious as to how you beat the one before that lol
Meaning? I still donโt u derstand what you mean Ik
@glossy juniper i ran Sav, Nimisu Khasos brutus and athalia around where you are...and just pumped everything into sav until he hit 100 and left the rest at 61. took me to 6-8 now i am raidsing brutus up and the rest to 80
@glossy juniper lucius brutus nemora arden numisu
Ok awesome tnx @edgy granite
@dusty snow use Arden
put ira instead of numisu
No savas? He does lot of dps lol
Sav will carry you for a while with just pure damage output, but formation will be key. improper placement can really mess you up
Kk
@glad oyster won't I lose my bonus tho?
ur sav is rare+
Yeah i have noticed that
So I finally hit a wall with progression on stage 7-40 and I was wondering if anyone could make a suggestion to improve my lineup. Currently most of my units are dead before they can get their ability off
So wait til i ascend him a bit?
use ira for now
Dont worry about faction bonus yet that much @dusty snow
Kk tnx
ira and sav have the same roll anyways
@dusty snowearly game you want raw power and combos over, arden is really good
Okau
role
@glad oyster what do you mean do you mean donโt use him to ascend other heroโs?
@austere cliff I found using lyca helps, yours is only epic but lyca/arden/nemora helped me a few stages
He means don't accidently feed that hero just to ascend another
@austere cliff first wall actually is 9-20 common u spend a week there or a month
How is this.
@weak panther dont use ascended heroes a food for your heroes, as they are mostly useful at one point
Alright got you
Ew what's 9-20
Man I'm nowhere to close to any of you I feel
Nah I personally would say no
not yet wait til you get another lucius from event
XD nah dude Iโm only on 6-36 lol
then ascend him to leg. if your tank is soft backline will die
Ok save so just sit on those for now?
@glad oyster Thanks, I just pulled lyca so I haven't tried her out, yet, thanks
you can make sav leg easily so just hold him for now til he can carry himself
best team? stuck at 4-36
Also guys whatโs your opinion of thane is he good?
@austere cliff yea lyca pairs well with saveas also. She boost haste and helps heroes gain energy
I need help witb my line up because I'm not sure what im honestly doing
I just leveled up my first 5 elites
@river lily work on getting and epic arden
@river lily skreg lucius, vurk sav ira or vedan
Should i spend some diamonds on pulls or wait til they drop common rate
I would say wait
@void prawn first off got to the Rickey cart and sacrifice all the green heoes
Kk
they wont fix the drop rate in the next patch so no need to save it
unless you are aiming for new hero
Done
@void prawn 2nd off focus one character at a time to 81, the guy you have at 72 should be at 61. And focus getting your carry and tank to 81 first
u can
Kevin who were you talking to? If me then ye Iโll go do that rn
IRA would prob be your carry
u sorry haha
Alr thanks Kevin
I dont even use ira anymore
I Guess I do have too many tanks
Who shoukd I switch her for
I didnt even mean to, it just happened
Try swapping angelo out
This about okay?
Is Angelo no good?
Fawkes is a pretty good cc character but it depends what you're facing
There better healer and cc, you have arden. Once you get arden to epic use him over angelo
i used angelo at the early games but after a new area its no good
@main trench no put ogi up front. Your tank need to be in front to tank. And nemora in the back. Hogan is a good tank to so use him early
@balmy scroll yea he has a few niches I never used him personally had nemora off the start @void prawn
i got nemora late and i pulled an elite angelo when i started so gg
Gooood morning all! ๐
Ouchy
Can I use some help ?
Whos arden?
the old dude wilder
@glad oyster Will try
@scarlet kraken maybe they getting shem to 81 first and dont gradually level your heroes together. Ots better to focus on Carrie's and tanks to 81 first
Stuck here do I just try leveling the saveas?
yeah or lucius
Alright to lvl 101 right? Or should I remove the experience used on fawkes and nemora onto saveas
@weak panther yea that's a tough lvl
Nemora front line against a brutus? Iโm a lower level but idk how u making that work lmao
Yea I think you have to much supporr @weak panther
Any advice for this stage ?
Alr but who should I remove
Are celestial heroes gard to get5
u can use estrilda
Sorry I cant type well with this phone yey
@craggy canyon theres a huge power gap but might just need to afk a bit
In replacement for? Fawkes? But problem is if I remove fawkes I have troubles with Brutus
Ok :x
@craggy canyon you try lyca at all?
just remove a support la
Any advice? Or do I just try lvlin and replace luscious for Brutus during the event
@craggy canyon put that tasi behind brutus
Should could help tasi ult quicker and sav get more hits
@weak panther lucious and brutus are a good frontline combo
not really sure about that poppy. lucius and brutus are good in a team
So who do I remove do I remove fawkes?
you need weak bait behind brutus so silvina attack brutus and not your team
i have both right now and even im underleveled, the enemies get rekt
That's what I used for awhile until my shemria got op enough to tank
@glad oyster i don't really like Lyca but i can try
@weak panther just try different things move heroes around. You get wins off some unexpecting formations sometimes
Alright
This is my line up right now but should I swap someone out for Belinda?
@weak panther your nemora should be top to charm Saveas and your Saveas should be highest lvl of others hes your main dps he should be 90 or 100
Help
@regal dust yeah use belinda instead khasos
@regal dust put lucius bottom and belinda behind him and nemora middle
@vague ridge ah alright I'll do that but gotta get myself some more mage gear since I got my only set on nemora
@vague ridge thanks for the help man
@regal dust put it on belinda nemora dont need that much she dont need weapon good too she just charm and heal
@pale kettle too much mages id try Saveas instead belinda
Ok
@pale kettle you could use nenora to kill the enemy nemora or silvina to assasiane the mages back line
saevas 81 is better then brutus 81
Push to 900000 asap
brutus has immortality
for 4 seconds
Sav is the carry
he should be the boss
then you can buff your Brutus
My fronts too squishy ye Iโll need to get my heroโs up in lvl as soon as possible and Iโll hold on getting my fawkes legendary
but the Sav needs to be as high skill as you can get him
^
Yea dont get over joye with brutus hed good but early game your levels are better else where
How to beat this shit ? https://puu.sh/DgXYN/04d5e6473c.png
the rest of my team is 61
i cleared all the way to 6-23 like that
Sav can carry you real far
You try tanking woth shem? @pale kettle
Now i am leveling brutus to 91 then the rest to 80 so i can get sav to 101
Im at 6-28 right now
@pale kettle put your weakest hero behind brutus or front of brutus. so silvina attack brutus
Shem doesnt tank right now ๐ฆ
@vague ridge yo thanks so much for the advice!! Couldnt beat that stage before but now I did
Gotcha
so make tasi weaker then Arden
and put tasi as sacrifice
@regal dust๐
now help me beat 21-40 xD
yeah if tasi is weaker its ok
Regreting making him...
@pale kettle silvina must attack tasi first ok
vedan is meh
she is, but brutus lack DPS
saevas is dps
I guess I need to L+ saveas to pass this stage
you should make tasi and Arden 100
and use dust to make higher saevas
if you got the xp
currently Hardstuck at 6-4 any Tips?
Using: Front: Lucius and Estrilda
Back: Shemira, Fawkes, Lyca
Is savas that good?
you prolly need xp now
@vague ridge How did you pass 16-24?โบ๏ธ
^the other heroes are good
@vague ridge
@pale rover wow that was long long ago in a galaxy far far away
I know they're severely underlevelled.๐ Asking for lineup tips.โบ๏ธ
@vague ridge I can only imagine.๐
@pale rover your team is good except it packs a dps hero so not possible
packs = lacks
you really need that belinda
Lyca does good dps, but. Maybe I do need 2 (aside from levelling).
I'll work on her and try her out, thank you.โบ๏ธ Really? What changed with Lyca?
lyca brutus tank
Arden nemora belinda back
belinda highest lvl possible
well its not enought dps
she did well because you have great tanks and cc
but later on shes like zero dps
Alright, I'll level my team in a few days and try that out! Thanks again.โบ๏ธ I've tried so many different combinations and I literally can't last 6 seconds. I replaced my Saveas with Lyca, who can you replace Lyca with aside from Belinda?
if you make belinda 200 and brutus 161 you should be able to beat it. with 180 brutus for sure
@pale rover ofc Shemria better then belinda but if you dont have her belinda is good i played her too in c16
Can i do something about this or afk? Each time i nearly kill the lion dude he just becomes immune, reeeeeeewwwwwww
Awesome, I don't mind resetting them to get past a stage.โบ๏ธ I have Shemira at L+, if that's good enough.
ur up against brutus X'D
@pale rover i would keep that wilders combo.. its best in game
ive got saveas shemire and grehzul as my starter elites on a new server
who do i useยจ
@vague ridge I also have Tasi and swap her in. My Wilders 4.โบ๏ธ
@pale rover i didnt know you have shemira lol.. so yeah use what i said but Shemria instead belinda ๐
@pale rover so Shem 200 brutus 161
gg
@vague ridge who should I focus my leveling on, and should I reset brutus to 81?
Ah, I forgot to include my hero screenshot.๐
ive got saveas shemire and grehzul as my starter elites on a new server
who do i useยจ
@pale rover yeah i swap tasi with Arden or lyca depend on formation.. mostly with Arden but sometimes brutus shem tank and tasi Arden nemora back for maximum cc
I love Shemira, but my husband insisted I mythic+ my Grezhul.๐ So yes. She's still L+.
saveas and shemira
You talking to me kev?
@glad oyster no its good but i dunno i think shemira shine aลฅ 160+ i think Saveas is better now but cant tell i had shemira aลฅ late game
Shes tanking well AMD carrying for me right now shes always last alive
anyone?
to saham haha
@vague ridge you are here! Thats why you arent responding in our guild discord server
๐
do i put everything into saveas shemire or greyzhul or do i split the resources?
@vague ridge Sure, thank you for the help.โบ๏ธ
#lineup-help has the strongest helpers muahahaha
#classic-questions has vlab
Hahahahaha
lunch
mhm thanks for the help i quess
And suggestions for here?
I should have asked you too, @left otter. For a change, since I'm always asked.๐
@pale rover asked me for? ๐
#lineup-help ๐ @left otter
ive got saveas shamira grehzul as my starter elites new server new player. do i split resources or put it all into one?
@uneven schooner wrong channel my dude
@pale kettle split then boost sav
@pale rover will you please please add me. I'm not a noob but I really need union help to clear chapter 6
...
Boost level
@balmy scroll no it would really help my line up lol
I went all out for carry saveas in my lineup but he's too weak without union
well i just saw u in all channels even offtopic lol
@left otter Ah, I love Shemira. I can make her ascended as soon as she turns red+, so yes. Thank you!โบ๏ธ
It's a pretty universal request :)
@uneven schooner Hello, my friendslist is full. And this chat is for lineup help, apologies.โบ๏ธ
@pale rover 161 her and you'll be killing stages with that lineup
@left otter Alright, I'll save my next dust round on her.โบ๏ธ I should have known better, I afk in my alt in labs when I use my red Shem.๐
iโm having a lot of trouble with this stage, is there anything else i could do to increase my chances of winning?
Still need like 29k dust to 240 a hero ๐ญ
@left otter I saw the exp points you saved up. It's mindblowing.๐ข
@left otter okay iโll try that
ye she good
@arctic jackal You may need to level a bit up to your opponent's level, and then use a crowd control character. Tasi or Nemora.โบ๏ธ
Any recommendations for who to use in guild boss fight?
Heyo, just started the game im sure theres some guide which i will look thru later but am i playing the right ujits atm?
@pale kettle Belinda AND Lucius are both good. Please don't eat either of them.โบ๏ธ
@wet pawn does root and stuff work?
also lucius is good to Shield his Ult cause it does a lot of damage
Not sure I'm not that experienced
@pale kettle lucius and fawkes is a must. Thane and belinda is next. ๐
Kind of need helping with my lineup because i cant beat 5-4 and its kind of annoying me lol
Wanted to save the ascrnd for weekly, idk how often u get them
make a lot of em rare+ lol
@weary linden auto ascend and try to build more heroes. Your lineup is good. Boost sav lvl more for dps. You can use hogan for now as a tank. So you get 3 formation bonus.
make that saveas elite if u can
Okay
@weary linden Lucius, Hogan, Fawkes, Vedan, Saveas.
he's a good one in the future
@solid pond nice lineup but dont lvl everyone. Just 5 heroes.
Yea so i read but i cant go for an aura if i use him
So i shouldnt use nemura? @pale rover
@weary linden You may lack dps.
@arctic jackal use serius instead of hogan for bonus
can any of my Top 5 be replaced or should I resonate some heroes? Maybe Belinda or Silvinia?
should i replace lucius with brutus for frontline, i have (front: shemira,back: lyca,nemora,tsai )
they pretty good together imo..
On what should i spend my diamonds
@pale rover thanks It helps out alot
at noble tavern...and diff channel
@weary linden Awesome! Glad it worked out for you.โบ๏ธ
Help pls
Who do I buy
shemira good
@sly orchid if youre looking for a good healer nemura is good
But if you want a good dps
@left otter tysm lmao you just gave me a new team i think
You should for the girlbon the horse
@arctic jackal its goood? ๐
Forgot her bame xd
@sly orchid That will depend on the other members of your team. Do you have any of those heroes already?โบ๏ธ
I don't ๐ญ
Struggling to progress in campaign, any suggestions?
@sly orchid Can I see your heroes?
dont D:
Screenshot (Apr 19, 2019 9:58:02 AM)
i'm at the tail end of chapter 8, but starting to struggle, is my lineup good?
@sly orchid You can buy Shemira. Then Lucius, Hogan front; Fawkes, Silvina, Shemira back.
should note, i use nemora instead of silvina
So ditch ferael
Feel like Iโm finally hard stuck
?
@covert robin Crowd control. Arden instead of Ira.
@scarlet compass Brutus, Lucius front; Saveas, Khasos, and Arden for a 3-1-1 team.
Ty Aero
so arden will be better than heals? i'll give it a shot!
@scarlet compass If they can't attack you, you won't need to heal.โบ๏ธ Khasos also gives you lifesteal.
@sly orchid Ferael is great late game but early game, you may want to utilize someone else. Keep him and make him stronger for late game, for sure if you plan to use Graveborn.
Which 3 Lightbearers should I use with brutus and saveas?
@spice mauve You may need to level, and afk a bit. I would use Grezhul instead of Thoran.
Anyone got a suggestion for a team? Currently stuck at 6-4 e.e
@earnest gyro Lucius, Fawkes, and temporarily, Estrilda at the back. I would normally say Belinda, but Brutus buffs phys attacks.
Brutus and saveas in front?
I did some pulls and now I don't know what my formation should be, can someone help?
@earnest gyro Brutus and Lucius are the tanks. Saveas behind Brutus.
And who would I replace estrilda with eventually?
best lineup? also, what faction should i pull for? got 2 wilder but no mauler
@pale rover ah ty Iโll try that! Grezhul felt really squishy to me so I abandoned him. Maybe he just needs more levels though
@earnest gyro Mauler or Lightbearer, in late game it can be Vurk, Belinda. Do some more pulls and see who you end up with.โบ๏ธ
@spice mauve Gredhul il very good hight level
@spice mauve He's pretty squishy early game, but Thoran.. he folds over and sacrifices your backline. So I dislike using him.โบ๏ธ
Thanks
Against magic team I love him
Iโll try and bring Grez up to speed then! Would it be worth resetting Thoran at cart this early?
any advice here? my tasi gets almost insta killed by the boss silvina
Which faction should i pull ๐
is that beatable or do i just have to AFK longer?
@pale rover
Yeah khasos is my next lab buy so I can get him stronger because he still does quite a bit of damage with that utility, good point on the night attacking part I will test it out, hopefully he can live through silvina
@subtle tree Lucius, Hogan front; Isabella, Shemira, Silvina at the back.
@late vessel try arden root
what chapter is that? i think its beatable
oh its beatable ye
@scarlet compass Put Arden in the middle, Saveas below him so when Silvina comes for Arden Saveas will target him as soon as possible.
Oreo I like what you choose, but its funny its almost only good heros in last game and you are in early. Try to have bonus faction :)
@sonic gull take horgan then horgan e+
@sonic gull choose someone from graveborn/lightbearer to be elite. i prefer silvina and ohgan being elite
Ok
@granite phoenix yeaa i like only focused on the endgame guys, who should i switch out?
@late vessel you miss damage at this level,can you show me all your heroes?
Hello! I just pulled Brutus. Who should I be resetting? Any line up recommendations?
replace vedan i guess @signal steppe
@balmy scroll thanks!
my arden also gets shredded by that silvina haha
I may just need more levels . Can't burn through front fast enough for saveas to turn to sivina
i got closer by making my nemora have less def than arden so silvina targets her instead, but everyone still ends up dying
Is there any real use for Estrilda?
wet toilet paper
@late vessel yes, I will think a little with the new event if its possible for you to have good early game
@granite phoenix thanks! any advice appreciated
@proud tangle just wanted to say thanks! Your advice helped me clear chapter 5
Should I stick with Brutus, Seveas, Hogan, Lucius, and Belinda for my team or can I swing something better with what I have?
What faction should i pull for with the 10 faction scrolls
@granite phoenix ok i did end up beating that stage by making my nemora have the lowest def, and then using tasi + arden
and switching brutus to top front so he took more damage
Is there a decent set up possible with these? Im getting owned on 6-12
@heady thistle good to know welcome to chapter 6 now where maulers will eat you up brutus tankiness plus oneshoting ability khasos and saveas dmg and how anoting golus and ankhira can be
Can someone give me a quick lineup for this
And should I keep lvling shemira first?
@late vessel with the new event you can upgrade tasi. Keep her she is very good
can you show what enemies are on 6-12 like a screen shot of the level @knotty knot
Iโve tried a few team combinations but I think I really just need to try making a DPS unit my carry. Any advice?
I've tried a full light team (with athalia) and still get shredded
@sturdy moth need more sustain, a nemora or some sort
Iโve tried with all 5 light elites that I have, Iโve tried 3 light + nemora + shemira
I have nemora
how should i beat this?
@sturdy moth play belinda, and be patient and level up your heroes to 81
if i remenber on 6 12 you have golus and saveas on top i dont use many of your heroes so i dont know how strong they are but try this oni
@celest elm need higher level tank and play nemora
Alright, thanks @proud tangle
nemora instead of estrilda?
@main summit do you think I could use her as my โcarryโ for a while? Reset a few heroes and get her to 81 instead of Lucius?
@celest elm take estrilda, maybe play nemora instead of shemira silvina
athalia
estrilda or skreg
belinda or lucius
lucius or skreg or estrilda
belinda or ankhira or niru
@knotty knot
but i ve never used most of those heroes personally so i cant say how good they are
@sturdy moth lucius is important to be 81, play belinda as dps
who should be in front?
@celest elm lucius, estrilda unless you are able to pull a better tank then estrilda middle position. I use to have my estrilda front too until i pulled a serius
Got ya, I'll do some experimenting and see if I can pass. Thnx
Okay I just donโt want to waste all my diamonds on resets. I may reset Hogan and then just pump Belinda to 81.
@sturdy moth make sure frontline is tanky enough
What formation should I use? I can also get vedan to elite+
Sucks that you canโt reset all the time because it costs diamonds. Iโd like to be able to at least mess around with some setups before committing to spending.
yeah i have skreg but havent used him at all because he seems really good late game with lots of levels but not so good early and dont have athalia or belinda yet but know how good athalia is and my estrilda is also lvl 1 with skreg so yeah ankhira never used her aswell she is anoying to face but doest seem that good to have on team
I have a ton of diamonds but I think Iโm holding off til they fix summoning rates.
Passed! Thnx epic
personnaly i have used the reset mechanic lots of times to test stuff around it inst that many diamonds and on my opinion is a big part of the fun of the game testing new stuff to try and push further
cool oni
Would Shemira as a solo carry not be sufficient? Iโve read that she can pretty much drag any team through like Chapter 10 or so
@sturdy moth i would suggest pulling now, dont know when they will adjust the rates and itโs not on the next patch
Used: athalia
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Niru
@main summit well I have 10 faction specific summons. Based on what I have, do you suggest a specific faction?
LB seems okay with what you have as a majority
No, I lied, niru was back mid then Belinda was bottom
Is that he best strategy generally? Build up toward one faction?
Can someone help me with my formation? :)
having 2 factions strong is generally best until late on bcs late on you need to have lots of good heros and keep swithing stuff to counter their stuff to pass trough
Where should I put Lucius where Shem and where brutus?
lucius/brutus front
me and you vladimir on the same spot always lol also struggling with that one
You usually put brutus against brutus
And put saveas behind your brutus
Try Fawkes mid
Is it better to have estrilda or Belinda?
Or wherever he puts brutus under
Stuck on 6-36 for 2 days now, any help?
Okay changed my name hey Gam4r it's me vlad
@remote spindle belinda for dps, estrilda for survival
So in this situation where Iโm p overpowers estrilda?
This your ingame name 
Is there anything I can do about this? I feel like I've tried every combo and Belinda just wrecks me
@remote spindle I didn't understand the question
can anyone help me with this? is the build okay should i change it?
@pastel whale well 1st,you need levels. And 2nd, you need a dps
@light elm so if I want to pass this level, Bc Iโm p overpowered, I want to go with Estrilda?
maybe switch khasos and shemira's positions..
im trying some different stuff vlad removing fawkes and replacing it with other stuff he doesnt seem that usefull to me this one puts khasos on coffin he gets out of coffin and get oneshot by him for me but mine are still lower lvl ill say if i get something close to win or even win vlad
@pale kettle tasi instead of ferael anyday
https://gyazo.com/198c673625e15d08ef141e62c0caadd1 My current Lineup. Thinking about late game comb atm with the easter egg event coming around wanted to do smth like: Shemira, Grezhul, Ferael, Athalia, Lucius but I'm not sure in which that'd be a viable late game combo. Any suggestions?
Any downside to auto ascending?
it's rando i think
What would you recommend for a dps
@light elm okay thx but why?
@pale kettle because she her cc is superior
@balmy scroll pretty sure it just combines exact copies of Rare into Rare+ and Elite into Elite+
i mean itll be a random hero
Tasi is one of the top 3 heroes yet
@sturdy moth if you don't want to ascend everyone maybe it's bad then
@light elm thx i get the feeling she gets destroyed like suger in the rain
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
@sturdy moth yea only same hero. Never faction ascension
@pastel whale belinda from what I can see of your roster. Shemira is very good at thya level too
Isabella is decent
But why wouldnโt I always combine exact copies? It doesnโt cost any resources right? And frees up space
There's a weekly quest
Ascend 2 heroes
Maybe if you run low on diamonds to pull and want to save for next week lol
Can't think of anything else
Thatโs fair I guess haha. Though there are other ways to finish weeklies.
Oh oh got a reason. Maybe you're running low on blues for bounties
K got some ne stuff, anything i should change?
Yeah thatโs true too.
I mean here's my roster, I guess just wait for lvls?
For now I think Iโm just gonna auto ascend and focus on leveling some specific heroes.
I don't have the best of gear
@pastel whale belinda for any wilder and wait
Thanks ๐
๐ค idk what kinda lineup to make
@devout basin thoran in front put shem/Vedan back. And most important, get levels
ok, ty @light elm
@robust cave lucius estrilda belinda arden and for 5th hero, how far are you from 45 labyrinth coins? You can buy nemora
Gotcha
Who to legend: Estrilda/Raine?
Whoever you can get to legend+
Should I stick with Brutus, Seveas, Hogan, Lucius, and Belinda as my team, or can I swing something else with what I have?
Why did you promote Hogan so high?
@balmy scroll They're both late game heroes. Just get who you can as far as you can.
@pale rover ok then haha
@weary kite I think cc is much more useful than raw dps
Would it be worth resetting Thoran and levelling Grezhul instead? Or is this too early for him? (6-20)
Tasi arden nemora take your pick(s)
@pale rover should I wait for another wilder fodder or eat arden
@haughty token I rolled a lot of hogans early on
You got a pretty nice account
Gotcha @weary kite
@haughty token too much power difference I think
@glad oyster I love Arden so I wouldn't eat him, personally.
hey can i bother someone for help on lineup?
I've only finally had Arden be a deciding factor lol
@glad oyster you mean ascend arden ๐
@haughty token Big power gaps are mostly doable at higher levels, but early on you'll have to match the opponents' levels or more.
Thanks I think I'll hold, I'd rather be able to L+ Arden right away
And my experience is that raw power is better lol.
Early game raw power is absolutely better
@pale rover ah, thanks! Been doing like 40k power gaps, guess this is too much
Ah ok @light elm
Not much cc to be had early
@spice mauve I use Grez on my baby account and he worked just fine. I got stuck at 7-40 though!
Unfortunately the afk tier guide doesn't specifically say that lol
Once you start running into higher team powers is when you need cc
Gotcha
So I heard that people on Reddit like Thoran, but people here seem to hate him, what gives?
He's not bad
I don't hate him, he just folds over and lets your backline die. But he's terrifying against magic teams. They melt like butter.
^
Ah gotcha
I had to make sure my Arden didn't ulti so he wouldn't die to the Thoran attacking me.๐
Once I get my 5th guy to 100 I'm going to be gradually swapping them out for elite+ so I can start getting everyone to 101
I used Thoran early game and he was a hot mess
Ow lol
Yeeted him quickly lmao
Not going to lie, I auto 2x most my battles, well, all lol
Almost all heroes are viable. It's just how you put them together, and the stages they excel in.
Manual skilling makes a huge difference, though.
For example, I only pop all my phys attack ultis after Brutus roars.
I guess Iโm about to summon 10, 4 times to burn through my diamond
Hoping I donโt regret it when they update summon rates
I did 5 summons this morning and got all green heroes ๐ญ
Don't worry, I just summoned everything I had.๐
Lol. I am still too noob to know ACTUAL strategy
So you're not alone. by then we'll have new diamonds to spend.๐๐ป
So I've been stuck here for awhile and I keep getting wiped. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
@reef flower hope you used scrolls and not diamonds
Golus or Warek?
I currently treat the game like a puzzle and swap formations and characters until I win
@light elm of course
What's wrong with using diamonds?
Oh yes I see
Is seirus any good
at what point can Estrilda tank front line?
imo warek
He's decent from what i hear @main summit
He is the second to go after Lucius. Not very long.
@main summit He's good.
never got to try seirus
40 pulls, 2 elites lmao. Elite Lucius and Elite Warek
@gloomy terrace she doesn't tank very well. Her forte is more buffing
Feelsbadman @sturdy moth
I dislike Warek and Golus. But they're different; Golus is a tank, Warek is some sort of rage punching beast.๐
That's better than usual tthough
accurate description lol
@slate pivot do you have usable graveborns
Yea but I need one of them for faction bonus lol die to my luck with pulls
I feel like people are misusing this thread suddenly lol
A lot of high levels in arena have Warek on full mauler teams, though. So shrug.
Faction pull for Lb or wilders better
i personally prefer warek XD
Welp guess that answers that
@slate pivot scratch that. Try estrilda and hogan instead of vedan and ogi
Red circle is my current team I debating on if I should replace someone.. suggestions?
Thanks @balmy scroll @pale rover
Maybe I should just try to get some of my Rare+ into Elites?
๐๐ฝ
@light elm I have Silvina and Nitu that I could put on the leveling crystal if needed.
Whatโs the highest lvl elite/elite+ can go to
120
@ivory geode There are no bonuses, but good heroes.
yeah I wasn't aiming for bonuses because I couldn't get them
without having to use a bad hero ect
Still having a bitty of probs with this lineup. Vedanta feels week or when he bat forms. My guys die to fast. Anyway j can fix this?? Who should I replace vedanta with??
@light elm Alright thank you. I'll try that. I just replaced Estrilda for Tasi and I had her ascended as well.
vedan aint really good...
@slate pivot nah vedan doesn't do much anyway he's way underleveled. Your best bet is to put cc or buffing units to power up shemira. So arden lyca estrilda and such. Also replace ogi with a better tank if you can. Maybe hogan
@slate pivot oh no tasi is essential
Sorry to brother but what heroes should i start lieveling and using
@ivory geode I think you'll do just fine. Either way, you have two great tanks (one with a heal), an aoe, one person heavy hitter to focus, and a crowd controller.
What should i use? Im kinda stuck
So under level Vedan and over level shimera?
@obtuse warren top 4 and fawkes
so three at lv 61 and 1 week one?
@light elm Yeah I figured out about Tasi quickly Haha. I will definitely try that though. Maybe itll get me somewhere.
@obtuse warren maybe estrilda for hogan
@clear void a few good supoorts like arden will help too
Maybe
@clear void savs is also a ton of dmg wjen over lvd
@clear void Don't put Vedan in front if you can help it, when he bat forms he'll leave your backline open. You can overlevel Shem for dps, and use Hogan in front place temporarily.
ok thnx ill do that
But you also need some higher ascentions
@clear void there's no point in an underleveled vedan. Scrap him entirely
He provides nothing
i think hogan is even better than vedan lol
Well wht i have been doing is. Lucius, Vedan front line, With Silvinia, Shemira and savs back line
My problem here in lies, i can take 1 more unit to lv 61, if i scrap vedan.
Shemira
but that leaves me with an under leveled hogan and vedan
^ and scrap Vedan for Hogan first.
How underleved
well 11 levels would go to shemira.
At least he's an actual tank, so he will last longer.
Should I merge these all into an Elite+ Saveas?
Ye
sure
You can use golus if you like him though but he isn't something fantastic
Could someone explain pls why Hogan is worth building?
tank
@pale rover Kay, so i scraped Vedan. Would you say level Shemira to 61? Or keep her 50 and take Hogan to 52?
Just opened Shemira, but not sure how to fit her into a lineup. Any advice?
@clear void Overlevel Shemira. Either way you'll have to wait until Hogan is at a viable level as well.
@native willow I'd change nemora or Fawkes, probably nemora
@native willow Lucius, Hogan front; Fawkes, Vedan/Isabella, Shemira back.
Fawkes and Arden are both crowd controllers, so you will need more dps.
Any tips for my lineup? Who should i over level?
Okay, thanks!
Belinda and lucius
help appreciated!! ๐
@arctic cradle Your team is good as is, but take note that Lyca is better late game than early. I'd use Raine in her place to enable Belinda to attack faster.
Ok ty!
@scarlet plank Lucius, Hogan front; Arden, Mirael, Raine back.
So Raine is pretty good?
so elites are not always better?
Raine is basically an enabler. She makes sure people who hit hard, hit more often via ultis. Silvina, Shemira, Belinda, etcetera.
@scarlet plank Elites are always better, so it would help to get the ones I mentioned up as soon as you can.
@burnt sandal You will need to level up. Lucius, Grezhul front; Belinda, Raine, Vedan/Isabella back.
Hello, I'm new here, can I ask some line up tips?
Need help with line up, can reset some hero if need it, also pulled Ferael is he good?
Grezhul and Thoran are graveborn tanks.
๐
Niru has been working as my second tank, as a magic one lately so I was curious
Thoran is pretty good
Line up tips anyone?
which one should i level first hogan fawkes vedan or other ? current line up is lucius shemira fawkes hogan and saveas i have fawkes on crystal but im using him and not vedan now since he isnt leveld enought to be super useful and its nice to have the lightbearer faction bonus