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acoustic coyote
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tyty

foggy bluff
eternal apex
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@mint turtle Your Isabella adds nothing to that team right now. Ideally you want another tank up top as well, not Shemira. Personally, I'd switch up to the team below. You also need more levels on your Lucius

Athalia
Grezhul
Belinda
Lucius
Shemira

foggy bluff
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@acoustic coyote so is Hogan that good? Mmm I dont like him... but I an try...

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can*

acoustic coyote
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he is tankier than Estrilda, was important for tanking Brutus till Lucius used shield

eternal apex
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@foggy bluff You're on a level that needs lightbearers in 6-28, which you don't really have....

mint turtle
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@eternal apex aye aye, gonna save or reset for that :D. Thanks

acoustic coyote
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also all my heroes were lvl 81

foggy bluff
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@eternal apex In about 2 hours I will get Epic+ Belinda

eternal apex
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@foggy bluff You could try something like this, but it would need you ideally to level and gear both Hogan and Lucius, because they need to tank HARD

Raine
Lucius
Shemira
Hogan
Tasi

pale kettle
eternal apex
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ah in that case, if you can gear them @foggy bluff Just swap out tasi of the above team, and put in Belinda

foggy bluff
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@eternal apex Ok, thanks mate, I will try that ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rich ice
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Currently stucked on 6 20something with 3 legs enemies and i feel like its impossible to defeat them what do you suggest

mint turtle
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@eternal apex thanks again, mate. after i switched Isabelle to Belinda, i passed that stage.

foggy bluff
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Does anyone has The Lightbringers on Legendary+ for the buff?

pale kettle
eternal apex
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@mint turtle Awesome! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

heady thistle
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Iโ€™m not sure this belongs here but Iโ€™m thinking of resetting raine and pouring the resources into Shemira. Thoughts?

eternal apex
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@whole garnet @pale kettle @heady thistle You guys are my next in line, just be patient for a minute please!

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@whole garnet Ferael is great late game, but not so much early on. You might want to try a team like this.

Shemira
Lucius
Arden
Hogan
Kaz

whole garnet
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No problem! You're giving out replies like this is a drive thru and I love it.

OKay, thank you!

proud tangle
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on my opinion i would say dont level the shemira but forget raine and lyca and get golus and saveas leveled up instead of them being on your crystal with them you will get a faction bonus and golus and saveas are really good especially saveas lyca is good but she isnt giving you a faction bonus same thing for raine

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@heady thistle

eternal apex
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@pale kettle Try subbing out Saveas for Belinda, and switching Lucius and Brutus around. You may have to wait until you can gear your lowest heroes to 81, that node is really tough when you're under levelled

pale kettle
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Sure will do that

heady thistle
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@proud tangle what do you mean by faction bonus and where can I see the bonuses?

sour hound
eternal apex
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@heady thistle When you get Belinda in the next couple of days, you should try this team. It might need you to ascend Estrilda because she's not hugely tanky.

Raine
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Shemira

sour hound
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Who should replace hogan?

pseudo sinew
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Brutus.

proud tangle
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im on the same boat as vladimir zoeebot but mine are kinda worse heroes and levels but i have more power ..

pseudo sinew
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I'd also swap out Angelo for something better. @sour hound

eternal apex
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@sour hound Your biggest problem is running both Nemora and Angelo in the same team. Sub out Angelo for Mirael, then put Mirael at the back and Nemora on the bottom

proud tangle
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@heady thistle top left you see the like 5 crystal logo click on it to understand what faction bonus is

eternal apex
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@proud tangle Unfortunately, your levels just aren't close to high enough. You need to get the whole squad over 81 ideally, and if not the whole team, Fawkes is the only one you can afford to be under that

proud tangle
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i dont really think i can do any thing besides just afking for moer exp and get saves 81 ..

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yeah

acoustic coyote
sour hound
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@eternal apex Done, but what about hogan?

pale kettle
eternal apex
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@acoustic coyote I would say your best lineup right now is a full lightbearer one

Raine
Lucius
Mirael(belinda when you get her)
Estrilda
Thane/Athalia (both work almost the same tbh)

pale kettle
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I feel bad for you epic :(

eternal apex
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@pale kettle Awesome mate!

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@sour hound I would keep him. Brutus is a better character, but you don't have any synergies with him, and Hogan is tankier which is hugely helpful when paired with Lucius

proud tangle
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i got valdimir on 6-24 he was stuck on 6-20 before he and i have a very similar line up he was struggling with it alot for these one i dont see a cheese method because on 6-20 they didnt had that much burst so you can afford to have shemira tank for lucius and just have them 2 tank with saveas as extra dmg behind them both for this one ankhira is quite the anoying brat sucking my lucius energy so he cant ult more than once and shemira will die frontline without lucius ults so she either goes backline and lucius dies no after 1 ult and she stays for a little or shemira and lucius die same time close to getting lucius second ult but ankmira starts sucking eberhy and it just stays on 99% of ult and lucius dies

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thats an essay

kind orchid
acoustic coyote
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Thanks man, so Raine huh, i swapped her for Angelo cuz I felt I needed some sustain at least.

proud tangle
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dont worry vladimir im probably still behind you on days only day 4 when i get more exp i can beat it or maximum day 7 belinda will do belinda

eternal apex
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@kind orchid Can you screenshot the enemy layout?

@acoustic coyote When you level up a bit, Lucius is a healer as well. Raine has incredible synergy with Mirael or Belinda.

proud tangle
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@kind orchid get your heroes to the treshhold 61 abilities will level and will probably unstuck you

kind orchid
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Is my line up OK?

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Is there any particular hero I need to pull?

late gyro
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u should get lucius to 61 for sure

static marsh
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in which ratio should I upgrade my heroes?

late gyro
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he becomes a lot more tanky then

west hull
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Canโ€™t post picture would someone be willing to pm me for some advice?

pale kettle
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Zoee help me :P when you're done with everyone else on the line haha I'm stuck again

proud tangle
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im still kinda new to the game (4days but stuck on 6-24) but i would say swithc lucius and brutus and if lucius is still dying try to make shemira front line and lucius on middle with nemora on bottom left but again the lvl 61 treshhold is really strong @kind orchid get shemira and lucius there and you probably beat it

late bison
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So currently I have my Frontline as Lucius Brutus, should I switch Brutus out for Saveas?

errant sky
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I just got two epic lyca so was able to get her to legend+. Been using a lineup of Brutus, Lucius, Saveas , Nemours, and Athalia and hit a wall. At 6-36. Any ideas to move or in or others to concentrate on?

pale kettle
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@late bisondefinetely not

eternal apex
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@kind orchid You're actually doing alright. Early game, a combination of Lucius, Estrilda and Shemira can carry you through most. I would change up your team a lot honestly. Try this, lemme know how it goes. Doubling up the tanks on the bottom side should help your sustain, while Shemira can just slowly aoe them to death as Lucius keeps you shielded

Fawkes
Lucius
Shemira
Estrilda
Brutus

late bison
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Can Saveas go in back or is he not worth it at that point

eternal apex
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@static marsh Carry > Tank > DPS > Support

proud tangle
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saveas isnt tanky at all he kinda heals but the dmg he does to himself plus the enemy dmg with him as a front line is too much he isnt a tank he is a dps

pseudo sinew
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@errant sky I cleared that one using Brutus, Lucius, Athalia, Belinda and Numisu. If your Lucius gets ult off, you should be able to clear it.

eternal apex
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@pale kettle On that level, use the same strat... You just need levels ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

foggy scaffold
pale kettle
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Okay @eternal apex

static marsh
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bro shem is such a beast

foggy scaffold
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Basically my whole team gets whipped then Shem gets mobbed when I run Shem, nemora, tsai, Lucius and Hogan

eternal apex
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@errant sky You got a screenshot of your level mate?

late bison
foggy bluff
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@eternal apex What is in your opinion the best Graveborn comp?

eternal apex
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@late bison Try this team long term

Khasos
Brutus
Saveas
Lucius
Fawkes

static marsh
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i love silvina

eternal apex
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@foggy scaffold Can you chuck in a screenshot of the level please?

foggy scaffold
errant sky
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Thus is what I tried last

sick arrow
eternal apex
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@foggy bluff Honestly, Graveborn are best use in a hybrid in my opinion. Shemira works fantastically with any team that has Lucius, Nemora, or Khasos. For pure Graveborn though, pre level 160 I'd say Grez and Vedan front, with Shem Ferael and Isabella rear. Post 160, just the full ascended team

cosmic yew
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Any recommendations?

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I'm stuck as hell

eternal apex
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@errant sky You're a little short on Lightbearers which makes that level tough. I'd try something like this, and then just try switching in Saveas for different spots in the backline, or switching Lucius around. You might need to try a few times for rng to be in your favour

Athalia
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Nemora

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@foggy scaffold @sick arrow @cosmic yew This is my current queue guys, just try and be patient and I'll get to you ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

late bison
eternal apex
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@late bison Switch Saveas and Lucius

still radish
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Can someone help

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What should I change

eternal apex
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@foggy scaffold You just need levels on Hogan unfortunately. He needs to be 81 to tank Brutus long enough, so does Lucius. Other than that, switch Shem with Nemora, that's a decent lineup though (if a bit short on damage...) If you have Belinda, you could try switching her up with Tasi too

foggy scaffold
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Kk thx I figured the front line drops so fast

eternal apex
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@sick arrow In general, you could try something like this. Vurk is pretty weak in my opinion, this team has no faction bonus, but has huge synergy with sustain and long term damage. It should get you through most of the early chapters

Nemora
Lucius
Shemira
Vedan
Saveas

mystic wedge
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Hi ! I'm new here. Can I ask for help too?

eternal apex
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@cosmic yew You need another tank front line. Ideally you want Lucius on the top side in that matchup, so he can avoid Brutus until he gets his shield up. Ferael is also not adding much there. Your best bet would be subbing in Belinda and Hogan if you have them. The option in brackets could work too, but would require looots of gear and levels on Lucius

Tasi
Lucius (Estrilda)
Belinda
Hogan (Lucius)
Saveas

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@mystic wedge Shoot! Here to help ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

mystic wedge
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@eternal apex Thanks!

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I'm stuck here, my team is not very good tho...

molten moat
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Need a hand?

cosmic yew
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@eternal apex Thanks a lot ๐Ÿ‘Œ

eternal apex
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@still radish Try putting Shemira middle, Arden top, and Thane bottom in the backline. Unfortunately, right now you also need levels (every at 61+) to really be able to tank the damage from Brutus and Saveas

still radish
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Ok thanks

molten moat
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@mystic wedge What seems to be the problem? What happens here?

eternal apex
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@mystic wedge Try subbing out Seirus for Saveas (Seirus is a tank, not a DPS), and then put Saveas at the bottom and Nemora at the top

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Otherwise, your lineup is pretty strong, that centre core 3 is really good

mystic wedge
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@eternal apex Ok, thanks !

molten moat
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I am getting the feeling the lightbearers die fast

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They do have factional advantage over LB

mystic wedge
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@molten moat Don't know, Lucius dies really fast

molten moat
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Yup. It's that thing then.

mystic wedge
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@molten moat Yep, same feeling here

low wren
molten moat
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Try using wilders if you can, but yeah try using saveas to truck the enemies out.

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If it doesn't work, try using ulmus.

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Ulmus and Seirus in front

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or something

mystic wedge
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@molten moat Ulmus is good ? Just summoned him

molten moat
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It could be good for this scenario.

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He is one of those underrated heroes.

eternal apex
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@mystic wedge Oh of course I forgot about graveborn bonus. Try a Wilders lineup, something like this. The extra tank at the back (Lucius) should help him survive long enough to shield, and then take over front line when Ulmus goes ranged mode

Nemora
Seirus
Lucius
Ulmus
Saveas

molten moat
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Yeah this.

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Try this out.

eternal apex
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Unfortunately, you may need to get your crystal heroes to 101 to make it work...

molten moat
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Nemora tanking silvina is also good.

orchid agate
granite whale
low wren
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im at 101 right now

molten moat
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@low wren Let me see.

eternal apex
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@low wren You need levels, because your wilders are taking extra damage from the maulers

molten moat
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@low wren you don't have enough damage for your line up

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two tanks

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and 3 supports

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Try swapping one wilder out

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and use Kaz.

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Or... uh.

unique musk
molten moat
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take one ligtbearer out

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and use Saveas/Shemira

eternal apex
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@orchid agate Yeah that team just won't work long term. You need to sub in Seirus for Isabella, then move Nemora to the back. Try this lineup

Tasi
Seirus
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira

molten moat
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@granite whale Hold on let me see this

granite whale
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ok

orchid agate
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@eternal apex yeah the problem is that I can't get my seirus and lucius to 100+ because theyre just epics

mystic wedge
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@eternal apex @molten moat Ok, thank you for your help !

molten moat
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@granite whale huhyour line up is good. what seems to be the problem?

granite whale
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my lucius gets like killed in 4 hits by the horse guy

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cant even get shield off lol

molten moat
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Who does your silv target?

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Arkadios?

granite whale
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brutus

molten moat
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What

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Really?

granite whale
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wait lemme do it again to see

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oh she targets the spider person cause hawkes pulls brutus away

eternal apex
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@unique musk You need better tanks to take the damage from Brutus and Saveas. Ideally, you want something like this lineup below. You need two tanks on the bottom line to hold Brutus until Shemira/Belinda can kill them all. You should have a Belinda soon (unless you ascended Angelo with her, in which case, baaaaad move, Angelo is useless), so you just need a Hogan or you could try with Khasos there...

Shemira
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Estrilda

molten moat
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wtf r u saying SPider girl has less def than arkadios? tf

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Hahaha Ok...

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You can't bait the horse guy.

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Try swapping lucius and thoran

eternal apex
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@orchid agate If you leave them in the crystal, they'll go to 101 when your Vedan does.

molten moat
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positions

granite whale
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ok

orchid agate
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Oh I see

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I have ulmus too is he a Better tank than seirus? @eternal apex

unique musk
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That's exactly what I did with Belinda :( @eternal apex

eternal apex
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@orchid agate Ulmus is a weird character... He starts a tank, but then turns ranged. So you need a melee character behind him to take the heat when he ults

@unique musk Wellll there's your problem ๐Ÿ˜› Angelo is kinda useless, unfortunately

molten moat
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You should not use Auto when usiong ulmus

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when he needs to tank, he shouldn't do his ult

mystic wedge
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Yaaay, I'm not blocked anymore!

eternal apex
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@molten moat I just run an extra melee with him, he works in a hybrid squad with that

unique musk
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@eternal apex I guess I'll do what I can with the heroes I have, thanks!

molten moat
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I wish i got ulmus on my wilder alt, sadly...

orchid agate
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Hmmm not sure if I should use him then

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I've been autoing a lot

eternal apex
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Yeah he's really a niche character that shouldn't be in your main lineup

orchid agate
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Not sure if Ira is good either, thinking of sacrificing her next when I legend my arden

eternal apex
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Ira is pretty useless past early game, definitely use her as ascension materials for arden

molten moat
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what

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Ira is probably the most damaging hero out there...

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If I were you, I'd use that Ira in E+.

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I have proof screenies

eternal apex
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She's got by far the least utility of the wilders, and she can't go past 160

molten moat
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that Ira E+ > Leg Kaz.

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I'm surprised too... IDK she's the one carrying in this chapters.

orchid agate
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I'm planning to put seirus in too

eternal apex
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Don't use wilders there, Brutus will kill them all I guarantee it

eternal apex
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@molten moat I remember that level lol I beat it by putting Athalia opposite Ira so she got pushed into melee range ๐Ÿ˜›

nimble gust
eternal apex
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Okie doke, are you good to handle things for a while here @molten moat ? I need food lol

orchid agate
molten moat
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I need to go too. oh no.

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@nimble gust Post stage pic

eternal apex
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oh damn. Okay I'll take @nimble gust and @orchid agate quickly, but anybody else is outta luck lol

nimble gust
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I'm thinking of a Mauler team, but unsure

eternal apex
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@nimble gust I don't know the stage, but I can already tell you that your best bet is going to be Lucius Hogan frontline, Saveas Estrilda Athalia backline

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You need levels man, both your tanks need to be at least 75 ideally

cerulean ravine
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Yop

nimble gust
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I tried that one, I'll try it again. I was using khas for the bonus lifesteal

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And I'll work on the levels. Thanks. :)

eternal apex
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@orchid agate Stand Lucius vs Golus, Seirus top. Backline: Tasi top, Lyca/Ira mid, Arden bottom

flat ridge
orchid agate
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Okay I'll try that

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Silvina keeps assassinating my backline though

eternal apex
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Yeah, she's insane unfortunately. You need to hope Lucius gets his shield up in time

rich parcel
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Try using your ult before hers get full

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Because she does more damage the more energy you have

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Atleasy with her ult

eternal apex
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@flat ridge I personally would use Lucius Hogan front, Estrilda behind Hogan, Belinda mid, Saveas behind Lucius

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Okay guys I gotta run now. Good luck

scarlet kraken
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@nimble gust Iโ€™m getting slapped by that Kas too

orchid agate
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Okay thanks

pale kettle
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hey, im stuck at 6-24:( can anyone help me i dont know what iam doing wrong, i dont want to use wilders because they die in a second and dont get there ult in time

calm kelp
orchid agate
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@calm kelp you should be able to beat that easily with that power and levels o.o

calm kelp
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i can't even kill 1 enemy lol

orchid agate
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Dafuq

dire gull
proud tangle
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maybe try to switch saveas with arden and hoper that he roots who you need to root in general just get more levels lvl 81 lucius is a rly big powerspike

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i would say level heroes based on abilities like get lucius on 81 forget others and then move on to the next hero istead of trying to get them all slowly up

lime mesa
dire gull
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Oka, i'll focus one

molten moat
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@lime mesa remove vedan and angelo

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and use belinda and lucius

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Damn.

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Full 5-man formation buff

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

lime mesa
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Awesome thanks! @serene urchin

uneven schooner
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BEGGING for someone with legendary dragon slayer union to add as a friend. Im not a noob, and will be active for a very long time

molten moat
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@lime mesa LOL you pinged the wrong person

lime mesa
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Whoops xD omg lol

molten moat
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LOL

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Changed my nick, then

wet geyser
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6 36

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Grlp

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Help

molten moat
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Swap Estrilda and Lucius positions

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and see what happens

weak panther
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Can anyone help me with my lineup?

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Idk what should I swap up for especially with the new Easter event coming Iโ€™m planning on getting Brutus but idk where to put him/ swap who for him

pale kettle
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Any advice please

weak panther
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Idk srsly how I got past was luck I think and a lot of leveling

balmy scroll
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lvl up more

wet geyser
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@molten moat nah not gonna work this nasus guy shits on any of my front line crits like 16-17k

weak panther
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Kevin can help me? Rn my squads TOP row pictures up abit but Iโ€™ll be trying to get Brutus during the event but dk who to replace who for

pale kettle
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@balmy scroll me?

balmy scroll
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^aye

pale kettle
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Ok who should I level?

balmy scroll
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maybe all to be on par

glad oyster
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My back row get wiped really fast

balmy scroll
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@weak panther i'm not really that good with most info of this game but imo i would remove seirus

weak panther
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I usually put nemora in front to get her ultimate as soon as possible to let your team get out of the initial burst but if sheโ€™s getting bursted as well or gets ult late then he just lvl up your squad and thanks Kevin

royal timber
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instead of getting new hero upgrade your current hero thats much better

weak panther
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Also nemora is basically I would say an off tank not a tank but can soak ip damage very well

edgy granite
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I am stuck at the same spit. that Brutus is a monster

glad oyster
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Try getting saveas to 101 first and run nemora/arden and lyca, with saveas back to

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@weak panther

balmy scroll
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maybe also try diff heroes/change palcement

weak panther
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Kanon if thatโ€™s for me thanks for the idea also is there a hero which can go back line? Itโ€™s one of my problems rn where I just canโ€™t take out my back lane

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But who to swap

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For saveas

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So do I put saveas Arden and Lyca back lane and remove luscious for Brutus and remove fawkes?

glossy juniper
glad oyster
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Fawkes/lyca/nemora is to much support in the back you need a carry like sav @weak panther

glossy juniper
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Does addition of brutus and khasos change what i should go for? Should i do 5 mauler team?

royal timber
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normally i will say lucius and seirus but they are still elite

weak panther
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Alr but I can legend my fawkes very soon or should I hold on that

balmy scroll
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maybe not do a full on mauler

glad oyster
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@glossy juniper dont stress faction bonus it's to early in game

royal timber
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prioritize dps or tank. dont ascend support first

glossy juniper
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Whos 5 strongest that i have then?

glad oyster
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@weak panther as long as you dont have to feed him ascend hero

dusty snow
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Poppy I'm curious as to how you beat the one before that lol

weak panther
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Meaning? I still donโ€™t u derstand what you mean Ik

edgy granite
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@glossy juniper i ran Sav, Nimisu Khasos brutus and athalia around where you are...and just pumped everything into sav until he hit 100 and left the rest at 61. took me to 6-8 now i am raidsing brutus up and the rest to 80

dusty snow
royal timber
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@glossy juniper lucius brutus nemora arden numisu

glossy juniper
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Ok awesome tnx @edgy granite

glad oyster
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@dusty snow use Arden

royal timber
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put ira instead of numisu

glossy juniper
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No savas? He does lot of dps lol

edgy granite
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Sav will carry you for a while with just pure damage output, but formation will be key. improper placement can really mess you up

glossy juniper
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Kk

dusty snow
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@glad oyster won't I lose my bonus tho?

royal timber
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ur sav is rare+

glossy juniper
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Yeah i have noticed that

austere cliff
glossy juniper
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So wait til i ascend him a bit?

royal timber
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use ira for now

glad oyster
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Dont worry about faction bonus yet that much @dusty snow

glossy juniper
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Kk tnx

royal timber
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ira and sav have the same roll anyways

glad oyster
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@dusty snowearly game you want raw power and combos over, arden is really good

dusty snow
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Okau

royal timber
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role

weak panther
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@glad oyster what do you mean do you mean donโ€™t use him to ascend other heroโ€™s?

glad oyster
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@austere cliff I found using lyca helps, yours is only epic but lyca/arden/nemora helped me a few stages

upbeat merlin
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He means don't accidently feed that hero just to ascend another

void prawn
royal timber
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@austere cliff first wall actually is 9-20 common u spend a week there or a month

void prawn
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How is this.

glad oyster
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@weak panther dont use ascended heroes a food for your heroes, as they are mostly useful at one point

weak panther
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Alright got you

glad oyster
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Ew what's 9-20

glossy juniper
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And should i get my hogan to leg?

void prawn
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Man I'm nowhere to close to any of you I feel

weak panther
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Nah I personally would say no

royal timber
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not yet wait til you get another lucius from event

weak panther
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XD nah dude Iโ€™m only on 6-36 lol

upbeat merlin
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Should I make Fereal or Grezhul legendary first?

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I use both

royal timber
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then ascend him to leg. if your tank is soft backline will die

glossy juniper
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Ok save so just sit on those for now?

austere cliff
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@glad oyster Thanks, I just pulled lyca so I haven't tried her out, yet, thanks

river lily
royal timber
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you can make sav leg easily so just hold him for now til he can carry himself

river lily
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best team? stuck at 4-36

weak panther
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Also guys whatโ€™s your opinion of thane is he good?

glad oyster
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@austere cliff yea lyca pairs well with saveas also. She boost haste and helps heroes gain energy

void prawn
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I need help witb my line up because I'm not sure what im honestly doing

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I just leveled up my first 5 elites

glad oyster
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@river lily work on getting and epic arden

royal timber
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@river lily skreg lucius, vurk sav ira or vedan

glossy juniper
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Should i spend some diamonds on pulls or wait til they drop common rate

weak panther
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I would say wait

glad oyster
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@void prawn first off got to the Rickey cart and sacrifice all the green heoes

glossy juniper
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Kk

void prawn
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Okie doke

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Brb

royal timber
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they wont fix the drop rate in the next patch so no need to save it

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unless you are aiming for new hero

weak panther
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Wait who do I drop for my team for saveas do I drop serius?

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From*

void prawn
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Done

glad oyster
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@void prawn 2nd off focus one character at a time to 81, the guy you have at 72 should be at 61. And focus getting your carry and tank to 81 first

balmy scroll
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u can

void prawn
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Okie doke

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Anything else?

weak panther
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Kevin who were you talking to? If me then ye Iโ€™ll go do that rn

glad oyster
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IRA would prob be your carry

balmy scroll
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u sorry haha

weak panther
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Alr thanks Kevin

void prawn
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I dont even use ira anymore

weak panther
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I Guess I do have too many tanks

void prawn
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Who shoukd I switch her for

glad oyster
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@void prawn domt stress using all the same factions

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It's kinda to early for that

void prawn
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I didnt even mean to, it just happened

glad oyster
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Try swapping angelo out

main trench
void prawn
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Is Angelo no good?

glad oyster
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Fawkes is a pretty good cc character but it depends what you're facing

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There better healer and cc, you have arden. Once you get arden to epic use him over angelo

balmy scroll
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i used angelo at the early games but after a new area its no good

void prawn
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I feel like I'll never get to epic sometimes lol

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Hold up I'll make some changes

glad oyster
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@main trench no put ogi up front. Your tank need to be in front to tank. And nemora in the back. Hogan is a good tank to so use him early

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@balmy scroll yea he has a few niches I never used him personally had nemora off the start @void prawn

scarlet kraken
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Hey guys

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Or should I AFK

balmy scroll
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i got nemora late and i pulled an elite angelo when i started so gg

pale kettle
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Gooood morning all! ๐Ÿ˜„

glad oyster
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Ouchy

pale kettle
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Can I use some help ?

void prawn
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Whos arden?

balmy scroll
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the old dude wilder

pale kettle
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Wha can I do with Vedan on this lineup ?

main trench
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@glad oyster Will try

glad oyster
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@scarlet kraken maybe they getting shem to 81 first and dont gradually level your heroes together. Ots better to focus on Carrie's and tanks to 81 first

weak panther
balmy scroll
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yeah or lucius

weak panther
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Alright to lvl 101 right? Or should I remove the experience used on fawkes and nemora onto saveas

glad oyster
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@weak panther yea that's a tough lvl

scarlet kraken
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Nemora front line against a brutus? Iโ€™m a lower level but idk how u making that work lmao

glad oyster
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Yea I think you have to much supporr @weak panther

craggy canyon
weak panther
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Alr but who should I remove

void prawn
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Are celestial heroes gard to get5

balmy scroll
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u can use estrilda

void prawn
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Sorry I cant type well with this phone yey

glad oyster
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@craggy canyon theres a huge power gap but might just need to afk a bit

weak panther
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In replacement for? Fawkes? But problem is if I remove fawkes I have troubles with Brutus

craggy canyon
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Ok :x

glad oyster
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@craggy canyon you try lyca at all?

balmy scroll
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just remove a support la

weak panther
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Any advice? Or do I just try lvlin and replace luscious for Brutus during the event

vague ridge
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@craggy canyon put that tasi behind brutus

glad oyster
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Should could help tasi ult quicker and sav get more hits

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@weak panther lucious and brutus are a good frontline combo

balmy scroll
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not really sure about that poppy. lucius and brutus are good in a team

weak panther
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So who do I remove do I remove fawkes?

vague ridge
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you need weak bait behind brutus so silvina attack brutus and not your team

balmy scroll
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i have both right now and even im underleveled, the enemies get rekt

glad oyster
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That's what I used for awhile until my shemria got op enough to tank

craggy canyon
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@glad oyster i don't really like Lyca but i can try

glad oyster
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@weak panther just try different things move heroes around. You get wins off some unexpecting formations sometimes

regal dust
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Yo i need some help

weak panther
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Alright

regal dust
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This is my line up right now but should I swap someone out for Belinda?

vague ridge
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@weak panther your nemora should be top to charm Saveas and your Saveas should be highest lvl of others hes your main dps he should be 90 or 100

weak panther
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Alr Iโ€™ll change my fawkes and saveas lvls around

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Is that a good idea?

vague ridge
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@regal dust yeah use belinda instead khasos

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@regal dust put lucius bottom and belinda behind him and nemora middle

regal dust
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@vague ridge ah alright I'll do that but gotta get myself some more mage gear since I got my only set on nemora

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@vague ridge thanks for the help man

vague ridge
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@regal dust put it on belinda nemora dont need that much she dont need weapon good too she just charm and heal

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@pale kettle too much mages id try Saveas instead belinda

pale kettle
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Ok

vague ridge
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@pale kettle you could use nenora to kill the enemy nemora or silvina to assasiane the mages back line

glad oyster
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Yeee

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Sav can destroy that top tank

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And tey to get sav 81 asap @pale kettle

edgy granite
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Push Sav to 91 ASAP

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for the next skill up

vague ridge
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saevas 81 is better then brutus 81

glad oyster
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Push to 900000 asap

vague ridge
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brutus has immortality

edgy granite
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for 4 seconds

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Sav is the carry

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he should be the boss

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then you can buff your Brutus

weak panther
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My fronts too squishy ye Iโ€™ll need to get my heroโ€™s up in lvl as soon as possible and Iโ€™ll hold on getting my fawkes legendary

edgy granite
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but the Sav needs to be as high skill as you can get him

vague ridge
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^

glad oyster
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Yea dont get over joye with brutus hed good but early game your levels are better else where

edgy granite
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to maximize the damage

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My sav is 100

pale kettle
edgy granite
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the rest of my team is 61

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i cleared all the way to 6-23 like that

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Sav can carry you real far

glad oyster
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You try tanking woth shem? @pale kettle

edgy granite
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Now i am leveling brutus to 91 then the rest to 80 so i can get sav to 101

pale kettle
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Im at 6-28 right now

vague ridge
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@pale kettle put your weakest hero behind brutus or front of brutus. so silvina attack brutus

pale kettle
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Shem doesnt tank right now ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vague ridge
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AI would use tasi as bait

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Arden is good he locks 3 guys

regal dust
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@vague ridge yo thanks so much for the advice!! Couldnt beat that stage before but now I did

glad oyster
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Gotcha

vague ridge
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so make tasi weaker then Arden

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and put tasi as sacrifice

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@regal dust๐Ÿ‘

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now help me beat 21-40 xD

pale kettle
#

?

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I thought Vedan was S+ tier right now... he is weaker than SAV ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vague ridge
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yeah if tasi is weaker its ok

pale kettle
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Regreting making him...

vague ridge
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@pale kettle silvina must attack tasi first ok

balmy scroll
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vedan is meh

pale kettle
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she is, but brutus lack DPS

vague ridge
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saevas is dps

pale kettle
#

I guess I need to L+ saveas to pass this stage

vague ridge
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you should make tasi and Arden 100

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and use dust to make higher saevas

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if you got the xp

manic cosmos
vague ridge
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like having all 101 is bad

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Saveas should be maxed 120

pale kettle
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should I L saveas?

finite merlin
#

Is savas that good?

vague ridge
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you prolly need xp now

pale rover
#

@vague ridge How did you pass 16-24?โ˜บ๏ธ

vague ridge
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@pale kettle no you can eat only that spider

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gotta wait

balmy scroll
#

^the other heroes are good

pale rover
vague ridge
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@pale rover wow that was long long ago in a galaxy far far away

pale rover
#

I know they're severely underlevelled.๐Ÿ˜… Asking for lineup tips.โ˜บ๏ธ

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@vague ridge I can only imagine.๐Ÿ˜…

vague ridge
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@pale rover your team is good except it packs a dps hero so not possible

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packs = lacks

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you really need that belinda

pale rover
#

Lyca does good dps, but. Maybe I do need 2 (aside from levelling).

vague ridge
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no she not.. not anymore

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you need that mage

pale rover
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I'll work on her and try her out, thank you.โ˜บ๏ธ Really? What changed with Lyca?

vague ridge
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lyca brutus tank

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Arden nemora belinda back

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belinda highest lvl possible

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well its not enought dps

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she did well because you have great tanks and cc

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but later on shes like zero dps

pale rover
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Alright, I'll level my team in a few days and try that out! Thanks again.โ˜บ๏ธ I've tried so many different combinations and I literally can't last 6 seconds. I replaced my Saveas with Lyca, who can you replace Lyca with aside from Belinda?

vague ridge
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if you make belinda 200 and brutus 161 you should be able to beat it. with 180 brutus for sure

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@pale rover ofc Shemria better then belinda but if you dont have her belinda is good i played her too in c16

dire gull
pale rover
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Awesome, I don't mind resetting them to get past a stage.โ˜บ๏ธ I have Shemira at L+, if that's good enough.

balmy scroll
#

ur up against brutus X'D

vague ridge
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@pale rover i would keep that wilders combo.. its best in game

pale kettle
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ive got saveas shemire and grehzul as my starter elites on a new server

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who do i useยจ

pale rover
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@vague ridge I also have Tasi and swap her in. My Wilders 4.โ˜บ๏ธ

vague ridge
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@pale rover i didnt know you have shemira lol.. so yeah use what i said but Shemria instead belinda ๐Ÿ˜‚

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@pale rover so Shem 200 brutus 161

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gg

glad oyster
pale rover
#

Ah, I forgot to include my hero screenshot.๐Ÿ˜…

pale kettle
#

ive got saveas shemire and grehzul as my starter elites on a new server
who do i useยจ

vague ridge
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@pale rover yeah i swap tasi with Arden or lyca depend on formation.. mostly with Arden but sometimes brutus shem tank and tasi Arden nemora back for maximum cc

pale rover
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I love Shemira, but my husband insisted I mythic+ my Grezhul.๐Ÿ˜… So yes. She's still L+.

balmy scroll
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saveas and shemira

pale rover
glad oyster
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You talking to me kev?

pale kettle
#

so i max out shemira and saveas?

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do i put eveyrthing into one

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or split it

vague ridge
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@glad oyster no its good but i dunno i think shemira shine aลฅ 160+ i think Saveas is better now but cant tell i had shemira aลฅ late game

glad oyster
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Shes tanking well AMD carrying for me right now shes always last alive

pale kettle
#

anyone?

vague ridge
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yeah grezhul is great dont worry youll make use of him

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bbl

balmy scroll
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to saham haha

left otter
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@vague ridge you are here! Thats why you arent responding in our guild discord server

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๐Ÿ˜‚

pale kettle
#

do i put everything into saveas shemire or greyzhul or do i split the resources?

pale rover
#

@vague ridge Sure, thank you for the help.โ˜บ๏ธ

vague ridge
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yeah was trying help abit lol but goin punch @left otter

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xD

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@pale rover np gl

left otter
#

Hahahahaha

vague ridge
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lunch

left otter
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Ight eat well dude โœŒ

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Gonna help vlab โœŒ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale kettle
#

mhm thanks for the help i quess

glad oyster
pale rover
#

I should have asked you too, @left otter. For a change, since I'm always asked.๐Ÿ˜…

left otter
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@pale rover asked me for? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pale rover
left otter
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Hmmm

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Make shemira myth and 161+ her. Use tasi. Boom. Done.

pale kettle
#

ive got saveas shamira grehzul as my starter elites new server new player. do i split resources or put it all into one?

balmy scroll
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@uneven schooner wrong channel my dude

left otter
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@pale kettle split then boost sav

uneven schooner
#

@pale rover will you please please add me. I'm not a noob but I really need union help to clear chapter 6

pale kettle
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boost?

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what do u mean

balmy scroll
#

...

left otter
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Boost level

uneven schooner
#

@balmy scroll no it would really help my line up lol

pale kettle
#

so i get them all to 41 then get saveas to 61?

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for example

uneven schooner
#

I went all out for carry saveas in my lineup but he's too weak without union

balmy scroll
#

well i just saw u in all channels even offtopic lol

pale rover
#

@left otter Ah, I love Shemira. I can make her ascended as soon as she turns red+, so yes. Thank you!โ˜บ๏ธ

uneven schooner
#

It's a pretty universal request :)

pale rover
#

@uneven schooner Hello, my friendslist is full. And this chat is for lineup help, apologies.โ˜บ๏ธ

left otter
#

@pale rover 161 her and you'll be killing stages with that lineup

pale rover
#

@left otter Alright, I'll save my next dust round on her.โ˜บ๏ธ I should have known better, I afk in my alt in labs when I use my red Shem.๐Ÿ˜…

arctic jackal
#

iโ€™m having a lot of trouble with this stage, is there anything else i could do to increase my chances of winning?

left otter
#

Still need like 29k dust to 240 a hero ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pale rover
#

@left otter I saw the exp points you saved up. It's mindblowing.๐Ÿ˜ข

left otter
#

@arctic jackal try nemora tasi serius lucius save.

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@pale rover yeah 90m+ haha

arctic jackal
#

@left otter okay iโ€™ll try that

pale kettle
#

Is belinda any good?

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Or should I wait for Lucius ?

balmy scroll
#

ye she good

pale rover
#

@arctic jackal You may need to level a bit up to your opponent's level, and then use a crowd control character. Tasi or Nemora.โ˜บ๏ธ

pale kettle
#

this is my Line Up

orchid agate
wet pawn
#

single target heroes

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I think

solid pond
pale rover
#

@pale kettle Belinda AND Lucius are both good. Please don't eat either of them.โ˜บ๏ธ

orchid agate
#

@wet pawn does root and stuff work?

wet pawn
#

also lucius is good to Shield his Ult cause it does a lot of damage

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Not sure I'm not that experienced

balmy scroll
#

try to ascend some heroes

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@solid pond

left otter
#

@pale kettle lucius and fawkes is a must. Thane and belinda is next. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

weary linden
#

Kind of need helping with my lineup because i cant beat 5-4 and its kind of annoying me lol

solid pond
#

Wanted to save the ascrnd for weekly, idk how often u get them

balmy scroll
#

make a lot of em rare+ lol

solid pond
#

K

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Better?

left otter
#

@weary linden auto ascend and try to build more heroes. Your lineup is good. Boost sav lvl more for dps. You can use hogan for now as a tank. So you get 3 formation bonus.

balmy scroll
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make that saveas elite if u can

weary linden
#

Okay

pale rover
#

@weary linden Lucius, Hogan, Fawkes, Vedan, Saveas.

balmy scroll
#

he's a good one in the future

left otter
#

@solid pond nice lineup but dont lvl everyone. Just 5 heroes.

arctic jackal
#

@left otter

solid pond
#

Yea so i read but i cant go for an aura if i use him

weary linden
#

So i shouldnt use nemura? @pale rover

pale rover
#

@weary linden You may lack dps.

weary linden
#

O

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Okay

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Ill try it out

left otter
#

@arctic jackal use serius instead of hogan for bonus

wet pawn
#

can any of my Top 5 be replaced or should I resonate some heroes? Maybe Belinda or Silvinia?

foggy scaffold
#

should i replace lucius with brutus for frontline, i have (front: shemira,back: lyca,nemora,tsai )

balmy scroll
#

they pretty good together imo..

finite merlin
#

On what should i spend my diamonds

weary linden
#

@pale rover thanks It helps out alot

balmy scroll
#

at noble tavern...and diff channel

pale rover
#

@weary linden Awesome! Glad it worked out for you.โ˜บ๏ธ

vast zealot
sly orchid
balmy scroll
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shemira good

weary linden
#

@sly orchid if youre looking for a good healer nemura is good

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But if you want a good dps

arctic jackal
#

@left otter tysm lmao you just gave me a new team i think

weary linden
#

You should for the girlbon the horse

left otter
#

@arctic jackal its goood? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

weary linden
#

Forgot her bame xd

arctic jackal
#

super good

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i finished with four people left

pale rover
#

@sly orchid That will depend on the other members of your team. Do you have any of those heroes already?โ˜บ๏ธ

sly orchid
#

I don't ๐Ÿ˜ญ

covert robin
pale rover
#

@sly orchid Can I see your heroes?

sly orchid
#

Dunno if I should just reset my account either

balmy scroll
#

dont D:

scarlet compass
#

i'm at the tail end of chapter 8, but starting to struggle, is my lineup good?

pale rover
#

@sly orchid You can buy Shemira. Then Lucius, Hogan front; Fawkes, Silvina, Shemira back.

scarlet compass
#

should note, i use nemora instead of silvina

sly orchid
#

So ditch ferael

spice mauve
sly orchid
#

?

pale rover
#

@covert robin Crowd control. Arden instead of Ira.

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@scarlet compass Brutus, Lucius front; Saveas, Khasos, and Arden for a 3-1-1 team.

covert robin
#

Ty Aero

scarlet compass
#

so arden will be better than heals? i'll give it a shot!

pale rover
#

@scarlet compass If they can't attack you, you won't need to heal.โ˜บ๏ธ Khasos also gives you lifesteal.

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@sly orchid Ferael is great late game but early game, you may want to utilize someone else. Keep him and make him stronger for late game, for sure if you plan to use Graveborn.

earnest gyro
pale rover
#

@spice mauve You may need to level, and afk a bit. I would use Grezhul instead of Thoran.

jade seal
pale rover
#

@earnest gyro Lucius, Fawkes, and temporarily, Estrilda at the back. I would normally say Belinda, but Brutus buffs phys attacks.

earnest gyro
#

Brutus and saveas in front?

hardy pivot
pale rover
#

@earnest gyro Brutus and Lucius are the tanks. Saveas behind Brutus.

earnest gyro
#

And who would I replace estrilda with eventually?

subtle tree
spice mauve
#

@pale rover ah ty Iโ€™ll try that! Grezhul felt really squishy to me so I abandoned him. Maybe he just needs more levels though

pale rover
#

@earnest gyro Mauler or Lightbearer, in late game it can be Vurk, Belinda. Do some more pulls and see who you end up with.โ˜บ๏ธ

granite phoenix
#

@spice mauve Gredhul il very good hight level

pale rover
#

@spice mauve He's pretty squishy early game, but Thoran.. he folds over and sacrifices your backline. So I dislike using him.โ˜บ๏ธ

earnest gyro
#

Thanks

granite phoenix
#

Against magic team I love him

spice mauve
#

Iโ€™ll try and bring Grez up to speed then! Would it be worth resetting Thoran at cart this early?

late vessel
main summit
late vessel
#

is that beatable or do i just have to AFK longer?

scarlet compass
#

@pale rover
Yeah khasos is my next lab buy so I can get him stronger because he still does quite a bit of damage with that utility, good point on the night attacking part I will test it out, hopefully he can live through silvina

pale rover
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@subtle tree Lucius, Hogan front; Isabella, Shemira, Silvina at the back.

main summit
#

@late vessel try arden root

sonic gull
#

What should I do with these

balmy scroll
#

what chapter is that? i think its beatable

late vessel
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hmm ill see if arden survives silvina

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@balmy scroll 8-32

balmy scroll
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oh its beatable ye

pale rover
#

@scarlet compass Put Arden in the middle, Saveas below him so when Silvina comes for Arden Saveas will target him as soon as possible.

granite phoenix
#

Oreo I like what you choose, but its funny its almost only good heros in last game and you are in early. Try to have bonus faction :)

main summit
#

@sonic gull take horgan then horgan e+

balmy scroll
#

@sonic gull choose someone from graveborn/lightbearer to be elite. i prefer silvina and ohgan being elite

sonic gull
#

Ok

late vessel
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@granite phoenix yeaa i like only focused on the endgame guys, who should i switch out?

granite phoenix
#

@late vessel you miss damage at this level,can you show me all your heroes?

signal steppe
wet pawn
#

Would Belinda replace anyone or silvinia

balmy scroll
#

replace vedan i guess @signal steppe

late vessel
signal steppe
#

@balmy scroll thanks!

late vessel
#

my arden also gets shredded by that silvina haha

scarlet compass
#

I may just need more levels . Can't burn through front fast enough for saveas to turn to sivina

late vessel
#

i got closer by making my nemora have less def than arden so silvina targets her instead, but everyone still ends up dying

tawdry river
#

Any tips guys

late vessel
#

also, enemy silvinas are so OP lol

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seems like everyone gets stuck on silvina levels

wet pawn
#

enemy heroes op as fk

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but when theyre on my team

whole veldt
#

Is there any real use for Estrilda?

wet pawn
#

wet toilet paper

granite phoenix
#

@late vessel yes, I will think a little with the new event if its possible for you to have good early game

late vessel
#

@granite phoenix thanks! any advice appreciated

heady thistle
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@proud tangle just wanted to say thanks! Your advice helped me clear chapter 5

weary kite
main summit
late vessel
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@granite phoenix ok i did end up beating that stage by making my nemora have the lowest def, and then using tasi + arden

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and switching brutus to top front so he took more damage

knotty knot
proud tangle
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@heady thistle good to know welcome to chapter 6 now where maulers will eat you up brutus tankiness plus oneshoting ability khasos and saveas dmg and how anoting golus and ankhira can be

sonic gull
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Can someone give me a quick lineup for this
And should I keep lvling shemira first?

granite phoenix
proud tangle
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can you show what enemies are on 6-12 like a screen shot of the level @knotty knot

knotty knot
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@proud tangle

sturdy moth
knotty knot
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I've tried a full light team (with athalia) and still get shredded

main summit
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@sturdy moth need more sustain, a nemora or some sort

sturdy moth
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Iโ€™ve tried with all 5 light elites that I have, Iโ€™ve tried 3 light + nemora + shemira

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I have nemora

celest elm
oblique quail
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How should I line them up? What faction should I pull?

main summit
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@sturdy moth play belinda, and be patient and level up your heroes to 81

proud tangle
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if i remenber on 6 12 you have golus and saveas on top i dont use many of your heroes so i dont know how strong they are but try this oni

main summit
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@celest elm need higher level tank and play nemora

knotty knot
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Alright, thanks @proud tangle

celest elm
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nemora instead of estrilda?

sturdy moth
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@main summit do you think I could use her as my โ€œcarryโ€ for a while? Reset a few heroes and get her to 81 instead of Lucius?

main summit
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@celest elm take estrilda, maybe play nemora instead of shemira silvina

proud tangle
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athalia
estrilda or skreg
belinda or lucius
lucius or skreg or estrilda
belinda or ankhira or niru

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@knotty knot

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but i ve never used most of those heroes personally so i cant say how good they are

main summit
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@sturdy moth lucius is important to be 81, play belinda as dps

celest elm
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who should be in front?

main summit
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@celest elm lucius, estrilda unless you are able to pull a better tank then estrilda middle position. I use to have my estrilda front too until i pulled a serius

knotty knot
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Got ya, I'll do some experimenting and see if I can pass. Thnx

sturdy moth
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Okay I just donโ€™t want to waste all my diamonds on resets. I may reset Hogan and then just pump Belinda to 81.

main summit
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@sturdy moth make sure frontline is tanky enough

hardy pivot
sturdy moth
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Sucks that you canโ€™t reset all the time because it costs diamonds. Iโ€™d like to be able to at least mess around with some setups before committing to spending.

proud tangle
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yeah i have skreg but havent used him at all because he seems really good late game with lots of levels but not so good early and dont have athalia or belinda yet but know how good athalia is and my estrilda is also lvl 1 with skreg so yeah ankhira never used her aswell she is anoying to face but doest seem that good to have on team

sturdy moth
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I have a ton of diamonds but I think Iโ€™m holding off til they fix summoning rates.

knotty knot
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Passed! Thnx epic

proud tangle
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personnaly i have used the reset mechanic lots of times to test stuff around it inst that many diamonds and on my opinion is a big part of the fun of the game testing new stuff to try and push further

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cool oni

sturdy moth
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Would Shemira as a solo carry not be sufficient? Iโ€™ve read that she can pretty much drag any team through like Chapter 10 or so

main summit
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@sturdy moth i would suggest pulling now, dont know when they will adjust the rates and itโ€™s not on the next patch

knotty knot
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Used: athalia
Lucius
Belinda
Estrilda
Niru

sturdy moth
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@main summit well I have 10 faction specific summons. Based on what I have, do you suggest a specific faction?

main summit
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LB seems okay with what you have as a majority

knotty knot
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No, I lied, niru was back mid then Belinda was bottom

sturdy moth
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Is that he best strategy generally? Build up toward one faction?

hardy pivot
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Can someone help me with my formation? :)

proud tangle
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having 2 factions strong is generally best until late on bcs late on you need to have lots of good heros and keep swithing stuff to counter their stuff to pass trough

pale kettle
balmy scroll
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lucius/brutus front

proud tangle
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me and you vladimir on the same spot always lol also struggling with that one

pale kettle
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Yeah

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I'm gonna change my name cause yeah... xD

light elm
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You usually put brutus against brutus

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And put saveas behind your brutus

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Try Fawkes mid

remote spindle
light elm
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Or wherever he puts brutus under

oak gate
pale kettle
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Okay changed my name hey Gam4r it's me vlad

light elm
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@remote spindle belinda for dps, estrilda for survival

remote spindle
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So in this situation where Iโ€™m p overpowers estrilda?

light elm
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This your ingame name KazThonk

pastel whale
light elm
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@remote spindle I didn't understand the question

pale kettle
light elm
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@pastel whale well 1st,you need levels. And 2nd, you need a dps

remote spindle
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@light elm so if I want to pass this level, Bc Iโ€™m p overpowered, I want to go with Estrilda?

balmy scroll
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maybe switch khasos and shemira's positions..

proud tangle
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im trying some different stuff vlad removing fawkes and replacing it with other stuff he doesnt seem that usefull to me this one puts khasos on coffin he gets out of coffin and get oneshot by him for me but mine are still lower lvl ill say if i get something close to win or even win vlad

light elm
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@pale kettle tasi instead of ferael anyday

hexed imp
sturdy moth
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Any downside to auto ascending?

balmy scroll
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it's rando i think

pastel whale
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What would you recommend for a dps

pale kettle
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@light elm okay thx but why?

light elm
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@pale kettle because she her cc is superior

sturdy moth
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@balmy scroll pretty sure it just combines exact copies of Rare into Rare+ and Elite into Elite+

visual rock
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just got e+ belinda

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where is she good

balmy scroll
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i mean itll be a random hero

light elm
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Tasi is one of the top 3 heroes yet

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@sturdy moth if you don't want to ascend everyone maybe it's bad then

pale kettle
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@light elm thx i get the feeling she gets destroyed like suger in the rain

balmy scroll
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

light elm
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@sturdy moth yea only same hero. Never faction ascension

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@pastel whale belinda from what I can see of your roster. Shemira is very good at thya level too

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Isabella is decent

sturdy moth
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But why wouldnโ€™t I always combine exact copies? It doesnโ€™t cost any resources right? And frees up space

light elm
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There's a weekly quest

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Ascend 2 heroes

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Maybe if you run low on diamonds to pull and want to save for next week lol

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Can't think of anything else

sturdy moth
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Thatโ€™s fair I guess haha. Though there are other ways to finish weeklies.

light elm
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Oh oh got a reason. Maybe you're running low on blues for bounties

solid pond
sturdy moth
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Yeah thatโ€™s true too.

pastel whale
sturdy moth
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For now I think Iโ€™m just gonna auto ascend and focus on leveling some specific heroes.

pastel whale
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I don't have the best of gear

light elm
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@pastel whale belinda for any wilder and wait

robust cave
pastel whale
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Thanks ๐Ÿ˜Š

robust cave
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๐Ÿค” idk what kinda lineup to make

light elm
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@devout basin thoran in front put shem/Vedan back. And most important, get levels

devout basin
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ok, ty @light elm

light elm
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@robust cave lucius estrilda belinda arden and for 5th hero, how far are you from 45 labyrinth coins? You can buy nemora

robust cave
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Gotcha

balmy scroll
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Who to legend: Estrilda/Raine?

light elm
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Whoever you can get to legend+

weary kite
haughty token
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Why did you promote Hogan so high?

light elm
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Fodder

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Also useful early game

pale rover
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@balmy scroll They're both late game heroes. Just get who you can as far as you can.

haughty token
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So I've been trying for awhile, just can't beat this cruel level

balmy scroll
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@pale rover ok then haha

light elm
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@weary kite I think cc is much more useful than raw dps

spice mauve
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Would it be worth resetting Thoran and levelling Grezhul instead? Or is this too early for him? (6-20)

light elm
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Tasi arden nemora take your pick(s)

glad oyster
weary kite
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@haughty token I rolled a lot of hogans early on

light elm
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You got a pretty nice account

haughty token
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Gotcha @weary kite

light elm
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@haughty token too much power difference I think

haughty token
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I don't have Tasi...

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Still? Dang!

pale rover
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@glad oyster I love Arden so I wouldn't eat him, personally.

obtuse warren
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hey can i bother someone for help on lineup?

haughty token
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I've only finally had Arden be a deciding factor lol

light elm
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@glad oyster you mean ascend arden ๐Ÿ˜‰

pale rover
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@haughty token Big power gaps are mostly doable at higher levels, but early on you'll have to match the opponents' levels or more.

glad oyster
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Thanks I think I'll hold, I'd rather be able to L+ Arden right away

haughty token
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And my experience is that raw power is better lol.

light elm
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Early game raw power is absolutely better

haughty token
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@pale rover ah, thanks! Been doing like 40k power gaps, guess this is too much

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Ah ok @light elm

light elm
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Not much cc to be had early

pale rover
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@spice mauve I use Grez on my baby account and he worked just fine. I got stuck at 7-40 though!

haughty token
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Unfortunately the afk tier guide doesn't specifically say that lol

light elm
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Once you start running into higher team powers is when you need cc

haughty token
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Gotcha

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So I heard that people on Reddit like Thoran, but people here seem to hate him, what gives?

light elm
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He's not bad

pale rover
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I don't hate him, he just folds over and lets your backline die. But he's terrifying against magic teams. They melt like butter.

light elm
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^

haughty token
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Ah gotcha

pale rover
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I had to make sure my Arden didn't ulti so he wouldn't die to the Thoran attacking me.๐Ÿ˜…

haughty token
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Once I get my 5th guy to 100 I'm going to be gradually swapping them out for elite+ so I can start getting everyone to 101

reef flower
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I used Thoran early game and he was a hot mess

haughty token
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Ow lol

reef flower
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Yeeted him quickly lmao

haughty token
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Not going to lie, I auto 2x most my battles, well, all lol

pale rover
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Almost all heroes are viable. It's just how you put them together, and the stages they excel in.

light elm
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Me too

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If I can't auto I just afk

pale rover
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Manual skilling makes a huge difference, though.

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For example, I only pop all my phys attack ultis after Brutus roars.

light elm
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If you are stuck try manual it's often enough to break through

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I'm just too lazy lol

sturdy moth
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I guess Iโ€™m about to summon 10, 4 times to burn through my diamond

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Hoping I donโ€™t regret it when they update summon rates

reef flower
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I did 5 summons this morning and got all green heroes ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pale rover
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Don't worry, I just summoned everything I had.๐Ÿ˜…

haughty token
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Lol. I am still too noob to know ACTUAL strategy

pale rover
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So you're not alone. by then we'll have new diamonds to spend.๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

slate pivot
light elm
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@reef flower hope you used scrolls and not diamonds

heady thistle
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Golus or Warek?

haughty token
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I currently treat the game like a puzzle and swap formations and characters until I win

reef flower
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@light elm of course

haughty token
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What's wrong with using diamonds?

light elm
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@slate pivot how long does ogi live

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Only use diamonds for 10x

haughty token
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Oh yes I see

main summit
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Is seirus any good

gloomy terrace
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at what point can Estrilda tank front line?

balmy scroll
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imo warek

light elm
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He's decent from what i hear @main summit

slate pivot
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He is the second to go after Lucius. Not very long.

pale rover
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@main summit He's good.

balmy scroll
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never got to try seirus

sturdy moth
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40 pulls, 2 elites lmao. Elite Lucius and Elite Warek

light elm
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@gloomy terrace she doesn't tank very well. Her forte is more buffing

reef flower
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Feelsbadman @sturdy moth

pale rover
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I dislike Warek and Golus. But they're different; Golus is a tank, Warek is some sort of rage punching beast.๐Ÿ˜…

light elm
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That's better than usual tthough

balmy scroll
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accurate description lol

light elm
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@slate pivot do you have usable graveborns

heady thistle
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Yea but I need one of them for faction bonus lol die to my luck with pulls

haughty token
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I feel like people are misusing this thread suddenly lol

pale rover
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A lot of high levels in arena have Warek on full mauler teams, though. So shrug.

main summit
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Faction pull for Lb or wilders better

balmy scroll
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i personally prefer warek XD

heady thistle
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Welp guess that answers that

light elm
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@slate pivot scratch that. Try estrilda and hogan instead of vedan and ogi

ivory geode
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Red circle is my current team I debating on if I should replace someone.. suggestions?

heady thistle
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Thanks @balmy scroll @pale rover

sturdy moth
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Maybe I should just try to get some of my Rare+ into Elites?

balmy scroll
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿฝ

slate pivot
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@light elm I have Silvina and Nitu that I could put on the leveling crystal if needed.

main summit
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Whatโ€™s the highest lvl elite/elite+ can go to

balmy scroll
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120

pale rover
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@ivory geode There are no bonuses, but good heroes.

ivory geode
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yeah I wasn't aiming for bonuses because I couldn't get them

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without having to use a bad hero ect

clear void
slate pivot
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@light elm Alright thank you. I'll try that. I just replaced Estrilda for Tasi and I had her ascended as well.

balmy scroll
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vedan aint really good...

light elm
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@slate pivot nah vedan doesn't do much anyway he's way underleveled. Your best bet is to put cc or buffing units to power up shemira. So arden lyca estrilda and such. Also replace ogi with a better tank if you can. Maybe hogan

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@slate pivot oh no tasi is essential

obtuse warren
pale rover
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@ivory geode I think you'll do just fine. Either way, you have two great tanks (one with a heal), an aoe, one person heavy hitter to focus, and a crowd controller.

old stone
light elm
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@clear void shemira performs better than vedan from what I've seen

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I'd overlevel her

clear void
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So under level Vedan and over level shimera?

light elm
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@obtuse warren top 4 and fawkes

clear void
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so three at lv 61 and 1 week one?

slate pivot
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@light elm Yeah I figured out about Tasi quickly Haha. I will definitely try that though. Maybe itll get me somewhere.

light elm
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@obtuse warren maybe estrilda for hogan

pastel bramble
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@clear void a few good supoorts like arden will help too

light elm
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Maybe

pastel bramble
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@clear void savs is also a ton of dmg wjen over lvd

pale rover
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@clear void Don't put Vedan in front if you can help it, when he bat forms he'll leave your backline open. You can overlevel Shem for dps, and use Hogan in front place temporarily.

obtuse warren
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ok thnx ill do that

pastel bramble
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But you also need some higher ascentions

light elm
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@clear void there's no point in an underleveled vedan. Scrap him entirely

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He provides nothing

balmy scroll
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i think hogan is even better than vedan lol

clear void
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Well wht i have been doing is. Lucius, Vedan front line, With Silvinia, Shemira and savs back line

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My problem here in lies, i can take 1 more unit to lv 61, if i scrap vedan.

light elm
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Shemira

clear void
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but that leaves me with an under leveled hogan and vedan

pale rover
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^ and scrap Vedan for Hogan first.

light elm
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How underleved

clear void
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well 11 levels would go to shemira.

pale rover
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At least he's an actual tank, so he will last longer.

sturdy moth
light elm
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Ye

balmy scroll
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sure

light elm
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You can use golus if you like him though but he isn't something fantastic

sterile creek
#

Could someone explain pls why Hogan is worth building?

balmy scroll
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tank

clear void
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@pale rover Kay, so i scraped Vedan. Would you say level Shemira to 61? Or keep her 50 and take Hogan to 52?

native willow
pale rover
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@clear void Overlevel Shemira. Either way you'll have to wait until Hogan is at a viable level as well.

light elm
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@native willow I'd change nemora or Fawkes, probably nemora

pale rover
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@native willow Lucius, Hogan front; Fawkes, Vedan/Isabella, Shemira back.

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Fawkes and Arden are both crowd controllers, so you will need more dps.

arctic cradle
native willow
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Okay, thanks!

light elm
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Belinda and lucius

scarlet plank
pale rover
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@arctic cradle Your team is good as is, but take note that Lyca is better late game than early. I'd use Raine in her place to enable Belinda to attack faster.

arctic cradle
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Ok ty!

pale rover
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@scarlet plank Lucius, Hogan front; Arden, Mirael, Raine back.

haughty token
#

So Raine is pretty good?

scarlet plank
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so elites are not always better?

pale rover
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Raine is basically an enabler. She makes sure people who hit hard, hit more often via ultis. Silvina, Shemira, Belinda, etcetera.

burnt sandal
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help pls

pale rover
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@scarlet plank Elites are always better, so it would help to get the ones I mentioned up as soon as you can.

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@burnt sandal You will need to level up. Lucius, Grezhul front; Belinda, Raine, Vedan/Isabella back.

proud radish
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Hello, I'm new here, can I ask some line up tips?

bleak robin
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Are there any tank grAveborns

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To replace lucius, or should I just keep a 4 gb bonus

low wren
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Need help with line up, can reset some hero if need it, also pulled Ferael is he good?

pale rover
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Grezhul and Thoran are graveborn tanks.

bleak robin
#

Ah yes the two idiots I don't have ok

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Ajjshd

pale rover
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๐Ÿ˜…

bleak robin
#

Niru has been working as my second tank, as a magic one lately so I was curious

solid totem
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Thoran is pretty good

proud radish
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Line up tips anyone?

proud tangle
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which one should i level first hogan fawkes vedan or other ? current line up is lucius shemira fawkes hogan and saveas i have fawkes on crystal but im using him and not vedan now since he isnt leveld enought to be super useful and its nice to have the lightbearer faction bonus