i got bored of rerolling for brutus so i guess i'll start leveling shemira
#lineup-help
pale rover
I didn't get Brutus right away, actually. I started with a Nemora. Now he's my highest.
exotic jungle
@pale rover saveas fall off at stage 15
pale rover
Your team can still change so much as you progress.
I see! I believe some people said he falls off earlier, but for me he fell off late 14s.
exotic jungle
I see. :)
obsidian geyser
i have nemora-shemira-saveas-lucius-estrilda atm as my team
dont know which one i should change first
exotic jungle
@obsidian geyser replace with what hero?
obsidian geyser
hmmm i'll probably get 1 brutus from the eggs event and change estrilda with him, after that i don't know if any blue hero would be worth advancing to switch p someone
exotic jungle
@obsidian geyser just keep advancing shemire, it's repeated alot but shemira can really carry your team once she's strong enough
obsidian geyser
hmm i see,i'll just invest on shemira then :p
hushed iron
@exotic jungle I agree.
waxen rain
Move shemira yo boy
calm kelp
where?
obsidian geyser
i should be able to make her + from the labyrinth soon
calm kelp
still lost
waxen rain
Damn
I know it’s sound weird but u just have to keep trying because crit and stuff
It depends on luck
exotic jungle
Try estrilda, lucius, lyca, shemira, belinda
exotic jungle
Lol
pale rover
@calm kelp Some of your people are still a bit underlevelled, you may need to wait and afk a bit more.
calm kelp
im stuck here for like 2 days now
pale rover
I get stuck at some stages for an entire week. Sometimes it really just takes time.😅
Meanwhile, do tower.
calm kelp
stuck at tower too 😦
jagged blade
At least 70% of this entire channel is just "afk more" xD
noble abyss
Labarynth
jagged blade
Silvina and Ferael on crystal
Use Silvina instead of Athalia
Vurk and Ferael are pretty interchangeable so swap depending on which faction you're fighting against
pale kettle
I use:
1: lucius
2: hogan
3: seavas
4: athalia
5: vurk
And i was stomped
Before this fight i finish all battle with max Health
Now i don’t know why i was stomped
pale rover
@pale kettle Because Maulers are weak to lightbearers. Use graveborn, if you can.
That, and you're 20 levels under the opponent.
Vurk isn't so good early game, but keep him. I used him to replace my Saveas eventually.
pale kettle
I want to replace maulers with silvina and farael
But athalia give me the faction boost
rich ice
Graveborns or maulers with light in front are better? I do like shemira she is op but this vurk and sevaes are distustingly strong
Whats your opinion
boreal bane
I have Arden, ulmus grezhul lucius and kaz as a team (my only elites lol)
latent night
no love for Isabella?
latent night
I have shemira isabella silvina
but my only good frontliner is Lucius
Estrilda isn't really doing me any favors
rich ice
A moderator yesterday told that hogan is strong so i heard his advice and put him in the formation
latent night
Hogan? really?
rich ice
Yy
latent night
gonna try him now, stuck at 6 24
rich ice
Same here lol
calm kelp
hogan is bad, almost every tank is better
rich ice
Well i thought the same but why he said he is strong if anyone else says the opposite
I mean there must be a reason
pale rover
Early game, Hogan is decent. He has the stun and knockdown.
calm kelp
you can try him, resonating crystal helps you, so you have nothing to lose
pale rover
Estrilda is super squishy until you make her 161.
rapid jetty
well hogan in labyrinth runs are fun to use 😄
latent night
Lucius is the best tank I've seen so far, Ogi might be nice but he doesn't go with my lineup
royal timber
testing
pale rover
Lucius is pretty much your healer shielder, so he can take the place of Nemora while you add another cc or dps.
Again, still dependent on your other characters' factions.
rapid jetty
wait sorry i have confused hogan with warek
royal timber
lucius is single healer full def tank, he cant replace an AoE healer
rapid jetty
in that case... disregard my previous comment. almost NEVER pick hogan as a recruitment 😂
latent night
pale rover
@royal timber Yes, he can't. But at higher stages you very situationally need healers.☺️
latent night
^ current lineup, getting destroyed every time
granite phoenix
Hey, everybody. I was wondering do you think they will ugrade the % of epic as said in the announcement. I dont know if I wait to use my cristals 😂
pale rover
@granite phoenix They never said they would upgrade the epic percentage, they said they would buff rates. It could be more blues, less greens.☺️ And they never gave a date.
rich ice
@pale rover best tanks in your opinion?
latent night
think it just depends on the rest of your lineup
game is pretty well balanced far as I can tell
granite phoenix
@pale rover Yes but its still better than nothing 😍 But I dont know if it worst it to wait their new version
royal timber
lucius is a pure def tank. he dont leave his spot
jagged blade
@pale kettle if you scroll up to your original message I gave you some advice, I just forgot to @ you
pale rover
@rich ice It will depend on your lineup and who you're up against. I have one of each faction to make sure I don't get crushed.☺️
rich ice
@@pale rover I have graveborns on backline
pale rover
My main tank is Brutus. I sometimes put Lucius, Estrilda, Grezhul as my "offtank" depending on who I'm up against.
@rich ice I usually pair graveborns with lightbearers, and maulers with wilders. That's personal preference, it feels more balanced to me.
rich ice
Lucius estrilda good frontline form?
pale rover
@rich ice Late game is good for Estrilda. Otherwise she's too soft with little to no utility.
rich ice
Pf cant find a good lightb tank except luci
pale rover
@rich ice Lucius, Hogan front (temporarily); Vedan, Shemira, Isabella/Silvina back.
rich ice
You think that vedan work better than ferael because i didnt feel that way since the last time i tried it
smoky osprey
Hi all. Just need some help. I’m stuck in this floor.
Can I do something now or should I just be patient and grind?
pale rover
@rich ice Early game, Vedan is decent. Ferael is good late game.
@smoky osprey Grind, the gap is a bit big. You also have 3 tanks in your lineup, maybe pick 2 and build from there?
smoky osprey
I see. Thanks. Will do that.
pale rover
@wet pawn If Niru is still working for you, then keep him first.
wet pawn
im stuck atm tho
random spindle
Emove hogan
wet pawn
someone told me to Max Shem to 81 rn
obsidian geyser
how does the noble tavern ticket work? is it a random hero from the selected faction?
granite whale
Ye
random spindle
@marble thunder swnd ur roster here
obsidian geyser
hmmm is there a better choice out of the 4 XD ?
granite whale
Hmm depends on who is the carry on ur team than pick that faction
frank lichen
Best line up for soren?🤔
obsidian geyser
that would probably be shemira atm but i'm planning to get brutus from the eggs event
marble thunder
Advice needed,
Fromt line: estrilda, lucious
Backline: lyca, nova, belinda
Possible for end game?
Im currently using :
Front line: nova, lucious
Backline: savaes, arden, lyca
lilac sandal
Can someone give me recommendation for my top 5?
Change hogan to brutus?
Vedan to saveas?
pale rover
@wet pawn Brutus, Lucius for front; Khasos, Saveas, and possibly Shemira for a 3-1-1 lineup first.
@marble thunder Who is Nova?
pale kettle
Planning to level the following lineup for mid-game (above lvl 61), can someone critique?
Front line: Lucius, Khasos
Back line: Saveas, Nemora, Arden (Arden can be switched with Kaz or Isabella)
marble thunder
Nemora i mean
normal echo
Khasos is a better backline I think
wet pawn
@pale rover genius it worked
pale rover
Yes, there are stronger tanks than Khasos. He gets tougher late game, but so do the others.
wet pawn
t Y
marble thunder
I got 3 dupe estrlida but idk of she worth it to be core tank
pale rover
He's mainly for the team life leech.
pale kettle
@normal echo only other frontline heroes i have is thoran and hogan though, what could be a good lineup?
pale rover
@wet pawn Welcome, glad you progressed.
pale kettle
Front line: Lucius, Thoran
Back line: Saveas, Nemora, Khasos
this?
covert goblet
Is Belinda any good?
normal echo
I think you could use Kaz as a Frontline but I am not so sure if that's a good combo
Belinda is quiet good
pale kettle
kinda afraid kaz will die early lol, but i'll try
pale rover
@pale kettle If you have Shemira, use her instead of Nemora.
@covert goblet Belinda is good.
@pale kettle Kaz's nice dodge kicks in later game, early on she's pretty soft.
pale kettle
@pale rover i don't have shemira right now though @normal echo yeah kaz dies really quick at the front
proven rune
hey lads, stuck on 8-32 what do you recommend? Thanks ❤
normal echo
Yeah idk what your progress is, Kaz is strongest in late game I think
covert goblet
When I get belinda in two days, should I ascend her using hogan and angelo who are elite+? And if yes, who should I replace for her?
pale rover
@pale kettle Could you send your hero screenshot?
@covert goblet Lucius and Brutus front; Saveas, Belinda, Thane at the back.
pale kettle
covert goblet
Thane?? Is yurk not better as I will get the faction bonus
pale rover
@pale kettle Okay. Lucius, Golus front; Saveas, Khasos, Belinda back.
pale kettle
@pale rover thanks!
pale rover
@covert goblet There's also a bonus with Thane in. Feel free to use Vurk if you prefer him, both he and Thane are late game heroes either way.
covert goblet
Oh wait I get one with thane too
Okay, thanks for the help. I haven’t even looked at Thane as Yurk was one of the first elite I got and he seems to be good. I’ll have a look at him now and see where things go
pale rover
@covert goblet Vurk is definitely good, but late game. I like him better than Thane, but try both to see which works for you. There's always the resonating crystal.
pale kettle
should i retire some of the heroes so i can level others? or just use resonating crystal
covert goblet
I’ll put him in when a spot opens up, I’ve been cycling who I’ve been putting in to see if anyone stands out
pale kettle
reset* i meant
covert goblet
I’m new but I use the crystal to test out new heroes, then reset if I like them and want them in my main team
pale kettle
yeah gotta wait another 5 hours sighs
pale rover
Retire greens. Use resonating to try them out and level them, only really level your "core".
reef needle
Any tips on 5-32?
pale rover
Maybe temporarily.. Lucius, Skregg in front; Khasos, Saveas, Belinda at the back.
@marble thunder
marble thunder
Ok
wary matrix
Any tips on 6-28? Can’t beat this stage.
pale rover
You need to level. The gap is too big. @wary matrix
wary matrix
Alright. My team is fine? Or do i have better options
molten moat
You coukld use some formationbuff if you can.
pale rover
Then break through the top line first, so put Brutus and Saveas top, maybe for formation bonus use Golus as the off tank and Vedan and Shemira back with Saveas..?
wary matrix
Great advice, thanks 😃
pale rover
@wary matrix I hope that works for you. I can't see which Wilders you have.😅
crisp perch
Who do I level first?
wary matrix
pale rover
@wary matrix You have my favorite, Tasi! You could also try to cc them down. Brutus, Golus, Tasi, Arden, and Nemora. But I feel like this setup lacks dps.😅
@crisp perch Brutus, or Lucius.
crisp perch
Thanks
wary matrix
Haha i think so too.. I heard good stories about task. She has a good skill set, but could I replace her for something in my current team?
Tasi*
Maybe for shemira? She not that strong now
pale rover
@wary matrix Sure you could. Brutus, Golus, Saveas, then Arden and Tasi.
Saveas can be the dps and you have dps/cc in Arden, and cc in Tasi.
wary matrix
Hmm.. would that be a better team than my current at this stage of the game? I feel like Brutus, Lucius, saveas, Nemora and shemira is pretty strong
waxen rain
Well, I think of the enemy has Silviana then your Nemora is pretty much useless
stuck dirge
Hi guys, can anyone tell me if my lineup is any good or should i chandge smthing
waxen rain
U don’t need the flame girl( sorry I forgot her name)
stuck dirge
started playing 3 days ago Xd
pale rover
@wary matrix Feel free to do whichever lineup you feel works for you. Don't change it if it works!
spare garnet
Thank you :)
wary matrix
@pale rover thank you, I will keep your setup in mind. Your beautiful btw 😉
pale rover
@stuck dirge Brutus, Lucius front; Saveas, Khasos, Thane back for bonus.
spare garnet
Golus, silvira or nemora for next 81?
static marsh
Yo would you guys rock the same lineup as me or would you change something
waxen rain
@spare garnet Nemora would be next since u need more heal
spare garnet
Thank you again :)
waxen rain
@static marsh I would change if I were u
zinc crown
Stuck on 9-20 (nemora boss) and I don’t know which champs to go with. Haven’t been lucky with pulls lately so my wilders are stuck on 120
stuck dirge
@waxen rain and @pale rover, ty for the help, any advice for going forward ?
static marsh
@hexed garnetletters what would you change?
waxen rain
@stuck dirge U should add some healer like Nemora so that Your brutus won’t die easily
wary matrix
@pale rover I broke through the top and won easy.... even with underleveled team! Thanks so much
static marsh
Can someone suggest me a lineup? Yall can see my heroes on the picture above
pale rover
I'm honestly so glad I'm helping you guys.☺️ @wary matrix @wet pawn
waxen rain
We’re glad to help
pale rover
I'm stuck in my game, might as well help others get unstuck.😅
static marsh
this some serious gangshit in here
left otter
Yeah dude.
static marsh
@waxen rain you said you'd change something in my team earlier.. what exactly?
left otter
Last time I was #classic-questions gang but now im here. Hahaha
pale rover
@zinc crown Do you have/could you make a Silvina? She will help you take out that Nemora.
sage lichen
Are there any legendary heroes that I should absolutely not fodder?
pale kettle
@pale rover same here, i just reset my hero and went with the team you recommended and started clearing stages again
not sure why it works but it does
left otter
@sage lichen arden.
wet pawn
damn son I just found boots for my Shemira and it pushed me through a wall
left otter
Sav can be fodder after chapt 14-15
wet pawn
feels so good boiii
pale rover
@left otter Questions are more generalized. You just look at teams here and minmax, I prefer it.😅
wet pawn
my dopamine system 🤑
waxen rain
@static marsh I think u change Morvus for sth else
pale rover
@pale kettle You're welcome, glad it worked for you.☺️
waxen rain
Guys try to have 3 of the same hero so u will get a faction bonus
static marsh
Yeah I'm tryna catch that faction boost with morvus thats why he's in there @waxen rain
wary matrix
Now I’m fucked... haha how I will ever win this.
wet pawn
yeah coincidence that its also a Brutus stage?
gleaming inlet
What should i level to pair with shemira lucius and vadan?
pale rover
@static marsh Lucius, temporarily Hogan for front; Isabella, Silvina, Vedan for back.
wet pawn
fk that guyyy
waxen rain
@static marsh it’s good that u think of faction bonus but ur team lack cc
pale rover
^ You do need cc, for sure.☺️
pale kettle
before i came on discord i foddered a bunch of saveas fml
static marsh
but silvini and vedan are only rare tho
does it matter or nah?
Just started playing yesterdaY
pale rover
You can get him again, it's much better to fodder a Saveas than fodder a mythic hero.😅
waxen rain
It doesn’t matter
static marsh
whats cc btw.. I'm a noob
wary matrix
@pale rover any tips?😜
pale kettle
yeah i thought mythic heroes would outperform every legendary
waxen rain
Crowd control
static marsh
oh thanks
pale rover
CC is crowd control.☺️
waxen rain
😜 said it first
wet pawn
crowd control like snares stuns silences
waxen rain
Thank you @wet pawn for the extra info
pale rover
Most times, a well placed crowd control move is better than a heal. Prevention better than cure.☺️
pale rover
Which is why I personally love Wilders.😅
wary matrix
Omfg I won haha
waxen rain
I think so too
pale rover
80-81 is a big boost for Shemira, if I recall correctly.
wary matrix
My team is so strong
gleaming inlet
What units should I level? Using shemira vadan and lucius
lone onyx
Best line up??
late gyro
I am using Brutus (elite+), Shemira (elite), Lucius (elite), Raine (elite) and Estrilda (elite).. Should I replace one of them for Isabella (elite+) ?
mental blade
wary matrix
!rank
gaunt kelpBOT
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pale rover
@gleaming inlet Lucius, Temporarily Hogan in front; Vedan, Shemira, Fawkes at the back.
static marsh
Alright so you'd rock it like this?
gleaming inlet
@pale roverno healer?
mental blade
All 81 or 100 shemira?
waxen rain
@static marsh I think u should have only 2 tanks
wet pawn
@wary matrix dang I have teh same team as u its nutty huh but I have Khasos replace Nemora
pale rover
@lone onyx Brutus, Lucius front; Fawkes, Raine, Belinda at the back. I'd eventually transition and put Tasi and Arden at the back, personally.
static marsh
I have hogan and lucius @waxen rain
wary matrix
@wet pawn nice so more dos
waxen rain
@static marsh I think u should take out vedan and replace with angelo
pale rover
@gleaming inlet Lucius has one heal, and he shields your team. Dps the other side down before his shield goes down.
wet pawn
Lucius 81 heals through shield too
pale rover
@late gyro Brutus, Lucius front; Raine, Shemira, Belinda. That's only 3-1-1.
pale kettle
is morvus any good? just got two purple morvus
ionic jackal
He's decent but plenty dps outclassed him
random spindle
Morvus has aoe so its good
pale rover
@mental blade Depends, what stage are you on? I concentrate on my frontliners first but some stages, overleveled Shemira would work.
mental blade
6-36
wet pawn
lol my Shemira just 1 v 4'd in pvp
stone rapids
Guys any suggestions for build up a good team?
wet pawn
shiettt
lost dome
Should I replace my 15% faction bonus to replace golus for lyca?
late gyro
@pale rover 3-1-1?
I changed it now to Brutus, Lucis in front and Raine, Isabella, Shemira in back
mental blade
@pale rover
pale rover
@stone rapids Lucius, Skregg front; Raine, Belinda, Saveas back. You can also incorporate Athalia somewhere since it's early game.
@lost dome Too early to use Lyca, she shines later game (and you're also up against Maulers, her weakness). Use Golus first.
stone rapids
Thank you, isn't anyway good athalia after the early game?
pale rover
@late gyro 3-1-1 means Only 3 get the team faction bonus. Your current team has no bonuses.
@stone rapids Athalia is good, but it's so hard to ascend her that it's much better to simply focus on those you can make stronger.
@mental blade You need to level, they're at level 91 and you're currently 42-81.
lost dome
@pale rover should I replace my golus+ with saveas
pale rover
@lost dome Replace Hogan with Golus, move him in front. Then place Saveas. You only need 2 tanks.☺️
wet pawn
lost dome
Saveas is purple
wet pawn
Where do I lvl? Do I go for the Saveas dump
lost dome
Ok
waxen rain
I’m back
pale rover
@wet pawn Since you have mostly Mauler faction, Saveas dump seems better than Shemira dump.
wet pawn
wont dump on Shemira she just needs purple dust right now I have like 160k blue dust
rich ice
Can i ask you guys whats my future in the game if i wont put any money?
wary matrix
Any tips?
waxen rain
@wary matrix ur formation is wrong
Put Savea at the bottom
Shemira top
And nemora middle
zinc crown
@pale rover I could go for the graveborn faction draw tomorrow. Imma see if I can get enough to upgrade silvina. Thanks for the tip!
wary matrix
Alright. I Will try. Frontline like this?
waxen rain
Frontline is ok
pale rover
@wary matrix @waxen rain Is correct.
normal echo
Can I put Silvina in the front or should she stay in the back?
waxen rain
@pale rover thanks . It’s actually the similar set up for me
pale rover
So Saveas immediately goes for Silvina, when she targets Nemora.
wary matrix
Alright. Who should i level to win this match? He is waaay to strong
pale rover
Oops! No Silvina. I'm getting dizzy from looking at the screen.😅
waxen rain
@wary matrix maybe lvl Crutus
wary matrix
Yh i was thinking like. Silvina?😜
waxen rain
Not use for silvina cuz there is no mage
pale rover
@zinc crown Could I see your team again? If you're mostly graveborn, go for graveborn pull so you have a chance to upgrade your current characters.☺️
Why did my name turn to blue, by the way? Does it mean I talked too much that I levelled up?😅
waxen rain
XD
wary matrix
Hahah
waxen rain
I was wondering the same thing
zinc crown
Mine’s a hodgepodge
So i’ve just been mixing them up wheneve rI try for the boss fight again
pale rover
No worries, my team right now is actually a mix as well. Grezhul, Brutus in front and my back is Tasi, Lyca, and Arden.☺️
waxen rain
I think u definitely need lucuis
pale rover
@zinc crown Raine, with Shemira and Belinda would hurt a lot. But my worry is Raine is too soft early on.
Definitely Lucius, yes.
Aim to pull and make graveborn/lightbearer teams because that seems to be your best pulls.☺️
waxen rain
Yes I do think so too
zinc crown
@pale rover yeah, I tried her out but Niru immediately kills her once below 50% hp
pale rover
@zinc crown Ah that means you need cc to counter Niru.☺️
That or he needs to have a Silvina pointed at him.
zinc crown
@pale rover yeah. But with lightbearers for frontliners. It’s a little hardgoing. I hope i get lucky with graveborn pulls tomorrow though. I might be able to upgrade some frontliners
pale rover
Guys, also try out heroes and formations you are interested in when you do the arcane labs. Just so you have a general idea what can work.☺️
@zinc crown I love my Grezhul but he was a pain until 161. Same goes for Estrilda.😅
They get so much better suddenly once they get there.
zinc crown
@pale rover I’m gonna have to be a little more patient till I get there, from the looks of it 😂😅 Thanks for the help, mate!
pale rover
@zinc crown You're welcome, anytime. Hope your team works out!
stone rapids
@pale rover just tried to change my line up like you suggest, is it right?
gritty topaz
Need help with my lineup
pale rover
@stone rapids I hope that works, but I feel you may need to level a bit more. 62k vs 94k is a big power difference.☺️
gritty topaz
wet pawn
omg day 4 login 200 dust the gods have answered my prayers
plain helm
Any suggestions for what i should have up and where
marble thunder
I heard lyca, nemora, arden is the good team com thts why i use it
pale rover
@gritty topaz Mmm tough. Try Lucius, Golus/Skregg front; Saveas, Fawkes, Thane at the back.
@marble thunder It's Lyca, Tasi, and Arden. But Nemora interchanges with them depending on if the team needs one heal to survive the round.
So it's the 4 of them.☺️
wet pawn
how do I deal with Kaz
marble thunder
Was hoping at least one more lyca
gritty topaz
ogi seems to be knocked down immediately
pale rover
@plain helm Lucius, Hogan (temporary) front; Shemira, Silvina, Vedan at the back.
paper yacht
This is my main team, but there is no faction bonuses here. Any recommendations?
plain helm
Thank you ❤
tough hawk
Change Shieldy boi for Lyca
pale rover
@gritty topaz Ogi is a frontliner so he's used in front, but you don't place him against Maulers. Golus will knock him down, and he gets more damage from Maulers being from the Wilder faction.☺️
tough hawk
hard to say without your other heroes being showen tho
gritty topaz
i see
pale rover
@plain helm Welcome🌸 If you can, replace Hogan with a better tank once you outgrow him.
plain helm
Yeah if I can get a Brutus this event it’d be good:) thanks
pale rover
@paper yacht I would actually swap Nemora out for Lyca (dps) or Arden (additional stacking crowd control). If they can't hit you, you don't need to heal.
distant pond
Hi guys i need help i got like 7 vedan but he's garbage in my lineup, any advices ?
paper yacht
@pale rover Okay, but that won't change the faction bonuses though :)
late vessel
Hi, looking for some lineup advice for PVE stuff
Frontline: Brutus, Lucius
Backline: Arden, Lyca, Nemora
I have Shemira as well which i want to fit in, but I'm not sure who to replace with her? Also, any other characters I should look to replace or look out for (I have most of them)?
pale rover
@distant pond Lucius, temporarily Hogan for front; Tasi, Arden, ad Saveas (for dps but no faction bonus) or Ira (for faction bonus). Replace Ira when you can.
@paper yacht I have no idea who your other heroes are.☺️
@late vessel That's a good team already, but Lyca early on is a bit lackluster. That's more of an endgame arrangement.
lilac sandal
Any recommendation for my line up?
late vessel
ahh yeah, before Lyca gives energy hes not that useful right? @pale rover
so just replace him til i unlock that level of that skill
what about faction bonus though? Then I'd have 1 mauler, 1 light, 1 grave, 2 wild
distant pond
@pale rover thanks a lot for this 😃
paper yacht
@pale rover Well, I've got quite many, but nevertheless, even if I don't got a spesific hero, I'd like to try get that one then. Just looking for tips how to build a Brutus/shemira/tasi team, who gets to go along those three
pale rover
@lilac sandal Brutus, Lucius front; Saveas, Khasos, and Belinda or Morvus at the back.
lilac sandal
@pale rover Okay, i will try. Thanks ☺️
dire gull
Hello, wondering if i should use sevas + instead of eaither raine or morvus even though botg of them are elite and helping with synergy
distant pond
@pale rover Faction bonus is really that important ??
late vessel
also, should I focus on some mid game heroes like Saveas for now? Like get him to legendary+ (and then use him for Mythic food for Brutus later)?
my guys are around lv 70 currently
so ill probably be in mid game for a while
pale rover
@late vessel I haven't seen a team with Tasi, Shemira and Brutus yet because it's too fragmented. Brutus with Shemira yes, Brutus with Tasi yes.
late vessel
hmm might be wrong person, i dont think i mentioned Tasi haha
yeah think youre looking for @paper yacht
pale rover
Whoops, sorry! I'm getting confused.😂
@late vessel Your team is the same as my husband's endgame team, except he has Tasi instead of Nemora I believe.☺️
He's at stage 21 already, so I would say it's effective.😅
paper yacht
But anyway, thanks for telling me to switch Nemora for Arden, I finally managed to get past 7-8
:D
late vessel
ah but what about faction bonus then? That doesnt hit the 3 wilders right?
pale rover
If you keep 3 wilders, you will still get the bonus for them. Brutus and Lucius can stand on their own.☺️ @late vessel
Yes, you can definitely use Saveas for now, partnered with Brutus he's even better. He carries very well until around stage 13-15. You can develop your Wilders for later.
late vessel
hmm ok, so dont put in shemira for now?
pale rover
If you don't plan on building around Shemira, I wouldn't put her in for now. But keep her, and upgrade her when you get a pull for her.
@paper yacht You're welcome! Congratulations.
late vessel
ahh gotcha, are there any guides around how to build for Shemira? didnt realize she sorta needed to be built around
stone rapids
Actually I have just summed some new heroes... like hulmus, estrilda and silvina+, Do you think I could change my team again? @pale rover
honest barn
pale rover
@late vessel Well she's better in magic teams, in my opinion. Brutus' physical attack shout boost is wasted on her for one, while Saveas, Lyca would benefit from it.
honest barn
Been stuck for a while
pale rover
I'll brb, husband arrived with dinner.☺️
odd bluff
Food
wet pawn
what i thot u were a boy @pale rover
pale rover
@honest barn Shemira down behind Grezhul, Fawkes up husband said.
main summit
Any better combination fellow pros
pale rover
Girls game too. We can be good at it, too.😅 @wet pawn But yes my husband is a lot better.😒
wet pawn
ive pushed so far with my team tonight should I just give up and go practice piano
random spindle
@main summit whats wrong with ur lineup?
pale rover
@main summit Husband said your team is good.
random spindle
@wet pawn get some sleep
plain helm
Would golus be a good replacement for hogan?
random spindle
@pale rover whos ur husband?
dire gull
Hello, wondering if i should use sevas + instead of eaither raine or morvus even though botg of them are elite and helping with synergy
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/568407794336923658/Screenshot_20190418-130832.png?width=265&height=472
random spindle
@plain helm hogan is better
pale rover
@random spindle His in game name is skeeter.
random spindle
@main summit yes!
pale rover
@plain helm You can use either Golus or Hogan. They would both work, they basically both do the knockdown.☺️
wet pawn
I have no more diamonds now what do I just cry and be stuck at 6-8 forever
random spindle
@wet pawn just sleep
plain helm
I’ll leave it as is then, thanks guys
random spindle
Hahahahaha
main summit
@random spindle , @pale rover tqqq
random spindle
@dire gull mak3 ur sav elite
static marsh
Should I buy Nemora, Shemira or Khasos? Any team suggestions
wet pawn
😳
eternal apex
@dire gull Saveas is incredibly strong early game. Raine is very strong late game, but might not be as useful now. I'd consider swapping out Raine for Saveas a the moment
dire gull
oka, ty
honest barn
@pale rover it worked, thank you
pale yoke
In a few hours imgonna receive the epic plus belinda from the event
wet pawn
oh ye brudder
pale yoke
But who should i swap out, shemira, athalia or isabella?
pale rover
@honest barn You're welcome.☺️
static marsh
@random spindle For who would you swap her in? Currently using Lucius, Hogan, Isabella, Farael and Silvana
eternal apex
@static marsh Shemira is an incredible carry through pretty much the whole game. Especially given you don't have any other Wilders to use with Nemora, I'd go Shemira. I'd run Hogan and Lucius front, Silvina, Shemira, Vedan at the back (in that order top to bottom)
static marsh
Thanks my man!
eternal apex
In fights, you'll generally want to try and stack Hogan up against their more defensive tank and Lucius against their frontline damage dealer @static marsh . Try to keep Vedan on Hogan's side, and Silvina on Lucius' side based on who you're against
static marsh
Awesome! Thanks for the help ❤
late vessel
@eternal apex If I'm currently using Brutus, Lucius, Nemora, Arden, Saveas, would you recommend me to try to fit Shemira in somewhere?
mid game, main team in the 70s
pale rover
I'll rest for now. @eternal apex has a lot of pro advice.☺️
late vessel
or should i swap out anything else in my team? I have most characters
eternal apex
Any time @static marsh . If you're struggling to make Vedan feel like he's viable (ie doing little damage or dieing early), try subbing in Isabella. Generally she's a pretty niche late game character, but given she's elite I'd say it's worth a shot
@late vessel If you run Lucius, Nemora, and Shemira in the same team, your sustain would be pretty incredible. I used that up until the end of stage 9 really, it's an incredibly strong line up. I'd sub out Arden from your current line up, with the amount of damage that Brutus, Shemira and Saveas can put out, the Crowd Control Arden brings can seem pretty irrelevant at times
late vessel
awesome ty! I'll put in Shemira for Arden
I'm not sure if his CC is even that great at the moment anyways
wet pawn
wanna check out my team I wanna know what u say just curious
late vessel
still only entangling a single guy so meh
static marsh
Great, thanks again. You're the man ! @eternal apex
eternal apex
Arden is one that other people rave about, but I never really feel he's as helpful because early game he only entangles one, like you say, and then later game you've got better characters (hopefully at least...)
@wet pawn Chuck a screenshot in, I'll see if there's any suggestions I can make
eternal apex
Oh she gives really good advice, I doubt I'll be able to add much 😃
wet pawn
yeah I think maybe I just need levels who knows
or gear drop
im on 6-8
has yellow border brutus
yikes
im using Khasos
not Nemora
I have Shem Saveas Khasos backline
Lucius Brutus front
eternal apex
Yeah Brutus is a nasty one without a Fawkes to control him.
wet pawn
dang I rolled Fawkes on my main not this one
eternal apex
Do you have a screenshot of the positioning of the enemy team on that stage?
wet pawn
kay hold on
I usually try different positions / monitor the success rate of each with multiple tries before asking questions
eternal apex
Yeah, sometimes weird setups can really work wonders, or you just need rng to clear it
wet pawn
but its a good idea to never put Lucius against Brutus right
brb need to get food out of oven
ashen violet
can i get help for my teamcomp
eternal apex
@ashen violet Sure thing mate, what are you working with at the moment? Screenshots of your roster are super handy
ashen violet
heres all the units that i have
and also my current team comp
i just got belinda and i was thinking of using her
i heard shemira was for 161+ so i havent built her yet
wet pawn
anything about my stage and team? @eternal apex
eternal apex
@wet pawn I'd genuinely consider putting Lucius in the back line. Your biggest problem is going to be Brutus killing everyone with his spinning, so if you have Lucius in the back he might survive longer, allowing you to keep his shield up. I'd try (top to bottom) Khasos Brutus in the front, Lucius, Saveas, Shemira at the back. If that doesnt work, try shifting Khasos and Brutus. Just try to get it so that Lucius has shield up by the time Brutus uses his spinning
queen veldt
eternal apex
You are considerably under levelled so you may just need to AFK, but with some RNG and lucky timing you might make it @wet pawn
pale kettle
I think my top set up works kinda well but if there is something I should change maybe? (I will get Belinda e+ in 2 days)
final star
Need help if possible please? Or do I just need levels?
ashen violet
@eternal apex how about mine?
wet pawn
okay I tried it and I think I just need to afk
lol
thanks tho ill try it again tomorrow when I level them up
same position u gave me and everything
ashen violet
i hate brutus stages with a passion 😂 😂
normal echo
We all do
wet pawn
yup his invincibility tanks so hard
queen veldt
No one gonna help with my line up?
plain helm
Second hand help actually helped me clear stage 5, thank you haha @eternal apex
eternal apex
@ashen violet I'd consider putting Lucius Estrilda front like you have, then Thane up top in back, Belinda or Lyca in the middle, and nemora Bottom. Thane should attack Hogan from behind so you might be able to burn him faster. He's the only threat there
@queen veldt Sorry I'm getting to it, there's lots of people asking rn, just catching up
queen veldt
Sorry
eternal apex
@plain helm Nice 😃 glad I helped!
ashen violet
@eternal apex im not really having trouble with the stage, just asking how i should improve my team composition since im new to the game
pale kettle
I see I just appeared in rush hour, I can ask later
eternal apex
@queen veldt who do you normally run in the frontline next to Lucius?
wet pawn
she got upgraded to Community Supporter when she helped me
patent marsh
Stuck at 5-32. Anything I can do with my current hero's or is it simply afk more.
eternal apex
@final star Your Golus is never going to tank an 85 legendary Brutus at 70 Elite unfortunately. You'll have to level him up considerably before that works
wet pawn
@patent marsh looks like u can tune it but I'm not sure what to say exactly Zoee will know
Angelo prob can be replaced and Hogan too
eternal apex
@pale kettle If you drop Khasos for Fawkes you'll be able to get a higher faction bonus, and he'll lock out their strongest attacker early on. Shemira also works as a front line character in that case, she's pretty tank if you focus on levelling her up
Oh wait you already have a fawkes in there, I completely missed the legendary one lol
pale kettle
:D
eternal apex
Vedan is a better frontliner than Khasos in that lineup, you'll get higher faction synergy, and he goes invincible on his ult
queen veldt
@eternal apex Hogan
pale kettle
I didn't think about putting Shemira into the front line, I thought she's more fragile (has great sustain tho)
patent marsh
Yea @wet pawn I figured some tuning could be done. Gotten to where I am based off posts in reddit
pale kettle
@eternal apex but I heard that Khasos has synergy with Shemira because he gives her a lifeleech
eternal apex
@patent marsh Angelo isn't great early game. I'd play Estrilda instead. Lucius Hogan in front, Shemira top, Estrilda middle, and Saveas bottom at the back. Estrilda works incredibly well with Lucius, she speeds his shields up constantly, and playing her in the middle protects her a bit because she can be fragile
patent marsh
Oh alright that makes sense
eternal apex
@pale kettle That's true, but the real benefits of the lifesteal come in later game
Once you hit 121+ with Shemira I mean
wet pawn
121 or 161
pale kettle
Oh ok, thx so I should replace Khasos for Vedan?
eternal apex
Who am I up to?
oh Peter. Okay, so you run Lucius Hogan frontline, with Saveas fawkes and nemora backline @queen veldt ?
@pale kettle If you get stuck on any current stages using Khasos, it's certainly worth a try subbing Vedan. Honestly it's kinda 6-a-one, half-a-dozen the other, but it might work...
pale kettle
K thx a lot @eternal apex
eternal apex
no worries mate :)
@queen veldt When you lose, does Lucius get a chance to use his shield ability, or are you getting wiped before he uses it?
queen veldt
@eternal apex My lineup atm is Hogan and lucius, Remora, Sav, fawkes
mortal bone
Thoughts on Lucius Hogan belinda nemora shemira?
queen veldt
And it depends on his placement, atm The boss I am fighting kills the fighter in front before he can use his ability.
mystic hound
Hey guys, could you Help me build a team with this Heroes please? First Time I play a game like this
eternal apex
@queen veldt Awesome. I personally prefer Saveas on the sides in the bottom line. If he's in the middle, he tends to take more attacks, and given he doesn't have an AoE he doesn't need to be central. Basically, the longer you keep Saveas alive, the faster he kills people. Are you stuck somewhere in particular or just looking for general advice?
@mortal bone Move Belinda central in the back line, with Nemora behind Lucius. Otherwise, that's a pretty strong team. Do you have a screenshot of the rest of your heroes so I can maybe see if you've got any better options?
queen veldt
eternal apex
@mortal bone Just give me moment, got two in line first 😛 I'll get to you I promise
mortal bone
No worries at all hahaha
eternal apex
@mystic hound You too, please be patient with me lol
@ashen violet Lucius up top, Hogan down the bottom in front. Thane top, Lyca or Belinda middle (both Lyca and Belinda ALWAYS should be in the middle, their AoE doesn't hit the whole screen, so they need to be middle to hit everyone), and then Nemora bottom. If that doesn't work, focus all your levelling for the next little while on Lucius so he can tank out Saveas' hits, and try switching Hogan and Lucius. It doesn't matter if that top front liner dies, as long as it's not until after Lucius has his shield up
ashen violet
@eternal apex wrong pic fam
or wrong ping
mine is the one with estilda and arden on the enemy side
sorry if i come across as douchey 😂
eternal apex
@queen veldt I don't know if you're levelled enough for this idea, but try putting Estrilda in the middle at the back, take out Nemora. She might just speed up Lucius enough to get his shield off. Also try moving Fawkes to top and Saveas bottom. Fawkes should lock Saveas up in his coffin until your Saveas has killed 1 or 2 of your opponents, and by then Lucius should have his shield up
@ashen violet oooops lol lemme re do. I think the advice I got right about your team, just not the enemy 😛 lemme check though
ashen violet
xd
eternal apex
@ashen violet Oh okay yeah I messed that up lol
ashen violet
the bomb from the shot gun guy hits like a truck
weak lark
Im stuck here any tips that can make it a lil easier
queen veldt
@eternal apex Yea its time to stop and do what the game is called, GO AFK!
eternal apex
@ashen violet So you ideally want Lucius in front of the enemy Estrilda. Try putting Thane and your estrilda on the bottom at the back and front respectively, it might let you get to their Morvus before he kills you. Estrilda should also help Lucius get his shield up. Then same deal with Lyca or Belinda middle, and then you can experiment with the other or Nemora being in that last top spot. Ideal RNG is that you manage to get Lucius' shield up just before Morvus bombs you, and then Thane and Estrilda both attack him. You might just need a bunch of tries
@queen veldt Try to get one of your tanks to 81, they should hopefully be able to tank Saveas for a while then. That's all I'd do honestly
eternal apex
@mystic hound Lucius and Brutus front line, Raine top, Belinda middle, and Khasos back. That's probably your best general team right now 😃
calm kelp
Can anyone help me with this level? Im hardstuck here for a very long time
eternal apex
@mortal bone Your team as it is right now is probably the best out of your characters. Ideally you want to get Estrilda in for Hogan, but she's incredibly squishy so you need to get her to at least E+ before she'll be tanky enough to front line
@devout basin @calm kelp just got one more then I'll get to you guys, please be patient 😃
devout basin
ok, ty
calm kelp
Okay
mortal bone
Thanks a bunch!
eternal apex
@weak lark Unfortunately, your only strong tank is the one you need to survive. You're in a tough spot, putting Lucius against Brutus means he probably won't survive long enough to get his shield up, but he's also the only tank strong enough for Brutus. Without another strong tank and someone who can control Saveas as well, you're going to need to AFK for a while... That's a super tough node, with no easy solution unfortunately :/
weak lark
Ahh aight thanks for the advice ^^ @eternal apex
indigo oar
Is there anything i can improve with my lineup? I'm not feeling it, especially silvina, she seems to do next to nothing.
I just got tasi and vedan so I didn't try them out yet.
I'm willing to so some hero resets if i Need to.
eternal apex
@devout basin @calm kelp You're both in exactly the same situation as the guy above you. That's just a ridiculously tough node, and you might need to just wait until you can level past it.
calm kelp
Thanks, i guess then i will log in after 12 hours.
eternal apex
I really don't have the best advice for dealing with nodes with both Saveas and Brutus, as well as a level and ascension gap :/ sorry @calm kelp I was stuck there for ages basically
quasi birch
I need some help figuring out what line up I should be focusing on. Right now I don't have any synergy and I think it's hurting me
eternal apex
@indigo oar Whats your normal lineup there? Who's front lining for you?
devout basin
ok ty @eternal apex
calm kelp
After a few labyrinth runs i can get Shem to e+, hope that will make my life easier.
indigo oar
lucius and khasos
ashen violet
@eternal apex whats the usual levelling tip for characters. tanks then dps then supports etc?
quasi birch
Lucius and Shemira front. The rest of the first 5 in back
eternal apex
@ashen violet It really depends on your roster. My personal advice is always Lucius first priority, Shemira second priority, and Saveas third priority, if you have any of those characters. CC characters are my lowest priority, and I usually would try and get my tanks up first because the longer they survive, the more damage you get out of your DPS
ashen violet
@eternal apex what level does shemira start to be good?
manic sedge
81+
eternal apex
@indigo oar I'd consider going Lucius, Hogan at the front, Saveas top, Belinda middle, Khasos bottom at the back. Then when you can get Estrilda or Brutus or Golus, replace Hogan
manic sedge
If you have good equipment
quasi birch
@eternal apex After Lucius, Shemira and Saveas, who else should I put into my primary team?
eternal apex
@ashen violet I don't know for everyone, but I noticed she was strong at 81, and carrying at 101
lemme see if i can find a screenshot on my phone of shem for me
manic sedge
If you're taking on stages way abobe your level, don't be surprised to ser her struggle.
indigo oar
I'll try it out thanks
manic sedge
All she needs is enough HP to last during her skill.
eternal apex
stone rapids
Should I replace raine for silvina? I'm blocked in this waves...
eternal apex
That's one from a couple of weeks ago, she's a hard carry
manic sedge
Raine is so good nd he works well WITH silvina.
zinc plover
I’m stuck aaagh
eternal apex
@quasi birch I'd go with Estrilda up front and Nemora at the back. No faction bonus, but early in the game, you'll find that you don't even need Estrilda for those other 4 to just carry you through everything between them
manic sedge
@zinc plover which stages is that?
zinc plover
7-3
manic sedge
I don't
zinc plover
Oh damn
eternal apex
@stone rapids I'd consider getting Hogan in for Raine, and putting him in Estrilda's spot
Move Estrilda up behind Lucius. At that point, you're just hoping to stall them long enough for Belinda and Saveas to kill them
prime sigil
I stuck in 8-40,any suggestions for my team?
ashen violet
@eternal apex isnt it because your team has 2 supports in belinda and estrilda and also a tank and a healer?
oh well
that damage's pretty sick tho
eternal apex
@ashen violet It's because they all died before Lucius got his shield up 😛
ashen violet
😂
stone rapids
@eternal apex so estrilda for raine and hogan near Lucius?
eternal apex
@stone rapids
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Saveas
stone rapids
Thank!
eternal apex
You might need more levels on Hogan, because you need him to last until Lucius gets his shield up @stone rapids
@zinc plover Sorry did you still want help or did someone help you?
quasi birch
@eternal apex thank you!
zinc plover
sure help would be nice :3
eternal apex
Okay, so just getting my queue in line, it's @zinc plover , then @prime sigil and then @vapid night
Lol @zinc plover right off the bat, why is your angelo legendary mate 😛
vapid night
ok :))
eternal apex
Ideally, you don't want Lyca and Belinda in the same team. They have pretty similar roles. I'd go with this lineup @zinc plover so you still get faction bonuses, and everyone is in their right spots (for this fight. Normally I'd put raine behind Lucius and Saveas bottom)
Saveas
Lucius
Belinda
Brutus
Raine
final star
@eternal apex yea looking to get sav to e+ then boost Golus
muted wraith
Any tips on lineup?
nova siren
Suggestions? Kinda stuck here. God damn Brutus and Vedan killing me 😦
eternal apex
@prime sigil You've got 3 mages in a fight against Silvina, that's never going to end well for you. You need to get your own tank, because Shemira isn't tanky enough to take the damage coming in from that lineup. I'm not sure if there's much you can do immediately to help given your roster, you probably need to focus on levelling as much as you can. I'd try switching Vedan into the frontline, Shemira centre back, and Tasi bottom though. Tasi flits around so she doesn't need to be central, where Shemira does her best centrally
@vapid night What's the node where you're stuck? can you grab a screenshot please?
rose stream
Finally new channel for this. Kudos to discord officials!
eternal apex
@muted wraith Ideally you don't want both Ferael and Athalia in your team, there's no CC in that lineup. Are you stuck somewhere in particular or just looking for general advice?
muted wraith
@eternal apex general advice!
nova siren
i think shemira is pretty good
eternal apex
@vapid night Okay, so for your current node, you probably want to put Athalia on the bottom. She'll push Saveas towards your front line, so you have more people to attack her. Switch her to bottom, Shemira to middle, and Vedan to the top, then try it. You probably also need more levels on Hogan because Brutus has such high damage. Definitely buy Shemira, you want her as high as possible as fast as possible because she's probably the best carry you can have mid game
eternal apex
@muted wraith So ideally you want to take the same advice as Ysa above. Basically, IF you're using Athalia, it should basically be to push a Saveas or another high damage character straight within reach of your attackers. That's really her main purpose, is that first attack
@muted wraith If there is a Brutus, you ideally want Fawkes in instead because he's basically a hard counter for Brutus
final star
Wish I had Fawkes
vapid night
@eternal apex thanks and which heroes do i need to get for my lineup? and who to change
pale kettle
I have Fawkes on legendary but still can't beat Brutus lvl (6-24)
eternal apex
@nova siren Unfortunately, any level with a Brutus is a hard check basically. I'd personally sub out Arden for Hogan, and try this lineup. Switching athalia will let you move spider lady within reach so you can kill her before she decides to web one of your characters
Ferael
Hogan
Shemira
Lucius
Athalia
iron narwhal
Could I make this lineup better ?
nova siren
hmm thanks for the advice, will try it and see how it goes 😃
pale kettle
Fawkes basically locks Brutus at the beginning of the fight but after that I got wiped while Brutus was alone but with Invincibility. He killed 3 of my remaining heroes in those 4-6 seconds
eternal apex
@frank lichen Uuum you're a bit beyond my rank right now, so not sure how much help I'll be. But I would consider switching your lineup around a bit. Brutus probably isnt as effective because he's only elite. Try maybe subbing in Golus, and switching so Tasi is front line (she evades so it's not bad leaving her front), Saveas bottom, Shemira in for Arden, and Athalia top (so that you can move Isabella within attack range early)
hardy onyx
Try save fawkes ultimate when brutus puts up his shield
eternal apex
@pale kettle What anastasia said, you wanna play it manually for that
amber grail
Any suggestions on this? Stucked here for a while now but at most nuri? is killing me at the end
zinc plover
I#ve got it my Seveas and Raine aren't any good and i really need healing because my Lucius isn't healing much he mostly just stands around.
frank lichen
Thank let try 😍
pale kettle
I play manually but there is still 30k difference so I guess I just have to lvl up more
sterile compass
Stuck on 5-20. No matter how I change my team around, I can’t get it. I’ve had to have re-leveled my guys at least 10 times by now.
abstract sequoia
What are some good team combinations ?
eternal apex
@iron narwhal Your Raine isn't doing much that lineup. I'd swap her out for Estrilda, and go with this. Your main goal here is to let Lucius get his shield up repeatedly, Nemora heal, while Saveas burns single targets and Seirus pushes back with his AOE
Saveas
Lucius
Estrilda
Seirus
Nemora
pale kettle
Is this a good line up for 8-12?
eternal apex
Lemme just get my queue in order again guys, sorry I'm a bit flooded rn, doing my best
iron narwhal
@eternal apex alright thanks for the help 😃 appreciate it a lot
eternal apex
@amber grail @sterile compass @abstract sequoia @pale kettle Okay this is the order I've got rn.
Nyx, I'm gonna need something to go off with your roster if you want help, so please try and grab those or I'll have to skip you, because there's too many combinations to just list every possible team
pale kettle
Thanks
sterile compass
Thank you, here is my roster.
amber grail
@eternal apex thanks. Nemora/arden is dead directly but want to take away attention from tasi so that she can let them sleep while shemira is going crazy
eternal apex
@amber grail You're a bit ahead of me, I'm not sure how useful I'm gonna be. I wouldn't leave Lyca in the front though, generally you want her back and centre. You can't let Niru kill anybody either, so you're gonna be best off putting your strongest guy in front of him (ie Brutus). It might be just a case of needing to level/ascend, but if you haven't, I'd try going something like
Shemira
Brutus
Lyca
Ogi
Tasi
final star
@eternal apex do u think E Golus around level 80 will be able to tank Bru 85
My Golus only R+ atm
pale kettle
My roster
amber grail
@eternal apex thanks, didn't thought about ogi yet. Will give it a try. 👍
eternal apex
@sterile compass Drop Ira, put in Estrilda. Ira adds nothing in that team, and Estrilda/Lucius were designed to be used together. Lineup something like this. It might just be that you need more levels though...
Shemira
Lucius
Estrilda
Hogan
Silvina
molten moat
Is this good?
kindred parrot
sterile compass
Awesome, thank you so much! @eternal apex
kindred parrot
Stuck on 6-24, any suggestions?
pale rover
@eternal apex How you holding up?☺️
eternal apex
@abstract sequoia You're pretty on track with where you're going right now. I personally use Lucius and Estrilda front, Shemira, Belinda and Saveas back. So if you wanted, you could try basically that team with Brutus in the back for Saveas, that might work. You'll end up with 3 "front line" characters essentially. Or you can use Nemora as the last, and just wait for Shemira to slowly kill everyone lol
@pale rover Getting there! Things come in rushes 😛 got I think 3 or 4 currently in the queue
@#6667 @final star @molten moat @kindred parrot Okay guys this is the line right now, just be patient with me please 😃
@pale kettle sorry you're first, discord didnt tag properly
kindred parrot
No problem
pale kettle
@kindred parrot I just got through 6-24 with Fawkes using his ability manually when Brutus was immune, just wait for 6-28 that lvl is insane
molten moat
Just ping me whenever 😗
kindred parrot
@pale kettle haha yeah I'm expecting it to be hard to get to chapter 7
weak lark
Is this a good lineup for pve?
pale rover
@molten moat This seems like a good lineup to me.
kindred parrot
Zoee is helping people @lean sentinel there's just a line lol
eternal apex
Okay @pale kettle Your biggest problem right now is levels. You need Lucius to get that boost at 101. So what you need to do, is reset your 3 elite heroes that are at 100, and boost up 3 elite+ heroes to 101+ instead. This way, you'll have the elites at 101 through the resonating crystal, rather than stuck at 100 until you ascend. Then, sub out Isabella, and sub in Saveas. He's a hard carry where Isabella is kinda niche
pale rover
@weak lark You can work with that. It'll take you to later stages.
weak lark
Cool thanks !
molten moat
@pale rover I just feel like Team 2 will fall off. Hm. Will Khasos in front hold on? 
eternal apex
@final star You're gonna need probably higher levels... Depending on the rest of the team though, he might last long enough for the others to do enough damage that you win even though he died
pale rover
@lean sentinel Grezhul/Estrilda, Lucius front; For back you can choose between Vedan, Isabella, Shemira, and Belinda.
eternal apex
@molten moat I don't know about for you, but I really rely on my opponent underestimating my second and 3rd teams. Ideally you want full faction synergy in this, because the 25% is honestly huge when people are using their 2nd and 3rd teams
pale rover
@molten moat Who else do you have in place of Khasos? Even without the team bonus? Thoran?
eternal apex
I'd seriously consider leaving Shemira in a 2nd team of full Graveborn. Grezhul Thoran front, Isabella, Shemira, Silvina back.
pale rover
@eternal apex Same. But sometimes, they underestimate your team because it isn't on full bonus. And then they get wrecked.😅
eternal apex
@molten moat ^
eternal apex
Doing full lineups is hard, do you reckon you can take the kaz one @pale rover just while I catch on the rest of the queue? 😛
if not, no hassle 😃 just might have to wait a couple of minutes @molten moat
pale rover
Sure, can I get all the characters you have as well? @molten moat
eternal apex
@kindred parrot you're next :)
@weak lark Excellent team, but put Belinda in middle and Nemora up top
@lean sentinel you're after Cloudy if you're still looking for help?
Okay @kindred parrot are you looking for a general team, or a specific node?
quartz ether
I can’t pass 7-28 can any one help me ?
lean sentinel
@eternal apex Yes please
kindred parrot
General team, feel like I'm not really optimized
eternal apex
@quartz ether Yeap, got one I'm helping now, then one more, then you. Please just hold on a bit 😃
weak lark
@eternal apex will do thanks
random spindle
Its a dream team
quartz ether
Yea sure
nimble fossil
I need some help...
random spindle
@nimble fossil front ur hogan
woeful temple
Anyone got an idea for a better lineup? Currently using lucius, hogan front with saveas, khasos, fawkes back
random spindle
@nimble fossil also switch ur vurk with silvi and mirael out belinda in
eternal apex
@kindred parrot You're actually on a pretty good route right now. I'd personally sub out Vedan for Estrilda short term, and go with this team. Saveas on whichever side has the higher damage front liner. Then, long term, sub out Hogan for Thane or Belinda, and move Estrilda into the front line once she's legendary
Nemora/saveas
Lucius
Estrilda
Hogan
Saveas/nemora
random spindle
@latent night make a 3-2 composition
kindred parrot
Ok thanks @eternal apex 😊 you're awesome
latent night
I had the same but Isabella instead of Saveas
it was even worse 😦
I have no fawkes to deal with brutus, damnit
random spindle
@glad oyster brut or shem
latent night
@glad oyster Brutus probably, Shem for 161
random spindle
Mainly go brutus
glad oyster
Alright thanks
languid tapir
glad oyster
Lol I'm stuck at that place to
prime sigil
Shd I spend it for 18000?
eternal apex
@lean sentinel Okay so first off, Angelo is kinda crappy. I'd use him and the level 1 Hogan to ascend your Estrilda to legendary. Then you're looking at running something like this. For the middle spot pick whichever has higher damage basically (to max out the aoe potential), then switch it to Belinda over time. Then bottom spot ideally you want to become either thane, Saveas, or Raine over time
Shemira
Lucius
Belinda/Mirael
Estrilda
Belinda/Mirael
molten moat
@pale rover Hold on. :3
random spindle
@prime sigil yes
molten moat
random spindle
@prime sigil everyone will deffo pick elite shards
molten moat
Thoran is already in another team.
lean sentinel
@eternal apex thank you for the advice, ill try it out
random spindle
@languid tapir so many strength type heroes with no damage at all
I suggest having agi and int type
And having 3-1-1 comp team is not the best choice
pale rover
@molten moat Sec, let me stare at it for a bit.😅
nimble fossil
Now I’m stuck here xD
glad oyster
@eternal apex skip me
random spindle
@nimble fossil i told u to switch vurk to silvi so u'll have potential dmg
nimble fossil
I didn’t see that message
eternal apex
@quartz ether @nimble fossil @latent night @woeful temple You're my next 4 in line
Sorry, it got deleted by the bot @nimble fossil
glass wigeon
How should i change my lineup? I cant even kill one of them despite lvling up & change formation
nimble fossil
@random spindle I’m short of resources
eternal apex
@quartz ether Can you grab me a screenshot of your roster and the level please?
quartz ether
random spindle
@nimble fossil then wait for reset haha
eternal apex
@quartz ether So without knowing the node, your big problem right now is synergy. If you don't have it, you need seriously high damage. Athalia is one of those characters who isn't the most versatile in my opinion. I've had more success since I subbed her out. For a general team, again without knowing the level and enemies you're versing, I'd go for this team below. If you're versing a particular high damage dealer in a rear spot, (ie Saveas or their own Shemira) try subbing in Athalia for Nemora, and making sure that Athalia is directly opposite that character at the start
Saveas
Brutus
Shemira
Lucius
Nemora
clear chasm
Is it tn worth building Factional teams?
eternal apex
@nimble fossil Sub out Vurk for Silvina, then switch Hogan and Lucius. Ideally you're gonna need to level up Hogan and Lucius to 81+. I'd do Lucius first because his shield is the most important thing in your team
@clear chasm Depends how early game you are. Early, good characters are more important. Once you hit the stage of all legendaries in your team, and some mythics on the enemy team, you need at least the first level of faction synergy, ideally a 3/2 or a 4stack
@latent night @woeful temple I've just lost your pictures in the chat, can you repost your roster and the enemies you're stuck on?
latent night
eternal apex
@glass wigeon Two people in front, then I'll get to you, thanks for waiting 😃
clear chasm
I believe i am on 6-28, part of me knows i need lvls, but i feel stuck and unsure how to move forward at the moment
eternal apex
@quartz ether Yeah my advice from before is basically true for that node. Line up Brutus with Ogi, Lucius with Ulric, then from top to bottom, a backline of Shemira, Nemora/Athalia, Saveas
tranquil torrent
How is my lineup?
I have the top 5 heroes as in the crystal thing
So, first 4 and then belinda are my party
eternal apex
@latent night Unfortunately, you just need levels man. There's really nothing you can do vs a Brutus node being that under levelled. You probably want to have Hogan in instead of Silvina too, because your Estrilda isn't even close to being tanky enough. I think your best chance once you've levelled for that node is going to be this, with Lucius avoiding Brutus until you get the chance to use his shield
Shemira
Lucius
Estrilda
Hogan
Saveas
latent night
@eternal apex thanks babe, I guess I'll farm a bit or somthing
eternal apex
@woeful temple I can't see a whole lot you can do except for just hope to get good rng... Ideally, you're gonna want the right faction bonus so you want to get those Lightbearers (Fawkes and Hogan) out for wilders. You could try something like this and hope rng will get you through it with some tries. you won't get any faction bonus unfortunately
Arden
Khasos
Lyca
Lucius
Saveas
spare garnet
woeful temple
Thanks will try @eternal apex
spare garnet
Which one should i switch out for brutus?
eternal apex
Okay my current line is @tranquil torrent first, then @clear chasm , then @old bronze , and @spare garnet . Have I missed anybody else still waiting for help?
pale kettle
Which 5 should I start ?
tranquil torrent
Thank you for your help
fiery pawn
@molten moat help top 5 starting 5 btw
pale kettle
Penia
molten moat
@fiery pawn you're actually good.
shy trout
Hello I'm stuck here can u help me set team ?
timid lintel
Any recommended changes to my lineup?
eternal apex
@tranquil torrent So I would personally run a different 5. Isabella is very niche and late game, so I'd sub her out. Tasi evades so she actually works fine in the front line
Lyca
Lucius
Belinda
Tasi
Arden (get him on crystal instead of Ankira)
@pale kettle Just hang on a bit, there are other people who asked first, I'm gettting there slowly, please be patient.
pale rover
@spare garnet Switch Golus out for Brutus. You might need more team synergy eventually, though.
tranquil torrent
Does it matter if someone is on crystal and not? Or is it all the same?
eternal apex
@clear chasm I'd go with something like this
Saveas
Brutus
Belinda
Lucius
Ratman
old bronze
My arena rank is tanking with my guys unequipt rn lol i need halp 😱
tired oriole
Hi if anyone have any suggestions, just ping me thx
clear chasm
So no healer?
tired oriole
I'm new and idk which hero to use
clear chasm
@eternal apex
eternal apex
@tranquil torrent Nope, it's exactly the same. Just remember you can level someone past their max level if you use the crystal though, so always have your highest ascension characters there
@clear chasm Lucius is a healer
pale rover
@pale kettle Lucius, Ogi for front; Estrilda/Morvus, Nemora, Arden for back.
tranquil torrent
Got it. Thanks for the help!
I am gonna need to get some proper equipment for arden then and try him out
eternal apex
@old bronze I'd personally consider something totally different. You're actually close to getting a pretty good synergy team going, and I'd try something like this. Raine resets energy when someone kills someone with their ult, which hugely helps both Mirael (or Belinda when you get her) and Brutus
Estrilda
Lucius
Mirael
Brutus
Raine.
pale rover
@tired oriole Lucius, Hogan front; Khasos, Saveas, Numisu/Morvus back, maybe for bonus.
tired oriole
Oo thx I'll try that
eternal apex
@spare garnet I'd Personally switch out Isabella. Go for this team
Saveas
Golus
Brutus
Lucius
Nemora
exotic jungle
@old bronze usually, carry>tank>support
tawdry umbra
rly ? you would put aside arden with his CC to get an other DD ?
eternal apex
@old bronze Wait for your slots to be off cooldown, and then level your highest ascension characters that you're using or have room for
tawdry umbra
if you have it ?
pale kettle
In stuck , what should I do to improve?
I'm stuck* 6-12
Hi. I play now since 3 Days and my Main Team, are my First 5.I like it, but consider to change Lucius with maybe Estrilda/Vedan? Or should i stay?
eternal apex
@pale kettle @fiery pawn @shy trout @timid lintel This is my current line, have any of you been helped yet?
tawdry umbra
@pale kettle Get team lvl 81
white burrow
Hi guys, can you help me with my team? Thank you
pale kettle
@tawdry umbra okay what should I begin with?
tawdry umbra
brutus
pale kettle
Then Shem?
eternal apex
@pale kettle Start like this. You'll need to do some shuffling on your levelling and the crystals, but this is probably your current best full team
Estrilda
Lucius
Belinda
Hogan
Raine
pale rover
@white burrow Good team. Brutus and Lucius in front, Saveas, Raine, Belinda back. You can sub in Arden whenever you need crowd control, but keep in mind you'll lose the team faction bonus when you do.
neat smelt
Anyone using aquaman?
eternal apex
@fiery pawn Your current top 5 team is probably this:
Silvina
Lucius
Estrilda
Hogan
Saveas
pale rover
@neat smelt Seirus is great.
@gloomy terrace He's not a bot, but he has great advice.☺️
neat smelt
@pale rover really? I'm looking for him to join my team but not too sure if he is good for long term
white burrow
I see. I'll try that team @pale rover . Currently using Lucius Brutus infront then Saveas, Numisu and Arden at the back. Will try your recommendation. Thank you!
sharp prawn
I'm currently using Lucius (61), Hogan (61)/ Saveus (80), Mirael (61), Fawkes (61) getting the 4 lightbringers bonus. I cans get either nemora or shemira from the store. Any advice?
mental anvil
Is this ascension worth the sacrifice?
long star
Look for some advice for my lineup 😁
eternal apex
@shy trout You're gonna need more levels unfortunately. Your best bet is probably going to be something like this though, with possibly subbing in Numisu or Vurk for Tasi or Athalia
Athalia
Brutus
Saveas
Khasos
Tasi
@mental anvil Yes
visual rock
Any pointers
eternal apex
@sharp prawn Shemira in for mirael, Shemira is the best unit mid game
light elm
@visual rock saveas for kaz and hogan for ogi
Overlevel saveas
@visual rock build arden too use him at level 81 when you get stuck
eternal apex
@timid lintel @tired oriole @pale kettle @pale kettle Okay this is my line right now. Please be patient everyone, we're doing the best we can 😃
sharp prawn
@eternal apex. Thanks
visual rock
You mean swap saveas for kaz and higan for ogi?
exotic jungle
@eternal apex you are so professional lol, it's amazing
light elm
@visual rock yea
visual rock
Ok
exotic jungle
You do this better than some people do their jobs
exotic jungle
@visual rock tap on the gear, tap. Remove
eternal apex
@timid lintel Switch Hogan and Lucius, get Shemira in for Nemora, then level up until you get it. That's an absolutely shit node unfortunately, had like 8 people ask about it in the last 2 hours
visual rock
Ty
pale rover
@gloomy terrace At your stage, Estrilda is still squishy. So is Lyca. I'd go with Lucius, Hogan front; Fawkes, Belinda and Raine at the back if you want to go full lightbearer.
@Anioviel.#1600 Numisu is not that great without a full or 4-1 mauler team. Try to go for a bonus first, if possible, because those buffs could mean the difference between winning and losing.☺️
light elm
@long star you already have the best characters leveled mix and match. Nothing to do but afk if you can't clear I think
pale rover
@exotic jungle I agree. I'm impressed, there's even a commentary along with the positioning. @eternal apex
eternal apex
@exotic jungle Thanks lol, if I don't help, this channel just gets filled with lost people looking for help.
I will need to take a break soon though everyone, I've been doing this for probably 2 hours now , maybe more
long star
@light elm Aye nice, thanks for the input lol
exotic jungle
@pale rover @eternal apex cheers, keep up the amazing work both of you.
light elm
@mental anvil at this level hogan is pretty useful. If you have other tanks to use you can do it
eternal apex
@tired oriole Just adding onto what aero said, build Saveas as much as you can as fast as you can. He'll carry you through most of the early and mid game
pale rover
@exotic jungle Same to you, I see you've tirelessly helped so many people earlier. Also, great advice.☺️ Cheers!
long star
@light elm another question. Should I go all out lightbearers or would another mix be best?
latent night
I like lightbearers + grave
light elm
Usually a mix is better
eternal apex
@pale kettle You just need levels. That's a really solid team. Later, you can consider subbing out Fawkes for another Mauler for faction bonus, but for now, that should work well until you get some others
latent night
3 - 2 composition
eternal apex
@pale kettle You're doing pretty well already. Run Lucius and Tasi in front, Shemira, Nemora and Arden in the back
mental anvil
@light elm I've got Lucius as my main tank
pale kettle
Big THX :)
light elm
Easier that way
eternal apex
@gloomy terrace @long star @visual rock This is my line right now, anybody else waiting for help?
pale rover
I prefer lb with grave and maulers with wilders. Sort of covering their weaknesses.😅
eternal apex
@pale rover It's she btw, not he, but thankyou for saying I give good advice 😛
ocean dirge
mental anvil
@light elm
ocean dirge
Blocked at 7-28 any suggestion?
pale rover
@eternal apex Ah I'm so happy you're female too!!❤️
gloomy terrace
can I be a woman as well
foggy mountain
Looking for some lineup advice for both pve and pvp.
light elm
@mental anvil I wouldn't ascend estrilda right away
eternal apex
@gloomy terrace Lucius Hogan in the front, Silvina behind Hogan, Raine behind Lucius, and Estrilda in the middle at the back is what I'd use
bold pumice
Is my current lineup still my best set up? (Top 5) I just recently got brutus and I know hes real strong, and also wondering if it's worth building up a saveas?
gloomy terrace
well no belinda then?
visual rock
im waiting on drops for my vedan
gloomy terrace
supposedly I should get another belinda soon making it easy to legendary her which is why i was utilizing her til now
mental anvil
@light elm alright, I'll hold off. Thank you!
eternal apex
@gloomy terrace I'd definitely recommend putting Belinda in for Silvina, but you've got Silvina leg already, so I assumed you'd like her in
visual rock
also i cant get any gorram essence to level heroes
gloomy terrace
ok
yeah shes carrying rn but i guess oncei have someone legendary my carry can swithc =p
eternal apex
@gloomy terrace If you run Belinda, put her middle, Raine and Estrilda on the sides. Put Estrilda on Lucius' side
light elm
@bold pumice it's very worth building saveas
gloomy terrace
hogan just seems to die so fast now at my level
visual rock
whats he good for?
gloomy terrace
but the lineup u suggested just now
light elm
@bold pumice arden is also very strong
gloomy terrace
definitely got me closer to beating this stage than ever before
bold pumice
@light elm who would I be subbing out to get them in though?
eternal apex
@long star I'd go with this team right now (take advantage of the 25% bonuses). Thane will jump forward and Hogan will knock the front liner back to him, so Thane will probably die but he'll do huge damage to 3 people first
Fawkes
Lucius
Estrilda
Hogan
Thane
visual rock
so basically i should focus on lucius arden saveas raine hoagan?
light elm
@bold pumice shemira and Fawkes most likely
eternal apex
@visual rock Are you getting help, or do you want me to take a look to?