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Sounds good
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Try running khasos back as dmg too π
3+2 5+0 or 4+1 which is better?
3+2 or 3-1-1
I love khasos π
I usually run 3-1-1 or 3-2 in arena
what the shit
Sorry bad example image
thats some strong lineup
how long have u played for supreme leadmod
@left otter with the humble brags and subtle flexes xD
Advice pls.
I'm guessing you aren't f2p @left otter ?
@quaint light use the temple of ascension
I want a good graveborn tank, who is good? I was thinking about Thoran
@cyan ether 4 mos I guess
@cyan ether always remember, when things don't work out... Just go AFK
@pale kettle I don't think graveborn tanks are good until a lot higher level but that's just me. If you wanna go graveborn go 3-2 or 3-1-1 with Lucius and another frontline
@jagged blade not flexing xD Just showing what they can do and what to expect
Yeah I was just teasing :p
@nimble gull i dont why i found this advice so funny but thanks hahahaha
Oh okΓ©, already use lucius
@hardy moat switch Hogan or Seirus to a dps
To summon afk and level up
See even lead mod says AFK is the point of the game
Believe in AFK it will only do u good
Is grezhul good?
Yeah you're 100% right but there are still little adjustments that can be made here and there
Unless if u AFK for more than 12 hours then you deserve it
but i kinda dont like it thay only you can do to progress is afk
@pale kettle eh
@cyan etherbut... That's the core mechanic of the game...
@cyan ether its called afk arena :p
I use Grez. He needs to be at a high enough level, I prefer him to Thoran. @pale kettle
i used to play similar afk game but that game u could actually play and progress along with afk
but i quit cause it went full p2w, like messed up p2w level hahahah
My heroes are like 60-70 now
so yeh loving this game so far
@cyan ether just summon daily and you'll eventually get heroes meta enough to carry you on shoulder
Adjustment is made if you face these kind of enemies
But for beginners
Just level up your heroes
And you will be unstuck
^
U won't have any problem until at least chap13
unintentional flexing
Thats the only way ill pass this
damn that squad
@left otter That's the same stage my husband is stuck in. π
@nimble gull true
Chap13 is where sylvinias start harrassing your mages
Basically you just have to wait and readjust your team. Sometimes putting the same team players in a better position and manually timing the abilities will make you able to progress. If not, afk.
Or u can smash that "battle" button for like 200 times
And for some reason you can win
Then back to another 400 buttons
@nimble gull thats what i do π
NGL, I do that.π
That's the fun of the game
Waste time knowing you can't do it but you still managed to do it
πΌ
having 2 champs in different faction doesnt mean that you losing the bonus and im talking about the 3-1-1 formation
@pale rover cool this stage sucks tbh
Is that 5-20?
Yes
@left otter niru haunted me since the first day I played
That brutus and saveas idk what to do
Once one of my teammate dies I'm like ok time to restart
Itβs not even close
@scarlet kraken try using silv instead of khasos
@left otter He says he only truly appreciated the terror of Ulmus after this stage.π
And you need level too
@pale rover what tower he is?
Have he faced 4 ulmus and nemora?
Thats the stage i feared ulmus haha
@scarlet kraken You will need to AFK a bit. Maybe levelling might help. Brutus with Saveas at the back hurts a ton.
@left otter He's at.. 251? I haven't gotten that far so I've no idea. Lol
Not gonna lie that silv switch up made it closed
Closer
Iβll afk a bit thanks
what lineup should i use with the heros i have?
@pale kettle focus on that lineup and up belinda. If you get more copies try upping saveas then switch saveas to lyca for dmg.
Lucius, Sav, Lyca, Nemora, Belinda?
Sav or Lyca can be in front
@pale kettle I'd do Lucius and Hogan/Estrilda for front, Belinda, Lyca, Arden for back.
That's fine, you can get more of him. It'll still depend on your team composition. Mine is Mauler Wilder.
Mine prob gonna be graveborn
Who should i have in my lineup?
All the factions are useful, which is what I like. You just have to teambuild smartly.
I think I just throw faction bonus out the window now. Aiming for Brutus, Lucius, Shemira, Tasi, Lyca, but idk what to use for right now. π€
would you use Arden over Tasi and Nemora?
Pre 160? Yes
@arctic cradle Lucius, Seirus front, Lyca, Athalia and Arden at the back.
@pale kettle you can play without faction bonus
My problem is that i almost have the 100 pulls and i can choose a hero and i want a tank instead of Ogi
Ty @pale rover
Dont know who 
Yeah π
But its easy to ascend her since she is in lab
I ACTUALLY KILLED THE BRUTUS
I love Lyca with Lucius and Shem. She helps Tasi a lot too
Silv is op
@pale kettle My current's Lucius, Brutus, Tasi, Arden and Lyca. It does well, I think!
Well done now the others
Should I use arden over fawkes?
I'm at 6-12 :~:
Stuck on this chap
Been playing for 3 days and dunno any tactics haha
Same
@willow basin try to over power save instead of leveling everyone
You mean focus on 5?
He means focus on Saveas and make him higher in level.
Saveas can carry teams early on if you overlevel him.
Quick question. What do you guys think of my team.
Thane, Raine, Fawkes, Lucius and Belinda?
You guys think that's a good combo?
This game is good because it doesn't give you the teams. Just because they're the same faction doesn't mean they're a good team. I like the cross faction teambuilding that the game encourages
@pale kettle what level are You?
@pale kettle Defintley Make Sav the highest level everytime
@pale rover and then a nemora appears and charm saveas
@pale kettle thats a good lineup
O I never thought of that okay ty
@left otter not if he's level 20 or smth haha
@nimble gull Lmao that's brutal!
@pale kettle too risky to have only 1 tank
O dang that's a lot of damage
@pale rover thats basically my guild raid for the past few weeks... saveas killing everyone whenever charmed
Meh, I don't like Thane and Fawkes too much early game
@jagged blade If he has all of those at level 20.. what luck.π
@jagged blade I'm at 6-28
Is sav still good at higher levels?
@willow basin chapter 13 and above hes pretty much useless..
Haha yeah @pale rover but you get my point right?
My saveas manages to fight till 14-28
And lvl 35 . I just really like the lightbearer faction
Idk @pale kettle I think for now you should maybe use Silvina and Saveas instead if you have them ascended
Then I fed him to brutus
He'll carry you far-ish but after that he's pretty much fodder. Mine was useful until I got to 15.π
Definitely use that comp at high level tho it'll wreck
@left otter not saveas as solo carry right? mine only did up to 13 and hes getting melted.. probably tanks cant help as well
I was also thinking of using a full Wilder team since they have the best healers
@nimble gull solo carry π
@jagged blade If it's too early, they won't have all the magical skills unlocked. Yes.βΊοΈ
But I'm using full mauler leg+
Oo alright then I don't think I'll ever get to chapter 13 anyway heh
Brutus nimusu vurk save khasos
But for now I'm gonna work on my lightbearers
@left otter ah then that explains it.. i dont have any useful brawlers other than brutus and save
@pale kettle don't restrict yourself too much to one faction! Mix it up, it's better to have variety
Brutus can still work. He is a tough dude π
Outside of Wrizz I've never found an active use for Numisu. I only used him when the game sound was on so I could laugh at his laugh.π
@jagged blade I'll definitely do that. Thanks for the advice
my brutus can only tank up to 8 seconds right now xD
No problem dude :)
he's only L at chapter 14...
Is arden good in pvp tho
@willow basin he is
@jagged blade true XD
Super good
Is Athalia worth it?? I got her yesterday
@willow basin yep.. 3 enemies disabled for few seconds is a very good CC
Oh rn I put fawkes in
I hear people saying she is the best. But I've used her and she doesn't seem all that good
rank does make alot of difference xD
and some heroes' skills are only useful upon reaching certain level
@pale kettle most rare units need a high level to unlock their really amazing skills
yes my dear we're talking about u shemira
Stick at the game and she'll prove how good she is ;)
And Raine and Thane and Fawkes :p
Shld I still be using her at level 70+?
Omo
He looks awesome
Pay $60 to get
Lets stick with lineup help π β
Oh sorry :)
Who should I be using ?
Raine worth it?
Raine worth it in early game campaign and late game pvp
@eternal zenith brutus lucius saveas nemora belinda
too high xd
@nimble gull ok I was using them anyway lmao
Raine is good with shem belinda or silv π
i ve put het in a lightbearers formations but i felt like she is not that strong
@eternal zenith Brutus, Lucius for front and Saveas, Belinda, Arden/Nemora/Fawkes depending on if you want cc, team bonus, or heal.
@pale kettle change khasos with lucius maybe? and change arden to isa/vurk
wait no keep khasos at arden's place
@pale kettle power up save β π or if you have a nemora use her and charm enemy arden
hey, my question gets flooded every time so I ask directrly, sorry :) I'm getting rekt with my lineup both in tower and campaign, dying too fast.. who should I start overlvling next and how far? also I'd like u to keep in mind the easter event. Not sure if my guild can kill soren, so I want to maximise my dmg output for that. thsnks a lot!
don't have nemora π¦
@pale kettle then lvl up sav β π
@lime vapor shem would be the best since your sav is still elite.
Also, since I'm struggling a bit with the last few Mauler levels, should I give Belinda/Vurk a shot?
@pseudo sinew looks good β π
@pseudo sinew you can run belinda brutus lucius saveas and nimusu
Should I level up Saveas more? Feels a bit underwhelming for me in his current state
Athalia gets more value for me, even at same levels/gear.
I'll try to E+ him but the game isn't cooperating
Full Maulers did the trick π
@pseudo sinew but as you progress she will ve useless cause she is only elite
Yeah I'm aware of that
You need like 16 copies of her to ascend.
Right now she seems stronger than my Saveas though. Only situation in which he outdpses her is if their team literally ignores him.
Yeah, I know. Gonna focus on Brutus/Saveas.
If you make save e+ and better gear he will do more than e athalia
Gotcha. Will work on that.
But if athalia works for you then just level her
A good team comp?
@pale kettle use fawkes instead of ira
Unlocking that confine skill is op
5v4
For 7 sec
Anyone stuck on 6-36
any idea ? :S
@pale kettle I already said based on your heroes just use fawkes instead of ira
@pale kettle Saveas behind Brutus.
So first line but with fawkes instead of ira. Got it.
@pale kettle afk and level or try to use silv instead of saveas and use golus in front.
okay thanks everyone, ill try a few more times xD
@pale kettle Maybe you can try and put Lucius up top, Brutus and Saveas below and break through the weaker area.
If not, Space's suggestion.
okay, thanks x)
@livid pier Brutus/Estrilda, Lucius for front and Shemira, Fawkes, Vedan at the back, maybe. Or Lyca and Nemora instead of Shem/Ved.
I cant tank the top one
Goin to sleep
Good night @left otter , thanks for the help
Goodnight and thanks for the people who are answering the questions β π
Stuck 6:28
@left otter good night space!
@cursive basalt you can consider removing shemira.. shes not useful until atleast 100
Which 5 do I focus as a team out of these in early game
@hard gorge lucius grezhul saveas ferael niru
@ebon locust for now... lucius ogi raine belinda mirael i guess xD
@cursive basalt you can try thane
Donβt use Vedan?
i was using than quite abit at lower levels π
@ebon locust vedan isnt useful until u get him to elite (purple)
I see
Thanks
Probably gonna stick to these , tried rolling for the sheep or lion one but they donβt appear π
How can I beat this
I cant seem to burst down the enemy team enough.. lucius shields too often and the heals are ridiculous
@thin pike switch lucius with ferael.. dont put ferael up for tank xD
sylvinia would definitely rekt tasi since you're pretty underleveled
so all i can say is afk for a little more before u try again
Alright, thanks for the help
@thin pike no problem. remember lucius is a tank xD
I just move heroes around till something works lol
@thin pike is that a labirinth?
Yeah
@thin pike
Who's your dps?
Uhh- I dont know?
Who deals most dmg in your team?
Kaz
for the heroes in labryinth should I get a new hero or a 2nd copy of shemira to make her e+?
Kaz is a tank not a dps. You'll need a dps in your team to advance.
I dont have good dps units
@thin pike have u tried put nemora instead of lucius, that way u can gain advantage of 3+2 heroes formation
i think your problem is you leveled up too many heroes
Oh that's the lab not all your heroes.
π₯
These are my actual heroes
hoayo
Ok
I'm sorry I'm a noob
@thin pike do you level up lv 60 saveas by yourself? if yes, maybe u should reset it and give the resource to other hero
Level up ferael to the max.
Reset Hogan and Saveas
Ferael shall be your temporary dps until you can find someone else
People told me to keep Hogan cause he was good.. I'm so confused with this game
You can level Hogan on the crystal if you still want to use him
But your team currently don't have dmg
Hogan is a tank and cc
Should I keep this account or reroll?
Stuck 4-36
You don't want your team to consistent of all tanks and supports.
That's not confusing at all
Reroll until you get Tasi Brutus or shemira @sly orchid
check #550491326479728650 @thin pike
π
@pale kettle
Just keep afk and level up your to 5 heroes.
Replace mirael with hogan
@pale kettle have u tried making 61 estrilda and make the rest have the same level
if you think u have the resource, it will be even better if u can make 61 estrilda 61 lucius and the rest is lv 41
Isn't there a rule saying you need lv 30
Hard stuck at 6-36 Lucius just gets destroyed on the front line in the first 5 seconds.
I beat it, thanks for the help ^^
@terse sandal reset golus and put in Ogi so you have 3 Wilders Shemira Lucius
who do I replace? Top row is my current lineup
@prisma plaza what are the steps to reroll? Like do i need to reach a certain level or is rerolling advisable?
Tried with Ogi as well but wilder's against maulers he is dropped even faster
Reroll = delete your game and reinstall (iOS)
Or clear data (Android) and restart game until you get your desired hero @spare garnet
Does your Nemora get heal off in time? @terse sandal
@terse sandal You probably need to afk and level them all up a bit. Ideally you're gonna need to ascend Lucius as well, so you can get him over 100
@terse sandal try adding 1 agi hero on backline
@stark mantle ira to hogan? hogan top tank, estrilda bottom tank, and use shemira at bottom back , so they focus killing from bottom to top
If not, I'd replace her. Belinda's pretty good vs Maulers
And desired heroes are Brutus, Tasi and shemira?
@stark mantle ira <> arden
@stark mantle in my opinion, u lack tank, lucius shield and heal should go out, so better he is at behind if it's low level
Hey a friend of mine isn't in the discord but wants some line up help. Any ideas? He was debating on vurk, Arden, and seirus
Tell him to experiment? There's the crystal and theres a reset for 20 diamonds?
@terse sandal Try hiding Lucius on the Brutus side, it looks like Saveas is doing all the damage
@bleak robin arden is not that great with that low level
arden need 81 i think to be able entagled 2 enemies
He uses the crystals he's just curius
Okay, so look into Arden after boosting levels ?
@bleak robin as for your lineup , shem belinda can attack, lucius can help tank but he is not that great as tanking at early game , so i would recomend get that seirus
Give his account information and we'll test for him π π
Hold I can only go so fast
Haha
@bleak robin seirus hogan can tank, belinda shem attack while lucius helping heal and tank , that's my idea but try experiment as well
@terse sandal I would consider levelling into your own Saveas and Belinda, and running Brutus (top) Lucius (bottom) in the front, with Belinda (top) Shemira (mid) and Saveas (bottom) on the back line
(brutus lucius - arden - saveas angelo) current line up, want replace angelo with nemora with lab tokens (have 38k right now). Question: should i buy Shermira from lab instead. Also, from easter egg should i go for dupe brutus or tasi ?
@limber dagger bruuutuuuss ehuaehueu
too bad then.
Tell him to ditch the trash rat for aquaman
Should I have skreg or thane in ,my team
@silent terrace so go for brutus in easter egg event for promotion , and not get CC from tasi ?
Do we have guides here at discord?
@eternal apex I dont have brutus
Skreg.
Thane already lost his arm
Skreg has both arm AND a pet.
@limber dagger Middle [ up to 160 ] and Late game [ 160++], u are gonna love brutus, so getting a lot of brutus from now is never wrong
Ok
@terse sandal Sorry I meant Golus lol otherwise the same
@wary wadi #550491326479728650
I'll give it a shot
Clearly you can see 2 people > 1 disabled person .
Thanks @olive thorn
I'm sorry if it was a stupid question
Well what answer do you expect they both have different role lol
Skerg is a tank Thane is a dmg
Ye sorry
skerg
Who's better than who?
And what team you gonna put them in?
@silent terrace sounds good, i like him already. I'm level 55 average. Should I get nemora or shemeria for lab / story progression ? right i'm stuck at 4-16 due to Silvina taking out my backline every time
So many missing information
Should I show my team for who I should change it with
@terse sandal You may just need more time to AFK and to ascend your heroes. But don't leave Lucius in front of Saveas, he'll just chew him up. You ideally want a dummy tank on that side just to absord the attacks for a little bit until Lucius gets his shield up
@limber dagger as for not getting CC, as you progress you will find another CC hero anyway
don't waste events such as this, u can easily get brutus elite+ , i would say it's better for your progression later since rank of heroes determine what max level they can achieve
Is estrilda a good dummy thick tank for that or nah
Help stuck on 6-28
Okay I also have seirus.
She's more like cheerleader in shiny armor
Seirus better or nah
Wait I think I should change it with a elite hogan right
@limber dagger nemora and shemira both also fine, u made the choice, if u think u have a lot of good graveborn , get shem, or else nem for wilders
Seirus I'd say on bar with Estrilda
But I'm straight so I'm biased towards Estrilda
Damn but I'm straight I like dudes so hm
the idea is, once you get elite+ nem or elite+ shem, you should immediately make legend elite/nem by using other heroes as fodder
I do have golus and ogi too
Then depends on your team aura
But not sure how good that's for uhhh 5-20
Ik I should keep lucius right
I'm working graveborn dps and maybe LB front
But I could switch to seirus / ogi but I lose luci who is my good tank for now
@opaque plume
Replace the trash rat for the dragon rat
@opaque plume i like those accidentally click level up on those heroes reaching lv 2 xD
@silent terrace
I do lv heroes to 2 for daily quest
The seven daily login day seven one Belinda+ elite is good right
π
@silent terrace got them to lvl 2 so they would be on top lol
Looks like someone also play IH
@prisma plaza you mean vurk for skreg?
Ok sorry I'm still new here
@fading stratus yes bud, but after talking to others, they told me Lightbearer is kinda shit race for late game Lv 160++, so i kinda regret investing too much on Lightbearer hero
@prisma plaza skreg is the dragon one
Vulk also does a good damage usually
@pale kettle
Nope vedan isnt a good first hero
Reroll until you get Brutus Shemira or Tasi
Will try swapping them
@silent terracethanks but lucius is great am I right
@pale kettle if you could get shemira or brutus on elite heroes [ the purple frame ] that is even better
if you don't mind reroll , better reroll the game [ start from lv 1 again ]
@opaque plume if vurk serves you then you don't have to change anything just keep leveling up
I see thanks everyone
@fading stratus here https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
i would say, yes it's great, but don't make the same mistake as i did
i used to reroll every scroll i have on lightbearer on lightbearer day because i got baited by those lucius , hogan and estrilda package lul
Thanks hey uh is it @silent terrace if I could dm for some stuff I need help with
sure buddy
Hey guys is this a good lineup for what I have?
@vagrant hedge i am still on middle game and currently still using lightbearer as i got baited into it
but currently my main tank is brutus and my main damage is saveas, so my lightbearer is used for buff xD
@jagged moon only level up 5 heroes buddy
when you unlock building called Resonating Crystal, then it will help you leveling all other heroes
but don't level up more than 5 heroes
Reset the lvl 20βs that you arenβt using and level your top heros
What GFL said^
yeah i got that part
@jagged moon
another general idea of mine
if you have some heroes that can solo carry [ you learn this through experiment by keep resetting ]
i personally like those solo carry hero to be one above of other level
for example, 1 is 61 while other 4 is 41, same idea can be used on 1 is 81 other is 61 etc
yeah i got that too
i try to buil daround one hero
usually with a tank and 3supports
with cc or buffs and debuffs
currently what is really onto my mind is ghrezul
Who to remove from team for Nemora? Luciel Brutus Belinda Shemira or Tasi.
My dps gonna dieee but ok
unless she is the carry
then get rid of one of your supports
nemora is more of a support carry
My carry is Luciel rn
Yeah
I pulled dupe on him and he prob has my best gear rn
Also this game is mean af. Gave me an Elite staff with Celestial faction buff.
@jagged moon current box
keep belinda
I could drop Tasi for Nemora? Situationally
Bc tasi seems useful for sleep and... Teleporting herself into the enemy side to die quickly
yes
shemira is amust have i think
her Aoe is op
and her life steal is neat
nemora does what tasi does but better
since you have luciel as carry with brutus focus on buffing them
I'll experiment and build around Tasi for when debuff suits, Nemora if I'm getting rekt. Maybe even drop Belinda if need more support over utility π€
@tepid bison buddy ,
i think lucius high lv and shemira high lv is better while the other is lv 61
shemira can tank too anyway if you have 2 or 3 healer at behind
since u can either have lucius / tasi / nemora as your healer at behind
This is what I'm working with, any tips or suggestions?
shemira is amazing actually both Aoe and tankiness with alot of cc
I'll wiggle Belinda and Tasi around
if u can still have other at 60 and shemira 81 with brutus 81 will be even better
Any suggestions what can I change cuz Im stucked
belinda probably just gonna serve as off dps
81 is really differs alot than 80
Belinda is a must have with luci
I'll focus on Shemira at 81
@fringe pawn level your Lucius to 81 to get heal on shield asap :+1:
Luciel
That guy
@fringe pawn that rat is really bad, use saveas , saveas is best DPS at those stage, get lv 61 saveas and shemira and kill everything
also keep in mind the Agi / Force / Int aspect of the comp
What about nemara ?
@fringe pawn in my opinion, lucius is kinda a support at those stage, maybe at 141 lucius can be considered tank, but for your stage, it's still kinda support
he will die too fast before he can utilize most of his shield and heal, so u already have a support
Off to experiment. Ty @jagged moon and @silent terrace for the help
Namera + Saveas is broken af
np
right now i will max ghrezul
ill put around a team for him
i mean think about it
undead summons?
@silent terrace thank u m8 but for the combo saveas and nemara should I use it ?
@pale kettle Saveas and Brutus are doing badly for me on stage 7-x, the enemies have bonus against maulers
Hello guys, any advices about my current line up ? I donβt have a lot of synergy. But I am not sure being able to build something stronger than that.
@fringe pawn yes of course
that rat, vurk? change that, reset it and give the level to saveas
if you can have 61 saveas instead of 61 silvi is better in my opinion
yeah the rat is useless
Oh shit I dont realy have anything else for the frontline tho...
@silent terrace okey what about this : Changing kaz for nemara changing vurk for saveas and thats
@pale kettle you can probably keep Brutus, he is too tough, but I would swap saveas for the 7-x stages
@surreal venture in my opinion, dont level up the same like that
especially you have a solo carry which is shemira
it will be better if your shemira lv 81 and the rest lv 61
athalia also good
i would like to suggest you using shemira + athalia + those 3 wilders , but it seems u lack of tank
since that's the case, u should make sure shemira + 2 other dps help to destroy their weakest either from top to bottom or bot to top, not splitting the dps into top and bot
but if u manage to have good tank , at that time u can split your dps to top and bot
Can anyone offer some advice on my line up?
@dreamy rapids the problem is my lucius dies befor he can get cast the shield and something hits my backline through the tanks so everything dies befor they can do shit
Brutus/Estrilda or Lucius/Estrilda in front and Arden/Saveas/Mirael in the back (swap Mirael out as soon as you can and try to get saveas to elite ASAP)
@fringe pawn nemara u mean nemora right? do u even have nemora? i dont see one on your line up
if u have nemora, changing kaz to it is great idea
simply because your lv 61 saveas will be enough to deal DPS as long he didnt die
@silent terrace I dont have it but Im about to buy it from the store so is it a good idea ?
@dreamy rapids In that case Brutus/Estrilda, I am using Lucius/Estrilda because if he can manage to proc the shield before dying that's a near certain win
@pale kettle ^
Lyca or kaz in that spot?
@fringe pawn if u are talking lab store, and u already have shemira, u better buy shemira and transcend it into shemira elite+ first
@silent terrace so there is not point changing kaz for nemora
@fringe pawn yes, unless u happen to have nemora from random card
the reason i ask you to buy shemira from lab is simply u want to get the same good hero over and over again until you reach mythic / ascended
that's why it will be better for you to buy shemira from lab store since u already have one
Is there like any sort of Tier list, or at least can someone tell me who is best after lucius
@dreamy rapids huh estrila gets almost oneshot, god that stage is so anoying to deal with
@silent terrace Okey Im gonna stick with kaz unless I get something like nemora ty m8
@fringe pawn also, if u happen to find any tank from wilder or if you have brutus, that way, kaz can be replaced by that hero, while lucius will be the support since he is not that great as tank
Is the top row a good team comp? Lucius and Brutus front row and others back row
@uneven schooner https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
@grave walrus I wouldn't use Hogan ever, unless he is way over ascended
Heβs elite+
Which one is vedan?
@grave walrus can you make elite saveas, that elite saveas gonna help you alot by being dps
DPS = saveas lv 81 [ 81 is a must ]
tank = shemira + brutus
support = lucius + nemira
u wont have bonus, but u will kill them all
shemira can tank?
I sadly canβt make him elite, I think I need one more of him
@pale kettle given by her damage at lv 61, she can already tank if she got heal
at late game, she is even better at tanking since her skill is too OP
mine just dies in a split second if she has not cast her ult at least once xX
Same π
@grave walrus well, if that's the case , meanwhile try to use shemira lv 81 , brutus lv 81 and the remaining can get the same level
hogan brutus tank, shemira should be behind brutus
both of them focus to kill the weakest enemy hero FIRST and finish the rest
Okay Iβll do that, thank you for the advice!
I've got 10 faction summons, which faction or hero I want try to get?
remember one thing, if u have good solo carry such as brutus and shemira, make sure they are higher level than the normal ones
81 and 80 have a big differences , stats jumped alot, and u got bonus skill upgraded as well
same logic applied when u reach 101 81 81 81 81 , but be prepared since rarity of heroes will decide what's the max lvl of that heroes
@bleak magnet not lightbearers for sure
Okay, whatβs the max for elite?
100 for elite, 120 for elite+
elite = 100, elite+ 120, legend 140 legend+ 160, etc , each rarity increase 20
Im thinking of maulers due to brutus MIA
@bleak magnet u already have shemira E+ , i would suggest u getting GB and keep making E+ heroes, and feed it to make shemira legend
Thanks 
Sorry, GB? @silent terrace
Grave
I feel so dumb
Thanks :D
Farm eggs for brutus π
@bleak magnet I would have to agree with @silent terrace since you Don't have brutus, hoping to get him versus strengthening what you already have is your call but i would just go for Graveborn as well
I'm new. I think I'm doing okay so far but any advice would be great.
What should I do rip
@tulip wigeon your grave core is good, angelo is not my favorite unit tho
i mean if you watch, angelo is actually a better healer than most when you get to higher levels
Just looking for any sort of advice....what heroβs I should maybe go for or what I should do moving forward.
source: i'm past level 70 with my main team and angelo is a must have on my team
@proud compass the first line seems good enough. Nemisu heals until you have something better
I guess I will ask later
@proud compass u dont want that mage numisu , if u use estrilda as tank, brutus as main tank, saveas make it lv 81 so it will be able to SOLO KILL EVERYTHING, while lucius help heal and shield and belinda give crit to saveas, u probably gonna have easier time to kill things
@grim breach saveas for sure
@grim breach saveas Elite 81 vs Ira elite+ 81 , still better saveas
@silent terrace yeah numisu is way under performing right now...hmmm. Okay thank you
@grim breach but make sure it is lv 81 saveas okay, saveas 81 have 1.75 damage multiply, which is the point of his damage
Ive been stuck here for a while, and I can't seem to get past. I have no more exp, and no idea what i should do. help?
@arctic jackal make khasos 61 while other keep lv 40, if u can manage khasos 61 , few 41 while the rest 40 is even better
@arctic jackal wait, before resetting ,check if u have enough resource first
Can anyone have suggestions on how to improve this team? I have no clue
@hot topaz first of all reset those lv 22,12 , 11, get the resource to make 5 lv 41
if still can't
i would always suggest saveas on early and middle game
saveas elite lv 41 should be able replace that mummy looking girl
So moving forward should I just be leveling one unit to 160 and leave the rest 101 or should I keep them all together?
Ok ty
@stable mango when u reach 121, and other at 101, u can only reach 140
max 141 can't be reach unless all hero is lv 120
and so on
Is this a good start?
Ignore levels I've got more I just reset them
I have 100/100 in tavern. Should I go for lightbearer or maulers?
@modest zenith idk which one better okay , u experiment
tank hogan and thane
lucius support
saveas killer, must lv 61
the other is either that mage girl or gun girl
@silent terrace oooo ok makes things easier than I thought than thanks
@earnest gyro never go for lightbearer, i regret it π¦ late game is shit
So mauler?
late game = 160++
Mauler or graveborn
@silent terrace can share with us why lightbearer is shit late game? Like what is it bad at
I have silvina and vedan
@earnest gyro i would say that i dont really know yet, it's too early to decide
if u could save it, better save it for now
not like u can reach legend on any of your race, BESIDE lightbearer, which is suck , i got baited as well because of those belinda E+
Even Lucius is shit tank at late game?
@neat smelt https://www.afkarena.net/tier-list
that's the tier list of good heroes
lightbearer itself has only lucius and fawkes that is considerable okay, not great as for late game
I'm not being sarcastic I am a new player
Yea but they don't really explain why so maybe I might get some insight from u that's why I asked
@neat smelt as for example, estrilda is not too good to be tank, dmg or support
same as most other heroes
while if u compare to brutus, u can easily kill everyone when u have lv 160 simply because the skill of the hero is too OP
or shemira, or nemora, or even Arden
@silent terrace tyty
Hi guys i need an advise with my team. Need to buy shemira or nemura with the lab coin but only one
@unique python have u tried shem instead of numisu? lose 1 bonus but i think it's better overall, try experiment
@unique python and can you make your saveas lv 101 , he is your highest damage afterall
i will suggest the one on your picture with a little changes
lv 101 saveas, back top
lv 81 min khasos, back mid
lv 101 shem, back bot
lv 81 min brutus, front top
lv 81 min skreg , front bot
if u have spare resource then lvl the rest at the same level
the idea is brutus will tank 3 attacker, since he got 4s immunity
while khasos and saveas rape enemy
if skreg died, shemira ult should be finished before she die, so that's good enough
what do you think?
Sounds great!
@silent terrace can u tell me a tips too for my team
Do you have time to help me with my main account as well? :) @silent terrace
I'm actually running with 1. estrilda 2.lucius 3.saveas 4.numisu/tasi/arden/nemora 5.belinda
That's a nice collection you got there
@dusky crow is that saveas is held from 141 because of dust problem as well my friend? π
Given how useful Arden is... is it really worth it to sacrifice him for a legendary?
I could also get shem or estrilda to legendary if I bought from the store... but I'm kinda loath to do that until I've spent all the crystal and scrolls when the update comes π
@mighty swallow I suggest remove hogan and then replace lyca
Ah ok I'll try it
Thank you for the help
There would be some faction bonus of that as well
since 2 wilders and 2 lightbearers
@mighty swallow anytime π
@silent terrace how should I do the line up?
guess iβll just lay this down. How should i improve my team?
I could replace spider with angelo he's elite+ and heals
hes trash tier tbh
Shemira
aw
Brutus lucius best frontline, looks like main dps is silvina (also Brutus) besides that you can switch things up between Arden/fawkes/Isabella/Raine/tasi for additional damage and support
@lone onyx
Shemira isn't strong enough
Any good line up i should be investing in cant get past 6-24
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Dps support or tank
Should i buy from labyrinth token shemira shards to make her elite+ or nemora?? @ionic jackal
I think shemira would be better, elite nemora would be more usefull if you have lyca
@wary wadi the key is to level up some heroes to 81 first so they can get abilities that can turn the fight and gain some stat boost instead of leveling evenly, so let's say your heroes is all 61 then the next thing you do is to level up your strongest heroes to 81 first
Brutus is your highest damage dealer so capitalize on that
I can legend also estrilda but waiting for the event planning to legend lucius
Estrilda and lucius first Brutus middle bot Silvia ardrn
@wary wadi Lucius would be better for early game but you must be sure that you'll get another 2 Lucius so he doesn't stuck in legendary and can be ascend to leg+ and myth
When building up heroes normally who is priority? Dps or tank?
Shemira?
Like saveas shemira brutus
Hmm
Any team suggestions?
@lone onyx don't use ascend on mythic heroes
@last pumice you're still early you'll get more purple heroes soon
Don't use them as fodders
Personally I prefere fawkes
@lone onyx the general tip is
Hey can someone help me with my team please
Any tips?
Do we have tier list on heroes updated list?
Don't leg someone untill you're sure that soon you can leg+ them cuz if they stuck in leg it will be very suck and also don't leg+ ALL ascended heroes you must also leg+ those legendaries heroes so you can use them as fodders so your ascended tier heroes can go to mythic easily
^ this sentence just melted my brain
Noted @ionic jackal
So its more on patience and getting key heroes

More heroes to have it ascended
Why is saveas good?
My current Lineup is Lucius, Hogan, Numisu, Saveas and Vurk.. should I switch anything? I have Isabella, Vedan, Seirus, Estrilda...
He seems decent but not amazing
So its safe till mid end game to have key units on LEG+ ??
@static marsh use purple hero first since you're still early
@prisma turtle highest dps pre 160, high sustain with self Regen and damage reduction
I'm tryna catch the faction boost thats why I'm playing 3 maulers in the backline I don't really want to switch a purple in Saveas seems alright... yet I'm stuck at 4-36
Would Thoran be better than Athalia?
@static marsh you can use morvus first since he's purple
@grim breach they have different roles
Thoran ia a tank, athalia dps/inflitrator
Is Morvus better than Saveas in the backline tho
Purple morvus > blue saveas
Alright thanks man
Purple saveas > purple morvus
Yeah well I just crushed the stage so thanks again lmao
@glass cobalt only level up 5 your highest tier heroes, reset the others, if elite shemira isn't working try to use Belinda for more faction bonus, you can try to incorporate lyca+nemora for their amazing supports
@vagrant hedge yeah! π
@ionic jackal hahaha tried to reset lol
Hows my lineup and level distribution (top row is lineup)
My team has the leg and using mirael, but she is quite weak
If he gets to 141 he'll carry with his roots
@dapper frigate switch of ira for Hogan for more faction bonus and put him in the Frontline, thane can be in the backline since he's a dps not a tank
Alright
Horse lady and vedan instadies
Yo what do I do with all my blue heroes? @ionic jackal
and what do you think is better: Lucius, Hogan and Morvus with Vurk and Numisu or Lucius, Hogan and Morvus with Nemora and Seirus?
Seirus is a tank so I say no to 3 tanks @static marsh
@old bough i don't have ideas since in my alt I planned to 101 someone before passing that stage lol
o lol
I think my team is pretty nice but... still if thereβs any suggestions
Seirus Luciano or Hogan which are the two best tanks of those 3
But you can try to use lyca since she has a good synergy with tasi/nemora @old bough
yeah @azure rapids suggested it
im trying now
turning on my re-try macro
so maybe ill come back in an hour and see it beaten lmao
Ira's actually decent but I'd run Mirael over Morvus in that case unless their difference in rarity is huge @static marsh
Well they're both epic so morvus is the pick I guess
@golden crag seirus and Lucius, but you can use Hogan early for faction bonus
Warek is bad right
@static marsh he's not that bad tho, just need to have him level up
@ionic jackal which 5 would you put in your team?
Need help
@static marsh your top 5
so you'd rock the same 5 that I'm already using? Nice
1
Just need to upgrade them then
Any help for this
@static marsh you'll get more better heroes soon tho lol
curious on lineup suggestions, i keep getting stuck despite type bonuses. all the following are elites and i'm still def in mid-game only just getting stuff to lvl 81. though i'll take advice to keep in mind for later tiers if it's given. i hate that this game makes me give a shit.
i have lucius, shemira, nemora, morvus, estrilda, arden(+), saveas(+), thoran(+), niru(+), ira, hogan, isabella, and mirael.
@pliant marsh that's already good formation, maybe you can try to combo Raine ult with athalia ult and Brutus ult
i've been using lucius to tank carry with morvus and estrilda for the faction bonus. and then nemora and shemira in back as my caster and healer.
Ok I can try that
@vocal kindle your top 5 is already good enough for now, though I'm not good at judging skreg role since I rarely see him
alright
I think I'm addicted to this game I've only started playing today ...
im guessing i should take these tier lists i find everywhere with a grain of salt?
@vocal kindle what you should do is to figuring out the synergies between heroes that you have, it takes time. tier list can give you a bit more perspective on what heroes can do and their role are but at the end you have to be building your team on your own
Oh btw, should I upgrade all my heroes at the same pace? Or should I get my tanks/dds up first?
appreciate the tips @ionic jackal π
And choose which one that can help your progress
any opinion on the above, relius?
@worn copper does shemira doing enough?
Anyone know if there is a place I can trade or gift accounts... I have a few brutus ones I wanted to give homes to
she's definitely spitting out good damage and her and nemora are always the last ones standing.
her suddenly healing herself helps, but sadly a lone caster standing does not win the campaign orz
Maybe switch of shemira to mirael first so you can get more faction bonus, its really helpful to complete some early stages
And for some more fast burst damage
i'm toward the end of the 6th area if that helps, but noted!
@proper hearth no trade or gifts in this game
Idk what to aim for
I mean sure you can... until you register an e-mail on the account I can give tyhese to anyone
What do you recommend changing?
but if it is a discord rule you might want to add it and I will just make a posy somewhere else to help some people out
Posted this in the wrong channel earlier. I'm going to get Nemora once I've got enough lab coins. Any idea who I should replace for her?
Ya I have rerolled near 500 times and have a few brutus accounts to give to people looking for him
Estrilda @slate pivot
I figured that would be my best bet. She's so squishy but I've managed to ascend her too.
@proper hearth well definitely not here or #classic-questions maybe just #classic-chat ?
Id only use 2 strength
ok thank you
and Lucius is really good because his shield and heals.
Thanks for the advice. As soon as I can get more lab coins I should be good.
Hmm, I'm thinking to put in Isabella and Ferael for Vurk and Numisu... the other 3 are Lucius, Hogan and Morvus. Should I? Probably not right
aw hell yeah
I have a question about the line up. I really don't know what to focus on and I'm improvising like a piece of bread right now.
Can anybody tell me what to do? xd
Jesus I'm currently cleaning one stage after another with my new squad, thanks @ionic jackal
Lmao i found 3-36 way harder than 3-40
Er 6-36* , 6-40*
I first tried 40 but took over 50 tries for 36
For 6-28, what should I change?
Use a third tank
Replacing who?
if youre not having a hard time surviving until lucuis first cast, maybe shemora instead of the fire girl?
If youre dying though, thirs tank like gandra said
Third tank*
He's getting destroyed before his first cast.
Help improving my lineup further I'm at 6-28 atm
So I'm fairly new stuck on 5-20 this is what I have, any suggestions?
Hello I'm kind of new
So if you can level the character to 61 and you have hogan and brutus which do you use in frontline with Lucius (61)? If not now, when do you make the switch to Brutus?
My back line is currently Sav (67), Khasos (61) and Vurk (45) - Vurk currently just a background dps spot holder and is also up for debate, could run Mumisu as well but would want him 61 as well for the bonus haste for Sav...
I wanted to know if my line up is alright I'm doing fine burning through 4-26 right now
Sav is a rally good character and looks like you could possibly get him leveld up to elite with the copies of him you have, i have found him to be unbelievable damage wise
he si a beast behind Lucius, just push him straight to level 61
Really I didn't think all that much of sav
But thanks for your help and I will be sure to adjust
he is clasified as the best DPS in game up to level 160 on the tier lists
Oh wow
the haste he gives himself he hits super fast
i didn;t think much of him when i first got him but he is really strong once he gets leveled up
especially if you can pair him with Khasos
hello boys. anybody have recommendations?
i am newer so take this with a grain of salt but i had terribl eluck with Khasos in thefrontline, you need a tank there with Lucius, Hogan is your best bet
move Khasos to the back row
Yeah Khasos isn't a frontline
and you can slide another out, but you may just want to bench Khasos for now, i am not super familiar with the characters in your backline as i don;t have them yet
Muggin is right
tea!
Im fairly new and i just place whose my strongest right now but now i'm having trouble with my lineups who can i use to make a decent team?
Hey Outside!
Your advice earlier was beast man, got into chapter 5 pretty far
I do need your advice again though
The servers are down for maintenance on the other game I play so here I am lol
if yo uhave a second
so i am running Sav (67), khasos(61) and vurk(45) in my backline (vurk really there just cause)
running Hogan (55) and Lucius(61) in the frontline
just pulled brutus
when i can get Hogan to 61 should i swap him out for brutus?
as i understnad brutus needs his 61 skill to be a frontline
but wasn't sure if he was realy worth it at 61 or wait till higher
Mine Brutus at 73 seems squishy still
@heady turret Hogan, Lucius, Saveas, Vurk, Nemora
THat is what i was worried about @silver gulch I feel like th ehogan / lucuis frontline is strong for now
i just hear so much about brutus
Honestly @edgy granite I'd hold off on Brutus until the Easter event. If you buy him with eggs you'll be able to ascend him and make him more viable
Feel free to take a look my lineup I posted earlier outside-
Is it far up xd
Also wondering if i should swap out vurk for numisu for the haste buff when he is 61...
Thanks
@edgy granite I'd stick with Vurk, but maybe swap Khasos for him
@silver gulch which ones do you Use?
Straight away I'm seeing LVL 1 Belinda
Get that changed xD
Lucius and Brutus frontline
@edgy granite @silver gulch I know dat feel 6-24
Lucius, Brutus, Saveas, Belinda, then Nemora or Tasi
Actually no
Arden
Didn't see him
Saves, nemore and nemisu backline
Worth to buy nemora from guild coins?
Lucius, Brutus frontline.
Saveas, Belinda, Arden backline
Put Belinda in the middle
For 3 maulers synergy
Synergy not worth it?
@silver gulch the faction bonus is nice but Arden's CC makes up for missing out on it imo
He combos really well with Belinda and Saveas
Okay gonna try it out
Try it out and if it doesn't work you can always switch out Arden :)
But also think it's a matter of levels at this point
@tribal creek Lucius and Hogan in front, Saveas and Arden and Athalia in the back
Athalia isn't great dps at that level but she'll give some nice CC along with arden
Shemira > saveas here
You think?
She's higher ascend level, higher level and probably has better gear
Hmm level 81 she's pretty weak in my experience
But yes Lucius is absolutely going frontline, always
Yeah but her gear is gonna go to Arden so it's not wasted
Although tbf it's mostly a matter of AFKing anyway
I'd just cut vedan for arden, reposition and try
@tribal creek try what Elgar said first since it's simpler
If that fails try what I said, and if that fails just AFK
Vedan has been a constant mystery for me - he should be good but he's so hard to find a good use for
Yeah haha I see people claiming he can solo carry all the time but everytime I use him he just floats around in bat form doing nothing xd
I suggest staying away from him mostly unless you know an invinc subtank is what you need
Any tips in my case guys? I think i have a solid team, but should i level all equal or focus on one after all are 81?
I like levelling equal but general consensus is to focus on one
Get everyone to 81 then focus on Brutus and Saveas, later reset Saveas for 161 Shemira
Exactly what Elgar said
In general Nemora and Lucius are too good to pass up levelling, nemora last though
Great advice π but this is a good team to go for? Not Any others? I have Some other s tier heroes like verdana
Vedan*
Arden is on the crystal and he's the only other really good one I see
Maybe some stages if you need CC sub him in but in general this should get you through campaign just fine
Thanks! Arden for Nemora then?
No keep Nemora, sometimes switch Shemira for Arden
Nemora + Lucius is insane
Brutus too
Especially against Silvina. He'll still eat **** to her but his root will help him survive a little until your other units can help
Great advice guys. Just started and I love the game. There is just a lot of pay to win on my server.. ppl level 130+