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#afk-fan-art
inland fiber
dusk smelt
HBDWBXJD I LOVE THIS
glacial wagon
Keep calm.
hexed sphinx
It’s the sleep over aesthetic ™. Anyways. I sleep now
inland fiber
DON'T TELL ME TO KEEP CALM WHEN THERE'S BLESSED ART BEFORE ME 😤 😤 😤
muted zenith
gusty robin
glacial wagon
🔨
lyric ermine
Y'all so what's the difference between a Mauler and a Wilder?
analog valve
I can’t say I really know
lyric ermine
All I can think of is the color palette 
But then there's Arkadios
lyric ermine
winter robin
🤷
lyric ermine
Me trying to create a hero but don't know if they're celestial or mauler
winter robin
lyric ermine
winter robin
analog valve
lyric ermine
= ??
winter robin
👎 😒
winter robin
Lol
tight dove
👀
sharp yoke
@lyric ermine wilders are forest creatures, whilst Maulers are mostly predators or desert/safari creatures
tight dove
I'm working on my entry for the new contest and this is my first idea. Any comments to help me make it better?
jovial jungle
Agile type and assassin class?
inland fiber
Noice!!
tight dove
Assassin
frozen quartz
Looking great ♥️
tight dove
Thank you 💚
tight dove
Thank you so much💚
severe wedge
full grail
turbid mist
👌🏻
full grail
gonna stream this on picarto right now
come hang if you guys wanna chat or watch me to really boring vine details PX
frigid light
@full grail you are a god ! 
vale iris
@tight dove looks great but its a bit futuristic than medieval
tight dove
@vale iris aw heck, is it the clothes or hair?
vale iris
clothes but the hair color and style, skin tone eyes and posture are absolutely perfect
A graveborn I presume?
tight dove
Thanks for the feedback and yes, shes a gravborn
silver flare
wip kaz 
valid coyote
Wow she's shaping up so nicely!!
full grail
@silver flare I love how dynamic that pose is 😄
be careful, it looks like the dagger in her left hand might be tangenting a bit 😛
turbid mist
Very good 🙏🏻
low yacht
Hey guys, anyone have any ideas for character abilities? I’m thinking she revives other heroes on the battlefield, but I’m trying to find a way to make it balanced
buoyant vine
you could try balancing it by setting a percentage of hp she revives them with... maybe 10 or 15%, should still be ok
low yacht
Alrighty 👌, thanks
shadow oasis
Finished my Mehira piece
ember harness
You almost made her look pure and innocent...
silver flare
so much lovely art ;-;
glacial wagon
That looks great.
silver flare
@shadow oasis i love your mehira!!!! shes very cute and the flowers are so pretty
glacial wagon
I must go before I become a cancer. Toodles and keep up the great work.
shadow oasis
Thank you so much @silver flare
@full grail your Nemora and Safiya art makes my heart weak. It's soooo captivating!
craggy osprey
sonic jungle
:ogi_happy:
lyric ermine
Unga bunga guy
royal olive
Looks hot
abstract canopy
noice
reef prawn
who is the other one?
cunning nova
i think it's athalia(?)
reef prawn
im too used with not seeing athalia's face.. or just head basically so its kind of weird for me for some reason
quick raven
Scissors
stark osprey
@opal depot ok, pm me
brave ridge
full grail
@stark osprey @opal depot y'all being horny in main again?
stark osprey
did Pas message get yeeted lol
full grail
Yeah... Like why is that even a surprise lol
full grail
It's REALLY NSFW, even censored
stark osprey
lolol
full grail
Mmmmm... 5 days but in hours about 20hrs
full grail
Like... I gave you guys my smut twitter so we can avoid summoning the Mods... PX
trim heath
It's like going down a rabbit hole.
tight dove
a deep hole
silver flare
🐈
trim heath
Cat butt.
short patrol
sooooo good!
green cave
Yup
inland fiber
Hoooo doggity
trim heath
Kaz is like 25% cat, Safiya is like 75% cat.
trim heath
She's 5% bae*
coarse wigeon
inland fiber
no she's 10% luck
20% skill
15% concentrated power of will
5% pleasure
50% pain
silver flare
omg
inland fiber
and 100% reason to remember the name
ember harness
Safiya should add up to over 100%
silver flare
which is a cat
ionic adder
It isn't a cat
full grail
...
ionic adder
it's family of the cat
full grail
all felidae animals act like cats...
tight dove
🤔
silver flare
pedantics
full grail
does it like sitting in a box?
ionic adder
nvm
tight dove
i mean technically its a lion
ionic adder
I'll just shut up
silver flare
oivey
tight dove
anyway shes a cat
full grail
ALSO
trim heath
Safiya is a feline diety.
queen spruce
Lions are literally grouped under 'big cats'
full grail
Actually though, Safiya is definitively not a lion
trim heath
She's a Sphinx.
full grail
because her ears are pointed
tight dove
sphinxs have lion bodies tho.
trim heath
A pointy eared sphinx.
full grail
lions have small rounded ears
silver flare
hahah i think the pointy ears was artistic liberty
tight dove
yeah.
trim heath
Yeah I don't think the ears make her not a Sphinx.
full grail
also her tail is not tufted
full grail
Brutus has rounded ears
trim heath
Sphinx are not real creatures, so they can be at liberty to change the tail and ears.
tight dove
idk why yall are even on about this lol
silver flare
and wing
trim heath
Haha I thought you said wig.
silver flare
no we are just talking about safiya now
queen spruce
because humans like to conversate abt shit LOL
ember harness
And she's not just a head on a lion body
silver flare
we arent arguing : p
tight dove
hhh anyway have fun lol
trim heath
I see talk about Safiya and I'm instantly interested.
ember harness
She's a winged cat-taur
trim heath
She's actually a bunch of pixels on a phone game.
silver flare
woah
trim heath
I know, I went deep.
silver flare
we are all just atoms in an otherwise empty space
inland fiber
Lol we're all just wiggly matter like reality is fake y'all
😂 😂 😂
life is an illusion and we are forced to suffer through it
trim heath
Let it go Zapner, let it go.
silver flare
full grail
okay, serious topic though
trim heath
is nervous
full grail
did you guys notice that the newer characters don't have updated Legendary-tier sprites?
like, that was the coolest shit when Nemora got a flowery spear or Brutus' sword became badass
did they just stop doing that with the new heros?
inland fiber
I haven't gotten any of them up to legendary so 😔
trim heath
I actually don't know what you're referring to, do you mean the alternative art when they use their ultimate?
ember harness
safiya obviously had a fancy crown sprited up, but its not in the game for some reason
full grail
@trim heath no, I mean, when you ascend a hero from elite+ to legendary, their game sprite actually changes
@ember harness that's actually one of the biggest disappointments
trim heath
Wow, I seriously failed to notice that.
full grail
I finally got my Safiya to legendary, and behold, no crown
so obviously it's not a big deal to SOME PEOPLE ^^^^^^
full grail
Also like Kaz's outfit became less revealing somehow
Hendrik has no legendary form either
seems no hero after Brutus has this Legendary tier art update :/
ember harness
Anyone want to make a side by side comparison ref?
inland fiber
Legendary form Hendrik
silver flare
omg yeah i honestly rlly love kazs original clothes
i dont vibe with the teal highlights much
trim heath
Khasos doesn't seem to have any difference between Elite and Ascended @full grail
Perhaps only a few characters have it?
That's so backwards, anime taught us that when a female character levels up, they're supposed to have less clothes.
full grail
it's not all of them, for sure
trim heath
Yeah, but Safiya NOT having the crown, when it's in her pfp is kinda stupid.
full grail
and @silver flare I completely agree. Legendary Kaz is kinda weird, and the design/armor on her leotard animates really odd,
I keep drawing her with the crown, like a "if you build it, they will come" thing
trim heath
Yeah the crown makes her look better.
silver flare
@full grail yeah!!!! i drew the gold designs on her torso as decal, but it seems to pop off her like a weird harness belt
trim heath
I hope the crown isn't a royal pain to draw 😏
Now I'm thinking about commissioning Kaz with a weird harness belt.
silver flare
omy
trim heath
right?
trim heath
They literally colored her hair and blades to match.
silver flare
i feel like it doesnt suit an assassin to have something to clunky so i made it tighter like straps
UGHHH
if they got rid of the damn highlights
id be so happy
trim heath
What's the elite version look like again?
silver flare
i dont have e kaz sadly
full grail
also, like some of the rare type heros have legendary sprites?
full grail
like Ira becomes a total badass if you get her to legendary?!
silver flare
lmao best example i could find
ok so looking at this
another thing i hate is the addition of big clunky gloves
trim heath
Holy crap, Kaz looks drastically different between E and L+
silver flare
right?
trim heath
Like E Kaz is way more busty better colored.
silver flare
right
ember harness
Mirael's legendary sprite has an animation error
silver flare
the teal is just garish
trim heath
Wow that's s weird that only some heroes have changes and others don't.
Her blades change too.
silver flare
right lilith pls step it up
trim heath
I know right?
silver flare
i dislike the teal but the designs of her upgraded blades are cool
trim heath
If only they had whales throwing thousands at them.
silver flare
love the split style
LMFAO
@lilith hire me ill design all the upgraded clothes for ur waifus
trim heath
I mean if they can afford to create new heroes every 2 weeks, they can make every existing hero have 2 designs.
#CrownforSafiya
full grail
Yeah, I wonder if it's an oversight by the design team?
or if they're going to get patched in later?
trim heath
Possibly, that or they couldn't think of 2 designs for some characters.
Lets be honest, all future patches are about keeping people playing and paying and I doubt that would be a huge item on their list to address.
However, you could always put it in the #classic-suggestions
full grail
lol I would push for vanity skins before legendaries if I was at Lility
Maid costumes:
10,000 diamonds each
ember harness
those fancy fake advert costumes
full grail
Does absolutely nothing
silver flare
let mehira upgrade have even less clothes
her wing body suit unfolds into another pair of wings and she has something unbelievably tiny underneath
trim heath
lmao maid costumes XD
silver flare
silver flare
maid safiya was cute af
full grail
YOOO, the first time I realized Mehira's boob cups were just folded wings?
thirst intensifies
silver flare
its a secret lilith is keeping from us
trim heath
I wonder if they'll ever release that one character from the "fake" advertisement with that feline looking female with a shield and a big poofy tail.
full grail
Or a Grezghul who's not terrible?
like the one from the ads looks like a TOTAL SPIKY BOSS
but in the game he's just like "Have some minions that you can kill and charge your ult bar mebe?"
trim heath
Yeah I haven't found much use for my Grez.
faint hawk
Who is the most underrated champion that gets drawn the least in ya'lls opinion?
cinder lagoon
Morvus @faint hawk
faint hawk
Which one is that? xD
silver flare
exactly
faint hawk
is he uh
silver flare
no one likes drawing dwarves smh
faint hawk
the dwarf fairy?
cinder lagoon
Do u like my shiny gun
silver flare
man i dont think ive ever seen a morvus fanart
faint hawk
oh no that's arden
silver flare
ive drawn (2) ardens
trim heath
LMAO Morvus nsfw art should never be a thing.
silver flare
o god phaucks
cinder lagoon
faint hawk
where can I go in the game app and see the hero?
full grail
@trim heath now it HAS tobe drawn
faint hawk
i am a lil noobie
full grail
because of Rule 34
cinder lagoon
@faint hawk
full grail
Mebe
trim heath
lmao
full grail
I bet I can make Morvus sexy
cinder lagoon
Basically @faint hawk
trim heath
Because you'll make him feminine.
tight dove
wait whos the beast
faint hawk
oh ok
tight dove
🤔
faint hawk
so another question
cinder lagoon
@faint hawk if you do wanna find heroes, go to the portraits section.
faint hawk
who would ya'll wanna see fanart of that hasn't already been drawn? sans a dwarf dude lol
tight dove
angelo
trim heath
Draef.
tight dove
i havent seen anything of him
cinder lagoon
Ankhira
trim heath
Angelo's cat, scratching his leg.
tight dove
the bard boy, angelo
cinder lagoon
😔 Don't forget his cat
trim heath
Gushing blood and Angelo in agonizing pain, the cat has a smirk on his face as he embeds his claws deeper into the Angelo thigh meat..
tight dove
are you saying his cat is a khajiit?
cinder lagoon
OK @trim heath
trim heath
I was just trying to sound creative.
cinder lagoon
tight dove
sounds like a khajiit
trim heath
Felis managed to make her cute, but yes she is a spider and that's not cute to begin with.
Unless it's a tiny wolf spider, those are cute.
faint hawk
okay. Gonna go grab some lunch and then start work on Angelo
he does have a kitty so that will be fun to draw
Plus, as a bard, he can be drawn sassy and fun and full of happiness lol
full grail
faint hawk
oh that's cute
void edge
nice
full grail
there's the other anhkira pic, but I don't want the Mods coming after me PX
silver flare
SOOOOO CUTE
faint hawk
why aren't you followed and adored; your art is so GOOD?
full grail
shrug
I'm pretty low-key
@faint hawk I have a smut twitter, which you are welcome to dm me for
faint hawk
honeyyy slide into my DMs ty
lean glade
Yeeeeasss
inland fiber
You didn't do a maid shemira?
full grail
still have to do Nara and Shemira
full grail
been busy with other projects
inland fiber
For some reason i had assumed you already did
trim heath
Felis has it maid.
inland fiber
NICE
lean glade
The only AFK drawing I did was a shitty Nemora while waiting on someone
lean glade
I’m not saying Nemora is shitty
I’m saying my drawing is xD
Nemora is precious goat
trim heath
You have goat to be kidding me.
faint hawk
am i allowed to link my stream if it is afk arena art? lol
inland fiber
YOUR HAND IS A DIVINE TOOL OF CREATION
tight dove
i think so chelli
trim heath
You can @faint hawk
faint hawk
faint hawk
thanks
lean glade
I wanna try drawing more AFK characters now, and redrawing Nemora
faint hawk
it was a gift
lean glade
Guess I have a plan for today
trim heath
Have you drawn anything from afk arena? @faint hawk
trim heath
I'm getting a strong Angelo vibe.
tight dove
faint hawk
😄
faint hawk
i need references of his hat lol
trim heath
@faint hawk
trim heath
Nice one!
trim heath
Angelo is actually definitely handsome, I wonder why more haven't drawn him. Probably because he's one of the worst heroes in the actual game.
ember harness
His art is really handsome but his sprite is ridiculous comic relief
tight dove
i rly like his sprite as well
ember harness
Something got lost mid communication
tight dove
so 🤷
both have their appeal i feel
official art: a handsome bard that sings incredibly well
the sprite: feral bastard man here to explode ur eardrums and make money off of it
so uh yeah im a big fan of both
viral hollow
I think we could use a comic relief character everyone so serious
viral hollow
We get some snarky one liners.. and Vurk squeaking out 'wait for me!' and that's about the most we get
faint hawk
It's what I put into my own characters; seriousness but like, a funny side, usually
marble pulsar
Hey.
marble pulsar
imma just throw a wip in here. ((If yall need proof i did it i can gladly offer some also.))
faint hawk
is that an arena hero?
marble pulsar
No, actually!
inland fiber
Sry but non afk related art goes in #545919777907015684
marble pulsar
Oh, thank you!
inland fiber
This channel is for afk related art only
No problem!
It's a bit confusing lol
Good work tho!
marble pulsar
Yeah, it is. It was in the general space. And thank you again!
inland fiber
Np!
gusty robin
@marble pulsar but if you want, you can join our art server!
frozen quartz
Awesome ♥️
tight dove
that’s beautiful 😭
heavy anvil
skreg stoof \o/
inland fiber
bb!!!
tight dove
tiny man
wild ledge
strange ore
Oh god no Angelo x Cat fan fic plz
wild ledge
wtf..
strange ore
Angelo finna pull a Shawn Mendez
wild ledge
cinder lagoon
@wild ledge thats hella cute!
wild ledge
thank you!
heavy anvil
maybe color later, but scribbles done p:
queen spruce
!!! So cute!!!
dusk smelt
!!!!!! :0 i love these!!!!!!!!!!
cinder lagoon
@green cave its a joke
green cave
Ik I’m jk
strange ore
I do have a bit of a stigma against Angelo cause I pulled an elite Angelo once out of a single draw
silent glade
imagine doing a special summon and get elite angelo
green cave
That’s happened before to me
tiny matrix
I got elite angelo as well
worthy lodge
@full grail I might be out of date, but in your artwork of the female wilders, who is that on the far right?
worthy lodge
Oh, right... Couldn't recognize her without her mantle and bow
That's my excuse for now
full grail
It's not a bad excuse
worthy lodge
Whoop! Self-five! 🙏
silver flare
kaz's hair: has a slight wave to it
me: c u r l
strange ore
ember harness
oh yeah, not sure if if it's old news but Jakub replied to the PM re:contest copyright and stuff
silver flare
:O !!!!
ember harness
the full PMs are posted in the afk artists discord in the main chat
but basically they didn't actually get permission from the devs that a contest winner would get put in the game, so that part got retconned
now everything's just for fun
everyone will be properly credited, ofc, and if any concept does get considered for the game the devs will discuss it further with the chosen one
silver flare
aw yayayay
azure fractal
@silver flare finish this quick i want it all
lyric ermine
Ho, there's an art discord? 
trim heath
Awesome Skreg! @heavy anvil
quick raven
Lemme lurk there pls
gusty robin
@quick raven you too?
heavy anvil
@trim heath thank you ^^
silver stratus
comes out from the depth of the earth An art discord? 👀
full grail
@silver stratus yesssssss
gusty robin
Yeeeee c:
full grail
@silver stratus but it's more like an art discord with occasional AFK art at this point
mental tapir
topaz night
Female Thane troll
mental tapir
Lmao fml
neon shard
mental tapir
mental tapir
Nah
lyric ermine
Nah x2
trim heath
Nah X3
mental tapir
odd siren
New sonic movie redesign leaked!
cold perch
quick painted mehira
trim heath
Very well done @cold perch
cold perch
thank u!!
slow ingot
cold perch
thanks!!
gusty robin
Yes, but it's more for art in general
mental tapir
inland fiber
Is this AFK related?
dusk smelt
Yes
knotty glen
?
I painted it
And did some
Modifications
On computer
Ik it looks real
But I promise u I painted it
mental stirrup
this channel is for Afk related art c:
it's not that we're doubting you painted part of it
mental stirrup
no worries!
knotty glen
I took it down
wary crow
Gently slides in this good girl, her design makes me so pleased ✨
void edge
very cute!!
jovial jungle
Sounds like party van invitation you should join 8th
cold perch
super quick phone sketch of mehira bc i Truly cannot stop myself
trim heath
Mehira overload.
tight dove
@gusty robin can i join?
gusty robin
@tight dove yes
quiet forge
too much art
gusty robin
Never
heavy anvil
love your coloring, and the whole thing @silver flare ^^
silver flare
@heavy anvil awww thank you ;-; <3
ionic adder
@silver flare Permission to point out something about the blood?
quiet forge
thicc
ionic adder
The blood is fine! There's just a small bit that hasn't been blurred (properly?)
silver flare
ah near the blade?
ionic adder
Idk why it's just bugging me a bit because the rest of the blood is blurry
silver flare
it got transparent there for some reasons so i scribbled red on it it fill it in x)
daring meteor
@silver flare D'aww, beautiful lines and colors- she looks cuddly but deadly... just like a cat 😛
ionic adder
wip
silver flare
THATS LOOKING SO NICE danger waifu ankhira
@daring meteor awww thank u ;;;-; yes kaz is cute but very dangerous haha
ionic adder
@silver flare TYYY
green cave
@silver flare more kaz pics she isn’t very loved in artists except for ya
ionic adder
wip nr 2 lol
silver flare
if i can telBABE
wait
LMAO i was typing a message before apparently
anyways BABE
@green cave i love kaz so you dont have to worry about that ; D
green cave
🙏
ionic adder
Ty!
stark osprey
@silver flare
how did you add reaction to her pic???
green cave
Wtf
ionic adder
ionic adder
👌
ionic adder
Just wanted to point out that this is an obvious tracer who traced Alice's art, and I'm saddened to see that the official Afk Arena insta account was completely fooled by them as well.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDM8pLCDGe/?igshid=4u84ftx9ee6x
noble viper
i'm willing to bet that almost all of their other stuff is traced as well
ionic adder
but def copied
noble viper
this is traced
ionic adder
This one is yes
the other stuff is at least heavily referenced as in half traced half referenced
noble viper
either way @_ undeadkun2004 _ is a gross, stealing human and yall should not reward this behavior
ionic adder
yep
river bronze
I love how yall highkey finna end his whole career lmao
ember harness
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this, alice
stark osprey
has bigger bobs though
silver flare
justice for small boobs smh
its okay mini.....i think we will be okay i messaged jakub
for reference
azure fractal
Bless u @silver flare
inland fiber
God his rework of your drawing is grossly fetishy too likw
Alice your drawing of her is hot af
But he deadass had to give her bigger hips and tits
stark osprey
i mean
it’s kinda like a parody
so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
inland fiber
Wat???
stark osprey
it’s not a 100% trace at least
stark osprey
lemme ask this
if you see someone character
but you want some small changes to that char
so you redraw that person art but with your changes
valid coyote
Maybe not a trace but a reference, still
stark osprey
it’s not allowed?
valid coyote
Personally? I think it's okay as long as you don't gain anything from it.
It's sort of like practice in a way
valid coyote
That person submitted it to the official afk arena as an original piece
stark osprey
ok
valid coyote
And gained from it
Don't submissions get diamonds in payment?
I think if he just got inspired by it and if he credited Alice as the reference it would have been much more okay?
novel creek
this one didn't
stark osprey
well then it’d be right to demand him credit alice
valid coyote
No diamonds jakub?
novel creek
no
valid coyote
Alright then, that makes it much better I guess
novel creek
only the ones we choose get Diamonds~
silver flare
mana the thing is
glacial wagon
Alice should calm down and call them out publicly withbher original pic link
valid coyote
I can't draw to save my life so I don't know how I'd feel if someone referenced my stuff lmao
stark osprey
lol
glacial wagon
That is all u can do
U can't control people
But u can self credit yourself anyway
valid coyote
I'm thinking at least he didn't gain from it, which would really be much worse.. but yes I can see where you're coming from Alice
silver flare
its fine if youd be okay if someone traced your drawing, but personally i would prefer them to not. whats done has been done, and i cant control that, but i would just very much not want that to happen. i dont care that they didnt gain anything, them tracing without crediting and just changing a few features is enough to make me upset.
inland fiber
It's not wrong to call someone out for stealing your art
Esp since alice makes money from her art like she's a professional
silver flare
mana, youre free to not be slighted by someone tracing your art. but i am and honestly i dont know what point youre trying to make by saying "look at it like this way its fine" because its just not how i see things.
thanks aero!!
stark osprey
like last time i made some small comments on felis silv piece
felis told me basically “if you want draw it youself or stfu”
but here’s the thing
i find everything on the piece perfectly drawn
except a few parts
so it would be unreasonable to redraw the whole thing in a completely different way when i only want to change 1% of the piece
so a reasonable thing as an artist is to either referencing the original piece and make your own change
or photoshop it to your own change
of course if it’s published online it should be credited to original artist
but tracing and referencing the original piece to your preference isn’t a bad thing
inland fiber
See that's what we call in the art community
A dick move
Don't do thay
Also the things that bugged you weren't mistakes
tight dove
please dont photoshop other people's art pieces
inland fiber
They were style choices felis made
stark osprey
@inland fiber it’s not -_-
silver flare
its my art mana. im sorry but you cant determine how i feel about my art. i would not like for someone to reference my art blatantly without credit.
stark osprey
that’s why i said “preference “
ember harness
If you want to 'improve' on other people's artwork, by gods do not show it to to them
glacial wagon
@silver flare i want you to change that outlook in your life.
inland fiber
Why???
silver flare
glacial wagon
Because you're improving
stark osprey
it’s a preference
glacial wagon
And many will do this
stark osprey
jesus
glacial wagon
Basically you will be upset every time
silver flare
many will do this, sure, but do i just have to take it in stride?
tight dove
wtf. it is not justified to be upset every time someone blatantly steals your art?
glacial wagon
Yeah
stark osprey
your art is good.
no one is saying your art is bad.
glacial wagon
You have better things to do
inland fiber
???
silver flare
im not wailing and sobbing about this. i think im justifiably upset where i can at least call them out.
inland fiber
That's alice's livelihood
glacial wagon
Hoky shit why is a depressed mof9 giving her advice
silver flare
i...never said you guys said my art was bad what
inland fiber
She has every right to be upset abt someone stealing her work
glacial wagon
But you know...
stark osprey
someone said you don’t “correct” and “improve” people’s art online
silver flare
honestly i like you chen and mana but i think we just have very different perspectives on this and its best we just leave it as that
glacial wagon
You don't wanna be upset
ember harness
You don't
glacial wagon
Every time
silver flare
im not upset unjustifiably. i just dont want people to reference or trace my art without credit. thats all.
stark osprey
that’s why i clearly use preference
silver flare
im not losing my mind over this.
glacial wagon
Yeah
stark osprey
that’s why i said it’s correct to demand him credit you,
baka
inland fiber
You can offer feedback but don't like
"Fix" someone's drawing w/o permission
stark osprey
@inland fiber
i offered “feedback” and was told to stfu ^^
glacial wagon
I literally lost it when that company stole everything
stark osprey
and to “draw it yourself”
ember harness
You don't redline someone's drawing unless they specifically ask for it. That goes for any unasked for 'improvement's. If you want to make a photoshop for personal purposes, sure. But by god do not post it anywhere online.
silver flare
after clearing up with jakub that they wont earn anything material from it im moving on from it
just wanted to call them out for tracing my art without credit
glacial wagon
Yeah call them out
inland fiber
Some ppl don't want feedback and that's fine?
glacial wagon
That's bthe right thing to do
stark osprey
ok?
glacial wagon
And then move on
But hopefully you wouldn't bring the being upset thingie
That's nall im worried about
silver flare
aww
glacial wagon
It can pile up
stark osprey
once you have a big presence on the net. your art will be traced thousands millions of times.
the best things you can do is to demand credits.
you can't stop people from immitating your art.
immitation is the highest form of flatery after all.
what chen said
valid coyote
!ban Chen
ember harness
There's a difference between learning from what they did right and incorporating into your own art style, and using their existing work as a shortcut to gain accolades with minimal original effort
stark osprey
accolades?
ember harness
Accolades; noun: an award or privilege granted as a special honor or as an acknowledgment of merit.
stark osprey
how about personal gratification?
ember harness
What personal gratification do you get from tracing?
tracers don't trace for themselves
stark osprey
idk. that guy thought Alice's kaz boob wasn't up to his 'taste' so he made some tiny change
ember harness
And posted it online as an original piece
ionic adder
I wouldn't call that criticism though lol
stark osprey
from what i see the only problem is he didn't credit Alice
i don't see a problem with using original art as reference.
ionic adder
just something they added to make it more "hot"
stark osprey
yea
ionic adder
But that doesn't make what he did right
glacial wagon
That was the issue really
stark osprey
what yall are making a problem with isn't credit but about "tracing" as a practice
ember harness
You keep your tracing to yourself. Period
glacial wagon
Is that some kind of moral?
ionic adder
Just because it wasn't criticism doesn't mean it's ok to trace
noble viper
the dude posted traced drawings with his own signature as if they were his
glacial wagon
I didn't know personally
noble viper
end all, be all, that's stealing
stark osprey
he only put "kaz" though?
tight dove
i mean if the artist has expressed fully that they dislike their art being traced, even if you keep it to yourself, you shouldn't do it in the first place
noble viper
no
ionic adder
nope
noble viper
he had a signature alone the arm
glacial wagon
In the field of music, you can edit them but credit and it's fine
stark osprey
yea
noble viper
this dude traced it like
stark osprey
lol
noble viper
point for point
stark osprey
people are very sentitive about art
noble viper
that's if u took a song, changed 1 note, and called it yours
ionic adder
Art you can unless if a certain artist with a certain non editing rule
ember harness
But he couldn't handle Alice's amazing hair skills and dumbed it down
noble viper
dude it's not sensitive to be against art theft
glacial wagon
Oh okay
ionic adder
as long as there is ALWAYS credit
stark osprey
@noble viper
that's the point though
the original art has everything "right" for him except the bobs size
glacial wagon
Yeah if it's in the artist rule
stark osprey
so he just want to changed that
glacial wagon
Yeah don't
stark osprey
is all
glacial wagon
I mean didbhe even ask ALICE for permission
noble viper
nope
glacial wagon
Bet not
ionic adder
And Alice's art rules are no tracing etc.
ember harness
Then he should have kept it in his desktop wank folder, not posted it to instagram as an original
noble viper
alice had to find out from someone else
ionic adder
the guy broke it
stark osprey
nobody is justifying posting these as "own work" jesus
ember harness
He totally did
stark osprey
i already said he fucked up
ember harness
Toooootally
stark osprey
by not credting alice
ionic adder
Yeah I was the one who found out
glacial wagon
He signed it
stark osprey
yes
glacial wagon
Lol
glacial wagon
And Alice doesn't want that shit
ionic adder
ok
glacial wagon
It's already a done deal
stark osprey
so you go tell him
tight dove
ok but even with your line of thinking, photoshopping someone's art because you thought it wasn't "good enough" is gross
glacial wagon
She owns it.
ionic adder
And he blocked everyone who called him out lol
stark osprey
"don't sign your sig on a trace of other people's art"
it's a "preference" @tight dove
dude
noble viper
god, preach nestle
ember harness
No, photoshopping for private use is fine. Posting it publically, credited or not, is not fine.
stark osprey
small or big bobs isn't about "good enough"
tight dove
but that would be like if someone took a picture of you and photoshopped you to be "hotter" because you "weren't good enough"
glacial wagon
Yeah but we follow certain morals.
stark osprey
i don't care
ionic adder
@stark osprey It may be your preference, but it isn't allowed to edit someone else's creation without permission
Yikes
glacial wagon
@ember harness saidbit manybtimes now
stark osprey
you can edit my art anyway you likie
ember harness
Keep it a private preference, okay?
stark osprey
as long as you credit me that's good
ember harness
Don't let us know
tight dove
yes but other people don't agree
ionic adder
Yeah but not every artist has the same rules
tight dove
your line of thinking doesn't dictate everyone else's line of thinking
stark osprey
this guy clearly didn't credit alice and that's wrong
then you're up to a big upset
ionic adder
I don't want my art even SAVED if it isn't meant for you
silver flare
like i said earlier, thats how it is for you. its not like that for me though. and thats just how it is. i know itll happen, but i dont know what point youre trying to make by telling me that it will happen whether i like it or not.
stark osprey
so now we can't even save picture...
ionic adder
yeah and then the convo got off track because you don't get that people have art rules
silver flare
just. ah
ionic adder
You rather put your preferences higher than morals
ember harness
You can save it if you don't care about the artist preference, but again, by god, do not go and tell the artist
stark osprey
ok
glacial wagon
Read my dm just to be sure
noble viper
don't do that slippery slope shit
silver flare
in a bit chen im just gonna cool off first
glacial wagon
Think about chen
stark osprey
ok
ionic adder
All you can do is edit it for yourself, but do not post your edit without permission, even for the use of criticism
ember harness
Do not flaunt at the artist that you're defying their wishes.
ionic adder
even if you credit it isn't allowed
noble viper
don't let people know this shit
stark osprey
thanks. i'll know to never save your art then
even if i love them so much
gg
noble viper
don't be proud of editing shit from artists to suit your tastes
keep that shit to yourself
please don't
ionic adder
It's to avoid art theft
noble viper
i dont even post here but if i did, don't
stark osprey
okok
glacial wagon
Yeah i linda got fucked up after my music wrnt viral under different namr
ionic adder
unless if it's a comm or a gift then they can def save it
glacial wagon
I went insane
stark osprey
good luck once you get over 1000 followers and you demand every person to ask you before saving your images.
ionic adder
ofc Credit when posting it is ALWAYS required
noble viper
chief
ionic adder
Bruh
stark osprey
imagine you make a Midi and everytime someone download it off a site
you have to approve of it.
noble viper
most people don't have ur thought process of "oo lemme edit this bc x isn't to my tastes"
inland fiber
It's not hard to just be respectful towards other folks' art like what's your deal
noble viper
like most people can save art to just look at pretty art
ionic adder
Lmao exactly
noble viper
this is a you thing, my dude
tight dove
it takes like half a brain cell to comprehend that if the piece of art isn't meant for you, don't treat it as if it were
ionic adder
people have art rules for a REASON
ionic adder
I couldn't care less if I had to give permission 10000000 times over and over
stark osprey
that's why i said it's a scummy thing to not credit the original artist, did i not?
glacial wagon
Yeah you admire it THE WAY IT WAS DRAWN.
inland fiber
You have to buy songs don't you?
noble viper
god, people like you are the reason i didn't have actual art accounts for forever
inland fiber
Lmao
ionic adder
the fact people ASK is good enough for me
stark osprey
and you were right to call him out because he signed that shit as his own
ionic adder
dude
noble viper
people who like, think they're somehow entitled to fuck with the stuff i put blood sweet and tears into, flaunt it, and then expect me not to go off
glacial wagon
Im really tipsy
stark osprey
the act of tracing art itself isn't the problem.
glacial wagon
I keepntyp8ng on mobile
ionic adder
that convo has dropped already
noble viper
if you're tracing art for anything but learning, you're gross and don't talk to me
ionic adder
don't bother asking for permission
stark osprey
stfu (felis style)
noble viper
sure u weren't hon
ionic adder
bc you won't get it
glacial wagon
Order in the court.
noble viper
"artists are so sensitive about their stuff!"
glacial wagon
Keep the argument professional.
glacial wagon
Drop this topic right this instant.
ionic adder
Will do
stark osprey
i'm sure dina has said stfu more than 1k times
glacial wagon
Everyone is contributing to the stress of lady Alice.
stark osprey
oki
ionic adder
I'm done talking about this subject as it is going nowhere
ember harness
Alice has done nothing wrong and should not feel bad for anything
ionic adder
lmao chen
inland fiber
Lmao
ionic adder
exactly
stark osprey
i agree.
Alice has done nothing wrong and should not feel bad for anything
glacial wagon
Um...
stark osprey
k laet's talk about foo tar
same
want some recommendation
?
i can pm
nvm gtg
silent glade
bruh 300+ messages o mg
glacial wagon
Don't look.
silent glade
i already did oh no
stark osprey
use the mass delete feature, lol
silent glade
uhhh dont feel like it um. hey anyone want to see art i got from one of my new favorite artists in #545919777907015684 of one of my ocs??