Audi 80 B3 5 Zylinder swap

[worn raft]

So, i would maybe Swap Out my 1.8s Inline 4 with the legendary 2.3E 5 cylinder, Any toughts? First time swapping an engine, anyone knows If its documented at all?
Any Tipps?
I will probs Strip it from an Audi 90

[summer ferry]

Zylinder

[worn raft]

Whoopsie my German Auto correction Has done me dirty

[open coral]

If you are from Germany, good luck with TUV documentation

As long as you have proper documents inside EU, you should be good

[worn raft]

hmm, i heard it shouldnt be such a big issue as long as the engine was also in the same typo car

[open coral]

But I think you'd also need installation verification from mechanic and an essay about this xD

[worn raft]

Ooooo, my friend is a Tüv guy so no prob i guess haha

[open coral]

Hey, I might be wrong, I am from Slovenia, the things here are way more strict than in Germany, so... just talking from my experience 😂

[worn raft]

u sure? i believe german tüv is the hardest to get trough then in any other part of the world

[open coral]

Yeah, in Germany you guys also accept other documentation

[worn raft]

well shit

[open coral]

here in Slovenia, strictly TUV or ABT ( something like that )

[worn raft]

ill talk to my buddy, else ill let that be on this one and get myself a coupe in the next few years

do you guys do the H number plate thing? so historic cars get it and pay less tax

[unkempt pike]

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[open coral]

I mean, you could always try 🤷‍♂️

[open coral]

Yeah, oldtimer certificate

Car has to be older than 30 years and must have at least like 60% original parts?

[worn raft]

do you think im able to get that if i get the audi 90 front and rear? i mean its been done in that time frame + its technicaly the same modell of car

[worn raft]

older then 30 years ye but im not sure about the original parts thing, i believe even more %

[open coral]

If you change the front and back bumpers you should be good, but you'd need to do it before getting the oldtimer certificate

[worn raft]

ye

[open coral]

Depends how different it is, etc.
I changed a lot of stuff already on my Golf MK3 and it's still eligable for it..

[worn raft]

wait

a sec, ill show

[open coral]

Oh yeah that would be dope and would 100% go through for sure

[unkempt pike]

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[worn raft]

alrighty

also, painting the car in a non standart color works? the one i have rn is the original one, its like some titan metallic stuff

i wanna do the Subaru deep blue metallic kinda color, my rims are off rn, they will end up white

[open coral]

Your car needs to have at least 70% original colors, that ARE VISIBLE on it, rest can be done without homologation

If you are thinking of repainting your car, then you need to get it verified, which might cost some, but hey, at least it's what you like

[worn raft]

wait actually i think it might work, the audi 80 cabrio had it as standart color

[worn raft]

but is the color oldtimer certificate relevant?

[open coral]

Today I paid around 80 euro for new homologation documents, I believe your car should be around the same as we both have almost same year car with same papers

So it should be quite cheap for certain things

[worn raft]

👍

[open coral]

Not sure about that, but I doubt it would be

[worn raft]

sounds fun

[open coral]

The only issue is, if you verify it as an oldtimer, you can't change anything else then...

[worn raft]

alrighty, maybe in near future once im done with this ill get a coupe and like change it to fit a sport quattros visual lmfao

[worn raft]

oh, does re-verification work?

[open coral]

You could try getting LC5L color as that is VW as well, might look good on your audi too

[worn raft]

or other question, how do they know if i changed anything

[open coral]

Each part has their own serial number, that's how xD

[worn raft]

ouu

[open coral]

Yeah, but depending on your % of original parts, the benefits are lower or higher

SO if your car is 100% original, you'd get 100% of the benefits Germany offers

[worn raft]

i mean as i said i got a friend wich is a tüv dude xD

so i can tell you what i changed, it literally only would be the bumbers and uh the tailpipe

[open coral]

I don't think you will find TUV for bumpers tho

[worn raft]

mufflers are the same

[open coral]

Especially if you are going to take from AUDI 90 and put on AUDI 80..

[worn raft]

i think i dont even need to let it inspected with it, my papers tell me "AUDI 80/90 Typ 89"

so technicaly its the same car lol

[open coral]

Well, honestly, most of the mods that aren't obvious wont get noticed

If the structure of the car remains the same, they dont give a shit when inspecting

[worn raft]

thats my documents

[open coral]

It's still a visual change so...

[worn raft]

hmm right

[open coral]

By the law of EU, whatever you would change, you would need to get papers for, which is dumb

Even if you change original part with same part

[worn raft]

yeah kinda stupid, ill ask in the audi forum about that, many MANY people have done that

[open coral]

Well, try it xD

[worn raft]

gimme a sec

[open coral]

For how much did you buy your Audi? I want to buy one too in near future

[worn raft]

that one also used to be an 80

[worn raft]

750 xD but i did ALOT ALOT of stuff, if you arent so picky you can get some pretty good condition ones for about 1k

my goal is to save this car, it had 9 owners and i kinda feel like it got sold once a small issue appeared, last one sold it due to the thermostat being open

i still gotta do the suspension and front breaks then im done with the technical stuff, after that ill spend my life savings on optical stuff

[open coral]

2.9k for 1.6 turbo diesel 😂

[worn raft]

but i think its worth, i get to customize my car how I like it and also it goes up in value, good condition ones go for like 5-8k

[open coral]

I get you man, same with my car

[worn raft]

actually ive heard that the 1.6 tdi goes for more then 1.8s lol

[open coral]

There is even a 1.9tdi on sale, for 400 only

[worn raft]

i picked up the urquattro/b2 rims for 70 bucks, i let them off for powder coding and now they are mint

[open coral]

Abt this powder coding, does this last through the winter?

[worn raft]

yes ofc, its the best way to save rims iirc

[open coral]

I done the same to my BBS and idk if its safe to usr throughout the winter 😂

My uncle and mother keep telling me to switch the

[worn raft]

it is, but i wouldnt really do it due to the salt they put on the ground

that stuff is chemicaly aggresive

i am gonna do it tho, my speedlines are off to be done white as i said, they are for summer

[open coral]

I was thinking of buying new set of wheels just for winter xD

[worn raft]

well i did

but mostly just because i found a steal

[open coral]

Be careful, they might have been broken, restored and after time they could fall apart or have cracks

[worn raft]

nah, i saw the car they were on

the owner passed away, car was rotting in a garage and its unsavable due to rust

[open coral]

Aha okay

[worn raft]

its honestly fun restoring a car

my first car ever was a chrysler lebaron, but i didnt have space to put it since it had no tüv, now i got this... im 17 lmfao

i also put new cothing on the rear doors since the old one was stripping off

[open coral]

Where did you buy the clothing?

I was thinking of buying a new set but only for certain parts as rest is still okay

[worn raft]

got it off amazon lmfao

[open coral]

It has double sided tape?

[worn raft]

but its fine enough, i dont sit in the back anyways, only for asthetics

[worn raft]

yes

[open coral]

Pretty nice

[worn raft]

i can search for link if you want

[open coral]

I colored my roof top interior as it needed restoration

[open coral]

I have to see first where Id even put it xD

So no need right now, thanks tho

[worn raft]

woah im scared off that, mine is still fine but i kinda wanna renew it.... since it has a sunroof tho i dont think i will

complicated to remove

[open coral]

Mine came out really good, based on my likings

[worn raft]

yoooo that looks cool af

[open coral]

Not sure about your Audi, should be similar to Golf, removing the side panels and then it should fall off

[worn raft]

i think so ye but remove seats and all idk

[open coral]

Why would you remove seats??

[unkempt pike]

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[worn raft]

coz there is no way to pull it out

[open coral]

You don't need to pull it out entirely, just get it out of the way so that you can get it out and back inside 😉

[worn raft]

i also have a big struggle with the central locking

[open coral]

Let me guess, you lock the car and its unlocked?

[worn raft]

so the previous owner didnt even know it had it, i was looking for stuff and found a pump in the back, i put the circuit breaker back in and tuend the key around.... front 2 doors worked, back ones were weird, one locked other one didnt, after tapping it a bit it also wend down..... the fuel cap locked

then when unlocking, front doors worked, back ones uh one worked, the other one i had to pull a bit then it worked, and fuel cap didnt unlock

or lets say the fuel cap is a bit random, if i didnt use the central lock for a time it unlocks but after a few times it doesnt

the whole system uses a Vacuum pump, ill have to see if one of the tubes looses air

[open coral]

Vacuum pump for central lock system? Never heard of that

I only know for electric motors one with signal box and like a wire one that pulls down or up

[worn raft]

yeah thats the fun part

mine is a vacuum pump with tubes going to every lock in the car

when you turn around the motor you can hear the pump infact working in the back

[mossy plume]

Yeah that's pretty common for german cars

My audi is that way and my bmw probably is too

[worn raft]

@open coral found the leak

that red part was lose, loosing air

also finally i put theese on after i saw my central lock works xD

[mossy plume]

@worn raft do you have a key fob

[open coral]

👍👍

[worn raft]

So you mean for wireless unlocking of the Car?

Nah i dont

[mossy plume]

Yes

Unfortunate

[worn raft]

did that car even have that?

i dont think so

[mossy plume]

I don't know about the B3 but my B5 does

[inner crescent]

FWD or Quattro?

The engine will bolt in and into the motor mounts, radiator is different I’m pretty sure

Gonna have to get a Audi 90 wiring harness for the NA 5 cylinder

If I were you, I’d just put a 16v 9A in it

[worn raft]

Fwd kekw

[inner crescent]

Same transmission as my fox

[worn raft]

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/audi-80-typ-89-2-0-16v-motor-6a-mkb/2869703887-223-6326?utm_source=copyToPasteboard&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_medium=social&utm_content=app_ios

What about this?

[inner crescent]

Yah that’s what I meant

I’d get that and the ecu and everything for it if you want to swap your 90

Shouldn’t be too hard to find

[worn raft]

But what else do i need for that? Id guess its less of a pain then swapping the 5 cylinder