frozen orbit
Basically the topic is about reliable EV and hybrid electric engines that are preferably small and in range of 150-200 HP. Cant find much about that because EV buyers seem to worship their models and also tend to know jack shit about cars.
So to round it up, I am looking for an electric engine that has 150-200 HP, is reliable and preferably also small.
Can someone help me out with this cause I cant find any proper info on the commercial vehicles quality.
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Camry
dire nebula
Are you buying a whole EV or just an EV motor?
vapid rampart
Get a Prius
frozen orbit
Are you buying a whole EV or just an EV motor?
just the motor
I am basically going to attempt to convert an ICE to a hybrid which isnt even that hard. The only big problems are space and what eelctric engine to choose
dire nebula
Pretty sure it's more awkward to merge two drivetrains than going full EV.
Tesla motors + subframe are often a common base to start convertions on due to good documentation and it being self contained.
frozen orbit
Pretty sure it's more awkward to merge two drivetrains than going full EV.
Tesl...
not really, merging 2 drive trains is rather simple considering the rotational speed of the electric engine is easy to control. Merging 2 ICE on the other hand is a shitshow
you for example could use something like a sprag clutch
for the electric engine
dire nebula
Where in the drive line do you want to place the electric motor?
dire nebula
you for example could use something like a sprag clutch
What car is it you are converting?
frozen orbit
What car is it you are converting?
thinking about a BMW E63. Transmission, suspension and so on is rather good, engine is trash but they are cheap to get with engine damage. Goal is to drop an LS engine into it due to the OHV engines and especially the LS being smaller in total volumen and than I plan to do it as hybrid due to the extra space
I am still not sure what battery I am going to pick but that will depend on the tech level of bateries when I get them.
Lithium polymer is probably the choice to go with due to the good power density and C rate
dire nebula
Where are you placing the electric motor in the drive line? @frozen orbit
frozen orbit
Where are you placing the electric motor in the drive line? <@774923041905049650...
thats the thing, either directly onto/slightly above the front axle, into the wheels (tho those dont work to effectively), in between engine and tranny is most likely impossible so the other 2 options would be next to the tranny or around the drive shaft are the options .
best would be onto the front axle or slightly above it to have both engines in parallel going into the tranny. At least that is how most hybrids seem to do it. In series is not realizable and most dont do it anymore due ot the issues with it
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dire nebula
What transmission are you planning to use?
frozen orbit
the ZF-6 the car comes with
dire nebula
Honestly. I would just stick in a hybrid 8hp. 60hp of electric and and an LS should be plenty of power. 200 electric horsepower greatly complicates it and rules our any off the shelf solutions.
I dont understand how you are planning to fit an LS, electric motor and a transfer box in a e63 engine bay. Let alone find a transfer box good for at least 500hp and Bell housing addapters required.
Driving the front wheels have the issue of the drive unit occupying the same space as the LS.
frozen orbit
Driving the front wheels have the issue of the drive unit occupying the same spa...
that is true
one option would be in wheel electric engines but they tend to be not properly developed yet
an option would be elongating the front slightly to fit the electric engine in between ICE and tranny
dire nebula
You will get handling issues with a hubmotor.
frozen orbit
you can easily elongate the front on that model, a spacer of 30cm should cut it
frozen orbit
You will get handling issues with a hubmotor.
yep, core issue. Othervise I would have gone that route
dire nebula
Hubmotors are so cool tho
frozen orbit
yep
dire nebula
an option would be elongating the front slightly to fit the electric engine in b...
Where are you going to find said motor? Get something custom produced?
frozen orbit
technically with 4 hubmotors at each wheel and realyl good programming you can produce crazy cornering abilities
dire nebula
200hp in 30cm is not happening.
frozen orbit
Where are you going to find said motor? Get something custom produced?
thats the thing, costume is 100% not the way to go. Way to expensive
frozen orbit
200hp in 30cm is not happening.
true, more in the area of 50-100
tho the BMW I3 engine isnt that large and still has 184 HP
dire nebula
Than get an hybrid 8hp. It has a 60hp motor in the tourqe converter. Should also be a bolt in replacement for a 6hp.
frozen orbit
Than get an hybrid 8hp. It has a 60hp motor in the tourqe converter. Should also...
you talking about the transmission from ZF ?
dire nebula
Yes
frozen orbit
I was not aware that it has an internal electric engine
dire nebula
Can't remember what it was called.
frozen orbit
good to know
dire nebula
It's what the hybrid BMW's use
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Get a bmw gt full eletric 🤣
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