Just because it spreads quick doesn’t mean a thing, that just means it’s more virulent, not more deadly
#off-topic-chat
drowsy palm
pliant schooner
yeah i have said i dont think it is deadly
drowsy palm
Back to work I go, do what you got to do...but don’t live in fear
tame sparrow
I shan't live in fear! But I will remember you all when you're gone
pliant schooner
i was just saying that there are lots of countries where people dont have good health care so when it spreads there is going to be an increase in death rates
lavish umbra
I’m not in fear, just saying it could be something this time. The media is usually bs I know.
pliant schooner
i am alert of it i would say not scared
lavish umbra
I’m tough enough. Or not. EHH.
frail warren
i'd say it's a kind of a big deal, but not like a big deal
pliant schooner
i think it has the potential to become a big deal
frail warren
yeah, if it gets handled well
but if nobody cares, which in this case, isn't happening, everything will resolve in a few months
unless the virus uses gene reshuffle
and starts building up lethality
then we're screwed
lavish umbra
No. It’s all good
pliant schooner
turn that 😞 upside down🙂
lavish umbra
You’re better than this
distant siren
i have other problems
pliant schooner
just keep your self updated on the situation but dont panic about it
frail warren
and wear your facemasks
livid lava
corona is joke
pliant schooner
just take more precautions if u have to like washing your hands and if u have a cough or need to sneeze have a tissue
distant siren
dont live at all so you dont get infected
lavish umbra
I have anger shit but I use it for strength
frail warren
yes
distant siren
lavish umbra
It isn’t optional
distant siren
im not angry im just god damn disappointed
frail warren
what
lavish umbra
But it’s all good
pliant schooner
at least the contaminated people in the US were not staying at a hotel in a city like the UK
frail warren
yes
lavish umbra
If you have shit parents it’s just inherited, but you can use it for self defence or working harder
We are getting contaminated peeps all over in aus
That’s the ones that put their hand up
It may blow over next month anyway. No real drama just yet
bold quest
Guess which country accepted a cruise ship from china
tame sparrow
Hmmmmmm croatia?
foggy thorn
he sent a message yesterday
fair cape
Using the might of mods to delete a users message is like cutting of an arm
foggy thorn
que
bold quest
@tame sparrow apparently Philippines did
tame sparrow
I don't think they have the health infrastrcture to deal with a pandemic
lavish umbra
Australia been takin flights, so has us, that’s where these fuckers are coming from. They’ve been making a case for sadness and clemency but infected are coming in
Flights should stop for a while
If you are there too bad
Wait it out
foggy thorn
will do
lavish umbra
Ty
tame sparrow
That's bad public policy
foggy thorn
actually no I won't
lavish umbra
Don’t come running from wuhan
foggy thorn
I will
bold quest
Time to make a new acc in league
foggy thorn
play league with me
ornate apex
or just google translate something, no one can tell
bold quest
@foggy thorn play on garena
foggy thorn
garena?
bold quest
Garena handles the sea servers
frank moth
i have acquired the feeling of anti-entertainment
lavish umbra
Try an actual game
foggy thorn
why would the sea have servers
bold quest
Sea= south east asia
lavish umbra
And idle idly
foggy thorn
I play NA nerd
bold quest
Mortal shits
foggy thorn
I'm not mortal
lavish umbra
This just in
foggy thorn
yeah
lavish umbra
BURN THE WITCH
foggy thorn
no
autumn copper
Launching balls to complete hand, finally get it after about 250 balls, lo and behold a full house! I'm thinking "Yay!" But instead, the hand resets.
bold quest
Massage the balls before using them
clever karma
Wow I just got two jackpots in a row what's the chance for a jackpot
frail warren
yep
clever karma
Ok cool I won the lottery
frail warren
two in a row is 1/27k^2
lavish umbra
Alien said something similar and then got another later
tame sparrow
Kuaka isn't mortal because you cannot kill that which has no life
frail warren
buy a lottery ticket
lavish umbra
Funky drops
livid lava
my terraria just crashed, with 10+ slots of items
tame sparrow
The lottery has far worse odds than 1/27k
frail warren
you're guaranteed at least a win with two jackpots in a row
foggy thorn
ouch
lament prairie
but better than 1/27k^2
ashen orbit
foggy thorn
you have to factor in the multiple balls
frail warren
true
foggy thorn
it's not like you have 1 chance
frail warren
i dunno how many balls he used
foggy thorn
atleast .02
ashen orbit
I'll factory in your balls 
void spade
What
tame sparrow
Each ball has an individual chance to be one of the 1/27k so unless two balls in a row got jackpot the numbers aren't right
tame sparrow
So its still a lot more likely than winning the lottery in the US
frail warren
yeah
void spade
Heiz please
errant forge
Quality of the balls? What did I come to
tame sparrow
make sure to check for lumps once a month
bold quest
It's always sfw here
golden ivy
Each ball has the same chance as the last, so if you use like 1,000 balls you're more likely to build up enough chances to make the chance of not getting the jackpot much less likely
tame sparrow
chances don't build up
frail warren
no
bold quest
Hope does
golden ivy
Theoretically they do
frail warren
that's not how probabillity
tame sparrow
that's not how statistics and probability works
frail warren
these are independent events
golden ivy
To a degree it is
frail warren
not dependent
and it also isn't true random
so there is some predictability to a certain degree
golden ivy
Think of it like this, if you throw out a million balls, the chance of you not getting the lottery is significantly lower than getting it by that point
frail warren
no
golden ivy
"no" good argument
golden ivy
I'm talking about pachinko
I was pretty sure that's the page we were on here when we said "lottery"
frail warren
it's like brute forcing a password
tame sparrow
The predictability is completely meaningless in pseudoRNG unless you actually know what the seed is and how to exploit that knowledge to influence the outcome.
frail warren
you could technically throw out a large amount of balls, and not get a jackpot
it's extremely improbable
but not impossible
lament prairie
with infinite amount of balls you would get every result infinite times
bold quest
Nice
foggy thorn
woah
golden ivy
Just because you use an infinite amount doesn't mean you're guarenteed anything, because the chance of hitting something could be infinitely small
foggy thorn
language
bold quest
Very proper
golden ivy
"Chance" works both ways which means it cancels itself out for the more part
tame sparrow
An infinitely small outcome will still happen infinite times in a large infinity
frail warren
MuScLe MeMoRy
bold quest
Nani?
foggy thorn
que
golden ivy
For the most part you only need to apply this to gambling, you wouldn't play on a machine that just gave out a prize, you'd wait until fifty other people fail first and then try, because your chance goes up, but that's also another case of "it's probably not actually RNG and it's most definitely based on how much was spent"
I'm not sure there's a scenario where RNG actually exists, in realistic scenarios I mean
tame sparrow
You are pretty fuckin sorry
bold quest
Funny saw my name, so that immediately foiled his plans and made him say fuck
frail warren
ultra, that's for a machine that doesn't replace the outcome other people use
lavish umbra
If gambling. Don’t.
frail warren
not in our case though
golden ivy
I hate that I clarified that and you guys said it anyways 
frail warren
if(gambling())
{
dont;
}
lament prairie
in our case the chance doesn't change when you don't hit the jackpot 10.000 times
tame sparrow
Don't slot machines use nuclear random number generators tho? So the chance is adjusted to have a threshold but the number truly is random
golden ivy
Do they??
frail warren
yeah
ashen orbit
you know guys, i just had the Idea to take off mark when trying to beat a Crusade boss, boom bitch finally got FOA 100
clever karma
Nothing is random unless it is moved by quantum mechanics
frail warren
lavish umbra
I tried slots once. Won 200 from 50$ and went home, watched my family lose hundreds, it’s rigged against you.
bold quest
No
lavish umbra
Anecdotal but anyway
fair cape
If you have one ball, you have 1/8000 chance to hit a jackpot (i made up that chance), if you waste 1000 balls, you have that chance a thousand times so your chance "adds up" within these thousend balls to 1/8, if you waste 8000 balls, it would be likely to get a jackpot at once (but its only chance, not graved into stone)
frail warren
no
bold quest
I have 2 balls
tame sparrow
Anyway, my main point earlier was, good pseudo-random number generators are as good as random for laymen's purposes because unless you're trying to exploit it, there's no difference from a set of truly random numbers.
golden ivy
I don't get why people play the lottery when you can make educated gambles, like with crypto or the stock market, which have patterns you can adjust to and follow to gain borderline guaranteed profit (It's really only 100% when you're a whale)
frail warren
lets consider a hypothetical scenario where we live in the state of hypothetica
they have a lottery with a chance of 1/1000 of winning
you play 100 times, and since the numbers aren't replaced, your chance becomes 1/10
but in pachinko, it uses an independent non-replacement psuedoRNG, which if you play 100 with a chance of 1/1k, you'll still have 1/1k chance of winning, but getting to the scenario is improbable
lavish umbra
Gold only, forget stocks
frail warren
stocks r okay
lavish umbra
Gold is gold
frail warren
buy cheap sell expensive
golden ivy
If you follow the rebound periods and find where they typically stabilize you can maybe get an easy 5-10% back, it won't happen for sure everyday but it's better than mindlessly throwing money on scratch-offs
frail warren
tangible currency is good during war
bold quest
And in outbreaks
frail warren
and buy during stock corrections, where everything drops by 10%
like a 10% off on all stocks
and they usually rebound back
so that's profit
bold quest
Move this to #511292561109942312
tame sparrow
Most people play the lottery because A. They aren't playing for the same reason people who invest in stocks are investing, and B. because there's no risk. You're spending your $2 for the possibility of getting more money, you're not advancing that $2 towards a future profit. With stocks, you're purchasing what is essentially goods. With the lottery you're purchasing an opportunity, however small.
bold quest
I mean the conversation
lavish umbra
Suggests you
bold quest
@foggy thorn Open it to all
frail warren
yes
vale flicker
Wtf is up with fishing anyways
frail warren
open mod chat
vale flicker
At the start of the game you have not enough
bold quest
You fish up guys
vale flicker
Then you have too much
frail warren
funny = lottery
bold quest
Cause, catfishing
vale flicker
And then you don't have enough
lavish umbra
Go for enigmatic
vale flicker
But then you finally have enough to break fishing
vale flicker
And it's just a weird cycle
bold quest
Open it
clever karma
Damn
frail warren
spam funny?
bold quest
You locked out reactions
fair cape
You cheated
foggy thorn
funny spam
golden ivy
React with 5 
in 10 seconds and funny has to reopen the vote
fair cape
Cause you are mod
golden ivy
got'em
fair cape
All mods are cheating
lavish umbra
Mods are corrupt. It is known
golden ivy
HUNDREDS of people in this bitch and only 6 people to react
vale flicker
Ping
golden ivy
fuck
foggy thorn
we got 10
bold quest
He does
vale flicker
Yes
vale flicker
Kuaka is correct
foggy thorn
I know
echo spade
Well I accidentally deleted a good pet
vale flicker
I know that feeling
foggy thorn
no
vale flicker
No
bold quest
*10/10
lavish umbra
No
foggy thorn
easy
vale flicker
No
echo spade
Boom
bold quest
You gotta open it up now
echo spade
👌
clever karma
foggy thorn
you said you were going to
bold quest
I'm gonna choke you
rugged plover
Augh
vale flicker
Kinky
foggy thorn
kinky
tame sparrow
stinky
foggy thorn
how did your iPad break @rugged plover
rugged plover
Ima not say
echo spade
I broke it
bold quest
He tried to reproduce ipads
vale flicker
Nice
foggy thorn
@rugged plover say or ban
vale flicker
Ban
echo spade
Say sike right now
rugged plover
I raged :I
vale flicker
Open mod chat
lavish umbra
Fork my iPad broke a while back. Now I’m paranoid. We need that cloud saviour 🌅
echo spade
tame sparrow
there's a bot command to see what mod powers you have @native gate
foggy thorn
it shows nothing
tame sparrow
oh lmao
echo spade
Don’t be banning everyone
fair cape
Mods misusing their might
tame sparrow
hmmmmit says you can use vad.... how does that work?
foggy thorn
don't
bold quest
Me
foggy thorn
dont fill the logs with dumb stuff
rugged plover
Me becouse why not
bold quest
Actually, enlighten everyone with warnings
foggy thorn
!tempute @native gate tempute 4d
echo spade
bold quest
That's like saying kuaka aint mod enough
lavish umbra
No ,deaththreats please!
bold quest
@foggy thorn U gonna let him treat you like that?
raw folioBOT
You can't warn a moderator.
foggy thorn
!tempmute @native gate idiot 3s
raw folioBOT
You can't mute a moderator.
rugged plover
Eae
lavish umbra
I’ll fucking kill you, rule breaker! And so on
foggy thorn
stop fucking cursing
fair cape
A deaththread, where everyone can speak of death wishes, nice idea for a channel
lavish umbra
No bondage allowed
bold quest
Just BDSM
bold quest
It's either bdsm or bondage
foggy thorn
just your regular general chat
fair cape
I see
bold quest
Chat died
foggy thorn
no
bold quest
Yes
floral trout
Ok, I feel dumb. I just now realized after 8 ascentions that I can multibuy skiller upgrades
echo spade
Death
floral trout
having to buy 200+ upgrades for each skiller one by one was killing me
tardy crescent
finally some 0.0001% decent reward
pliant schooner
?
tardy crescent
after many yeats of getting less than 15 gems per crypt entrance I get 34
pliant schooner
ahh
tardy crescent
also I actually got very few gems from spirit 1 lol
lavish umbra
Nice but eh, I like those 90 ticket pull best
tardy crescent
t i c k e t s
echo spade
lavish umbra
Ball
foggy thorn
queso
lavish umbra
Fail
echo spade
D
tardy crescent
E
pliant schooner
A
foggy thorn
L
lavish umbra
Or no deal
trail summit
Wtf
lavish umbra
Flava pls
echo spade
echo spade
void spade
Yes
echo spade
foggy thorn
yes
void spade
It's true, I've looked at the code. No bug at all
echo spade
ashen orbit
that's just like communism, it works! but only in theory lol
lavish umbra
Plug
Buggery
echo spade
lavish umbra
Communism would probably work but it’s run by the same asshats who run democracy and royalty
echo spade
Well I just used all my green coins
void spade
Nice
golden ivy
Ok
foggy thorn
no
it's mod only
no
stupid
oh that
yes that's anyone
but !user-info is mod only
yes
fair cape
Kuaka, i know you want it @achievement-pics
ashen orbit
that cropping tho Lmao
twin hound
Hell yeah!
golden ivy
fucking malware
echo spade
Sick I have 0.09 speed now
foggy thorn
@fair cape what
fair cape
Deletin messages
echo spade
Dang my basketball glitched two times
echo spade
Um ok
echo spade
Dang everyone dissing on me
foggy thorn
only 3 flowers
echo spade
Or more like 2 people
ashen orbit
damm Kuaka, you sux
foggy thorn
no
fair cape
Where did he go?
fair cape
xD
foggy thorn
fair cape
Yeye, but you dont have a blue hp bar from monsters :p
ashen orbit
kuakasuxxx
void spade
Wtf
foggy thorn
lol only bean baby 2
echo spade
Haha I’m trash
foggy thorn
lol only 2q dmg
ashen orbit
lel, it's ok, you'll get there soon
foggy thorn
same thing
echo spade
But you right I’m trash
foggy thorn
not even bog
echo spade
ashen orbit
not even teehee
tame sparrow
Who's not teehee?
echo spade
Me
tame sparrow
bastard
echo spade
Not even past the first enemy
foggy thorn
lol bad
tame sparrow
try getting more damage
ashen orbit
try crafting
foggy thorn
have you tried getting good
foggy thorn
you clearly haven't smh
echo spade
Ok
fair cape
Ye, you dont even try to get the basketball pet, kuaka, try to be a little better xD
tame sparrow
scoff
foggy thorn
fair cape
Posting screens from other players there
echo spade
More things to laugh at
foggy thorn
but it's mine
fair cape
Yeye, sure
tame sparrow
We don't need to see your stats to know you're bad, friend
void spade
ye it's Kuaka's but the hoops pet is tainted
tame sparrow
muey bueno
tame sparrow
@echo spade is bad,
echo spade
No problem
foggy thorn
golden ivy
real nice and crusty
foggy thorn
huh
golden ivy
oh wtf
tame sparrow
adam is making calzones
foggy thorn
k
golden ivy
tame sparrow
mobile?
golden ivy
no
tame sparrow
looks fine here
burnt pecan
^
tame sparrow
What about this pic adam?
burnt pecan
kitties pussies
tame sparrow
bray I see you're still slutting it up
void spade
what
burnt pecan
lol
lavish umbra
Titties was inferred bray not cats
foggy thorn
cat
void spade
:3
void spade
LMAO
tame sparrow
car
golden ivy
9ir
void spade
from which site
golden ivy
igg
golden ivy
you suck bray
tame sparrow
How do you even get malware nowadays?
void spade
not because of that though
void spade
downloading pirated games from a sketchy website
tame sparrow
There are so many great tools to prevent it
burnt pecan
imagine downloading compooter viroos
golden ivy
i think it was installed by another site trying to stop it from being stolen
void spade
I don't
tame sparrow
This is why I only download games from fitgirl repacks
tame sparrow
Journey to the Savage Planet is a lot of fun btw
void spade
Dead Cells is dooooope
burnt pecan
Is it really good?
void spade
Sooooooo gooddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
golden ivy
which account?
void spade
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
burnt pecan
lol
void spade
DEAD CELLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 😩
golden ivy
i agree with bray
burnt pecan
Ill grab a steam key for it if u got one static 😉
burnt pecan
lol
tame sparrow
isn't dead cells another one of those soulslike sidescrollers that are so popular lately?
golden ivy
i pirated at least 75 games
burnt pecan
Im getting paid this weekend, plan on either buying Journey or some other game (maybe Dead Cells idk)
golden ivy
well this was in one day
void spade
Yeah, but it's actually really really solid and fun @tame sparrow
golden ivy
and my vpn free trial expires tonight
so i will be downloading deadcells from soemwhere else
tame sparrow
I get my vpn for free cuz my friend bought a multi-seat subscription
void spade
Gives me SOTN vibes
golden ivy
because im only doing ddls
frail warren
what
tame sparrow
Paid VPNs are the only safe VPNs
void spade
^^^
golden ivy
yeah
burnt pecan
^
void spade
Free vpns == sell ur data
golden ivy
but i dont need a vpn in the first place is all im saying
tame sparrow
Lol if you're doing direct downloads you don't need a vpn at all
golden ivy
yeah
frail warren
i'm torrenting my shit
golden ivy
yeah i was gonna ask why do you need one in the first place
frail warren
so i kinda need a vpn
void spade
some people can't torrent Kuamo
golden ivy
thats what I keep saying
tame sparrow
unless the website is a honey pot
foggy thorn
what
frail warren
true
tame sparrow
Honeypots are quite useful in network security actually
void spade
we already had the entirety of China blocked in our firewall
frail warren
why do i keep confusing bray and kvetko
golden ivy
we are both alchoholic germans
void spade
and Russia I think
golden ivy
my dad's work is getting a package from china and they all have to wear hazmat suits to open it
void spade
lmao
golden ivy
lmao rip china
tame sparrow
Wearing hazmat suits to open a package is a bit silly since presumably they still have to use whatever was in the package
frail warren
just decontaminate it
burnt pecan
^
golden ivy
yeah but they are wearing hazmats suits for the initial opening
tame sparrow
ah if its a part they can just bake at 500 degrees for a few hours
tame sparrow
but then body temp would kill it
tame sparrow
oh celsius
golden ivy
yes
frail warren
not 57F
tame sparrow
lmao
frail warren
57C is like 150ish F
golden ivy
I just assumed we were all metric
void spade
America Gang
burnt pecan
no
burnt pecan
Imperial > Metric
golden ivy
no lol
frail warren
America gang
golden ivy
lmao how?
golden ivy
you are all outdated
void spade
because fuck a metric
burnt pecan
lol
frail warren
Metric > Imperial
frail warren
kiloInches
void spade
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
frail warren
kilobytes
tame sparrow
you know, I've always felt that celsius is the one metric standard that was chosen arbitrarily. There's no reason at all to base the temperature scale on the boiling or freezing point of any chemical or compound, since that changes under different pressures for everything. Would make more sense to use a scale that starts at absolute zero and is based on how much energy you need to put in to something in a vacuum in order for it to emit a certain amount of energy back out in a certain amount of time.
frail warren
megabytes
tame sparrow
bye bray, try not to get the kung flu
golden ivy
oop i just got another district announcement about corona
frail warren
you can find out things fomr that lettetr
tame sparrow
realistically everyone in a contaminated area should be masked
golden ivy
HOW?
frail warren
names
golden ivy
its provincal
and i am open about my province
hell even my city is known
wow you guys r such haxxer kidz
tame sparrow
he lives in shitsville canadia
tame sparrow
later ho
golden ivy
by haxxer kid
foggy thorn
foggy thorn
bye
golden ivy
ok
foggy thorn
why
void spade
say something else stinky @golden ivy
golden ivy
ok
pliant schooner
poo poo
tame sparrow
I call this MEATing of the Nut-hater's club to order
golden ivy
ok
pliant schooner
ko
tame sparrow
Everyone in favor of hating nut please react to this post in any way
golden ivy
ok
pliant schooner
u got me vad
tame sparrow
i got u u slut
pliant schooner
yeah u are banned selahattin
tame sparrow
You can use vad tho ;)
void spade
uh oh
golden ivy
ok
frail warren
boomer?
golden ivy
ok
foggy thorn
ok
pliant schooner
sohcahtoa
frail warren
sine=opposite/hypotenuse cosine=adjacent/hypotenuse tangent=opposite/adjacent
golden ivy
Imagine being gay
pliant schooner
now add a h at the end
frail warren
gayh
pliant schooner
and we are getting into the fun parts
frail warren
what?
pliant schooner
like sinh
lavish umbra
⚠️
pliant schooner
boat doesnt approve of math talk
frail warren
i think it's e^x+e^-x or something
golden ivy
I just realized that I have more games than physically possible to play
frail warren
how
golden ivy
Like within the time I have
pliant schooner
u gonna die today brayx?
golden ivy
If I devide all my games into equal parts per day I'm only playing 30 minutes per day each and i die tomorrow
So yeah
pliant schooner
thats like 48 games
frail warren
ok
golden ivy
How many hours do you think I have to spare?
frail warren
AND IT'S DIVIDE NOT DEVIDE
frail warren
now you don't
tame sparrow
imagine only playing games for 30mins a day, how sad
frail warren
go play
void spade
nice
golden ivy
And Sunday will be enter the gungeon
frail warren
nice
lavish umbra
Forget those games, there’s too many
lavish umbra
Just pick one
tame sparrow
Stardew valley is so good
foggy thorn
@errant forge please be smart and put off topic content in #550107059920699392
golden ivy
Agreed
golden ivy
I finished Stardew on my phone so I'm restarting on my pc
But I'm minmaxing everything
tame sparrow
Finished as in you got everything?
frail warren
sosig
lavish umbra
Stardew is a classic, mod it then on pc bray for auto collect
frail warren
sosig
tame sparrow
lavish umbra
I’ve deleted so many games @50gig plus, I’d love to finish them but no.
frail warren
sosig
lavish umbra
I need new 50gig games
pliant schooner
i have 320GB left
tame sparrow
my space remaining changes constantly as I install and uninstall games pretty frequently
frail warren
and my small anime collection
pliant schooner
just look at ur library and uninstall things u have not played in ages
burnt pecan
I have like 150Gb storage
tame sparrow
A terabyte definitely doesn't go as far as it used to
frail warren
i'm thinking of using two more external hdd's with 160gigs each to store my stuff
lavish umbra
Yes tyrannobyte please
frail warren
but they're slow
tame sparrow
Much better to save up $250 and just get yourself an excellent large NVME drive
lavish umbra
TENKAYE
tame sparrow
sorry
lavish umbra
10 k g
frail warren
it ok
tame sparrow
find smaller atoms and we can
lavish umbra
And consoles, 8 bit 16 32 64
Pro was a rort let’s be honest how many jackasses here got one of those
tame sparrow
.... what?
lavish umbra
PlayStation pro
tame sparrow
ohhhhhhh
hushed gull
I have a ps4 pro
lavish umbra
Half gen cash grab
tame sparrow
All the console manufacturers do that
lavish umbra
Fair
pliant schooner
wasnt the xbox 1 pro just more storage basically
it went from like 250GB to 1T
storage it also pretty cheap so yeah defo just a cash grab
lavish umbra
So I don’t have both to objectively say so but the difference between 360 and bone or ps3 and 4 wasn’t even that massive so the jump to pro couldn’t have been revolutionary by my reckoning. Yet people frothed at the mouth for that 4K experience, even some without a 4K tele.
pliant schooner
4k was a joke when back then
half the time 4k caused your game to have big fps drops
tame sparrow
Doesn't console 4K still involve a severe decrease in FPS?
lavish umbra
I hear 4K talk and oh ok then, but tbh at the time of blu ray I was like but dvd is already crystal, how tf can something be 4 times sharper than crystal clear but idk apparently kids were having epelepsy watching DVD.
tame sparrow
Lmfao
frail warren
oof
pliant schooner
ffo
snow hedge
gaming in 4k usually involves fps decreases even with pc
pliant schooner
yeah 4k is still not the best
frail warren
unless you got a B E E F machine
snow hedge
true
frail warren
then you can run 8k
frail warren
but any run of the mill mid tier can run 4k with like 50ish
tame sparrow
well yeah, but the problem with 4k on a console dropping FPS so severely is that the console is advertised as 4k and perfect, when the reality is you can turn on 4k and get 30fps or less in a lot of games, which just looks terrible regardless of how crisp the picture is
snow hedge
yeah 4k with shitty quality settings
i'd rather play on 1080p with max quality than 4k with lower quality
tame sparrow
Also you don't need 2 2080s to run modern games at max settings in 4k lol, I can consistently get 60+fps in 4k with one 1080
tame sparrow
But I prefer to play at 1080 as well since I no longer have a 4k screen
blissful raven
I don't waste money on 4k
also I always have epilepsy so I guess that doesn't matter
tame sparrow
I don't believe lower resolution of video is linked to epileptic seizures anyway
errant forge
Please help me, I need to downgrade a roblox game from BETA V1.5.X to ALPHA V0.8.X
blissful raven
resolution isnt
its refresh rate
mostly due to CRT screens.
LCD and plasma isn't really an epilepsy factor
but, framerate could be I suppose
never really paid any attention to that
lavish umbra
I had some epeleptic fits when I wasn’t eating well and it definitely is related to light as well
lavish umbra
I’ve experienced it and seen it
blissful raven
I mean, in the sense that some visual stimuli affects seizures sure
tame sparrow
The light output is completely unrelated to video resolution as well
lavish umbra
Dark room flashing lights, down like a fish out of water
blissful raven
nobody could scientifically say "aw hell no thats bs" because the science behind epilepsy is complicated
yeah flashing lights is the typical trigger
at least without really good seizure control
but idk why people would complain about having seizures due to a game like that
tame sparrow
photosensitive epilepsy is an uncommon occurrence among epileptics actually. Not super rare but also not something you see every day
blissful raven
eh idk about that
winged sigil
I got 2 4k screens because I want the real estate for all my applications
blissful raven
the ones I've talked to mostly have photosensitive seizures
and I do as well, but I'm controlled
I don't have seizures when on my meds
so uh, I couldn't say if framerate has anything to do with it
winged sigil
in retrospect, 2 1440p screens would've probably been better
tame sparrow
It doesn't matter what the ones you have talked to have said lol. The statistics are what matters, and according to the statistics about 1/100 people has some form of epilepsy, and among epileptics about 3% are photsensitive
blissful raven
fuck man I need more screens
lavish umbra
It’s messed up, funny and scary I’ve seen my stepbrother do it and my other stepbro saw me do it laughing and saying shit are you ok
Lack of nutrition and photosensitive stuff is usually it
cedar shard
tame sparrow
I need to add a third screen to my setup
blissful raven
yeah idk what study you are referencing vad
lavish umbra
Unless you are predisposed
blissful raven
I have not heard that stat.
first off how the fuck are they even going to measure that
lavish umbra
Then it is more serious
tame sparrow
but the problem is I want it to be the same size as my other side screen and its hard finding another one that size :/
blissful raven
an EEG is pretty generic
but its the best they have
so if you're telling me someone studied EEG results to figure that out, lets find all the studies that have said the opposite
winged sigil
ondra, who cares
tame sparrow
When I had an epilepsy test at the neurologist they had me close my eyes and flashed a bright light at me at different speeds for about 20 minutes
blissful raven
"statistics" in the medical field, especially areas like neurology, are all a shot in the dark
tame sparrow
while I was hooked to an eeg
You don't know dick about statistics in the medical field
blissful raven
I mean I have an idea
its always best guess.
and we are talking about the brain
not lung cancer or something
lavish umbra
I saw one guy fall over on a pile of king browns once (long neck beer bottles) Scray shit. I thought he was going to smash them and go to hospital.
errant forge
@winged sigil You only say that to me, not to people which talk about boring stuff that is more boring than me. Blocking you, I don't care about your messages either.
lavish umbra
Having a fit.
tame sparrow
Let me think, should I trust statistics compiled by trained professionals, or the word of some dude who isn't even a doctor.
beer bottles are surprisingly resilient
winged sigil
there are multiple people talking about the brain and stuff and you just come out of nowhere and say something totally unrelated
lavish umbra
Yes luckily
blissful raven
well, 1 doctor != compiled sources
winged sigil
though I guess that's better than BL's "ok" every 5min
tame sparrow
That's nut
winged sigil
used to be bl
blissful raven
there are like 10 people like that now
tame sparrow
I didn't say 1 doctor you absolute buffoon
blissful raven
quality has gone down
errant forge
@winged sigil But I agree with that, his "ok" is super annoying.
blissful raven
yeah well, you didn't really back up your argument at all either
do you actually have any statistics or are you just pulling this out of the air
is it a grad school thesis? is it reputable?
like, you haven't given any info.
tame sparrow
Sorry, did you want me to provide you with links? I can paste them all here if you want, but it would be easier for you to just google" prevalence of photosensitive epilepsy" and look at the numbers from reputable sites yourself
But in all honesty, I don't even owe you that, since you were the one making the claim that photosensitive epilepsy is very common, based only on your own anecdotal findings and not, you know, data.
tame sparrow
Really, how can I know that when you didn't provide any evidence? Isn't that the same thing you were just attempting to criticize me for?
void spade
Sounds like a fun discussion going on here
golden ivy
100% applies to fitness and nutrition, too, unfortunately
lavish umbra
It can be experienced by non epeleptics as well as epeleptics, that’s why they put so many warnings at the start of video games. So it isn’t uncommon
golden ivy
My job's gonna be really fun, I'll get to tell people they're wrong every fucking day
void spade
What are you guys talkin bout
golden ivy
KEK
tame sparrow
epilepsy and the validity of claims in the absence of evidence
blissful raven
you're citing this stuff from epilepsy.uk.org
which doesn't cite a source
looking at articles I'm seeing varying numbers
tame sparrow
Ogirinally based on boat saying that low resolution video can cause epileptic seizures (pretty sure he's wrong there) and then the topic moved on to flashing lights and framerates
blissful raven
which honestly is what I'd expect
golden ivy
What are they using, what's their sample sizes, which region are they in, who exactly is being tested, does it state any of that
distant siren
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lavish umbra
I said if you have poor nutrition it can
tame sparrow
"Information reviewed by Professor Stefano Seri MD, FRCP Professor of Clinical Neurophysiology School of Life and Health Sciences, Aston University."
blissful raven
well the UK study left a lot out as far as photosensitivity goes in their abstract
these guys report 10%
lavish umbra
Which happened to me so annectdotal
tame sparrow
Even at 10% of epileptics being photosensitive, that's still pretty uncommon rather than very common, which supports exactly what I stated already
blissful raven
I don't think the UK study found significant facts to be able to cite numbers in their abstract
my only point vad is that a hard number in this field is pretty much nonexistent
probably isn't 99%.
wouldn't make much sense to be that high with so many studies.
tame sparrow
And my point was that fuzzy numbers still exist and are more valuable than anecdotes
lavish umbra
But truthfully I went down and it was messed up, I blacked out and someone told me what happened
blissful raven
well then we are just making two separate points.
lavish umbra
Ok then, I’ll take your word for it
blissful raven
yeah boat, seizures aren't fun
tame sparrow
I vote we kill and eat boat to gain his powers of epilepsy
lavish umbra
Yeah I eat well now
blissful raven
I have often wished epilepsy on the CEOs of top pharma companies
they deserve it
should just come with the position
epilepsy, diabetes, obesity, all sorts of shit
but eh. they'd get a free pass either way I'm sure
tame sparrow
I think we need to bring back the guillotine. Start with the billionaires, work our way down to corrupt politicians and CEOs
"Oh, insulin is $600 now?"
void spade
Vad: we're talking about epilepsy
Me: scrolls down
Vad: bring back the guillotine
blissful raven
well, similar discussion
my meds with no insurance are like 2000 a month or so
$2000
welcome to America
lavish umbra
Yes but communism is a dirty word so where would we be without ceos, we need community but not communism. Like Tibet before China killed it.
No money just everyone working for the common good.
blissful raven
I mean, I'm more a dem-soc myself
a lot of people connect with socialism. politicians just try to make it sound scary so we can continue corporate slavery
at least in America(C)(R)(TM)
where you can be successful if you are a healthy, white, rich, connected, and a sellout
otherwise you are chaffe
tame sparrow
I'm not interested in communism, I want a socialist post-labor society. There are so many reasons to get rid of a ton of jobs that exist right now, and in the near future as automation becomes even more efficient more and more jobs are going to dry up. I think a universal basic income, universal healthcare, and basic living arrangements for everyone is not beyond the scope of our abilities, at least in the USA. Unfortunately, the govt would rather spend that money on blowing the shit out of foreign people, instead of helping american citizens.
void spade
But if we do that we can't pay for shooty blow up machines