I think someone posted a video actually
#off-topic-chat
fleet ivy
I would claim it's hard but not impossible. It's just pixel perfect
vale flicker
But it's damn near frame perfect
void spade
maybe even sub-pixel perfect
astral magnet
can someone just show me
vale flicker
Personally I found you need to have built atleast 4 AUs worth of speed to hit the half a press before the sprite begins to decelerate
void spade
that's what you're talking about right @vale flicker
vale flicker
I got the low one
void spade
I found out that hoops has 3 phases of shit, one for when your score is over 19, one for when it's above 29, and one for when it's above 49
void spade
Neat, it looks like once you hit 50 your score actually affects the formulas
{
_this238 = Engine.engine;
value12 = Math.cos((Number(Number(Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("trigonometric")) + 0.83)) / (50 / (Number(1 + Number(Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("HoopScore")))))) * (70 + (Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("HoopScore") - 50) / 2);
_this238.gameAttributes.set("HoopModX",value12);
_this238 = Engine.engine;
value12 = Math.sin((Number(Number(Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("trigonometric")) + 0.83)) / (50 / (Number(1 + Number(Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("HoopScore")))))) * (70 + (Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("HoopScore") - 50) / 2);
_this238.gameAttributes.set("HoopModY",value12);
}```
golden hawk
Last one I remember of chy was 70 and then he beat that with like 80 I think
void spade
really lava
golden hawk
I don´t think it´s that difficult. But after a while I just lack patience and fail ^^
vale flicker
That's most of us
If someone actually cared enough im sure they would watch mini lava go around in circles for 10 mins to get the perfect shot
But no one does
golden hawk
So my daily hoops score is either <5 or 70< ^^
I tried that. But after a few circles it just doesn´t get any better ^^
vale flicker
Mine range from 10-60
golden hawk
Either you know when to throw then or just fail ^^
golden hawk
I really tried for one time and got me a record of 60-something
61 it is
Just for the damage bonus ^^
mossy lily
I feel like 30+ is a hard limit for me 😄 If I'm somewhat patient, I get to 30 most of the time, unless I get some bullshit placement... but my top score in 60 days is 32 😛
golden hawk
Enough for the pet ^^
tame sparrow
Every fucking time I play hoops and get too jumpy when he starts circling around:
https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI
void spade
I was expecting the hoops code to be messier tbh
golden hawk
To be honest I prefer circling over just up and down ^^
Gives you the chance to get closer to the basket
foggy thorn
hmm
tame sparrow
kuaka your tests are today arent they
foggy thorn
yes
tame sparrow
good luck
foggy thorn
yes
tame sparrow
I believe in you
foggy thorn
I don't believe in myself
tame sparrow
Irrelevant
livid lava
then believe in yourself
foggy thorn
why
tame sparrow
because I'm your dad now and I said so
pliant schooner
what are ur tests for?
pliant schooner
what subject?
livid lava
and that is ?
livid lava
oh
livid lava
who wanna take tests
foggy thorn
someone
pliant schooner
tests are fun
tame sparrow
Hat Shrimp says you can do it
livid lava
ya if fail does not mean out of school
livid lava
8 days till my tests
golden hawk
I have 5 tests coming up and realistically I´ll pass 2 of them ^^ So you can pretty much ONLY do better!
tame sparrow
charge your phone
pliant schooner
focus on the tests that are important 🙂
foggy thorn
vad
pliant schooner
its like a sea venus fly trap
foggy thorn
to your eternity
golden hawk
Team Rocket!
pliant schooner
Too protect the world from devastation
livid lava
what is motivation and how do u get it
golden hawk
@livid lava Playing idle skilling 24/7
tame sparrow
Motivation is a fundamental force of the universe harvested exclusively from scallops.
livid lava
ya realistically I will pass mostly 2 of them too hah
foggy thorn
static can you check if tilling cards are passive
pliant schooner
void spade
Cascade RNG check: if([Random Value Between 1-100] < Number(Math.min((60 * PotionLV[146]) / (Number(PotionLV[146] + 175)),40)))
Posting cause @mossy lily was asking about it, this is in a for loop that I'm assuming runs for all of the rifts, but there doesn't seem to be anything that determines which rifts should be getting leveled or not (so if rift 2 gets leveled then only rift 1 should have a chance of getting a level from cascade)
pliant schooner
static is on it
void spade
huh
yeah
PotionLV[146] refers to cascade potion btw, obv
so part of me thinks that everytime a rift levels, EVERY rift gets a chance to level, not just the ones that are to the left of it, but would need to test it more
also @foggy thorn it might take me a bit cause work and stuff tho but I'll add it to my list
foggy thorn
it's fine
golden ivy
Ight good night mate
foggy thorn
there's a mini you
void spade
Bye funny!
foggy thorn
good luck making Celeste 2
void spade
You should also play Uphill. Very inspiring game
foggy thorn
thans
mossy lily
Leveled h2o rift to 465 without seeing a single level get added to gold rift... That's with a reported 50% chance on cascade
tame sparrow
Question about stencyl: If I downloaded the free version could I still compile to other platforms on a different compiler or would a bunch of shit break because of dependancies that wouldn't get built in
pliant schooner
yeah squirt i feel like that too i am only at 44% tho
mossy lily
The type casting in that line of code seems a bit weird imo, but I'm not sure how his potionlevels are stored
void spade
@mossy lily Like I said, it looks like the RNG check and levels are being applied to ALL rifts, not the just the ones to the left
PotionLV array starts at 0
so 146 == the value for Cascade potion
mossy lily
Yeah, but now we're not getting any levels at all
void spade
idk how, there's code to raise the level
pliant schooner
so the best thing u can do is level all the rift very fast at the start
void spade
I think so
mossy lily
Hmm
void spade
I still need to figure out a couple things
mossy lily
Assuming it works at all
Why does he cast it using Number() in the denominator but not the numerator?
If that somehow messed it up and the min() call always returned something really small, there would be no bonus levels
Maybe it's a misplaced parenthesis
void spade
Are you saying there should be another Number()?
or that
the first Number() should be just the numerator
mossy lily
Perhaps... or the first Number() should end after the numerator of the division
void spade
that's possible yeah
foggy thorn
someone give me money so I can get temtem
mossy lily
Right now it seems weird, like additions need a Number() but not multiplications
void spade
idk why he's wrapping the whole thing in Number() when he's already using it for the denominator
so I'll make a note of that
tame sparrow
is that the new pokemon-like mmo?
void spade
I think so vad
tame sparrow
$35 for an early access title that's an MMO? No fuckin thank you
pliant schooner
£350 is more like it
mossy lily
Static, do you see from what you looked at so far if the level-up from cascade (assuming it does happen), is done in a way where it would increase the exp requirement (like cosmics) or if it's a pure bonus level?
void spade
It literally just raises the value of the rift lvl by 1. I'd need to see how cosmics affect potions, I'll check it out
mossy lily
Hmm
foggy thorn
hmm
mossy lily
Ok, so the question then becomes -> Is the exp requirement calculated dynamically based on rift level or does it increment during some levelUp() function that is called when exp becomes full
I wish this code was available somewhere, I would much rather do some code digging than try to speculate all the time ^^
ripe olive
Just get Lava to hire you/kidnap him
void spade
It's available in the ISS server, and also if you decompile the swf or something
ripe olive
ooh the International Space Station?
foggy thorn
yes
void spade
Ironic that it's aliens server lol
ripe olive
Maybe that's the joke
frail warren
ok
ripe olive
Is ISS a cool kids club that I'm not in?
frail warren
cool kids club
foggy thorn
now you are
mossy lily
Idle Skilling Specialbois
frail warren
how does king get to teehee so fast
foggy thorn
he talk
frail warren
too much talk
foggy thorn
yes
frail warren
i has no time, because school exist
mossy lily
talk from school
foggy thorn
I'm talking from school
mossy lily
and I'm talking from work
foggy thorn
yeah
ripe olive
Jesus christ youtube, starting videos randomly in the background
pliant schooner
I am talking from bed
foggy thorn
lucky
mossy lily
Ok, I did get one or two bonus levels from cascade when I got the power rift, but waaaay fewer than expected (like 3 from hundreds of levels... definitely something fishy)
ripe olive
Lava Math!
pliant schooner
3 is better than 0
ripe olive
We could get a math bot for the discord to confirm if 3>0
mossy lily
Yeah. But with a 50% reported chance, it seems like a very unlikely outcome
pliant schooner
hello
foggy thorn
bye
pliant schooner
3>0 when 0 = 1, under the circumstances that when d(x) is divisible by d(y) and are not opposing intigers
ripe olive
Sure this isn't a cheap methbot instead?
tame sparrow
I'll oppose your integer
mossy lily
Just @ me, I'll mathbot you for most reasonably complex stuff
foggy thorn
@mossy lily I'm going to take my math exam give answers
mossy lily
@foggy thorn Sure, give me the questions
pliant schooner
Happy to be of service!
frail warren
hol up
mossy lily
Too blurry
fleet ivy
Too yellow
ripe olive
Asian math joke
frail warren
mossy lily
Haha
ripe olive
What is this? an image for ants?
mossy lily
Too blurry still
fleet ivy
Try with a camera this decade
mossy lily
Math for ants?!
ripe olive
Prove that limit blur blur blur
pliant schooner
Error code 314! Image rendering issue!
ripe olive
I hate proofs
ashen orbit
all ice creams complete 
mossy lily
Why can't you get a higher res picture? Don't you have the paper? 😛
At least get it in focus
frank moth
this game has an ice cream?
ripe olive
sweat?
fleet ivy
It was the only thing I could think of to put with the letters I had available lol
frail warren
better?
fleet ivy
mossy lily
Little better, but the limit is still blurry af
fleet ivy
I really hate watching anime in English when I originally watch them in Japanese
ripe olive
i guess it x->infinity
ashen orbit
oof, some dubs are good tho
ripe olive
or n rather
fleet ivy
The slime dub is not
frail warren
shit g2g
mossy lily
more likely n, yeah
ashen orbit
reincarnated as a slime?
ashen orbit
lol, haven't watched dub, so can't say
I'll trust your word on it
but yeah
poorly dubbed stuff is disappointing
fleet ivy
Watch the first 5 minutes so you can feel my pain
solemn estuary
Hey everyone
solemn estuary
How's it going
ashen orbit
what do you think about shield hero's dub tho?
going alright, just finally going home, yourself jee?
fleet ivy
No idea. I only gave that a try because funimation only had the English version lol. Going back to hulu now
5 minutes was enough
Gave me "believe it!" Naruto flashbacks
tame sparrow
The slime tensei dub was not bad at all compared to some other recent dubs
ashen orbit
lol, hey if you want a reliable anime source, use kickassanime, fair warning tho, lots of hentai and girls in your area and top 5 secrets for a better sex life adds
tame sparrow
I mean, it was no cowboy bebop but it wasn't terrible
ashen orbit
but the Anime is reliable and top notch
fleet ivy
Lol, I have so many subscriptions to streaming sites. I use my tv to watch anime most of the time
I use uhhhh
ashen orbit
like, i can find Anime on it that i can't on crunchy or that funanimation wouldn't let me watch
tame sparrow
Dudes save some krill for the rest of us
mossy lily
Ugh, dubbing... 🤢
ripe olive
I think I found the answer on math exchange
fleet ivy
ripe olive
oh, they're gone
fleet ivy
When I can't find what I want
ashen orbit
Dió!!
lol fair, i use either crunchy, or when i don't want to wait or can't find what i want kickassanime
tame sparrow
ashen orbit
lol fair, same with me and school
mossy lily
also disgusting?
solemn estuary
Is funimation free
ashen orbit
^
solemn estuary
I've been looking at dragon ball series and funimation done the English dub
fleet ivy
Why the fuck does funimation only have the English version of slime
tame sparrow
Did funimation publish the original japanese airing?
solemn estuary
of?
fleet ivy
I'm not sure
They own everything though
And the Japanese option is there so they have it. Just not for my region I guess
solemn estuary
That sucks dudes
tame sparrow
Wow, region locking is horseshit
solemn estuary
I don't think I can get funimation being in the uk can i
fleet ivy
I've been thinking of getting one just so I can watch dr who on Netflix
It's on the Europe one iirc
tame sparrow
Fuck region lockers, just pirate it
solemn estuary
Argh
mossy lily
Yay, 5 
cool cash
fleet ivy
My tv doesn't enjoy pirated stuff :p
tame sparrow
I wasn't talking to you dudes
fossil badge
dudes you know when next update is?
tame sparrow
But also if you can't watch pirated content on your tv you're doing it fucking wrong
fleet ivy
solemn estuary
Dudes, I'm interested in what you mean your tv doesn't enjoy pirated stuff
mossy lily
Your tv shouldn't know any more than "it's a video signal"... right? 😛
fleet ivy
Idk, he's bug fixing. Which is something he clearly hates lol. So it could be weeks @fossil badge
solemn estuary
Most smart tvs can be unlocked
fossil badge
ty bud
mossy lily
In what way are they locked though? Mine plays pirated video files just fine
tame sparrow
Ugh, smart TVs are a scourge. Better option 100% of the time is to slap a raspberry pi on there
fleet ivy
I watch legit stuff on my tv and "borrowed" stuff on my computer
tame sparrow
and to take the back off your smart tv and clip the wifi antenna off
solemn estuary
Is it that the tv doesn't run the file?
solemn estuary
Or
neon edge
yet so far
mossy lily
Idk... sounds like a pretty stupid TV if you need to do that shit 😛
solemn estuary
Kappe I've been doing pachi for a while and never got anything over pair
I chromecast stuff from my pc to tv if I want to do it that way
I have no streaming issue
fleet ivy
More importantly I'm at 900m pet levels now. 100m more and I can ignore pet leveling forever
tame sparrow
There are so many cheap and excellent ways to get pirated content on your tv that you really have no excuse
fleet ivy
Mine is more an issue of laziness than anything vad
solemn estuary
Vadhakara people tell me they are scared but home cinema is legal its distribution which is illegal
mossy lily
Download movie to pc -> Share file to network -> Open video viewing app on Smart TV -> Play
🤷♂️
solemn estuary
Same as downloading netflix
tame sparrow
I have no need to keep the shit I watch around forever so I use a lot of pirate streams. When I do want to download something, I have a vpn so my ISP can't forward me nasty letters
solemn estuary
I don't think your ISP would ever send you a letter
mossy lily
I have friends who have gotten ISP letters for torrenting stuff
tame sparrow
Squirt, you just have to find the right sites
solemn estuary
Where are you squirt
tame sparrow
for streaming
mossy lily
Sweden
tame sparrow
I have received a nasty letter from the ISP before, when I had my VPN misconfigured
Actually it was for fucking Rage 2. Ended up not being worth the time it took to download, AND I got a letter from my ISP over it
mossy lily
Yeah, I'm sure there are good ones. Don't really need to though. Can just pay $2 to stream most things from google play or something... in the odd situation where I need to pirate something, I can download the film in a few minutes and just watching it as above. Delete when done if I never want to watch it again
solemn estuary
I don't use vpns and never been contracted by my isp
mossy lily
Typically you won't be unless you sit around seeding newly released movies on public trackers for long periods of time
pliant schooner
gotta get that vpn and proxy
tame sparrow
Well, actually it wasn't my vpn that was misconfigured, it was my torrent client. When the VPN client crashed the torrent client kept going on the bare connection since I hadn't set up a firewall rule to stop it from doing that.
pliant schooner
just go on pirate bay 🙂
tame sparrow
BenJee don't be giving out bad advice, I've seen people get letters for movies that are a decade old. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it won't happen to others
If you're going to torrent, you need a VPN
solemn estuary
I don't think so
mossy lily
Probably depends a lot on where you live, what ISP you have, what you're torrenting and from where
solemn estuary
My dad has been torrenting for ever and large amounts never caught so I do the same
Virgin
He downloads far too much...
mossy lily
Like, if you're American, I bet you need to be super careful compared to over here, with how shitty all the ISPs seem, and how lawmakers don't seem to care about end users at all
pliant schooner
has he attached a vpn to the router
thats like an extreme way to stay proctected all the time 🙂
solemn estuary
My dad doesn't know anything about vpns he asked me once but I said not worth it
mighty shadow
So, ||Legend 27 is person who's account was in intro, right?||
tame sparrow
Legend27 is a meme
mighty shadow
Hm
mossy lily
(at least over here), you get warned plenty before they actually take any action though, unless you're a massive distributor or something
solemn estuary
I can understand that as sweden was the main place for piratebay before
mighty shadow
I just delivered lava ice cream, and thought that it's a part of lore
autumn copper
Legend27 is garbage
pliant schooner
yeah the legend27
tame sparrow
mighty shadow
I see.
tardy crescent
potions are just star warping objects, change my mind
mighty shadow
I'm kind of disappointed that it was meme instead of lore
tame sparrow
Maybe you should post something relevant to the discussion instead
mighty shadow
But, ok
tame sparrow
@mighty shadow sorry for the disappointment lol
mighty shadow
+[-1Q], epic
tardy crescent
lel it's okay to have 8 conversations running at the same time
mighty shadow
Again, I never heard about Legend27 before, I thought it was person from intro
mossy lily
We need more conversations
mighty shadow
When there are fake welcome back
I thought it was related to him? Would kake sense
mossy lily
Shitty winter, eh? All the snow will be gone in a week if it stays this warm
void spade
The IS intro is a reference to that yeah
mighty shadow
It was reference to mod
fleet ivy
There are 27 mods, one for each rule on the server. Legend had it if you disobey a rule, that specific mod will smite you through your screen personally.
void spade
which rule is your Dudes
fleet ivy
I'm the only one allowed to complain
void spade
I see I see
pliant schooner
ha rules are made to be avoided in fun ways
solemn estuary
But there is like 7 server rules
void spade
there's only 4 in the FAQ
fleet ivy
If I had to monitor the server for people complaining I'd have to quit my job
pliant schooner
The27modlegends
void spade
there'd be like
solemn estuary
Who is the mod who smites mods who makes up stuff
void spade
probably no one left
fleet ivy
Is that more complaining Ben?!
pliant schooner
Zeus mod
fleet ivy
Pew pew
void spade
@solemn estuary That's Seph but he's never here to enforce it
fleet ivy
Did it kick you from chat when I muted you Ben? Lol
solemn estuary
Me?
fleet ivy
Yeah
solemn estuary
I've never been muted
fleet ivy
You were like 2 minutes ago, as a joke
solemn estuary
Oh
void spade
I think muting just blocks out the chat message input
solemn estuary
rip
fleet ivy
One of the mutes makes it to where you can't even see general chat
Let me know if that's true Ben :p
solemn estuary
I saw it the whole time
fleet ivy
Can you still see this?
solemn estuary
Wow that was a long time
fleet ivy
Could you still see general chat?
solemn estuary
No still can't see previous messages
solemn estuary
Nope
fleet ivy
Hmm
solemn estuary
All the roles on the side are blank too
fleet ivy
Good to know at least
mighty shadow
Mhm. Nice legend
solemn estuary
I feel abused
void spade
lmaooo
fleet ivy
.> why the hell is this guy named like me
mighty shadow
Which rule you represent?
fleet ivy
I believe you mean tested lucky
golden ivy
Dummy
fleet ivy
Despite the popularity of the trend, he's still unknown
Ironically
That word is spelled so badly
frail cedar
Ban bray
fleet ivy
Bray banned himself
golden ivy
I did?
frail cedar
Oh damn
fleet ivy
You quit the server
void spade
^
golden ivy
So I didn't ban myself
tame sparrow
Whehn the doujin has 18 pages and 40 tags >.>
fleet ivy
Hey Ashley
frail cedar
Hey dudes
mossy lily
Bro
fleet ivy
Sweet
frail cedar
What
fleet ivy
He said bro,I said sweet
frail cedar
Oh
mossy lily
Nice
frail cedar
There's spiders in my eyes
golden ivy
Eat them
tame sparrow
YOU WAN FIE HUNDID DORRAH?
fleet ivy
Wouldn't they be Eyeders?
mossy lily
Haven't watched Dude, Where's my Car? since like... high school
frail cedar
Yes, there are eyeders in my spies
mossy lily
I only have crow's feet, Ashley here taking it to the next level with spider webs
pliant schooner
ashley u want a gif of spiders coming out of peoples eyes
void spade
pls no
frail cedar
Spider web is like spaghetti, but impossible to rip
golden ivy
no
fleet ivy
Lucky will probably mute you, just saying :p
long glen
Do it. No balls.
frail cedar
CHY
fleet ivy
Lmao
pliant schooner
so a mod is telling me to do it 🙂
frail cedar
It's my big tiddy goth boyfriend
golden ivy
Ew
fleet ivy
Chy is the new lava I see
golden ivy
Whom?
fleet ivy
You ran out of ideas when typing that third one didn't you lol
frail cedar
No
fleet ivy
Should have said two points
frail cedar
Definitely not
fleet ivy
You played yourself homie
void spade
- Plays Terraria
- Fixed my save
- Majoras Mask PFP
long glen
You forgot #4: ghosts anyone who brings up things he doesn't want to talk about.
frail cedar
That's my third point
fleet ivy
Here's your third point Ashley
golden ivy
- Hasn't banned me
- Hasn't muted me
- Doesn't bully me
fleet ivy
frail cedar
Oofem
mossy lily
And here I am, trying my best not to become a big tiddy boyfriend... should I just let go and convince my gf it's for the better?
pliant schooner
new pb 1 sec
frail cedar
Yes squirt
fleet ivy
Gross
frail cedar
Follow chy's example
mossy lily
Right. Time to ditch the diet soda
fleet ivy
You have to be goth squirt
red cobalt
Squirting and Big Tiddies, what did I walk into?
golden ivy
Ashley
frail cedar
Ayy
golden ivy
That's what
red cobalt
Makes sense.
golden ivy
Yes
mossy lily
Idk about goth, but I'm bald and have a cat... so?
fleet ivy
Cat lady
mossy lily
Maybe makes up for it
golden ivy
no Ashley pls don't
frail cedar
Sorry
frail cedar
Became snow for like two seconds
fleet ivy
Is he still muted? Lol
I haven't seen him in a while
Also snow posted a picture iirc. Nsfw talk isn't against the server
To an extent
golden ivy
The picture was like creepy tho
tame sparrow
I wonder who the first person was to can ravioli
frail cedar
Ban NSFW gang
void spade
@tame sparrow asking the real questions
mossy lily
Nsfw talk isn't really as bad though... unless you do TTS
tame sparrow
I ate a can of ravioli for the first time in well over a decade last night, and it got me thinking
long glen
Having a discussion about NSFW things usually isn't punished. Would not recommend starting an explicit RP session though.
fleet ivy
I mean people talk about hentai and shit all the time in here
mossy lily
Like, I can get away with having a chat app open on one of my screens while working, but if a bunch of titties or gore shows up, I'd have to stop hanging out during the day 😛
tame sparrow
When the doujin is only 18 pages but has 40 tags
mossy lily
Nobody will read the text anyway
woven apex
red cobalt
naked bob fancic?
golden ivy
Yes
red cobalt
fanfic
pliant schooner
woow spicy
tame sparrow
Can confirm, have no job and am unemployed
mossy lily
Can also buy a $2000 tv that doesn't complain if I play pirated shit on it 😛 Job worth
tame sparrow
What kind of idiot spends $2000 on a TV in today's market
golden ivy
Ikr
red cobalt
Can confirm, also have no job and unemployed.
tame sparrow
That is going to be a $500 tv in 2 years
golden ivy
Just buy a PC and netflix
fleet ivy
golden ivy
Gg
fleet ivy
Look at his sexy little face
tame sparrow
Meanwhile I have a TV from 10 years ago that cost me $200 and still works great
fleet ivy
Finally 1b
mossy lily
It was last year's model. 55" OLED smart tv 😄 I thought it was a bargain
pliant schooner
why is he named after an appartment huh
tame sparrow
Well if its oled then
mossy lily
The others I was looking at were much more expensive
long glen
Why would I spend $2000 on a TV when I can get a new computer setup for under $800? And that's with Sweden's electronics prices, mind you.
fleet ivy
I just bought a 65in lg tv for $600 lol
livid lava
my parents would do that
fleet ivy
Why would you spend 2k
tame sparrow
for the OLEDs
mossy lily
Electronics are so cheap in Murica anyway
livid lava
ya murica
pliant schooner
dont buy that stuff
livid lava
and their electro
pliant schooner
get the good stuff
livid lava
so like I was "studying" for 2h and I did not study anything ? I was just like, dying ? and idk if I should drop this subject and take in next year
mossy lily
I mean, it's all relative to income levels anyway. So just comparing straight prices doesn't get us anywhere
frail cedar
^
mossy lily
Like, most things are so cheap in the US, but median incomes are also super duper low
livid lava
but low prices in murica and high pay
mossy lily
Some people make a lot, usually not from salaries though 😛
pliant schooner
high taxed and debts tho 🙂
mossy lily
We do have higher taxes, yes, but I feel that's a net gain with how everything is free
pliant schooner
have fun spending lots of money to get an education
pliant schooner
i know in poland its %100 free
long glen
Ah yes, having a $200k yearly salary and a $5m "bonus". Classic.
mossy lily
Bonuses, or just owning shares etc 😛
livid lava
ya... that is another thing, like, u have the money to spend even if ur in debt
pliant schooner
here where i am i only have to pay 10%
mossy lily
Yeah, I got out of university completely debt free, with nothing paid by parents etc (except tax)
livid lava
like having 1k month extra ? wtf is that 1k is montly pay here
We only pay when we are 27+
u have 7 years do to bc and Mgr. / Ing.
mossy lily
Going to see a doctor costs $20, no matter what you do while you're there... But since that's a lot of money for healthcare (haha), there is a yearly cost cap of like $110, after which everything is free.
tame sparrow
When the end comes, I'm going to eat all the people that own shares in things first
livid lava
we have it for free.. there are some minor stuff like 2 dollars for something but other then that if u work and have insurance
void spade
damn @mossy lily that's less than what I have to pay using my dads military health insurance
mossy lily
You say free, Kvetko, but then you mention insurance 🤷♂️
livid lava
but that insurance is paid by the company you work for most of the times
red cobalt
I wonder what having my kidneystone removed would have cost in the US
long glen
Would have cost you your kidney.
red cobalt
😛
pliant schooner
thats like $200k
blazing helm
what's the fastest possible time to ascension?
mossy lily
So it means you'll get less salary, and if you're out of a job, you're screwed if you get sick?
tame sparrow
I had a kidney stone in the US, it cost about $12k
mossy lily
Geez
frail warren
crunch
livid lava
no, u do not get less salary and if ur out of a job, yeah you are screwed if u do not pay
which is like 80 dollars per month for healt and social insurance
blazing helm
I've managed to ascend in about 15 seconds, but you can probably go faster with an autoclicker
frail warren
imagine having a candy made out of kidney stones
tame sparrow
And that was with passing it myself. That included the emergency room fee, getting seen by a doctor, getting a CAT scan of my kidneys, and being on IV fluids for about 4 hours.
frail warren
nerds
mossy lily
Obv you do get less, since a company values your contribution at a certain price, and they have to take out of that to pay your health insurance
I was paid $600 after I hit my head walking into a pillar as a student, since I was left with a small scar on my forehead... so they wanted me to get some money to make up for it
😄
frail cedar
THAAAATS why you're so ugly
livid lava
600
Czech republic, hey, there is 50 dollars if u want that
red cobalt
$12k?
golden ivy
Well in US you have one of the highest average salaries and you pay less taxes.
red cobalt
That's.. a lot.
mossy lily
Highest average, low median afaik 😛
golden ivy
Median is not a good calculation
frail cedar
Hellow, my name is Wisconsin person. I'm dirt poor, let the argument ensue
golden ivy
For example in my country we have no minimum wage
frail warren
none of the calculations are good
mossy lily
Average is a terrible way to represent something that is extremely unevenly distributed
livid lava
no Squirt, u do not get less money, it is done by law, thay have to do that, every job needs to play those stuff if u work for them
frail warren
like america in the 1920's
golden ivy
So Median calculation is horrible
tame sparrow
If I ever meet a billionaire I will unhinge my jaw and consume him on the spot
frail warren
why
red cobalt
Still, I suppose $12k is a lot cheaper than it could have been.
frail cedar
I choked on pop tart
golden ivy
The median in US would be extremely high lmao
pearl oak
I mean... Vad has a good point
mossy lily
Yeah, Kvetko, same here. Still, when deciding if it's worth hiring someone, they take into account the cost of hiring vs how much they think it will make them to have a person on board. If they didn't have to pay that thing, they would need to compete with higher wages to get good employees... so you get paid less.
long glen
What if the billionare is into vore, vad?
golden ivy
Some people earn hundreds of millions per year while some maybe earn 8 dollars an hour. Median is just not a reliable way to look at things like these.
frail warren
doctor: so why are you here today?
old guy: my back hurts when i do this
doctor: ok don't do it that'll be $50k after insurance
tame sparrow
Then he'll die happy
frail warren
and eat him
mossy lily
if 100 people make billions per year and 100'000'000 people make 100 per year, I think median is a more telling measure than average
ripe olive
kaumo, do you still need the answer to that maths question?
golden ivy
No it isn't because the median is calculated of the middle value between the lowest and highest
mossy lily
No
golden ivy
Will the average is a sum of all divided by the amount of recipients
mossy lily
It's the value of the person in the middle
frail cedar
Grade school maths, everyone
foggy thorn
test
golden ivy
No it isn't.
mossy lily
Yes it is ^^
frail cedar
Median, or mean
foggy thorn
mean
frail cedar
They're different things
golden ivy
You take the middle between the lowest and highest
pearl oak
Median is middle. Mean is average
ripe olive
pearl oak
Woooo. I pass 3rd grade math!
mossy lily
@golden ivy Your explanation fits none of them, I'm not sure where you got it from
red cobalt
No asylum pets at all since pets released and been spending crazy amounts of keys on getting the gorshank pet. "Meh, I need traces from emigdala anyway".. first kill.. Emigdala pet.
wtf
mossy lily
The median of [9, 7, 2, 1, 1] is 2
foggy thorn
yes
pearl oak
The mean is 4
foggy thorn
probably also yes
golden ivy
But how would the median be a good way of calculating
mossy lily
so is the median of [1000000000, 7, 2, 1, 1]... so the median is pretty good at showing how the "average" person lives, rather than using the average of their number
ripe olive
kuaka the uncertain mathbot
mossy lily
because the extremes don't skew the median
mossy lily
so you get a look at someone who is more typical. It's great to find some sort of normalcy measure when things aren't linearly distributed (like wealth)
golden ivy
Sucks for her, I enjoyed it
pearl oak
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-average-income-in-usa-family-household-history-3306189
Average Income in USA: Definition, Family, Household, History
long glen
I shall create a society where 51% make $1m a year and 49% make $0. Then I can skew both values!
pearl oak
There y'all go. For those interested
mossy lily
Hahah
golden ivy
I shall create a society where 1% have 99% of the wealth and the 99% have 1% of the wealth
red cobalt
oh wait
golden ivy
Than I shall kill all the citizens
ripe olive
pearl oak
Chy will sadly make that society and fall in the 49% range.
long glen
Bray's a time traveller confirmed, we live in his society.
frail warren
hello
golden ivy
And one day I will rise
frail warren
bray
golden ivy
End my enemies
End my friend and my foe
I just don't think median is reliable, while it's a counter for what you consider to be the extremes. You get a clearer picture from average
frail warren
why do you have no rank?
pearl oak
Bray. No you won't.
frail warren
bray
golden ivy
Just death
pearl oak
That takes work.
frail warren
ok
golden ivy
There's extremes on both sides and they should also be accounted for in a scenario of actually figuring out the truth
frail warren
i guess
pearl oak
And knowledge
golden ivy
Because they matter as much as the others do
Humans will be gone and animals with thrive
frail warren
yes
mossy lily
Yeah, but average takes extremes on one side into account a lot more than the other side
golden ivy
I will return each 1000000 years to cutoff the chain of evolution ending future humans
frail warren
you aren't judgement
golden ivy
Of course but they should still be accounted for
Yes
Humans will be gone and animals with thrive
mossy lily
Sure
golden ivy
I should kill them anyway
red cobalt
What about lizardmen
frail warren
what if you had an entire society with everyone below the poverty line, but there was 1 person with like all the money
tame sparrow
Why is there an argument going on over basic math when you could just google up what economists say is the best way to determine what an average citizen looks like financially
red cobalt
Or Pug Humanoids
frail warren
mean would fail, median and mode would work
long glen
FMJ, I won't fall into that range, I will choose it. [insert speech about enlightenment and worldy possessions here]
golden ivy
Yes I'm a Buddhist monk now, I can't have possesions, including roles.
mossy lily
But if 10 people in a country are trillionaires, it doesn't say much about "what it's like living in that country", but it brings the mean wealth up by a lot
pearl oak
But knowing the sad karmic truth. You'll fall somehow into that
golden ivy
Karmic is a cool word
tame sparrow
One day I'm going to wear the skin of Jeff Bezos
foggy thorn
ok
ripe olive
Basing anything on a single number from a data set probably ain't the best idea
golden ivy
One day I'm going to return the skin I borrowed from Bill Gates
red cobalt
One day I'm gonna wear Vadhakara's face as a hat.
frail warren
fueled by amazon boxes and wood from the amazon forest
tame sparrow
And the backpack I carry his bones in will be made from the skin of Elon Musk
frail warren
yes
mossy lily
Yeah, clearly there is no single number that can describe the state of a... state
tame sparrow
The threads in the outfit will be the tendons of Bill Gates
golden ivy
I like tendons
tame sparrow
And my mighty steed shall be Warren Buffet
golden ivy
I can give you my extra tendons from Bill if you want
frail warren
vad is insane
golden ivy
Of course it would bring up the wealth a lot but I guess it would actually be a good thing to know that you would earn less then the 'average salary' so that you quit McDonald's and actually try and pursue something
I ate the organs but left the tendons for just this reason
tame sparrow
I will use this gear to hunt down the rest of the world's exploiters and consume them all
frail warren
consum
pearl oak
Hey @golden ivy there's actually some places that pay less than McDonald's
tame sparrow
it may take many years, but it shall be done
golden ivy
But still less than the average I would assume
void spade
Hey guys, that mastery task for building broken daggers is bugged right? has to be trinkets?
frail warren
i'm looking forward to that
golden ivy
I never worked at McDonald's so I wouldn't know
solemn estuary
Hey
pearl oak
McDonald's as of a couple years ago has been paying there employees about $10/hr in states where minimum is $7.25
frail warren
yes, it'st trinkests
long glen
c(ons)um. I'm very mature. 😂
pearl oak
Neither have I.
mossy lily
I mean... sure. Knowing more helps. But if 8/10 people are at McDonalds levels of salary, then that's the number I want to find out when I'm looking for how most people in that country lives... I don't really care if there's a billionaire skewing the numbers
golden ivy
I started working when I was 17 as a software developer
void spade
wtf? It looks fine in the code
void spade
Hey Bray
livid lava
I need 5 levels of exp. to be junior software developer
golden ivy
Hey static
livid lava
McDonalds is shit
livid lava
oh god never again
golden ivy
ur looking sexy today
pearl oak
I work as a chef. Lol
void spade
have you messed with your save at all? or just looked at values?
golden ivy
McDonald's in Canada is considerably nicer
pearl oak
Hey Ashley. What's up girl
frail cedar
What's good server folk
void spade
I don't have mine available and I need someone to tell me what the "SmithingItemLevels" attribute looks like
foggy thorn
que
void spade
because that mastery task shouldn't be bugged from what I'm seeing so I'm confused
tame sparrow
kuaka this manga is sad as fuck
foggy thorn
yes
golden ivy
If the median salary was shown I don't think people would be trying to pursue things as much
foggy thorn
I like it
tame sparrow
kuaka is master sadboi
ripe olive
sure there isn't an off by 1 error or something static?
golden ivy
People in their 20s would be talking about how they make way above that and feel entitled enough to not care enough
mossy lily
Median makes more sense to show, since it shows you clearly if you're in the upper or lower half of the salary ranking
foggy thorn
I'm probably going to read the novel as well
tame sparrow
Anyways, back to the important question I asked earlier, who the fuck was the first person to can ravioli, and why aren't they enshrined in history as the greatest person to ever live?
frail cedar
I'm just gonna tl;dr the entire convo about money making, because I'm broke. I should definitely be whoring myself out but i have standards
void spade
@ripe olive idk how that would happen, this is an attribute called for all other smithing item related stuff
mossy lily
In a country with a few very wealthy people, you could have 95% of people be below the average salary, which gives them a false impression of being poorer than they really are relative to everyone else
frail cedar
Who was the first person to milk a cow
golden ivy
Well it's good if they have the impression that they're poorer because then they've got a goal
long glen
Working from memory, I believe it looks something like this Static. s18SmithingItemLevels:ad1000000000.0d1000000000.0 ... d1000000000.0h
pliant schooner
why dont u kvetko
mossy lily
A goal of becoming one of the 0.2% who are super rich might not be a good thing
golden ivy
You don't want someone that is 25 to be like
"Yeah I earn more than the median so I can just go and be useless"
livid lava
because guys are not paid that much
livid lava
well... and I am not sexy nor have 20 cm pp
but If I was pretty girl and did not wanna work
golden ivy
Well a good goal would to be at least a contributing person and if you earn more than most people you probably feel like that was already achieved enough to the point where you don't care
mossy lily
That's not what happens. People always want more stuff, no matter if they're #2 or #10000000 on the ranking
frail warren
UBI
livid lava
where is my super rich grandpa
golden ivy
I don't much at all tbh
mossy lily
Anyway, I'm not talking about a value that people can use to set the ambitions of their lives, I'm talking about finding out how "most/normal" people are living right now
foggy thorn
That's not what happens. People always want more stuff, no matter if they're #2 or #10000000 on the ranking
I can confirm
frail warren
but that's unsustainable
tiny saffron
Go and be homeless , best way to live free
foggy thorn
am #2 and I want #1 >:(
livid lava
normal people ? mostly paycheck to paycheck
frail warren
kick alien
tiny saffron
@livid lava
https://youtu.be/hftwNMQPMbk
pearl oak
Create a kuaka channel and just spam it.
livid lava
I do dumpster diving
pearl oak
Then delete the channel
livid lava
but Czech Republic + laws + etc.
foggy thorn
if we could only make channels :/
tiny saffron
That works too but this is not as bad as that
mossy lily
So stuff like median wage, mean (!) hours needed working per week to support yourself etc etc are way better than average wage
golden ivy
Czech Republic is nice
pearl oak
The spam off topic.
golden ivy
I'll be there in 2 weeks
livid lava
study or job ?
void spade
well here I'll just post the relevant parts as a snippet
...
push(o24);
if(pop() >= 100)
{
o27 = Engine.engine.getGameAttribute("MasteryTasksComplete")[49];
...```Or Portuguese
golden ivy
Woman
tiny saffron
But new york has lot of stuff for free like Amazon store
livid lava
oh
tiny saffron
Da fuq is that
void spade
Maybe the value of Copper Trinket is getting pushed somewhere?
foggy thorn
why is there so much push and pop
void spade
It's the code for the Craft Broken Dagger to lv. 100 mastery task completion
ripe olive
because lava likes poppingamer
void spade
the relevant parts
golden ivy
@livid lava you from Prague?
void spade
@foggy thorn it's Haxe stuff, which means stencyls fault
tiny saffron
Don't fix it just leave it as it is
mossy lily
Boss left office, I've done my obligatory 15 minutes afterwards, time to go home o/
tiny saffron
Is that C?
void spade
No, actionscript
livid lava
ya I am from Prague
golden ivy
Ah she's from Ceske Budejovice
livid lava
oh České Budějovice najs
void spade
Chy do you think maybe the value for Trinket is getting pushed somewhere and doesn't get popped? So when the pop() should be getting dagger lvl it's actually pulling value of trinket?
ripe olive
are we indexing from 0 or 1?
ripe olive
animals
long glen
kuaka, it's a basic obfuscation technique for actionscript. Instead of using registers you look at what order they're read from/written to and turn it into a stack.
tiny saffron
So stencyl uses C for scripts i guess ?
golden ivy
The ones that start at 1 are devils work
foggy thorn
oh ok
ripe olive
are you able to make changes and run it?
livid lava
there is Budějovický Budvar - beer, town beer - Samson haha and Koh-i-noor pretty nice town
golden ivy
Budweiser Budvar
tiny saffron
Ohh haxe never used that , don't want to learn more languagesssss
golden ivy
Budweiser Budvar is nice
void spade
so two of the scripts are missing a function
tiny saffron
You drink oil ?
foggy thorn
kvet never drinks water
tiny saffron
Nvm that was UAE
void spade
I have no idea if you can compile this actionscript with the Haxe functions in it
livid lava
not having beer today, I should study, but it is going to be the same thing as last night
tiny saffron
So Germany, Czech , Russia every cold country = beer
golden ivy
@tiny saffron Russia not so much
livid lava
not russia
tiny saffron
No beer wew , i hope you don't die
livid lava
they mostly drink cheap vodkas
livid lava
I would not say so......
tiny saffron
I prefer wine , beer is like so sour kadwa
golden ivy
Czech is Def top 3
golden ivy
No that's Belgium
livid lava
😩
golden ivy
Dude clearly you haven't tried enough Belgian beers
tiny saffron
I thought it's good for chocolates or was that Switzerland
golden ivy
Both
livid lava
I mostly drink only German and Czech pilsners and craft beers
had like 2 belgium beers
golden ivy
Yeah Belgian is a bit too expensive for Czechs lol
livid lava
but I had like 7 more czech before so I did not really enjoyed it
golden ivy
Beer in Czech is 1/3 to 1/6 the price of Belgian beer
tiny saffron
So beer pros what beer do you recommend to me ,i just drink occasionally
livid lava
not piss water
golden ivy
Jupiler is a good starter
livid lava
where do you live
tiny saffron
I drink from a brand called heneiken
golden ivy
And for cheap beer I'd say Perlenbecher
livid lava
oh
tiny saffron
India currently
golden ivy
Or Grolsch