Wuthering Waves

[scenic condor]

you can do

phrolo jianxin denia

[toxic nebula]

[scenic condor]

denia field time is so short that she might be able to fit in jianxin long ass rot

for the fat lib buff outro

if you cant then just do denia jianxin flex (yangyang fast rot+ free energy outro on moonlit)

cammy sanhua verina works, not gonna clear endgame cuz old and weak but works on paper

phrolo outro into any havoc or heavy% unit also works

[toxic nebula]

so theres powercreep in this game?

[scenic condor]

yeah?

which gacha doesnt have any

[toxic nebula]

I thought there was none with all the wuwa glaze

[scenic condor]

in its 3rd year

[toxic nebula]

ngl

[scenic condor]

i mean

depends

i still clear endgame with jiyan just fine

but thats cuz he has his current best team

i couldnt do that with fakin mortefi

cammy was never too good to begin with

especially on s0

and she didnt rlly get any support

cuz roccia is a joke

so cammy is only passable with vertical

s3r1 cammy should be able to clear with sanhua verina still

with double intro

[toxic nebula]

[scenic condor]

so in this sense the powercreep aint that bad

[toxic nebula]

rip the 1.0 goat

[scenic condor]

the who

cammy aint 1.0

[toxic nebula]

I mean 1.1

[scenic condor]

1.4*

she was the last char of 1.x

[toxic nebula]

yeah I dont remember atp

[scenic condor]

anw

do you intend to play

or tourist and will quit in a week

cuz then i wont bother any further

[toxic nebula]

idk honestly this augusta glaze story is not holding me right now

atleast iuno is cool

[scenic condor]

she is

[toxic nebula]

I like her oujo sama vibes

[scenic condor]

her personal story was kinda mid cuz too long

but as a character shes great

gameplay great too

and shes still very strong

with the right teams

even as a dps

anw when u decided what ur goals are and who u want a team for u can ask me

phrolo denia cammy is not gonna be a good team i can guarantee that

i'd look into phrolo vertical invest

give her whoever leftovers

and do denia separately

and bury cammy

[open copper]

I find it easier to keep up with Wuwa’s powercreep, compared to other games.

Except Whiwa.

[limber swan]

Endstate is kinda demanding too

Requiring 3+ teams

[scenic condor]

3+ is vague

i actually wonder whats a realistic team count to max asterite score

with like s0r1 teams

[scenic condor]

ok so i checked

s3 denia main dps

is about as good as s0 cammy

much easier and faster to play tho

cuz s0 cammy is godawful

with no poise

so overall i'd put s3 denia over s0 cammy for ease of use

[last nest]

Denia is just not supposed to be man dps

[scenic condor]

i know

but some ppl just simp waifu and think anything works

[last nest]

Her animations tho are so gorgeus, really magic girl

[scenic condor]

not really

dark form is hardly magic girl

and you mostly see that

pink form is amazing but you barely see it

and it's a useless form

that doesnt really do anything

which MAJOR sad

[last nest]

You sure

[scenic condor]

yeah

[last nest]

I mean dark magical girl is a staple for a reason

[scenic condor]

i guess

idunno im just really sad

[last nest]

(even in shows like precure which is legit aimed at little girls they sneak them in lol)

[scenic condor]

cuz i really wanted her to be better

ofc im happy that shes making luuk a lot smoother

and im freed from fucking lynae

but i would have loved to play with HER

especially pink form

i care less for dark form

[last nest]

I am happy I can retire Lynaea from Amy team now

[scenic condor]

im retiring amy

along with lynae

probably

outside matrix

in matrix ofc i need her

but i dont think i'll ever play either of them again

outside that

they both feel awful

[last nest]

Lynaea has her usses ergo - Being in Iuno maindps team

[scenic condor]

i know

but shes shit to play

and iuno is busy with jiyan anyway

im not putting lynae with iuno EW

she ruins her goddess presence

with her fakin basic ass gyaru shit

[open copper]

Iuno also feels pretty bad as Main DPS for me. Her rotation is super short

[scenic condor]

it's not

[last nest]

do you have her sig?

[scenic condor]

ur playing her wrong then

whats your iuno main dps combo?

cuz i'd bet you are just doing her subdps combo

the fast rot

[open copper]

No, I don’t use her as Main DPS.
But if her Main DPS combo is different than Sub DPS, I guess it makes sense

[last nest]

some charechers in this game just do zero damage without sigs

[scenic condor]

intro ult mba3 e1 e2 mha outro

[last nest]

(chisa another victim of this)

[scenic condor]

this is her base rot

for subdps

[open copper]

It feels like SK has more field-time than some sub-dps nowadays

[scenic condor]

for fastest concerot

sk field time is really short

unless ur playing her 123

and refuse to qs her startup

ye then it's longer

but even then it's not too bad

jsut anim cancel her forte heavys

with skill and ult

[last nest]

Verina is the one with the bad rotation out of old units

[scenic condor]

verina could be VERY easily fixed

if they let her use her forte heavy midair

instead of forcing a plunge

she'd be much much smoother

[last nest]

so annoying., It would be fine but matrix forces you to play her

[scenic condor]

eh i just play her with her old teams

not many teams need her nowadays

i dont use any of the "general" healers in any of my tops teams outside mornye now

but mornye aint a general healer anyway

[last nest]

btw, we might see Changli soon again. As we go back to China in 3.5-3.6

[open copper]

More like no team wants Verina nowadays.

She is hard outclassed by SK.

[scenic condor]

no modern team wants sk either

[toxic nebula]

thats just 1.0 character issue

[open copper]

Sigrika?

[scenic condor]

sk is not part of sigrika's best team

she is part of her "i need sustain badly" best team

[toxic nebula]

remember when Verina coordinated attacks lasted 6 seconds and devs really thought that was long enough (it was not)

[scenic condor]

otherwise qiuyuan ciaccona is stronger

[last nest]

her bis is cia

[scenic condor]

if we start from the assumption that sustain is for skill issued ppl

then sk wont rlly find a place on most meta teams

but if we assume the player is your usual dodge/qs issued casual then ye sure sk is much more relevant

[open copper]

Ciaccona aged well, didn’t she?

[last nest]

Augusta team is the only one where SK is bis I think

[scenic condor]

there was never any doubt she would

that sig is broken

oh yeah btw whenever i mention ciaccona it's always r1

[open copper]

I remember there were plenty of people on her initial banner saying that “she was for Carthetyia only.”

[scenic condor]

r0 ciaccona is not a factor

outside carty

and those copium peeb dps teams that refuse to use smc chisa

[scenic condor]

those people were stupid

cuz she is the very best partner for jiyan

even better than iuno

[last nest]

she is a factor in main dps Cia

[scenic condor]

no she isnt

main dps r0 cia

is not gonna do anything

[last nest]

(yes it's tune break whealchair)

[scenic condor]

what about it?

tune break wont wheelchair cia

i'd rather put chisa in there

lynae chisa maybe ig

but ugh jus the thought of lynae

atp just go iuno cia chisa

[scenic condor]

when was that ooo

[toxic nebula]

was actually 12 seconds

but I swear on god it feels like half

doesnt even last through phrolova burst

[scenic condor]

what do you even need her coord attacks for?

nobody cares for that

besides jinhsi

[toxic nebula]

ye cuz its a dead forgotten mechanic

I just thought it was cool with phrolova's effects

vines and flowers theme

[scenic condor]

all phrolova cares for are echo casts

nothing else

buffs are nice sure but she has so much raw stat power in her ult that no buff will ever provide her more than echo casts

the only other thing that would be better is another strong dps with her

and even that depends on investment

i think i will grab her s2 afterall

i was hoping we'd have more info on the 2nd lineup for 3.x

but i fear this is the last rerun for phrolo for a long while

as this is her 3rd banner

and everybody gets dungeoned after their 3rd banner

except for peeb

peeb is the only character who ever got 4

[last nest]

Surely they will do something about reruns at some point

[scenic condor]

ye at some point

but who knows when that will be

[last nest]

They are losing money if they stop reruning charechers like Phrolova

[scenic condor]

you'd think that

[last nest]

Cause she is still strong and popular

[scenic condor]

i dont think it's true

wuwa is very much waifu of the month format

[open copper]

Cammy, looking from the sides.

[scenic condor]

exactly

she was massively popular

look at her now

she got no further support

no love

[open copper]

Still is, as she gets merch all the time

[scenic condor]

nothing

[open copper]

But the devs abandoned her

[last nest]

Ok but Cammy has essentially zero story presense compared to Phrolova

[scenic condor]

and whose choice was that?

she had presence and relevance but they chose to not upkeep that

despite her massive popularity

[last nest]

Phrolova is like the 1 charecher people bring up for things outside of being waifu/husbando

[open copper]

Phrolova is like Edelgard, if you know what I mean.

[scenic condor]

i dont know about that

i never care for any of that

i only care for kits

[last nest]

fair, but the entirety of old cast got sidelined with Rinascita release tbh

[scenic condor]

none of the rina ppl got more than 3 reruns either other than peeb

carlotta was also massively popular

[open copper]

Carlotta felt more like FoTM.

[scenic condor]

but hey maybe im wrong

[last nest]

Problem is - Wuwa just released to many charechers compared to genshin

[scenic condor]

and phrolova wont be dungeoned

but i cant take that chance

[last nest]

And has constant main story patches

[scenic condor]

bc shes too integral to my account

[open copper]

Changli, SK, Cammy and maybe Phrolova feels like the one who had staying power with the fandom.

[last nest]

So they can't keep brining back older chars for fanservice events

[scenic condor]

not even sk had more than 3 banners

[open copper]

The GA did say he was going to meet Phrolova again soon.

[scenic condor]

"main story"

ye okay

no

[last nest]

I don't think cammy is all that popular this days tbh. Phrolova stole her thunder

[scenic condor]

half of those "main story" patches

are just glorified character quests

and you know that

[last nest]

Also Carty is still really popular

[scenic condor]

carty didnt even get her 3rd rerun yet

and shes older than phro

cammy only got 2 as well

[last nest]

I don't think reruns correletate with popularity

Phoebe isn't that popular

[scenic condor]

she isnt

but zani is

so when zani runs

she runs

thats why she has 4

cuz she had her own debut

then ran everytime zani ran

[last nest]

Carty is defo still popular as I actually see decent amount of new art for her

[scenic condor]

and zani just had her 3rd banner

[open copper]

I think Phoebe actually did decently well at the beginning.

[scenic condor]

so now they are both gonna be dungeoned

[scenic condor]

they dont

bc everybody suffered the same fate

3 banners

then bye

[open copper]

Zani’s popularity feels like it dropped a fuckton once her bricked kit dropped.

[last nest]

She was decently popular in 2.0 and 2.1 but they banished her out of the story after

[scenic condor]

so thisis not about popularity

[open copper]

I mean, power and popularity tend to correlate.

[last nest]

it's the same issue genshin had with to many chars and too little time to rerun them

[scenic condor]

if there was any correlation

[open copper]

If you don’t play a character, you won’t get attached to them.

[scenic condor]

then someoen would have gotten more than 3

but nobody did

peeb is special cuz shes tied to zani so they wont run zani without her

so i more or less count her as zani dlc

[last nest]

I think we were supposed to have the anni mass rerun banners

[scenic condor]

rather than running on her own merit

[last nest]

But people bitched so much about them they scrapped the idea

[scenic condor]

kek

and instead we got sleep patch

with barely any extra pulls once again

[last nest]

(it worked for me cause I picked up Changli on anni)

[scenic condor]

this anni gave even less than the last one

[scenic condor]

same

wait no im lying

i picked her up with brant debut

[last nest]

Reward wise sure. but it has more content

Story +event wise

[scenic condor]

who tf cares

about that

anniversary needs more rewards

not more to do for kinda the same rewards xd

who tf wants to DO more for less

[last nest]

3.4 will have more rewards than normal

due to being a cross over

[scenic condor]

surely it wont be

collab banner specific pulls

which is meaningless

to ppl who dont care for the collab

[last nest]

we know we get free copies of Rebeca+lucy at 200 and 300 pulls

[scenic condor]

anyway

i dont really care for them

lucy is carlotta level

which is way behind meta

[open copper]

200/300 pulls ain’t free

[scenic condor]

and rebecca is free

[last nest]

well, this is to encourage whaling

[scenic condor]

free as in in addition to whatever else you got in those pulls

but ye ofc it's not free

im happy they chose to make lucy mid

instead of meta

so im not compelled to even consider

[last nest]

same - I hate when they make collabs meta relevent

[scenic condor]

dmc collab was a sin

[last nest]

Collabs should always be niche shit

[scenic condor]

the beginning of all that is now shit in pgr

anyway my point is

im scared phrolo will be dungeoned

so even tho i know nothing of phase 2 for 3.x

i think i will not risk it

and just get her s2 now

next target after this is probably to find a home for chisa

maybe we get an electro flare dps

[open copper]

Yap-Yap is Havoc Bane

[scenic condor]

havoc bane doesnt do dmg

so yapyap is a chisa creep

if anything

[last nest]

I thin kshe is main dps

[scenic condor]

bane is just def shred

thats all

so theres no "havoc bane dps" who does "havoc bane dmg"

bc havoc bane is not dmg

ahhhhhhh im so over 3.x still

in terms of characters

everybody i liked ended up either weaker than i wanted or clunk ass

or both

[last nest]

you should have liked Sigrika

[open copper]

She could just have a “Will deal increased DMG against enemies afflicted with Havoc Bane.”

[scenic condor]

but i didnt

nobody fakin needs another aero dps

when carty is so much more engaging to play

i HATE fucking forced 123

let the casuals play it but dont force me to do so

heck even i play 123 on a tired day

no shame in that

but forced to do ONLY that goes against the core design of wuwa's combat

so 3.x can go die

hiyuki was a breath of fresh air in this sense

sadly her banner timing was awful for me and i have some issues with her that i just couldnt get past enough to pull for her

but she's definitely the best kit design we got in 3.x so far

[open copper]

||YapYap|| whiwa token

[scenic condor]

heck is annihilation effect

[open copper]

Havoc effect.

[scenic condor]

that aint havoc bane

havoc bane is not on our characters

or idk what they mean by "afflicted by annihiliation"

[open copper]

Maybe she self-applies?

[scenic condor]

she shreds her own def?

she will still not be doing havoc bane dmg

cut bane is not a dmg

just fancy def shred

so then she'll just do havoc dmg

but have self-bane or something to make some stuff exclusive to her

which then has nothing to do with chisa

i dont think this is havoc bane

this is something else probably

unless we have the same crooked translation of chisa's beta kit

and if it says annihiliation there too

[limber swan]

guys, is denia supposed to be a child?

that's S2

[radiant fox]

@scenic condor
This is what you're recommending me to learn?
Yeah, no, thanks
https://youtu.be/dw7JKQ4s9DI?si=ULT7GvyslPw19C1m

[scenic condor]

did you like not read what i wrote?

i specifically said that showcases will not help you learn

[radiant fox]

https://youtu.be/uz8R9Fbm-Jo?si=oL_eH1Hr1Fi1HR2y

So you meant that one?

[scenic condor]

what will help you learn are:

• reading character kits and understanding how they function
• watching character moveset breakdowns (what connects to what etc)
• and of course trial and error

i recommended frenchtutor specifically because he usually breaks down movelists in his character guides

[scenic condor]

yes

[radiant fox]

He explains it with visual cues, I can't keep up

[scenic condor]

he usually explains basic kit stuff, then shows optimalizations, then shows even more and even more

so you can pick whatever you can do from it

then he shows a showcase in slowmo

then normal

the rest is the usual wep/build etc stuff which is also nice but not the point

[radiant fox]

Unless everything is second coded like turn based gameplay then I don't really think I can do those swap combos

[scenic condor]

im not following

you see big ass scissor appear

you swap

you press skill to summon chainsaw and you swap

then you go back and press basic to chainsaw again and swap

if this is too small of a detail for you to pick up

then i guess i cant help you

[radiant fox]

I tried it already okay, I sometimes miss timing buy clicking multiple times because my device also lags input

[scenic condor]

missing timings is fine

learning involves mistakes

and getting used to new things

saying "i cant do this" without even trying

is something i cant comprehend

but we are not the same

and ofc i dont wanna push you

im just trying to show you that what you think is some gigabrain hard thing is really not that hard even for someone like you who has issues with visual stuff

which is why i said instead relying on memorizing combos, understand the principle

the basic principle of when to swap is 99% of the time long animations

that will continue even if you swapped off

such as chisa scissor cut or chainsaw moves

[radiant fox]

The most I can do with Chisa is ba/skill- liberation - do random stuff till I see she summons her chainsaw scissors - continue combo until I saw her smash down- outro

[scenic condor]

wdym do random stuff

did you attempt to read her kit and understand how she works?

or watch that video on her to understand if reading is not your thing

[radiant fox]

I did

Like I said, when the setting is fast paced with bosses, I tend to blank out

[scenic condor]

which is fine

it's new

you'll get used to it

it's practice

once you get the hang of it, the same knowledge will transfer to other characters

because the principle is the same

the difference is knowing what part of their kit is worth for you to utilize for this - which is where the videos help

dont think about "okay so now i have to press these buttons in order"

[radiant fox]

Tbf, I almost completely followed this, dunno if this is quick swap or not

https://youtu.be/YAUy8o0lee8?si=MWHlLyc4I1EfAtdV

[scenic condor]

which part?

this is one of those multi-level guides

so ppl can pick what they can do

[radiant fox]

The easy rotation

[scenic condor]

easy rotations are always 123

no swaps at all

like if you watched it and looked at the annotation you saw that it went from chisa - > lynae - > hiyuki

and none of them showed up more than once

meaning there were no swaps

[radiant fox]

Mmmm

[scenic condor]

i may be truly overestimating what basic understanding is for people

but thats on me i guess

[radiant fox]

Nvm then, if basic 123 to me is already looking like a qs, I don't think it's meant for me

[scenic condor]

what...

what part of that looked like a qs

are you serious

ah

fine

[radiant fox]

Yes

[scenic condor]

i give up

you win

[radiant fox]

At least some part of it

[scenic condor]

which part exactly

im really curious

[radiant fox]

I dunno swapping to other characters in the middle of their animation, feels like quickswapping to me

[scenic condor]

but

they did not do that

not once

literally not a single frame was saved on this rotation anywhere

ye i watched the whole thing again

can you point me to the exact part you think was a swap?

this is like an eye opening experience for me

[radiant fox]

... Nvm I misremembered my own gameplay with that video. I remembered swapping out chisa to Lynae just when she does that backward dash scissor thingy. After doing the Lynae drop I just went back to finish Chisa chainsaw move and then switched to Hiyuki.

[scenic condor]

this video is very decent in terms of showcasing the various levels of rotations, but i would only recommend this after understanding the kits. otherwise this is just gonna end up being a "memorize set combos" thing instead of actual knowledge

[radiant fox]

Think I botched that one thinking it was quickswap XD

[scenic condor]

so you wasted lynae outro

wait you have lynae?

when did u pull her

[radiant fox]

I don't really understand the jargon. Did you forget I literally asked what forte was?

[scenic condor]

i thought you made a brand new account on hiyuki patch

[radiant fox]

Oh it was on that test event

[scenic condor]

ah

[radiant fox]

I tried combos on that one

[scenic condor]

which is why this video shouldnt be your starting point

this is the next step

after you understood the kits

honestly i get how you are feeling

[radiant fox]

I think that will take a long time

[scenic condor]

none of this hand to eye crap you use as an excuse

this is basically how i feel in fighter games

it's too much new knowledge and jargon i dont get

you are not impaired you are just overwhelmed

which is all right

[radiant fox]

I personally like to cut corners and just do the simplest thing which is memorizing the moves and what they do

[scenic condor]

which is why you end up struggling

because you just learned the moves

and the sequence

but not the reason behind it

so when you are in the actual fight

if you mess up and the sequence falls apart you dont know what to do

and just mash

ahhh i remember my old mortal kombat days

trying to learn jade and always ending up just panic poleslamming or the double midkick cuz i couldnt fkin remember the sequence after i messed up and i only remember 2 moves

luckily unlike fighter games, wuwa characters share all of this jargon

so you only have to learn this once

[radiant fox]

Excuse you

[scenic condor]

but hey if cutting corners and memorizing one set sequence is what feels comfortable to you then i cant stop you

[radiant fox]

What part of this is similar to other characters?

I tried reading the kits and I got a headache...

[scenic condor]

all of it pretty much

it's the same thing

[radiant fox]

Yeah I think we're on different wavelength

[scenic condor]

basic attack, heavy attack, resonance skill, lib

all the same

each character just has a fancy ass random name for it which you can ignore

so instead of basic attack stagecraft form stage 4

it's just basic attack 4

[limber swan]

there's alot of keywords, but in practice it becomes more digestible
i recommend the in-game trials, they give you an idea with visuals

[scenic condor]

reading is shit i agree

[radiant fox]

I failed Phoebe's

[scenic condor]

especially for new ppl

who dont get the jargon

which is why i recommended frenchtutor

bc he simplifies it

while showing it

[radiant fox]

I stuck there for 1 hour. Before deciding to leave the trial

[scenic condor]

and putting the text on screen too

[radiant fox]

Like what's the difference between the blue color bar and yellow color bar

[limber swan]

things might be more complicated than i initially thought

[scenic condor]

yellow is dps mode, blue is support mode

[radiant fox]

Yeah but how to switch

[scenic condor]

hold skill

when the small bar is full

and the skill lights up

[radiant fox]

I tried but it doesn't do what the trial asked

[scenic condor]

it has a cooldown

hold skill switches to support (blue)

hold basic switches to dps (yellow)

you can do this whenever the small bar on the bottom of her forte is full

which is like a 20s cd

iirc

[radiant fox]

... Even that's too much for me to keep in my brain

[scenic condor]

Phoebe can hold up to 120 Prayer.
Phoebe automatically gains 5 Prayer every second

so 24s cd on switching

my bad

[scenic condor]

that has nothing to do with hand-to-eye coordination

i really thought this is just...basic gamer stuff

[radiant fox]

Maybe not but in reality the result is the same, I blanked when given so many visuals at once

[scenic condor]

tho i admit i never learned a single thign from ingame tutorial

i always go to video guides that show everything

ingame text has a million fantasy names and even tho i can see thru most of them it's just easier to watch a vid that simplifies it

[radiant fox]

Actually nvm I think we can cut it here, the conversation stretched far too long

[scenic condor]

all good

i gave up already

[radiant fox]

This is what I meant

[scenic condor]

i understand

hence the vid recommendation

[radiant fox]

But my folly in your opinion is me skipping the simplified details of the kits and then just going straight to combos, correct?

[scenic condor]

yes

i think it's helpful to understand the basics, then look up combos

and apply them

[radiant fox]

I see... I'll try those qs combo again when another test event comes up

[scenic condor]

first focus on understanding general game jargon

then character specifics

and after that you can do basic 123 combos

and after that you can progress to basic swap stuff and then later to advanced if ur comfortable already

and after a while things will become second nature

and then u wont be thinking actively about the next move during combat

i honestly feel bad now

i feel like i forced something on you that may be causing you anxiety or making you enjoy the game less

and if i did im sorry, wasnt my intention

i probably have to understand that ppl are different and not everbody is cut out for the same stuff

even within the same game's circles

[radiant fox]

All good 👍

Tbh Phoebe's trial was the reason for me to just forego characters kit

Like come on one hour on a character trial that just use basic attacks...

[radiant fox]

Didn't get Chisa

Welp I guess saving for Luuk and hope for the best I guess

[weak jay]

[radiant fox]

Uh...

@scenic condor does this do anything for my Hiyuki team

I caved...

I am considering on getting her s2 from coral since it's 50% all type damage bonus? that's good right?

[floral shale]

queen

[limber swan]

gratz gamer

i hope you have a team to use her in,.,.

[floral shale]

I don't

but it's okay we will have Aemeath premium on rerun

[vapid prairie]

Bro finally kicked out Verina

[toxic nebula]

hell nah I still need her

I cant dodge anything in this game with all the flashbang effects

🥀

[scenic condor]

not too much

[scenic condor]

yes it's nice but i wouldnt really drop corals on chisa on a new account that doesnt have a 2nd team

if you like her a lot sure go for it. 50% dmg% for the team is nice. but i dont think it is nice enough to drop corals on that you could use for a dps instead.

besides dmg% is usually a pretty diluted stat meaning you already have a lot of sources for it, especially with an s3 hiyuki. besides chisa is already her bis slot so you dont need to give her MORE to compete (unlike say in a carty team)

so i would skip and save

[radiant fox]

Aye aye, got it

[scenic condor]

oh wait i misread it

that's only for neg status users

ok so less universal than i thought

yea deffo skip

your hiyuki really doesnt need more buffs

[radiant fox]

I see

[scenic condor]

you can grab her sig if you wanna build chisa for damage i guess

[radiant fox]

I don't see that happening anytime soon

I still need my second team dps afterall

[scenic condor]

indeed

just save

you can slap standard broadblade on her

[radiant fox]

👌

[scenic condor]

oh wow this was early

11 pulls from 0pity

gonna be a cheap s2 then

[weak jay]

it is, by a bit

[radiant fox]

I assume a little bit of damage increase from Chisa's combo and non interrupt during her combo line

[scenic condor]

damn and a fast reset even at 24

okay i may go for s3 atp

[weak jay]

she's also a good mob gatherer

@toxic nebula where's your s6 denia

https://tenor.com/view/denia-wink-denia-denia-wuwa-denia-shh-danya-wink-gif-6653945497297605630

https://x.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/2057769270713451012?s=20

WuWa Universe (@WuWa_Verse1)

Idols ✨

#WutheringWaves

X · May 22, 2026, 10:23 AM

skin where

[open copper]

Surprised no one anywhere is commenting on the Silent Hill section of the new story.

[limber swan]

Didnt do it yet, heard its short

[limber swan]

ok it's time to save for lucilla now

[scenic condor]

mehh scar spectro res holding me back

also denia not having any build just threw pact on her with random shit

i might go for her sig afterall since my phrolo pulls went so well, her dmg might be mid but in this case it would have helped

~10% diff is so small tho

[old summit]

the good news

I got my denia and chisa with their sigs

the bad news

I have 0 currency left

including pity currency

[open copper]

Funny how they normally use events to Advertise the New Resonators.

But Illusive Realm has no Hiyuki/Denia.
That’s weird

[limber swan]

i remember when she was clowned on https://x.com/do_iuno_augusta/status/2057847710011859381?s=20

Dia (@do_iuno_augusta)

Everybody wants Chisa

X · May 22, 2026, 3:35 PM

[ionic quiver]

the one who clown dont understand value of debuff

chisa debuff is byfar the strongest

[marble sapphire]

Havoc Bane is a "might as well be entire fight" -Def% and you never underestimate those kinds of effects

[old summit]

btw

[marble sapphire]

I was wondering if it was permanent, it's not, it just ticks down very slowly

[old summit]

speaking of chisa

does she use heal set in all 3 teams?

did I farm the havoc bane set for nothing?

[marble sapphire]

I use the havoc set and don't care for that heal set

[limber swan]

she uses the havoc set when in cart teams iirc, or if she's main dps (don't do this)
otherwise rejuv glow, although i heard it's like a 2% difference

so whatever you got better pieces for

[old summit]

whats the energy req

for each team

[limber swan]

125% should be a good stopping point

if you use lustrous razor that should make it easier to hit

[old summit]

thats base + 25 right?

[limber swan]

yeah, her ult is pretty low cost

so you don't have to go too hard like verina/shorekeeper who need 250+

[old summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMElaqYRtU

[limber swan]

Rare jiyan moment https://youtu.be/rWCKBwXK2dY

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2058080655469429200 the live reaction

RinasCita (@wuwaguy)

Wuthering Waves V3.5 New Region Reveal And Public Reaction at 2nd Anni Party :)
︀︀
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FixupX · May 23, 2026, 7:00 AM

[open copper]

I thought that was Lahai-Roi ….

[marble sapphire]

Mengzhou... Seems to be an area of a lot of high pillars

I was reminded of Liyue

[open copper]

I saw someone call it an ATLA Air Temple, and I can see it.

[limber swan]

It seems less wuxia to me and more like black shore esque

[marble sapphire]

Their idea from the beginning was high tech China for Huanglong. Just that maybe they couldn't convey that much thanks to the whole ongoing war thing I guess

Alongside their choice of aesthetics

[limber swan]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/2058095592732282928?s=20

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Ever Shine With You | Wuthering Waves 2nd Anniversary Celebration
May the kindling of Startorch burn bright, and our path stretch ever farther.

Claim Radiant Tide x10 and 2nd Anniversary Exclusive Avatar "Tidesong Once More" via the [Gifts of Grand Celebration] Anniversary

X · May 23, 2026, 8:00 AM

[marble sapphire]

https://x.com/i/status/2057232480886018465
https://x.com/i/status/2057952145065017408

Reine (@FoxyReine)

Denia #WuWaFanart #WutheringWaves

X · May 20, 2026, 10:50 PM

Reine (@FoxyReine)

Denia #WuWaFanart #WutheringWaves

X · May 22, 2026, 10:30 PM

[burnt mortar]

hot

[weak jay]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zhAN6kZWI||

i guess somebody dk this

[radiant fox]

Where and how to farm Hiyuki' echo set outside of tacet fields again?

[weak jay]

it's random

you have to go choose the echoes set and track on map

[scenic condor]

yes, assuming bis teams. and especially yes if ur doin 123 rots

[scenic condor]

go to data bank, and track specific echos that belong to hiyuki set. it will show them on the map one by one

[radiant fox]

How do I know which belongs to Hiyuki set?

[scenic condor]

select the set?

and here you click on individual echos

[weak jay]

3 cost the 1st and 4th one has overlap with other echo set

[scenic condor]

and detect

[weak jay]

2nd also overlap with reel set

[scenic condor]

ye there will be overlap

[weak jay]

random

[scenic condor]

but like bro just progress the story

[weak jay]

🚮

[scenic condor]

the time ur wasting on hunting echos overworld

is the time u could be spending on catching up on story

[weak jay]

1 cost one middle and right are overlap

[scenic condor]

so you could access the tacet field

[weak jay]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

farming tacet field

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-jules-millin-ew-no-no-nope-gif-4916269967682260379

farming 10 times get 1 that you wnat

and it roll bad

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

worthless

[scenic condor]

so running around the overworld for 10 times the time investment

and getting the same shit results

is more worth?

[weak jay]

it's same

[scenic condor]

in time investment? not it isnt

[weak jay]

time investment go tacet field

but it sucks

[scenic condor]

you kill a tacet field way faster

and it drops more

also you know

[weak jay]

[scenic condor]

we have to get echo xp

and tuners

[radiant fox]

Thanks!

[weak jay]

denia using which set again

am not pulling

[scenic condor]

depends on the team

[weak jay]

[scenic condor]

she has like 4 sets

[weak jay]

https://tenor.com/view/broooo-mikhail-varshavski-doctor-mike-bruh-oh-come-on-gif-26545905

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-11178519124187914777

[scenic condor]

she can use foam or clawprint for fb
reel or neon for strain

im running her on neon cuz my luuk is invested so denia dmg matters even less

[marble sapphire]

||https://fixupx.com/WuwaLatamHQ/status/2057994428262801805|| role reversal

WuwaLatamHQ (@WuwaLatamHQ)

La pesadilla 😱o quizas el sueño mas deseado de Nivora, que el Rover la persiga 🥵😆
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FixupX · May 23, 2026, 1:18 AM

[ionic quiver]

Is this real?

[marble sapphire]

unverified leak

[toxic nebula]

desert biome

[weak jay]

souine nano

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-capoo-bugcat-capoo-hi-greeting-gif-16357365

[weak jay]

https://tenor.com/view/denia-denia-wuwa-denia-wuthering-waves-denia-dance-denia-cute-gif-308826599933522531

[weak jay]

https://x.com/AboutWuwa/status/2058091333777338809?s=20

About Wuwa (@AboutWuwa)

Lucy Changes (3.4.3)

Forte:
• Spectro DMG Bonus: 40% → 65%
• Multi-threading bonus: 100% → 240%

Resonance Liberation Buffs:
• Netrunner: Override
715.72% → 844.95%

• Old Net Deep Dive: Override
1431.44% → 1689.89%

#WutheringWaves

X · May 23, 2026, 7:43 AM

@vapid prairie buff pistol

[old summit]

Spectro?

Wasn't she electro flare with rebecca?

[marble sapphire]

i should play a safe character for this 300% clear on illusive...

i think Phoebe is one of the safe choice since she spends 99% of the time flying

[scenic condor]

no

shes spectro break dps with her own "special" break type called hack which functions like rupture but only lucy and rebecca can make use of it properly

so she will want rebecca+mornye (tho mornye aint as crucial as she is for other break teams)

[marble sapphire]

https://x.com/i/status/2058157340478841212 hue?

Apex Eagle (@Apexeaglehsr)

WHAT ???????????????

X · May 23, 2026, 12:05 PM

[marble sapphire]

deserved

[vapid prairie]

I picked Denia too

[radiant fox]

Denia fans rise up yay!

How to trigger SK special close up intro?

[vapid prairie]

She needs to "absorb" her realm at max level. So you need to do two intro skills then do her intro

[radiant fox]

Uh... Very sorry, but I don't get it

I need to do 2 intro skills... So I need to use the other team member intro skills after deploying her realm and then use her intro?

[vapid prairie]

Basically do her intro before the circle is gone by cooldown running out

The special intro is ending her ult early

[marble sapphire]

It's a good idea to get it because it fills SK's intro bar by a lot

[vapid prairie]

But it needs to be max level

It starts at Level 1 then upgrades whenever someone does an intro skill inside it

[radiant fox]

How much ER does SK needs?

I'm using trial SK and she charge her ult so slowly..m

Also thanks again for the explanation I think I get it now

[scenic condor]

ah i would have preferred this over cyberpunk for wuwa too

kurumi

but in pgr ehhh

i hope to god they wont repeat dmc collab

[vapid prairie]

250% to max both buffs. She gets 10% from a passive and 10% from casting her intended echo so you only need 230% on the stat screen

[radiant fox]

I see no wonder the trial one feels so slugging it lacks another 60% more

[scenic condor]

lucilla is looking more and more choppa man

wtf is kuro thinking

hiyuki and chisa both being qs monsters

and then they throw in lucilla who cant be swapped off at all but has a longer rot than lynae so you dont even have time for it

so you have to skip her on the first rot

god what an awful design

and it's not even like luuk where techincally u can swap

u just lose his forte

with lucilla you are actively stuck in her camera animation

[rain ether]

[scenic condor]

less of a problem for phrolo team

where you have plenty of field time

8s unswappable rotation is just SO LONG

in hiyuki team

i hope this pushed cn to fight against the anti-qs shit that has been goin on lately

[last nest]

Ariel you kind of fighting windmils here

Qs is just not something majority of people care about

[scenic condor]

im not even talking about proper qs rotations here now

but ye ur right probably

most of the ppl are skill issued noobs

who dont even realize they are

nor they wanna put in effort to improve

which is fine

i just have a hard time comprehending it

that someone would sit thru the entire chisa chainsaw animation

or changli's forte

but yes ur right

it's like me going into fps games and refusing to adjust anything or learn anything just shoot

and i did do that whenever i played fps games cuz it's just really not my kinda gameplay and it was awful

idk how ppl can enjoy games like this

[toxic nebula]

Im too employed for this

All I want is to see baddies on my screen whoop enemies

[scenic condor]

then why u rolling bitches with negative dmg

wheres ur phrolo s3?

fkin fake ass

[toxic nebula]

not my fault kurogames makes qustionable decisions

fk em

[scenic condor]

im actually surprised ur not a phrolo simp

is she too hag

but shes smol and flat

so she cant be

[toxic nebula]

im literally a phrolova simp

and denia

[scenic condor]

fr?

s0 phrolo simp?

[toxic nebula]

bruh

[scenic condor]

are you serious?

bitch i have higher invest

and im not even a phrolo simp

[toxic nebula]

idc kekw

[vapid prairie]

So committed to Phrolova that he copied Rover by abandoning her for Columbina

[scenic condor]

enjel is gotta be the worst simp

ever

empty promises

no delivery

dw phrolo henny

i'll take better care of u

[toxic nebula]

go back to prefarmimg ur hag luccila

[vapid prairie]

He literally can't get Sparxie because of free males

[scenic condor]

im skipping her wdym

[toxic nebula]

[scenic condor]

did you not see me rant about her above

why would i pull anti-qs flop shit

unless male

i dont even have a team for her

now that i think about it. wuwa barely even has good hags

changli probably the last one i cared for

and thats like 2yrs ago

[toxic nebula]

I have a theory the trap wont be the same as last time because the player needs ro choose gilg or archer

they cant enter the account automatically without input like last time but I feel like you cant close the menu either, either way cant prove it until the collab drops

[floral shale]

Changli the best thing to come out of this game highkey

https://tenor.com/view/changli-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-17362001525029263489

This is…Allah

The way I completely diched my Jinhsi cause she so garbage

But I still play Changli

[toxic nebula]

acting like you actually play this game

[floral shale]

And do

And my Phrolova actually invested 😘

[vapid prairie]

Your theory when it was me who mentioned it first

[toxic nebula]

sike its mine now

[last nest]

Me in battlefield 3

[last nest]

Changli and Cantarella

[scenic condor]

word

[scenic condor]

two

tho i dont like cantarella

but even disregarding that

wuwa has a surprisingly small amount of hags

compared to usual cn gacha

pgr women are mostly hags

[toxic nebula]

which is a good thing

unlike genshin constantly pandering to hags

shameless

[last nest]

They copied it from Genshin that famously hates hags

[scenic condor]

yet ur a tourist in wuwa while ur playing genshin more

[scenic condor]

genshin has a lot of hags wdym

[toxic nebula]

"play" you mean condense resin

I have more playtime on wuwa than genshin

[scenic condor]

idk what ur doin when ur not spreading misinfo

[scenic condor]

yet still only s0 phrolova

fkin shame

[last nest]

If you mean large model sure

But so does wuwa

[scenic condor]

@autumn quarry can you define hag please

[last nest]

For me hag has to be in Milf territory to count

[scenic condor]

cuz im confused about the exact hag catergory now

is it older than 18?

[toxic nebula]

characters I dont like

[scenic condor]

or big booba?

or tall?

[toxic nebula]

thats literally it

[scenic condor]

but like all of these together then

[last nest]

Charechters visually older than 20 for enjel lol

[toxic nebula]

if they look expired theyre probabaly a hag

[scenic condor]

if by expired you mean they would whoop your creep ass

then i get it

scared of true women smh

[toxic nebula]

sorry I dont go for hags I'm for the ladies

stay in your bracket 👏

[scenic condor]

what if the ladies arent for you tho

[toxic nebula]

im not unc yet so like

[floral shale]

Expired when speaking about women

Oh MAGAjel

[last nest]

Nah, enjel just blue archive fan

[marble sapphire]

that doesnt even know the story or half of the characters...

[open copper]

I wouldn’t be surprised if most BA fans didn’t actually play the game.

It’s Tohou all over again.

[scenic condor]

cuz the story is the point of goon right?

idk why they dont just make lads type gacha with waifus

if most ppl dont even care about the combat enough to learn

and just play for the hot women

you could do that in lads-type game with minimal easy combat and maximized goon

[marble sapphire]

point of goon?

[scenic condor]

gooners play to goon not to read story

is what i meant

[marble sapphire]

the bond stories are indeed fanservice but i also note that no actual action happens, its actually a lot up to imagination or player interpretation for the stuff thats not shown. And of course the actual story genres range from action, comedic, intrigue, drama and stuff...

different from like...say Snowbreak

the story is all visual novel style for one

[open copper]

The 3.6 male character, Jingran.

[scenic condor]

i'll believe it when i see it

that half naked shoulder i'd love

but we dont get that

[open copper]

Is that AI?

[scenic condor]

im sure it is

no leaker is gonna create leak art

[open copper]

Why Seele likes AI so much

[scenic condor]

they probably put it into ai

cuz easier to depict leaks

instead of the fkin stickfigure drawings

in this case i support the ai use

[vapid prairie]

prevents the birth of another timely account

[open copper]

Actually, I think that’s believable.

[scenic condor]

that we get a male whos not fully covered?

in wuwa?

yea right

after they gave luuk npc design

i have no hope

[open copper]

Kuro generally avoids using Black on resonators as they want it to be a Rover’s thing.
Bare exposed skin would be a creative way to break-up that Blackened color-block.

[marble sapphire]

deliberately to obsfucate the leak a bit

they did the same thing with Rebecca and Lucy splash arts

[limber swan]

A hooded assasin with hidden blades?
Brother what in the assasin's creed is that

[open copper]

Webtoon reference

[scenic condor]

we'll fkin seeeeee

im not giving into hope

not one bit

[restive dirge]

I am so fucking sick of white outfits

You can count the characters without a white outfit on one hand

Like just take a random sample here
galbrena wears black/blue, phrolova wears red/black, chisa black, verina green

Rest wear white or half white outfits

Ciacconas dress is more white than its green

[last nest]

that was snowbreak lol

You know what happened next

[scenic condor]

well make more

idk

how is this not a thing

if goon is all that ppl want

[last nest]

Censership is the reason in CN

Japan basiclay only does low effort popular shows cash grabs

[scenic condor]

but cantarella made it thru?

[last nest]

So the only ones left is Korea/Tawain and they are much smaller dev markets

[scenic condor]

and nikke exists

and like a ton of goon shit exists

so theres like a level ig

im not sayin go make sexgames

but if lads can exist

[last nest]

Wuwa is a bit diffrent cause Tencent protection. But in general Wuwa isn't a real goon game, nothing close to LADS

[scenic condor]

so can whatever the waifu version of that is

[scenic condor]

and thank god for that

[last nest]

Tbh Nikke isn't even that fanservicy

[scenic condor]

lads a shithole game

[last nest]

It jus baits you with ass

[open copper]

There are a lot of goon games out there, but they are all low-quality.

[scenic condor]

well make high quality ones

idk

i see all these companies trying to make complex combat systems and whatnot

whos the audience??

[last nest]

You'll likely get censored

Azur lane got censored and it was kind of the closes to female lads imho

[open copper]

LaDS audience is also significantly different than the typical Anime Game audience.

[scenic condor]

so why is lads gettin away with it?

[toxic nebula]

goon games are pointless af, if yall really wanted to goon just use vpn and cross the internet to geo protected japan

..oh wait yall cant read moonrunes

[last nest]

That's just follow the leader trend set by Genshin

[scenic condor]

lads clearly set an equally big revenue trend

[last nest]

For same reason snowbreak was getting away with it. Youy do until you attract the wrong kind of attention

[scenic condor]

i mean

dont make children in it

then it cant have wrong kind of attention

or idk what happened to snowbreak

that would cause "wrong kind of attention"

i didnt keep up with it

[last nest]

Fanservice - Skins and some charecher designs were to lewd for adult charchers

They had to censor everything

[open copper]

There was a post on r/gachagames that explained it.

[scenic condor]

too lewd for ADULT characters?

what the hell is too lewd on an adult

[marble sapphire]

i instead think Korea can be a bit too much at times. Mainly because they have really rabid gender wars there

i mean, if censorship or perceived censorship happens, theres gonna be fire