Wuthering Waves

[scenic condor]

but ye once a year sure ig

[last nest]

I am not talking about husbando lovers. I am talking casuals who play say genshin cause it's not like those other coomer gachas

[scenic condor]

they can put out some nerfed male

[radiant fox]

Sooo... What? Males are just gonna be NPCs from now on? Like HI3rd?

[last nest]

No, as I said prob 1-2 males for cycle

It helps with game image

[scenic condor]

which is what we had so far

the ratio is already terrible post-launch

[last nest]

yes. At this point i doubt kuro is going to have come to Genshin moment and make their own version of Sumeru

[scenic condor]

doubt. especially after they saw genshin reverting to waifuverse too

[radiant fox]

Which is funny since they abandoned Sumeru male ratio

[scenic condor]

and regretting the sumeru phase

cause cn incels cry

[last nest]

Cn backlash to sumeru and fountain was crazy

[radiant fox]

I get Sumeru, but why Fontaine???

[last nest]

It scared every other cn gacha company out of their wits

[last nest]

3 males in a row to start the version

[scenic condor]

too many males at the start and neuvi too strong

[last nest]

Also I've seen a lot of complaings about "safe" designs of waifus from fountain

[radiant fox]

Ew... They need to touch grass

[scenic condor]

go play snowbreak

or something

kek

[old summit]

btw

[radiant fox]

Actually nvm, I don't think there's anymore grass on CN

[old summit]

for the xy chnalgi comp

changli uses fusion set right?

[last nest]

I watched the recent snowbreak trailer on rgachgaming and that shit is way to ml pandering even for me

[scenic condor]

yes

it's a dual dps comp

high skill high reward

[radiant fox]

Next they tell us just to play Love and Deep space if we want males

[scenic condor]

oh i got told that many times

😄

but no thank you i dont like otome games

also as i said im fine with not having males but when you make them dont gimp them. pgr does this right

2 males per year

[last nest]

LaD is just a gender reversed version of snowbreak tho.

[scenic condor]

but most of them are great the time of their debut

[last nest]

I woul say play Japanese gachas but than, jp doesn't make good new gachas anyway

But the old ones seem to be mostly untouched by antimale backlash from Cn

[radiant fox]

✨ Region-Lock ✨

The ones that are hard carrying them are just the big 2 of GBF and FGO... Others are just a bad case of region lock

Imagine if they released global version of Shironeko Project...

[scenic condor]

gbf is still doing great male fanservice

at least

[radiant fox]

Hey FGO does so too

The most recent one being the hyped Richard

[scenic condor]

i never got involved with fgo so idk much about it

[open copper]

I like FGO male characters more than Mihoyo’s ones.

[last nest]

japan is fucking stupid like that, can't belive that Uma is still locked

[radiant fox]

Yakuza

Or something like that, I dunno

[last nest]

Hoyo males other than Hi3 ones aren't that great that's why

GBF and FGO easy clear cause they have non twinks(and better twinks)

[scenic condor]

i'd disagree

wrio is peak male

[open copper]

I don’t really mean in design, more on characterization/interaction.

[radiant fox]

They have good lore even if they looks similar to those from UB tags

Or even outright controversial

That's the main selling point for me (Tho I still appreciate if they are good looking to boot XD)

[open copper]

XLY event quest made me kinda realize why: With Mihoyo, MC’s interaction with most males is them talking down to you most of the time. (Not even insulting, but like you’re a kid.)

Rover/XLY felt like actual friends having fun.

[last nest]

that's only in Genshin(cause traveler is a empty space so they are actually talking down to paimon)

and Paimon is an actuall kid so...

[marble sapphire]

i never bothered to try snowbreak and this was only reinforced by how it seems the gameplay is nothing special anyway and i think the models might be a bit too dated for me

[last nest]

I mean, I haven't played it myself I just can't take a trailer seriosly where it's that focused on a girl x Mc shipping

[scenic condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iT28duc1WI

ugh

fkin amazing

[versed solar]

my pc would explode

ahahahah

[last nest]

Wuwa did pretty well in February considering we only had Phoebe and jinhsi banners

[open copper]

Roccia: I am forgotten….

[scenic condor]

yes you are

go back to your box you premium luxury girl

[last nest]

She wasn't teased in February so most of her sales were on the January report

And obviously her bis teametes aha Cantarella and Phrolova were not out

She is going to end up substantially better in the future

[unreal magnet]

Isn't her BiS carm?

[last nest]

Yes but she isn't that big of an upgrade over Sanhua in Camellya team

[scenic condor]

shes barely an upgrade there in toa cause sanhua too perfect. but she is a considerable upgrade in ww

[unreal magnet]

I can't imagine Cantarella and Phrolova to change rococo's place in the mate

[last nest]

why? For all we know Phrolova could be unsusable with Sanhua which would make Roccia very meta

[unreal magnet]

And how would that work? A havoc character that benefits from rococo more than carm?

[vapid prairie]

Pavlova's BiS will be Scar/Cristoforo trust

[unreal magnet]

Without directly power creeping carm

[last nest]

the same way you can't use Sanhua with jinhsi for example

[unreal magnet]

Sanhua doesn't buff jinshi

That much is obvious

But how is a unit supposed to work with a basic havoc buffer and not a basic buffer while also being their BiS

If it's a basic specialist, Sanhua competes
If it's just havoc, Danjin competes

They can't release a basic havoc specialist without power creeping Camellia

And Rococo can only be the BiS by a large margin for a basic havoc specialist

[radiant fox]

Cristoforo model screams NPC to me...

[open copper]

They might improve it/make another …. After some time.

[radiant fox]

Any precedences for that notion?

[scenic condor]

not likely

roccia will always be premium sanhua for havoc

thats all

phrolova will 99% be a skill dmg user

so cantarella's outro can make sense

rococo boosts ba dmg

so it's most likely gonna be phrolova cant + healer

or they can make phrolova mixed

or something

like peeb

and then both can be of use

idk

we shall see

either way roccia HAS a place in the meta regardless of phrolova

she is one of the best tools for ww specifically

with or without camellya/phrolova

her own dps is enough

she mostly deals heavy dmg so you can slot mortefi and a healer with her and fire away

[open copper]

It’s nice that we have different Endgames mode

Different units being good in different modes is fine.

[ionic quiver]

[old summit]

still have no idea how to use srover in a verina comp

[young forge]

is Brant up?

[radiant fox]

Around 4 days more, you pulling?

Wait, sorry for the ping

[versed solar]

[young forge]

ill reinstall

spend my leftovers

and uninstall

[marble sapphire]

hilarious...

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1896781637054321044

WuWa Universe (@WuWa_Verse1) on X

JoJo reference

#WutheringWaves #鳴潮 #Brant

X · Mar 4, 2025, 4:35 AM

[marble sapphire]

Gangstar

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1j2evvi/wuwatracker_most_pulled_characters_and_weapons/ i see....

[vapid prairie]

Anti-Fisalia propaganda

[ionic quiver]

aite brant u dead

[vapid prairie]

Poison his wine supply

[marble sapphire]

Even more funny since currently there's kind of a meta roll for Brant or Cantarella thing going on

[vapid prairie]

Don't keep up with meta that much but it seems both of them see their usefulness realized by their first rerun rather than their debut

[old summit]

btw

is it possible

for brant to rerun along side lupa?

because if hes not gonna be good at all until lupa comes

then whats the point?

[ionic quiver]

weird tbh

meta wise both are still waiting for their units to come

how hard it is to see boobs = pull

[old summit]

but cant can still be used at her release

[vapid prairie]

I mean. Xiangli Yao took 2 phases to rerun

[old summit]

brant is like

why

[ionic quiver]

same reason with changli

and now changli is undispute the best QS unit in the game

either the tester is dogshit with brant

or the brant himself has problem

which is i dont think is the latter

[scenic condor]

why is the brant vid so much shorter than the usual story vid trailer for characters

male curse again

[vapid prairie]

I was complete dogshit with Brant in the event so

[scenic condor]

fking kuro

[ionic quiver]

watch cantarella having 2 trailers, 1 short animation, 1 music , 1 music video, and another collabs

[scenic condor]

brant has problems

multiple

lol

he will not have a single bis team

i can guarantee that

hes gonna be great in many teams

but never the best choice

and his own hypercarry team cant even beat encore

[ionic quiver]

people said this on changli 1.1

[scenic condor]

and it still holds true

[ionic quiver]

i expect this to happen again the 2nd time

[scenic condor]

changli is in the same boat

shes never bis anywhere

and shes not beating encore hyper either

her ONLY bis comp i think

is with xy

but thats such a high skill comp i doubt many ppl can pull it off

[ionic quiver]

personally think its skill issue part

[scenic condor]

it's not worth the mald

xy changli is not even top 3 comps

[ionic quiver]

waiting selkey to test brant again

[scenic condor]

even tho it is both of their best team

but why mald for high execution team

when you can just play the stronger and easier teams

and hit higher

this is the tragedy of changli

and now brant will suffer the same fate

and i wanna roll both of them

and they dont even work together

cantarella will be fine but for now yea she probably wont have a bis spot anywhere either

[ionic quiver]

i mean same problem pre wiwa now

like people are sitting on rococo

[scenic condor]

cause apparently shes not beating zhezhi for jinshi with her current numbers

[ionic quiver]

babel could do something to brant or w.e units

[scenic condor]

babel is a one time thing

not recurring

[ionic quiver]

its a permanent thing no?

[scenic condor]

yes but

clear once

[ionic quiver]

i see alot of leaks

[scenic condor]

and it wont refresh

[ionic quiver]

like refresh once

per patch thing

[scenic condor]

[ionic quiver]

they had list of buffs

[scenic condor]

oh well we will see

[ionic quiver]

and debuff ofc

[scenic condor]

anyway

[ionic quiver]

that cycle each patch

[scenic condor]

even then

even if all this would be in brant's favor

his entire kit is fucked by that midair counter change

hes stupid hard to build for no reason

in addition

[ionic quiver]

think the tester said he doesnt need 280% to perform

but nah

[scenic condor]

hard to build, hard to play, has no bis slot and lags behind the top characters

[ionic quiver]

i aint fucking trusting that

[scenic condor]

he doesnt

maygi malded the calcs already

[ionic quiver]

i will actually see his kits

[scenic condor]

250 is enough

with sig

safe to say sig is a must have

[ionic quiver]

yeah that my rough calc

[scenic condor]

31% diff

[ionic quiver]

250% with sign

[scenic condor]

but still

good luck rolling er subs

[ionic quiver]

also some cope with the free 5* sword

[scenic condor]

with decent cv

[ionic quiver]

that we got free

from 2.2 later on

[scenic condor]

good luck with that

[ionic quiver]

that give i think 33,8% ER?

on 2nd stats

or something

idk

[scenic condor]

it's trash 🙂

if you cant hit 250 you will have to run molten set

and ur losing out on attack

and the set bonus

hes just too fucked

imo

im still rolling cuz male

[old summit]

so is brant a safe skip until possible rerun with lupa?

[scenic condor]

but im just disappointed

[ionic quiver]

just wait for official kits

[scenic condor]

everybody is a safe skip

this aint a meta leaderboard game

[ionic quiver]

this sounds crazy

but WUWA probably has the best 4* setup in this game

somebody clearing toa with aalto

[scenic condor]

people clear tower with damn solo rover

[ionic quiver]

and he hit hard

[scenic condor]

all the time

[ionic quiver]

10-15k

also danjin

[scenic condor]

and whoever really

if you have the skills and the echo stats

[ionic quiver]

also i think im comeing back to

project yang yang

but now with level 10 skilsl and even proper echo possible

[radiant fox]

I've yet to see Lingyang tho

[last nest]

10 minute backstory video arlecchino style

[scenic condor]

i saw multiple ones

but not for current cycle

im sure bilibili has one xd

[scenic condor]

brant midair dodge is seemingly fixed

so he has been de-calcharod

[radiant fox]

So he's safe for changli team now right?

[radiant fox]

Where did you find this info?

[scenic condor]

hes not gonna be good with changli

their rotas desync

that comp will only make sense with lupa probably

[radiant fox]

Aww

[scenic condor]

brant currently has no bis comp

and his best use is probably with carlotta

altho carlotta's best comp is still zhezhi

brant hyper is also an option with sanhua+healer

[radiant fox]

So he just... Exist?

[scenic condor]

but he wont outdps encore

yes

he got male cursed

tbh cantarella ends up the same

so it might not even be a male curse

but the ER bullshit definitely sucks

and cantarella at least doesnt have that problem

i suspect this might be a situation similar to kuki shinobu

[radiant fox]

But XY ends up good no?

[scenic condor]

where on release nobody understood wtf was up with her

and then dendro came and she made sense

[scenic condor]

xy is fine especially for a unit that was given for free, but hes nowhere near the top dpses

he cant even beat encore

and his highest potential is locked behind the changli qs comp

which is very hard to play

[open copper]

Lots of units as of late seems to be designed for future ones.

[scenic condor]

the male curse part is that his gearing got overly complicated for no reason

and without payoff

i will still pull

and slot im with carlotta

cause i dont have zhezhi

so it will still be an increase

over filler yy/sanhua

[open copper]

•Confession Phoebe
•Arover dot conversion.

And probably more.

[scenic condor]

ye but at least peeb makes sense with her dps form

and rover has other eles that are great so it's not like we are missing out

[open copper]

Yeah. The only thing that really concerns me with Brant is Echo Building

[scenic condor]

yep it's hard

and requires sig

so much work for a unit that doesnt do enough

and then there's the s2 bait

which i will may or may not fall for

[radiant fox]

What does it do?

[scenic condor]

30% crit

well at lteast that's the important part

it also does 2 off field nukes after outro buffed ally casts skill

so yea s2 solves his building problems

and s1 is another 60% dmg boost for him

so they cooked this up

and i think if brant was a female this would have sold very well

at least i can rest easy that brant beat changli in the hypercarry part

but that wasnt a high bar anyway

so i decided that changli will be skipped again

i like her a lot but she doesnt really have any value

and shes not even male so im dont feel obliged to pull

[last nest]

maybe? He would still be sandwitched between phoebe and cantarella

[scenic condor]

but if hes a hot female

then who tf cares abt cantarella

her selling point is hot mommy

so brant could have been hot mommy too

and then he outsells peeb probably

idk

btu yes he will tank and burn

and give kuro a reason to release even less males

[last nest]

You know hard to imagine for me brant as a women for some reason. I guess their isn't too many female pirates in gacha

The only one I can remeber was Karina from Dragalia

[scenic condor]

beidou

done

[last nest]

Fake pirate, doesn't do any actually illegal

But still, I think with Cantarella the major selling point is her connection with Carlotta so I suspect she would still sell better than female Brant

[scenic condor]

[marble sapphire]

i know FGO had a genderbend Francis Drake. Technically English privateer but a privateer is a pirate to the ones on the receiving end

[open copper]

It’s not really the pirate bit. “The Loveable Rogue” as TV Tropes call it, are pretty much almost all male.

My impression is that these charming Robin Hoods tend to be pretty common in Otome/Female media.

[marble sapphire]

age old trope that one

especially in swashbuckler fiction

[old summit]

@scenic condor but like I asked earlier

is it safer to just skip brant for now and hope he reruns with lupa?

and just keep saving for cant

into zani

[unreal magnet]

Who is lupa

Ah, character in the works

[scenic condor]

wdym "safer"

it's up to you what you wanna do cause i dont know your pull plan and how many pulls do you have, if you spend or not etc

there no "risk" cause the meta doesnt matter as much in a game without a leaderboard lol if you already have 3 teams to clear with

but yes overall brant is skippable imo

no bis team for now

[marble sapphire]

did daily, just noticed that its banner change soon

[old summit]

how soon?

actually nvm Im gonna go look in mobile

because I still havent done the trials yet

[scenic condor]

7hrs

i can only pull after work

i think i'll go for s2

who else am i gonna spend on if not a male

[unreal magnet]

A fe-male?

[marble sapphire]

...man, i think i suck at playing Brant or Cammy

[radiant fox]

You got him?

[ionic quiver]

whats wrong with ur cam?

[marble sapphire]

I have neither, but in the trials...I think I suck at dual mode floaty basic attack spam

It throws me off compared to how I usually play

[ionic quiver]

when cam float just heavy atk

spin to win

i found out that the best way to spend ur buff in 4 seconds window

before u switch out

[marble sapphire]

ht tps://ac.namu.la/20250306sac/85c2ccc88cc10c72d679d1a602474eef52016672ec1cd0715450732b07a51a1f.mp4?expires=1741243436&key=RrGlv5ZsnTUDclg_AMtaNg 20 seconds Changli, Brant Sanhua ToA clear middle tower

[ionic quiver]

QS supremacy

youtube link?

i cant access that

[marble sapphire]

Its a namu link, that's why I broke up the link

Eh sec

Yep instadeleted

[scenic condor]

brant put in t1 on prydwen

sadge

but understandable

[ionic quiver]

im not even surprised that brant on t1

until 10% of the community able to do it like what hiro send prydwen will do consolidation upgrade to 0.5

[marble sapphire]

Why me

[ionic quiver]

the one u send

20 seconds brant changli

i wanna call them the banish team

[scenic condor]

i cant even open this

[marble sapphire]

I am not on comp sadly

Oh it timed out

[ionic quiver]

@scenic condor have u seen brant nuke?

standard comp brant sanhua SK

actually decent

for casual players that doesnt want to QS he is 8.5/10

https://x.com/HereForXYao/status/1897492541727178994?t=k9P7REWrRRwAsyLWPWNuFg&s=33

HereForXY (@HereForXYao) on X

ngl s0r1 brant is already good enough this is crazy decent damage, shield and heal?? nah broo don't take em all😭😭

X · Mar 6, 2025, 3:40 AM

feel like he miss some rotation

could nuke twice imo

[marble sapphire]

Heard another bit about CBT story before 1.0 and one detail pointed out that was considered dumb is a scene where on arrival to the hall/palace in Jinzhou Rover gets attacked by Sanhua despite being already informed beforehand they were coming as a guest and accompanied by Jiyan yeah I already had a feeling one reason CBT story was rewritten was because it was just not good but wow

I guess 1.0 was indeed truly hampered by needing to rewrite 90% of the story and running out of time before deadline

[scenic condor]

sadly encore still beats him overall with the same team

and his build makes crit fishing even harder for the nuke

unless hes s2

sig ofc required

but i will try my best

i might go for s2

i'll see how my pulls go when i get home

[young forge]

@scenic condor man is uo?

[marble sapphire]

🤨

[young forge]

Brant banner on EU is up?

[scenic condor]

yes

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1j4r9jg/via_wuwa_land_updated_game_launcher/ Scar in updated launcher Random Danjin in launcher too, what did they mean by this

[radiant fox]

https://x.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1897563246858477765

WuWa Universe (@WuWa_Verse1) on X

Brant regenerates HP when he eats his orange

Idle animation powercreep is real 😮

Cre: Blanooman

#WutheringWaves #鳴潮

X · Mar 6, 2025, 8:21 AM

[young forge]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1897563246858477765

lemme fix that for ya

[radiant fox]

What's wrong with the one I sent?

[young forge]

one you sentt needs to be clicked

this one embeds properly

and noone needs to suffer and go on twitter

[radiant fox]

Oh I see

[young forge]

also some ppl have twitter banned/blocksed in their countries

[radiant fox]

Wow, okay

[young forge]

discord being ass with embeds

tldr

there is also rxddit

that embeds reddit properly

like img gallery from there

or vid

[radiant fox]

Got it

[scenic condor]

alr im home

time to pull

what is a good brant location anyway

ig his camp

yass i won

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1j0uksg/whats_the_dumbest_thing_youve_done/ ..hm? The comments say theres custom teleports?

[vapid prairie]

Yes there are. It's only really useful if you need an easier teleport for Jinzhou if you need to put one next to a boss or an Echo route. Otherwise useless

https://x.com/Narushioww/status/1897597775497322804

Narushio (@Narushioww) on X

Wuthering Waves x Xiaohongshu
#WutheringWaves #鳴潮 #Brant

X · Mar 6, 2025, 10:38 AM

[scenic condor]

ofc

i used them in the past when tacet fields were not teleportable directly

mainly for the fusion electro field

cause it was high up and saved me some climbing

i also used it for the moonlit havoc one to save the walk time

[open copper]

Pain.

I eventually got Brant, but this feels awful.

Maybe they should put that Genshin’s system whereas losing the 50/50 improves chances in the future. I’ve lost in almost every banner.

[scenic condor]

genshin's is awful too tho

you only get it at every 4th loss

[open copper]

What? Lmao.

[scenic condor]

yep

[open copper]

This is pretty much to supernaturally cursed people.

[scenic condor]

it's a nothingburger

so they seem like they cared

and done

30 pulls

[old summit]

https://fixupx.com/kinoharakossuta/status/1895450302708625512

[scenic condor]

and 20 pulls

what a lucky ass day im having

and i hit 720 corals so i could buy s2 brant

[young forge]

Huge W

[scenic condor]

definitely

emphasis on the huge

her showing up in 30 pulls with a won 50/50 is justice for her debut banner

where i had to go to near max pity

and still lost

[young forge]

im cooping MonHun rn

[scenic condor]

and didnt have enough to pull again

[young forge]

will roll Pirate after

[scenic condor]

dont forget to roll sig

or dont roll him at all

[young forge]

may be he will bring my will to play back

im not rolling sigs

on anyone

[scenic condor]

then dont roll him

hes the most sig reliant unit in the game

[young forge]

i dont care
im not planning to play abyss

at best overworl

if i return

[scenic condor]

hes bad for overworld

[young forge]

brant is hot

and pirate

[scenic condor]

cause hes ult reliant

[young forge]

all i care for

[scenic condor]

well if thats all u care for

then roll his damn sig 😄

[young forge]

im llike 10k gems

you forgot i return for gun italian shortstuck

[scenic condor]

maybe shouldnt have afked thru all the events

[young forge]

rolled her and left

[scenic condor]

also 10k is enough just get lucky

[young forge]

i played actual games instead of gachas

i was slacking zzz and re99 too

[scenic condor]

then why even bother to come back

if u shit on gachas xd

it's a wise choice that you stayed away tbh

gachas can be hell

if u dont find them enjoying just dont return

keep em uninstalled

[young forge]

i say wuwa is good game
but for me gacha is still filler between games i like and wait for

i play zzz/re99 while there is nothing else to play

[scenic condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYuPeoBso8

maygi vid is out

[old summit]

what does she say about him

[scenic condor]

carlotta is his best team currently

and hes stuck on moonlit for that

this being his best team is more to the credit of carlotta being busted af

rather than brant being amazingly good

the other 2 main teams is brant hyper with sanhua sk

or changli hyper with brant sk

both teams being around the same powerlevel

it's kinda sad

he doesnt have a bis team

cause carlotta might be his best team but carlotta's best is still zhezhi

his hypercarry comp is beaten by encore hyper

and his changli dual comp is beaten by changli xy

so hes just a black hole

of mediocrity

in this sense

moreover on carlotta team hes better off running moonlit

[old summit]

Then I'll save and just pull on his rerun

If we find out Lupa comp needs him

[scenic condor]

his main value from a meta standpoint is definitely gonna be babel tower for carlotta

cause carlotta wont be able to carry any of the usual healers

[scenic condor]

actually now that im looking at maygi calculator

changli hyper with brant (so the half-qs version) is on par with changli xy

and also kinda on par with brant hyper

both beaten by encore

[young forge]

https://i.imgur.com/3C8i4Qc.jpeg

ok got him in next 20

[scenic condor]

ezpz

if you really dont wanna roll sig just ignore the 250 er

build him with moonlit

and stuff him on carlotta team

for a pure outro bot

do try to get as much ER as possible but without sig that will be very difficult

still

just build him normally and carlotta will carry him

[scenic condor]

okay day 1 build

not the best

but good enough

cdmg is a bit too low sadly

(this is s2 btw so the 50 crit is actually 92)

[last nest]

from shop i hope?

[scenic condor]

only 1 copy from shop

i got real lucky today

won every 50/50

and relatively low total pulls

[last nest]

I've noticied that if you complaing/critisize the game gacha suddenly gets a lot more generous(you with wuwa, me with hsr)

I want changli but well, not enough pulls to risk it

Cause I can't skip Cantarella

[scenic condor]

actually now that i look at it

wasnt that low amount of pulls

but changli was low

and both weps came early

[last nest]

3 50/50s won in a row...

[scenic condor]

actually

i think i lost on sk too

so peeb was the start of me winning 50/50s

[ionic quiver]

been saying this before brant release, he probably be in the same state with changli where only high skill player can execute it perfectly

now

prydwen consolidation upgrade to t0.5 when

https://tenor.com/view/gun-dean-winchester-gif-26534105

theres no way u play brant without cancelling his animation

[scenic condor]

you actually can play him as solo hyper

it's about as good as the changli variant

[unreal magnet]

Changli sidegrade?

[radiant fox]

Changli for Male enjoyer

[scenic condor]

not at all

changli does have a bis comp, brant doesnt 😄

jokes aside yes they are pretty similar

the main difference is that changli HAS TO BE quickswapped

brant doesnt

but brant's most optimal rotation will be probably qs heavy too eventually as ppl figure it out

[unreal magnet]

Btw, does swapping off brant put you on the ground or in the air? I assume in the air which would make QS a bit more awkward

[scenic condor]

depends where you swapped off obviously

most likely you will end up midair

cause hes midair most of the time

which is why i dont think he will be as widely applicable as a qs partner as changli is

cause not many characters like being in the air - changli, jinshi, xy, cam comes to mind here mainly and out of these only changli might benefit from brant in this way as he has no coords for jinshi, no outro benefit to cam or xy

the 3 comps that work best with him are all comps that would be better off with someone else in his place:

• brant sanhua sk (encore would be better here)
• changli brant sk (xy would be better here tho I must note that the xy changli qs comp is much harder to pull off optimally than the changli brant one)
• carlotta brant sk (zhezhi would be better here)

hyper brant and changli brant are about the same total dmg overall with the hyper brant being much easier to play to similar results

carlotta brant pulls ahead cause well it's mostly just a carlotta team doing carlotta things and taking brant along for the ride as an outro bot

at the end of the day

carlotta is better off with zhezhi

changli is better off with xy

and brant is better off skipped

and brant will probably find a better place with lupa...or i dont know. brant hyper is beaten by encore so he really doesnt have any place where he'd be a true bis pick

[unreal magnet]

[scenic condor]

this is ofc s0 brant

now with dupes that may be a whole another story

but i have not seen enough comparisons to judge it well

but for those who dont necessary chase the BESTEST TOP DPS COMP ever, brant is very fun and comfortable to play, scales exceptionally well with early dupes and his damage is more than sufficient enough to clear content even on s0

thank you for coming to my TED talk

[unreal magnet]

He's like comfort>clear time

He clears. But if you are going for top times in speedrunning, you won't be bringing him if you can help it

At least that's my current understanding

[marble sapphire]

https://youtu.be/K7RPkBgZRSU?feature=shared

[ionic quiver]

damn prydwen got hit hard

maygi calc really turn them to shit

and now people blaming prydwen for miscalc

i will be on prydwen downfall

[old summit]

what happened?

[ionic quiver]

first they said wiwa content will not be included in tiering for casual

and now they do it

also as maygi calc turns out that u can use molten set with other weapon

u do not need dedicated set for him

just like how rococo doesnt need midnight veil is she is sub DPS buffer for cam

while u can do it for wiwa for faster clear

thats happen when u trust CCs that suck at the game so much that u make whole mistake in calc

[marble sapphire]

Well that the cope option...

[ionic quiver]

@scenic condor maygii truely believe brant gonna be the better team vs encore changli

in terms on numbers on brant and execution i also believe tbh

[scenic condor]

encore changli was never good tho

so i believe that

[ionic quiver]

apparently CN players want brant nerf

[scenic condor]

encore sanhua is what brant needs to beat for hypercarry and xy changli for the changli comp

[ionic quiver]

hes too strong

[scenic condor]

what xddd

delusional

[ionic quiver]

yeah CN player think brant too much

[scenic condor]

hes not even too strong

[ionic quiver]

i think he is solid

a good t0.5 units

most CN has him on S6

[old summit]

I will wait for rerun

[ionic quiver]

so yeah tahts that

[old summit]

to see how he is in the lupa team

a team hes supposed to be in

[ionic quiver]

most of them want to gut his high scale number

950%

idk, i think its good if brant is overpowered

only for this case so we can punish those EN CC

[scenic condor]

where do u get the info that most cn has him on s6

[vapid prairie]

Bruh. I'd rather use the stupid cat sword than using a gacha ER sword that has only had one rateup

[ionic quiver]

rates on pulls are pretty high

on specific brant

they are calculating

ofc not yinlin case

JP pulls totaling 33M yen on first day

still counting

[vapid prairie]

Keep it mind Brant is the second most popular character in the cast reveal before Zani

[ionic quiver]

CN also sell really well on brant

so we will see peak this time

[vapid prairie]

Cantarella competition

[scenic condor]

source for this?

honestly if he was neuvi tier id understand but come on. hes not bis anywhere

[ionic quiver]

my X TL , swipe too fast

brant everywhere

im finding this again

[unreal magnet]

Where did you read that

I want to see

[ionic quiver]

apparently chinese apps ranking

that based on revenue

placed wuwa on 13th on this week

wait i mistranslate

sec

yeah games ranking on brant is 13 while fibi is 11th

fibi was already over and brant is starting

also some CN blili CC made alot of brant gameplay

think i misread about nerfing his S6, let me find again

[vapid prairie]

CN Ios rankings

[ionic quiver]

they dont use IOS

but sensory tower will surely use those

[vapid prairie]

The post I saw said they were Ios rankings might not be the same ig

[ionic quiver]

its interesting that multiple source stated that brant was hotsell until rank 5 in some apps

CN apps ofc

the IOS ranking that u saw @vapid prairie was it brant on rank 5?

[vapid prairie]

11/13. Games were shown in three columns with the right column being the top grossing rankings on iOS

[ionic quiver]

ah ye then thats correct then

damn their fonts were so ass

[scenic condor]

@ionic quiver do you have any source for cn wanting nerf on brant?

[ionic quiver]

yeah didnt see it now should have shared here

could be some blatant spew

[last nest]

Prydwen doesn't care about wuwa(I think their headhonco dislikes the game?)

Hell they still didn't fix spectro rover and have pre 2.0 moonlight build on him

[last nest]

This is never true. Cn players never want nerfs unless it's pvp game

What prob happens are trolls hating on husbando players

[ionic quiver]

hope not

[weak jay]

souine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1238051216810967100.webp?size=128&animated=true

[vapid prairie]

CN players think pistols have too much 5*

Add more Rectifiers

[marble sapphire]

[weak jay]

no

there's only 4 pistol users

[zealous grove]

[marble sapphire]

People talk about how amazing String master is but that's partially because there's so many Rectifier users. If there are more Broadblade users I think people would notice how good is Jinhsi's sword is too

[old summit]

no, they did update srover

read the bottom text

[weak jay]

moonlit clouds👀

[vapid prairie]

Brant should've been pistol for extra doomposting

[weak jay]

[marble sapphire]

A pistol would make him easier to build since pistols and rectifiers have higher substat

[vapid prairie]

Btw. Can anyone with Brant show me what Forte he has? I assume it has something to do with flames or metal

I swear if it's something Popeye and it's "becomes 50% stronger after eating an orange"

[marble sapphire]

ht tps://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/2204

its fire

hes a walking lighthouse

[vapid prairie]

I knew it was some sort of conjuration. Was just unsure if it's flames, metal or both

Just checked his trailer again and his tacet mark does glow when creating the anchor

Wonder who owns the second half of his mask tho

[scenic condor]

yet they sent one of the head tcs to maygis podcast

[scenic condor]

sm buff is universal atk not a selectivr dmg type while jinshi bb is skill smg buff. way less universal

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1j5lulr/wuwa_20_banner_performance_so_far_in_cn/ hmm, that 2.0 spike

threes a spike before 2.0, clearly Cammy banner

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RKRTYWEah/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click cited source

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1j5lulr/comment/mgi2q0f/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I actually have it! WuWa is 81% male on Douyin/Tiktok compared to 72% for ZZZ and 66% for Genshin. LADS is 89% female which is actually not that far ahead in percentage on a single gender for a game that's plainly targeted to female audiences

[open copper]

Well, I don’t like salespostinf, but from looking at App rankings, CN seems to be the real outlier.

Looking at the other Asian app stores, Brant/Changli ranked much better. (Like 8-12 average ranking on first day.) CN had it on 26, I think.

[marble sapphire]

in this case i am neutral if its just seeing revenue of each banner

i tune out if its revenue wars

[last nest]

Imagine being 44 percent of playerbase and getting less 5 star males per year than Wuwa lol

[marble sapphire]

*34

[scenic condor]

to be fair at least genshin gave us a sizeable male roster in the previous years. ye 2024 sucked but i can still do male only clear. I don't even know when i will have ONE viable 3male team in wuwa

I really wish these subdps heal units like brant and canta would have global outros instead

then i could have slapped brant onto jiyan team at least

[last nest]

I think genshulin supposed to be a DPS?

[scenic condor]

we know NOTHING about him

in terms of kit

we dont even know if hes gonna be playable

[last nest]

But well better hope he works with qs than if you want full male team

[last nest]

Model to good for NPC

[scenic condor]

im over it now. i accepted gathering wives

I just said this cause i dont like when ppl go but omg genshin sucks too as a defensive argument

that's bad justification and not even fully true

wuwa alienated most of its husbando players

[last nest]

Ohh no it's not defense. I wish this game had more males

Hsr for me is ideal ratio

[scenic condor]

with males showing barely any affection towards mc

while females simp

[last nest]

That's annoying. They do the same shit in hsr and genshin too. At least Pgr is still different

[scenic condor]

yeah pgr goes hard xd

even tho shikikan is obviously a male

i applaud that

[last nest]

Unironicly yumes are the most opressed in gacha atm

[scenic condor]

who

[last nest]

The ml equivalent but with reversed gender

No wonder lads is killing it cause their is literally no competition

[marble sapphire]

eh i once wondered what exactly is the gacha in LaDS for considering they have high revenue consistently, its uh, for the what if scenarios with a character

to be honest, it reminded me of R-18 gachas where part of the strategy is enticing people with FOMO, feelings and whatnot to roll for scenes

[last nest]

Well it's pretty much the only popular gacha with guys really into female mc

In the mixed gacha with both guys and girls usually at least some girls will have some affection for mc but guys will ignore their existence or treat them as freind at best

[marble sapphire]

i know that it works, just that for me, well, its just that but different demographic no matter how people try to defend that its not like the typical gacha thing or something

not that i was convinced with that sort of defense anyway

you get what i mean...?

[last nest]

I blame genshin myself as they in many ways codifies the genre of modern gacha and genshin absolutly hates their mc

Like even you sea with Wuwa. Guys here are all bros with mc while in PGR guys are really really into mc

What happened, well they are coping genshin a lot more in wuwa than pgr

[open copper]

I’ve heard that LaDS has a pretty nasty gacha.

[marble sapphire]

wouldnt be surprising and combine that with what i said earlier

in a revenue war, sometimes...high revenue either tells me that its just insanely popular

or its insanely predatory

something to keep in mind if you somehow wander into a revenue waving flame war

[scenic condor]

ye but like.....why is the world like this?

why cant we have a balance

why does it have to lean into one or the other

lads is a shit game cause it's a boring ass otome

and it's only those 4 guys

it's so blaaahh

and thats all i have to go with???

[vapid prairie]

Wait. It's only 4 characters?

[scenic condor]

yes it's the same 4 guys getting new scenes and new outfits and new sexy time and new whatever

you pay to see the bro climb on you

thats all

you could watch it on youtube

but no

you pay for it

cause the only thing that can shill out more cash than a horni man is a horni woman

maybe theres more then 4 now i think they added a 5th one

but i dont remember

and this is why i will never understand why most gachas choose to alienate horni women

when they have so much cash to blow

[open copper]

I actually like a smaller cast.

[scenic condor]

totally sidenote

i just watched tectone do maxed tower

with s0r1 brant changli roccia

[open copper]

More time to develop the characters, instead of them being dumped and forgotten for years.

[scenic condor]

with very mid ass trash echos

slapping buttons and butchering every rotation possible

not even using the kits right even on a basic level

thinking full stack forte changli means ult will do more damage xd

and STILL CLEAR

for max

so that should tell you all about how difficult toa is and how much meta matters rn

lesson of the day folks. play whatever u like

[vapid prairie]

https://x.com/riotarou12/status/1898224328694808773

紅羽りお🐰🩵 (@riotarou12) on X

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X · Mar 8, 2025, 4:08 AM

Seems like the perfect place to do a Camellya nuke

[weak jay]

https://vxtwitter.com/Minmi_dayooo/status/1898204295188955253

full video

https://vxtwitter.com/ask_punigure/status/1898213135917441319

[radiant fox]

What kind of initiation rite is this?

[weak jay]

they said you get blessing if you get bonk by phoebe

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GSj_uIBGXhw?feature=share

[vapid prairie]

Cleanse from thoughts about Cantarella

[radiant fox]

Tbh Phoebe is pretty cute... All of her screams wholesome cuteness even her name lol

[marble sapphire]

i once noted that her full name, Phoebe Marino, is rather self descriptive, uh, "Bright/Shining/Pure of the Sea"

[radiant fox]

Is she also from influential familia?

Didn't bother focusing on the familia role

[last nest]

She is an orphan

[marble sapphire]

her parents were just merchants before she got orphaned after their business trip went wrong, so she's just middle class

[vapid prairie]

https://fixupx.com/0_nszk/status/1898706948599771257

[weak jay]

@zealous grove

[ionic quiver]

ah yuki

[scenic condor]

okay

pop off

changli echo

[last nest]

Phrolova in 2.5

[open copper]

Jinhsi keeps getting supports, huh.

[radiant fox]

No scar yet?

[open copper]

Probably only when they decide to get back to Huanglong. Aka, it will take a long, long, while.

[radiant fox]

S6 here I come

[marble sapphire]

That's if we don't just immediately head to New Federation

[scenic condor]

im sorry we already had our male for the year, please come back in 2026

[radiant fox]

Didn't we have a leak that says another male is coming on the late 2.x patches?

[scenic condor]

ye we did but now we dont anymore 🙂

[radiant fox]

Eh?

[scenic condor]

we had a leak afterwards debunking the male leak

rn the lineup we have is
2.2 cantarella
2.3 zani, cicciona
2.4 cartethya, lupa
2.5 phrolova
2.6 jinshi support so probably a coord user with spectro and skillboost outro?

[open copper]

The leak said late 2.X, it’s more that we don’t know when it’s coming.

Cantarella is 2.2. (Next patch)

[scenic condor]

right next is 2.2

[open copper]

Zani is still 2.3, with Ciconja

[scenic condor]

then 2.3 zani

yea

mb

there fixed it

[open copper]

The character order was teased with the 2.2-4 teaser trailer.

[scenic condor]

anyway

tons of females

so i can go back to saving

if zanis cool i might roll tho

i just didnt like the leaked 2nd form

if lupa is hot mommy i might roll to complete fusion trio

carthetya eh.....i dont wanna replace jiyan

phrolova i have no interest in - saying this now but maybe her animations will win me over

[open copper]

Wtf are those games, I’ve heard like 2/3 of them at most

[ionic quiver]

no say u are looking forward to wuwa relesaing 3.0

its a bait

interesting

not sure we have 50/50 here

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1j7uhqn/brant_and_changli_team_whimpering_wastes_4700/

@scenic condor u tried this comp for wiwa already?

think with better rotation u can hit 5.2k easily

like timed the ult for big monbs that if those died insta spawn small ones and the lingering ult hit small mobs clearing 2-3 waves at once

[last nest]

Yes, I don't think we are getting more males any time soon with those sales

[ionic quiver]

dont know about that chief

jp brant has higher sell than fibi

brant first day is higher than fibi, altho this was debatable that brant release not on 1st day of patch so no maintenance

[last nest]

Those are cn only numbers?

[ionic quiver]

only CN

[last nest]

I thought it was aggregated. Well no surprises it's cn

[ionic quiver]

the surprise for me is this

starting pretty much slow

going up to 460k

this is after camellya massacre whole community gems

[marble sapphire]

It's PS5 release + additional publicity from 2.0

It's a newbie boom

[scenic condor]

has ww reset alrdy?

[ionic quiver]

not yet ig

[scenic condor]

then how could i have tried smh

[ionic quiver]

just redo the infinite smh

[scenic condor]

but ye this looks fire

lol scrolled down the comments

ppl clowning on prydwen

but for the brant placement i kinda agree with them

sigless brant is not that good

[ionic quiver]

ye and prydwen talk like all of us has R5 overture

its easier to get EOG than overture

and R5 overture is pretty much dogshit

[vapid prairie]

Overture only ever having on rateup

[scenic condor]

why is overture even listed as an option

it's bad

[ionic quiver]

idk

prydwen said its best weapon

[scenic condor]

no

[ionic quiver]

literally in their web

[scenic condor]

they didnt

im looking at it right now

[ionic quiver]

they did i ss it here

thats why people were madge

mis information pre release

[vapid prairie]

Obsession with the ER cap

[ionic quiver]

saying overture is his best

[scenic condor]

but

they werent saying that

[vapid prairie]

Pretty sure it says Overture as special case

[scenic condor]

like i hate prydwen as much as the next guy

but yall just cant read

they clearly say overture is only an option IF you wanna force tide set

(which you shouldnt)

basically if you dont have sig, forget about tide

and just go molten

thats why they put molten as his recommended set

and tide is listed as "special" set

just like how overture is listed in the "special" wep category

i agree it's a bit confusing at first glance tho

[ionic quiver]

ofc they change it

[scenic condor]

it was like this

on day 1

[vapid prairie]

Nah it's always been there

[ionic quiver]

no

[scenic condor]

yes

[ionic quiver]

on day 1 its this

[vapid prairie]

Even in earlier screenshots

[ionic quiver]

here

[scenic condor]

i know cause i was watching selkey stream

[ionic quiver]

listed on the top

[scenic condor]

and he went thru prydwen

[vapid prairie]

And it says Special

[scenic condor]

it says SPECIAL

you just proved my point

[vapid prairie]

rsv moment

[scenic condor]

the only change is that they added his sig for special too later cause they realized it can be confusing for ppl

[ionic quiver]

all of them

sid

said

special

point?

[scenic condor]

there were 2 categories from the beginning

[ionic quiver]

so u say his sign is also special weapon?

[scenic condor]

special and default

in their way of categorizing, yes

if we think of "special" = enabling tidebreaker

and "default" = molten

[ionic quiver]

thats literally the point of mis information that people talked about

they were fixated on tidebreaker

so in a list of details, theres special and default, u look at default first?

[scenic condor]

i just....read

anyway

lets stop this

you are making me defend prydwen

and it hurts

they are a clowns and they arrange it confusingly initially

heck it's still confusing a bit

with the special thing

[ionic quiver]

thats the problem

dude

the layout itself

already confuse people

and they put overture on special weapons

on the TOP

like i SS

then changing overture into 2nd and put his sign

?????????????????

they have been saying its not worth getting his sign

thus overture R5 on the top of special list

[scenic condor]

kek

[ionic quiver]

and then when the result are differnet

they change it

thats literally the point

why people madge

look at maygi calc thread, top comment

exactly why prydwen should stop calc stuff like this

[scenic condor]

i agree prdywen is bad xd

now let me go wash myself

cause this defending made me dirty

maygi should make a website

[ionic quiver]

this is the point that people madge

i also madge at them when they actually support this

like i get it sign non sign its optional

but saying R5 overture > sign is delulu

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Narushioww/status/1899178803324498359 ..oh my God

[last nest]

Gacha moba maybe with shooting ala apex?

[radiant fox]

RTS gacha game... Wut?

[open copper]

I think they don’t have an actual idea of the gameplay, and are at very early stages of it