#Wuthering Waves
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🙃 ....that does sound like a luck issue
Switch to standard gun 
78% with SK
its 78% / 300%

imagine its suppose to be 270k
then it hit like 78k

fuck that shit 
just crit 4head
Be like me. Miss because overworld enemy has slight elevation
what is this
They really are direct with this one huh
i am mildly surprised to see the furry question there yes
i doubt that one would score highly or at all but they bothered
Imagine a character with the mentality and willfulness of a cat
Any questions about Lorelei?
not Lorelei specifically but you can have her as a favorite...
they outright ask you who's your favourite character in one question
favorite echo will always be my bros inferno rider
seems 2.1 beta download up from beta testers
Rectifier Phoebe, Sword Brant
Phoebe...might be channeling Cardcaptor Sakura
ht tps://wuthering.wiki/character_1506.html Phoebe kit, materials are likely placeholder
Spectro, uses Frazzle
the link is dead
mind the space
>-When Outro Skill Attentive Heart, on-field Resonators in the team obtain the Silent Prayer effect: enemies within a certain range have their Spectro RES decreased by 10%, after enemies with the Spectro Frazzle Effect trigger DMG, the next time DMG is dealt by theSpectro Frazzle Effect, the DMG duration is increased by 50%, and the Spectro Frazzle Effect DMG is amplified by 100%. 🙃 Spectro Rover partner!
ht tps://wuthering.wiki/character_1206.html Brant kit
Fusion, liberation heals
Deal Fusion DMG to the target within the attack range and enter Aflame mode that heals all Resonators in the team for 12s.
Can be performed in mid-air.
Aflame
When Normal Attack or Resonance Skill Anchors Aweigh! hits the target, Bravo Regen is increased by 100%. Meanwhile, Forte Circuit Staged Moment is replaced by My Moment.
My Moment
Additionally increase Brant's ATK based on his Energy Regen: When Brant's Energy Regen exceeds 150%, for every 1% of Energy Regen beyond 150%, Brant gains a 20 increase of ATK, up to 2600.``` yeah, i correctly called him wanting Tidebreaker Courage
Weapon?
pretty much confirms that Zhani will be frazzle as well
CR for Phoebe, ER for Brant weapons
I mean what weapon type
i said earlier :< Rectifier, Sword
Brant might deal some reasonable decent to good damage since his kit seems to have some amount of offense in it but his liberation does heal
crit rectifirer? New competition for stringmaster as best generic?
kind of like a Paladin type kit
Mamma mia 
they might change Phoebe, the Spectro Frazzle set already gives Crit Rate + CR Rectifier = easy to overcap
you can go for crit damage body in that cause
i guess that's about it for now, i dont see any stats or anything for Aero Rover
maybe 2.2
i know elsewhere somebody keeps bugging me about no info on Phoebe and Brant and I am content to not bother telling that guy because he's freaking annoying
seems Brant does indeed synergize with Changli at any rate since his outro buffs Fusion and Skill
But I like what they are doing with new releases. They are not stricktly powercreeping Jinhsi
though Changli is also known for quickswap sooo hm
They still need to give us the final Havoc Rover dupe

so some say maybe Brant might not be that synergistic...
possibly
anyway, so it seems Phoebe surprisingly works with the now buffed Spectro Rover. Well nothing wrong with that
Prob rover is going to be placeholder for Zani than
i guess my temptation to roll for dupes is gone now
time to go wait for 2.1 and do dailies
yes brant isn't meant to be played with quickswap at all
Prob means we will have another fusion dps soon no mater what leaks are saying
wait
so brant is a healer that isnt going to buff teammates?
theres a few candidates, theres a Fisalia lady apparently in that castle who might be playable, theres also Phorolova, etc
he buffs fusion and skill on outro, but his kit seems to be hybrid damage/healing
because your not gonna run the heal set, so you arent going to buff your teammates
Phrolova is going to be havoc for sure. Hecate is her echo so she is going to be midnight veil user
i likened Brant to a Paladin type
ehhh, if brant isnt gonna be like
my baizhi replacement
then all interest is lost
why would I want a fusion supporter
when I have changli
i really hope
zani is a jinhshi sub dps
or a healer
anyway, this is all datamine...i guess people need time to download to show off animations
possible placeholder mats, they can change it
Shielder
I can finally be skilled issued
Damn. Kyle taking over Sekka
Russian jumpscare
Damn. Phoebe doesn't want us to use her friends' cores to ascend her
Doesn't stop me from using them in conversion because fuck Whisperin
Fanart still having the headcanon that Zani's mark is on her tongue
Thought you are going to be free from whispering farm? Back to the mines we go
You'll never take me back to Port Guixu alive
||Haha. I'm busy nowadays.||
Speaking of which.
||i blame friend but the map are so tiny||
Maybe there's more underground. Unless this post is mistaken.
critical hit is crit rate and reso effiency is energy regen
below is the original cn version
Welcome back lux from league of legends
Close enough, hello Liv
I love it
Looks like less scuffed pixel boy from genshin
but
phoebe is fkin
circle impact
im very disappointed
thats a fkin smol circle too
brant is actually watanabe
like most of that is just epitaph really
Who
pgr
i somehow feel like brant could have been flashier xd
and he seems to need the new ER set
so no healer set in that team
hmm freaking laser beams
Cantarella
looks sussy
anyway... ||apparently she resides in that Porto something castle. And is a known Fisalian, well the color scheme matches||
So we are getting a 2nd frazzler
duo damage with SRover
hmm
Captain Brant and Changli the Parrot
I think brant's role is a bit questionable rn. Is he going to be a 2nd Changli for quick swap with that kit?
no idea
maid pff. wheres my eyeroll
honestly
brant seems kinda underwhelming
mainly cause i cant put him with jiyan
but hes gonna be good for carlotta
for a support he sure does not have anything in his kit
besides that outro buff
not even a teamwide atk buff
all his dupes are dmg related
but hes gonna be hell to build for dmg cause his sig is ER sub
and he wants a lot of ER
so hard to fit in good cv
and will want the ER set not the healer set
so even less buff
i expected more buffs 
I don't think she is a maid.
that headpiece
looks maid to me
but issokay
im keeping an open mind
😄
brant seems to be meant for changli tho
midair combo kit
that matches changli's qs spam
and short skill cd
for even more swaps
think they are sisters
@scenic condor || https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/78Xj4oqZi3
HE ARE ORANGES AND HE WAS K ||

100+10+12.8+2x32+5x9=231.8
Anyone have any idea how to get the last 20% ER for brant?
Don't wanna use Overture?
brant is a support?
always has been
hes more of a subdps
has no teamwide buffs like other healers
and wont be using healer set either probably
roll sig
cause he wants 280% total er
not 250
but im not even sure what we are maximizing his ER for
he wont have good cv
so he wont really have good dmg
so....i dont even know what to do about him
as it is he just seems like an outro bot with some healing and a shield thats useless cause we can dodge and the healing itself doesnt provide buffs cuz no healer set UNLESS we run him on the healer set
EoG for CR
they need to decide what hes for
if he wants to be a proper subdps
then this ER buillshit has to go
cuz no way u can stack decent cv
while needing 280 er
if he wants to be a proper support then give him teamwide buff
Maybe do what raiden did in genshin?
give him 60% def ignore on c2?

yea thats not gonna fix it
raiden was cope as a dps without c2
shes good cause she fuels the team a lot
Hey, it worked for me
Maybe give him bonus to CV depending on his Er?
yeah that works
or just give him teamwide buffs
and then hes a proper support
like sk
who also get her buffs based on ER
Maybe he is meh cause he is going to be free
Pgr privilege
wdym
pgr privilege
lee is THE most fucked over pgr character in terms of how the devs treated him
thats no privilege
also carlotta got lee's actual kit
xd
New frame soon trust
plus brant is wata
that sword+pistol
the rope
the spin is just wata red orb
the dash behind is wata yellow orb
etc etc
I am excited for Phoebe tho
Her kit seems very neet
but
WHY THE CIRCLE
OMG
can we not have the circle
PLEASE
or make it bigger
how am i gonna catch the mobile bosses with that circle
That's for dupes
eye fucking roll
E1 probebly makes it bigger
Similar to sk S1 being more qol
Brant sword tho is very interesting even outside Brant
Cause we don't have another good support sword
Wait we do? I missed that
That c1 and c2 look very strong
Hmm
So the team is going to be Phoebe Srover and sk?
At least until Zani kicks rover out
Phoebe animations are a CCS reference.
Fuck I must get her.
2.1 looks like pain to me
read Carlotta's profile again since somebody mentioned it with regards to a possible upcoming character and it seems in archive 3 ||she once danced a deadly waltz brimming with mindgames and hostility with a Fisalian during a party. There was mention of poison being used, its implied to be Cantarella||
Another repeated endgame is coming with 1.1
Def 🚯
i'll take 4 out of 5 :(
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the lowroll is real
aaah i have been cooking brant for hours now
that sig needs to be buffed
put something like 0.5 crit after every 1% ER exceeding 250 up to 280
then it lines up with his forte/lib wanting 280
and it's only 15 crit so not like HUGE but it would help
yeah I don't pay that much attention to low rolls if I get the correct substats
They'll probably realize the problem like they did with Shorekeeper. Because for now, stacking attack is questionable
The final stage of her realm used to give ATK instead of CDMG
Assuming rn that Brant is on Overture instead of sig (375 + 337 = 712 base attack). Each 1% of ER above 150 gives him 20 ATK when enhanced.
ER substats range from 6.8-12.4% which translate to 136-248 ATK
ATK% substats range from 6.4-11.6% which translate to 45-82 ATK
Unless I'm missing something, it seems you build him on double crit + ER instead of putting ATK% on second priority compared to other damage dealers since his base attack is so low.
what are you saying
we know he wants that 280% ER
it's just how are u gonna have decent cv on him
I'm just wondering how they want us to build him
they want us to have mad fkin luck
a non-cv sig is out of the question
if you want dps
Because him having crit on his traces is as questionable as Jianxin having them 
so on one hand
they need to fkin decide
if they want him to be a subdps then give him extra cv somewhere
or self cv buff
or something
no dps will happen without a cv sig imo
atk sigs are lie for a reason
but if they want him to be a sk-type er scaling buffer
then give him some teamwide buffs
hes got nothing
besides outro
so you can just ignore the entire ER thing
go heal set
and call it a day
Yeah. I hope they fix up his kit because I'm not seeing the vision
😄 😄 😄
brother, go read kit
hes not even a healer i would say
brother just want main DPS
So we're not just using him for heals?
no
he is the highest atk numbers in the game
if u reach the ER% needed
and he want to do basic attack
I don't see much of his kit that is unique except heal on ult and atk boost from ER
so u heal with him
he has 10k atk
u swap him out?
with 10k + 30% fusion damage bonus and all sort of buff?
even his sign weapon buff him
altho i see things different from ariel
they purposely do that do him
if u manage to crit with the man, u are literally god
hes like kokomi but 2x better
Finally did the survey.
echo buff
weapon buff
his own buff
and potentially u can do the ER buff from other to him as well to take the stage
It’s literally Build-a-Waifu/Husbando
His own buff isn't just Er to Atk?
and the main echo buff if iirc about nightmare rider
thats not big number?
2600+1560
in atk
flat
Is that really good?
how much atk u have in carlotta
Oh, I don't have her
how much atk u have in jinhsi
the highest atk claymore users in the game
u compare to brant in term of atk number
we can manipulate the buff
2k something iirc?
but those numbers arent really fucking logical
4160 atk increase
ariel trying to build him to CV main DPS
to abuse the 4160 atk increase
with the echo buff that gave fusion damage
now i finally understand the 280% ER echo set
this is for him
@scenic condor STC, i think brant shield should give 30% of his total atk to the active member
then u can forget about the CV and brant become #1 supp
Oh I get it now, he's like Arle in Genshin
His heal is just self sustain
And use big PP atk number
Is that it?
something like that
note , STC
if brant design like this its actually not that impressive to me
but if his kit design to like what i said
then its fucking insane
shield in WUWA is overrated because we are already know how to dodge
siheld in this gameplay vs any boss = genshin again
Uh huh
on the other hand the average player might not be that good 
a character giving a shield can be considered just giving options to those who might need it
Shield in this game would need to completely negate the dmg of one attack to be actually useful
Otherwise you're just getting one shot in high difficulty
its not the matter of whether you need it or not or anything, perhaps its not useful or anything to a decent to high skill player but having the option to begin with is appreciated for those who prefer to have it or might actually want it
Average and below average players would definitely appreciate it
But if it becomes a crutch it's going to be problematic
And if it's not that useful in the endgame it's not going to sell well
A fail-safe like from the 5* healers i can accept
A 10-20k shield not so much
We want people to get better at combat
The bull on top on Jinzhou's mountain one tapped me 
let's be real, the average player isn't good at combat...
and likely won't get better at all
https://fixupx.com/sloowlwy/status/1877702216762478860 on another look, yup she actually has CCS Flight card...
the way she rides her staff is so cute omg and that little wings or whatever is that looks so pretty
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Hoyofair but for us
give me the skin

man i am not THAT bad 
wdym 10k atk
Still don't really have an idea what brant's position is supposed to be
250 ER is necessary from my observation and anything beyond that is optional
hes a mess rn
thinking that just by having high atk he will do good dps
is mega copium
He's somewhere in limbo between Buff and DPS in the beta

Kuro has some work to do
hrm they say KR version of WuWa has had pretty awful TL quality...concerning for them though I recognize there's not much I myself can do
More skins incoming in 2.4
My wallet...
Maybe one of them going to be free
But well, I am skiping on Jinhsi so I can at least get Carlotta skin(since I don't have changli)
Im gettin car
yes
thats why me and red both are spamming lootmapper to get the extra extra golden delight, 20 asterite
the one where you have to 100% get all the chests is fucking Desorock
and theres a good amount of hidden chests in such a vast area, good luck!
2.4 summer update trust
Rinascita is a good place for a coastal vacation so hm
question
if I want to use cam's normal spin, not the vine spin
I have to level her normal attack right?
yeah i do
Souine ahh route
Not if he loses everything to Roccia
no, she goes into new team with SRover/Zani that focuses around frazzle
is there a reason i want frazzle
It's another way to play. Better Aoe, isn't crit relint like Jinhsi, maybe new content would favour it in the future who knows
I don't have Jinhsi to know but does the new DoT charge her nuke or does it not count?
it...shouldnt
since its not a coordinated attack
i am not rolling because of meta anyway
in this case
Thought it charges by dealing damage in general but does it faster when it's Coordinated
something tells me i might be shooting myself in the foot if I finish exploring Ragunna region too fast...
then I am left with nothing to do but wait/farm 
Well. The exploration feels like it's designed with the casual player or someone who plays in short sessions in mind
did you
i already said on record i didnt touch coop due to lack of faith in fellow players
just play with friends
currently not even that hard
i once did it in the previous coop one and...i scored higher solo than with randos
that was an ouch moment
this is fake
this is the same thing that happened last time with the ban waves. and it turned out the ppl who got banned were not cause of someone else in coop using hacks or anything it's because those players bought their accs for cheap from cn resellers and stuff which is against tos
Can't believe people are still falling for that
ikr
New sus leaks but seems to mostly line up with stepleaker
female female female female
so good
jiyan powercreep
love it
kill the males we have even
obviously brant will not sell well cause husbando players saved up enough for him and hes sandwiched between phoebe and cantarella so ppl will skip him
and then we can continue the "males dont sell well" self fulfilling narrative
and get 1 male per region or something
and then they put out a female fusion buffer
so what is brant even gonna do

Some of these characters are probably 4*.
I don't think so? Maybe Ciaccona cause we have little information on her but the rest should be 5 stars
Except for ? cause who knows what that is
kuro is obsessed with characters names starting with C
we have so many of them now
brant needs to get an all-dmg amp
on outro
That'd be kinda busted
Well, as it currently stands, his kit is pretty directionless.
why
every healer has that
he has nothing
no teamwide buffs whatsoever so bad for healer slot, not enough dmg to be a subdps
like his only role will be to outro to carlotta ig
if someone has no zhezhi
and thats about it
i dont understand why everyone thinks so 1 dimensional of brant
hes not a healer
hes more support sub dps with really good base dmg
offers a shield and a sub par heal
also meant for fusion more then anything else
if u want a general healer jus run verina and go on about ur day
cant wait to hear people prononce that doble c as a S instead of a k
my ears aaint ready
at least in the jp dub they try to pronounce it correctly i have ptsd from hearing cristoforo pronounced in english dub
jokes on you. I'll pronounce Cia in two syllables
i want someone who adds something to my team
im not thinking about him 1d
he wants to do too many things
and he wont do any of them well
i dont see how he can be a decent subdps with lack of cv
he doesnt have any teamwide buffs, nothing
hes supposedly made for changli cause he is also very quickswap reliant (being a midair unit) however his outro will just fall off changli in a second (whos also very qs reliant) so i dont even see how that works out
his shield doesnt transfer to the active character for some reason
so all he really does is the skill amp for carlotta and some negligbile healing
for carlotta specfically i see the vision as shes also good for qs but has a clear burst window that she wants the outro for
so they will be a good match
but thats about it
but maybe im wrong and maybe he will do decent damage even without cv - which in return would make him easy to build cause no cv mald needed just stuff him full of ER and atk subs and thats it
we shall see
also people have been waiting for a 3rd healer to kick out baizhi so thats also why it feels weird that hes a fake healer only
THAT said
im gonna roll him 100%
no question about that
i just want a bit more out of him
like give him a sanhua s6 in his kit somewhere at least
or something
pls
cause sanhua is a damn 4* sure she doesnt heal but she does respectable damage, she does it fast, she provides a teamwide buff and a great outro for ppl who can use it
so i expect a 5* to do better
huh, i just notice for the plushie band, the song they play appropriately has missing instruments if not all of the instruments are present
theres one thats just drum and flute and the song doesnt have string components heh
its not that complicated i assume but its attention
it is done
Because that's some serious outro powercreep
who to powercrept
wut. litreally baizhi has it
and shes a free 4* xd
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It's been a week since Wuthering Waves (WUWA) launched and I can finally make a verdict on what you...
Sonance Casket 
Increase Crit by the amount you collected
kek
Baizhi does not have all dmg amp from my memory
Nvm
I thought we were talking about all dmg amp by 38% for 1 character
Like, powercreep every support
Update 2.1 beta: Brant against a TD
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who do u take me for lol
no i just wanted the regular 15% amp
teamwide
cause that fits into a quickswap comp more
cuz ur not losing it
True
leakers being stupid again
what is this supposed to show off?
why would you ult the END of the rota
you have to ult at the start so he gets 100% forte gen boost
no shit hes hitting for an hour there 
Their fortes are still WiP right?
we have them now
Wait already?
heres brant forte proc
it screams swapcancel ofc
Yup
Brant's Forte proc
ehh
all i see is ulpianus
nautilus also works
however what concerns me
is that there's no shield

where is his shield
the hp bar has no shield
I mean, the visual is there
wtf is she doing here
Man phoebe animations are too cute
She's a little witch
Gotta saveeee
just swipe gg
Duh
Dang, you're rich
I'm around half that
lmao
i dont even reach 1k atm
cause i havent being playing much
i gotta start doing events quests and explore
i legitamately do not know where they came from
since i havent played since launh
gg
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
@vapid prairie
Sounds like a bug to me.
Maybe it’s a Carthisomething placeholder that found it’s way to her.
I ain't trusting her
@versed solar Is there any difference in pronunciation between Fleurdelys and Fleur-de-lis? Just trying to figure out if there's a connection
Cartethyia's aliases are Fleurdelys and the Blessed Maiden.
Fleur-de-lis is a symbol which has some religious connotations but the notable one here is the Virgin Mary also known as the Blessed Mlther
Prolly the way it's said like fleur de lis a bit slower
How so?
Enphasis on the spaces? Tbh French is not my forte xD
Ah right. It's a French symbol as well
real
yes. we did
Never forget Cold Churro
You mean charcoal?
cute
the last level of the event was just outright brutal 
they love to inflict DoT on you and it drains rapidly
perhaps maybe easier in coop
it is always easier in coop
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What the fuck
Actually flying
Well that was out of the blue
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#Roccia
@zealous grove
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the income or the upcoming events
the income and the upcoming events detail
where's our math guy for this ? @zealous grove

Slacking 
Sekka help 
i have 5.5k + 3 pulls
by the end of rococo pulls
how much
welkin on no BP

i am at like 40 or 50 into a banner, and i got..60 rolls
i think i'll make it at least in terms of getting at least 1 character
imma just get rococo and forgot the rest of the banner
its Jinhsi
You'd probably get approximately 23 additional pulls starting today to approximate end of Roccia banner, disregarding events, from just Daily + Lunite.
so i will have like 80 pulls + events
Oh yeah, I didn't factor tower as well, so probably. My calc was around 63 pulls.
Rococo 
Mamma mia 
no Cammy, so not much usecase for Roccia + Phoebe hooked me so waiting for 2.1 for me
u fuck
at least give me encore / verina
Use the selector
You guys also saving your selector?
We're getting another one soon
we dont get free rolls or anything from raising characters so...no point in completing my standard collection
I already have all the standard weps and characters
Currently spending standard rolls on a second Rectifier
i thought this was for new player?
Nevermind 
🤝
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1i398o7/ww_beta_update_213_brant_changes/ it seems Phoebe wasnt changed at all so perhaps her kit is considered fine as it is
his forte was strongly buffed
1660% ish total scaling on forte, the second highest scaling of the game from a single skill, only behind full forte jinhsi blast
and his lib was nerfed in return
it's a good buff but it's mostly a power shift
and a pointless one at that
but it is an overall damage increase
but since you have to lib at the start of the rota anyway
they just moved his frontload dmg into backload
also his kit is still a bit....aimless
like yes now i can see that hes just a subdps with some extra healing and shield tacked on which doesnt matter anyway
but the ER scaling making it really hard to build decent cv on him
is just a weird choice to me
sk's ER scaling makes sense cause her buff scales from it too AND she gets guaranteed crit on her only good damaging ability so you dont even need to build crit on her
brant's ER scaling does not make sense cause he is not a support and making him just get flat attack conversion from ER but needing a LOT of it is just....pointless, and is just gating him. since he has a very very low base atk he doesnt actually get THAT ahead. and without cv it's even worse
they should scrap the ER thing, and just make him a regular subdps a la sanhua etc.
I mean, he actually deals good damage unlike sanhua
and before someone says but raiden works the same. yes. she does but it's easier to build good cv in genshin cause less overall subs to roll and the crit mainstats are also higher number
sanhua deals good damage if you properly built her and she deals it FAST. brant will not be fast and i really dont see how he can be a great dps running on pure atk and no crit
My only gripe with him currently is his very strict ER requirement of 250% which you cannot achieve without an ER weapon from i can see
Even with ER echoes making his dmg% suffer
Building him just seems incredibly awkward
Also general question, what do you guys think of a hypothetical character who converts overheal into damage?
For a character who is a fusion of healer/dealer
Probably not gonna happen for a long while.
Kuro seems to prefer healing to be on the low side.
An Overheal DPS would be completely busted.
It’s for the better. If you make Sustain too powerful, you either have to force the enemies to do spam One-shots, or be HP Sponges
How so?
Using such a character on your team makes taking hits even more detrimental to your overall DPS output
If it ticks at 1k/s heal and does 5k/s dmg if at full health
Taking a hit of 10k damage means a damage loss of 50k
Punish for taking hits by dealing less damage per rota
Seems pretty fair to me
Well, it depends on how strongly they heal.
If they can vomit healing like crazy, you can just keep on face tanking
Definitely not too much, since the detriment needs to be significant
Just make the dmg they deal scale of what they would have healed*5 or smth
Just don't make them scale off other healing sources and you'd be fine
(looking at spectro rover and brant)
so basically ohc set from genshin?
heal numbers are kinda shit in wuwa so far
so it's gotta be some strong ass healer
for those numbers to pop
they just made him more complicated to build for no goddamn reason
if he had a teambuff that scales off ER in addition to the atk convert then i'd say okay. i see the vision
but as it is this is just extra hoops to end up at worse damage than usual dpses
his skills dont even have ER modifiers
like.....i dont get why they do this
as it is hes just changli with extra build difficulty
and if we ignore this and just go for the outro then hes sanhua with extra steps
and a slower rota
his req is 280% btw
if you wanna maximize the conversion
honestly they could just do away with all of this ER bullshit, give him a normal base atk so we can put him on molten and atk atk and just be a male changli
Just reducing that ER threshold would be enough, I think.
I don't think 280% is worth it
250 is the minimum and anything beyond is a bonus, no?
I feel like if you go all the way to 280 you sacrifice too much dmg% and crit
Because of diminishing returns
250 is already too much sacrifice
you cant fkin build cv with 250 er
that means you have an er wep
so ur cv is fked
Yeah
so i dont get this guy at all
hes probably just male cursed
pgr male curse reached wuwa
Not being able to equip EoG is a big downside
i think
we ignore the 250 er
we ignore the er set
and just go molten
and normal dps
his base atk is low but
if ppl can make chixia dps work with 300 base atk
he can work with 375
Wait, do we not know his ascension passives?
we do
20% healing boost from forte and fusion dmg 15%

so one is garbage the other is whatever
Where I can't find it
hakushin
honestly in my eyes hes good for outro bot
if his concerto can be procced in decent time
Ah thanks
and then just slap heron set on him and thats it
so slower sanhua with an outro thats useful for carlotta or something
that healing boost is so fking cloooown
they really trying to sell him as a healer with zero buffs in his kit 
like we need healing for anything but buff proccing
Bro those ascension passives are worse than Changli

Change healing bonus to ER and maybe he'll be playable
he will still suck ass
look at roccia
thats how an element specific subdps should look like
he really doesnt tho

like sure the mv on that forte skill is decent
great even
but without cv what are u gonna do?
it's like trying to play jinshi and failing the crit
while having shit cdmg in addition
is what i said excatly. just build him heron subdps or try going changli molten build
and then we ignore the "core" of his kit
so hes half a character
with no innate boosts
yay
Question rn is if you can get his lib with low ER
Man, i was looking forward to him
they should change his sig if they wanna sell the solution
add something like
above 250% er he gets 0.5 crit per 1% er up to 280
so he gets like 15% extra crit or something
His sig is so specialized it only works on him specifically
and his sig isnt even good
Ye
like....at this point i mightaswell skip
and just go for changli
😄
idunno man
i truly hope im just blind to something
and hes secretly great
Depending on how long he takes to push all his dmg he may be fine but low crit is definitely going to hold him back a lot
According to leaks yes.
Prob means that Phrolova is also coordinate attack enjoier like Jinhsi
Is she a replacement for zhezhi in jinhsi teams
Because I don't see her replacing verina
Her outro gives the same buff
hmm, true, I didn't think about that
maybe she is like brant more subdps than actuall healer
I wonder what kuro's plan is by including healing/shield into sub DPS characters
bet that's gonna be like brant. so then shes not really gonna replace verina
cause she wont be carryign a healer set
but some other set
tho shes female
so she might have a kit that works

Yeah ofc
Hold up, conspiracy theory time
Did they make brant easy to play, to build and very forgiving because they believe that female players have a lower average skill level?

how is he easy to build lol
anyway lemme calc a bit
Just stack ER
maybe this is salvageable
I don't think so
let me think
4* ER sword, ER echoes
Like 3-400k per rota?
kek
no
im counting with sig in mind
with sig you only need 1 er sub
to hit 250
with 3 3 er
so then we can go cv
cdmg 4cost
Ofc it's nothing good by endgame standards
he has crit traces
plus sig has 8%
if we count with an average crit sub of 8.4
thats 42 crit from there
+16 from sig and traces
Can't you 44111 if you have his sig?
No it's becouse he is going to be free obviosly(s)
To offset the lack if CV
double ER 3 cost is a must
and the er set is a must also if you wanna make up for the lack of dmg% 3 cost
Oh you still need double?
ofc
Brant is going to be very annoying to built
Can't half ass him like Carlotta
on all echos
My lord he's so picky
okay so

And you practicly need his sig
Which leeds me to belive he is going to be free
Cause people would still have to pull for sig anyway
Ariel please continue
No clue so far, still depends on what direction the devs set him on
I don't think we have details about his QS capabilities yet
I mean, one can nuke and then buff the nuke if the other. It's not completely off the table
the brant team I imagine
Since he looks like the workaround rather than support
Which is kind of ridiculous since every other team is built around the DPS
Well you have to build him as dps anyway so...
We don't have ANY ER buffing characters, right?
Now it depends if his numbers are any better than Changli
Pretty sure it's going to be similar by Kuro's track record
That reminds me, we are still missing a limited fusion main DPS

Scar when he escapes from jail
…
And both changli's and brant's outro buff skill, does that mean the fusion main DPS will also be skill based?
Wait, that Tianhu guy that appeared for 1 minute in the Black Cat event quest was also a pirate.
Kuro releasing 2 pirate males is weird.
He only appears as a side-profile. His model has actually been in the game for a while, but rough/incomplete.
ok so. lets add up ER first:
base 100
sig 177
2 ER 3 cost 237
set bonus 247
+1 sub of literally any value to hit 250
crit:
base 5
4 cost 27
5 average substats (7.5 each) 64.5
Sig 72.5
traces 80.5
cdmg
base 150
5 average substats (15 each) 225
so we end up with 80.5/225 OR we can swap to 4cdmg cost instead so that means -22 crit +44 cdmg so we end up at 58.5/269.
add sk to this and we can go with the 4cdmg choice ending up at 71/269
and this is average
That's quick scuffed ngl
yep
enjoy
thanks kuro
and honestly since hes kind of a nuker
i'd go with the crit 4cost 😄
actually with sk
it's not so bad
Who's the 3rd mate?
sk adds an extra 12.5 crit + 25 cdmg
carlotta
changli
encore
whoever benefits from fusion or skill outro
In that case Brant will only enjoy the cr
then go with the crit
and then we can go cdmg 4cost
and end up at 71/269
which is not so bad
375 base + 413 sig+ 2000 with lib (assuming 250% er) = 2788 total
not couting any atk% subs
outside atk buffs
Close enough estimate
Yeah
Raw statwise he's not that bad i guess
Question is how fast his rotation is
That'll probably decide his place in the meta

If it's quite long all i can see him in is QS
he is meant for qs
hes a damn midair unit
stuck in those combo animations
on the grapple
which is why i dont get why his only buff is his fkin outro
that doesnt fit qs at all

but ig changli is the same
hes literally male changli
You could say those sub DPS outros actually make them worse in QS
Since QS usually can't make proper use of them




