#Wuthering Waves

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ionic quiver
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@scenic condor i really pissed off with car CR

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78% she still cant crit

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should i do 100 / 250

marble sapphire
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🙃 ....that does sound like a luck issue

ionic quiver
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consistency

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im doing 100/250

marble sapphire
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or get 1 dupe i guess

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or run SK

vapid prairie
ionic quiver
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78% with SK

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its 78% / 300%

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imagine its suppose to be 270k

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then it hit like 78k

ionic quiver
north venture
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just crit 4head

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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new survey

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yandere 😄

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furry check

unreal magnet
marble sapphire
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new survey as i said

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asking players about their character trait preferences

unreal magnet
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They really are direct with this one huh

marble sapphire
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i am mildly surprised to see the furry question there yes

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i doubt that one would score highly or at all but they bothered

unreal magnet
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Imo, i don't mind

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If done properly i guess

marble sapphire
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well i was informed PGR had a centaur and mermaid character

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so huh

unreal magnet
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Both got humanoid-ized to their playable form

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If you get what i mean

ionic quiver
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tf

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furry

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next region japanese cat girl confirm

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weebs united

unreal magnet
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Imagine a character with the mentality and willfulness of a cat

vapid prairie
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Any questions about Lorelei?

marble sapphire
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not Lorelei specifically but you can have her as a favorite...

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they outright ask you who's your favourite character in one question

ionic quiver
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favorite echo will always be my bros inferno rider

marble sapphire
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seems 2.1 beta download up from beta testers

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Rectifier Phoebe, Sword Brant

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Phoebe...might be channeling Cardcaptor Sakura

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ht tps://wuthering.wiki/character_1506.html Phoebe kit, materials are likely placeholder

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Spectro, uses Frazzle

last nest
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the link is dead

marble sapphire
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mind the space

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>-When Outro Skill Attentive Heart, on-field Resonators in the team obtain the Silent Prayer effect: enemies within a certain range have their Spectro RES decreased by 10%, after enemies with the Spectro Frazzle Effect trigger DMG, the next time DMG is dealt by theSpectro Frazzle Effect, the DMG duration is increased by 50%, and the Spectro Frazzle Effect DMG is amplified by 100%. 🙃 Spectro Rover partner!

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ht tps://wuthering.wiki/character_1206.html Brant kit

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Fusion, liberation heals

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Deal Fusion DMG to the target within the attack range and enter Aflame mode that heals all Resonators in the team for 12s.
Can be performed in mid-air.

Aflame
When Normal Attack or Resonance Skill Anchors Aweigh! hits the target, Bravo Regen is increased by 100%. Meanwhile, Forte Circuit Staged Moment is replaced by My Moment.

My Moment
Additionally increase Brant's ATK based on his Energy Regen: When Brant's Energy Regen exceeds 150%, for every 1% of Energy Regen beyond 150%, Brant gains a 20 increase of ATK, up to 2600.``` yeah, i correctly called him wanting Tidebreaker Courage
vapid prairie
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Weapon?

last nest
marble sapphire
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CR for Phoebe, ER for Brant weapons

vapid prairie
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I mean what weapon type

marble sapphire
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i said earlier :< Rectifier, Sword

vapid prairie
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Ah

marble sapphire
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Brant might deal some reasonable decent to good damage since his kit seems to have some amount of offense in it but his liberation does heal

last nest
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crit rectifirer? New competition for stringmaster as best generic?

marble sapphire
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kind of like a Paladin type kit

last nest
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Okay. Guess I am skipping Roccia than

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I need Phoebe

vapid prairie
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Mamma mia notstonks

marble sapphire
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they might change Phoebe, the Spectro Frazzle set already gives Crit Rate + CR Rectifier = easy to overcap

last nest
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you can go for crit damage body in that cause

marble sapphire
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i guess that's about it for now, i dont see any stats or anything for Aero Rover

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maybe 2.2

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i know elsewhere somebody keeps bugging me about no info on Phoebe and Brant and I am content to not bother telling that guy because he's freaking annoying

last nest
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I think Aero rover will come with elf girl

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Or maybe with Zani

marble sapphire
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seems Brant does indeed synergize with Changli at any rate since his outro buffs Fusion and Skill

last nest
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But I like what they are doing with new releases. They are not stricktly powercreeping Jinhsi

marble sapphire
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though Changli is also known for quickswap sooo hm

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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so some say maybe Brant might not be that synergistic...

last nest
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Well Encore also exists

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Also prob a future fusion dps

marble sapphire
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possibly

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anyway, so it seems Phoebe surprisingly works with the now buffed Spectro Rover. Well nothing wrong with that

last nest
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Prob rover is going to be placeholder for Zani than

marble sapphire
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i guess my temptation to roll for dupes is gone now

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time to go wait for 2.1 and do dailies

last nest
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yes brant isn't meant to be played with quickswap at all

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Prob means we will have another fusion dps soon no mater what leaks are saying

old summit
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so brant is a healer that isnt going to buff teammates?

marble sapphire
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theres a few candidates, theres a Fisalia lady apparently in that castle who might be playable, theres also Phorolova, etc

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he buffs fusion and skill on outro, but his kit seems to be hybrid damage/healing

old summit
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because your not gonna run the heal set, so you arent going to buff your teammates

last nest
marble sapphire
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i likened Brant to a Paladin type

old summit
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ehhh, if brant isnt gonna be like

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my baizhi replacement

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then all interest is lost

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why would I want a fusion supporter

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when I have changli

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i really hope

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zani is a jinhshi sub dps

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or a healer

marble sapphire
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anyway, this is all datamine...i guess people need time to download to show off animations

marble sapphire
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possible placeholder mats, they can change it

young forge
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Shielder

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I can finally be skilled issued

vapid prairie
young forge
vapid prairie
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Damn. Phoebe doesn't want us to use her friends' cores to ascend her

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Doesn't stop me from using them in conversion because fuck Whisperin

vapid prairie
last nest
vapid prairie
weak jay
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@zealous grove

zealous grove
weak jay
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||i leave reddit leak to you||

weak jay
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i want to sent those but

weak jay
zealous grove
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Maybe there's more underground. Unless this post is mistaken.

weak jay
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critical hit is crit rate and reso effiency is energy regen

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below is the original cn version

young forge
young forge
scenic condor
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but

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phoebe is fkin

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circle impact

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im very disappointed

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thats a fkin smol circle too

young forge
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They adding cool movement abilities that fit theme of the place

scenic condor
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like most of that is just epitaph really

young forge
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Who

scenic condor
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pgr

young forge
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Isee

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Very cool

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And looking at kit i can run him in my changli charlotta overworld

scenic condor
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i somehow feel like brant could have been flashier xd

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and he seems to need the new ER set

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so no healer set in that team

marble sapphire
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hmm freaking laser beams

young forge
marble sapphire
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spot on comparisons

last nest
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Cantarella

marble sapphire
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looks sussy

unreal magnet
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Guys, it's the beta

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No judgements yet

marble sapphire
marble sapphire
# last nest Cantarella

anyway... ||apparently she resides in that Porto something castle. And is a known Fisalian, well the color scheme matches||

unreal magnet
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So we are getting a 2nd frazzler

marble sapphire
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duo damage with SRover

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hmm

vapid prairie
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Captain Brant and Changli the Parrot

unreal magnet
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I think brant's role is a bit questionable rn. Is he going to be a 2nd Changli for quick swap with that kit?

marble sapphire
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no idea

scenic condor
scenic condor
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brant seems kinda underwhelming

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mainly cause i cant put him with jiyan

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but hes gonna be good for carlotta

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for a support he sure does not have anything in his kit

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besides that outro buff

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not even a teamwide atk buff

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all his dupes are dmg related

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but hes gonna be hell to build for dmg cause his sig is ER sub

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and he wants a lot of ER

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so hard to fit in good cv

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and will want the ER set not the healer set

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so even less buff

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i expected more buffs sads

last nest
scenic condor
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that headpiece

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looks maid to me

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but issokay

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im keeping an open mind

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😄

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brant seems to be meant for changli tho

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midair combo kit

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that matches changli's qs spam

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and short skill cd

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for even more swaps

last nest
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think they are sisters

young forge
unreal magnet
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100+10+12.8+2x32+5x9=231.8

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Anyone have any idea how to get the last 20% ER for brant?

vapid prairie
versed solar
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brant is a support?

scenic condor
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hes more of a subdps

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has no teamwide buffs like other healers

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and wont be using healer set either probably

scenic condor
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cause he wants 280% total er

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not 250

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but im not even sure what we are maximizing his ER for

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he wont have good cv

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so he wont really have good dmg

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so....i dont even know what to do about him

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as it is he just seems like an outro bot with some healing and a shield thats useless cause we can dodge and the healing itself doesnt provide buffs cuz no healer set UNLESS we run him on the healer set

last nest
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He will get buffed imho

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Doesn't look super good to me atm

unreal magnet
scenic condor
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if he wants to be a proper subdps

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then this ER buillshit has to go

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cuz no way u can stack decent cv

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while needing 280 er

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if he wants to be a proper support then give him teamwide buff

last nest
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Maybe do what raiden did in genshin?

scenic condor
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yea thats not gonna fix it

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raiden was cope as a dps without c2

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shes good cause she fuels the team a lot

last nest
scenic condor
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ye but

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thats not the solution

last nest
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Maybe give him bonus to CV depending on his Er?

scenic condor
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yeah that works

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or just give him teamwide buffs

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and then hes a proper support

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like sk

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who also get her buffs based on ER

last nest
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Maybe he is meh cause he is going to be free

scenic condor
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but

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xy was free

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yet he's strong af

last nest
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Pgr privilege

scenic condor
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wdym

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pgr privilege

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lee is THE most fucked over pgr character in terms of how the devs treated him

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thats no privilege

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also carlotta got lee's actual kit

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xd

last nest
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New frame soon trust

scenic condor
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plus brant is wata

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that sword+pistol

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the rope

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the spin is just wata red orb

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the dash behind is wata yellow orb

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etc etc

last nest
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I am excited for Phoebe tho

scenic condor
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are you?

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do you like circle impact?

last nest
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Her kit seems very neet

scenic condor
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but

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WHY THE CIRCLE

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OMG

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can we not have the circle

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PLEASE

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or make it bigger

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how am i gonna catch the mobile bosses with that circle

last nest
scenic condor
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eye fucking roll

last nest
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E1 probebly makes it bigger

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Similar to sk S1 being more qol

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Brant sword tho is very interesting even outside Brant

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Cause we don't have another good support sword

scenic condor
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wdym probably

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we have her dupes

last nest
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Wait we do? I missed that

scenic condor
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theres no size increase

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anywhere here

last nest
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That c1 and c2 look very strong

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Hmm

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So the team is going to be Phoebe Srover and sk?

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At least until Zani kicks rover out

open copper
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Phoebe animations are a CCS reference.
Fuck I must get her.

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2.1 looks like pain to me

marble sapphire
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read Carlotta's profile again since somebody mentioned it with regards to a possible upcoming character and it seems in archive 3 ||she once danced a deadly waltz brimming with mindgames and hostility with a Fisalian during a party. There was mention of poison being used, its implied to be Cantarella||

versed solar
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finnally hit level 60

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can make resonator level 90

last nest
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Another repeated endgame is coming with 1.1

marble sapphire
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Eternal Radiance

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hm, probably more for Rover since Phoebe wants basic

ionic quiver
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Def 🚯

marble sapphire
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i'll take 4 out of 5 :(

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白天是声骸美容大师晚上拯救世界的我非常有活力!

-From WuWa New Year Party 2025
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#WutheringWaves #鳴潮 #Phoebe

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scenic condor
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aaah i have been cooking brant for hours now

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that sig needs to be buffed

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put something like 0.5 crit after every 1% ER exceeding 250 up to 280

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then it lines up with his forte/lib wanting 280

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and it's only 15 crit so not like HUGE but it would help

marble sapphire
vapid prairie
scenic condor
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what was with sk

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i forgot

vapid prairie
scenic condor
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oh okay

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well lets hope they do

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cause brant is kinda hard to fkin build for now

vapid prairie
# scenic condor cause brant is kinda hard to fkin build for now

Assuming rn that Brant is on Overture instead of sig (375 + 337 = 712 base attack). Each 1% of ER above 150 gives him 20 ATK when enhanced.

ER substats range from 6.8-12.4% which translate to 136-248 ATK
ATK% substats range from 6.4-11.6% which translate to 45-82 ATK

Unless I'm missing something, it seems you build him on double crit + ER instead of putting ATK% on second priority compared to other damage dealers since his base attack is so low.

scenic condor
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we know he wants that 280% ER

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it's just how are u gonna have decent cv on him

vapid prairie
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I'm just wondering how they want us to build him

scenic condor
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they want us to have mad fkin luck

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a non-cv sig is out of the question

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if you want dps

vapid prairie
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Because him having crit on his traces is as questionable as Jianxin having them KEKHands

scenic condor
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so on one hand

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they need to fkin decide

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if they want him to be a subdps then give him extra cv somewhere

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or self cv buff

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or something

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no dps will happen without a cv sig imo

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atk sigs are lie for a reason

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but if they want him to be a sk-type er scaling buffer

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then give him some teamwide buffs

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hes got nothing

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besides outro

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so you can just ignore the entire ER thing

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go heal set

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and call it a day

vapid prairie
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Yeah. I hope they fix up his kit because I'm not seeing the vision

old summit
radiant fox
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Why do you want him to crit? Isn't he just a heal bot?

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His heals can crit?

scenic condor
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😄 😄 😄

ionic quiver
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hes not even a healer i would say

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brother just want main DPS

radiant fox
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So we're not just using him for heals?

ionic quiver
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no

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he is the highest atk numbers in the game

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if u reach the ER% needed

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and he want to do basic attack

radiant fox
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I don't see much of his kit that is unique except heal on ult and atk boost from ER

ionic quiver
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so u heal with him

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he has 10k atk

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u swap him out?

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with 10k + 30% fusion damage bonus and all sort of buff?

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even his sign weapon buff him

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altho i see things different from ariel

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they purposely do that do him

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if u manage to crit with the man, u are literally god

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hes like kokomi but 2x better

radiant fox
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What other buff does he have?

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Is it from teammates and his weapon?

open copper
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Finally did the survey.

ionic quiver
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echo buff

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weapon buff

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his own buff

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and potentially u can do the ER buff from other to him as well to take the stage

open copper
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It’s literally Build-a-Waifu/Husbando

radiant fox
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His own buff isn't just Er to Atk?

ionic quiver
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and the main echo buff if iirc about nightmare rider

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thats not big number?

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2600+1560

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in atk

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flat

radiant fox
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Is that really good?

ionic quiver
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how much atk u have in carlotta

radiant fox
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Oh, I don't have her

ionic quiver
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how much atk u have in jinhsi

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the highest atk claymore users in the game

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u compare to brant in term of atk number

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we can manipulate the buff

radiant fox
ionic quiver
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but those numbers arent really fucking logical

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4160 atk increase

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ariel trying to build him to CV main DPS

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to abuse the 4160 atk increase

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with the echo buff that gave fusion damage

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now i finally understand the 280% ER echo set

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this is for him

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@scenic condor STC, i think brant shield should give 30% of his total atk to the active member

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then u can forget about the CV and brant become #1 supp

radiant fox
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Oh I get it now, he's like Arle in Genshin

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His heal is just self sustain

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And use big PP atk number

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Is that it?

ionic quiver
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something like that

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note , STC

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if brant design like this its actually not that impressive to me

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but if his kit design to like what i said

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then its fucking insane

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shield in WUWA is overrated because we are already know how to dodge

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siheld in this gameplay vs any boss = genshin again

radiant fox
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Uh huh

marble sapphire
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a character giving a shield can be considered just giving options to those who might need it

unreal magnet
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Shield in this game would need to completely negate the dmg of one attack to be actually useful

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Otherwise you're just getting one shot in high difficulty

marble sapphire
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its not the matter of whether you need it or not or anything, perhaps its not useful or anything to a decent to high skill player but having the option to begin with is appreciated for those who prefer to have it or might actually want it

unreal magnet
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Average and below average players would definitely appreciate it

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But if it becomes a crutch it's going to be problematic

And if it's not that useful in the endgame it's not going to sell well

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A fail-safe like from the 5* healers i can accept

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A 10-20k shield not so much

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We want people to get better at combat

ionic quiver
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what diffficulty that 1 shot people here

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i seen 0 tbh

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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and likely won't get better at all

vapid prairie
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Hoyofair but for us

marble sapphire
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man i am not THAT bad pepega

scenic condor
unreal magnet
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Still don't really have an idea what brant's position is supposed to be

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250 ER is necessary from my observation and anything beyond that is optional

scenic condor
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hes a mess rn

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thinking that just by having high atk he will do good dps

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is mega copium

unreal magnet
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He's somewhere in limbo between Buff and DPS in the beta

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Kuro has some work to do

marble sapphire
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that's what beta testing is for

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the idea is ambitious at least

unreal magnet
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Yup

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I bet the math guys at Kuro are scrambling

versed solar
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pls make brant good

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and free

marble sapphire
marble sapphire
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hrm they say KR version of WuWa has had pretty awful TL quality...concerning for them though I recognize there's not much I myself can do

last nest
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More skins incoming in 2.4

versed solar
last nest
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Maybe one of them going to be free

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But well, I am skiping on Jinhsi so I can at least get Carlotta skin(since I don't have changli)

ionic quiver
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Im gettin car

scenic condor
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wait explo gives you 100% even if u have chests left?

ionic quiver
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yes

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thats why me and red both are spamming lootmapper to get the extra extra golden delight, 20 asterite

marble sapphire
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the one where you have to 100% get all the chests is fucking Desorock

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and theres a good amount of hidden chests in such a vast area, good luck!

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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Rinascita is a good place for a coastal vacation so hm

old summit
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question

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if I want to use cam's normal spin, not the vine spin

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I have to level her normal attack right?

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yeah i do

marble sapphire
vapid prairie
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Souine ahh route

vapid prairie
old summit
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im skipping phoebe anyways

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unless shes a sub dps for jinhsi

last nest
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no, she goes into new team with SRover/Zani that focuses around frazzle

old summit
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is there a reason i want frazzle

last nest
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It's another way to play. Better Aoe, isn't crit relint like Jinhsi, maybe new content would favour it in the future who knows

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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it...shouldnt

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since its not a coordinated attack

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i am not rolling because of meta anyway

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in this case

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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something tells me i might be shooting myself in the foot if I finish exploring Ragunna region too fast...

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then I am left with nothing to do but wait/farm KEKHands

vapid prairie
last nimbus
marble sapphire
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apparently you can get banned if in coop somebody else cheated

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so...don't coop

marble sapphire
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i already said on record i didnt touch coop due to lack of faith in fellow players

marble sapphire
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currently not even that hard

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i once did it in the previous coop one and...i scored higher solo than with randos

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that was an ouch moment

scenic condor
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this is the same thing that happened last time with the ban waves. and it turned out the ppl who got banned were not cause of someone else in coop using hacks or anything it's because those players bought their accs for cheap from cn resellers and stuff which is against tos

unreal magnet
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Can't believe people are still falling for that

scenic condor
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ikr

last nest
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New sus leaks but seems to mostly line up with stepleaker

scenic condor
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so good

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jiyan powercreep

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love it

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kill the males we have even

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obviously brant will not sell well cause husbando players saved up enough for him and hes sandwiched between phoebe and cantarella so ppl will skip him

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and then we can continue the "males dont sell well" self fulfilling narrative

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and get 1 male per region or something

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and then they put out a female fusion buffer

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so what is brant even gonna do

open copper
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Some of these characters are probably 4*.

scenic condor
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probably yes

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nevertheless. all females. again

last nest
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Except for ? cause who knows what that is

scenic condor
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kuro is obsessed with characters names starting with C

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we have so many of them now

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brant needs to get an all-dmg amp

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on outro

unreal magnet
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That'd be kinda busted

open copper
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Well, as it currently stands, his kit is pretty directionless.

scenic condor
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every healer has that

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he has nothing

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no teamwide buffs whatsoever so bad for healer slot, not enough dmg to be a subdps

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like his only role will be to outro to carlotta ig

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if someone has no zhezhi

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and thats about it

frigid gyro
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i dont understand why everyone thinks so 1 dimensional of brant

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hes not a healer

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hes more support sub dps with really good base dmg

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offers a shield and a sub par heal

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also meant for fusion more then anything else

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if u want a general healer jus run verina and go on about ur day

versed solar
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my ears aaint ready

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at least in the jp dub they try to pronounce it correctly i have ptsd from hearing cristoforo pronounced in english dub

vapid prairie
scenic condor
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im not thinking about him 1d

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he wants to do too many things

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and he wont do any of them well

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i dont see how he can be a decent subdps with lack of cv

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he doesnt have any teamwide buffs, nothing

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hes supposedly made for changli cause he is also very quickswap reliant (being a midair unit) however his outro will just fall off changli in a second (whos also very qs reliant) so i dont even see how that works out

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his shield doesnt transfer to the active character for some reason

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so all he really does is the skill amp for carlotta and some negligbile healing

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for carlotta specfically i see the vision as shes also good for qs but has a clear burst window that she wants the outro for

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so they will be a good match

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but thats about it

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but maybe im wrong and maybe he will do decent damage even without cv - which in return would make him easy to build cause no cv mald needed just stuff him full of ER and atk subs and thats it

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we shall see

scenic condor
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THAT said

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im gonna roll him 100%

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no question about that

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i just want a bit more out of him

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like give him a sanhua s6 in his kit somewhere at least

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or something

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pls

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cause sanhua is a damn 4* sure she doesnt heal but she does respectable damage, she does it fast, she provides a teamwide buff and a great outro for ppl who can use it

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so i expect a 5* to do better

marble sapphire
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huh, i just notice for the plushie band, the song they play appropriately has missing instruments if not all of the instruments are present

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theres one thats just drum and flute and the song doesnt have string components heh

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its not that complicated i assume but its attention

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it is done

unreal magnet
old summit
ionic quiver
scenic condor
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and shes a free 4* xd

versed solar
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vapid prairie
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Sonance Casket GinHeh

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Increase Crit by the amount you collected

versed solar
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kek

unreal magnet
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Nvm

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I thought we were talking about all dmg amp by 38% for 1 character

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Like, powercreep every support

scenic condor
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no i just wanted the regular 15% amp

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teamwide

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cause that fits into a quickswap comp more

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cuz ur not losing it

unreal magnet
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True

scenic condor
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what is this supposed to show off?

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why would you ult the END of the rota

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you have to ult at the start so he gets 100% forte gen boost

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no shit hes hitting for an hour there WheezeTao

unreal magnet
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Their fortes are still WiP right?

scenic condor
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we have them now

unreal magnet
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Wait already?

scenic condor
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heres brant forte proc

unreal magnet
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Oh nice

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Thanks

scenic condor
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it screams swapcancel ofc

unreal magnet
vapid prairie
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Brant's Forte proc

scenic condor
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ehh

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all i see is ulpianus

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nautilus also works

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however what concerns me

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is that there's no shield

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where is his shield

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the hp bar has no shield

unreal magnet
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I mean, the visual is there

versed solar
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wtf is she doing here

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Man phoebe animations are too cute

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She's a little witch

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Gotta saveeee

north venture
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just swipe gg

versed solar
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Duh

north venture
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i probably wont

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surely 25k gems will get me at least 1 phoebe

unreal magnet
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I'm around half that

versed solar
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lmao

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i dont even reach 1k atm

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cause i havent being playing much

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i gotta start doing events quests and explore

north venture
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i legitamately do not know where they came from

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since i havent played since launh

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gg

unreal magnet
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I guess you never pulled then

ionic quiver
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ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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@vapid prairie

open copper
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Sounds like a bug to me.

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Maybe it’s a Carthisomething placeholder that found it’s way to her.

vapid prairie
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@versed solar Is there any difference in pronunciation between Fleurdelys and Fleur-de-lis? Just trying to figure out if there's a connection

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Cartethyia's aliases are Fleurdelys and the Blessed Maiden.
Fleur-de-lis is a symbol which has some religious connotations but the notable one here is the Virgin Mary also known as the Blessed Mlther

versed solar
versed solar
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Enphasis on the spaces? Tbh French is not my forte xD

vapid prairie
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Ah right. It's a French symbol as well

north venture
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real

versed solar
scenic condor
vapid prairie
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Sekka team

vapid prairie
unreal magnet
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You mean charcoal?

vapid prairie
versed solar
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cute

marble sapphire
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the last level of the event was just outright brutal KEKHands

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they love to inflict DoT on you and it drains rapidly

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perhaps maybe easier in coop

scenic condor
scenic condor
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okay finally got 2 cv line on all of her shit

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but lowrolled most of them WheezeTao

ionic quiver
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i low rolled all of them as well

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i need to farm for rococo set FeelsBadMan

old summit
rough token
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What the fuck
Actually flyingKEKW

unreal magnet
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Well that was out of the blue

weak jay
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@zealous grove

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||friend appear on her trailer, impossible. Friend had been deadge afk for long time||

weak jay
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@zealous grove

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||there is coop event but you nvr help me fofoThumb ||

zealous grove
zealous grove
ionic quiver
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anyone can recap me 2nd half of WUWA events?

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i need to count

marble sapphire
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the income or the upcoming events

ionic quiver
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the income and the upcoming events detail

marble sapphire
ionic quiver
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the 1600 is on 22th right?

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aite i just need to win

weak jay
zealous grove
ionic quiver
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Sekka help KEKW

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i have 5.5k + 3 pulls

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by the end of rococo pulls

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how much

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welkin on no BP

marble sapphire
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i am at like 40 or 50 into a banner, and i got..60 rolls

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i think i'll make it at least in terms of getting at least 1 character

ionic quiver
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imma just get rococo and forgot the rest of the banner

marble sapphire
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its Jinhsi

zealous grove
# ionic quiver welkin on no BP

You'd probably get approximately 23 additional pulls starting today to approximate end of Roccia banner, disregarding events, from just Daily + Lunite.

ionic quiver
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so i will have like 80 pulls + events

zealous grove
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Oh yeah, I didn't factor tower as well, so probably. My calc was around 63 pulls.

ionic quiver
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Rococo saltprayge

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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no Cammy, so not much usecase for Roccia + Phoebe hooked me so waiting for 2.1 for me

ionic quiver
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at least give me encore / verina

vapid prairie
unreal magnet
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You guys also saving your selector?

vapid prairie
marble sapphire
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we dont get free rolls or anything from raising characters so...no point in completing my standard collection

vapid prairie
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I already have all the standard weps and characters

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Currently spending standard rolls on a second Rectifier

unreal magnet
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Anniversary...?

ionic quiver
vapid prairie
weak jay
marble sapphire
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his forte was strongly buffed

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1660% ish total scaling on forte, the second highest scaling of the game from a single skill, only behind full forte jinhsi blast

unreal magnet
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That's a big nuie

scenic condor
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it's a good buff but it's mostly a power shift

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and a pointless one at that

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but it is an overall damage increase

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but since you have to lib at the start of the rota anyway

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they just moved his frontload dmg into backload

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also his kit is still a bit....aimless

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like yes now i can see that hes just a subdps with some extra healing and shield tacked on which doesnt matter anyway

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but the ER scaling making it really hard to build decent cv on him

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is just a weird choice to me

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sk's ER scaling makes sense cause her buff scales from it too AND she gets guaranteed crit on her only good damaging ability so you dont even need to build crit on her

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brant's ER scaling does not make sense cause he is not a support and making him just get flat attack conversion from ER but needing a LOT of it is just....pointless, and is just gating him. since he has a very very low base atk he doesnt actually get THAT ahead. and without cv it's even worse

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they should scrap the ER thing, and just make him a regular subdps a la sanhua etc.

last nest
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I mean, he actually deals good damage unlike sanhua

scenic condor
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and before someone says but raiden works the same. yes. she does but it's easier to build good cv in genshin cause less overall subs to roll and the crit mainstats are also higher number

scenic condor
unreal magnet
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My only gripe with him currently is his very strict ER requirement of 250% which you cannot achieve without an ER weapon from i can see

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Even with ER echoes making his dmg% suffer

unreal magnet
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Building him just seems incredibly awkward

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Also general question, what do you guys think of a hypothetical character who converts overheal into damage?

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For a character who is a fusion of healer/dealer

open copper
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Probably not gonna happen for a long while.

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Kuro seems to prefer healing to be on the low side.
An Overheal DPS would be completely busted.

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It’s for the better. If you make Sustain too powerful, you either have to force the enemies to do spam One-shots, or be HP Sponges

unreal magnet
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How so?

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Using such a character on your team makes taking hits even more detrimental to your overall DPS output

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If it ticks at 1k/s heal and does 5k/s dmg if at full health
Taking a hit of 10k damage means a damage loss of 50k

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Punish for taking hits by dealing less damage per rota

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Seems pretty fair to me

open copper
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Well, it depends on how strongly they heal.

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If they can vomit healing like crazy, you can just keep on face tanking

unreal magnet
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Definitely not too much, since the detriment needs to be significant

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Just make the dmg they deal scale of what they would have healed*5 or smth

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Just don't make them scale off other healing sources and you'd be fine

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(looking at spectro rover and brant)

scenic condor
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heal numbers are kinda shit in wuwa so far

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so it's gotta be some strong ass healer

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for those numbers to pop

scenic condor
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if he had a teambuff that scales off ER in addition to the atk convert then i'd say okay. i see the vision

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but as it is this is just extra hoops to end up at worse damage than usual dpses

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his skills dont even have ER modifiers

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like.....i dont get why they do this

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as it is hes just changli with extra build difficulty

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and if we ignore this and just go for the outro then hes sanhua with extra steps

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and a slower rota

scenic condor
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if you wanna maximize the conversion

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honestly they could just do away with all of this ER bullshit, give him a normal base atk so we can put him on molten and atk atk and just be a male changli

open copper
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Just reducing that ER threshold would be enough, I think.

unreal magnet
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I don't think 280% is worth it

open copper
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SK scales of it, and still just wants 250%.

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That 280% number is insane

unreal magnet
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250 is the minimum and anything beyond is a bonus, no?

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I feel like if you go all the way to 280 you sacrifice too much dmg% and crit

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Because of diminishing returns

scenic condor
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you cant fkin build cv with 250 er

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that means you have an er wep

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so ur cv is fked

unreal magnet
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Yeah

scenic condor
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so i dont get this guy at all

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hes probably just male cursed

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pgr male curse reached wuwa

unreal magnet
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Not being able to equip EoG is a big downside

scenic condor
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i think

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we ignore the 250 er

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we ignore the er set

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and just go molten

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and normal dps

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his base atk is low but

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if ppl can make chixia dps work with 300 base atk

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he can work with 375

unreal magnet
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Wait, do we not know his ascension passives?

scenic condor
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we do

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20% healing boost from forte and fusion dmg 15%

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so one is garbage the other is whatever

unreal magnet
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Where I can't find it

scenic condor
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hakushin

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honestly in my eyes hes good for outro bot

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if his concerto can be procced in decent time

unreal magnet
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Ah thanks

scenic condor
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and then just slap heron set on him and thats it

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so slower sanhua with an outro thats useful for carlotta or something

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that healing boost is so fking cloooown

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they really trying to sell him as a healer with zero buffs in his kit WheezeTao

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like we need healing for anything but buff proccing

unreal magnet
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Bro those ascension passives are worse than Changli

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Change healing bonus to ER and maybe he'll be playable

scenic condor
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he will still suck ass

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look at roccia

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thats how an element specific subdps should look like

unreal magnet
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Hey at least he nukes

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Somewhat

scenic condor
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he really doesnt tho

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like sure the mv on that forte skill is decent

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great even

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but without cv what are u gonna do?

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it's like trying to play jinshi and failing the crit

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while having shit cdmg in addition

unreal magnet
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Time to crit fish

scenic condor
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but

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he wont even have the cdmg

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so even if he crits

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then what

unreal magnet
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You know what, screw ER

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We build him like any other character

scenic condor
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is what i said excatly. just build him heron subdps or try going changli molten build

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and then we ignore the "core" of his kit

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so hes half a character

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with no innate boosts

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yay

unreal magnet
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Question rn is if you can get his lib with low ER

scenic condor
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probably not

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so we are fucked either way

unreal magnet
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Man, i was looking forward to him

scenic condor
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they should change his sig if they wanna sell the solution

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add something like

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above 250% er he gets 0.5 crit per 1% er up to 280

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so he gets like 15% extra crit or something

unreal magnet
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His sig is so specialized it only works on him specifically

scenic condor
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and his sig isnt even good

unreal magnet
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Ye

scenic condor
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like....at this point i mightaswell skip

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and just go for changli

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😄

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idunno man

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i truly hope im just blind to something

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and hes secretly great

last nest
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Verina getting crept for Jinhsi teams

unreal magnet
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Depending on how long he takes to push all his dmg he may be fine but low crit is definitely going to hold him back a lot

unreal magnet
last nest
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According to leaks yes.

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Prob means that Phrolova is also coordinate attack enjoier like Jinhsi

unreal magnet
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Is she a replacement for zhezhi in jinhsi teams

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Because I don't see her replacing verina

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Her outro gives the same buff

last nest
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hmm, true, I didn't think about that

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maybe she is like brant more subdps than actuall healer

unreal magnet
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I wonder what kuro's plan is by including healing/shield into sub DPS characters

scenic condor
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cause she wont be carryign a healer set

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but some other set

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tho shes female

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so she might have a kit that works

unreal magnet
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Yeah ofc

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Hold up, conspiracy theory time

Did they make brant easy to play, to build and very forgiving because they believe that female players have a lower average skill level?

scenic condor
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anyway lemme calc a bit

unreal magnet
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Just stack ER

scenic condor
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maybe this is salvageable

scenic condor
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agai

unreal magnet
scenic condor
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let me think

unreal magnet
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4* ER sword, ER echoes

Like 3-400k per rota?

scenic condor
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kek

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no

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im counting with sig in mind

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with sig you only need 1 er sub

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to hit 250

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with 3 3 er

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so then we can go cv

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cdmg 4cost

unreal magnet
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Ofc it's nothing good by endgame standards

scenic condor
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he has crit traces

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plus sig has 8%

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if we count with an average crit sub of 8.4

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thats 42 crit from there

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+16 from sig and traces

unreal magnet
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Can't you 44111 if you have his sig?

scenic condor
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no???

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are you crazy

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no

last nest
scenic condor
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you will never hit 250 then

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xd

unreal magnet
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To offset the lack if CV

scenic condor
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double ER 3 cost is a must

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and the er set is a must also if you wanna make up for the lack of dmg% 3 cost

unreal magnet
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Oh you still need double?

scenic condor
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ofc

last nest
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Brant is going to be very annoying to built

scenic condor
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otherwise good luck fihsing for er subs

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AND cv subs

last nest
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Can't half ass him like Carlotta

scenic condor
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on all echos

unreal magnet
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My lord he's so picky

scenic condor
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okay so

unreal magnet
last nest
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And you practicly need his sig

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Which leeds me to belive he is going to be free

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Cause people would still have to pull for sig anyway

unreal magnet
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Ariel please continue

open copper
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So, what team wants Brant, anyway?

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He isn’t the perfect Changli partner.

unreal magnet
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I don't think we have details about his QS capabilities yet

unreal magnet
last nest
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Since he looks like the workaround rather than support

unreal magnet
last nest
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Well you have to build him as dps anyway so...

unreal magnet
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We don't have ANY ER buffing characters, right?

last nest
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Now it depends if his numbers are any better than Changli

unreal magnet
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That reminds me, we are still missing a limited fusion main DPS

open copper
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Scar when he escapes from jailForteCOPIUM

unreal magnet
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And both changli's and brant's outro buff skill, does that mean the fusion main DPS will also be skill based?

open copper
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Wait, that Tianhu guy that appeared for 1 minute in the Black Cat event quest was also a pirate.

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Kuro releasing 2 pirate males is weird.

unreal magnet
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I do not remember such a character

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Ariel is still mathing

open copper
scenic condor
# unreal magnet Ariel please continue

ok so. lets add up ER first:
base 100
sig 177
2 ER 3 cost 237
set bonus 247
+1 sub of literally any value to hit 250

crit:
base 5
4 cost 27
5 average substats (7.5 each) 64.5
Sig 72.5
traces 80.5

cdmg
base 150
5 average substats (15 each) 225

so we end up with 80.5/225 OR we can swap to 4cdmg cost instead so that means -22 crit +44 cdmg so we end up at 58.5/269.

add sk to this and we can go with the 4cdmg choice ending up at 71/269

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and this is average

unreal magnet
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That's quick scuffed ngl

scenic condor
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yep

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enjoy

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thanks kuro

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and honestly since hes kind of a nuker

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i'd go with the crit 4cost 😄

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actually with sk

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it's not so bad

unreal magnet
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Who's the 3rd mate?

scenic condor
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sk adds an extra 12.5 crit + 25 cdmg

scenic condor
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changli

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encore

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whoever benefits from fusion or skill outro

unreal magnet
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In that case Brant will only enjoy the cr

scenic condor
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then go with the crit

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and then we can go cdmg 4cost

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and end up at 71/269

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which is not so bad

unreal magnet
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In exchange he has a massive atk stat ig

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What is it, 2.8k?

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It's, eh

scenic condor
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not couting any atk% subs

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outside atk buffs

unreal magnet
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Close enough estimate

scenic condor
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this is decent

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but for the amount of work this needs

unreal magnet
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Yeah

scenic condor
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this is just pain on purpose

unreal magnet
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Raw statwise he's not that bad i guess

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Question is how fast his rotation is

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That'll probably decide his place in the meta

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If it's quite long all i can see him in is QS

scenic condor
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he is meant for qs

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hes a damn midair unit

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stuck in those combo animations

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on the grapple

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which is why i dont get why his only buff is his fkin outro

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that doesnt fit qs at all

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but ig changli is the same

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hes literally male changli

unreal magnet
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You could say those sub DPS outros actually make them worse in QS

scenic condor
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just harder to build

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i think they gonna force mono element teams eventually

unreal magnet
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Since QS usually can't make proper use of them