#Wuthering Waves
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are these purple stat roll things worth anything
or do i just convert them to golds
its because of Imperator's domain powers
say less
subdue dragon, church get social credits
just like in Jinzhou, Jue froze time in mt firm
Only gold echos matter
go to bank 24, fuse the purple
or unlock all TD
go to bank 20
fuse everything
it has been said that montelli family hold the key to control TD
the family who control TD control rinascita
carlotta said herself
montelli family started as 3rd rate fmaily and rose to the top of rinascita family because they hold the key to control TD
which is the unicorn / leviathan power
Man it really makes Jinzhou look even worse in comparison
its not worse
jue is powerless
the only thing jue can control is time
and space
but the problem with that is jue has been soloing those threnodian
and then frac come alone to beat the crap out of her
we blame the jinzhou honetsly
starter region always has it bad. thats why i was surprised they started out with the cn region
Only Rinascita has the Advanced Echo Technology. It’s stated to be a gift from “Imperator”, but the Church might be lying on that.
Since Jue has control over time, what the Rinascita Sentinel does?
also they really should have made fenrico a playable character or something
him being an npc was a dead tell
from the second you saw him
consciousness
which is the power to control TD
i dont think they want bad guys to be playable
you seem to be saying TD over echo
they arent necessarily the same
yes because they are TD
the different is big ariel
echo is the one we absorb in terminal
TD is wild
rinascita only altering their consciousness
bet phrolova is gonna be playable
scar will be too eventually
which is why i believe
and the fractsidus does look like the bad guys for now
leviathan is the good one here
so ur saying
totally not biased because leviathan is my favorite summon in final fantasy
leviathan is the good one
but the order worships leviathan
so
they are worshipping the good one
then they are not bad guys xd
so then fenrico is a good guy
xd
leviathon isnt the horse
i know
Well, the Order clearly worships the Water One.
totally not forgot what happen in FF15
and also what leviathan did to me in FF16, still i love the big fish 
also
I’m thinking the Order is trying to pull a Instrumentality. They always talk about “Union on Water” or something
why have I not seen any posts
what tick me off is
ok time to go thru my shit and merge all the useless shit
what they need with lorelei
about anyone not noticing that there is a fucking big castle in the sky that is hidden in a cloud?
yes
Water milf
theres also a weird sign in the sky
Someone in kuro has fish fetish
Water Instrumentality.
All consciousness melding into one.
Nonono, keep fountain plot far away
anyway
if phrolova can be playable
then so can cristoforo

ik he has fancy npc model but still
he looked so peak
Yeah. I prefer him with the mask.
he has npc model
lol
so i'd say thats not gonna happen
also hes male so chances are even lower
Build him up and than release later
turning npc into playable
in these kind of games
maybe im too hoyo coded
but thats not usually a thing
Happened in pgr before
yes but they looked playable before
happened in hi3 too tbh
model rework could be a thing ig
Tbh cristo looked better than half genshin cast
just not sure kuro will do that for a male
anyway it's been a long time since i craved a continuation for a story
and now i cant wait for 2.1 and act 4-5
japan city pls
so the hoyoshills can madge again
100% will happen
Other cities in rinascita
the fish is associated with all kinds of dishes and good fortune in CN wdym

I want my gladiator fights
Judging by Lamia they might want to do something more to the fish
But yes, Japan will always happen
fun trivia is that in HK, when you are eating fish, you aren't supposed to flip over the fish because that's evocative of a boat capsizing. You remove the bone in the middle and continue eating
Cause jpn sales are so important
they have not referenced any existence of a notJapan so far interestingly
only New Federation
did u know that japanese people are fed up with genshin?
though I wonder what does Cammy know since she said she has wandered all over SOL3
after the nemurero idk the name
the japanese streamer
got ban or w.e because he was streaming other game
Australia
yeah they hated genshin because of that
and even the streamer said he probably never touch that game again, he is a whale 
eh, he said he'd continue playing but not as seriously or do CC content for it
oh
Aero from leaks
Prob along with new echo set
Cause the new spectro set is clearly ment for rover and Phoebe
srover can heal
heal who
srover was always decent
he just wasnt ungabunga hmc
so
he was overlooked
but smc does a bit of everything
Phoebe, Srover quick swap team?
teamwide heal, timestop, spectro shred
i think smc was always better than hmc 
he just didnt really have a slot
Well HMC is deadge now
tho ig if you dont have a 3rd healer
you could use smc
with heal set
for jinshi or something

Danjin is better support with the new set
And obviously Roccia is pretty busted support
honestly u think prydwen is reliable ariel? after the misinformation in genshin era?
xingqiu t2 member 
prydwen did genshin? ooo
and prydwen does do some things well
the rotations are mostly correct now
tierlist is mostly okay
with some questionable choices
all i member is i enter a battle of stupidty against other genshin player
patch 1.x
i said that 4* are far more valuable than 5*
like benny xiangling fischl beidou and barbara
i got smack for being unlucky player who cant pull 5*

and then they show me w.e tierlist they can show and xingqiu were pretty low 
prydwen never did genshin afaik
jinshi being t0 is something i do not personally agree with
but i understand the reasoning behind it
deleted channel gg
it's just hilarious to me that jinshi team isnt even part of top 3 meta teams
yet shes still in damn t0
oh pre
like...personal top 3?

or actual facts
ye personal top 3
i never trust the sheet or anything, i just look at the comp
jiyan with mortefi?
jiyan morte baizhi
xy sanhua sk
jinshi yinlin verina
is what i have been using to clear tower since forever
i detest jinshi so now she can finally get the boot
cuz yay carlotta
so u are using yinlin iwth carlotta now?
and yinlin can go back to xy
oh
no
well this tower has electro antibias so i think xy might sit this one out
awaiting kuro to release broken 4* like sanhua again 
i still roll with XY
mortefi is just as broken tbh
it's just hes a bit slower than sanhua
and that can matter sometimes
but mortefi is my favorite IR character
by far

i should get into encore more
but i just...dont vibe with her
not even the loli model, shes ute af
but her gameplay is somehow...not for me
her gameplay is absurb 
cant point my finger at what it is exactly
the same with rococo tbh
introvert but her gameplay is just boink people head
10/10
must pull

not really
yeah
i dont like her look
at all
and shes slow af on 1st rota
which is annoying
Oh it's not about rococo?
Oh my bad then
really is the only SK weakness
her attack and everything has really slow forte gen
i did the rotations for car u mentioned yesterday
pretty good
the only problem
car just dont want to crit

focking 48k twice in final burst which could be 170k
just crit

funny thing ariel
lol
all my 1* cost
today i only got hp def
roll CV and double atk
AGANI


u got the shit one u discard
so i just cant be bothered
im going to jump off a cliff
u use the discard one as exp fodder to other
send 5 tunes
all at fkin once
poggers
bro.
just crit 4head
it's a decent placeholder yea
tacet fields
those are for echos
and echo xp
i have been farming those for the last 2 patches kinda
cuz i had nothing better to do
idk what im doing
lmfao
u missed the best events tent
they once gave shit tons of resources
people who didnt use it probably hsa like 300-400 legend tubes or something
ofc i use it again and again 
i just started perfecting echos for no reason
gg

glad i stop
issokay
i went from 280 yellow to like 68
i still have like 700+ gold xp
check wallpaper engine workshop
https://fixupx.com/yadonnu_meityo/status/1876252438614905317?t=TddqzVrKC-TWO30Ru0FS5g&s=19 boss HP trends for 1st and 2nd half middle tower
what does that mean?

i will dm you the link
conclusion is that HP for first floor boss has increased by 20% since 1.0
thanks frens 
oh the character is the patch
i see
yeah i feel that too
can u check whether they have def increase or it was impossible to check
would need to look at data
I do note that the first floor boss is solo
the 2nd floor has other enemies aside from the boss
https://fixupx.com/Cdr_mst/status/1876286309364629623?t=EhtqG6aRkGU5nvn9QArXNw&s=19 395 SENTRY CONSTRUCTS
67 CR, 83 CD, 54 Atk, 62 Def, 77 HP, 52 healing
@vapid prairie any interesting lore?
Heading back from work rn. I'm currently looking into the knight stuff
As for the Order, they're basically just Mormons
Some random guy decides to have the new translation of the Bible and says "trust me bro"
@ionic quiver Speaking of which, did you do the Don Quixote reference?
If you do "The Last Knight" quest, it unlocks a few "minibosses" around the map.
If you go the windmills in the area, you fight a Chop Chop miniboss and get a chest.

Im at 150ish sentries NOT including Crit rate ones
oh this
yeah i beat this one
i was furious because i need chest 
There's multiple
There's multiple
Not just the one in the quest
Speaking of Chop Chop, surprised no one has flexed by beating Lifer with all buffs active
i didnt know he has hp and res buff

if i know i would definitely shut the def and hp buff
I beat his ass in the chess game so he had all buffs active and got my ass kicked
[CLIPS][ENG SUBS]
Video version hah. #Brant's CN VA talking about how he got the role his best friend wanted and how his best friend got the role he wanted🤣
CV.莫然 MoRan (Brant CN VA)
CV.杨昕燃 Yang Xinran (Cristoforo CN VA)
#WutheringWaves #鳴潮 #Rinascita
Quoting Rachii荔枝 (@Rachii_Chan)
#Brant & #Cristoforo from #WuWa shares a CN VA with #Tigh...

https://fixupx.com/Jetxers/status/1876436849566290389 while nice for movement and exploration in general, it does amuse me how you can do this with Resonators you normally don't expect such as actual children or squishy wizard types
#WutheringWaves #gacha #WuWa
It has been a while since I first posted this and with the influx of new players joining in for 2.0
I thought y'all would like to know or be reminded how well this game's movement is.
hm, my prediction was a tiny bit off
bruh
im legit getting tired
of farming sentry
and keep getting bad rolls on the few times I get crit rate
I guess it's not the rates which are getting worse but our standards which are rising
I tried 100% desorock, only to find myself stuck at 92% since some of the chests are hidden and don't get marked by lootmapper :(
assuming if I manage to get Carlotta, is pulling Zhezhi a must?
No. You can play her with Taoqi quite well as well
Or quickswap with XY/Changli
Obv the numbers will be higher with Zhezhi but it's up to you if it's worth pulling her
I'm stuck between Carlotta or Zani
also Sanhua also obv works but she works with everyone
Zani is way latter. She is supposdly coming in 2.3
You can easily pull both
I see
what character after carlotta?
Roccia
Mamma mia
Jammo bello, jammo bello
abballammo sta tarantella
cu' na coppia e ancora n'ata
e facimmece sta ballata.
🤌 🤌 🤌
I cooka da pizza
🤌
except taoqi feels so bad to play

Pulling for Zhezhi would also feel pretty bad
Sanhua is on 2 other teams already
carlotta deals so much fking damage the outro buff is overkill
then use YY
idunno
or sure suffer with taoqi
idk, I think taoqi is quite a bit better than YY
not in terms of gameplay feel
in terms of numbers
also taoqi without r5 discord feels even worse
eh doesnt really matter
as i said carlotta does so much dmg anyway, the lack of taoqi outro buff does not matter much
as long as your carlotta is decently built
but well, I hope phoebe or one of the 2 unrevealed chars will be a good support for carlotta
The latest leaks is that she is support for Zhani who is the spectro main dps
but yes, not reliable
but them both being spectro one is bound to be support imho
we will find out soon enough i guess
and ur telling me
bigass shieldmaiden
screams dps to you

Bashing people face in with shield
nyah
i think shes gonna be 5* taoqi
without the clunk
oh right i should clear tower
i totally forgot about it
At least new sets help older units like Danjin to compete
So I can kick Sanhua out of Camellya team
til shorekeepers funky intro only happens in ult after youve used both other teammates intros
reading comprehension 0
update:
are you supposed to only be able to fly after acitvating the echo thingy that lifs you up?
It's really wierd that if you switch back to graple you can't go back to flying again unless you find another echo
rejoice
first jinshiless tower
im so happy now
bitch is finally gone

yinlin is back with xy
everything is in its place
i actually noticed the hp buffs now
i guess they thought of everybody getting the new 4costs
so they bumped up the hp a bit
i had nothing new besides carlotta tho
so
it was a bit harder than before
but still very much doable
i cant wait for yinlin to get rid of fkin heron tho
it's so awkward in her kit
Just wait until they introduce hp regenerating bossess
what does that have to with jinshi tho
shes a nuker
which makes hp regen boss even worse

cause she cant put up consistent pressure
and not critting would hurt even more
nah man im benching jinshi whenever i can
jiyan xy car cleared fine now
but i need those new 4costs baaad
and xy needs higher crit
now that he lost sk 
idk why you hate her so much. She is pretty brainless but so are a lot of chars
i hate nukers
cause it feels really bad when you dont crit on that one nuke
and it's just not my vibe
i prefer consistent dpses
You 100 crit rate?
obviously not
i dont like her so i didnt mald her enough
You can also use Shorekeeper for extra crit
yes verina is much better for sure
Time to build spectro rover
hes built
In cause phoebe is going to be frazzle support
he just needs the new set now
im hoping phoebe will be dps
i dont really need to cover every ele tbh
this isnt pgr
i dont have shit for havoc either
I like how everyones kit and element keep changing and than their is brant "he still heals"
good
i need him to be a healer
3male team needs to happen
honestly now that im looking at my jinshi build is pretty fking trash

Unless they start pushing single element tower it should be fine
Make a boss higly resistent to other elements
They already amped resistence by 5 percent this patch
huh?
but res increase was only for middle tower
not the side towers
and it was 10% to 2 eles not all other eles
that's wait I mean. But if they started uping rez they will go futher eventually
we'll see when we get there
Also you can always just pull a havoc dps later
Since we didn't get a midnight veil user other than danjin
They will surely release another one
this is my jin
sadly the crit is crap
but oh well
as i said i didnt mald enough on her echos
i hit the golden ratio with decently high atk and dipped
i will work on xy and jiyan harder
carlotta needs one more better 1cost and shes kinda done
she'll hit 75/300 with that and thats enough for me
no wonder why u dont crit
75% should be enough
im just unlucky
and it's exactly why i detest nukers
they want too much investment and if i dont care for the character pesonally then i dont feel like malding their gear
unironically with how jinshi is played u might aswell go for a 100 crit rate build
nukers like her need to be consistent
my crit damage is lower but hey, 98 percent is more consistnet
nukers like her can warm the bench
she was a necessity until i got another dps i like
and now that i got that i wont have to play her ever again
Also I regret not pulling Changli now
i should have 230 crit dmg but im missing a cd echo
real. thats why i main carlotta changli now
Do you need that much energy on her?
and im not gonna whel on wuwa
s3 carlotta and changli warms the soul.
i jus highroll
or just sacc
S3 carlotta is massive boost
duh
But I don't feel it's worth spending the dupe currency yet
i just want other characters 
s6 changli next
thank you for funding wuwa
depending on brant i might have to skip him
its not me funding
its my freinds giving me money so i can fund 
i thank all the tourneys i win in fighting games and money matches 
either way, even tho wuwa got so much better now am im feeling great about it
as long as im playing pgr
my funds go there
and my friends giving me money to clear there tower here n there
Luna soon
Time to buy triple bp and 3 monthly
well...i will 
voucher shop is crowded these days
so i could use the extra supply
my vouchers going to Sleepy
Wanshi who else
oh
rite
yes good choice
im totally not gonna roll sss on him
prio for you should be wanshi > empy > rest of the amps
garnet if shes not ss yet
since I am not bying bp it's going to be wanshi and than saving for lilith
oof
bplet life
yea thats tough
wanshi sss will take you a long ass time on f2p voucher income
but it should be absolutely prio
On the plus said I am not quitting like half of reddit supposdly is
I buy monthly
But yes. 2 per month vs 1 isn't big deal
mostly f2p then
xd
smol fish
i'll be fine
i just have to give up SSS
and settle for ss3
which is okay ig. i will definitely SSS selena tho
i would love to SSS ishy too but eh
wont be able to do that for sure
they give him for free right?
yes
he wants sss
especially cause your wata is low rank
he has to fill in for luna team too
That's a long term prospect
but ss3 is also very imporant for the extra shred and faster rota
it's fine
SS isnt as big for him
ss3 is
but ss is still good ofc
but if you have other shit to prio, do that
anway this isnt even pgr channel
i just realized

yes back to wuwa. I am around halfway done with the story and defo can feel why people who hated the 1.x story liked this a lot more
Rover feels much more lika an outsider rather than the world revolving around him
and char talk to each other a lot more
I do wish their would be a little more depth to the conflict rather than good monteli vs evil order and facily
it's lots of things
less technoblabla and the blabla is explained better
higher quality eng VA
more polished world
etc etc
and actually interesting characters
not cardboards that i felt about the 1.0 cast
I do like Rover’s dynamic with Carlotta. He works better with extroverts.
Feels like a Blockbuster Action Movie Romance
well i still feel like she trusted him way too fast
but
other than that the dynamic worked great
car invite rover tho
why would u not trust the person u invited
tho the only problem is carlotta is too thirsty
idk there are levels
like telling him her biggest family secrets too fast
after knowing him for a day
eh
i kinda dig it 
the rizz
somehow it works
and she got rizz too
so it works both ways
at least shes a normal-ish person this time
not an AI
or a horni yandere
tho i do get cam now
level
It’s like, I can see real couples with that Carly/Rover dynamic.
i always love SK
sk to me
i havent done camellyas story quest yet
“Exuberance Queen and the Boyfriend Who Cleans Up afterwards.”
feels like a hugpillow but ai woman
so my limited knowledge of her is just tree
think of it like this
u met a girl
Funny thing how everyone interepts SK as romantic but it could tottaly be familial love
girl dont like u
girl saw u everyday
girl fall in love
WUWA IS ROMANCE ANIME NOW 
it was overdone a bit. plus i was burned out by that point so that may be it too
gathering wives
checks out
gathering wives
I feel it's biases. Kafka thirsts for TB pretty hard too and I see a lot of people jump onto - she is just his mom.
wheres the equality
With Sk is honestly kind of wierd if it was romantic love cause, you know, rover made her
tbf kafka thirsts for anything that moves
I am not a big fan of that trope
and isnt that every incel's dream
you made your own woman
done
No, incels don't want to groom people as that would require effort
just make an ai
no need to groom it
program it
and it's done
no questions
you dont even have to get up from your chair
I know what you mean but it's funny that you are saying to incels - just learn to code bro

well they are usually stuck in front of a screen anyway
might aswell make that time count
anyway
im off to sleepo
office day today
gngn
gn
pogies
as a developer, recent years and developments in AI have made me lose some faith in the whole subject...
finally, trash area for exploration 🚮
Only good thing about that area is the bosses. Not even a good place to farm echoes or Whisperin
i notice some earlier enemies now drop the new mats as opposed to old mats meanwhile
like the floating rocks
yeah, i saw that golems, rock based enemies and stuff now drop the new crystall/rock materials
as opposed to whisperin cores
Just realized something. The echo web event is still up and it has the new echo selector
indeed
thats why i got it done early
its not really a true 100% given that some chests werent opened but whatever
The success of Wuthering Waves 2.0 has even caught the attention of TYPE-MOON's author, who has expressed their enjoyment of the story so far and is currently progressing through Chapter 1 of Act 6. This acknowledgment of the game’s growing popularity.
#WutheringWaves #wuwa #Rinascita
Quoting 三田誠@Makoto Sanda (@makoto_sanda)
PS5にやってきたし、家族が楽しん...
Basically, Jinhsi and Changli peak 
wonder if i am making a bad decision trying to go Spectro Rover and farming the echoes... 
as opposed to just sticking with my kind of done Havoc Rover
Bro spent 100 plates on the tacet field and decides to not use the Spectro set
it wasnt 100, and its the 4 cost thats the issue
and these nightmare bosses have :< drop rate
Do you use the echo pity?
i might not have, how does it work again
Not sure if it works on the nightmare echoes but beating an Overlord enemy that doesn't drop an Echo guarantees the next one
So what people did back in 1.0 is jump between bosses to guarantee echoes
i once jumped back and forth between two nightmares, killed them like 4-5 times, got only 1 drop :<
Yeah. I noticed something was off about the nightmare echoes because I was bullying the Inferno Rider next to the Sentry Construct for the echo pity
And it didn't always work
But bullying the dragon does
well i got a functional set...
crit rate a bit lower but thats fine since the set gives 20%
どっちが本物のバルファルクに近いか勝負だゼノコロッサス!!!龍閃も槍翼薙ぎ払いも出させねえぞ!こちとら襲撃じゃ!行け奇しき赫耀のツバキ!
#鳴潮 https://t.co/3b3rYVsr7C
Bro just spawncamping at this point

isnt that what we do when we farm 4 costs
I mean at least we usually wait for them to finish spawning
Bro just woke up and got nuked
@zealous grove
||you deadge in wuwa and in this chat as well
||
i did the nimbus chorale exploration quest for the song but i was greatly moved in process...
I was litterally afk when you pinged me. 
Lingyang VA/Natsuki Hanae got 2x Carlotta and 2x Sig in stream just now but I also remember he got spooked by his own character when he was rolling for SK...Also I cannot imagine starting to play Genshin after some period of playing WuWa
the lack of mobility/exploration QoL will be felt
||fate that friend won't be online to see my msg
||
Oooh shinies
Post-Lament Anthropocene: Stars Intertwined
"Praise the Sentinel. May They guide you to compassion and enlightenment."—Phoebe
Archive>>
Phoebe, an Acolyte of the Order of the Deep, always carries herself with warmth and grace.
Devout and steadfast in her adherence to the Order's doctrines, she embodies exceptional self-discipline. Yet beneath ...
||https://fixupx.com/ArsevensX/status/1876936108770005439?t=feSc-5ckkTqRkOOZj0IcuQ&s=19|| I knew about one hidden chest in the companion quest but there's more huh
Phoebe looks so saintly. Hard to believe she is DPS.
Hopefully she uses her Echo Friends.
Copy Furina to bait more tribalism 
that reminds me that Phoebe is indeed not that unquestioning considering that ||Order members arent supposed to be too close to Echoes...||
i did both when I did the quest
I noticed it immediately
ALSO ROCCIA NOT BEING NEXT IS HUGE
I CAN FINALLY SKIP A BANNER
what are u talking about
phoebe is drip market
roccia is still in 14 days lmao
people were saying pheobe was next
i think they meant
shes next patch
first banner
also idk if ill be able to s6 changli if shes next and i actually like her kit
i thought you've been in WuWa long enough to recognize this... 
i play too many gachas at the same time
gotta s6 changli shes too fun and her design is the best in the game for me
Wuwa is not worth the investment vs the others I play
dont spend then 
Bro's source:
Isn't that guy dead?
no?
bro source :
Snickers collab when Abby being hungry is the problem we're solving
stream up for JP VAs, its mainly a talk stream
Kana Ueda will play after though
oh now its a coop stream 
Abby VA and Carlotta VA alongside an MC
Rover by Abby VA, Carlotta by her VA, SK by an MC
whats notable is that it seems Shiori Izawa/Abby VA does not seem that experienced in gaming
oh lol so
they gonna put brant on phase 2
and rerun sk with him
and then wonder why he won't sell
poor guy wont even get to be the healer of his patch
Maybe we get him for free
Definitely not
watching lack stream, i heard comparisons of Black Shores with Chaldea
...in a way, that seems like an apt comparison
secretive organization dedicated to saving the world
what, because she's essentially an AI?
i got to poebe in story after return
i do not like shorekeeper
nor phoebe either
both rub me the wrong way
mamma mia 
real
real
Cam still works well with sanhua or danjin
I have to skip either her or Phoebe
Their are also some sus leaks we are getting another havoc support and dps in 2.2-2.4 so Cam might just get powercrept
But since I already invested in cam with sig I will try to at least win 50/50 on Roccia
turns out
for coord set
44111 is only 1% worse than 43311 assuming average subs
so ig getting the hecate selectors from her boss rn is pretty nice

What is Brant kit?
healer
I would've never guessed that from his drip marketing and his story role lol
What do you mean a healer??
so u say we just suffer on 1 cost echo?

well whichever u have better subs for really
but 1cost is easier to get
cause it's just 3 main stats
opposed to 3cost that has like 9
hes fusion healer. used to be shielder too but leaks changed and he seemingly doesnt have shield anymore. we'll see. beta should start soonish
Post-Lament Anthropocene: Stars Intertwined
"In the face of danger and adversity, the stage is set for our grandest act!"—Brant
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As captain of the Fool's Troupe, Brant exudes a carefree, easygoing charm, unbound by convention.
Beneath his flamboyant persona lies a genuine heart, deeply devoted to his family and companions. His life i...
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Hey people says he's a subdps like Yinlin, so which one is correct?
From the new sets, he probably is coordinated ATK
I had suspected he might be the user of Tidebreaking Courage if anything
Didn’t he use Fireworks on the Story? I think he uses the Empyrean Anthem.
Mortefi Sidegrade?
beta will start soon anyway, why bother asking questions with no answers





