Wuthering Waves

[scenic condor]

while dmg% buffs are abundant

and it looks better on the main sheet this way too xd

[frigid gyro]

im always min maxing the characters i enjoy lmao

plus s3 so

[scenic condor]

wow

nice stats

either mad luck

or mad spend on refills

[unreal magnet]

That's really impressive

[scenic condor]

the only problem with that carlotta

is that ur ER is too low

but it wont be a problem probably with those stats

you will 2 rota everything

so you'd only run out by the 3rd rota

[unreal magnet]

My built Characters look half built in comparison

[frigid gyro]

ik thats why i gotta roll that double crit with high ER

[scenic condor]

do you max refresh?

or are you just naturally lucky

[frigid gyro]

i still get her ult at a good time since im using quickswap anyways

and nah i dont max refresh

[scenic condor]

so just lucky then huh

[frigid gyro]

i just grinded around for a minute

pre farmed a bunch of tuners and tubes and just went around killing everything

[marble sapphire]

i posted a bunch of times, mine is like this, double glacio

[unreal magnet]

Wait, does Carlotta have naturally high base attack or why are you guys on 2k+ attack with double glacio

Mine is 13 still

[frigid gyro]

do you have her max leveld

lvl*

and are running max echos with atk 1 costs

[unreal magnet]

Mine is level 13

[frigid gyro]

bros carlotta is overall better then mine

[frigid gyro]

well thats why, ours are lvl 90

[unreal magnet]

I don't have her leveled because i still want to have fun in the overworld

I took a look at my raised characters, turns out 2k is pretty low

Must be a leftover from genshin

In my brain

[marble sapphire]

obviously, it has 1337 in it

bah i'll get the echo later

i got 2 on hand, they didnt roll well, so scrap

[frigid gyro]

wait are yours with or without sk buffs

[marble sapphire]

without

this is base stats

on screen

[frigid gyro]

oh yea

bros stacked

i just need the crit rate with 120 er sadge

[marble sapphire]

eh what does your stat screen look like without any buffs

[frigid gyro]

this

[open copper]

So, is the new Aero Set BiS for Jiyan?

[marble sapphire]

what new Aero set

[scenic condor]

we dont even know what it will look like

so dont bank on it

[marble sapphire]

you obviously want the new monki on Jiyan though

[frigid gyro]

theres a new aero set?

[scenic condor]

no there isnt

it's a leak

comes in the future

cause katixiya will be aero

so it makes sense that she gets a new set

but it can go thru reworks

just like she shield set

[open copper]

Thought it was already in-game.

[scenic condor]

no it's not

since jiyan cannot inflict erosion

unless he gets it added to his kit when the set comes

i dont think this set is any good for him

[frigid gyro]

yea thats not in the game yet

[scenic condor]

also i dont think any sets are really worth re-farming

the main echos sure for convenience maybe

and cause it's 1 piece

but a whole new set

sure new coord set is better for yinlin by a lot

but tower is a joke

a literal fucking joke

why would i re-farm her to clear the same joke

when i can do it already with eyes closed

if they buff tower then sure maybe

[open copper]

Well, my Jiyan was already mostly unfinished. So might well do the old one.

[scenic condor]

yeah focus on getting the new 4cost echos

they really are a lot more convenient

and they change rotations

[open copper]

How do you get them?

[scenic condor]

so

each map

has a new nightmare echo tied to them

zone i mean

there are pre-requisites to do

within the zone

so just follow the map guide

[unreal magnet]

4 piece not 5 piece?

[scenic condor]

it is a 5pc

obviously

[unreal magnet]

Sad

[scenic condor]

leaker is probably from hoyo games

xd

idk

it never made sense to me why it's not 4pc either

5pc is so bullshit

with echo farming costing more stamina than in genshin

but giving the same

they should be 40 cost

[unreal magnet]

I'd love somewhat more generic sonatas ngl

[scenic condor]

i mean

atk set works on p much everybody

😄

but yall are truly overthinking this

i'd wager tower can be cleared out with random pieces with decent subs

without any set bonus

it is just too paper

[unreal magnet]

It can

But it's not pleasant

[scenic condor]

i ran void thunder on xy

since forever

despite it being harder to use than atk set

lucky me cause now void thunder is his bis again with the new 4cost echos giving a much better boost overall

even if you do not do the extra heavy to stack up the sonata

[unreal magnet]

Hasn't that been his bis since the beginning

[scenic condor]

no

[unreal magnet]

For anything but hypercarry and solo

[scenic condor]

his heavy can only be performed outside his ult form

and his heavy has a particularly slow windup

[unreal magnet]

I know, he's my 2nd team in tower

[scenic condor]

so it wasted more time

than it gained

in terms of extra stack

[unreal magnet]

You can cancel it and still get the buff

[scenic condor]

yeah i know

[unreal magnet]

It adds 0.2 seconds, worth it

[scenic condor]

unless you played him in qs, atk set was marginally better

but now thats moot

cause nightmare mephis is too good

[unreal magnet]

XLY's dmg output does not justify being in hypercarry

Or at least for me

[scenic condor]

it definitely does

i didnt even run him with yinlin

and he clears so quickly

[unreal magnet]

Since he does worse with jianxin than rover for me

[scenic condor]

jx is ass

lol

and idk what u built on him

but he just demolishes tower

so quickly

[unreal magnet]

Still the best to buff his dmg

[scenic condor]

which he doesnt really need

i ran him with sanhua

completely useless outro

just for heron

and the s6 atk buff

and he did just fine

hes very strong

both in aoe and in ST

which is a great strenght

hes also very qs friendly if you match him with a useless outro

if you did not feel like he did good dmg then either your build sucks or you expected jinshi level of nuke numbers

which tbh he actually can deliver with yinlin. his first ult hit hits HARD

even after the nerfs

i hit around 300k-ish with the ult hit

with yinlin

tho hes never with yinlin in tower really

yinlin is with jinshi. but oh as soon as phoebe drops jinshi will be bencher forever

i really wish outro buffs would last thru quickswap

would make combat way more fun

and it wouldnt reduce the simplicity either for ppl who arent willing to/cant perform qs setups well

[marble sapphire]

@frigid gyro where did you get that Atk/Glaceo was better anyway

[old summit]

prydwen math calcs

only if you have sig

if you dont have sig, glac glac is better

[marble sapphire]

the difference seems to be minimal

[frigid gyro]

Normally what happens is when someone has a bunch of dmg bonuses atk ends up being better

Jinshi for example

The difference is minimal but I still want the best numbers

[marble sapphire]

I don't feel convinced...

[ionic quiver]

its correct

think of it this way

both has insane gap on flat atk

personally

[old summit]

bro

[ionic quiver]

if i had low flat atk on weapon, personally i will put atk + ele

[old summit]

are you shitting me

[ionic quiver]

but thats fair if u want to double ele

[old summit]

oh wait

did the compare wrong

well which one do I use as xp fodder

the old one or new one?

I guess the new one

[marble sapphire]

if I get a godly Atk echo maybe

and we all know just how much suffering is getting a godly echo

[ionic quiver]

the only fucking reason i kept this

2 atk line + res skill + er

also i think im running this with SK

@vapid prairie map check?

[weak jay]

time to make reference to mine

[old summit]

man, I wish there was an instant respawn button for all 4 costs

not just world bosses

[old summit]

bro

Are 4 cost crit rate subrolls always 6.9

or am I just that unlucky

[unreal magnet]

Unlucky

But don't worry, i also have that curse

[old summit]

btw

how do you unlock the new 4 cost echoes of the old kinds

[frigid gyro]

changli/carlotta & changli/chixia

[frigid gyro]

do the tutorial quest with the white cat and youll unlock there locations

[old summit]

ah

[rough token]

So that quest with Lorelei is just Solon's wet dream
He got to play with a mermaid

[marble sapphire]

mermaids are wet, more at eleven

[ionic quiver]

but this mermaid

completely dry

[ionic quiver]

best patch

[marble sapphire]

they use the same music for the echo band but why does it sound so nice to listen to...

[ionic quiver]

its very nice yea

[old summit]

still farming sentry

it keeps fucking giving me crit dmg

80% of the time

[weak jay]

nani

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-5991920615405934389

[vapid prairie]

Helped my returning friend go from databank level 10 to 15. Reminded me of painful times of no guaranteed gold

[marble sapphire]

its something every new player goes through alas. Thankfully at least it's a one and done kind of deal

also I tossed all my base Glaceo and Atk set echoes to the data bank since I am convinced nobody I have or want to play uses them 🙃

[marble sapphire]

hm, its subtle but I am starting to notice how slower I am overworld while traversing outside Rinascita thanks to how Carlotta is on the short side

Not helped by how before that Changli is both tall and uses Inferno Rider

[scenic condor]

atk is better cause she has so much dmg% especialyl with sig. either way the diff is 2% without sig too so it's negligible, just go with better subs

[marble sapphire]

i am not having much luck with getting more ATK% 3 costs nor with substat rolls so far mhm. And perhaps I am also a bit incredulous over how many Glaceo% am I getting on that set

[vapid prairie]

I had to save his account. He was halfway through Union Level 29 doing less than 300 damage on Carlotta skill and ult

Bro was not ready for the world level difficulty spike

[marble sapphire]

the fun type of being obliged to help, when you feel negative thoughts from seeing somebody's troubles :(

[last nest]

that's why you use SK butterfly form for no-flight travel instead

Or mald with Verina

[marble sapphire]

since I have Lumi I can use her for overworld even at low level...

yeah no point in Rinascita but when you are knocking down your backlog...

[last nest]

Shorekeeper is best cause butterfly can climb over rocks

[vapid prairie]

Also helped him get Lootmapper since he's the type of guy to rely on Topaz for exploration in HSR

[marble sapphire]

that one I can empathize with

[vapid prairie]

Lootmapper buff was the second best thing to happen to exploration

||https://fixupx.com/LegionzGaming/status/1875849873360375972||

A random bot warned us a long time ago

[marble sapphire]

hmm ||wait, if thats what the Black Shores NPC is saying and they would generally be more believable due to being essentially Rover's faction....does that mean the whole Sentinel/Threnodian thing is actually the other way around with the Order of the Deep worshipping one?||

[vapid prairie]

||Yes, according to an exploration quest where you speak to the ghosts of the past. The Sentinel led them to Ragunna and the humans made the most out of the promised land. However, a group formed thinking that the land was blessed by the Sentinel rather than hard work. This group of worshippers would eventually become the Order.||

[scenic condor]

people crying that it takes too long to meet zani

and why so many males

cause they met brant and cristoforo first

and then phoebe was too flat

WHERE ARE DA REAL WOMEN

insane

fkin

incels

[marble sapphire]

i think you need to stop hanging out in whatever place is that

[vapid prairie]

Had to meet Aalto. 0/10

[scenic condor]

okay but sk was there

so thats balanced

xd

[vapid prairie]

[scenic condor]

anyway im always astonished by how fkin simple basic men are

it's just....no words

i also wandered into asmongold stream. ppl couldnt handle that he was not skipping dialogue

JUST WANNA SEE WOMEN. WHERES THE BOOBA

and yes im doing cringe tourism

[marble sapphire]

...oh, that explains it

the stream

if we are going that way, i am instead thinking those people arent cultured enough. Phoebe seems to be starting to gain fans, perhaps one reason is because she seems to be the type thats fun to tease

[scenic condor]

they arent cultured at all

they are simple incels

big booba thats all

[vapid prairie]

@marble sapphire Anyway, ||It seems the Threnodian is someone that relies on deception. I already speculated earlier that the elf girl is meant to mislead us.

If it's based on the four horsemen then it's the Threnodian of Conquest. If it's seven deadly sins, it's the Threnodian of Sloth.

If I had to guess||

[marble sapphire]

||could be Lust or something considering the whole revelry thing is suspected to be the influence of the Threnodian according to the Order||

[vapid prairie]

||Revelry is more Gluttony. I only say Sloth because of the Order disregarding the merit of the hard work of the settlers. Ragunna seems to be over reliant on the Sentinel compared to Jinzhou||

[marble sapphire]

hmm, ok

[vapid prairie]

Anyway, I dunno what collective will the Threnodian of Ragunna is gonna represent

Especially when the central theme is deception

Unlike what Penacony was supposed to be but we dropped the whole "everyone is lying to you" thing real quick

[marble sapphire]

i am guessing the only ones we can trust are the 5

[vapid prairie]

There is one detail about the 5 I find interesting. ||Phoebe is the only one that doesn't wear a mask whether in-game or the countdown arts leading to the update||

[marble sapphire]

...

[vapid prairie]

Was also the first of these arts but idk what that implies

[last nest]

okay where are you getting this takes. Even 4chan is loving 2.0

[marble sapphire]

i mean, Asmongold stream as clarified later

[ionic quiver]

@vapid prairie i also thought the same

also

||dragon of dirge crown is 99% resemble the elf girl crown||

i dont trust phoebe

[vapid prairie]

||She's already wearing the laurel too btw||

[scenic condor]

asmongold's incel stream

xddd

[last nest]

ahh right, the only place more deranged than 4chan. The twitch stream

[open copper]

||If the Threnodian is Leviathan, it would probably be the Threnodian of Envy/Jealousy.||

[marble sapphire]

tomorrow...is a new week, that means...I can actually farm nightmare echoes...

yeah I can farm them now but the drop rate is so ass

[open copper]

Also, ||note how the Mural says that there was a Water Deity and Air Deity, but the Order is all about Water in it’s iconography.||

||I think they are indeed worshiping Leviathan||

[marble sapphire]

||if we are fighting Leviathan I wonder if we'll have a peak fiction boss arena stage...||

[rough token]

Ok shit
Forget Jinhsi sign
I should start saving again after getting Last Dance
Ain't gonna risk not getting what i want just for a little bigger numbers

[last nest]

Jinhsi is kind of scuffed without her sig

Since she is a crit fisher you want citrate close to 100 percent

[rough token]

Yeah see unless the weapon is hot
I ain't gonna tryhard to pull it
More chara=better

[last nest]

Sure you will just have to mold harder on crit rolls

[scenic condor]

man they really shoulda have given us more guaranteed echo boss drops per week

15 is too little with all these new 4costs to farm

and the new data bank levels give nothing

also hecate can go into any set?

wtf

or is that only from the box selector

why hecate tho

thats so....random

xd

[open copper]

Feels like you can use her as a Cope substitute for a time.

[versed solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPgXrYMqGv0&ab_channel=KydroTV

[last nest]

I really don't get the skin discourse. if you think it's to expensive don't buy it.

It's only cosmetics after all

Personally I think Jinhsi skin is very high quality compared to genshin skins so the higher price is justified

[versed solar]

genshin skins sucks balls

same quality as the free ones

lmao

except diluc but hes not much better

[scenic condor]

diluc vfx change is BARELY better

theres a reason why they never released another skin of his tier again

[versed solar]

i dont like gacha tribalism and hoyoshills expecially cause of their idiocy

they are letting hoyo fuck them

at 90 degrees

[last nest]

Well most hoyo "shils" only ever played genshin and maybe HSR

It's kind of like a team sport to them. My team vs your team and all

It's why they constantly bring up how much genshin makes money.

[versed solar]

doesnt excuse their stupidity

[unreal magnet]

I introduce you guys to

[versed solar]

i need

[unreal magnet]

From the German channel of the wuthering discord

I do not take credit for the creation

[frigid gyro]

does anybodys wuwa crash when they record with nvidia

[scenic condor]

eeeh

could be better

but i'll take it for now

but that cdmg is kinda lowroll

now this is a bit more like it

but once again a useless line

this is where we are today

my 1costs are still shit

but gonna get around farming them a bit in the overworld

[ionic quiver]

i feel like with the main echo giving res skill

we can skip 1 or 2 echo with res skill

and just go with max line on atk flat or CDMG

[scenic condor]

skill dmg% lines on echos were never too good anyway

aim for double cv

some atk

er if needed

rest is whatever

and minmaxing is also very very futile

theres just no content for it

get talent levels up

aim for a 70/250

and ur all set

truly

[ionic quiver]

im trying to aim atk flat atm

with CDMG

[scenic condor]

just get 2 cv lines

thats all

[ionic quiver]

one of my 3 cost is too fucked up

[scenic condor]

i dont understand what else is there to sweat about xd

[ionic quiver]

CV is granted tho

tuning at the moment for carlotta is only CV + atk flat for me

so i only take echo that has CV or CV + atk flat

[scenic condor]

no what i mean is, if you got both cv lines on it already you dont need to keep on grinding

[ionic quiver]

but game give me reso skill for 5 piece, dogshit

but i cant flex

[scenic condor]

i literally cant find atk 1 cost today

i went thru the map

and except 2 mimics

[ionic quiver]

have u tried

[scenic condor]

all of them were hp def

[ionic quiver]

the elite echo that has 100% drop rate?

but most of them are 3 cost

[scenic condor]

it's elite

[ionic quiver]

u need luck

theres a 1 cost version

[scenic condor]

where

ooo

[ionic quiver]

but u have to gacha the set effect

[scenic condor]

eh

i dont mind

i can already clear towre probably

[ionic quiver]

can check youtube

[scenic condor]

with what i have now

[ionic quiver]

i dont remember because i only know it from exploration

its needed for 100% map

[old summit]

i just realized

sk doesnt have a reso mark

[scenic condor]

carlotta is so damn op for holobosses

im so surprised they arent immune to freeze

[scenic condor]

well. shes an AI

she doesnt really need one

[marble sapphire]

puns i have seen is a Phoebe furby

[scenic condor]

they really need to make holoboss locations teleportable too

[ionic quiver]

Agreed

tacet field now teleportable is 100% chef kiss

idk about that i put a teleport waypoint at first

[scenic condor]

xddd

jesus christ

carlotta

i cant wait for her to be lv10 talents

this bitch is so broken vs holobosses

the constant freeze

honestly shes near perfection

the only thing i dont like is how slow she shoots her knells

making that 5s window really tight

[ionic quiver]

can u only shoot 1 death kneel

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1876066424634089482 Free Variation sidegrade!

[ionic quiver]

and use her ult?

pls dev

note that

[scenic condor]

no you cannot

even tho hyperreal can

so

not a 1:1 copy afterall

well tbh

no

cause you wont have enough energy to shoot ult2 with lee if you didnt fill it up

so ig it checks out

[ionic quiver]

the quest is great, do it, it honestly peak if u read carefully all the quest

how much did u hit ariel on car burst?>

[scenic condor]

how is this a variation sidegrade

[ionic quiver]

the first bullet, 4 death kneel and last burst

[scenic condor]

the passive is literally useless

[ionic quiver]

my highest damage on first burs thit is 115k, death kneel crit is 58k x4 , final hit for 180k

[scenic condor]

the point of variation is the faster concerto

[ionic quiver]

idk if that high

[scenic condor]

and this is just healing bonus

[scenic condor]

is this totally unbuffed?

[ionic quiver]

only SK + sanhua

i know i did something wrong

i think one of my buff is not active or something

thats why i been asking around for the burst numbers

but still it hit hard tho

total 500k

[scenic condor]

well for comparison. my sanhua sk buffed xy does around 330k first hit ult

[ionic quiver]

okay i did something wrong

[scenic condor]

yeah

[ionic quiver]

so 3 of my buff arent working

[scenic condor]

u didnt use her forte before maxybe

[ionic quiver]

i use her forte first

the red one

then i burst

active the def piercing

can u video the rotation?

i started as usual with SK first

and then sanhua fast rotation to car

the problem is on car

E E only fill 90 substance

with intro ofc

[scenic condor]

did you start on car?

[ionic quiver]

so i waste time and buff timing on the rest 30

[scenic condor]

if not

that was the problem

[ionic quiver]

no i started on SK

[scenic condor]

the rota starts on car skill skill

[ionic quiver]

okay so i have to start with car

[scenic condor]

then do your support rotations

[ionic quiver]

EE

and then SK?

[scenic condor]

then back to car

[ionic quiver]

aite i will try this

so car to SK to sanhua to car again?

[scenic condor]

intro skill skill ult, 4 shots, ult2 e e echo

yeah that works

[ionic quiver]

car -> supp rotate -> car EE into forte HA and then ulti 4 shots ult EE and then SK intro

aite i will try that

[scenic condor]

just plunge after ee so you can speed it up a bit

[ionic quiver]

i plunge yeah

[scenic condor]

and dont forget echo at the end

[ionic quiver]

oh ye

now the problem is sitll on SK

that shit took too long to concerto

[scenic condor]

but if you start on 0 forte

[ionic quiver]

[scenic condor]

thats when u do this

and u need the red crystal

too

[ionic quiver]

when i do the bad rotation

i counted whole timing

car did has her red crystal again after that

[scenic condor]

good

thats all then

[ionic quiver]

i wasted too much time

but with tis rotation

i have to try

time to abus emiddle tower memphis again today

WAIT

TODAY RESET?

[scenic condor]

yea

tower resets

today

so hurry up

thats why i do it day 1 otherwise i fkin forget about it xdd

[marble sapphire]

j shouldn't have tower troubles considering it's Spectro Glaceo favoured...

[scenic condor]

tower is always simple

regardless of element

until they buff it

[ionic quiver]

honeslty i need 3rd healer

[scenic condor]

no verina?

oooo

[ionic quiver]

Sk verina + 1

[scenic condor]

baizhi exists

[ionic quiver]

baizhi maybe

[scenic condor]

hello

wdym u dont have a 3rd healer

[ionic quiver]

5* healer

[scenic condor]

so?

baizhi is just fine

i have been using her since forever

and shes completely fine

just gotta stuff her full of ER so she has ult up every rota

and then shes smooth

and keep in mind that her buff is single target not teamwide so u gotta swap into the dps after her outro

but it lasts thru swaps

she has been the healer for my jiyan team

i could actually put her on carlotta cuz she buffs glacio dmg

[ionic quiver]

how fast is her concerto?

[scenic condor]

intro, ult, 4 autos, skill, 2 autos. thats it

it's very manageable

as long as you dont get hit xd

this assumes variation ofc

if you dont have it you need to add an extra auto

or was it two extra

i forgot

i dont remember how she was pre-variation

[marble sapphire]

a..amazing

updated stats

[ionic quiver]

oh jesos

u hit 10.5% CR

40/50 atk as well

the unfortunate shit is liberation here

could be atk% but w.e, cracked echo

[marble sapphire]

hm? she wants liberation though...

[ionic quiver]

she want res skill no?

all of her atk are res skill based

[marble sapphire]

...hmmmmm

i wonder how does that work

i wont sweat over it but i am curious

[ionic quiver]

there

her ult convert into Res skill

while her HA increase her liberation multiplier

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CarlottaMains/comments/1hsrsvs/do_resonance_liberation_dmg_boosts_do_anything_on/ welp useless but again i wont sweat over it

[ionic quiver]

yeah its fine

u got 4 line correct

and ur crit rate is maxed

10,5%

that sactually cracked

10,5% CR itself is value there

[marble sapphire]

nearly 2.5k atk too

[ionic quiver]

CV + flat atk + Er, its great

if only that lberation become atk%

one of the hell echo for car

perfect i would say

but that impossible since u are using atk% piece

[marble sapphire]

huh?

[vapid prairie]

Genshinbrained

[marble sapphire]

you can roll ATK% i thought

[vapid prairie]

Stop farming for Mavuika brother

[marble sapphire]

back to killing bosses

need to exhaust them before i go kill Hecate

[ionic quiver]

oh we can?

brainrot genshin

im still farming for feather

[marble sapphire]

if we couldnt why are we all chasing double Crit even on a Crit main 4 cost echo?

[ionic quiver]

im braindead yesterday

i refill 3 times in genshin

only got decent 3rd piece

i have to wait next patch to use the dogshit

[marble sapphire]

man this nightmare farm is not going well

[ionic quiver]

the weekly 15 also include nightmare?

[vapid prairie]

I made flower and feather from elixir on separate updates and didn't fall for the goblet bait

[ionic quiver]

oh goblet is easy

just use off piece

[marble sapphire]

yes and i am using them all up before i go do weekly

[open copper]

Wish they lower the boss respawn time again.

So tedious waiting for it

[marble sapphire]

i rotate between inferno rider and temphest mephis

[ionic quiver]

the tacet is nice to farm now

[vapid prairie]

Watching CCs and experienced players make goblet

[ionic quiver]

i never understand the goblet tbh

the most RNG piece

with dogshit main stats

just offpiece that shit

at least wasting it on 5th piece is still okay

but thats already dumb af

but i understand people luck

[marble sapphire]

no luck on getting a CDMG Tempest Mephis but at least i got a replacement echo for XLY and Changli

[radiant fox]

Man, wuwa 2.0 blew my mind, so many unique NPC, the dialogue isn't a bore, and Zani's accent! It's like playing arknights but interactive

[marble sapphire]

and essentially burned my money

[marble sapphire]

homework for me is to optimize echoes on older characters when i can

[ionic quiver]

this is the hard part

[marble sapphire]

not much sweat

a bit of it but not sweaty

8 out of 18 now 🙃

[radiant fox]

Noo got pity broken by Chalcaro

[old summit]

lib up is a dead stat on her

her attacks dont do lib damage at all

[vapid prairie]

0.1% under 50% is annoying

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1876123918001692972

[last nest]

@scenic condor Thoughts on Carlotta and Changli/XY quickswap team?

[scenic condor]

sure. why not

changli xy team is better than car and one of them tho

but it should work

tower is still a joke so anything goes probably

[marble sapphire]

the results from the showcases dont lie, but your preferred controller peripheral and/or your fingers might hate you for it :<

[scenic condor]

again. almost anything works

as long as you have decent gear

[marble sapphire]

anyway caught up with pre 2.0 companion stories, was procrastinating because I feared the time I'd spend on it but at least I can sense it's a bit better as I went through more recent ones

[old summit]

idk

My XY team is pretty geared and skill leveled

and I couldnt kill tempest in time

for the 3 star

[marble sapphire]

doesn't that have Electro res

[old summit]

no fucking wonder

lmao

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Momokan_wuwa/status/1875855546865385796 Standing here I realize....

[old summit]

what about the inferno rider fight?

my cam team beat it but like barely

literally 2 seconds to spare

for the 3*

[marble sapphire]

...uh wait, I guess you are talking about the holo fights

[old summit]

No

Tower

[marble sapphire]

oh the old one

[old summit]

Your reset and my reset are different times

[marble sapphire]

i generally don't think it's a good idea to try using elements matching the boss

[old summit]

Your like almost a day ahead

[marble sapphire]

found that out the hard way when I tried Spectro vs the hammer bro

[old summit]

My reset literally just happened

[marble sapphire]

hmm, for companion quests ||man, classic, the way out of the maze in Carlotta companion quest is...backwards||

[marble sapphire]

there we go, caught up!

[marble sapphire]

something I kind of notice I guess in comparison to Jinzhou and the fandom. ||Considering the Order higher ups, some Fisalia family members and heck even Carlotta's uncle are a bit suspicious and wary of Rover...|| I wonder if that's them indeed listening to criticism of Rover's reputation in Jinzhou

https://fixupx.com/lalalalack/status/1876186286308110392 the caption beside Yuanwu there is just "Who?"

[rough token]

Oh
Lack is playing wuwa now?

[marble sapphire]

yes

there's a good number of new joiners thanks to 2.0

seems Kana Ueda might be starting to play it on stream soon too on 9 of Jan

[last nest]

No, Rover was a jesus like figure in Jinzhou while he has no such religous connotation in Rinascita

Also this cristism was never particularly serious cause every gacha under the sun glazes it protagonist and it usually came from Genshin players when Genshin does the exact same thing(Traveler is a godlike being from another world who is extremly liked and glazed by everone he meets)

[vapid prairie]

I honestly can't blame Jinzhou. Jinzhou is so isolated from the rest of the world that it had to rely on itself and was struggling to do so until Rover and Jué turned it into a civilization.

Rinascita's Sentinel and the Order are pretty much claiming that they did the same thing because they rewrote past records which may have removed any mention of Rover.

[open copper]

So, are we getting a Fisalia playable?

They seem interesting to me.

[old summit]

dunno yet

[unreal magnet]

Ah yes, fish

[last nest]

Did a quick exploration tour through the map. Rinascita is absolutley increadible visually

They really took a lot of inspiration from Elden ring and it looks so good

Honeslty shoking how much worse Jinzhou is in comparison.

[scenic condor]

no cuz males

[last nest]

Wdym, Fisalia also have women as well they can make playable

[scenic condor]

ah yea

ig

but then i suddenly care less

[last nest]

I think the elf violinist might be a member?

Their are 2 unrevealead chars that are releasing in 2.2 and 2.3. One of them prob going to be a member

[vapid prairie]

We got a Lollo Logistics character so literally anything can happen

[scenic condor]

as long as its female ofc

we already have brant

as token male for the region

[scenic condor]

oh apparently tower got hp buffed now

for the new cycle

[last nest]

You said it was too easy.

[scenic condor]

kek

well

im not complaining

what i like less

is the res increase

thats a bit limiting for some ppl

but i'll be fine

[last nest]

Scar would have fucked me but thankfully I have carlotta now

speaking of new echoes. Kind of sad than Camellya doesn't use Hecate.

Now I need to farm Crownless nightmare

But I suppose it's going to be bis for Phrolova when she is released

[scenic condor]

carlotta is a cheat code against bosses

truly

i also realized that phrolova's eng va is sonetto from r99

[last nest]

God they made the new region so pretty

Really impressed both with city and landscape

[scenic condor]

me too

i cant even believe it's the same game

as the 1.x zones

tho black shores had its moments

but this is another level

[last nest]

Can't belive they made this only in 6 month

[vapid prairie]

And we thought Mt. Firmament was a big jump

[last nest]

It was compared to the base game. But this is another level. And the music got so good suddenly

[marble sapphire]

huh, you can reenter ||the mirror world after Carlotta's companion quest if you miss any chests||

[vapid prairie]

Meanwhile Genshin with completely missable chests

[open copper]

Music has been getting very good since Mt Firmament

Only 1.0 had a stinky OST. (I think they flat-out replaced the OST of some Jinzhou areas.)

[ionic quiver]

they buff tower hp mostly

and res

it actually matter now

5% or 10% it will decrease out output by alot

[scenic condor]

okay so

[marble sapphire]

i saw a post talking about how one Rinascita field song is not out of place if placed with Frieren OST

[scenic condor]

||katixiya's name is cartethyia....damn kuro. now we can to ppl who can be shortened to "car". however will i differentiate.she could use some more clothes...or clothes at all...poor girl is almost naked. also no fair that she can have a full hair but phoebe got the v shape treament. it's a welcome addition on her ofc but poor phoebe||

wait do we need to spoilertag still?

48hrs are way up now

[north venture]

trying to get a correct mainstat 3 cost is making me want to commit die

[ionic quiver]

because ariel

katixiya and phoebe might be connected

just because of

[scenic condor]

no i mean

[ionic quiver]

someting

[last nest]

have you down your batch mergers?

[scenic condor]

this proves that they CAN do full hair

without the stupid v split

[north venture]

my whats

[scenic condor]

so why not do it for phoebe too

[ionic quiver]

they might be the same person even

[marble sapphire]

huh, i dont have trouble getting all rewards on pincer this time, unsure because they made it easier after 1.4 or i have the favored characters

[last nest]

Merging all your old usless echos into new ones

[scenic condor]

thats not possible. both are separately playable

[ionic quiver]

we never know

[scenic condor]

they wouldnt

[ionic quiver]

all the clues indicated that theres 3 things

[last nest]

Phoebe is also normal human while the elf if 500 years old

[ionic quiver]

as i said, we never know

[scenic condor]

also phoebe was right there on the stage

while we chased after kat

[ionic quiver]

no no

think of it like this

the only imperator in rinascita is katixiya

[scenic condor]

cartethyia

you mean

[ionic quiver]

who hold the unicorn + leviathan

[scenic condor]

[ionic quiver]

now

what if

[scenic condor]

not that name p

i cant

[ionic quiver]

the divine version of carthethya

is the girl we met

but the vessel is phoebe

who hold leviathan

remember that we have 2 NPC warning us already about the unicorn

[last nest]

Carthethya is known to be jinhsi equivelent so she is the sentinel resonatore

not the sentinel itself

[ionic quiver]

dont trust the horse + the statue of the horse is different the the tethys system record, on the record, tethys system exist and record everything

[ionic quiver]

hence its imperator

which is interesting again that KELPIE is also a horse

[last nest]

I think the pretty obv reveal is the the horse is threnodian while the leviathian is the sentinel

[ionic quiver]

which is what im thinking of

but as i said again

[last nest]

but in any cause both are fused now so idk how much that matters

[ionic quiver]

we never know

[last nest]

Since we know now that Echo and TD are the same thing the not all threnodians are purely evil twist is gonna come

Same as in PGR with ascendents

[ionic quiver]

now the other interesting thing

go to carthethyia image

and search up dragon of dirge

the cutscene

same crown

now 2.1 gonna be a hell ride

[scenic condor]

kat is NOT the sentinel

shes the jinshi of rina

we cant have TWO of them

and if both her and phoebe are playable

then only one of them can get this

it's like having 2 archons for a region

not gonna happen

[last nest]

Well fountain king of had that

But yes, Phoebe is gonna release in 2.1 and it's way to soon for sentinel

[marble sapphire]

||https://fixupx.com/Wachushka/status/1876302802076774572|| loredump documents thread about the Sentinel

[scenic condor]

hmmm

so phoebe is furina

[marble sapphire]

...this sounds like some Great Old One kind of thing

[scenic condor]

and kat is focalors?

[ionic quiver]

exactly

but we never know

[last nest]

No idk why you guys think Phoebe is so important

[scenic condor]

i dont get it either

i saw no signs

just bc blonde girl

[ionic quiver]

because phoebe is the most suspicious thing in entire 2.0

[scenic condor]

phoebe is cute af

but like

shes just dudu

literally

dudu

[ionic quiver]

i aint trusting a blonde girl in a new region in a church where murder and kidnapping happen 24/7

[scenic condor]

copypasted

but younger

[marble sapphire]

for some reason she's wearing ||the laurel|| in the countdown art

[last nest]

Oh, I didn't notice that

[ionic quiver]

from all the countdown art also all of them wearing mask

[scenic condor]

studious, devout, loyal, righteous and a bit stiff at times, but has a great heart, cares deeply about doing whats right and is not afraid to accept that she was following something wrong so far

[ionic quiver]

except phorolova and phoebe

[scenic condor]

like give her a bigass lance

and shes dudu

[ionic quiver]

in an organization where murder + kidnap happen 24/7

[last nest]

Yup she will prob have some special connection to the sentinel then

[ionic quiver]

i aint trusting that

[last nest]

Even if she isn't a resonatore

[ionic quiver]

i believe my homie in blackshore

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/Marcodmeatball/status/1876342820690342140?t=FtZaKOUdj6qCf6jvIiX7wg&s=19 I saw this when I did material farm domain

[ionic quiver]

if they told me do not trust the horse

i aint fucking trusting the horse

if the homie said the statue is different from the record, THEN ITS FUCKING DIFFERENT

blackshore homie got my back

[last nest]

The art

[ionic quiver]

at this point i only trust people in blackshore

[last nest]

Just so peak

[scenic condor]

cause everybody in the order wears it

and shes part of the order

they all have the white hat laurel combo

and it's not even a laurel

why are they calling it that

it's more of a jesus-like thorn crown

if anything

[ionic quiver]

now im more convinced that the church worship leviathan

[last nest]

But what if levi is good while horse is evil?

[ionic quiver]

we never know

[last nest]

But yes, with order working with phrolova something is afoot

[ionic quiver]

it could be something like the true sentinel divide into 2 threnodian

because it was never said that threnodian was completely bad

[scenic condor]

okay just to be clear

cause i skipp thru 1.0 blabla

threnodian

is corrupted sentinel?

[ionic quiver]

this is what we still on blur

[last nest]

Just a theory atm

[ionic quiver]

all we know in 1.x is threnodian is an entity that want to destroy the world through lament

[scenic condor]

so the honkai

[ionic quiver]

but then again in 2.0 we found out that threnodian can coexist with the people

[scenic condor]

and threnodians are herrschers

[ionic quiver]

the fisalia family

also in one of the story quest in 2.0

[last nest]

Also since Jue was just rovers pet idk about the status of sentinels in the first place

[ionic quiver]

it was said that the people of rinascita seek refugee

and the sentinel lead them

the question

WHO TF IS THE SENTINEL

[scenic condor]

i mean rover is god

so

[ionic quiver]

WE HAVE 2 HERE

WHICH ONE JACKASS, IF U TELLING STORY TELL THE FULL ONE

[scenic condor]

and maybe neither of them are sentinels

[last nest]

I am leaning to rover is alien instead

[ionic quiver]

thats what im basing

[scenic condor]

we still have 2 acts to go

[ionic quiver]

it was 2 threnodian

[old summit]

we know that imperator is also Rover's pet as well because Imperator called rover Arbiter as well

[last nest]

Jue cave looks like a spaceship

[ionic quiver]

the true sentinel is the fused threnodian

then again it doesnt make sense

[last nest]

I think it's one world with Pgr

[ionic quiver]

dude i swear to god

story is getting better

[last nest]

And rover is going to be something similar to Ishmael

[scenic condor]

lul what if rover is just a random construct npc who got loose

[ionic quiver]

im just gonna focus on my rococo

need her to boink boink enemy

[last nest]

Humans do have ftl in pgr

So they could have potentialy colonized other planets

[ionic quiver]

okay for this one it has been confirmed by blackshore

thus i only trust blackshore homie

i aint trusting no fucking horse

[scenic condor]

but....hmmm..i mean sure he could be an observer but like...observers make it a point to play clark kent when they intervene

and rover pre-memory loss was the arbiter blablabla

not exactly being covert there

[vapid prairie]

I'm calling up Camellya to fight a false god

[last nest]

the recording with past!rover says he erased his memory on purpose. Maybe that's how he dodged the issue

[scenic condor]

ishy being playable is already kind of a loophole

just to sell mommy

[old summit]

I mean Cam was apparently

Rover's right hand girl

[ionic quiver]

also one of the memory of rover also said that our rover need to experience it again without knowing the conflict

cause this is weird af

we never go to rinascita

theres 0 fucking script of rover going to rinascita

at lesat in 2.0

[old summit]

yes

[scenic condor]

no. observers dont do this. their interventions are usually about saving certain individuals who are important for the balance of said planet/world. like ishy saving selena from that laser thing, or empy from the empy frame. they dont act as leaders of a secret organization and doing shit

[ionic quiver]

yes there is a script of rover going to jinzhou

[old summit]

its confirmed

not in script

[scenic condor]

based on what we know of rover he wouldnt make sense to be an observer at all

[old summit]

but Imperator called Rover Arbiter

[ionic quiver]

but theres 0 on rinascita

[old summit]

like Jue

[ionic quiver]

then we need 2.1

[last nest]

Well is it really you if you lost your memory

[vapid prairie]

And Abby is our right hand and our goat

[ionic quiver]

because in jinzhou the way we know rover went to jinzoue is the script

people expecting rover

[scenic condor]

you dont get to break rules then lose your memory and say it wasnt you lol

[ionic quiver]

but rinascita everyone forgot about rover

or at least no one even know theres a being called rover

[scenic condor]

idk how it works IRL but i were to up and murder somebody then get amnesia i would still be charged no?

[old summit]

As a player, we at the very least know Rover was at least somehow involved in the civil war at minimum in ragunna

[scenic condor]

even tho i dont remember any of it and i lost all of my memory so im not techincally me anymore

[ionic quiver]

all script indicated theres no rover

only carthy w.e the name know about arbiter

[old summit]

yes but Imperator knows Rover

[ionic quiver]

okay

this is interesting

[scenic condor]

maybe all sentinels were his pets

[ionic quiver]

WHAT IF THE CHURCT DELTED THE ROVER CONNECTION TO RINASCITA

[scenic condor]

at some point

[ionic quiver]

BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE SCRIPT

THAT CHURCH DELETED

FUCKING CHURCH I CANT TRUST PHOEBE

[last nest]

Church defo rewrites history

[old summit]

Bro

in what game

has the church been the good guys'

[ionic quiver]

metaphor teach me that church = bad

[old summit]

Look at FFXIV

lmao

[ionic quiver]

DMC teach me

church breed demon

and for w.e reason store yamato

[scenic condor]

what i also cant get over

is the church being so incompetent

that they left that damn tower with the glass windows

just right there for anyone to find

[ionic quiver]

they can just nuke the place u are right

[scenic condor]

why not raze it to the ground if they wanted to hide the maiden's story

[old summit]

it was bait for truthseekers

[ionic quiver]

but then what the motive

[old summit]

to banish people who wonder there for answes

[ionic quiver]

if u bait them

[scenic condor]

aaah

[scenic condor]

bait them and ship them off

[ionic quiver]

why are u sparking fire

[scenic condor]

to the dragon

[ionic quiver]

when u can just raze the place down

so the truth buried

[scenic condor]

yeye i get it

[ionic quiver]

and then u can have 100% the truth

[scenic condor]

it's basically

[ionic quiver]

instead of just 50% truth

just make it like accident

u have access to dragon

just raze it

that dragon destroy stuff like titan

[scenic condor]

could have just actually removed all the stained glass

[ionic quiver]

and then u make likc the church subdue the dragon

[scenic condor]

shred it down

and thast it

[ionic quiver]

church gain 100 social credit

[old summit]

not possible, there will always be denyers, look at all the christians vs athiests right now in the real world lol

[ionic quiver]

win win solution

[last nest]

What I wonder is why echos and TD are so nice in rinascita compared to jinzhou

[ionic quiver]

then u can banish them

essentially u buried the 100% truth

and u banish the leftover

far more efficient

[scenic condor]

cause this doesnt seem to be a post-apocalyptic ravaged world

[ionic quiver]

u have 1 less plate to worry

[scenic condor]

and jinzhou wanted to give off that vibe

[last nest]

The small water spirits you can even spare