trying to see if picking her over verina or mort is better
#Wuthering Waves
vapid prairie
Intro: mini tornado
Outro: Lib damage buff
vapid prairie
You could always play Taoqi as your main
old summit
naw I tried that with 100 hp, died immediately
so Im doing yinlin turtle 100 hp run
so mort is the best option right?
marble sapphire
if you are playing at 100 HP i dont think any healing is gonna matter at least 
old summit
i dont get verina's dmg buff if I pick her right?
since you only get it with dreamless?
vapid prairie
if you are playing at 100 HP i dont think any healing is gonna matter at least <...
Play Calcharo at 100 HP 
ionic quiver
if u play at 100 hp
just go mortefi
get shield + fire element
the moment u meet thundering memphis
u just pray u hit the 50/50
from what i test
heron is the easiest
inferno rider on bike is easy
i dont want ot meet spectro element bird
since it had res
fallacy = free win
memphis is fucked up
crownless is okay
vapid prairie
Has Jue been added to the bullying list or echo choice yet?
ionic quiver
first phase slow movement, 2nd u have to be careful
marble sapphire
nope
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The 100 HP mode?
Changli+turtle is the best way
Changli got dmg immunity buff on her skills
marble sapphire
there are no new echoes i think
ionic quiver
they only put rider in IR
rough token
Yeah there's no new echo for now
old summit
just go mortefi
but I dont have mort leveled at all lmao
rough token
But damn
How the hell did the 1st generation of echo is stiill the best out of all of them
vapid prairie
Mortefi as support
ionic quiver
- tutel shield
old summit
whose the best so far then?
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Still Changli with tutel
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So even if you got skill issue
Her dmg immunity could save you
We're talking about 100 HP mode right
ionic quiver
yeah
old summit
yeah
ionic quiver
100 hp mode is really
meet memphis u pray
my run has been pretty nice
until memphis come
vapid prairie
Shorekek can't self revive right?
rough token
I haven't tried
Can the burning area door kill you?
ionic quiver
i never take that
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You know the one that reduce your HP the longer you let the mobs survive
ionic quiver
my door been pretty basic
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I always go with only training and deathmatch if possible
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Fierce Struggle is just meh sometimes
old summit
yeah but you get more metaphorts
vapid prairie
They could pay me asterite to go into Memory of Unknown and I still won't take it
rough token
Take the bait smh
Go gamble
marble sapphire
i did it because need to go to unknown 5 times for mission
but i have done it so...
old summit
hmmm
you know
since the game levels your underleveled resos to 80
I wonder if I can mort the 100 hp run
Im not even doing it on lvl 100, im doing it on lvl 95
marble sapphire
https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1859515883531477128?t=0SSd9EAHw5x_LAQhMW3Ndg&s=19 apparently ZZZ is 40k but I cannot confirm that nor know where to check
because that just doesn't seem right to me first hearing it
last nest
https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1859515883531477128?t=0SSd9EAHw5x_LAQhMW3N...
Zzz is very popular in Japan. I don't think it's as popular in China
marble sapphire
hmm...eh this is only 10% of vote weight anyway
vapid prairie
Every vote is one more dollar of bribes for AFK Journey to win
marble sapphire
possible drip with VA reveal maybe in 2 hours, definitely uh, new DQ related stream too which I would be checking
then I wait for another stream
last nest
Every vote is one more dollar of bribes for AFK Journey to win
This is my bet. Afk shit has insane amount of promotion
marble sapphire
🤢
the thought is making me feel sicker than listening to doomposting or sprinting too hard
vapid prairie
This is my bet. Afk shit has insane amount of promotion
I'm just glad Monopoly GO isn't a factor
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https://fxtwitter.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1859871774089019599
And they shit on Lingyang
marble sapphire
generally the white haired characters have been special in some way
vapid prairie
And they shit on Lingyang
Jokes on you. I shit on Aalto
Only character in the game without access to Illusive Realm
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Oh yea he haven't got IR pass yet huh
old summit
C3 Verina
and no Jixian still for me
reeeeeeeeeeeeee
btw
is the ray tracing also coming with the PS5 release?
last nest
https://fxtwitter.com/WuWa_Verse1/status/1859871774089019599
Wait till they see pgr
I swear white hair is someone's fetish at Kuros
ionic quiver
i love white hair character
except 2
of them
and both of them in WuWa
my MH character mostly white hair
weak jay
weak jay
my MH character mostly white hair
ionic quiver
<:hutaonotes:818511557897486416>
marble sapphire
me waiting for two things when the clock turns 0
DQ stream, in case its something new, and...maybe today's drip if there are any
by drip i mean the one confirming 2.0 banners
last nest
I knew Zani reminded me of someone.
marble sapphire
unsurprisingly no more news
old summit
i expect massive booba physics
scenic condor
ah saw the character announcement
4 female 1 male
of course
man im glad i quit
this game aint treating anybody whos not into coomer shit well
last nest
Same ratio as genshin btw
old summit
https://fxtwitter.com/shiraitoart983/status/1859900851068018939
i saw the other version
marble sapphire
glancing at WuWa, Zani seems to have the most number of likes JP side
...both EN and JP
rough token
Still have 2 echoes without double crit
Maybe 70/300 without any buff isn't a dream yo
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I swear white hair is someone's fetish at Kuros
Rinascita is the combination of that person fetish and Solon's
Since he love mermaids, he gotta be the one that's pushing the new Sentinel
It's half horse
But still
scenic condor
Same ratio as genshin btw
yeah genshin sucks ass now too kek. but at least genshin did do better before so i do have lots of males
wuwa has been bad from the start
genshin year 1 was very decent, inazuma was downhill, sumeru was perfect balance, since then it's been bad
young forge
yeah genshin sucks ass now too kek. but at least genshin did do better before so...
its ok
hoyo prepping to farm gazzilion money
fate collab
and flamechasers in hsr
candid loom
genshin year 1 was very decent, inazuma was downhill, sumeru was perfect balance...
Wdym
I liked inazuma first half
Only 2nd half story was ass
Cuz rushed af
marble sapphire
say its a civil war, but almost all of the fighting was off screen lel
candid loom
Very immersion breaking to find absolutely zero signs of said civil war
In the world
marble sapphire
the whole using Delusion thing would have been more impactful if...well, we actually saw it in action and stuff
candid loom
Yep
last nest
yeah genshin sucks ass now too kek. but at least genshin did do better before so...
That's the thing. Genshin wasn't "better". They just frontloaded males in the begning of the game and in sumeru. Overall they are following the same 1 to 3 ratio that Wuwa, Gbf and most other mixed gender gachas do
Pretty smart thing cause they caused a lot of husbando lovers to bite in and now the game somehow has the reputation of being husbando freindly gacha(sunk cost fallacy to the rescue)
scenic condor
well kuro should be smart then too
but they arent
and wuwa isnt 1 to 3
its 1 to 4
last nest
We had 2 male and 7 females relesed since begning of the game(if you count the 4 stars)
last nest
2 to 6 is 1 to 3
scenic condor
fine
still terrible
and genshin doin the same is no excuse
I hate it in both games. except genshin was smart and pulled me in so i stick around for nostalgia and having a good male roster alrdy
wuwa did no such thing
last nest
I can't remeber any mixed gacha games not following 1 to 3 over long period of time
It's clearly what they belive in japan and china
scenic condor
idk what hsr is
I always feel like hsr is doin good amount of dudes too
but i havent played it for a long time now
last nest
idk what hsr is
hsr did the same thing. At first they released more males but from penacony and the next arc we have a way more lopsided count
The next arc is flamechaser clones so you know how gender is going to go there
last nest
I always feel like hsr is doin good amount of dudes too
Again frontloading plus the fact that hsr released chars a lot faster than genshin or wuwa
We didn't have a single back to back male banner in HSR the entire penacony year but we had multiple back to back female banners
last nest
New character alert
6 star resonator mark so this is our Jinhsi equivalent for new region
marble sapphire
a fantasy elf
marble sapphire
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1gxkuc9/ww_info_on_rinascita_characters/ preemptive correction: ||Carlotta is described as a mafiosa and not a pirate||
open copper
Seems interesting
marble sapphire
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1gxvq9b/few_character_archetypes_by_yangyangjiang_from/ Electro DPS, are they following a trend
Phoebe directly competing with Jinhsi hm
most likely different offensive style I guess
last nest
Hopefully they can work together in double dps comp
scenic condor
gathering wives aside
i kinda dig some of the new girls
phoebe looks great
woman in pants is also peak
open copper
I don’t think that Kuro expected Zani to be that popular
scenic condor
I don’t think that Kuro expected Zani to be that popular
kuro need to wake up that coom bait is not the way
women in pants are usually exciting
tho honestly if i look past my rage about the lack of males i kinda like most of the new chars revealed
rough token
Forgot i didn't have her yet
Randomly pulled her from standard
old summit
marble sapphire
For VAs talk, it seems tieba already got a hint of the VAs of each of the Rinaschita resonators
||カルロッタ 植田佳奈 Carlotta: Kana Ueda||
||ザンニー ゆかな Zani: Yukana||
||フィービー 花澤香菜 Phoebe: Kana Hanazawa||
||ブラント 中村悠一 Brante: Yuiichi Nakamura||
||ボニー 島崎信長 Bonny(Unknown who this is, VA suggests male character): Nobunaga Shimazaki||
||ロココ 田村ゆかり Roccia: Yukari Tamura||
||カティシャ 石見舞菜香 Katixiya: Manaka Iwami||
||カタリナ 長谷川育美 Katalina: Ikumi Hasegawa||
no idea if these are essentially confirmed or wild speculation
open copper
This seems so high-profile as to immediately look like fan-fiction
marble sapphire
This seems so high-profile as to immediately look like fan-fiction
we'll just have to see in 13:20 hours with Roccia
marble sapphire
hmm....they say Phoebe is more consistent damage but doesnt outright nuke enemies out of existence like all the Jinhsi Gojo memes
Jinhsi beta design having those old timey round black glasses is kind of funny really
scenic condor
i really like phoebe's design
but i dont see how she will have relevance
cuz jinhsi so op
marble sapphire
marble sapphire
but i dont see how she will have relevance
mainly for multi wave fights
scenic condor
mainly for multi wave fights
such as?
old summit
cuz jinhsi so op
What if powercreep
scenic condor
random girl powercreeps archon
sure
i mean it's possible
either way
i redownloaded
then i realized it's camellya patch still
ew
this is gonna be a long while away isnt it
old summit
Cam is tier 0 btw
old summit
Same tier as jihnsi
rough token
Yea sure Jinhsi is op
But at the end she's just a nuke type chara
Sometimes big nuke is just not the way, more hit spammer dps pls
marble sapphire
Yea sure Jinhsi is op
But at the end she's just a nuke type chara
Sometimes big ...
right, i guess somebody i'd consider a hit spammer is Camellya in practice yes. The currently ongoing Pincer Maneuver is tailored for her since its a lot of waves of enemies that you can just....go live out your fantasies of being a beyblade or helicopter in
old summit
Cam also nukes btw
old summit
When her skill evolves, it becomes a mini nuke
scenic condor
quitting did good for me
i think i can make peace with wuwa being gathering wives
skip everything story related so i dont have to see the lame simping
and just enjoy the combat
i heard current somnoire doesnt have a single male in it
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When her skill evolves, it becomes a mini nuke
Yea but since Camellya is the hit spammer type, she still got stable damage dealt even without her nuke
Jinhsi however
If we talk about the character itself
She's kinda relying too heavily on chara rotation
And pretty eh without the right supports
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I guess at the end this is just my preference
I always like hit spammer type way more than the nuke gamers
old summit
Jinhsi is just a crit fisher
scenic condor
yea
okay now i feel a bit better
about liking phoebe the most
out of that entire lineup
rough token
Ppl just too focused on single big numbers sometimes
Hell, Changli isn't even that bad, but they still shit on her for not having massive nuke on ult and max stack forte
marble sapphire
ah tarot motifs
marble sapphire
i use her for overworld DPS because her CD is most likely down by the time i get to the next mob group
also inferno rider
scenic condor
ah tarot motifs
popess lol
is this a translation from cn
this is pretty cool tho
im very into tarot
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No za warudo or hanged man
We already have a hanged man
Lingyang idle pose when he got his acrobat thing activated
marble sapphire
No za warudo or hanged man
"The secret of his Stand, The World, is time! It's a Stand that stops ti-" "ZA WARUDO!" 
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We already have a hanged man
Lingyang idle pose when he got his acrobat thing ac...
Or well
Camellya
marble sapphire
i only realize how that particular line's timing is brilliant
marble sapphire
popess lol
High Priestess, etc
WuWa seems to be firmly leading for TGA votes in China meanwhile, what a far cry from all the doomposting 6 months earlier
open copper
The Tarot associations make sense.
But I am still not sold on Phoebe being Spectro.
The Rinascita Sentinel is a Hypocampus. Sounds more like Glacio.
Spectro also lacks a true Sub-DPS, it only has a DPS and Healers. That could be her niche
marble sapphire
But I am still not sold on Phoebe being Spectro.
||Phoebe is not the Sentinel|| they have already claimed
I mean you get what I mean
scenic condor
alr tried cam
so her whole thing is really just spin to win? xd
whatever happened to combat depht
the hanging from the vines thing is certainly funny tho
i can see the appeal
last nest
random girl powercreeps archon
Someone played to much genshin
scenic condor
well
this is genshin
with a kuro spin on it
you cant blame for thinking like that
the endgame content is literally the same
last nest
so her whole thing is really just spin to win? xd
She was some kind of quickswap monster in beta and broke the game so they nerfed her quickswap hard
last nest
As in, her rotation had 3 chars on the same time on the screen
scenic condor
which is sad cause at the start i thought it would be the core element of combat
oh toa reset is today
i came back just in time
last nest
No but seriosly, their is no indication that magistrates are going to be archon equivelent
Cam is already as good as Jinhsi
And lore wise Jinhsi isn't that important tbh
last nest
WuWa seems to be firmly leading for TGA votes in China meanwhile, what a far cry...
Cn really liked 1.3 and 1.4 pactches which made game a lot more popular there
marble sapphire
alongside a lot of improvements
scenic condor
oh they fixed being able to swap gear mid-run in toa
or am i remembering it wrong
i had to go outside before
marble sapphire
No but seriosly, their is no indication that magistrates are going to be archon ...
currently it feels all the top characters and DPSes are roughly equivalent?
scenic condor
Cn really liked 1.3 and 1.4 pactches which made game a lot more popular there
simp story worked huh
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I mean 1.3 main story is a lot better than the amalgamation back in 1.0 with all the infodumping
marble sapphire
apparently 1.0 story has been trimmed and streamlined but i have not seen the changes
last nest
If you liked BS you will like Not italy
scenic condor
i definitely will
europe aesthetic is my jam
i like cn aesthetic too but more on the liyue side
over the space cn side
last nest
Ppl just too focused on single big numbers sometimes
Hell, Changli isn't even th...
Chang going to be very meta when Blunt comes out
As he is her dedicated support
Same thing with Cam and Roccia
last nest
I was making a joke as appernetly he is rude and sarcastic alcoholic
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simp story worked huh
Personally i think 1.3 story isn't just a simple simp stuff
I see it as Shorekeeper, the artificial being, started to understand what is emotions
And being thankful to Rover, who made her discover all of these feelings
Also the "is this feeling perhaps, love?" line
The meaning could be interpreted as her love to a "parent", or "teacher" if we look at that last scene with the piano, since we're basically her creator no?
Holy yapping
scenic condor
yes
that part i understand
what was too much for me is rover feeling the same
when he doesnt remember her or any of this
just jumping after her to save her after being with her for what an hour?
eeeh
someone asked me if sk was a dude would i feel the same
and yea i would have
last nest
That's just standard heroic guy doing heroic things tho
scenic condor
still lame
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Rover trying to do everything by themselves again ig
Even after the memory wipe
scenic condor
but thats okay
not everything has to be for me
nothing really is in the gacha world but thats also okay ig
skip button exists for a reason
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The only part of main story that still feels like pure nonsense for me is 1.0
Like how the hell did you trust a stranger with weird powers immediately, and being all close to them
last nest
Cause they're hot
scenic condor
at least tower is still simple
with the same old 3 teams
when is changli rerun btw?
i always regretted losing on her banner 
last nest
when is changli rerun btw?
I think 2.1
Right,
2.0 is Carlotta + Zhezhi, Roccia + Jinhsi
2.1 is Brandt + Feibi, Changli + Shorekeeper
2.1 order is uncertain
2.2 is apperently solo Zani
last nest
2.3 is katixiya. 2.4 we had old leaks that it's phrolova
scenic condor
i want both brant and phoebe
tbh carlotta looks cool too
and kana ueda
we'll see
last nest
Well, we are supposed to get a lot of currency with new map(it's as big as the current one)
scenic condor
ah i figured out why i like these new units so much more
cause they dont have the weirdo cutouts
but have actual covered top
phoebe looks so smug
i love it
marble sapphire
Right,
2.0 is Carlotta + Zhezhi, Roccia + Jinhsi
2.1 is Brandt + Feibi, Chang...
if WuWa somehow wins TGA and we get a free 5*....
last nest
cause they dont have the weirdo cutouts
You aren't going to like this than
marble sapphire
the chances are probably not actually low, but i have no idea how high is it
scenic condor
You aren't going to like this than
yikes
no
unless shes some water spirit nymph
hair looks really good tho
last nest
if WuWa somehow wins TGA and we get a free 5*.... <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
Inb it's Brant again just to trigger Ariel
last nest
unless shes some water spirit nymph
I've seen theories that this is Sentinel in human form
scenic condor
Inb it's Brant again just to trigger Ariel
i dont mind this time actually
i have females im interested in
so i dont mind if hes free
last nest
I also wouldn't mind cause my Sanhua is stuck on 3 diffrent teams already
Poor girl is the real overworked tired women genshin players kept shitposting about
marble sapphire
Poor girl is the real overworked tired women genshin players kept shitposting ab...
she's also a workaholic as a character trait so checks out
scenic condor
sanhua's only crime is that raggedy skirt from the back
last nest
Well if anyone is free it will be a 2.0 version char. Doubt it's carlotta cause she has a lot of hype already
Maybe the loli
scenic condor
the loli is a 4* no?
last nest
No
scenic condor
oh
last nest
We don't have any 4 stars atm revealed as far as we know
scenic condor
alr now what do i do with my million stamina
everybody is built alrdy
guess i can farm xp
last nest
I am trying to get as close to perfect as I can on Cammelly echos atm(crit rate, crid damage, basic attack damage, energy regen)
last nest
i heard moonlit will die?
I think their is a new set for coordinated attack support?
scenic condor
ah okay
i could farm a proper havoc set for hmc ig
but like
element doesnt even matter
i cleared havoc side with jinhsi just fine
ah i could finish 10/10 jiyan
intro is still not maxed
last nest
HMC is pretty deadge, His only real use is dreamless burst
scenic condor
yeah
issokaY
as i said. element doesnt matter
as long as it's not a boss that has high res to it
i largely ignored toa buffs too
last nest
I wish we got a new boss echo for havoc cause Dreamless is akward on Cammy and I am not farming crownless
last nest
1-2 weeks I think?
last nest
I also heard that leakers already have 2.0 kits but held back on them to drip feed
last nest
It really puts things in perspective when we learn that Kuro made back Wuwa development cost in 3 days
marble sapphire
I also heard that leakers already have 2.0 kits but held back on them to drip fe...
clout chasing as usual...
last nest
And apperently Wuwa now finances global/kr/tw accelerated schedule for pgr
last nest
They added a lot of small QoL. Like the automaticly updating pathfinder map for mats
scenic condor
very good
now get me a dps who doesnt need burst mode to do good dmg
since i dont have changli
and i dont want cam
so i hope carlotta will be that perhaps
icant xdd
but she really does look similar to fem kamui
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Right,
2.0 is Carlotta + Zhezhi, Roccia + Jinhsi
2.1 is Brandt + Feibi, Chang...
Huh
If 2.2 really is Zani solo
I can just get my Jinhsi sign and then skip a patch eh
last nest
Potential big story spoiller for 2.X
open copper
So … ||can we eventually have a playable Ovathrax?||
last nest
|| Ovarthrax was very war like and destructive. I bet that this new therenodian is more into manipulation and control and controls not!Italy from the shadow. Alternativly maybe they will go with not all threnodians are evil.||
scenic condor
i dont even know if we have a name for the "archon type" units
as in a collective name
last nest
Sentinel resonators I suppose
rough token
I just checked the new ToA run
Kuro got tired of Jinhsi or smth?
Both stage in the middle tower is anti spectro
scenic condor
I just checked the new ToA run
Kuro got tired of Jinhsi or smth?
Both stage in t...
really?
oo
abom is anti-spectro?
i did it with jinhsi just fine
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abom is anti-spectro?
Both Aix and Fallacy got spectro resist
You could still do it but a little harder ig
scenic condor
aah
right
toa resets now
what are the side bosses?
if one of those isnt spectro resistant then i'll be ok
jinshi can go on the side
xy and jiyan can do the rest
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what are the side bosses?
Left is a wave of small enemies and monke
Right is just Tempest Mephis solo
scenic condor
Left is a wave of small enemies and monke
Right is just Tempest Mephis solo
easy then
aero buff on the mephis side?
marble sapphire
ah crip...fallacy boss
marble sapphire
hm something is off with my ToA clear, I should check my weapons are correct 
marble sapphire
open copper
So that VA leak was false
marble sapphire
i am either having skill issue on left tower monki or need better stats...
probably the latter i.e need to raise skill levels
of course, i hate the part where i need more of those star mats
marble sapphire
bruteforcing an electro boss with electro? Sheesh, maybe I should do that
old summit
for some reason I just cant do the jihnsi team well
because for some reason my zhezhi doesnt have either concerto ready or ult ready
by the 2nd rotation
so I gave up and put them in the mid floors
lmao
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marble sapphire
need more stats hmm
guess thats my homework
one of my favorite pasttimes is to just run around the city ruins near the inferno rider and killing everything i see
ionic quiver
one of my favorite pasttimes is to just run around the city ruins near the infer...
thats the best spot
i donee this for 2 weeks straight
marble sapphire
yep i need more power...
if i also managed to roll that 5* gauntlet soon that'd be nice
so far i have mostly settled on 7-8 because i have already seen how long it takes to get to 10 lol
marble sapphire
....i hope the next character batch uses a different material for once 😔
an existing one preferably, dont wanna monkey paw myself
rough token
....i hope the next character batch uses a different material for once 😔
I ran out of whisperin mats like at the end of 1.1
Literally everybody wants that thing holy shit
last nest
....i hope the next character batch uses a different material for once 😔
New region so not a bad chance
marble sapphire
i added that 'existing one' since i'd be back at square one if they add a new material batch for Rinaschita
scenic condor
how r u people so behind
toa was ezclear months ago
havent u guys started like day 1?
or at least 1.0
marble sapphire
i dont farm echoes, i get enough of them from the per-patch x2 echo
ionic quiver
@marble sapphire btw if u need stars, remembeer ur 12 rewards on IR weekly
those 12 rewards get u around 13-15 green stars
thats alot
marble sapphire
i am waiting on the new difficulty
marble sapphire
i am almost close to maxed out on the points anyway, i am just waiting a tiny bit
marble sapphire
i mean the 12 attempts rewards
yes, and i am saying i am just gonna wait a bit until new difficulty
old summit
do we know based on the leaks
if the clown loli really is the better sub dps for cam
vs sanwua?
zealous grove
if the clown loli really is the better sub dps for cam
Not enough information
weak jay
Not enough information
last nest
Kind of looks like kurisu there
restive dirge
Christina
marble sapphire
unsurprisingly the solution was indeed more fucking attack, i was already super near pity for the 5* standard weapon banner so i got the gauntlet....
now i can rest
i guess i could have done this the easier way by just having my best team do both floors
while this team does the side towers
eh whateeeeever
done is done
marble sapphire
the good news perhaps is that she's probably mid Feb
...so plenty of time to save?
Active event participation helps since they give quite some freebies
marble sapphire
anyway, I was working hard on a full clear for ToA because like there's a cheevo for full clearing 3 times in a row. It's just a pittance astrite wise but I felt compelled...
marble sapphire
https://fixupx.com/Nerothebard/status/1861409120395420097 Rinaschita lore talk is rather deep
one thing that drew my attention is that Rinaschitan companies are being bought out by New Federation entities. So it seems New Federation might be like a rising economic powerhouse ala Murrica
marble sapphire
oh right, the other is that, there's a coded message that says "Beware the horse" alongside a plot item noting how some Sentinels are able to evade Tethys System or Black Shores surveillance
versed solar
...so plenty of time to save?
good i can dw the game later
vapid prairie
If we're the leader of Black Shores, can I get them to farm Whisperin Cores for me
marble sapphire
409 you mean
restive dirge
Youre right
last nest
Skins are in
scenic condor
Skins are in
jinshi trash kidna
sanhua skirt is great
no more ragged shit skirt
i approve
open copper
Also, where the fuck is the Beta??????
last nest
Also, where the fuck is the Beta??????
prob next week
versed solar
Skins are in
sanhua so gud
last nest
Hopefully they copy genshin this time and make Sanhua skin free
open copper
Apparently they are indeed copying
scenic condor
yeah
2 skins a year
or something
one free one paid
kek
kuro has no imagination
bitch plssss
pgr has so many good skins
why cant we make moreeee
last nest
Pgr skins are to expensive tbh
vapid prairie
They should copy Genshin and make two skins for limited characters and proceed to not rerun them for more than a year.
scenic condor
They should copy Genshin and make two skins for limited characters and proceed t...
they will xd
last nest
they will xd
Jinhsi rerun is in 2.0 tho?
scenic condor
game is too early in its time
not many units to rerun
but in future they could totally do this
last nest
Didn't stop Genshin before lol
scenic condor
idunno
wuwa can be genshin all they wanna be
not even genshin can be genshin anymore
hsr kinda took that from genshin
genshin was lightning in a bottle and kuro desperately trying to emulate that is pathetic
last nest
not even genshin can be genshin anymore
Genshin stoped being genshin after 3.3
scenic condor
and it's bad for the game
last nest
genshin was lightning in a bottle and kuro desperately trying to emulate that is...
idk, the most frequesnt critisim I here are either outdated technical issues or the gathering wives thing which is not like genshin at all past inazuma
scenic condor
my criticism is that i hate the fking genshin ui
but yea you got me
fuck gathering wives
except phoebe
phoebe is a darling
and i hope she'll be broken shit
so i can lock jinshi away forever with her stupid crit hunting
last nest
fuck gathering wives <:WheezeTao:798596939619762197>
Lol. People on twitter had pretty much this reaction but with Zani
young forge
pirate dude and suited up girl almost make me wanna return
last nest
"Fuck this incel pandering haremshi...Ohh zani hot hot please be my waifu"
young forge
"Fuck this incel pandering haremshi...Ohh zani hot hot please be my waifu"
hoyo allergi to pants and suits/tshirts
so ppl interested in Zani
we got only like Kafka and Arle
last nest
hoyo allergi to pants and suits/tshirts
Tbh this whole discourse is very hypocritical, people just shit on what they find unatractive and than simp for desings that carter to their kinks
scenic condor
Lol. People on twitter had pretty much this reaction but with Zani
im good with zani too. woman in a pantsuit. yes
i always say that women are hotter to me fully clothed
no shitty cutouts
no wobbly booba
and no typcial cn design shit
arle looks phenomenal
and it's not different for zani
but phoebe just ..... yea it's gotta be the mini dudu thing
and that hat
and her smug face
idk i like her
heck im more hyped for her than the token male
so that means i COULD be okay with gathering wives
given that the wives actually have a design worthy of gathering
changli was skimpy but i still like her a lot too, probably wont have her on her rerun if she comes with brant and phoebe
young forge
i always say that women are hotter to me fully clothed
🤝
last nest
given that the wives actually have a design worthy of gathering
I do like the 2.x designs more than 1.x. I think 1.x desgins got rushed to some extend
And 2.x is almost a soft relaunch of the game
last nest
hopefully they nail the enviromental design. I really can't stand the exploration in Genshin with how slow it is after Wuwa
rough token
im good with zani too. woman in a pantsuit. yes
We already got woman in suit
Woman in a full body battle armor when?
But i guess that would be hard with the Tacet Marks forcing them to expose it
last nest
Easy solution, transparent full body suit of armour(s)
rough token
Easy solution, transparent full body suit of armour(s)
But looking back at it again
I guess they can just have no armor exactly in the Tacet Mark location
Just like Jianxin, her outfit only got the cut around that part
last nest
Could alwyas have open visor and mark on eyes
marble sapphire
things i was reminded of is that it seems Phoebe wears stockings that are transparent considering her tacet mark is visible on the thigh. Also, theres speculation that Zani's tacet mark might actually be on her tongue
last nest
That feels like coomer fantasy to me
open copper
Well, it’s either the Tongue or she strips in the middle of combat.
marble sapphire
That feels like coomer fantasy to me
in this case, its not because people notice she kind of looks like she has fiendish traits of a devil
it mainly reminds me of Drakengard really
scenic condor
We already got woman in suit
Woman in a full body battle armor when?<:ForteNod:8...
im fine with that aas long as it's not a sam bait again. make her female sounding in the suit too then im good with it
sam being another fkin waifu hurt
marble sapphire
i died on accident just as I killed the boss when his attacks were still going off and it didnt give me the clear
scammed
scenic condor
How did genshin stop being genshin <@155066250534453249>
- first of all genshin revenue is not what it used to be (hsr kinda does better nowadays)
- after sumeru the gender ratio got completely fucked up (tho inazuma was just as bad too tbh but at least sumeru made up for it).
- they dumbed down every event, like they are just.....boring. not even a clever puzzle anymore just literal 5yr old kids level of shit. we did get some decent combat events tho so thats me likey.
- theatre (the other permanent endgame mode) is a disaster
- fontaine story was pretty peak and natlan is kinda just wtf is this nickelodeon show and when did i sign up for this
- rerun schedule being completely bonkers (cryo characters not existing since wriothesley, cryo reruns not existing since 2023 december
- natlan is pretty much a huge flop in terms of character design and coherence
and this is how hoyo completely lost the plot of what makes genshin genshin
there. easier to read
last nest
For me the main point is lack of effort. Every year now has 1 event with actuall effort put in and that's it
last nest
So after 3 patches of story you get endless filler
scenic condor
perfectly summed up
last nest
Hsr beating genshin in revenue is hillarious tho. It's much better made game imho(other than dumbed down combat)
scenic condor
genshin was always made out to be a cash cow
hsr is still more connected to hi3 so they take better care of it
last nest
Honestly what happened with genshin really reinforced my opinion that Hoyo has 1 good writting group that they juggle between games
last nest
Hsr has the same issue where if we go to china the story insantly goes to shit
scenic condor
they probably swapped character designer too cause what is this in natlan truly
scenic condor
Hsr has the same issue where if we go to china the story insantly goes to shit
ugh yea. space cn was a disaster
last nest
they probably swapped character designer too cause what is this in natlan truly
Why is fire archon a biker tho
Like litteraly why
scenic condor
same reason as why the famed blacksmith, legendary crafter of ancient names and chosen warrior of the children of echos has rollerblades and a literal modern dj table
cause fuck logic
last nest
they probably swapped character designer too cause what is this in natlan truly
the only design from Natlan I liked was Citala
last nest
I guess the shark girl is ok to
scenic condor
shes fine tho her gear is too modern
but thats...passable
kachina drill is also fine cause it's close to fontaine level meka tech and she could have imported it from there
but i cant forgive dj xilonen and biker archon
first archon im skipping - even tho shes currently batshit op - and im not even sorry
last nest
also mc just standing around "witnessing" things for a second region in a row is stupid. Either give them something to do or cut them from the story completly
scenic condor
oh and remember how paimon got kinda less annoying and likeable in fontaine?
thats gone
shes annoying af again
i lived for detective paimon
last nest
Look at what epic 7 did. Their mc(ras) basickly a side char after his story arc ended
And he still gets to do more than traveler
scenic condor
look at what hi3 did. they retconned their mcs story that they were building for years to have an unsatisfying finale and keep her around as a deus ex machina plot device
but at least she still does something
idk about the new mc
last nest
idk, God kiana just chilling is wierd on all kind of narrative scences
last nest
I am convinced they will depower her or find some other way to job her in the future
scenic condor
she did get into a coma eventually i heard but then she just wakes up when shes needed like.... what
last nest
Cause atm it's the superman problem. Hard to take seriously your average crook evil scheming with Superman in the background
scenic condor
but after all that sacrifice her ending is chilling on the moon in her spa where anybody can visit anytime is....not it
scenic condor
I am convinced they will depower her or find some other way to job her in the fu...
they need to put her back into a damn coma
problem solved
but it's too late for that now
nobody will take that seriously and will be unsatisfying cause her story is over
shes just a plot device nothing more
last nest
yes they need a threat big enough to put her out of comission but that hard to do now
Which is why I have hope that Wuwa story will improve
PGR story is peak and if they can get some of the writting from there it will be glorius
scenic condor
im slowly catching up on pgr story
last nest
And pgr had recently finished with a big climax story arc so now we are in a low down phase. great time to rotate some writters to wuwa
scenic condor
mostly just reading thru the longer chapter recaps on the wiki cause i cant be assed to play thru them and waste stamina on it
i have high hopes for wuwa 2.0
hope they dont disappoint
last nest
The big diffrence to me atm is that PGR is willing to let it charechters suffer and have actuall stakes
scenic condor
pls get rid of the simping
PLEASE
i know sk and camellya simp both have decent lore reasons but no more pls
i might actually read story if the rover simping and glazing stops
marble sapphire
50 of them but i am sure they'll disappear pretty quick
last nest
Camellya is actually suprisingly well done tbh. They really explained her well
scenic condor
yea i read up on it
i get it
truly
i do
so im okay with it
i just dont want more simpery
revere him or respect him sure just staaaph
last nest
It's really funny how this works. The default assumption in Hoyo games is that Mc is always a girl while in wuwa i've seen the opposite
scenic condor
carlotta having that we are fated, fate will bring us together shit in her drip lines is also worrying me
scenic condor
It's really funny how this works. The default assumption in Hoyo games is that M...
no. not at all. thats only hsr tbh
last nest
Their is no way carlotta actually knew rover before tho. Timelines don't match up
scenic condor
in hi3 we are definitely male coded (if we dont count kiana as the true mc)
in genshin the story is very obviously written with aether being the mc and lumine being the abyss princess
scenic condor
really?
i saw the opposite
and i dont really get either. they are equally bland af as mc but lumine is WAY better as the abyss twin
hsr i get. stelle is somehow less of a cardboard
dunno what they did, cant exactly put my finger on it
but i felt the same
last nest
Hsr is mostly stelle unless it's penacony where it's more equil I feel
In wuwa tho I only see female mc when people comment on how hot she is. When dicussing the plot male mc is the assumption from what I've seen
scenic condor
and hi3 captain barely exists in the main story (except the moon arc which was shit cause of it) so i just count kiana as the obvious mc. as for hi3 part 2 mc they literally DELETED the male mc from the game so now you can only pick the female
scenic condor
In wuwa tho I only see female mc when people comment on how hot she is. When dic...
yeah cause the simping wouldnt make as much sense with femrover cause the males just dont really simp. obviously it's a straight coded game so the assumption is that mrover is what they had in mind
i do appreciate the official arts involving both of them in a roughly equal capacity
genshin is a special case cause unlike hsr and wuwa, both of them exist in the same world
while hsr wuwa is just a pick and the other doesnt exist at all
last nest
and hi3 captain barely exists in the main story (except the moon arc which was s...
wtf, if you hade male mc they forcefuly reasinged him to female?
scenic condor
yes
like there's an actual story behind it ingame
that the male mc gets deleted
hi3 is a similar case to genshin where both exist
the real reason is obviously the cn playerbase couldnt tolerate a playable male in the waifu game
im surprised they even went for it again to begin with after the adam fiasco
if i was super rich i would make a gacha game with equal genders
that would be so nice
i dont even want husbando only
just an equal spread
cause im reasonable
last nest
the real reason is obviously the cn playerbase couldnt tolerate a playable male ...
Didn't they tollerate Adam tho?
last nest
if i was super rich i would make a gacha game with equal genders
That's always going to be tricky cause the market makeup. I think you would need to do something with heavy focus on gameplay
candid loom
- first of all genshin revenue is not what it used to be (hsr kinda does better ...
Damn
Thx for detailed but concise explanation
marble sapphire
Their is no way carlotta actually knew rover before tho. Timelines don't match u...
as far as I know only 3 characters have met Rover in the past...that seems like a pretty small minority compared to the cast
ionic quiver
@last nest actually motorcycle hsa been founded in genshin
it was xianyun at first
but they cant powered it up properly so she ditch it and just stashed
and somehow that BP went into natlan and someone gave it to mavuika and xilonen just yoinked and made it
so ye natlan can use that because of phlogiston being OP
marble sapphire
... man, when i decided to go knock down those exploration progresses, its REALLY addictive to go chest hunting with the lootmapper
old summit
<:KEKHands:819036396714065960> i died on accident just as I killed the boss when...
oh is the last level out now?
or is that in another server
marble sapphire
oh is the last level out now?
yes
old summit
in the NA server?
marble sapphire
no idea if it has rollover'd on NA
last nest
<@249215895841275904> actually motorcycle hsa been founded in genshin
I guess that thier is an explanation for it but it still looks really stupid
ionic quiver
its not explanation, its hinted
like the ship in klee event on 1.x
every new mechanics are hinted in events
so whenever we are on last expacs, my circle will try to find the random stuff they said in events
we missed this one cause we think its a joke
until the 5.2 leak said mavuika rode a motorcycle then someone pull out the xianyun story quest
marble sapphire
amazing
ionic quiver
bike was another
what makes me shit my pants were jetpack + that hidden lab in the sky
imagine if they share that technology and actually evacuate people to sky so lessen the casualty
technically jetpack was more advanced than bike
and noone said shit to xilonen DJ as well so 
vapid prairie
technically jetpack was more advanced than bike
At that point the goalpost shifts from "explainable via lore" to "I don't believe it because it's not believable" circular logic
ionic quiver
i mean we can filter opinions from this tho
the good one that actually logical vs nonsense
like i seen more bike IRL than jetpack that fly in city IRL
and then people sorta make the jetpack things okay but bike = advance
people forgot that natlan was more more advanced than all nation combine because of phlogiston exist
and reason why abyss cant beat natlan because of natlan nature blessing of phlogiston that made them able to access nightsoul state to fight abyss
vapid prairie
Brother. A Melusine can create an invention that is advanced by a 1000 years because they randomly felt like it because that's their lore
marble sapphire
and reason why abyss cant beat natlan because of natlan nature blessing of phlog...
wild guess but i am sensing this phlogiston is gonna go away in the near future
ionic quiver
idk 5.3
and if u say go away, all elements we know in teyvat
its basic form is phlogiston
marble sapphire
its just a wild guess, because i have not been keeping up
ionic quiver
phlogiston is the most basic elements, we can say its deconstructed to its basic from so it can fill 7 elements
so w.e u need u can just shove it inside
people okaying with a literally space station in natlan vs a bike on an archon is 
scenic condor
Didn't they tollerate Adam tho?
heck no. it was major drama. he was going to be fully playable and due to the drama he was reduced to apho exclusive
scenic condor
That's always going to be tricky cause the market makeup. I think you would need...
ofc. combat and gameplay would be the focus
scenic condor
Thx for detailed but concise explanation
scenic condor
people forgot that natlan was more more advanced than all nation combine because...
this is a bs. if mavuika really has a bike why is she sending us to war on a hot air balloon. if chasca really has a flying gun why is she using birds instead to fly. she could have gotten to her sister faster on her gun instead she runs on foot and her sister dies 😂😂 xilo dj and rollerblade makes zero appearances outside of her kit too. ororon in jeans?? kinich with pixels?? bitch pls. phlogiston doesn't mean IRL modern technology. its sooo immersionbreaking
ionic quiver
im not saying its directly translate to IRL modern technology
xilonen can make anything with blueprint
scenic condor
i wrote an entire essay on this on the genshin channel so i dont wanna write the it again xd
ionic quiver
bike blueprint was founded by xianyun later on spread
also no one really said shit about chasca riding a gun
scenic condor
no. xianyun made a damn bicycle
ionic quiver
but when mavuika ride a bike everyone gone apeshit
scenic condor
not a modern motorbike
ionic quiver
it was bicycle later powered by their technology
but due to the time limit
it wasnt very efficient
and lack of energy thuster
scenic condor
but when mavuika ride a bike everyone gone apeshit
cause she looks like a joke not a god of war
ionic quiver
so she ditched it
later on it was founded by someone and try to do it with fontaine steam technology
and failed
scenic condor
xilo had no blueprint for a modern day motorbike please stop coping
ionic quiver
i actually dont understand the hate on mavuika bikes
when literally 5.2 chronicle story made 0 sense afterall
not even a laboratory
a fucking civilization in a sky
but still opinion is opinion
i can relate
hating is free afterall, i also hate some stuff in genshin
scenic condor
i actually dont understand the hate on mavuika bikes <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
as i said. hits too close to IRL so breaks immersion cause it looks too modern
for a tribal nation living in huts
especially
and i hate that she fights with it too
instead of being a bigass claymore war goddess
ofc they didnt put it into actual story either
cause it would look stupid 😂
ionic quiver
wdym hitting to close to IRL break immersion?
liyue is literally chongqing IRL
people work drink tea go to local teashop and work again
chenyu vale is literally the tea city in china
work to close to IRL got said break immersion, didnt pay attention to IRL got said breaking the culture
thats why i hate on the major stuff on genshin, these minor details are actually so bad to debate
marble sapphire
people work drink tea go to local teashop and work again
nah, thats just a bunch of Chinese cities in general
usually the major ones near the coast
last nest
a fucking civilization in a sky
man, genshin lore really went to shit with Natlan
ionic quiver
man, genshin lore really went to shit with Natlan
u dont even want to know what is happening in 5.2
the whole side quest about ockanatlan is fucked
at a point where u think thats avenger spaceship or something
old summit
WTF
NO FREE LUMI ANYWHERE IN ILLUSIVE??????
I CANT GET THE FUCKING MISSION COMPLETED
weak jay
she's not released sir
old summit
oh right
zealous grove
she's not released sir
old summit
time to pull out cam
because I think cam is the best reso in illusive
with SK next best
marble sapphire
i also note that having a good weapon makes things easier at least
aaaand, right, the play with SK was to combo with something like Inferno Rider i learn
old summit
aaaand, right, the play with SK was to combo with something like Inferno Rider i...
inferno?
no lol
it's dreamless
you keep proccing the dreamless stuff everytime
marble sapphire
damage feels too low compared to the sheer fireball spam from SK attacks
rough token
you keep proccing the dreamless stuff everytime
The best ones is still the 1st gen echo imo
Tutel, then Inferno
Turtle ofc because survivability and we got quite a lot of metaphor that increase your damage by having shield up
Inferno, mainly because he needs red orbs, and red metaphors is a bunch of offensive shit, also no click on echo needed, bro will just go whack the enemies alongside you
Also red metaphors got that combo series, which is a godsend for hit spammer
old summit
but ummm for sk, I legit think dreamless is better
rough token
I actually forgot SK upgrades
Haven't played with her much in IR
old summit
basically
you keep summoning a lot of butterflies
and when you lib
its always the gold circle
rough token
There's also that upgrade where she always activate the 3rd intro thing no?
rough token
Yea the explosive one
old summit
or maybe I did and never noticed?
rough token
It doesn't show the usual screen distortion
Maybe you just never noticed
But the big butterfly wings on her back always appear when you trigger that
old summit
but the issue with the dreamless build
is that you hope you get mort and dajin
you dont need healers because you are the healer
well lemme see if my SK dreamless works in lvl 100
Im gonna use all buffs too because theres no reason why I need to nerf myself anymore
since I did that run with cam
and just need 150 currency for max currency
zealous grove
rough token
I swear there's one
old summit
wowwwwwww
I died in the last stage due to bs
and where the fuck was my free revive?????
marble sapphire
I died in the last stage despite killing the boss due to forgetting to dodge the lingering attacks
scammed, gave me A rank
weak jay
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zealous grove
||paid actor <:ForteREEEE:818473938858279004>||
Verina Nuke DPS is real. 
weak jay
Verina ~~Nuke~~ DPS is real. <:SofiDoIt:938141213612187758>
Am not a believer
||friend didn't pull SK||
||smh||
vapid prairie
||friend didn't pull SK||
Youhu priority
zealous grove
Am not a believer
||Not mine btw||
weak jay
||Not mine btw||
||simp||
marble sapphire
not that their damage was the issue in middle tower floor
you just want to kill them ASAP and you don't want to be frozen regardless of damage
rough token
@old summit
This is the buff that i was talking about
It basically triggered her intro everytime you hold atk on max stack
rough token
Yep
Pretty sure "Discernment" is the nuke one
The good thing is that because it's not triggered by the intro itself
But because of the buff
It doesn't delete your ult field
marble sapphire
hrm no new events until like 12 december, sad...probably no new drip for 2.1 too because they already gave 2.0 if way behind schedule
on purpose
old summit
The good thing is that because it's not triggered by the intro itself
But becaus...
if you have a dupe sk, it gets rid of this
The remove field thing
ionic quiver
@zealous grove latest leaks were the skins sekka?
or anything else
nothing about carlotta / roccocio gameplay right?
zealous grove
nothing about carlotta / roccocio gameplay right?
Only their weapons
Carlotta's: 72 CDmg
Roccia's: 24.3 Crit
marble sapphire
Yinlin 36% CR, 500 ATK
Jinhsi 24.3% CR, 588 ATK
Changli 48.6% CDMG, 588 ATK
Zhezhi 72% CDMG, 500 ATK
Xiangli Yao 24.3% CR, 588 ATK
Camellya 24.3% CR, 588 ATK
For those that aren't aware: lower crit values means higher base attack and vice-versa.```