Wuthering Waves

[scenic condor]

but it clears

doesnt make it good tho

[unreal magnet]

It's really slow yeah

I'm doing double outro on her, foregoing SK enhanced intro to speed up the rotation

And it still causes problems

[scenic condor]

kek

well u cleared so

it's fine ig

it's just horrid

to play

[unreal magnet]

It's... OKish, tried it in overdrive and it's doing fine but i have skill issue

Damage and rotation is there, what's lacking is my execution

[scenic condor]

i have been testing sk's parries for the past hour

her ba1 parries nicely

but only from melee range. the ranged butterfly attack part doesnt parry or at least i couldnt parry with it

only the bitchslap move

it's just not as easy to time it

cause of how her hand moves

but if you treat it as a bitchslap

with a tiny bit of startup

it works everytime as long as her hand makes contact with the enemy body

her full forte pullin orb also parries

and her midair jumpdown can also parry but thats like... the hardest to set up. her windup is so long. so it's mostly for style but it's not at all practical

yeah overall her ba1 is her most reliable parry

after u get used to the bitchslap

so ig baizhi will still be the queen of ranged parry

she has probably the highest range on a parry (her midair birb throw)

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/xudun95576/status/1841121743227740540 interesting

[vapid prairie]

People who pulled Jiyan wep for Calculator

[old summit]

does baizhi want the new echo

@scenic condor btw for the encore changli teams where encor is the main dps

changli still uses molten set?

[open copper]

This Illusive Realm stuff will tie into the main-storyline at some point.

No way this storyline does not go anywhere important.

[marble sapphire]

oh right it's today...

[wintry maple]

Someday i will get double HP + ER on her echo so she reach 50k hp

[ionic quiver]

thats the easy part

u just think

i want this this this subs, game will give u hp%

i think of give me hp% and ER when tuning, it gave me CR CDMG and liberation damage bonus

[marble sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdRNzow9GQ

[old summit]

wait so

is HP% better than crit damage for sk

on the 4cost

?

[ionic quiver]

yeah

[old summit]

btw

is it worth being on the sol phase that unlocks at Union level 70

or do people go down after

[ionic quiver]

what phase on 70

i am 71 and i havent heard anything about this

[vapid prairie]

So you're not aware of Sol3 Phase 8 despite being level 71?

[ionic quiver]

u mena the trial stage?

[vapid prairie]

nah it increases automatically

3, 5, and 7 have trials

[ionic quiver]

oh

[scenic condor]

yes if u cant dodge well and you lose the bell effect very early into your rotation anyway, otherwise, no, the bell is better and baizhi can ult every rota with like 200-210 ER

[scenic condor]

molten imo. her dmg is very respectable and encore changli team is more of a dual dps rather than an hypercarry comp as changli field time is higher than say yinlin or mortefi

[ionic quiver]

what encore need for her stats?

this suits?

[weak jay]

||time to ping sekkadica||

[scenic condor]

crit cdmg atk% atk basic dmg

and up to 40 er from subs

[open copper]

Skin descriptions

[old summit]

@scenic condor i just realized

did I get fucked

because wasnt the original calculations for XY

that lingering is best set

[scenic condor]

i said this before

the difference is marginal

super marginal

1%

[old summit]

but is it still the best set

i know its marginal

[scenic condor]

if you dont swap off him at all then yes

lingering is only worth if ur stacking up the entire duration

and cause void is harder to make work on him cause u have to do a heavy

[old summit]

because the gg site says that lingering sucks

[scenic condor]

what gg site

[old summit]

cant post it

[scenic condor]

i dont use that site

[old summit]

bot auto deltes

[scenic condor]

i cant verify what they say

[old summit]

lol

[scenic condor]

i saw it

dw

it was wuthering gg

[old summit]

i know, like prydwen says lingering is best by 1%

[scenic condor]

what does it matter anyway?

[old summit]

just wondering

[scenic condor]

lingering makes him much less flexible

cause u cant swap off

void's problem is the awkwad activation condition

[old summit]

what about in a xy yinlin sk team

[scenic condor]

that team can also be played as quickswap

or not

it's all up to playstyle

i dont do quickswap in it cause i like to enjoy yinlin's full buff, but i dont play him with yinlin anymore so i do do quickswap with sanhua

if you dont wanna bother with void set activation just go 2pc-2pc

easier to build anyway

but really. no reason to overthink this. the game isnt this deep

to need minmax

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/KolyeG/status/1841358627422294334

[zealous grove]

I wonder what currency it will be used for purchase?

[last nest]

the paid one most likely

Their is a reason they give it to you with monthly packs

[scenic condor]

okay the coop event is actually fun this time

cause it's just a boss

ppl cant dodge for life

so funni to see

[zealous grove]

Yeah, skin costing Lunite is reasonable.

[scenic condor]

they are doing it like genshin

duh

probably same scarcity too

[last nest]

Hopefully better quality than genshin tho

[scenic condor]

thats a low bar yea

[zealous grove]

I see. Didn't know how genshin did it like that cause I already quit before they added skins.

[scenic condor]

people using random echos in the harder coop fight

sigh

even when i tell them

to abuse the op echo trio

jue+mephis onehits the heron shield

and monkey is just op for buffs

also i'm convinced xy is a cheat in these

if you bring 3 xianglis you can chain freeze any boss

[marble sapphire]

yes! finally fully cleared the side towers for the first time

[wintry maple]

Nice, do the middle one

[ionic quiver]

middle one rn is pretty much 100% clear for me

problem is overdrive LMFAO

wdym i have to make 3 teams

a good one with dps support healer

[marble sapphire]

i'd need to essentially do the 3rd node of each tower with a different team because i otherwise dont have the vigor for it

[ionic quiver]

u can use same comp for stage 4 left and right

put the strongest in middle one and u good

suits the element resist and middle toewr is easy

xiangliyao just destroy middle tower with shorekeeper yinlin rotation

[marble sapphire]

i needed two tries for left because of a single fully charged E whiff thanks to i-frames...

which is significant when that was a damage loss of 300k damage

[ionic quiver]

i actually tried solo chixia right tower

boss left with 15% hp

if that chixia has support a budget one and a proper skill levels and subs

she can

4* are so busted here

i think u should try to look at 4* for 1 tower

i been starting to use 4* for 1 sole tower

idk about sanhua main DPS tbh, she been doing greatjob as sub for my jinhsi swap

[normal egret]

[weak jay]

||arcuel in wuwa chat||

[normal egret]

[scenic condor]

you dont?

how many times do i have to tell you guys

you need 2 strong teams

3rd one can be whatever that clears the 2 side towers floor 2-3

and the 2 strong teams clear sidetower floor 1 and 4 and middle tower

before i had 3 strong teams i used to just clear mid tower with random bullshit go like hmc+fakin base leveled danjin with dreamless spam

or kakarot yinlin doing weird shit

which was mostly yinlin doing stuff and calculator sitting on the sidelines

just have 1 decently geared character and 2 whoevers who can proc moonlit and heal set (which used to be yy with healsword for me pre-sk)

[scenic condor]

this is how it should be done exactly.

[scenic condor]

verina is so much better for coop healer than sk

it's insane

sk is more of a buffer with healing on the side

verina can heal much more frequently and much more in value

[scenic condor]

and everybody is spamming fakin jinhsi so her having coord pays off

plus boss flies out of sk circle...

maybe this mode is meant to sell sk s1

[ionic quiver]

for overdrive

[wintry maple]

Yeah, If i don't play as Verina the whole team dies on that coop event. Random dps is fricking brainless

[craggy edge]

Proving once again Verina is the best character in the game

[unreal magnet]

What doesn't kill you dies in your place i guess

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/RatFlat/status/1841684419972915454?t=gKwvJO_BtYrhAhwM1tGk2A&s=19 somebody had a headcanon age estimate tier list, top is like hundreds/thousands years old. Mostly reasonable except Verina being 26-35 range

the top reply corrects them on that

[open copper]

That Verina’s age is …. Something

[craggy edge]

I mean I guess they don't like to judge

[vapid prairie]

Top reply referring to this

Also why she gets no break

[unreal magnet]

Wait, she's not a radish?

I've always been calling her radish

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/Are_A_R/status/1842169475573158077

[old summit]

i decided to roll for a dupe of sk

because everytime I play

her ult keeps running out before my XY rotation is done

[scenic condor]

how

are you ulting at the end of sk rota

[ionic quiver]

u can just swap to SK if the QTE ready

[old summit]

No I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right

It runs out like

4 seconds before I finish the rotation

There were times where I manage to switch to skip before they wear off

But it's like 1 every 10 tries

[scenic condor]

it sounds like you are not doing it right boo. i have ample time for my full xy rota and switch back in time for the super qte

you should be ulting at the very end of sk's rota

so the ult gets more uptime

if ur not doin that then that's what ur doing wrong

you could try telling me your entire rotation step by step and we can see what ur doing wrong

[old summit]

If you mean using sk ult right before switching to yinlin

That's what I do

Then I do the yinlin rotation and switch to xy when I get my concerto full

Then do the xy rotation

[unreal magnet]

Idk how it is with yinlin but why don't you charge concerto on yinlin first before SK lib?

That's what i do with jianxin

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/AdamGubman/status/1842422088562544703?t=n-WB3rkkr6CdORjHOklDsg&s=19

https://fixupx.com/imtenten1010/status/1842135581943271595?t=loyteXPf2tG-xYPzhH07tA&s=19 ...what

[old summit]

gg site is saying the new echo is shit, better to use turtle for SK

[scenic condor]

start with yinlin skill skill into heron, into full sk rota into yinlin skill heavy ult forte skill (concerto should be procced) then into xy

yinlin is fast but if ur this tight on time you should do part of her concerto before sk

so u have more time on xy

and problem solved

[old summit]

?????

I don't use heron on yinlin

[scenic condor]

huh

u should be

kek

[old summit]

????????

[scenic condor]

but if u dont then even less of a problem

then u just do mephis

where i said heron

rota is the same

but then u have to weave in heavies

to proc void

[old summit]

But like I said it doesn't matter now since I got the dupe of sk

[scenic condor]

waste of pulls

but you do oyu

[old summit]

I said I got the dupe

[scenic condor]

hope it was an early pity at least

[old summit]

Not that I was thinking about it

[old summit]

See

[scenic condor]

how many pulls did it take?

[old summit]

70 after my og sk

[scenic condor]

oh lord

what a waste

but ig this is what s1 is designed for

to bait skill issue ppl

well dont kuro smh

anyway then all that i wrote doesnt matter

[old summit]

Well the thing is

Here is the thing

[scenic condor]

you should have ample time doing everything without swapcancels then

[old summit]

When getting sk the first time

The first 50/50 I lost it to calc dupe

But I got sk in the very next multi after

[scenic condor]

i mean you still dropped 70 pulls on something you wouldnt have needed if you just adjusted your rotation

[old summit]

Ehhh I was gonna stop at the first pity anyways

If I failed the 50/50, I was gonna use guaranteed for camellya anyways

[scenic condor]

you still threw away 70 pulls that could have gone towards camellya's pity

and since you won this time you could have won cam

i hope you will have enough pulls for her

anyway no reason to dwell on this

whats done is done

[old summit]

We have 2-3 months left

[scenic condor]

2-3 months?

what?

[old summit]

Because I ain't pulling jiyan

Starting this patch we are only getting 1 new char per patch

[scenic condor]

why would you think the patch lasts 2-3 months

[old summit]

Because they have to run jiyan rerun

[scenic condor]

but jiyan rerun isnt a separate patch

huh

[old summit]

Char banners are usually a month long

[scenic condor]

no they arent?

a patch lasts 6 weeks

3 weeks for each banner

[old summit]

3 weeks is still almost a month

[scenic condor]

it's not?

kek

you said 2-3 months when it's 6 weeks which is 1 and a half month

[old summit]

Well I'm not f2p anyways

Never have been

[scenic condor]

camellya should be here around nov 10

[scenic condor]

thank you for funding wuwa 🙏

[old summit]

That reminds me

What's her element again

[scenic condor]

havoc

[old summit]

Damn, need to start farming havocs

I don't think I have a lot

[scenic condor]

should be easy

havoc is paired with moonlit

so very good value

[candid loom]

@scenic condor any waifus I like yet

[scenic condor]

no

well

changli i think you would have liked

shes dommy mommy like rita

[candid loom]

[scenic condor]

but most waifus have major "im in love with the mc" shit

so it makes them kinda boring

[candid loom]

Bruh LMAO

[scenic condor]

but changli is probably the best waifu out there still

yinlin close 2nd

we get 2 more waifu patches coming. no males for the rest of the year ofc

[candid loom]

and those were the two banners immediately after I quit

[scenic condor]

oh well

sk i dont think is your style

shes basically ai girlfriend

[candid loom]

SK?

[scenic condor]

shorekeeper

[candid loom]

Oh

Yeah nah

She’s Black Swan expy from HSR

[scenic condor]

her obsession with mc is the only one that actually makes sense but mcs obsession with her makes no sense at all

on

no

lool

[candid loom]

[scenic condor]

shes empy expy from pgr

[candid loom]

But she has black swan hood

[scenic condor]

woo

hoyo totally invented that

[candid loom]

Totes

[scenic condor]

at that point

[candid loom]

Anyone with hood is Aponia expy

At that point

[scenic condor]

just say shes adult layla

[candid loom]

[ionic quiver]

im doing it

who didnt use ER set on yinlin?

since im using ER set on yinlin XL yao E in liberation mode deal 100k

feelsgood

not sure if its SK insane buff or yinlin ER set + heron did help him

@scenic condor whats your xiangli yao ER numbers

Also anyone know how to build yang yang?

all i know is she use ER set with heron

[scenic condor]

depends on for what

but just go the usual dps build on her

if ur goin heron

[ionic quiver]

im looking for Sub DPS / ER set for encore team

[scenic condor]

no sanhua?

[ionic quiver]

im on Encore yang yang baizhi

i have

[scenic condor]

then what do u want with yy

sanhua is better in every way

[ionic quiver]

i saw her vortex group things up pretty nice

[scenic condor]

no it's shit

pls dont use her

over sanhua

[ionic quiver]

definitely a good unit in overdrive

im looking for 3rd team anyway

[scenic condor]

what the hell is overdrive

[ionic quiver]

the new tower

[scenic condor]

thats a one time thing

and u can reset

and keep the rewards

[ionic quiver]

what u can reset?

FUCKER

[scenic condor]

so u can do the entire thing with one team

[ionic quiver]

I DIDNT KNOW U CAN RESET THAT SHIT

[scenic condor]

it's the same as the other 2 one time towers were

[ionic quiver]

FUCK THIS

[scenic condor]

jesus

[ionic quiver]

IM 18 IT RN

[scenic condor]

i did it with 3 teams tho

it was easy enough

[ionic quiver]

i dont have 3rd teams

[scenic condor]

but feel free to reset

[ionic quiver]

[scenic condor]

thats a you issue

[ionic quiver]

but resetting

[scenic condor]

anyway run sanhua with encore

yy is trash compared to her

[ionic quiver]

i still get the rewards for 3 towers?

[scenic condor]

yes

it's the same as the other 2 towers were

that are one time rewards

rewards never reset

[ionic quiver]

jeez

[scenic condor]

121

[ionic quiver]

i never know

[scenic condor]

you people

[ionic quiver]

mine 191

[scenic condor]

and your inability to be logical

or read

[ionic quiver]

yeah we are on same wave length

[scenic condor]

why

[ionic quiver]

man i hate reading

feel like he doesnt need alot

with shorekeeper + yinlin ( er set)

[scenic condor]

he doesnt need more than 120

191 is fucking excessive

[ionic quiver]

wait not 191

119

[scenic condor]

ah

okay

yea thats fine

[ionic quiver]

im trying to get her liberation damage at least 45%

stupid RNg giving me skills

[scenic condor]

it barely matters tbh

dont overthink it

focus on crit dmg atk

rest is whatever

[ionic quiver]

okay

so from level 7 liberation

to level 10

increase my ulti from

279k burst into 360k burst

my E deal 160k now

okay if overdrive zone can reset

this is just easy tower

TEAM 3 WHERE

@scenic condor what ur highest jinhsi burst?

i did 444k with xiangliyao instead of jinhsi

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/stellasc4/status/1842526935546814730?t=iaiJdT10VwhrkrdFSSTgaA&s=19 he's self aware at least

[scenic condor]

dunno i dont keep track xd

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/maton_3110/status/1842488607438942637

[old summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1242300743214698527/1292135095918002247/IMG_6915.jpg?ex=6702a215&is=67015095&hm=c3a25cb763bc999c8725216acbd6225e0c21e2479eafe8b1527527ba34f02ed4&

[old summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/hive328/status/1842546530252964348

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1842746601728606335

[marble sapphire]

man, first its exile rings, now everyone wants freaking whisperin cores... it never ends

actually what the heck is with all these people wanting whispering cores, its insane

[marble sapphire]

anyway, finished almost all of the challenge enemies on Black Shores

[marble sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsqvAjBOQsc

[radiant fox]

Is shorekeeper a must pull?

[old summit]

yes

because shes a support

supports in gachas are always the best

[zealous grove]

Depends (especially if you already 30/30 tower)

[radiant fox]

Not yet

[zealous grove]

If you like her enough and you have enough pulls (especially if you're wanting to pull for Camellya), then she'll be a huge upgrade.

[radiant fox]

What does Camellya even do?

I'm at 140 rn and still haven't got her

[zealous grove]

Camellya, afaik, is a DPS that spins (like Piper in ZZZ) from leaks.

[radiant fox]

Might be thinking of saving for when Scar comes or something but if she's that much of a good support (like a huge upgrade from verina) then maybe I'll just continue going for her

[radiant fox]

Ah another dps huh, okay then

[zealous grove]

She is a good support that Verina is almost on par with, based on what I hear.

[radiant fox]

You didn't go for her then?

[zealous grove]

Yeah, I didn't. Simply because I may want Camellya, and I definitely want one of the new characters in 2.0.

[old summit]

bro

I fucking hate fighting jue

[weak jay]

hey

||madge bait statenent||

[zealous grove]

[zealous grove]

||Haha, is it?||

[old summit]

btw

if moonlit yinlin is better than void

want to see a video with numbers pls

[weak jay]

||yes if you want someone to lose 50/50 in camellya||

[zealous grove]

||I guess I concede, master Kyle. Enough depends on the person.||

[weak jay]

don't run

[ionic quiver]

its not for yinlin

solo damage yinlin with electro set + ER set ofc electro set win by mile

but with ER set + heron echo u can setup ur next character that intro

this is my xiang li yao hit in his liberation burst

mind u this is on overdrive tower

level 100 strong mob

444k with shorekeeper + yinlin ER set + heron + xiangliyao intro with electro echo

why doing set amount of damages when u can amplify the damage by milees into ur next character that hit nonstop

thats why ER set + heron is valuable because u can switch to ur main burst DPS like changli jinhsi and xiangliyao and just kill them

yinlin loses like 10-15% DPS in ER set, but setup even bigger damage boost to ur next character which can be game changing

[scenic condor]

rider is annoying as a coop boss

so many random meteors that kill me while im doin an intro that i cant dodge out of

[scenic condor]

it's for the dps not for yinlin

if you wanna yinlin solo dps then go void

if u wanna go xy yinlin or jinhsi yinlin then go moonlit

[old summit]

I know it's for xy dps

But I'm asking for overall dps

Not just xy dps

Can I see what echoes I need then

For yinlin

[old summit]

My xy is lingering set

[scenic condor]

moonlit is nobody's best set for personal dps. for overall team dps however it's always going to be the best choice for subdpses like yinlin zhezhi sanhua etc.

[old summit]

Ok

But like

What's the stats I need on it

[scenic condor]

come on bro

how many times do we have to have the same talk

it's dps stats

just like for anybody else

crit cdmg atk

[old summit]

Even the echo main stats?

[scenic condor]

everybody in this damn game wants the same stats

ofc

everybody besides maybe 4 characters are atk scalers

it's always gonna be crit/cdmg 4cost, ele% 3cost and atk 1 cost

[old summit]

So I don't want energy regen echoes

K

[scenic condor]

ofc not

nobody needs that besides the healers

healers are usally heal% energy energy atk/hp. sk wants hp% 4cost more than heal% if you want her to do more dmg otherwise heal% works too

[old summit]

My sk is pretty much done

I just need to farm more turtles

Because my current turtle is pretty meh

[old summit]

question

zhezhi doesnt do anything with skill or lib damage right?

[ionic quiver]

shorekeeper imo is best with fallacy of no return

[zealous grove]

Nothing significant afaik.

[ionic quiver]

especially with S1 active on mine, shorekeeper buff is eternal

[old summit]

Numbers were calculated

And apparently fallacy is garbo

Turtle is still the go to

[ionic quiver]

how?

tutel doesnt linger enough to get 2 butterflies into main DPS

[old summit]

If you want to see the numbers, go to the sk guide in the dotgg site

[ionic quiver]

oh god

okay those sites

[old summit]

Can't link it here, site gets sniped by bot

[ionic quiver]

i cant believe people actually believe those sites

[old summit]

Yeah well they have actual numbers

So unless you have numbers that proves them wrong

[ionic quiver]

the echo tuning also has numbers

but debunked

[old summit]

Sigh fine lemme turn on my pc just to get screen shots of what they said

[ionic quiver]

just dont believe those sites

jus play it urself

also equipping fallacy of no return

meaning u can get HP% in subs

without having 250%

[old summit]

Bruh that's how I play nikke and wuwa, I look at what dotgg and prydwen says

[ionic quiver]

i dont see thoes

and still beat towers

[old summit]

But I do

[ionic quiver]

the problem being fallacy of no return is garbo

is they dont understand that

10% of ER

is pretty big

u can only get it from subs

so using fallacy

u subs the ER Subs

into hp%

or even CDMG

if u have S1 so u can comfortable QTE into SK

and deal evne more insane damage

how do u tihk i beat overdive scar in 1 mins and 12 secs

if using tutel idea was to get more damage amp for team

then go ahead

[ionic quiver]

i can say those arent people that play the game

but u go ahead

[old summit]

and this is from prydwen

[ionic quiver]

prydwen has been caught

doing wrong numbers multiple times in HSR and Genshin

i caught them

back in 2.x patches

idk it was prydween or another site, but it was for yelan 4th piece

[old summit]

idk I dont play hoyo games

the only sites I use are prydwen and dotgg

for nikke and wuwa

and gamepress for fgo

[ionic quiver]

theres a reason why fallacy is being used and not tutel

and those sites areent even writing it

especially in shorekeeper

[marble sapphire]

so wait, is fallacy garbo or not

[zealous grove]

When in doubt, just do Fallacy + Bell comp

[normal egret]

souine, u arent trustable as long as u dont own a website

[ionic quiver]

i should make a video then

nah fuck that

[normal egret]

and they will still bash you with non effort comments

so we just let people play w/e the fk they want

[ionic quiver]

yee

i know this would happen in SK debate

[old summit]

i mean the only upside for my current sk build in switching from turtle back to fallacy

[ionic quiver]

while tutel is generally strong

[old summit]

is that I can qpuip a spectro 3 cost

[ionic quiver]

problem with SK with tutel is the non sinergies in rotation with yinlin

or any other units that want to use fast concerto

and done with it

and also build wise

u getting spared 1 subs

[normal egret]

i have a love hate with the bell, but fallacy is no doubt a 4c u want on Shorekeeper, u can do however u want for the rest.

[ionic quiver]

i havent level 90 my shore she and hitting 12k each on QTE

dogshit subs

only care 250 ER

if i properly do her like i do my yinlin

she probably hit 35k each on QTE

[old summit]

i dont have a lvl 90 anyone yet, they are all at lvl 80 and lvl 20 echoes

[normal egret]

ok feixue u gotta stop coping so much

[ionic quiver]

hey i did the "maths"

[normal egret]

alright alright

[ionic quiver]

funny enough the S1 on SK also get to SK herself when QTE

[old summit]

i mena i rolled for an S1 for sk because SK ult kept running out on me before I finish my XY rotation

and ariel kept telling me rolling for S1 was a waste of gems

[ionic quiver]

how are u running out of ult duration

i still have 5-6 secs

until i S1 SK and just brainrot

[old summit]

idk, I just do

at least now I can quick swap into sk intro during one of my XY Es

I also changed 2 things today

I made my yinlin from void set to moonlit set

and my XY from lingering set to void set

[vapid prairie]

Waiting for Illusive Realm so I can do a Fallacy echo skill only run

[marble sapphire]

so, do i need to find a HP% tortle or not...

[open copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1fxpfs1/via_stepleaks14_info_about_camellyas/

[marble sapphire]

interesting chart....turns out I do have a spare HP% tortle too. I should have enough ERR

[old summit]

But remember that the people here are saying turtle is shit

So basically just go with who you believe more

[marble sapphire]

:( should I complain about misinformation again

[unreal magnet]

1.4 is now about form changing it seems

I sure hope i don't have to learn 2 seperate comboes

[vapid prairie]

Lumi is racist

[last nest]

Our leakers aren't as good at drawing as genshin ones

[zealous grove]

Nah, this one's peak. I actually don't know what genshin leakers drew though.

[weak jay]

[zealous grove]

[marble sapphire]

if it's anything like HRover or Jinhsi...

[unreal magnet]

I don't really consider that form changing tbh

Their moveset may change, but that's also the only moveset used in combat

And their model actually stays the same

We'll see though

[ionic quiver]

literally no one said tutel is garbage

[normal egret]

misinformation on misinformation

[ionic quiver]

but pure saying fallacy of no return is garbo is not misinformation

[normal egret]

pure who

w/e they are both garbo, now pick ur garbo

[ionic quiver]

go jue SK

she can crit with jue in her liberation

[normal egret]

if u have the ability to read u will instantly know whats better or fitted to scenarios

its that simple

just like people who were coping on lingering

[ionic quiver]

i use lingering

back in 1.0

1 hour in the game

they only give those

shit game

[normal egret]

i read the set effect n i ditch it

at the end of the day u pick how u wanna invest ur resources

[ionic quiver]

i invest in something that i think benefit long run, and i test the stuff myself as well
@marble sapphire tutel and fallacy are both really great 4c echo that has different usage, u can use tutel like he said, u can use fallacy like i said, different is one of them optimized on rotation while the other not really that optimized on rotation

consistency in fallacy is better since 10% ER is like max roll on 1 echo subs, it can help ur rotation into another rotation immediately with SK , and also closen the gaps on 250ER needed for SK

and u can use another subs like hp% or CDMG

tutel also not bad on SK but she required alot of field time to gain concerto

meanwhile verina can ues tutel and fill concerto fast

[normal egret]

idk i think both are optimized because u use both fallacy and bell at the end of rotation however possible, but bell’s buff wears out when u get hit for the stated while fallacy doesnt

[ionic quiver]

ye

thats my point in fallacy

i tested

SK butterfly is really strong

fallacy buff stay until 2 rotations even

in a ER hungry char like xiangliyao

he want that 10%

[normal egret]

bell is good because it helps me stay, the downside is i might lose dmg depending how the boss is acting, generally u use it both offensive and defensively

[ionic quiver]

but saying fallacy is garbo because damage / rotation is insane

[marble sapphire]

thank you, speaking of, I have been playing hard mode on Verina all this time since I don't have the 4* ER weapon...I tried SK's Sig on her for one of my challenge/tower battles and was baffled at how fast her concerto and ult filled up than normally...

[ionic quiver]

and SK has trouble in concerto energy

which is why she will be late 4-5 secs into QTE

but energy wise, fallacy is really great

also atk% but i ignore that in equation

since i dont really care about atk% since all my buff is DMG%

and i have heron + moonlit set

[normal egret]

i wouldnt explain this shit into details, its like explaining why heron is good when heron is good

[ionic quiver]

ye

i think ariel already stress how good is heron

for like months

and im about to make 2nd heron characters

but dogshit game

give me hp def

[normal egret]

i just have a char that isnt built lv 40, do heron for me and i cleared whatever is needed

[ionic quiver]

palnning on sanhua moonlit

[normal egret]

always moonlit

[ionic quiver]

but rolls

rolls man

[normal egret]

bruh just let her do her job

[marble sapphire]

I have been collecting Moonlit echoes at least

[normal egret]

u should check ur lingyang or encore or whoever instead

[ionic quiver]

im doing encore atm

2/5 is set already

im still dying to find the other 3 piece

[marble sapphire]

not sure if Danjin should have been using Moonlit or Havoc set really

[ionic quiver]

iirc ariel said she want basic atk?

thats where the struggle is

[normal egret]

if u are running hrover or another havoc dps then surely moonlit

u are gonna just let the outro come anw

its that simple

read outro and u will know how to plan the lineup

if u dont have any, sure, get someone to buff the danjin instead

but eventually u will know where she is best suited, their abilities really speak for themselves

dont sleep on moonlit

[marble sapphire]

I wouldn't be surprised if I end up using the Havoc pieces on Camellya if I roll her

but I also fully expect them to release a new Havoc boss echo in 1.4

though, it's gonna be a bit hard to beat Dreamless

[ionic quiver]

But i think its better to pull shorekeeper

[zealous grove]

Basic attack is about the 4th-5th priority stat for Encore. Unless, you got the first 3 settled?

[ionic quiver]

I see

I have no clue on how her playstyle

But i manage

[zealous grove]

Here's the priority from Maygi:

[ionic quiver]

okay still CV the highest value

aite thanks @zealous grove

but going for atk flat 100

i reckon is still nicer

if i saw atk flat 100 i definitely continue the tuning to 5 slots

[burnt mortar]

one pianist shows her face, the other shows everything except her face
the duality

[marble sapphire]

I know like Ru's Piano does cosplay but Pan Piano uh, does more fanservicey ones

[marble sapphire]

hmm, 46% CRate and nearly 200% CDMG on Xiangli Yao with no CDMG Traces...I swear this would be perfect if I had a crit fist

...oh well

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1fy4i2i/how_the_21_character_might_look_via_stepleaker/

[ionic quiver]

yeah u are right

i sacc some of my atk on xiangliyao and put more CR so when SK rotation hit him he has 67,9% Crate

but his sign weapon is giga insane

[normal egret]

man, how bad is 1 or 2 of ur echoes making u sitting below 60%

[ionic quiver]

very very bad

i tried for liberation all failed, yoink my calc 4c while looking for 4c

fuck u def and hp

my liberation subs are dogshit so i cant replace

fuck def

[last nest]

You use fallacy of return on SK for meta reason, I use fallacy of no return on SK for lore reason. We are not the same.(tm)

[ionic quiver]

fuck def

[ionic quiver]

heck u wanna see me use aix on SK?

[last nest]

Aix is pretty cool.

And not as annyoing to farm as jue

Idk what were they thinking with this fucker. He spends more time in the air than on the ground

Basicly this asshole again.

[normal egret]

yea are u able to replace that flautist ?

looks doomed just like mine

[ionic quiver]

what do u think im doing rn

i have killed

5-6 3c echo

[normal egret]

reminded me of myself

[ionic quiver]

tbh it went here

[normal egret]

i farmed so many too

all gone down to drain

[normal egret]

lmao

yea my moonlit pieces are better than the main element ones

[ionic quiver]

if that atk is max roll

it probably the best piece in my ID

since yinlin hitting 2,1k atk

[old summit]

question

does my increased echo drop rate still get consumed

even if I dont absorb the echo

?

[old summit]

@ionic quiver can you judge my sk stats?

I feel like I can get a better fallacy but Im not sure if its worth the effort

[ionic quiver]

no it stayed theree

[ionic quiver]

go hp and ER 250% all good

[old summit]

just see if its good enough

[ionic quiver]

sure

[old summit]

and my current fallacy

[ionic quiver]

its great

[weak jay]

it's souine

[ionic quiver]

[old summit]

BRO

my fucking XY echoes are insane

the only real shame is that my tenmpest could have been better slightly

I'll prob farm for a slightly better tempest

[zealous grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/ftRB0nCZUt

Nvm, there's nothing new here

[weak jay]

||stop spreading misinformation||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/968171862922240020.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[zealous grove]

||Don't shoot the messenger. ||

[marble sapphire]

this info was shown since the beginning of day....

there's like another week before beta for 1.4 starts I estimate

[craggy edge]

|| Shoot the message receiver instead ||

[scenic condor]

im sorry but no. sk barely needs any subs. she wants hp and cdmg maybe. this argument would work if she had 5 other useful lines. but she doesnt. so having ER on every single piece wouldnt take away anything. so yes. fallacy is trash

if we only argue for the 10% er

if the turtle shield doesnt break turtle wins big time

no question about that

fallacy wins in terms of "ease of use" as in it's unconditional atk buff so it's better for pepega ppl who cant rotate properly or cant dodge to upkeep turtle

and this is true for all other healers too

[scenic condor]

if you meet the 250 er without fallacy and you rotate well/can dodge properly to not lose the bell effect then bell is better, if not then go fallacy

[scenic condor]

no people. come on. how is it this hard to read???? 10% team atk + 10% er (that's basically 1 sub worth) vs 10% dmg boost. how is this even a question

[scenic condor]

fallacy 10% er only works for sk, it's not teamwide

[old summit]

that reminds me

is it even possible to run turtle

in a spectro er set up

or do both 3 costs have to be ER

[scenic condor]

dont run spectro. pls

the dmg sk does is negligible

gearing for that is futile

[old summit]

Not spectro set

Spectro main stat

[scenic condor]

?

thats what i meant

[old summit]

? But even the vtuber said spectro er is the best combo

[scenic condor]

sure if u have godroll luck

if u manage to get 250 er

without er 3cost

go ahead

[old summit]

I did but I need fallacy for it

[scenic condor]

i just wouldnt waste resources on this

oh well then if fallacy is all ur missing for this to work then by all means ig

i dont think sk intro dmg is worth gearing for at all. id rather focus on buffing my dps

so turtle

[old summit]

If I switch to turtle then I have to go er er

Because I'm missing 9.7 er

Well actually not anymore because I got rid of the turtle that had 10 er

So 19.7 er I would need

[scenic condor]

go turtle

fk spectro

[scenic condor]

and maygi said this in the context of sk personal dps, not overall team dps

assuming u are able to keep turtle buff up it should always be thr best choice

if u notice u struggle to do that then go fallacy

its that simple

bis doesnt matter if u cant actually take advantage of it

bis is what works for you the best

[north venture]

can i just slap sk onto any team

[marble sapphire]

technically yes, but she prefers quick rotating teams

ugh...feels like i cant stop myself from murdering when i see any whisperin enemies...

[north venture]

not sure if i even have anything that qualifies as quick rotating

[marble sapphire]

5*s?

[north venture]

i dont have anyone newer than yinlin

[marble sapphire]

examples would be like Encore/Sanhua or Encore/Yinlin, their concerto charges fast enough that the team playstyle has you quickly switching between characters

[north venture]

this is my entire roster LOL

[marble sapphire]

missing free XLY who pairs perfectly with Yinlin and SK kind of hurts

[north venture]

gg

[marble sapphire]

https://fixupx.com/anxientdesu/status/1843186940444917868 conclusion of thread according to poster, it's actually only like 2, maybe 3. But players being players...

[last nest]

Ahoy, matey

Or alternativ.

[scenic condor]

you slept on xy patch? lol

thats a shame

missing a brilliant free unit

[north venture]

i was busy

[vapid prairie]

||https://fxtwitter.com/ennu_1/status/1843648498149015938||

[marble sapphire]

if the angle was a bit different it'd be the SHAFT headtilt

[zealous grove]

||Lumi's ult Art not as fire as the sword one, but still 🔥 https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/s/bfAhHJGaEP||

[marble sapphire]

seriously though, leaking via drawing sketches causing the artists in the community to guess? it's...kind of brilliant

[zealous grove]

Yeah, it is. It allows the community to be more engaged which is a good way to advertise indirectly. (Though, I'm not sure if Kuro intended it)

[north venture]

does farming skill mats get any less shit or am i just skill issued

[zealous grove]

Things like Howlers? I needed to farm by defeating enemies.

[open copper]

Are you using the Food that increases Drop Rate?

[north venture]

no the purple ones u need for lv5+

theres a drop rate food

wat

[zealous grove]

Ah, Idr if I got 3 per run or something.

The ones you get from weeklies, right?

[north venture]

the domain ones

drips

etc

[open copper]

There is food for echos/credits/mats. They come in different rarities, so I think you can get higher value food than just 50%.

[north venture]

overworld only gg

[old summit]

encore doesnt have any reso lib damage right?

[marble sapphire]

the damage while in her ult is liberation i think

[scenic condor]

no it's not

it's basic atk

[scenic condor]

no

[old summit]

damn my encore might have a couple of dead lines

yeah 2 dead lines basically

my zhezhi also has 3 dead liens too since they are lib

lines*

and I dont think she has any lib either

but her 4 cost is a temp echo until her rerun banner comes and I get her sig

and the 4cost has one of the dead lib lines

[zealous grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQVaqbFaQbk

[weak jay]

friend

[normal egret]

pretty sure its written in the kit

so idk why are people calling it a ' bug '

[zealous grove]

[old summit]

bold of you to assume localization TLs are accurate

[normal egret]

it has been accurate, the only thing inaccurate is to understand what it meant tbh

[old summit]

but if they said they are gonna fix it

[normal egret]

cause thats how it was written in cn as well

[old summit]

or they wrote the skill wrong

[normal egret]

maybe thats the case

i cant tell whats the og intention anyway

tbh the cn's description has always look like a huge jumble of text to begin with

[old summit]

question

in the passive skills that you level

that are like "Increase ATK by X%"

does that increase get shown in the stat page?

[old summit]

hmmm, should I use my moonlit changli echoes as xp fodder

[marble sapphire]

new exploration and also mini parkour event...but what matters is they are giving out a lot more character ascension mats

[ionic quiver]

what mats?

stars mats?

[marble sapphire]

the top tier mats

rings, stars, balls

[ionic quiver]

LETS GO

[normal egret]

[old summit]

bro

I fucking hate farming tortoise

because it can fucking give either healing or moonlit

every other fucking 4 cost is one element only

[last nest]

Reject the turtle, embrace modernity

[scenic condor]

i hate the fucking whisperin mat

everybody fucking wants this

this feels like handguard

all over again

[zealous grove]

While me, I always needed Howlers

[scenic condor]

anyway

shes done

i slept on her for so long - i meant it wasnt really sleeping i just didnt really get to her

but now shes done

and until changli rerun she'll be with xy

or well....until someone else with similarly fast concerto but a better outro comes along

hope that 2.1 dude will be someone like that

cause he will rerun with changli most likely - if the reruns go in order

[old summit]

they released a patch to fix the bug

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/stepleaks/status/1844635925864714665

[old summit]

so do we know if cam is a sub dps or main dps?

like I legit hope

shes a sub dps

so that I can run havoc rover and cam

make them be gay for each other

[zealous grove]

"Camellya skill/talent (?) icons

via stepleaker"

[vapid prairie]

Wait. Is the leftmost icon meant to be what that shitty circle and line drawing meant to be?

[zealous grove]

Hey, that was peak art. /s

But, I don't think so since the "circle" is in the handle area. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of mentioning both the type of weapon and her icon.

[ionic quiver]

lol they even leak 2.0 maps concept already

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/camellyawuwa/status/1844634135169581404

[marble sapphire]

looks like a bloody thorn

https://fixupx.com/camellyawuwa/status/1844666702556000713 reminds me of the Hanged Man Arcana

[old summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/hongyatta/status/1844316946696909200

[zealous grove]

Lumi Ult Anim

[weak jay]

hey

||where's more camellya art?||

[zealous grove]

#1241880796353265746 message
#1241880796353265746 message

[old summit]

damn

cam main dps

cant pair her and rover

[marble sapphire]

Changli also Main DPS, that just meant you run dual DPS setup

[old summit]

yes but changli has a buffing outro

cam doesnt even do that

shes 100% selfish

[marble sapphire]

guess that means its the Rover thats supporting

[old summit]

rover doesnt do that either

lol

in fact

her BiS is most likely sanwha

[scenic condor]

yea shes meant to be a hmc creep probably

or u can run triple havoc

and spam dreamless

[old summit]

btw

is the other girl a purple

or gold?

[zealous grove]

Lumi is a 4* if that's what you're asking

[old summit]

nice because

damn

dat ass thicc

[weak jay]

||friend promote thicc character||

[zealous grove]

She is cute. ||And, I just saw some Camellya gameplay||

[weak jay]

||dm me camellya gameplay||

[zealous grove]

||No need, I'm posting it here ||

Via mero

[weak jay]

||what is via mero ||

[zealous grove]

||Source||

[scenic condor]

cam looks cool

her outfit is kinda bleh

but the kit looks really cool

she looks like they ported bambis kit from pgr

[ionic quiver]

fucking materials

IS STARS AGAIN

[ionic quiver]

gifff link on the post

i need the fxtwitter

[marble sapphire]

Star Platinum! summon ORAORA echo

[zealous grove]

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Universe/status/1844722641791279521

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Universe/status/1844723259520041072

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Universe/status/1844723667479011339

https://fixupx.com/WuWa_Universe/status/1844725249352364360

[marble sapphire]

a broadblade?

[zealous grove]

Yeah, apparently

[zealous grove]

I like the little "run-in-place" she does.

[scenic condor]

always

[open copper]

So, Camellya stays immobile while using her skill?

That’s frankly a bummer

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/deviltakoyaki/status/1844662589630157123/photo/1

Electro BBlade?

Stop it Kuro. Churro is already dead

[candid loom]

Camellya is here

Pog

@scenic condor time to reinstall and lose to the furry ice boi again

[young forge]

@burnt mortar waited for her

[candid loom]

Rikku can get bent

Camellya was my simp target from day 1 of her reveal