Wuthering Waves

[vapid prairie]

Here's the map location

[wintry maple]

This one easier bruh

[young drift]

well Verina is S2 now at least

[vapid prairie]

Wait. They couldn't snipe you with those projectiles? I found it hard to fight them purely because of the backflip move

[wintry maple]

Just dodge

[vapid prairie]

Never confirmed her origin. Maybe once you unlock her and increase intimacy for character story

Sadly the ingame gallery doesn't tell us much

Huanglong as her birthplace doesn't tell us much. Because Jianxin has Huanglong as birthplace but she was born in the wild.

[wintry maple]

Based on her name, her birthplace definitely Huanglong

If we talk about Origin, those that not born in Huanglong doesn't have chinese name. Encore, Aalto, Calcharo, Verina, Mortefi are all non chinese sounding name

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. Those 5 are New Federation

I dunno or forget if the Fractsidus are only in Huanglong.

[marble sapphire]

Huanglong is just the country and the island is definitely considered Huanglong territory i think

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. The place we can explore atm is considered the outer region of Huanglong and Jinzhou is only one of six cities. Even if Jinhsi says that Jinzhou is pretty minor and no one would give a fuck if it got frozen but hey

[marble sapphire]

it's a new but rapidly developing city

.....suddenly makes me wonder if other cities also have a guardian deity + I guess we might be stuck in Huanglong until next year

[vapid prairie]

Jinzhou only has a guardian deity because Rover planted Jue there during Jinzhou's founding. If there are guardian deities, maybe the "advanced" talking echoes?

[marble sapphire]

guess that makes Jinzhou automatically unique compared to other cities I assume

[young forge]

they mentioned every nation has guardian no?

[open copper]

The citizens of that island sure have a nasty deal, huh?

Gonna pull Phoenix Lady, very pretty in-game.

[vapid prairie]

Oh right. Think Yangyang mentioned that once within Act 1 when introducing us to the Jue statue.

[marble sapphire]

hrrrrm I simply have mixed feelings over the idea we might be entirely in Huanglong for some time. Unless each city is sufficiently different

[vapid prairie]

Luckily it's a relatively small population of below 100 if I had to guess.

[open copper]

Every Nation typically has one Sentinel (God).
The Nation of Huanglong (China) is special, because it’s Sentinel has split into 6, so there are 6 of them.

Nations that we know exist:
Huanglong - China
New Federation - USA
Rias - ????
??? - Russian equivalent

[quasi moth]

I need 30 more pulls

painge

[quasi moth]

Neat

I can guarantee Jinshi and maybe get her weapon

[vapid prairie]

This outdated tho. Coral got changed to 7 of each roll per patch. Also 10 of each roll from an event on July 4

[quasi moth]

Stonks

I mean either way, I should have Jinshi guaranteed

[young drift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881519787883249724/1256667952741351444/image.png?ex=66819abb&is=6680493b&hm=4465d3534e9f2b2791296cfd0a96314e64c168015670f9686894ca9f9e8bf43c&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/521368730895122442/1256668082295017563/image.png?ex=66819ada&is=6680495a&hm=a8b8a41f79eaacc02dce7e8543eec9424a3060def33d8ca270a7b30589cdff0a&

aaaa

[quasi moth]

Uhhh what

How the fuck

Did ya get her bands from the shop?

[young drift]

1

[quasi moth]

I see

So just need 1 more Jinshi and get the second band

[young drift]

yup

68 corral tho..

and no pulls...

[quasi moth]

Also man low pitied on jinshis

Damn

[scenic condor]

the fuck is this mad luck

truly

[young drift]

I'm not gonna question it anymore

I'll just keep going

if it happens it happens

[nocturne tinsel]

well s6 SMC has pretty decent damage

[scenic condor]

but why would u use smc over hmc

[nocturne tinsel]

idk

[open copper]

I wish that the MC got another Spectro version.

Havoc MC animations mog SMC’s one so hard, it’s sad.

[scenic condor]

how tf

surely a fake

[marble sapphire]

hmm yeah, one loading script tip notes that Sentinels are a thing wherever civilization is, so the other cities all have their own guardian deity

[wintry maple]

Well at lvl 80 it possible. People already reaching UL50 after all

Mine will already UL 48. Probably will reach 50 by the end of the week

when is illusive realm s2?

I am at 36 pity and still no Jinhsi. Pain

[manic rune]

thursday

[wintry maple]

I am questioning why they not make it available from the start

[manic rune]

idk

[zealous grove]

Its possible they are still working on the character/s kits for the mode at least.

Not sure if they announced which characters they will be made available aside from Jinhsi or maybe Changli (but not unlocked yet).

[marble sapphire]

UL46 here, I feel I don't have the power level for more tower clears yet

I assume having lower level than enemy actually debuffs damage

[manic rune]

oh look , changli is guaranteed xd

pulled for fun with today's 2 free pulls

my last words

[marble sapphire]

ok i didnt get skill issued

[wintry maple]

Time to 100% tiger's maw. Hope Jinhsi come home after that

[young summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/kemon1412/status/1807064200080179447?s=61

[vapid prairie]

https://fxtwitter.com/KURONEKO9_/status/1807068164234322186

[nocturne tinsel]

lmao

[marble sapphire]

😄

[ionic quiver]

back to synthesis farm ⛑️

[ionic quiver]

@vapid prairie do almost broke consider broke?

[vapid prairie]

You peaked at 36k credits

[marble sapphire]

man, sidequest where I infiltrate exiles but end up fighting the camp anyway

the entire time I wondered why didn't I just do that in the first place

[manic rune]

it took quite some time too

i just saw a video showing full stack changli ult and it was so hot

[vapid prairie]

The only non-lewd one somehow

[hushed light]

wtf\

[scenic condor]

yea okay

checked on that solo rover dude again

lv80 is a huge jump

basically smc can solo everything in the game

this is what i meant when i said that the game will be bullshit easy

[vapid prairie]

Yeah I heard a post say that Level 80 gets rids of a huge penalty in ToA

[scenic condor]

as we get to higher level

[last nest]

Same as genshin than.

Makes sense things they are trying to appeal to casual audience

[manic rune]

the harder contents are hologram and middle tower

[scenic condor]

holograms arent hard at all

we are just underleveled

the level penalty is severe

[scenic condor]

even easiee than genhsin id say

genshin u won't solo abyss with lv 80 unless its neuvi or rizz but even then its questionable

here it seems like its anybodys game

[marble sapphire]

lets not end up like all those people complaining its too easy and then they end up making the middle tower or some levels of the tower impossibly stat bloat

[last nest]

Genshin abyss got significatnly harder. I wouldn't be suprised if first abyssess were also clearable solo

[marble sapphire]

...watching lacari play the middle tower with Jinhsi, Yuanwu and Verina, i am making a face at how he doesnt even bother trying to quickswap Yuanwu to fill forte gauge

by the time he remembers its too late lol

...eh wait i am not sure his team is even level 80

[scenic condor]

but we didnt get to it this fast

[scenic condor]

im not complaining

it was just a statement

im alrdy disappointed in wuwa for ignoring deeper combat mechanics

but i made my peace with it

at least this makes it easier to skip "meta"

[marble sapphire]

...was there ever a mobage you werent disappointed at in the past year...

on another look, yeah, this streamer is only 70 and trying to tackle a level 100 boss

ofc

[formal jetty]

Been blocking myself from this chat these past days to avoid spoilers

Just now got to finish the new story

So many improvements

[vapid prairie]

Whatcha think of Abby?

[formal jetty]

It barely appeared which is good

If it was the one explaining stuff during the journey itd be super annoying for sure

[manic rune]

it sleeps and doesnt yap as much as paimon

10/10

[formal jetty]

I wont jinx it

[manic rune]

yea , for now

[formal jetty]

But so far so good

Bro has as much memory loss as us it looks like

So it won’t act like a knowitall and be ur 24/7 guide

[vapid prairie]

Too batbrain to help us

[marble sapphire]

it's role is more similar to Vee-kun from GBF

made clear from the get go that it's potentially super powerful

[vapid prairie]

Abby is way closer to the mascots we actually expect from anime than Paimon

[marble sapphire]

... meanwhile...man I don't remember them trying to hint or slowly build up about what Paimon is supposed to be

[formal jetty]

They must have worked on this new zone for awhile i think

Next patch is in 7 weeks i dont think it will be as good

[marble sapphire]

people notice that you can actually see Mt Firmament at the border of the map in 1.0

I think

[formal jetty]

Let me see

Oh u meant in 1.0

I can see it clearly now

I havent finished exploring the old map

Esp this far down

[scenic condor]

whats a mobage oo

rings a bell. it's the jp site thru which we log into gbf

[marble sapphire]

mobile game...all threads under this channel or Hoyoverse....

[scenic condor]

aah

of course

i have not been disappointed by pgr much

nor AK

heck not even genshin is disappointing anymore (cause i dont expect anything )

[formal jetty]

Ah yes

[scenic condor]

wuwa is only disappointing cause i expected too much

[formal jetty]

It is true

It was expected by many to be strictly better than genshin

[scenic condor]

and hsr was shit from beginning

i just delulud myself into thinking it wasnt

so in all honesty my disappointment is caused by myself

[scenic condor]

yep

not even in every field

it's mostly the combat for me

[formal jetty]

Yea

[scenic condor]

exploration is clearly better

[formal jetty]

Characters are subjective

[scenic condor]

but da combat is a huge ass letdown

[formal jetty]

Its good for me but i never expected it to be as crazy as pgr

[scenic condor]

me neither

but

i expected....more

not genshin style "pop supports, unga dps"

[formal jetty]

I do kinda want some sort of time freeze mechanic

Its super cool in pgr

[scenic condor]

yea matrix is pog

honestly as soon as i find a character in wuwa that really clicks with me i'll like the game again

[formal jetty]

Big fact

[scenic condor]

changli kinda clicks

[formal jetty]

She is the one

[scenic condor]

i wont have the pullz

[formal jetty]

You know what must be done

[scenic condor]

no no no

NO

[formal jetty]

Yesyesyesyes

[scenic condor]

i'll wait for a husbando

to break out the wallet again

i spent too much during 1.0 anyway

but changli making me question my sexuality

[formal jetty]

Maybe rng will be kind

[scenic condor]

is too real

and it's not even the booba

it's that fake blush on her

[formal jetty]

I was prepared to swipe

For jinhsi

[scenic condor]

that makes her look like shes in heat all the time

and the voice

and the stylish combat

her attacks have WEIGHT

[formal jetty]

She is the whole package i know

Not many chars when i see the leaks im like shit

They are cooking hard and i cannot help but get served

Usually in gacha games i can easily hold off from pulling until i see a super meta unit

But some of the designs in this game i cant help myself

[open copper]

Drip marketing will drop any moment now

[scenic condor]

anybody knows how to get this fkin chest?

i lowered the water

but i cant get to it still

oh nvm

climb behind the waterfall and drop down

found it

[scenic condor]

oh yas

the grind paid off

[formal jetty]

Oooooooo

Congrats

[scenic condor]

okay i suck at piloting jinhsi

this is scara all over again

shes so damn vulnerable in the air

yuanwu might really be her best supp

cuz of that shield

[zealous grove]

He's just an E-bot in the team

[scenic condor]

his shield is pretty chonk tho

his concerto gen is ass

so

probably he goes on the heal set

and i need to get someone who pops concerto fast enough

and isnt verina

sanhua comes to mind but kek

outro useless

[zealous grove]

Anything more is dmg loss cause less time using Jinhsi

[scenic condor]

?

his ult has timestop

what dmg loss

it takes 0 seconds

[ionic quiver]

me who play jinhsi with yinlin

[scenic condor]

yinlin is stuck on electro side

so thats not an option right now

otherwise i'd play her with yinlin probably yea

[zealous grove]

He doesn't usually ult or intros in the team. He's just purely to generate stacks.

[scenic condor]

no?

kek

why wouldnt he ult

if he has it up

for a free shield

you have to swap to him anyway when u have to refresh his E

just use ult if it's up, doesnt take any extra time off the clock

[zealous grove]

I guess if enemies are still alive or the battle is long enough.

[scenic condor]

this is tower

[marble sapphire]

I forgot...did Genshin ults have time stop? I didn't think it had

[scenic condor]

obviously enemies will be alive

[scenic condor]

no it didnt

they are a major waste of time in this sense

thats why it's a con if the characters ult anim is long

sadly

but at least you can dodge big enemy moves with them if u need to

so thats the upside

and most ults do make up for the lost time with their effects

either way i think yuanwu is great for her. the defensive utility is very nice for her frail ass

along with the extra barbreak boost

but he deffo has to be on the healer set

that concerto gen is too ass for consistent heron

i need to think who has fast concerto gen with a not-totally-useless outro

cuz we only got one verina >.>

but other than sanhua nobody really comes to mind

so maybe thats the play

if shes not needed with encore

how fast is smc concerto gen, maybe that can work too now that we have s6

[zealous grove]

Not sure on other teams, but I think Verina is more important in Jinhsi teams atm.

[weak jay]

[zealous grove]

[marble sapphire]

...are you talking healer set or energy regen set 🙃

[manic rune]

yuanwu can heal ?

[zealous grove]

3* weapon, yes

[manic rune]

[marble sapphire]

bruh

[formal jetty]

O wow

The tech

[old summit]

https://youtu.be/5mHrWfHughQ?si=8bFFWDIk5h1Z-E2h

[manic rune]

full stack ult is just perfect

[formal jetty]

Higher the forte lesser the clothing

[ionic quiver]

i am trying to think whats changli reference

i think its phoenix

[marble sapphire]

no no she's clearly a chicken

[vapid prairie]

Ho-chan chicken

[open copper]

She is a Suzaku/Vermillion Bird.

One of the Four Auspicious Beings (they appear all the time in asian media). Suzaku is the Guardian of the South.

Jihnsi is the Azure Dragon, Guardian of the East.
Lingyang is the White Tiger of the West

The Black Tortoise of the North is lacking

[manic rune]

the dancing tortoise

[vapid prairie]

mfw when the 2 tortles ran once I got the echo equipped

[last nest]

Potentially spoiler for upcoming character. Could spoil the plot.

[vapid prairie]

||That's just the Fractsidus databank||

[open copper]

They did say at the end of 1.1, ||that the Fractsidus would rescue scar||

||I think he and Phrolova are coming in either 1.2-1.3||

[manic rune]

only time will tell

[ionic quiver]

yeha this make a bit sense

but making jinhsi as seiryu also wrong if we consider jue as kohryu 🤔

we got suzaku genbu and byakko

[marble sapphire]

I think it might be too early to assume there's the 4 beasts already

it's only 1.1

[manic rune]

theres still other cities in huanglong , i think?

[marble sapphire]

yes

[scenic condor]

SHES SO COOL OMG

changli is so much cooler than jinhsi

it's insane

[scenic condor]

this is wrong because you forgot about the 5th beast who represents the center and the element of earth

jiyan is the azure dragon

jinhsi is the representation of huanglong the golden dragon

as a gbf player this makes even more sense

tho the name spellings are different

the rest of the assumptions are probably correct

changli is zhuque, lingyang is baihu and we dun have xuanwu the black tortoise yet

since this is a cn thing originally i used the cn names

[young forge]

ff14 byakko is cooler

[scenic condor]

well...yea

wasting baihu on lingyang was certainly a choice

[young forge]

Snake in ff is fine

Changli is better birb

[scenic condor]

what snake

oo

theres no snake

[scenic condor]

lool

[young forge]

around 4 beasts there is trials in ff14

[scenic condor]

they turned qinglong into a snake?

tho it still has a dragon body

[young forge]

he named Seiryu there

idk

[scenic condor]

same thing

seiryu suzaku byakko genbu

[young forge]

yeah

genbu got shafted there too

[scenic condor]

are the same thing as qinglong zhuque baihu xuanwu

[young forge]

he instead of trial boss

dungeon boss

so difficulty lower

[scenic condor]

but interestingly enough

the jp version doesnt have huanglong at all

[young forge]

genbu

[scenic condor]

dont jp use the wuxing system too?

LOL

[young forge]

Suzaku

every other has mechanics, transformations and shit
byakko kicks full 8 man party high into the air and forces them to dodge bullet hell while they are falling down
and genbu just spins around the arena

[marble sapphire]

Qilin/Kirin in the future i guess

also, i would have thought the 4 beasts would be much more significant, so it seems "Huh" to have them all be in Jinzhou

[scenic condor]

not necessarily

qilin and huanglong are depicted as the same thing a lot times

gbf chose to make them separate tho

qilin doesnt really have a place

cause there are only 5 elements

if we take the wuxing system as the basis of this

so qilin/huanglong both represent earth/central

[marble sapphire]

back to doing quests/dailies to distract myself from recent hardships...

[ionic quiver]

@scenic condor yeah it make more sense to make jiyan as seiryuu

i forgot jiyan exist

[scenic condor]

mhm

his skills litearlly have qoolong in it

[ionic quiver]

i dont have him

[scenic condor]

which is kinda qinglong

[ionic quiver]

it would be cool if jinzhou is based from them tho

now let me yoink my friend SMT V

@vapid prairie imma broke tomorrow

i still need to farm for calcharo

[vapid prairie]

What's the fastest way to be broke now? I need to put in effort for the 400k spend on BP since echoes spending is reduced

[ionic quiver]

leveling weapon

and character level

and buy all character ascension mats in pharmacy shop

[vapid prairie]

I didn't meet the quota last week

[ionic quiver]

i find leveling weapon the most expensive

and level

idk the order but those 2 are the best credit sink

leveling skill is not that harsh

since i found out that this game use levle difference as damage output as well

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. Broke via echoes is nerfed. I didn't even do much tacet fields for the 50 tunes last week too

I get more Electro DMG bonuses than Fusion for Changli

[ionic quiver]

after u hit UL 50

u dont farm tacet i feel

like

UL 50 is so nice to actually build character

50-54 u can max everything

[vapid prairie]

How big is the base attack jump? Just wondering if 2.5k Jianxin is possible with Lv 80

[ionic quiver]

more like ur output

if ur enemy is red level, u deal leess

[vapid prairie]

Also. How gud is skill mat grind at UL50. The amount of golds you need scares me

[ionic quiver]

if ur enemy is yellow u deal decent

[ionic quiver]

its dogshit

the best one i feel like is the exp and credits

[vapid prairie]

It's wayy more than HSR purples

[ionic quiver]

for both weapon and characters

i havent tried tacet on UL 50

also UL 50 doesnt guarantee u gold

i spam like 20+ times

only seen 1 gold

also boss mats are nice

u cant get 2 iirc

so leveling from 70 to 12 need at least 4 times instead of 5

which actually save u 60 waveplate

also chance to get 4 iirc

[vapid prairie]

Well. You only need 26 at most for a character but man, 67 gold skill mats

Is the skill jump from 6 to 8?

[ionic quiver]

yes

but i dont think u need 8

like really tho

im still testing

but 7 is sweet rn

and very cheap

u can go 7 and go to other characters

7 to 8 waveplate is so wasteful

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. But I simp

[ionic quiver]

i also simp yinlin

[vapid prairie]

My goal is solo one tower with Jianxin

Maybe solo another with Changli if I get gud

[scenic condor]

oooh june revenue is out

wuwa carried by glb

cn seemingly abandoned it

understandably so

the irony of wuwa completely ignoring glb

with the trash localization

and cn region as starter zone

hope they treat glb better after this

[manic rune]

CN culture , not surprising

[vapid prairie]

Time for Aalto to carry in Black Shores in New Federation 🗣️

Abby and Encore 1v1 for cuteness

[manic rune]

encore wins ez

[young forge]

Encore nodiffs abby

tbh

[last nest]

Sensory tower?

[scenic condor]

yep

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dsq9ie/sensor_tower_monthly_revenue_report_june_2024/

[last nest]

That's android only no? They are known to be quite inaccurate

I remember one time they had genshin doing badly and than MHY put out a statment of them making morbilion dollars in that timeframe lol

[scenic condor]

no

it's mobile only

[last nest]

29 mil in June is still pretty good

At least maybe now they will start cartering to global audience over Chinease

[scenic condor]

29 is glb only

it's 45 total

[last nest]

Does global include Japan?

[scenic condor]

no

[last nest]

Well in any cause it's pretty good income

[scenic condor]

yea i think it's fine

but

in the long run

idk how long glb will sustain a gacha

they seemed to have kinda lost the cn market

where the big whels are

[last nest]

They will need to pivot into Jpn market imho

[scenic condor]

they need more husbandos for that

also i think glb does include jp for this cause i dont see a jp wuwa line

[last nest]

Tbh what they need is just jpn region. Inazuma was genshin at it's most profitable

[scenic condor]

and total revenue is 45m

29 glb 16m cn

[last nest]

So I won't be suprised if we are going to not Japan in year 2-3

[scenic condor]

that's more about timing

not about the it being jp

inazuma was the first new region

and the hype was still there

ppl werent this disillusioned then

plus booba sword

[last nest]

I am sure it wanking japan didn't hurt

[scenic condor]

i cant relate

inazuma is my least favorite region

[last nest]

obv. No husbandos

Other than Itto

[scenic condor]

not true

ayato

thoma

thoma is like my top 2

[last nest]

Who? I forgot he existed

[scenic condor]

inazuma was ass cause story was ass

explo was mega ass

[last nest]

Thoma was pretty good at least but he is only 4 star

Well tbh the profit to cost of development of genshin is very high

The game basicly sponsored HSR and ZZZ development cost

So I am sure Wuwa will be fine if the number stabilises around say 30 mil per month in all regions

[scenic condor]

the fk is love and deepspace

with 31m

ah otome game

.>

[last nest]

Another thing is that Wuwa barely runs on phones.

[scenic condor]

yeah

cn abandoning the game is fully justified

[last nest]

So I wouldn't be suprised to see PC income higher than usual

[scenic condor]

cuz cn mostly plays on phone

[last nest]

I thought it was India?

But well, honestly I don't care about the profits dick mesurment. As long as it's enough to keep game up and running it's good for me

[scenic condor]

is anybody cooking yuanwu?

@nocturne tinsel have you looked into yuanwu at all?

in terms of concerto gen

i get that the idea with jinhsi yuanwu verina is that yuanwu on heal set and verina on moonlit set

but i HATE SET SWAPPING

so im tryna come up with a way to make yuanwu moonlit set viable

yuanwu also providing multiple defensive utility stuff might be also handy

but idunno i might be overthinking this

[marble sapphire]

...what is this big brain rotation...and why does it work

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1drv5kn/yuanwu_is_easier_than_yinlin_on_jinshi_teams/

[zealous grove]

Simple, more field time for Jinhsi

[vapid prairie]

Seeing character on screen for more than 5 seconds?

[zealous grove]

Don't know what you mean exactly, but Yuanwu is on-field for, at max, about 1 sec which allows Jinhsi to do her rotations more.

[old summit]

it said mobile only

theres a chance CN whaled on PC

because of how poorly optimized mobile is

[scenic condor]

cn historically mostly plays gacha on mobile tho

but ye coulid be

we will never know

[open copper]

Apparently, the CN numbers for all games are flat-out made-up, sensortower doesn’t publish it

[scenic condor]

sensortower has cn numbers too

cn flag literally right there

[formal jetty]

With so much shit going on i wouldnt want to play this game on a phone lol

Top 3 revenue is very nice at least

Game is here to stay relevant for awhile

The quality is too high to flop lol cant believe many peeps expected this game to be dead on arrival

[scenic condor]

i dont think that was the general vibe tho

it was hyped up

which is why the launch failed harder than it should have

[formal jetty]

Just a loud minority

I thin

[scenic condor]

game is gonna be just fine

extremely casual

[formal jetty]

Not casual enough to be played on a phone tho

[scenic condor]

very cool characters

if genshin can be phoned

this can be too

wuwa combat is even easier

especially with post-launch units being brainded to play

with no swapcancels involved

yinlin is the exception here

[formal jetty]

Thats what i thought

But then again many ppl prefer to play it on pc

[scenic condor]

phone gaming is just so bad to me

for these type of games

i dont get how ppl can play it

you barely see shit

[formal jetty]

Yea theres a huge phone only audience

I think wuwa missed quite a huge chunk of it

[scenic condor]

alr i hit ul50

finally

[scenic condor]

yep

shit optimization

[formal jetty]

I got 50 and went to do a skill mat dungeon

The rewards are still ass

[scenic condor]

yeah

the rewards are ass

tacet field still costing 60

[formal jetty]

Ill be stuck doing this uninspiring stuff for awhile

[scenic condor]

is ridiculous

[formal jetty]

Since skill levels are too important to skip

[manic rune]

btw , ul 60 doesnt make it any better

xd

[scenic condor]

char levels are the most important

[formal jetty]

Yea

[scenic condor]

also all this doesnt matter

after i saw smc solo clearing to max stars

tower is too paper

[formal jetty]

Man i hope so

[scenic condor]

the middle tower is the only 'hard' one

[manic rune]

https://youtu.be/yROss8FW2xI?si=kuFlPkPmVSAoreUz

[scenic condor]

but only cuz of the lvl penalty

[manic rune]

the drops are

[formal jetty]

Yea

Its so bad to whale to get ahead

[scenic condor]

but where are you getting ahead

like

i dont get why would u whale for it

[formal jetty]

All i see is heavy diminishing return

[manic rune]

the only thing that actually got better was the boss drops

[scenic condor]

like if u whale to "get ahead" you essentially spend WAY more than tower can ever refund you for

how is that worth it?

[formal jetty]

Its self fulfillment ig some ppl love to max out their acc asap

[open copper]

Those numbers are flat-out made-up. (The Global numbers are correct, since sensortower actually publishers it.). Gachagames just slaps some arbitrary multiplier to a game. Sensortower doesn’t even publishes the chart, it’s organized by r/gachagaming, so they sometimes flat-out forget games

[manic rune]

they have the money , i dont think they care much

[scenic condor]

ooo okay

well i dont care much

it's fun to watch reddit pvp tho

[open copper]

Exclude the CN numbers and it’s accurate

[formal jetty]

It used to surprise me but it doesnt anymore when whales be dropping 30k-50k to clear out all content in the first week

[scenic condor]

thats pathetic af

[open copper]

They added CN numbers because Nikke beat HSR once, which caused a flame war

[formal jetty]

Its not its called elite gacha gaemer

You get invited into a p2w guild and get glazed everyday

I expect nikke to be top 3 revenue in july, ppl have been holding back for this summer event, horny will prevail

[scenic condor]

i kinda dislike moonlit verina

cuz i have to plunge from the air at the end of her combo

to cast heron

and it's just waste of time

and makes her so vulnerable

but yuanwu concerto gen isnt exactly good

despite the game claiming so

tho marcato could help with it

i still sense that the marcato moonlit build is good

esp with s4 for the fat shield

[scenic condor]

= fake

nice

[frigid gyro]

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]h'l

]uj'g

[formal jetty]

Hi cat

[scenic condor]

honestly

jinhsi doesnt even necessarily need her intro

the startup sequence is pretty fast on its own

[candid loom]

But if you minmaxed from the getgo, you shouldn’t be that close to the time limit

So its still redundant af

[candid loom]

Until it gets to the level of the jenshit drama

Then its just cringe

[last nest]

People with brains didn't but reddit was convinced it was going to EOS before 1st anny lol

[scenic condor]

the fuck is this

mephis is bugged or my game is bugged

something got stuck there after a parry

and his shadow is just autoparried forever

and it doesnt stop

just clang clang clang

anyway moonlit verina feels TERRIBLE to play

there has to be another way

her ult cd is too long anyway

[last nest]

The sensory tower was entirely predictable(obv HSR with omega hyped Firefly was going to outsell other gachas heavily)

[scenic condor]

hsr somehow outsells everytime

[last nest]

I guess Genshin did worse than expected? But all their new chars were pretty meh and had little story impact

[scenic condor]

genshin is in dry phase

so understandable

[young summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/Bittexu/status/1807430160464929161?t=yNG-gbgmZ8j3Q_roqozS6w&s=19

[scenic condor]

jinhsi really needs another coord support who actually has decent concerto

[last nest]

Combination of good story that properly hypes chars and a lot of meta pulling

[scenic condor]

i cant fathom

hsr gameplay is so ass

[last nest]

I've heard rumours about healer support in 1.2

[scenic condor]

the fact that it makes this much is beyond me

[scenic condor]

if it's fast concerto then pog

if it's baizhi 2.0 then die

[last nest]

5 star prob better than Baizhi

[scenic condor]

just be good concerto gen thats all im asking for

[last nest]

Thing is, all other turn based gachas look and play like ass

FGO or GBF would easily murder it mechanically if they weren't billion years old

[scenic condor]

turn based gacha with 1 skill 1 ult

99% of the playerbase doesnt even play the game

just reads story

and collects waifu

hoyo getting away with shit all the time is so tiring

and they set the industry standard to be this

gaming is just dead as a whole with a few gems around

that still care for players

[last nest]

Not their fault that they were literaly no competition to genshin for 4 years or that Hsr best compettiton is 9 years old

[scenic condor]

genshin will never have competition

kek

it's delusional to think so

[last nest]

I do think ZZZ is going to be in more risky territory with bunch of upcoming AAA gachas looking to get into market

[scenic condor]

im sure zzz will do great just by being a hoyo game

[last nest]

Genshin probably will just end in 4-5 years anyway

[scenic condor]

and hoyo owning gacha gaming

[scenic condor]

eos?

doubt

it will chrun money forever

[last nest]

No. 3 regions+Abyss region+Flower field shit

We knew all the acts from the begning

[scenic condor]

thats just the acts for this arc

after we are done they make up a new one

[young forge]

they will go hi3 route

[scenic condor]

most ppl dont event read the story

[young forge]

and do new shit

[last nest]

Sure they can do Genshin 2 but it will prob have to be a wipe H3 2.0 style

New protag, new cast new story etct

And with how old genshin already looks I think they will rather make a new game on new engine

[open copper]

I think the producers actually said there will be a Genshin 2.

Frankly, it’s for the best. Anything after a Celestia chapter would be weird/wouldn’t work, story-wise.

[scenic condor]

@nocturne tinsel save me pls

[nocturne tinsel]

if you run yuanwu you just never use his concerto

[scenic condor]

yeye i figured

but i wanna escape moonlit verina

[nocturne tinsel]

swap in set the coord swap out

[scenic condor]

cause it feels awful to use

so gimme another option for the 3rd slot

[nocturne tinsel]

do you have a high refine discord?

[scenic condor]

no

[nocturne tinsel]

I've been seeing people talk about taoqi being decent at r3

[scenic condor]

yea not an option for me

sadly

sanhua i guess is the only choice

fast concerto, fast heron

and s6 atk buff is better than nothing

[nocturne tinsel]

don't use sanhua

[scenic condor]

why not oo

i have nothing better

[nocturne tinsel]

because she doesn't add anything meaningful to the team

[scenic condor]

she gens concerto fast

procs heron fast

thats all i need from her

we dont have supports

we have nothing

and verina cant be on every team

[nocturne tinsel]

at that point SMC would be better

[scenic condor]

smc is busy

being hmc

[nocturne tinsel]

(assuming you have s6)

[scenic condor]

i do

i tried his concerto rota

it's also kinda slow

or im just skill issued

[nocturne tinsel]

you could run taoqi without a r3 discord

[scenic condor]

he does sound good on paper

taoqi concerto PLEASE

that would take ages

at that point i just go do ba4 with jinhsi

without intro

[last nest]

Can you run Mortefi+Jinhsi+Verina?

[scenic condor]

mortefi busy

[nocturne tinsel]

yeah you basically have to swap to taoqi at every possible second withing jinhshi combo

[scenic condor]

jiyan+mortefi
hmc+yinlin
jinshi+yuanwu

are the 3 teams rn cuz encore is too low level and i dont have the funds to get her ready for this tower

i guess i could try to do cal yinlin instead and free up hmc to be smc for jinhsi

[nocturne tinsel]

without discord r3 you need to swap cancel farm taoqi every other rotation

[last nest]

Why not put Sunhau on Hmc team and use Yinlin for yinhsi?

[scenic condor]

think about it

electro tower

thats why

😄

[last nest]

Ohh, I didn't check the tower yet

[scenic condor]

electro/spectro

[last nest]

Always slacking till the last day

[scenic condor]

and skill/ult boost in the middle

with monke and mephis

so for middle my plan is jiyan for mephis, jinhsi for monke

and jiyan does spectro tower 2-3, jinhsi does 1-4

[nocturne tinsel]

I'm waiting till I hit UL 45 and level the 5* pistols for tower

[scenic condor]

while hmc yinlin does electro tower

but i can free up mc with cal even if it's pain

im sure he can still clear with 2dm rota

[last nest]

I can't deal with middle atm. Will be skiping

[scenic condor]

middle is doable when u get to ul50

with a lv80 dps

[last nest]

I think I will also have to skip Changli for Zhi

[scenic condor]

yea changli is big skip

[last nest]

If she is indeed the healer

[scenic condor]

even tho my wallet will propbably go for her

cuz shes so fun to play

[last nest]

Why did they make her so hot tho

[scenic condor]

but metawise changli is not needed at all

unless ur atilla with chixia fetish

[scenic condor]

to sell her. duh

if u cant sell with meta, sell with booba

[last nest]

Good chance will get both on first anni

Or maybe PGr cross over

That would be hyped

[young forge]

who the fuck is Zhi

[scenic condor]

1.2 bitch

[young forge]

who?

[scenic condor]

upcoming character

next patch

[young forge]

i mean pic/kit?

[scenic condor]

nothing

[young forge]

if im not rolling changli i might as well quit now

[scenic condor]

just leakers grasping at straws

[young forge]

[open copper]

We do have their … Sound effects.

[scenic condor]

but beta soon

[open copper]

So that’s something

[scenic condor]

so

we will know

tomorrow

[nocturne tinsel]

1.2 beta is soon

the closed beta for our open beta game

[open copper]

Glacio Gun.
Lingyang Tower soon

[last nest]

I've heard she was a healer from unrealible sources

[nocturne tinsel]

gun unit?
Potenitally better chixia/morty weapon?

[open copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1dqrd9k/xiangli_yao_sfxs/

[scenic condor]

glacio gun huh

[open copper]

Certainly sounds like it

[scenic condor]

is that wanshi expy i smell

[last nest]

Seems more like Lee to me

[scenic condor]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-wanshi-wanshi-wanshi-lucid-dream-gif-15909083195423308825

still so long to wait for this beautiful boy

[last nest]

Changli being easy skip from meta perspective makes me feel a lot better about getting sig for Jinhsi

[nocturne tinsel]

I think changli is going to age better than jinhsi

[young forge]

gun with mechanical arm

[scenic condor]

doesnt matter

we dont have supports

so pushing out more dps is not gonna age well either way

[nocturne tinsel]

changli is the support

[scenic condor]

shes slow

[last nest]

For specifically Chixia

[scenic condor]

you said yourself shes not gonna have short field time

[open copper]

Since I already posted Xiao-lee, might as well post Zhezhi

https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1dq9qro/zhezhi_sfxs/?sort=confidence

[scenic condor]

so shes not even good for encore

rolling her JUST for chixia

[nocturne tinsel]

she has comparable field time to danjin

[scenic condor]

shes not a significant enough upgrade

over sanhua

so most ppl cant afford minor upgrades like this

[nocturne tinsel]

she's going to age better bc any fusion DPS that power creeps her turns her into a stellar support

[open copper]

Changli might be good with Scar in the future. Might.

[scenic condor]

when we dont have more verina-like supports

[scenic condor]

thats true

but we dont have the pulllssss

[nocturne tinsel]

meanwhile jinhshi only brings damage to the table

she has 0 role versatility

[last nest]

I need to kick out Baizhi from my second team. That takes priority over another dps/sub dps

[nocturne tinsel]

so once she's no longer the best

shes no longer used

[last nest]

Idk what were they thinking making Baizhi so bad at concerto generation

[scenic condor]

they were thinking: go roll our new supports pls

[nocturne tinsel]

baizhi has acceptable concerto gen
but you need variation and enough ER to always ult with her terrible energy gen

[scenic condor]

then they forgot to put supports

[last nest]

That's why I think support is coming in 1.2

[scenic condor]

this is not true

[last nest]

It's perfect time to make people pay up after spending on waifus in previous patch

[scenic condor]

game ceiling is too low for this kinda thinking

jinhsi is smooth to use

doesnt ask for much from supports

makes her team very f2pable

and her damage IS great and will hold up

even if we get better spectro dps

[last nest]

Also it might be more than a year before we get another spectro dps

[nocturne tinsel]

once everyone has hit UL 60/70 we're gonna start getting harder TOA content

[scenic condor]

that wont make jinhsi's damage less

[last nest]

So Jinhsi will have her nieche in the mean time

[scenic condor]

it's like....i still clear abyss with fkin diluc

[nocturne tinsel]

she also doesn't benefit much from supports and demands your other 2 units fit within a 5s window

she is more or less this games jingyuan and will have a similar lifecycle

[scenic condor]

so u think they gonna go hsr powercreep?

[nocturne tinsel]

she demands a ton from her supports without receiving much in return
but she has ridiculously high MVs

[scenic condor]

over genshin sidegrade shit?

[nocturne tinsel]

causing personal DPS to be high, but team DPS to fall off

[scenic condor]

so

shes a genshin character

also wdym demands a ton

she wants coord

and fast concerto

but not necessarily from the same unit

[nocturne tinsel]

she wants coord
she demands outro
she demands 5s combined for other 2 chars in a rotation fast enough that variation/discord won't be off CD

[open copper]

If they keep releasing 2 units per patch, Powercreep will happen very quickly.

[nocturne tinsel]

I don't think they'll go as hard on powercreep as HSR, but they don't have the tools to keep creep anywhere near as low as genshin

[scenic condor]

whats with the 5s

i dont get this part

ye sure thats the MOST optimal thing

but who cares?

this isnt calcharo

you will still clear even if it's not perfect

you say this like she will ONLY clear if the rotation is fully optimized

and theres no time lost anywhere

[nocturne tinsel]

because her DPS is such a large part of her teams DPS (often sitting at 80%+) you need to have her return to hit her E as soon as it falls off cooldown

[scenic condor]

this is overthinkign it

tower isnt hard enough for this

i get that this is optimal

[nocturne tinsel]

it's not hard enough yet

[scenic condor]

dont think it will be

genshin never became hard enough

[nocturne tinsel]

we're not getting hard tower until everyone hits 60

reminder that early genshin floor 12 was fatui agents

and is about as difficult as current floor 10

[scenic condor]

reminder that we still clear using 1.0 units

saying that jinhsi wont clear

is bullshit im sorry

i dont see a scenario where they make a non-standard unit that obsolete

yes she wont be the BEST spectro dps

but she will certainly clear

just like how diluc still clears

[last nest]

Surely they won't make Chixia obsolete

Next patch

With new gun dps

[scenic condor]

if it's not the same ele i dont see a clash

[last nest]

Fire lee incoming

[scenic condor]

dont

the wound is too fresh

kuro really does hate lee

[last nest]

I warned you about Nanamicident.

[scenic condor]

but nana alrdy gets a new frame

lee gets nothing

skipped for leap

meanwhile fkin cw gets leaped

and balter gets leaped

but noooo lets kill lee

i still hold out

that he gets burn affix leap

which will put him back on the map

cuz lucia is ion

so we will still need a burn dps

and lee leap could be that

[last nest]

Well it's clearly they have some problem with fire team performance

I am just suprised it wasn't Liv they powercrept

Trully Kuro favourite

[scenic condor]

cant wait for empys clunk ass to be crept

fishing for matrix on her so annoying

cuz if the mob decides to just not move at all i cant get my matrix and there goes my rota

dunno what her leap does tho. maybe that fixed this

[last nest]

But I do wish Lucia was fire tank instead of watanabe. So we could play all gray raven squad for the first time

[scenic condor]

yeah would have been a cool idea

they should have given lucia instead of epi

originally

and put wata elsewhere

but oh well

it is what it is

but maybe JUST MAYBE they could have made lucia lightning tank

cuz garnet is elder abuse atp

and leap lee instead of cw

so fire team is up to speed

and lightning doesnt suffer from dragging a gen 1 tank for years

[open copper]

Chixia won’t be obsolete by Xiangli. ||She will be obsoleted by Scar, lol.||

[nocturne tinsel]

xiangling?

[scenic condor]

anyway

atilla

u say smc could be fast enough?

6days tho

[nocturne tinsel]

6 days until what?

[scenic condor]

i wont have enough time to get cal up to speed

reset

[nocturne tinsel]

ah

smc could be fast enough yeah

[scenic condor]

maybe i ignore middle tower for now

[last nest]

But she is hot

[scenic condor]

then get her a new frame

vera is hot with any frame

hmm okay then i could do
cal yinlin verina for electro tower
jiyan mortefi yy for spectro 2-3 and middle 1
jinhsi yuanwu smc for spectro 1-4 and middle 2

and baizhi can go die

maybe in the future when i get enough mats to get 2x energy 3cost for baizhi she'll be gud

tho her ult cd being 25s is still gonna fk her over

if thats what keeps her concerto gen from being ass

[scenic condor]

the targetting in this game

is pissing me the fuck off

yea right side tower is a cakewalk with jinhsi

the left side tho

....

kind of a disaster

jiyan cant clear on time

[scenic condor]

but he cleared faster still than yinlin hmc

hmm

maybe i rolled yinlin for nothing

[nocturne tinsel]

assuming you're not on trackpad, you can press the middle button on your mouse to cycle lock on

[scenic condor]

i shouldnt need to press anything

just attack what im facing

how is this that hard

i feel like im playing tab targeting mmo

anyway moonlit verina worked fine

so

ig jinhsi team is solved

only need her for last floor anyway

left side is a bigger hassle

cuz hmc yinlin is not enough

i wish it was just the aix

the stupid 3 idiots spaced out is annoying af

[scenic condor]

but i think if i level mortefi stuff a bit i got this

i was barely off now

[nocturne tinsel]

I just keep pulling them

[formal jetty]

Apparently revenues were frozen on IOS/android for the first 15 days of June so the numbers are not very accurate

[scenic condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDNZ-s35g9g

i just suck at this game

lol