are you crazy
#Wuthering Waves
scenic condor
scenic condor
It doesn’t take THAT long
it does take that long
candid loom
Plus Jianxin has the best succ in the game
scenic condor
yeah
quasi moth
Until I have her companion mission done
scenic condor
and one of the worst concerto speed in the game
quasi moth
Nothing
candid loom
scenic condor
good luck making a quickswap team with that
candid loom
It doesn’t have to quickswap 
scenic condor
It doesn’t have to quickswap <:kleekicant:1009443853020971049>
IT IS CAL
he has to quickswap
would you rather be stuck in a 2s animation
with no way to move
quasi moth
Also, help me out here
scenic condor
out of harms way
candid loom
Jianxin just there for ult and interrupt resist 
young forge
Also, help me out here
there is caves
candid loom
No?
young forge
under this rock
quasi moth
I see
candid loom
@scenic condor
quasi moth
Ty
young forge
you get there from the side or from mining zone
candid loom
Shouldn’t have rerolled kek
candid loom
Maybe we’re cooking
candid loom
Uh atk I think
scenic condor
ugh
so you have stack jx with atk and er
put her on the healer gauntlet
and the healer set
and then it could maybe work?
but idk how meaty that shield is
it has to last thru 3dms
thats
2x n5
maybe it could work
candid loom
Her shield also heals yeah
scenic condor
heal idc about
candid loom
Well
scenic condor
i need the interrupt res
scenic condor
it's atk
steep blaze
young forge
its atk
steep blaze
Im at 50 wp banner
young forge
if its not specified
steep blaze
scenic condor
formal jetty
Its a good thing i dont play star rail
I just saw this firefly character in a plugsuit
young forge
but did you saw her IN KAMEN SUIT?
formal jetty
Uh
formal jetty
Oh her normal form is aight
young forge
thats her
formal jetty
Not as dangerous as i thought
scenic condor
honestly even if we solve the interrupt resist problem with cal, the main issue is that the combo with yinlin doesnt feel good anymore as she lost the e1 e2 between cal swaps so she just..doesnt have much to do. she now has to do both e1 e2 during that time and there's not tnough time or you drop your cal rota. i think overall yinlin is probably still cal's best supp but imo yinlin is better off with hmc or encore for now
@candid loom
cal is just not consistent
especially vs mobs
candid loom
if its not specified
No it straight up error messaged
No values at all
But Ariel got them
scenic condor
good old prydwen
candid loom
honestly even if we solve the interrupt resist problem with cal, the main issue ...
I see
RIP Yinlin ig
kek
That shield seems pretty chonky on paper tho
If u level it up the flat amount goes up by ~300 each time
For the largest
This is lvl 1
formal jetty
https://tenor.com/view/sam-hsr-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-sam-stellaron-hunter-f...
I bet shes op op so from a meta standpoint u should pull
young forge
She’s actually not super op
he just clears local endgame with no gear
candid loom
Ppl were doomposting her to get buffs lol
young forge
that moment when HMC so broken FF does 200k per hit with no artifacts
on break and broken
candid loom
No gear means nothing if the supports are cracked lol
young forge
she is good
candid loom
Most of the dmg is hmc anyway
young forge
but she is easily nerfable
candid loom
young forge
by units that can loose toughness
young forge
I bet shes op op so from a meta standpoint u should pull
She is one of 2 main "wifus" hoyo put on in this year
so you can guess
young forge
Hide their toughness bar u mean?
yeah
formal jetty
Its honkai star rail
young forge
yeap
young forge
vapid prairie
Anyone who played her character trial might get the first impression that her shield is shockingly low. It isn't
young forge
She is driver for the real op character
she now has own superbreak
but funnily enough
both stack
@formal jetty she pilots robot
i like robot
friend tried to bait me to Nikke with anniv robot character
he almost succeeded
her gameplay
|| https://youtu.be/uwO9x9vgvec ||
quasi moth
Update: I’ve found the cave, I think
vapid prairie
Oh. And that's without this
quasi moth
Okay nvm, I’m lost again
vapid prairie
Okay nvm, I’m lost again
Watcha looking for?
vapid prairie
Oh. And that's *without* this
Pulled up the game to show how much I get
shy lotus
quasi moth
one is next to hologram
oh
quasi moth
Watcha looking for?
the one that gives the ice pieces
vapid prairie
Oh. You go to the centre of the tower then go down
vapid prairie
quasi moth
OHHH YOU FOLLOW THE BLUE LINE
young forge
thats other way in ye
steep blaze
Man
steep blaze
Lingyuang feel even worse than yq
young forge
entrance to same caves is on the side of Maw
vapid prairie
Trust me. I hate this area too. This is the area where I grab Jianxin flowers
young forge
Trust me. I hate this area too. This is the area where I grab Jianxin flowers
i jsut buy them from shop in city
formal jetty
<@263846797624082432> she pilots robot
i like robot
friend tried to bait me to N...
Missed opportunity
vapid prairie
There's a limit
young forge
krill issue
quasi moth
Yay….
steep blaze
Ling
quasi moth
Missed opportunity
She had a whole segment with the mc which was kinda rushed and forced
steep blaze
2 ice 
steep blaze
I think that glacio thing is one of the hard to dodge boss
quasi moth
2 ice <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
Don’t worry about it, I’ll be fucking up some shit later and looking through my shit
vapid prairie
I think that glacio thing is one of the hard to dodge boss
Mourning Aix is worse
Hard to dodge? Nah. But he'll rob your ability to
steep blaze
Aix beam is just tempest easier to dodge version
formal jetty
The open world ones u can kill with relative ease
steep blaze
I fought heron once so idk
vapid prairie
Oh. I'm speaking purely on hologram. Otherwise Aix is easy
formal jetty
Holo difficulty is in this order for me: tempest memphis > aix > monke > heron
steep blaze
Wao so much
I only did raider exploration quest b4
Like 2 exploration+jiyuan quest left
vapid prairie
Time to sleep. Hope the Tower in a few hours doesn't reset to Glacio Spectro or something
steep blaze
formal jetty
Glacio tower would be straight hilarity
vapid prairie
Glacio tower would be straight hilarity
Glacio + Basic ATK buff
formal jetty
It would be time for linyang shineee
quasi moth
I didnt realise I could just farm lower rarity echos
and then
just fuse it together to farm data bank exp
scenic condor
how do I know it's a shiny btw?
it says phantom on it
lol
if u mean the phantom skins
quasi moth
oh
scenic condor
but why do u want them
tho now they are bugfixed
which means phantom heron is the same as normal finally
and thundering mephis is back to being useless
quasi moth
I don't want them, I just wanna know the distinction
so I dont accidentally fuse them
I'm tryna turbo farm to level 15
scenic condor
wait ur not even db 15?
then u wont get any shiny anyway
theres no 5* drop before db15
candid loom
theres no 5* drop before db15
Not true
The glowing enemies can drop 5*
Pre-15
Thats how I got one before 15
scenic condor
okay
scenic condor
thats dodge practice
quasi moth
dodging without sound is weird
I still gotta practice parry
imma try it again still
oop nvm
found the verina awakening materials
young forge
So many enemies do that now
HSR just leaked supposed Nuwa Expy kit
and her ult makes enemies considered weakness broken for the sake of calculating damage
so scratch taht
rough token
Last night coop with a friend made me realize something
Chixia damage is nuts holy shit, shredded Spearback King with zero effort
And i didn't even max out the echoes yet
candid loom
HSR just leaked supposed Nuwa Expy kit
and her ult makes enemies considered weak...
Lmfao
Welp gg
Whats the point of mechanics if ur just gonna print chars to ignore them
young forge
Lmfao
nvm
leak us sus af
but yes
HSR powercreep is real
they kicked it of when DHIL was head above rest
and then when JL was weaker then him and on Blade level of damage they gave her that buffs last week with free crit
then Ruan Mie and Acheron happened
candid loom
Wuwa power creep
formal jetty
quasi moth
Just gotta hit level 27 (just a bit more exp for that) and then I can start doing hologram shit
rough token
Ah yes
The coop ritual
quasi moth
They attack you
I just wanted to dance with them but they didn’t like me in turtle form
scenic condor
Whats the point of mechanics if ur just gonna print chars to ignore them
sooner or later u run out of stat powercreep so u gotta start powercreeping by straight up ignoring mechanics and THEN after everybody fell for it u gonna make bosses immune to the ignore mechanic and then u can just make up new hurdles and release a char to go thru that. so on and so forth. hsr is a doomed shitshow of powercreep and it's never gunna end
and by doomed i mean for ppl who care for meta and wanna keep up but dont wanna spend
it's obviously very successful by employing this strategy
scenic condor
and then when JL was weaker then him and on Blade level of damage they gave her ...
is JL ded yet?
scenic condor
lol so
wuwa expects us to keep up with sigs with this income?
hahahaha
yea this is gonna just end up being worse than genshin
young forge
Yes
And 80000 points pf
And i do max moc with me not doing reruns
In one go
For now
open copper
Didn’t GBF go something like:
Buff Powercreep > Bosses Spam Dispel > Undispellable Buffs > Dispels for Undispellable Buffs?
I remember it was something quite ridiculous
young forge
wuwa expects us to keep up with sigs with this income?
It expects you to whale as any gacha
rough token
Well shit
Looks like i won't regret raising her for my 2nd party main dps
No switch, no using the true damage mechanics
And killed the guy in 4 and half minutes
vapid prairie
Quickswap players when the passive is staying on your character for 14 seconds
nocturne tinsel
formal jetty
<@263846797624082432> you can hope youll get Changli
Is that Hopium i see
Lemme at it
formal jetty
Quickswap players when the passive is staying on your character for 14 seconds
I suppose
scenic condor
you have zero reason to roll sig weps in genshin
scenic condor
cuz theres just no content for it and there are great 4* options
formal jetty
To be the main way to play
young forge
I see zero reason here too
formal jetty
F for sweats
rough token
I see zero reason here too as well
Unless you wanna go overboard in challenges and shit
scenic condor
the 4* weps kinda suck tho
young forge
Just get better quality arts
scenic condor
barely any quality selection
rough token
There's just less options for now
formal jetty
When you love a char you want to get their sig weapon too, it just feels right
scenic condor
wheres muh favge
rough token
I mean the craftable ones are pretty good i'd say
Like that energy regen gauntlet
scenic condor
maybe i am just dooming cause i have so many gripes with the gearing in wuwa
the lack of cv
inherently
from chars
the nerfed crit main stats
so i automatically gravitate towards sigs
cuz 4* have shit crit stats too
but ig just gotta secure strong statsticks of each wep type
and move on
and then it will be like genshin
since so far i dont really see content in wuwa either that would require minmax that hard
tower seems pretty easy
holo bosses are one time things
and thats it
formal jetty
Yea
They are nerfing quickswapping u can already kinda tell
They dont want their game to b too minmx
They just want you to whale for s6 for op dps, gameplay can be less optimal
nocturne tinsel
To be the main way to play
*to be the only way to play
formal jetty
I dont doubt
nocturne tinsel
quickswapping was so far ahead of everything else that it was the only reasonable thing to do
rough token
Ok hear me out
Chixia 0 crit rate echo, but full crit dmg
formal jetty
Ppl who wanna flex their skills will play quickswapping anyways
Cuz it just looks cooler
And smoother
rough token
Ok hear me out
Chixia 0 crit rate echo, but full crit dmg
Since RC1 gives her guarantee crit on reso skill
Time to do that shit
nocturne tinsel
Since RC1 gives her guarantee crit on reso skill
not on reso skill
only on boom boom
vapid prairie
cuz 4* have shit crit stats too
Shit crit stats relative to Genshin tho
scenic condor
Shit crit stats relative to Genshin tho
shit crit stats relative to math
like
what are you arguing here?
vapid prairie
what are you arguing here?
If the optimal crit ratio of 1:2 is less achievable in this game due to the values being lower relative to Genshin, then maybe don't mald too much about trying to get it? Just don't understand the compulsion of getting it perfect
scenic condor
because we are not the same
we aim for different things
since the ONLY thing we can actually do in these games is grind echos
if i dont care for optimal cv
then what am i grinding for?
my sense of progression will be lost
because that tower is gonna be real easy to bruteforce soon
with nothing else in sight that would be any challenging - and them potentially dumbing down the combat from swaps to just...jiyan - all i have left to FEEL something is stat grind
so im just playing genshin again
but with a reskin
and cooler combat that may or may not reward me for playing better than others
i understand im probably the minority here but it still bothers me. if it's targeted towards casuals who dont care anyway then why make an effort to make it worse for the ppl who do care?
makes no sense to me
vapid prairie
i understand im probably the minority here but it still bothers me. if it's targ...
How is the game making it worse for people who care?
scenic condor
making optimal cv ratio too hard to achieve
nerfing characters who heavily rely on swapcancel for no goddamn reason
mainly thinking of cal here
if the standard of character gameplay what i can look forward to is jiyan then wuwa will not be any better than genshin
for me
vapid prairie
Nerfing the meta makes it worse for people? Fair, we should return to Calcharo plunge meta.
nocturne tinsel
optimal crit ratio doesn't really matter
same number of subs but 20% off in genshin was <1 sub difference
and with the lower crit subs over the course of an arti here, and the lack of overwhelming atk% buffs the difference will be even smaller
@scenic condor quickswap is still the best way to play
these nerfs simply bring it to just that
before, quickswap was the only way to play
vapid prairie
@nocturne tinsel Question about calculations. Is substats like Resonance Skill DMG bonus applied similarly to Elemental DMG? Just wondering if I can prioritise it over ATK if I see diminishing returns.
scenic condor
Nerfing the meta makes it worse for people? Fair, we should return to Calcharo p...
?
wdym calcharo plunge meta
they nerfed something that was only meta on paper. in reality i'd wager less than 5% of the playerbase could actually pull it off consistently
why even nerf something that barely anybody does
yes this takes away the reward from those people who were actually able to do this
if they would have compensated for the nerf elsewhere like put his ult duration to 15s then i'd be fine with it. they made calcharo less of a powerhouse in return they give him some breathing room and make him more accessible to players
scenic condor
optimal crit ratio doesn't really matter
same number of subs but 20% off in gens...
oh?
okay
then ig i wont worry about it as much
just having less overall crit bothered me
scenic condor
<@155066250534453249> quickswap is still the best way to play
these nerfs simply...
quickswap is still the only way to play calcharo but now the reward isnt there
but yes in the end none of this matters cause tower will be easy so why even optimize
and then i end up at the same spot where all this began. we are genshin without proper endgame where all i can do is grind stats for nothing
but all this just means that i misjudged what wuwa will be about
it doesnt mean wuwa is a bad game
didnt mean to suggest that
im just sad thats all
but pgr is always there so ig thats my silver lining
vapid prairie
wdym calcharo plunge meta
Idk. I remember people getting salty when 1.0 datamine showed that Mid-air damage got nerfed. Dunno how important that was in CBT2
vapid prairie
Cal had like 320% for his Aerith stab
scenic condor
it's mainly his synergy with yinlin (due to yinlin outro and skill nerf)
which i have issue with
but im going to let this go
and cal can just be someone i look at for his hair and reminisce about the perfection that their rotation used to be
and i'll just find some joy elsewhere
appreciate the cool graphics
and the char designs
scenic condor
Gacha is meant to be casual friend
this is something genshin gaslit us into
formal jetty
I mean
Sweating in gacha leads to bad endings
The system is not in our favor
To e competitive its gonna cost a lot
scenic condor
i only refer to mechanical sweat
not whale
and i didnt want scoring
or pvp elements
formal jetty
I cant take gacha game seriously when whaling solves all ur issues
Id rather we play an actual skillbased game
vapid prairie
Where someone spending 2k+ on this game's Diluc 
formal jetty
This game is simply a waifu/husbando collector
The interesting combat will keep the gameplay loop fresh for longer
Dont let ppl intimidate you into thinking this game is a sweat grindfest
Its not
It seems to be
But its really not
scenic condor
i agree
formal jetty
Important mats are timegated/moneygated as per usual
scenic condor
i was blinded by the illusion
formal jetty
PGR is a special case
scenic condor
but in fact this really is just genshin
scenic condor
formal jetty
This is the formula that sells
scenic condor
the world is truly bleak
vapid prairie
Important mats are timegated/moneygated as per usual
Building Yinlin and Calcharo team when Electro 3 costs have the lowest amount in the overworld vs every other set
vapid prairie
I actually got 43311 for both
formal jetty
And yes im gonna live with whatever tuning i get
Unless its like
DEF DEF% HP HP%
Which is impossible i think
vapid prairie
Don't worry. It all comes back to skill mat mald when you realise how much you need when reaching UL40
And there's 4 levels of skill mats unlike Genshin or HSR
formal jetty
😓
scenic condor
I actually got 43311 for both
me too
i realized
calcharo situation just feels like cyno all over again
something that could have been easily fixed
but they decided fuck you
ionic quiver
increase his aspd instead
formal jetty
Lets not go overboard
ionic quiver
formal jetty
Understandable, a free char is not supposed to outdps gigachad limited Jiyan
The propaganda has been unreal
Skip jiyannnnn
So obv they gonna do somethinga bout it
compact wigeon
Does this game have multiplayer
sand zinc
There's Co-op
scenic condor
Understandable, a free char is not supposed to outdps gigachad limited Jiyan
i'll repeat this for the last fking time cause i swear yall dont get it. he only outdpsed jiyan WITH yinlin, his old numbers AND his frame perfect rotation.
- the rota is too hard for most ppl to pull off so him being better on paper doesnt fkin matter cuz jiyan is so mindless to play anyway nobody will notice that cal is stronger
- if they just only nerfed him OR yinlin that would have been more than enough but doin both was just cruel
scenic condor
it's not at all obvious to me why they felt it was necessary to nerf something most ppl couldnt even achieve
formal jetty
Clearly they dont want that mechanic to be prevalent
scenic condor
Only quicksawpping is nerfed, not the char itself
the char IS about quickswapping
formal jetty
Without it u can argue cal is garbage and sure i will give it to you
split violet
is it bad that i got 4/5 of the standard 5 str character?
scenic condor
without quickswap calcharo is worse than lingyang
scenic condor
and im not saying hes garbage
but his unique playstyle is no longer rewarded, thats all
vapid prairie
is it bad that i got 4/5 of the standard 5 str character?
Nah. I have the same here. Dodging Lingyang so far
formal jetty
My point is that the cal being this good with quickswap hurt jiyans sales
split violet
Nah. I have the same here. Dodging Lingyang so far
and i lost 50/50 to lingyang 
formal jetty
Its not about whether or not its actually true
scenic condor
since the game is geared towards casuals the casuals will go for the ez mash op shit anyway
vapid prairie
and i lost 50/50 to lingyang <:batbrain:923021946852114452>
Wait. So who is your missing 5*?
scenic condor
also 99% of the casuals dont read sheets or know about math
so they didnt even know that cal was better on paper than jiyan
formal jetty
Its more about the information being widely spread to the masses
And u know nobody will bother to factcheck
They take it as truth
split violet
Wait. So who is your missing 5*?
only calcharo
ionic quiver
so they didnt even know that cal was better on paper than jiyan
99.5% gonna add the 0.5% there
split violet
tho it's sucks that i can't play this game with good experience because of crashes
ionic quiver
only crash once
thats because i open mozilla for interactive maps
chrome for music
wuterhing waves
and HSR for auto
formal jetty
I know i aint downloading this game on my old iphone
ionic quiver
formal jetty
Cuz its gonna crash for sure
split violet
Old device?
well im using an IPAD
formal jetty
If its too old, might run into the same issue
formal jetty
Optimization is not the same
This game is most likely not as optimized as the others
It might get better with time
split violet
even with the lowest setting it keeps crashing on my ipad
formal jetty
Yea thats the telltale sign
vapid prairie
I can run this game but can't run ToF at all
split violet
I can run this game but can't run ToF at all <:batbrain:923021946852114452>
i remember tryin ToF using the same device it didn't crash
vapid prairie
formal jetty
Cursed
burnt mortar
goated
zealous grove
Like coop exploration
From experience and what I read, you go to a player's world and explore together, complete puzzles, farm materials and echoes in overworld, and fight bosses. But, there are some places or bosses that you can't fight as a team.
Like the ones that are in some sort of dungeon or domain
And, hi Aife 
nocturne tinsel
<@281162955981324298> Question about calculations. Is substats like Resonance Sk...
all dmg bonus are added together
they operate at the same level and are not independent multipliers
vapid prairie
all dmg bonus are added together
So a 10% Resonance Skill bonus acts like a 10% Elemental DMG Bonus only for Skill. got it. Just wondering why some people prioritise ATK rather than the DMG Bonus of their kit that does most of their DPS.
nocturne tinsel
yep
unless you have an overwhelming part of your damage in one aspect dmg% bonuses arent particularly better than flat atk
compact wigeon
And, hi Aife <:ForteWave:858363227117191178>
Pog
compact wigeon
From experience and what I read, you go to a player's world and explore together...
I see I see
weak jay
From experience and what I read, you go to a player's world and explore together...
||but friend didn't farm together with me 
||
zealous grove
||but friend didn't farm together with me <:KarylThumb:858134107771109386> ||
||I didn't farm with anyone either. I'm just parroting what I read. We can farm later if you want.||
zealous grove
||but friend didn't farm together with me <:KarylThumb:858134107771109386> ||
||And complete my puzzles 
||
vapid prairie
||And complete my puzzles <:LilyGun:818471789083623424> ||
Continously destroy the fire plant so the world owner doesn't solve it
fathom fjord
Exactly same like genshin?
Haven't tried fighting scar in coop
But besides dreamless n the mech boss, u can coop the other bosses
Echoes spawn use lowest data bank lvl amongst party members
Besides picking up flowers/ animals, all team members get item n mining drops
Not sure if there is a range to share drops but if there is, think the range is still very large
So, a way to cheese material farming is farm in coop
zealous grove
Haven't tried fighting scar in coop
I tried. Can only fight him solo.
steep blaze
cute kuro
burnt mortar
wtf
manic rune
split violet
oh boy it's still keep crashing
split violet
i can't even farm bosses
ionic quiver
i see the problem with crashes now
old device
- unoptimized apps from WuWa
dev beginner mistake
marble sapphire
i dont deal with phone crashing, but its my mind that'll crash if i play on phone
since my phone isnt the big screen model
glass galleon
young forge
@candid loom
scenic condor
https://i.imgur.com/5IJDbYg.png
https://i.imgur.com/VYG9Gm8.png
pogpog
glass galleon
now to get 10m more db xp
quasi moth
https://i.imgur.com/5IJDbYg.png
https://i.imgur.com/VYG9Gm8.png
noice
young forge
encore is a dps?
encore can be both hyper carry and quick swap
last nest
Encore is support. She makes enemies die thus supporting her team
quasi moth
quick swap is the intro ability and then swapping them out right?
marble sapphire
where did you get the idea Encore isnt for dealing damage...
quasi moth
just get jianxin
last nest
well, since I didnt get yinlin
Time to save for Jinhsi
quasi moth
<:starege:954364369892950036> where did you get the idea Encore isnt for dealing...
no, Idk the kit so I was just confused
quasi moth
Time to save for Jinhsi
pretty much
young forge
every part of her kit does damage
quasi moth
I'll do single pulls until he banner disappears
young forge
quasi moth
I have yet to read anything so...
quasi moth
I'll spend some time reading kits today
last nest
every part of her kit does damage
Maybe he tried spamming charged attacks with her. Than she does no damage
young forge
Maybe he tried spamming charged attacks with her. Than she does no damage
but you can still HA switch off
verina is good unit
marble sapphire
what i like about Encore is that her kit requires little to no finesse at all 😄
young forge
parry with who?
young forge
gun and rectifier have limited parry options
last nest
apperantly 1.1 has aroun 90 pulls for f2p
Guess I'll just have to win 50/50 for Changli than
young forge
like encore can only plunge parry out of ult
quasi moth
I'm gonna make sure that my backlog for this game is cleat
clear
time to clear all the missions
last nest
And hope camellya isn't the first baner in 1.2
quasi moth
like encore can only plunge parry out of ult
I use sanhua and hmc now (it was lingyang before I got his resonance whatever the fuck it's called)
the eidolon
I stopped using him after that
formal jetty
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Wowow
I still need 3500
I’m saving 20 crystal solvents tho
For emergency
young forge
dosent matter much
i still have no relic exp
i preped mats to get main units and such to 70
formal jetty
Maybe i’ll get to 40 tmr
quasi moth
I'm single pulling until yinlin is gone
young forge
and spend like 10 stamina rn to tune around
quasi moth
is yuanwu any good btw?
formal jetty
He is
young forge
i mean
he looks cool
formal jetty
For a 4*
quasi moth
I see
young forge
but his scalings forgot 0s in it
quasi moth
what is the best 4* atm for different categories?
quasi moth
cuz I might as well make them the priority
I am not gonna do shit on lingyang
I refuse to
formal jetty
Bro is staying level 1 regardless
formal jetty
I have too many chars to build
young forge
what is the best 4* atm for different categories?
best 4* is mortefi and sanhua
zealous grove
yeah. Encore support at worst
young forge
Danjin is good with MC and decent as main dps
last nest
sanhua is good right?
Yes. She has really broken high cons
quasi moth
gotta work on mortefi at some point still
quasi moth
Yes. She has really broken high cons
what's a cons?
all I knnow is that she got mad damage
last nest
Dupes
quasi moth
ahhh
zealous grove
Sequence
last nest
She is also on Jinhsi banner so...
quasi moth
She is also on Jinhsi banner so...
okay I guess this is where I stop then
I do want her to be S6
hopefully this doesnt turn out like serval and natasha where they just stay E3 forever
cuz I can never get dupes for them
seriously tho, I wish they would make a system where we could guarantee what 4* we get from the guaranteed 10 pull
last nest
My is S4 so I should hopefully finish her Seq on next baner
split violet
old device
does ipad 8th generation count as old device?
nocturne tinsel
what i like about Encore is that her kit requires little to no finesse at all 😄
baseline encore does
but she has a calch level skill ceiling
young drift
are u doin cancels in ult mode too?
it's more like figuring out when to do her heavy attack and cancel it and her normal mode skill is very hard in rotations
you have to swap with encore multiple times
on top of inferno rider
all her other attacks are fast
nocturne tinsel
you can swap cancel her out of ult E to get a lot of energy for herself (and some decent damage) at 0 field time cost
nocturne tinsel
the non ult E
scenic condor
it's more like figuring out when to do her heavy attack and cancel it and her no...
heh
it's all swappable
how is that anything skillful
nocturne tinsel
I guess I phrased it poorly
your cancelling the out of ult E
nocturne tinsel
not cancelling her out of her ult E
young drift
it's easy to do in theory sure
scenic condor
not cancelling her out of her ult E
i meant normal e
young drift
in practice you need to pay attention to all the skill cooldowns
scenic condor
to swap so she gets swapped into another skill
and eat the particles?
is this the hard parT?
hmm
young drift
just basically have 0 down time on your skill cooldowns in general is hard if you want to get max value out of encore
cuz she has
so many things to cast
an ddo
scenic condor
idk
maybe im traumatized by cal rotations
but encore felt so easy
and i cancel everything cancellable
young drift
you also need to worry about other characters
not just her
I mena
it's easy to do mechancially
that's not the issue
it's super forgiving too
there's no real time limit
just keeping in mind the downtime
is hard
and doing it in a proper rotation
scenic condor
i havent taken her to tower
cuz it's not her element's turn
so idk
i will when we get fusion bonus
or she can take the middle one with the bosses
that have all-boost
but i didnt tackle that
on lv60
young drift
well calcharo is very telegraphed
he is hard
cuz of the time limit of 11 seconds
but telegraphed
encore you need to pay attention to and know the cooldowns and know when to do what in which order cuz she has so many different things to cancel
only reason she's easier is because there's no time limit
and missing a cancel wont automatically end the run
usually
unlike calcharo
where he loses 40% damage
young drift
same
gave up on him day 3
he's stuck level 45
no skill mats used either
where he belongs
till they buff his ult duration
I do hope kuro buffs standard chars once powercreep hits
cuz they're
borderline barely usable right now and frustarting
most of them
I know they want limiteds to sell
but they can buff the standards after like a year or two
at least
scenic condor
but where to put yinlin
cant put with encore cuz then no wep
put with hmc ig
it was said that electro mc is next
young drift
shrug
next maybe
but when
usually takes a while for MC to get new element
I skipped Yinlin the moment I gave up on calcharo
I did want her weapon but like
if I had to do 70 pulls for it and not get it
fuck that
rather get Jinshi's weapon at that point
cope bp crit rectifier is a pain to build
but good enough
for encore
cuz she's a swap character anyway
I do wonder what Jinshi's main damage source will be
her weapon incentivizes skill damage but idk
hoping Jiyan weapon is good on her so I don't have to pull hers
having 2 5* broadblades is gonna be awkward
and calcharo can use neither KEKW
which is even more awkward
scenic condor
I skipped Yinlin the moment I gave up on calcharo
yeah yinlin was kind of a bait
i see that now
cuz sanhua is just better for encore
and duo havoc is better for hmc
but shes so hot i couldnt resist
young drift
I agree
her story made me want her too
but I resisted
because of Jinshi's adorable fluffy eyelashes
scenic condor
honestly yinlin's best team is probably with hmc
so i'll go do that
kakarot got to lv60
and he stops here
scenic condor
we need a dps for each ele probably
young drift
were 3 crit damage 2 crit rate
from mourning
lol
and that was before UL 40 too
it's a sign
I shall be a broadblade and sword enjoyer
young forge
just press E and swap
You have time to do same amount of shit as calcharos plunge heavy when press encore E and swap back to do secondary explosion by follow up press
Ig tgats what Atilla means?
scenic condor
ah
yeah
encore better cuz room to dodge and just...exist
it's fine
cal benched
im good with it
months later when i have mats to spare i'll max him out oto
scenic condor
yeah
but i dont like how theres no payoff
and hes just too hard to pull off
very very inconsistent
if the mob im hitting dies mid-combo
or moves
or hits me
or i have to dodge
too many variables
im over it
young forge
Isee
And i need to go to groceries in rain
I domt wanna
Ig i should tag Tene for this one
@candid loom
north venture
pog
formal jetty
I still don’t have her despite pulling 110 times on Yinlin banner…
young forge
nocturne tinsel
cuz sanhua is just better for encore
only s4 sanhua and above is better
and there is nothing stopping you from just running both
scenic condor
only s4 sanhua and above is better
and there is nothing stopping you from just r...
there is
lack of weps
encore and yinlin share their wep
and im not rolling anoter stringmaster
when changli is coming
nocturne tinsel
the calc was assuming one gets a 5* and the other gets a bis 4*
for both setups
if you get to have 5* on sanhua and encore but cant do both for encore/yinlin, then sanhua ends up comfortably ahead
scenic condor
yeah probably
i'll just do hmc yinlin
and ecnore gets sanhua
and changli later
unless u mean go encore yinlin sanhua
nocturne tinsel
running them on separate teams so both get to use stringmaster is probably the best option though
nocturne tinsel
unless u mean go encore yinlin sanhua
I do
nocturne tinsel
once you have the stats to go healerless
quasi moth
What other electro dudes do we have?
nocturne tinsel
yuanwu
scenic condor
thats all
nocturne tinsel
and he who must not be mentioned
nocturne tinsel
calch
scenic condor
yinlin doesnt really need an electro partner that bad
quasi moth
nocturne tinsel
calch has been rendered more or less completely homeless now
quasi moth
Wish I had Yinlin
scenic condor
yea cal is ded
nocturne tinsel
she wants one, but she doesnt need one
scenic condor
rip
quasi moth
Just waiting for Jinshi and then eventually the Yinlin rerun
nocturne tinsel
its like yelan triple hydro
she does want the 3rd hydro member for easier energy
but she doesnt need it
quasi moth
nocturne tinsel
yinlin wants 2 kinds of characters
characters that create a rotation that lets her swap in and 2x E then swap out for energy gen
and characters that can abuse her outro
HMC would rather danjin for deepen
but 3rd char can be whatever
scenic condor
but encore would rather changli for deepen
so that means yinlin wont have a home either
also i-
i dont like danjin
ik it's superifical but i dont like her look
her hips are way too wide to be proportionate
and it bugs the hell out of me everytime i look at her
so i'd rather not play her
i do love encore tho, shes so cuuute
and hmc is peak
plus they both want my 5* sword
and it bothers me that i have to run cope on one of them
and i'd rather see more of mc
so my conclusion was that i wanna see more of mc i wanna see more of yinlin
so hmc yinlin pairing made sense in my head
nocturne tinsel
but encore would rather changli for deepen
if you're using changli for deepen then sanhua gets yeeted from the team
and yinlin can take that spot
generally yinlin will output more damage than verina will buff
so that's her competition
scenic condor
this is so interesting
that we think of healerless stuff
then again
my jiyan team has no healer
i just run yy there with healer sword
for the teambuff and energy for jiyan
noooo DONT GO
ahh this story
thank god i rolled her alrdy otherwise i'd probably break bank for her rn
young forge
it was fine