Wuthering Waves

[formal jetty]

You are the minority

[scenic condor]

and all you lazy ppl

[scenic condor]

exactly

[formal jetty]

Alright

[scenic condor]

which is why it makes no sense to nerf something only a very small minority could use

[formal jetty]

At least we got that out there

[scenic condor]

[formal jetty]

I do agree ye

In that sense

[young forge]

[formal jetty]

I was just like

This sounded like some game breaking shit

Just making sure

[scenic condor]

no it's not

[formal jetty]

It affects the 0.1%

[scenic condor]

im sure they wont make the game too hard

or too demanding

this isnt pgr

[formal jetty]

And i agree it doesnt make sense

[young forge]

idk why they do all the new stuff drop on swap
after ppl actaully enjoy that mechanic

[scenic condor]

casuals can clear

[quasi moth]

Accidentally used the premium currency to get the rolls so now I gotta wait even longer to get verina waveband

[formal jetty]

I mean iw as pretty good in pgr… but then again its another pve game that i didnt try too hard

[scenic condor]

with mash

i was just hoping i can sweat something

[young forge]

Chagli buff drops off too

[scenic condor]

but it's fine

[quasi moth]

I gotta learn how to party

[scenic condor]

i'll just do encore

[quasi moth]

Parry

[formal jetty]

Sweating is simply a concept

You can make anything hard if u choose to

[scenic condor]

it's not really sweating for me it's what ppl call it. but I call it fun

I love complex mechanical rotations

[quasi moth]

I thought I’d sweat in wuwa but the game literally came out the day AFTER my finals

I was drained

[scenic condor]

I love learning them and pulling them off

it just feels good

but it feels bad if my reward is.....oh hey now this wont work thank you for trying tho

[young forge]

you should try fighting games Ariel

clearly better then league mald too

[scenic condor]

yeah i tried a couple times but controller just isnt my thing

[formal jetty]

I cannot take p2w pve gacha games seriously

[young forge]

sadness

[formal jetty]

Unfortunately

[scenic condor]

we all find fun somewhere

ig

but it's fine

[young forge]

i like excel part of gacha as f2p

[scenic condor]

i'll get over it tomorrow

[young forge]

but i am too minority

[scenic condor]

and im looking forward to changli

[formal jetty]

I am really good at grinding gacha games

[quasi moth]

Get a fight stick

[formal jetty]

You know i play Nikke and im also f2p there

[quasi moth]

Or you can just try to play it with a keyboard but it’ll be infinitely hard

Learning about frame data and combos and shit is fun

[formal jetty]

I outgrind a lot of ppl

[young forge]

i mean i enjoy optimisation and planning that f2p has to do
thats the resason as stuck around after you and inori introduced me to fkn genshin

and gachas with it

[formal jetty]

Its not about minmaxing tbh

Its about doing high yield activities consistently

[young forge]

we need to introduce Ariel to MonHun

and something like chargeblade

[quasi moth]

Sounds right up his alley

[formal jetty]

I aint mintpicking for 8 hours a day

[quasi moth]

Or her

Idk genders

[formal jetty]

I just do whatever yields the good stuff everyday without fail

Eventually, whales quit and i surpass them

[quasi moth]

Call me enviosity for the amount of hours I spend on mint picking

[young forge]

@scenic condor wanna try MHW

[quasi moth]

[formal jetty]

I was a mintpicker

No longer!!

[young forge]

ive did exactly one ore route once
to get myself second 4* sword

i refuse to do more

[formal jetty]

Well

I spent everything for yinlin

As the result

I got all the weapons i need

[last nest]

Could try smash than

[formal jetty]

so no more ore picking for me

[quasi moth]

I’d rather lose my thumb than to mintpick

[young forge]

i got alot of wep drops from normal banners but those are broads and gauntlets
and i run Encore Sanhua and HMC Danjin

[scenic condor]

i already checked it out it just didnt appeal to me visually

[formal jetty]

Getting old at least gives me a new perspective

Surely i have better things to do than mintpick

[young forge]

MonHun is great and mechanical game

[formal jetty]

[young forge]

and has coop and optimisation

[quasi moth]

We really do take time for granted as kids

[young forge]

you looked at world or rise

[ocean pivot]

[scenic condor]

also doesnt appeal to me visually xd

[young forge]

cos if it was rise

i understand

i hate rise

with passion

[quasi moth]

What about melty blood?

[formal jetty]

Monster hunter is a gem

[quasi moth]

What is your visual preference

🤔

[last nest]

What genre are you interested? I can reccomend a lot of indy things

[ocean pivot]

you a gem

[formal jetty]

I can guarantee you that the game plays much much better than it looks

[scenic condor]

guys guys

im good

i have enough games

but thanks ❤️

[north venture]

lmaoo

[formal jetty]

Its literally every persons initial look at MH, dam the game looks rough and and clunky

[last nest]

But have you played a perfect game?

[formal jetty]

Then once they try it

[young forge]

not rise
i hated that shit
Wilds look like Elden ring with MH paint rn

[formal jetty]

WOOWOWOWOOWOWOWO WHY HAVENT I PLAYED THIS SOONER ADAW

[scenic condor]

pgr tbh is very close to what im looking for

honestly

all i would want

[young forge]

DMC

[scenic condor]

is an mmo

with pgr's combat

[young forge]

my beloved

[scenic condor]

and something thats not pve

[ocean pivot]

mmo with pgr combat, good luck

[scenic condor]

i tried naraka

many times tbh

[last nest]

Do I have a game for you. A little known gem known as New world(s)

[scenic condor]

it would seem like my kinda game

but

it's sadly ded

[scenic condor]

huh

the amazon game that flopped then unflopped?

[ocean pivot]

New world more like dead worldge

[last nest]

Did it unflop?

[young forge]

there is also Lost Ark
and whats that grindfest that looks like naraka

[scenic condor]

idk did it?

[scenic condor]

NO

[last nest]

All I know about it is from worst mmo ever series

[scenic condor]

i played lost ark

[ocean pivot]

Lost Ark, you just ruined my day waza

[scenic condor]

it's not it

jesus

[formal jetty]

[scenic condor]

isometric view shit

what a terrible fking idea

and korean mmo

NEVER PLAY KOREAN MMO

it's soulless grind with a million alts

[formal jetty]

Low key spitting

[ocean pivot]

if never play kmmo why chars hot

[north venture]

my irl friendgroup is addicted to maplestory

[ocean pivot]

[formal jetty]

Dont let lured in by the graphics

[north venture]

send help

[quasi moth]

Mmo in general seems painful

[formal jetty]

They are all the same souless p2w grindfest

[young forge]

you fool
my first online expirience was lineage 2
in pc club
it cant get worse for me

[last nest]

But if you wanted to actually play a perfect game. There is always this.

[ocean pivot]

Lost Ark was my perfect baby I could play for 12 hours a day easy

[young forge]

thats a good game

[young forge]

story was shit

fallen priest was hot

grind was too much

[formal jetty]

Lost Ark started out strong

But like all korean mmorpgs

They fall off fast

[young forge]

i burned out on mid-end grind

[scenic condor]

i loved black desert combat

[young forge]

black desert right

[ocean pivot]

I spent hours upon hours grinding hell mode raids with guildies purely for titles and bragging rights

[young forge]

that what i ment by naraka grindfiest

[scenic condor]

fk look at this

i was looking for my grapple

genshin

is so ba

BAD

lnafndasnfdskjfn

[young forge]

just wallrun it

[formal jetty]

Good graphic + combat mmo that isnt ruined by corporate greed does not exist atm

[scenic condor]

IKR I TRIED THAT TOO

[last nest]

Your C2 Wandere bro?

[scenic condor]

and keep pressing auto cuz no skip button

[ocean pivot]

To this day I can still queue up for a valtan raid and it all comes back to me, dodging attacks within pixel distance

[last nest]

Just pay for qol

[scenic condor]

hes alive but this is trustfarm team

and my scara is only c1

i ended up not going for c2

doesnt add much to the gameplay and he deals plenty dmg alrdy

[last nest]

Well, idk. I don't care about genshin combat so all I do is dailies and events

[young forge]

but if you want snapppy non mmo combat
DMC is my beloved

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-devilmaycry-dance-weepwoomweepwoom-gif-23923472

there is also alot of hot men

[scenic condor]

pgr best gacha ever

i'll die on that hill

[young forge]

noone contests you

I WILL DIE ON THAT HILL

nah fam we good

[shy lotus]

Arknights>

[last nest]

Wuwa tho. I think I will like it more than PGR in long term

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bloons-monkey-ninja-kiwi-bloons-tower-defense6-btd-gif-18355981

[shy lotus]

Almost jolyne shirt @young forge

[young forge]

one day we will reach the day when we can dress like jojo characters and not be looked at like we are freaks, Emma

[shy lotus]

Just go to a con

[scenic condor]

i cant get behind the forced sig banner and then genshin release system

wuwa will have fomo

which pgr doesnt have

[young forge]

i was at a con once
i realised i wasnt build for it
alot of sweaty nerds
queues to everything
overpriced art and merch

[scenic condor]

and this alone puts wuwa behind pgr for me

[last nest]

ehh. I will just use 4 star weapons. Maybe getting sig on reruns

[scenic condor]

no you wont cause by then u have new sigs to get

also characters

we cant get every character

unlike in pgr

so

fomo

[north venture]

just highroll

[scenic condor]

ik thats the basis of gacha but that why pgr is special to me

[last nest]

Have to skip so I hope they make more males than pgr lol

Otherwise it's looking pretty grim

[scenic condor]

pgr does it well imo it doesnt bother me

pgr has a small cast

[shy lotus]

Pgr bas like 3 males

[scenic condor]

and the male to female ratio isnt bad

[shy lotus]

💀

[formal jetty]

I was big on pgr

Sadly i was new to gacha ways back then

[last nest]

but honestly I doubt they will keep releasing hits like they do for versions 1.0-1.2 design wise for me

[formal jetty]

I quit once i ran out of things to do

[last nest]

Like even in PGr some chars don't do anything for me

[formal jetty]

Didnt know its when the game truly starts

[scenic condor]

FALSE PGR HAS 8 MALES

gotcha

[last nest]

This is why HSr is so nice to me cause not only they have decent income but also release a lot of meh desings that are easy to skip

[shy lotus]

And bow much females

[scenic condor]

i dont mind

remember hi3 used to be my main gacha

and that has ONE male

[formal jetty]

Thats one too many

[young forge]

did ya saw new male in HSR ariel?

or avoided?

[scenic condor]

i dont care about hsr

[young forge]

good

[last nest]

Adam slander

[scenic condor]

i unfollowed everything relating to it

[scenic condor]

yeah adam is the one male

whos not even playable outside apho

[last nest]

Doesn't part 2 also have male lead?

[young forge]

Adam was just Dante

with black hair

[last nest]

Well optional gender one

[scenic condor]

doesnt count it's just self insert shit

[young forge]

wait

HI3 went self insert?

[scenic condor]

idunno

i left

[north venture]

yep

[young forge]

oof

[last nest]

Really? I thought they would give them their own arc

[scenic condor]

im not following hi3 anymore either

i quit after herrscher seele arc and never looked back

and in my head moon chapters dont exist

and kiana died

as she should have

[last nest]

Wait why? Nobody was even trying to kill her at any point lol

[scenic condor]

self-sacrifice

she was supposed to die on the moon, absorbing all the honkai

[ocean pivot]

Wow ariel beat me to the answer

[scenic condor]

but they rectonned it

and bullshtit POWER OF FRIENDSHIP

and 4th wall breaking

it was a clusterfuck

[last nest]

Honkai are good guys know. Get with the program

[ocean pivot]

"My friends are my power!"

[formal jetty]

Cant relate

[scenic condor]

and instead of the noble sacrifice that would have been the end of kiana's amazing journey we got....kiana taking selfies on the moon in her own spa and can leave anytime

[formal jetty]

Cuz i have no friends

[scenic condor]

.............

[last nest]

How the fuck they are supposed to be good(or at least not-evil) while technicaly being in the same multiverse us honkai 2 is anyone question

[scenic condor]

it was so anticlimactic

[scenic condor]

honkai isnt evil

think of honkai as a force of nature

[young forge]

its neutral i bet

[scenic condor]

it's doin its thing

[young forge]

yep

[ocean pivot]

Rules of Natuuuuuuure

[scenic condor]

and it's a cycle

birth, destruction, rebirth

honkai is the stuff facilitating it

[last nest]

In honkai 2 they say honkai are extension of some omniversal super evill dimensonal threat that wants to, you guess it, destroy the world

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reapers-take-over-aliens-city-gif-13837503

[ocean pivot]

dum shipsquids

getting beat by a color

[scenic condor]

the honkai just isnt that deep of a concept

[last nest]

Which is exact fucking opposite of what Hi3 says about them so idk how that works now considering it's supposed to be the same body of work

[scenic condor]

and not the point of the story anyway

[young forge]

when you tell ppl for 2+ games reapers are real
and they are surprised that reapers are real

[scenic condor]

the point is watching our main protags grow from schoolchildren into women

thru hardships

trauma

happiness

and whatnot

[last nest]

The point was watching Otto shenenigans

[young forge]

^

[ocean pivot]

[scenic condor]

otto's ending was beautiful

but undeserved

[ocean pivot]

Otto

[young forge]

thats why i didnt return after Otto death

[ocean pivot]

Otto's ending deserved Ariel fite me

[scenic condor]

but hes still one of the best written villains ever

[last nest]

Otto is basicly gacha version of Lex luthor(the one from animated series). As in the writters liked him so much they eventually forgot he was supposed to be the bad guy and just let him win

[north venture]

im just really salty none of these big gachas have mac clients

let me play gachas at work without having to use mobile controls smadgj

[scenic condor]

it's deserved in terms of celebrating his legacy in terms of the impressions that he left on us players. it's not deserved from a narrative pov

[ocean pivot]

Lex Luthor evolved from cake stealing baddie, to anti-superman human supremacist. now THAT is character development

[young forge]

i like it differen
"We understand that blowing up Btarian colony was nesseity and hard choise, it should slow down reapers"
"what reapers?"

[last nest]

You can thank the animated series for that. They reinvented him from mad sceintist to business tychoon

[ocean pivot]

DC live action is a travesty but by god do they do animated right

[young forge]

also, MC wise
from what i saw from ZZZ
at least both MC are siblings who both present in story and conversations
and fully voiced for both of them
so you just choose who gonna be center figure more

[last nest]

Just before he hated superman for making him bald(real shit, look it up) so they had to invented a more serious reason for their conflict

[young forge]

so at least they have that going for it

[scenic condor]

otto tldr: genius boy simping for a lesbian, ignoring the fact that shes not into it, then when said lesbian dies he spends 500 years tryna resurrect her while destroying millions of lives only to sacrifice himself at the end to get her a new start but she will never know of his sacrifice

[ocean pivot]

JL, JLU, Batman Brave & Bold, Batman Animated, Batman Beyond, etc

DC rules supreme in animated category, let marvel have their dumdum MCU

[last nest]

Don't care not playing more MHY games at this point

[north venture]

i'm a hsr megawhale

[ocean pivot]

Never strayed from his goal

[north venture]

so im in it for the long haul

[young forge]

i was sceptilac too
until i saw Shenpai cbt3 vid and then Zhu

[north venture]

ambatu wallahi

[ocean pivot]

[young forge]

Zhu got me

to at least try it

[ocean pivot]

Maktub

[quasi moth]

What are ya lot on about

[young forge]

police brutality AND gun kata

[quasi moth]

I’ve deleted hsr

[young forge]

win win

[quasi moth]

I’ll reinstall it on Sam, and then dip straight away

[ocean pivot]

like i did for shenhe

[quasi moth]

I have more than enough funds to guarantee sam

[last nest]

Nah it's just on principal at this point. They clearly want to flood the market with gachas of similar quality wich is going to be a disaster in the long run

That's how we got marvel superhero trash

[quasi moth]

Just gotta hope I get ruan mei; I want to finish my dot team before I quit the game

But if it doesn’t happen

[ocean pivot]

Hoyo will BE the market

[quasi moth]

Peh

[young forge]

they go for apple ecosystem
circle their players across 3 gachas hype patches

[north venture]

why does ur dot team need ruan mei

[last nest]

I hope ZZZ failes so I don't have to do with mid copies of every popular gacha on the market by Hoyo

[ocean pivot]

becus mommi

you silli billi

[young forge]

its ok

[last nest]

3? ohh no. They already have 2 more fucking games in development

[north venture]

i will never pull ruan mei

[young forge]

Kuro will do ZZZ in 2 years

[last nest]

And recruiting people for another one

[quasi moth]

You can run it instead of huohuo

For me specifically? I wanna replace my fire mc that’s been there for ages

Fire mc, Kafka, huohuo, bs

[north venture]

just

run

robin

instead of fmc

[quasi moth]

Give me robin

[young forge]

anyway
here is the reason i decided to at least try it
Plus animation budget
https://youtu.be/2SGbS40zEkI

[quasi moth]

I am not ruining my guarantee for fucking robin

[ocean pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-hsr-robin-hsr-gif-15325352270274467404

[young forge]

robin not on banner anymore

you are save

[quasi moth]

lost Acheron 50/50 so now Sam is guaranteed

[young forge]

now we have depressing cowboy

[quasi moth]

We are in bootyhill season

Ye

[quasi moth]

Cowboy blade

[north venture]

just dont miss

[last nest]

Why? Robin is great

[north venture]

its that easy

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/boothill-boot-hill-boothill-hsr-boothillhsr-cowboys-gif-8656565974823333396

[quasi moth]

Cuz I want Sam?

[last nest]

Meta wise

Why not both?

[quasi moth]

I don’t care about the meta

[ocean pivot]

The bootyhill 5, wer thriller animation

[quasi moth]

Cuz I lose my 50/50s?

[last nest]

Just 1 pull Acheron and 30 pull her lighcone like I did

[quasi moth]

Yea 10, I wish I was that lucky

[young forge]

Acheron was a bait

trust

[north venture]

nah

[quasi moth]

I mean I wanted her cuz I like her

[north venture]

acheron does 5 billion damage

[quasi moth]

I didn’t get her

[young forge]

they now increase elemental res of boss enemies to 40 and 60%

[north venture]

worth all $450 i spent on her

[last nest]

Acheron is broken

[quasi moth]

And I like firefly so I am guaranteeing her at least

So that’s nice

[young forge]

she needs too much investment for my liking

[quasi moth]

I’m gonna hope I win the 50/50 on ruan mei

[young forge]

so i skipped her

[quasi moth]

But knowing my luck

[last nest]

If you care about meta save for the China general number 2

[young forge]

for the GOAT Aventurine

[quasi moth]

That ain’t happening

[young forge]

and big robot Sam

[last nest]

Leakers say she is Acheron level

[quasi moth]

Jaioqi?

[north venture]

i am of the firm belief all leakers dont deserve human rights whatsoever

[quasi moth]

Just don’t believe them

Ez

[young forge]

no

[quasi moth]

I sometimes forget that characters are being leaked

[young forge]

Jaq is different unit

https://7tv.app/emotes/652d5d02090d69297fe9603f

[quasi moth]

Like I don’t remember boothill being leaked at all

I c

[young forge]

there is female general

[ocean pivot]

just search for me being madge at vtuber

[young forge]

on next ship

[north venture]

if its not hua

i dont care

[young forge]

we getting smol hua

like we got smol mei

with pela

[last nest]

Feixiao

[quasi moth]

Oh you mean the character people were calling yq’s girlfriend?

[quasi moth]

Who?

[young forge]

yes

[quasi moth]

Oh

I see

Rip off nilou

[last nest]

She supposdly comes in 2.5 I think?

[quasi moth]

I see

[ocean pivot]

ill rip off rola

[quasi moth]

I’ll be long gone by then

[last nest]

She is Midyuan equivelent from another ship

[young forge]

ppl meme
basically in anniv event
JY being true asian parent wingmanned YQ and granddaugher of his friend

[quasi moth]

[quasi moth]

Arrange marriage

Girlfriend doesn’t fit it then, it’s gotta be wide

Wife*

[ocean pivot]

i arranged my marriage with my albedo figures

[quasi moth]

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-albedo-albedo-genshin-gif-22107526

based

[quasi moth]

I was gonna say “choose better” but albedo is the best overlord girl

Prolly

Unless it’s a different albedo

[young forge]

wait not genshin albedo

nvm

[last nest]

Lakyus begs to differ

[quasi moth]

Isn’t it just beido?

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/albedo-genshin-impact-throw-gif-19719739

[wind pawn]

@scenic condor get yinlin yet

[quasi moth]

I still got my preferences

[quasi moth]

Ag

I see

[north venture]

alright the store isnt broken anymore

[quasi moth]

He is an artist so he got my respect

[young forge]

we just got ariel to stop being salty

[north venture]

s6 yinlin omw

[young forge]

and you came

[quasi moth]

Time to card slash

God damn it ten

[wind pawn]

I havent either

[quasi moth]

Gonna ten pull to yinlin s6

[last nest]

Thank you for supporting small indy devs

[wind pawn]

70 pulls no yinlin

[quasi moth]

I hope I get yinlin at some point

I think I hit either 50 or 60 pulls

If it’s not yinlin

Then at least

Let it be encore

[last nest]

Just save

[quasi moth]

Or jianxin

[scenic condor]

no and im not going to

[last nest]

if you can't guranty

[quasi moth]

I want Yinlin, brother

[ocean pivot]

albedo is my background rn

[last nest]

This banner is ass for 4 stars

[quasi moth]

I want it now

[last nest]

💳

[quasi moth]

_akeno better still imo _

[wind pawn]

Im afraid my pity won't be yinlin

[ocean pivot]

wouldnt know, never watched dxd

[wind pawn]

Ill cry

[quasi moth]

I am not made of money

[quasi moth]

She and Kafka got same voice actors for jp voice

[ocean pivot]

well i use CN voice so

[quasi moth]

Go watch dxd, experience some funny stuff

[wind pawn]

Guarantee 5star isnt Guarantee banner 5 star

[quasi moth]

God daym it

Yinlin is pretty cool

[north venture]

imagine recommending

high school dxd

thats fucked.

[quasi moth]

I did not expect her to be virtuous

[scenic condor]

banner is shit, i threw a 10 pull on it so now im 10 pulls in with no guarantee, and i dont even have enough rn to go to first pity, which im gonna lose anyway so yea i gave up. plus due to her nerfs the cal yinlin swap rotation doesnt even work anymore (tho shes amazing regardless and great in any team tbh) so this just further discouraged me

[quasi moth]

Hey, grim is old I ain’t recommending this shit to a kid at least

[scenic condor]

i'll just sit on my ass and wait for changli

[quasi moth]

Then again

[ocean pivot]

Hey now dxd is a good recommendation if it's what you lookin for

[scenic condor]

or maybe pick up jinshi

[quasi moth]

What older person would watch dxd

Dxd feels exclusively like a teenager pick

If you see it too late, it’ll definitely feel cringe

it does have decent writing tho

[wind pawn]

How many total?

[last nest]

Join the dark side

[quasi moth]

O right

If I lose yinlin

[wind pawn]

Im 70 pulls rn

[quasi moth]

I guarantee Jinshi

I like her English voice

[last nest]

Maybe you are shonen connosuar?

[quasi moth]

It’s monotone but also soothing

[scenic condor]

i have like 40 more pulls kek

but lots of pulls left in the world, i could probably make it to first pity

but i dont care about yinlin anymore

[last nest]

I struggle to sea any actuall value in dxd instead

[quasi moth]

I got no clue, I watch whatever

Nowadays it’s just isekai slop and mushoku tensei atm

[scenic condor]

what i wanted her for is not possible anymore so fk kuro

[wind pawn]

I need her for cal buff

[scenic condor]

buff drops anyway

[wind pawn]

Electric and ult buff

[scenic condor]

on first swap

so

[quasi moth]

Tbf, I have watched the first 3 seasons like 5 times

[scenic condor]

it's not even a good selling point to me

[quasi moth]

And the f fourth season 2 times

I do a rewatch binge once a year or two

[wind pawn]

I don't switch till consorto energy anyway

Doesn't affect me

[scenic condor]

yeah u play unoptimally so doesnt matter for you

neither does the yinlin skill nerf

it's fine

im happy for you

i hope u enjoy it

[wind pawn]

Thanks

[scenic condor]

i'll just cry myself to sleep

[north venture]

tbh im pulling all these new characters

yet im still using the three free characters we got at the beginning of the story

[wind pawn]

[quasi moth]

How many will you actually use is what I’m wondering

[scenic condor]

changli is so fking cool

i cant

[north venture]

none of them with how slow i take farming

[quasi moth]

She looks like kiara

[last nest]

Both Jinhsi and Changli have top tier animations

They are really killing genshin in this department

[quasi moth]

Fuck the animation

Jinshi’s English voice is nice

[ocean pivot]

Changli fried chicken

[scenic condor]

im keep rewatching changli

it's gonna be an eternity

but thank god her sig is shit

so i dont have to roll it

[last nest]

Yes. I think we are set for good revenue for 1.1 at least

[quasi moth]

I mean genshin doesn’t have summon animation on characters

It’s just a silhouette

[scenic condor]

genshin kits are too simplistic

[quasi moth]

[scenic condor]

for this kind of animation

[quasi moth]

It’s a pandemic game

[last nest]

Prob with genshin is relative stiffness of combat.

[scenic condor]

yeah

i dont bother with genshin combat anymore

[last nest]

In Wuwa combat animations are very fluid.

[scenic condor]

i just bruteforce

sometimes i come up with male only clears for fun

but rarely these days

[last nest]

It's one thing they really got well in PGR. Making combat look and feel good

[north venture]

should i reinstall pgr

is there anything happening there

[last nest]

While Genshin had Hi3 combat and decided to dumb it down to extreme

[scenic condor]

last few days of feral patch, now we are heading into 2 "free" patches and afterwards it's anniversary

[north venture]

o

anni

im convinced

ty ariel

[scenic condor]

so not much gonna happen for the next 3 months

but you can come back just to farm up currency

for anni

[last nest]

We are about to end the current patch(the 21 new form) and go into saving mode for a while

[north venture]

i dont think i got very far on my pgr

[last nest]

But after 3 motnh of saving ohh boy. Top tier chars come out quick

[scenic condor]

well ur always welcome in #1165768674913820773

[north venture]

the amount of menuing i had to do back then turned me off

[scenic condor]

feral caught me off guard so hard by how fun she is

[shy lotus]

Pgr menu is atrocious

[scenic condor]

yeah

thats pgr's only flaw

[shy lotus]

Event rewards being in the News section

Lmao quit after that

[last nest]

That's the greatest part of playing PGR casually. I can actually enjoy Feral rather than being locked into Alpa all the time

[north venture]

none of these games

have

mac clients

[scenic condor]

yep.swap teams are the future

[shy lotus]

Mac is dead anyway

[scenic condor]

who uses mac these days

[north venture]

tell that to my work

[scenic condor]

it's for 40+ posh people who still think using mac is prestige

my previous job forced it on me

i hated every minute of it

[last nest]

Which is why I actually have to pull for karenina on anni.

[scenic condor]

ss3

otherwise stick with tenebrion

cuz hes free to SS and SS teneb=s0 karen

[last nest]

I forgot, is she only god at ss3?

Even with lamia?

[scenic condor]

shes only viable onfield if shes ss3

otherwise her rotation falls apart

[last nest]

Ohh well, Guess I am going for ss3 Emperyon than

[scenic condor]

anyway

other channel

[north venture]

my workplace uses macs becase sysadmin work on macs is infinitely easier and stress free than using windows

[scenic condor]

who

[north venture]

so im stuck with a macbook instead of a windows laptop

[last nest]

liv amplifier frame

[scenic condor]

empy has no ss3

shes too old for that

ss3 didnt exist back then

[north venture]

gg

[last nest]

Right right. It was called SSS back than

[scenic condor]

no

ss3 is not sss

ss3 is 1/3rd of an sss in terms of shards

but older units have no checkpoint boosts from the way from ss to sss

it started with karen

[last nest]

Well, you get what I mean now. It will only cost me 1 pity anyway with 2 free selectors

[scenic condor]

you need 3 dupes

from SS to SSS

[last nest]

Yes. so 2 dupes from selectors

One hard on anni.

[scenic condor]

it's.....uh...not at all worth it

go for daren

roll/selector 2 of her and get 30 shards from ppc

and you have your ss3

[last nest]

Will see. At least no good skins come out for a while so my BC is safe

[scenic condor]

empy is old af she's likely to die soon

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-punishing-punishing-gray-raven-ayla-ayla-kaleido-gif-4053724200650648518

[north venture]

rip..

[wind pawn]

@scenic condor my "pity"

🫠

[last nest]

Not lion boy=already a win

[quasi moth]

Encore

Let’s goo

[wind pawn]

No.

Increased rates on yinlin my ass

[quasi moth]

Increased rates also doesn’t mean guaranteed rate

[wind pawn]

Wish it was like BA

[north venture]

if u hit pity the rate is 50/50

thats all

[quasi moth]

I have lost em all

[wind pawn]

Where pity was select on banner

[quasi moth]

In hsr

[north venture]

git gud

skill issue

[wind pawn]

Welp

[quasi moth]

Well that’s why I plan

[wind pawn]

Time to whale

[quasi moth]

With 160 pulls in mind

[north venture]

i dont need to plan

[quasi moth]

Cuz Ik I’ll lose it

[north venture]

i just chuck my credit card at the banner

[quasi moth]

[north venture]

[wind pawn]

[quasi moth]

Only time I’ll chuck credit card

Is for someone I simp for a lot

so prolly Yinlin in her rerun banner hopefully

Can’t do it now cuz I’m brokege

[young forge]

before you whale look at Changli and Magistrate animations

[marble sapphire]

I see the Jinhsi and Changli animations and...wow they look great

[scenic condor]

good one tho

[young forge]

yeah

Yinlin and Jiyan feel even mroe fo a bait

esp considering Chagli weapon is not that impressive

[marble sapphire]

too bad I already rolled for Yinlin

[young forge]

[scenic condor]

jiyan isnt bait

you do need a dps for each ele

kinda

[young forge]

eh

yeah

[scenic condor]

tower has ele bias

and we have immune enemies too

so you need at least 1 something for each

yinlin is bait

but

jiyan wasnt

tho i think the bigger bait is calcharo

[young forge]

but also i am CBA to tryhard
as i said before
i came in with genshin mindset

[scenic condor]

and yinlin actually can serve as the electro dps in general for a mixed tema

[young forge]

cool units > meta

[scenic condor]

yinlin is hella cool tho

[young forge]

that i agree

but i like Changli design alot

[scenic condor]

tho i hate her normals

[young forge]

and not spending

[scenic condor]

they feel clunk

[scenic condor]

me too

i LOVE IT

phoenix mommy

fuhua but dommy

[young forge]

i find it fine it trial
cos its puppetiring

animation wise

its cool

[scenic condor]

yeah i get the idea behind it

it's just too slow

for my liking

[young forge]

fair

[scenic condor]

n1-2 are good

n3 and n4 windup is huge

[young forge]

tho Changli buff drops off again

on switch

[scenic condor]

doesnt matter

[young forge]

but eh

[scenic condor]

u can go onfield encore

instead of quickswap

do her pre-ult rota

and then changli outro

then encore ult

into full ult rota

and swap only at the end

it's fine for that

[young forge]

i didnt read deep into changli kit
i thought she looked like she wants some field time

[scenic condor]

she does

[young forge]

with her stacks and forte

[scenic condor]

which is fine

[marble sapphire]

reading stuff, it seems some people are waking up to using Yuanwu with Yinlin

[scenic condor]

cuz encore isnt calcharo

so you can use her field time

post-encore ult

after encore is done

u can do rider/swap into changli then back, then encore skill swapcancel into changli again

and this way u can stack up changli concerto

if her dps is sufficient surely will do more than having encore trying to do non-ult stuff

on her downtime

[young forge]

i mean yeah
encore is bursty even in ult

[scenic condor]

encore is bursty IN ult

what im saying is

u can use changli to cover the downtime post-encore ult cycle

or maybe she has quick rota like sanhua

idk

we'll see

[young forge]

no i mean
she can be quickswap and her burst ult is decently short

[scenic condor]

11.45s to be exact

[young forge]

2 chains into HA swap off

[scenic condor]

for the full encore rota

[marble sapphire]

in any case, I wouldn't call Yinlin bait, she seems a bit future proof considering she'd only get better with more electric DPS options in the future...

[young forge]

after her changes she is 5* Mortefi

like Yelan is 5* XQ

offfield damage applier is good

[quasi moth]

@scenic condor is Vera a psycho?

Idk her character but she felt like she would be unhinged

[marble sapphire]

leaning on (x) doubt from what I hear

[quasi moth]

Yinlin fucking warped my character expectations

[quasi moth]

I see

[formal jetty]

Pull for who u like

[young forge]

^

[formal jetty]

U can clear end game with any char built

Have 1 built for each element

[marble sapphire]

from what I hear Vera does have sadistic tendencies but she also does have a soft side

[quasi moth]

I see

[young forge]

i am in promised echo grind adjustment waiting room rn
1.7 days of exp grind to level one echo to 25 is pain

[formal jetty]

Yea im max chilling until june 20

Or whatever the date is

[young forge]

i leveled 4s and 3s on main units and thats all

i have no arti exp

ig ill farm double exp drops for getting units to 70

and prefarm ascention

for account levlel 40

Elden Ring DLC and FF14 DLC soon

[formal jetty]

Should always use up 3 weekly chances for calamity boss anyways

[young forge]

they gave WAR hammer BONK in ff14

thats understandable

i unfortunatly play HSR Neyuh

i know

[formal jetty]

I was disconnected from hoyoverse after i quit genshin

They did not budge me with ToF nor HSR

[young forge]

good for you

tldr
Genshin better game
HSR better gacha

thats all

[last nest]

HSR deffo is better game than genshin

[formal jetty]

I got interested in this game mostly cuz the same devs made pgr which was a game i loved

[young forge]

its combat is shallow
exploration lacking
powercreep started 3 patches in
they print characters much faster

i like scifi

so i am still there

[formal jetty]

I shit you not

[young forge]

if penacony arc was shit like loufu id uninstalled

[last nest]

Combat is not an argument in favour of genshin lol. Exploration is better is pretty much the only thing genshin has over hsr

[young forge]

Genshin elemental system depth carries combat

there

[formal jetty]

I got ppl shiiling me honkai impact

[young forge]

its just there is no endgame to do it

[formal jetty]

Im like the ship has long sailed friend

[last nest]

The depth translates too - Press e, press q, switch. press e press q switch

[young forge]

i played HI3 its fine

[last nest]

Or if you are daring. FARING MY LAZAA with zero swtiching involved

[young forge]

thats not every team

[young forge]

the only gacha i prise and sell to ppl is re99 cos i am sucker for artdeco

[last nest]

Like it's okay not to like turn based gameplay. You don't need to talk up genshin combat to do it

[young forge]

[young forge]

turn based gameplay needs more then 2 buttons to be good

[marble sapphire]

if Jinhsi is themed after Seiryu while Changli is themed after Suzaku, I guess we would see Genbu and Byakko theme in the future

[formal jetty]

They dont put out rotating challenging end game content?

[young forge]

Genshin needs much more work to do cos they need to adjust for elemental system
3d animations from all angles, movement in combat and all that shit
its a good game if you look into mechanics
HSR needs at least one extra button
rn its combat often just a statcheck, thats why i gravitate to dot and fua there, those teams at least have synergy and want to work together

[young forge]

remember at the start of the genshin there was abyss and nothing else?

[formal jetty]

Yea

[young forge]

there is still abyss and nothing else

[formal jetty]

Nice

Mintpicking it is, truly the end game we all desrve

[young forge]

they addind new mode
element locked

[marble sapphire]

and from the sounds of it, the enemies only got even more stat bloaty

[last nest]

Genshin never had any other endgame that isn't just abyss

Even know all they did is add Abyss 2 as the new end game

I just can't

[formal jetty]

Well i hope this game doesnt follow the same footsteps

Cuz if they do

This gonna be a solid 10min a day routine game for me

[young forge]

abyss enemies got bloaty in sumeru patches
later in sumeru cycle and in fountane they switched it up
now enemies and bosses more agressive instead
and 1 or 2 shot you

[last nest]

Another funny things is that like 90 percent of genshin players don't touch abyss

So for overwhelming majority of players their is literaly no challenge and no endgame

Why? Cause abyss fucking sucks and is extremly unfun to play.

[young forge]

main plus of genshin is lack of powercreep
fountane (current patch cycle) was first time in 4 years there was direct upgrades to like 2 limited 5*s
they instead go horizontally filling nishe options for characters where some better then others

[last nest]

that's not a plus.

[young forge]

not really that
90% of genshin playerbase casuals who only play genshin
and may be got into hsr too
they are there to explore shit mostly
and looking at new region leaks they doubling down on that again

do not defend powercreep

pls

[last nest]

Hsr has a lot more players doing all 3 endgame mods

Cause at least you can auto in HSR

[young forge]

cos HSR needs both auto and endgame mods

unlike genshin
where playerbase there to explore cool zones

and fuck off

most of them run in purple unlevled relics

with no talents

[last nest]

Yes so HSR actually works like it's designed to push people to clear endgame vs genshin where it just doesn't work

[formal jetty]

Abyss is unfun ye just too much dps check rather than skill check

[last nest]

Wchih is why Neuv had such mid sales when he is literaly the most broken thing since bread

[young forge]

there is no endgame to push

ppl there not for that
again

in hsr you do story and all you have left is gearing and endgame modes

that dosent make game bad

its just different angle

[last nest]

And again becouse abyss isn't important we get endless sidegrandes(or downgrades), chars with zero story focus and lazy and boring events

Cause the only thing Genshin even cares about at this point is exploration so outside of like 3 patches nothing ever hapens

[rough token]

What the hell
I ran out of quests

[scenic condor]

yeah kinda xd

[young forge]

genshin tackles casuals and ppl who dont really play gacha
hsr is more focused on classical gacha mechanics and loops
and ZZZ looks to be focused on animations and next iteration of HI3 like stage combat mald

and what ever they will cook for 4th and 5th game they doing

Hoyo wants to have fingers in all pies rn

they would like their playbase play all 3 games
but dont need to

i know alot of ppl who looks forward for ZZZ cos over the top cutscenes and motley character designs

[last nest]

Lets be real people look forward to it cause it's MHY.

[young forge]

cos hoyo puts high quality AAA analog for gacha games rn

[last nest]

I mean idk, ZZZ looks basicly just Hi3 with worse char designs to me

[young forge]

my problem with HI3 was selling different reskins of same character

i dont like that

look we made Kiana 3 that works a bit differently for your kiana 2

[ocean pivot]

im the opposite i love reskin garms

[vocal ginkgo]

FEH reskins

[young forge]

skins is one

reskin of a unit to sell you in gacha again is another

how many Meis hoyo sold you in HI3 in total

[ocean pivot]

I like the reskin of a unit as another unit cus it means i already have preloaded feelings for em

I hate em? ez skip
I love em? ez whale

[vocal ginkgo]

i cant get enough of fuhua

[ocean pivot]

Sometimes i just get tired of excessive variety, im a "pick one thing and never change" guy so a reskin is basically "thing you like but new"

[scenic condor]

fkin yinlin

why are u so hot

kjldasnfdnasdfasn

i thought i made up enough reasons for me to skip

but

it's still hard

[wind pawn]

Tomorrow

https://x.com/bcm55838899/status/1793571405994635551?t=2X3alzaRReWZWu7DMOyF7Q&s=19

cm羊 (@bcm55838899) on X

#WutheringWaves #WuWafanart
#鳴潮

Twitter · May 23, 2024, 9:15 AM

Artist has questionable art

But this one clean

[marble sapphire]

were you a Vera simp

[wind pawn]

[scenic condor]

not specifically

but yes i dig vera

obviously

especially cuz her VA is elysia

and hearing elysia's angelic voice sound so psycho is so funny to me

[wind pawn]

https://x.com/Vardan66523629/status/1798571647273980040?t=i2dLCVNvdtmBtiM7F-iJwQ&s=19

Vardan (@Vardan66523629) on X

⚡💀⚡
#WutheringWaves #WuWafanart #鳴潮 #명조

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 4:24 AM

Soon

[scenic condor]

she does look like a vera expy

so im surprised she doesnt have her VA

[young forge]

Danjin looking for her sister
may be Vera will be her sister

[scenic condor]

https://tenor.com/view/vera-s-vera-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-flare-gif-24290868

actually

rozen vera does fit to be danjin sister

https://tenor.com/view/vera-gif-22379308

dual sword+red eyes thing

[marble sapphire]

maybe its a conscious choice to differentiate Yinlin with Vera, that they share so many traits but ultimately these are different people and not "Vera isekaid to WuWa"

[scenic condor]

and thats why it's expy

not the isekaid

kek

[young forge]

esp considering Dajnin a bit crazy too

[wind pawn]

https://x.com/yameyame_k/status/1794331415859114150?t=odrWzxxihmYbcS-mZNj5fA&s=19

kimsoto (@yameyame_k) on X

#鳴潮 #WutheringWaves #WuWaFanart #Calcharo

Twitter · May 25, 2024, 11:35 AM

Electric Boi

😤

[marble sapphire]

he looks so edgy but then his lore reveals that he's actually mid transition to being non edgy dad figure

[young drift]

I wonder

@nocturne tinsel @scenic condor how good is double crit damage in 4 4 1 1 1 compared to the usual double elemental damage

[scenic condor]

it's worse

[young drift]

cuz Jinshi legit gets 20% elemental damage for free

[young forge]

Encore too

[scenic condor]

also spectro has no 2nd boss

neither does fusion

[young forge]

^

[young drift]

oh

.

true

[young forge]

rn Havoc and electro can get away with 4/4/1/1/1

[young drift]

ma first one

but I'll farm a couple more just in case it rolls bad

[young forge]

its basically simpler to build but below in dmg
unless perfect rolls where gap gets a bit less

[young drift]

yea

doing double crit havoc mc till I get the sword

then i'll start optimizing

[young forge]

its like how you can get away in genshin with really good ATK goublet for example

[scenic condor]

wait im actually 37 pulls in for yinlin

hmm

i dont remember rolling this much

yea i think i could get to pity easily

and lose it

[marble sapphire]

if it gives you any catharsis, i did lose my first 50/50

[scenic condor]

it does

but im sorry for your loss

i know it all too well

[marble sapphire]

well, it was Encore E1 which is a useful one...it could be worse

[glass galleon]

everywhere i go i see that smile

https://i.imgur.com/PLYF1rT.png

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ux4y1W7ja/?spm_id_from=333.1007.tianma.8-3-29.click&vd_source=58b0fdfdf9bd78a02a9de3ae52dbf747

[summer wedge]

just

[scenic condor]

wait someone

lied to me before

and said

that yinlin jp va

is kafka

when it's ont

not

yinlin jp va is beidou