#Wuthering Waves

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scenic condor
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it's 1.0

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what do u expect

young forge
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JUST YOU WAIT
SW GONNA RELEASE
FU XIAN GONNA RELASE
SPARKLE GONNA RELASE
AND WE WILL GET FULL MONOQUANTUM TEAM
AND ITS GONNA BE BEST TEAM IN THE GAME

nocturne tinsel
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finally cleared floor 3 of hazard both sides

young forge
nocturne tinsel
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strangely floor 3 was underwhelming

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I barely cleared floor 2 in time both sides

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and 3 I finished with almost 2 minutes to spare

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mono quantum has some great supports
its main issue is that its 2 damage dealers are boomer units

flint cargo
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Well I'm stuck at union level 36

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Won't do much until I get to 40

young forge
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everyone around 36

nocturne tinsel
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37 here gldge

young forge
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Zajef on no pull account with max refreshes was on 39 yest

nocturne tinsel
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havent logged in yet

flint cargo
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So I'm actually just stuck on 50/50 for gold echoes until 40 huh

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That kinda suck ngl

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My first crit rate molten

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Def hp

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Cool

young forge
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its ok
not like you have exp to get them to 25

flint cargo
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I didn't want to play today anw

young forge
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fkn 2 days of exp farm for 1 25 relic

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also JinJinx shout out imrivenous
based

flint cargo
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It also feel like shit spending stamina farming rn when you know they are fixing shit in 1.1

nocturne tinsel
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jinjinx has a knack for networking CCs together

young forge
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i was farming talent/weapon mats and ascending secondary units to 40/50

nocturne tinsel
glass galleon
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its really confusing

nocturne tinsel
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but we get the same amount from tacet fields

young forge
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they wanted to adjust exp in 1.1

glass galleon
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ive spoken with people who speak chinese

flint cargo
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Didn't they say they are fixing echoe exp?

young forge
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thats all

glass galleon
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and im getting mixed answers

nocturne tinsel
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I'm holding off on echoes stuff until we get patch notes just in case

flint cargo
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Everything just cost way too much

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To me

nocturne tinsel
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it costs about as much as in genshin

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the issue is more that we got access to 5* echoes way too early

candid loom
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I just hit 30

nocturne tinsel
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4*s should have unlocked at 30

young forge
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you are casul

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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and 5s at 40

vapid prairie
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I'm in the shell credits mines till tower reset or UL40. Whichever comes first. SofiDoIt

flint cargo
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Also I got cal from the lvl 35 rolls

candid loom
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Why keep us farming useless gear

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For longer

flint cargo
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But I have no mat

candid loom
flint cargo
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So he's benched

nocturne tinsel
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arti mald is supposed to be the final endgame push on stats

flint cargo
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I feel like I can't do cal shit on mobile anw

nocturne tinsel
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not the midgame

candid loom
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I’ll take my earlier 5*

vapid prairie
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No kidding. I built Cal to make fix a 3 second difference in ToA chamber 3 kleekicant

nocturne tinsel
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the amount of XP we get is balanced so that end game users will get them at the appropriate rate

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but we're 3 ascensions away from that

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and get far less rewards as a result

glass galleon
# flint cargo Didn't they say they are fixing echoe exp?

From version 1.1 and forward, the yield of Echoes and Echo development materials will be increased

在1.1及后续版本活动中,增加声骸以及声骸养成材料的奖励
Increase the rewards for Echoes and Echo Development Materials in 1.1 and subsequent versions of the event

flint cargo
nocturne tinsel
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and because of the echo system being overworld farmable, one of the knock on effects is that echo acquisition and echo XP had to be decoupled

glass galleon
nocturne tinsel
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(it also certainly doesn't help that the story content that would push us to UL 40 isnt in the game yet

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and likely won't hit there for a while

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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they're building it so that the proper experience when we get there in ~ a year will be adequately paced

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they 100% learned from genshin's mistake there

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but they're paying the cost super hard right now

ocean pivot
young forge
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you can name them what ever

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its constelations

zealous grove
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Sequence is better PotatoBrain

nocturne tinsel
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genshin tried to do the same thing, but with inazuma region lock + only having a AR cap of 60, they hit a point where the intended experience for story was pushing AR 50 but they couldn't realistically push that on new players, who just flat out would not be able to farm the units mhy was selling

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nor did they have the setup that games like langrisser had where early units just flat out were better until you hit late game combined with frequent selector reruns

ocean pivot
candid loom
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Still bouken da bouken

vapid prairie
nocturne tinsel
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1.0 units are a mixed bag
all of them suffer from devs not knowing what they were doing

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some of them missed high like bennet/xq

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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some of them missed way low

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like chongyun

ocean pivot
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👍 boken PotatoBrain2

candid loom
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Venti

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Fish

young forge
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ppl dont care for gear

vapid prairie
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Don't worry. Bennet was balanced by the fact that you couldn't use him if you sent him in expeditions in 1.0

candid loom
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Guys if casuals are in Fontaine alrdy what does that make me

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Stuck in Sumeru

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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she wasnt

candid loom
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So was Diluc

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They absolutely were

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lmao

young forge
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Ning was always bad

vapid prairie
young forge
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ppl jsut had no gear to notice how bad

nocturne tinsel
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diluc was only good because people didnt know how to sheet

candid loom
young forge
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Calchado is diluc of WuWa

candid loom
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Oh, spreadsheet

young forge
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trust

candid loom
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Didn’t Ariel say hes getting crept alrdy

nocturne tinsel
vapid prairie
young forge
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in same place where day one rerollers

ocean pivot
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Need memes of calcharo as sepiroth batbrain

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"Did Calcharo do this?"

candid loom
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Seph-who-roth

young forge
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the blond guy from most overrated jrpg

vapid prairie
candid loom
nocturne tinsel
young forge
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ff7

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
scenic condor
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letsgo

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hmc has a sword

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😄

ocean pivot
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Calcharo has stigmata from d grayman, he is a noah PotatoBrain2

nocturne tinsel
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lessgo

candid loom
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Wtf

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Ariel whaling again

glass galleon
young forge
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now get gun for chixia and you set Ariel

glass galleon
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apparently chixia bis is the battle pass gun

candid loom
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Using Chixia

vapid prairie
candid loom
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I will not use Paimon expy

scenic condor
young forge
glass galleon
scenic condor
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i skipped the 80pull character banner guarantee

glass galleon
scenic condor
candid loom
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Imejin skipping that

glass galleon
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yeah but laziness

scenic condor
candid loom
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Liar

scenic condor
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and dupes are doodoo

candid loom
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U need another Jianxin

weak jay
candid loom
scenic condor
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wdym another

weak jay
scenic condor
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this account is jx free tyvm

nocturne tinsel
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honestly? skipping the selector isnt a terrible idea

candid loom
young forge
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Ariel gonna hold standart target banner untill they add new tighnari

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in the game

scenic condor
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i dont think they will update the pool

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for the guarantee one

candid loom
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Watch them not allow Tighnari expy to be in the pool

scenic condor
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thats a separate banner from regular standard

young forge
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they get Jianxin

nocturne tinsel
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bc who knows how long verina will remain uncontested as a generalist support

scenic condor
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the selector is bait for now

scenic condor
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i can get better mileage out of good weapons

candid loom
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U alrdy know she will remain op for at least the current + next patch

nocturne tinsel
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save the selector until you know who you want

young forge
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inbefore Chagli is support

candid loom
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The longer u wait, the more useless the selector is

scenic condor
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imo verina is worth to pull

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with the selector

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cuz even shes powercrept

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we have more teams

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so she can still have a spot

ocean pivot
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You're my support fatrisa

scenic condor
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we barely have any global outros that last thru swaps

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she will only die if we get 3 more

nocturne tinsel
scenic condor
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who are better

scenic condor
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SWAPS

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bro

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dont forget swaps

candid loom
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How can she be dethroned

scenic condor
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yes the specific deepens are stronger

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but they all lost on swap

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look at a char like calcharo

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nobody can support him like verina right now

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cuz everybody else's buff drops off

nocturne tinsel
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that is the one place where verina shines
she allows you to swap farm

scenic condor
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except baizhi ig but her buff is too short

scenic condor
nocturne tinsel
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baizhi's is longer than verinas

bright apex
zealous grove
vapid prairie
scenic condor
young forge
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Fusion and Spectre

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as expected

candid loom
young forge
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Leaks

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posted

candid loom
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Holy shit

scenic condor
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yeah 15% all dmg deepen for 30s for the team

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on her outro

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for the TEAM

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not just the next char

candid loom
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Thats cray

young forge
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and atk buff

scenic condor
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so free swaps anytime

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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30s is a very long time

vapid prairie
young forge
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its mostly cos elements confirmed

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I NEED HER KIT

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NOW

candid loom
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Elements don’t rlly matter in this game anyway

young forge
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thats why i need kit

scenic condor
last nest
scenic condor
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oh

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this lasts thru swaps??,

nocturne tinsel
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this triggers off the healing

scenic condor
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it says "next" character

glass galleon
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chinese youtube is just that 1 image

scenic condor
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i thought it only applied to the next character

glass galleon
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over and over

scenic condor
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again with the shit wording

nocturne tinsel
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the buff remains on that character

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even through swaps

scenic condor
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so then it's not teamwide

young forge
scenic condor
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it's just ONE character

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the next one

nocturne tinsel
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not teamwide but swap proof

scenic condor
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and if u swap off, that char wont get it?

scenic condor
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cause same value

last nest
young forge
scenic condor
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3s more duration but like who tf needs a 33s buff

young forge
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applies on heal to current unit

scenic condor
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but unlike verina it wont give to team

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so a team like cal yinlin

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wont enjoy the buff

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for yinlin

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and verina is clearly the better choice for that

nocturne tinsel
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baizhi is definitely walmart verina

candid loom
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Nah I’m with Atilla on this one

scenic condor
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and most teams roll with dps, subdps, support

candid loom
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Mommy > Loli

last nest
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Well she is a 5 star, makes sense to be better

scenic condor
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yeah

vapid prairie
scenic condor
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but okay this makes baizhi better

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i thought it dropped off

scenic condor
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same as verina

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verina does it for team, baizhi does it for 1 unit

last nest
scenic condor
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thats the difference

scenic condor
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yinlin has obscene damage she just has low field time needs

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sanhua damage also very competitive

glass galleon
scenic condor
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but low field time

glass galleon
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abort. skip yinlin peepo_salute

scenic condor
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thats what i mean by subdps

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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Atilla… c4 Encore

last nest
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Imagine having c6 chixia

candid loom
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Whale talk

glass galleon
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people in this thread

nocturne tinsel
glass galleon
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"BUT YINLIN CAN BE MAIN DPS AT S6"

vapid prairie
glass galleon
young forge
nocturne tinsel
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I used double selector on encore pushing for her c2

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and can buy 2 more in shop later

nocturne tinsel
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am 80% to first one

last nest
candid loom
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Bricked acc

glass galleon
# young forge wdym pit

basically saying shes not worth it since her only main dps will be calcharo for a long time

nocturne tinsel
nocturne tinsel
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and in terms of longevity encore has the best cons

candid loom
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Bad

young forge
candid loom
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Thats how u get bored and quit

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By having one comp to use

glass galleon
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dot teams in hsr knew kafka was coming out

young forge
glass galleon
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theres nothing like that for lightning atm

last nest
scenic condor
vapid prairie
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I picked Lingyang for both my selectors to trick desire sensors into thinking that I want him when I lose 50/50. clueless

young forge
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idk

nocturne tinsel
young forge
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looks like brainrot

candid loom
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Yinlin is hot

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Me pull

last nest
candid loom
nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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“DoT can’t 0-cycle”

candid loom
young forge
candid loom
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If it wasn’t Yinlin on banner I’d skip

vapid prairie
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Taoqillion damage

young forge
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Taoqi Bell SU stonks

candid loom
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I don’t believe in this vertical investment of snake oil

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That you’re toting

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Atilla

last nest
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I think I'll go for 50/50 on yinlin banner. Should still be able to guranty Jinhsi in 1.1

young forge
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Vertical invemstent is fine but less fun

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esp when when you can get bored from dps

candid loom
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Precisely my point

young forge
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look how ppl hyped Arleccino was cos ppl was "free of Hu Tao"

vapid prairie
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I have guarantee saved by pulling Jianxin under 30 on Jiyan. I wanted Danjin and still don't have her fofoThumb

last nest
candid loom
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||I have Danjin||

last nest
candid loom
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Building pity is valid

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You either sacc the rate-up which is a win, or you lose 50/50 early which is still a win

last nest
candid loom
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It’s same as jenshit

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Whatever that rate is

vapid prairie
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0.8

last nest
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0.8. I did 80 pulls on starter banners already. Statiscitly it's 80 percent chance to get a 5 star in next 20 pulls

nocturne tinsel
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building pity is only fine in early account development when you don't know what you want

within a month or 2 you should know exactly what you want from your account and only roll on things that progress you towards that

candid loom
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It’s higher because of soft pity

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Building pity isn’t for when you’re close to soft pity kleekicant

nocturne tinsel
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whether it be specific weapons, specific 5*s or even specific 4*s

last nest
# candid loom Nope

idk, I am bad at math. But I do know that I got spooked buy Yae before when trying to get Faruzan

nocturne tinsel
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if you find yourself in a situation where you can realistically lose by rolling on the banner

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dont roll on that banner

candid loom
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There is no L

last nest
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But I had to get faruzan

nocturne tinsel
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I want c4 chixia, but do not want c1 jiyan

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so I'm waiting for yinlin banner to come so I can pop pity there

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and bc the banners overlap

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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once pity is popped I can pursue c4 chixia again

vapid prairie
nocturne tinsel
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I would love that

candid loom
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U either were up to soft pity and wasted it, or had pulled on too many banners and didn’t have enough of a stock

last nest
candid loom
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HSR ppl kept telling me my planning sucked when I lost all my 50/50’s to Yanqing

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Going to soft pity on each

nocturne tinsel
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just plan better then

candid loom
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And then those same ppl dab on me with winning 50/50 and saccing

vapid prairie
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Btw Atilla. Which standard 5* between the sword, pistol, and rectifier is the best one?

candid loom
last nest
nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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Overall best is sword

nocturne tinsel
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pistol is uniquely good, but stringmaster is coming out in a day

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and is some serious competition

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since you can change your selector without losing pity, just roll for whichever one you want right now

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and if that changes before you get it

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just... change the selector

candid loom
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I’m changing Atilla’s name

vapid prairie
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Yeah. But I got the two I'm gonna use batbrain. gaunlet and broadblade. Just considering what to pick for the UL45 selector

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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Back to used QQ salesman

nocturne tinsel
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no

candid loom
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Yes

nocturne tinsel
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used chixia salesman

candid loom
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Lmao

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Selling Chixia is a very Atilla move

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Tru

vapid prairie
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Meanwhile Ariel and unused Chixia

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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my hope is that changli is a teamwide fusion deepen buffer

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so that encore chixia can pop off

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it's something we'll get eventually, but idk how long it'll take

vapid prairie
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Kuro pls increase Intimacy XP so I can get Changli to level 5 day 1 SofiDoIt

nocturne tinsel
vapid prairie
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I'm not but anyone here saving for Camellya?

candid loom
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I might

last nest
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I want her and Jinshi.

candid loom
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I skip Jinshi

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Not a fan of white eyebrows

scenic condor
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idk if they wanna make elements relevant beyond sets

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but if they do they better make ele% deepen teamwide

flint cargo
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Sus leak Jinhsi spectro

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Changli fusion

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Jinhsi use sword

scenic condor
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thats why i said dont believe the drip color

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she makes sense to be spectro

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we only have verina and mc

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only ele we lack a dps for

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and shes all like holy bitch

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so makes even more sense to be light

flint cargo
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Supposedly jinhsi main dps changli sub dps

scenic condor
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yeah

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checks out

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jinshi to open up spectro dps comp

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and changli to have a swap mate for encore

candid loom
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I use Spectro mc as sub dps

scenic condor
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smc is great

candid loom
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For my TAOQI

scenic condor
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very verstaile

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with healer set even

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with s4

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just dps but healer set

candid loom
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I don’t have s4

scenic condor
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ugh

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lazy fk

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smh

candid loom
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Yeah yeah

flint cargo
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HMC do way too much damage

candid loom
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Gotta study

candid loom
scenic condor
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it all depends on what dmg jinshi does

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so we can do jinshi + buffer + smc as the healer set proccer

nocturne tinsel
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its called biker

scenic condor
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okay but

candid loom
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Atilla selling Chixia again

scenic condor
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changli i assume will be pyro yinlin

nocturne tinsel
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not chixia

candid loom
scenic condor
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buffing pyro dmg

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or whatever

nocturne tinsel
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any biker unit

scenic condor
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FUSION

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sorry

candid loom
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Owned

nocturne tinsel
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yes including chixia

candid loom
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Still selling her then

nocturne tinsel
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but unironically I could see fusion dmg% biker verina being correct in some team

nocturne tinsel
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there are 3 echoes that are basically characters in and of themselves

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dreamless
biker
turtle

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and to a lesser extent mech abomination

candid loom
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Wow no mention of our beloved ape

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🦍

nocturne tinsel
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ape worse than cyan heron

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:majj:

candid loom
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Lampylumen

nocturne tinsel
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lampylumen is ok but doesnt have full teams that can exploit them like the others

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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mech abomination in the right content has the single highest scaling in the game

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beating out HMC and chixia ults

candid loom
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Define right content

nocturne tinsel
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that requires you to somehow fit 12 enemies into the AOE
but even a more reasonable 5 in aoe content is 839.96% scaling

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it has 3 hits
start hit which is a laughable 34.96% scaling
the actual hit which is 230%
and the status afterburn which hits 115% in a pretty reasonable AOE

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and its on each thing hit, so it has quadratic scaling

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there are actually people running tune calch to have abomination in jianxin calch teams

candid loom
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Idk what any of that means

candid loom
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Specifically

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Too ignorant to the tc teamcomps

nocturne tinsel
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ok so you use jianxin grouping from her ult, then you immediately swap in calch to use mech abomination

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and then do the standard calch stuff (no swap bc its a DPS loss with jianxin deepen)

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so na3dna2>slamx3

vapid prairie
nocturne tinsel
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beautiful

candid loom
nocturne tinsel
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because lingering tunes isnt the ER set

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and in this build you need a metric ton of ER on jianxin

candid loom
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Great

nocturne tinsel
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which means her offensive stats are gonna be ass

candid loom
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He’s shilling Favge again

nocturne tinsel
candid loom
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My god

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That emoji is so cursed

nocturne tinsel
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what did you expect favge to look like?

candid loom
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More zoomed in

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So it actually has a head

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And isn’t a disembodied face

vapid prairie
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Wish she had energy regen as her stats in skill tree so I don't have to care. Slep

vapid prairie
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5* gauntlets give 12.8% batbrain

nocturne tinsel
vapid prairie
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I'll lessen the need for ER when I get her S2 trust FireflyCopium

nocturne tinsel
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got these from BP

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time to post the real gacha of the game

quasi moth
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noice

nocturne tinsel
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the other 3 were 4 stars

quasi moth
nocturne tinsel
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gonna save the rest I earn till UL 40

quasi moth
scenic condor
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so basically succ a ton of shit together with jx and plomp abom on them and boom qUaDrAtIc sCaLiNg

north venture
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genshin buzzwords

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my favorite buzzwords

candid loom
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Idk why he uses the word quadratic

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It’s not technically quadratic

scenic condor
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it is

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the damage scales with the numbers of enemies

candid loom
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Quadratic is ax^2 + bx + c

candid loom
scenic condor
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It means that the damage scales with x²

candid loom
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Damage x number of enemies

scenic condor
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thats quadratic

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same as ganyu ayato burst etc

candid loom
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You just take the entire damage formula and add an extra value to it

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“# of enemies hit”

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There’s no squaring

scenic condor
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but

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but

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thats what zajef told me

candid loom
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Zajef is a fool

scenic condor
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but thats what atilla told me too

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everybody is a fool

candid loom
#

Atilla is also a fool

scenic condor
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who can i trust

candid loom
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But we love him

vocal ginkgo
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So do we trust the toilectcrafter or a content creator

candid loom
scenic condor
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i cant trust a seele coper

candid loom
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Bro

vocal ginkgo
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Id put money on cc

scenic condor
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ur judgement is off

candid loom
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I have an A+ in calculus

scenic condor
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smh

candid loom
scenic condor
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is calculus code for seele simpery?

candid loom
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No

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Calculus is real calculus

scenic condor
#

what if atilla also has a+ in calculus?

candid loom
#

Then he should know better

scenic condor
#

then you both have the same credentials

candid loom
north venture
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just be a math major

scenic condor
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anyway idk shit about math

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and i dont care for math

candid loom
#

Well

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I just explained it to you

scenic condor
#

and im an economist working in finance

candid loom
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Btw

scenic condor
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but thank god for excel

candid loom
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I almost failed microeconomics but got an A+ in calc

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How does that work

scenic condor
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fuck micro

candid loom
scenic condor
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fuck macro too

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dumbass filter classes

candid loom
#

B+ in statistics cuz fk their formulas

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Calculus is the purest science

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My calc teacher showed me how to draw flowers

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On a graphing calculator

scenic condor
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honestly im just too stupid for most things

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also adhd

candid loom
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Same

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Also same

scenic condor
#

which makes studying extremely hard

candid loom
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I feel u

scenic condor
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so idk how u did it

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but i feel very stupid most of the time

candid loom
scenic condor
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and my only skill is parroting what others told me

candid loom
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I just knew it that well

scenic condor
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cuz my memory is excellent

candid loom
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But then I got depression

scenic condor
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and thats all i can show

candid loom
#

And lost all my memory

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😢

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Now I’m a coper

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Be blessed that you still have yours

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And didn’t degenerate into a potato like me

vocal ginkgo
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Be a h.s science teacher

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Ur math doesn't go past algebra 1 kleekicant

north venture
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idk my hs science class definitely used calculus

vocal ginkgo
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poggies ur in a school where students can mathhhh

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That's admirable

scenic condor
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someone the other asked me what im good at

vocal ginkgo
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Mine can't read a clock or relate a clock to fraction

scenic condor
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and i couldnt say anything

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cuz like....memorizing gacha game rotations

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hardly a skill i can boast about

young forge
scenic condor
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im not reading that

young forge
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tene being pedantic

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tldr

vocal ginkgo
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I can spin that easy, I love putting 120% in things I do. I'll do as much research as I can and I'm am very attentive to the most minute of details

young forge
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aka yesnt

vocal ginkgo
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What is it that u do?

scenic condor
#

what

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so it IS quadratic?

young forge
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proper term is quadratic growth

vocal ginkgo
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I spend a ton of time malding in video games to get into the top 1%

scenic condor
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@candid loom

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explain yourself

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1min calculus teacher failed me

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WE SAW THAT AIUR

north venture
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lmao

young forge
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saw what

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dont make me open modlog

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pls

vocal ginkgo
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It's nothing

vocal ginkgo
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Tene proved his toiletcrafting again, was what I deleted

young forge
#

ive already found deleted msg

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yeah

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making me mod

vocal ginkgo
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Idk i felt I was riffing on my sensei too much KEKHands

young forge
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smh

vocal ginkgo
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He needs a break from being wrong all the time Pain

vocal ginkgo
scenic condor
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your explanation as to why u removed the riff on ur sensei is a bigger riff than the riff u removed

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u dumdum

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riffception

vocal ginkgo
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What can u do when u have a cadet like me

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Only 1 braincell

young forge
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i was inoris cadet

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so nothing of value was lost

candid loom
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The damage isn’t squared

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It’s multiplied by x number of enemies

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Damage x Enemies is not x^2

young forge
#

no
cos its aoe damage
so 3 units will do 9 times damage of single target

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cos each one will hit other 2

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thats the reason morgana in genshin was so busted

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you press venti ult and those 9 hilis each get icle droped on them
and it aoes rest 8

candid loom
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Thats damage x number of hilichurls

young forge
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and thats for each enemy in vortex

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it AOES rest of them

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3 units get droped 3 aoes on them stending next to each other
results in each of them taking triple damage from that cast

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you are not caped by 1 instance per target

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x squared

candid loom
#

Okay lets math this out. So you have an attack that does AoE 3 times. If you hit one enemy 3 times or 3 enemies present on map but only hit each one one time each, then it is 3 AoE damage x 1
If we math it like your scenario where the AoEs stack on 9 hilichurls, then it is 3 AoE’s x 9 hilichurls hit by each AoE which is 9x damage. But what if there’s 8? The damage would then be 3 AoEs x 8 hilichurls hit by each.
You’re always multiplying by the number of enemies hit by each AoE

young forge
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eat does aoe X times

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where aoe is amoun of enemies

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targeted

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so 8 hilis will make 8 aoes

candid loom
#

Yeah thats Ganyu’s ult

young forge
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and its quadratic

candid loom
#

Its quadratic in that case because the number of enemies determines the number of AoEs

scenic condor
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aaah i get it now

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it's bc when they get hit

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the impact does a smol aoe

candid loom
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Yes

scenic condor
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so then why u said it wasnt quadratic

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when it is

young forge
#

each aoe tick does 100 damage
there is 3 enemies next to eachother
each generates aoe
3 aoes from each enemy on 3 targets is 900 damage per TICK
not 300

scenic condor
#

this is the same thing i copied from da internet

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xd

candid loom
scenic condor
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and the same thing zajef said

candid loom
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Which in Ganyu’s case it does

scenic condor
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and it does in the case of mech abom

young forge
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as i said tene being pedantic

candid loom
scenic condor
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excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.

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learned a new word today

young forge
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made me open paint

candid loom
#

Yes

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Painttt

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But what I’m saying is

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There’s two types of AoEs

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The Ganyu style quadratic shit

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Which is truly quadratic

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And attacks which just do set numbers of AoEs regardless of enemy number

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Which is basic multiplicative

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Multiplicative: # AoEs x # Enemies
Quadratic: same thing but # AoEs = # Enemies

young forge
#

but skill in question was MechAbom

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who is quadratic

candid loom
#

Reading issue

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SV server moment

young forge
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do not read
argue semantics
????
+50 messages of wothless arguing

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classic

candid loom
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Waza do u have the game open, I’ve never read Mech Abom’s skill

young forge
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i dont have it open no

candid loom
#

Shit

young forge
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i have better game opened

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Balatro

candid loom
#

@scenic condor help

young forge
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your favorite site has it

candid loom
#

Lets read Mech Abom together

young forge
#

pridewin

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sec

candid loom
#

Oh yes

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Pridewin KEKW

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My fav

young forge
candid loom
#

So the last bit

young forge
#

basically explode works like a timebomb

candid loom
#

The explosion part

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Is quadratic

young forge
#

yes

candid loom
#

But the rest is not

young forge
#

so hitting pack of enemies with Jianxin ult into mech

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is boom

candid loom
#

Yeeeee

young forge
#

like venti + goat

candid loom
#

@scenic condor

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Come back

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Bb

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Come laugh at my lack of reading skill

young forge
#

i know cos i used it in Tower

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i was running HMC Dangin with dreamless and Jianxin with mech

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to aoe group to shreds

candid loom
#

What Dreamless do

young forge
#

dis

candid loom
#

Seele ult?

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Kek

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Or wait

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Keqing ult

young forge
#

Kekinq ult

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yes

candid loom
#

Op

young forge
#

and Havoc MC ult boosts EVERY Dreamless cast for next 5 secs by 50%

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not only MCs

candid loom
#

Wtf

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So u run 2 dreamless

young forge
candid loom
#

And HMC boost both

young forge
#

or run Taoqi and run 3rd one

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yes

candid loom
#

Damn

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That’s op

young forge
#

thats basically nuke comp

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yes

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and HMC ult itself does shit ton

candid loom
#

Yeah I like that both element mc are nuke

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With ults

candid loom
young forge
#

and Jianxin gives ult pen

candid loom
#

That’s Havoc right

young forge
#

as lat option

#

yes

candid loom
#

What’s Spectro’s

young forge
#

2hit

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440 total

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so almost twice less

candid loom
#

Damn

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Havoc MC truly op

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is it an AoE ult as well?

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HMC’s?

young forge
#

yes

candid loom
#

Op af

young forge
candid loom
#

And this is free unit lmao

young forge
#

and danjin can buff too

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for onfield

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while no nuke

young forge
candid loom
young forge
#

for onfielding

north venture
#

did you know

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smc has healing in her kit

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i didnt

candid loom
young forge
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so you can either MC or Danjin onfield

candid loom
#

So the cooldown on Dreamless is longer than the time it takes to refresh HMC’s havoc outro buff?

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So u can still buff both

young forge
#

dreamless buff is 50% for 5

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with quickswap it dosent matter

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but cd is like

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20

candid loom
#

Oh wait

young forge
#

so you left for 15 secods

candid loom
#

It’s a buff Dreamless gives

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I see

young forge
#

yes

candid loom
#

Reading issue again KEKW

young forge
#

rn Meta comp is either danjin but its a bit clunky cos both HMC and Danjin want onfield you have

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or Encore

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cos encore can be quickswapy

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and abuse just one dreamless

scenic condor
candid loom
#

Well

scenic condor
#

and then u went on about calculus a+

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and it made it clear to me that u didnt actually know what mech abom did

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so i went with it

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and had some fun

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thank you for the entertainment

candid loom
#

Nothing I said was incorrect, just wasn’t correct from the context of mech which I failed to acknowledge before lecture time KEKW

young forge
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thats why i said pedantic

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and that answer who is right is

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yesnt

candid loom
#

Yes

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Ah well

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Ppl had a laugh

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I’m glad

scenic condor
candid loom
#

@scenic condor A+ calculus me was also 10 years ago KEKW

young forge
#

at least you didnt see me backreading that

candid loom
#

I haven’t used it since

scenic condor
#

making a fool out of you was 10 minutes ago

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i win

young forge
#

and facepalming

young forge
#

before ive posted wiki page

candid loom
#

Man

scenic condor
#

anyway

candid loom
#

I’m a goof

scenic condor
#

now go learn calcharo rotas

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with the same passion

north venture
#

ill learn how to do more damage in this game later tbh

#

rn im too busy being shit on

young forge
candid loom
young forge
scenic condor
north venture
#

u see

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i dont do damage rn

candid loom
north venture
#

bc i keep dying

candid loom
#

Cuz Taoqi my beloved

scenic condor
#

dodge issue huh

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then just wait till wuwa gets a zhongli (which i hope we never get)

candid loom
young forge
scenic condor
#

tene the taoqi salesman now?

north venture
#

if we get a zhongli im never rolling

young forge
#

its Wallmart Rita

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and reason he is here

candid loom
scenic condor
#

i stand by the fact that jx is poo

candid loom
#

Then healing her up

scenic condor
#

solely cause her concerto stacking is too slow

candid loom
#

Instead of dodging

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35% dmg reduction + full def build is goodge

young forge
#

you shouldve seen him crumble and say fuck... in hsr chat when as reason to play WuWa ive posted him this

north venture
young forge
#

way back before release

#

we both know why he is here

candid loom
#

Aiur and selym called it from day 1

#

Bangs covering one eye = I simp

young forge
#

you did full story?

candid loom
#

Yes I’ve finished main story if Dreamless fight is the last part

young forge
#

yeah

candid loom
#

Ok then yeah

young forge
#

its also ez to farm btw

#

cos it drops from 40 lvl boss same as from 60

#

droprate wise

#

so just oneshot 40 boss

candid loom
#

Which

young forge
#

and leave

candid loom
#

The 5*?

#

Wow

young forge
#

5* depends on your bank

candid loom
#

Well I’m only bank lvl 11

young forge
#

boss level changes only stamina claimable loot

candid loom
#

But I have lots to obtain still

scenic condor
#

major sleepge

candid loom
young forge
#

echo droprate tied to Databank

scenic condor
#

sleeeepgeeee

young forge
#

Camellya rumored to be havoc @candid loom
and might be better then Danjin for Dreamless comps

candid loom
young forge
#

probably will

scenic condor
#

wheres a man

#

truly

#

all i see is fkin females

young forge
#

how do we tell him Ariel

scenic condor
#

in the upcoming ones

young forge
#

abot drop rates

scenic condor
#

oh dear lord

candid loom
scenic condor
#

it's never gonna be 100%

candid loom
#

Did I just get lucky or what

young forge
#

litirally tene

scenic condor
#

80/20 is the best you get

#

at db19

candid loom
#

Every boss I’ve killed so far has dropped an echo for me

scenic condor
candid loom
#

So it looks like 100

candid loom
north venture
#

u get 15 guaranteed boss drops a week

#

or close to it

scenic condor
#

we get 15 boss drops per week

#

in total

north venture
#

i think

candid loom
young forge
#

there is echo droprate
and rarity droprate

scenic condor
#

and thats it

candid loom
#

I haven’t gone over 15 yet

north venture
#

after that its a crapshoot 3dlmao

young forge
candid loom
#

So top prio should be 15 data bank

young forge
#

yeah

north venture
#

ye

candid loom
#

Then farm 5* echo

young forge
#

cos 18-20 locked

#

anyway

#

behind AR40

candid loom
#

Ah

scenic condor
#

19-20 is locked behind ar40

candid loom
#

Makes sense

#

Ok I’ve found new purpose

#

Mono-Havoc

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I’ll make Ariel proud