#Wuthering Waves
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JUST YOU WAIT
SW GONNA RELEASE
FU XIAN GONNA RELASE
SPARKLE GONNA RELASE
AND WE WILL GET FULL MONOQUANTUM TEAM
AND ITS GONNA BE BEST TEAM IN THE GAME
finally cleared floor 3 of hazard both sides

strangely floor 3 was underwhelming
I barely cleared floor 2 in time both sides
and 3 I finished with almost 2 minutes to spare
mono quantum has some great supports
its main issue is that its 2 damage dealers are boomer units
everyone around 36
37 here 
Zajef on no pull account with max refreshes was on 39 yest
havent logged in yet
So I'm actually just stuck on 50/50 for gold echoes until 40 huh
That kinda suck ngl
My first crit rate molten
Def hp
Cool
I didn't want to play today anw
It also feel like shit spending stamina farming rn when you know they are fixing shit in 1.1
jinjinx has a knack for networking CCs together
i was farming talent/weapon mats and ascending secondary units to 40/50
They arent
we get more of the relic stuff from events in 1.1
its really confusing
but we get the same amount from tacet fields
they wanted to adjust exp in 1.1
ive spoken with people who speak chinese
Didn't they say they are fixing echoe exp?
thats all
and im getting mixed answers
I'm holding off on echoes stuff until we get patch notes just in case
it costs about as much as in genshin
the issue is more that we got access to 5* echoes way too early
4*s should have unlocked at 30
you are casul

and 5s at 40
I'm in the shell credits mines till tower reset or UL40. Whichever comes first. 
Its never too early
Also I got cal from the lvl 35 rolls
But I have no mat

So he's benched
arti mald is supposed to be the final endgame push on stats
I feel like I can't do cal shit on mobile anw
not the midgame
No kidding. I built Cal to make fix a 3 second difference in ToA chamber 3 
the amount of XP we get is balanced so that end game users will get them at the appropriate rate
but we're 3 ascensions away from that
and get far less rewards as a result
From version 1.1 and forward, the yield of Echoes and Echo development materials will be increased
在1.1及后续版本活动中,增加声骸以及声骸养成材料的奖励
Increase the rewards for Echoes and Echo Development Materials in 1.1 and subsequent versions of the event


and because of the echo system being overworld farmable, one of the knock on effects is that echo acquisition and echo XP had to be decoupled
(it also certainly doesn't help that the story content that would push us to UL 40 isnt in the game yet
and likely won't hit there for a while
It’s almost like you’re not supposed to be UL40 this quickly

they're building it so that the proper experience when we get there in ~ a year will be adequately paced
they 100% learned from genshin's mistake there
but they're paying the cost super hard right now

Sequence is better 
genshin tried to do the same thing, but with inazuma region lock + only having a AR cap of 60, they hit a point where the intended experience for story was pushing AR 50 but they couldn't realistically push that on new players, who just flat out would not be able to farm the units mhy was selling
nor did they have the setup that games like langrisser had where early units just flat out were better until you hit late game combined with frequent selector reruns
You're better
They did tho, look at Benny

Still bouken da bouken
Nah. It should be an extra star per extra copy like the good old days. Proud of my 10 star Chixia 
1.0 units are a mixed bag
all of them suffer from devs not knowing what they were doing
some of them missed high like bennet/xq

XL
👍 boken 
casuals rn still in lvl 8 purples in fountane
ppl dont care for gear
Don't worry. Bennet was balanced by the fact that you couldn't use him if you sent him in expeditions in 1.0
razor
kaeya
diluc
AmBeR
ningguang
Ning was good in 1.0
she wasnt
Ning was always bad
Fontaine access is given to new players at AR25. Literally a waypoint unlock directly there
ppl jsut had no gear to notice how bad
diluc was only good because people didnt know how to sheet
They didn’t know how to shit?
Calchado is diluc of WuWa
He kinda is
Didn’t Ariel say hes getting crept alrdy
idp on how useful his swap cancel tech will be at keeping units farmed
Where vid of someone spending 2k on Calcharo 
in same place where day one rerollers
Seph-who-roth
the blond guy from most overrated jrpg
Sadly Calcharo's Aerith Pogo spam got nerfed
FF14?
the one winged angel that isn't arelecchino
ff7


Calcharo has stigmata from d grayman, he is a noah 
lessgo
now get 2 more
now get gun for chixia and you set Ariel
apparently chixia bis is the battle pass gun
Fake pic. Where's Chixia in 10 roll?
I will not use Paimon expy
why two more?
chixia is XL/QQ of this game
it was all standard pulls that were given
i skipped the 80pull character banner guarantee
for danjia and sanhua 👏
Ah
they arent in the same team anyway
Imejin skipping that
yeah but laziness
i have everybody i need
Liar
and dupes are doodoo
U need another Jianxin
friend is more cute


this account is jx free tyvm
honestly? skipping the selector isnt a terrible idea
Not for long!
Watch them not allow Tighnari expy to be in the pool
thats a separate banner from regular standard
they get Jianxin
bc who knows how long verina will remain uncontested as a generalist support
the selector is bait for now
This is backwards thinking
i can get better mileage out of good weapons
save the selector until you know who you want
The longer u wait, the more useless the selector is
imo verina is worth to pull
with the selector
cuz even shes powercrept
we have more teams
so she can still have a spot
You're my support 
we barely have any global outros that last thru swaps
she will only die if we get 3 more
she's already somewhat falling off her throne as people are finding that specialized supports are actually just better than general supports in their specific teams
who are better
again
SWAPS
bro
dont forget swaps
The character pool is barren
How can she be dethroned

yes the specific deepens are stronger
but they all lost on swap
look at a char like calcharo
nobody can support him like verina right now
cuz everybody else's buff drops off
that is the one place where verina shines
she allows you to swap farm
except baizhi ig but her buff is too short
the "one" place. the game is about swaps
baizhi's is longer than verinas
It should be referring to event rewards

You only have one Verina to use when you need 3 teams for ToA 
no? baizhi's is 6s verina's is 30s
30???
Holy shit
yeah 15% all dmg deepen for 30s for the team
on her outro
for the TEAM
not just the next char
Thats cray
and atk buff
so free swaps anytime
baizhis is 10% for 33s
30s is a very long time
Damn. Bricked account with Lingyang 
thats why i need kit
where. what. what are you talking about
Prob soon if the above leak is true
this triggers off the healing
it says "next" character
chinese youtube is just that 1 image
i thought it only applied to the next character
over and over
again with the shit wording
so then it's not teamwide
learnd from the best
aka hoyogames
not teamwide but swap proof
and if u swap off, that char wont get it?
okay but then still worse than verina
cause same value
Have to level it up and start learning from yugioh instead
its like baizhu buff
3s more duration but like who tf needs a 33s buff
applies on heal to current unit
but unlike verina it wont give to team
so a team like cal yinlin
wont enjoy the buff
for yinlin
and verina is clearly the better choice for that
baizhi is definitely walmart verina
Nah I’m with Atilla on this one
and most teams roll with dps, subdps, support
Mommy > Loli
Well she is a 5 star, makes sense to be better
yeah
Isn't it 15%?
it's 15 yes
same as verina
verina does it for team, baizhi does it for 1 unit
I've heard from CN that 2 dps might be better than 1 dps 1 sub dps
thats the difference
"subdps" is just as much of a dps. subdps just means they require less field time
yinlin has obscene damage she just has low field time needs
sanhua damage also very competitive
but low field time
abort. skip yinlin 
thats what i mean by subdps
I agree here and will be building for chixia encore bc they play together very nicely and also buff eachother once c4 encore c6 chixia
Imagine having c6 chixia
Whale talk
people in this thread
I'm talking this as a bp welkin
"BUT YINLIN CAN BE MAIN DPS AT S6"
Save up coral

wdym pit
I used double selector on encore pushing for her c2
and can buy 2 more in shop later
am 80% to first one
Well long term...I have c6 diluc so it's prob not that impossible
Bricked acc
basically saying shes not worth it since her only main dps will be calcharo for a long time
vertical investment>horizontal investment
No
and in terms of longevity encore has the best cons
Bad
ah yes
ppl who doomposted FuA and DoT teams in hsr
dot teams in hsr knew kafka was coming out
unbased
theres nothing like that for lightning atm
Virgin calcharo main vs chad Yuanwu user
which is stupid. cause yinlin's strenght is having great damage paired with very low field needs. shes a perfect 2nd slot in any team that doesnt rely on a specific deepen outro. her outro being electro dmg wont matter THAT much cause it also wont last thru swaps (unless they change that) so it will only buff 1/3rd of calcharos rotation
I picked Lingyang for both my selectors to trick desire sensors into thinking that I want him when I lose 50/50. 
no ppl complained after kafka cos no supports till Swan
and Yinlin still offfield dmg
idk

looks like brainrot
And than they complained that "dot slow"

we both know you're really pulling for walmart rita
“DoT can’t 0-cycle”
I alrdy have her
but he already has Taoqi

If it wasn’t Yinlin on banner I’d skip
Taoqillion damage
I don’t believe in this vertical investment of snake oil
That you’re toting
Atilla
I think I'll go for 50/50 on yinlin banner. Should still be able to guranty Jinhsi in 1.1
Why deny myself fun
Precisely my point

look how ppl hyped Arleccino was cos ppl was "free of Hu Tao"
I have guarantee saved by pulling Jianxin under 30 on Jiyan. I wanted Danjin and still don't have her 
Realisticly people hyped her cause she was Harbringer with drip and fanbase already existing
Not to flex but
||I have Danjin||

Not gonna fall for the old "building pity" trick here
With rates that low
Building pity is valid

You either sacc the rate-up which is a win, or you lose 50/50 early which is still a win
Is it 0.6?
0.8
0.8. I did 80 pulls on starter banners already. Statiscitly it's 80 percent chance to get a 5 star in next 20 pulls
Nope
building pity is only fine in early account development when you don't know what you want
within a month or 2 you should know exactly what you want from your account and only roll on things that progress you towards that
It’s higher because of soft pity
Building pity isn’t for when you’re close to soft pity 
whether it be specific weapons, specific 5*s or even specific 4*s
idk, I am bad at math. But I do know that I got spooked buy Yae before when trying to get Faruzan
if you find yourself in a situation where you can realistically lose by rolling on the banner
dont roll on that banner
There is no L
But I had to get faruzan
I want c4 chixia, but do not want c1 jiyan
so I'm waiting for yinlin banner to come so I can pop pity there
and bc the banners overlap
Then u had some poor planning along the way
once pity is popped I can pursue c4 chixia again
Yeah imagine being the opposite. Getting C8 Chixia and 0 Jiyan
U either were up to soft pity and wasted it, or had pulled on too many banners and didn’t have enough of a stock
Poor planing aka her not showing up in 120 pulls yes
Yeah well
HSR ppl kept telling me my planning sucked when I lost all my 50/50’s to Yanqing
Going to soft pity on each
just plan better then
And then those same ppl dab on me with winning 50/50 and saccing
Btw Atilla. Which standard 5* between the sword, pistol, and rectifier is the best one?
Uh huh
With how lucky I am in genshin and HSR with 50/50 I honestly expect ot win zero 50/50 here
whichever one you're going to use
Don’t need to ask Atilla 
Overall best is sword
The one with crit
pistol is uniquely good, but stringmaster is coming out in a day
and is some serious competition
since you can change your selector without losing pity, just roll for whichever one you want right now
and if that changes before you get it
just... change the selector
I’m changing Atilla’s name
Yeah. But I got the two I'm gonna use
. gaunlet and broadblade. Just considering what to pick for the UL45 selector
dewit
no
Meanwhile Ariel and unused Chixia
my hope is that changli is a teamwide fusion deepen buffer
so that encore chixia can pop off
it's something we'll get eventually, but idk how long it'll take
Kuro pls increase Intimacy XP so I can get Changli to level 5 day 1 

I'm not but anyone here saving for Camellya?
I want her and Jinshi.
idk if they wanna make elements relevant beyond sets
but if they do they better make ele% deepen teamwide
i mean this was obvious to me
thats why i said dont believe the drip color
she makes sense to be spectro
we only have verina and mc
only ele we lack a dps for
and shes all like holy bitch
so makes even more sense to be light
Supposedly jinhsi main dps changli sub dps
yeah
checks out
jinshi to open up spectro dps comp
and changli to have a swap mate for encore
smc is great
For my TAOQI
Yeah yeah
HMC do way too much damage
Gotta study
it all depends on what dmg jinshi does
so we can do jinshi + buffer + smc as the healer set proccer
we already have an encore swap mate
its called biker
okay but
Atilla selling Chixia again
changli i assume will be pyro yinlin
not chixia

any biker unit
yes including chixia
Still selling her then
but unironically I could see fusion dmg% biker verina being correct in some team

there are 3 echoes that are basically characters in and of themselves
dreamless
biker
turtle
and to a lesser extent mech abomination
lampylumen is ok but doesnt have full teams that can exploit them like the others

mech abomination in the right content has the single highest scaling in the game
beating out HMC and chixia ults
that requires you to somehow fit 12 enemies into the AOE
but even a more reasonable 5 in aoe content is 839.96% scaling
it has 3 hits
start hit which is a laughable 34.96% scaling
the actual hit which is 230%
and the status afterburn which hits 115% in a pretty reasonable AOE
and its on each thing hit, so it has quadratic scaling
there are actually people running tune calch to have abomination in jianxin calch teams
Idk what any of that means
This
Specifically


Too ignorant to the tc teamcomps
ok so you use jianxin grouping from her ult, then you immediately swap in calch to use mech abomination
and then do the standard calch stuff (no swap bc its a DPS loss with jianxin deepen)
so na3dna2>slamx3
What's a team comp
Why not just have mech abomination on Jianxin herself

because lingering tunes isnt the ER set
and in this build you need a metric ton of ER on jianxin
Great
which means her offensive stats are gonna be ass
Wish she had energy regen as her stats in skill tree so I don't have to care. 
I just run ER primary

5* gauntlets give 12.8% 
does this make your ER brain happy?
I'll lessen the need for ER when I get her S2 trust 
noice
the other 3 were 4 stars

gonna save the rest I earn till UL 40

it's your favorite genshin buzzword. quadratic scaling
so basically succ a ton of shit together with jx and plomp abom on them and boom qUaDrAtIc sCaLiNg
Lmao
Idk why he uses the word quadratic
It’s not technically quadratic
Quadratic is ax^2 + bx + c
This is multiplicative scaling
It means that the damage scales with x²
Damage x number of enemies
You just take the entire damage formula and add an extra value to it
“# of enemies hit”
There’s no squaring
Atilla is also a fool
who can i trust
But we love him
So do we trust the toilectcrafter or a content creator
Trust me
i cant trust a seele coper
Bro
Id put money on cc
ur judgement is off
I have an A+ in calculus
smh

what if atilla also has a+ in calculus?
Then he should know better
then you both have the same credentials

just be a math major
Btw
but thank god for excel
fuck micro

B+ in statistics cuz fk their formulas
Calculus is the purest science

My calc teacher showed me how to draw flowers
On a graphing calculator

which makes studying extremely hard
I feel u
I didn’t study
and my only skill is parroting what others told me
I just knew it that well
cuz my memory is excellent
But then I got depression
and thats all i can show
And lost all my memory
😢
Now I’m a coper
Be blessed that you still have yours
And didn’t degenerate into a potato like me

idk my hs science class definitely used calculus
someone the other asked me what im good at
Mine can't read a clock or relate a clock to fraction
and i couldnt say anything
cuz like....memorizing gacha game rotations
hardly a skill i can boast about

In mathematics, a function or sequence is said to exhibit quadratic growth when its values are proportional to the square of the function argument or sequence position. "Quadratic growth" often means more generally "quadratic growth in the limit", as the argument or sequence position goes to infinity – in big Theta notation,
...
im not reading that
I can spin that easy, I love putting 120% in things I do. I'll do as much research as I can and I'm am very attentive to the most minute of details
aka yesnt
What is it that u do?
proper term is quadratic growth
I spend a ton of time malding in video games to get into the top 1%
@candid loom
explain yourself
1min calculus teacher failed me
WE SAW THAT AIUR
lmao
It's nothing
dentgehandshake
Tene proved his toiletcrafting again, was what I deleted
Idk i felt I was riffing on my sensei too much 
smh
He needs a break from being wrong all the time 
Malding in 2010s thinking I'll be a pro StarCraft 2 player 
your explanation as to why u removed the riff on ur sensei is a bigger riff than the riff u removed
u dumdum
riffception
How tho
The damage isn’t squared
It’s multiplied by x number of enemies
Damage x Enemies is not x^2
no
cos its aoe damage
so 3 units will do 9 times damage of single target
cos each one will hit other 2
thats the reason morgana in genshin was so busted
you press venti ult and those 9 hilis each get icle droped on them
and it aoes rest 8
Thats damage x number of hilichurls
and thats for each enemy in vortex
it AOES rest of them
3 units get droped 3 aoes on them stending next to each other
results in each of them taking triple damage from that cast
you are not caped by 1 instance per target
x squared
Okay lets math this out. So you have an attack that does AoE 3 times. If you hit one enemy 3 times or 3 enemies present on map but only hit each one one time each, then it is 3 AoE damage x 1
If we math it like your scenario where the AoEs stack on 9 hilichurls, then it is 3 AoE’s x 9 hilichurls hit by each AoE which is 9x damage. But what if there’s 8? The damage would then be 3 AoEs x 8 hilichurls hit by each.
You’re always multiplying by the number of enemies hit by each AoE
eat does aoe X times
where aoe is amoun of enemies
targeted
so 8 hilis will make 8 aoes
Yeah thats Ganyu’s ult
and its quadratic
Its quadratic in that case because the number of enemies determines the number of AoEs
Yes
each aoe tick does 100 damage
there is 3 enemies next to eachother
each generates aoe
3 aoes from each enemy on 3 targets is 900 damage per TICK
not 300
Because overlapping AoEs isn’t quadratic unless the number of enemies directly determines how many AoEs you get
and the same thing zajef said
but it does determine
Which in Ganyu’s case it does
and it does in the case of mech abom
as i said tene being pedantic

excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.
learned a new word today
made me open paint
Yes
Painttt
But what I’m saying is
There’s two types of AoEs
The Ganyu style quadratic shit
Which is truly quadratic
And attacks which just do set numbers of AoEs regardless of enemy number
Which is basic multiplicative
Multiplicative: # AoEs x # Enemies
Quadratic: same thing but # AoEs = # Enemies
i dont have it open no
Shit
@scenic condor help
your favorite site has it
Lets read Mech Abom together
So the last bit
basically explode works like a timebomb
yes
But the rest is not
Yeeeee
like venti + goat
i know cos i used it in Tower
i was running HMC Dangin with dreamless and Jianxin with mech
to aoe group to shreds
Op
And HMC boost both

and Jianxin gives ult pen
That’s Havoc right
What’s Spectro’s
yes
Op af
And this is free unit lmao
his baseline stats good too
But this will be lost when u go to use third Dreamless no?
for onfielding
Yeah at c4
yes
thats for onfiled
you have CD on Dreamless
so you can either MC or Danjin onfield
So the cooldown on Dreamless is longer than the time it takes to refresh HMC’s havoc outro buff?
So u can still buff both
Oh wait
so you left for 15 secods
yes
Reading issue again 
rn Meta comp is either danjin but its a bit clunky cos both HMC and Danjin want onfield you have
or Encore
cos encore can be quickswapy
and abuse just one dreamless
i knew you lost the moment you said "idk why he uses the word quadtratic"
Well
and then u went on about calculus a+
and it made it clear to me that u didnt actually know what mech abom did
so i went with it
and had some fun
thank you for the entertainment
Nothing I said was incorrect, just wasn’t correct from the context of mech which I failed to acknowledge before lecture time 

@scenic condor A+ calculus me was also 10 years ago 
at least you didnt see me backreading that
I haven’t used it since
and facepalming
before ive posted wiki page
Man
anyway
ill learn how to do more damage in this game later tbh
rn im too busy being shit on
tene now look interested in triple dreamless more
But thats why u guys love me

the answer is probably the same as genshin. get better gear, do more damage. the rest is just flexing
Ngl I like the mono-havoc comp idea
bc i keep dying
Cuz Taoqi my beloved
dodge issue huh
then just wait till wuwa gets a zhongli (which i hope we never get)
Taoqi can fix that!
Jianxin probably better there overall cos grouping and ult pen
tene the taoqi salesman now?
if we get a zhongli im never rolling
I killed the Hologram bird by quickswapping to Taoqi to tank each hit
i stand by the fact that jx is poo
Then healing her up
solely cause her concerto stacking is too slow
you shouldve seen him crumble and say fuck... in hsr chat when as reason to play WuWa ive posted him this

i go for parry every time i see the yellow circle and i get shit on every time bc i dont know the timings

Aiur and selym called it from day 1
Bangs covering one eye = I simp
you did full story?
Yes I’ve finished main story if Dreamless fight is the last part
yeah
Ok then yeah
its also ez to farm btw
cos it drops from 40 lvl boss same as from 60
droprate wise
so just oneshot 40 boss
Which
and leave
5* depends on your bank
Well I’m only bank lvl 11
boss level changes only stamina claimable loot
But I have lots to obtain still
I’m casul
echo droprate tied to Databank
sleeeepgeeee
Camellya rumored to be havoc @candid loom
and might be better then Danjin for Dreamless comps
Boss echo drop rate isn’t 100%?
probably will
how do we tell him Ariel
in the upcoming ones
Pog, will def pull then
abot drop rates

it's never gonna be 100%
Did I just get lucky or what
litirally tene
today? or in general
So it looks like 100
In general
i think
Ah thats why
there is echo droprate
and rarity droprate
and thats it
after that its a crapshoot 3dlmao
15 is basically have most pokedex at purple rarity
So top prio should be 15 data bank
yeah
ye
Then farm 5* echo
Ah
19-20 is locked behind ar40








ur in a school where students can mathhhh
