there are ?
#Wuthering Waves
rough token
Oh right
Rocksteady Guardian
open copper
there are ?
It’s apparently some 500-1.000 people. I’ve seen a comment on Reddit once.
open copper
I can see it in my app store, lol.
More impressive is how it still outlives some shit.
open copper
The storyline somehow became interesting. Then KR2 un-happened.
open copper
Hey, the designs were/are sick.
glass galleon
that sounded familiar
so i had to check the history books
i see some spreadsheets i made back in 2017
scenic condor
i see some spreadsheets i made back in 2017
the heck is all this
i think i played after all this was thrown out
cuz i dont remember any of this
the classes make sense tho
glass galleon
iirc its materials needed to upgrade
glass galleon
wind pawn
Why is jian tiered so high
scenic condor
Why is jian tiered so high
cause tower stage 2-3 has small mobs she can group easily
and cause we dont really have anything else
for now
shes purely there for the succ
that is if you meant jx
@nocturne tinsel do i really need doublt crit on hmc even when i get the 5* crit sword?
my cdmg will be kinda low
nocturne tinsel
you can work with 4/3/3/1/1 too
scenic condor
are you
crazy
why would i put myself thru that
the questoin is about
if the 44 has to be crit crit
or crit cdmg
nocturne tinsel
can be either
scenic condor
75/250
right
is what we aim for
so it will depend on the subs i can roll
i know danjin will be more on field but
hmc is so hot
i kidna just wanna see more of him
instead of danjin and her weird body proportions
tho for now it should be crit crit probably
until i get the damn sword
yeah im keep getting cdmg subs
yea another
okay
nocturne tinsel
I will never have to worry about my jianxin not ulting again
scenic condor
i need 2 crit 4s then
LOL
pog
heck i should be running sanhua over danjin probably
for open world shit
cuz i wont have ult up anyway for everything
wish we had more male supps 
i want a male trio for open world at least
flint cargo
I really don't like the upgrading system
For echoes
It just feel all kind of wrong
vapid prairie
Last 3 Aero set Chaserazor have Electro DMG
Last 3 Aero set Hoochief have Havoc DMG
vapid prairie
Let's go 2/5 of the 5* gotten
Now to choose between sword, pistol, and rectifier for selector
ocean pivot
my brain smushed pistol and rectifier into pacifier 
marble sapphire
https://vxtwitter.com/wawamachi/status/1797100678541918456?t=NYs9IjTgtOLaq0lcsPoRfw&s=19 she pretty for a 4*
candid loom
Succ heavies
marble sapphire
vapid prairie
errant lily
hello just a question?
are these 2 the same?
I am just afraid I will get the wrong one since I am using this one for a specific character
vapid prairie
Yeah. Some parts of the game refer to Geohide to its old name in the closed beta test. Even his Echo skill refers to his old name
@errant lily
marble sapphire
looking it up, who knew the cute do gooder Danjin is not only a Havoc/Dark element character who actually loves inflicting violence on evildoers but also is a Bloodcraft main 
vapid prairie
Actually. Everywhere else refers to him as Viridblaze
Another pet peeve I found is that the data bank doesn't say that there's actually two types of Hoochiefs 3 costs for the Aero set
And the Aero farming route map that I found doesn't include the brown one
split violet
anyone who keeps randomly crashes while playing the game?
shy lotus
50% of wuwa players in a nutshell
quasi moth
I think that is a hardware issue
Game crashing I mean
Maybe not actually, and I might be talking out of my ass
But this has only happened twice for me
When I play for too long
Unless this is on pc, then idk
quasi moth
I thought it was just my phone having frame rate issues
Wait so it was actually lag?
ocean pivot
Play for too long? is it memory leak? 
burnt mortar
Game not taking input from my ds4 now
Man the devs are actually so incompetent
Guess ill have to use ds4windows
quasi moth
Play for too long? is it memory leak? <:batbrain:923021946852114452>
My phone overheats after playing for a while
It used to cause lags in hsr but that only happens when I charge my phone
For wuwa, it kinda happened even without that
quasi moth
<:BurstBrain:818532984927420468>
Wait sorry, I wasn’t clear enough
“My phone overheats even without me charging when I play wuwa”
So it lags after a certain amount of time
split violet
wow i keep randomly crashes lol the only time is not is when i use any domains inside
manic rune
i only crashed like twice in the earlier days and im on a i5 4thgen with a 1060 
split violet
i crashed like 15 times each day
quasi moth
How long are ya playing for?
glass galleon
scenic condor
its not great but you *can* do mortefi aalto jiyan
whats the point in that?
both morte and aalto have noswap buffs which means i can only use one of their buffs for jiyan xd
tho for open world ig that wouldnt matter but for tower kek
scenic condor
Last 3 Aero set Chaserazor have Electro DMG
Last 3 Aero set Hoochief have Havoc ...
it's riggeeeed
quasi moth
What’s a mortefi?
nocturne tinsel
oppa
glass galleon
interesting
minor slateBOT
.calc 460/160
quasi moth
Is radiant tide the currency?
manic rune
quasi moth
The pulling shit
glass galleon
Is radiant tide the currency?
limited pulls
flint cargo
Do you think they notice a significant drop off in players and is pushing up content to get people to stay
quasi moth
Low-key wanna commission a Stella vermillion mouse thing 
glass galleon
(1) Echo Development feels grindy and inadequate energy materials
We are aware of the common concern in the community that the current Echo leveling experience feels too grindy and the game lacks a Waveplates storage system. We have confirmed and will implement the following adjustments while we are working internally on solutions to address other common concerns.
In the current version, we will launch a limited-time Echo material double yield event "Chord Cleansing";
In version 1.1, we will adjust the progression system to reduce the Shell Credit costs of Echo development;
In version 1.1, we will remove the reward cutscene of the Tacet Field;
From version 1.1 and forward, the yield of Echoes and Echo development materials will be increased;
In upcoming updates, we will introduce the Waveplates storage system.
whats a waveplate
LOL
manic rune
glass galleon
i honestly cant remember wtf anything is called in this game
manic rune
hated this
manic rune
whats a waveplate
stamina
glass galleon
oh the cubes?
manic rune
not sure whats that supposed to mean
glass galleon
(2) Regarding our handling of the reward system error when recycling developed Echoes
On May 29, 2024, we were notified of an issue with the Echo recycling system where the amount of Shell Credits players obtained when recycling developed Echoes was wrong. Since this is an issue that directly impacts the game's balance, we fixed this problem through an emergency live update on the same night and issued compensation to all players. As part of the measures to minimize the event's impact on the fairness within the player community, we informed the players of the situation and announced that we would remove all additional Shell Credits obtained unexpectedly as a result of this bug within 14 business days and issue compensations accordingly.
However, due to the urgency of this issue, we failed to issue an announcement of this issue in the first instance, which regrettably caused negative experiences for our players. We sincerely apologize for our improper way of handling this situation and the inconvenience caused.
Following an internal discussion, we have decided to compensate all players with the Shell Credit based on the maximum amount of Shell Credit that had been unexpectedly yielded through this bug to address the negative impact caused. We will round up to the nearest whole number and provide extra compensation to all players: Shell Credit ×1,000,000.
We apologize again for the hasty way we handled this issue and for any inappropriate wording in our announcements. We promise that all our future decisions shall reflect thorough consideration and professionalism.
Additionally, to address the poor experience with the Echo system, we will compensate all Rovers with Crystal Solvents ×20 (1 Crystal Solvent = 60 Waveplates). Thank you for your understanding and support!
manic rune
pog
glass galleon
1200 stamina 
manic rune
those are from twitter?
manic rune
thanks
glass galleon
(5) Controller Mode Experience Optimization
In version 1.1, we will remap the current controller shortcut of "Open Chat" to "Open Map" and add an option to invert the Y-axis.
Future versions will support "Controller Mode" on mobile devices.
finally
you had to press like 5 buttons to get to the map on controller
manic rune
flint cargo
> (1) Echo Development feels grindy and inadequate energy materials
>
> We are ...
These things should have been at launch. Why even wait for 1.1 lmao
scenic condor
Why are we rushing content
i think they are trying to rush 1.1
cuz maybe the changes can only be implemented with a bigger patch? xd
idk
but yinlin banner moving up is kinda cray
do they cut off jiyan banner time then?
flint cargo
Yeah
scenic condor
or will they run alongside each other
flint cargo
I don't see why they can't have them running alongside
glass galleon
okay lets see
glass galleon
Shell Credit ×1,000,000
Crystal Solvents ×20 (1200 stamina)
Radiant Tide ×10
Forging Tides ×5
Event Rewards: Astrites ×800 + Morphable Elite Class Echo I + Morphable Elite Class Echo II + Premium Tuner + Premium Sealed Tube```3 cost selector
glass galleon
thats the morphable right
manic rune
yea
shy lotus
They keep patching stuff daily
shy lotus
So it means it's buggy
flint cargo
I mean
glass galleon
and also fixing it 
glass galleon
thats usually separate departments
manic rune
at least they are fixing stuffs fast
glass galleon
you dont have everyone doing everything
manic rune
unlike some companies
glass galleon
people be like "WHY ARE THEY DESIGNING NEW AREAS. FIX YOUR GAME"
"...im an artist. all i can do is draw"
scenic condor
They keep patching stuff daily
isnt that a good sign? would you rather they didnt do anything?
shy lotus
I'm stating facts
scenic condor
pushing things forward is good. they listed many changes for 1.1 so ig they wanna get those improvements out faster
and im here for it
weak jay
@normal egret
manic rune
xd
zealous grove
shy lotus
Back read above
marble sapphire
plenty of QoL for 1.1 + Yinli moved closer
glass galleon
Shell Credit ×1,000,000
Crystal Solvents ×20 (1200 stamina)
Radiant Tide ×10
Forging Tides ×5
Event Rewards: Astrites ×800 + Morphable Elite Class Echo I + Morphable Elite Class Echo II + Premium Tuner + Premium Sealed Tube
Yinlin + Stuff - Jun 6
Patch 1.1 - Jun 28
marble sapphire
even if Genshin had this kind of huge failure...
lets be real, they are never gonna have this amount of compensation anyway
manic rune
at most they will give u a 10 pull
last nest
even if Genshin had this kind of huge failure...
Annivesary debacle? Google clasroom still havesnt recovered
manic rune
Annivesary debacle? Google clasroom still havesnt recovered
shit is still lower than 3.5 ratings
i think
marble sapphire
and unlike whats going on right now, thanks to the sheer number of fans that they have gathered thanks to the launch of Genshin...
there will be a lot of people defending it anyway
last nest
Most of genshin playerbase is hypercasual so they don't really give a fuck about online people
last nest
And overtime the online people got stockholm syndrom. People on gachagaming legit wear it as a badge of honour that Genshin devs never listen to public and never give any compensation
young forge
marble sapphire
...when the weekly purchase is actually considered QoL to stop people from accidentally burning all their money
manic rune
if it was the 1st banner
scenic condor
the internet is weird
the internet is kinda right tho
manic rune
it wouldnt make much sense
scenic condor
ppl want booba
glass galleon
just google pictures
last nest
Internet is wrong cause people would just reroll for her instead
marble sapphire
yep, its not about it making sense...
its about the general demographics of gacha players
manic rune
coz jiyan was in story so yea...
scenic condor
honestly im happy for wuwa
last nest
remember Venti was the first banner in Genshin <:KEKHands:819036396714065960>
Archon privilege.
scenic condor
ye shit launch but its like watching intern kun grow up before our eyes
glass galleon
scenic condor
years later we can look back and say wow they imrpvord a lot
manic rune
venti is pretty much the 1st char u saw anyway
last nest
Venti is also androgenus enough for Cn and JPN to be fine with him
last nest
what was the other banner anyway
Klee
last nest
It was super funny cause it sold super well which tricked Genshin devs into thinking that people actually liked Klee(she never sold well again)
rough token
years later we can look back and say wow they imrpvord a lot
I mean, remember PGR on release with the rainbow cards problwm?
marble sapphire
RIP Klee...inherently broken as a character, not in a good way. But still better than Dehya i guess
scenic condor
I mean, remember PGR on release with the rainbow cards problwm?<:KEKHands:819036...
yes. pgr had one issue wuwa has SO MANY
scenic condor
but yes pgr improved a ton
marble sapphire
It was super funny cause it sold super well which tricked Genshin devs into thin...
eh, people do like Klee as a character, but not in terms of usage...
scenic condor
im hoping for the same
last nest
yes. pgr had one issue wuwa has SO MANY
Pgr had way more than 1 issue
Their is a reason they gave out selectors like candy
manic rune
yes. pgr had one issue wuwa has SO MANY
also different kind of games and game engine , it is what it is
rough token
But it's indeed great to see they actually listening to the playerbase now
Guess Kuro did learn from their old mistakes
manic rune
i mean
scenic condor
ill stick by them
marble sapphire
i mean in an ideal world...they'd also learn to not commit plenty of these mistakes to begin with too
scenic condor
Their is a reason they gave out selectors like candy
the selector was for the 1$ debacle
subsequent selectots are half anni and anni stuff
last nest
eh, people do like Klee as a character, but not in terms of usage...
She is pretty down on the 5 stars own. Comparable to chars like Albedo, Cyno and Itto
marble sapphire
as i say again, her animations are just ☠️
last nest
i mean in an ideal world...they'd also learn to not commit plenty of these mista...
But than I won't get the compensation so thanks but no
rough token
quasi moth
Wuwa is one of the few games where most males are top tiers
manic rune
encore did it better
also cuter
marble sapphire
Encore's animations imo are simple and hard to mess up
rough token
I just remember you can push NPCs while running
Time to find any NPC that's standing on the edge of a cliff
last nest
Design wise
Was about to say someting about Midcharo
marble sapphire
the one that really bugged me when i last played Genshin was just the comparison between like Keqing and Ayaka CA the former's CA actually pushes herself away from the enemy which can mess up combos and she does not have very easy infusion. Compare.....
last nest
It's not his looks that make him take up the mantle of midyuang
rough token
He looks cool
Wingless Sephiroth smh
glass galleon
Wuwa is one of the few games where most males are top tiers
i never really cared about male vs female
im like neo
rough token
Havoc mc got the one wing instead
manic rune
yea , male design in wuwa is pretty neat looks at itto noodle arms
quasi moth
im like neo
Fair
last nest
yea , male design in wuwa is pretty neat <:batbrain:923021946852114452> looks at...
Models in general are way better in Wuwa than Genshin.
last nest
Genshin models are 4 years old and did not age gracefully at all
scenic condor
Wuwa is one of the few games where most males are top tiers
which games have mid males? i think gachas get male designs right more ofteb than female
glass galleon
probably because they only have like 3 generic models
scenic condor
genshin feels like children game
manic rune
genshin feels like children game
it pretty much is
last nest
That's the target audience!
young forge
which games have mid males? i think gachas get male designs right more ofteb tha...
cos they need to make males mroe then booba + dere trope to sell
so need to make character behind
manic rune
time to farm for cdmg rider for encore now
last nest
probably because they only have like 3 generic models
It's not that. You can even compare genshin models with HSR models to see that HSR ones look way better.
They just never bothered updating the models in Genshin
last nest
You can see it with any new models in Genshin(like bossess) looking way better
rough token
imagine ppl thought itto was gonna look buffed
Hell
Sam's body shape in HSR looks better than him
And it's a girl inside
young forge
Is way more muscular than itto
Rizzly na d Neuvilette too
iirc its new model added
but i am not sure
flint cargo
In pretty sure if I show shamane to a hoyo designer they would just combust
young forge
last nest
Rizzly na d Neuvilette too
He really isn't. He just wears baggy closers to hide nodle arms
scenic condor
itto is the same model as ham/neuvi/rizz
scenic condor
they just put cothes on them
rizz cake and legs are clothes
well
not necessarily
young forge
scenic condor
also
unironically
i love itto being fake muscle
it fits him so well
like if anybody would do spray-on abs
last nest
The only muscular models for dudes are nps for Genshin
flint cargo
scenic condor
ratio looks like ham model
ham is the first male who got some actual muscle
but yes genshin models have issues
like how tall male's knees start WAY LOWER than humanly possible
and they have an unrealistically long upper leg cause of this
marble sapphire
i wonder if i want to bother with Yinlin since I lost a bit of interest playing Calcharo seriously 
scenic condor
i wonder if i want to bother with Yinlin since I lost a bit of interest playing ...
metawise, no
you dont want yinlin
probably
flint cargo
Boothill is a robot so he's allowed to have inhumane long legs
scenic condor
shes gonna be much better if we get other electros
last nest
i wonder if i want to bother with Yinlin since I lost a bit of interest playing ...
I would wait for leaks for 1.1 banners. If their is not electro dps than you can skip
scenic condor
thats not cal or yuanwu
scenic condor
I would wait for leaks for 1.1 banners. If their is not electro dps than you can...
1.1 has no electro fo sure
the official drip has been out for a while
flint cargo
We know 1.1 is changli and jihsi
scenic condor
and the colors are ice and fire
last nest
Prob but just to be on the safe side. Leaks prob come out in 1-2 weeks anyway
marble sapphire
iirc Jinhsi is glaceo apparently
flint cargo
Jinhsi glaceo and Changli is fusion
young forge
not spectre?
last nest
and the colors are ice and fire
I play alchemy stars. I learned not to trust colors 2 years ago
last nest
It's alright nowadays
young forge
whats AS
scenic condor
alchemy stars
young forge
isee
scenic condor
i played for about 1.5 yrs from day 1
last nest
Yes, I think I am one of very few people who actually likes the gameplay there
flint cargo
Can't pay me money to engage with the gameplay
last nest
i played for about 1.5 yrs from day 1
tbh since Toordog left the game actually got a lot better with Qol. It was dying but China release stabilized it
scenic condor
tourdog left the game?
huh
wait tourdog was a PERSON?
i thought that was the company's name that made the game
marble sapphire
Fusion = Fire, Glaceo = Ice, Aero = Wind, Spectro = Light, Havoc = Dark, what am i missing?
oh right Electro
last nest
has areia been powercrept finally? <:WheezeTao:798596939619762197>
I would say she is a tier below top tiers for forest this day
scenic condor
I would say she is a tier below top tiers for forest this day
oh wow. at last. it was so funny to me than whenever they put out a forest dps somehow it was always losing to areia
last nest
wait tourdog was a PERSON?
it's both a company and a person. He now works on another game for tencent
scenic condor
ic
last nest
oh wow. at last. it was so funny to me than whenever they put out a forest dps s...
Hiiro still overall the best cause forsest got locked into enahcne titles for 3 years lol
scenic condor
kek
imejin. 1.1 character still top meta after 3 years
tho if i think of AK
they only managed to powercreep eyja after like 5 years
so checks out ig
meanwhile 1.0 4* stars are still thriving in genshin
XQ forever top hydro
last nest
Neuv laughs at your horizontallity
scenic condor
fontaine was powercreep nation
last nest
The only bad part is that devs are probably getting crunched hard to get the content out earlier. Hope they go on a break after 1.1 release
marble sapphire
eh thats basically something i am getting
they are doing it so they can release ALL the QoL on 1.1
instead of working around the clock putting out fires
vocal ginkgo
Bah
They moving up their content pipeline
h ttps://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/827
More crunch for the devs
scenic condor
yeah we have been thru this
i think
they do this cause the changes are ready
so they gonna ship it in 1.1 together
rather than do a patch every single day for each thign
cuz atp it's a meme how we have a new patch every day
manic rune
we missed a day of patch
glass galleon
i dont know what that is
marble sapphire
...wait they said "Jue as new boss"
they casually just revealed that we are fighting Jinzhou's dragon god
nocturne tinsel
was that not clear from the story?
marble sapphire
it was implied but not confirmed
last nest
they casually just revealed that we are fighting Jinzhou's dragon god
If people didn't skip they would already know that from Jinshi
marble sapphire
https://vxtwitter.com/mrpokke/status/1797230593497002258?t=mNYJluu_hAfv05aceHblxg&s=19 fk, it's the v2
manic rune
cant wait for v3
burnt mortar
Lmao
steep blaze
ionic quiver
refill 180k credits again from 70% to 99% in guixu 
scenic condor
was that not clear from the story?
implying we read it
instead of slamming skip button
but enlighten me
😄
versed solar
marble sapphire
look up
steep blaze
Tldr: yinlin 6/6
ionic quiver
kyle
candid loom
Idk how people can be bored
scenic condor
Idk how people can be bored
who
candid loom
Responding to everyone praising the content rush
The classic binge the game in week 1 till there’s nothing left then be mad cuz no content for the rest of the patch
ionic quiver
damn people already bored, meanwhile i still need 2M credits 
scenic condor
Responding to everyone praising the content rush
im mostly praising them doing the fixes faster
scenic condor
nah
they need the money
and i believe in kuro devs
they didnt give up on pgr either
despite the launch disaster
marble sapphire
I thought they were gonna pull a WC3 Refunded and abandon it tbh
dont be silly...the amount of money spent on developing WuWa is most likely pretty high...
candid loom
candid loom
dont be silly...the amount of money spent on developing WuWa is most likely pret...
Can’t be as high as a brand-new game
Half the shit is copied from Genshin
marble sapphire
conceptually maybe, but you have to make all those assets from scratch 😛
marble sapphire
what
marble sapphire
you lost me
candid loom
I said they had to remake the textures in WC3 refunded from scratch
At best they could use the old models to work on
As template
young forge
Half the shit is copied from Genshin
half of the shit in current shooters and live services copied from fortnite
summer wedge
Game is dodging Firefly 
young forge
companies adapt
marble sapphire
for that case whether it was the studio just defending themselves or being truthful, the ones in charge of the remake said that they were actually more ambitious with their plans but Blizzard stopped them
candid loom
half of the shit in current shooters and live services copied from fortnite
And every shooter in existence copied Unreal Tournament 
Which copied Quake
Which copied something older
marble sapphire
oh right, adding complications, its not as if WuWa could have copied Genshin code or something and use that as a base(even though thats impossible anyway) because they are using a different engine....
scenic condor
Half the shit is copied from Genshin
bitch it's a genre
half the shit of dota was copied into lol
and then all mobas copied that
candid loom
What
scenic condor
battlepasses were copeid from fortnite
candid loom
DotA was a WC3 map and both LoL & DotA2 devs owned the IP
scenic condor
look how many overwatch copies exist
candid loom
scenic condor
DotA was a WC3 map and both LoL & DotA2 devs owned the IP
okay then any other moba that came after thta copied them
cuz it's a genre
it's gonna be a copy
wuwa stands out with combat being different
what i will say is that i wish they kept the old UI
candid loom
Everything is a copyyyyyy
scenic condor
yeah
you cant really make original stuff up
especially if u want a share of the market
candid loom
especially if u want a share of the market
Thats how it started tho
scenic condor
once in a blue moon theres something new
and then everybody will copy that
and pray they get paid
candid loom
Golden age of gaming was when everything was new
scenic condor
well golden age of gaming was when i didnt know what gacha was
and this shit microtransaction bullshit didnt permeate my lfie
candid loom
Just move to Belgium
scenic condor
i miss the community
i miss having a community in game
sure we have discord for gachas
but it's not the same as PLAYING together
i looked at cbt1 footage of wuwa
the game was so much better
darker themes
story looked better
ui was 100% better
frigid gyro
Cn said otherwise bro
scenic condor
we also had genshin-like elemental reactions but instead of damage multipliers they were all debuffs
scenic condor
Cn said otherwise bro
and look how it ended up now xd they changed it for cn, and now they trash the game cuz OMG GENSHIN COPY
scenic condor
CN bros got veto power
i dont even think it was cn bros
it was a small loud minority
marble sapphire
same with games I guess
you know, I swear if we had today's internet back in the earlier days of gaming it would most likely be an even bigger toxic cesspool than today with all the genres being figured out
scenic condor
probably
who cried about waifu not loving them at first sight
but like
cn got what they wanted
and now they shit on the game
for the stuff THEY asked for
make this make sense
scenic condor
imo kuro's problem is that they listen too much
they had no faith in their own original idea
shoulda stuck with that
so they can have a more unique presence
frigid gyro
I just didn't like the design of cbt1 characters
scenic condor
instead of a genshin reskin
yeh the characters i agree on
it's mostly the story and the ui
that i have issue with
candid loom
Jenshit Simpact
frigid gyro
I liked the bleak atmosphere tho
scenic condor
genshin will never die
they can release back to back scara reruns
and it wont die
ever
candid loom
It will die
young forge
i mean
look at other side
Endfield from AK tries to be unique and ppl dislike it for that
scenic condor
WHEN
scenic condor
i mean
look at other side
Endfield from AK tries to be unique and ppl dislike it...
theres unique and theres niche af
base management as your core gameplay
is not gonna fly with most of the ppl
cuz it's not dynamic
and the combat is just dragon age inquisition
but somehow worse
flint cargo
i mean
look at other side
Endfield from AK tries to be unique and ppl dislike it...
i dont think people problem with endfield is how it look
scenic condor
im not gonna shit on it hard, im sure it will find its audience, it's just not for me
candid loom
Dragon Age combat just copied from Runescape anyway
flint cargo
think the combat just kinda eh
young forge
ppl play Bloons for wifus in AK
ppl will play Endfield for AK designs and cope with base manager
candid loom
As if Bloons was the first tower defense game
young forge
bloons perfected the ganre
marble sapphire
I just didn't like the design of cbt1 characters
meanwhile me thinking CBT Camellya looked classy and they changed that..
quasi moth
I'd still take fighting and card games over gacha games
marble sapphire
you in the SV2 waiting club
scenic condor
Dragon Age combat just copied from Runescape anyway
i cant trace that. im just mentioning whatever earliest similarity popped into my head. but the principle is the same
candid loom
<:Shruge:1037766718128410725> i cant trace that. im just mentioning whatever ea...
Not a runescape player smh smh
scenic condor
I'd still take fighting and card games over gacha games
card games are gacha too
kek
candid loom
card games are gacha too
Not true
scenic condor
im sorry is pack rng not a thing?
candid loom
im sorry is pack rng not a thing?
For some card games, no
scenic condor
and how long do those games live?
candid loom
They’re much newer than the og pack rng games like mtg, Pokemon & Yugioh lmao
So age is not a fair metric
frigid gyro
and how long do those games live?
Ygo is still alive.
quasi moth
What fgs tho
any
candid loom
Yugioh has rng
quasi moth
I mainly played dbfz before I went to uni
shy lotus
you can also just buy the individual cards
candid loom
Android Netrunner is an example of a game that has zero pack rng
frigid gyro
I mainly played dbfz before I went to uni
You hate yourself
frigid gyro
Why would u play uni
candid loom
shy lotus
buy a specific character (the ow rarity but who cares about that)
frigid gyro
U should've stayed on the party game known as dbfz
frigid gyro
Ohhh
candid loom
Why wouldn’t u have the pack shit
frigid gyro
Thought u meant under night
quasi moth
dbfz is still better than smash
frigid gyro
Wouldve been crying for you
candid loom
It draws in the gambling addicts
quasi moth
I wanna play tekken
quasi moth
Thought u meant under night
that seems super underground
frigid gyro
Its not really underground
scenic condor
Why wouldn’t u have the pack shit
no im saying i never experienced card games that had no pack rng
frigid gyro
More like people don't care for alot of anime fgs
quasi moth
I am not too in the fgc
candid loom
no im saying i never experienced card games that had no pack rng
I have 
Thats why I’m correcting you
frigid gyro
Considering that game is a main game for events like ceo, combo breaker and evo
candid loom
frigid gyro
I am not too in the fgc
Ahh makes sense
quasi moth
only ones I know are like, guilty gear, tekken, dbfz and whatnot
frigid gyro
O damn
The game is terrible tho don't get it twisted
Now I wait for the next melty blood game
quasi moth
candid loom
Smash bros
frigid gyro
Smash bros <:Krappa:818464598118236180>
Zzzzz mimimimimi
marble sapphire
no im saying i never experienced card games that had no pack rng
given collectible card games and their pack RNG as a business model...
candid loom
given collectible card games and their pack RNG as a business model...
Not all of them REEEEEEE
candid loom
quasi moth
this final expac is weird
marble sapphire
I am talking along the lines of MtG, YGO, Pokémon etc
candid loom
Me too
Netrunner has no pack rng
But its way more niche
Cuz it is newer
And didn’t get a foot in the door back in the day when mtg, yugioh and pokemon were doing their thing
quasi moth
I am talking along the lines of MtG, YGO, Pokémon etc
tbf irl variations of those are better
marble sapphire
because you could actually sell the rare stuff you had and get some money back??
quasi moth
and md is an entirely different format
quasi moth
oh, genshin
candid loom
Ariel
How about instead of a skip button
These fucks make good story
Without annoying mascots
nocturne tinsel
Android Netrunner is an example of a game that has zero pack rng
genius invokation is an example of zero pack RNG
maiden skiff
Golden age of gaming was when everything was new
i dont see you playing any ofthose games
like pong
last nest
probably best the msq
I liked Sumeru more. Mc feels like an extra in Fontaine and Fatui are just vibing
scenic condor
I liked Sumeru more. Mc feels like an extra in Fontaine and Fatui are just vibin...
which is why i like fontaine
cuz idc about mc
hes bland ass
does do anything
just exists
and occasionally gets minimal spotlight in dain quests
also am i tripping or these talent stat upgrades are too small
last nest
hes bland ass
Well that's cause he is written like that. The problem with your aprouch is than aprox 30 percent of screen time is taken over by mc and paimon who do nothing in the story
scenic condor
like i get that they are copying hsr traces
but this is laughably small
and just awkward random numbers
last nest
Mc was way better back in Sumeru quest
scenic condor
Well that's cause he is written like that. The problem with your aprouch is than...
i hate self insert shit in general
and aether isnt even self insert
they just forced it on him
so he barely speaks
and i just fall asleep
so this is like the WORST combo of actual mc with self insert
last nest
i hate self insert shit in general
Genshin mc isn't a self insert tho? Nobody is into him(except for maybe Ayaka?) and he has to many traits to seperate him from generic protagonist
scenic condor
then why tf isnt he voiced???
why am i given useless dialogue choices that dont do anything
if it's not self insert
he plays like a self insert even tho hes not one
thats what i meant by forced
last nest
Money. MHY was pretty small when they made genshin originaly so they decided to go for mostly silent mc
last nest
Dunno if you notice but Genshin pretty much never changes things for the better after they are done
It took them 3 years to raise the stamina cap to 200
last nest
It's legit something to do with dev team, I think they are too proud to admit mistakes and high on their own succuess
scenic condor
It's legit something to do with dev team, I think they are too proud to admit mi...
or they just have no reason to do anything
cuz money is flowing
last nest
`you say that but than HSR is way faster in implementing Qol into the game and listening to community feedback so idk. HSR makes almost as much or more than genshin most of the month
maiden skiff
just waiting for in 2 years time when wuwa is fully fixed and way better then gi but people have forgoten it exists
steep blaze
marble sapphire
isnt that for the best considering how dumb people can be with stuff that has the spotlight on them
manic rune
`you say that but than HSR is way faster in implementing Qol into the game and l...
director diff
open copper
The Genshin team just witholds QoL to bait people.
They also just don’t change things. Game had basically the same gameplay since Inazuma.
On the topic of the story, I also prefer Sumeru’s story over Fontaine.
ionic quiver
not sure chief
gamplay changed on sumeru
people didnt even care about shield anymore
open copper
I mean, it’s the same gameplay grind.
ionic quiver
totally different meaning
grind has been the same since 1.0
1.3 to be exact
gameplay changed every big patch
2.0 patch introduce ER gameplay
3.0 patch introduce bloom etc
open copper
Do story -> Explore -> Artifacts -> Abyss.
Grind is synonymous with Loop to me, so it’s kinda subjective.
Yeah. Game feels stale as fuck
ionic quiver
4.0 further on off field thingy ( still bloom dont worry )
its make 0 sense
if u said grind changed since sumeru
maiden skiff
gameplay changed every big patch
i dont think gi gameplay has changed much as someone looking in from the outside, at least compared to hi3 or pgr gameplay
ionic quiver
its like saying i play FGO and grind changed since i enter EoR
its changed
behavior toward certain character become more and more upward
before 2.0 venti is goated
open copper
If you mean combat, yea, meta has changed considerably.
ionic quiver
after ward, it become shit
just because those samurai cant get lifted
basically means they cant get overload
so raiden + overload team triumph
etc etc
until they nerf the samurai U2 into U1
we play national raiden etc etc
and then 3.0 introruce bloom as a way to deal damagee
and then introduce further the broken nahida nilou comp to the game
people still use raiden but no more national
also played on EM instead of ER raiden
idk what are u talkingg about if that isnt the gameplay changed
HI3 gameplay changed by far the most and its good change, GI change is stale and stupid
nocturne tinsel
also played on EM instead of ER raiden
idk what you were doing but I was playing EM raiden since she released
vapid prairie
Me with 500 edible oil
TWO LITRE EDIBLE OIL AND TWO KILOGRAMS LENTILS
vapid prairie
It took them 3 years to raise the stamina cap to 200
I didn't stick around after 1.0 and didn't return after much much later. But when did they change the limit from 120 to 160 back at launch?
marble sapphire
...seems that email leak thing, they offered a 10k JPY amazon gift card
young forge
TWO LITRE EDIBLE OIL AND TWO KILOGRAMS LENTILS
Imagine spending all on random oil
Capability conundrum
scenic condor
`you say that but than HSR is way faster in implementing Qol into the game and l...
hsr has competition in the game genre. genshin doesnt.
and in return hsr has hard powercreep and a demanding release schedule
which genshin doesnt have
genshin has full monopoly
hsr still had a lot to prove, tho nowadays imo hsr can dial down the qol and the nice stuff cause they are pretty much in the lead too
maiden skiff
hsr still had a lot to prove, tho nowadays imo hsr can dial down the qol and the...
all hsr has to do is not pull another space china level story
problem is we are going back to space china
scenic condor
all hsr has to do is not pull another space china level story
i...i hate to disappoint you but i dont think people care about the story as much as you do
game is VERY easy to upkeep with autobattle
requires next to no skill to play
cuz 2 skill turn based game that a 6yr old could play
and very good character designs
vapid prairie
and in return hsr has hard powercreep and a demanding release schedule
Keep releasing 2 new 5* per patch with no sign of slowing down to 1 like Genshin 
scenic condor
with powercreep to incentivize the pulling harder
i dont think hsr can fuck up much
atp
scenic condor
Keep releasing 2 new 5* per patch with no sign of slowing down to 1 like Genshin...
cuz ppl buy them xd
maiden skiff
i...i hate to disappoint you but i dont think people care about the story as muc...
i know people dont care about story as much as i do
otherwise more people would play hi3
maiden skiff
part2 is good again tho 
ocean pivot
moon
vapid prairie
i know people dont care about story as much as i do
If I know imma reach the point in a gacha where I just pull for characters I want and do story, I might as well try to care about the story sooner
maiden skiff
litost 
maiden skiff
the shu really feel like the hi3 writers recaptured some of what made the flame chasers special
ocean pivot
litost <:Gigachad:894567008778203177>
did a double take cus i thought he looked like aizen
maiden skiff
and had them be the centerpoint of the story
maiden skiff
did a double take cus i thought he looked like aizen <:batbrain:9230219468521144...
the dude is fucking insane
he kinda pulled an ely but as a 'normal' human
vapid prairie
Haven't done 7.4 story yet since I've been busy but I like Part 2 so far
ocean pivot
he's got very interesting vibes fo sho
Hoyo so consistent with interesting me
They deserve my muns
vapid prairie
Is NotKafka™ in 7.4 story or later in 7.5?
maiden skiff
Is NotKafka™ in 7.4 story or later in 7.5?
thelema?
vapid prairie
Lantern
maiden skiff
i think she is 7.4
ocean pivot
when i googled thelema
quasi moth
when i googled thelema <:GinHeh:924671148891971676>
wHERE
maiden skiff
lol
quasi moth
Idk if this is a take out of ignorance
ocean pivot
quasi moth
Or just sheer braindead
vapid prairie
Is it me or (action rpg) is kinda like (action rpg)
Or better yet. WuWa is kinda like Dark Souls
maiden skiff
as for anyone that played pgr we all knew the one thing kuro would for sure get right was the combat feel
ocean pivot
ill combat feel you 
maiden skiff
~~we just didnt realize that was the only thing they would not botch on release ~~
quasi moth
as for anyone that played pgr we all knew the one thing kuro would for sure get ...
That is their main selling point imo
vapid prairie
as for anyone that played pgr we all knew the one thing kuro would for sure get ...
Does any boss in PGR have 69 different grab attacks like Mourning Aix?
ocean pivot
Zone of the enders
vapid prairie
That's Fromsoft
last nest
Or better yet. WuWa is kinda like Dark Souls
More Devil may cry imho. Souls is slower and more methodical
ocean pivot
Did someone say they are the storm 
candid loom
Did someone say they are the storm <:GodTier:818462050242002995>
I am the storm that is approaching
versed solar
versed solar
Armoured core or something?
armored core
quasi moth
Ye that game
versed solar
Ye that game
game's