Wuthering Waves

[pseudo wigeon]

The only way

[nocturne tinsel]

she's one of 3 buffers in the game

she is currently playable for lack of better options

[flint cargo]

She's also the free healer

[versed solar]

Reue

True

[flint cargo]

Oh you can parry with Encore jump atk

The timing is so much harder than a character that can parry with their normal but it's very sick

[last nest]

Dialogue is ass for the first few hours(thank to the rewrittes) but it gets better in act 3 and onwards

[quasi moth]

I c

[quasi moth]

I c

[last nest]

You get baizhi for on your first tutoriul pull of the banner

[quasi moth]

I see

[young summit]

lets goooo

nice also got her

im fucking dumb where the hell do i read skil description

ouh its here

[young forge]

shes free on 5th log in day

[manic rune]

[young summit]

so i will get a dupe of her right

[manic rune]

ye

[young summit]

i m interested in her anyway
getting her this earlier seemsgood

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-dmc-yamato-gif-21401933

[marble sapphire]

sometimes I leave my game sitting in that chair

helps that it's actually a healing spot

[manic rune]

it heals ?

[marble sapphire]

yes

[young forge]

motivation does it to you

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-dmc-walk-drip-gif-21366371

[flint cargo]

Need people to complain more so I get more free rolls

[quasi moth]

let's goo

kuro games

[young forge]

i am not too contemplating if i wanna switch target pick from Verina to Encore cos Regulus and no Danjin still
if switch indeed possible

[flint cargo]

I'm as biased as bias can be but Encore is so much fun

You telling me to pick between this and basically a premium Baizhi

I'm picking encore 10/10

[marble sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1czh4cc/kuro_has_just_2305_urgently_started_hiring_for/ Kuro has just (23-05) urgently started hiring for Writers and VA Directors amazing

[manic rune]

pokke

[zealous grove]

[pseudo wigeon]

the worst face imaginable

[marble sapphire]

do CCs practice their clickbait face in a mirror or something

[manic rune]

if it get views , then it works

xd

[pseudo wigeon]

just like re99 strated hiring after another event was far too poorly translated

[manic rune]

he does those on stream xd

[pseudo wigeon]

maybe they searched a recording frame by frame

• look - gugu gaga
• post it

[flint cargo]

Nobody talk about re1999 translation anymore so whatever they did it worked

[pseudo wigeon]

most definitely

hired a native speaker so it doesnt look so weird anymore

but it was defo a trouble

hire a good specialist in record times

test them somehow

get them to revise work that was already done and set in stone

eeeh, 15 years ago before live service people would just take this bad translation and enjoy it with memes

[burnt mortar]

Got the Monk and White haired tall guy

[flint cargo]

You got a double?

[burnt mortar]

Ya

[marble sapphire]

man, discussing about the changes between CBT1 to release in story, i am only getting an increasing sense of pessimism when it comes to the majority of the CN player crowd

ended up on a tangent of such story changes in other games too

[scenic condor]

this looks so bad tho

they rushed the release too much

and it cost the game a lot of goodwill

but im happy they are taking action

i just hate to see all the comments trashing the game and kuro now

people apologizing to genshin and tof for being too harsh

sigh

[marble sapphire]

for me...

if they took the best parts of WW and Genshin + optimization, it would be perfect

....in a different universe perhaps

[young summit]

dont bother with gachagaming ledditors

most cynical miserable people being active here

[vapid prairie]

Why? Knowing the HSR and Genshin community, I rather they remove themselves from this game than have them stay

[young summit]

it also doesnt help that genshin boosted this subreddit count
guess whats this subreddit is consist of

theres also a lot of genshit hate there

wuwa being a genshin "reskin" doesnt help but make them from shitting on genshin to well wuwa

[manic rune]

tbf , leddit is mostly filled with dumbasses to begin with

[vapid prairie]

I'm willing to hear out proper criticism of the game but the things I've been hearing online aren't good arguments.

[scenic condor]

cause it makes me angry that genshin always gets away with everything

but ur right

begone fools

[young summit]

optimization is a serious issue and kuro really fucked up on this department

[fallow tide]

Propper criticism will probably take a while to come

[scenic condor]

at least if wuwa becomes not that popular kuro has to be nice and gib more qol n stuff

[scenic condor]

yea i agree

it was a disaster launch

but

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[manic rune]

if they dont want genshin to improve , thats on them , let them praise the game

so it stays shit

[young summit]

aside from that i guess story is kinda slow and too much jargon being thrown at u

[vapid prairie]

It's not the worst global launch. If the game is fun, then that's all that matter. Look at Palworld earlier this year.

[fallow tide]

With the game being on a lot of people's eyes and also being live service, i think propper criticism will only come after people can get a grasp of the direction that the game is going and the haters get tired and move on

[scenic condor]

we pray

[young forge]

genshin meme reddit full of memes like that

[scenic condor]

yeah and this angers me

hoyo is still a greedy ass shithole but with good polish

maybe im a kuro whiteknight

oh shit

[manic rune]

they are used to being treated like shit , nothing u can do about it

[vapid prairie]

Sunk cost fallacy. Gotta justify why you're staying with Genshin rather than idk "play two games for fun"

[scenic condor]

i just have to stop reading reddit for a couple days

and just stay here in this bubble

[manic rune]

just let the game devs do their thing

and hope it goes well

[vapid prairie]

Man. How do people who actively interact with the Genshin community stay sane?

[manic rune]

depends

[vapid prairie]

There's literally no conflict between WuWa and Genshin till this got forced

[scenic condor]

i have this feeling that if they ditched the liyue stuff and just gone with pgr's universe but open world it would have been less of a "this is genshin reskin" thing

[vapid prairie]

Idk. People make easy comparisons all the time between games.

Besides changing a creative decision of the "liyue stuff" would be bad

[scenic condor]

ig

[marble sapphire]

I usually have a tiny dissociation between Hoyo and Genshin team because I knew for a fact that the Genshin team were new when they were brought to make it, leading to...things that seem rather not as standard

or alot of design flaws

[last nest]

Verina is a lot better than baizhi

[scenic condor]

baizhi fills concerto so slow

[last nest]

Lock who you want but verina is prob the meta pick for hard content

[manic rune]

is this our paimon ?

[marble sapphire]

looks like Fox Yae

[scenic condor]

with hov kiana eyes

omg hi3 copy

[young forge]

and look

live program for 4.7 and Dainslief quest

today

right on time

to hype back up ppl

[last nest]

Pgr world is an irradiated hellhole. Not very fun to explore

[young forge]

as person whos favorite game is New Vegas

i am offended

[last nest]

Fallout world is on way way better state than pgr

[scenic condor]

yeah ig

didnt think that far

underwater explo in the red sea

[last nest]

Pgr outside of Babylonian and few select settlements is uninhabited by humans.

[young forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-show-the-ghoul-cooper-howard-gif-5087114750724411512

URANIUM FEVER

[vapid prairie]

I'll have you know that Mikage Furnace is my favourite location in Genshin

[young forge]

damn red

what a take

[marble sapphire]

when I think of NV I always hear... "I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle~"

[young forge]

there is alot of good songs

[last nest]

Btw fallout universe is artificially kept worse than it should be

[young forge]

like big iron

[last nest]

Cause writers don't understand how fast nature would regrow

[young forge]

metro in that scence closer

yeah

[vapid prairie]

Nah fuck Mikage Furnace. My "hot take" however that it's still a better place to explore than Kokomi's Island

[young forge]

if we talk postapoc

[last nest]

Best postapoc is unironicly Nasuca

[marble sapphire]

nature and civilization

[young forge]

but i am a person who liked Desert region in genshin alot
and whos last played signle game was Sand Land

and GUESS WHATS IN THE SANDLAND

https://tenor.com/view/sand-land-2024-akira-toriyama-bandai-namco-video-game-gif-11317694749778263662

[last nest]

True but at least you can come up with a reason for slow rolling of civilization

[young forge]

yo

[last nest]

Also with followers of Apoc they should all be way more advanced

[young forge]

your patch was fine?

[marble sapphire]

stop right there Anakin

[young forge]

its 3m

https://i.imgur.com/WNF6vsq.png

on this

[last nest]

Wait a bit

Mine took 7 minutes

[young forge]

👍

gonna make some tea

today is exploration day

[vapid prairie]

Fallout New Vegas if Vault 22 was a legitimate threat

[young forge]

its grass one?

[vapid prairie]

Yeah

[young forge]

i fucking hate exploring vault 22

every time i replay the game

i dread 22

cos its ass to go around and navigate

not cos it shard

[vapid prairie]

Subways in Fallout 3 and Vaults in 3 and NV are the only times I use local map on the Pipboy

I would include FNV Sewers as well but very few people know about the sewers in Westside

[marble sapphire]

I once wonder "Why do they always have a China area that players don't seem to like"...but immediately answers come to mind, 1. It's mainly the non CN people who don't like it, not sure about the CN ones, 2. They are a Chinese company based in China making a game for a Chinese audience alongside non Chinese ones" I am a fucking genius

[young forge]

https://i.imgur.com/6xATqze.png

[last nest]

Did you shut the game down irregularlu?

[young forge]

nope

i quit

as normal person

i shut down only hoyo gmaes

cos i cba

[marble sapphire]

https://vxtwitter.com/Razor_Language/status/1793954854710411538?t=ZGwJ8OvF5Oei4LVHOvc-Ng&s=19 too bad I might end up skipping Yinling anyway even if I have notSephy and Verina

[last nest]

Than idk. I had the same shit with pgr before and had to wait an hour for it to finish

[manic rune]

yinlin is just a weapon banner to me

pulling it for encore

[vapid prairie]

Global players: *shits on WuWa launch and criticizes CN setting
Global players: Why do gachas treat CN players better than Global?

[last nest]

I think I will try to win 50 50 on yinlin and than save for Jinhsi

[manic rune]

yinlin weapon then save for changli

hopefully changli is good with encore

[last nest]

Will have to skip changli cause of what comes in 1.2

[manic rune]

who is that what

[marble sapphire]

well, it's less that and more akin to how JP game tends to cater to JP players first in most cases. Game nationality often factors in who they cater to. Simple as that, even if exceptions do exist

[last nest]

The black lotus girl

[marble sapphire]

notable big example today: Blue Archive, actually Korean, but released in and caters to JP first

[last nest]

Azure lane another example

[manic rune]

ah her, im interested in her too

[marble sapphire]

at a glance I might want Jinhsi but I need a better look

[manic rune]

yea , dont know their kit yet

could change my pull target if changli doesnt work well with encore

[vapid prairie]

she tap for 3 mana?

[last nest]

She would tap you for 3 mana if anything

[inland drift]

This take years and i thought it was just me

[quasi moth]

I'm confused

what happened?

[marble sapphire]

what do you think?

I think you might be able to guess

[young forge]

Rough launch

Justification to crawl back

[marble sapphire]

I am a bit of a realist in the sense that no, one thing not doing well or sucking does not make another suddenly better

[quasi moth]

I legitimately dont get it

I only have 20 mins of wuwa on me atm

[marble sapphire]

eh ok then, basically Genshin apologists/WuWa haters spreading anti WuWa rhetoric or going "Genshin was good or perfect actually". Flaming the flame wars

me, WuWa had it's strong points and flaws, but that doesn't mean I am going to say Genshin was good or perfect actually 💀

[quasi moth]

I just kinda dont dig the story atm but the combat is pretty fun

[versed solar]

https://youtu.be/FikQ6OGN_h8?si=Bue3cKaiM3p784Aw nice

[marble sapphire]

people generally agree that the story sucks for the first 1-2 hours

the technical issues were also a problem

[manic rune]

yea , the early story is

[marble sapphire]

I will also grant that WuWa exploration(mobility in particular) and combat feels better than Genshin

[manic rune]

but hey , the combat is challenging and fun

[quasi moth]

GENSHIN COULD NEVER

just show them this

[quasi moth]

tbf ya mention this now

[marble sapphire]

like Genshin could take the whole intro/outro skills thing because I know for a fact that a good number of characters only exist to switch in, E/Q, switch out

[quasi moth]

and then I remember the frame rate issues I had for like a couple of mins

but these kinda things are gonna be fixed

[manic rune]

technical stuffs are bound to happen

[quasi moth]

ye

[manic rune]

not like genshin didnt have those in their early days

[quasi moth]

either way, genshin brainlets need to actually play the game

[quasi moth]

wuwa is still less painful than genshin for me

aether cant naruto run on the walls

what cringe behaviour is that

[manic rune]

my potato of a 4th gen can run the game decently

alrdy good enough for me xd

[quasi moth]

ya yeet

[manic rune]

can probably get to UL25 today

[versed solar]

I'm 22 or 23

[quasi moth]

is that like

the in game level?

[manic rune]

ye

union level

[versed solar]

Like 400 exp away from the next

[marble sapphire]

also I generally feel that they somehow consistently fail or refuse to depict Traveler as doing something cool despite their many achievements

probably mainly a cutscene directing problem

[vapid prairie]

me still below 10 because of assignments

[versed solar]

also the selector is gonna be avaiable for a year

kek

[marble sapphire]

which

[quasi moth]

I am like

[marble sapphire]

it's kind of funny to see the smol girls do that

[quasi moth]

what

5?

[young forge]

good

[quasi moth]

I havent gotten a loli yet but I cant wait to get at least one of them if this is the case

[versed solar]

and 10 lim pull

[quasi moth]

see? genshin could never

[young forge]

and selector

[quasi moth]

I actively hate genshin

[manic rune]

u cant even pet cat/dog in genshin without an event

smh\

[young forge]

we basically now have 3 standart 5* at the start of the game given

[quasi moth]

damn

[young forge]

there is no pet animatin

[quasi moth]

wait, what are the first 2?

[young forge]

only feeding animation

[quasi moth]

I got no idea bout uhh

[manic rune]

at least we have an option

[quasi moth]

wuwa stuff atm

[young forge]

we have novice 50 like HSR
then target 5* standart
and this one

[manic rune]

wait , theres another selector?

[young forge]

check vid

its blogpost from yest translation

[manic rune]

damn

[young forge]

limited pulls and 5* selector on 26th

[quasi moth]

stonks

also

[young forge]

and they adress all porlems
including controller support
optimosation
hit feedback
skip function

[manic rune]

time to

[quasi moth]

tf is this?

[manic rune]

laugh at the rerollers

[quasi moth]

[manic rune]

[young forge]

they hype up new story

right after release of wuwa

cos they stalled MAIN plot with dainslief and your twin

[manic rune]

my friend

[young forge]

for that

[manic rune]

what the fuck

[quasi moth]

kinda sad that genshin players just

didnt get the 10 for all of them

why is it in a raffle

[manic rune]

its been like that for quite some time now

[quasi moth]

I don't get why genshin brainlets exist if that's the case

I like mihoyo cuz they invest in nuclear energy, you like mihoyo cuz of a shitty game

we are not the same

[manic rune]

like , hsr gets 10 every patch

[pseudo wigeon]

I sleep 5-6 hours a day. Wuwa story is so sleeper I can't play it

[vapid prairie]

You ever heard of the Genshin cosplay contest where the top 10 rewards was AirPods or something?

[manic rune]

and genshin needs a damn raffle

[quasi moth]

you WHAT

[manic rune]

like they cant afford to give everyone

[quasi moth]

wait

but this game prints like

70 million a month

[vapid prairie]

h ttps://www.hoyolab.com/contribution/56

[last nest]

Literally just astroturfing

[burnt mortar]

its because genshin is too big to fail

[young forge]

even fkn star rail ones

[burnt mortar]

wuwa has had pretty bad response on release so they are giving free stuff to pacify

which is good

a game being too big to fail is bad for the audience

[young forge]

i mean they went helldivers route

of we done fuck up

we working on it

[quasi moth]

the burning star reward is 2k primogems and an 18 dollar mouse

[manic rune]

too big to fail coz the players are pretty stupid

[quasi moth]

the fuck is wrong with this company

[quasi moth]

Kuro games are usually pretty good with feedback

[last nest]

Hsr at least listens to some feedback unlike genshin

[quasi moth]

but I get what ya mean

hey

at least they are giving sommet

[young forge]

i mean even hsr memes on wuwa sadly

[manic rune]

what different dev teams does to a game

xd

[young forge]

||https://i.imgur.com/8rKLXJn.png ||

here

[quasi moth]

I am still baffled by the 18 dollar mouse as a reward

[young forge]

example

[quasi moth]

[last nest]

Genshin Devs legitimate went - we heard you dislike Paimon taking so we added some more Paimon dialog in next patch

[quasi moth]

I am sure genshin brainlets will like, review bomb wuwa at some point

mark my words

[last nest]

That's because hsr player base is made pretty much of just genshin players lol

[manic rune]

u bet they will

[last nest]

Already did probably

[manic rune]

google classroom

[quasi moth]

hsr playerbase is arguably worse

but that's also cuz of the content creators

[pseudo wigeon]

nah no way

[marble sapphire]

another free 5* selector...

[pseudo wigeon]

only the cc who follow the hype and money

[quasi moth]

maybe it's cuz I am biased cuz I heard hsr drama - a lot of it - in like a fucking month

[marble sapphire]

huh

[last nest]

Hsr player base is ass but I do think the game is in much better state than genshin

[quasi moth]

the whole robin thing on twitter

what the fuck was that

[pseudo wigeon]

whats problem with robin

is it another cc drama

[quasi moth]

I dont even mean toxicity wise; they are dumber

[pseudo wigeon]

you mean "weak unit"?

[quasi moth]

basically someone was like: o what do I do, I like robin.

then some brainlets are like: can't you see? she's a lesbian dumbass

literally no confirmation btw

[last nest]

Some people claimed her as lesbian tectone started crassly trolling them and it blown up

[manic rune]

thats just the minority of the fanbase that are loud

[quasi moth]

it was such a nothingburger of a thing

[manic rune]

that shit was so fking stupid

[pseudo wigeon]

thats natural for every game

just horny gays

[young forge]

we point and laught at rerollers today

[pseudo wigeon]

r/QueensOfLeague

[young forge]

🫵

[manic rune]

rerolling

[quasi moth]

I wouldnt know cuz I dont directly interact with any fandoms

like

[young forge]

slash and his billion reroll accs

😔

[quasi moth]

shadowverse is the only game where I have done that

[marble sapphire]

gameplay wise I guess I should use it on the monk but hmm

[quasi moth]

and that's cuz the community is fucking tiny

[pseudo wigeon]

he will play full 5* while you will not

[quasi moth]

what was he rerolling for anyways?

[young forge]

everyone will

we basically have garanteed 5*

[young forge]

and then 2 target 5*

[pseudo wigeon]

we need 3 teams for endgame

[quasi moth]

3 teams?

[manic rune]

not like the 4* are bad anyway

[quasi moth]

reminds me of pgr

I kinda just wat baizhi

[pseudo wigeon]

you are weak minded and isnt rerollpilled

[young forge]

i have monk
i was debating switching Verina for Encore
now ill get both ig
cos monk girl buffs Encore

[quasi moth]

want*

and then just

live

[pseudo wigeon]

they reroll because they can

[manic rune]

i didnt need to reroll coz i very lucky

[marble sapphire]

thing is, I have Calcharo and Verina. So, gonna be a bit difficult

[manic rune]

not like i would anyway 45 mins for a reroll

[marble sapphire]

it's either monk or encore

[pseudo wigeon]

its ok if you enjoy the process

[young forge]

i mean you roll yinlin and pick what ever

for second team

[pseudo wigeon]

THEY ARE BUFFING SKIP BUTTON

[young forge]

metaslave wise

yes

[pseudo wigeon]

BASED DEVS

[last nest]

I wonder about calcharo

[manic rune]

now that we get another selector

[young forge]

Calcharo is Diluc of WuWa

[manic rune]

i might need to try for yinlin

[last nest]

Cause it looks like Jinhsi will be lightning as well

[young forge]

good early carry

[nocturne tinsel]

PSA

This announcement has not been pushed to global yet
while it is likely that global will recieve the same compensation
do not rely on it until they do so

[young forge]

Magistrate girl

?

[pseudo wigeon]

I wonder: why even write millions lines of garbage story just so everyone would demand a better skip button later

[young forge]

she rumored to be spectre

[last nest]

What compensation?

[young forge]

free 5*

from blogpost

on 26th

[nocturne tinsel]

5* selector and 10 limited pulls

[marble sapphire]

how so

[manic rune]

shes either aero/glacio

[burnt mortar]

giving 1 side a free 5 star and another not when they're attempting to quell dissent would be pretty braindead

[manic rune]

pretty sure

[nocturne tinsel]

main story doesnt have skip avialable
it will after the update

[last nest]

That's crazy

Genshin indeed could never

[nocturne tinsel]

again... don't rely on this until they make a global announcement

[pseudo wigeon]

its in translated apology letter

• optimize skip button
• expand range of skippable
• cutscenes cant be skipped

[pseudo wigeon]

do you see a world where they dont do gibs to global while everyone has google translate + bilibili reposters?

[flint cargo]

how long is the rider boss quest

[pseudo wigeon]

that would be suicidal

[flint cargo]

why am i playing shooting mini game

[pseudo wigeon]

and give them 0 benefits

[nocturne tinsel]

realistically no
but its not outside the realm of possibility

[pseudo wigeon]

I think it is

[nocturne tinsel]

or we could get rewards of similar scale, but not the same rewards

[pseudo wigeon]

their translators are just busy

[manic rune]

looking at the colour between her and jiyan looks like shes glacio

[flint cargo]

yeah she should work with sanhua

[manic rune]

they arent stupid enough to do that when the game alrdy has issues

[pseudo wigeon]

first one is hot

[last nest]

Well, she had thunder effects on her dragons

[pseudo wigeon]

where to get her

[flint cargo]

because they are story related

[nocturne tinsel]

never underestimate the power of sheer incompetence/stupidity

[last nest]

But I guess with 5 selector I can just get both Ecnore Calcharo without a wory

[flint cargo]

1.1

most likely

[manic rune]

and changli should be fusion

[last nest]

Leaked to be in 1.1 alongside the changli

[flint cargo]

jinhsi and changli 1.1

[manic rune]

not really a leak when the devs did it

[marble sapphire]

I'll have to think harder whether I want Jianxin or Encore...

[flint cargo]

im getting changli and make the fusion team with encore

[manic rune]

hopefully changli has a similar outro to yinlin

[pseudo wigeon]

I would believe that happening if they made an ukulele apology

[last nest]

Could also go for dupes for Verina I guess but prob not worth it this early into the game

[nocturne tinsel]

I would like to remind you that despire PGRs relative success, they are still running in the red

[manic rune]

u can exchange for the dupes later on anyway

[last nest]

PGR doesn't actually make that much money tbh

Wuwa is a big gamble

[flint cargo]

PGR launch was way worse

wuwa is fine

[last nest]

They need it to be a lot more profitable than pgr

[nocturne tinsel]

the only standard 5*s that have a shot of aging well are s2 encore, jianxin (heavily reliant on a unit she can break getting printed), calch, and s2 verina

s2 encore s2 verina and calch will age well bc they farm concerto lightning fast

[last nest]

yes I was thinking about s2 verina but prob better to just get more variety for now

[scenic condor]

i dont see how jianxin is any good in abyss-type timed content

[last nest]

And with 50/50 you will eventually get dupes for all of them

[nocturne tinsel]

she is a very good driver with her buffs + outro

[scenic condor]

but..who does she drive?

mortefi and?

[nocturne tinsel]

the only problem is the only unit released worth driving is mortefi, and she's not specatcular at driving him

she's reliant on a future unit she can break getting printed

[burnt mortar]

@young forge what are the chances this game gets a yandere for me to simp for

[nocturne tinsel]

similar to kokomi driving yelan in mono hydro

[burnt mortar]

[pseudo wigeon]

most of their revenue comes from china, they would be giving not less but more to global so they get to stick and spend at least something

[scenic condor]

ig

[young forge]

you want spoilers?

[burnt mortar]

sure

use tags

[young forge]

from leaks

[pseudo wigeon]

for example in lol in euwest server 10 lootboxes cost 13 euro
in ru server you could casually get 70-100 lootboxes for playing the game in the summer event

[marble sapphire]

its only 2 days but it feels so much is happening

[young forge]

looks like || villain girl will be playble||
here link || https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/comments/1cw4ibo/in_case_someone_is_in_doubt/ ||

she was temp added to list of characters

before release

[vapid prairie]

Nah. Her colours are clearly clues to her sexuality like Robin

[young forge]

and removed

[vapid prairie]

[manic rune]

[young forge]

idk if she will be yandere tho

i know Neet like PGR yandere girl

but idk her name

may be she gets a port

@flint cargo whats her name

[last nest]

This is Kuro devs. You should assume that automaticly

[versed solar]

PLS CHANLING USE PISTOLS

[flint cargo]

Uhh you mean Vera?

[young forge]

yeah

Rikku needs yanderes

whats the expy options

[flint cargo]

Wait for yinlin ig

[young forge]

Yinlin strikes me clother to Yae and Yelan from genshin

[flint cargo]

Vera is not even my favorite pgr character

[burnt mortar]

holy shit its fucking GOKU

[young forge]

aka Sassy ones

i played PGR for 15m @last nest
cos bad PC port for controller

so i am unaware

[last nest]

Pretty much all villains become playable in pgr(unless their male)

[flint cargo]

This is my real fav

[scenic condor]

oh balter

poor girl

cant catch a break

[flint cargo]

It's such a unapologetic Saber face

[scenic condor]

aye

especially with that skin

[flint cargo]

That I have to respect it

[young forge]

chixia dupe

WHY I CANT GET NEW UNITS

[scenic condor]

rigged

[quasi moth]

balter is hot

also

[scenic condor]

i only got chixias and weps from jiyan banner so far

[quasi moth]

when do I get to summon for units?

[last nest]

In the lab

[scenic condor]

lv4ish

[quasi moth]

gotcha

[scenic condor]

after u go thru the part with baizhi and mortefi

[young forge]

WE SO BACK

https://i.imgur.com/M527T0O.jpeg

[scenic condor]

poggers

[flint cargo]

Is that witch girl the "alpha" of this game

[young forge]

chixia go away

your only good point is that your skill name is Ork Warhammer reference

[flint cargo]

I used her for a bit

[young forge]

and you are hot

[last nest]

The alpha of the game is Scar

[young forge]

DAKA DAKA

https://tenor.com/view/dakka-tabletop-dungeoneers-discord-orcs-irks-gif-22814163

[flint cargo]

Ugh

[young forge]

Chixia is not that fun in terms of combo loop

i like her ult

mortefi dosent work well with Danjin

does he

[burnt mortar]

Scar must become playable vro

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-scar-shanghen-kuro-games-gif-10372311898058431639

[wind pawn]

Yes

Is pgr separate story or prequel

[manic rune]

separate

[last nest]

Since he is a mix of alpha and Roland he prob will

[last nest]

Pgr world is simultaneously too advanced and too dead to be a prequel

[young summit]

can still pull a mihoyo and how its a multiverse shenanigans

[young summit]

domain expansion

[last nest]

Could be but doubt

But we will prob get a pgr crossover eventually

No way they won't sell you alpha for a third time

[scenic condor]

wait we get another selector?

[last nest]

Yes. And 10 limited pulls on 26th

Well china gets it but good assumed other servers will as well

[scenic condor]

but is it a straight up selector?

or another 80pull banner

[young forge]

no confirmation for global
only bili post
with selector on 26th

[manic rune]

str8 up selector in mail

[scenic condor]

i mean if they only give it for cn

then there's gonna be hell

[versed solar]

Yeah

They are gonna piss a lot of people

[last nest]

No way they won't

[young summit]

who will be in the selector?

[last nest]

They copied every selector from pgr to global

[young summit]

is it just from the novice banner thing

[quasi moth]

yea i'm skippong this story

[last nest]

Yes

[young summit]

nooooooo

[quasi moth]

I am literally falling asleep

[young summit]

i shouldnt have choose notSepiroth as my beginner banner then

[last nest]

Fair play yo kuro for listening to criticism and trying to fix it

[young summit]

or that banner gonna rot in my acc without me pulling

[versed solar]

i think u can change it?

[last nest]

It gets a lot better from village and onwards

[young summit]

i reached the village

[last nest]

Pre village it's pretty bad

[young summit]

this scar guy kinda yapped too much at least theres a dialogue option to keep trying to attack him

[young forge]

wait @flint cargo
i can press heavy atk with Jianxin in exp farming stage right after i press start
and by the time i finish full charged Chi atk i kill everyone with that aoe

[young summit]

[young forge]

[flint cargo]

Yeah

[scenic condor]

oh you can skip prologue and act 1 ???

wait so rerolls become a lot easier

[young summit]

go find clues to read muh more exposition

"yeah im just gonna try talking to u and chose to attack u instead

[young forge]

but less needed

if new selector is up

[scenic condor]

yea im not gonna reroll

i took the lose with jian

i'll roll on jiyan to see who i lose to

[flint cargo]

Guess I'll take Verina on that selector

[scenic condor]

and hten pick up verina and calc

[last nest]

He has some interesting things to aay

[marble sapphire]

yes you can

[flint cargo]

I skip all the shit he said

And just choose fight

Because I wanted the heat

[inland drift]

Yeah

It took me 35 min or something to reroll

[flint cargo]

Not like it matters If you choose to hear what he said vs just fight him

(Even though that make no sense)

[versed solar]

i didnt needed to reroll i got all the 5 i wanted in 20 pulls

[flint cargo]

Gacha game dialog tree pogger

[versed solar]

the selector for me is just a bonus

encore is gonna be nice

lol

[zealous grove]

Selector is for upgrading Encore

[flint cargo]

I'm thinking about it

S1 encore

[versed solar]

s1 verina and calcharo do something?

[last nest]

Feels kind of bad to be getting all this free shit when the only problem I've had was the text not scrolling down

[sand zinc]

S1 Verina or S1 Encore

[last nest]

S1 Verina is jut more helaing no?

[quasi moth]

I cannot be bothered

I’m skipping this story

[last nest]

S2 Verina is the power one

[last nest]

"Wait why does the story suck and not explain anything?"(s)

[inland drift]

Me with my S1 yangyang

[inland drift]

True

[versed solar]

my biggest problem was cutscene yapping and some super light stuttering

which was annoying

[last nest]

i wish I was joking but this exact comment you hear from skippers in every gacha...People just have no sense of self

[marble sapphire]

does S1 Encore do anything big?

[last nest]

Think Encore is also S2 for big spike

[weak jay]

[inland drift]

Kyle

My dps is yangyang xd

[weak jay]

Mc useless then

[versed solar]

isnt yangyang a battery?

lmao

[weak jay]

🚮

Trup always built different

[inland drift]

Idk i just use her for all

[manic rune]

havoc mc is pretty neat

[inland drift]

My team is mc yangyang and verina

[manic rune]

same xd

pretty pog

[vocal ginkgo]

KEEP FAILING KURO

I WANT MORE FREE SHIT

[inland drift]

Nice

[inland drift]

Yeah lmao

Keep having all the issues with the game and give us more free stuff

[vocal ginkgo]

The community needs to find more game breaking bugs and doom post

[marble sapphire]

to my understanding, Yangyang is battery + has nice CC ult

[vocal ginkgo]

I'm running rover, taoqi, verina atm

[inland drift]

Yeah it make sense tbh

[versed solar]

cal verina and yangyang for me

[vocal ginkgo]

It's weird, I don't vibe with any of the 5 stars

[inland drift]

Its not weird

My fav character (for combat and exploration) is yangyang

[young summit]

yeah kinda miss with them ngl

except the notSepiroth but just becuz he reminds me of watanabe

[vocal ginkgo]

I wanna play the bodyguard

[young summit]

yinlin is not here yet

[vocal ginkgo]

Shes my vibe

[inland drift]

Gonna skip this banner and get her

[vocal ginkgo]

The one everyone gets on day 5

[versed solar]

changlin is the char im most looking foward

dont look at my pfp

[vocal ginkgo]

[young summit]

got her early

[inland drift]

What does changlin do?

[vocal ginkgo]

Whi

[marble sapphire]

which watanabe

[vocal ginkgo]

Who is that

[young summit]

yes

the weird line on his 4head is definitely barcode watanabe

[vocal ginkgo]

I was talking about sanhua

[young summit]

wait

[vocal ginkgo]

Gimme

[young summit]

yeah thats sanhua

💀

[inland drift]

Yeah

Thats sanhua

[marble sapphire]

they say Sanhua is a good subdps for Calcharo, at least free

[pseudo wigeon]

Idk the drama feels blown out of proportion

It isn't cyberpunk on release guys

(I never played on pc)

The skip button is just sad to me

[marble sapphire]

most definitely, Genshin fandom is involved after all

[pseudo wigeon]

• write better story
• if you don't have resources write less goddamit

[last nest]

Cyberpunk drama was diffrent, They overpromised, overhyped and underdelivered but at least on Pc the game was pretty playable quite fast

[pseudo wigeon]

It was bugged

[last nest]

Skip button is litteraly the top request every time in Genshin/HSR survues

[inland drift]

Yeah

[last nest]

Doesn't matter how good the story is. A lot of people still want to skip it

[pseudo wigeon]

Well, sure

[marble sapphire]

on top of huge crunch

[pseudo wigeon]

They technically have a skip button

[last nest]

And tbf I got them. I have zero interest reading dumb Itto shit for the third time this year

[young summit]

its mainly also fucking up the big boys ( sony and xbox ) cuz it cannot whatsoever run on so promised xbox360 and ps4 so people who bought it on them just massive refund

[pseudo wigeon]

Lmao

[inland drift]

Itto shit lmao

[last nest]

He was alright in his char quest 3 years ago. Since than every time he shows up it's somehow got worse and worse

[pseudo wigeon]

Cyberpunk has no competition tho, closest is 5 years old Deus Ex
They got all the time to make the game great

[last nest]

Cyberpunk competition is GTA I feel

[pseudo wigeon]

Gacha live service is much harsher

[young summit]

the competition is expectation for gta 6

[inland drift]

Its itto what did u expect from him if its not random bs

[pseudo wigeon]

Naaah, a lot of people just like sci-fi or like gang stories. They would never compare those games "play this or that"

[young summit]

u give them too much credit

[last nest]

end of the day it doesn't matter. CDPR recovered their reputation and went back to Witcher anyway

After all the promises by people to never trust them again lol

[pseudo wigeon]

Witcher 3 release was a drama

[young summit]

they deadass hoping it to fill the hole of rockstar not doing any gta 6 and milking gta online

[pseudo wigeon]

People should trust no one in this day and age

[young summit]

companies are not your friend

their expectation is always to exploit you even as a worker for them let alone being their customer

[pseudo wigeon]

"reputation" part will never again to me include "expect them to release a polished playable game"

[young summit]

[last nest]

Except our lord and master KMR. Not sponsored tm

[pseudo wigeon]

I took cyberpunk after dlc and 2?0 dropped, best decision

[young summit]

yeah had a friend liking cyberpunk so much cuz of that too

[last nest]

This. Honestly was crazy how much everone was glazing them before Cyberpunk

[pseudo wigeon]

I bought 3 games on release and they all were big shit. Some recovered but still shit on release

[young summit]

definitely a good game but the launch was horrible optimization and ruin its image

[pseudo wigeon]

Artifact fucking scammed me

[young summit]

artifact

valve?

[pseudo wigeon]

Yes

[young summit]

[last nest]

I get that Witcher 3 was a good game with a great story but it was reaching the old Blizzard levels were you couldn't say a bad word about the company witout getting dogpilled

[young summit]

oh my god

my condolences

[last nest]

Artifact was so funny

[young summit]

valve is NEVER trying to hype up their game after artifact

[pseudo wigeon]

I thought game was fine and "it's ok for CCG" then they went dead silent and stopped doing updates

[last nest]

It really helped pushing my agenda that Richard Garfield didn't know WTF he was doing with mtg and basicly insanely lucked out

[young summit]

i think main issue is they try to make it TCG tho?

cards are paywalled through the market

and u need to pay to play the tour mode?

[pseudo wigeon]

MTG was made in a different era

In hecking 90ies

Or 80es idk

[young summit]

being the pioneer helps

valve with steam right now

[last nest]

Yes but his ideas very terrible in the long run

[young summit]

tru

(dk anything about mtg)

[last nest]

He legitematly argued that any broken card is fine cause they will be too expensive for people on the playground to have

[young summit]

LOL

[pseudo wigeon]

And he flopped on monetization model in a tight market, when on mtg release it worked anyway because of a revolutionary genre

[last nest]

Why do you think Artifact was paywalled in the first place?

[young summit]

they try to copy mtg

?

[pseudo wigeon]

He is a mathematician. Can't expect any empathy from them

[pseudo wigeon]

Yes 100%

[last nest]

yes pretty much. Except in real life cards hold actuall resale vallue

[young summit]

wait refresh me up

the game designer for artifact was

an mtg dev?

[pseudo wigeon]

Mtg monetization with a market of reselling cards

[last nest]

Richard Channing Garfield the inventor of mtg

[pseudo wigeon]

The og creator

[young summit]

i was remembering they hyping the artifact designer as some

damn

[pseudo wigeon]

They don't

[young summit]

yeah

[pseudo wigeon]

It's a sham

[young summit]

damn thats

a sham

shame

[pseudo wigeon]

MTG is just too big to fall

[last nest]

I know they don't. It's just a cope used by tcg players

[young summit]

i guess valve biggest mistake is actually putting the game responsibility on this dude

[last nest]

When they try to explaing me why it's tottaly cool to pay for 1000 dollar snake eyes deck rather than build it for 0 dollars in master duel

[young summit]

[pseudo wigeon]

You can print any cards you like for around 0$ if you have a good printer

[young summit]

felt like artifact could have been alive if it went through heartstone/shadoba route instead

wdy think

[pseudo wigeon]

Yes

[last nest]

Valve is in that wierd spot were they are insnaely succusfull due to steam that they stopped giving any fucks about proper game development

[pseudo wigeon]

It was a complex but fun game

[last nest]

Their structure of game dev is legitimately the worst in buisness

[pseudo wigeon]

There are worse

Well, artifact is the worst, sure
But everything else is not the bottom

[last nest]

No the games themselves are mostly fine

It's the way they are made that's the problem. They don't have usual vericle chain of command and devs basicly do whatever they want

Often redoing the work already done by another dev

[pseudo wigeon]

Some big studio sells a Jedi game with "dlc" on release for 130$

[pseudo wigeon]

Wow, I could never guess

I've heard positive comments about their virtual reality half life alyx

Looks giga sus

But other sites confirm the praise

[last nest]

Alyx was actually pretty good. Their Vr department is the only one that is functional this days

Also of course it's not the cancelled half life 3

[pseudo wigeon]

Do they have other departments

[last nest]

well people who made artifact are still there

[pseudo wigeon]

Wdym

[last nest]

Plus Icefrog and whoever he is forcing to work at that moment

[pseudo wigeon]

Idk dota 2 isn't bad in it's development

Pissed moba players always exist because they can't accept the reality of working with 4 humans or getting outplayed in a complex game

But dota does a lot of great shit

As a league player I have some perspective on bigger design choices

[maiden skiff]

^this tbh

[last nest]

Yes dota is good but it's mainly just Icefrog

[pseudo wigeon]

Well I have no clue how their kitchen works

One person can't develop it all

Having good leadership undoubtedly helps

As we see with blizzard on opposing end

[summer wedge]

After months of hearing genshin killer, wuwa can't play the victim card after fucking up the launch

Getting clowned on is deserved

[pseudo wigeon]

"Genshin killer" statement was born in broad media, not coming from devs

If we look at things objectively they pretty much can play victim card

[fathom fjord]

Nah ur not

I have more faith in kuro than fking hoyo

Given the current state of hi3 and gi

[pseudo wigeon]

You prefer game depth over polish

[last nest]

Genshin killer claimed by genshin players and now used by genshin players to clown on the game they don't play. Notice the common theme here?

[pseudo wigeon]

Lmao 3.3 on Google Play

Every review is either "great game" or "fucking crushed"

P2W before loading

[vapid prairie]

Google Play reviews is the customer service panel

[last nest]

It was 4.6 yesterday for me so this is prob a bombing effort by you know who

[pseudo wigeon]

Wait

Why they show reviews from 21/5/2024

[versed solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694209753982828594/1243577511653412965/Screenshot_2024-05-24_164859.png?ex=6651fb4f&is=6650a9cf&hm=b72e3fcfb5bab12d69bd1f1fb1ed6c1a127e78b5f85acf0383e452734700f3a9&

old story better

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694209753982828594/1243579602128076860/Screenshot_2024-05-24_165728.png?ex=6651fd41&is=6650abc1&hm=333308d69fc682e3963a7448f8abfaed8b9aeb633fee6da51dff936ab6a6353b&

cn butthurt

[pseudo wigeon]

Huh?

Bro game is not out STFU

[vapid prairie]

Yeah some people 1 starred the game during download

Like bro. This isn't the customer service panel

[last nest]

That's taken wildly out of context. The story was pretty bad outside of that

[versed solar]

ik lmao

[last nest]

and honestly I don't mind the glazing that much.

[versed solar]

i would have loved a darker story

[last nest]

At least the mc actually does something usefull unlike say traveler in Fountain

[pseudo wigeon]

The problem is - still deserved. If people feel bad they will post a bad review.
Why the fuck it was open before launch?

[manic rune]

he is complaining about it crashing before it even go to login screen its not about launch or not

[pseudo wigeon]

IDC, comments should be closed before release

[scenic condor]

more fkin chixia dupes. i swear jiyan banner only have me chixia and weps. nothing else

[vapid prairie]

Traveller takes care of 3 separate threats to Fontaine. However, that doesn't count the Archon quest. Just the world ones

[last nest]

Traveler in the world quests = Hypercompetent problem solver saving the day. Traveler in archon quest = useless prat who can be replaced by a dog with zero plot impact

[vapid prairie]

Actually 4 if you count Pishav's problem but that's more local

[manic rune]

take care of threats but still useless in gameplay

at least make them somewhat usable

[vapid prairie]

Traveller at Inazuma Act 1: Why should I care about the war? You don't need my help for this
Ayaka: Fuck you. Help NPCs
Yae Miko at Act 3: We really didn't need your help for this.

[last nest]

Well they needed somebody to absord the visions from the statue tbh

[vapid prairie]

They had the Warlord Teppei himself

[shy lotus]

"Why do gachas treat CN players better than global?" The hi3 rabbit suit accident

https://fxtwitter.com/SipSipStefen/status/1793985930401140801?t=Huj5iT3q8-VfAVASWvHQog&s=19 saw this

Thanks Wuwa for advertising genshin again because of the "Genshin could never"

We have a quote in genshin

"It's always xiangling"

[vapid prairie]

Can the Genshin people keep dooming this game so they can keep themselves from joining the WuWa community?

[versed solar]

tbh chinese settings are getting boring

its the same stuff in all games

dargons festivals woo

[last nest]

Prob withc china setting is that you have to have it if you deving in china

And also you can't get to creative or historical cause the party watches over you

[manic rune]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1794025519521972554

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves) on X

Dear Rovers,
After yesterday's post, we have some new updates to share with you regarding our future plans for game improvements.

• We plan to make every type of story content skippable in future updates, giving you more control over your gameplay. Most of the story content will

Twitter · May 24, 2024, 3:19 PM

confirmed

[shy lotus]

Oh lol

I just check to confirm a few seconds. Before

[last nest]

The Companion Story for Resonator Yinlin will be available in-game soon.

I hope they make this companion storries for every 5 star going forward

[marble sapphire]

this is a real Genshin could never moment

[last nest]

I am still peeved that only lion boy got his

[pseudo wigeon]

Me counting 1500th biblical reference in a western movie ( I only watch superhero bs after work)

[vapid prairie]

They should do that meme where skipping a cutscene sends you to the most random situation. Skip this cutscene? Get jumped by a level 99 boss fight

[manic rune]

dude , genshin cant even give u a 5* as a beginner

unless they changed that

[vapid prairie]

Wdym. They keep diluting the pool

[last nest]

Skip the cutscene? Wake up in bath with a bear

[manic rune]

here , take a noelle

[marble sapphire]

they didnt

...maybe in 5.0 but eh yeah

after 4 years and almost 5...

maybe you shouldnt try to huff copium

[last nest]

They won't cause Genshin devs are legit super stingy mofos

[shy lotus]

Why would they give u

Look at all the free advertising

[last nest]

They are fully on "sense of pride and accomplishment" line of thought

That's irrelevent tbh. Genshin doesn't get new players outside of annual region release

[manic rune]

exact mindset that make genshin shit

[vapid prairie]

"We know you mfs are addicted and you just proved it by apologising to us"

[manic rune]

[shy lotus]

Yeah that's why

[vapid prairie]

Like bro. You can play two games

[manic rune]

keep protecting the billion dollar company

[last nest]

I have to say people that doompost really didn't make it out of the first 2 hours of the game. When you venture outside of starting area their are a lot of pretty sights to explore

[manic rune]

u would hope genshin gets a dev team change like what hi3 got

[versed solar]

yo wdym gi is so generous

they increased the abyss primos to 800

[manic rune]

from what i heard , early hi3 years were also stingy

until they changed dev teams

[versed solar]

cause it had the same director gi had

[manic rune]

^

[versed solar]

lmao

[shy lotus]

[manic rune]

now hsr director manages hi3 too xd

[last nest]

Genshin pretty much prides itself on being not like the other girls(gachas)

[shy lotus]

And it won't change unfortunately

[marble sapphire]

it was one of the first of its kind

and being the pioneer helps

[last nest]

First of it's kind in never giving any freebies to the playerbase no matter how bad the game got, true

[manic rune]

they also increased the resin cap

[burnt mortar]

First of its kind + released during lockdown

[versed solar]

wewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[shy lotus]

And it's competitors keep making mistakes so it won't even lose players

[versed solar]

only took 4 years

[young summit]

its been 4 years?

wtf

[versed solar]

iirc yes

[burnt mortar]

When Genshin released it was called BOTW rip off too :derp:

[last nest]

I love that genshin fun brig this up as a great impovement when HSR has a cap of I think 2000 or something

[versed solar]

if not 4 almost

[manic rune]

they just had 3rd anni this year iirc

3 and half at most

[versed solar]

it was in october or so wasnt it

[shy lotus]

Last year

September

[manic rune]

oh , the 3 pulls was lunar new year

[versed solar]

so i got wrong but yeah 3 years to add more endgame and resin cap

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[manic rune]

[vapid prairie]

I wonder why Genshin is simply a more polished game than WuWA. Sounds like skill issue on Kuro tbh

[marble sapphire]

240, and also, what made me raise an eyebrow is that Genshin is 1 energy per 8 mins. Industry standard is...1 energy per 6 mins, which is intuitive because its 10 energy per hour

yes 1 energy per 8 mins works for like 160(or 180) daily cap but...geez

[shy lotus]

They risked with genshin and it paid off

[last nest]

you can safely go into overcap in HSr cause it gets storred in additional charges

[marble sapphire]

those people have nostalgia goggles and dont remember the first year

[last nest]

So effectivly the energy cap is MUCH higher than in genshin

[manic rune]

just that its not recommended to do so

the reserve is a lot slower than normal rate

[shy lotus]

Letting it overcap bricks ur account

[last nest]

This is the same company, they know that people were complaning about resing since day 1. never bothered to fix it and can't even implement the better system they have in their other game

[shy lotus]

[marble sapphire]

Genshin was developed by a completely new team afaik

[last nest]

Well it's better than nothing

Which you get in genshin

[marble sapphire]

in a way, that led to innovation, but also some inherent design flaws

[manic rune]

reserve is only for when u actually have no way to play the game

[manic rune]

same company , different director

[last nest]

Well I am in daily only mode in genshin at this point so for me reserve would have worked well

[shy lotus]

Like Hiroyuki said, it's also a different team

So not even the same employees

[manic rune]

the genshin director is pretty hated

[vapid prairie]

Yeah because I sure as hell remember that Liyue Act 2 and half of Act 3 is doing random chores with Zhongli. And that's good story

and here I thought Penacony Act 2 was useless

[manic rune]

the genshin 1st anniversary will be remembered

F for google classroom

they still havent recovered

[last nest]

Liyue story was hard carried by good Childe fight

[quasi moth]

I literally fell asleep mid play through of the story

Imma just watch the gameplay after I catch up

[last nest]

Wuwa healing insomnia now. Kurodevs are true miracle workers

[shy lotus]

Roll tide 🙏

[open copper]

Reddit is pretty much worthless.
Site is very easy to bot, and the upvote/downvote pretty much kills any discussion.

[versed solar]

who

[young summit]

furry paimon

[manic rune]

ur pokemon