Wuthering Waves

[marble sapphire]

The devs also sent some positive pictures in support of the WuWa launch

There’s no need for petty rivalry among developers - they have great confidence in the game they made, and there’s always room to see others succeed

It’s only fans who bother to act toxic when game companies aren’t going to care. China mobile gamers gotta go out and touch grass``` anyway, its fans mainly raising shit it seems since i think Kuro and Hoyo relations are that of friendly rivals ![KEKW](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/818462009321586741.webp?size=128 "KEKW")

[shy lotus]

the devs are fine with each other lmao

[ocean pivot]

[shy lotus]

its the fanbase that causes the troublem yeah

[last nest]

Well kuro is way to small to threaten MHY

[scenic condor]

bet they are shaking hands and laughin at the fanbases

[shy lotus]

Kuro X Genshin collab

[ocean pivot]

misha x me collab

[open copper]

The best part is that the “Genshin is just doing it’s thing” bit is straight-up fake, since the Devs just announced they will raise the Stamina Cap.

[shy lotus]

[marble sapphire]

you say this but theres a non zero chance

[shy lotus]

bro that increase is legit nothing

[ocean pivot]

why does closing game log me out of wuwa

[scenic condor]

there was that random post on gachagaming that said that shanghai based gacha devs had a meeting and theres a voice recording that proves that they are all scared of SNOWBREAK

[last nest]

And in general I don't remember any cloak and dagger games from MHY to their rivails. That was always more of Tencent area

[shy lotus]

they arent threathened

[marble sapphire]

which could not have been in response to WW because these decisions take time down the pipeline

[open copper]

Reddit is pretty worthless, very easy for corporations to just bot stuff

[shy lotus]

if they did, they wouldve added the stamina bank

its also planned way ahead

[marble sapphire]

nah, that one was most possibly made up and questionable

[scenic condor]

ofc

but it's hilarious

just the thought of it

[vapid prairie]

How do you make Metroidvanias without copying Metroid or Castlevania? How do you make soulslikes without copying Dark Souls? How do you make an open world gacha game in 2020 without copying Breath of the Wild?

[last nest]

Come on, nobody is actaully scared of Snowbreak

[scenic condor]

^

[shy lotus]

eh, i think genshin changed themselves allot from BOTW

sure the mondstadst start is botw, but it gets an aidentit yof its own later on

[vapid prairie]

Did that prevent them from being called a BOTW clone?

[scenic condor]

so why cant we give wuwa the same benefit of the doubt

[shy lotus]

because wuwa is more of a copy than genshin was a copy

[ocean pivot]

how do i make wuwa keep me logged in

[shy lotus]

idk

[vapid prairie]

That's the neat thing

[scenic condor]

only thing i dont like in wuwa is the million echo subs

[last nest]

I liked Wuva start more than genshin 1.0 tbh. People forget how baren on content genshin was on launch day

[scenic condor]

how the fuck is anybody gonna make decent cv

[open copper]

Monstadt is genuinely boring, but the environment steps-up massively with Liyue.

[shy lotus]

you know whats funny, you can get double crit subs on a crit main stat

[ocean pivot]

when i first started genshin i told my friends it would be better to wait a few years then play, i was right

[scenic condor]

mondstadt is still my favorite region

[scenic condor]

but the subs maaaan. so many subs

[open copper]

Straight-up hacking it. A lot of Wuwa shit is in the Client side, for a GAAS.

[scenic condor]

oh

oh no

is this gonna end up like relink?

[ocean pivot]

just cus it's client side doesnt mean hacking is ez

[last nest]

Enviromental design is where Genshin will always have upperhand over Wuva cause Wuva goes for more gritty post apoc style rather than high fantasy of genshin

[scenic condor]

where everybody just hacks it to pieces

[flint cargo]

From reading around it feel like I dodge a bullet by playing this on mobile instead of PC

[shy lotus]

the game is still connected server side wise lol

[scenic condor]

i quit that shit cause i got tired of goin into fights and ppl 1tapping bosses cuz haha funni hack

[ocean pivot]

Client side is so ping doesnt fk you in combat

[marble sapphire]

that one is a player preference thing

[shy lotus]

the numbers enemies get when they get damaged is server side

[vapid prairie]

I've seen enough Palworld discourse and do not want to repeat it. But the main conclusion is the games copy each other all the time. It happened with fighting games, it happened with hero shooters after Overwatch and it happened with battle royales which turned into the live service "meta".

[marble sapphire]

and so far we only have seen one region

[last nest]

They will prob ban you for hacking client side so I wouldn't advice

[scenic condor]

wouldnt dream of it

[last nest]

Even simple genshin visual mods are very grea area

[shy lotus]

im just so tired of CN stuff right now

like someone said

"we start off in liyue"

[scenic condor]

yea xd

i said that

[shy lotus]

gimme my mexico region

my philliphines region

[last nest]

That's why PGR was the best cause they started off with China nuked off the map

[vapid prairie]

"Fallout New Vegas bad because set in US and I hate US-themed areas"

[flint cargo]

It's all CN right?

[shy lotus]

[flint cargo]

Not like we gonna another region based on like Russia or something

[shy lotus]

maybe later regions

not sure though

[last nest]

No? We are told there other countries out there

[vocal ginkgo]

should play limbus company

[last nest]

I assume they will not all be CN

[vocal ginkgo]

we in a shithole dystopian city scape

no space china

[manic rune]

u guys will see him as PINGU

[vocal ginkgo]

no china period

we got gangs and corpos against each other

[scenic condor]

god that game's gameplay is so ASSSSSSSSSSSSS

[marble sapphire]

from a design standpoint it seems a bit limiting if you are restricted to only one overall cultural area anyway

[scenic condor]

i wanted to get into it cuz hot men but i looked at the footage and noped out

[vapid prairie]

Of all the pictures of Pingu. Why pick a cursed one where he shows his teeth

[marble sapphire]

so its most likely not gonna just be notChina

[shy lotus]

god i hope they dont copy genshin's regions

[vocal ginkgo]

pretty fun once u can understand the mechanics

[shy lotus]

give me other places

[scenic condor]

i mean

this is just basic game design

we will have a desert region

we will have underwater shit

we will have volcanic shit

this is present in most games

genshin didnt invent basic region themes

[vapid prairie]

Copy Mario region design

[shy lotus]

i mean i know but like, not a 1:1

[vocal ginkgo]

sci fi open world where are the mechas and gundams

[shy lotus]

like imagine a french wuwa

[scenic condor]

current region isnt 1:1 liyue either

[open copper]

Mario Odyssey is unironically peak.

[scenic condor]

and it cant be

cause wuwa is set in a more sci-fi world

[last nest]

Somewhat true but Genshin did chose specific countries like France and Germany for 2 of the regions

[scenic condor]

rather than high fantasy

[vapid prairie]

Or maybe add one of Miyazaki poison swamp

[last nest]

We could have something more interesting like Italy and Balkans

[shy lotus]

a canada region

[vocal ginkgo]

subterranean caverns where

[scenic condor]

balkans kek

you want old drunk babushkas throwing alcohol bottles at us?

[last nest]

Also I am tired of every snow region ever always being Russia. Come on their other countries where it snows other than Russia

[vocal ginkgo]

greenland

they still believe in elves

[last nest]

The region we are guranteed to get is Not!Japan

have to pander to the weebs

[nocturne tinsel]

it has some top tier husbandos

[scenic condor]

i know

[nocturne tinsel]

gregor

[scenic condor]

but bottom tier gameplay

[nocturne tinsel]

[vocal ginkgo]

wuthering heights was so fucking good

them reveals going off one after another

heathcliff the goat

[nocturne tinsel]

how far did you get into limbus btw?

[vocal ginkgo]

me? im caught up

[nocturne tinsel]

ariel

[scenic condor]

i never played it

i looked at gameplay footage

and it looked ass

so i just noped

[nocturne tinsel]

give it a shot
its a lot more than match the colors

[ocean pivot]

limbus company, otis doko

[nocturne tinsel]

(match the colors wasnt even viable until a few months ago)

[vocal ginkgo]

THEM TATS

[scenic condor]

nah that ship has sailed. starting a gacha late is not something i do anymore. also i dont wanna add more gachas. im fine with having 4 but no more

[nocturne tinsel]

qcliff peak

[marble sapphire]

that would actually be hilarious ngl

[vocal ginkgo]

i want somethign bombastic with superweapons and shit going off between nations

[scenic condor]

i want

[vocal ginkgo]

that would be a wild ride of a setting

[scenic condor]

more

hot men

please

[ocean pivot]

advance wars gacha

[vocal ginkgo]

hot men threatening world peace

[scenic condor]

i want a hot man healer

not main dps

please

[vocal ginkgo]

with a little bit of genocide

[ocean pivot]

luocha

[scenic condor]

i know it's a fem role but pls

give me a baizhu

luocha

anything

and give me playable yhan

thats my dream

he doesnt look npc to me

[shy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/failed-skateboard-trick-minna-stess-skater-skateboard-tricks-skateboarding-gif-27029663

verina

[vocal ginkgo]

aight last limbus post from me

[ocean pivot]

no otis posting

[scenic condor]

any more and waza will have to open up a limbus thread

[vocal ginkgo]

doubt

people cant read

[scenic condor]

cuz all waza is doing as a mod is creating random gacha threads

[vocal ginkgo]

u have to read

or u fucked against hte bosses

and they are legit tough

[scenic condor]

no kyostinv?

or equivalent of it

[vocal ginkgo]

[ocean pivot]

Sanhua doko

Where is my wuwa hag

[scenic condor]

sanhua so pog

actual pog design

like this is what ayaka should have been

snappy ass bitch

[nocturne tinsel]

@young forge please do this

I beg of you

[vocal ginkgo]

not too many CC for limbus, just small uploads here and there

[ocean pivot]

Wet socks not doko

[vocal ginkgo]

but the game still makes bank

and steam #s in the 33k players

[scenic condor]

i kinda wish jiyan was female

so i could skip

cuz gameplay is so sleep

but hey i always wanted na xiao in genshin to happen

and now it happened

[ocean pivot]

Lament

[scenic condor]

ah man i really like baizhi kit

asnfkasnflknfk

be male pls

i'll trade you for jiyan

[shy lotus]

yelan

[scenic condor]

yelan?

[vocal ginkgo]

actually thinking about it now

theres not a lot of settings based off of south america is there?

either mesoamerica or present age

[shy lotus]

my vehicule

her charge attack traveling allot

and the echoes that summons a biker

[scenic condor]

aaah

yea

biker is cool af

[steep blaze]

Yeah

[scenic condor]

and you can chain it together

[steep blaze]

Idk about bike but

[scenic condor]

with other chars

and then no cooldown

so good

[steep blaze]

Verina travel is fun

But where the heal part of her

[shy lotus]

the biker feels oddly slow half wa through it

its weird lol

[marble sapphire]

funny how I seem to only be partial to male guys with spear and wind powers in general...it's there but I look at all the people who love those archetypes

[vapid prairie]

Hey guys. I need help with someone's elementary school work. How do I do this?

[ocean pivot]

Context clues so good

[marble sapphire]

more context needed

[vocal ginkgo]

you need to simplify that langauge

also what dou mean u need help with someones's elementary school work

whats the assignment

[vapid prairie]

Playing this game without calling every dialogue term-dumping

[scenic condor]

early it was too much term dumping tho

they shoudl have eased us into it

im not asking for paimon level kindergarden talk

[ocean pivot]

The eternal world building problem of how familiar does a world need to be

[scenic condor]

just like cut the technoblabla to like 50%

and ramp it up over time

[vocal ginkgo]

are you giving that image to the kid?

[scenic condor]

especially doesnt help that it's all random cn words

[ocean pivot]

Didnt feel like technobabble to me really

Just replace X word with Y

for setting

[vapid prairie]

Yeah but the game gives you dialogue choices for additional context if you couldn't use context clues anyway.

[steep blaze]

[ocean pivot]

[steep blaze]

I can take 3 days learning math

[vocal ginkgo]

i am lost in this conversation

[steep blaze]

But writing? Nah

[ocean pivot]

i am lost in your eyes

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. Snowbreak is more technobabble than this right?

[ocean pivot]

ignore that

[ocean pivot]

yes

[vocal ginkgo]

snowbreak is fun

[ocean pivot]

Technobabble for me is when they start explaining stuff that is obviously magic in bullshit science words

cough honkai

[scenic condor]

cue the moon chapter ptsd

[ocean pivot]

With this game they really just replacing words
Dragon? no its Loong, etc

[open copper]

Technobabble for me is the use of scientific-sounding words to make something look smart.

[vocal ginkgo]

counterside technobabble is perfect

not obtuse at all

very easy to follow

[last nest]

Technobable is just nonsense hidden in scientifically sounding words.

[ocean pivot]

Need more based gacha MCs

[scenic condor]

THIS. why would you localize it likes this? long is literally just dragon but cn, if u alrdy translate it why do you leave that one word like that? also this is not an example of technoblabla

[vocal ginkgo]

thats just bad localization

[scenic condor]

technoblabla is when they try to explain key things in the world but use random made up shit that doesnt tell me anything, throw 20 more of it on me and expect me to remember

[last nest]

Wuva does not really do that. It just replaces a bunch of words with Chinese counterparts

[scenic condor]

probably yes

[ocean pivot]

TOTAL LOCALIZER DEATH.

Kill localizers. Behead localizers. Roundhouse kick a localizer into the concrete. Launch localizers into the sun. Toss localizers into active volcanoes. Judo throw localizers into a wood chipper. Report localizers to the Wizards’ Council. Karate chop localizers in half. Trap localizers in quicksand. Crush localizers in the trash compactor. Liquefy localizers in a vat of acid. Dissect localizers. Drown localizers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize localizers with anti-matter. Kick old localizers down the stairs. Feed localizers to alligators. Slice localizers with a katana.

[scenic condor]

but cn is just as unknown to me

[steep blaze]

Long is literally dragon

In chinese

[scenic condor]

is this a copypasta?

[ocean pivot]

FUCKING TEAL DRAGON

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[vocal ginkgo]

THERES 6 MORE DRAGONS

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[steep blaze]

TOTAL LOCALIZER DEATH.

Kill localizers. Behead localizers. Roundhouse kick a localizer into the concrete. Launch localizers into the sun. Toss localizers into active volcanoes. Judo throw localizers into a wood chipper. Report localizers to the Wizards’ Council. Karate chop localizers in half. Trap localizers in quicksand. Crush localizers in the trash compactor. Liquefy localizers in a vat of acid. Dissect localizers. Drown localizers in fried chicken grease. Vaporize localizers with anti-matter. Kick old localizers down the stairs. Feed localizers to alligators. Slice localizers with a katana.

[marble sapphire]

I am an engineer but I often use simpler terms than the tech terms and subsequently start getting irate if I am told I am wrong term-wise and then the explanation after that indicates I was right all along anyway

[vocal ginkgo]

6 STUPID SHIPS FROM HSR

[scenic condor]

dont

stop

pls

[vocal ginkgo]

NOW 6 DRAGONS IN WUWA

[steep blaze]

Me engineer

[scenic condor]

fuck

tectone made a vid about wuwa

[ocean pivot]

i am engineer in being stoopid

[scenic condor]

and i mostly agree with him

[vocal ginkgo]

who cares about tectone

[scenic condor]

what the fuck

[ocean pivot]

yes

[scenic condor]

happened

[vocal ginkgo]

u gave him views

[steep blaze]

I don't watch gacha games creator contents

[last nest]

Trick question. They are all stupid

[ocean pivot]

Watched a clip of tectone being based the other day

[marble sapphire]

the sooner you scrub him out of your internet presence the better

[vocal ginkgo]

the only content creator i watch is harstem nowadays

[last nest]

What is he complaining about now?

[open copper]

Genshin does Liyue-shilling a bit, but is much more subtle and well-done.

[marble sapphire]

just pretend he simply doesn't exist because he WANTS you to think otherwise

[scenic condor]

thats the point. he doesnt. hes praising the hell out of the game

i was shook

[steep blaze]

What people really watch on YouTube

Like, literally

[vocal ginkgo]

he wants that kuro sponsorship

wont talk badly

[steep blaze]

Watch someone talk about something?

[scenic condor]

his main issue was the en voice acting for females

[steep blaze]

[marble sapphire]

thing is, because he's fucking Tectone, he instigates drama and fandom wars all the time

[last nest]

AHH yes so subtle to have annual event where they glaze Zhongly for 5 hours

[scenic condor]

but GUYS THIS IS NOT A DRAMA VID

[ocean pivot]

oh yeah EN voice acting is atrocious, what else is new

[scenic condor]

thats the point

thats the shocking part

tectone vid with no drama

not even real genshin slander in it

hes smiling

he looks happy

who is this man

and what has he done with rager tectone

[vocal ginkgo]

hes fake

[steep blaze]

Thh wuwa lore is a bit boring

[vocal ginkgo]

replaced

changeling

[steep blaze]

Compared to genshin(it alr bad)

[vocal ginkgo]

doppledanger

[last nest]

Well hating on wuwa is popular ATM and tectone is always nothing but contraria n

[steep blaze]

[scenic condor]

i'll take it

[vocal ginkgo]

since when have u cared about tectone ariel

[steep blaze]

But wuwa combat is cool

[scenic condor]

you have to get to scar, it picks up from there. act 3 was better

and it gets even better from act 4

but yes they fumbled the early acts

[steep blaze]

Yeah

I met scar

Finished act 2

[shy lotus]

thats probably just a way to introduce himself to the community

later on he will make dramas

lol

[scenic condor]

true

but let me have this okay?

all day all i have seen is hate for ww

[shy lotus]

its okay ariel

we can cope that there is no drama tuber in this game already

[last nest]

Later on he will go back to grnshin like he always does lol

[scenic condor]

never in my life i imagined i woudl find solace in a TECTONE VIDEO

[ocean pivot]

[last nest]

He used to be alright back in his arknights days

[ocean pivot]

learn to be zen like me ariel

[scenic condor]

he doesnt need to. genshin is his new AK. shits on it constantly and yaps that community hated him out. and now hes on hsr

[ocean pivot]

All i care for is the destruction of the entire localizer population

[vocal ginkgo]

what u need to do

[steep blaze]

Bro instead of malding about someone can't you just click "Don't show this people on my feed"

And ignore him

[vocal ginkgo]

is play 10 gachas so if one of them is shit, you dont feel as bad

[scenic condor]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh. he was omegaclickbait but way less drama ig so on that front he was more bearable.

[ocean pivot]

Nice one aiur, my brother in spirit

[marble sapphire]

Tectone game lifecycle is like.."This is good actually!" and the progressively slowly downgrading before quitting and moving on I think..

[scenic condor]

im down to 4 gachas now. be proud of me

[open copper]

Ariel is just Tsun-tsun.

[steep blaze]

Im in 3 gacha

Include wuwa

[vocal ginkgo]

u can pump them numbers up

[steep blaze]

[scenic condor]

what? no im not

[vocal ginkgo]

tbh, i enjoy seeing the jank

its a different kind of fun

[scenic condor]

no way. it took me a lot of willpower to purge the list

[vocal ginkgo]

classic tsundere act

[scenic condor]

i hate you all

this slander

not like i care tho hmph

https://tenor.com/view/hmph-hmph-anime-tsundere-gif-25758864

[steep blaze]

Who that tsun tsun

I never saw any tsun anime gurl other than taiga in my life

[scenic condor]

idk

random gif

[vocal ginkgo]

Taiga Aisaka from "Toradora!"

[shy lotus]

omg that one anime in amq

[vapid prairie]

This. It's like the "affirming the consequent" fallacy. Like complicating fictional teleportation by applying real-world physics to it.

[steep blaze]

People mentioned tsun so much but there literally no tsun in anime industry

[vocal ginkgo]

wdym

[flint cargo]

I brought up the Long Dragon stuff yesterday

[vocal ginkgo]

u talking about modern animes?

[flint cargo]

Like it's sooo try hard

Just call them dragon

[vocal ginkgo]

just tsun tsun and no dere dere?

[steep blaze]

A solid tsun that being mentioned in anime by someone in a anime

Maybe none?

I don't watch modern romcom much

[vocal ginkgo]

oh so recent animes u mean?

[steep blaze]

Solid tsun i know was old animes

Other are questionable

[scenic condor]

my fave tsun is

https://tenor.com/view/familiar-of-zero-zero-no-tsukaima-gif-24412490

she so adorable

okay gotta sleep. tomorrow i wanna get to coop in wuwa

tho idk if i can do u25

they put coop so high

[vocal ginkgo]

if i think about tsunderes across different medias

[shy lotus]

co op is weirdly high

[vocal ginkgo]

akiha in tsukihime

[marble sapphire]

if I know anything from Genshin, there is obviously gonna be a lot of skill checked people

in coop

[steep blaze]

If coop is like genshin i think it not necessary

[marble sapphire]

isekai before the huge isekai wave of 2015-2020s

[steep blaze]

🤔

[vocal ginkgo]

one of the OG isekais is inuyasha

[steep blaze]

Isekai setting nowadays are pretty the same

I mean we need more system of power

[vocal ginkgo]

theres a few gems

yakuza reincarnation

samurai in another world

[steep blaze]

Like kore wa zombie

[nocturne tinsel]

you may not want to hear it
but the OG isekai is yankee in king arthur's court

[steep blaze]

Zombie/vampire/ninja/mahou shoujo

[marble sapphire]

and Inuyasha is also one where the protagonist regularly moves back and forth between realms

[steep blaze]

Necrkmancer

[vocal ginkgo]

this sounds nuts

[steep blaze]

And

The neat part

[vocal ginkgo]

only 45 chapters

rip

[marble sapphire]

actually I think that's what distinguishes today's isekai vs the old ones, that very often there's no way back

[steep blaze]

Mc fight in the dark protect world

[vocal ginkgo]

u ever watched the child sequel?

[marble sapphire]

nope

[steep blaze]

It ended in japan actually

Very soon,like 2013

No one translating those

[nocturne tinsel]

quite a few old ones have no way back (or no realistic way back)

[steep blaze]

[nocturne tinsel]

like guardians of the flame

[vocal ginkgo]

wizard oz is isekai

[nocturne tinsel]

yes actually

[steep blaze]

Isekai is fun

But

Nowadays they using the same isekai setting

[nocturne tinsel]

wizard of oz is archetypal of the western isekai

[steep blaze]

Tolkien?

Elf/fairies/beast/goblin setting

[nocturne tinsel]

including works such as fablehaven, percy jackson, harry potter, and gregor and the overlanders

[steep blaze]

Man

Harry potter was something

Author literally cook a world of Wizards

Not only fighting

[vocal ginkgo]

i feel like SAO was kinda responsible for the isekai setting

even though it technically isnt

[ocean pivot]

You know a unique isekai setting? LORD OF MYSTERIES

[vocal ginkgo]

since its still the real world, just in a video game

[nocturne tinsel]

SAO is responsible for the current isekai landscape yes

[steep blaze]

Im reading lord of mysteries chapter 2

Can't understand what they talking about

[vocal ginkgo]

wait there was an even older virtual game isekai

what was it called

[nocturne tinsel]

.hack

[vocal ginkgo]

YES

[ocean pivot]

SAO is VRMMO not isekai wym

[steep blaze]

No game no life

Angel beats

Charlotte was something

My fantasy

monster musume

[ocean pivot]

how you lost on chapter 2

[steep blaze]

I think the subbed is rough sub

[nocturne tinsel]

I really hope producers take a good long look at mid 70s fantasy
bc the landscape is mostly identical to the current isekai landscape

[ocean pivot]

subbed?!?

[nocturne tinsel]

and there's a lot of diamonds in the rough

[ocean pivot]

wot?

[steep blaze]

Yeah im not reading it in english

[ocean pivot]

oh jesus christ

[steep blaze]

Translate
Machine translate

[ocean pivot]

good luck

[steep blaze]

Think like that

[ocean pivot]

you have forsaken yourself

[steep blaze]

Bro the og book is chinese anyway

[nocturne tinsel]

the valdemar chronicles would be such a gold mine

[ocean pivot]

the english translation for LoM is 💯

[nocturne tinsel]

[inland drift]

gonna change account

[vocal ginkgo]

i want to like monster musume but its like

[inland drift]

finally i got a girl (in my second account)

[vocal ginkgo]

kinda samey after a bit

[steep blaze]

To love ru

Campione

[nocturne tinsel]

if you think there's a lot of one piece content

valdemar chronicles and xanth have both been being written for >50 years now

[steep blaze]

[open copper]

Isn’t Valdemar Chronicles yaoi?

[nocturne tinsel]

by the same author

[ocean pivot]

swear to god getting logged out on game exit gonna make me quit

[nocturne tinsel]

no?

[ocean pivot]

my brother has recommended xanth to me

[inland drift]

tbh now i dont need this account

[marble sapphire]

SAO was kind of isekai but also wasn't. If anything alot of isekais were drawing from Mushoku Tensei back when they were all web novels hosted on a fanfic website

[open copper]

I must be confusing it with something else

[shy lotus]

someone say isekai?!??!

Master Slop has arrived

[marble sapphire]

MT actually predates a good number of them

[ocean pivot]

Mushoku tensei mentioned, muting chat

[steep blaze]

Midshoku

Never watch

[open copper]

Isekai has more in common with Battle Harems than with Fantasy.
Most of the big ones straight-up started as Zero no Tsukaisomething fanfic

[steep blaze]

[marble sapphire]

but due to it's sheer volume, they ended up forming an entire studio just to animate it

[nocturne tinsel]

you should absolutely read it
the M.Y.T.H series is also a great isekai adjacent series

[ocean pivot]

xanth definitely on my list fo sho, i trust my bro

i need to make time for demonata as well

[vapid prairie]

Nice husbando acc. Just Jiyan and Lingyang left

[inland drift]

yeah

[open copper]

A better term is Naroucore, most of those shameless Self-Insert Fantasies started being written there

[nocturne tinsel]

MT definitely helped to dictate the directions
but SAO defined what was marketable

[inland drift]

almost full husbando

[marble sapphire]

it's popularity caused subsequent writers to use some of its formula for their own isekai because...really, it's a fanfic website hosting web novels >expecting originality

[steep blaze]

checking on ln top

[nocturne tinsel]

and whats marketable is what gets the adaptation

[steep blaze]

Romcoms

[ocean pivot]

my brother in christ MT tropes were what were marketed SAO isnt isekai is VRMMO

[vapid prairie]

What's 6?

[steep blaze]

彼女が先輩にＮＴＲれたので、先輩の彼女をＮＴＲます

[inland drift]

lmao

[open copper]

Yeah, Crunchyroll had a conference that said something along the lines of “Romcoms are the new Isekai.”

[inland drift]

im glad i learned jp so i get it

[steep blaze]

Romcom are so unreal

And lame

クラスの大嫌いな女子と結婚することになった。 i liked this

[ocean pivot]

how are romcoms the new isekai if they were around before isekai

TOTAL
CRUNCHYROLL
DEATH

[open copper]

Most of them are trash that should end in 25 chapters.

[vapid prairie]

Because the harem anime meta didn't count as romcoms

[nocturne tinsel]

I wouldnt doubt it
we had such a good set of years for romcoms around 2020 that its become easy to greenlight them

[ocean pivot]

Sometimes making your story into a one shot really helps it ye

[shy lotus]

Me when i watched the 1000th School Entrance, Summer festival, beach episode, christmas, new years shrine, graduations

[steep blaze]

look at this

the most mid story stay on top

for years

Mahiru/arya meta for like since 2017?

[marble sapphire]

I wonder if I don't read much romcom because I am numb to such experiences

[nocturne tinsel]

ok I guess I miscounted
xanth has only been being published for 47 years

[steep blaze]

Romcom supposed to be a side part of a fighting anime

[nocturne tinsel]

at a rate of ~ 1 book/year

[steep blaze]

[open copper]

Publishers like Romcoms, since they can milk Otaku/Waifu Merchandise

[steep blaze]

I mean otaku chose to buy those

Not publisher fault

[nocturne tinsel]

and the market is being flooded with kaguya clones atm

[steep blaze]

Wtf kaguya clone?

[open copper]

Yeah. But sometimes the publishers force the writers to extend a story.

[nocturne tinsel]

or more often they do a one for you one for me deal with writers

[steep blaze]

i like this

[nocturne tinsel]

and the story publishers want often chases the most recent trend

[steep blaze]

If you guys have read lord of mysteries

Please read

Terror resurgence

[nocturne tinsel]

what if we havent?

[steep blaze]

🔥

Read terror resurgence anyway

Because it peak

[shy lotus]

free on amq!

though if ur not used to this, you can mistake it for Happy sugar life

[steep blaze]

Mob sekai marie route

Thinking

[nocturne tinsel]

CANARIA

[steep blaze]

Im reading a korean romcom

Liked it

[vocal ginkgo]

hpapy sugar life was terrible

[steep blaze]

Na kang lim

[vocal ginkgo]

waste of time lmao

[steep blaze]

[shy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/tearmoon-tearmoon-empire-mia-guillotine-mia-luna-tearmoon-gif-1297771314705649051

[vocal ginkgo]

machikado mazoku

[steep blaze]

My taste is this

Can't watch gridman

[shy lotus]

watch

[steep blaze]

Dropped in like 4 episode

[shy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-bravern-勇気爆発バーンブレイバーン-勇気一刀流奥義-ブレイブ斬-勇氣爆發bang-bravern-勇氣一刀流奧義-bravern斬-gif-12448442361238903640

bravern

[steep blaze]

Gridman look like characters are acting in an anime

Not actually characters

[marble sapphire]

thanks to being made by CyGames studios the animation in Bravern is amazing

[flint cargo]

So uh

Is it recommended to do story first

Or explore?

Or side quest

[inland drift]

story

then after u need to have more union level explore to get all the tp

and then side quest

or at least thats my opinion about it

[shy lotus]

Story because they lock you out anyway

[nocturne tinsel]

never read the manga but the anime was

[shy lotus]

You either wanna do all world bosses for their first time

Or do the side quests

Any direction is fine

[flint cargo]

LESGOOOO

20 pity on the guaranteed

[nocturne tinsel]

[flint cargo]

It's REGULUS

WOOOO

[vapid prairie]

I'll join @ocean pivot 's world and leech XP from him

[ocean pivot]

[shy lotus]

Too bad she doesn't talk like regulus

[flint cargo]

I hear it

[shy lotus]

Yeah toy hear it but

It's not the regulus amount

Anywh congrats

Imma get her on my guaranteed

[flint cargo]

Regulus is just Carina normal speaking voice

[shy lotus]

True

That's why I could recognize her in that encore va reel

[flint cargo]

Yeah her voice is very distinct

Oh she's fun

2 moveset basically

Can't parry with her for shit but I can use jian for that

[flint cargo]

Her atk is very hard to parry with

I havent got the timing down yet

[vocal ginkgo]

what are these textures jesus

[zealous grove]

They're loading. Had them once.

[maiden skiff]

CS has that too

[shy lotus]

The most concerning this so far is how much playable men they releasing

[vocal ginkgo]

i just hope we can finish season 3 🙏

[shy lotus]

Just looking at the pgr roster and

[maiden skiff]

? i thought the game was doing fine

[vocal ginkgo]

i literally dont care about any of these 5 stars here on the discount banner

its stable atm

is yinlang the yancuck of wuwa

ice element

young male

oh no

[steep blaze]

I got sanhua

She cool

Her charged have to timing the right time on the gauge

[flint cargo]

He's a "hyper carry"

So yeah yanqing

[nocturne tinsel]

nah hes the itto of wuwa

does ok damage but needs to be in ult to do anything

we don't really have the energy donors for him to shine

bc if you build energy on him he does pathetic damage

[flint cargo]

Baizhi is so hot but they keep making her yap about bs that I don't care about

[nocturne tinsel]

if you build damage on him he doesnt get ult back

[shy lotus]

It's so weird how famous the main character becomes

[flint cargo]

Encore timing thing is fun

[shy lotus]

I have done shit and everyone knows who I am, I don't care about that Jingshk announced it, it was also vague

[vocal ginkgo]

this guy is just lancer

[flint cargo]

Rhythm built-in kit

It's really is Regulus

[vocal ginkgo]

i will say this

its fun to see npcs fight each other in the OW

[nocturne tinsel]

it is

[wind pawn]

Beat infernorider anyone else

[marble sapphire]

Calcharo's skill is kind of like Diluc's but his ult is a super mode instead

feels easy to play

[wind pawn]

That quest line took forever

[shy lotus]

Just skip button

Yeah I did it

[wind pawn]

I did

[shy lotus]

Then fought it again for a 3* echoe

[wind pawn]

That was so many points to do

[steep blaze]

Bro got 2 5*

[wind pawn]

its actually my team\

im saving convenes now

no need to pull

@shy lotus what's ur id

[shy lotus]

I don't remember lol, not on atm

[marble sapphire]

riding mode...I need to get that

is it a boss or?

[wind pawn]

World boss

Sea of flames

Theres a questline to it

[vocal ginkgo]

what is this puzzle solution omfg

[wind pawn]

You can rotate them

see the spikes

[vocal ginkgo]

FUCK ME I CAN ROTATE THEM

[wind pawn]

yellow is the area

lmao

[vocal ginkgo]

no wonder icouldnt fuckign solve this

30 minutes

i wasted 30 minutes

because i couldnt see the fucking little icon

[wind pawn]

anyone else buy the radio?

im weak for passes

[flint cargo]

I have bought nothing so far

[ocean pivot]

im f2p

[vocal ginkgo]

f2p feels weird man

[ocean pivot]

it does ye but im in wallet saving mode

[wind pawn]

but its battlepass

[ocean pivot]

battlepass stacks up with other subscriptions

[split violet]

how much pulls on beginner banner you guys use to get the 5 star?

[ocean pivot]

30

[vocal ginkgo]

50

shit game

[wind pawn]

50 8 pulls

30 10 pulls

[flint cargo]

50 8 pulls, 20 10 pulls

[split violet]

i think i did that 7 or 8 but i did it multiple tho

[shy lotus]

50

Bad game unlike HSR

[split violet]

the only bad thing about wuwa is need stronger PC

[flint cargo]

PC port have issue

So it might not even be your pc

[shy lotus]

Just run Ryzen 5 5600g

[split violet]

huh is intel core i7 is good?

[shy lotus]

Idk

[steep blaze]

I changed the game to ssd and it run fine now

(with 8gb ram)

[split violet]

im with 16gb ram yet i lag so much even with lowest setting

[wind pawn]

this is such a good combo

ult cal, switch to jin, get outro, then switch to cAL, which uses his ult

[ocean pivot]

[wind pawn]

well im donee dailiess

gn everyone

[vapid prairie]

Mobile game ad moment

[summer wedge]

Open beta gift

[marble sapphire]

I currently run Ryzen 7 6800H and RTX3060, so far not much issues

but I get that most comps aren't this spec

and run into problems

[summer wedge]

tfw stutters with a 4090

[ocean pivot]

so many people having inconsistent performance

[inland drift]

Yeah

[flint cargo]

The consistent thing rn is that it perform good on phone but kinda iffy on PC

You would expect it to be backward but here we are

[summer wedge]

I guess my cpu is a few years old now but it runs everything else at ultra except for this game lmao

[flint cargo]

Mobile on top

Finally, phone game that play on phone

[shy lotus]

Can you still play the game on low though

[summer wedge]

ooh I forgot to test it on my phone

[vapid prairie]

Ayo. Same CPU

[marble sapphire]

I also downgraded my performance to like medium

[vapid prairie]

I fixed my issues by turning off volumetric fog. Option is always an annoyance to fps in any game

[steep blaze]

Dem

Where you guys actually learn about the pc nerds thing

Youtube?

[vapid prairie]

PC nerds thing?

[steep blaze]

Fren told me should know the pc tech/overclock/core or sth

[vapid prairie]

My knowledge on that is only limited to my 50+ hours of playing PC Building Simulator

[steep blaze]

[ocean pivot]

i know nothing of overclocking but if you wanna be a supah nerdge you gotta watch the nerds at work

[ocean pivot]

Gamer's Nexus
Linus tech tips
Paul's hardware

[steep blaze]

Subscribed

[shy lotus]

I go to benchmark in Google

[summer wedge]

Not bad on phone

[ocean pivot]

gamer's nexus and paul go super into the nitty gritty cus they assume you know your stuff, search out their newbie vids first

[split violet]

but i have similiar specs except RAM yet i still have really low fps

[summer wedge]

game is optimized like poop

[ocean pivot]

I feel like it isn't optimization but compatibility, since even powerful rigs are having issues

[summer wedge]

that's the better word lol

[split violet]

i believe there is a way to increase my fps for wuwa

[ocean pivot]

huh i have a 3070, thought i was running a 40 series GPU, got no issues with wuwa

[vapid prairie]

Yeah. These powerful rigs also had problems with Palworld which was also Unreal Engine

So like

[ocean pivot]

Unreal is a good engine, it's just optimization is a hard job for devs

[summer wedge]

I refuse to compromise on settings because of my gpu

actually missing the 120 fps option that they had too

[ocean pivot]

They removed it a bit ago cus of issues with it, according to them it will come back when fixed

[vapid prairie]

Now run Snowbreak with no limit on the fps

[ocean pivot]

uh

no i like fps limits

[vocal ginkgo]

taoqi is tier 3 in prydwen

fuckign frauds

[vapid prairie]

Taoqueen is my exploration character

[ocean pivot]

wuwa shouldve improved on gliders

imejin the fun

[vapid prairie]

I cover distance by:

jump
glider
taoqi plunge
dodge
glider

[vocal ginkgo]

the 3 and 4 star borders are really hard to distinquish for weapons

[vapid prairie]

Dodging at the max height of the broadblade plunge has replaced my grapping hook

Fuck the cooldown

[vocal ginkgo]

theres this echo that summons a rock golem and it charges

then it launches u

and then taoqueen slams her assbig sword down

its cool

[ocean pivot]

[quasi moth]

Wuthering waves

More like

Wuthering waves

[ocean pivot]

[quasi moth]

Peak comedy achieved with void/rola/idk but everyone ditched void so I should stop referring myself as void in this server

[ocean pivot]

[vocal ginkgo]

Hmm I do like the game atm

It's just the optimization and graphics that's nagging

[manic rune]

its only day 2 , they will eventually fix it

[quasi moth]

I’m sure that’ll- yea

[manic rune]

in the meantime we can enjoy the extra free pulls

xd

[quasi moth]

Stonks

[zealous grove]

[vocal ginkgo]

Keep complaining

Maintain the agenda

More free shit

[manic rune]

u guys see issue

i see profit

[vocal ginkgo]

CN might be into something

[manic rune]

xd

30 more pulls needed

my encore

[shy lotus]

surely they give us 10 pulls for every single thing they find

[ocean pivot]

shorely

[manic rune]

dont really care how much

[vocal ginkgo]

More free shit

Give everyone free monthly pass

That would incentive more login days

[vapid prairie]

Free Lingyang

[vocal ginkgo]

Free door star selector

[manic rune]

free bench warmer*

[vapid prairie]

Mfw the game mainly tested on mobile isn't optimised on my Samsung fridge

[quasi moth]

Kuro games is pretty cool

Well they did cool tings with pgr

Hopefully it’s the same for wuwa

[steep blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/vera-s-vera-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-flare-gif-24290868

cool

[shy lotus]

actually such a genius way

[marble sapphire]

not interested in anybody yet, wonder if i'd aim for the Bocchi voice

[steep blaze]

We have like 3/4 lim cool char

Second phase: check
Lightning:check
Mid:?
Male:not

[manic rune]

just need yinlin weapon

[quasi moth]

Lucia crimson weave was fun to play

[quasi moth]

Kakarot is cool

Why ya on aboot

[steep blaze]

Cool

I liked lucia

(ice)

[quasi moth]

She looks cool

But I didn’t like her gameplay that much

Her weapon helped me more than anything

[steep blaze]

Rosetta or something

Luna

Cool charas

Young version of the old man

[quasi moth]

I should’ve chosen Rosetta, cuz that would’ve given me the whole team

The phys team

Well I barely play pgr, and all I spam is Selena

So it doesn’t matter

[steep blaze]

I liked qu

Selena

Vera

[zealous grove]

Pulao and Nanamech

[quasi moth]

Were you also an esdeath fan?

[steep blaze]

Who

I did not watch akame ga kill

Cuz fren spoiler everyone died

[quasi moth]

It be the blue hair dommy

I also haven’t watched akame ga kill

Love how yangyang throws random terminology to an amnesiac

Gotta love that

Chixia dumbs things down for me tho, ty

[pseudo wigeon]

So if I skip reroll

I should just ignore the standard banner right?

[quasi moth]

I got no forken clue

Also, whenever the va say Chinese words, it immediately pops out

Is that cuz of how Chinese is normally, when compared to English?

[steep blaze]

yeah i think chinese is backwards

[quasi moth]

I see

I wonder how sensing presence works in anime and games

Yangyang was on about not being able to sense tacet field’s presence

I wonder how it works in the first place

[maiden skiff]

? Chinese has the same structure as English tho?

SVO

[quasi moth]

No I mean

When the English voice actors say a Chinese word, you can feel that it’s like

Idk wtf I’m cooking

Ignore me

[maiden skiff]

im just as confused

[quasi moth]

Of course it would be pronounced differently, it’s a different language

[maiden skiff]

its past my bedtime

[quasi moth]

[maiden skiff]

i should not have said anything

[maiden skiff]

mood

[quasi moth]

And my brain just woke up

[maiden skiff]

[quasi moth]

The idiot is shouting the name from what looks like a kilometre away

Why does it have to be a glider all the time

Why can’t it be jet shoes

[last nest]

She has a special ability to sense things

[quasi moth]

I’ll take anything different

[last nest]

Trough streams

[quasi moth]

Oh so it’s exclusive to her?

[last nest]

The whole stick where she clairvoyance is her unique ability yes

[quasi moth]

I see

Oooooo

First boss

[last nest]

Those are fun here. Prob my favourite part

[quasi moth]

I’ll say this low

Now*

I’m not digging the dialogue so far

“Everything in our world is made of frequencies”

Well everything in our world has a frequency. Wait

How can stuff be made of frequency? Frequency is the number of cycles a wave Takes in a second

_ I feel like I’m overanalysing an isekai_

Is baizhi playable?

[versed solar]

https://fxtwitter.com/Low_perio/status/1793804848896544802?t=tSzphCBnfLhtZVf2qtVdEg&s=19

[versed solar]

Who

[quasi moth]

Ruan mei esque

[versed solar]

The pet slave? Yes she is

[quasi moth]

Wut

[vapid prairie]

Everyone is playable

People be sleeping on Taoqueen

[pseudo wigeon]

They say Chinese words really good, yes

Unlike usual westerner who would butcher it

[quasi moth]

I c

[pseudo wigeon]

Have you heard of string theory?

[shy lotus]

[ocean pivot]

[quasi moth]

I have but idk much about it

I’m just saying that fundamentally something being made of frequency doesn’t make sense

If they said waves, then that would be a different matter

[pseudo wigeon]

It's made out of material but all of its structures and properties are defined by frequencies of vibration of small...things

It would still be referred to as "everything is made of frequency" because it is what matters

[quasi moth]

Ah

Well that’s a sound argument

I am just arguing for semantics here then

[vapid prairie]

That a pun?

[pseudo wigeon]

Now you know

[quasi moth]

Unintentional one, but yes

[quasi moth]

I was arguing over that cuz you can pretty much describe particles as fields

So I thought it was that sorta deal

Kinda took frequency by heart

[pseudo wigeon]

It defo is just a fantasy world yapping

Trying to deliver an impression rather than substance

[versed solar]

level 20

yay

[shy lotus]

[flint cargo]

Give me

[versed solar]

GOD THE COMBAT OF THIS GAME

NUTS

if somebody says gi combat is better

god

have fun using pyronado 6666666666666 times while i parry god

[vapid prairie]

A few genshin people said the combat was spammy

[versed solar]

[young summit]

the irony

[shy lotus]

genshin combat is better

[flint cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

https://twitter.com/braxophone/status/1793917393267462258?t=LWjqAtlW2V3REFRlrO7pbw&s=19

Braxophone 🎷➡️ OffKai (@braxophone) on X

I was follow-botted on stream today, just over 100 accounts. The bots would say something positive about Genshin Impact, and something negative about Wuthering Waves.

Insanity.

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