#Punishing: Gray Raven
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aye
dante fire+burn dps
vergil phys+ts dps
no way they make them meta
pyro and selena are not old enough to die
they might be meta for their affixes tho
cause we dont have a burn dps and balter is old af so she might be killed so we can get a good ts dps
Yea but first two times u get Dante from gacha, u get a free copy of him
Same with vergil
Ain't hard to sss em
what does this have to do with them being meta or not
they cant make them meta cause there would be no way to get them again
collabs dont rerun
and they wouldnt be added to blue banner either
cs has an actual problem rn with meta pvp units that are colab and can never be rerun

pgr did it once with the 2b collab
and there was a huge uproar
so the rest of the collabs were not meta
we shall see ig
With Virgil being gacha I have a bad feeling
Also isn't this the first time we get 2 gacha in a row?
wdym
Ohh right, nier was also supposedly free patch
Virgil could be truslash and be meta that way I guess
Yes that's what I mean,
but theres no ppc ts boss
and you can always just dodge it by doing the other 2 nodes instead if it shows up
same with wz
the only affix thats good is ion
and it's hard to play rn
so we just ignore affix wz/ppc for now
ion will be very good with lilith tho
But man I am not looking forward to having to find 500-1000 skulls somewhere

So I hope Virgil isn't meta
how are you still struggling with skulls
the income has been boosted by so much
and with the rank system reworked u get so much from it
just by hitting 1.8m
intensive is like 18-20 skulls at most
and surely u can hit 10%
I am not but I will if I would need to get 1000 skulls out of normal
ok idk if this is a hot take but i really dont like the way pgr goes about building out its teams
like it feels like teams die before they are fully built out
?
how so
or which team
or rather than team the units in the team
like when you get a new gen unit the other units feel like they become qte bots
thats why the affix system was introduced
so older units can live on
even when they are crept from their main ele
not forever ofc
no no no
but it gives them some more longevity
look at daren fkin living for a million years now
oh
then i dont understand 
AH
you mean
its more like units only get to function as indavidual units
it feels common
but only if you lack sss cw
and at leats ss feral
okay lets backtrack
pyro
has a rotational team
shes not solo
wanshi rotational
qu was solo ONLY cause chrome was really REALLY ass
only 2 of the 3 units in pyro are roating tho right
not the 3rd
thats what i mean
theres no time
i dont really like
but when vera comes
having a unit in the team
it will be a 3man team again
thats just qte bot
i dont vibe with that part of pgr
but most of our teams rn are full rotational
phys is full 3man rota
fire is 2man
ice is 2man
ligthing is 3man if you have the ranks
dark is 3man
void is 2man
okay so
not most of our teams ig
not nobody is really truly solo
it's just .... units rotate slowly
a general life expectancy of a unit is about 1.5-2years
so as the team gets updated their damage wont hold up
so it's not worth swapping them in
yea but what % of that is as qte bot
hmm daren is still not a qte bot (sadly)
rosetta lived her full life without being a qte bot
like
i think part of my problem
is that in hi3 the roles of a team are clear even with no class system
but in pgr its almost always newest unit does the deeps regardless of role

not necessarily again
wanshi and qu are pretty equal
wata and pyro are similar too
tho thats rank dependant a bit
yea but those are also released close to back to back
as units
but we got 6 months cause speedup
idk
qu and wanshi had 6 months too
feels wack to me still
but less for us cause speedup again
do you at least see where my take is comming from tho
kidna?
you'd like every member of the team to pull weight
but you cant expect that realistically number-wise
when our unit release schedule is larger than hi3s
and we have more elements
Me when I am in a slack off and my opponents are CW and Feral
and affixes
but i get what ur saying
and i cant wait for fire vera
so i can stop doing double wata rota
Could be worse, could be dark where no one is doing any damage

indeed
dark will probably get a tank after the dmc collab patch
and then daren finally dies
lamia probably will be out of the team too and we go solo tank with lilith+whoever
tho sss lamia might hold up
it's a cw situation
Say Ariel, between Ss3 Ishmael and Ss3 Selena who is bigger priority?
about equal
but since selena is part of 2 teams and ishy is mostly relegated to void only i'd say selena
Void is kind of underutilized ngl
Don't have enough BC for both so will go for Selena as I like them both about equal
void is not underutilized
at least not more so than anything else
wz is always skewed towards flavor of the month
and luna is still the best ppc speedrunner
(assuming equal ranks with your other dps)
ishy herself is more dmg than luna so you can imagine
Actually, aren't we supposed to get a stream for future chars?
no
thats usually anni streams
or half-anni
that should be next patch
after dmc collab
whispers say kamui dark tank
Hmm, is that Anni Liv I feel
well she just died so it would be fitting
3 males in a row? Sure
but liv dark tank...im not seeing it
dmc doesnt really count for the yearly male quota
imo

but who knows
Copium
either way dark tank should be next
whoever it is
i dont care
just kill fucking daren pls
Daren can't keep getting away with this
daren is rosetta 2.0
ratting thru life
dodging creep when she should have died long ago
btw @frigid sorrel collab units don't make it into the ppc shop
so no skulls for ss
Well, than Kuro will have a big meltdown on their hands if they are meta
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nanami : 4sig 4s...
dante is definitely meta for burn (wont beat pyro for fire)
vergil is only good for ts but sadly ts isnt saved
but he is better than balter there
so balter is officially fully dead
wdym sadly, him not being meta is great news
sadly as in ts still sucks ass
him being would be good news
cause hes free
or wait was dante free
i forgot
ah
okay
good
thats why they did it like this then
makes sense
this is actually player friendly
W
anyway burn is quite decent now
mostly cause nana is borken but dante is doing good work
^
Forgive me Solon for doubting you
Alisa getting free skin, guess they aren't creeping her any time soon
@proven marten new nanami truely has brought pgr down to my level
this is perfect

no switching just unoptimized button mashing for my fastest clears of this gamemode

enjoy 😄
bruh wtf is this boss for floor 14 tho
fucking slashes up the floor
and i was having problems dodging the starting spear throw
i guess you cant matrix it?
this bitch i just finished
ye thats vero
i was trying to matrix the starting throw for like 2 min till i figured out that you cant

if you hadnt slacced on the trial style event
you would have learned her moveset alrdy
cause she was one of the featured bosses
parry her ass
the boss event was over today i think
it was so funnnn
yea i thought it was up for exactly 1 more day

well rip
it was probably the best event they did in a while
hope it comes back
but for you as someone who doesnt like malding probably wouldnt have been an enjoyable event
theres an event timer tab
on the homescreen
that tracks everything
on the left side
you should keep track of that
this?

oh this one
yep
stupid proofing my game for me
i fucking sware i know hi3 had a lot of good things but did pgr and zzz need to copy the visual mess too 
zzz is much worse for me
im so fkin confused
still
you just arnt used to it
i have no idea where my quests are stored
the J button doesnt open up quest log
like
wtf
but it is bad
it's so fkin baaaaaaaad
pgr i got used to very fast
the only fix they need is to put the farm stage on the main screen
so i dont have to click thru 2 more menus for it
my gacha power rankings of best to worst ui of games i play rn
1 hsr
2 snowbreak
3 counterside
everything after this is bad
4 hbr
5 hi3
6 pgr
7 zzz

why the fuck have they been feeding dark content down our fucking throats
@proven marten feels like dark is getting shilled as hard as the patch unit's weathers if not more rn to me
yeah it's weird
dark will be somewhat better next patch
but it's just gonna be lilith solo xd
with void
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh another solo
cause lilith alone does double of what lamia+the rest does
@proven marten how long till we catch up to kr you think
to kr?
idunno what kr is on
but we will catch up to cn very soon
2 more patches and we are at dmc collab
ishy+lilith
selena+jeta+vera
i'd say by july we will catch up

@proven marten am i missing something this event thats about to end you dont even actualy need to do anything do you
like all this junk is stamina farmable anyway
no point in playing more 🤡
after u grabbed the pull, the voucher and the event sticker, nothing else
rest is just shit u can farm anyway

@proven marten on lucia am i intended to do the hold ult or the form swap ult normally?
ss3?
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00:00 ss0 fire opening
00:20 ss0 repeat rot
00:50 ss0 flux opening
01:21 ss0 flux repeat rot
01:58 ss3 or higher basic rot
02:31 ss3 or higher flux opening
03...
follow this pls
for the ss3 rot
from 1:58
ishmael tomorrow
@supple vine did you do it?
do what
Nice skin
yeaaah
it's so tastefully done
also nice that free cw and feral are obtainable day 1
no need to grind for them for days
holy shit
let me get into the fucking game
ive been trying to download pgr update for the last 3 fucking hours
fuck you kuro
ok game just flat out didnt want to download properly
in case you wonder what happened
its not a login
||cn server is same as well||
aren't we login to update?
im fucked on the download
no
i can get to the download then it doesnt fucking download properly


fkin myles
people cannot login but myles can't download
🫡
i come in to here like 2nd time maybe
no idea
its probs also from the attacks
but the effects are slightly diffrent for me i guess

ill show what i get in a sec
ah yes you too can have a download speed of 0 kb/s for the low low price of all your sanity
isnt the login after this?
yaya but my login is that screen
what a shitshow
i not even getting the ui screen
welp
ishmael update
we will see if its fixed tomorrow

@muted solar wait ur still playing pgr?
@proven marten Ishmael is the first char where they merged affection story and char side story, is that the norm going forward now?
no idea
i never do those 
also we are close to catching up with cn right?
Should only be 2-3 more patches until we caught up
yes
we are 1 patch behind now
technically
cause we condense them
selena jeta vera patch is next
and then dmc collab
so ideally we should be all caught up by the time cn gets their anni char
whos very likely to be dark tank kamui
or half-anni
i forgot which one
half-anni
cn anni is dec
half anni, anni was Ishmael no?
I guess they can make Dark kamui be half anni if he is free lol
cause beginner banner reset
huh
dont think he would be
and pgr players are not wuwa players
ppl will roll even if male cause they wanna keep up with the meta
watanabe was liked a lot generally too
We don't have sales for pgr so who knows
I was thinking about pulling for SS3 Ishmael but after having to pull 140 pulls on her banner I am not doing that
At least I got my SS3 Lucia now.
?????
what are you doing brother
120 pulls
and you have your ss3
what are you going for 140
60 on main, 30 twice on weapon, 20 on cube
(and I still need to get Luna goth skin)
im skipping that
i am still so in love with the launch skin
the ending pose is heavenly
and the heels are so good
but i said this about garnet skin before and ended up pulling 
the skin gacha will last thru selena patch
so i will wait
i need to secure sss selena first
then i'll see
but white skin is just better
looks-wise
I can get both skin and Selena ss3, assuming I don't pull Vergil
You said he wasn't super meta?
hes meta for ts
not meta for phys
dante is the winner there
dante makes burn happen finally
while vergil is good for ts, ts will still be pretty crap (tho at least not the worst affix anymore)
yeah no goth skin is not for me
watched a showcase again
white skin is too peak
and i'd even put her summer skin over the goth one
for myself
plus goth skin doesnt mesh well with ishy skin domain
I've grown to kinda dislike oblivion default look, too much red+the filter effect is annyoing
Okay but for you it's diffrent you buy most skins
I only pull for gacha skins
i actually skipped a lot of skins
recently especially
i dont have the funds
with synchro forcing me to buy 2-3x stuff from the same paycheck to keep up
the only skins i bought in like the past 6 months since synchro has been happening was uh luna and wata
ah and alisa skin
i loooooved the balloon feral skin too but it's not like i see her on field anymore
so it's fine
btu the ult vfx with big vera balloon xd
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Basic rot
@supple vine @frigid sorrel
ok i got ish + wep @proven marten tell me how far i need to go on her once i get back, like is ss0 fine or is she like pyro who needs ss3
ss3 is very welcome but not as high prio as pyro ss3 was
if you cant afford both hers and selena's save for selena
selena ss3 is more important

ish ss3 essentially changes how you play her
you can fit in 1 more ult
if you are fast
to be still within the 10s amp timer
it's a sizeable upgrade if you can pull it off
selena's ss3 is more in line with pyro's ss3
massive qte dmg boost for the whole fight and sped up rotation
Yes, when did I said I stopped?

||am playing in CN||
i rarely see you here so i assumed u quit like the others
Soon we shall be equal 
not for long
we are only 2 patches behind now
we should catch up by end of summer
which is kinda sad. i liked having foresigh
3s fire team done too
that leaves ice
free qu next patch will do it. i will be missing 15 shards with the dupe from selector so i'll buy up 45 wanshi shards from voucher and convert them to qu shards 
and we forget about dark and void luna
haven't built her yet
smh
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Basic rot
ish rota
shes pretty simple overall it's once again a bit of decisionmaking based on wave state
but shes mostly a slideshow spam 
her challenge is speedy fingers
cause you wanna fit 3 rotas into 10s
havent had time to play yet
i guess i might soon as i woke up super early for no reaosn

bitch ur missing free login pulls
no
i log in
and do daily
just nothing else
okay then get to it
tho theres no content for ishy this week
no void in wz or ppc
Login + dailys isn't playing in my book
oh das hot

Drop your hot takes @supple vine @muted solar
i dont pay attention to story and stuff much so it would just be on how much i like designs and serface personality


i like 21

Tbh she is
And surprisingly older than most of the casts
Older than all gray ravens and cerbs
What about this selena


And the sheer amount of space time what ifs shenanigans arent helping
But its a great chapter
Like, maybe i havent reached the revelation stage yet
pgr is hi3 but with teen angst
But the past 4 or 5 stages have just been like
Alternate timelines or universes or smth

Idk hi gacha
But thats good to hear
Glad that they arent folding to genshit levels of greed
with the $5 monthly you can get every unit + wep rn
in hi3
now that they are longer patches

With just playing
You get more than enough for everything in pgr
it doesnt even feel like a gacha
tbf idk ggz gacha
People say genshin raised the bar for gacha
But i think they just lowered it by 10 fold after the first few months

hi3 did too back in the day
like
And i wouldnt say

Thats one of the reasons why they said gi raised the bar
which is to say not much
but still some
I still think its redundant tho
Like its a gacha and you wanna incorporate roguelite meta progression
You wont be touching any of that shit after escaping early game
And its way too easy
Or as they like to call it
User friendly design
They know its fucking redundant
Ye, basically anything outside of fighting
Would generally be meta progression
And
Skip button
For the love of goon
i gonna said i like 50% of them
@supple vine
almost 70% of characters that i like
i like nanami as well
noctis is ok as well
I would say I like/love most of the cast. Luna, Liv, Lamia are my favs
yeah
and the skin is available from spend event now
btw
Myles like her because she remind him of kemonomimi
I think i have all skins that can purchased by bc currency

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Ishmael rainbow card, arisa free from event
ah BC currency okay
fakin alisa
just die alrdy plsssssssss ur so shit to play
very cute skin tho
her damage is trash
her orb cancels are clunk
and she STILL takes too much field time
She has additional skill later
yeah ik she gets leap next patch
but she wont feel much better xd
ish skin is.....ehh
it's not bad but i like her debut skin more
but it's good
her biting a COIN
oh alisa skin is free haahaha
thats very nice then
it's a great one
church skin still best!
Saw that
Finaly did it, thanks to ss3 Lucia I had made the 10 percent club
pog
but thats still a low score for ss3 
what did u put on wata and empy
and please explain this memory placement 
why is cottie 1 on top
oh your empy doesnt have harmo or sss
okay
hmm i still think with this level of invest you should be able to hit 600k
but ye build looks fine
lack of harmo is fking you over a bit
but atp i cant really recommend going for empy harmo if you dont have others to do and ur short on mats
shes dying in 2 patches
It's where I put it intitially and I am not gonna redo the memory over placement
ye but...why did u put it there at all

anyway
whats done is done ig
it shouldnt make much of a difference in the modern age the characters are in
used to be a much bigger thing in the past

@ ari moment
that moment when stage 10 was significantly harder than stage 14
myles

||i think am gonna bully myles||
did you even read what the buff effect was for this cycle?
this was a hanying cycle 
also what are you doing with cw

selym my dear
you mean your 🦌
expecting 11myles to read
smh
bro
what is that feral build
okay
are you here?
we need to talk
@supple vine
i cantttttttttttttttttt
i literally gave you resources to make your builds from
and ur STILL HAVING THE WRONG BUILD
yea i havent bothered with feral
its really just nanami solo
why is she there
truely
for moral support
cw is there bc hot
i keep forgetting
okay so
i think you might be able to pull off swap comp
might
but you need to wep reso
wtf, how does selym have ss3 cw
free copy
from current patch
i assume
either way please adjust the feral build
4dv 2guin 2ein
and class resos
ill get that done sometime
laugh at myles at corner
everytime
i open his huaxu
i get a mini aneurism
the fact that I am taking the time to spoonfeed the info
he doesnt even have to look for it
and STILL DOESNT DO IT
i play 7 gacha not an excuse
but don;t you need ss3 21?
no
i have that too
i dont know you and i am not invested in your account progression
so i probably would be fine
and brush it off as f2p cope
selym is my pet project

tene
anyway lemme find a swap condition sheet
lore

hi3 chat has some LORE
||i go pull lucia skin||
?
WHAT IS THIS TRASH
👀
istg
okay you know what
just do swap comp
without nana dlt you cant even pull off solo good enough
your garnet is in the trash somewhere
and you dont have any other sss amp you could fill in
i only just got garnet off the standard select

THE WHAT?
WHAT
WHAt
WHAt
WHAT DID YOU DO
dont tell me
you fucking
picked garnet
from base banner reset
yes i did

wait she is
WHY WOULD YOU WASTE THIS ON A FREE UNIT
woops
i want to own every unit eventually
but
and forgot about bp shards
VOUCHER SHOp
also exists
you fucking
stupid
whore
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
hmm, maybe I can do it too than?
so fucking
stupid
that garnet could have been ss3 qu
or ss3 ish
or ss3 selena
or literally ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN A DEAD FREE UNIT
okay listen you little shit
next time a selector comes
CHECK
everything you are missing currently
is FREE
or a uniframe
DO NOT PICK THEM FROM SELECTORS
(ss3 Hanya, it should have been SS3 Hanya)
eh
ss3 hanya is whatever now
hes never gonna make it into high enough wz rank
i'd wager he hangs around leader
and there's no trueslash wz there
I mean, I am still picking her over ss3 qu lol
and even if it happens ts sucks ass
oh yeah fs
but not over ss3 ish
or ss3 selena
I got ss3 lucia from selector reset so I am fine
good
best choice
you have to re-learn pyro rotas for it tho
cause ss3+ rotas differ from ss
assuming "lucia" means pyro here and not cw
please god let it mean pyro and not cw
i will explode if you picked cw
Wdym, it's obv Plume(s)
dw i nvr truly learn how to play lucia pyro one(latest one)
@supple vine what are you spending your vouchers on? why is your kaleido still not sss after all this time?
AND WHAT IS THAT EMPY GEAR
SELYM
but yes, I watched the video. It's pretty sweaty rotation tho
yes rep reso
dd for nana
amp resos for feral
and GA for cw
or dlt if ur skill issued
but cw has not needed dlt since her solo days were over
which is ever since feral came out
ofc if you use her orbs wrong and you eat a 3ping with the matrix ping yea u will need dlt but come on
Yes I can do this now. What was preventing me before was luck of harmo on feral but I am finaly free from that now
thank you warlord
for giving me hope
that i MIGHT just have someone using their brain here
the harmo is 4 da vinci 4 guin right?
no
4dv 2gui 2ein
shred is always more imporant than buff
vera will use the exact same set
next patch
when empy dies
I have ein harmonised on alpha
ah wait we are talkign lightning im stupid
cause im traumatised by selym empy build
thats for sss qte bot
if u wanna play swap comp go back to cottie
ill get that done next just did cw
4 disel 4 cottie?
yes
dont bother now shes dead next patch
just fix her build
unless you have the pulls for it and the harmo mats to harmo it
4dv2ein on empy
id rather not waste pulls
then dont





