#Punishing: Gray Raven
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in hi3/hsr/genshin terms
resonance = substats however there is no rng involved as we have ways to select the exact ones we want. also there is no value rng involved either
yesnt
it largely removes gear farming
but there are tons of shit to farm to progess character
similar to mastery/modules in AK
we have leap upgrades, memory resonance, weapon resonance
awakenings
ultimate awakening
and so on and so forth
the endgame farming is more focused on linear, largely non-rng grind rather than stat rng malding
which is amazing
and since these mats can be bought from event shop it just makes endgame farming very easy
cuz it's not the point of the game
the point is the combat and skill involved in competing in the endgame modes
im a fucking day 5 player and im writing essays like im a year 2 player

tho to be fair the game itself is pretty easy for me to pickup as it shares so many similarities with hi3
and in a lot of cases very much improved on hi3's systems
some bits are worse some are better
i think the story is worse for 1 and i like honkai charecter designs more
in terms of systems only the ui
ah sure thats subjective
I dont like the characters that much
they're like an uncanny valley of hoyo anime and too realistic looking
so many fkin menus and submenus and even subber menus
yeah
god i cant wait for hi3 ui update
worst part of game fixed
yeah
its joever
you can swap between new and the bridge
thank god
if we talk just system-wise
i dont like how we dont get RC for 1st time completion
max efficiency
and i somewhat dislike the rng feel of the orb system tho i am getting over that already
and it's not as rng as it felt on first look
i just didnt know about switch skills 
I think orb system is p good actually making decisions on the fly on which ones to get rid of to fish for a bigger combo or just cash in what you have
yea it grew on me
plus most of the time it doesnt really matter
which color
as long as it's a 3 ping
and where it does usually it's built into their switch skill
so for example rosetta's only special 3ping is her blue
but she autocasts blue 3ping on switch
so that solves the issue
same with veritas who wants to start her combo with a 3red 1 blue
but her switch casts a 3red
so u only need to quickly fish 1 blue
it's a fun idea definitely
at least i havent seen this in my other gachas before
btw why is there a difference between holding F or holding M1
I am level 67
i rebound most of my keys
But like
rapid fire basic attack I think
This is my second account, idk wtf did I do to my first account
ah. it means you dont have to hold it
it's supposed to be a toggle
but nobody uses that
outside uh
palefire lee
Holding dodge to launch an attack
The new move

New Bianca has that kinda mechanic right?
It’s similar to haicma 
yesnt
haicma has to really hold it
bianca is just a long press
and she can trigger matrix with it
Man, gimme the omniframe haicma pls game
in exchange she cannot trigger matrix on an ex dodge
bianca I like a lot
Or a manaka iwami character
the fingersnap thing is really cool
the snap is kinda her thing
all her frames do it
but her other 2 frames are bow users
yesnt
for main game purposes not really
there are modes where they can be handy
but as i understood they are mostly a copout way to take npcs out of jail
or make "villains" playable
some of them eventually escape uniframe jail tho
like selena
Qu is about to escape it aswell
lol
nowdays you can play them together with omniframes but they get a -30% dmg for each omni in the team
anyone tell me what is this
now that i have zero clue about
thats some monkers stat nerf
i have yet to dive into dorm
cuz they have monkers numbers apparently
and they can be pulled with a 10pull pity
and they are all S ranks
you go in and like interact with the chibi in the dorm
OH THATS IT?
Da winkie?
just pat them?
i already that 
and it didnt count
the most used support set
No
There an interaction thing in the menu
Click on the character and then in the left side, you should see it
Hold on
Ignore the battery

Ya see the interact button there above the guide?
but thats not the dorm event

Oh there’s an interaction thing for the dorm event?

am i blind
do i need to put my glasses on or what
where are they
oh there is another page?
thats weird
❓
why is one considered gear, the other an item
gear stuff can be reduced, item stuff cant
thats all
and dont ask why one is item and the other is gear
regards to the same looking enhance mat
pog got another S omniface thing
oh yea
O?
too bad plume gameplay is still bleh
who
I’m sure I’ll grow into it
Selena gameplay was weird at first but now I love her
Still can’t get over tempest tho
oh you mean selector
I was so disappointed
What characters do ya have in general
It’s prolly better to get a character that suits your team
did you roll bianca?
there are exactly 3 useful units in that selector (4 if you ignore upcoming stuff)
- bigger asta + kamui + nanami storm
bastion
I mean laura is prolly okay
rosetta - best phys tank
luna - best dark dps (until july 2024)
plume - best ice dps (until oct/nov 2024) - whoever we get a FREE ice dps next patch - bambi, whos pretty good and would fulfill your ice dps needs just fine
rosetta would be my choice if you rolled bianca
cuz bianca+rosetta+luminance is the mtea phys team
I can replace wanshi for bambi then I guess?
if you do not plan on getting bianca just go get luna
no you cant
wanshi is a support, bambi is pure dps
besides wanshi is getting crept in january by free ice ayla
What’s the current ayla then? 
shes a mostly all-purpose beginner elemental tank
but shes outdated so shes fine if u have literally nothing else
new ayla is amp unit
so new ice team will be plume/bambi , glory, ayla
kaleido is her frame name
10 more levels to get those juicy 10 pulls for standare
anyway for emma

you got glory?
yall gotta start calling them by their frame name if they have more than 1 frame
otherwise im confused
😄
sigh
the basic one idk
arclight?
arclight
zoomie zoomie
hes good
lightning tank
powercrept by vera garnet
but hes totally fine
anyway, let me know when u hit ur 40 pity
on base banner
im interested to see who u get
Base banner?
currently at 21/40
yay tomorrow reverse 1999 bri ish
elysia
aye
also pgr does bow char the best
the purple card banner
imo
for the first ever S rank you have a 40 pity instead of 60
alisa and bianca are cool af
i need balter SS
i should have rolled more
and try for a dupe
sheesh
now i can wait to get enough skulls
Cool
Gonna start that and hope it is alright
what does War Zone give as rewards primarily
it's abyss
just the 2 sides are separately challengeable
otherwise literally the same concept
actually it's more like hi3 abyss
but twice
bc
same
okay i aint that stupid
just making sure
💀

for a sec i thuoght it was gonna be another hyperlee plug
okay
we can actually team up
for war zone
now that i read up on it
during the recruitment phase we can choose each other
and then we wont get 2 randoms
wew
for a sec i read mating

yes
alr
so the guide saying "biweekly" means twice a week
not 2 weeks
they just dont know english
I’ll try
@flat jolt @rigid kelp yall both failed when u picked plume over rose tho
but ily anyway
Fortnight is in 2 weeks

I mean considering I’m focusing on Selena rn anyways 
My phy team wouldn’t have been built till next year
what lvl are you
58
i dont need rosetta i have the power of friendship
but ur not even eu emma
I’m 69
addict

89
im sorry i found a game i liked so im rushing to get into the mald
I think if I had my first account and I didn’t mald during Lucia alpha banner
aah okay
I prolly would’ve hit max level or something
so we cant play together just yet
I started this game during launch week
so let's agree to get our accounts in order by the time i get to lv 80

and since im not above spending i'll probably catch up fast
i lost that acc
it didnt had anything anyway

And then I quit the game
lmao
For a year before starting this account
rip bozo
what i dont get
we have 5 zones
and we can unlock 2
but the 2 is randomyl selected anyway
so why do i have to "unlock"
it's like the illusion of choice
smh
sure ill make one also
anyway go go go play get to that first S rank fast
im hyped for it
and it's not even my own gacha
furiHUH

Literally, this is my main team

erm thats 3 different elements and all supports
but
sure
😄

It’s all different
im raising nanami tank
yeye typo
i mean this is good for fun
im not gay but man lee
but i hope this is not your endgame plan
Not at all
Cuz I never thought about it
I wanna max out my livs first
I SO KNOW THIS FEELING
At least get them to SSS at least
ah so ur not doing warzone or ppc or any of it?
Or maybe the new alpha that’ll save lightning
alisa makes me super straight tho
I’m doing war zone, just not doing that well at it
she sure will
lmao
no surprise
you have one team
Got like 380k points in one of the things
😄
It wasn’t that bad 
I do have some characters I need to level up
who will mald with me
mald as in tryhard for score
Maybe Reiv or seylm will do it
I mean I have it, kinda
so im fked
Then I can just focus on the new girl 
I mean it’s still alright to have wanshi until I can like
Build up the new chara
i mean building isnt that deep ur not even 80 yet
so
it's just a matter of spamming that event stage
getting the memories
basically substats

Right, do I gotta max out the reso memories?
eventually yes
but the main focus is to have at least two teams up and running
preferably 5 teams
one for each ele
with memories
then u can think about diving deeper
but i'd be happy with 2 teams alrdy
so you have at least a chance of getting the warzone weather right
I don’t know if I got nuff charas for 5 teams BUT
teamcomps are in pinned
And then I’ll build that ice team
Ye I saw
dark team is the easiest to build
cuz all 3 of them are A ranks for starter comp
and you have an upgrade in selena
I gotta read these memories and chara skills
lightning is finnicky to build unless you luck into vertias cuz shes not worth aiming for anymore as alpha will kill her ass
I have been just pressing buttons

I don’t think I have any vera frames
rozen
is the dark support
but you wont be using her
cuz you have selena
selena is gonna be your elemental support in every team
Well first goal is to make the ice team
I have glory and plume
plume glory wanshi is 1 comp - you have ice done
just get their memories
can we retire 21 and kamui
SS+ required
lol
also
i forgot she existed
LMAO
SS is required for a lot of ppl
im starting to see
that the gacha pity is so low and guaranteed
cuz S rank isnt rlly enough for high competition
but it will work for us just fine
well then she dun need SS
i just want cool husbando and wifes
is your tenebra SS?
tenebra?
i use SSS+ 21
ah
it works fine
cool cool
yea she does
i need to beeline SS/SS3 stigma
cuz S rank is coooope
not having enough bar for double combo
feelsbad
can we get alisa areadly
what she even does
did u get a mentor alrdy?
if not then get one
military instructor or whatever is the name
those missions shoot you up in lvl like crazy
no but thats probably why 
i did the collab mission
its called bitch slayer
did you have 3 or 6 slots for the collab mission?
iirc without mentor u only get 3
WAIT
WAIt
you are using purple cards right?
and not BC
dont use bc on base banner
it's like throwing primos into standard
just making sure
also im thinkin
@rigid kelp when do new S ranks enter base banner?
the patch after?
i think when patch ends
idk cause im a returnee
i think the first pity is like
💀
veritas was release char?
whats balter
bianca stigmata = bianca alter
= balter
cuz of the whole saber alter reference
tho her tank outdpses her
trash game 
kek
anyway you can use the selector now if you want to
unless ur good to wait
till a 2nd S rank from base 😄
💀
i have SS veritas...
i can already tell this game is going to be forever to gain stuff
so i aint gonna wait

her leap makes her better but by then alpha crimson weave exist
alr
i got Wanshi hypnos also i guess
get luna from the selector then imo
her wep is in the wep selector u get later
from the guide missions
shes basically pgr's hov
she uses void spkies
chrome decked out
and u got the dps for him
put them together with whoever support (lux is best after she hits SS until then whoever works with the basic elemental support set )
and you have your lightning comp
by picking luna and her wep you can have a dark comp
with vera rozen + 21
and there's ur 2 comps
for ice u can have bambi, wanshi, ayla
if u roll hyperlee u can have something with fire too
so only phys thats gonna be nonexistent
and this is fine coverage
smh and i trained lucia well
lotus isnt very good sadly
your next best thing is probably crimson alpha or lee entropy
but without rosetta it's just eh
just let phys go for now
focus on your dark first and foremost since thats where u have a dps that has more than 4 months to live

but lightning also works
luna
sorry engrish broke
ur getting her from the selector don't you?
nah
i probably read another by accident
why does bianca get a 3* bow but luna gets a 4*
cuz selector is nice
but dun matter cuz u get luna's 6* wep
from the wep selector
in a couple days
if you really wanna make veritas happen you can throw a 10pull on her bow ig
hierachy
but do check out her gameplay first at least
maybe u wont like her
and this bitch is killing her in february
coolest char in the game

what do u have
i mean technically i can buy a greatsword
you can get another faded colors for ayla for ice tank ig and there's a 5* katana in there what will work fine on rozen
but nah 
I feel like liv is a cheat code for this pantomime mode
thre is no 5* kata on these boxes so far
SHE IS

what kind of weirdo boxes are those
ur in a mode where ur megabuffed
its gun, canon, magma pillar, greatsword, chainsaw
lol
I mean she looks like she prolly has big damage in general, no? 
I guess not
I c
but she cant compete with an actual dps
and you wont be running her on dps gear
that mode put her on full dps gear
animus is good for 21, thats her 5* wep
skulls...like everybody else
@tribal ironyou will eventually get a 5* A rank support wep box. that has a katana for vera
and from this box u can pick guardian mount and put it on any liv frame
which vera
oh i can get her
from this 4* box
5*
you can choose ur rateup still
oh i already have one
pick vera from there and pick 21 from the tank one
then keep the box for now ig
ok cool i got vera
now get 21
and u have ur dark team
make sure to get their ranks up from the base banner
ur a dark main now son
well i cant get 21 i think 
probably 
just put her as the rateup on base banner
and you get her a 10pull
it's fine
its okay, ill just make an eu character and get 2 6* there

Eu is always lucky for me

got JY on the first 10 pull on HSR
got Rizzley and Jean on Jenshin within 20 pulls

aaaaa im torn do i try to roll veritas bow

her 5* bow has fkin crit cdmg boost
for some damn reason
on a lightning dps
like
?????????
i get that shes old af
but srsly
bc or $$

Wait skulls? Like
The phantom pain thing?
yeah thats why we grind ppc. skulls are the only non-gacha way to rank up S ranks
okay she's 2.5k battle power now
whats ppc
damn
okay i thought she was long range
but still cool
ppc = phantom pain cage = pgr's version of hi3 memorial arena
okay
i found actual use for uniframe
since im not gonna bother with dark team building now
camu is gonna have to solo ppc dark half


btw @tribal iron down the line you will get a 5* wep selector that has a bow
you can put that on veritas
im building the same team now

so we can do it together
you will have that in not time
no time
trust me
just farm the event diligently
u hit lv 40 alrdy
did you finish ch5?
im still at chapter 4 
push on
finish 5-7
then u will dump all your stuff into the event
and get your lightning team fully kitted
is matrix the time stop here

i mean its the mode that you enter when you dodge perfect right?
so in essence matrix is timestop yes
kk 
well nice 
hanna
you can put that on bambi
thats her main set
cuz shes a 3ping spammer
but worry about that later
main goal for you rn is:
finish 5-7
get your lightning team geared
then get your AAA dark team (consisting of astral watanabe, vera rozen, and 21)
then u can go ice with bambi, ayla, hypnos
but dark team is stronger than that unless you sacc chrome glory for it
also as it turns out @flat jolt in ice team plume is basically a quickswap character, you swap her in for quick pings and ult and your main onfielder is glory, thats why u need glory wep more than plume
?
what do you want with that?
wait you have luna RIGHT

so i dont get solar ring?? 
you get ozma from the last selector
thats a couple days
alr i totally forgot about luna
so
change of plans
u dont need AAA dark team xd
so get to 5-7
then farm event full force
get dark team kitted
i'll help you with it if you dont wanna do your own reserach
but everything is in the pinned comp list
the memory set for vera is the same that lux will use for lightning and we have presets so u can easily swap with 1 click between characters
hoyo could never
how do u preset
when u are on a memory page
top right has memory set
then u can ave
anyway
pay attention to the memory placements
bottom row ones always boost atk and def, top row boosts hp and crit
so focus on the bottom row
this also means that you have to fit your memories the same way between characters that use the same thing
so example:
this is the general element support set
used both by rozen and lux
guin is the general "buff dmg on heal" 2pc
and davinci (=dv in the future) is needed in every team
it forces the other units qte too for a quick burst
so you will level the bottom dv pieces
and you put them in this order
we get 2pc guin for free from some mission but it's 1 and 4 i think and you want 3
so you will still have to get guin 3 from event sthop
since all dv users will have dv laid out in the 2 4 5 6 position with the 2pc flex on 1 3
it's improtant to keep this in mind
cuz these boxes dont always give us the correct pieces
the 4pc dv we get from guide has 2 3 5 6 i think
1 piece is wrong i forgot whcih
so you'll have to buy that from event too
ANYWAY
keep grinding to 5-7 D:
happy to help
i basically speedran pgr gearing 101
she just hit 3k 
researched a ton
pog
vera neglected atm 
vera should be ur starter btw
and luna leader
not the same thing
vera should be on blue
and 21 on yellow
when u get her
damn im running out of cogs
event is really the only thing to farm
yep
always
thats 1 thing i remember
unless downtime
whats on ur laurel even?
why is she so high
i hope u didnt level some useless memories 😄
monkaS
just show me whats shes on
im curious
god if you picked the 5* ring over the bow
whe
im gonna wheeze
is liv:luminance good?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
xd
oh well
now we know why ur out of cogs
you max invested into essentially 4* artifacts
😄
that you gonna swap in a couple days
cool that goes well with bianca
its okay ariel, its investment, i can clear content faster, 
me having the tank and dps for phys but not her 
you can get her later
if you want
february we get free selector
until then u can cope with eclipse ig

feelsbad tho
cuz lumi will be powercrept in uh
april
dw i lived on copium for so long till we got sirin as playable
these + bianca stigmata are what ive have 
thats allot of S ranks





